making-mods-general

[calm nebula]

I'm knitting a gay sock

[golden basin]

I probably will soon I just need to stop looking at ftm for now my heads hurting

Is there a way to spawn things without seasonal conditions

Like forage, I'm doing a custom mine full of like fossils and I'm trying to figure out a way to spawn things

[royal stump]

forage always uses seasonal lists (it's a very old formatting mistake), so you'll need to copy-paste the same items into all 4 of them for year-round stuff

[golden basin]

Oooh I didn't think of that actually

[royal stump]

ironically that's slower in the HTML editor than just opening the text file, but you can mix and match at least

[golden basin]

Have you ever considered simplifying ftm?

[royal stump]

yep, currently working on a whole CP-based setup with a new format

[golden basin]

Oh shit that's awesome

[royal stump]

which I'd intended to do for like 3 years but am actually writing now

[golden basin]

How's that going I'm curious

Id love to test things too Keep me in mind hehehe

[royal stump]

currently it can spawn simple objects via trigger actions, but I've still got some code setup and other actions to do (furniture placement, every aspect of monsters, etc)
but here's a silly test from a few days ago

"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Mods/{{ModId}}/FTMTestStuff",
"Entries": {
  "Example_Entry": {
    "Trigger": "Esca.EMP_OneSecondUpdateTicked",
    "Condition": "Esca.EMP_IS_PLAYER_FREE",
    "CustomActions": {
      "Example_Action": {
        "ActionId": "SpawnObject",
        "Settings": {
          "Location": "Farm",
          "TileCondition": "CAN_PLACE_ITEM",
          "Item": {
            "RandomItemId": ["(O)420", "(O)206","(O)16"]
          },
          "MinTimes": 100,
          "MaxTimes": 100```

[golden basin]

That's great omg

Honestly ftm as it is now is so detailed that I struggle seeing the text. I've poor vision so after a while things start wiggling hehe

I like this new one a lot more it's so compact

[royal stump]

yeah, the old format has a bunch of limitations, mostly because I didn't know what a content pack was for like 6 months

[golden basin]

You still did amazing work though

[royal stump]

I should still make it stop auto-updating files on load, so people can use comments & exclude unused settings like CP, but the code's messy

[grizzled rain]

does anyone know how to add Item Extension ore nodes to a custom location using content patcher? I can't find any documentation on it.

[hallow prism]

!vmv

[ocean sail]

Visit Mount Vapius (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/9600) is an expansion mod that adds a new region in the mountains. Accessible by train, you'll enter the hamlet of Glimsap, with its tight-knit group of villagers, that holds a market twice a week. You'll get to explore new places, fight monsters, get new crops and forage, trade local coins for exclusive goods, and complete tasks to unlock special items, including machines, buildings, and animals.

To use this command, type !vmv.

[hallow prism]

But i cant help more

Im on phone

Look are ore.json and locations.json

[hallow prism]

I spawn several nodes this way

Some i spawn with ftm

[grizzled rain]

thank you sm!

[balmy venture]

guys, how hard would it be to make a machine or something of the sort that collects items on the ground? Like any item

[gentle rose]

like rokugin's Collector mod, basically?

it took c# so not trivial

[gentle rose]

(forgot to reply)

[balmy venture]

let me check this one

oooh I had never seen this one!

I'm gonna test it and see if it works to what I wanted to do

oh, ugh, it doesn't collect what I need sadly

back to squad one

square*

[gentle rose]

what do you need it to collect? it collects pretty much everything afaik

[mighty quest]

How to check if the player can go to the desert? (C#)
Was it a mail flag?

[mighty quest]

Doesn't Deluxe Auto Grabber?

[balmy venture]

@gentle rose I will send you a screenshot, I'm working on a chest sort system with the mods I have, I use Junimatic to collect items and take them from machines to chest and Stardio to get them from outside the house to inside

[calm nebula]

Please insert the "it's always a mailflag" meme

[balmy venture]

I tried, it only grabs farm type items

[mighty quest]

Is it ccVault flag or is there something better?

[balmy venture]

I might try to go from Deluxe Grabber code, maybe I can modify it to work

[mighty quest]

I'm sure it just filters by item category or type

If you just change the filter it should be easy to modify

[balmy venture]

ya that's why I was asking, I'm thinking of trying to read the code and find out how to modify it

[mighty quest]

As far as the game is concerned, all placed items are just entries in GameLocation.Objects.

[mighty quest]

Indeed I found it
if (Game1.MasterPlayer.mailReceived.Contains("ccVault"))

[balmy venture]

I'm trying to read the deluxe and understand the logics, I'm a little slow so it will take time, sorry to bother you guys

this is the example of the items. I'm not sure if when they are in belts they count as a "machine item" or just the same as an item on the grouns

ground*

when I try to grab the items I get this error so Ithink it needs code change

oh this is vacuum grabber btw, I also tried deluxe, no results either and the code for it is closed I think

[royal stump]

that's presumably happening here because a Tool is an Item, but it's not a StardewValley.Object

[balmy venture]

I have no clue why it's trying to grab a tool to be honest

apparently shears, which are not even in this building

[royal stump]

the utility methods like "for each [thing]" tend to be overkill, e.g. that one's probably finding shears in your inventory or a chest

[balmy venture]

I see, but then ya, the items on the belts are probably not normal then but specific from that mod since the grabber didn't register it, I will keep trying some other way then

thank you, sorry to bother you all with stupid questions 🥲

[golden basin]

is there a content patcher method to spawning monsters

[calm nebula]

No

Actually maybe

Try spacecore

[golden basin]

they never despawn tho

and they keep spawnin

from what ive saw I tried hard to figure it out

[lucid iron]

Ftm is still best option atm then

[golden basin]

ftm scares me weh is currently doin it

i figured out ftm so far >: 3

[long jungle]

Hello everyone. I need a bit of help. How do I make this translation section show up on my mod page at Nexus?

Do I need to do anything or will it automatically appear once a translation mod pertaining to my mod is uploaded by someone else?

[long jungle]

This is the translation section/tab of SVE, as an example

[calm nebula]

It will appear when someone uploads a translation for your mod yes

[long jungle]

Okay, thank you! I asked because someone uploaded a translation mod but it didn't get linked. They are pretty new at translating so I think that's why. We'll look into it, thanks!

[royal stump]

having recently helped someone with one, it can take several hours for nexus to actually list a new translation in that tab

[long jungle]

I see, thanks for the heads up!

[long jungle]

Also now that you're here, I'd like to thank you for your mods. They are amazing 😄

[royal stump]

glad to hear it

[golden basin]

okay i might need help how do i make a dungeon with spacecore? im struggling with making the like elevators work

actually nevermind i got a different idea

[humble timber]

i haven't looked into this like. at all yet. but what frameworks would i be looking at if i wanted to make a museum area to donate items/artifacts to? or is this gonna need C#....

[round timber]

button has a mod for that! https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/34530

[humble timber]

YIPPEEE okay awesome

i figured there was probably something

[lucid iron]

Kath has a small mod using it should be good sample

Besides cmf there is also option of unlockable bundles

Just depends on what kind of ux you are looking for

[humble timber]

hmm... i dont really have any plans for bundle stuff, i think cmf is gonna do exactly what i need

[vernal crest]

There's also an example museum in the optional downloads for CMF

[humble timber]

i seeee tyty

[vernal crest]

(Which I made, so if you download it and find any part of it confusing please feel free to ping me about it)

[humble timber]

of course!! i probably won't be working on this for a little while, just wanted to know what my options were!

[vernal crest]

It's a great framework! I'm working on an actual mod for it as well as the example one I made.

[hard fern]

why am i in map string hell now

[humble timber]

f

im in random item sprite hell

[vernal crest]

Why is it hell? /gen

[hard fern]

there are so many

so so many

it's all on me though bc im the one making these maps

it just never ends lol

[vernal crest]

Ah I see. At least with copy and paste it's just a case of copying the object and adjusting the ID slightly

[hard fern]

i like when you can click on stuff around the house and learn a bit more about the people living there

[torpid sparrow]

It’s my faaaave

I overload my maps with map strings

[valid folio]

Hi! A quick question: What’s the maximum length a sprite sheet can have? I mean, the highest value for the sprite index, I’m not sure if I’m being clear.

[vernal crest]

I don't know that there is a hard limit we know of. What's the sprite sheet for?

[rigid oriole]

Doesn't content patcher have some image size limit

[uncut viper]

4096x4096 is generally considered the safe upper limit

its what the game defines as the max size

the actual max size depends on the users hardware

[hard fern]

🤔 so if you ran stardew on a nasa Supercomputer....

[vernal crest]

For a 16x16px spritesheet, that gives a max index of 65,535

[valid folio]

My question is because in the Wildflour’s Atelier Goods mod, the sprite sheet for objects is 16 slots long, meaning there are 16 objects, while in the Cornucopia Artisan Machines mod, the sprite sheet is 20 slots long, meaning 20 objects.

[uncut viper]

(also i should clarify when i say "its what thje game defines it as" that doesnt necessarily mean it enforces it. theres just a (practical) const somewhere that has that as the number set, just not used for anything as far as i can tell. but im sure there must have been a reason for it at some point)

[valid folio]

So we could say that the length in slots doesn’t really matter.

[vernal crest]

The game's own Maps/springobjects is 624px tall so it's 39 rows of 16x16px tiles

Well there is a limit as Button mentioned but you'd have to be putting a lot of stuff on a single image before it started to matter, I think

[valid folio]

Ok, I understand, thank you very much!

[vital lotus]

Any idea on 4x4 map that's relatively safe to patch for a trailer? 🤔

[hard fern]

Uhhh honestly

No clue

😔

There's so many npcs and stuff that like to patch part of the map

and ive kinda claimed a little spot for my future npcs too

[vital lotus]

@uncut viper i tried working on something for the BETAS feature I suggested. Made PR and hopefully it could be of use ✌️

[vital lotus]

so many indeed... then there's map rework but that's mostly SVE

[pine elbow]

Idk but this is very eenie and cute

[torpid sparrow]

i was gonna put a house in that fenced area right when you walk into pelican town so thats a good place i think

[hard fern]

Harvey stands in there

[pine elbow]

Harvey:

[torpid sparrow]

i think theres still space

[vital lotus]

was bout to say but u gonna use it

and there's harvey

[torpid sparrow]

idk i was using wickedy's paths thing

[pine elbow]

I think if you remove the big tree then yeah

[torpid sparrow]

and theres a good chunk of space

[hard fern]

Sometimes i think about stealing the vanilla trailer cabin to make an npc who visits town every now and then lol.

[torpid sparrow]

pretend compat doesnt exist

[pine elbow]

Are we all campers here because my NPCs own a camper

[torpid sparrow]

sage is around the bend the name of margo's mod

[vital lotus]

is the back wood off limit for npc?

[pine elbow]

Yes!

Inspired by the Pearl Jam song by the same name

[pine elbow]

Like, the secret woods?

[torpid sparrow]

oh wait yes i remember this

backwoods are off limits

[hard fern]

Yeah its unpathable

Youll have to do magic

[torpid sparrow]

the real estate market in pelican town is dire

[hard fern]

Actually there's not enough space in pelican town

same thought

[vital lotus]

yeh that's why many expansion mods

[pine elbow]

This is why joja is the future. They have ideas, plans /j

[torpid sparrow]

booo booo

[round timber]

Central Station 🌈

[vital lotus]

wem r u making ginger island expansion of sort?

[torpid sparrow]

yes

[pine elbow]

Make every season construction season!

[torpid sparrow]

gonna be a pirate crew

not the existing one

a new one

[pine elbow]

This is also a solid option!

[vital lotus]

they go treasure hunting?

[hard fern]

Central station ✨

[torpid sparrow]

some of them

idk im still trying to plan what i want their schedules to be like

cause theoretically they should be out and about

but thats not very conducive to gameplay

[hard fern]

🤔 ngl im just gonna start patching in my maps into the game so i know they're there and they work

[torpid sparrow]

right now ive got 3 crewmates who regularly go out and come back to the island occasionally

[pine elbow]

I'd patch in my map............if I had one

[vital lotus]

is there CP way of destroying bush? say with trigger action?

but like in background

[torpid sparrow]

like the existing bushes?

[vital lotus]

yep

[torpid sparrow]

i think people use the

that mod im forgetting the name of

it clears all the stuff

[vital lotus]

i mean like say i want allow ppl to add mod on existing save but it'll patch bits of map

and likely there'll be bush

can it be cleared somehow in background without C# magic?

[torpid sparrow]

yeah theres a mod that fixes that

i cannot remember the name

[round timber]

BETAS for mod authors, RTF for players

[torpid sparrow]

yes

[vital lotus]

huh BETAS have feature for that?

[round timber]

yep!

[vital lotus]

dang i need to read the documentation again

oh yeh clear object, so nice

my day is made

[pine elbow]

I want to mod but I also am falling down the "nothing is fun" rabbit hole

[torpid sparrow]

thats why you start a new mod

[vital lotus]

i've been playing wordle lately

little dopamine spike

[torpid sparrow]

i used to be a NYT crossword truther but i havent done it in months :(

[round timber]

this is how i ended up with like seven different wip mods/updates

[torpid sparrow]

yeah i have about 6 notion pages for all my wips

[vital lotus]

can relate

[pine elbow]

I'm trying to avoid this trap of infinite WIPS

[torpid sparrow]

its fate

[vital lotus]

there's always the honeymoon phase with new mod ideas

it's a different kind of high

[pine elbow]

I want to add my dune area to the game so I can work on schedules (my beloved), but I can't make the tiles necessary and have it look good but having someone else do it costs money

[torpid sparrow]

if i could materialize all the art assets i would be so much faster with mods

[torpid sparrow]

you LIKE schedules??

[pine elbow]

Yes!

[vital lotus]

is exactly what i'm doing

[torpid sparrow]

i hate schedules so much

the testing....the testing....

[pine elbow]

I love watching my guys move around

[torpid sparrow]

patch reload sleep patch reload sleep patch reload sleep patch reload sleep

[vital lotus]

stalker

[round timber]

let your friends test the schedules for you

[torpid sparrow]

im the exact opposite i love making maps

maps are so fun!

i love clutter

[pine elbow]

I would trade a whole bug-tested schedule week for an exterior map lowkey

[pine elbow]

Interior maps are awesome. I can't do exteriors

[vital lotus]

that g island map u made is cute, loves the vibe

[torpid sparrow]

thank you im having a hard time with filling it up

[humble timber]

i need to properly learn mapmaking. ive messed around in tiled a bit but.
man im gonna. need. maps...

[torpid sparrow]

have u done exteriors

it gets better with practice

[pine elbow]

Most I've ever done is edit existing farm maps for personal use

[torpid sparrow]

for me it was all trial and error

[torpid sparrow]

its not horrible but the pathing is a bitch to get a hang of

[round timber]

i feel like map making is something id like if i got more practice with it

[torpid sparrow]

took me forever to figure out how to not make just completely straight paths

[round timber]

like making natural looking paths is difficult

[torpid sparrow]

yes

it sucks so bad

[pine elbow]

I might try to make an exterior area and commission custom tiles for it later (fingers crossed on the birthday money front)

[torpid sparrow]

oh yeah i frown at making custom tilesheets

but i feel like im decorating a dollhouse or something

[pine elbow]

Thankfully my map is a dune-y area, so paths don't really exist

[hard fern]

Paths are my mortal enemy

But ive also spent a ridiculous amount of time laying down paths in animal crossing NH

[vernal crest]

Hiria's home xD

[torpid sparrow]

turn pelican town into an RV park

[hard fern]

Oh so we just all love campers/trailers

XD

[torpid sparrow]

hey someone should make an RV park

[round timber]

does tent count

[torpid sparrow]

all new npcs must have a camper and a parking spot

[pine elbow]

I have this mini-vision in my mind of a small, "off-road" area with lots of prairie grass and then Margo's convenience store + camper van in the middle of it

[vital lotus]

most definitely

[humble timber]

a park for all the trailers would be so funny lol

[pine elbow]

Unironically

[keen seal]

tbh once you get over the learning curve it can be really fun

oh shoot sorry I forgot to turn off the @

[humble timber]

YEAHH i can see how it'd be fun
unfortunately i am losing my mind enough with other stuff

curse of wanting to make a whole expansion

[keen seal]

Yeah mood XD

[torpid sparrow]

doing maps so i dont have to do anything else

maps are self contained...mostly.....

[vernal crest]

Hiria's is in her own section in the Cindersap National Park as part of her job as the Park Ranger so she would not be able to join in on an RV park I'm afraid

[pine elbow]

The thought of doing walk sprites makes me nauseous so I might do some mapmaking

[keen seal]

That’s exactly what I’m doing rn too lol

[torpid sparrow]

are you making a map of the national park?

that would be an impressive map project

[humble timber]

i was working on sprites until our power briefly flickered and now i should probably try to eep

[vital lotus]

the beauty of map is that the satisfaction is instant though

not like schedule, dialogues, and so on

[keen seal]

You need to have an area for all the new things you’re adding to exist in! That’s my logic for doing as many maps as I can stomach doing first XD

[torpid sparrow]

yeah i dont have to test that much thank god

[vernal crest]

Only the entry area. The rest of it the farmer always decides not to go tramping (hiking) along lol

[humble timber]

yall doing maps first meanwhile i just crank out portraits
then cry doing sprites

[pine elbow]

Smart

[keen seal]

I’ve got a friend doing portraits and sprites, thankfully XD otherwise I would be in my own personal hell lmao

[torpid sparrow]

sprites feel like such a chore even though theyre so teeny

[humble timber]

its precisely bc theyre teeny

[round timber]

theyre a chore because theyre so teeny

rahhh you stole my line

[vital lotus]

i always just edit a vanilla npc

[humble timber]

same braincell!

[pine elbow]

I think of doing walk cycles then remember I want to do seasonal outfits and then suddenly I don't do walk cycles

[torpid sparrow]

yes

i dont know how i survived seasonal outfits for peeta

i cranked the mod out in 3 weeks

[round timber]

i always say this every chance i get: seasonal outfits should always be low priority

[humble timber]

I was tryna figure out how the hell to add glasses to a sprite before the power flicker scared me . Pain

[torpid sparrow]

no glasses for sprites for me

[pine elbow]

It's worse because I had full seasonal outfits for Margo.......before I revamped her

[vital lotus]

even the base game level rn is kinda plenty with beach and winter

[round timber]

theyre nice to have yes and u can certainly do them when youre nearing the end of the project but its ultimately just a way of procrastinating on more essential parts of the mod

[humble timber]

oh for sure

[round timber]

speaking from experience here lol

[torpid sparrow]

procrastinating is an essential part of modmaking

[pine elbow]

I do it when I want mostly. But I do get upset with them lol

[vital lotus]

for npcs the meat is prolly heart event

[keen seal]

yeah that’s a lot of writing

[torpid sparrow]

i love events now that i have discovered wrap text

and im not looking at an ungodly long line

[vital lotus]

what's wrap text?

[torpid sparrow]

why did i not find a solution to that

[humble timber]

like all my portraits ive just got. one main outfit for now, tho i did keep some parts separate for possible seasonal outfit combos

[pine elbow]

I've been meaning to sniff out feedback for my intro cutscene...I can't work without my precious feedback

[keen seal]

Oh please share your knowledge

[torpid sparrow]

wrap text uhhh it uhhh how do i explain it

its late uhhh instead of being one continuous line it goes to the next line

thats not a good explanation

[keen seal]

I can visualize it

[torpid sparrow]

it just makes it so much easier to see and track what im doing

[golden basin]

so would anyone understand the drop box thing for special orders? i cant get mine working

[round timber]

you can also do linebreaks either immediately before or immediately after slashes

[pine elbow]

"$b# ?

[torpid sparrow]

yes

[golden basin]

like it works but its not accepting my objects

[torpid sparrow]

json pls

[vernal crest]

Do you not do multilined because of wanting error checking?

[torpid sparrow]

no like the actual text in the text editor

[vernal crest]

No it's for text wrapping in your text editor

[torpid sparrow]

so its a paragraph instead of one line

[vital lotus]

what error checking?

[torpid sparrow]

im scared of multiline because im afraid ill mess something up

[pine elbow]

Ohh

[golden basin]

https://smapi.io/json/none/47a96e2b1679401f8587e8bd5963a4b4

[torpid sparrow]

wrap text works well enough for me

[golden basin]

i do wrap text too

[vernal crest]

It's the same thing as single line except you press enter after a command lol

[round timber]

yeah theres not much to mess up honestly

[torpid sparrow]

i wanna say its item_ID

cause its a context tag

so its not just the object id but item_ObjectId

[vernal crest]

Word wrap is the second image instead of the first. No sideways scrolling to read things.

[golden basin]

those are context tags

[torpid sparrow]

no i mean

item_{{ModID}}_WarriorOfPeace

instead of just {{ModID}}_WarriorOfPeace

[golden basin]

ooooo

I see

do i need to add that to my objects json too in the context tags

[torpid sparrow]

item_<name> is what it says in the documentation

[vital lotus]

oh.... gotcha

[torpid sparrow]

i dont believe so

i didn't do that and its not in the vanilla objects json

[vital lotus]

u can sniff it out here with plenty now active and about

[pine elbow]

I was about to ask if anyone is available to do a writing feedback/brainstorming session with me

[torpid sparrow]

i would if weren't nearly 1:30 am

[vital lotus]

u def should sleep wem 😅

[torpid sparrow]

i will.....soon....if clown reports back that their special order is working...

and if they never return then i will never sleep again

[pine elbow]

Wem, would you be down to do a writing session when you're rested? No worries if not

[golden basin]

still not working

[torpid sparrow]

[torpid sparrow]

yes but probably wont be for like 16 hours?! i study in the mornings

[pine elbow]

Feel free to ping me when you're available

[golden basin]

https://smapi.io/json/none/2ee43e6a54464ef1baa7add9a759bf69

[torpid sparrow]

it might be lowercase

i havent done special orders with custom objects yet

[golden basin]

it is lower case?

[torpid sparrow]

all of it

i mean

item_{{ModId}}_name

[brave fable]

actually when i played stardew years ago i had it on the OS cursor only option, i had no idea you could click things around the world since there wasn't a hand cursor hahah

[torpid sparrow]

"They're usually case-insensitive, but custom tags should be lowercase to be safe."

so maybe...that...

[vernal crest]

Can you share your objects.json too clown?

[hard fern]

Oh yeah i forgot os cursor was a thing

Im just nosy and love to snoop

[torpid sparrow]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Context_tags

[hard fern]

In any game, really

[torpid sparrow]

I cant remember a mod off the top of my head that requires donation box of custom items

i would say SVE and RSV just cause theyre so big they might have it

[twin wadi]

RatA?

[vernal crest]

What is RatA?

[hard fern]

Rsv has one yeah

[golden basin]

figured it out

[torpid sparrow]

what was it?

[brave fable]

Rage Against The Aquamarine

[vernal crest]

VMV also does, so does S&S (at least v2, not sure about v3)

[golden basin]

just the wrong item nname

[torpid sparrow]

oh xd

well that'll do it

[hard fern]

Oof

[vital lotus]

Nitey wem

[torpid sparrow]

goodnight

[round timber]

(rose and the alchemist)

[vernal crest]

Ah, thanks ^_^

[vital lotus]

Whats the grave in back wood? Just noticed it on the map folder

[golden basin]

its my grave 😔

too much modding

[vernal crest]

It's from one of Abby's events

[round timber]

tis a monster

[golden basin]

im the monster

[vital lotus]

Thank you, I'll check

[round timber]

scary

[vernal crest]

It might be her 14h I get hazy since I have mods allowing me to see all the heart events without romancing them

[twin wadi]

it is

i should sleep...

[vital lotus]

Interesting does the grave stay after the event?

[vernal crest]

Yup

[twin wadi]

thats such a nice detail

[golden basin]

oh!! Aba! do you recall how to spawn monster via spacecore?

I was trying to find it here in the chat and failed

[vernal crest]

Yup I still have my test mod

[hard fern]

Yeah it's her 14heart. I know because ive never married her XD

[golden basin]

omgohs can i have it please

[vital lotus]

https://gist.github.com/spacechase0/35453e1e7a0593d8d4f00246c1dd3990

[hard fern]

also happens to be the only event that takes place in the backwoods

[vernal crest]

Here's the start of the conversation (basically): #making-mods-general message

[golden basin]

thank you!

[vernal crest]

Weh heh heh

[hard fern]

Duck P

[golden basin]

i just recalled ic ouldnt despawn them so imma use ftm for now

[glossy marsh]

I need some advice and help.
Content Patcher is not being recognized as a mod, and I’m being told it’s incompatible.

Here are the mods I currently have installed:
■ Mods

1. Content Patcher 2.7.4
2. SMAPI 4.3.2

Here’s the log:
I really want to play SVE, so I’d appreciate your help!

[vernal crest]

!mh Head to the support forum and someone in there will be able to help you. This channel is for helping making mods :)

[ocean sail]

For help with modding issues, please ask in #1272025932932055121! When asking for assistance there, sharing an error log will help others identify your issue (see https://smapi.io/log for instructions).

To use this command, type !mh.

[glossy marsh]

Thank you very much!
I sent it to the wrong address. Thank you very much. I will consult with them.

[inner harbor]

Alas, my course has been officially canceled, so I guess I won't be designing a game anytime soon. Not that I really expected to learn enough in 14 hours to do so!

[vernal crest]

There are plenty of MOOCs on game design if you feel like doing a more self-paced one!

[inner harbor]

Yet I Was wondering if I could maybe do that instead.

[gentle rose]

I haven’t heard the term MOOC in ages… is futurelearn still a thing? or are they mostly on coursera etc now

[inner harbor]

If I did make a game it would be about either birds or lemurs.

[vernal crest]

I have never heard of futurelearn

[hard fern]

What is a moo

Mooc

[gentle rose]

it was the website my school pressured us to do moocs on

I think they had some kind of bulk license

Massively Open Online Course

[vernal crest]

Massive online...o-something course?

Haha thank you

[hard fern]

Ah

[gentle rose]

basically, anything on coursera etc haha

[vernal crest]

My uni had a different MOOC platform, I don't remember what it was

[gentle rose]

my school was convinced they’d help us get into uni

[vernal crest]

I did a bunch of psych MOOCs before committing to going to uni for psych which was a great idea.

[gentle rose]

I (nominally) did some crypto moocs to put on my personal statement lmao

[golden basin]

do yall think 55 artifacts to collect to unlock a museum is too many....

[gentle rose]

(and then didn’t because they made me realise crypto was weird)

[golden basin]

Im starting to think it might be too many actually

but i like my artifacts

[vernal crest]

Do you mean that someone would have to collect 55 artifacts before they could even access the museum?

[golden basin]

yeah youre helping to build it

i could down size that

I was thinking maybe I could have mmost of this being sold as like replicas at the gift shop instead

[vernal crest]

If you're actively doing something with the artifacts rather than just being expected to know to hold onto them on the off chance they might have some use some day, I have no issue with that. Though I suppose having to wait until you've collected all 55 before you can progress to some next part of a story would really stall things because it is a lot.

[golden basin]

Have the museum open from the start? and instead you would unlock the statues

[vernal crest]

I think it helps to be rewarded throughout the process, yeah. Like the way the CC bundles reward you for completing each bundle as well as for the entire thing.

[dusky sail]

If I can chime in, I feel like it also depends on how you get the artifacts/how rare they overall are. There's some finnicky game balance in there

[golden basin]

okay okay so heres my idea

the museum is open from the start, there are missing statues, eachone is a bundle? or maybe a special order?

reward is a replica statue and a money reward?

[vernal crest]

If you're open to having UB as a dependency I think bundles work better because then players don't have to progress in a linear fashion - though if you have a linear story planned for their completion that is of course okay too.

[golden basin]

ooo good point

but i alreayd have a lot of dependencies

like 4

[lucid iron]

can u just make the story progress once you have these specific guys

[golden basin]

hmm ill just do the bundles actually

[vernal crest]

4 is a minute number of dependencies imo

[lucid iron]

ub basically gives u the prof snail flavor of museum

u complete stuff and the map patch the bones in

[vernal crest]

I have three dependencies so far for a mod that just adds one museum to the game

And once I inevitably have a map issue that chu can fix I will have MMAP too xD

[lucid iron]

u know i had a similar sort of weighing recently

[vernal crest]

Whether to add dependencies to MMAP? /lh

[lucid iron]

i am convert some more furniture of other ppl and bc it was an AT pack, i saw that i can do basically everything in spacecore

the only exception is custom tv

which i figured i might as well add to mmap with understanding that ill deprecate it in a year/whenever 1.6.16

so my choices r like

1. do most of it in spacecore, custom tv in mmap
2. do all of it in mmap
3. do it in a way that would choose which dependency to use

it is kind of silly that there r 3 different frameworks providing furniture tile actions atm

[vernal crest]

Haha yes

[lucid iron]

ill prob do 3 for reasons of being extra ✨

[obtuse wigeon]

Just want to jump in and offer a suggestion, what if as you help build the museum room by room you unlock different catagories each allowing you to find different things? i.e the first room relates to palentology allowing you to find bones and only bones, the second room relates to excavation so you'd start finding pottery and statues along side the bones unlocked from the palentology room

[inner harbor]

Sorry I haven't checked out the revamped GIMA yet... I've been playing Bear and Breakfast and trying to write marriage dialogue.

[golden basin]

Too much work.......cause everything also has very detailed description placks

[obtuse wigeon]

Ahhh gotcha fair enough

[golden basin]

I like my statue idea a lot cause it's a smaller goal the idea was to down size the labor on the players

Cause I don't know...55 artifacts is still a lot to find right?

[vital lotus]

will take time for sure

[obtuse wigeon]

well there are 40 odd artifacts and 50 minerals in vanilla stardew, and I'm just on summer year 2 and only have like another 10 or some to find to complete the museum

[golden basin]

True

[vital lotus]

do u make the artifact spawn locked to certain area clown?

[golden basin]

Yes I do

Inside a custom mine

[vital lotus]

coz if so, how often player go there will really affect how long it'll take

[obtuse wigeon]

so it will defo be like a decent amount of time to complete, I do love museum collection mods for other games like LOTD from skyrim, so I'm used to spending a good 100 + hours (IRL) finishing them, so I am an outlier

[vital lotus]

my museum took forever coz i don't like going mining

[golden basin]

I wasn't even planning on having things be unlockable it was just supposed to be a museum for information dumping

Maybe I should return to that concept....

[vital lotus]

i think it's a neat dynamism for sure

if dynamism a word 🤔

[golden basin]

Honestly the only reason it's not on a vanilla map is cause it didn't make sense to me to have a culture specific museum in a area that has nothing to do with said culture

[lucid iron]

I think u can do it somewhat limited like

The museum is mostly filled

But u can donate a few more missing items

[vital lotus]

interesting idea

[golden basin]

That's what I was doing chu

[fallow lotus]

ello sorry to interupt, does anyone know if when using alternative textures to change the text sign craftable's texture is there anything extra you need to do to ensure the text bubble still works? the text bubbles don't seem to show up when the texture is applied in game. had a look at the AT github wiki but dont see anything on it unless im blind lol

[vital lotus]

yeh the pelican town museum losing everything doesn't really get explained isn't it?

[blissful panther]

Not other than "the last guy ran off with everything"!

[golden basin]

Hey dh!

[obtuse wigeon]

Currently playing with Sword and Sorcery East Scarp expansion and it gives a bit more lore to it but still not fully explained

[blissful panther]

(Also, preemptive hell-)

Damn it, too slow.

[golden basin]

I have a idea

For u

👀

Remember the concept you played with, a interactive object you hold to bring up text or a photo?

[blissful panther]

It would be good to actually finish that...

[golden basin]

Spacecore sort of has something like that a guide book thingy maybe y'all can work together

Because 👁️ 👁️

[obtuse wigeon]

A framwork that does that would be fantasic

[golden basin]

I wanna write a in game mock educational book

Idk if anyone would be interested in it though xD

[lucid iron]

You entered actual text?

[fallow lotus]

yes

[lucid iron]

AT limitation then

It didn't get proper update for many 1.6 features

[fallow lotus]

ahh okay, thanks

[urban wigeon]

Hi, I'm trying to use CPConditions and use a config token to enable an specific item to spawn in the farm, but it just doesn't work, I added required dependencies on both CP and FTM content packs, they are required each other, F1_Enabled is my config token.

         "Years": [1],
         "Days": [1],
         "CPConditions": {
           "HasMod": "LyzzCL.MultiplayerFarms",
           "F1_Enabled": true,
           "StarterItems": true
         },
         "LimitedNumberOfSpawns": 1
       } ```

[lucid iron]

Hm are these config tokens?

I don't think you can use it in ftm easily

[urban wigeon]

D: I always try to do stuff that can't be done easily, btw I did the stuff where now trees wont always grow each day thanks to your recommendations, I made tons of tmx files with just the paths layer and added some kinda randomization to select a random file each day : p

So the CPConditions field is only for existing tokens? not ones I create like Config tokens? :c

Another question, when spawning a chest or destroyable with FTM, is there like an easier way to put big quantities of items or do I just put the same ID over an over? I tried this: I repeated parsnip ID so i get 3 but on Tapper i did "quantity": 3, it didn't work :p

"SpringItemIndex": [
          {
            "category": "Crate",
            "contents": [
              472,
              472,
              472,
              {
                "category": "Big Craftable",
                "name": "Tapper",
                "quantity": 3
              },
              {
                "category": "Big Craftable",
                "name": "Dehydrator"
              }
            ]
          }
        ],

[lucid iron]

The problem is more that a cp mod's config tokens are not accessible outside of itself

[hard fern]

wouldnt you need cmct for being able to use another mod's configs

[lucid iron]

It might work yes

If you made a c# to register the tokens globally it'd also work

[urban wigeon]

it does work, thank you!

[urban wigeon]

I'm so stubborn to make the config on C#, I wanted to keep it as simple as possible just with CP haha, might review this when I make sure the mod is fully finished

[obtuse wigeon]

On the wiki it says not to make a map from scratch, only edit a vanilla one, what type of map would be best for an indoor non-editable (i.e. not wallpaper or flooring compatable) location that won't have npcs only the player/s, I was thinking one of the town homes?

[calm nebula]

Sounds good

[obtuse wigeon]

perfect, do any of the homes have hardcoded properties that should be avoided? I don't know if any do but I just want to make sure

[torpid sparrow]

Don’t think so

I haven’t used all of the houses before but I’ve used Leah’s

And had no problems except remembering to change/delete the warp in map properties

[brave fable]

if it's defined in the map file, it's not hardcoded by definition. you can just remove it without editing the game code

[zinc venture]

Hi, I need some help. I'd like to make some humanoid npc play this kind of animation using C#. Is there any way to do that?

[obtuse wigeon]

Can I resize a map without issue?

specifically bigger

[calm nebula]

Resize is fine

[obtuse wigeon]

Perfect Thank you!

[gentle rose]

do you have the animation drawn out for that NPC?

[zinc venture]

Not yet. Do i have to draw it myself?

[humble timber]

well, you'd need the frames to work with

[whole raptor]

Also why C# and not CP?

[zinc venture]

I already have a mod but I’d like to update it with a new feature that plays animations based on conditions in my mod. I don’t think Content Patcher can handle what I’m trying to do.

[torpid sparrow]

yes or commission but you have to have the frames for sure

[whole raptor]

I feel like CP is pretty good with conditions and animations (as long as it fits into the NPC frame), but stuff like fishing with a rod are harder

Up to you

[zinc venture]

So, I have to draw the animation myself and then use CP to play it right?

[hard fern]

yeah, you can animate npcs during events with cp

[zinc venture]

Kayy thank you

[obtuse wigeon]

Is there actually any functional difference between Front and AlwaysFront tile layers? besides AlwaysFront being layered on top of Front

[final arch]

doesnt that count as functional difference? 🤔

[ancient blade]

chat teach me how to make mdos

[hard fern]

!startmodding

[obtuse wigeon]

wouldn't that be classed as visually?

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[hard fern]

read up the wiki first

[final arch]

... and I was wondering what "mdos" is 😆

[hard fern]

lol

[final arch]

mhh ig? theres no functional difference then :p

[hard fern]

yeh always front just gets layered on top everything .. thats about it...

[obtuse wigeon]

Gotcha, thank you!

Making a map with a warp in it, I want to warp the player to the farmhouse door, how do I set the warp up in tiled so that it changes depending on where the house is and not hardcoded to where the house usually would be if it wasn't moved?

[obtuse wigeon]

Also how do I actually place an Action Dialogue property on the map, I can't place anything while the not tile layers are selected

[hard fern]

you need to go to the object layer

the pink thing

sorry let me get an image

[obtuse wigeon]

I am, but I can't place anything while it's selected

[hard fern]

click rectangle, the blue one

[obtuse wigeon]

Ohhhhh

Not this bit the, gotcha

[hard fern]

the other button is for selecting (the pink)

[obtuse wigeon]

No wonder I was confused, the rectangle button was hidden away, probably caused by all the resizing of the window I do

[dusk terrace]

does CP patch reload command no longer invalidate assets? I think it did a while ago but I've only realized now it doesn't? unless I'm wrong

er, or maybe it still does... I have a weird situation of cache caching caches right now

[uncut viper]

it still invalidates assets

[dusk terrace]

I was doing my secondary cache invalidation in AssetRequested instead of AssetInvalidated so the reload command never cleared it because there weren't any new asset requests
should be fixed now 😅

[lucid iron]

@dusk terrace i have quick question about ddfc, does it support odd sized portraits?

[dusk terrace]

odd sized how..?

[lucid iron]

like if i wanted a character's long wabbit ears to peek out above the portrait box

s.t. the actual size is like 64x96

[dusk terrace]

ye that's not a problem

[lucid iron]

I'd have to just do it only for that character tho is that possible

[dusk terrace]

even easier with just one character actually

[lucid iron]

Yay ok

[dusk terrace]

I have a mod that extends portraits already if you want a sample code

[lucid iron]

Have ye got docs i can pass on to ppl

Yay that works

[dusk terrace]

one sec

as a regular CP patch entry:

{
    "Action": "EditData",
    "Target": "aedenthorn.DialogueDisplayFramework/dictionary",
    "Fields": {
        "NPCName": {
            "packName": "ModID",
            "portrait": {
                "xOffset": -394,
                "yOffset": -48,
                "h": 84,
                "w": 84,
                "right": true,
            }
        }
    }
},

just gotta adjust the sizes a bit... I won't attempt to math that out right now 😅

[lucid iron]

How does it work if i install a ddfc mod like doragons

Which moves the portrait box

[dusk terrace]

then you'll need a different patch with updated values and a condition checking if the mod is installed

[lucid iron]

Ah ok good thing there's just one of those rn

[dusk terrace]

or you might be able to change only the h/w values... I forget if CP allows that

might not need to change the pos if it's anchored properly

[lucid iron]

CP lets me target field into there yep

But only if make entry first

[timid helm]

Is there a way to make it so, instead of a warp zone, you click on something and it pulls up a text box asking if you want to visit x location? In content patcher

[lucid iron]

Like a door i guess?

[dusk terrace]

if copyFrom worked properly and created the fields on asset request, then this would work I think...

{
    "Action": "EditData",
    "Target": "aedenthorn.DialogueDisplayFramework/dictionary",
    "Entries": {
        "NPCName": { "CopyFrom": "default" },
    },
    "Priority": "Early"
}, {
    "Action": "EditData",
    "Target": "aedenthorn.DialogueDisplayFramework/dictionary",
    "TargetField": [ "NPCName", "portrait" ],
    "Entries": { "h": 96 }
},

maybe I can squeeze that into today's patch release, but I'm not sure if it's worth it really since CopyFrom will get nuked in the rework :S

[lucid iron]

Do u have a default model maybe

In some of my mods i check value on the specific key and then default key

[dusk terrace]

iirc the default key is the only key that exists in the dict by default

and it has these values: https://github.com/MangusuPixel/DialogueDisplayFrameworkContinued/blob/main/docs/defaults.json

[calm nebula]

Minecart maybe

[dusk terrace]

wouldn't work either way; you'll always have to change the position because images are anchored on the top-left corner
would need a new anchor field and have all mods updated

[timid helm]

I’m trying to make a warp, but it says there is an error and I don’t know how to fix it. Line 63 is where the issue is. This is also in content patcher

[dusk terrace]

I don't know if I can help, but sharing the url instead of taking photos of the results would help

also why do you have undefined patch entries? 😅

[rigid oriole]

Probably extra commas in the original before it was uploaded

[gentle rose]

does the validator do that? I didn’t think it changes the json

[rigid oriole]

You know... you may be right

[dusk terrace]

it does

for small syntax stuff like that, at least

[timid helm]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/a42e2a46141941db89bdcef0026dca95

it’s my first time making a mod, and that was just copied from a template

[gentle rose]

can we see the template you were using please? just for our reference

[dusk terrace]

thank you for the URL, much easier to read

[timid helm]

It’s the one from the wiki under modding:location data, examples, simple location

[gentle rose]

I don’t think that has undefined in it though. Did you add those?

[timid helm]

I didn’t add them. I don’t know why they are there

[gentle rose]

ah okay, so it probably is the validator

[dusk terrace]

did you test it in-game or are you only getting errors from the validator? the wiki example gives the same error

[gentle rose]

mangupix mentioned this earlier but I think deleted the message, but what’s your mod ID?

[timid helm]

The SMAPI console says, when walking into the warp, [game] Warp to WELH123456789 .PrairieIsland_PrairieIslandEntrnace failed: location wasnt found or couldn’t be loaded

[gentle rose]

there’s a space there after the author name. Is that there in your mod ID too?

[dusk terrace]

deleted it because the validator doesn't know the modid, obviously... 😅 would only make sense if the error was in-game

[gentle rose]

oh, right

[dusk terrace]

...but looks like I was too quick to delete it 😅

[timid helm]

No

[dusk terrace]

care to share your manifest.json?

[gentle rose]

oh weird, the validator is getting confused by the {{ModID}} token

if you remove the modid token the validator says there are no errors

[brittle pasture]

Data/maps/Location is wrong, should just be Data/Locations

[timid helm]

smapi.io/json/none/a6c4d9f527514053bdf6d28f06afc034

[gentle rose]

oooo there’s a mistake in the schema I think

[calm nebula]

Yeah, ignore. Schema issue more likely than not

[timid helm]

So what do I do?

[gentle rose]

yeah, found the issue in question. schema assumes no tokens in addwarps field (and several others)

[calm nebula]

Congratulations!

[gentle rose]

ignore that specific error in the validator for now and in general, try testing by running the game first and only check the validator if it’s incorrect

[calm nebula]

You get to send pathos a pr

One of us is at work iro

[gentle rose]

god what repo are the schemas even in, actually. would the content patcher schema be in the content patcher repo…

[calm nebula]

I'm not a reliable modder you know that

[gentle rose]

and I am?

[timid helm]

The SMAPI console says, when walking into the warp, [game] Warp to WELH123456789 .PrairieIsland_PrairieIslandEntrnace failed: location wasnt found or couldn’t be loaded

[gentle rose]

oh right pathos does a monorepo

[dusk terrace]

@timid helm did you do the fix Selph mentioned? #making-mods-general message

[calm nebula]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/SMAPI/blob/75d927a922c440a81d8bad70142c69e5a372580b/src/SMAPI.Web/wwwroot/schemas/content-patcher.json#L356

[gentle rose]

there are fields that can’t contain tokens?

never mind, Custom Locations were never removed from the schema

@calm nebula so would you agree generally that the way to support tokens in the warps field is to completely remove enforcement if there are tokens present?

because theoretically,

{{Warp}} is a perfectly valid value if the token Warp is set to 1 1 Town 1 1

[timid helm]

Should I just delete the location data and restart?

[dusk terrace]

you just have to change the target on line 41

remove the /maps part

[calm nebula]

@ivory plume is decider

[timid helm]

Now the SMAPI console is saying it couldn’t create the location, and asking if it’s invalid. How would I know if it was?

[dusk terrace]

what's the exact error please?

[timid helm]

Can I just upload the log?

[brittle pasture]

post your log + your new json again

[uncut viper]

not only can you but the answer is "you always should"

[timid helm]

The content patcher error I don’t need help with, it’s the one that says game

[uncut viper]

the game error doesnt come from nowhere. its because of your content patcher data. when talking about an error with a content patcher mod, a json and a log should always be sent together

[timid helm]

https://smapi.io/log/43ec7bee7bc04297ae75d6bd0334ad96

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26100.0, with 4 C# mods and 1 content packs.

[timid helm]

No it’s a sperate error rhat I know how to fix, I just haven’t got around to it. They aren’t related

[uncut viper]

this game error is also related to what you've written in your content.json

[timid helm]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/ee271824101e492e90ae6efac2c7a46e

[violet valley]

Does anyone know if there is a way to make spouce cutscenes in a farm building? Thanks 😄

[dusk terrace]

line 45: should be assets/Maps/{{ModId}}_PrairieIslandEntrance I think? or vice versa
line 54: should be Maps/{{ModId}}_PrairieIslandEntrance

[urban patrol]

take assets out of your target for the map load

[brittle pasture]

I think just doing it like you'd any other location (blank load the event asset + editdata) works?

gotta deal with mods that change the interior though, and to say there are plenty of those would be an understatement

(we discussed some time ago whether events in instanced locations work, and apparently it does?)

[uncut viper]

iirc it does

as long as you don't mind it working in any building of that type

[timid helm]

How do I fix the game error?

https://smapi.io/log/54f244eac4c7401a8b6da081decbaee8

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26100.0, with 4 C# mods and 1 content packs.

[brittle pasture]

did you fix the map load per this comment?

[timid helm]

I copied the template straight from the wiki

[uncut viper]

the question was whether you applied the fix that people told you would fix your error

[timid helm]

No

No it didn’t fix it, I did try it

[uncut viper]

then what is your current json

[sly lark]

Anyone good with portrait mod issues? I created a tech support post- could really use some help 🙏

[timid helm]

smapi.io/json/content-patcher/b114781599af467a81baa99ebdc2bd8a

I also deleted the entire json and recopied the wiki template back into it

[uncut viper]

you removed the underscore from your load target

it no longer matches your map path

[timid helm]

Is that the only issue?

[uncut viper]

fix it and see if any others pop up in the log

its certainly a issue

[ivory plume]

I think that's really the only option; there's no way to validate the text format when tokens are involved.

[uncut viper]

the wiki template has the underscore in both places

[gentle rose]

That’s what I was thinking. Is it worth making a PR just to fix that one regex, or should I just send the new regex here?

(theoretically, since the current regex enforces only one space between arguments, we could have the regex ensure there are no more than four spaces outside of tokens other than trailing/leading and no two spaces in a row other than trailing/leading I suppose, but I’m not sure there’s a way to make an error message for that helpful)

[timid helm]

https://smapi.io/log/5c5e2e1eafaf49a1a5b1defee16a9dff

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.3.2 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows NT 10.0.26100.0, with 4 C# mods and 1 content packs.

[uncut viper]

!tilesheetclimbing

[ocean sail]

When creating or editing maps in Tiled, one common error is tilesheet climbing, marked by red text containing "invalid tilesheet path '../../..'. This is caused by SMAPI not being able to find the tilesheets needed by the map file. To prevent this error, make sure that you have a copy of all necessary tilesheets in the folder containing your WIP tmx file. Copies of vanilla tilesheets can later be deleted, but must be present while working on your map.

If you get this error with a completed map, an easy way to fix it is to open your tmx file in VS Code or a similar text editor, find all of the places with <image source=, and remove the filepaths to so that only the tilesheet names remain. For example, if the code says <image source="Content (unpacked)/Maps/townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>, change it to just <image source="townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>.

To use this command, type !tilesheetclimbing.

[ivory plume]

Sure, feel free to submit a PR! I don't think we really need to worry about extra spaces anymore; in 1.6+ the game will just collapse multiple spaces into one in space-delimited fields like that.

[gentle rose]

while I’m at it, is there anywhere content patcher can’t evaluate tokens now other than token name definitions themselves?

for example, could load priority be a local token? (note I’m not asking if it should, just if it could )

[timid helm]

Thanks a lot everyone, it’s working now!

[uncut viper]

customlocations

[ivory plume]

There's a number of fields that don't allow tokens, mainly patch metadata (e.g. Priority, Update, LogName, etc).

[gentle rose]

I’m not touching that part of the schema anyway

[uncut viper]

tangentially related, does the Weather token still really only let you select the weather for current location, ginger island, and the valley? i tried peeking at its code just now but to my very unfamiliar reading it seemed like it should work with any location context id i thought, but the docs say otherwise

[calm nebula]

Also tangentially unrelated, Pathos, what say you about a LocalSeason token

And PassiveFestival token

[uncut viper]

tbh until just now i thought the Season token already took a locationcontext argument like Weather did

[royal stump]

Weather does seem to take a LocationContext key instead of the listed current/valley/island stuff now
(and just returns Sun for unrecognized keys)

patch parse "{{Weather}}
Parsed value: "Rain"
patch parse "{{Weather: Lumisteria_MtVapius_Main}}"
Parsed value: "Snow"
patch parse "{{Weather: Not_a_real_place}}"
Parsed value: "Sun"
patch parse "{{Weather: current}}
Parsed value: "Rain"
patch parse "{{Weather: valley}}
Parsed value: "Sun"

[uncut viper]

outdated docs, then does anyone even remember the very bottom of token docs exists anyway

[hard fern]

urhh,,,. i wanted to update an old mod so i could play with it but i loaded it up in tiled and the tiles are being funny? its this mod btw https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/4200?tab=files&file_id=18314

[manic snow]

hello. sorry, my english is not good. quick question. i am now updating my mods to 1.6. i am using a translator while doing all this...
so, in my 1.5.6 game, i had dga and cf mods. is there a way to convert these to a format that would still allow the furniture to be used outside the farmhouse? i am not experienced in this particular field.

if i convert either to cp, would the furniture be allowed to be used outside? also, doesnt cp replace vanilla furniture? i have so many for example, chairs. i was able to have separate chairs with no compatibility issues using dga and cf. would cp cause them all to be replaced if all are trying to replace the same furniture piece?

[humble timber]

cp can make new furniture now so don't worry about it replacing

that said i believe there are converters for both DGA and CF

!converters

[ocean sail]

These community tools help update mods to newer formats or frameworks:

• Convert to Content Patcher from Custom Furniture, Better Farm Animal Variety (BFAV), Custom Music, JSON Assets, More than Necessary (MTN), SAAT, Shop Tile Framework (STF), TMXLoader, or XNB.
• Convert to other frameworks:
  • Pants/skirt spritesheets to Fashion Sense
  • Visual Content Patcher mods to Alternative Textures
  • Hair spritesheets and JSON Assets shirts & hats to Fashion Sense
  • Custom Ore Nodes and Custom Resource Clumps mods to Item Extensions Framework
  • Content Patcher Animations to SpaceCore
• Other tools:
  • Extract i18n for a Content Patcher pack
  • Convert fish data from field names to slash delimited values
  • Convert markdown text to Nexus' bbcode

To use this command, type !converters.

[humble timber]

okay maybe not dga hmm

[manic snow]

ohh, that is good! i would have to specify in the concent.json to add, i think?

[humble timber]

yeah you basically just make new data entries

theres a documentation page on how it's done i just dunno where exactly it is atm

[manic snow]

i usually make backups of my game so i have furniture that i didnt convert to dga, and those that were originally dga. i can convert cf to cp but i am unsure for dga mods to cp

a

no worries

[humble timber]

have you already checked the old mod pages to see if anyone posted conversions in comments?

because some mods may have already been converted

[manic snow]

the ones on nexus, yes. but too many are from naver and many of them haven't been converted yet

[humble timber]

ahhhh yeah that'd do it, rip

[manic snow]

yea 😔

[opal tendon]

yaayyyyy

[floral stratus]

That bus looks fire btw

[urban wigeon]

@royal stump on FTM is it possible to put big quantities of items in a crate spawn? I currently just repeating the ID many times haha

Tried this by adding "quantity" but didn't work :p

"SpringItemIndex": [
          {
            "category": "Crate",
            "contents": [
              472,
              472,
              472,
              {
                "category": "Big Craftable",
                "name": "Tapper",
                "quantity": 3
              },
              {
                "category": "Big Craftable",
                "name": "Dehydrator"
              }
            ]
          }
        ],

[floral stratus]

So frustrated with myself. I keep thinking I'm done with a mod, publish it, then the next day see a bug I missed and have to update. I'm mostly upset for my downloaders who have to update the mod multiple times.

[craggy goblet]

Guess that's mostly normal... You (including us all) just have to roll with it 😔🫠🤷🏾‍♀️

But ey, you managed to turn your ideas into reality, that's something you should be proud of! 🗣️🔥😌

-# (not like me who just does shit whenever she actually feels like wanting to do something 😔✋🏼)

[floral stratus]

Thank you, that helps /gen

[craggy goblet]

:)

[round dock]

Speaking from experience, it’s okay. I know it can be a little frustrating, esp since you feel like you’ve checked everything there is to it and there’s still a bug you haven’t addressed, but know that a lot of authors, from amateurs to experienced ones, have gone through the same.

(recounts the time I had to update within minutes because of my manifest lol)

[craggy goblet]

It's the same for every other hobby (or similar) :/

Like weird spelling among hundreds of words in a novel draft 💀

[floral stratus]

Something I always forget until I'm in the middle of updating, then have to pause and fix it.

[round dock]

Don’t be too hard on yourself, friend. If you feel like you don’t wanna push for another update, it’s also okay. Rest gives you a fresher perspective and even places you at a better spot to review your files.

[floral stratus]

This community is so nice and helpful. You guys are great!

[craggy goblet]

That's what we're here for :D

[round dock]

(and if someone is being mean to you, block and report.)

[floral stratus]

I was worried when I came back to SDV from modding minecraft, that the community might be rather cliquish as it's smaller, but so happy to find out otherwise.

I'll shut up now.

[round dock]

The fact that you made a mod you worked hard on already suffices for you to be part of this community.

[royal stump]

use stack instead of quantity: https://github.com/Esca-MMC/FarmTypeManager?tab=readme-ov-file#item-settings

[urban wigeon]

Thank you so much, I was sure I read everything there, I'm so blind ;-;

[torpid sparrow]

Manifest is my worst enemy

[humble timber]

real

[dusk terrace]

anybody else having issues with GMCM on Android? Did the usual setup for PC and I can see the menu just fine but apparently Android users can't..?

wondering if there's a different setup I need to use or if it's just broken

[craggy goblet]

It does work fine for me, just scrolling's a little unhandy sometimes 🥲😅😂

[foggy niche]

hey friends. can anyonme help me out using the bustling valley mod pack ? I am unsure if its actually working when i load into the game

[brittle pasture]

!mh

[ocean sail]

For help with modding issues, please ask in #1272025932932055121! When asking for assistance there, sharing an error log will help others identify your issue (see https://smapi.io/log for instructions).

To use this command, type !mh.

[brittle pasture]

feel free to post a thread there with you log!

[dusk terrace]

mind checking Dialogue Display Framework Continued if you got the time? 🙏
there should be 4 int fields but people are reporting only seeing the checkbox

[foggy niche]

woops soryr

[craggy goblet]

Oof... I'll have a look later then, too late for me now. Thanks for asking though! (Taking a ss so I don't forget btw.)

Oohhh, that's one of your own mods! Cool :D

[dusk terrace]

no worries thanks for considering

[half tangle]

Oh, interesting, I got a report from an Android user earlier about the config not loading but I have no idea if my mod works with Android at all so I assumed it was an issue with my mod's incompatibility and not a possible GMCM related issue (if the user was even using GMCM...)

[dusk terrace]

interesting indeed

[half tangle]

World Navigator, for reference

[urban wigeon]

probably its not working on android, GMCM works perfectly fine for me but many mods are not loading on android so config wouldn't load either

[craggy goblet]

Well I do have GMCM and DDFC now, so I'll see how it works

[dusk terrace]

I mean my mod loads fine, but only the checkbox shows up and not the number fields, which makes it even weirder really

[half tangle]

maybe "config is not working" is just functionally equivalent to "the mod doesn't load on Android"

hmm...

[craggy goblet]

(also, does anybody know if SMAPI 4.2.1 is out for Android already? it keeps telling me to update 😔)

[half tangle]

I don't even know where Android SMAPI info exists on the internet...

(so, a not helpful reply)

[round dock]

Probably at their discord server tbh

[craggy goblet]

😔👍🏼

[half tangle]

those emoji send conflicting messages lol

[dusk terrace]

aw, so same issue huh

[half tangle]

does DDFC work with Android otherwise or does this lend credence to "config doesn't load" implies "mod doesn't work on Android"

does the config.json get created and look as expected

[dusk terrace]

does the number field show up on any other mod at all? somebody suggested I use a slider instead

and what about text fields?

[craggy goblet]

-# you're not even talking to me, so sorry

[half tangle]

no, I am - you're the one with Android and the testing abilities here

[dusk terrace]

noooo why delete 😅 you were correct

[craggy goblet]

Omg

You guys have the same name colors

😭😭

[half tangle]

you're providing very valuable info here

[craggy goblet]

i was so confused rn

[half tangle]

the curse of the mod author color...

[dusk terrace]

you know when you're eating so much cheetos and it gets all over your fingers... yea..

[craggy goblet]

Checked a few others and, yes, number field are being shown. Configurable text fields too.

[half tangle]

for reference, my config is a single keybind (keybindlist, technically)

[craggy goblet]

Yeah idk shi about keybinds and all that (at least not yet)

[dusk terrace]

example of a mod with number field please?

also really appreciate you checking it out despite it being late for you

[craggy goblet]

Wait, just so I understand this correctly - number fields, do I have to switch the numbers manually? Or can that happen via sliders?

[analog nimbus]

c# learning

[dusk terrace]

example of number fields (and how it looks on PC)

looks like text field but only allows entering number

I have no idea how the input fields look like for android 😅

[craggy goblet]

probably the same

just noticed I don't even have one 😔

[dusk terrace]

hmm... so no number input support for android 🧐

does it let you enter a specific number for sliders?

[urban wigeon]

No text input support in general, I just tried it with my own mod, this is how it looks on PC

Android

[dusk terrace]

that's sad

[urban wigeon]

And SVE android config:

on all configs I see text inputs are gone, have never realized that lol

[dusk terrace]

sliders won't do either since it needs fine-tuning... so if it doesn't allow keyboard input either then only hope is for an update

so much for this update meant to fix a separate issue with android users lmao

[craggy goblet]

Yeahhh, it's like that most times it seems (side-eyeing all the cool expansion mods I'd have IF THEY WERE PROPERLY COMPATIBLE WITH ANDROID)

[half tangle]

yeah, unfortunately getting my mods to work on Android sounds like a very big task since I don't have a development environment for doing any sort of testing (and have never played the game on Android to have any of that context, which is relevant for the UI side of the mod that I got that report from)

[craggy goblet]

Welll.... If you'd ever need anybody for testing stuff (if it's ready, cuz first I really NEED to figure out how to backup my save 😭😔)...

[royal stump]

still hoping somebody updates the code repo so I can look at android, since I can't run python scripts

[craggy goblet]

Same for you @half tangle :)

[craggy goblet]

What d'you mean with "look at Android", exactly?

[royal stump]

look at the decompiled C# code, so I can adjust my mod based on the differences between that and PC

(decompiled meaning "pieced back together from the assembled game code")

[dusk terrace]

the main dev guy gave me the dll when I asked about it

[craggy goblet]

...Oh, if only I spoke ✨Code Magick✨ 😔✋🏼

-# aka I don't get it at all 😭

[brittle pasture]

Android compat updates are basically 99% the SMAPI Android dev doing it themself, optionally pinging mod authors for questions about their code base

I don't even have an Android phone let alone play SDV on it

[royal stump]

in my case, the compat change was "turn off the non-sleep save options if FTM is installed"
I imagine one of the "clean up subclasses" events isn't firing, but idk where or why

[craggy goblet]

✨PARTIAL Problem solver's right here LMAO✨ (emphasizing "partial")

only thing that actually sucks is - running the launcher means I can't save during the day anymore 😭😭

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #6511 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1398087949316522034)

[royal stump]

in simple terms, the code is a bunch of text like this, and some of it is different between PC and Android
so if a mod says do the Crop(blah blah) thing please, the PC game knows what that means, but Android might not

looking at the android version would mean I know what they renamed stuff to, etc

[calm nebula]

Crops can only make objects?

😦

Pathos plz

[royal stump]

I didn't even parse that, but ig so

[urban patrol]

what if i want to make a sword plant that grows swords :( /j

[craggy goblet]

Oooohhhh, okay.... Dang that's mean 😔

[hard fern]

oh you know what this dialogue is easy.. (top ten words said before disaster)

🤔 but actually i wonder if it just makes that much of a difference when i have a clear "voice" for my character this time

[hard fern]

Uhmm so since the blacksmith doesn't have any event data already, if i want to add my events there, would i load a blank with a priority "low" ?

[calm nebula]

Oui

[hard fern]

Merci

[craggy goblet]

Okay so, just had an in-game run; this is what came out :|
-# (Language? German.)

Also there's a short visual glitch when tapping on the screen so the dialogue continues to "flow" (aka "to progress"????)

[dusk terrace]

not sure what you mean about the flowing, is the whole box moving?

the off-centering is normal though, you have to configure that in the config file so it matches your display

hence the update, but GMCM said no

[brittle pasture]

[[Modding:Maps]] @ruby pawn

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps

[brittle pasture]

what you want is Action Door

[ruby pawn]

Okk, i'll take a look at that, also, I know the game check if you enter the room or not (because it needs to throw the message if you can enter or not) do you know if with SMAPI I can get that function? Or is there a function that you recommend for it?

[brittle pasture]

what do you want to achieve

[ruby pawn]

My idea is to make a mod that lets you knock a door that you cannot enter yet

so for that, I believe first I need to know when the player is trying to enter in a npc room

[brittle pasture]

aah
(I think someone was working on that too, or at least thought about working on it)
it's a map action, so you can patch the function that handles the Door action

what do you want to happen next? since that's the actual hard part

[calm nebula]

(Or register into the dictionary i think it takes precedence)

[whole raptor]

Tbh it'd be fun if at least LocalTokens were allowed in LogName

[ruby pawn]

a lot of things come to my mind, but I believe to make things easier in the first version, I wanted to prompt a text saying that you still dont have permission to enter and sking if you want to knock, if you say yes, the npc has a percentage of chance of letting you in. (first I thought of always letting the player enter the room, but then I thought that the npcs have different humors, so maybe this chance could be different depending on its personality)

maybe add that "chance" part in a future version as well

first I want to learn how to mod it lol

[brittle pasture]

yeah that sounds straightforward enough
I was thinking stuff that's messing with pathfinding, which ia definitely more challenging

!startmodding follow the C# guide

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[ruby pawn]

this would make the npc go to the door or something like that?

[ruby pawn]

I followed this guide already, I was looking for something more specific for my problem

[brittle pasture]

!decompile have you decompiled yet

[ocean sail]

If you want to make SMAPI mods with C#, one important resource is decompiling the game to read the game code. Here's how to do it: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#How_do_I_decompile_the_game_code.3F

To use this command, type !decompile.

[hard fern]

is there something that lets me hear each sound you can play with playSound so im not adding weird fish noises in my event by mistake

[ruby pawn]

ok, I did not yet

[valid folio]

Hello! I need help... Yes, I know I always need help, but today I truly need it more than ever. I need to learn (or rather, be taught, haha) how to properly use Extra Machine Config (EMC) for two reasons. The first is that I want to make something in my mod dedicated to framework creators – Selph knows what I'm planning but has to keep quiet, haha! The second reason is that I want to give more advanced functionalities to my machines, especially my Dairy Processor.

So far, I've managed to make it produce smoothies, cheeses, yogurts, and cream. I'm not sure if my current code could be cleaner (I think it's decent overall), but I'm running into an issue. 6480 from the Cornucopia team explained some general machine concepts to me, which were very helpful, but I have a problem:

My idea is for my Dairy Processor to make smoothies of different flavors based on the fruit I put in the machine. However, I haven't been able to figure out how to do that because I'm clearly missing something. Right now, it can only make a multi-fruit smoothie (milk + 3 fruits + sugar). I have the same problem with yogurt (my current recipe is cultured milk + 3 fruits + milk).

My goal was for it to only need one fruit, but I don't know how to make the sprite take on the color of the fruit and have the name appear as "[insert fruit here] Smoothie ". Otherwise, the only other option is to create a sprite for every fruit in the base game and from popular mods (looking at you, Cornucopia and Wildflour!), and that's going to be a lot of work. I've looked at other similar machines, but I can't figure out how they work. I've read the EMC documentation and checked the SDV wiki (which, by the way, is quite hard for me to read due to my poor eyesight), and I just can't get it to work.

By the way, how do I search for my own replies on Discord? Just in case someone answers and I'm not near my PC, or I don't hear my phone, or anything else happens, that way I can look up my messages and see if I've been answered.

Apologies for the long message, but I wanted to be as clear as possible!

[uncut viper]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/34968

[brittle pasture]

theres a debug command to play sound

[hard fern]

woah a soundboard

[brittle pasture]

that too

[hard fern]

just what i need

:3

i feel like im speedrunning this event

[brittle pasture]

to start, can you post the code you already have?

[ruby pawn]

@brittle pasture I'll decode the game and take a look in the files, thank you for the help!

[brittle pasture]

from:yourusername

oh if you want mentions then mentions:yourusername

[valid folio]

ok https://smapi.io/json/none/74bd89f2bd2c4b9baa9b006825b4b1d5

[brittle pasture]

okay, this is somewhat tricky because the item you want to copy the color from is a fuel instead of the primary input

quick question one: would you be fine with flipping it around so the 3 fruits is the main input item? it does mean it is harder to control whether you get yogurt or smoothie

(though with your current approach it's harder to control which fruit gets used instead)

[valid folio]

So, as the main ingredient, I should put the fruits instead of sugar for the smoothies, right? Did I understand that correctly?

[valid folio]

Yes, of course, but is there a way for it to produce yogurt like that? Since yogurt will also need fruit as a main ingredient, right?

[brittle pasture]

so 3 fruit as main input + milk + either sugar or buttermilk. if buttermilk gets used you get yogurt, if sugar gets used you get smoothie

then you can just CopyColor + CopyPrice + set display name and it will work

[valid folio]

Ok, I tried something similar but it wouldn’t accept the ingredients and I couldn’t process anything, but I can try it the way you’re telling me if you want, maybe I wrote something wrong in the code

[valid folio]

Ok I can try that, but could you give me an example of the code written correctly? Just to make sure I don’t mess it up when I write it? hahaha

[brittle pasture]

sure give me a sec

[valid folio]

Ty

[brittle pasture]

https://smapi.io/json/none/a9439acfa2794b2ab89348bebb2054cf something like this

the rule will accept 3 fruits, and if the player has milk and buttermilk as fuel it makes yogurt, if not, if the player has milk and sugar as fuel it makes smoothie

[valid folio]

Now I understand where my code failed. The sprite that will be tinted — how should it be? White? Transparent? And how should I handle the name? @valid folio

[valid folio]

I´ll be back

[brittle pasture]

look at what the vanilla juice/wine/etc. sprites in TileSheets/Objects_2

they have a transparent overlay on the right that gets tinted and put on top of the main sprite

as for display name, look at ObjectDisplayName on this page: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Item_queries#Item_spawn_fields

[vocal osprey]

Thanks for the detailed message!

I've actually found my way around generating a font for every type and it was trivial thanks to the font settings mod
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/12467
It allows you to visualize the differences between every type of font and compare to the game's original (all within game!) to eventually export it to either xnb or .spriteFont or fnt + png depending on your needs.

There's another way which is less approachable as you have to have a bit of knowledge in programming and it is to use the game engine (monogame v3.8) and generate xnb fonts using it, here's a tutorial on how to go about it this way
https://youtu.be/sPH-sNTSrhw

importing assets and printing text chapters is all you need from the video

As for DMing you, I'd rather we take this opportunity to create a thread so the community learns from our findings easily 😄

Oh looks like I don't have permission to create a thread

[brittle pasture]

I can make one if you want

[vocal osprey]

Yes please

[brittle pasture]

Custom Language/Font Thread

[valid folio]

Thanks Selph, I’ll see if I have time now to do a quick test, you really cleared my head with all of this. One more question: if I want to allow an item by tag, for example milk_item, but I want to exclude a specific tag, like buttermilk, I should use !buttermilk, right? But how would I put that inside the code format you gave me?

[brittle pasture]

"milk_item,!buttermilk_item"

[valid folio]

Ty, the only thing I won’t be able to make in the dairy processor is flavored milk, right? (fruit + milk)

[merry rampart]

What does this do?

[dusky sail]

It one of the secret statue collectibles

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/%3F%3FHMTGF%3F%3F this guy

[merry rampart]

ah, ok

working on retouching the maps and was debating putting a pond or something there

but i think i'll just leave it be

[dusky sail]

It is possible to move it but idk if it would cause other issues

[tiny zealot]

i think it's safe to move as long as you keep it on the Town map (or as long as you update the lost book with the clue)

and if you do, i would document its new location somewhere that players can look it up

[brittle pasture]

if you want to you can make that as well

add a 3rd product that just takes milk

(imo you should make a new machine)

[valid folio]

I figured it was like that, but I wanted to be sure. It’s just that I want to have a multi-purpose machine. Anyway, I know I’ll have to make a detailed guide about how to use my machines. I want to achieve something new with my mod, break away from the standard a bit. Besides, it doesn’t really make sense to have two dairy processors that, even if they do different things, would basically be the same machine. Also, the animation for the dairy processor turned out really well! Everyone who’s seen it has complimented it.

[rocky copper]

I haven't played around with the Mod Data field in Content Patcher before, but does anyone know if/how to use the ModData item spawn field from a building ItemConversion to affect the Player Mod Data that can be picked up by a Condition?

Or will the ModData item spawn field only affect the item being produced?

[lucid iron]

I'm struggling to parse the ask here but afaik that ModData field just adds whatever you put to the item modData

[rocky copper]

Ultimately, I'm trying to make a Building with ItemConversions that has multiple conversion rules but only processes one a day (normally it processes all conversion rules, rather than picking one). I was curious if I could make that happen with ModData

[uncut viper]

i think they mean picked up by a condition like the PLAYER_MOD_DATA GSQ can detect it

but yeah it just goes on the item

[rocky copper]

Thwarted at every turn

[lucid iron]

You can limit the number of items converted a day

I wanna say you can do stuff with EditData/tokens but dunno tbh

[rocky copper]

That limit only applies per conversion rule; if you have one rule that turns Wheat into Flour and one rule that turns Beets into Sugar, the limit applies to each rule separately, so it will at the lowest result in 1 Flour and 1 Beet but not one or the other

[lucid iron]

Yeah so the suggestion is to only edit in the rule on Monday

I am not sure what the order of operations is here

[rocky copper]

I've been playing with the Conditions all day to see if they can block each other off and I can sort of get it to work, but I need something that can be triggered by a process going through that the Conditions can check

[twin wadi]

is it possible to make a conditional schedule? for example, i want to make teddy have a different schedule after viewing an event. should i do a conditional include?

[calm nebula]

Sure

[torpid sparrow]

patch with a when

[lucid iron]

You can use a stat maybe

Increment it every day and then reset to 1 at some value

[rocky copper]

Is that possible? I haven't figured out much about adding stats, but that sounds like it should work

[lucid iron]

Yeah do incrementstat in a trigger action

Trigger on day ending

[rocky copper]

Do you know how to increment the stat when the building converts an item?

That's the part I'm trying to figure out if the Building can do

[undone kelp]

I was gonna ask if i should do seb or sam first for my portrait mod but i do NOT wanna do seb's motorcycle fixing portrait rn so sam it is

[hard fern]

LOL

[undone kelp]

Gotta make things easier for me

[lucid iron]

Hrm my suggestion was gonna be day ending trigger

I don't know if mill supports running an action on item convert

[royal stump]

afaict, there's no action taken by buildings' item conversions that's detectable with CP or GSQs*, even with the frameworks I know
(other than stuff like BETAS' "detect # of items anywhere in the world", which isn't ideal for this)

[rocky copper]

I don't see that it does, that would solve this

[royal stump]

if you could theoretically run an action or set a flag when the building processes items, you could detect that with GSQs, if I understand that correctly to be the goal
but so far it looks like C# is needed

[rocky copper]

And unfortunately I am not there yet

I managed to get SYNCED_CHOICE to make it choose between multiple entries, but those only work when one of those entries is definitely going to go through; I can make three entries for the same conversion, with each applying a different color tint and make it choose only one of those entries, but that's because the choice only really matters if the item is in there to convert in the first place. I can use the same method to force it to choose between different item conversions, but then it's locked into one of those conversions whether that item is available to convert or not, so you'll have two items out of three it could convert but two will just sit there because it tried to convert the third.

This is driving me crazy because it feels like one of these tricks should somehow work, but nothing does

[lucid iron]

The answer is just no one made a mill extend framework yet

[gentle rose]

it feels weird that the mill is a building, anyway

like it just seems more like a machine

[hard fern]

🤔 ok this is a little funny. does the shipping bin only allow placement on a tile marked "diggable"

[brave fable]

would you prefer that the mill was 1x2 tiles large

it'd take a lot longer to mill ur items tho

[rocky copper]

I like the idea of there being tasks that work for machines and tasks that are bigger and require a whole building. Plus, the buildings give you more space to work with design-wise than a two tile machine. The problem is that the building's are so limited because the game only ever really made the item conversion aspect for one relatively simple task and had no other buildings that worked like it (or if they did, they ran on their own logic that I can't replicate without C#)

[lucid iron]

It's my dream to wire up some machine rules to mill

[brave fable]

isn't that what Miller Time is for?

[lucid iron]

My dumbass plan is that i put keg in the indoor map

And then make bootleg automate work

[royal stump]

I don't think so? I'm pretty sure buildings don't have any specific restrictions on tile placement, and diggable shouldn't be a rule

specific to a building type, that is

[lucid iron]

I thought millar time doesn't work in 1.6

Atm ppl are adding mill rules directly to data/buildings

[brave fable]

so.... now's my chance to push mill mod...

[lucid iron]

y e s

Ok i checked and miller time does work, just obsolete i think

[royal stump]

their listed settings seem covered by ItemConversions now, yeah

[brave fable]

so..... i can trash mill mod...

[royal stump]

depends on what it does, I guess?
Miller Time just provided a list of input/output/amount fields for them, basically, which 1.6 does now
but 1.6 can't trigger actions on production or anything, so a mod could do fun things with modData/etc

[lucid iron]

n o

I want to climb 2 stories and load the wheat by hand

[brave fable]

you are what is known in mathematics as an outlier

we are told to ignore those

[gentle rose]

what's the fun in that

[calm nebula]

I would like to explore an old mill

[gentle rose]

@ivory plume PR submitted, new schema allows tokens and/or multiple spaces in warps fields

[hollow belfry]

chat

i would like to update* or recreate this mod
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/4771?tab=posts

how would i go abt doing that?

[royal stump]

!startmodding
and if/when you're familiar with packs in general, this tutorial would probably help to make new furniture with those sprites
https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Making_Custom_Furniture_With_CP

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[hollow belfry]

ah thankyou :]