making-mods-general

[royal stump]

JA items existed in the normal object data, it was just like "get an ID from item Name"
(to avoid trying to recognize them by int IDs)

[gentle rose]

which I hope are a great many

[lucid iron]

In pre 1.6 i figured you needed ja to tell you about the actual specific generated parentsheetindex

[calm nebula]

Chue would you ever want to have fast food dumplings in the US

[lucid iron]

Uh how do you mess up dumpling

So sure why not

[gentle rose]

I take that as a challenge

[dapper crown]

@manic gull Can you provide a little more context so I can understand your mod?

1. Did you use an LLM to generate any code? If so, I'm afraid nobody here has the hours necessary to entangle this mess.
2. Is this your original work or are you attempting to port a mod by someone else?
3. Is your mod supposed to have any direct dependency on or integration with SVE?

[lucid iron]

Well I hope you don't put in any smelly eggs

[calm nebula]

Yeah, older mods (like stf, aquarium, ftm) often relied on the internal name instead

Which was not great either!

You know how currently aquarium dies if you put in two fish with the same internal name?

That's why

[obtuse wigeon]

(I have managed to turn them into soup, not dumpling soup, just a very stodgy soup, taste was great, feel was not)

[lucid iron]

All of you are deported from china forever/j

[humble timber]

lmao

[royal stump]

aren't internal names supposed to be unique?

(being censored by discord)

not that anyone respected that back then with item packs ig

[calm nebula]

Please. Do you expect a content modder to follow good practices

Do you really

[hard fern]

i love dumbpling

[lucid iron]

No :)

[calm nebula]

I like to joke that I used to program as if every other modder was incompetent and the users were actually out to get me

[royal stump]

anyway it's nbd, I just prefer an API over the enlightened era of "I will harmony patch other mods w/o ever speaking to them"

[dapper crown]

Namespacing? You want me to put spaces in the name? /j

[calm nebula]

If there is any fucking way a content mod can put a null in an asset i will expect to find a null there.

[patent lance]

New quote added by irocendar as #6557 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1406334360659165307)

[blissful panther]

I'm not sure how it ended up like this, but the biggest problem I can see in this mod is:

JA = Helper.ModRegistry.GetApi<IJsonAssetsApi>(""spacechase0.JsonAssets"");

Monitor.Log($""Destroy Furnace JA-ID: {destroyFurnaceId}"", LogLevel.Debug);

Etc, etc.... so many double quotes are... double double quotes for some reason.

[lucid iron]

I was told to harmony patch it by pathos

[blissful panther]

With those fixed, it's just a couple of Stardew changes.

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #6558 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1406334343235764284)

[gentle rose]

this is the part that confuses me the most too, because... that isn't an LLM's doing

[royal stump]

(idk any specific context for that, I was thinking of some mods that will break when I rename FTM methods )

[lucid iron]

This morning I was looking at portraiture support and bc plat is gone i also just harmony patched it

[royal stump]

it's just easier to maintain if someone is like "please put a method in the api" instead

[calm nebula]

The secret reason why ftm was nested classes i see

[lucid iron]

Yeah the specific context was LA support for a stardewui menu

[dapper crown]

Yeah, that and extremely outdated practices, non-existent version of a nuget package, and a ton of references to stuff that doesnt exist

[lucid iron]

There were framework reasons why I can't use the normal method (hoverItem field on IClickableMenu)

[royal stump]

anything in FTM before like 2021 is "idk what the Mod class is or what a framework is or how to decompile the game"

after that it's just "okay if I stop using partial I need to fix every file"

[calm nebula]

You wrote ftm without decompiling?????

[royal stump]

I was using someone's public github decompile of like sdv 1.2

[lucid iron]

That's cursed good job

[royal stump]

and literally just prodding the game with intellisense

[calm nebula]

How

Wow. I'm amazed

[obtuse wigeon]

That's unbelievably cursed and massivly impressive

[royal stump]

all FTM did at first was add objects to gamelocations from a json class

[lucid iron]

The very first thing i did when i was gonna mod is coming here and asked about whether the game is obsfucated

[gentle rose]

I mean tbf. prodding the game with intellisense is much more effective than you'd think

I did a lot of that when I started modding

[calm nebula]

Not when game1 is ten thousand lines!

[lucid iron]

Yeah i also just intellisense view source when im lazy

[blissful panther]

Yeah. We don't want to be harsh, though!

@manic gull, the biggest problem you seem to be having is in my message here: #making-mods-general message

1. There are a lot of unnecessary double quotes. ""this"" versus "this", for instance.
2. The hardcoded paths to Stardew and SMAPI are unnecessary. The ModBuildConfig package will add those when you point it to the correct game path like this in the csproj:

<PropertyGroup>
  <GamePath>C:\game\path\here</GamePath>
</PropertyGroup

Get those fixed, and people able to help can help out with the parts that are specifically Stardew changes!

[royal stump]

yeah game1 was like "okay player = farmer, uhhhh nevermind the rest"

[gentle rose]

no like. intellisense autocomplete

[calm nebula]

I wonder if there will be a game2

It would be so funny

[lucid iron]

Say esca since you are redoing ftm as esca flavored trigger action actions

[calm nebula]

If y'all open up haunted chocolate and it's game2

[blissful panther]

Wait, Esca's doing what?

[lucid iron]

Can i register custom actions with ftm

[dapper crown]

Yeah im pretty sure now that its supposed to be a mod port to new ver, just completely missing that context..

[gentle rose]

iirc game1 is a monogame thing

[blissful panther]

Game is a MonoGame thing. Game1 is just the default class name for their templates.

[royal stump]

yep, it's designed to allow for API-added action types

[lucid iron]

Yay

[gentle rose]

but it's been a very long time since I made a monogame game

[calm nebula]

It is what

[lucid iron]

I want to make ftm handle spawning and despawning of my custom enemies (eventually (mayhaps))

[calm nebula]

Custom enemies

[dapper crown]

Game1 shoulda been called StardewGame or something

[lucid iron]

Aka children/j

[dapper crown]

🕊️

[lucid iron]

No rush though my thing doesn't even have a NewMod(1).cs yet

[calm nebula]

Please

[royal stump]

I probably can't avoid having some "monsterFTM" classes even in the rework, so w/e spawn/despawn monster action might support that automatically
but if necessary, yeah, it should be easy enough to register a custom one

@blissful panther an expanded trigger action system like this for CP, basically

[lucid iron]

Pizza.

[gentle rose]

so THAT'S why I was setting override to blank

diy skipping prefix without skipping

[lucid iron]

Bery stylish

What if you just postfix get_Portrait

[royal stump]

"settings" is a class entirely made up by each action handler, so you'd register an "action handler" factory object, and the handler* can do w/e it wants

[blissful panther]

https://tenor.com/bO2YA.gif

[lucid iron]

That's what portraiture foes

[gentle rose]

animation seemed easier this way but I'm not set on it

[blissful panther]

I wonder how badly this breaks some of MEEP's dialogue box stuff...

[gentle rose]

what does meep do to the dialogue box?

this uses a postfix and a non skipping prefix

[lucid iron]

Iro if you break the 🐬 and the 🎣 I'll be so sad

Like -250 friendship level of sad

[gentle rose]

what are those and how do I test if they're broken

[lucid iron]

Uh you can test whenever dolphin releases portraits for extras

It's this little thing

https://github.com/Mushymato/PortraitsForAll

I should clarify I'm joking here and it seems unlikely that we'd conflict

[gentle rose]

yeah, I don't see why we would

[lucid iron]

But hrm

You might have trouble fetching the speaker's real name?

I think all of them have npc.Name = ???, I'll do something about this later

[gentle rose]

I'm gonna have a look at migrating to getPortrait so I don't have to tbh

I do hate having to redraw parts of the UI

[lucid iron]

Get portrait doesn't really solve everything tho you gotta do extra draw logic for animation regardless

[gentle rose]

yeah but I don't have to redraw ui which is good for compat

I have to do extra logic for anims anyway

[lucid iron]

Something I've done before is a transpiler that replaced a specific spritebatch.draw with my own

Then i do whatever extra draw i need inside

[gentle rose]

I don't want to transpile in this mod >:(

[lucid iron]

Then perish

[gentle rose]

wait I already am patching drawPortrait

chu why are you confusing me on purpose

have mercy on your local confused person

[calm nebula]

It is intentional

[lucid iron]

Idk i didn't audit your code

[calm nebula]

We could also go for fast food dumplings like the ones i had in a Beijing fast train station

[gentle rose]

however... what if I move my draw to my prefix then I don't have to redraw the UI

it doesn't actually need to be in the postfix for any reason

[lucid iron]

Atra if you come to China we going to the fancy pants dim sum place

[calm nebula]

I'll be in beijing in November!

[lucid iron]

Ah no dim sum up there then

And also i used up vacay this year

[patent lance]

New quote added by celestia187 as #6559 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1406341402131959932)

[lucid iron]

I wish we had infixes

They would replace the most common flavor of transpiler I do

[gentle rose]

aren't infixes just non-IL transpilers?

so. why does typing a command in the chatbox un-borderless-fullscreen my game

[lucid iron]

https://gist.github.com/pardeike/e7cf2eace478b0754c6f46198197bb62

I dunno if they are released tbh but the idea seems like you can target a particular callsite

[calm nebula]

I'm basically planning on going to Beijing every year in November

What

[gentle rose]

that's an interesting name for a mod /lh

[calm nebula]

Ok I'll stop being off topic

[gentle rose]

oh I could just. not redraw the ui. why was I redrawing the ui

[humble timber]

mods? in my making mods general?

[lucid iron]

Impossible

[dapper crown]

https://tenor.com/beas0.gif

[gentle rose]

rider the first one isn't more readable than the second one

[calm nebula]

Consider an xor

[lucid iron]

I dislike that you are putting expressions in switch case

[gentle rose]

I'm not

that was rider's idea

[lucid iron]

I amend my complaint to rider cus what is this

[gentle rose]

exactly!

[calm nebula]

typing.Value ^ __instance.getCurrentString().Length > blah

[gentle rose]

but they do different things, atra

I'd just have to add a ternary anyway

[dapper crown]

Switching on a bool is wild

[gentle rose]

right? why is that even a recommendation that rider makes

[calm nebula]

Yes, but it's more clear!

[gentle rose]

a ternary is never more clear /lh

[calm nebula]

(When things are different from previous state we do different tbings)

I'm not serious btw

Although I personally would have done the xor because I'm not a programmer

[gentle rose]

reporting you to crumble

[dapper crown]

Ternaries are fine, sometimes

im surprised that I only have one ternary in fishbot tbh

Found one

[gentle rose]

(c# modders, what would you use to store a width, height value?)

[lucid iron]

Point

[gentle rose]

not Rectangle? that's what Texture2D uses

[dapper crown]

Rectangle is a point + dimensions

[lucid iron]

thats a position and width height

[dapper crown]

Vector2 is a bit more general, dk if you wanna use that instead

[lucid iron]

vector2 if you got floats for some reason

[gentle rose]

yeah ik, just talking semantics, Texture2D uses rect for their size so you can do Size.Width instead of Size.X

[lucid iron]

ask the monogame ppl about it

possibly a philosophy thing, if Point is reserved for pure positional info

for sdv rather than size, the more useful value is a source rect

which is definitely a rectangle cus it's got position

[gentle rose]

not useful for me in this case because it can vary

because I'm just defining tile size in the spritesheet essentially

[lucid iron]

you can still use a source rect for that

[gentle rose]

yeah that's my thinking

[lucid iron]

if the texture isnt sliced exactly

[gentle rose]

just a 0,0 source rect

[lucid iron]

but eh up to you

in trinkets i just used 2 ints width and height cus i am define exactly what the layout needs to be

[gentle rose]

...I'm gonna be true neutral and make my own struct

[lucid iron]

the reason was something to do with Point not working correctly via CP at the time

so having them as individual fields was easier to edit

you may find this a compelling reason too

[gentle rose]

[lucid iron]

i dont think you can edit this unless you make your own json converter

[gentle rose]

doesn't need to get directly edited rn, I'll deal with that later

[lucid iron]

i recmmend testing with a pack tbh

notice a lot of cp quirks from the get go

[gentle rose]

(I haven't implemented content patcher connectivity yet)

that's actually my next item on my to do list ()

[upper forum]

Hey, so I've been wondering something about publishing mods. Do mods get better discoverability/visibility if they get consistent updates, or is it better to wait until they're basically complete and then publish? Obviously you want a working core for the mod before publishing either way, but I'm wondering if breaking it into smaller updates would help get more eyes on it, or does that not really factor into more visibility on Nexusmods?

[gentle rose]

I think the recommendation is against WIP mods

people don't like to download things that aren't complete, and updates don't get much visibility

[hard fern]

Its better to upload your complete mod, and if you have subsequent updates just update over time

[blissful panther]

I think it really depends what WIP/incomplete means in the context of your mod. The first version of Smart Building for instance was... ouch. In hindsight, that was hard incomplete.

[calm nebula]

I would do a complete mod and a nontrivial update five days in

😛

I also would drop the first release on a Friday night

But the real truth is: mods i wrote in 2hrs took off. Mods i spent weeks on don't break 1k downloads

[ornate locust]

Absolutely don't aim to break up your mod into updates. Update if you need, but don't plan to break it up like that specifically for eyes on

that would be actively detrimental to what you want

[upper forum]

I see, thanks for the input, guys! I'm making a portrait mod and it's... a lot of portraits, lol. And I've been toying with the idea of uploading them in batches (all the bachelors and bachelorettes, a bunch more NPCs, etc)

[lucid iron]

you could do that if you want

compilation mod at the end

[humble timber]

i think thats a lot more normal for portraits yeah

[ornate locust]

Personally, I prefer a fairly cohesive look to NPC portraits, so having them all at once would be better. But if it's a portrait mod, that is more normal to do it in batches actually

just indicate you plan on finishing it out

Like with portraits, you don't have to play to see the "content" like other mods

Can just pop it in. So it works better with batches than other mods

[upper forum]

Yeah. Though I do worry that having it be too small of a mod would hurt its initial visibility since I imagine folks do prefer all the NPCs looking the same

[ornate locust]

That is a worry too

[brittle ledge]

I would actually ask this question in #modded-stardew and ask the users if they prefer all in one packs or broken out and which they're more likely to download. The portrait mods that get the most traction overall tend to be complete (DSV, SCA, Nyapu) but there are plenty of others that have success with less coverage, I think.

[upper forum]

Ooh, that's a good idea, thanks!

[hard fern]

Personally if i know the author is planning on updating it then I'd be willing to wait even if it's incomplete at the moment

[brittle ledge]

I'll also say that the first week of your release (when it has a chance to hotmod) is the time when you have the most visibility on it on Nexus,

[upper forum]

Yeah, that's been my impression too, as a long-time mod user lol

hotmod as in, be in the trending section?

[urban patrol]

does anyone know if monsters the framework (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/10673) still works (says updated 2022, so i’m not sure if 1.6 would have borked it)? is registering custom monsters through spacecore’s API preferable? is that easier than doing it from scratch myself? for reference, i don’t know C#, but i have some experience with java

[royal stump]

MTF is still incompatible with SDV 1.6, as far as I know (and smapi.io/mods says so).
If you're doing custom monster classes in C#, you need to do one of these to prevent crashing whenever SDV tries to save:
a) register it with spacecore (and possibly remove them overnight yourself, because I think they stay on-site indefinitely otherwise?)
b) spawn them only through FTM
c) do custom serialization yourself (probably don't, it's annoying and any mistakes are silent until save-crash)

[dapper crown]

My fishbot was on 1st page trending for like two days at most

[hard fern]

(whats mtf)

[royal stump]

spacecore's the safest as far as not-crashing, and you can do A+B to make sure FTM never crashes due to missing them*, etc

Monsters - The Framework, casey's custom monster design framework

[lucid iron]

d) do the removal in Saving and restore on Saved yourself

[urban patrol]

oh i didn’t think to check smapi.io, thank you! i’ll look at doing it through spacecore then since i already work with it a lot in my mod, though i’m not averse to having FTM too

[lucid iron]

restore optional ofc

[royal stump]

basically what I mean with C, but also android and mid-say save mods don't respect those

[lucid iron]

its ok they can explode

[urban patrol]

i was doing some preliminary reading yesterday and the wiki mentioned that SMAPI handles crashes for you so that you get an error instead of force quitting—is that only in some cases?

[lucid iron]

especially midsave mods tho why do they not respect this

it's the whole point ???

i also remember seeing that android smapi disables the vanilla midday saves for this reason

[urban patrol]

also, do frameworks go through SMAPI?

[gray bear]

this will just run everyday without some kinda when condition right

[royal stump]

I think the newer quicksave PC mod does, but FTM's also weird so we worked on some interfacing anyway

[lucid iron]

all non xnb mods go through smapi

[royal stump]

the older one was passed between hands a few times and never called/provoked the SMAPI events

[lucid iron]

you just may be going through content patcher who goes through smapi

[urban patrol]

you need to mark action unapplied if you want that

[gray bear]

so it'll just happen once? at the start of the save?

[lucid iron]

it does, but it's not 100% reliable

i think a big area with no trycatch is draw

very easy to explode that one

[brittle pasture]

and day ending logic

(not the SMAPI event)

[urban patrol]

yeah lol i remember when i fucked up my pet icon textures it just died trying to draw the menu

[royal stump]

yeah, afaik it still does this specifically for FTM, because the normal save events and pre-1.6 android save events don't happen I guess
(I still don't have the code or android version )

[gray bear]

confused bea noises

but what else is new. time for a new save? uhhh

[brittle pasture]

(if _newDayAfterFade calls your code and it explodes the game explodes with it)

[lucid iron]

nrt narathip obviously has a decompile

[brittle pasture]

(why did that message take 10 years to send)

[lucid iron]

and when i asked about shop menu they helped check things for me

[gray bear]

(discord is being mean)

[lucid iron]

i dont think it's public anywhere

[royal stump]

discord's been like that today

and yeah I can probably join their discord to ask, but the actual decompile process would require me to fix python on my pc

• no updates for the pathos repo in 1.6

[gray bear]

how would one, do that? for testing purposes

[brittle pasture]

welp, speaking of android apparently narathip's EMC fork still explodes

[lucid iron]

i like having a excuse to not provide support /j but actually /srs

[urban patrol]

“MarkActionApplied”: false, i believe

[brittle pasture]

back to recommending version 1.6.0

[urban patrol]

oops that’s @ bea

[gray bear]

thanks!
-# please don't ping me in replies though

[lucid iron]

so nic putting aside the C# sauce

what type of custom monster do you want?

FTM can do simple reskinned monster with custom stat if that's all you need

[urban patrol]

my loftiest goal is a 64x64 big ol spider thing

[lucid iron]

reskinned pepper rex fire breathing spider

[urban patrol]

doesn’t have to have super complex behaviors, probably just some skittering, maybe some lunging or jumping

[lucid iron]

yea hm sounds like you want a big version of the spider enemy in hard mines

[brittle pasture]

does FTM support arbitrary monster sprite size

[gray bear]

ah yes, more spiders

[urban patrol]

ironically i hate spiders and shuddered through every minute of drawing

[brittle pasture]

if C# is involved I think you can make any monster sprites as big as you want without changing behavior

[royal stump]

not without a custom class, it just replaces the sprite field on monster instances for that setting

[lucid iron]

what if you just make it so that there are a ton of spooders

[royal stump]

you could probably mimic the rex code to get non-1x1 pathing to work, etc

[urban patrol]

yeah i figured i would need some level of C# for this

[calm nebula]

Non 1x1 pathfinder should be fine

[lucid iron]

dont spiders just

[calm nebula]

Unless you want them to take warps

[lucid iron]

pick an open spot

and go there

[calm nebula]

Spiders jump though

[lucid iron]

no path finding involved really

[calm nebula]

Yup

[gray bear]

well this doesn't seem correct

[brittle pasture]

(for Darkwings the big void chickens are just sized up shadowguys)

[royal stump]

yeah picking a jump target for a 4x4 would be new code
(not complicated, but new)

[brittle pasture]

(the ||Goose|| too)

[gray bear]

or maybe i'm bad at rectangles

[calm nebula]

Also a jump target that is 4x4 seems uncommon enough

[urban patrol]

would you believe i’ve never actually fought spiders in sdv myself

[calm nebula]

So maybe the spider crushes thinfs

[urban patrol]

i mainly played before 1.6 came out

[calm nebula]

I have also never fought spiders

[urban patrol]

that would be cool

[calm nebula]

We like spiders

They are allowed to live in the house

[royal stump]

same, I only know about monsters by spawning every class I see

(same @ pre-1.6) (I am bad with spiders irl)

[gray bear]

i fought a spider

annoying

[calm nebula]

All y'all forgetting spiders are 1.5 smh

[brittle pasture]

I like spiders, I live with at least two rn

[royal stump]

I mean I only played-played in 1.3

until mid-fall, though I did clear the mine by then

[gray bear]

[urban patrol]

if it helps visualize btw this is the basic sprites i have rn (warning for a spider, obviously)

[gray bear]

why did i just click that

[lucid iron]

terror

[calm nebula]

I've only really played 1.5 tbh

[lucid iron]

(good job, but terror)

[gray bear]

start reading bea goshdarnit

[obtuse wigeon]

That is beautifully horrific

[calm nebula]

Any earlier is before my time

[obtuse wigeon]

I love it

[calm nebula]

Any later is after my time

That's creepy

[gray bear]

alright i

[urban patrol]

it’s made of baby doll parts and i’m glad i captured the horrific nature of it. but i sure don’t like looking at it

[lucid iron]

go nagai turtle (don't click if you are frighten)

[gray bear]

don't get these triggr actions

[obtuse wigeon]

knowing that make it INFINITLY worse

[calm nebula]

That's creepy

[gray bear]

is Grass not a C# class type

[royal stump]

"oh a junji ito...wait that's not how he draws faces"

[brittle pasture]

you're missing a pair of legs

[urban patrol]

too few pixels even with 4x4 tiles lol

it wasn’t readable with 8 legs

[gray bear]

#not technically a spider

[urban patrol]

#notmyspider

[gray bear]

anyway im confused and lost

[lucid iron]

man i once thought about like

a rigging system

spline animation in sdv

it was gonna be 3hard5me

[gray bear]

[lucid iron]

so i just stole the snek code and called it a day

[gray bear]

🐍

[obtuse wigeon]

Oh I wish that was a thing so bad, I'd be making an eldritch horrow mod if that esisted

[gray bear]

chutulu now in the sdv near u

[hard fern]

i somehow read sdv as sewer???

[urban patrol]

wait just to check: did you try it on a new save after adding the mark action applied line

i remember we had an issue with that before

[gray bear]

i-

i am going to do that

thx

[obtuse wigeon]

mutant carp? nahh Cuthulu carp!

[hard fern]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa i hate working on my mod. not because i hate the mod but because i hate working

why can't it just materialize itself from my brainwaves

[gray bear]

god same

[brittle pasture]

cthulhu carp should activate all 12 Rage Bait modes

[gray bear]

selph is cooking

[royal stump]

just checked to make sure, but "Grass" seems to be the correct class name for betas

[gray bear]

!!!

[hard fern]

is the grass yeeted

[gray bear]

it was i just uh, needed a new save

[hard fern]

LOL

[urban patrol]

trigger actions are so annoying to test lol glad that worked

[gray bear]

yes and i cleared some trees and bushes to not spawn inside my stall

so if someone installs this on an ongoing save it will run once correct?

that's all i need

[calm nebula]

Yup

Although you can remove the mark action applied noe

[gray bear]

yeah t'was just for testing i got the pixels right. it will not be in the release

[ornate trellis]

i hate when i have tilesheet issues because i always forget how to fix em

[gray bear]

reasons me and tilled are seperated honestly

[ornate trellis]

https://smapi.io/log/0086cd251c6e4cbea7458a5c9d420c8c

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26100.0, with 58 C# mods and 58 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[ornate trellis]

.....windows NT??? gov you're drunk

[gray bear]

whats a windows nt

[gentle rose]

windows nt = windows

[dapper crown]

Its the name of the kernel

[gentle rose]

it shows up a lot

[autumn tide]

okay random cause idk how to help or anything and I'm not even involved in the convo but I love that image omg

[ornate trellis]

thanks i just made it

the win NT i remember is from 1993 but anyway wth happened to my tliesheets and shit

[gray bear]

wait

i know about this tilesheet error

[gentle rose]

all windows since then is win nt

[gray bear]

where are ur tilesheets void

[ornate trellis]

inch resting

in my maps folder

[hard fern]

did you load them(?) if they're not sitting pretty right next to the maps themselves

[gray bear]

wait this isn't the climbing one

[ornate trellis]

a

[gray bear]

yeah are they in the exact folder the map is in

[gentle rose]

no, this is an event error it looks like?

[ornate trellis]

I did in fact not load them

[hard fern]

there was an error i saw where it was like "cant find something something.xnb"

[ornate trellis]

Another L for the Void

[gray bear]

do elaborate

[urban patrol]

is this an issue buttons' map fixer could find and fix?

[gentle rose]

oh no I was just reading a different error lmao

[ornate trellis]

me: make sure to fucking load the map this time
also me: forgets to load the tilesheet instead

[gentle rose]

try the tiled extension though if you aren't yet! it won't load your tilesheets for you but you won't regret it

[ornate trellis]

the jokes write themselves

[gray bear]

if they're in the folder with the map that shouldn't happen

the error that is

[urban patrol]

(the map fixer in question: https://stardew.button.gay/tools/mapfixer)

[gray bear]

me when button.gay solves all my problem

[ornate trellis]

augh, another error

[gentle rose]

https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1399862293331972246

tiled extension thread btw, this handles it so you don't need to move things back and forth just to use tiled

[urban patrol]

i'm still so excited to try your extension btw. i haven't made any maps since you released it but i'm looking very intently

[ornate trellis]

yippie, its fixed

[gentle rose]

you know what it ended up saving me a ton of time on? looking at other people's maps

I don't even need to move them out of my downloads folder

[urban patrol]

omg yeah having to download RSV and SVE and unpacking them into my workspace folder was suuuuch a pain

[gentle rose]

one shortcut and all the tilesheets just work

[urban patrol]

they're all named the same thing so duplicates don't work

[gray bear]

good for the map people

[gentle rose]

like I thought it would mostly be for making maps but it turns out any stardew use of tiled can benefit lmao

[gray bear]

use tiled without wanting to break my pc?

revolutionary

(the fact i spelled that right on the firsty try is odd)

[hard fern]

i feel like im going crazy bc my mouse is suddenly acting funny

and not selecting things

"An extremely expensive looking coffee maker. Rich people must enjoy spending money on fancy appliances.", but here's another map string

(it took me like 5 tries to copy this??)

[gray bear]

mouse might be a traitor

more serious answer is it might be malfunctioning?

all my mice have done this

[placid pond]

I haven't quite yet but I'll keep trying TT^TT

[hard fern]

Right as i complained it stopped. So yes my mouse is a traitor and just hates me

[golden basin]

is there a mod that adds a GTQ for how many of a certain animal is bought or owned?

[lucid iron]

EAC i think?

https://github.com/zombifier/My_Stardew_Mods/tree/master/ExtraAnimalConfig#game-state-queries

selph.ExtraAnimalConfig_ANIMAL_COUNT

[golden basin]

Can i just write it like this ? selph.ExtraAnimalConfig_ANIMAL_COUNT Fellowclown.TW_Movoraptor 6

[lucid iron]

You need a 0 for the second argument friendship

[ornate trellis]

i feel like i am having a dejavu with this dumb event scripting

[hard fern]

trying to map mod while fighting tummyache demons :( not fun

[tropic thorn]

Probably a dumb question: in Fashion Sense framework, is it possible configure each sleeve separately?

[gentle rose]

update 👀 (rasmodia portrait and mouth animation by @safe kraken, janky blinking edit/animation by me which is why it's janky)

[hot gale]

Has anyone been successful in creating a randomized NPC, and making them wander around? I have been able to create 'unique' NPCs on the fly with C#, they essentially use the same method the Farmer does when hitting randomize in character creation. My issue now is I can't get them to animate when moving properly.

[obtuse wigeon]

I know Stardew Druid has wondering npcs, only in one area though, plus I don't actually know if they'tr true npcs or not

[lucid iron]

randomized npcs

thats usuaally want CC or MEEP is for

[obtuse wigeon]

WOOO!! the blinking is a very nice touch

[hot gale]

I have a C# system to make them wander without the need for a schedule, but I can't get their stitched sprites to animate properly like the farmer does

[gentle rose]

farmer renderer is famously cursed

[hot gale]

Yeah I ran into issues using the farmer pipeline so I replicated the sheets and renamed them which solved the issue of using the Farmer body but now I cant get it to animate haha

[lucid iron]

if you got enough "parts" like hair/shirt/pants/face you can build their textures via content patcher

[hot gale]

Oh? Will they work when moving?

[lucid iron]

thereafter spawn them as some flavor of anti social NPC

[hot gale]

My NPCs are going to be villagers in a city management mod im working on, ala Mine Colonies

[lucid iron]

they are completely ordinary npc aside from moving/not movingness, so if their animations are incorrect then check if you overlayed the texture wrong

nothing stops you from doing the same thing in C# ofc, since the suggestion is to build the randomized texture in content pipeline and then do whatever

do not attempt to use Farmer for this

[safe kraken]

nice

[hot gale]

I've been trying to simply replicate the process in which the Farmer functions as far as stitching the sheets and adding animation but have been running into a lot of issues

[lucid iron]

yes, because farmer is cursed

srsly an npc only needs 16 sprites for walk cycle

[hot gale]

My issue is I dont want to create NPCs myself, I just want to use the 'randomize' feature to create unique ones on the fly - which.. is kinda working aside from them sliding around lmao

[lucid iron]

well if you rather do it the hard way then have fun

my point is more you don't need npc data to make npc and really if you just need a visual thing then AnimatedSprite is sufficient

[hot gale]

That is more or less what I am trying to do, my worry is using CP to create them wont allow me to utilize them fully with my C# mod, though I may be wrong

The C# creates them and will manage them

[lucid iron]

you can do the same thing (build semi randomized textures) in C#, content patcher is just a C# mod

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Content

besides actually editing the texture, you may also look at writing your own draw code for these guys

[hot gale]

Hmm that's interesting

[lucid iron]

Critter is a good base class to use, you have update + draw and do not need to deal with multiplayer

going back to "face/hair/shirt/pants" if you just draw these in order with same position

they get layered and you got a moving thing

[hot gale]

I see

I am going to explore that

oof that posted real ugly

They kinda just... slide lol they stitch together 'properly' though

[obtuse wigeon]

(how does your console have scan lines?)

[lucid iron]

farmer renderer do be like that

[hot gale]

In windows 11 you can skin the terminal

[lucid iron]

Farmer also just have more netsync'd thing that you likely do not need

[hot gale]

Thanks chu√e, I think you have saved me a very large headache

[obtuse wigeon]

omg what, time to customise the terminal

[lucid iron]

they act as a sort of mini save

[hot gale]

Can also be transparent

[lucid iron]

btw if you plan on just using AnimatedSprite for stuff

you gotta call the Animate* methods

in your update loop

game gives u the 4 directions plus a raw one if you need them to do a special animation

[hot gale]

Any chance there is an edited sheet out there that contains the bare minimum 'farmer' sprites with hair, clothes etc? 🥲

or can I just use the farmer_ sheets if they are renamed - I suspect not since they include a ton of extra sprites

[lucid iron]

unlikely your needs are pretty specific

[hot gale]

bah

I suppose making them isnt hard just time consuming

[lucid iron]

and also AnimatedSprite wants you to arrange them like NPCs (down, right, up, left)

once u get a template going it shouldnt be that bad

[hot gale]

So I would just need the top bit of like Alex

[lucid iron]

yea

[hot gale]

The Farmer body is armless, thats so convenient /s 😭

[lucid iron]

It's cus farmer got all these funny tool use anims

For layering imagine if alex hair is on its own spritesheet that's shaped the same

[hot gale]

Right

Im just trying to understand the layout of the farmer sheet so I know what I need

NPCs are Static + 3 frames of anim

Doesnt seem to be the case for Farmer haha

[obtuse wigeon]

The fact the farmer has teeth is midly unsettling, then legs on all of the sprites are so weird too!

[hot gale]

Right lmao

[lucid iron]

The hair and shirt are just 4 sprites one per direction

[calm nebula]

Right facing is left facing but inverted

[lucid iron]

So u can reuse those just by adjusting them up and down slightly

[hot gale]

Is that all the frames though?

[calm nebula]

And I think the third frame can be a copy of the 1st

[lucid iron]

Might not even need to make your own texture if u just handle it on the code with offset

[calm nebula]

If they are just walking sure

[hot gale]

The farmer seems to move much more smooth than that, I guess we sprint huh

[calm nebula]

You have a bunch of running and I think down facing tool usage in there

[hot gale]

Ahh yes I see, the matching arms for the 3 total frames just to the right

Thanks everyone

[tropic thorn]

I use this guide https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Farmer_sprite to help myself understand how farmer animation works

It is quite complicated

[hot gale]

Thanks!

[hot gale]

Cursed indeed

Modified Pelican Town im using for my town management mod

Its more or less a placeholder, just needed a large area to test with

[obtuse wigeon]

Will the buildings have set locations to be placed or can they be placed anywhere? similarly to how you build shed on the farm?

[hot gale]

Yeah mayor lewis is the point of contact to construct buildings in the town, similar to how robin functions for the farm and island etc

You will be able to place fabricated buildings like the town hall, residences, production buildings, farms, etc. Player will also be able to place decoration and farm in the town as well

I have Lewis able to produce the fabricated town hall, which spawns your initial villagers atm

[obtuse wigeon]

oh I am so HYPED for a this mod, I love city managment/building games

[hot gale]

Think mine colonies but in stardew, if you're familiar

[obtuse wigeon]

I'm very familliar, love mine colonies!

[hot gale]

Me too :D

Im like 2500 lines of code in already for the C# portion, chugging along :D

I have a lot of the systems designed and laid out, my biggest hurdle so far has been making the villagers LOOK how I want them to

I originally thought about just using Junimos, but thought I could go bigger than that :p

Biting me in the ass rn haha

Somehow drawing the villagers as if they were farmers has been the hardest part 🤣

[obtuse wigeon]

omg junimos as an optional setting would be so cute, but from your experience I can safely say I think I will always avoid making actual farmer like sprites that use randomisation

[hot gale]

haha it has not been fun

Been on this for days tbh

[obtuse wigeon]

you're doing well so far that's for sure

[lucid iron]

You can expose the partial layers to content mods which would let people add more

[hot gale]

What do you mean

[lucid iron]

You know how a number of framework mods are like

[hot gale]

Ohh, yeah I plan on exposing as much as I can so people can build on it as well

[lucid iron]

"go edit someperson.Modd/Data which will do stuff"

[lucid iron]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Making_Framework_Mods

[hot gale]

Added mouseover on them since they are all going to be random, will help with tracking them down lmao

Part of me wants to nail this down before I proceed, another part of me wants to just move on and keep working on the backend systems etc and fixing this later ;p

Stitched and complete base farmer walking anims

Frames go 1/2/1/3 so I replicated and added the extra frame myself so its just 1/2/3/4

[hot gale]

or I guess 0/1/2/3

Oh, I bet that will heavily conflict with adding the hair/clothes to it... hmm

[devout otter]

About local tokens. Can we do something like this? { "Action": "Include", "FromFile": "patches/yesaha.json", "LocalTokens": { "L@Portrait": "PrettyMan", "L@Sprite": "PrettyMan" } }, { "Action": "Include", "FromFile": "patches/yesaha.json", "LocalTokens": { "L@Portrait": "GlowingMan", } }, What happens if an action within has both tokens?

[velvet narwhal]

wdym both tokens

(also, it would scream at you for missing any localtokens in the 2nd edit, but order of operations would make the GlowingMan the one that top decks)

[devout otter]

Oh, so the amount of LocalTokens must be exactly the same in each include?

[velvet narwhal]

if you're using the same include, yep

it'll say something like "Action: Include #2 is missing LocalToken: L@Sprite"

[devout otter]

Aa that's what I need to know. Thanks!

[uncut viper]

(what do you mean the one that top decks)

[velvet narwhal]

uhh

i don't know what the template looks like, but if you're editing the same exact entry, the latest(?) bottom(?) one will be the one that wins out

[uncut viper]

thats always the case with any kind of patch though not unique to localtokens

(i just thought it important to clarify that to make sure its not confused that GlowingMan would necessarily "top deck")

(and to stress that they are entirely separate patches and overwriting is not guaranteed)

[velvet narwhal]

i have very defined and dedicated templates so i don't have overriding entries anymore

the headache i had with my chaos trigger actions... pain...

[uncut viper]

also was it you or chu that seems to have incepted people into thinking localtokens have to start with L@ /lh

[velvet narwhal]

chue

mine are just all caps

true chaos incarnate is making them snake case

[lucid iron]

it's me

[obtuse wigeon]

nahh SCREAMING_SNAKE_CASE is chaos incarnate

[lucid iron]

but every single time im like

"the L@ is just a naming scheme not a requirement"

[uncut viper]

why the @

[lucid iron]

re: this, you can sorta handle it by checking if token is empty

[lucid iron]

vibes

[obtuse wigeon]

looks like a coin/token is what I would've thought

[uncut viper]

it makes me think of cartography

[lucid iron]

"HasValue:{{L@NPC2}}": true

this would check if the token actually has value n not apply patch if so

[obtuse wigeon]

I fear I'm entirely clueless as to why it reminds you of cartography? that's maps and direction related things right?

[lucid iron]

but u would still need "L@NPC2": ""

[uncut viper]

L@ = lat = latitude

[obtuse wigeon]

oh I do like that, I may end up starting to use it

[uncut viper]

can also do {{Merge: {{L@NPC2}}, FallbackValue |valueAt=0}}

[devout otter]

I don't think so. I just think it's a good idea because I'm easily confused between tokens.

Want to start making distinctions between my Dynamic Tokens and Config Tokens too.

[velvet narwhal]

ig that's fair

[lucid iron]

you can always start a new convention

[velvet narwhal]

...my configs have spaces in them so i know they're configs

[lucid iron]

romance of the 3 kingdoms

[uncut viper]

just please do not put commas in your token names ever or i will be very cross

[rancid sapphire]

I'm on switch is there any mods for switch?

[calm nebula]

no

effectively

Button I'm putting emoji in my token names

[uncut viper]

emoji are fine, just not commas

[obtuse wigeon]

no commas? what about different encoding? gunna make all tokens in ISO 8859 and the rest in UTF <some number>

[uncut viper]

my "dont use commas in token names" t-shirt has people asking a lot of questions already answered by my shirt

[lucid iron]

{{L：Token}}

[uncut viper]

dont think CP would even let you do that

[lucid iron]

it let me cus its a fullwidth char

[uncut viper]

tthen feel free, as its not a comma

[lucid iron]

{{L，Token}}

[obtuse wigeon]

talking about fullwidth characters, apparently zero width characters are supported in CP

[lucid iron]

its just newtonsoft right

[obtuse wigeon]

I believe so

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #6565 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1406436416787054783)

[undone fable]

gang what am i missing here i've been going at it for 35 minutes 😭

[vital lotus]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[vital lotus]

Are you sure static is a valid type? That aside, hopefully someone could help point the error. I'm not familiar with fashion sense.

[undone fable]

https://smapi.io/json/none/fb6b8c3342624be295e30adccdd0edc1

https://smapi.io/json/none/ef06862d5e7e4749a156d74a02c3023e

static's the name for the condition group

unless im doing it wrong 😭 then whoops

[uncut viper]

that is not the name of a condition group. it should be one of the condition types, which static is not

you may be confusing it with GroupName?

[undone fable]

but on the doc it mentions being able to create condition groups, i've made one under the name static

[uncut viper]

as listed in the docs i linked, Name is for a specific logical condition. GroupName is used for checking against a condition group

[undone fable]

OOH wait wait now i get it thank you so much 😭

i was confusing it with the groupname!

[oblique meadow]

Can someone possibly help me translate this error. It happens when I sleep to upgrade from farmhouse 1 to 2 but only while married. When not married it works fine

---------------
IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array.
   at xTile.Tiles.TileArray.set_Item(Int32 x, Int32 y, Tile value) in D:\GitlabRunner\builds\Gq5qA5P4\0\ConcernedApe\stardewvalley\Farmer\xTileSource\xTile\Tiles\TileArray.cs:line 70
   at StardewValley.GameLocation.setMapTile_PatchedBy<mushymato.MMAP>(GameLocation this, Int32 tileX, Int32 tileY, Int32 index, String layer, String tileSheetId, String action, Boolean copyProperties)
   at StardewValley.Locations.FarmHouse._ApplyRenovations_PatchedBy<CF.FarmhouseFixes>(FarmHouse this)
   at StardewValley.Locations.FarmHouse.updateFarmLayout()
   at StardewValley.Locations.FarmHouse.MakeMapModifications(Boolean force)
   at StardewValley.GameLocation.resetForPlayerEntry()
   at StardewValley.Game1._newDayAfterFade()+MoveNext()
   at StardewValley.Game1.<>c.<newDayAfterFade>b__782_2()
   at System.Threading.Tasks.Task.InnerInvoke()
   at System.Threading.Tasks.Task.<>c.<.cctor>b__272_0(Object obj)
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.RunInternal(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
--- End of stack trace from previous location ---
   at System.Threading.ExecutionContext.RunInternal(ExecutionContext executionContext, ContextCallback callback, Object state)
   at System.Threading.Tasks.Task.ExecuteWithThreadLocal(Task& currentTaskSlot, Thread threadPoolThread)
---------------```

I am not 100% sure what it's mad at me about...

[royal stump]

one of the farmhouse rooms is trying to edit a tile that isn't within the farmhouse map, I guess

I'm not really familiar with how spouse rooms/upgrades/etc interact, though

[lucid iron]

are you married

[oblique meadow]

in game. Yes

[lucid iron]

yea it tried to set tile 49 19 and couldnt so you died

marriage is tough times

[uncut viper]

tbf you're not supposed to be married before farmhouse 2

[lucid iron]

theres a farmhouse 1 marriage map tho

[oblique meadow]

You can be married in farmhouse 1. Just thought no kids without farmhouse 2

[lucid iron]

but yea husky no fix for this rn just make your map at least 49 19 big

[uncut viper]

i think we need a clearer definition of what we all mean by "farmhouse 1" then

[lucid iron]

50x20

[uncut viper]

do we consider the starter to be farmhouse 0 bc i was assuming the starter was 1

[lucid iron]

i mean that Maps/FarmHouse1_marriage is a farmhouse map that exists

surely u can reach this right

[oblique meadow]

So the map naming scheme for the farmhouses is Farmhouse, Farmhouse1, Farmhouse2. So I was working based on that.

[uncut viper]

unmodded the game will not let you marry without upgrading your house once

[lucid mulch]

Farmhouse, Farmhouse1, Farmhouse2

[uncut viper]

if we're working off that assumption then thats fine you can ignore me it just wasnt clear we were goin off map file names and not colloquial terms

[brave fable]

if only CA had used the much more natural and understandable naming scheme of Farmhouse, Farmhouse (Copy), and Farmhouse (Copy 1)

[lucid mulch]

implicit 0

[oblique meadow]

Nope. I completely understood what you were saying 🙂

[lucid mulch]

Farmhouse final rev2

[oblique meadow]

Farmhouse 2: Even Farmhousier

[uncut viper]

(relatedly, i know the game also explodes if you do debug marry or marry via some other means without upgrading once bc it cant find the map file with the _marriage suffix. if you added one though, would it just work fine?)

[vernal crest]

I like the idea of differentiating between token types too but I found the L@ made the tokens difficult to read so I'm just going with LT_ as a local token prefix, with DT and CT for dynamic and config.

[oblique meadow]

This worked. Thanks. Just a silly fix for a farmhouse that at its biggest is only 19 tiles wide

[uncut viper]

my LocalTokens, my Dawntrail, and my Conversation Topics

[lucid mulch]

hmmm, I wonder if I ever get around to progressing on the LSP side of the fence I could have them coloured differently

[vernal crest]

What's dawntrail?

[uncut viper]

FFXIV's latest expansion

FFXIV being Final Fantasy XIV, the MMO

[vernal crest]

I'll risk the confusion with conversation topics because they're all prefixed with my mod id

Ah I see. I've heard of that

[lucid iron]

What about LocTok

And ConTok

DynTok

No relation to popular chinese social media platform btw

[brave fable]

if Lokens is wrong i don't want to be right

[lucid iron]

what r the other two then

[brave fable]

Dokens and Copics, naturally

[lucid iron]

there's a lot of implications of lewis not existing as an entity, for example he runs all the festivals

making a regular npc invisible forever is simple but you gotta do something about those special cases

this doesn't even get into modded content that might add events involving him

[uncut viper]

also, that kind of mod is not allowed to be discussed on this server

[lucid iron]

[game] Changing net field parent for '' collection from '' to ''.

does this mean anything

[obtuse wigeon]

Are those double quotes or single?

[brave fable]

those would be single

[obtuse wigeon]

Changing the parent of a null child object from a null parent to another/or the same null parent?

[lucid iron]

its some wacky netcode thing i think

[obtuse wigeon]

is this a recent report for a mod? or something that you've had? it was mentioned on reddit and the forums before with no solution or inkling of a cause, both relating to multiplayer

[lucid iron]

no i just saw it in dev

i have seen it before but as you can see it's very cryptic

[obtuse wigeon]

Do love a good mystery, only when I have the tools to solve the mystery however, unfortunatly the post on reddit is like 8 months old so the log uploaded is gone, but the from field and the to field are identical (albeit Item: bush), and it happens on when the players sleep, so I'm thinking something on day update relating to multiplayer causes it

[lucid iron]

well yes i know this already more or less

[obtuse wigeon]

I guessed bahah, that's like entirely where my knowledge gets too

[lucid mulch]

should have a stack trace in trace logs of where it happened if I'm reading the code right

the netfield, target parent and source parent all not having a name set is... interesting

[lucid iron]

i figured out why, it's cus i put my self in a situation where i have duplicate friendship entries

[zenith sapphire]

Guys I'm making a mod where it adds fish to modded places like Ridgeside etcs. But in the manifest which dependency i should put for Ridgeside for things like fishes etc? cause i put Rafseazz.RidgesideVillage as unique id but it doesnt seems to work

[vernal crest]

Why are you putting it as a dependency at all?

[zenith sapphire]

Because i think for the way its structured the mod, since i'm not good at modding but i wanted to add some fishing for personal purpose (my wife love to go fishing in stardew) i tried to copy and edit a mod (not you again mod) and that mod works putting dependency if you are putting a fish in a map from that mod

[vernal crest]

You shouldn't need a dependency, especially if it's just a personal mod.

[zenith sapphire]

All i know is that if i dont put the dependencies it doesnt work..

[vernal crest]

But if you need to make sure your mod is editing after RSV, you'd need Rafseazz.RSVCP

[devout otter]

Normally you'd do it for the Content Patcher part of the mod, which is Rafseazz.RSVCP.

Though presumably you can just do a "Priority": "Late", on your patch, depending on how you are doing it.

[vernal crest]

You can just add "Priority" - yeah, what Dolphin said lol

[zenith sapphire]

Sorry , what you mean? because I'm new on this

[devout otter]

On the place when you are editing the fish data, the "Action": "EditData", stuff.

just insert this line "Priority": "Late",.

[zenith sapphire]

Oh, the console gave me this: [Content Patcher] Ignored Not You Again: using Priority requires Format version 2.0.0 or later

I suppose the mod i'm editing its outdated

[devout otter]

Just bump up the format number at the beginning of your content.json.

[vernal crest]

(Make it 2.7.0 because that's the latest.)

[zenith sapphire]

Okay to explain the error, basically it gave me " Cant apply patch for location "Custom_Ridgeside_RSVSewers'""

Now , it's telling me it cant apply the patch for all the modded locations previously i added correclty

[vernal crest]

!json Can you please share your json?

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[vernal crest]

!log And also please upload the log and send us a link so we can see the whole context for the error

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[junior mist]

hey y'all venturing into mod making and not sure i've properly done the setup to get started. in the wiki instructions there's a section that mentions referencing a .dll file, but i'm not sure where i'm supposed to get that from?

[vernal crest]

Are you intentionally starting with C#? You can achieve many things without it.

[zenith sapphire]

This is my log (i have alot of mods so i probably have a bunch of errors of others that i will watch with more time but for now i'm interested on fix this problem)
https://smapi.io/log/3b0e0d247d6f430aa83e583c5b6200e1?Levels=warn~critical

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26100.0, with 60 C# mods and 177 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[stark spindle]

hey does anybody know if there an equivalent to the DigitEntryMenu that is accessible?

[zenith sapphire]

https://smapi.io/json/none/24bc80fc95424f18ae3cb08025601991

[zenith sapphire]

This is my Json, maybe its messed up because there are ALOT of fish additions

[gentle rose]

wdym by accessible? like public? because I think most of us just get private methods by reflection most of the time

[stark spindle]

yeah i guess i can do the reflection way

[junior mist]

lol yeah, i've been learning it for a bit now and wanted to do something to contextualize what i've learned so far.

[stark spindle]

thanks 🙂

[vernal crest]

Okay, in that case, where are you seeing instructions to reference a dll?

If it's in the section about decompiling the game code and it's Stardew Valley.dll that it's telling you to open, that's just in your Stardew Valley folder.

[junior mist]

bottom of the page here; https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:IDE_reference#Add_a_reference_to_another_DLL

[devout otter]

      "Target": "Data/Locations",``` Try putting the late priority on here, too.

[vernal crest]

Why are you trying to do that? To my understanding, you shouldn't be doing that in most instances and certainly not just to get an initial "hello world" type mod working.

(That's meant to be in the tone of "I'm curious about whether you've read instructions pointing you to that that task" not an accusatory tone.)

[junior mist]

maybe i confused myself, but it seemed like having the dll file as well as manifest.json were both required as a setup to get started?

[vernal crest]

You have confused yourself, yeah. The .dll you're thinking of is the one that your IDE will create when you compile your mod. The link you're looking at is about how to reference the .dll of someone else's mod (or, I guess, another one of your own) if you need to do that.

[zenith sapphire]

Tried to do so but nothing happened, just got the error for every addition i made instead of just a bunch

[vernal crest]

Follow the instructions on this page: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started and only follow the stuff on the IDE reference page when the get started guide links to it (and only for the specific section the get started guide is linking to).

[vernal crest]

Can you please put patch export Data/Locations into your SMAPI console when you're loaded into a save and then upload the file it exports into the json website and share the link with us?

[zenith sapphire]

Sure

[junior mist]

cool cool, thank you for your responses. much appreciated

[teal crest]

Can I ask a question? It was cut out "(no " and I don't understand why that kind of things happen. Anyone know?

[finite ginkgo]

(No translation: whatever) means an i18n token couldn’t find the provided key in your i18n files

[zenith sapphire]

Ok this is my export:

[vernal crest]

Is this your own mod or one you're editing? If it is, it means your i18n key is wrong (or missing). If it's not and you're just playing, this is the wrong channel and you want #1272025932932055121 instead.

[teal crest]

yes that is normal display. but this one lacks "(no"

[finite ginkgo]

Not sure why it’s missing, possibly in a previous text box alone, or cut by the dialogue parser for some reason

[vernal crest]

Your log has warnings that you're trying to edit locations like Custom_HM_MineralTown but there's no mention of such a location in your json or in your exported Data/Locations asset. Are you sure you're editing the right file and/or sending us the right file?

It could also be related to the fact that the vanilla wedding lines are bugged so anything editing them is also bugged.

[teal crest]

i just tested to check them cause those one don't show correct message. so erased key from i18n file

[zenith sapphire]

Yea for the Custom HM Mineraltown i fixed it , putting the correct location for the updated verison of the mod but for the others seems something its off.. BUT i checked and i dont think its a problem of uniqueID, but some specific maps seems simply doesnt work with this mod/system

[vernal crest]

Well, there were quite a few that I checked where that was the case. So if you've fixed those errors and are down now only to ones where you're sure the location name is correct, you'll need to send through your updated json and updated log.

Because it's extremely unlikely that it's going to just not work for some locations when it does for others because the locations have to be done the same way in order for them to exist in the game.

[zenith sapphire]

Yea i know , the error you saw in the previous log :
[Content Patcher] Can't apply data patch "Not You Again > EditData Data/Locations > text operation #94" to Data/Locations: record 'Custom_Ridgeside_RSVSewers' has no value, so field '7' can't be modified using text operations.

its the weird one, bacause i warped on that map , using debug warp Custom_Ridgeside_RSVSewers

And it worked smoothly and i even used the comand "whereami" and i got : Custom_Ridgeside_RSVSewers

So i dont understand why the mod cant find that location

[vernal crest]

Yes that one does exist. You didn't provide a log after you added "Priority": "Late" to your Data/Locations patch though, so please do that. And also share the latest copy of the json.

[zenith sapphire]

Ok sorry , let me do it real quick

[vernal crest]

I'm also curious, does the mod "Not You Again" work normally? As in does the version you haven't edited work?

Hm. I just downloaded it and it looks totally different to what you have.

[zenith sapphire]

Because i have the previous version , for 1.5 i suppose

I'm afraid to upgrade my mod too because i'm afraid i have to do alot of work , but maybe i'm wrong

[vernal crest]

Are you playing with 1.5?

[zenith sapphire]

No I'm playing in 1.6 , lastest version 1.6.15

The mod works, just the fish arent being added in their spawn points but the fish are being added as items

[vernal crest]

Okay, editing an old mod is not an ideal way of dipping your toes into modmaking I'm afraid. I'm trying to find the older version of tia's one to see if that would work because the TextOperations breadcrumb paths in your json are looking very strange.

[zenith sapphire]

You can get it througth the CJB Item spawner but you cant actually fish them (the most important thing i need xD)

[zenith sapphire]

Do you think i should just download the newer version of NotYouAgain mod and try to convert mine to this?

[vernal crest]

Yeah I think...and I need to just confirm this by checking the wiki, but I think that the way of adding fish to locations pre-1.6 was totally different to what it is now and that what you're trying won't work.

[zenith sapphire]

Because the only thing i did was adding fishes copying some strings of the mod

[zenith sapphire]

Oh maybe that's why

[vernal crest]

Yup ok confirmed, location data was totally different before 1.6 so what you're doing doesn't work at all.

Yes, you're going to have to download the 1.6 version of Not You Again and edit that.

It's going to be a lot of work because it's completely different now and doesn't use Json Assets (which is obsolete in 1.6 and shouldn't be used).

When you start on the 1.6 version, I recommend editing the manifest so that it's called something of your own choosing so when people help you with it they can clearly see it's your edit rather than Tia's original work (which will help avoid confusion).

[zenith sapphire]

Oh i see... dang i suppose it will take ages since all the additions T_T

[vernal crest]

I'm sorry, this does suck for you

At least for future you can now understand that it's important to always use mods that are up to date for the current game version to edit/use as an example of your own.

[zenith sapphire]

Yea i learned the lesson ! Anyway i hope this new way to do things and getting rid of the JA will improve performance and be more lightweight

[brave fable]

it's not really more performant, but it's more understandable and extendable, which are big positives

[zenith sapphire]

Sorry if i disturbt you but , in the new version, how the new fishes sprites are? because i dont see them anywhere

With the JA you had a folder where put the sprites of the fishes , but without it , where I'm supposed to put the fish sprite?

[vernal crest]

They're in the assets folder

(And you're not disturbing me, I'm happy to answer questions )

[drowsy pewter]

I really love looking at all the art CA made for the movies. Theyre so creative and uniquely him, but you can tell he had fun making them look completely differemt

[fading walrus]

[drowsy pewter]

I cant wait to see haunted chocolatier hahaha

[lucid mulch]

I'm scared to eventually see the code of HC and find all of the mistakes from a code perspective from stardew repeated

[zenith sapphire]

I put the sprite on the assets folder, and used its name on this: "Texture": "Mods\tiakall.seabass\NameOfTheTexture",

The fish item exist but with a stop Icon xD

[vernal crest]

Did you add the fish sprite name to the "add sprites" patch?

// adds sprites
        {
            "LogName": "Aquarium fish load",
            "Action": "Load",
            "Target": "Mods/tiakall.seabass/AquariumFish, Mods/tiakall.seabass/SeaBass, Mods/tiakall.seabass/DuskyGrouper, Mods/tiakall.seabass/PinkMaomao, Mods/tiakall.seabass/PotatoCod, Mods/tiakall.seabass/RedbandedPerch",
            "FromFile": "assets/{{TargetWithoutPath}}.png"
        },

[zenith sapphire]

Ohhh i tought that was just an aquarium function

[vernal crest]

No, that's for putting all of the images into the game. You have to do that before you can use them in a Texture field.

[zenith sapphire]

Oh now i understand , i was trying also to put the extreme long string in a better way so it can be readable :

[vernal crest]

You can just turn on word wrap

[zenith sapphire]

Oh in MVisualstudio?

[vernal crest]

Visual Studio is not a great choice for editing .json mods but yes you can turn on word wrap: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/visualstudio/ide/reference/how-to-manage-word-wrap-in-the-editor?view=vs-2022

[zenith sapphire]

Thanks! that's really usefull

[light venture]

hello, i am new to making mods however i have coding experience. I am trying to make a quick edit to an existing mod. How do I check the current location of the player in C#? Basically what I wanna try is skip what the mod is doing in the current function if the player is in the farm cellar, so something like if (Current_location == StardewValley.Locations.Cellar) return

but I can't manage to find a list of the reference variables names

[zenith sapphire]

I'm so close to understand the way to add them with the new version! But still even adding the image in the place you said i get a "stop sign" as image and getting this from SMAPI:
[Content Patcher] Can't apply load "Not You Again > Aquarium fish load (Mods/tiakall.seabass/Tarozzo)" to Mods/tiakall.seabass/Tarozzo: the FromFile file 'assets\Tarozzo.png' doesn't exist.
[game] Failed loading texture Mods\tiakall.seabass\Tarozzo for item (O)tiakall.bass.Tarozzo: asset doesn't exist.

[vernal crest]

It's telling you that you don't have a file called Tarozzo.png inside the folder called assets.

[zenith sapphire]

Yea! and that's weird because i have it! could be possible because my picture its a 1x1 sprite instead of 1x3 like others?

[vernal crest]

No, that wouldn't affect it and it should be just one sprite anyway. Can you show me what you wrote for the load patch, please?

[zenith sapphire]

I duplicated and edited the Redperch

[vernal crest]

No, the load patch. The "aquarium fish load" part

[vernal crest]

Ok, my only guess is that you don't have file extensions turned on so your file is actually called Tarrozzo.png.png. Can you check if file extensions are turned on? It should be in the Visualizza menu somewhere.

[brave fable]

shouldn't that be Tiakall.seabass.Tarozzo as the item ID¿ you should also ensure the Name exactly matches the entry ID.

[vernal crest]

(It should actually be something else entirely, as I did say you should rename the mod so people don't think it's actually Not You Again.)

[brave fable]

ah, ID assumed this was just editing the existing mod's assets

[zenith sapphire]

Yea i know i was just doing a test before doing as you said a complete rework it completely instead of just editing

[zenith sapphire]

I have file extension on

Just checked

[vernal crest]

It's adding new fish to Not You Again (and removing the original fish?) so basically using NYA as a base for a new mod.

[vernal crest]

Okay. Hm. I notice the folder you're editing is on your desktop rather than in a Mods folder. Have you accidentally put the fish image in the wrong folder?

[zenith sapphire]

Oh.. my god... its 3am here and i'm very dumb and tired

Luckily someone noticed it caue my eyes are too blind right now xD, thank you so much

[vernal crest]

Haha happens to us all

(Not me anymore because I only ever have one copy of a mod's folder, but it used to before I started doing that)

[zenith sapphire]

So tomorrow i will rework it entirely and make a version mine, i should edit the manifest and put instead of tiakall.seabass , another name right?

[brave fable]

a great bonus to using VS for making mods is you can keep your work folder separate from your mods folder and have it pack, deploy, and zip your mod to wherever it needs to go whenever you build

ideally you should change the ID first above all else

and replace all written mentions of the ID with the {{ModId}} token whenever possible

(in VS and other text editors you can use ctrl-shift-F to find and replace in all files)

[teal crest]

looks like I found why that problem happen, thanks. (not sure I should patch up in my mod though cause it's from default event code)

[latent cape]

Hello, I only just tried to try add SVE to make my mod compatible with it, but when I tried to view the SVE map in tiled, there's so many missing files and all of them are red (Still playable in game). I already downloaded all mod that's required for it. Anyone know how to figured this one out?

Like apparently all of the png files are missing, I have no clue on how SVE works

[vernal crest]

You need to put all the tilesheets in the same folder as the maps, including the vanilla tilesheets. Or use irocendar's tiled plugin to trick tiled into thinking the tilesheets are in the map folder

[hard fern]

stardew tilesheet unfudger

amazing name

[vernal crest]

I haven't even tested it myself yet but boy have I recommended it to a lot of people over the past two weeks

[hard fern]

i havent tested it either lol

[obtuse wigeon]

It's fantastic, I HIGHLY recommend it

[vernal crest]

I'm not convinced yet that it will be a better approach than my current symlink-from-master-folder

[latent cape]

I can't exactly figured this out(?) I already did the installation step, putting the tilesheetinator to tiled extension and it made the config file too. But i can't seem to fine the options for the other steps, did I like missed something because I never really do things wildly in Tiled

[vernal crest]

Although... Maybe I will use it for things like looking at SVE maps so I don't have to put their tilesheets into my maps folder

[vernal crest]

What happened when you pressed ctrl+shift+.?

[latent cape]

nothing

[obtuse wigeon]

If I could make symlinks work reliably on my windows system I'd use them, even explorer crashes regularaly when interacting with file paths, might need to reinstall

[vernal crest]

That's definitely weird. I've had no issues at all getting symlinks working on windows 10

[vernal crest]

Then you may have installed it incorrectly. Did you save the file exactly as tilesheetinator.js in the plugins folder? You may have to restart tiled and/or enable it in the plugins list after installing it too.

I'll go install it so I can see for myself what to do

[vernal crest]

(I just realised that we are two people who both have "please @ me" in our names who replied to one another with pings off lol)

[latent cape]

I did open the Edit > Plugins > Open and it leads me to the extension folder rather than Plugins? I did restart Tiled, but i didnt do other stuff

[obtuse wigeon]

(it happens so often )

[latent cape]

Does it have something to do with these

[obtuse wigeon]

Plugins are extensions, they're close enough to be interchangable

[latent cape]

thats what i also thought, but I had my doubts

[obtuse wigeon]

When you open the extensions folder you should see this if you put the tilesheetinator correctly

[vernal crest]

Do you have "Update available" visible in the bottom right of your screen?

[latent cape]

It did so, yeah

[latent cape]

oh wait

[gentle rose]

yes please update tiled before using the extension!

[obtuse wigeon]

when you click on the "Maps" tab, next to file and edit, etc, do you see the options "Fix stardew tilesheets" and other options with a green puzzle peice?

[latent cape]

Ah yeah, apparently my tile is 2 updates late

[gentle rose]

(hi. I'm kinda dizzy rn so idk how much support I can actually offer, but I do know this can happen if your tiled is outdated)

[latent cape]

oops

[gentle rose]

no worries, lmk how you find it!

[gray bear]

(hope you feel better soon iro 💙 )

[blissful panther]

Also, I don't believe the fix Stardew tilesheets function will do anything to fix SVE tilesheets? I'm not sure how you handle them with it!

[gentle rose]

are they all in one folder in the sve mod?

[blissful panther]

Not a clue!

[obtuse wigeon]

You just add them as mod tilesheets in the extension

[gentle rose]

you can add it as a tilesheet mod folder!

[vernal crest]

Just the SVE ones are yeah

[obtuse wigeon]

They are

[blissful panther]

Oh, then that should be good!

[vernal crest]

You need both the vanilla ones and the SVE ones, from different folders

Yup there we go, the options are present now I've updated

[gentle rose]

right now on my personal PC I have the DaisyNiko and Luminestra tilesheet mods set up which is nice, I already opened modded maps a couple times, did the shortcut, and later discovered they use daisyniko's tilesheets and they just got fixed together with the vanilla ones

10/10 never going back

[obtuse wigeon]

I didn't think of adding DN and Lum tilesheets to it, good idea

[latent cape]

So it did, Thanks Aba for pointing it out

[vernal crest]

Ooh that's magical

[gentle rose]

(wait until you try the tilesheet adder!)

[vernal crest]

I just added the vanilla maps folder, then added the SVE tilesheets folder using "Manage Stardew Tilesheet Mods" and then did "Fix Stardew Tilesheets". I thought from the setup of the tilesheets mod bit that I was going to have to add each of those individually.

[gentle rose]

no!

that's all you need to do

[obtuse wigeon]

I thought the same thing originally too

[gentle rose]

the multiple rows are for different mods

[vernal crest]

(What's the tilesheet adder for then?)

[blissful panther]

Oh yeah, while you're here (though don't you dare think about trying to fix it when you don't feel good ), I noticed it doesn't auto-fix the mine tilesheet in the farm cave map!

[vernal crest]

Is that to replace exporting and then importing a tsx?

[gentle rose]

thank you for letting me know though, I'll see if I can make a more intuitive UX in the future

[gentle rose]

it's to easily add a tilesheet from a mod or from vanilla! (without properties or animations yet)

[gentle rose]

hmm, it should I'll have a look in a bit

[obtuse wigeon]

Thats odd? it seems to work for me? hang on let me give it another try incase I remember wrong

[vernal crest]

Oh yeah I guess if you do it the normal way you'd either need to move it to the map folder or end up with tilesheet climbing

[gentle rose]

yup!

the next update (once I take a break from the portrait framework) will include some utilities to allow you to add them with the properties and animations

[vernal crest]

I feel extremely justified (by how easy this was and how well it worked) in having recommended this plugin every time I've talked to someone about map tilesheets since you shared it xD

[gray bear]

how portrait going

[gentle rose]

(and also possibly a "where is this tile used" feature because I already coded it lmao)

[gentle rose]

(like before, rasmodia portrait and mouth animations are dacar's, blinking is a janky edit I made)

[gray bear]

i like that blink

[latent cape]

Wait, can you help me out on where do I browse for the "Choose unpacked maps folder"?

[obtuse wigeon]

Just tested the farmcave map with the tilesheetinator and it works fine with adding the tilesheet

[vernal crest]

Have you unpacked your game files? If so, go to "Content (Unpacked)/Maps"

[latent cape]

Sorry for asking a lot

[gentle rose]

I'm glad you like it! if anything isn't intuitive (like the modded tilesheets), please let me know! (and obviously if anything doesn't work lmao)

[latent cape]

I did hold on

whoa

[obtuse wigeon]

(If youre talking about the SVE tilesheets its Mods\Stardew Valley Expanded\[CP] Stardew Valley Expanded\assets\Tilesheets, It may be slightly different for you))

[vernal crest]

I briefly pivot back to monsters because chu got me a new build to try but then I will return to maps

[latent cape]

Okay thats fixed, thank you so much

[vernal crest]

(But the SVE ones will be when you choose "Manage Stardew Tilesheet Mods")

[latent cape]

@gentle rose Thank you for making this blessed plugin

[vernal crest]

Pivot is over because the build was for a different version of Stardew

Hmm now do I edit this SVE map since I already have it open and then run the risk of forgetting and later thinking it's a real part of SVE...

(Answer: yes)

@gentle rose Is there any way to read what this says in full?

[vernal crest]

Right now I am imagining it says "leave blank if noot noot"

[gentle rose]

widen the dialogue box iirc? I've been meaning to fix that anyway

[obtuse wigeon]

Seems to work fine on mine, resixing the dialogue box doesnt change the prefix section however

[gentle rose]

anyway just ignore the prefix unless you know you'll need it

whoops! good catch, ty aba

[obtuse wigeon]

Does the prefix only load files with that specific prefix or does it just add a prefix to all the tilesheets?

[hard fern]

yahoo i tiledata'd the first floor of my map

[gentle rose]

wdym?

[obtuse wigeon]

like if you had the files AV_spring and summer if I include the prefix AV_ would it only load AV_spring or would it load both of the files as AV_AV_spring and AV_summer

[hard fern]

sighhh now i still have so much work

[gentle rose]

the latter

[obtuse wigeon]

Gotcha, thank you

[gray bear]

time to see if bea wrote the code for this right~

the answer may suprise you

i did not

[hard fern]

:(

[gray bear]

if i put an i18n value in a json without the i18n: part again for the 3rd time do i get something

[vernal crest]

Yes! An error 😌

[gray bear]

makes sense

was gonna complain about an asset being mean but realized i didn't add .png to it

im on fire today

[fading walrus]

[light venture]

any help please?

[vernal crest]

Hooray, a little orchard house! (Lumi's outdoor tilesheets building added to SVE's countryside_clairehouse map using iro's tilesheetinator)

[hard fern]

i didnt know trees grow in houses XD

[vernal crest]

I'm only a baby C# modder but I've done a check for player location before by checking the new location in the player warped event. https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Events

[light venture]

thank you! Game1.currentLocation seems to be what I'm looking for

[gentle rose]

(the fact that the name stuck is a great reminder to me not to throw a temp name on things without thinking, because it will end up being the permanent name )

[humble timber]

LMAOOO

[brave fable]

incidentally if you want to compare types, you can use the is keyword, I.e. Game1.currentLocation is Cellar or Game1.currentLocation is not FarmHouse or Farm, otherwise you can compare by name with Game1.currentLocation.NameOrUniqueName == "Cellar"

[humble timber]

this is why my expansion doesnt have even a temporary name yet. i know. i know whatever i pick will stick

[brave fable]

unique name here accounting for unique building interior guids appended to the usual location name for instanced locations

[gentle rose]

unfortunately, code stuff tends to require a name for the code files/solution (I'm pretty happy with the tentative current name for the portrait framework, but I'm not telling until I settle on it for sure lmao)

[humble timber]

LOL fair enough

[hard fern]

if it's any consolation i picked a name for my expansion and then changed it

so it doesnt always stick

[brave fable]

it's not. im inconsolable

[hard fern]

:(

ive been having fun writing a map string for every trash can i put in the house

making the farmer peek into the trash only to be disappointed that there's nothing exciting in it

[brave fable]

ah, the classic pokemon experience

[humble timber]

real

[hard fern]

"Hey, this trash can isn't empty! ...There's nothing interesting in here though. What a shame.",

[lucid iron]

Evil

Put in one real trashcan

[brave fable]

by real do you mean has nothing but trash inside

[lucid iron]

Yeah

[gray bear]

garbag

[hard fern]

"This has to be the most empty trash can in the whole house. There's not even a speck of dust.",

another one....

[fading walrus]

"There's a spider living at the bottom of this trashcan. Better leave their home be, they'll eat the fruit flies.",

I couldn't resist

[hallow prism]

trash can't... 🙁

[calm nebula]

Smh

Class1.cs

[gentle rose]

and the solution name?

[calm nebula]

Solution1

[lucid mulch]

a good testbed to have code that interacts with Game1

[hard fern]

why is the map fixer mad at me :(

there's another one too :( and i have no clue why

[lucid iron]

Maybe tell button about it

[calm nebula]

@uncut viper

[hard fern]

the thing that gets me is that it's only like, 3 maps that have this problem 🤔 two of them have the second red error and there's only one with the first one

and i know for a fact i just made copies of them and edited them

the map loads in just fine though. but im a little dumb and put a buildings tile in front of where i need to be to click on the tile to get in the house.

hooray! my map strings load in!

why does this one display weird though

compared to the other strings that are just one line, they dont have this weird gap at the bottom

[brave fable]

Difficult-looking law books stand in a formidable row. They mock me.

[hard fern]

ohh my kitchen is dark. guess who forgot to put lighting in it

[gray bear]

ur doing le thing

gap is because of length i'd imagine

no room for x

[hard fern]

a

i see

i also have stole the sound from elliott's piano

hm. well.