making-mods-general

[round timber]

hmm how many wips do i have... i guess it depends on what you call a wip

[torpid sparrow]

I have five not including my existing mods that have wip updates

[twin wadi]

(I know but I started relatively recently compared to you guys )

[true coyote]

It's blueberry! Hiii

[round timber]

ur speedrunning!

i have 8 wips though im not actively working on most of them right now

[proven spindle]

I've got 4 plus a few mod updates I need to make to existing ones

[steep cairn]

new here and not sure if this is the right place for this question. What is the easiest way to change the world date (to like summer 1, for instance)? I am pretty confused on whether I need a mod, or I can do it with chat cheats, or something else

[round timber]

if youre asking from a player perspective #modded-stardew would be better, but CJB Cheats Menu is probably the easiest way of doing what you want

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #6520 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1400296683551588503)

[gleaming cave]

Is there a simple way to reorganize how items appear on the collection pages (shipping, cooking, etc.)? I'm working on a mod and the new items/recipes default to appearing ahead of vanilla items. I was hoping to adjust the order, but I'm having a hard time finding information on how.

[uncut viper]

nope

[calm nebula]

What is your spritesheet name

Where did i park

Where am i

[brave fable]

on that note, i wish it was easier to reorder special items/powers entries, but it's not a list so everything just goes in insertion order

[uncut viper]

fun fact blueberry, you saying that a little over a year ago is literally the reason i made Special Power Utilities

[calm nebula]

Times flies when you're having fun

[uncut viper]

also spritesheet name doesnt matter at all why did you ask that atra

[calm nebula]

It does! For shipping

Doesn't for cooking, I think cooking just hates moss or smth

[uncut viper]

it literally just grabs Game1.objectData.Keys

[gleaming cave]

My spritesheet's just named Objects.png. How does it affect the order?

[calm nebula]

Yeah but doesn't it sort by spritesheet name to put 1.6 items later

(I found my car)

[uncut viper]

no

the only thing it sorts is flavoured items

or things that can be flavoured

i.e. wine, pickles, jelly, juice

i take it back, i do see the orderby now

ill be honest, i just wasnt expecting to see orderby in ILSpy

in that case you can make them appear before all 1.6 items or after all vanilla items but you won't get any more granular than that

[hard fern]

Doesn't it sort by ID...? 🤔

[uncut viper]

by tilesheet and ID yes

but you cant insert between two vanilla IDs

unless you wanna fuck up all of springobjects

more accurately, it sorts by spriteindex on the spritesheet

[humble timber]

the thought of that is certainly. something.

surely fucking up the order would work fine

[uncut viper]

it just happens that spriteindex lines up with spritesheet from when IDs were ints

lines up with ID*

[humble timber]

out of curiosity, to any of yall who do map stuff. how do you normally go about planning maps... im about to just sketch this out in a sketchbook or something, lmao

[brave fable]

sketch, draft with flat colour and no detail, plop in single sprites for important things and walkways, detail, iterate, reiterate, reiterate, remake, reiterate,

[calm nebula]

Go hiking. Look at a tree irl

[tender bloom]

Mashing together existing maps

Lots of editing

[hard fern]

My map designs come to me in a dream

[humble timber]

lol

[brave fable]

don't even think about foliage and cliffs until you're 250% satisfied with the actual map layout and travel times

[humble timber]

okay that's fair yeah

...
oh god im gonna have to test vanilla walkspeed eventually

[brave fable]

a lot of people seem to start with edges/outlines for cliffs and whatnot, which i've always seen as a massive waste of time and a roadblock to reiterating the design/layout

[hard fern]

[torpid sparrow]

i just block things out on a test layer

[brave fable]

imo beginning with blocks/silhouettes is just as important in maps as it is in objects and buildings

[torpid sparrow]

it looks horrible and messy and then i clean it up until i have a bit of a guideline

[hard fern]

i kinda just take like, a water edge tile or a cliff tile and sketch out the general shape of where i want things

[twin wadi]

Would setting the scale to 0 cause an error for the MMAP TV property?

[humble timber]

might try a test layer for blocking things out that sounds useful

[brave fable]

yeah layers are your friend. you can just put your big building sprites on a layer each and move them around until they look right

[torpid sparrow]

i think you saw my incomplete map with the huts just making general shapes of my other huts

[humble timber]

thanks for all the ideas. gonna go ahead n sketch some vague ideas and block it out in tiled later

[torpid sparrow]

thats just what i do lol

[oblique meadow]

Wing it until I don’t hate it

[brave fable]

tip: ctrl+mouse2 will select the uppermost tile layer with a tile on the position you clicked at, useful for quickly swapping layers without navigating to the layers panel

[humble timber]

lmao

ooh thank u

man, tiled is reminding me of when i learned live2d for the first time.. many features....

[oblique meadow]

Making your own farm?

[humble timber]

except not as in depth user manual,

at least not for my usecase

[torpid sparrow]

I just realized I forgot about walk times err

[humble timber]

spoiled by l2d

Lmao

[torpid sparrow]

Is there a tile to time ratio

[humble timber]

Good q
all i know is it takes like 2h to get from farm to like. the museum/beach..?

i might be misremembering

[hard fern]

I made my maps beeg... Im just going to do something to make the player faster lol ..

[brave fable]

good question, but i haven't bothered thinking about it, since maps are generally fairly winding without a clear linear route from A to B (and players are going to want to go to DEFGH before they even think about B)

[oblique meadow]

I’m going to start putting land mines in my farm maps. Like just one or two. But if the farmer steps on them… BOOM

now to figure out the coding…

[calm nebula]

There is a tile to time ratio and no i don't know it

[torpid sparrow]

Oh wait I meant for NPCs but that would also be no I suppose

[uncut viper]

its usually just slower than you need it to be when you wing it

source is trust me

[torpid sparrow]

Thank you 🤍

[tiny zealot]

all i can tell you for sure is in events at default speed, NPCs take 500 ms to move one tile (move or advancedMove)

[twin wadi]

Mod testing is off to a great start. It won't even show up in the Stardrop list of mods.

[torpid sparrow]

ty! that helps

[twin wadi]

Uh. Is the file structure or naming wrong in any way? Also the manifest file... https://smapi.io/json/manifest/cf8d086f567e49a992fa2ae22ee919d2

[torpid sparrow]

is there something wrong or are you just confirming

[brave fable]

it's standard for your first version to be 1.0.0

[torpid sparrow]

the actual folders look fine to me but yeah ^

[brave fable]

version 0 would be for something that doesn't exist

[twin wadi]

ik it was just a placeholder while it's a wip basically, i did that for my other mods and it worked?

[torpid sparrow]

(did bot maintenance just get a role icon? or have i just completely missed it for all this time)

[twin wadi]

It won't show up in Stardrop

[torpid sparrow]

it still works its just a convention

i dunno about stardrop tho

[brave fable]

aquo wanted a stupid computer icon or something

stole my pants

[twin wadi]

I'll try changing it to 1.0.0... justttt in case

[torpid sparrow]

oh right!

could say youve been pantsed

[twin wadi]

OHHH it's because I was just copy pasting from another wip and forgot to change the id

this just proves that i really do need sleep...

[calm nebula]

Pls

Sleep

Modding will be here tomorrow

[twin wadi]

no

uh... anyone know why the mmap stuff aren't working? am i doing something wrong https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/bd0a08c3bfcd4cf68894fd5d0e39ba72

[twin wadi]

solved - i hadnt updated MMAP

[gentle rose]

evidence you need to sleep

[calm nebula]

Happy birthday, iro!

[twin wadi]

um instead of sleeping i added some configs! woohoo! except they no work sad
can anyone tell me why smapi mad at me
json: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/48e212a2c3b141bfb79deacc1ca1eb0c
(cuz im using the stardrop console on mac workaround, the log doesn't appear in ErrorLogs... sorryyyyy!!!!)
this is the error though:
[Content Patcher] Ignored I Need Sleep - Awesome Radio Mod > Add furniture data: Entries > '{{ModId}}_Radio' value is invalid: '{{RadioColor}}' can't be used as a token because that token could not be found.

[lucid mulch]

that error doesn't match the json you posted

[twin wadi]

oop wait i mustve hit ctrl+z

[round timber]

also you can use a config as a token, so setting up the dynamic token with it isnt strictly necessary

[twin wadi]

hmm i was thinking how to like, go from "gray" to the index "1" and vice versa for pink

[twin wadi]

(editted with the correct json)

[lucid mulch]

did you patch reload when adding the dynamic token?

as dynamic tokens (and config) doesn't reload iirc and needs an actual restart

[twin wadi]

oh... lemme restart

um, good news, smapi isn't yelling at me. bad news, the config doesn't change the color....

[torpid sparrow]

what time is it for u sugar

[twin wadi]

its only 9:21pm... but idk if its the depression meds or something but ive been sleepy all week so okay i am really sleepy so i will sleep

[brave fable]

back again with more silly maths given a point P at d distance along a line T-O, how might i position P1 and P2 at the respective pink circles (s distance from P at 90deg/270deg relative to m)

simple trig i'm sure but i want to eat lunch today

P1 and P2 are blue squares, P is red square, O is middle of click

goal is to position blue squares in pink circles

[lucid mulch]

given a unit circle, sin(A) is the y coordinate of a line intercepting the circle from origin at angle A and cos(A) is the x coordinate

[calm nebula]

That clock is upside down

[humble timber]

i
what is happenitn in here

im scared

[brave fable]

also note that goal positions aren't following the curvature of the clock (ie. distance P1-O is not equal to distance P-O)

they're strictly relative to P instead of O

[gentle rose]

are the pink circles meant to be on the circumference of--

nope

[calm nebula]

I would be more helpful if my phone wasn't telling me to go to sleep by going into greyscale

So I literally can't see

[brave fable]

thank you for trying

[lucid mulch]

my trig brain wants to say tan is the answer

[twin wadi]

hello im texting while totally sleeping. you should sleep atra

[lucid mulch]

but if you dont want stuff to follow the circle anyway, trig is kinda out the window anyway

[gentle rose]

give me a second I need paper for this

[lucid mulch]

though I guess if you have P1 and P and know S, you should know enough info to infer the missing coordinate

[brave fable]

i don't have trig brain, so i wouldn't know how to apply tan in this case. i'm going to go out and buy a banh mi while the class works through the exercise 😌

[gentle rose]

time to reearn my maths degree

[brave fable]

just imagine all the career opportunities opened up once you've solved for P1 and P2

[lucid mulch]

you know all the angles of the triangle and 2 points so should be enough

I just cant remember which operation gets back the coordinate again

life is easier as its right angle triangles

treating it as vectors, s as a vector going from P to P1 would be - large X, + small Y (-30.1, +7.55)
and you want to move that vector clockwise, which changes (x,y) to (y, -x) so the (-30.1, +7.55) becomes (-7.55, -30.1)
add that to P and that should get you that top circle of ~ (108.26, 218)

bottom circle is a counter-clockwise 90deg rotation so (x,y) becomes (-y, x) so its (+7.55, +30.1) for the bottom circle of ~ (123.36, 278.2)

[gentle rose]

why does this have s and d being the same

[lucid mulch]

I blame blueberry overlaying this on top an intersection with a circle, and having a bunch of extra info and doing the example on an annoying angle.

the problem is so much simpler when you delete T, O, d and the background circle and just want P1, P2 relative to P to be rotated

[gentle rose]

(yes s should be 32 in that graphic as far as I can tell)

from the coords given

[lucid mulch]

P1 = (85.71, 255.65)

P = (115.81, 248.10)

X = P - P1 = (30.1, -7.55)

Y = P + X' = 115.81 - 7.55, 248.10 - 30.1) 
Y = (108.26, 218)

Z = (115.81 +7.55, 248.1 +30.1) = (123.36, 278.2)

was my working out

and yes I transcribed P wrong which is why my numbers are off slightly but the process is fine I think

mixing math brain that wants positive Y going up, to blueberry's numbers where Y goes down also hurt my head a bit

[gaunt orbit]

x = c.x + cos(a)*r + cos(a + 90°)*R

• c is centerpoint
• a is angle
• r is radius of main circle
• R is 1/2 distance between the two target points, or the dist of the target points from the center line.

Obviously convert degrees to rads and use sin instead of cos for y

At least I think that should work

And then for the other side you'd do the same but minus 90 instead of plus 90

[tender bloom]

This is why it should be two cosines

[gaunt orbit]

Basically you just need points on a circle that's offset by the point on another circle

[tender bloom]

Hard to draw on the right place, but basically to get x, y coords you just need to break down your triangles here

AKA i think wren has it

[gentle rose]

fun fact: this can be done without any trig in the final equations

[lucid mulch]

as the points of Top circle, P1, p is making a right angle triangle of angle 45deg

and once you agree its 45deg and tan=1 a lot cancels out

[gentle rose]

and yep, same results for this specific instance!

[lucid mulch]

I personally do find the comedic irony in Sin(Z) using the vector approach instead of the sin() and cos() approach

[gentle rose]

anyway without using any trig:

Q = (T-O)/|T-O|
P1 = (-sQ.y+dQ.x,sQ.x+dQ.y)+O
P2=(sQ.y+dQ.x,-sQ.x+dQ.y) + O

where |T-O| refers to the distance between T and O ofc

[gaunt orbit]

Linear algebra, fancy

[gentle rose]

is it?

[lucid mulch]

well its not exponential

[gentle rose]

this is probably just what sinz wrote but applied to the general case tbh

[lucid mulch]

yes

and in more programmy syntax over math

[gentle rose]

but did you make a fancy graphic on desmos making sure it works?

that's because I entered it on desmos before doing this haha

[lucid mulch]

I only use desmos to graph the probabilities in runescape these days

[tender bloom]

Somehow my brain just clicks better for vectors, but I automatically mentally ascribe them to being sin and cos? Too many free body diagrams warping my brain

But I also considered trying to build the rotation matrix version

Just too lazy to remember the format

[gentle rose]

fancy desmos video showing it in action for moving T

[lucid mulch]

At least when you think of vectors as mini triangles with rise/run y/x values, instead of as angle and magnitude

[gentle rose]

these were my horribly written workings out (with like three mistakes in them)

it’s terribly written in this case but that’s how I approach problems like this haha

[brave fable]

ok i've got my banh mi what is going on here

[gaunt orbit]

Vector math

[lucid mulch]

see I took advantage of the fact that blueberry already had points P1 and P2 on the line and used them as part of the solution rather than defining P1, P2 from scratch in the desired locations

[gentle rose]

#making-mods-general message

[gaunt orbit]

Sadly my grasp of linear algebra is not very good

[gentle rose]

I assumed that since the problem didn’t describe them as fixed, we were meant to work them out on our own

[tender bloom]

Nerdsniping

[hard fern]

Banh mi sounds yummy

[lucid mulch]

3 different people with 3 different set of notation getting the same answer

[tender bloom]

I sort of wish I had a banh mi right now, but it’s also bedtime

It’s probably the right answer, even!

[brave fable]

this is ctf_face levels of nerdsniping. absolute nerd warfare

[tender bloom]

Given that multiple people got the same answer

That’s the motto by which I grade homework

(Jk, but I do keep tabs on it)

[gentle rose]

I love throwing stuff in desmos. I even make 3d wireframes in 2d desmos

[hollow dust]

hey guys, can I get a little help-, im kind of having troubles figuring out how to fix my content.json

https://smapi.io/json/none/b2802e7dd3694ac2a98c56b0ad3a604c

here's the link, i suck at understanding what's wrong💔

[uncut viper]

you didnt close the EditMap patch on Line 36, you need one more }, just before Line 43

[brave fable]

finished my banh mi and the solutions worked exquisitely

went with trig in the end despite the brain problems

beloveds

[hard fern]

So was banh mi the solution all along

[brave fable]

banh mi is a fine contender with pizza for thoughtful & healthy balanced meals

[gentle rose]

when you release this I'm going to harmony patch it to use my method /j

[lucid mulch]

I'll harmony patch your harmony patch to make it do my method

the harmony patch arms race is for silly spiteful things like this

[brave fable]

write your method in valid c# and i'll use it

wonder which if any ends up more performant. probably the linear algebra

[hollow dust]

yo, didn't know my reply didn't send- very sorry for this late response🙇

THANK YOUUUUU sooooo muchhhhhh🗣️🗣️, it's finally fixed noww:D been stuck on that problem for a good hour cuz🤷, xDD thank you thank youu

[lucid mulch]

whatever logic you had to calculate the delta between P and original P1 and P2, swap the x and y coordinates and make y negative

[brave fable]

unfortunately, this is not valid c#

[bleak spade]

Can you make custom trees go transparent when you walk behind it, like with normal SV trees?

Preferably using Tiled

[lucid iron]

Just make custom wild trees

As in add them via Data/WildTrees and everything

[gray bear]

[bleak spade]

Sorry to ask obvious questions but is that adding them to the vanilla files or do I create a new json in the mod asset folder?

[lucid iron]

New json or no unimportant, need to add an EditData patch

[gray bear]

i uhh have been trying to fix my mod so it plays well with overgrown valley but, after resizing and doing, many other things is seems like the issue is overgrown valley loads when u start the save but tsp loads, the day after

resetting the trees with rtf doesn't fix it either, so i'm guessing i'd need to talk to lune?

[lucid iron]

Do the edit that bonks the tree path tiles separately from the market stall?

[gray bear]

[lucid iron]

Your case looks like overgrown valley is just doing its patches later regardless

[gray bear]

nah other way around, trees were there before stall spawns

[lucid iron]

Yeah then do that for safety

[gray bear]

i will take a look at market stall

[lucid iron]

Also consider the betas traction that clears terrain features

[gray bear]

from a certain area?

[gray bear]

which mod is that,,, i fear i do not know things

[lucid iron]

Just do editmap for no stall no tree phase

[lucid iron]

Yes gib rectangle

[gray bear]

i don't know how to do that
wdym by rectangle?

it's a 6x6 square

[hard fern]

A square is a special type of rectangle

[gray bear]

u aren't wrong

i haven't modded in like years my brain is mush

and idk about adding yet another depend

[hard fern]

I misread that as fish

[bleak spade]

I've made two custom maps for the town and the forest, and as an experiment I changed the season to Fall

On the town map the tiles have changed to autumn, but the Way Back Pelican Town tiles haven't loaded

[gray bear]

if it was a fish perhaps it would swim around and i could brain

[hard fern]

Go to sleep

[bleak spade]

But when I go to the next screen my custom Forest map still has the spring tiles, but autumn trees - and the Way Back Pelican Town tiles are there

[gray bear]

uh,,,

see u only changed those maps to fall

which means the game still thinks it's spring

i think? hmm

unsure how way back handles it

[bleak spade]

I've slept and the Town mod still has the vanilla buildings

[gray bear]

wonder if there's a conflict

[lucid iron]

https://stardew.button.gay/docs/betas/tractions#ClearTerrainFeatures

ill reiterate what im suggesting for clarity

[bleak spade]

What's annoying is that it didn't do this before, but I've messed with something

[hard fern]

Hm do you by chance have the vanilla tilesheets still in the folder?

[bleak spade]

In my mod folder? No, but I only have the Spring tiles in there. Maybe that's it?

[hard fern]

Yeah

[obtuse wigeon]

Yep that's probably the issue, I did that a couple times with the same issue

[lucid iron]

1. pure vanilla solution, do an unconditional editmap on the part that need sushi stall and remove all tree spawning path tiles, it gets trickier if there is also the tree spawning map prop though
2. BETAS (a framework) has a traction that behaves like RTF but you call that and it applies on just one rectangle (x y width height)
3. Tell people to use RTF, but again you still need to do the map prop fix

[gray bear]

oh wait.

how would i go about doing the first thing?

[lucid iron]

Have a no sushi stall version of the tmx

Again you gotta figure out what's making the tree grow n make sure they are not there on game start (i do not know since i haven't looked)

[hard fern]

The trees on overgrowns maps are all on paths 🤔

Ok well i can answer the first one in more detail methinks.

It's harder when i have no visuals but

Wait hmm editmap via content patcher or tiled

Maybe i shouldn't try and answer this when im tired

[azure hound]

overgrown was a personal project that i released to the public, so tbh i didn't take into consideration literally any expansions that i wasn't using

[hard fern]

hi lune

[azure hound]

hihi

but you're right, the trees are placed with paths

[hard fern]

While you're here, is it alright that i kinda munched on the cliff in the forest to patch my map into 😔

That area above the mastery cave

[azure hound]

if you want to make mods compatible, feel free to do literally anything!
i was so overwhelmed with the potential mods i would have to patch that i just chose not to do anything in the end

[lucid iron]

i think fleurine lives there maybe

[hard fern]

Oops. Oh well 😔

[lucid iron]

pelican real estate market continues to be terrible

[hard fern]

If that ever becomes a problem for future me I'll just. Worry about that in the future if i have to

[gray bear]

hey lune, lovely mod. and not wanting to patch is fair, i'll uh figure it out

[gray bear]

so since it's paths,,, how do? im sorry if im bothering u chu i literally don't fucking know

[azure hound]

hello!! i'm so sorry i'm not much help! overgrown was my first time ever using tiled, so i also don't really have the skills to create patches admittedly

i'm just a clothing gorlie idk what the heck else i'm doin'

[gray bear]

yeah me neither, no worries

[hard fern]

Ok well at least for the tiled version i just took a chunk of the area i wanted to patch over, slapped my stuff on it, then editmapped it back in

[lucid iron]

paths is just a map layer

remove those tiles in ur patch

[gray bear]

i have removed everything

in my patch

it's just the stall

empty

or do u mean i need to edit overgrown somehow

[hard fern]

You don't need to edit overgrown no

[gray bear]

my map experience starts and ends in cropping a part of a vanilla map and putting a tilesheet in

[hard fern]

what days is sushi lady at her stall again

[azure hound]

i'm not sure if this helps, but for overgrown i didn't really change a lot of the map. i just added bits to it, for decoration
the vanilla map should fit into that section, so the problem should just be the paths/trees

[gray bear]

tuesday and saturday

i don't know how i'd make my map patch remove the paths & tree

[hard fern]

oh

i see the problem

give me like

[gray bear]

ty forsy

[hard fern]

Also: the size of your patch rn will result in a tree being directly in front of your stall

[gray bear]

oh?

whys that

[hard fern]

Even if the tree inside it is removed

[gray bear]

should i shrink it down

[hard fern]

tree number 3

[gray bear]

oh no

should i make it bigger then,,,

gosh darn tree

[hard fern]

I think you can use content oat to yeet that one tree

[gray bear]

?

[hard fern]

Sorry, typo

Content pather

Patcher

[opaque field]

If implementing a 'dreams/dreamworld' system would it be better to have it use OnDayStarted or OnDayEnding?

[hard fern]

Hmm 🤔

Can you elaborate

[opaque field]

I'm trying to create a little system that adds "dreams" for the player when they go to bed (some of the maps are interactive where they can move around but not all of them)

but I don't know if it would be better for it to go off right before the day starts or right as the day 'ends'

[unreal spoke]

Probably the latter, right? From a user standpoint, anyway.

[opaque field]

that's what I was thinking but, I wasn't sure

C# and hooking into stuff like that is fairly new to me, but I thought a dream system could be neat T.T

you get a little witch's eye in the mail after you meet the wizard for the first time and it unlocks the chance for dream appearances of a 'dream world' you can explore or 'dreamwalk' into the dreams of other people

[dusky sail]

if it wouldnt add too much difficulty id add a config option so the player can choose whether to do it at day end or day start

[brave fable]

i made a similar concept as my last mod, for simplicity's sake i just added my events to the FarmHouse events list so they play on day started after saving
https://github.com/b-b-blueberry/Halloween2024/blob/master/ContentPack/content.json#L69-L81

it'll be before the game fades in again, so provided you didn't just load the save you'll go fade-to-black -> summary screen -> saved -> nightmare

[opaque field]

ooooh, that's really cool! I like that.

[brave fable]

pretty sure you'll need C# to be in a walkable location though, took me a while to figure that out

[calm nebula]

It's not much c#

[opaque field]

That actually works great since I'm trying to use this to flex my C# muscles

[brave fable]

the mod's here if you want a quick playtest to see how it ends up, you'd just type debug ebi Custom_blueberry_H2024_1 in console to play the first event, or just set the date to fall 2 and go to sleep

[calm nebula]

https://github.com/atravita-mods/StardewMods/blob/alpha/SlightlyMoreDehardcoding/EventCommands/PlayerControl.cs#L1

[lucid iron]

Hm what if you just morning event warp the player to a location

And the location itself has a exit warp to bus

[brave fable]

sounds alright if you can block time from passing and you want them to have a full inventory

[lucid iron]

Dream caused me to oversleep

[brave fable]

i only needed them to be able to walk and collide with walls for the halloween maze dreams

which was surprisingly impossible with pure content

[opaque field]

I can imagine! Currently the dreamworld has one little place to run around, but there's a little event you get with a "welcome to the world of dreamwalking." and then you can explore the zone all you want and when you want to return (ideally) you go to the warp spot and boom you're in the farmhouse

like with the day starting at the usual time

[brave fable]

minor hitch: warps don't work while in event locations

[cold marsh]

Is this the correct way to edit an existing shop's dialogue without deleting everything else? I can't tell if I'm supposed to target one layer deep into Dialogues or if this works { "Action": "EditData", "Target": "Data/Shops", "TargetField": ["<shopID>", "Owners", "None"], "Priority": "Late + 100", "Entries": { "Dialogues": [ { "Id": "<dialogueID>", "Dialogue": "<dialogue>" } ], }, },

[opaque field]

hm. well maybe I'll designate the witch's eye as a warp totem? or make a warpout totem?

[brave fable]

which is covered by this harmony patch and the use of an action tile

minor hitch: you can't access your inventory in event locations

[opaque field]

oh geez. right

ty, I'm gonna go do some more reading/research and go from there

[brave fable]

yeah i stepped on all these rakes last year hahah

you really do just go from one rake to another, to another, to another

i'm sure there's better solutions to the same rakes though, i threw this together in a couple days for the halloween contest deadline

[hard fern]

yahoo

this removes two trees, one inside the stall, the other right in front

the grass is still there but it's just grass

            "Action": "EditMap",
            "Target": "Maps/Forest",
            "MapTiles": [
                {
                    "Position": {
                        "X": 49,
                        "Y": 73
                    },
                    "Layer": "Paths",
                    "Remove": "true"
                },
                {
                    "Position": {
                        "X": 49,
                        "Y": 76
                    },
                    "Layer": "Paths",
                    "Remove": "true"
                }
                
            ],
            "When": {
                "HasMod |contains=lune.overgrown": true,
            }
        },```
i just stuck this little bit of json into it

(you have no reply @ so im just gonna hope you find this later)

[opaque field]

I love the analogy of stepping on rakes XD Cuz that is exactly how it feels sometimes.

[violet valley]

Hey guys! Does anyone know how to fix the message showing up when i go to my TouchAction door thingy? (I dont know what to call it) It just says "It's locked..." I'm using the Adventurers Guild monster slay quest door thing as a place holder.

[hard fern]

uh

[gray bear]

thank you so much forsy!!! also u can tag me for these things, sorry i missed it

[hard fern]

o

[gray bear]

[hard fern]

oki

[violet valley]

if someone responds i may not respond im going afk

[hard fern]

what exactly do you want the touch action to do?

[violet valley]

i want it to show my message if you havent dont my quest, but im gonna use ConditionalDoor PLAYER_VISITED_LOCATION Current ScienceHouse as a placeholder for now.

[brave fable]

could you try with Strings/1_6_Strings:guild_door instead of the \\\\ version?

[violet valley]

yeah

thats just how it was in the adv giuild

*adv guild

[brave fable]

also, is your LockedDoorMessage tile object on the Back layer specifically?

[violet valley]

yes, is it not meant to be?

srry i havent modded in a minuite

minute

[brave fable]

yep, it's meant to be on Back

[violet valley]

ok. it still says "It's locked..."

[brave fable]

yeah checking out the code it looks like it'd give you a bad string if the value didn't lead to a translated string, which means it's just not identifying your tile property at all

[violet valley]

how do I fix it?

do I use i18n in some way?

[brave fable]

depends how you broke it

[violet valley]

oh

k

[brave fable]

nono, the text doesn't matter. it just doesn't see/care about your tile property

[violet valley]

ohh

[gentle rose]

can you send your map file? maybe we'll spot something in it

[violet valley]

yes

the thing im trying to fix is at the bottom

[brave fable]

odd, it looks right

[violet valley]

Hmm

[brave fable]

interesting that the adventureguild map has both the Buildings Action LockedDoorMessage and Back TouchAction LockedDoorMessage on the same tile

[violet valley]

That's odd

[brave fable]

i guess it stops one player from opening the door and another from walking through after

[violet valley]

Oh

I'm confused is that why it's not working?

[brave fable]

nope, it's just that they also have a physical door, though the touchaction code looks like it should behave fine without one

too late at night for me to work it out though

[violet valley]

Ok

[calm nebula]

And you get the channel tk do late night trig

I still don't understand what you were trying to do

[violet valley]

Me?

[calm nebula]

Blueberry

[violet valley]

Oh

[gentle rose]

I assume more minigames to show off over the rest of us, smh my head blueberry

[calm nebula]

Now that I'm awake I think bluebs wanted a parallelogram

[brave fable]

it's all very simple

[hard fern]

Geometry

[gentle rose]

@cold marsh moving here so we don't clog the 1.6.16 thread, but Owners is a list of entries. You can specify multiple NPCs and/or a ClosedMessage

(btw, feel free to ask here if you aren't sure if something works!)

[gentle rose]

fäshiøn

[brave fable]

trashion

[calm nebula]

Oh you want a diamond

[red egret]

When i want to upload a new mod, how do i determine the update key when i haven't got the mod id yet?

[calm nebula]

You can start yhe page and then add the modid

[red egret]

So it would be an immediate update

[gentle rose]

they're a blueberry's best friends

[iron ridge]

no, you're given a mod id when you finish the first tab (mod details) on nexus

so you can just add the mod id before uploading your first file

[vernal crest]

It's not public until you publish it

[iron ridge]

but you still get a mod id

[torpid sparrow]

take it from the url

[gray bear]

do i need a new game for this?

also anyone know of a way to remove the grass actually

[round timber]

i assume you mean from an author perspective instead of player? in that case BETAS can do that

[hard fern]

Uh. Hm that's odd. The tree should be one tile to the right

Also the grass is also just on paths

[gray bear]

😕

[hard fern]

I didn't remove it because it wasn't actually an obstacle, and it's easy enough for the player to scythe it away. You could add a few extra blocks of json removing each tile of grass if you want

[gray bear]

how do the MapTiles thing work

[hard fern]

It's on the content patcher documentation

[gray bear]

alrighty, will go look

[hard fern]

I don't know enough to really explain it properly.... I just copied it off of another mod i made

With the maptiles thing you can also remove that extra tree

[gray bear]

i see, ty

will experiment further

[red egret]

Oooo perfect then!

[gray bear]

am fixed

still many tree but def better. ty again forsy

[gray bear]

welp, ive broken it again... idk how to fix
log: https://smapi.io/log/a6efb964168949b9a995335540ac8cca
if anyone can tell me what it means

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26100.0, with 20 C# mods and 3 content packs.

[gray bear]

(please ping me if u know)

[delicate smelt]

hello everyone,i need help,theres a weapon in my mod,i wanna this weapon has cascader,bug killer,and vampire enchant when get it,and when use this weapon,combat level+5,how to write the code?

[fair locust]

Well, I was originally planning to wait until I reached perfection on my current save before I started writing mods... but the inspiration and excitement about modding is starting to really hit hard. I still want to make progress in the actual game, and I don't want all my SDV freetime to go into modding, but idk how reasonable it would be for me to successfully split my time between the two and do both things at once. Idk, we'll see ig

[hard fern]

I spend more time modding than i do playing the game

Such is the cheeto curse

[opaque field]

I feel personally attacked by this.

[fair locust]

lmfao

I mean... do you at least enjoy it?

[opaque field]

I’ll start to play and then I get ideas or me and someone were talking about how you want character expansions but none of the ones you find are exactly it so you make it but then you hate your own writing after reading it so many times. So you don’t wanna play with that either 😂😂😂😂

Always worth it

I love it so much

It has brought me immense amount of joy. I finally got my blueberry cream cheese recipe to work in my machine

[fair locust]

ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

[opaque field]

Right??! Now I can just copy and paste until I’ve made as many unholy concoctions as I can think of

[fair locust]

i know it's entirely plausible that i will sink waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too many hours into modding.....

[hard fern]

I have 2k hours on aseprite im pretty sure

[opaque field]

Only after 6 months am I just now finally finding a decent balance.

[hard fern]

Only 1.5k on stardew

[fair locust]

asperite? is this something i should know about?

[opaque field]

It’s a pixel art program for the pc that people use 🙂

[hard fern]

Im always using it for something mod related lol

[opaque field]

SAME. Ok except kinda halfway to make an animation but the animation has Shane in it so it counts imo

[fair locust]

ahhhhh. i don't currently plan on making anything that would require me to make art. art has never really been one of my strengths

at least one of my former ideas is officially Lost To The Void

[hard fern]

Where did it go....

[round timber]

did you mean to post this here? either way, we've got a rule on english only text/images

[fair locust]

krobus ate it

[hard fern]

Oopsie

[fair locust]

For those of you who do somehow do manage to strike a good balance between modding and playing - how????

Okay, Apple’s new AI autocomplete can seriously die in a hole

[brittle pasture]

fun fact, most dont

cheetos not playing the game is a meme for a reason

[hard fern]

😔

Youd be hard pressed to find one who plays the game on a regular i bet

[tender bloom]

I mostly remember to play the game because I play with my husband

So I guess my hot tip is to get married to someone who likes playing stardew

[fair locust]

math friend??????????????????????????????

[tender bloom]

I never promised helpful advice

[fair locust]

well then - how much time do you all dedicate to your mods?

[tender bloom]

At the moment, not very much. When I was very active, several hours a day but not every day

[fair locust]

i have plenty of freetime currently, i'm a student but only part time, it's just a question of how i use that freetime...

[tender bloom]

Covid was a great time for never leaving the house and making tons of mods

[hard fern]

Considering i think about them in my sleep, time dedicated to brainstorming is included 🤔 so probably the majority of my time....

I will admit i have way too much free time on my hands though

[tender bloom]

Honestly, i think making mods is a more fulfilling use of time in some ways, because you learn new things and stretch your creativity. Playing the game is fun too and it’s good to have some activities that give you a break from thinking really hard. Where the balance between these two lies depends on a lot of personal factors.

[fair locust]

That makes sense!

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #6521 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1400510949495930890)

[tender bloom]

It’s hard to fit in a lot of mod making time around a full time job for a lot of people, so I think a lot of people here are students or dip in and out depending on how life is going or have some other situation in life

Noooo Atra is quoting me

Or they’re inhumanly good at things, like pathos

[fair locust]

Personally, part of the reason I'm interested in modding is because I'm already involved in tech. I'm a computer science student and eyeing jobs in data. I want to get some more experience in actually making things and stretching those muscles a bit. And when I think about things I would want to make... well, I have a few standalone ideas, but since I love stardoo so much, why not try my hand at making mods?

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #6522 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1400512628681609421)

[tender bloom]

Seems like as good a reason as any!

[gaunt orbit]

farm maps r hard

so much has changed since the last time I did one. There's a lot of new tiles and my standards have gone way up

[hard fern]

Number one reason im never making one im impressed by everyone who does

[gaunt orbit]

Kisaa is a fucking wizard with maps

[gray bear]

bump ig

[calm nebula]

CA made a bunch of really nice bridge tiles in 1.6

(Well. Someone on the team.)

They are nice regardless who made them!

[reef siren]

Are there any mods that utilise TemporaryAnimatedSprites within their cutscenes/events? I need to use one but before I make my animated sprites I wanna try and figure out how they work :00 best way is often just looking at pre-existing code I feel

[tender bloom]

I have a TAS in my Fireworks Festival event but I used C# to define a new event command for it

The game itself uses some TAS but again some of that is hardcoded

[reef siren]

Ah darn hmmm

[tender bloom]

TAS is both an event command and a whole bunch of C# code

The event command exposes the same options as some but not all of the C# code

[reef siren]

So hmm… say I wanted to make a character like lay down horizontally, but show them actually getting there is TAS even the way to go???

[calm nebula]

Use a temp actor

Those can be arbitrary sized

[reef siren]

Ah I avoided that initially as it confused me haha! So Temp actors can work with the animate command then? :0

[round dock]

Can I ask an extra pair of eyes to assess if my trigger actions are coded correctly? So, an event is triggered once the player reaches certain milestones and when they do, a prompt is fired once they arrive at their farmhouse at 7pm or later asking the farmer w/n they want to "read" or start the event. The player has the option to watch the event "later" and I've attempted to code my trigger actions in such a way that if the farmer reaches all conditions and chooses the latter option, they can still get the prompt the following day and the event is marked seen once they picked the first option ("read"). However, upon playesting, two events which are supposedly marked as "seen" after choosing the read choice are replayed again the following day.

[gentle rose]

show code

[round dock]

            "LogName": "Grandpa's Intro Letter",
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/TriggerActions",
            "Entries": {
                "{{ModId}}_GrandpaIntro": {
                    "ID": "{{ModId}}_GrandpaIntro",
                    "Trigger": "DayEnding",
                    "HostOnly": false,
                    "Condition": "!PLAYER_HAS_SEEN_EVENT Current {{ModId}}_GrandpaRead",
                    "MarkActionApplied": false,
                    "Actions": [
                        "MarkEventSeen Current {{ModId}}_GrandpaIntro false"
                    ]
}```

[gentle rose]

[round dock]

THERE YOU ARE

(hi)

[gentle rose]

(sup)

[gentle rose]

you don't have a condition for them picking the second option

[round dock]

AH

SO THATS WHY

(i will refrain from greeting you for one day as a sign of gratitude)

[brittle pasture]

cant help but there's this

#making-mods-general message

you can also try button's map fixing tool thing

https://stardew.button.gay/tools/mapfixer

[bleak spade]

I'm getting this error, does anyone know what it means?

[game] Location 'Forest' ignored path tile index 34 (spawn tree) at position Static Tile Index=34 BlendMode=Alpha because the tile has no 'SpawnTree' tile property.

[royal stump]

tree tiles on the Paths layer also need to have the SpawnTree tile property, described at the bottom here
https://www.stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps#General

(or rather, paths tile 34 specifically does, 9-12 and 31-32 don't*)

[opal tendon]

when it comes to larger objects like furniture how do you do the coordinates like the cat perch in furniture_3?

(for content patcher)

maybe I understand actually

I will try

nvrm I don't understand

[hard fern]

Which part dont you understand specifically

[opal tendon]

unless I do? you just break each "square" up?

have to do each squares coordinates?

like part 1, 2, 3, etc of the piece?

[hard fern]

No

[opal tendon]

okay

I don't understand at all

[hard fern]

The sprite index is based off the top leftmost tile of the texture on your spritesheet

[brittle pasture]

instead of patching a 16x16 square you can patch 32x64 or whatever sizes

[hard fern]

(wait are you not making new furniture)

[opal tendon]

no I am editing

coloring over

[hard fern]

Oh ignore me

[opal tendon]

so then do you make the grid that size or how does that work

[hard fern]

Wait also you're looking at the wrong page

[round timber]

if youre recoloring you shouldnt have to worry about sprite index right? 🤔

[opal tendon]

well shit

[hard fern]

You're reading the page for making new furniture, so i got confused

[opal tendon]

no wonder its not working

no wonder Im confused

[brittle pasture]

(I recommend using an editor that has a grid settings + show coordinates for selection)
(GIMP for example has this, which is so convenient)

[opal tendon]

Im just trying to apply what I know for other recolorings lol

[brittle pasture]

(you literally just select a rectangle and it tells you the xy coord + size)

[round timber]

aseprite has something similar!

[hard fern]

All you need is the coordinate of the very top left pixel of the texture if you're just patching a spritesheet. using the marquee tool + snap to grid will get you the right area so you dont have to do the math

[opal tendon]

like this? but maybe better

[round timber]

youre also selecting parts of the other furniture

[hard fern]

You're a few pixels off

[opal tendon]

but better

[round timber]

then yes

if you fix the box it should be good

[opal tendon]

like this

what numbers are what

183:188 xy thing?

[round timber]

seems like it

[opal tendon]

and then [this is height and width]?

[round timber]

i dont think so because that would mean the sprite is over 400 pixels tall

[opal tendon]

oh

hmmm

[hard fern]

Yeah something is wrong

[opal tendon]

darn

[hard fern]

That sprite is only 32x48

[gentle rose]

are you using photopea?

[opal tendon]

Piskel

[gentle rose]

I wouldn't really rely on online editors for most of this kind of thing tbh

[opal tendon]

oh ok

what was that free alternative to asperite

[round timber]

libresprite?

[opal tendon]

maybe I will try that

now is that right

[round timber]

have you upscaled the image?

[tiny zealot]

(C#) do farm animals ever jump? i finally figured out why the physics are different when throwing them with tater toss, and it's because in their draw code they double the y jump offset for secret reasons.
does anyone know if it might cause unforeseen problems if i fix this by un-doubling it?

[brittle pasture]

I think swimmers do a lil leap when entering/exiting water

[gray bear]

this is why me and tiled are getting a divorce

[brittle pasture]

!gs @rose flint

[ocean sail]

If you would like a guide to setting up mods for Stardew Valley, check out the getting started guide! https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide

To use this command, type !gs.

[brittle pasture]

wait wrong command

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[gray bear]

ty selph for linking (did take a few tries to get the correct one, discord be damned) and button for saving me once again

[brittle pasture]

depends on what kind of mod you're trying to make, for the most part you can get by and even make entire expansions with pure json content mods

[gray bear]

are bushes also paths,,,

[brittle pasture]

think so yes

[rose flint]

thanks so much

[gray bear]

what r u

guess not a path

[gentle rose]

-# if you're having issues with tilesheets have you considered testing out my tiled extension

[gray bear]

i am listening

[gentle rose]

https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1399862293331972246

[gray bear]

do you happen to know how i can remove a bush with cp as well or is this a solve one problem thing

v cool ty

[gentle rose]

this is a "make tilesheets just work in tiled" thing

[delicate smelt]

need help about this!i dont know how to write the code,lot of thanks

[gray bear]

v helpful if i ever get brave enough to map again

otherwise im just kinda

[uncut viper]

BETAS has a trigger action action for it

bushes are generated via paths

[tender bloom]

I think this one is either the smallest bush from Paths or the extremely similar bush that's just a static bush off the tilesheets

[uncut viper]

once a location has been made and saved the bush is now a terrain feature

and no longer changes with the math

the map

[tender bloom]

you can have fake bushes and real bushes on the same map

[uncut viper]

i blame someone for that typo

[gray bear]

blame me im easy to blame

[tender bloom]

if you shake the bush does it rustle?

[gray bear]

betas seems very cool button but another dependency ,,,,h

[gray bear]

it do

[uncut viper]

well then you have no other options

there is no other way to remove a terrain feature via CP once it has already been generated on the map. you will have to tell your users to install and use Reset Terrain Features, a different mod, to do so

or just deal with the bush

[gray bear]

i see

thank u

[fair locust]

i need y'alls advice... i do have programming experience, just no modding experience. should i start with a simpler mod that will be easier to make as a nice entry point to modding, or should i start with a more complex mod that i'm more passionate and excited about?

[uncut viper]

depending on what your idea actually is, you might not need anything that is typically considered programming and can maybe just use content patcher

so it may be easier than you expect

[brittle pasture]

third option: pick one simple task from your idea and implement it as your first mod

[fair locust]

yeah, i'm aware of that too. i don't know for sure whether these ideas will require real "programming" or not

[uncut viper]

neither do we until you say it so its hard to give advice

[fair locust]

yeah, that does make sense

[uncut viper]

many people have many different definitions of what is a complex mod vs a simple mod

and often times what people think is simple is actually complex to do and vice versa

[fair locust]

"complex" for me means multiple features, configurable options, and a bigger to-do list for things i want implemented

[tender bloom]

configurability is often pretty easy to add

[uncut viper]

the "features" in question are what id be curious about to really be able to give advice

[gentle rose]

it would help to know what the actual idea you have in mind is

[tender bloom]

a little tedious if you want a ton of options but often not complicated at all

[lucid iron]

Complex is not as important as have fun

[fair locust]

Gotcha

[uncut viper]

goodbye march

[fair locust]

Thanks guys

[gray bear]

so,,, i am now using betas. im assuming if i wanna remove a bush that just a bit farther than the stall i just increase the range

[uncut viper]

yeah just use a bigger rectangle

[gray bear]

im going to defeat that bush. thank you 🩷

[gentle rose]

button have you considered turning your map fixer into a tiled extension? they're literally just a js script

[uncut viper]

i have

[blissful panther]

*repeats Stardew Tiled extension suite idea*

[uncut viper]

a Tiled script cant eventually tie into my tutorials though where i explain what the errors were/how to read them/how to prevent them

[gentle rose]

hmm

it sort of can? it can have very flexible popups with those explanations

[gray bear]

why,,, is my goddamn letter not sending

[delicate smelt]

seems im not been /ignore ed,but can anyone help me about this........

[round timber]

postal service is on strike sorry

[uncut viper]

iro i made an entire site with custom everything for my docs for my mods and tutorials. do you really think i want just a pop-up

[blissful panther]

It also might expose Qt's WebView? https://doc.qt.io/archives/qt-5.15/qtwebview-index.html

[gray bear]

i didn't edit itttt

who stole my mail

[tender bloom]

unfortunately i do not know the answer

[gray bear]

i also think im bad at math

[gentle rose]

tiled doesn't expose much of Qt except for one module iirc

[blissful panther]

C++ extension it is, then! /j

[tender bloom]

the wiki does not seem to describe a way to add enchants to a weapon by default via CP https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Weapons

but I am not up on the latest 1.6 weapons stuff

[uncut viper]

also my site can accept as many maps at once as you wanna throw at it, will make backups of them all, you can selectively apply the fixes, and you can do this from anywhere as long as you can upload the .tmx
also, the output looks cooler

[gentle rose]

yeah it only exposes QtQml

[gray bear]

maybe i need to reset terrain

consider the bush was there before?

[blissful panther]

"2": {
  "Name": "Dark Sword",
  "DisplayName": "[LocalizedText Strings\\Weapons:DarkSword_Name]",
  "Description": "[LocalizedText Strings\\Weapons:DarkSword_Description]",
  "MinDamage": 30,
  "MaxDamage": 45,
  "Knockback": 1.5,
  "Speed": -10,
  "Precision": 0,
  "Defense": 0,
  "Type": 0,
  "MineBaseLevel": -1,
  "MineMinLevel": -1,
  "AreaOfEffect": 2,
  "CritChance": 0.04,
  "CritMultiplier": 3.0,
  "CanBeLostOnDeath": true,
  "Texture": "TileSheets/weapons",
  "SpriteIndex": 2,
  "Projectiles": null,
  "CustomFields": null
},

This is the entry to a sword that has vampiric by default.

Since there's nothing in the data, it's probably just done in code.

[gray bear]

bush gone! mail back

grass does look a bit weird with overgrown but i suppose i can make a seperate recntangle so it only doesn't spawn inside the stall

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-emperors-new-groove-its-all-coming-together-gif-12813012

is grass a C# class type

[opal tendon]

not that I know of

[uncut viper]

it is actually yes. i believe its called Grass

[delicate smelt]

this is the weapondata,noticed there is no info about enchants,but when u get dark sword,it has a default vampiric enchant,so what s the code to make a weapon has enchants when get it?

[blissful panther]

It means you'll need custom C#! There's a general primer on making a C# mod on the wiki, but it won't teach you C# if you don't know it already.

You'll need to decompile the game to figure out exactly what you need, too.

[uncut viper]

do note that in 1.6.16, whenever that may be, you will actually be able to spawn weapons that come with enchantments pre-applied

[opal tendon]

do I need to do something special here to make sure its the right size?

(in libresprite trying to figure out how to do furniture from earlier)

and or can someone help me with another way to figure out how to replace the cat tree

[gray bear]

cat tree?

[opal tendon]

yes this

in the square

[gray bear]

oh!

[shy harbor]

What's wrong with it? /g

[gray bear]

which file are you editing?

[opal tendon]

I cannot figure out its coordinates

to use with content patcher

[gray bear]

im unfamiliar with libresprite but uh. when u hover ur mouse i believe it's the number next to the + at the bottom

what you need is the start of it (upper left corner) and end of it (lower right corner) so it covers the entire object

[opal tendon]

what is the height and width stuff

oops

I @

sorry

[gray bear]

it's alright

if there is an option anywhere to show a grid that'll help

but every one of those squares is 1x1 in height and width

so it's 2 width 3 height

[shy harbor]

You might just be able to do the top left corner coord and then specify the height and width with it (That's what I did when replacing item textures)

[opal tendon]

now I got grid

ohhhh

do I do 2 and 3 x 16 still?

[gray bear]

nice! it's easier to see what size it is now

nope, that's only for x and y. 2 and 3 is good

[opal tendon]

and then is my mouse in the right spot for the coordinates does it matter?

[uncut viper]

are you trying to edit the texture itself? you do need to multiply by 16 if so

[opal tendon]

yes

[gray bear]

you need the coordinates for the edit.

yeah for the texture what u i usually do is select the entire object, copy it and then paste into a new document

[uncut viper]

(the coordinates are not multiplied but the width and height will be, to clarify)

[opal tendon]

okay

and is the coordinates right based on where my mouse is?

or would I move it one pixel over or

[gray bear]

so here

the coordinates i want is the red one. it needs to be at the edge of the selection

i swear there was a way to make selection stick to the grid to make this easier, i forgor it

[blissful panther]

(Shift +S!)

[opal tendon]

do I need to add anything else?

[shy harbor]

Maybe I need to be using that software for stuff, the alternating color squares seems really useful lol

[gray bear]

ty DH! unsure if that works in lib as well but if it does it helps the selection

[gray bear]

i believe so? width needs to be 2 and height 3

[opal tendon]

I thought Button said to multiple by 16

[uncut viper]

2 and 3 would be incorrect

the textures are not 2 pixels wide and 3 pixels tall

[shy harbor]

I think it goes by singular pixels, not groups of 16

[gray bear]

oh

[uncut viper]

if you were editing the Furniture data there might be a place where you use tiles instead of pixels but idk furnituredata

[gray bear]

ah i was confusing that with map edits, sorry!

[gray bear]

for just editing the texture that's perfect

[opal tendon]

perfect ty!!

[tiny zealot]

(transpilers) hey friends what is the CodeMatcher/CodeMatch incantation i need to match this instruction: ldloca.s 0?
i can't compare the operand (object) to 0 directly (won't compile) and my attempts to cast it die at runtime:
new CodeMatch(i => i.opcode == OpCodes.Ldloca_S && (byte)i.operand == 0), gives
---> System.InvalidCastException: Unable to cast object of type 'System.Reflection.Emit.LocalBuilder' to type 'System.Byte'.
similar casts have worked for float arguments in other patches so i'm ready to believe operand is simply the wrong approach to check for 0 on this instruction

[uncut viper]

do you specifically need to match 0 to prevent matching on a different ldloca.s?

[tiny zealot]

yes, but i can probably widen the match if necessary to avoid this particular problem

[karmic gust]

I'm having trouble editing the warp into Elliott's house. I've added a locked door warp from the beach, but it's still warping the farmer to the original warp location, and I'm still able to exit through Elliott's house original warp despite editing that warp as well (in both the map properties in tiled as well as a patch in the json)

Here is the json file (relevant lines start on 319):
https://smapi.io/json/none/25281ba90e444852832972697427720c

and here is the map properties for Elliott's house

I feel like I'm missing something probably obvious but I'm not sure what

[uncut viper]

if you cast it to LocalBuilder can you check its LocalIndex

&& i.operand is LocalBuilder builder && builder.LocalIndex == 0 or smth

alternatively does new CodeMatch(OpCodes.Ldloca_S, 0) not just work

[proud wyvern]

please don't match by local indexes

[calm nebula]

It's a localbuilder

[red egret]

Why do people write
"FromFile": "assets/{{TargetWithoutPath}}.png"
when it works just the same when i write the file name there?

[uncut viper]

because you can put multiple targets in that same patch

[round timber]

^

[uncut viper]

"Target": "MyAsset/One, MyAsset/Two, MyAsset/Three",
"FromFile": "assets/{{TargetWithoutPath}}.png"

this will load One.png, Two.png, and Three.png all at once to their relevant assets

[gentle rose]

is there a reason why not? out of curiosity

[red egret]

oh for more pictures

[uncut viper]

not just pictures

[tiny zealot]

even without multiple targets, it's also nice to only have to change one string if you rename the source file for any reason

[red egret]

right

thats clearer now, ty

[proud wyvern]

they can easily change between game versions

[karmic gust]

aaaa I'm dumb. I set the warp condition to having read the house upgrade letter, rather than just having it

[gentle rose]

isn't that true for everything with transpilers? /gen

[uncut viper]

an entire transpiler can also easily need changes between game versions, so when the game is not undergoing rapid iteration i just consider it an acceptable cost of writing a transpiler

(that said, i do usually avoid using the index if i can avoid it)

[proud wyvern]

also Harmony/MonoMod is dumb and sometimes will just let you mismatch a type for a method you call, and suddenly you get garbage in your parameters

this could lead to silent errors if you're matching by local index and the locals change

[uncut viper]

(actually apparently ive always avoided it, the one time in my github i see that its not avoided is... not even mine. its a fork lol)

[proud wyvern]

best case scenario it throws AccessViolationException, worst case it continues as if nothing happened but the logic gets wrong

[gentle rose]

oh is that one of the sources of the random harmony AVEs? interesting

[gaunt orbit]

I use contextual matches when possible but sometimes there's just not enough context to match without hardcoding

[tiny zealot]

answering this question: no

[proud wyvern]

i usually match by local variable types, it's usually good enough

[uncut viper]

someone oughta tell that to the person i forked cuz thats where i got that from

(/j)

[tiny zealot]

well, it's possible i beefed it in some other way cause i got a different runtime crash which probably means it didn't match

[gaunt orbit]

Also last time I mismatched parameter types I ended up with fun things like an EngineExecutionException or we it's called

[tiny zealot]

so either i need to redo my match list anyway or it didn't match the instruction

[proud wyvern]

if you do want to continue using local indexes, i have some code for that, but it's my own lib for writing transpilers:
https://github.com/Nanoray-pl/Shrike/blob/master/Shrike.Harmony/ILMatches.cs#L267
https://github.com/Nanoray-pl/Shrike/blob/master/Shrike.Harmony/ILMatches.cs#L139
https://github.com/Nanoray-pl/Shrike/blob/master/Shrike.Harmony/CodeInstructionExt.cs#L11-L66

could it be done better? maybe

[tiny zealot]

i'm indifferent, tbh. the nature of transpilers is that you inherently depend on the existing contour of the function, so like button/iro said i consider breakage on game update to be a fact of life

[proud wyvern]

i just prefer to know that my transpiler didn't match, instead of having to test every single one on an update

i have too many mods, and in turn transpilers i rely on in them, to do it otherwise
...which probably might be a reason NOT to use Harmony for everything, but i still feel that's better for mod compat

[red egret]

I need to find a mod that changes overlays on demand, to study. i want to make pictures and want the player to be able to choose the frame colour from GMCM, is it possible?

[tiny zealot]

you could have a dropdown with a bunch of specific choices but i don't think GMCM has any kind of color picker widget, if you were imagining free-form

[red egret]

no, there are premade colours

[tiny zealot]

you could throw something together with like RGB sliders and a swatch but you're getting into complex widgets for that

[red egret]

or frame types

not that much freedom XD just to pick between white/blue/gold and plain/decorative for example

also those would apply to all pictures of that kind in the house, huh?

[calm nebula]

Gcmc Options bas that

[rapid pond]

if it's just a dropdown to choose (e.g. choosing whether the frame is oak, walnut or birch), my S&S paintings mod has it

[red egret]

i was looking at yours, viki, but i need something different, i think. yours has all the frames in one pile and mine are in a grid and just 1 will be chosen from a particular spot (like when i do furniture)

and ideally those would be tiered, like
choose blue/pink/green
and another dropdown would choose shade 1, 2, or 3

im boiling my brain how to do this XD

[lucid iron]

Just make separate furniture tbh

[red egret]

all the combos? there would be hundreds

[steady idol]

Hi, does anyone know a mod for random items or any other drop and crafting?

[lucid iron]

Isn't it just 9

Or ig you are just give example

Anyways config tokens is the correct approach here just let people pick from drop down

Being in a grid doesn't matter since you just editimage

[red egret]

ok i will try to look up info on that

[balmy valve]

why schedule dialogue not showing up on schedule day

wai hangon

[balmy valve]

fixed it >:D

[opal tendon]

how do I make my CP mod into an AT mod?

[uncut viper]

you'd have to rewrite it as an AT mod, they're two completely separate formats and functions

[opal tendon]

how does AT work?

I can't find a wiki for it

[lucid iron]

What is the mod you are trying to AT

[opal tendon]

this one I just posted today someone asked if I can make AT https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/36209?tab=description

[uncut viper]

the Nexus page for it would be a good place to start as it has a link to it's GitHub wiki

[opal tendon]

perfect ty

[brittle pasture]

(biased opinion but I would have just made those separate furniture items from the vanilla cat trees)

[opal tendon]

how do you do that

that sounds easier maybe

[brittle pasture]

[[Modding:Furniture]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Furniture

[brittle pasture]

EditData, target Data/Furniture, insert your entries

[opal tendon]

can you show an example

I am confused

[brittle pasture]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Making_Custom_Furniture_With_CP

it is quite long admittedly, there are probably example mods on Nexus you can reference

the basics for furniture adding (or any mod that adds new stuff to the game) is the same: You use EditData, target a game asset, and insert a new entry into it

the only thing that differs between adding furniture, or NPCs, or machines, or mail, or maps, is what asset to edit and the shape of the entry you insert into it

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/33602?tab=files one pretty straightforward mod I found (download the "No Catalogue" version)

[brittle pasture]

ok I found a quick example I wrote up some time ago: #making-mods-general message

it didn't help the last person I sent it to but maybe it could help you

[opal tendon]

like this?

wait

theres still something I need to change oops

instead of color tho maybe I would insert the color and do it over and over per color?

[brittle pasture]

1. the first field should be {{ModId}}_fairycatperch instead of {{ModId}}/fairycatperch. this is because furniture data considers the slash to be a field delimiter. it should be identical to the key too
2. cattree is not a valid type, change it to decor
3. yeah you can add all 4 variants instead of using a {{Color}} token, just align them side by side in the sprite sheet and then use the correct sprite index for each

otherwise looks good

[opal tendon]

is it better to do {{color}} or each color?

[opal tendon]

like this?

[brittle pasture]

one last thing: in the image load you loaded your texture into a texture named {{ModId}}_fairyperch, the texture field of furniture data must be that as well

ie. change {{ModId}}\\fairycatperch to {{ModId}}_fairyperch

[opal tendon]

then its all done after that?

[brittle pasture]

think so, feel free to test by spawning an instance in CJB item spawner or the furniture catalogue

(ignore everything I just deleted I misread my own guide)

[brittle pasture]

can you post your code again

[brittle pasture]

you didn't change the texture field at the end of the string

[latent mauve]

It's looking for {{ModId}}/fairycatperch right now, but that's not what you loaded to.

[opal tendon]

the what

oh

I had it written that way twice aparently and fixed only 1

hmmm

now is it good cause same error?

[latent mauve]

Your last field in your furniture entry should be {{ModId}}_fairyperch, I think?

[opal tendon]

oh

[latent mauve]

(Sorry to crash your conversation, Selph)

[opal tendon]

same error

[latent mauve]

I'm gonna count your fields, gimme a minute.

[twin wadi]

sorry to interrupt, but shouldn't there be two more fields at the end often left blank?

[brittle pasture]

they're optional

[twin wadi]

ah okay

(disregard that )

[latent mauve]

do you mind putting your json in the validator?

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[latent mauve]

Field count seems okay from what I can tell, though

[brittle pasture]

did you make sure to reload and spawn a new instance of the item

[latent mauve]

oh, good call

[opal tendon]

https://smapi.io/json/none/581aa57a49cb40b584d9da44b5d8ea53

[opal tendon]

I haven't spawned one yet I just close the game reopen it and search for perch and the moment I load in it gives the error and the search is still a x'd out thing

[brittle pasture]

you havent changed the last field in this code

!hotreload also for your convenience

!reload

[ocean sail]

How do I reload my changes while I'm still in game?

• Content Patcher pack: enter patch reload <your_mod_id> in the SMAPI console window. This will reload and reapply all your patches (but won't recalculate the ConfigSchema or DynamicToken sections if you use them).
• Translation files: enter reload_i18n in the SMAPI console window. If it's for a Content Patcher pack, also run patch reload afterwards.
• C#: see the Visual Studio hot reload or Rider hot reload feature.

To use this command, type !reload.

[uncut viper]

(i feel like hotreload should be an alias for that command)

[opal tendon]

oh I guess I didn't hit save 🥲

Im so used to the old one autosaving

[urban patrol]

also, are you intending to only offer one color at a time?

[opal tendon]

I have 4 colors

[urban patrol]

yes i know, but do you want people to be able to have multiple cat trees of different colors at the same time

[opal tendon]

yes

someone asked for AT but then Selph said I could make them a standalone thing so I thought maybe that was easier

[brittle pasture]

yeah one step at a time

[urban patrol]

okay because right now you only have one texture

oh sorry i didn't know you weren't there yet

[opal tendon]

it has the same error and this time I realized it also says this

[brittle pasture]

oh yeah delete the token and just load the file name exactly

[opal tendon]

https://smapi.io/json/none/e3091e8f31ef4273bdd6c34d213b6740

one sec let me figure out what a token is again

[brittle pasture]

token = {{color}}

[latent mauve]

things in {{ }} are tokens

[opal tendon]

perfect ty

just repalce it with one of the colors?

[brittle pasture]

yeah

[opal tendon]

IT WORKED

and I think I know what to do

right right?!

[brittle pasture]

you need to pick a different Target for each file

[opal tendon]

oh

[brittle pasture]

and use that Target name as the texture field at the end

[opal tendon]

so the bottom one do that for each one but different?

[brittle pasture]

alternatively you can merge them into one tilesheet and change the sprite index

[opal tendon]

like this?

and or numbers instead of pink

[brittle pasture]

the key (the part before the colon) and the name (the first field in the value) must be unique as well

also you can merge them into one Entries dict

[opal tendon]

like this?

[brittle pasture]

(I gotta run real quick)

but yeah like that (assuming the texture name match)

[violet valley]

Is there a way to make an event only trigger if you've been to a certain area? Sorry I'm new to modding events lol

[torpid sparrow]

Ermmm mayhaps HasVisitedLocation?

[violet valley]

Ok

I havent modded events before so thats probably a dumb question

[torpid sparrow]

You should look at the content patcher documentation

See what can be done under “When”

[violet valley]

Yeah i was abt to. Just was clarifying

Ok

[latent mauve]

Could potentially use the GameStateQuery event precondition, combined with the GSQ for PLAYER_VISITED_LOCATION <player> <location name>

[violet valley]

Ok. Yeah was thinking of doing that

[red egret]

you have a colourful code

how do i get that?

[brave fable]

looks like VSCode with a bracket pairing extension installed

[latent mauve]

VSCode does that by default for me without anything else installed as long as I've chosen the correct language when making my files.

[red egret]

ai code editor??

[lucid iron]

Yeah Microsoft is all in on that

You can get vscodium instead, it is the no microsoft flavor

[red egret]

ty

awesome, much easier to spot mistakes

[rich tapir]

hi, my warp isn't working in my content patcher mod, from forest to my npc's house

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/3d9a352bf1d9418784190a8eb026a578

[red egret]

why does it say Comments are not permitted in json?

[iron ridge]

because they're not

[red egret]

i used them so far o.o

[iron ridge]

it's just that the version of json smapi uses allows them

!vscjsonc

[ocean sail]

How to make VSCode not scream at json comments

In Visual Studio Code, go to File -> Preferences -> Settings, then search for "associations", and in the "Associations" setting, click the Add Item button to add an item with key *.json and value jsonc (see image).
If you are making a content pack for Content Patcher, you should consider using its json schema so that VSCode can tell you if your patches are valid, you simply have to add

"$schema": "https://smapi.io/schemas/content-patcher.json"

at the start of your content.json file.

To use this command, type !vscjsonc.

[rich tapir]

hi, my warp isn't working in my content patcher mod, from forest to my npc's house
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/3d9a352bf1d9418784190a8eb026a578

[lucid mulch]

note doing the schema will also solve the comment and trailing comma screaming, jsonc isn't required

[red egret]

the format is red

comma where?

[urban patrol]

typo line 67

[rich tapir]

okay i fixed the warp but when i walk in the house, i get teleported to gunthers

[urban patrol]

does your map have warps in the map properties

[rich tapir]

huh

my map has warps from the house into the forest and the forest into the house

wait in tiled

[urban patrol]

did you use a vanilla map as a base? they have map properties you’ll need to look at

yes in tiled

[rich tapir]

okay i checked and i removed the custom propertires

[latent mauve]

Did you open your code with the { before Format and the } after the ] behind the Changes?

[red egret]

um...

[gaunt orbit]

missing , at the end of the schema line

[red egret]

ahhh ty! darn commas

[crude plank]

it's missing in the command as well

[red egret]

where?

[crude plank]

oh no, i just meant it's missing it the governor's message

[red egret]

oh phew lol

it also doesnt like the "FromFile" line

i tried the other way and it didnt help

[iron ridge]

what's it saying about it?

[lucid iron]

If it's yellow i think that's a schema bug rn

[red egret]

Matches a schema that is not allowed

[crude plank]

it is yellow you can see it here

[opal tendon]

so like the reason my two rabbits mods can't work together is because of this specifically (I think) but what does this texture stuff mean can I change it to something else easily?

[lucid iron]

Aren't these both your mods

[opal tendon]

yes but I edited them from someone elses mod

I only edited the texture pixel art

[uncut viper]

i think chu's point is morel ike why do you have two different mods loading to the same target instead of one mod

bc thats the issue, not the Texture line

[opal tendon]

oh cause idk how to make it do both at the same time

people have asked to use both at the same time

but idk how to do that which is what I want to do

previously people said I can edit something in the text to make them both work at the same time that's what I am trying to do

I need to do it to my cats too but I just had them replacing a cat but someone wants them to be their own thing too

is it the same as the cat trees I did earlier?

is it the same as making new furniture?

[uncut viper]

im a bit confused, are these two rabbit mods already published, and the issue is when they are installed at the same time? or do you only have two separate mods right now because that is what you were attempting to do to split them