making-mods-general

[hard fern]

i

[whole raptor]

No clue, but it seems happy

[hard fern]

ok i thought that was a dragonfruit at first ngl

for the record

[shy harbor]

Is there a way for you to send me that file

I genuinely don't know how I messed mine up, even my backup is like that

[whole raptor]

If it's the game files, you can try to unpack again

[uncut viper]

sending whole game files in here is generally frowned upon as it would be redistributing the games content

[hot gale]

What about something like Spriters-Resource

[hard fern]

ehhh

same deal

[hot gale]

word

[shy harbor]

So I have to hope someone who's done cursors has the original because by backup I mean my backed-up game folder

[hot gale]

The game is less than a gig, just rename the whole folder and reinstall it

re-extract

viola

[whole raptor]

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[uncut viper]

spriters resource doesnt exactly have distribution rights either

its just largely ignored

but "just bc someone else does it doesnt mean this server allows it" and all that

[shy harbor]

Do I just rename the folder and delete/reinstall through Steam? I am very scared about losing everything lol

[iron ridge]

!reset

[ocean sail]

Please reset your game files. This will fix any broken game files, but won't affect your save files or mods.

If you use XNB mods, see using XNB mods for more info about why they're deprecated, and a list of Content Patcher alternatives.

To use this command, type !reset.

[iron ridge]

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[shy harbor]

I know how to unpack files 😅 /lh

[brittle ledge]

Pretty sure spriters resource is also out of date

[hard fern]

i was going to mention that too

i wasnt sure if there was anyone making sure all the assets on there for stardew were up to date

[hot gale]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/36855

Alpha Test posted to Nexus

Dward

[oblique meadow]

Do you still find the Dward scrolls so you can speak Dwardish?

[hot gale]

🤣

[hard fern]

dward....

[hot gale]

Any chance I can get a shoutout for my alpha test in mod showcase? 😁

[hard fern]

you're a modder

u can showcase it urself

[hot gale]

LOL, oh..

[hard fern]

lol

[oblique meadow]

You can. But I did it for you anyway

[hot gale]

Appreciate it haha

[fading walrus]

(for next time, just right click the message you want to publish > Apps > Publish)

[hot gale]

Oh sweet, tysm

[oblique meadow]

Or if on mobile long hold the message

[fading walrus]

ye

[shy harbor]

I managed to fix my cursors, thank you all!

[oblique meadow]

I have no idea what you’re talking about because I wasn’t here, but you are welcome!

[stiff parrot]

Anyone aware of a mod that allows the Geode Crusher to also crush golden coconuts other and non-geodes?

[urban patrol]

you might have more luck asking the people in #modded-stardew

[hot gale]

Few thousand lines of C# for what I have already in Mayor's Town haha so much code and doesnt feel like too much of a real mod yet

but at the same time, feels pretty big in terms of what it is accomplishing

[gaunt orbit]

Thousand??

What requires so much code?

Very cool idea though, looking forward to trying it

[hot gale]

I have built out a lot of systems I plan to use in the future, working my way through the natural progression of the mod's gameplay in a way so I can accurately bug test/fix on the fly

[hard fern]

omg

[hot gale]

lmao

A lot has gone into making these villagers so far

Funny enough my biggest hiccup so far was attempting to use FarmerRender

That convinced me to switch to dwarfs rofl

Might have an option eventually to 'theme' your town and its' villagers.

Dwarfs - Cave 'Town'
Ghosts - 'Spooky' Town
Junimo = Forest Town
Dust Sprite - old, dingy Town

I originally wanted fully randomized human sprites to populate the towns, but that turned out to be way too much of a headache ;p

Dwarfs are a cuter stylistic choice anyway

[urban patrol]

ghost town 👀

[hot gale]

My girlfriend's idea, which I absolutely loved

The villagers path randomly right now, I eventually plan on trying to add smart pathing, where they will actually walk to and from work and home, go to the clinic when they need, go grab food when hungry etc

For now, just schedule-less pathing so they dont seem to just wander around the same spots aimlessly

[urban patrol]

i salute you 🫡

seems like a lot of work lol

[hot gale]

it's been real fun so far :D

It's at a point where people could actually mess around with it

I wouldnt recommend using it in any meaningful playthrough atm

[urban patrol]

fair lol

[hot gale]

https://ptb.discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1407827832188440617

[urban patrol]

if you DO end up making a ghost town, and in a state that doesn't screw actual gameplay, i could (try to) add compatibility with my mod that's about ghosts and recommend it to players!

[hot gale]

oooh that sounds awesome

[urban patrol]

maybe someday i'll make a nexus collection of ghost-themed/supernatural stuff

[hot gale]

My girlfriend would love that lmao

Need to work on job assignments so I can get clinics/doctors going so these poor guys actually recover health lol, they all started starving while I was developing other stuff and sleeping every night 🤣

[hard fern]

why is he dead and miserable

[hot gale]

I'd be miserable too prolly

🤔 Should I have their health slowly regenerate when full, or should I have them have to go see a doctor..

[hard fern]

a lot of games let you regen health by consuming stuff (stuff)

uhh some just recover it over time when idle though

[urban patrol]

maybe they need a doctor if it's below a certain threshhold (mimicking refeeding syndrome irl lol) but it regens naturally otherwise

[hot gale]

I already tabbed over and started working on something like that haha

[gaunt orbit]

I need connected fish tanks so bad when will calcifer come home from the war

[brittle pasture]

@ chu

[lucid iron]

Well I mean i have stopped pretending that mmap is a map framework

[urban patrol]

am i correctly reading this log--no save has been loaded before they sent the log? https://smapi.io/log/7e36c76a019f460cb73939b8a1e99afd

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26100.0, with 113 C# mods and 228 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[urban patrol]

the issue they reported is NPCs getting stuck in between the beach and my custom map, which was an issue with my NPC warps that was supposed to have been fixed with my latest update 1.2.3

they also mentioned willy getting stuck, which is odd because i don't touch his schedule, and i don't know where he would be going

[uncut viper]

yes there is no save loaded here

[urban patrol]

thanks, i'll let them know and ask for a different log

[gaunt orbit]

How hard do you think it would be to break up 10m updates across multiple ticks to reduce lag spikes

[uncut viper]

10m as in million?

probably not hard

[sonic sun]

anyone here willing to look at my CP mod and see why the asset isnt loading in this is my first mod and im going crazy

[hard fern]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[hard fern]

for your content.json

[sonic sun]

smapi validator says its fine

sad face

[hard fern]

any errors in your log?

[uncut viper]

send the json anyway

[sonic sun]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/4df7571bf8584774b1b1d1a2e4cea4cf this is one

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/8b766753c08746b5a6be0c83538f0178 i also tried this my friend suggested

it was flagging the 2nd though

[sonic sun]

yes but theyre from my other vortex profile and the mods i dont have loading in. i made a clean profile with only debug mode smapi and cp

i could send the entire smapi log, but its all my errors, ill see if my bf will load it on his he is vanilla

could it be because i have farmhouse.png instead of Farmhouse.png?

[hot gale]

Yeah, they are all case sensitive iirc

[hard fern]

well you need to match your fromfile to the actual asset you have, but it doesn't necessarily have to match what you're editing 🤔

[sonic sun]

im sorry fr fr for my ignorance

[hot gale]

No need to apologize lol have to learn some time

[uncut viper]

if your file is called farmhouse.png then it shouldnt be capitalized

[sonic sun]

it autocapitalizes so ill try capitalizing it in my json

[uncut viper]

however there is no such thing as Buildings/Farmhouse

no, dont try capitalizing it if thats not what your filename is

[hard fern]

🤔 it's just called "houses" it seems

[sonic sun]

im going off what was suggested yall clearly are more qualified

i need to hire yall to tutor me

[uncut viper]

your target must match something found in your unpacked content folder minus the file extension (assuming its a vanilla asset ofc)

so you do want to target Buildings/houses

and assuming your own farmhouse.png that you created looks like what houses.png does

[hard fern]

😔 why is the asset just called houses but the map called Farmhouse

[lucid iron]

the inside is called FarmHouse :)

[sonic sun]

its literally just houses png

😭

[uncut viper]

dont write the png

[sonic sun]

just houses?

[hard fern]

apologies, FarmHouse with a capital H...

[uncut viper]

Buildings/houses

that is your Target

[hard fern]

(my point still stands)

[sonic sun]

youre literally awesome thank yall

is there a better tutorial on how to actually know what im lookinggat when i unpack

or is that just something i pick up

[uncut viper]

when editing vanilla content the target is just always going to be the path + name of it inside your Content folder, minus the content part and the file extension

so e.g. that houses.png is in Content (unpacked)/Buildings/houses.png hence the target being Buildings/houses

as for knowing what to edit, thats something you just kinda pick up or ask in here if someone knows like "hey what asset holds the Bus picture in the bus stop?"

you can also often see what the asset name for a texture is in its Data

like Data/Objects for example, the 1.6 objects have a Texture field set to like LooseSprites/Objects_1.6 or w/e

[sonic sun]

thsnk you so much genuinely

[uncut viper]

if you're ever unsure of somethin dont be afraid to chime in here and ask, people here love to help

[sonic sun]

[Content Patcher] Can't apply image patch "(CP) Ivy Lane > EditImage Buildings/houses" to Buildings/houses: the FromFile file 'assets\Farmhouse.png' doesn't exist. wtf lollll what

[hard fern]

did you change what your asset is called

[uncut viper]

well what is the name of your .png file

[sonic sun]

Farmhouse.png

[uncut viper]

insiode your assets folder inside your mods folder

are you 100% sure its a png? do you have file extensions turned on?

if not it might be a Farmhouse.png.png

[sonic sun]

how do i turn file extensions on?

[uncut viper]

!fileextensions

[ocean sail]

Hidden File Extensions

Windows and Mac hide most file extensions by default. If you are creating or updating mods, it's helpful to show file extensions so that you can be sure all mod files are named correctly.

To show file extensions on your computer:

On Windows 10, open File Explorer, click on the View tab, then check the File Name Extensions box.

On Windows 11, open File Explorer and click on View > Show > File Name Extensions.

On Mac, open Finder, and in the menu bar, click on Finder > Settings (or Preferences) > Advanced, then check the Show all filename extensions box.

To use this command, type !fileextensions.

[sonic sun]

ty!!

okay thank you it work i just definately need to redesign my house but the actual mod works.

[hot gale]

Yay!

[sonic sun]

i made the background transparent on PS its showing up white, now with replacing the vanilla farmhouse, the actual farmhouse i made ( i will draw a new one thats some bs little thing i doodled) is "smaller" than that little border, should i go ahead and make it bigger than 144 x 122 to remedy this, and if i did, would i have to also move the mailbox over AND what size should i do? i could take that over to the art channel if need be. apologies for the spam

its terrible but i never thought id get to this point lol

[hot gale]

Any progress is good progress!

Will be all that much faster next time :D

[uncut viper]

you must match the size of the original exactly

it migth be possible to create a custom texture and change the Data/Buildings data for Farmhouse to match, but i believe you'll run into hardcoded things iirc

[hard fern]

ive seen a case where someone made the texture Huge but the collision was the default farmhouse

[uncut viper]

probably a good idea to download another recently-posted farmhouse mod to see how they did it

[lucid iron]

you can resize it how you want

however in the case where house small i recommend leaving the original dimensions alone

[versed wyvern]

Just asking once more, was there a patch condition that could check if an NPC exists? For my mods that will all attempt to add the same shop and NPC I think I'd like to skip reloading everything if they've already been added by an earlier mod in the load order, just for optimization

[sonic sun]

should i look at thei assets?

[uncut viper]

you might be able to try {{HasValue}} in combination with {{Hearts:NPCName}}? uncertain on this. if this doesnt work then there is no method of determining this afaik

[lucid iron]

just make mudcore

[uncut viper]

Hearts/Relationship may also just log a warning in the console if the NPC doesnt exist which would be undesirable

[uncut viper]

yes

[lucid iron]

i feel like you can get away with hasmod though

[uncut viper]

Mud iirc wants to add the NPC in every mod

there is no one mod to check for

[lucid iron]

like say if you have i dunno, MudMod vol1 MudMod vol2 MudMod vol3

[ornate locust]

you can multiple hasmod, right?

[uncut viper]

you can, but what if Mud makes another mod in the future?

[lucid iron]

you can decide on a order like vol2 doesn't try edit if vol1 is there

vol3 doesn't try edit if vol1 or vol2 is there

and so on

just chronological release order's fine probably?

[uncut viper]

and then if you add a Vol4, you then have to update all of 1, 2, and 3 on nexus as well to add vol4

and then if you add vol5, you have 4 more mods to update, and so on

[lucid iron]

no u leave them alone

vol1 in this setup unconditionally do the edit

[versed wyvern]

Hmm... wait, was there a way to use a GSQ as a Content Patcher condition?

[uncut viper]

not without a dependency

alternatively not without a mail flag middleman

[lucid iron]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/9fdfcedf08524837a06274c35f0b1a9b

it's sorta this concept

where i attempt to use spacecore if it's there, calcifer if spacecore not there, mmap if calcifer and spacecore both not there

ofc the patch on MudMod vol11 will get very silly

i hope you do just make MudCore at that point

[ornate locust]

that does sound like a case for a Core

[versed wyvern]

What would that dependency be? I do have a handful being used already

[uncut viper]

Esca's Modding Plugins

[versed wyvern]

But I think there's a GSQ I can use

[uncut viper]

its not the most efficient of tokens, fair warning

(not bc of anything Esca's done wrong, ftr)

[versed wyvern]

Just a bit hard to use?

[uncut viper]

no like, computationally inefficient

[versed wyvern]

Ah, ok

[uncut viper]

cant cache well

bc GSQs can change at any time

[lucid iron]

in some way it is got none of cp token advantages

[versed wyvern]

So probably not the kind of thing I'd want to have multiple mods checking

[uncut viper]

also there isnt otherwise a GSQ to check if an NPC exists

[lucid iron]

the hasmod token is very efficient cus it's invariant

[uncut viper]

gonna suck if someone ever adds a mod for loading mods at runtime

[lucid iron]

sounds like a crime for someone other than me

[uncut viper]

yeah thats one of those things where if it ever exists im not going to worry about it

like quick save

all mods being present at runtime and saving/loading happening at reliable times are two things i consider immutable facts when it comes to compat

personally speaking that is

[sonic sun]

could i edit the map?

[uncut viper]

which map

[sonic sun]

the farm map

[uncut viper]

dont see why not

plenty of people do

[lucid iron]

whats the goal here

[uncut viper]

the farm map is separate from the farmhouse, though

the map does not determine anything about the farmhouse itself except for its default position

[sonic sun]

im trying to remove the fence and steps from the farmhouse to put my farmhouse down and it look seamless

i looked at the assets on other mods and still confused

[versed wyvern]

Anyway I guess there also isn't anything else that these mods could add that other mods could check for existence, huh

[uncut viper]

they can add mail flags

[lucid iron]

these things?

[sonic sun]

YES

[lucid iron]

they are just part of the farmhouse texture

[versed wyvern]

Can they be set via patch and checked before following mods load?

[lucid iron]

you can just not have them, as long as you use Replace mode in EditImage

[sonic sun]

how would i go about doing that?

[twilit quest]

My level 1 farmhouse is very different from the vanilla level 1 farmhouse. I've got it working pretty well, except when marrying, my spouse will often appear outside the farmhouse in the upper corner of the map (where the original level 1 farmhouse is). Is there a way I could change this, or is it hardcoded and necessitating C# to change?

[lucid iron]

well you already editimaged right

[sonic sun]

yes

[lucid iron]

the simplest way is to just change your source image so that it's same size as the vanilla houses.png

[sonic sun]

i did 144x 122

[lucid iron]

make parts you don't want transparent

[uncut viper]

im too uncertain about the timing re: vanilla DayStarted and Content Patcher edits on SMAPI DayStarted to be able to answer this

[lucid iron]

272x432

this is the png size you want

[twilit quest]

Make the size the same as the vanilla image, just erase the parts you don't want

[sonic sun]

YOURE AMAZING

[lucid iron]

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[lucid iron]

unpack your game if you haven't and make a copy of houses

then you can edit over it so the positioning is all correct and such

(technically farmhouse only uses 160 wide not 272 but eh im just trying to keep it simple)

[uncut viper]

but @ Mud at the very least one LocationChanged would be enough if DayStarted was not useable update rate there, to un-patch if they detect the mail flag

[versed wyvern]

Thanks anyway, I guess it sounds like this just is a lot more trouble than it's worth just to reduce load impact by a smidgen

[uncut viper]

though, im not saying this wouyld be better than the HasMod

[lucid iron]

yea im not sure if this is worth doin if not with a token like hasmod

or yknow just make a central shared mod

[versed wyvern]

I just get the feeling that install rate of the shop as a standalone mod would likely drop a lot because users hate reading descriptions

[lucid iron]

but its a dependency

[uncut viper]

make it required

[lucid iron]

it's up to you really, i also think you could just have all the individual "mods" in 1 content patcher pack "mod" and make gmcm toggles

[versed wyvern]

Several of my plans are rather unrelated to the rest so I wanted just the shop to be where unlocks and item replacement come together

But yeah I guess I could just force the issue and make it required to load

[uncut viper]

"several unrelated plans" is like THE main use of core mods /lh

[lucid iron]

just gotta come up with a cool name

[uncut viper]

The Mud Bath

[hollow dust]

ohh, got it noww, thank you thank you:33

xDD thanks for this too:3, much appreciated 🙂‍↕️

[brave fable]

imo it looks really great! i've had a lot of comments asking for something like this in LOC, but i still think for a bunch of reasons (appropriate credit, you get full dp, simpler maintenance, quicker fixes and improvements, allows me to ignore my mod page a little longer) it's still best as a separate mod addon rather than packed into LOC

as for the LOC sprites, you can load the spritesheet with this path here:
https://github.com/b-b-blueberry/CooksAssistant/blob/master/LoveOfCooking [CP]/content.json#L23
which would probably read as var sprites = helper.GameContent.Load<Texture2D>("Mods/blueberry.LoveOfCooking.Assets/Sprites")
from there, you can draw pretty much anything you like. if the plate sprites aren't clean enough in the spritesheet i could look at editing them to separate the frame, which would break some recolours a little now, but also means you'd get better recolour support for your UI in future without people needing to patch the same sprites in both mods, assuming you're copying the sprites out and repacking them

[versed wyvern]

Yo wait that cooking game looks so cool

I've always felt cooking needed more interaction

[brave fable]

absolutely, it's also pretty spot on with what i'd imagined people wanted from the mod page requests

[humble timber]

man, i really need to decide on a name for my expansion,,,, names r hard though

[brave fable]

geoff is a fashinable & sexy name for an expansion

[humble timber]

Lmao

[calm nebula]

Pick two random English words

Then pick a quaint word for town

Rose Garden Hamlet

[uncut viper]

Jumble Quaternion Municipality

[calm nebula]

Blue Bonnet Unincorporated Area

[uncut viper]

if its unincorporated is it still a town

[humble timber]

😭 lmao

I was toying with the idea of calling it (something) bluffs, but meh. Think before I try to name the expansion as a whole I need to like. actually write more dialogue and get a better feel of the vibes of the town and such

[brave fable]

there's a town in the city here called Rookwood which i've always thought was an absolutely killer placename

[humble timber]

yooo that is pretty sick lmao

[calm nebula]

Pick a random spot in England and add "new"

[hard fern]

🤔 i chose greenwick for a town name but im like convinced that's a real place somewhere

[brave fable]

you're probably thinking greenwich if it's living in the back of your head

[calm nebula]

Could always Google it

I hear Google mostly has real places

[patent lance]

New quote added by katrie. as #6580 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1407895363544940616)

[humble timber]

I was almost considering just yoinking the Blackthorn name (pkmn city name) bc it kinda bangs ngl (especially if i go alliterative and call it blackthorn bluffs) but eeehhhh idk. need to sit on it more. don't want to end up sticking with something

[brave fable]

i mean there's another town around here called Blackbutt...

[humble timber]

LMAO??

[brave fable]

as mayor of blackbutt i bequeath upon ye a new expansion name

[sonic sun]

new question.... can i move the mailbox?

[brave fable]

absolutely search for mailbox here

[humble timber]

blueberry mayor of blackbutt

[whole raptor]

I mean.. there was a town called Fucking... until they changed it because people kept stealing the sign So anything is possible

[humble timber]

LMAOOOOO

[brave fable]

england is not a serious place 😌

[sonic sun]

im gunna cry bro

[whole raptor]

That one was in Austria, but UK definitely has a lot of weird town names

[brave fable]

oh i was so sure

[humble timber]

i think theres a sinkhole

[sonic sun]

why is it underground nooo

[brave fable]

your sprite is far larger than the actual farmhouse sprite size, so it's only rendering the topleft corner up to the usual size

[gentle rose]

Sandwich, Ham and Cheddar are all real

[brave fable]

i mean............... the foods are named after the places

[whole raptor]

I'll never forget the most beautiful promotional video of Fucking town... (well.. not exactly promotional, but you get what I mean )

[sonic sun]

i was told 272 x 432 to be over the fence

[brave fable]

except maybe ham, which is the root of hamlet, as in a small ham

[sonic sun]

idk what im doing

mini ham i suppose

[obtuse wigeon]

I used to live in a town where the middle of the sign would always be scratched off leaving it to translate to "Hell area" and honestly it was,

[gentle rose]

over what fence do you mean?

[sonic sun]

do you think i could resize it with the vanilla assets like layered over in PS?

[brave fable]

@gentle rose

[sonic sun]

erm the borders? the full farmhouse

yes

[gentle rose]

ah

[brave fable]

(i don't have the assets in front of me currently so i can't verify the dimensions)

your source image does look absolutely huge though

[obtuse wigeon]

144 by 144

[brave fable]

i'm assuming it's an even larger image you've downscaled some?

[sonic sun]

yeah

i wonder if i can just reformat it but doubtful

[lucid iron]

did you draw the source img

[humble timber]

gonna be honest as is you're gonna lose at least half the detail if you wanna keep downscaling it further

[sonic sun]

no its somethig random

[lucid iron]

or is it like some sprite pack thing

[humble timber]

ah.

[lucid iron]

i feel like its just not gonna look good tbh, should find something of right size

[sonic sun]

its not for publishing dw

im just learning

[brave fable]

your options are to either downscale it further, or tinker with the farmhouse building data to give it the appropriate dimensions, collision map, draw layer positions, and so forth

the former is better if you don't mind losing image quality, the latter is better if you don't mind having a huge house

or you can do neither and live in the attic of a long-buried farmhouse from aeons past

[sonic sun]

downscale it is, ill probably just start simple and add if i can detail wise but this is the only thing ive ever done other than ts3 cc like 7 years ago lol. im like very new and barely undertsnf content packs

[humble timber]

any particular reason you chose the house to replace

just curious

[sonic sun]

i wanted to flex on my bf

[humble timber]

LOL? 😭

[sonic sun]

i did some crops last month

and he wasnt impressed much

im tryna make the house he said he wiahed was on nexus

[obtuse wigeon]

honestly to impress someone is a pretty good motivator

[sonic sun]

i was gunna make him as an npc but thats....

hard

[sonic sun]

the void

[brave fable]

if it's any easier, you can simply target an existing NPC (give him george) and replace him bit-by-bit, since you know that george fundamentally works

swap out the portraits, replace a little dialogue, saves a lot on having to bootstrap the whole character and everything they require

[sonic sun]

the detail is fine for what i need it for this is 144 x 144, im gunna count the tiles to see how much i can expand

sorry for the spam

1x6

[brave fable]

with the Data Layers mod installed, you can show a tile grid in real-time while playing to help keep count

[hot gale]

Food unitsss

[sonic sun]

true true im on a test profile idk why i didnt think of that

i wonder if im usuing any of yalls mods

[hot gale]

I only have a few myself

[obtuse wigeon]

I always find it fun when I see who made a mod and realise "omg I've spoken to them!"

[hot gale]

Right lol

Pretty much all the heavy hitters frequent this channel

[vernal crest]

Now that I'm working with Bog people are going to actually use mods I've worked on they probably won't know it though lol

[obtuse wigeon]

I saw them announce it on their butterflies to moths mod and I immediatly was like "I know them!!!"

that validation I'd get knowing someone I've spoken to here is using one of my mods would be insane

[sonic sun]

i literally thought i was talking to a celebrity when lemurkat responded to me on reddit lmfao

[vernal crest]

I was constantly squeeing when I first joined this community lol

[sonic sun]

me rn

[shy harbor]

Watching creators of mods I know pop in here every once in a while is surreal

[brave fable]

i'm the proud author of a mod that replaces seed packet sprites with the crop seed sprites. it's kind of a big deal

maybe a hundred downloads in 5 years. honest work

[sonic sun]

honestly thats useful does it work with 2.6

[brave fable]

i have no idea 😌

[sonic sun]

1.6

LOL

[vernal crest]

I'm now jaded so I don't think "blueberry, maker of LOC" I think "bluebs, reason I use the 😌 emoji" xD

[lucid iron]

blueberry, annihilator of 6 particular tiles from greenhouse

[obtuse wigeon]

Your raised garden beds inspired the modular furniture mod I'm making, when ever I see your name that's what I think of now

[shy harbor]

I had no idea you were that blueberry and now I am ashamed

[lucid iron]

i wanna think ppl dont recognize me tbh it is kind of scary

[obtuse wigeon]

(oh and calico bus)

[inland rain]

what are ShadowGuy and ShadowGirl?

[vernal crest]

I recognise you chu!

sneeb lover

[lucid iron]

2 unused monsters i think

[shy harbor]

I'm so bad at remembering who made what

[lucid iron]

shadow girl is krobus with a bow

[brave fable]

pretty sure ShadowGuy is the default shadow brute monster, and ShadowGirl is unused

[inland rain]

no, ShadowBrute is the brute

[brave fable]

again wish i had the assets in front of me

blah

[inland rain]

it looks like they spawn from obelisks 😮

weiird

[brave fable]

oh right i forgot about calico bus. my beloved

[vernal crest]

Where is ShadowGuy? I do not see its image file in Monsters

[brave fable]

i wouldn't sweat it, half the fun is finding out who's behind the cool mods as it happens though aedenthorn is probably 60% of them by now

[obtuse wigeon]

I'm both very intregued yet terrified on the 8 hour desert bus ride so I haven't downloaded it but it's always on my mind (mostly because of the description which is very funny to me)

[inland rain]

it's weird, the code even references Shadow Guy texture file

[uncut viper]

blueberry is the only reason i use both 😌 and

[inland rain]

            this.Sprite = new AnimatedSprite("Characters\\Monsters\\Shadow " + ((base.Position.X % 4f == 0f) ? "Girl" : "Guy"));

[brave fable]

if it helps at all you can just pop open the assets/game/data file and change the distance from 560000 metres or whatever to a more sensible and shameful number

or ratchet up the top speed from 70 to 700

the cursed desert bus arcade cabinet pretty much does that but also makes the brakes and drift unhinged

[obtuse wigeon]

I can change the distance myself? gunna bump up the distance now and have a 16 hour journey

[sonic sun]

YOU MADE THE BUS????

[brave fable]

pretty sure you're the only reason i've ever used 🤝 and now it's a knee-jerk emoji

[vernal crest]

What a tangled web we weave

[inland rain]

I'm going to redirect Shadow Guy to Shadow Brute ig

what's an obelisk and does it really spawn monsters?

or is this unused code

[obtuse wigeon]

Isn't there a red obelisk item that's unused?

I think it's unused?

[inland rain]

it's (BC)29

ooo neat

there's code for it; someone should spawn one and see

[obtuse wigeon]

I actually love the look of it

[inland rain]

but it will probably break if it spawns a shadow guy

[obtuse wigeon]

I'll give it a go, I've got my testing save open so why not

[inland rain]

if not, we makes it work

I'm making shadow tribes spawn in the open world

groups of shadow ppl

[obtuse wigeon]

it's animated only when close to it, but it doesn't seem to actually be doing anything

OH THE OBELISK ACTUALLY WORKS!?

it spawned a slime though

[inland rain]

\o/

it can spawn slimes, shadow guys and shadow girls

[obtuse wigeon]

Are then enemies spawns weighted infavour of the shadow guys and girls? cause it's only spawned a single slime so far

[inland rain]

                                    if (Game1.random.NextDouble() < 0.1)
                                    {
                                        location.characters.Add(new GreenSlime(v2 * new Vector2(64f, 64f)));
                                    }
                                    else if (Game1.random.NextBool())
                                    {
                                        location.characters.Add(new ShadowGuy(v2 * new Vector2(64f, 64f)));
                                    }
                                    else
                                    {
                                        location.characters.Add(new ShadowGirl(v2 * new Vector2(64f, 64f)));
                                    }

it seems it's weighted in favour of shadow ppl

but yeah only when you're next to it

oh, and only if there are less than 4 characters in the map

[obtuse wigeon]

The range may need to be boosted to be useful bc it is literally only when youre right next to it

[inland rain]

yeah

not diagonal either

[obtuse wigeon]

There goes my idea for a semi automatic enemy farm

[brave fable]

it does look like it's meant to be a cursed mirror, maybe the idea is you have to look into it to spawn enemies

[inland rain]

oo like a minecraft farm

[obtuse wigeon]

just need pistons for suffication or lava now

[inland rain]

imagine redstone in stardew

[obtuse wigeon]

does the code say it only works outside or is there no check for the specific location?

8 bit computer in stardew when

[inland rain]

doesn't seem like it checks

it's a very small chance per tick, idk what the chance per second is

[obtuse wigeon]

I've still only seen 1 slime and I have 4 obelisks now, so it's increadibly small

[inland rain]

not even per tick, it's for 1/3 of ticks i think

it would be easy to rewrite the code though

[obtuse wigeon]

so it effectivly checks 20 times a second?

[inland rain]

I guess? and the chance is 1/10000

[obtuse wigeon]

roughly 8 mins and 20 secs real time, that's so slow

[inland rain]

need to file a complaint smh

[obtuse wigeon]

oop one more slime, intrestingly they spawn with 1 health too

[inland rain]

that's weird you get only slimes :/

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh wait I have 1 hit kill enabled in cjb cheats, that may be why they spawn with 1 health

ye it is, quite an intresting thing that shadow guys and girls aren't an actual thing

[inland rain]

I can make a mod rq that makes it more prolific

[brave fable]

if you pause for debugging, maybe check the location characters list? they could be created but somehow hidden.

[inland rain]

see what's happening

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh! I got an error!

[inland rain]

\o/

can't find shadow guy i bet

[obtuse wigeon]

It tried spawning a shadow girl!

https://smapi.io/log/1222a1a471a74e7b975df7b229bba2e2

[ocean sail]

Oops, couldn't parse that file. Make sure you share a valid SMAPI log.

[inland rain]

oh! why didn't that work

[dry pewter]

Would it be a particularly bad idea to add a single character in as a first mod?
My friend wants a character in the game, and I dunno how difficult that would be to do.

[inland rain]

shadow girl seems like it should work

[round dock]

!npc

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Aviroen has put together a template that will allow you to easily create a romanceable NPC.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

• Fireredlily has a WIP NPC Builder Please do report any errors you get with it into the NPC thread!

To use this command, type !npc.

[inland rain]

oh no monster info

rip

[round dock]

[obtuse wigeon]

OH GOOD GOD WHAT IS HAPPENING

[uncut viper]

nothing about making an NPC (art aside) is technically difficult. however, its a long, tedious process that requires a lot of things to be working

so if you have a lot of motivation and are willing to learn, its completely doable

its just also very very easy to get discouraged and burnt out

[ornate locust]

know that the process WILL be longer than you expect

[brave fable]

again though, an alternative is gradually changing the sprites and data of an existing character to reduce on the amount of setup you need to get visible results

[ornate locust]

dead-eyed stare in "been working on a NPC for a year

[dry pewter]

Gotcha, is there a good spot to start learning this process?
TBH me and a friend wanna do it together, so. That should make the motivation part easier,
Still dunno where I should start with modding one in,
Any tutorials or guides or anything for the basics?

[brave fable]

if you ever feel the need to make them a separate character, you can just change the target ID of your character in your changes

[obtuse wigeon]

(Wrong file format bare with)

[uncut viper]

the governor command that Claire got for you

[round dock]

lol i was just gonna say some NPCs take more than a year to develop

[ornate locust]

(hey, I got all the art done and I've got several events, all the festivals and schedules and stuff, map patches... I just for four events to go, then some later game stuff)

[obtuse wigeon]

Heres the correct file format

[dry pewter]

Ope, thank you!

[ornate locust]

makin progress!

[round dock]

!cp while we’re at it

[ocean sail]

Content Patcher (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/1915) is a mod which loads content packs to change the game's images and data without replacing XNB files. If you want to make mods using Content Patcher, start at https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Content_Patcher.

To use this command, type !cp.

[round dock]

!startmodding ?

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[round dock]

gotcha

[inland rain]

I can't read that, but I assume it's bc of the missing texture

[versed wyvern]

Just making an NPC's house is keeping me from trying to make mine, tilesheets are hard to make/find

[inland rain]

for shadow guy

[ornate locust]

You mean for like the building itself or the inside?

[dry pewter]

Ty for those also!

[round dock]

!anyonecancook good luck!

[ocean sail]

To use this command, type !anyonecancook.

[obtuse wigeon]

I thinks it's actually due to A lot of missing things: https://smapi.io/log/fa6bb451b0cb4f129238810bf3309c86

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26100.0, with 27 C# mods and 3 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[versed wyvern]

Both!

[ornate locust]

Well if you ever wanna turn couches and some furniture ways it doesn't turn in vanilla HAVE I GOT THE MOD FOR YOU

[versed wyvern]

I need to make a spooky mansion but I haven't found good assets for that

[devout otter]

This really depends on the scope too. If you character is unmoving like the Dwarf and Krobus, it would be relatively simple.

[ornate locust]

one day someone else is gonna use my tilesheet...

[dry pewter]

Nah, it would probably be moving, And would have dialogue.
So I imagine that will take some time,

[ornate locust]

The indoors, you can at least find stuff that works. Outdoors, you generally need to make a building, it's a bit more bespoke

[round dock]

And events, I reckon

[devout otter]

I was tempted to make Jinu social NPC, but then I thought about events and that cut that thought short.

[round dock]

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh wow a shadow guy also breaks the camera, it no longer follows the play until a menu is opened or the enemy is killed

[ornate locust]

oop

[hot gale]

spoopy

[ornate locust]

I think all the spoopy stuff I know about is for player houses and such, not tilesheets for general use, alas

Art's kinda hard, you have to be able to do it, find, it, or buy it

makes a great road block when you're like "I think I want to portray this information in flashback, OH NO NOW I NEED TWO MORE PEOPLE"

[hot gale]

Yeahh my only two NPCs I have in my honey mead mod that I made dont walk around at all lmao they are strictly stationary shopkeepers

Once I saw how involved making truly custom NPCs was I was like welp not doing that 😅

[ornate locust]

the difficulty HAS kept me from making my counter lady as a stationary shopkeep instead of a NPC

not quite difficulty, the amount of... stuff.

[hot gale]

yeah, its.. a lot

[ornate locust]

A NPC schedule is easy when she's actually part of the map tileset

[hot gale]

I wanted to tear my heair out making json schedules for like 5 NPCs I repurposed with permission

Now in mayors town I use C# to make my dwarfs wander randomly 🤣

[tiny zealot]

i went the other way and made my nearly useless set dressing shopkeeper into a full NPC, but he's way less complicated than most

[ornate locust]

Oh I was tempted because my shopkeep's portrait's really pretty

[tiny zealot]

if i ever finish driving myself crazy with extracurriculars i may yet release it!

[ornate locust]

like oh no, this turned out very well and I think she's cute, DO NOT MAKE HER A NPC

the urge is there

[humble timber]

lmao

[ornate locust]

She still leaked a bit. Thanks Central Station LOL

[humble timber]

me with side characters i'll want for some heart events: NO MORE NO MORE

[ornate locust]

I got her in Central Station, comments in events, and Downtown Zuzu's block party (she lives there) so she still feels a bit NPC-ish

but none of those has schedules

[inland rain]

oh yeah lol shadow guy is weird

shadow girl doesn't seem to work at all

[whole raptor]

Is there a way to list the tilesheets that were used in a map in Tiled?

[devout otter]

Central Station is a pretty good releaser of NPC urges.

[ornate locust]

Oh yeah I like it, and it's so easy to slot into

[obtuse wigeon]

Shadow guy has a bow, which is what I thought shadow girl had

[devout otter]

(You could always make her have 0 schedule like Dwarf. If you ever feel the urge to just write dialogues.)

[obtuse wigeon]

My only issues with Central Station is that I haven't come across many mods that actually use it which is a shame, I'd love to visit places through central station that have no other way

[ornate locust]

She's got a few little dialogs when you open her shop

(stop tempting me shakes fist!)

I gotta finish these dang heart events first at the very least

[whole raptor]

Technically all the mods that used Bus or Railroad locations can use CS

[ornate locust]

speaking of which, I should stop procrastinating after eating and put this event I scripted out into code...

[obtuse wigeon]

That's true, however I don't think I've come across a mod that only uses central station meaning it's a bit of a redundancy

[devout otter]

Stardew Aquarium only uses Central Station now, I'm pretty sure.

As well as that Cyberpunk Zuzu mod.

[hot gale]

Central Station is a dependancy for Mayor's Town

and Artisanal Honey Mead

(my mods) ;p

[ornate locust]

yeah there's a few. It's supposed to supercede it, IIRC

[obtuse wigeon]

I havent heard of star aquarium or cyberpunk zuzu, I may add them so that I have a use for central station!

[hot gale]

https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/1303/images/31786/31786-1743971467-171203541.png

Could visit my lovely little meadery :D

[devout otter]

The Cyberpunk Zuzu mod is kinda hard to search, so here it is: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/35297

[obtuse wigeon]

Artisinal honey mead is another one I'll add the the list too (and Mayors town when its released)

[whole raptor]

Central Station is quite new and expansions to take a while to make (or still find spaces to squeeze into the valley), probably that's partly why there's not much content yet

[obtuse wigeon]

That's true, I don't often play with many expansions entirly because they get crammed into anywhere they fit leading to an almost cramped and colostrophobic feeling, I do hope more mods will utilise CS

[hot gale]

Me too, I really enjoy it as a framework

[humble timber]

I'll definitely use it, though idk if I'll have it be the only way to get to my expansion's area

Was thinking bus would prob be okay too

[hot gale]

Honestly Central Station makes it so much easier adding stops etc its worth just using imo

[tiny zealot]

the expansion i'm not working on won't use it, but only because it would make no sense, not because i have anything against CS

[calm nebula]

Everyone's working on an expansion

[tiny zealot]

not true! i'm not working on one

[calm nebula]

Yours is gonna be excellent

[tiny zealot]

i may have an outrageous pile of idea fragments about it that all live in my head, and i may think about them frequently, but i'm not working on it /lh

[calm nebula]

Well, when the expansion mysterious is fully finished it'll be great

[ornate locust]

I would love to have used it, but I just HAD to make a municipal building and that only makes sense in town

[obtuse wigeon]

I'd love to make an expansion, well I'd love to make the code bit behind it, the art or creative writing I wouldn't, that's the only thing stopping me at this point

[hot gale]

yess, so many Food Units

[obtuse wigeon]

Enough stats to make a statistition melt, I love it

[obtuse wigeon]

I can't wait for Mayor's Town to be released ngl, I'm gunna have so much fun managing the town

[hot gale]

Im excited to play it too ngl

[obtuse wigeon]

How on earth do I get a paint mask to work with seasonal edits when a paint mask change requires a full game restart, this is the most puzzling thing I've ever done?

[uncut viper]

if i didnt want my NPC to be able to super quickly get to town i might use central station but i like the idea of her living south of town instead too much

[hot gale]

To each their own :D

[obtuse wigeon]

Even priority late doesn't make the paintmask work how I want, ughh

[hot gale]

Yayy full tummies make them heal up to 75% of their max health :D

Finally means I can move on to getting job assignments going

[obtuse wigeon]

Woooo! the colours also massively help too with determining what needs doing

[hot gale]

Thanks!

Dwarfs have a small chance to be born a 'Specialist' which will have a decent boost a single stat - that will be highlighted yellow when true to easily identify Specialsit Dwarfs

[twilit quest]

There's a farm map property that allows one to determine where one's spouse stands in the kitchen. Is there something similar to keep one's cat from appearing in the void?

[obtuse wigeon]

I thought the pets spawn at the water bowl outside or the bed inside? And don't go through the buildings layer (unless something goes quite wrong)

[hard fern]

🤔 ive caught my cat in the abyss

[twilit quest]

Which bed inside? I have two beds (double and single) but the cat is sleeping in the void. ;_;

Maybe it's because I have two beds

[obtuse wigeon]

Hmmm with 2 beds in not too sure, I'll have a quick look to see if I can see it in the code cause I can't find anything online

[twilit quest]

Thank you!

[obtuse wigeon]

If my understanding is correct, it just loops through all furniture in the farm house, and the first bed it finds is where pets sleep, I'm not sure in what order it searches whether it's left to right, top to bottom by position or whether by the order the furniture is placed, but looking at it, this shouldn't cause an issue where the pet decides to become one with the void outside the walls

Oh actually if it can't find a bed, it tries for a rug, if that isn't found it checks for any passable tile, maybe the first passable tile it found is outside the farmhouse walls (i.e no tiles on the buildings layer outside the wall), if it can't do that it get's teleported outside to the pet bowl

(also this check only occurs after 8pm when you enter the farm house but I don't think that's of any use to your issue)

[brave fable]

(is 'the void' the topleft corner, or somewhere else?)

[rocky copper]

Working on a little mod that adds a color overlay to a vanilla item, and I'm realizing there's two options here: I can use a 16x32 tilesheet that just includes the sprite and its overlay, but any existing instances of the object in storage show up invisible until you move them to your pockets or I can use a tilesheet the size of the entire springobjectstilesheet with only the sprite for the object I'm changing (and its overlay) but the change in game is instantaneous.
Anyone have personal preferences on which option is better?

[hard fern]

Why is invisible in the first place?

[obtuse wigeon]

You can use the "ToArea" field (if you're using content Patcher) inside the "EditImage" action to just target the specific 16x16 area of the vanilla item, you could thenm use the Patch mode "Overlay" to overlay the colour overlay? Unless I miss understood your message

[rocky copper]

My guess is existing instances are looking for the sprite at its original sprite index and it needs you to refresh the item in some way to make it adjust where it's looking for the sprite

[rocky copper]

Hold up, let me look into this

[obtuse wigeon]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editimage.md, Here's the link directly to "EditImage" if you don't have it already

[rocky copper]

I'm not sure this will work, unless I'm misunderstanding the suggestion. My goal is to add an optional color overlay to the sprite for honey so that machines can color it under certain conditions. I can't patch the color overlay into the springobjects tilesheet without messing up the sprite next to the honey, correct?

[lucid iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/30945

i believe honey is just not a coloredobject normally, hence this C# mod

[obtuse wigeon]

Ahh okay gotcha, I did misunderstand your original message then

[lucid iron]

you can use this tho, it has ways to add more honey sprites

[obtuse wigeon]

Is there a framework available that allows every sprite to have a colour overlay? big craftables/ objects/ furniture etc?

[lucid iron]

nop

[rocky copper]

Interesting to know someone's done a whole mod for that, though it's playing out a little differently for my purposes

I got the color overlay working through Content Patcher alone by adding my own texture

It just comes with this choice; giant tilesheet to reach sprite index 340 or refresh existing instances in the game

[lucid iron]

u can prob use betas for that

[rocky copper]

I'll ask this: the color overlay is part of a bigger system where I'm trying to distinguish honeys produced in different areas. Honey made on Ginger Island gets a price boost while honey made on the farm remains the same; problem is the stacks combine and the price difference gets lost if the Wild Honey from the island and the Wild Honey from home end up together. Tried changing the ObjectInternalName but it was making the Wild Honey and the flavored flower honey from the same locations combine. Color overlay was partly a means to prevent the stacks from combining

[rocky copper]

What are Betas?

Ah, Button's Extra Trigger Action Stuff?

[round timber]

yes

[rocky copper]

Hmm, I will be looking into this

[pine elbow]

so i want to get into mod making and i’m getting all the software needed to do it, is attempting to open stardewxnbhack and getting the windows defender popup normal

[hot gale]

Time to code in doctors and Clinics

Stitched together a singular clinic pulled from the town sprites lol

[urban patrol]

!unpack as long as you download the file from here and follow the instructions, you should be fine to ignore popups

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[pine elbow]

yeah that’s what i’m following i only ask bc i share the pc with a sibling despite me primarily using it

i appreciate it tho

[urban patrol]

!startmodding what kind of mod do you want to make? there are tutorials and guides available. most things like NPCs, maps, objects and more are doable through content patcher @slow coral

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[hot gale]

Im gonna need a much larger area for towns haha

[slow coral]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[round timber]

(read what governor said)

[hot gale]

So what is the theoretical limit for the scale of a single map in stardew?

[obtuse wigeon]

200 wide before layering issues occur

[hot gale]

Only 200? Oh man

[obtuse wigeon]

I want to say 2.17 billion / 16 for hight

[hot gale]

LOL

oh ok

[obtuse wigeon]

Highly depends on the data type used, But it's more than you could feasabley use that's for sure

Honestly 200 is deceptivly large, I always think I'm going to end up taking that amount of space but I never end up using that much at all

[brave fable]

a usual point of size reference is the town at roughly 100x100

which is enough for a whole lot of stuff

[obtuse wigeon]

Why Hasn't my building changed to the spring overlay? https://smapi.io/json/none/17eb4d75658540ba9e391d3b03e709ce
The Overlay files are all called "winterOverlay.png" with "winter" replaced with the seasons all lowercase

[brave fable]

a more practical limit is usually 180x180 before layering logic starts to break down

does it work with an underscore between season and name?

[hot gale]

Gotcha

[obtuse wigeon]

(I forgot to mention I slept from winter to spring)

[uncut viper]

i think rounding it down from 130x110 is doin it a pretty big disservice you can do a lot with that extra 30%

[uncut viper]

still not big enough to hold everyones houses though 😔

[hot gale]

Slightly edited town map im using for mayors town atm

(I was lazy with it)

170x110

[obtuse wigeon]

Nope also doesn't work, I'm not too sure why, Am I using the wrong season token?

[hot gale]

iirc when I was making my own buildings I have them named like {season}_HouseOne.png

Game logic does the rest, iirc

(This was like 6 months ago)

[obtuse wigeon]

I've just changed them to be {{season}}_Overlay.png which has worked for me too so I do not know why it isn't working this time

[hot gale]

ahh {{ }} my b

[brave fable]

ah, my bad, assumed it was map tilesheets without having read the file. could you run patch summary moduniqueidgoeshere when your overlay is meant to load?

[tired matrix]

guys, any idea what's wrong? My custom npc does all animation on his schedule but doesn't walk and leave the spawn place

[obtuse wigeon]

Sure, here you are: https://smapi.io/log/52d89519e7c24f2ab2ed4c17c3a0ab37
This is on the morning of the 1 of the season, It should've changed from spring to summer but hasn't

[ocean sail]

Oops, couldn't parse that file. Make sure you share a valid SMAPI log.

[obtuse wigeon]

It only changes on game restart, not by season change or patch reload, this is like the paint mask isssue I'm facing too

Commenting out the paint mask section fixes it, so it's somehow the paint mask interacting,

[hot gale]

https://tenor.com/r8UxKIKzFZ6.gif

[urban patrol]

!json have you slept a day? can you please share your schedule json with us by uploading it here?

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[tired matrix]

Yeah one sec

https://smapi.io/json/none/1b7f95069f504c3e87143ec916a71645

here

[urban patrol]

you likely have too many schedule points. NPCs walk incredibly slowly and cannot reach that many places in that amount of time

[tired matrix]

Does it have a max?

[hot gale]

Finally got a specialist dwarf to spawn :D

[tired matrix]

What should i do? Take some locations out or stretch the time?

[urban patrol]

no, it’s just how far you make them walk vs how much time you give them to get there

[urban patrol]

either or both

usually about 4-5 different locations in a day is as many as they can reasonably reach

[tired matrix]

I didnt even remember they were slow lol i just thought he needed to be walking all the sime

[brave fable]

it's important to remember that most characters spend their time doing sweet nothing

[urban patrol]

no, NPCs frequently will get to a location and stop there for several hours. you can look at vanilla schedules for an example

also, remember to sleep after changing the schedule before testing again

[tired matrix]

Ill copy sebastian’s hours lol

Thank you ♥️

[tired matrix]

Damn it didnt work he still doesnt move

He’s in his house and a set a warp to enter and exit, is it enough or is he stuck?

[urban patrol]

did you 1. save the correct file, 2. do a patch reload or restart the game, and 3. sleep a day?

you must make sure you've done all three

[tired matrix]

Yeah

[urban patrol]

so he doesn't move, but he does do his schedule animations?

[tired matrix]

https://smapi.io/json/none/db7d2c37233543cf9685d623f114bf85

NEW SCHEDULE

ignore the caps lock

[tired matrix]

Yeah

He does all animations

[urban patrol]

Library is not a valid location, it's ArchaeologyHouse

[tired matrix]

Oh really?????? I thought it was because in sebastian’s schedule its used

Let me see if it fixes then thank you

[urban patrol]

can you show me where you see that?

[tired matrix]

https://smapi.io/json/none/cd0836d472984a06b2196abea424079e

sebastian's schedule

[urban patrol]

i don't see any mention of library in there

[tired matrix]

omg am i nuts where did i see this

i was sure it was there damn

lets see if he walks now

[obtuse wigeon]

Okay I'm still puzzled on why the paint mask for the building is breaking things entirely, the mod also has a C# componant so I'm wondering is there something I can put in that to invalidate the paint mask and overlay, so that the correct one is re applied on season change?

[tired matrix]

yeah still not moving

[urban patrol]

did you make sure to follow all of these steps? if so, share your json again

(sorry to keep harping on the saving/reloading/sleeping, it's just frequently forgotten)

[tired matrix]

yep

https://smapi.io/json/none/2842d701778d4e06b906a2861ac36989

[urban patrol]

and what day is it in game for you?

[tired matrix]

is having a warp in and out enough? can nps leave like player w warp out?

[tired matrix]

green rain day summer sat

[urban patrol]

if you have a map property warp NPCs can use it, yes

is he moving around inside his house properly?

[tired matrix]

nope not moving at all

[urban patrol]

are you able to speak to him when you interact?

[tired matrix]

yes

[urban patrol]

hmm

hang on i just noticed--is this the entirety of your schedule file, or have you just copy pasted a section of it?

[tired matrix]

its entirety

[urban patrol]

okay so every patch you write needs to be within {} and needs to have an Action and a Target. to edit schedules, you would write a patch like so: https://smapi.io/json/none/5b414201c47b4eae922cab0c1ea38e26

(i think i remember that your NPC is named {{ModId}}_Xavier, but if not then change it to whatever his internal name is)

[tired matrix]

already changed now its just xavier

[urban patrol]

in that case, i highly recommend making it {{ModId}}_Xavier because it will prevent compatibility issues

[tired matrix]

but if i do animations dont work

[urban patrol]

if someone else makes an npc named xavier and doesn't append their mod id, it'll cause issues for both of you

[urban patrol]

can you send me where you define the animations?

[tired matrix]

on content w editdata

[urban patrol]

no i mean can you please share that json

[tired matrix]

ah okay

https://smapi.io/json/none/274f3ed970eb4e739931b230601adddb

[tired matrix]

actually i was taking it straight from XavierSchedule.json

cuz i took the tokens out

[vernal crest]

Don't change your NPC's internal name to xavier

That is going in the opposite direction to good mod practice and opens your mod up to incompatibility with other mods

[devout otter]

You'd need to Load a blank.json for the schedules and then EditData it, because tokens doesn't work with straight Load.

[tired matrix]

but didnt i take all tokens out?

[urban patrol]

the blank json must include only {}, also

[vernal crest]

No, you have tokens in the names of your maps

[devout otter]

{{ModId}}_HouseInterior that {{ModID}} part is token.

[tired matrix]

a

damn will fix it rn

[vernal crest]

(And again, taking the tokens out is not the way to fix this.)

[urban patrol]

tokens are very helpful we love tokens

as for your animations not working when you change his internal name, i don't see why that would be the case. there's nothing that intrinsically links the internal name and the key of the animation description; you are the one to tell the game when to use the animations inside the schedule

[vernal crest]

I think that was in reference to the fact that the sleep animation has to be all lowercase or something

[urban patrol]

ah that makes sense

[vernal crest]

But even if that's true, it doesn't affect any other animation key

[urban patrol]

(in which case. there's a token for that too!)

[tired matrix]

okay i think i did everything right lets see if it fixed https://smapi.io/json/none/c8847b19cd6c47c5bc456a86a6bd8523

[devout otter]

That's close! But the EditData for schedules should target Characters/Schedules/Xavier.

[urban patrol]

line 544 you have both an included gift taste and you edit the gift taste, by the way

[tired matrix]

Ah i didnt see it thanks

[vernal crest]

It looks like the animation <npc>_sleep in all lowercase is for spouses so they sleep at night but you can just give your spouse a schedule that has a sleep animation in it so I'm not sure you'd need the lowercase one anyway.

[tired matrix]

Ah i thought i would have to add it for this npc because he isnt vanilla

[urban patrol]

i believe you do still need to define the frames, yes

[tired matrix]

HES WALKING

[urban patrol]

iirc the only hardcoded frames are walk sprites, wedding sprites, and flower dance

[tired matrix]

THANK U SISTER

thanks again @vernal crest

[vernal crest]

You need to make an an animation with sleep in the name if you want the sleep behaviour (not being able to interact with them), but that is not the same as the one that requires the NPC name to be lowercase.

[tired matrix]

Ah i did both

I think im trying too hard lol

[urban patrol]

time for me to go reread the npc data wiki page lol

[tired matrix]

Thank you again i learned to read logs but there was no log i was going crazy lol

[urban patrol]

schedules are tricky because they don't always throw errors

[obtuse wigeon]

Is there any further documentation on paintmasks that isn't in the 1.5 migrate guide or spread out far through out the code?

[vernal crest]

Not that I've heard of. The only mention of them in the whole wiki is the 1.5 migration page. Have you searched here in discord?

[obtuse wigeon]

I did, that's where I got the link for the 1.5 migrate guide, it seems no one else has tried to do what I'm doing or it's worked for them perfectly fine, at least that I could find going back to 2023 in the server

[vernal crest]

I've not seen many people do stuff with paint masks.

[obtuse wigeon]

I see why given it isn't very documented, but it's also a forgotten feature imo, I rarely see people use it at all

I just wish they reloaded on season change rather than needing a whole game restart

[ornate locust]

I feel like people find it easier to just design buildings instead of fussing with paint masks

[junior mist]

hey hey, could i get some help understanding where i'm going wrong with the "texture" field, and how to fix it? everything else is coming through when i launch the game, except for the sprites/images. the error i'm getting from SMAPI says the assets don't exist. appreciate any help. https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/270897335ea444148ef88e17095a23f2

[vernal crest]

I have never tried painting in game because a) I always use retextures and they don't support paint masks and b) I imagine it doesn't look very good.

[ornate locust]

I want to say I've seen a paint mask mod before, but I don't think that'd help you unless you want some examples

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh i agree, disinging and making them is so much easier than implimenting a paint mask, but using a mask would make it so much easier to maintain and clean up the code

[ornate locust]

If you do, I can try to figure out where it was

[vernal crest]

You have to Load your textures to Mods\\{{ModId}}\\Pretzel etc before you can put them in your Texture field. They literally don't exist as far as the game is concerned.

[urban patrol]

can you share your log as well so we can find the specific errors?

[urban patrol]

oop never mind aba's on it

[obtuse wigeon]

I have looked for mods that try to make the paint mask change based on the season (For seasonal edits) but I can't find any that do that, they all just do the basic paint mask for a none seasonal building, which Iv'e got working perfectly

[vernal crest]

(Also, they don't need to be double backslashed like that. It can just be Mods/{{ModId}}/Pretzel. The double backslashes are only needed when you're writing a texture name in a slash-delimited string like furniture.)

[ornate locust]

https://www.moddrop.com/stardew-valley/mods/1039380-spanish-revival-buildings-wip Okay this does mention paint masks in seasonal

[hot gale]

https://youtu.be/0CsxdIKV-F8

[ornate locust]

So maybe it'll help?

[hot gale]

Progress video demonstration for my city management mod :D

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh thank you! I'll have a look at that to see if it can make it work using that as a reference!

[ornate locust]

I'm not sure if it's exactly what you're imagining, but I knew I remembered someone being thorough with paint masks, pretty sure this is the one

Sometimes looking through mods I don't even use is handy!

[junior mist]

does this mean i should create a new folder or file named {{ModId}} an dplace the images there?

[vernal crest]

No, the game can't see inside your folders. You need to tell Content Patcher to "put your files in the game" (not what's actually happening, but good enough for our purposes right now). Here's the documentation about load patches. https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-load.md

[vernal crest]

Ignore the rest of this tutorial because it's about crops, but since both seeds and crop produce are objects, this part is relevant. This is done by putting all the objects on the same spritesheet and then using SpriteIndex to tell the game which sprite on the spritesheet to use for each object (the Adding Crop Objects section), which I encourage you to do because it's better for performance to have fewer, larger spritesheets than one image for each sprite.

[hot gale]

Alpha v0.2 posted to Nexus for Mayor's Town :D

has new job assignment system, new food system, new clinic building with new doctor role, changed the questline up a bit to convert the town hall to be the point of contact for building construction in the town

[obtuse wigeon]

Unfortunatly they only use 1 paint mask for the building meaning the seasonal things also get recoloured

[urban patrol]

"{{ModId}}_Seance2/HostMail {{ModId}}_SeanceIngredientsComplete/Time 2000 2600": do i have the correct syntax for my preconditions here? i finally got a full patch summary log from a player and i can see that they've received the letter but the event still won't trigger for them

[junior mist]

cool cool, thank you i think i get it. lastly, can the editdata action be on the same file as the load action or should i put them in different files?

[obtuse wigeon]

They can be in the same file aslong as the editdata is after the load

[vernal crest]

Everything in a CP mod can always be in a single file unless you're using Local Tokens (which you are not).

Except for LTs, the only purpose of multiple files is to split a large file up for human readability.

[hallow prism]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/196
What i do is that i have my normal mask, using the classic mask colors. And then i overlay the seasonal details (or other details)

with a color that isn't one of the mask colors (usually i use black)

[lucid mulch]

(local tokens can also be single file, they would just be mostly redundant, as you can have localtokens directly on an EditData for example, its not exclusive to Include's)

[hallow prism]

or i believe (long time i didn't look) that i may even apply the overlay directly

[obtuse wigeon]

Ohh okay, that's similar to what I tried, but I tried editimage replace a paint mask with the seasonal details un coloured, I'll have a look at your mod now to see how you've done it, thank you!

[hallow prism]

i am a bit fuzzy on the details so yeah, look at how it's done and see if it's easier

[vernal crest]

You're right, I forgot they don't have to be on Includes because they feel like such a waste otherwise lol

[hallow prism]

a seasonal mask to "remove" the seasonal from the colored parts

[obtuse wigeon]

I wonder if that would fix the issue of the paint mask stopping everything from changing on season change too, if this fixes the issue then you're a life saver, and I'll be adding a bit to the wiki

[hallow prism]

i hope it'll help! i will not have time to explain stuff however mainly because i didn't look at stuff recently and so don't remember 😄

[obtuse wigeon]

Don't worry I work best from an example so this is perfect!

[gray bear]

hey so i added BETAS as a hard req for my summit map edit to make sure the paths layer actually spawns, and was wondering if it had to be? i mean for an ongoing save yes, but would it just work without for a new one? gonna make a test save to check anyway, but wondering if there is like, a known answer yknow

[hallow prism]

i don't believe it's needed for new saves, but if it's not an hard req you may have users asking same question often

so it's up to you to see how much it will annoys you

[vernal crest]

Unless you stick the trigger action behind a HasMod check, I think you'll get an error without BETAS

[gray bear]

HasMod only checks if the mod is in the mods folder, not if it's enabled right

and yeah... user questions

[slow coral]

Hi I cant create my .dll for a mod I am creating, can someone created it for me please?

I am on steam deck and unable to upload mods but I did on android but cant create .dll'

[vernal crest]

If the mod is in the Mods folder (without a period in front of the folder name) it is enabled. Stardrop works by telling SMAPI that the Mods folder is actually in a different folder, which it symlinks your enabled mods to. But if you ran SMAPI without Stardrop it would just read everything in your Mods folder. But HasMod checks the mod list in your game regardless.

[obtuse wigeon]

Okay I'm pretty sure that seasonal edits and paint masks do not cooperate on custom buildings, Lumina's mod works on the vanilla buildings but I've basically copied the way their mod works (even tried the dynamic tokens rather that the {{season}} token) and yet the seasonal edit's don't change on season change

[gray bear]

uhh anyone know of an outside bench facing north in any tilesheet? i know spring_outdoors_tilesheet2 has one used for the summit but it has a rocky tile under it and i don't want it. if there isn't one i'll just, do a tilesheet edit

[obtuse wigeon]

Umm there's been a development, patch export on the building and the paint mask exports the expected season varient, however the game either still shows the old building or shows the correct building with the wrong paint mask?, First two images are the patch export which are correct for the season (winter), however the third image shows the correct season but wrong paint mask (Fall). I have no idea what's happening

[gray bear]

actually if i were to edit a part of the tilesheet using edit_image, it being spring_outdoors_tilesheet2, will recolors still work on it? guessing not because override new tilesheet time

[obtuse wigeon]

They would work if the recolour loads after yours, however they might add the rock back

[gray bear]

yeah... new bench tilesheet leggo

good thing outdoor maps change by season no matter what

oh wait, new tilesheet would also not work with recolors

[obtuse wigeon]

They would not, inless you make the tilesheets recolour compatiable

[gray bear]

i can make it earthy comp, considering i've got the textures

and prolly others but like

effort

what are like

the most popular ones

[obtuse wigeon]

Daisy niko earthy, starblue (even though it's currently unofficially supported), and soft slow seasons I think are some of the main ones

[gray bear]

i also add earthy ok yeah sure

[obtuse wigeon]

These are the recolours I got when I asked in modded chat, roughly in order of most used:
[x] Vanilla
[x] Earthy
[x] Wittily
[x] StarBlue
[x] Blue Grass Recolour
[x] Recolor Stardew Foliage
[ ] Soft Slow Seasons
[ ] Pinkstations Cotton Recolor
[ ] Stardew Foliage Redone (No longer available and no unofficial version)
[ ] Vibrant Pastoral Redone (Can't find the tiles to colour match)

(Ignore the [] and [x] I just copied it from my mod desc)

[gray bear]

i'll include a tutorial on how to add custom ones

hope vpr has the seasons outdoors_tilesheet2

has Wittily been udpated to 1.6

[obtuse wigeon]

Not officially

[devout otter]

(Vibrant Patoral Recolor is the second most downloaded recolor after Earthy.)

[gray bear]

alrght gotta have vpr

[obtuse wigeon]

(Ahhh thank you, I think that was added to the bottom as it wasn't something I could add easily)

[gray bear]

see u guys in about 10 years

[obtuse wigeon]

I thought there was an unofficial update for wittily but it turns out there wasn't

[gray bear]

oh well

if the og has the tilesheet i need should be fine

when was the summit added

wondering if i should make the config auto detect recolors that's just dynamic tokens ain't it

[devout otter]

Yep.

[obtuse wigeon]

I did an auto detect setting but I think i did it in a very extra way cause I didn't know about dynamic tokens at the time

[gray bear]

what did u do

[obtuse wigeon]

I did this:https://smapi.io/json/none/0b160209af354f5a95852e469667d04f, the entire file minus the very last is for autodetecting recolours

[gray bear]

10 edit images?

[obtuse wigeon]

Even worse

[gray bear]

i was close

jebus

[obtuse wigeon]

Many "Loads"

I'm suprised it actually works looking back at it

[gray bear]

no reason for it not to

[obtuse wigeon]

True but it certainly isn't advised that's for sure

[gray bear]

just a bit tedious

yeah not the best practice™

[obtuse wigeon]

At least it was as tedious as making recipes for every edibility value in the game, had to make a script for that and it fills Lookup Anything crafting recipe section

I'm pretty sure I could just do it as a query now

[gray bear]

prolly

with the power of math

[golden spire]

I am English, unless you mean someone else :p, I did try to help someone who was trying to translate the game into Welsh, getting the alphabet to work correctly.

[gray bear]

these are all the same besides the last one aren't they

i wonder if recolors do the same

[obtuse wigeon]

I think most recolours just apply a hue shift and modify brightness/ contrast in photoshop or similar, I know Earthy does that as there's photoshop files to help with making sprite sheets that match

[gray bear]

hey uhh how do i use when to set a negative

like i want something to apply when the config isn't on auto

[hallow prism]

contains and false

i don't remmeber exact format

[obtuse wigeon]

Let me dig through my files and I can find it

[gray bear]

i think it's like that but im never sure

[obtuse wigeon]

Looks like it, however I've only used contains for has mod

"HasMod |contains=DaisyNiko.EarthyRecolour": false,

[gray bear]

i think it's the same format for everything

oh shit ok i need a = not :

[obtuse wigeon]

I'm glad my new keyboard has the pipe glyph, it would've made writing content packs so much more annoying

[gray bear]

pipe glyph?

[obtuse wigeon]

the | character, I think it's called pipe unless I'm thinking of the wrong name

[gray bear]

oh! don't ask me i literally just call it a line

- _ | all lines

[fading walrus]

Stick

[obtuse wigeon]

There are so many lines, you could probably make a windmill with just the lines

[gray bear]

[vernal crest]

Hyphen: -
Underscore: _
Pipe: |

[fading walrus]

https://tenor.com/view/thomas-the-tank-engine-windmill-thomas-windmill-thomas-and-friends-gif-11934021223004412313

[obtuse wigeon]

Back-slash:
Forward-slash: /
Broken stick: ¦

[gentle rose]

— em dash
– en dash

[gray bear]

lines

[gentle rose]

okay but I've always wondered. what is the broken stick

[gray bear]

i've seen those like, stone-ish paths on map. are they in spring_outdoors

i want, em

[obtuse wigeon]

So have I, I actually don't know where its ever used

okay so ¦ is the archaic form of |

Seemingly as a way to distinguish | and I and l (Monospace font my beloved <3)

[gray bear]

like these

are are the these

[obtuse wigeon]

Might steal them and add them to my paths mod, I've been looking for more smaller stone designs cause the stepping stones are too big

[gentle rose]

interesting that it's a separate char instead of a font choice

[gray bear]

oh

they might be from a tilesheet mod

yes

from kissa

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/28434

[obtuse wigeon]

It stems from before computers had easily changable font, ISO/IEC 8859-1 diffrenciated it from the unbroken pipe

[gray bear]

https://staticdelivery.nexusmods.com/mods/1303/images/28434/28434-1750677135-1499709383.gif

behold, le rock

...this was a gif

[obtuse wigeon]

Ahh I shalln't steal them then, I shall ask nicely if they'll allow it

[gray bear]

i could use them, they have 3 recolor support

nvm i am

blind vanilla tilesheet does have em

[obtuse wigeon]

WOOO, I shall 100% add them without the grass to my mod

[gray bear]

it's spring_outdoors_tilesheet

[obtuse wigeon]

Thank you!

[gray bear]

mod author support each other

[obtuse wigeon]

Indeed we do, that's why I love modding stardew so much, everyones great

[brave fable]

ooops, definitely the dragon throwing me off. and the whole llanfairpwllgwyngyll thing

[obtuse wigeon]

I love hearing how people say the town name, it always makes me laugh

[gray bear]

decided to re-do my map and am in tiled hell

getting, somewhere

[obtuse wigeon]

Isn't there already a tile for the two curved ones at the top?

or are those the vanilla tiles?

[gray bear]

it's all vanilla

[blissful panther]

Don't forget the "new" 1.6 spring_outdoorsTileSheet2.png! It has a couple of potential top facing cliff tiles.

The problem is the dirt for them is the darker dirt, so you'd have to use ones with no visible dirt.

[gray bear]

i am using it but i am trying

[blissful panther]

Yeah, it's tricky finding where tiles are intended to line up.

[gray bear]

to get from grass to rock

or dirt ig

tis hell

[obtuse wigeon]

I might dive back into tiled and try more of the terrain sets

[blissful panther]

I really started something with that seed of knowledge!

[gray bear]

is there this tile but darker dirt somewhere

literally found it

after i asked

[obtuse wigeon]

you did! I've been loving messing around with it trying to make a total terrain set, cliffs and all

[blissful panther]

Do you want another rabbit hole to go down?

[obtuse wigeon]

oh always

[blissful panther]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uaIQau4woSM

You could theoretically do cliffs fully automatically using just, say, the cliff bottom tiles.

[gray bear]

i am feeling hate

[obtuse wigeon]

I was just thinking could I do some auto matic map making by placing a few tiles, and apparently so! you read my mind

[gray bear]

i hate cliff

why are all the good ones next to water

[obtuse wigeon]

can you make a location perpetually winter using content patcher?

[vital lotus]

I think u can, should be in map property 🤔

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh ye that's basically a vanilla thing with the island and desert, I forgot about that

[lucid mulch]

I can't remember if a map by itself can but put your location in a new location context and it easily can

[vital lotus]

SeasonOverride <string season>

[obtuse wigeon]

That's perfect, I don't think anyone has made a specifically only winter area so it would be a good place to make to test out Tiled terrain sets more and map autogeneration

[cold marsh]

Is it possible to only replace sound effects in a specific location or location context?

[tender bloom]

I expect it’s possible with Cp When conditions but may cause lag

(Sound files are rather large, typically)

Worth investigating the two options for how to load sounds

[cold marsh]

It's just replacing monster sound effects with similar short clips but I assumed combining audio changes with When conditions would be bad, yeah

[tender bloom]

I mean I think if you can get both files to preload it’s not so bad, I just don’t know if that’s possible

(With CP, at least)

[gray bear]

time to download more recolors to steal benches

my bench, doesn't have a shadow

do i,,, need one

[vital lotus]

U can check the base game bench and try to match if you like

[gray bear]

base game bench just has floor

wait no

there is a shadow