making-mods-general

[obtuse wigeon]

I tried using the tilesheet numerical ID but that also didn't work

Okay it seems removing the "SetTilesheet" line makes it work with the correct tile, but I'm not entirely sure how it know which tilesheet to use

[rotund saffron]

Anyone know if there is a way to move the position of the door and roller doors on the coop/barn in the texture and still have them function and animate properly. Like another mod that can move them or something, or some code to change their location?

[lucid iron]

You can move them but you gotta think about why

[gentle rose]

it's part of the building data model iirc

and I don't think it matters for the interior

but also what chu said

[rotund saffron]

Nah not the interior the exterior

[lucid iron]

Yes that's what we r talking about, but doing it in vanilla can lead to incompatibility

[obtuse wigeon]

Why is the SVE_Alec_Compat_on.tmx file being loaded? I don't have the mod added anymore so it shouldn't be loaded right?

{
    "Action": "EditMap",
    "Target": "Maps/Forest",
    "LogName": "Paved Valley: Forest SVE Alec off",
    "FromFile": "Maps/Forest/SVE_Alec_Compat_off.tmx",
    "PatchMode": "Overlay",
    "When": {
        "HasMod": "FlashShifter.StardewValleyExpandedCP",
        "HasMod |contains=SoftPandaBoi.CPAlecRevisited": false,
    }
},

//SVE Alec Compat
{
    "Action": "EditMap",
    "Target": "Maps/Forest",
    "LogName": "Paved Valley: Forest SVE Alec",
    "FromFile": "Maps/Forest/SVE_Alec_Compat_on.tmx",
    "PatchMode": "Overlay",
    "When": {
        "HasMod": "FlashShifter.StardewValleyExpandedCP, SoftPandaBoi.CPAlecRevisited"
    }
},

[whole raptor]

Hm? Looks like you have two of the same patches, one loaded when SVE is installed but the other mod isn't and the second one loads when either of those 2 mods are installed

If it's in a single HasMod it's OR not AND

[obtuse wigeon]

Ahh it's an OR gotcha field gotcha, I do get a warning that theres a duplicate object key when I include 2 "HasMod" fields, is that safe to ignore? or is there a better option for that?

[whole raptor]

You can use "HasMod |contains= <modID>": true

That way there won't be an error, but it'd work anyway probably

[obtuse wigeon]

Ohh okay I shall swap that to use a bool instead

and now it works great! thank you for the help

[lucid iron]

@whole raptor i finally realized what you meant by leaf debris

You can add these now if u want

https://github.com/Mushymato/MiscMapActionsProperties/blob/main/docs/map-properties.md#mushymatommap_woodsdebris-t--debriskind-gsq

[whole raptor]

Ooh nice

No clue if I'll actually use it, but good to know for the future hah

[lucid iron]

Honestly there should probably be a more unified system to add random draw effects
-# (wren gib EMU pls)

[obtuse wigeon]

is there a mod that let's me view the paths layer ingame? I thought Data Layers mightve had something like that but it doesn't

[rancid vortex]

Does anyone know how to edit fish spawn rates?

[brittle pasture]

outside of a couple hardcoded locations (Mines) they're in Data/Locations

[rancid vortex]

thanks!

[fast plaza]

hey everyone, I'm working on a mod using SMAPI 4.3.2 right now and I found a bug that seems to persist even when I remove my mod from the mods folder, so I'm wondering if its an issue with SMAPI 4.3.2 in general? Everytime I host a new game and go to the museum it's always almost filled with donations.

[latent mauve]

Are you running the game on a minimal mod pack? No other mods other than dependencies that your mod needs?

[fast plaza]

It only seems to happen when I create a new game from the host menu, even without having any connections, and doesn't happen if I just make a new game. I only have SMAPI 4.3.2 and save backup installed, is this a known issue? am I an idiot and missing some menu option? if not, can anyone reproduce this

[tiny zealot]

sounds like the state corruption bug from a while back

[fast plaza]

huh, is that a SMAPI thing or just normal stardew?

[calm nebula]

Known game issue

[latent mauve]

To clarify, vanilla game issue and not SMAPI, atra?

[calm nebula]

Yeah

[tiny zealot]

(backsearching) the problem is likely to be a save in your save folder that is missing its SaveGameInfo (or the file is malformed), and attempting to parse that file but failing causes the new game state to be corrupted

[fast plaza]

oh yeah it happens when I launch the vanilla game too. ok, well I'll try that and hopefully that'll fix it up! thanks Y'all!

[dusty scarab]

Hey, I've added the mail flag with triggeraction as a CP component, is there a neater way to do so or is this the standard?

[obtuse wigeon]

the unofficial update for rtf seems to be massivlely offset int he menu, tried version for 1.6.10 and 1.6.8, is there a fix for this as it's entirely unusable

[blissful panther]

That's a strange thing to break like that...

[tiny zealot]

setting mail flags via trigger action is the neat way. we had some janky stuff back in 1.5 and earlier /lh

[obtuse wigeon]

It's kinda useable when i open it when the game is minimized, then i make it max size, the background is still in the same place but the check boxes and text is in the right place, however the text is very dark and alsomost invisible

[lucid iron]

You can call trigger actions from C# too

[blissful panther]

Want to try a wild experiment?

[obtuse wigeon]

(Forgot to attach a screenshot)

[obtuse wigeon]

Always!

[dusty scarab]

yeah, but since it's for map editing I thought I might as well have everything handled as the same json

[lucid iron]

But usually u just EditData in Data/TriggerActions and let game deal with it

This is indeed the "neat" way to do it as of 1.6

Don't think about the part where mails are flags

[dusty scarab]

was it always like this?

[lucid iron]

It was worse

[blissful panther]

https://github.com/AlanDavison/StardewValleyMods/actions/runs/16755883146/artifacts/3693026475

Just built the completely new replacement I made when 1.6 was in alpha against the latest version of Stardew. Completely untested on the latest version though, and no idea if any part of it will work.

But worth a shot? Should be self-explanatory. I believe F5 was the hotkey to bring up the UI.

Though keep in mind that this is a zip in a zip because of how GitHub's artifact upload works.

[lucid iron]

Used to be blank events

[dusty scarab]

hey as long as the player can't see it no harm is done

[lucid iron]

And that actually caused weird pauses in game

[dusty scarab]

that sounds way worse.

[obtuse wigeon]

Just testing it now, ill let you know the results

[blissful panther]

My money's on something being broken, honestly. But that it builds is at least something!

[obtuse wigeon]

well it seems to work! clearing, resetting and generating does, the button to close the menu doesn't but esc works to close it

(Love the windows xp/98 style interface, custom made or default menu without customisation?)

[blissful panther]

That was all manually cobbled together, yeah. I thought it was a fun idea.

And I'm amazed it still works. The core of the code hasn't been touched since 2023.

[obtuse wigeon]

Congrats on making a very robust system (at least in basic use case)

Next question, why is this generating a medium and large bush and not a 2 large ones?

(Added your tfr mod to my new list of alternatives needed bc somethings hate my pc)

[deep cypress]

On a custom farm map, if I add a palm tree via the maps layer, if the player cuts it down, will it ever eregrow, or will they just be toast?

[blissful panther]

Wiki seems to suggest they should regrow?

I imagine when accompanied with the SpawnTree tile property.

[fast plaza]

whew, gotta say, hopping in here and seeing everyones cool stuff is intimidating as helll. I'm working on my first semi-big mod over here and everyone elses stuff looks so cool!

[round timber]

dont be intimidated!! we dont bite and would be happy to help if you ever run into issues during your process

[fast plaza]

well thats good to hear! thanks!

[obtuse wigeon]

I was the same coming in here too, but everyone is so helpful and by far the best community I've been in, it's so welcoming

[torpid sparrow]

i bite but for different reasons

[fast plaza]

reasonable reasonable

scared about publishing mods too. I think the whole thing where certain developers, who may deserve it, get harassed over terrible code (peeps like yandev) has given me an irrational fear that someone will find my mod and be like "dude this guy sucks" but I guess thats the kinda thing you have to prepare for when putting anything on the internet

internet culture do be weird

[tiny zealot]

that is true by and large of the internet, but the "this guy sucks" bar for stardew is pretty high and just publishing mods generally does not clear it

[fading walrus]

most mod users don't really know how mods work, tbh, so they can't judge
and mod authors generally respect each other's spaghet

[lucid iron]

I don't look at code until you break my mod

And if you open sourced it I'll probably fix it for you

[tiny zealot]

yeah almost no one is going to read your code unless they have strong reasons

[fading walrus]

[blissful panther]

We can at least smite down that kind of negativity if it's bad in the server, so that's one thing!

[fading walrus]

i see shiny, i download
only if shiny causes something to break, i poke under the hood

[obtuse wigeon]

I can promise you if someone looked at my mod they'd 100% be like "This is a mess!" but that's part of the learning journey, finding new and better ways to do stuff

[fast plaza]

yeah its defo an irrational fear haha

true true!

stardew is probably an especially good place for this kinda experimentation too cuz it absolutely is one of the nicest communities I've ever seen.

[unreal spoke]

Well, we rarely bite!

[blissful panther]

And when we do, it's because you're making an XNB mod. /j

[unreal spoke]

(You’ve also got a PMD profile pic of one of my favorite starters, so that automatically makes you cool in my book.)

[unreal spoke]

Oh yeah, we’ll probably need to get the pitchforks and torches if you decide to make an XNB mod, so, uh… don’t do that?

[fading walrus]

(Dora, have I ever told you your current pfp is so stinking cute. you're just a happy lil guy in a basket and I'm living for it)

[fast plaza]

hell yeah!

[fading walrus]

this raises important questions tho, Tofu

whatcha making?

[obtuse wigeon]

I still have no idea how an XNB mod works and I'm so glad I don't have too, especially with the amount of compatability issues my mod would have alone

[fading walrus]

share the shinies with the class!

[unreal spoke]

(I don’t know, but I love the little guy, too. )

[obtuse wigeon]

Isn't it owlette from pokemon? I'm pretty sure it is, absolutly love the little guy

[round timber]

rowlett!

[unreal spoke]

Unpack vase game file, edit unpack base game file, repack base game file, throw edited base game file into your game content folder. Don’t.

[fading walrus]

rowlet!!

[tiny zealot]

rowlet is one of the guys of all time

[obtuse wigeon]

ew ye thats sounds like pure hatrid

[unreal spoke]

Rowlet.

[fading walrus]

littol birb

[obtuse wigeon]

Rowlet thats the name! I was close atleast

[urban wigeon]

[lucid iron]

Orb

https://tenor.com/view/rowlet-pokemon-grass-owl-cute-gif-5442885

[fast plaza]

little spellbook mod. adds some spells from runescape and magic levelling. Its a pretty good way to practice making bigger stuff cuz I dont have to focus on the graphical side of things which I'm atrocious at and having a menu with on click effects is effectively just a cheat menu with resource costs and some pazzazz

[fading walrus]

👀
Ooooooo

[lucid iron]

Dats fun

[fading walrus]

that sounds really fun!

[lucid iron]

It is time to shill stardewui my beloved again

[fast plaza]

its almost done I'm just tryna bug test multiplayer and do some balancing which is way harder than i thought it'd be!

[urban wigeon]

I recently tried to do a pixel art, I'm so bad at it ;-; so I stick with coding too

[brittle ledge]

Oh nice! I don't know much about RuneScape but a standalone magic mod would be lovely

[obtuse wigeon]

YES! I absolutly love magic mods so another one to add to the repertoire would be fantastic

[fast plaza]

ayy well I hope it wont disappoint!

[fading walrus]

you should totally drop lil sneek peaks in here, we'd love to see them!

[brittle ledge]

Anyway the whole game is built on spaghetti (which we fondly joke about) so don't worry too much about people being mean with your spaghetti As long as it isn't breaking a bunch of other mods, people probably won't even look.

[fading walrus]

good pasta, great pasta

[brittle ledge]

(unless, like, you ask them to because you want help)

[whole raptor]

I don't really know how half of my mods work at this point (I haven't looked at them in ages )

[urban wigeon]

My mod started pretty simple with just content patcher, now I have like 6 harmony patches to fix some hardcoded/spaghetti stuff :p

[fading walrus]

my mods are held together with a lot of chu rubberducking at this point

[deep cypress]

Thanks so much!!! I will use this! With the StageOnSpawn vs StageOnRegrow part, does Stage mean when it makes the tree appear? Can I choose both?

[gentle rose]

meanwhile my mods started out c# and somehow right now I ended up working on javascript and a bunch of regexes

[fast plaza]

my strategy was literally just to download the art from the runescape wiki , downsize them in paint.net to the right size and do a little bit of small edits to fix it. it has had. mixed results. the staff on the right looks like nothing when you dont have the context of what the item is

[brittle ledge]

Feels like a downgrade tbh, going from C# to Javascript

[urban wigeon]

It's definitely really hard to make something detailed look good in a very small item

[gentle rose]

I mean

it sure is but also man is it fun to do js crimes

[fast plaza]

forreal

[brittle ledge]

My art strategy is to pay others to do it for me I am content to focus on the parts I'm better at (writing and committing crimes)

[gentle rose]

(also, be mindful of copyright. It's usually best to redraw because using existing assets is a much more clear cut copyright violation than redrawing them and runescape could end up taking your mod down)

[whole raptor]

Ah... js and regex... reminds of the horrible code that is the i18nifier

[gentle rose]

what if we make the i18nifier into a tiled extension /j

[fast plaza]

true true. The company behind runescape is usually pretty lenient with copyright stuff, youtubers for the game are allowed to sell merch that has stuff like characters from the game. If the mod does get taken down though I can probably just do what pokemon fangame developers do and rename everything and make custom sprites haha

[fast plaza]

Didn't stardew mods get in the news a couple months ago when someones mod got taken down by the baldurs gate 3 devs?

[gentle rose]

I don't think renaming is even necessary! names aren't protected, but art is (at least that's my understanding of copyright law, @fading walrus confirm)

[urban wigeon]

That reminds me the tiled extension of fixing the tilesheets has been awesome for me, no more copy-paste timesheets on my 10 folders of patches :D

[whole raptor]

By the IP owner of DnD (or something), BG3's devs endorsed the mod

[gentle rose]

it wasn't by the devs, it was wotc, and they ended up letting it go back up and pretending it was an accident

[brittle ledge]

Yeah, that one's a little unusual because 1. WotC are known dicks, and 2. They are trying to monetize it a fair bit

(they being the mod authors)

[safe kraken]

Completely random and quite possibly nonsensical question, y'all know if there's a way to know if a dialogue line has been completed

[brittle ledge]

Completed how, like read?

[gentle rose]

iirc wotc = d&d owners, known dicks, larian = devs, seem pretty chill

[safe kraken]

I'm having an idea and want to know if I can try it

[whole raptor]

As in seen? Don't think so Unless we can add flags in dialogues, which I have no clue

[gentle rose]

if you mean read, I think you can set mail flags and/or cts in dialogue?

[safe kraken]

like, the dialogue box is filled and no more text is being written

[tiny zealot]

if you want this for one specific line, use $action to set a flag when it's spoken (or some similar thing, like $1)

[brittle ledge]

Oh hm, that's trickier

[gentle rose]

ohhh I see, so like a c# mod?

[safe kraken]

Maybe? Anything

[gentle rose]

I don't think anything in content patcher is that timing-sensitive

what are you trying to do?

[tiny zealot]

if you're in C# i'm certain there's a field or something you can check. in CP, no, like iro said

[safe kraken]

I just have a crazy idea

[brittle ledge]

If you can't do a mailflag/CT, BETAS can add trigger actions to dialogue

What's the idea, if you want to share?

[safe kraken]

Y'all know persona right? I wanted to try to make it so the portraits looks like it's talking

[fast plaza]

Oo that's a neat idea

[safe kraken]

Just like in the persona's game

[tiny zealot]

absolutely possible, but 1. art and 2. extremely C# territory

[brittle ledge]

Dacar can handle the first

[safe kraken]

art I can cover so I would just need to know how to do the C stuff

[whole raptor]

Welp... I heard about it...

[safe kraken]

I kinda know C# so I just need to know how to do it with SDV

[brittle ledge]

The dialogue framework mod might have something that can do that? Otherwise yeah it'd be C#

[safe kraken]

I really need to go back to P5X, I have grind to do

[whole raptor]

I would absolutely love to see Persona style mods (UI especially)

[gentle rose]

so it should stop talking when the typing is done basically? (have not played persona)

[safe kraken]

yeh

[urban wigeon]

I dropped P5X, just played it for about a week 💀

[wanton pebble]

....I don't know how you'd do that but that sounds terrifying with sdv's art

[safe kraken]

Understandable, I just wanna play for the history

[wanton pebble]

The talking portraits that is

[gentle rose]

hmm, I could look into that code for you if you want

I'm intrigued

[safe kraken]

I would do it in HD basically

[whole raptor]

Not the biggest fan either... but it's Persona 😅 The style just draws me in

[tiny zealot]

so by "1. art" i meant that compatibility with effectively every portrait mod is a necessary consideration, not that dacar does not have art chops

[safe kraken]

I would owe you a ton if you could help me xD

[wanton pebble]

Oh, hd, that sounds less cursed XD

[wanton pebble]

This is why I thought it would be cursed!

[round timber]

could it be a framework type thing perhaps?

[gentle rose]

or you would want it to only be enabled for specifically compatible portraits (either just the ones in the mod or make it framework ish)

[lucid iron]

I think you can do it rn with spacecore animations if you don't care about lip sync

[whole raptor]

I wonder if Dacar will one day actually make me want to use HD stuff in sdv... I doubt there's anyone else who is capable of it

[wanton pebble]

That's.... not a bad idea vin

[brittle ledge]

Tbh I would make it an HD portrait set and just not do compat with stuff except possibly Nyapu and DSV

[lucid iron]

Basically just have a speaking anim play with some chance per tick

[gentle rose]

can you make it stop talking once dialogue is done typing?

[safe kraken]

Oh, believe me I will try

[tiny zealot]

i could put it in my (unfinished!) voice sounds/VA framework

[lucid iron]

if you don't care about lipsync

[safe kraken]

The animation part I was going to do with SpaceCore, I just wanted a timing to stop

[lucid iron]

Otherwise tho I'd probably ask mangupix about this

[round timber]

ooh is it like undertale kinda? every character gets a different "text appearing" sound?

[lucid iron]

DDFC might have something

[wanton pebble]

Persona doesn't, why should dacar? XD

[wanton pebble]

Ack meant to this

[tiny zealot]

yeah, undertale/banjo-kazooie style was the initial goal, but i added in full VA support because it was pretty easy. i also want animal crossing style to consider it done

[safe kraken]

Persona I think cares, just if you're listening to jp voices

[lucid iron]

I gotta say spacecore hd portraits is big pain

[safe kraken]

I use HD Portraits so I just suffer Spacecore HD in vendors

[lucid iron]

This shane hd portrait convert i did for friend has a 3k line json

[round timber]

wtf

[tiny zealot]

anyway it's already hooked into dialogue display, so animating portraits while i'm at it would not be a big ask (probably, lol)

[lucid iron]

It's by py script and could be shorter but still

[brittle ledge]

Ichor, could you use it to do the generic voice acting like, "Hi!" when starting a dialogue, "What?" if it switches to confused portrait, etc

[lucid iron]

Needing a separate entry per portrait is pain

[whole raptor]

What...? Oh converter... not conversion 😅

[lucid iron]

I think my script has bug rn anyways gotta fix it

[gentle rose]

so the game uses this (!this.transitioning && !this.showTyping && this.characterIndexInDialogue < this.getCurrentString().Length) to check if a dialogue box is finished typing

and all of these are public

so if we can grab the dialogue box, simple

[whole raptor]

I played enough gatcha games to grow to hate this kind of thing

[tiny zealot]

it's not set up for this, but it's probably doable

[left nova]

Feel like I have seen animated talking portraits somewhere

[brittle ledge]

Mad respect to the person doing Stardew Voices, but I feel like recording a bunch of generic lines is probably easier for time/compat

[safe kraken]

Oh, nice. I may try the animation part in a moment, just wondering with who should I do it and how to tackle it

[blissful panther]

Soon we'll be able to hire Matt Berry to voice the wizard... then everything will be complete.

[gentle rose]

do dialogue boxes emit some kind of event? like menu changed or something?

[obtuse wigeon]

How often am I allowed to use the publish to mod showcase for my own mod? I've added support for 7 new mods and a couple recolours since my first post 2 days ago, should I wait for longer to re showcase it? I just don't want to spam the showcase or annoy people

[whole raptor]

Not really, if there's an update you're free to showcase it

I think the only time I saw someone being "reprimanded" was when they were posting wips like 5 times a day...

[blissful panther]

It's about as contextual as how blue the sky is... that seems like a pretty major update, so I would say you're okay to do another one.

Several times per day would definitely be pushing it, though.

[round timber]

yeah if you do a huge string of posts in a row or are composing every other post in the showcase that becomes a bit eh

rough vibes from me though dont take that to heart

[obtuse wigeon]

the mods Ive added support for aren't the biggest mods, I think I'll work on support for the other 2 bigger mods I'm looking into then do another showcase in a couple days, thank you!

[urban wigeon]

Can someone showcase a mod for me right? I'm nowhere close to level 25 so I thought maybe to showcase some of my older mods while I level up :D

[round timber]

sure!

[urban wigeon]

And where do I ask for that, in any channel?

[round timber]

yur

here or #modded-stardew

technically also #making-mods-art

[blissful panther]

#modded-stardew tends to make more sense because of more eyes on the message itself in the channel though, if you want to optimise.

[urban wigeon]

Okay, thanks!

[gentle rose]

god I hate setting up a new c# project. idek why

[blissful panther]

Reasons I have a template project!

[urban wigeon]

There, my Anti-QOL mod is showcased :D

[lucid iron]

QoD quality of death

[urban wigeon]

[torpid sparrow]

Oh my god this would be gold

[blissful panther]

I've been considering replacing Junimo Kart with something like an I Wanna Be the Guy clone...

[gentle rose]

time to finally try modmanifestbuilder for the first time

[pine elbow]

Trying to recolor a sprite into an avocado, and I'm having trouble. Do I need to make it a tree?

since avocados are trees you know

[oblique meadow]

ok. Im stumped and im not sure how to troubleshoot this now. In my farmhouse I have a single space as shown below. Its obviously on the front layer. I have gone through EVERY SINGLE map and there's no reason that should be there. Is there an easy way to diagnose how it's there?

[lucid iron]

oh is that the one hard coded tile in farmhouse

I think farmhouse fixes fixes it

[oblique meadow]

it's at 49 19

[lucid iron]

I been meaning to make a lite version actually

A mod that only fixes those 3 tiles

Without the rest of farmhouse fixes

[whole raptor]

I was always curious why some tiny random things are hardcoded... like this and the UI line

[lucid iron]

Cus mr ape isn't a modder

[left nova]

Is Farmhouse cursed?

[lucid iron]

Yes

[oblique meadow]

As someone who modded the farmhouse

Yes

[lucid iron]

But yeah since I don't have this smol mod for you just go use farmhouse fixes or design ur house around this silly tile

[oblique meadow]

Im glad to know its not me haha

i'll try fixes. Thanks

[blissful panther]

Feels like a potentially good suggestion for the 1.6.16 thread...

[gentle rose]

oh this dialogue thing will require a tiny bit of harmony

[brittle ledge]

You can have little a Harmony, as a treat

[gentle rose]

...how bad is it to postfix a draw call

[pine elbow]

cant find the apricot sprite

[gentle rose]

screw it I'm postfixing draw

[lucid iron]

@golden basin i mentioned to you yesterday already but there is a mmap feature for spawning critters

Do you have any particular desire

[golden basin]

oh shoot i missed it!!!

im wanting to spawn custom critters and just have them behave reguarly

[lucid iron]

The feature in mmap is less complex than the custom critters mod by casey

It basically let's you spawn things like crabs and rabbits, optionally with your own texture, and at specific tiles

[golden basin]

oh hell yeah i love that

ill look into it and if i need help ill come back here?

[lucid iron]

Yep lmk if docs unclear

[golden basin]

theres not a example on the code could i see it?

or is this purely for in tiled

[pine elbow]

why do sprites need to be in so many places

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/Mushymato/MiscMapActionsProperties/blob/main/[CP] MMAP Examples/critters.json

I didn't make any tiled examples but it'd be similar

[golden basin]

thank you i have such a hard time with kithub

[lucid iron]

You can also use it as a traction if you want more control

mushymato.MMAP_Critter X Y etc

[blissful panther]

mushymato.MMAP_If TIME 1700 ## mushymato.MMAP_Critter Butterfly T 4 ## mushymato.MMAP_Critter Firefly T 8

Do I spy a sneaky little ternary? Noting this idea down to steal...

[lucid iron]

I stole it from mr ape (this is map version of the traction If in base game)

Although i need to improve the syntax cus it doesn't do nested If lol

[pine elbow]

i am losing my mind

[blissful panther]

And yeah, that is one of the more annoying parts!

You'll get used to where things live fast enough, though. What are you looking for?

[gentle rose]

made portraits start shaking and change time to 8pm when typing is done

[left nova]

Uhm... may I ask why are you in there?

[gentle rose]

because that's where debug wtc robin spawned me?

[lucid iron]

You need to assert dominance and use wctm

[gentle rose]

I cba to wait for characters to get up just to test my silly little harmony patch

but then I wouldn't have demetrius to test on too obviously

[left nova]

Wait is this a trigger, for trigger action?

[gentle rose]

what is?

[left nova]

What you are doing here?

[gentle rose]

oh, yeah it will probably be a trigger for TypingDone or something

something so that dacar can easily pause their animations when typing is done

[gentle rose]

oh right @safe kraken tadaaaaaa

[safe kraken]

LETS GO

[lucid iron]

But does sc even expose this

[gentle rose]

sc?

[safe kraken]

I have this chat open just in case xD

[lucid iron]

Spacecore

[gentle rose]

oh no, I was going to make a new trigger

that's the point

[lucid iron]

No like

Is there even a spacecore provided traction for stopping animation

You probably need to do it yourself

[gentle rose]

trapped

[gentle rose]

nooooooo I don't want to mess with anims

[pine elbow]

i made an avocado seed im so happy

[lucid iron]

Just do the whole portrait animation part ez

But maybe gotta fight DDFC

[gentle rose]

why do you hate me

[safe kraken]

I mean, I have the idea to make an "overlay" anim for the mouth moving, having the mouth separate from the face and when it's over make it so it stops showing the mouth edit

[gentle rose]

nice, sounds like I don't need to touch animations after all

[safe kraken]

I will try to do that on my own, if I can't then I'll come back xD

[left nova]

gasp BETAS rival incoming?

I'd love more trigger and trigger actions mod to be honest.

[gentle rose]

absolutely not in a million years in fact, if button is willing to adopt this into betas, she can have it

[lucid iron]

That's probably harder for iro than just doing the draws

You can do these but assemble them as editimage if that makes it easier for you tho

[gentle rose]

is there no change portrait traction action?

[lucid iron]

No there's only event command

Why r u doing other unrelated crimes when you already did the harmony crimes

[gentle rose]

I feel like making a change portrait traction action that only works inside dialoguebox should be fairly easy from what I've seen, without doing any unrelated crimes

[gentle rose]

my harmony crime ended up being on update rather than draw

ugh fine I move it to draw

actually I probably don't even have to

[lucid iron]

I think what u can do is

Break into spacecore's skip prefix

And control whether it animates there

It does actually have a simple percent chance to not animate system

[safe kraken]

This is turning more complicated than I thought it would xD

[lucid iron]

I think u might as well get 1 single portrait's animations done

So that it's easier to see how this might work

[safe kraken]

I'm doing the mouth animation rn

I was looking at persona's assets to see as reference

[uncut viper]

(this seems like something that should really ideally be done in a proper framework and not janked via super niche tractions, so I will pass)

[gentle rose]

do you happen to remember where in spacecore's source it is my brain is apparently too fried to find it rn

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/spacechase0/StardewValleyMods/blob/develop/SpaceCore/VanillaAssetExpansion/VanillaAssetExpansion.cs#L355

This is DDFC, the other mod that i keep mentioning https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/22678

It is very suitable for this feature imo

[gentle rose]

oh, it really is

[safe kraken]

So, this would be the loop

using Razzy cause she is divided by pieces so it's the easier one to draw

My idea was to have the face, and then have the patch only cover the mouth

[lucid iron]

Send in PR to mangupix then

It looks like u can restrict things per npc too

[gentle rose]

unfortunately it appears my eyes have once again given up for the day

[pine elbow]

gimp 3 is infuriating me again

the fill colors feature is so janky

[worn oar]

is there any way to remove these? I have no idea what furniture this was that I guess I've since removed

[lucid iron]

You should be able to pick these up

[worn oar]

oh nvm yeah I was clicking in the wrong spot whoops

[gentle rose]

also I think we're overcomplicating this so I'll probably have a go at just animating the portrait myself after all

[gentle rose]

could you dm me the transparent versions so I can use them for testing?

[safe kraken]

I sended you the one I want to try

I'm trying to see if I can animate it with HDP on

[gentle rose]

nice, ty

I may have to get back to this tomorrow depending on when my eyes decide to start focusing again, but right now my plan is to just handle the animation for you tbh

[safe kraken]

Oh, that would be awesome if you end up being able to do it

And no worries, I just wanted to see if it's possible, as I'm still doing RSV portraits and wanted to see if I could add them there xD

[torpid sparrow]

is there a way to sell a specific smoked fish in a shop

[tender bloom]

I would guess no in vanilla, though there is the fish-specific baits so maybe??

The traveling cart def only sells "wine"

[brittle pasture]

[[Modding:Item_queries]] you want FLAVORED_ITEM

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Item_queries

[rancid vortex]

How would you edit the chance for catching fish?

Its in data/locations I know

but how does it work? I'm having a tough time figuring it out

[torpid sparrow]

thank you!

[brittle ledge]

There's a formula, but tbh your best bet is to find a vanilla fish that's about as rare as you want and steal its numbers.

[rancid vortex]

I see I see

[brittle ledge]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Adding_a_New_Fish#Adding_fish_as_fish

There's a link to the spot on the wiki there if you really want to calculate.

[violet valley]

Hi! I'm new to making quests, how do I make a quest where it is a lost item, kinda like robin's axe, but then when you return it, it triggers something?

[rancid vortex]

oo thank you

I'm trying to edit the vanilla spawn rates but this is probably helpful anyways

[lucid iron]

Add an $action to the response dialogue

[violet valley]

ok

@lucid iron but like can that be used to make a map edit?

[golden basin]

@lucid iron i have a property suggestion?

custom daily quest board

[violet valley]

ohh figured it out

trigger action strings

[lucid iron]

Yeah if you use it to set a mail flah

And then normal HasFlag stuff

[violet valley]

Ok

[lucid iron]

You can use Billboard 3 iirc

[golden basin]

wait what

[lucid iron]

When i helped with this mod i made one of the furniture open daily quest for fun https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/34866

I just don't remember if 3 is the right number (cus you can also open calendar with Billboard it's funny)

[golden basin]

oh but im wanting to only have certain quest on it

[lucid iron]

That's a whole thing then, probably outside of mmap scope

[latent cape]

Uh, Is there any way to set a specific day for the completion requirements of Location quest? Let's say i want to make a location quest that can only be completed when it's either monday or tuesday

[uncut viper]

no

[pine elbow]

can i show mod art here

[lucid iron]

I know esca modding plugins can add custom special order boards

[pine elbow]

or is their another channel

[violet valley]

in making-mods-art

[latent cape]

Well that sucks, but good to know, thank you

[uncut viper]

however Aeris if you dont care about it specifically being the Location quest type you can always make it Basic

[lucid iron]

But custom help wanted would need to do something about the prize ticket system too

[uncut viper]

and only Remove it if its Monday or Tuesday

(1.6.16 will be getting a trigger action to properly Complete it too, which has little difference to removal except it plays the jingle and the player is actually notified its completed)

[lucid iron]

That's why i think it's probably a whole new mod if anything

[golden basin]

im not wanting to do speical orders cause of the time limit system

but hmmm

[latent cape]

Ah that might work, thanks for the suggestion

[golden basin]

I mean I could do a special orders board and have a c# part for my mod making it unlimited time

[violet valley]

Like how? I'm kinda new to all the flag stuff

[golden basin]

I just dont know hhow to code c#

[lucid iron]

Hold on im talking to 2 ppl here

[violet valley]

Oki srry

[lucid iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/26117

You can use this until 1.6.16 comes out

You can also hijack the untimed features from sve es etc lol

[golden basin]

my mod probably wont be out until after that anyhow haha

its not even half way finished im still working on the crops and objects

[lucid iron]

But yeah I'm not opposed to idea of help wanted framework it just won't be mmap

[golden basin]

cause for some reason decided to make a whoooooole ass thing

i made 16 crops, all with foods that can be made from them, large crops included so i have a lot to do in that reguard but ive been trying to iron out my current issues with the mod

[lucid iron]

Ok so you can use $action to AddMail your flag, see wiki for details on that. Afterwards you can use your flag in a content patcher When condition via HasFlag and conditionally do the EditMap

You won't be able to do instant map edits without some kind of framework

[golden basin]

It'd be cool to show you sometime chu id love your thoughts on what i have so far and how to better imrpove upon things

[violet valley]

Ok ty for the help

Oh

[lucid iron]

Usually the edits happen on new day

[golden basin]

you could do updateon though?

[violet valley]

Ok thats ok for what im making

[lucid iron]

Yeah then u good

[violet valley]

Maybe

[lucid iron]

I'll be real im a bad person to ask about game design and balance but i like seeing you make things regardless and don't mind being sounding board

[uncut viper]

but i already made Soundboard (/j)

[golden basin]

😊

[lucid iron]

It's a sound and sturdy soundboard ::::)

-# button what if u extract the quest bits from cmf

[uncut viper]

the only quest types i support are museum quests

im not sure what extracting that would do

[verbal junco]

I'm having an issue making a loading zone from a custom farm to a custom area (error says location wasn't found/couldn't be loaded). I have the loading zone coming back from the custom area working, and can warp there via debug using the location's DisplayName just fine.
I'm guessing it's something to do with how I have my project set up, where it's technically 2 mods (one as a content pack for Custom Farm Loader and the other for Content Patcher)

[uncut viper]

why are you using Custom Farm Loader

[violet valley]

js use content patcher

[verbal junco]

I feel bad replacing existing farms and it's what I'm familiar with.

[uncut viper]

you dont need to replace existing farms

[violet valley]

I have a non replacing template i made one time

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/30483

[lucid iron]

It's not a very serious suggestion I just like how your model is laid out

[violet valley]

U can use that @verbal junco

[verbal junco]

Oh neat.

[violet valley]

Bc in 1.6 CA allowed non replacing new farms

[golden basin]

oh heres a question, how do i add treatures to the fishable treasure chest

[lucid iron]

Item extensions has that

[uncut viper]

its what i would hope for if Data/Quests was an actual data model so u would be welcome to steal it. i just turned the slash delimited fields into properties anyway

[brittle pasture]

we can just wait for 1.6.16 and migrate to untimed special orders forever and ever and ever

[uncut viper]

well and changed how host only next quests work bc its dumb in vanilla

[calm nebula]

Host only next quests?

[uncut viper]

yes

if an ID in the next quests section starts with a lowercase h it will only be given to you if you are the host

[verbal junco]

Regardless, I'm not sure what my issue with the loading zone is.

[uncut viper]

specifically a lowercase h, specifically at the start, and the h is removed after to get the actual quest ID

[brittle pasture]

though special orders are global right, not per player
so maybe not 100% drop in

[uncut viper]

so if you wanted your quest id itself to start with a lowercase h and be given as a next quest, lol no

(this happened with i believe nic whose mod id started with h and led to weird errors)

[violet valley]

Are you using content patcher now?

Bc Custom Farm Types is broken now

(pretty sure)

[uncut viper]

we cant be sure what the issue is either, because you havent shown us the issue

and no it is not broken

[violet valley]

oh

but yeah can u show the issue?

[verbal junco]

Which part?

[uncut viper]

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[uncut viper]

the whole thing

[verbal junco]

Ah
1 sec

[torpid sparrow]

Anyone know why this isn't showing up in game? No errors just doesnt show up

[violet valley]

What isnt showing up? the TileData?

[torpid sparrow]

no the entire counter

hm those tiles just wont show up

i tried a different one and they showed up

[violet valley]

ah

hmm

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[violet valley]

Can you send ur log?

[torpid sparrow]

ok

https://smapi.io/log/969d83c7c1804270a4ada38e28da3ffd

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 43 C# mods and 28 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them, SMAPI is out of date, consider updating it

[torpid sparrow]

all the shops errors are fixed they show up fine

[violet valley]

Ok I'll take a look

wait it works now?

[torpid sparrow]

no my issue isnt the shop

my issue is the tiles not showing up in game

the counter isn't showing up

[violet valley]

ok.

is your mod called The Firebird's Sword - A Ginger Island Expansion?

bc if it is it has errors

[torpid sparrow]

yes everything else shows up

[violet valley]

ok it has errors, ill take a look

[calm nebula]

Wait really

[torpid sparrow]

all the errors that were present in the log i already fixed

[violet valley]

ok

[calm nebula]

Sucks to be a mod authors with a name that starts with h

[uncut viper]

it does!

thats why i changed that in my custom quest data model implementation for CMF

[calm nebula]

We love you CA. Never change

[torpid sparrow]

maybe ill change my tilesheet and thatll fix it

[violet valley]

ok try that

[calm nebula]

(Pathos plz 1.6 data/queste model)

[uncut viper]

it was on the TODO im pretty sure

[latent cape]

Did u in any chance set the layer invisible in Tiled perhaps?

[violet valley]

Hm yes that may be it if you did

[torpid sparrow]

no

its the buildings layer everything else in buildings shows

[violet valley]

Hmm odd

[calm nebula]

I'm pretty sure pathos todo.txt >int.maxvalur

[verbal junco]

https://smapi.io/log/be0b48d4adcc4959ab0551c67d4d30cd

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 9 C# mods and 4 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them, SMAPI is out of date, consider updating it

[violet valley]

Your log says Warp to VolcanoFarmCave failed: location wasn't found or couldn't be loaded.

[verbal junco]

Yeah. That's the main issue. But I can warp there via debug just fine.

[violet valley]

Ok

Can you send over your map file?

Maybe there is an issue there

[verbal junco]

The warps use the destination's DisplayName, which works fine with the debug.

[torpid sparrow]

ok now it shows up

i didnt change anything i dont know what that was

[verbal junco]

The warps Property on the map:
110 32 BusStop 11 23 110 33 BusStop 11 23 110 34 BusStop 11 23 51 94 Forest 68 0 52 94 Forest 68 0 53 94 Forest 68 0 78 1 Backwoods 14 39 79 1 Backwoods 14 39 80 1 Backwoods 14 39 90 65 FarmCave 8 11 49 25 VolcanoFarmCave 30 59 50 25 VolcanoFarmCave 31 59

[uncut viper]

well according to your log your location isnt called VolcanoFarmCave. it seems to be called coola101.Volcanic-CP_VolcanoFarmCave

[verbal junco]

Hm.
I'll try that.

[uncut viper]

debug warp is a fuzzy search

[rustic oracle]

hello 👋🏻 trying to make my own UI mod but im struggling to find all the image files i need in order to completely change it to how i'd like. spriters resource hasnt been helpful since their called different things in the actual game files.

ive tried looking at other mods that change the UI for reference but its all just more confusion

[uncut viper]

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[uncut viper]

dont use spriters resource use your game files

it will make referencing other UI mods less confusing

[rustic oracle]

thank you 🖤

[lucid iron]

I recommend lavender dreams as an example

It changes many things and has bunch of mod support too

[verbal junco]

No dice x.x

[round timber]

i blush from the shadows

[lucid iron]

What does the error say now

[violet valley]

Did you save everything and reload your mod? @verbal junco

[verbal junco]

I should have saved.

[violet valley]

Ah that might be your issue

I gtg go though, too late at night for me

[verbal junco]

That's what I was thinking, tho I'm gonna double check

GN, sleep well!

[violet valley]

Ty

[verbal junco]

[game] Warp to VolcanoFarmCave failed: location wasn't found or couldn't be loaded.

[uncut viper]

doesnt look like you changed the warp name

[verbal junco]

Yeah, that's the weird thing...

...because I edited the wrong version of the map :/

There we go, thank you!

[urban patrol]

yes indeed, the most bizarre error i've ever gotten lol

[tender agate]

Is there a way to get all the names/event ids/LogNames for events in my game?
separately or otherwise doesn't matter. I just need a way to get the list of them.

[gentle rose]

patch export the events asset for every location ig?

[tender agate]

okay, thanks

[violet valley]

How do I make a quest with a quest box to turn items into?

Nvm I figured it out

[fair locust]

well it's official

i have Begun Reading The Documentation

[latent cape]

How do u actually set Data/Quest model? Kind of recycled it from using Data/mail model and tried using triggeraction for it but it says that it can't find the quest ID. Can't exactly find how to set it properly in wiki other than it's initial entry

Or do i need to wait until 1.6.16 update for that

[uncut viper]

its a slash-delimited string like furniture is. you just add a new string to Data/quests

the quest ID is the key you gave it

[vital lotus]

Currently with CP is there a way to add forages to map without affecting (adding new forage to spawn list) the base game forage? Or is it still FTM to specify new forage spawn?

[lucid iron]

you can use either FTM or spacecore

no way to do so in vanilla

[latent cape]

Wait how do u properly do that if i may ask? haven't seen a reference for it

[whole raptor]

Are quests gonna be the last thing left as slash delimited strings instead of data models after the next update?

[uncut viper]

have you looked at CP's EditData documentation?

the wiki page for Quest data explains the format

[uncut viper]

(quests might be getting a model in the next update anyway)

[royal stump]

some others like Data/Boots still do it too

[vital lotus]

Hoo, i already use Spacecore as dependency, lemme look how to do so with it...

[uncut viper]

no, Data/Boots is already a model in 1.6.16

[royal stump]

oh, surprising, I didn't see it mentioned & was just skimming the wiki

[uncut viper]

same with Data/Hats

[whole raptor]

Ooh, that's nice to hear (and a pain since I feel like I'm gonna have a lot of fixing for the i18nifier when the update comes... )

[calm nebula]

Yay boots and hat models+

Is furniture?

[uncut viper]

yes

[royal stump]

AquariumFish and Fish, ig? those feel like something someone would've mentioned

[calm nebula]

I believe sinz had a list of string models

Uh, what about recipes

[uncut viper]

fish is still a string model as of right now

dont recall if it was on the TODO

[royal stump]

recipes are both strings as of whenever I decompiled it, yeah

[uncut viper]

recipes i think was tentatively on the TODO?

[calm nebula]

grep "fish" "pathos-todo.txt"

[uncut viper]

clearly pathos should commit his TODO to a repo somewhere for us all to look at and PR to it /j

[calm nebula]

Poor pathos

[royal stump]

requesting a webcam feed over his shoulder so we can backseat while he works on it

[calm nebula]

I'm sure he doesnt want to pair program with the entire fucking channel

half of us aren't even real devs

(I'm complex)

[latent cape]

Already did like it was given but CP can't seem to find it's ID, perhaps I'm doing something wrong with the Data/Quest

https://smapi.io/json/none/f69d5e2032d84af799d3f65ff992b218

[uncut viper]

this file isnt anything CP can read

theres no changes field so if its supposed to be included, it isnt

also you wrote Data/Quest instead of Data/Quests

[latent cape]

Oh wait that might be it

[uncut viper]

well aside from the "not in a format CP can read" thing

thats also pretty important

[latent cape]

I may or may not cut some of the major format needed in that validator, but i used the same format for the mail it worked, so it's weird for me that it didn't work for the quest

[lucid iron]

the format for quests is different than mail

[uncut viper]

there is very rarely ever good reason to omit stuff from your json when asking for help when you dont know where the error lies

[latent cape]

Yeah sorry, i may cut it hastily to make it short

[uncut viper]

the validator cares not for length

unless your json is int.MaxValue characters long maybe

[latent cape]

But no worries apparently this was the actual problem, it's now fixed, thank you, sorry for the inconveniences

[latent cape]

Ah noted

[wanton pebble]

Is there currently a way to have a gift not count toward the weekly gift limit of a character?

... baseline, that is

[hard fern]

🤔 uh, hm. i know the stardrop tea doesnt count but im not sure about like. how that works ngl

[lucid iron]

i guess you can make them reject the thing but get friendship anyways?

stardrop hardcoded

[hard fern]

ah

[wanton pebble]

Sadly I need them to accept it

welp, I know what I have to do

[uncut viper]

it might not count if its a quest item?

[wanton pebble]

Has to be a regular item, also unfortunately

[uncut viper]

that might still be possible

it may work with a SecretLostItem quest

the player wont know they have the quest and the item can be anything

[wanton pebble]

sadly, this is for the Darkroom Portrait Shop, so the Portrait Ticket can't work like that :S

[uncut viper]

how do the tickets work currently?

are they just bought from a shop? can they be given to everyone?

or is it a ticket specific to an NPC

[wanton pebble]

Yes, yes, and no

[uncut viper]

do you have to hardcode support for specific NPCs?

[lucid iron]

what does baseline mean here? i originally thought you meant vanilla

[wanton pebble]

Technically yes? The goal would be to prevent it from being given to any NPC that doesn't have a portrait. That's doable with SpaceCore

[uncut viper]

because if so, you could give the player a SecretLostItem quest for every NPC you support with unlimited duration

[wanton pebble]

Vanilla, chu

and it has to be repeatable, which is the other half

[lucid iron]

but u have spacecore anyways

[uncut viper]

SecretLostItem quests dont care where you get the item

[wanton pebble]

As an optional dependency, chu

[uncut viper]

you could re-give them the quest in the reaction dialogue

[lucid iron]

making things difficult smh /lh

[wanton pebble]

That... could work

[uncut viper]

or if that doesnt work use a mail flag to know when its been completed and re-give it overnight

[wanton pebble]

God that's arcane, but that could work

[uncut viper]

and by mail flag i mean CT

since you will get an auto-CT for it

(you'd need to remove the CT too)

[lucid iron]

i was gonna suggest using the fancy npc interactions stuff in spacecore

[wanton pebble]

Don't worry, I already have a system in place for adding mailflags - CTs wouldn't be too much of a stretch

[wanton pebble]

.... tell me more

[lucid iron]

it's not clear if this is even exposed to data though

ill get back to you on this

[uncut viper]

BETAS also has a traction to change the number of gifts given this week

[calm nebula]

Traction

[uncut viper]

i think it is doable completely vanilla though

yes, traction

[calm nebula]

I kinda like the secret lost quests idea even if scary

Or lyoko

You know

The hammer

[uncut viper]

i spent hours documenting how all the quest types work i wanna see the fruits of my labour used productively

[calm nebula]

(Your own c#)

[wanton pebble]

Look I want to do my own C# but that would have to wait at least a month

.... god that's right. in a month I'll be with friends in Cincinnati for a trip. What the hell is time

Anyway

[calm nebula]

Can I use the fruits of your labor unproductively

[uncut viper]

sure

[wanton pebble]

I'll probably prototype the logic sometime soon over one of my weekends. I have a laundry list of things to do but I'll add it to the list

[lucid iron]

ok it's a mystery how you can use the questions asked as any kinda flag lol
https://github.com/spacechase0/StardewValleyMods/blob/e867124afd8fb5f9eba88c40dac049bd73bc1c46/SpaceCore/NpcQuestions.cs#L50

maybe $action in answer text??

prob not fit for the situation i say u just do the funny vanilla quest run around

[calm nebula]

I kinda want someone to do a more quests mod

But i also am too lazy to do so

And wouldn't have the time to play the game anyways

[brittle pasture]

but what about smd fail on completion objectives

[calm nebula]

Hey Pathos!

Possibly a good fit for vanilla (jkjk)

[elfin grove]

Does anyone know how to prevent trees and debris from spawning inside a structure (outdoor) using the Content patcher?
I've already tried some ways and nothing, I feel like I'm forgetting something..

[lucid iron]

there's nospawn tile props

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps#General

NoSpawn True should be what you need

[golden basin]

you do that with tiled though

[elfin grove]

not working too

[golden basin]

if you do so with content patcher youd be defining every since coord

[lucid iron]

you set several of them which won't fly

just "NoSpawn": "True" i think

also if there's stuff there already it doesn't get cleared

[elfin grove]

using tiled too, "NoSpawn": T

nothing working

[lucid iron]

this is the third time i shall say that the value is either True or All

are you testing with everything despawned? this tile prop just prevents spawning stuff doesn't destroy already spawned

[elfin grove]

i know, i tested

too

new save

and existing save and breaking using destroyable bushes and sleeping some days

[lucid iron]

do you have any FTM packs

wait bushes

[lucid iron]

NoSpawn doesn't control bushes that one requires you to go and remove the paths tile

[elfin grove]

my bad, is wild trees

[lucid iron]

i think those r also paths tile

what NoSpawn wild tree means is that the seeds don't go there

but the paths trees still happen psure

[elfin grove]

https://tenor.com/view/but-i’m-not-original-gif-4077672862622552877

i need to remove the paths them

[lucid iron]

yep

[elfin grove]

now I understand

thanks!

[golden basin]

is it possible to spawn in gaint crops like on a map as foliage that spawns

i know spacecore lets you

[lucid iron]

yea i think FTM can do it? at least i saw it happen in here https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/23468

[golden basin]

i wanna do it with spacecore i think

[lucid iron]

need to find if it has support for resourceclumps then

probably is my guess

[golden basin]

i have the code to spawn things but idk hwo to despawn things is the issue

https://gist.github.com/spacechase0/35453e1e7a0593d8d4f00246c1dd3990

i was gonna use it for monsters too but i just cant figure out despawning

[vital lotus]

I don't think u can despawn?
Perhaps setting max spawnable in map or expiration day could be handy?
@next plaza

[uncut viper]

casey is on modding hiatus

[golden basin]

i think i just figured it out

testing it now

monster spawning i mean

dang not spawning hmm

"LogName": "SpawnMonsters",
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "spacechase0.SpaceCore/TriggerActionExtensionData",
"Entries": {
"{{ModID}}_SpawnMonsters.Trigger":{
"Id": "{{ModID}}_SpawnMonsters.Trigger",
"MarkActionApplied": false,
"Trigger": "Manual",
"Condition": null,
"HostOnly": false,
"Action": "spacechase0.SpaceCore_TriggerSpawnGroup {{ModID}}_SpawnMonsters {{ModID}}_Mines 2,2,10,10/25",
"Actions": null,
"Times": [ 630],
"CustomFields": {}
}
}
},```

this is the trigger action right?

[golden basin]

no wait i see

[golden basin]

okay i got the monsters spawning

now i gotta try and despawn them

cause otherwise they just build up infinitely

[wild tinsel]

I'm trying to make a simple resource pack mod. I know the mod is loaded. Why won't this work?

[uncut viper]

because your Target has a .png at the end

[wild tinsel]

?

should it not

[uncut viper]

no, it shouldnt

remove it

[wild tinsel]

ok. the example on the wiki had it so i assumed it should

[uncut viper]

neither of those Targets have .png in them

[wild tinsel]

ohh

i mixed up target and FromFile

thanks

[brave fable]

note that FromFile is specifically a file, so it expects a file extension, while the Target is purely an internal asset name

[wild tinsel]

got it

[golden basin]

I cant get them to despawn at all

[wild tinsel]

I know very little about json coding (or coding in general) so I was wondering if someone could help me make it automatically replace each texture?
I was thinking a loop that goes through each file in the assets folder and then replaces the original files for each image. Would that work?

[uncut viper]

you cannot do that with content Patcher

[wild tinsel]

is there a way to do that at all

[uncut viper]

if you use C#, sure

[brave fable]

mm, unfortunately CP doesn't offer any loops or wildcards

(or fortunately, depending on your point of view)

[wild tinsel]

why is there no texture pack mod 😭

[uncut viper]

because thats what CP is for

[lucid iron]

i mean you can write a python script that does what you want and write the cp json

[wild tinsel]

that being the abbreviation for content patcher is crazy because geometry dash discord users got banned for abbreviating creator points as that

[lucid iron]

it's not terribly difficult

[uncut viper]

there's never a need to bring attention to that

[brave fable]

we hope people here are a little more mature

[lucid iron]

as for doing this you can template-ify patches with local tokens

still not a true foreach in folder ofc

[wild tinsel]

Would it be a lot to ask someoe else to do that for me? I literally can't code and I just wanted to know if there was a simple way

[golden basin]

"LogName": "DeSpawnMonsters",
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/TriggerActions",
"Entries": {
"{{ModID}}_DeTimeSpawn":{
"Id": "{{ModID}}_DeTimeSpawn",
"MarkActionApplied": false,
"Trigger": "DayEnding",
"Condition": null,
"HostOnly": false,
"Action": "spacechase0.SpaceCore_ClearSetPiecesFromSpawnable {{ModID}}_SpawnMonsters {{ModID}}_Mines",
"Actions": null,
"CustomFields": {}
}
}
},```

shouldnt this work????

[uncut viper]

it would be a decent amount to ask of someone yes

[lucid iron]

if someone's willing sure, im not willing

gotta show me some pretty art first

[drowsy pewter]

I always got pretty art for you

[golden basin]

https://smapi.io/json/none/c12373b128d64065b4a434f3192bf82a

could someone look at my monster spawns and let me know if im doing something wrong? im trying to clear my spawns

[vital lotus]

Ah mb, i didn't know....

[obtuse wigeon]

To change something on a specific farm map using Content patcher would the target be "Maps/Farm_Ranching for the Rancher farm map? or do they all get loaded to just Maps/Farm

[vernal crest]

It would be Farm_Ranching

[obtuse wigeon]

Perfect thank you, my memory was wrong

[worn oar]

uhhh I tried to edit part of the more lively meadowlands farm map to have dirt where there was grass and now this is happening idk what it means

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/21694?tab=description it's this

and I was trying to make these circled spots dirt instead of grass

[vernal crest]

That means you edited the map in Tiled without all the tilesheets present in the same folder so it changed all the IDs for the tiles

I think Button's map fixer fixes that? Let me find it

https://stardew.button.gay/tools/mapfixer

Try uploading it to there

[worn oar]

when I open it I have to reroute all the texture's right?

[vernal crest]

No

That will break the map when in game

You have to either edit the map with all the tilesheets in the same folder (exact same, no subfolder) folder. Or use iro's Tiled extension that lets you use tilesheets that are in a different folder.

Here's the Tiled extension if you want to use that: #making-mods-general message

[worn oar]

but when I open the map in tiled it looks like this

sorry im so confused I've never edited a map before

[torpid sparrow]

it's a joy isnt it

[worn oar]

I love knowing im doing something wrong but having no idea what that something is

[torpid sparrow]

when you make a new map, its recommended to make a copy of the old in the Maps folder and edit it in there

then when ur ready to test it, copy it into your mod folder

[worn oar]

im not making a new one im making the tiniest edits to an existing modded map

just changing grass to dirt in a spot

[torpid sparrow]

oh wait so where are you editing that map?

if u edit the original map in the maps folder it should look fine?

[vernal crest]

As I said, you either have to have all the tilesheets in the same folder as the map

Or use the Tiled extension that I linked to in order to grab the tilesheets from another folder

If you have already told Tiled that the tilesheets are in another folder, you need to undo that

[worn oar]

I'm not im just opening the map from my mods folder

[vernal crest]

Are all the tilesheets in your mods folder too?

[worn oar]

no they weren't there originally I figured they were pulling from the vanilla ones

[vernal crest]

They are when the map is in game

[worn oar]

so I only need them in the folder when im editing in tiled?

[vernal crest]

But when you are editing the map in Tiled, they either need to be in the same folder or use iro's Tiled extension

Yes, unless you use iro's Tiled extension in which case they never need to be in the folder

The reason that they have to be in the folder (or use the Tiled extension) is that the image source file path cannot have any folders in it or the game won't know where to find the tilesheets.

But if they're in another folder and you're not using iro's extension in Tiled, Tiled won't know where to find them. Hence, same folder or the extension.

[worn oar]

ok I'll try using the extension

[obtuse wigeon]

Where are the textures for the static warp totems on the desert and island map? I've got the others but the desert one isn't on the desert tilesheet and the ocean one is on the island tilesheet?

Found the island one actually, that ones right at the edge, the desert on I still can't find however

[vernal crest]

If you have the map open you can right-click on the tile and it will take you to its location on the tilesheet

[obtuse wigeon]

it's in the extended tilesheet🤦 found it finally

[obtuse wigeon]

good point I forgot I could just open the map

[worn oar]

I tried using the extension but it didn't really work

[vernal crest]

Which steps did you try?

[worn oar]

oh wait it's bc I started moving the ones I needed over and thought I copied them but it moved them

yay it worked! ty for the help!!

[inland rain]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/36368

[obtuse wigeon]

Is there a tile to make this "T" section look nicer? I can find two seperate tiles but they can't be overlayer or merged without making a custom tilesheet

[pine elbow]

hi guys just realize the room 2003 is funny

[dusky sail]

you could use this one fromthe bottom left of town interiots to make it look a little better OR

if you can inclue the farmhouse tilesheet you could use these ones

i think the exact tile you want would have to be custom though 😔

[pine elbow]

is that hell

[dusky sail]

it's tiled so it may as well be

[obtuse wigeon]

Those look like they would be perfect! thank you!

[dusky sail]

i dont know how to include a new tilesheet but i knew they existed o7 happy to help

[pine elbow]

https://tenor.com/view/tommy-wiseau-haimark-the-room-gif-13081919

[pine elbow]

smores

[obtuse wigeon]

Theres actually an even better tile on the farm house tile sheet, I didn't realise the farm house even had a speperate tilesheet tbh

[dusky sail]

yeah that it doesn't make sense to me that it's entirely separate when a lot of it could be useable elsewhere

but. its not my job to make sense of things. i just work with what i have

[pine elbow]

why a dog emoji

why

[brave fable]

oh hi doggy

[tender bloom]

including a new tilesheet is something you can do in tiled btw, you just need to tell tiled where the sheet is and what it's named (and make sure embed it)

typically what you tell it is "hey look it's in Maps!" and it goes "ooh yeah that's where we are right now" and everything is chill

if you tell it "it's in this other random folder somewhere in the hard drive" then it goes "oh yeah, gotcha, saving that whooooole location" and then everything is messed up

[gaunt orbit]

[obtuse wigeon]

How do you reference other tilesheets that aren't in the Maps folder? like spritesheets in the characters folder?

[gaunt orbit]

You can't

It's not allowed

[tender bloom]

*Not allowed unless you install a special mod that helps you do that specific thing

[obtuse wigeon]

Ah... okay that puts a few wrenches in my plan, but at least its not a hammer

[obtuse wigeon]

this is a mod just for myself so I can add that mod, do you know what it's called by chance?

[tender bloom]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/30001

[obtuse wigeon]

That's so close to being one of the most satisfying links

[gaunt orbit]

Oh right I forgot that exists

[tender bloom]

just a few minutes too late for glory...

i forgot the name and googled "cross mod compatibility tokens"

but luckily that's just a different button mod

(a fact i did remember)

[gaunt orbit]

What's 9001?

[tender bloom]

"Linda the Rottsky"

a dog mod

Rottweiler/Husky mix, per the description

[gaunt orbit]

Huh, never seen that before

[tender bloom]

meneither

[obtuse wigeon]

It's by Buttons! I am looking to add their Cross Mod Compat Tokens for automatic matching for recolours with config options, but I mustv'e missed this mod when looking at their other mods

[lucid mulch]

Also there is a SMAPI PR for doing the tilesheet access natively in smapi without needing a mod, though using ATA wont guarentee it works post SMAPI support, as SMAPI's version needs to care about backwards compatibility more

[pine elbow]

ever watchted btas and sta

[calm nebula]

No idea what those are so no

[pine elbow]

batman the animated series

and superman the animated series

[lucid mulch]

not entirely sure how that relates to making stardew mods

[pine elbow]

thinking of mkaing a batman mod because reasons

[ocean sail]

@pine elbow You leveled up to Cowpoke. You can now speak in our voice channels and share images in all channels!

[pine elbow]

i have achieved the ability to speak fear me

[obtuse wigeon]

I'm trying to warp to a custom location using the debug warp command but the console says it's an unknown command, using the command "help" doesn't show any debug commands either

[latent mauve]

Make sure you have the Console Commands mod installed/active

(active if you are using a mod manager)

[obtuse wigeon]

Ahh gotcha, the wiki seems to be missing that Console Commands mod is needed

[latent mauve]

It's a SMAPI default and it's required for those commands to work

The wiki likely assumes you have it because it comes installed with SMAPI.

[obtuse wigeon]

Ahhh gotcha, I have somehow misplaced it, where could I download it from?

do I have to reinstall SMAPI to get it?

[latent mauve]

You can just reinstall SMAPI, if you lost that one you probably also somehow removed SaveBackup so it would be good to reinstall anyway.

SMAPI installs both Console Commands and SaveBackup through the normal SMAPI installer

[obtuse wigeon]

I probably did, I usually launch the game using different mod folders but I overwrote my normal Mods folder by accident so I'll just reinstall

[brave fable]

(i'd also endorse Chat Commands, which lets you just write debug commands in chat, formatted as /warp instead of debug warp)

[placid pond]

Question: what if I want to add the ability to flip between assets to a mod that doesn't natively have it. (ex. Mod offers 5 options but you can only use 1 for each time slot, is there a way to flip from Asset A to Asset C randomly without breaking the game?). I have tried to add this "^" as a way to say "or" for the config file but that just seemed to break it

[devout otter]

I feel like this really depends on how the mod in question load its asset. It would be helpful if you can tell what the mod is, and what exactly do you want to do with it,

[placid pond]

It's called "Golden Hour Window Light" by Latteholn; it offers only one choice configuration for "morning", "afternoon" and "night" and I want to make the different assets available both weather dependent and more randomized for the time variations or at least, add more variance to when those assets appears/affect the game.

[devout otter]

And you want to arrange it within another mod?

[placid pond]

I want it to still run within said mod folder, just affect the game state differently than what the mod typically does

If that's not possible than I'd make it it's own separate file

[devout otter]

Oh, you want to edit the mod itself for personal use?

[placid pond]

Yes

[devout otter]

Editing the mod directly would actually be simpler.

[placid pond]

That's what I figured

[devout otter]

So you want to do away with the config option, right?

And implement all the variations according to certain conditions?

[placid pond]

Exactly

[devout otter]

Then Dynamic Tokens is your friend: https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/tokens.md#dynamic-tokens

[placid pond]

Thank you! I'll tinker around with this and hopefully, I won't mess up too badly

[pine elbow]

i need a website where i can see ID and code names of items for Mobile, i searched some but i noticed that IDs in pc and mobile are different

[gentle rose]

are you sure? they shouldn't be afaik

[hard fern]

What ids are even different? 🤔

[pine elbow]

I've seached about IDs before and i would see different IDs in different websites

[vital lotus]

then it's the website that's the issue

what's the id here is for btw?

[lucid mulch]

I would highly doubt any ids are different when mobile and desktop could play multiplayer together in certain 1.6 builds when they were in version sync

[fossil osprey]

There's maybe an issue of old versions vs new versions, iirc some items have changed ID between 1.5 and 1.6
So if a website isn't updated, it'll be incorrect

[pine elbow]

you will see

[pine elbow]

yes that's why i need
but i think I've found

[lucid comet]

ello,
i'm here still sleepy, confused, not sure if this is the right place to ask and seeking knowledge.

i've run into a strange issue while updating mods and gathering info when smapi crashes:

• i updated a mod (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/32660 - see note 1 please)
• launch smapi/game through steam --> smapi crashes with fatal error (see below)
• look into my errorlog - the error/crash isnt logged
• delete mod, add in old version --> game launches (okay, looks like there is an issue with that version, time to gather info for a report)
• delete old version, update to new version again: crash as expected, manage to snag a screenshot of the console (see below)
• launch again, trying to grab the console text so i right-click the tab in the console window, hovering over export text ...... and the game launches?

notes:

• i'm aware that the modauthor is trying to get the mod itself to work (hence trying to gather info when smapi crashes), but since i got the game to launch with the new version after all i'm not even sure this issue has to do with that issue at all and dont really want to bother them without having a proper issue report .... which this does not feel like so far? maybe?
• i can reproduce this; tried ~3-5 times both crash and launch
• smapi log with crash: https://smapi.io/log/400b29dc99f94da181e5bf651dfcea0c
• smapi log with launch: https://smapi.io/log/694c5cfb1bac4c06aa3bc13dd292b5b7
  (yes there is a skipped atracore in there for reasons, it's been sitting there for month without me running into issues, so i really doubt it's related and i promise i'll get to not needing that .... soon™)

sooooo. question: how? why? i want to understand what's crashing where. it looks like maaaybe multithreading stumbling over something and me fiddling around with the console nudged that to not trigger the access violation? thoughts?

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26100.0, with 112 C# mods and 497 content packs.

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26100.0, with 112 C# mods and 497 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[lucid comet]

aaand the error:

[lucid iron]

Oh that's just good ol access violation exception

[lucid comet]

but why? why there? why consistently? ;_;

[lucid iron]

It's a strange harmony bug that inconsistently appears for reasons no one is quite sure about

[hard fern]

😔 ave bug again?

[lucid iron]

Anyways since you happened to have mmap

[lucid comet]

i mean, i have a workaround, so there is that

[lucid iron]

Go in config.json and replace true to false

That should jiggle the environment enough to not ave

[calm nebula]

Why do you have a skipped atracore

[lucid comet]

yes.

[calm nebula]

Smh there are 20k mods that work and are good 💞

[lucid comet]

i took a look at your calico spin stuffs a while ago and fiddled with it, got it to work for me, called it good enough and should just get around to extracting the needed parts from atracore .... soon.

so reasons

[lucid comet]

i might be blind here but: which config.json

i am blind. meep isnt mmap

[lucid iron]

The one inside mmap's folder

[calm nebula]

So the harmony issue - I've seen it more often using PatchAll

Interesting to see it happens to none PatchAll as well

[lucid iron]

Yeah mysterious

[calm nebula]

....wait, enough of the assembly is loading that you can use functions from it?

[lucid comet]

apparently? ^^

[calm nebula]

Anyways. When it was PatchAll there was a fairly reasonable connection with inlining

Without...I dunno

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/Mushymato/MiscMapActionsProperties/blob/main/MiscMapActionsProperties/Framework/Entities/FurnitureProperties.cs#L134

It die somewhere in here

But it's probably not a thing reproducible on anyone else's machine

[lucid comet]

so it does not have anything to do with the updated mod itself, ty for confirming that

[lucid iron]

You can also try cloning and building mmap yourself

[calm nebula]

Modentry.harm

[uncut viper]

ive gotten AVEs just from using SMAPI events to access menu data, are we even 100% sure its a harmony thing

[lucid iron]

I had an ave with vpp the other day and that's what fixrd it

[calm nebula]

You have what

I'm gonna old man shake my cane at a cloud

[lucid iron]

It's cus that's 4 letters

Goes with ModEntry.help

[uncut viper]

in the past ive tried to add shop modifiers to items directly in the ShopMenu after a MenuChanged event and gotten an AVE when i tried to do so

[calm nebula]

Terrifying

Where did the ave orginate

[uncut viper]

this was like... a year ago now. i dont remember

but it was consistent

i think ive also gotten it before when trying to modify CollectionsPage.collections?

less sure on that one

[calm nebula]

Anyways. Irrlicht, try removing any other mod, rebuilding mmap from source, or, heck, adding any random mod

I've only gotten ave when it was obviously my fault

[uncut viper]

ive never tried to access anything i shouldnt be allowed to so im never at fault

👼

[lucid iron]

The reason why the config might help is cus it turns off a particular harmony patch

[lucid comet]

for now i'll probably remember to just poke the console while it's doing it's thing ... new/updated mods will be there soon enough, probably

[calm nebula]

I enjoy your sense of humor

[lucid comet]

i dont really needed a fix, i just wanted to understand whats going on here and why ^^"

so tyvm for all the info on ave funsies

[gentle rose]

I think I finally managed to set everything up to build aseprite from source (knock on wood and all that)

[blissful panther]

Why is this one tile not animated?

[gentle rose]

neither is the middle bottom one

[uncut viper]

water doesnt move north/south, just like real life

physically impossible

[blissful panther]

I don't think the bottom one is on the old water edge tiles either, because the water edge isn't visible because perspective.

[brave fable]

well ackshually in sdv the water only flows south-to-north

[uncut viper]

are you 100% certain its even water

[humble timber]

wh

[brave fable]

you didn't notice? 😌

[blissful panther]

Counterpoint: 1.6 waterfalls.

[brave fable]

merely a cunning act of deception. a stage curtain of water, if you will

[blissful panther]

AAAA NO.

[calm nebula]

Uh

[gentle rose]

dh is very passionate about water

[blissful panther]

That one isn't either!

[calm nebula]

Do i need to call 999

[left nova]

I mean, water falls, not flows.

[calm nebula]

I like the little faces

[gentle rose]

[calm nebula]

My dear iro was having fun with tilesheets the other day

[gentle rose]

I'm not sure I'm "dear"

[calm nebula]

Have you realized tilesheet metadata isn't consistent from map to map yet

[brave fable]

counterpoint: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/11790

[gentle rose]

we've spoken about it, yes

[calm nebula]

Speaking of "dear", happy birthday!

[brave fable]

yeah the dark waterside tiles are only animated in the mountain, and the light waterside tiles are only animated in the forest and town