making-mods-general

[vernal crest]

I'm not actually sure how running a patch summary would help in this situation

[tribal ember]

i thought for getting the correct target asset name at least

i had that wrong

[brave fable]

(ideally it'd show the asset name loaded by SVE for you to target)

[vernal crest]

Yeah that's the part I don't know it would help about

[brittle pasture]

or run patch export Data/Buildings to see what exactly the texture name you should patch if you don't feel like digging through SVE's files

[vernal crest]

What would you run the patch summary on though? And do patch summaries show the Texture field?

[vernal crest]

Yes this is what I would do if doing a "find in files" through SVE's files for PremiumBarn hadn't helped.

[tribal ember]

i usually just look in the files for the asset names and file paths

[vernal crest]

I guess if you just did patch summary full FlashShifter.StardewValleyExpandedCP it would show you the Load patch for it.

(That is how you do patch summary by the way Bog.)

[tribal ember]

yeah this will be something i look to for troubleshooting in the future

NEW KNOWLEDGE

[vernal crest]

Ah I forgot about that section, yes that's pretty easy to see

[tribal ember]

thank you for your help<3

[toxic fulcrum]

My current project involves making lots of complex events. So I bult this UI event editor for myself to make it a little easier.

[tribal ember]

well thats just so freaking cool

[vernal crest]

Fancy!

The preview is very cool

[blissful panther]

Well that was on my list of things to do... thanks for potentially saving me the effort!

[toxic fulcrum]

Yeah, it's nice. You can click in the grid and the clicked tile's coordinates get set as current commands x,y coordinates.
Saves a lot of time.
Only downside is that (currently) the preview images are pregenerated manually.

[blissful panther]

And I imagine modded characters are graphically currently not a thing?

[vernal crest]

I actually really like writing event commands by hand but I could see this tool appealing to a lot of people!

[blissful panther]

Aba, what.

[vernal crest]

What? They're not hard!

[toxic fulcrum]

I have to think about how I could release this. There is some stuff that I can't share easily without modifications

[toxic fulcrum]

Modded characters are not really an issue. Just needs maybe some tweaking

[brittle pasture]

since whatever cursed JSON syntax Content Patcher/Newtonsoft uses support newlines writing events manually isn't that painful

[blissful panther]

Yeah, obviously no pressure to release it at all! Nothing wrong with a bespoke custom tool.

[brittle pasture]

but yeah this could be useful

[opaque field]

question, i keep getting this message when I try to compile my eggbuff The best overload for 'Method' does not have a parameter named 'prefix' ?

[brittle pasture]

you're misplacing a ) somewhere

prefix is a field on Patch, not the Method you're passing to it

[opaque field]

ahhh okay

[blissful panther]

(Which is very easy to do in the nest of parentheses you end up with manually patching with Harmony.)

[opaque field]

It's definitely something in my harmony patch

                Harmony harmony = new(ModManifest.UniqueID);
                harmony.Patch(
                  original: AccessTools.Method(typeof(NPC), nameof(NPC.grantConversationFriendship)),
                  prefix: new HarmonyMethod(typeof(ModEntry), nameof(NPC.grantConversationFriendship_Prefix))
                  )
                  );


            }```

[brittle pasture]

yep, what I said

[opaque field]

so it should like the edited version?

[brittle pasture]

now I think you have one too many ) at the end, but yes

[opaque field]

sweet, now it just says 'NPC' does not contain a definition for 'grantConversationFriendship_Prefix' and that's the only errror left (am so close I can taste the strawberrycremeegg that this goes to)

ty!

[brittle pasture]

second nameof is wrong

for future reference error messages usually point to the line number, and if you're using an actual IDE it should already be highlighted directly while you edit

[opaque field]

ahh, okay. I'm using VSCode, this has been the crashiest of crash courses haha so it shouldn't be nameof(NPC.grantConversationFriendship_Prefix)) should it just be NPC.grantConversationFriendship?

yes!

YESSSS

ok it's happy with me now

[brittle pasture]

that's also wrong

[opaque field]

ooh okay, what am I missing? I've got the wiki for harmony patching open

[brittle pasture]

also Visual Studio is the recommended C# IDE, not VSCode

[brittle pasture]

you want to patch the original NPC.grantConversationFriendship with the method ModEntry.grantConversationFriendship_Prefix

the latter of which you presumably defined somewhere in your ModEntry

[opaque field]

I did! okay, I think that did it

[brittle pasture]

see this in case you missed it

[opaque field]

ooh, okay I'll check that out. I

[brave fable]

VS Code is perfectly good to use for your JSON edits still, but very few people choose to use it over VS Community for C# since it's not built to the task at all

likewise vice versa

[opaque field]

and this is my first time using it for something other than ContentPatcher lol so I'll go do some aquiring

[ivory plume]

Sure! Can you add your GitHub account name to the community modders list?

[harsh bobcat]

oh yeah I forgot to do that when doing that huh

fixed

[dusk terrace]

level 44... almost there

[vernal crest]

I wonder if I should do that. Nearly able to at level 641...

[brittle pasture]

repo access is nice, if only because ILspy on Linux keeps failing to detect internal variable names

[vernal crest]

@ivory plume Can I get access too pls? My GitHub is on the list.

[brittle pasture]

yes I'll have a for (int num8 = num7; num8 < num9; num8++) <- statement dreamt up by the utterly deraneged

[dusk terrace]

does the repo also have code for android?

[brittle pasture]

there's an Android repo, but it's still on 1.5

last I heard Khloe's working to update it in a PR

[dusk terrace]

that'd be a huge plus

[ivory plume]

@vernal crest @harsh bobcat Invite sent! See the repo readme for more info when you accept the invite. Feel free to ask if anything is unclear.

[harsh bobcat]

Thanks!

[vital lotus]

I remember reading that it's still best to delete the lines still though. Is it no longer a thing?

[tiny zealot]

if there is a benefit to doing so, it's so small that no one will notice unless at staggering scale

(and if you got to that scale, other concerns would dominate anyway, so i doubt anyone would care even then)

[vast flicker]

Kiki is renamed to Alan, he’s a roommate npc as personally I don’t see him being in a relationship, I think he would be more of a friend that lives with you, he’s more of a shy person, reluctant to make friends but you’ll help him become more open, most of his heart events is you encouraging him to talk to others, his 8 heart event is the most important one

[toxic fulcrum]

@blissful panther again on topic of the graphical event editor... I was thinking a little bit

I think I would be down to release a version of the software/code for the editor. I just have to remove some of the more custom stuff, but it's not too much work for me.

But I think I would need some support on the packaging and support side of things. To make it installable, usable, etc. All these little things that tend to pile up.

I'm quite new to SDV modding scene so I would appreciate some help with finding volunteers / people who really would benefit from event editor like this.

[light bramble]

Ok, looking into the silo for a mod...Does changing the amount of hay it can hold require C# mods or could I do it with content patcher?

[calm nebula]

Content patcher

[light bramble]

👍

[brittle pasture]

lots of silo capacity mods you can reference

[light bramble]

Can you use variables like this in content patcher mods?

     "Action": "EditData",
     "Target": "Data/Buildings",
     "Fields": {
       "Silo": {"HayCapacity": "Capacity"}
     }
   }```
In where the the Capacity is defined in the config?

[brittle pasture]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/stable/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/config.md

[tiny zealot]

if your configschema entry is called Capacity, then use "{{Capacity}}"

[brittle pasture]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/stable/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/tokens.md for a more general guide on tokens (aka variables)

[light bramble]

Ok

thank you

[tiny zealot]

what selph said. pathos's docs are good

[jaunty shuttle]

I am a people that would really benefit from an event editor like this

I'd offer to help but I severely doubt I have the knowledge to do anything lol

[eternal hemlock]

is it possible to retexture stardew NPCs into a different sprite size than 16x32? or is it hardcoded to be that

[round timber]

i think Sprites in Detail will be what you want?

[eternal hemlock]

oh interesting

I'm specifically looking for a way to keep the same resolution/size, but in a bigger canvas per sprite

Sprites in Detail seems to work for that? 🧐

[toxic fulcrum]

Hello, thank you! It's ok if you don't have technical skills. For starters , later,I want to demo the project in a voice channel and would appreciate some company. 😊

But I think I need to reach lvl 5 on the server before I can do that, lol

[jaunty shuttle]

Oh yeah for sure, i'd be down to help in that case

[eternal hemlock]

read the documentation, ty this is what I was looking for

[tribal ore]

I've noticed that some TriggerActions that are supposed to run on DayStart don't trigger when I first load the game if I'm including them one level deep. If I put them directly into content.json they work, but if I include code.json from content.json (and code.json has the trigger actions in it), then the trigger actions exist (I checked with patch export) but aren't actually run

Not run until the next day, that is

[gaunt orbit]

Patches are re-evaluated on day start, so it's most likely an artifact of how Include works. I bet you anything that if you put variable tokens in the trigger action, it would always use the previous day's value.

Probably worth reporting on github if you can make a minimal reproduction project

[tribal ore]

I'll give the token a try, see what happens!

[pine elbow]

Hi, in Data/WildTrees the items: ShakeItems, TapItems and GrowsMoss do not appear as optional, are they really mandatory, or did they forget to put them in the wiki?

[tribal ore]

Hm. I added a "WEATHER Here Sun Wind" check to the trigger action but still no letter without going to sleep another day

[brittle pasture]

I believe those are all optional
to be really sure you can decompile StardewValley.GameData

[torpid sparrow]

hm it appears my mod is actually technically compatible with SVE just the map is a bit wonky and the town events have characters clipping with objects but all in all...compatible and not game-breaking

ugh now i feel lazy to actually fix that stuff since its so minor

[round timber]

if it functions (like events are finishing and stuff) then just put it as a low priority item on the to-do list imo

[tribal ore]

You can always do an SVE patch later, if it bothers you

[round timber]

maybe wait for some other bug/compatibility fixes to pile up too

[maiden wigeon]

good morning folks

[pine elbow]

I ended up discovering in the file that the SeedItemId is mandatory, and it's optional in the wiki, and the other 3 that I mentioned really are optional, and in the wiki it's not marked lol.

[maiden wigeon]

i was today years old when i learned vscode is not the same as visual studio

[brittle pasture]

hmm I think SeedItemId is optional, the codebase just doesnt use nullable

coconut trees dont have it

actually nvm (as in coconut trees not having it, they do)

[half tangle]

Is "FieldNameForInt": "42" or "FieldNameForInt": 42 preferred? This is almost entirely academic since the parsing time is not gonna matter, but I'm curious

(in a CP pack)

[calm nebula]

I do the later

[tiny zealot]

i prefer bare ints as well, but i always put tokens inside string quotes. e.g. "FieldNameForInt": "{{NumberToken}}",

[pine elbow]

Strange, it doesn't have what the other options have.

[rain solar]

If anyone has the time, maybe someone could tutor me in the art of mod making in DMs?

[brittle pasture]

yeah, but the code in Tree.cs checks that SeedItemId isn't null
it's a weird convention, but it is what it is

[tiny zealot]

my memory is telling me you might need quoted ints for indexes in TargetFields? but maybe i made that up, or it's a 1.5-era thing

[rain solar]

I’d love to learn 💜

[brittle pasture]

1.7 moving the codebase to using nullable pls

[half tangle]

Cool, appreciated - I'm kinda leaning toward all quotes all the time for consistency

[pine elbow]

So I can leave it as Optional in my library too

[half tangle]

!startmodding You can start to learn from here, but you can also share in here what kind of mod you want to make and folks who are around can help. It's generally much easier to get help in here from lots of people than from someone in a DM.

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[pine elbow]

In the content patcher you don't need to set a value for it, it will work

[tribal ore]

Best way to learn is to take a simple idea and make a tiny mod 🙂 There's tons of documentation, like what was already linked

[rain solar]

Ah. Okay okay

Hmm

Start small eh?

Okay. I wanna learn how to change one of the villagers to look like Zelda from Skyward Sword. And also change the name and a LITTLE text changes

Is that small enough? 😅

[tiny zealot]

it's better to do your learning in the open on here whenever possible. discord is not a great platform for finding accumulated knowledge from the past, but 1. having the conversation occur in public makes it more findable than DMs, and 2. other people who might know relevant things can chime in if they happen by

[calm nebula]

!npc

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Aviroen has put together a template that will allow you to easily create a romanceable NPC.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

• Fireredlily has a WIP NPC Builder Please do report any errors you get with it into the NPC thread!

To use this command, type !npc.

[calm nebula]

(It is legitimately easier to put in your own npc than to make a replacer)

There is even a tutorial on it

[pine elbow]

is their a tutorial for how to decompile or look through the game files

[torpid sparrow]

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[torpid sparrow]

?

[calm nebula]

!decompile too

[ocean sail]

If you want to make SMAPI mods with C#, one important resource is decompiling the game to read the game code. Here's how to do it: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#How_do_I_decompile_the_game_code.3F

To use this command, type !decompile.

[rain solar]

I see

Thas a lot

OKAY OKAY where should I start tho

Like from the top, no expirence

[round timber]

familiarizing yourself with content patcher

[rain solar]

Cause I’ve downloaded MANY mods before

Now I wanna make some

[tiny zealot]

pick a trivial-sounding mod and implement it with content patcher. say, "change one line of NPC dialogue", or "add a vanilla item to pierre's shop stock that he normally doesn't sell"

[uncut viper]

TargetField is a List<string> so yeah, no mixing and matching

[rain solar]

uh huh

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[twin wadi]

this is pretty helpful from starting from zero

yup that

[rain solar]

Okay so

!contentpacks

nope lol

[light bramble]

Here https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/stable/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide.md

[tiny zealot]

also here https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Content_Patcher

[light bramble]

^

[twin wadi]

this is helpful for a first mod https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Your_First_Content_Patcher_Pack

[rain solar]

Oooh thanks

Ima forward these to my alt

For later

[light bramble]

Kim, what is it you wanna make? (I know my first mod was a greenhouse mod...)

It was...a slight disaster...but it worked

[rain solar]

I wanna just start simple. I wanna change Haley’s model into Zelda from skyward sword

Which means I gotta learn pixel art lol

[twin wadi]

!pixelart

[ocean sail]

Where to Start With SDV-Style Pixel Art
If you've never done pixel art before, don't stress! It's easy to pick up the basics - the key is to start small, ask for feedback, and incorporate that into your work.

To start, you'll want an art program. See a list of recommended programs in the !software command.

Here's some good beginner tutorials!
http://pixeljoint.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=11299&PID=139322
https://medium.com/pixel-grimoire/how-to-start-making-pixel-art-2d1e31a5ceab

To start off, try opening an existing portrait and changing the outfit. Start small: edit a shirt pattern, change a jacket collar, or remove a scarf and draw the clothes underneath. Ask for feedback too! The best way to improve is learning how to identify what's wrong and why, so then you can work out how to fix it.

Here's more good tips from the artist of "Celeste":
General pixel art 1: https://www.patreon.com/posts/pixel-art-1-6971422
General pixel art 2: https://www.patreon.com/posts/pixel-art-part-2-11225146
Outlines: https://www.patreon.com/posts/outlines-14106192
Shading: https://www.patreon.com/posts/shading-13869731
Portraits: https://www.patreon.com/posts/portraits-8693396

SDV has a few quirks to remember too:

• Colour limits: Limit the number of shades you use - stick to six including the outline.
• Hue shifts: Rather than making shadows and highlights lighter or darker versions of the base tone, SDV shifts the hue too. Eg. a base orange will have yellow highlights and red shadows. This goes for skintones too!
• Light source: SDV uses a top-right & slightly forward light source - check the vanilla art for reference.
  Most importantly, don't hesitate to ask questions and get advice from people. Have fun!

To use this command, type !pixelart.

[torpid sparrow]

Does the spaceCore setDating npc [true/false] essentially let you do the uhh reverse proposal

or reverse asking out

[twin wadi]

i should learn spacecore functions sometime

[torpid sparrow]

im looking at the github and it looks like a lot of fun

[uncut viper]

do you mean like, the NPC asking you to date?

[torpid sparrow]

yes

[uncut viper]

yeah it should as long as you put it behind a question

[light bramble]

So for that, make sure you know all the sheets you will need to change. Haley has three.
Haley.png Haley_Beach.png Haley_Winter.png

And each one is different lengths XD

[rain solar]

Ah okay

🙂‍↕️

[iron ridge]

is this gus? (vanilla festival character sheet)

[torpid sparrow]

oh

bald gus

it looks like his shirt kinda

[twin wadi]

yup

[light bramble]

Do we have a command that shares who does art commissions?

[torpid sparrow]

!comms

[ocean sail]

If you're looking for people who do mod commissions (either art or code), here's a wiki page with a non-comprehensive list of people who do them: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions

To use this command, type !comms.

[iron ridge]

!commissions

[ocean sail]

If you're looking for people who do mod commissions (either art or code), here's a wiki page with a non-comprehensive list of people who do them: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions

To use this command, type !commissions.

[rain solar]

Ooh thanks. I’ll save that for later, but imma try to do it on my own

[light bramble]

My reasononing for asking is because I cannot make scharacter sprites to save my life....

[pine elbow]

thank you

[light bramble]

Case in point...Balding sebby #making-mods-art message

[sterile dirge]

Omw to look rn

Love bald sebby

[whole raptor]

I'm kinda tempted to add myself to event commissions (Since I'm doing one rn)

[keen seal]

what would cause an NPC’s schedule not to load? Trying to test a full schedule for my NPC since her home is done now and I don’t have any errors showing up, the validator says my json is all good, but she’s not going anywhere and Lookup Anything is telling me there’s no schedule loaded

[urban patrol]

did you Include the file?

[keen seal]

Yeah

[whole raptor]

You need to sleep for a day or two for schedule to set in (I think..)

[keen seal]

Oh!!

[urban patrol]

yeah sleep for one day and if it still doesn’t load then we’ll keep troubleshooting

[keen seal]

Sounds good, I’ll be back XD

AH, started a proper test save file and warped over there, and LA is registering her schedule now!

Thanks yall

[urban patrol]

yay!

[serene moat]

Hello! Does anyone know I can get my eventprop here on top of Linus' campfire? I have tried to remove tiles from the map with /removeTile, tried /removeObject and /removeSprite as well

[urban patrol]

what command are you using to add your pot? if it's TAS, then you can set the layer it's on

[serene moat]

I'm using /addTemporaryActor Hange_cookingsprite 16 32 29 9 2 false Character

[urban patrol]

i think temporary actors are usually for living things, like the animals in the petting zoo at the fair

try using a temporary animated sprite instead, or if it's an object you could try addObject

[whole raptor]

Is it possible to animate... positionOffset on farmer?

[torpid sparrow]

yes

i think so i swear ive used it

[whole raptor]

Oh? As in the offset is looping, while the dialogues go on

[torpid sparrow]

ohh

not sure

[light bramble]

small question for i18n-ifying my mods...is it frowned upon to use google translate?

[whole raptor]

Okay.. maybe I can do it without offset... but how do frames work when it comes to animate farmer... is it something like this?

[whole raptor]

That's translating, not i18nifing btw

[light bramble]

That's what I meant >_<

[torpid sparrow]

i would say probably?

there are plenty of people out here who can translate

who are native speakers

so seeking them out is probably best cause google translate can make mistakes

or can't really capture what you mean to say in the way you wanna in a diff language

[uncut viper]

i think Nomori might've just meant there's a distinction between internationalization and translation. they aren't equal
also yes it's generally frowned upon, if someone wanted a bad Google translate into their language they could do it themselves

[torpid sparrow]

as long as you have i18n support people will ask if they can translate

[whole raptor]

If you don't know the language then yeah... I'd say it's not the greatest idea
If you know the language and can fix the mistakes machine translations do, then I don't see why it can't be used

[torpid sparrow]

i mean they will also ask if you don't have i18n support but you get it

[light bramble]

Well time to wait lol

[urban patrol]

i would think that using it to supplement already-existing knowledge of a language would be fine (e.g., what was the word for dog again? oh yeah, that's right), but it frequently chokes when it runs into long texts or culturally-specific knowledge

[uncut viper]

also, supposedly Google translate's AI sometimes just hallucinates things now

[torpid sparrow]

love that /s

[urban patrol]

this is true, it's gotten notably worse

DeepL is a bit better but everything with AI is some level of enshittified these days

[light bramble]

I just wanted to do something to help, but I might try to do stuff for spanish at least...I know a bit of spanish, and I use word reference for simple words

[whole raptor]

I wrote like 15 pages explaining distinction between the 2 for my masters, so I felt a strong urge to correct 😅

(Well... 3, since localization was there too)

[uncut viper]

I would've mentioned globalization too but I didn't feel like counting the letters bc I forgor

[light bramble]

Imma just wait longer then XD I know some spanish, but other langagues are....lacking

[whole raptor]

Oh yeah, that too

[uncut viper]

suddenly it makes a lot more sense why you were the one to make the i18nifier though

[final arch]

@blissful panther is Hot Reload with Rider still working for you?
I swear it used to work for me, but now it only works in Release mode. When Im in Debug mode, hot reload fails again iht the "Could not found output assembly". I have <DebugType>pdbonly</DebugType>
in my csproj in the first PropertyGroup

[whole raptor]

I'd say you absolutely don't need to translate your mod by yourself, if someone offers the translation then great, if not then it's not a big deal

[light bramble]

And since I DO NOT use doulingo anymore (I got tired of them pushing their primum on me on mobile after EVERY LESSON and they went "AI first") I'm unable to find a place to learn 😭

[whole raptor]

I got the idea for my masters from the i18nifier tbh

[blissful panther]

Unfortunately, I haven't touched Windows for months now, so I actually don't know!

Now I'm stuck with not being able to debug.

[uncut viper]

(I use hot reload with Rider just fine)

[thorn hinge]

Hello, folks! I have a question.
Is there a mod that Sebastian or Elliott are playable, like the mod "playable Abigail"? Is it hard to make it?

[urban patrol]

#modded-stardew would probably know more

is it just a retexture, or do you mean you want to remove sebastian or elliott from the game

[brittle pasture]

to summarize the modded-farmers talk: all that mod does is retexture the farmer into Abigail, so what you can make is something like a Fashion Sense cosmetic pack

[thorn hinge]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/8302

This mods allows you to play as Abigail.

I'd like to know if there are mods for other villagers.

I've checked this mod and it works well.

[torpid sparrow]

that's so funny

[brittle pasture]

(you can follow what it does and retexture farmer base, but that's a ticket to pant spriting madness)

[thorn hinge]

hmmm...i see

[winged crow]

Does anyone know what are these 8 tiles for? I see it in many farm maps, they're untillable and cannot place furniture on top, but I never understood the reason for these tiles, are they necessary?

[urban patrol]

i believe they're used for some spouse activities

[brittle pasture]

spouse patio

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Marriage#Spouse_Outside_Area

[winged crow]

oh I see, if I'm in coop, what would happen if both me and the farmhand marry an NPC?

[brittle pasture]

only the host's spouse has the privilege to use the area

[winged crow]

nvm just read it

to change where it would be, it's this propertie, right?

[brittle pasture]

yep

[winged crow]

awesome thanks!

[final arch]

on windows?

any special setting you use besides that line in the csproj? 🤔

[uncut viper]

i dont have the line in the csproj

it Just Works™

i cant remember if i had to change any settings

[final arch]

mhh damn

ty tho 😄

[uncut viper]

i do have these ones turned on actually. are they still enabled for you or did Rider reset them with an update or somethin

[calm nebula]

Sheku why rider

[final arch]

Im using Intellij at work (because Im a Java dev) and Rider is very similar

[calm nebula]

Oh

[final arch]

I tried getting VSC to be closer with ReSharper etc but was only partly successful

[calm nebula]

I forgot

You have my condolences

[final arch]

xD

[uncut viper]

(whats wrong with Rider)

[calm nebula]

Not rider

Java

[uncut viper]

oh

[final arch]

guess its just an honest question why Rider over VS?

[calm nebula]

Rider over VS is an honest question

Java though

[final arch]

Just more Java jobs than C#

also I didnt care that much and didnt look that hard xD

[calm nebula]

I mean you could easily pick on me for....well

[final arch]

(had the same settings, sadly) ty tho

[calm nebula]

Everything

[final arch]

yeah but you know, Im nice

[calm nebula]

Yeah

I remember you once bullying me into becoming orange 😛

[final arch]

I have no memory of that :p

[calm nebula]

It was years ago

[brittle pasture]

I use Linux btw

[calm nebula]

You can see I'm no longer orange

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #6489 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1392611990165258272)

[final arch]

yeah

I want the cool af local legend thing too

[calm nebula]

It just shows i don't actually have a life

Also, you're modding again o.I

Can I look forward to a fun new sheku mod

[pine elbow]

Um-

What did I do????

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/4395d0c79745486dae8935418c2a31b5

here's the code check

[hard fern]

Oh you might have forgot a bracket somewhere

[final arch]

Im helping Kedi debug stuff xD

[uncut viper]

!log please send actual logs and not just pictures

[final arch]

I still have my half-finished updates lying around

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[pine elbow]

AH!

[final arch]

maybe one day

[pine elbow]

Yeah it was a bracket

[hard fern]

I know this from experience unfortunately lol

[pine elbow]

Will keep it in mind, my bad

[keen seal]

does anyone know which tilesheet these pieces from harvey's clinic are in? i'm not seeing them in the townInterior sheets (tho i could just be missing them)

(the sink and the trash can, i have the poster)

[urban patrol]

maybe town interior 2?

i know i've used them for my maps

[hard fern]

The trash can is just in town interior the normal one

[keen seal]

AH

[hard fern]

Ill find the exact spot

[keen seal]

i had checked 2 but my eyes did indeed miss the sink XD

[hard fern]

trash can is by the couches

[keen seal]

thank you!

[pine elbow]

Okay another problem, it's not recognizing a key?
https://smapi.io/log/cf456a1987aa4b7ca55d94cda02378bc

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Unix 6.8.0.63, with 5 C# mods and 1 content packs.

[hard fern]

missing another }

at the end of {{ModId}

[pine elbow]

OEGHHHH

That code was written at 3 am and it SHOWS

[calm nebula]

(Whatever you make it'll be cool )

[whole raptor]

Doing code mod commissions is kinda fun

[finite willow]

has anyone implemented rpc for stardew valley before'

as in the protocol for remote code execution

[brittle pasture]

what's the use case

[urban patrol]

does anyone know the speed of move commands? like how many ms per 1 tile walked?

[brittle pasture]

like if you just need clients to communicate with each other in an MP game that's already a thing

[finite willow]

remote code execution to use python to interact with the game

I got it running using http

but It is wacky

[brittle pasture]

in that case it's definitely possible (see the Discord rich presence mod)

[devout otter]

Doing troubleshooting, and can a kind sould give insight on what's happening with those huge yellow text here. xnb mod, maybe? https://smapi.io/log/f36c9dd5ebaa4455b135cc1a23efe791

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home Single Language, with 79 C# mods and 96 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[lucid iron]

Why do you need to use python tho

You'd have to write all the "do stuff" commands in C# anyways no?

[lucid iron]

Did they try verifying game files

[ivory plume]

Those are custom NPCs added by a mod they uninstalled (note the · characters in the NPC names). SMAPI automatically removes the broken NPCs, so they'll be gone if the player saves in-game after those warnings are shown.

[devout otter]

Yar, so basically there's a mod add there that maybe add two copies of vanilla villagers?

[ivory plume]

Yep, it creates extra copies of NPCs and appends · to their name to make them unique. (I wish that mod used a unique ID though, those NPCs often cause confusion when troubleshooting.)

[devout otter]

Oh this is not actually their problem. I'm just curious.

[devout otter]

Case in point, here. 😅 Thank you for the insight!

[toxic fulcrum]

I added the ability to freely move the viewport position around the map to my custom event editor.

[whole raptor]

Those are NPC clones from a certain NSFW mod... I'd recognize those · anywhere since it gave me so much headache in the past with "bug reports"

[urban patrol]

if you do release this, i'll be soooo excited! it looks awesome

[finite willow]

is it really rpc?

thought it would be something else

[brittle pasture]

well I mean remote network interfaces in general

though I believe discord uses rpc too

[brittle pasture]

also what chu said here

[lucid mulch]

RPC (remote procedure calls) and the (remote code execution) are very different things

RPC is asking existing code on the other side to run according to the network API contract.

RCE is execute this code I've sent over the wire

RPC is the term for most network protocols, while rce is a category of security vulnerabilities

[keen seal]

more map troubles, anyone know what the problem here is? https://smapi.io/log/5f079040fc544de68fd04d4313b5a0b1

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 53 C# mods and 68 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[keen seal]

the tilesheet it's having issues with is working on two other map so idk why its causing issues for the new one

[uncut viper]

your tilesheets arent embedded and it seems like it cannot find your tsx

[keen seal]

oh i see what's going on. that is. bizarre

the path it's trying to take is the path in my mods folder and the path to the version i have saved in my documents folder smushed together

figured out how to embed them 🫡

[jaunty shuttle]

Ooooooo that's cool

[vital dew]

bumping this inquiry from yesterday if that's okay
debugging didnt work so im not sure how to bypass this besides setting the day back --> using sun totem --> resting and hoping

[outer verge]

help 😭

even when he was previously normal he never faced the direction i wanted to even tho i changed the values in his schedule, if anyone could help with that lol

[brave fable]

so why is it that the bus is parked on the left side of the road in the BusStop map, when the intro clearly shows they drive on the right in stardew valley

boy i hope someone got fired for that blunder

[tiny zealot]

nah, the road there is one-way, so left park is fine

[balmy valve]

Waah

I am

So confused rn

So my mod, CtrlAltZero, needs tilesheets to load

but someone told me in nexus mods that i didn't need the tilesheets inside the mod folder and that keeping them in there would overwrite any tile mods that other players had

so i said okie dokie and deleted them

BUT NOW THERES A GAZILLION SMAPI ERRORs

https://smapi.io/log/290e184d9a82471682a817c121ed606e

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 6 C# mods and 2 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[balmy valve]

AND FOR SOME REASON- "HasSeenEvent" is no longer working???

[slow basin]

was it a custom tilesheet?

[balmy valve]

NOOO

THE NORMAL ASS TOWN SHEETS

[slow basin]

it looks like the path might be trying to find the old path from within the mod

[balmy valve]

Should I share my screen? I feel like this may be an issue with the way my maps are setup in Tiled

[slow basin]

instead of using the assets from the game

someone else will have more knowledge on this but i think your issue might be your pathing

idk how to fix it off the top of my head though its been a very long time since i last used tiled

[brave fable]

pretty sure the issue here is that you've deleted your TSX file as well as the PNG files that you don't need

[balmy valve]

AH

jeezusd

Keep the TSX not the PNG got it

[brave fable]

with a non-TSX tileset, the tileset data is baked into the map, so it knows what assets to ask the game to load (your PNGs), but since you've exported that tileset data to a file and then deleted it, it's clueless

[balmy valve]

ok 😭

[balmy valve]

it screams at me whenever i delete the vanilla PNG files

[hard fern]

Yeah because the map thinks they're missing

[brave fable]

is "it" Tiled or SDV?

[balmy valve]

Smapi

[brave fable]

gonna need a smapi log then chief

[balmy valve]

tf is this

it's

whu

?????

[balmy valve]

on it

[balmy valve]

https://smapi.io/log/21abbbfc4efe4321ac234019c05777f2

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 6 C# mods and 2 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[balmy valve]

here ya go

replicated the conditions (removed all vanilla tilesheets from my sheets folder within the mod)

[vernal crest]

!tilesheetclimbing

[ocean sail]

When creating or editing maps in Tiled, one common error is tilesheet climbing, marked by red text containing "invalid tilesheet path '../../..'. This is caused by SMAPI not being able to find the tilesheets needed by the map file. To prevent this error, make sure that you have a copy of all necessary tilesheets in the folder containing your WIP tmx file. Copies of vanilla tilesheets can later be deleted, but must be present while working on your map.

If you get this error with a completed map, an easy way to fix it is to open your tmx file in VS Code or a similar text editor, find all of the places with <image source=, and remove the filepaths to so that only the tilesheet names remain. For example, if the code says <image source="Content (unpacked)/Maps/townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>, change it to just <image source="townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>.

To use this command, type !tilesheetclimbing.

[vernal crest]

You must have all the tilesheets in the same folder as the map while editing, not in other folders.

[balmy valve]

I do

But this is not while I'm editing, this is the actual game loading

[brave fable]

⤴️ while not a tilesheet climbing issue, you've got them in a sheets subfolder, which won't work

[vernal crest]

That log is pointing to a sheets folder

[balmy valve]

Okay so I just gotta. Take em out??

[brave fable]

yep!

[balmy valve]

Like put the vanilla tilesheets into the Maps folder?

Like the pngs??

Because the PNGs are all that I removed

[brave fable]

take them out of the sheets folder

and place them in the same folder as the tmx file

[balmy valve]

ok

But that doesn't solve the other issue??

[vernal crest]

That's only step one

[brave fable]

once you've saved your working copy, you can move the map file without the tilesheet image files to the mod copy

[balmy valve]

wha

That's what I did

[vernal crest]

You need them back in the map folder so you can open your map in Tiled and redirect it to the tilesheets that are in the same folder as your map

And then you delete the tilesheets/move the map (depending on whether the map is already in your mod's map folder or not - if it is, you move the tilesheets, otherwise you move the map).

[balmy valve]

I delete the tilesheet PNGs?

[brave fable]

consider this: the game is prepared to load townInteriors.png image when a map has a tileset with the path townInteriors, but your map has a tileset with the path sheets/townInteriors, so the game won't load the image

[balmy valve]

okay wait i think i get it!!

So because of the sheets subfolder

The game is blocked from loading tilesheets from the content folder

Right?

Can I keep my custom tilesheet pngs in the sheets folder?

[brave fable]

it's not blocked, it's just that the name doesn't match it's no different to using cat-haha.png instead of townInterior.png, it's looking for an exact match

i think you can, but for simplicity's sake it's best you keep them in the same folder

[vernal crest]

Unless you want them to be able to be edited by other mods, because keeping them in the same folder as the map will block that

Tilesheets in the map folder will always be used over tilesheets in the game's content

Which is why shipping vanilla tilesheets in your map folder prevents recolours from working

[balmy valve]

Okay

So now I have opened Tiled and directed every single tilesheet to the ones in my mod's map folder

Now I can delete the tilesheet PNGs from my mod's map fodler, corrent?

[uncut viper]

(unless you prefix them with a . if you want)

(helpful for working on a mod, not so much for shipping it tho, still should ideally remove em)

[balmy valve]

Alright

Here goes nothin'

YEs everything still works

Except

What is this

Why is it saying that

That's where my custom tilesheets are. Why is it counting as a mod?

https://smapi.io/log/e63fe0edf1d148fca279c4e1e8ca3775

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 6 C# mods and 2 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[balmy valve]

Here's the log

[brave fable]

what folder is your manifest file in?

[balmy valve]

just the- the mod folder

[brave fable]

that's a different mod folder

the error is looking at FallSpice.AltagraciaMod, this is FallSpice.CtrlAltZero

[balmy valve]

i forgot to change the name in that instance

Ok lemme check my content folder

o

silly me

i had an old folder just...sitting with the rest of my mods fsrt

fsr*

Thank you for your help 😭

[brave fable]

no problem silly mistakes with simple solutions

[balmy valve]

Aaaand updated!

I also added update keys

Because

I am God

And God taketh care of their sobjects

subjects*

god no make typo, it's intentional

I should really have mod problems more often.

I'm trying to get to level 25 so I can request modmaker roles, but I don't want to spam

[brave fable]

don't forget you do still need the mod to get the mod author role

[balmy valve]

I know

I have the mod

I've made the mod

I've published it too

Hey, how do you guys test dialogue for NPC mods? Are there debug commands for it? There's a lot of dialogue I need to check (schedule! green rain! etc!) and i simply don't know how to do it all, especially more random ones like resort dialogue.

[brittle pasture]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Console_commands#Dialogue

the commands at least will let you know if they're properly formatted

[vernal crest]

debug loaddialogue <NpcInternalName> Characters/Dialogue/<NpcInternalName>:<key>

[tiny zealot]

debug speech yourNPC "the literal text you want to test"
debug loaddialogue yourNPC "your/dialogue/asset:dialogueKey"

[vernal crest]

Are there any functional differences between schedule dialogue and schedule animation dialogue? They seem to work the same way in my quick testing.

[calm nebula]

Not really iirc

[tiny zealot]

i didn't know those were different things, so i think not?

[slow basin]

is there a way to load up different possible dialogues for the same day? like spring 1: "dialogue" but then have a chance for them to say something else instead just so it feels less stifled and more dfynamic

[calm nebula]

(BTW, EventTester has a go-through-all-of-an-npc's dialogue command)

[vernal crest]

Yup, many ways! Let me find the i18n randomisation tutorial for you if I can.

[slow basin]

Oh! ok thank you!

[torpid sparrow]

WAIT this is life-changing

[slow basin]

because I want to pack a lot of stuff into this character to make her interesting to talk to

[vernal crest]

Here we go: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tips:_Using_i18n_for_Easy_Dialogue_Randomisation

[slow basin]

ty ty

🫶

[tiny zealot]

my only tip here is you probably need less than you might expect. most players won't see all of your dialogues

[slow basin]

true 🙂‍↕️

I should find a good balance then 🤔

[vernal crest]

Ignore ichor, ignore him!

[balmy valve]

What is EventTester?

[vernal crest]

Put all the dialogue!

[slow basin]

XD

[brittle pasture]

dialogue randomization does help greatly to give your NPC more lines without filling out the entire calendar

[balmy valve]

The way that I'm currently making sure it works is by copying exact keys from Abigail's dialogue.json

[vernal crest]

Mod for helping you test events! So far the only thing I have actually used it for is the speeding up time, but I use it for that a lot: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/19458

[torpid sparrow]

i forgot u could do that that sounds like a fun challenge

28 * 4 * 7 heart levels at least 784 lines ou

[vernal crest]

I have decided to approach this by giving Hiria mandatory dialogue lines that the player must see in order to progress her heart level and then many, many, many lines that the player may never see. The hope is that she will have a core story that nobody will miss out on but outside of that she will still be interesting for repeat playthroughs.

[slow basin]

thats kinda what i wanna do

[vernal crest]

Of course this approach relies on wanting to write lots of lines for a character because bucketloads of tired, generic dialogue is no more interesting than limited dialogue anyway.

[calm nebula]

After chatting aboit it in #modded-stardew I kinda want to explore marniexlewis

[slow basin]

i want the player to learn more about my character and her little story on realizing she doesnt need to strive to impress anyone or ;'be the best' and that she can be content with herself

[calm nebula]

Will i? No

[slow basin]

but i also want her to feel less like a standard character and be more than just her struggles

[tiny zealot]

i took the much lazier approach of putting the critical stuff in the heart events

[torpid sparrow]

marniexlewis 500k angst fwb to lovers

[vernal crest]

You should make amigurumi of them Atra!

[slow basin]

current thought processe:

• granduaghter of the witch from hansel and gretal,

• doesnt want to do a lot of magic because she's very clumsy with it and accidentally made a gummy bear come to life,

• ran away and joined the circus at one point

• ??? maybe have her already know the wizard, like maybe he was old mentor of hers before she decided magic wasnt for her and decided to move away from the valley to join the circus but has recently moved home to inherit her grandmothers house and items,

• its been a few years since she moved away and she's more emotionally mature now and patient and figured out that although she doesnt have a talent for magic she does for magical sweets and things,

• she sells these to the player and as you gain more hearts with her she gives you recipes for them

[vernal crest]

I don't think it can really be called lazy when that's the approach the game itself takes! I just don't like heart events all that much so I wanted to explore options for fleshing her out that didn't involve more events than strictly necessary for the story I wanted to tell.

[tiny zealot]

(/lh this is absolutely not a criticism)
the wizard has so many custom NPC apprentices at this point, it's getting out of hand /j

[slow basin]

can you have more than justt he standard number of heart events

[hard fern]

yes

[slow basin]

🙂‍↕️

cool

[hard fern]

you can also have less. you can have none

[tiny zealot]

you can have as many or as few events as you want

[vernal crest]

I definitely want to make an NPC with zero heart events

[torpid sparrow]

youre not limited to the even numbers either

as is the convention i think for vanilla

[slow basin]

i dont wanna shove it full but i want it to feel more like your learning more before learn like a lot

[brave fable]

zero dialogue. zero heart events. just standing there menacingly

[vernal crest]

But yeah you could have millions of events for an NPC if you wanted to

[tiny zealot]

thinking about an NPC with procedurally generated heart events

[slow basin]

i dont want it to be like heart even 2 she doesnt wanna tell you anything and then heart event 4 you know her whole life story

[pine elbow]

This intrigues me. How did you go about doing this?

[calm nebula]

Sits and knit

[brave fable]

gil moment.

[slow basin]

i have a gummy bear character that almost ended up like that just because i made him grumpy and shy

[tiny zealot]

if i sits, i knits

[pine elbow]

Take this with a grain of salt because I haven't even completed my NPC events yet: Methinks having a solid 2, 4, 6 format for story beats is a good principle to start with, then add more in between as needed/wanted

[slow basin]

but now i think ill have a thing where he gets to know the player and opens up more

his creator ran away from home an ddidnt take him with her

[vernal crest]

Complexly lol. I have split Hiria's heart levels into sections (stranger 0-1 hearts, acquaintance 1-3, friend 3-5, close friend 5-7, etc) and the player can't go above the current section's max heart level until the specified events, dialogue, and mail have been seen. To do that, I use a trigger action to set Hiria's friendship level back to its section max every night.

It involves a ridiculous number of trigger actions, CTs, and mail flags.

[hard fern]

the angle im thinking of for the heart events i have not started started is like. for my npcs to already have lives and stuff, and that the player can't change them. the player is just an observer, and plays a different role for everyone in their stories. i want to focus more on the relationships between npcs compared to the relationships between the npc and the player 😅 i dunno if that makes any sense. i definitely want some of my npcs to care more about the player than others

[vernal crest]

Would not recommend to others, especially because of the number of users who will go "her heart level isn't going up! She's broken!!!!"

[pine elbow]

💫

[slow basin]

Oo fair

[tiny zealot]

aba, you have been learning the dark arts (C#), right? implementing that system with less... overhead might be a good project!

[vernal crest]

I have been learning C# but I am still extremely tiny baby with it. I am not averse to one day attempting to shift it all to C# instead especially if I can see the actual performance hit my CP approach causes xD

[pine elbow]

This is what I'm trying to do (I say, with a monster reveal arc in my pocket)). I want my NPC to feel like she's been there for a long time

[tiny zealot]

all good! perf is likely not much of a concern, just maintainability (from my perspective, anyway)

[slow basin]

I kinda wanna make my character feel like she's lived in the valley before like i want characters to mention her after he first heart event when she first moves back but idk how to go about doing that or if its possible with content patcher

[vernal crest]

Yup that's possible with CP

[slow basin]

like the day after or of the characters being like "can you believe it? X finally moived back i remember when she was just a little girl"

[pine elbow]

It's definitely possible with patches, yeah

[slow basin]

OO ok!!

yay!

[hard fern]

my main reason for wanting to leave the player out ngl is mostly because i just don't like writing a blank self insert MC, since like. idk...sometimes i think the player is lame...

[tiny zealot]

conversation topics are designed for this type of behavior explicitly. very easy to do with CP

[pine elbow]

This just in: Shrimp finds you, personally, boring /j

[slow basin]

awesome sauce :3 excited to do it then!!!

[pine elbow]

I'm more excited to edit existing NPC dialogue and schedules than I am to do my own NPC's....ha

[vernal crest]

I also struggle with motivation for making Hiria interested in the farmer. They're so blank that there's nothing to hook into.

[brave fable]

really makes you empathise with haley doesn't it

[hard fern]

mhm... ive gone with the "you know what none of my npcs can be romanced" option for that reason because.. why would my npcs want to uproot their lives and pack up to go across the ocean to live in a town with strangers on the player's farm. surely love isnt that powerful.

[pine elbow]

I'm going with the "why are you pestering me with gifts" route. Have the farmer show interest first to get to the meat and potatoes, I guess

[visual dirge]

i wanted to do a similar thing (with quests to unlock higher heart levels instead of dialogue lines) and planned to make it so the social page obviously showed the heart cap by not drawing empty hearts above the max -- would this be a good idea to make into a library? or as a pr to an existing library?

[pine elbow]

But then...if everyone is Shane, then no one is

[vernal crest]

I think you'd probably get interest if you made it a framework available to content modders. I'm not sure if that's what you mean by making it into a library or if you mean making it into a library available for C# modders - if the latter, I don't think we tend to use libraries much outside of Harmony but I'm too baby to be confident in that lol

[pine elbow]

Margo is romanceable because I'm personally down bad for her (kind of joking but not really)

[vital lotus]

This is currently what i'm tryna do with my npcs as well... A couple, and farmer there to witness their love story 🤣

[visual dirge]

oh yeah by library i mean available to content patcher

sorry im used to the difference between "library" and "framework" being a matter of scale instead of functionality

[pine elbow]

I'd personally love a framework like this

[balmy valve]

Can non-dateable NPCs react to the dumped events?

[tiny zealot]

yeah, anybody with the correct key will comment on it

[vernal crest]

Yup they can use the CTs

[balmy valve]

ok!

[pine elbow]

How it feels to procrastinate on modding by chatting in modding channels: 🍭

[balmy valve]

Please that'

That's so real

me when sausage finger press enter before i type mesage

Alta's reactions to the farmer getting dumped are so so funny. because she instantly goes from this mild-mannered, polite young lady into full Mama bear mode

"You. Maru's been crying. What have you done?"
"Harvey told me everything. You deplorable worm. Go play Black and White if you want to catch them all."

[visual dirge]

would need to make sure the display parts of the code are compatible with common mods that affect the same code -- i think i've seen a lot of people using that fractional hearts mod?

[vernal crest]

Fractional hearts mod?

[visual dirge]

the one that makes the hearts gradually fill up w red as you gain friendship

dunno what its called

[vernal crest]

This is the first I am hearing of it

[visual dirge]

i see it a lot in screenshots 😅

[balmy valve]

can you erase non-dateable NPC memories with the shrine of memory?

[uncut viper]

the hearts already gradually gain red

[vernal crest]

Ah, erinthe's partial hearts

(Aedenthorn)

[balmy valve]

n-no they don't

[uncut viper]

guess i should figure out what in my mod list does it then bc i dont have erinthes

[pine elbow]

The color of water in a fish pond is supposed to be editable, right?

[vernal crest]

Yup

[pine elbow]

Does it take the color name options or just the number values? I’m trying to get it to be golden but it isn’t cooperating

[devout otter]

UI Info Suite 2 also does that.

[uncut viper]

ah, thatd be it then

i forgot i had that installed

[visual dirge]

oh gosh that mod

[pine elbow]

What's wrong with Ui suite? /gen

[uncut viper]

it takes a named colour, RGB(A), or a hex code

[visual dirge]

just that last time i tried to use it there were a lot of bugs 😅

i hope compat with it wouldn't be too difficult

[brittle pasture]

check https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Common_data_field_types#Color for examples

[pine elbow]

I checked there to get the color name, did I miss something??
Here's my code https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/b6534c5ecf8d4b27a23964e4b60fb427
The fish pond data's at the end

[grizzled crescent]

Can someone explain what this person is specifically asking me to do?

[brittle pasture]

does your mod use i18n

[torpid sparrow]

im assuming not if theyre looking for the default.json

[grizzled crescent]

I'm not sure
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/20761?tab=description

[torpid sparrow]

but yeah theyre asking you to provide i18n support

it allows people to translate all the dialogue and names and descriptions to other languages

[grizzled crescent]

How do I go about doing that?

[brittle pasture]

yeah, what you need to do is pull every user-visible strings into a separate i18n file

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/stable/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/translations.md

[torpid sparrow]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Translation

[brittle pasture]

there's also an automatic converter you can use: https://nom0ri.github.io/sdv-i18nifier-app/

[torpid sparrow]

is there a step-by-step tutorial

i just figured it out but i cannot communicate that in a helpful way lol unless i too write it out step by step

of course pathos has one

[grizzled crescent]

Thank you guys so much! I was super lost

[vernal crest]

I found when using the colour field for crops that not all of the colours actually work, so try it with some different colours to see if it's just the gold not working.

[pine elbow]

Alrighty will do, thx

[brittle pasture]

does your pond have 10 fish

[pine elbow]

yes

I tested a few colors, including one from unpacked vanilla fishpond data and none worked, so it shouldn't be the color

It couldn't be because I named it "JellyTime" in the "Id", could it?

[brittle pasture]

oh wait a second

I believe I see the issue

"Condition": "null"
this is always false

[uncut viper]

the classic null != "null"

[pine elbow]

So I should just remove that line?

[brittle pasture]

or "Condition": null

but yes yeet it

[devout otter]

Need math assurances (it's modding related, I swear.) If A is default. And B has 1/2 chance of appearing instead of A. And C has 1/3 chance of appearing instead of A or B... The chance of each of them appearing is equal, right?

[brittle pasture]

assuming that C is checked first, then B, then A, yes

[devout otter]

Great! Thank you.

[pine elbow]

That was it

Smh, I was just copying the vanilla data

[uncut viper]

just in case it was unclear, the issue was less having the condition at all and entirely bc of the quotes you put around it. vanilla does not have the quotes around it, which is why its fine and why selph said you could do that too. but putting it in quotes makes it a different Type and not actually null
this will be true if you ever try and write "null" anywhere else too so good to keep in mind

[pine elbow]

Oooooohhh I see

Thanks for explaining!

[slow basin]

im gonna ask so many questions about replacing my skeletal structure with i18n when the time comes >.>

[torpid sparrow]

its not too bad! nomori has an i18n converter that makes things much easier

[slow basin]

OOO yippeee!!

[visual dirge]

thoughts on making an npc who's unaffected by the dark shrine of memory and just comments on you using it?

(perhaps with different dialogue for if they were the only divorced spouse that would have had their memory erased vs if there were others too)

[hard fern]

i think that would be funny

[visual dirge]

magically proficient npc like "I KNOW WHAT YOU TRIED its not gonna work i still hate you" lmao

would be especially funny if divorcing said magically proficient npc had like, very minor negative effects that sometmes come up

like once a year they curse you for a day or something

i think im cooking with this idea this is so funny

[fallow tartan]

Hello everyone, does anyone know how to develop mods? I can pay, and I can pay you via Alipay. The mod's functions are very simple. Please, could you experts help me?

[torpid sparrow]

people do commissions although im not sure if many people accept alipay

[brittle pasture]

!commissions

[ocean sail]

If you're looking for people who do mod commissions (either art or code), here's a wiki page with a non-comprehensive list of people who do them: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions

To use this command, type !commissions.

[fallow tartan]

!commissions

[ocean sail]

If you're looking for people who do mod commissions (either art or code), here's a wiki page with a non-comprehensive list of people who do them: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions

To use this command, type !commissions.

[visual dirge]

warning, if you say something like this in the server you will likely get direct messages from scammers claiming to be modders. be careful who you commission!

[fallow tartan]

okok thanks

[visual dirge]

use the wiki link to find people, don't trust people who dm you

[fallow tartan]

I am Chinese, and currently, there are very few experts in China who develop Stardew Valley mods.

[torpid sparrow]

that is unfortunate; i think my mom told me alipay is only used by people with some sort of chinese ID?

(im chinese)

if there aren't that many people you've found in china that make mods im not sure it'll be easier here tbh

[outer verge]

i've never used c++ before, whats the rule behind when to use a comma to close and when to not?

[visual dirge]

do you mean c#?

[outer verge]

yeah oops

[visual dirge]

wdym by "comma to close"?

like a trailing comma?

[outer verge]

yeah

beacsue some statments have em and others don't and i cant figure out the patterns lol

[visual dirge]

c# tends to not allow trailing commas in older syntax constructs but allows them in newer ones

e.g. method arguments don't allow trailing commas but array initializers do

[clear bough]

Would I need an entire sprite sheet for the tourist?

[visual dirge]

that's not c#, that's json 😅

[outer verge]

😭

sorry, ive never used json or c#, only java

but i was curious why the top fromfile had a comma, but the second one doesn't (not my code, just using it to study/reference)

[iron ridge]

its at the end so a comma is optional

[visual dirge]

official standards-compliant json doesn't allow trailing commas ever, but stardew valley uses a modified version of json that allows many things outside the standards. trailing commas are never necessary

[outer verge]

,,,ah

LOL ty

[visual dirge]

if you're planning on ever committing your code to line-based version control like git, it may be beneficial to use trailing commas whenever the object or array is split across multiple lines

[outer verge]

good for organizing then

[visual dirge]

to be clear, trailing commas are commas followed by } or ]

[ivory plume]

You'll need a tilesheet for the sprite on the map, but you don't necessarily need to create a new one. You can use any valid map tilesheet (including a vanilla one).

You can look at Central Station's assets/tourists.tmx file as an example.

[visual dirge]

commas are still necessary between the entries in objects and between the items in arrays

[outer verge]

i see, ty

[fallow tartan]

Folks, actually, my need is really simple but I just can’t get it to work. I want to make it so that after launching Stardew Valley, it automatically jumps to the hostcoop page and clicks on the first save file. So far, I’ve managed to get it to jump to the hostcoop page successfully, but I still have no idea how to make it click on the first save file. Could you guys give me some advice? Thanks a lot.

[visual dirge]

to summarize..

• within { ... } and [...], you need commas to separate items
• the last comma before the final } or ] is a trailing comma
  • trailing commas are against the official json spec but optionally allowed for stardew valley modding
  • you probably want to use trailing commas if they're at the end of a line, but if it's all on the same line there's no need to

[fallow tartan]

👀

[visual dirge]

i would write this without a trailing comma

{ "a": "b", "c": "d" }
```but i would write this with a trailing comma
```json
{
    "a": "b",
    "c": "d",
}
```because that's what works best for line-based version control (git)

[outer verge]

oooh

sorry for the bother, but do you perhaps have any idea why my npc is doing , uh, that

[iron ridge]

is it possible to run the game from the decompile repo?

[urban patrol]

i have an idea for a handheld mirror that teleports you to the NPC's room. would it be better to make it a tool, like the return scepter, or an object? does it matter?

[hard fern]

ok uhh... 😅 do you have an image of your npc's spritesheet

[torpid sparrow]

That's happened to me before

cannot remember what happened though

[outer verge]

i dont think its an issue with that because it did something similar earlier, fixed it, and then it went back to this agian lol

[torpid sparrow]

ah, there it is

[gentle rose]

that's the point of the repo, I thought?

[outer verge]

that image looks like you put someone in the ground with the rock your holding lol

[iron ridge]

i thought it was to look at it

[torpid sparrow]

NOO i would never do that to him </3 /lh

[lucid iron]

Nah khloe does the needed stuff to make it compilable

Technically u can do it urself

[brittle pasture]

for objects you need to make them not giftable (unless that's what you want) + they'll not sort with the rest of the tools when auto organizing inventory

[lucid iron]

But y'know someone's done it already

[brittle pasture]

(ca pls why horse flute not tool)

[hard fern]

it just looks like for whatever reason your npc's sprite is offset.. like his head is where his feet should be and stuff

[urban patrol]

that's desired behavior, so good! i'll do object then

[hard fern]

i dont know how to fix it

[brittle pasture]

sounds like you wanted a warp totem? in which case objects are gud

[outer verge]

phainon please,,,

[brittle pasture]

I was thinking from a standpoint of a reusable tool

[urban patrol]

oh wait i don't want it consumed on use though, do i need to do anything special for that

[brittle pasture]

you asked if it should be a tool which makes me think you're in C# land?

[urban patrol]

nope, CP

[brittle pasture]

ok then you don't have a choice

[urban patrol]

i just searched in files for what the return scepter was

oh are tools not exposed or something

[keen seal]

I just did this the other day, it’s ContentPatcher and with SpaceCore (which you need for the warp function anyway) you can set it as non-consumable!

[brittle pasture]

tools are exposed, but any functionality must be C#

[urban patrol]

gotcha

[brittle pasture]

spacecore can handle object functionality yes

[keen seal]

Here

[urban patrol]

object + spacecore it is

[urban patrol]

thank you!

[keen seal]

just add “ConsumedOnUse”: “false” after position and/or color

[brittle pasture]

if it were up to me though it'd be a tool

[urban patrol]

the shadow of C# looms heavy over me but it does not yet beckon

[clear bough]

So I could use Xiddav's Tilesheet?

[lucid iron]

Yeah as long as your mod's dependent on that too

[sleek flint]

Can someone help me?

1. How do I add a new asset to the game which CP mods can use in the texture field, using SMAPI.
2. If I want that texture to change every hour, will the game actually change it every hour, or will it only load it once when the game is launched and not actually change it?

[lucid iron]

1. You can just do a Load, and then put the Target in string
2. Need more context on this usecase

[lucid mulch]

Assuming C# due to mentioning smapi

1. AssetRequested event and load a texture2d into it https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Content#Replace_an_image_file but replace Portraits/Abigail with your own asset name
2. when you want the asset to change you use the InvalidateCache method https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Content#Cache_invalidation

[sleek flint]

I am making a shopping channel which will get a random item from the travelling merchant's stock. And the icon's sprite will need to be displayed on the screen, but because the item changes every set amount of time, the sprite that is going to get displayed will also need to be changed.

[lucid iron]

you should just use the item's sprite then

do the extra draw call it's ok

[sleek flint]

I can't decide what to do 😭 .

I am too tired rn so I will decide later.

But for now thanks chu and SinZ

[lucid iron]

well i would usually choose the option that requires least amount of new assets

unless you think it's actually important

[lucid mulch]

also with the asset requested method, make sure you are returning a "new" texture2d instance and not recycling it from somewhere else, otherwise you will cause dispose explosions in places

[sleek flint]

That's why I can't decide, because to do this, I need to edit my framework's code to allow other mods to detect when a custom channel is playing. And that will take time and effort, but at the same time, this will be a useful feature to have.

[lucid iron]

oh my suggestion was that you don't let other mods directly control the texture of featured item

instead you just take the actual item texture and drawInMenu it

[sleek flint]

I will prob still do that though cuz it will prob won't take much time. And it is a very useful thing for other modders to have.

[sleek flint]

oh

[lucid iron]

ig i also question the gameplay side here, would you actually want people to stay in front of tv all day to see the shopping channel roll something good

if i was doing a thing like this i'd just have it refresh daily

[sleek flint]

I haven't decided on a specific time yet, but I won't do it daily. I am currently thinking of making it sell 3 items per day (not at the same time).

But off course any suggestions are welcome.

[lucid iron]

well if you do want multiple textures for whatever reason

you would just require multiple Texture fields for cp mods to put their target in

maybe a list

[sleek flint]

Nah, now that I think about it, I have decided I will edit my framework to allow for channel detection.

[lucid iron]

GSQ and cp tokens r both good for this

[delicate smelt]

hello everyone,i met problem again,im making a function of "season transtiting",when the game is autumn 1-3,26-28,and winter 1-3,26-28,the game scene will looks like transtition period of two seasons,but i dont know how to write the code

[lucid iron]

are you trying to make something like Changing Seasons

or Soft Slow Seasons

[delicate smelt]

this is my code part:
private void season_transiting(object? sender,DayEndingEventArgs e){
if(Game1.season==Season.Fall && Game1.dayOfMonth<=3){

        }
        if(Game1.season==Season.Fall && Game1.dayOfMonth>=26){

        }

......(too long,leave out)
}

[lucid iron]

you sure you want to do it in C#?

it's not required and neither mods i named do it there

[delicate smelt]

it must do with c#,seems content patcher cant do it

[lucid iron]

i literally named 2 mods that do this but in content patcher, but i suppose you may be imagining a different thing

[delicate smelt]

yes

[lucid iron]

Changing Seasons and Soft Slow Seasons both work by doing conditional EditImage on the spring/summer/fall/winter tilesheets

and various other textures ofc

[delicate smelt]

this just like soft slow seasons

[ashen urchin]

Hi guys, I'm having a problem. I'm trying to make a shed mod to enlarge it. When I run it, why can't the character pass through the room like there's a transparent wall? I'm sure I've placed the layers correctly. And I'm also sure I didn't set any properties for the tile object.

[delicate smelt]

i dont know how to change the scene when game is running

[lucid iron]

Content patcher rechecks When on day changed (or more frequently) and redo edits as required

You don't need it any more frequently than that yea?

[delicate smelt]

yes

[lucid iron]

more about this https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/zh/author-guide.md#update-rate

[lucid iron]

you may have invisible Building layer tiles

[ashen urchin]

So how do I fix it?

[lucid iron]

well try confirming that it is the case first, you can use lookup anything with tile lookups on to do that

afterwards just eraser that area in tiled

u can confirm with wand select too i think? havent used in a while so im not sure

[ashen urchin]

I'm sure there is no Building Layer blocking the room except the wall.

just Back Layer

[fossil osprey]

#making-mods-general message

[lucid iron]

but you can see the whole shed map even beyond the invisible wall right

[ashen urchin]

i dont get it 😦

[ashen urchin]

I understand now and I've tried it and it works!!! Thank you very much

[delicate smelt]

need help,i need c# code,because my whole project is write with c# ...

[lucid iron]

well if you want to do the same thing in C# you can

if you wish to do the "transition" appearance as special tilesheets then you need to do the invalidate and editimage bits on your own basically

but again, are you sure you don't wanna just use content patcher?

[delicate smelt]

i wanna very much now,but look at my mod project,its all c# codes,and already has many contents,its very hard for me to make it again with content patcher...

[lucid iron]

It's fine to keep some things in c# and some in cp

I guess the Q is what kinda mod are you making really

Content patcher not that hard i promise

[delicate smelt]

you means,i can add a content.json in my mod,then i can make new things in this mod with cp?

and my old c# codes can still work?

[quaint coyote]

Does anyone know how to check how much of an item has ever been shipped? I know the collections page tracks it but I'm struggling to pull the number.

[gleaming matrix]

Hello friends,
I'm working on a material that I've been working on for about 7 months. I'm going to paste it with Content Patcher, but my JSON and PNG files and all my team's 7 months of hard work can be stolen, is it possible to lock the files with AES and give the extracted files to Content Patcher when loading in-memory?

[lucid iron]

you can package a C# mod and a CP mod

any number really

[gleaming matrix]

This mod is to add my country's language to the game.

[slow basin]

is there a limit to how big you can make a building or is it like fine to have a biiiiiig building

[lucid iron]

u can have a biiiiiig building but people may not have the space

[slow basin]

true hmm

ig ill mess with it a bit

[lucid iron]

just be reasonable like

make sure all the vanilla farms can fit it or something

[slow basin]

i want the big top to feel big but not be giagantic

its gonna be a txs building like marnies ranch for a location

[lucid iron]

u can cheat a bit and make the texture bigger than the footprint

oh if its the map then u can do whatever you want lol

[slow basin]

oo ok

🙂‍↕️

[lucid iron]

presumably u r make map in a way that fits all the tiles that are the "building"

but game doesn't really consider it a single entity

[slow basin]

🙂‍↕️

manive never made a whole building before and here i am making a map that others can hopefully use as well XD

Im creating a carnie city or at least a home for people in the entertainment biz

[half tangle]

The game state query PLAYER_SHIPPED_BASIC_ITEM checks a quantity range

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/gottyduke/stardew-informant/blob/main/Informant/Implementation/Decorator/ShippingBinDecorator.cs#L64

@spice inlet Hello i made the door area thing i was think much about
https://gitlab.com/delixx/stardew-valley/personal-indoor-farm/-/merge_requests/1/diffs

it is actually kind of a big change

[spice inlet]

great! I'll look over it during the weekend

[warped sorrel]

Hi folks, I've been playing stardew for a while but just now starting to get interested in modding. Is there a way to redirect the SMAPI console output to a regular terminal so I can fiddle with the font size? I't far too small on my laptop for me to read anything it's trying to tell me 😄

(this is on Linux btw)

[rocky chasm]

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[rocky chasm]

Not quite the right text, but you can look at the SMAPI output there

[royal stump]

I'm not familiar with using it personally, but apparently SMAPI accepts an environment variable to set a preferred terminal
https://github.com/Pathoschild/SMAPI/blob/develop/docs/technical/smapi.md
It's also possible to edit its list of known terminals in a file somewhere, according to this issue report
https://github.com/Pathoschild/SMAPI/issues/695

(that said, it may be incompatible with certain terminals and just won't launch)

[lucid iron]

Besides what esca said there's an env var you can set to make smapi run in same term

[vivid cedar]

can someone help me understand why my mod isn't working? i was just making a hat and it doesnt seem to be showing up in game at all. smapi is saying it's loading, and i'm not seeing an error in appdata

[vernal crest]

!log Can you please share your log (and tell us the name of your mod) and also your json? Both via the smapi.io website please rather than uploaded here or screenshots

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[vivid cedar]

sure, one moment

th emod name is Applejack's Stetson

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[vivid cedar]

https://smapi.io/log/1058a201850a4836bd6cf255d76246b7

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 16 C# mods and 23 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[vernal crest]

!json Here's the link to the json validator btw

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[vernal crest]

Oh this is a JA mod. Is there a reason you're making it with JA?

[vivid cedar]

https://smapi.io/json/manifest/9294b6b23f22449e97029594d58fd128 here is the manifest

i was following a tutorial. should i not have?

[vernal crest]

It's a deprecated framework because CP is the recommended approach now

[vivid cedar]

ok. i guess i'll follow a different tutorial then

any suggestions?

[vernal crest]

I don't think we have any tutorials for adding clothing via CP, but I'll go check

[vivid cedar]

if i have to use the fashion sense instead that's fine. wanted to have an in game item but if that's too big a start for me i'll switch to whatever works better

[vernal crest]

No unfortunately there's no tutorial for CP but there is a tutorial on how to make a mod when there's no tutorial lol https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Making_a_Mod_When_There's_No_Tutorial

And this is the wiki page on hats which shows you what the hat data looks like and what it does: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Hats

[calm nebula]

I have an example!

[vivid cedar]

thanks, ooh boy this'll be fun to parse out

[calm nebula]

https://github.com/atravita-mods/StardewMods/blob/b26af1691335facebe60e551c098635c95513d14/ContentMods/[CP] Science Family Rewritten/assets/items/hats.json#L4

Hats are easy. Boots are easy

[vivid cedar]

thanks, i'll use this

[calm nebula]

Shirts are annoying

Pants are a lot of art

[vivid cedar]

which mod is cp by the way?

[calm nebula]

!cp

[ocean sail]

Content Patcher (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/1915) is a mod which loads content packs to change the game's images and data without replacing XNB files. If you want to make mods using Content Patcher, start at https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Content_Patcher.

To use this command, type !cp.

[vivid cedar]

oh, ok! lol. total 'whoosh over the head" moment. i've got that one

[buoyant solstice]

how about the author guide?
I learned from it
made hats mod with it

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide.md#what-is-content-patcher

hi every1 btw

[vivid cedar]

taking a look.

[toxic fulcrum]

how do you usually run events when you are developing/debugging them?

Do you use the test_event.txt system? Or just load them in your mod and run with the event id console command? Or something else

[calm nebula]

I use debug ebi

[opaque field]

debug ebi is my friend (personally)

[calm nebula]

Tbh the test event system probably would work better with my flow

[opaque field]

what's the difference? I've ever only known debug ebi haha

[warped sorrel]

This worked a treat, thanks both!

[toxic fulcrum]

Just a different workflow. You write your changes to a test_event.txt file in the game root dir, instead of you mod files. And use a different command to start the event. The event syntax is also slightly different

It sounds kind of nice in theory but has some drawbacks.

[vital lotus]

What's the advantage over debug ebi tho?

[toxic fulcrum]

I guess not needing to reload you mod files.

Between making changes. Idk if content patcher has hot reloading

[calm nebula]

It's more because I use version control with an automatic deploy system

So the version in the mod folder is a copy and isn't the copy meant to be edited

[vital lotus]

Btw santtu, can the tool read eventscript with the line break in the json?

[vital lotus]

patch reload is a thing I believe

[calm nebula]

Yup

[toxic fulcrum]

Right now there is no way to import event script. The whole thing needs to be done in the editor.

It shouldn't be too hard to add tho

Internally it has it's own json event format

That's actually mostly for the custom stuff that my mod expects. It could be argued that the public release should just edit event script language directly

[vernal crest]

Ichor likes to use the separate text file but I find that it's so fast to hit forward slash, up arrow, and enter twice to reload my mod and then restart my event that I don't see the appeal in using a file that uses different syntax just to skip the patch reload.

[toxic fulcrum]

Yeah, the syntax differences make it little weird to use for sure

[slow basin]

if i make a town with empty basic houses people can move their npcs into and i give permissions for this in nexus would people be able to edit MY maps in tiled for their own custom houses 🤔

like so they can edit it

to makepretty houses themselves

is that possible

[devout otter]

That's very possible. The hard part I think is to spread the words and entice people to actually use it.

[hard fern]

Yeah, it's possible, but instead of editing your mod itself, it wouldn't be too hard to just patch the maps/assets, since i can see the part where they edit your maps to cause some possible compatibility issues

[slow basin]

🙂‍↕️

hopefully my little project can provide a home to at least a few NPCS X3

I might make a handful of NPCS for the player to interact with so it isnt a completely empty expansion though and then proivide some empty houses

[wide relic]

hii, new here so sorry! but does anyone have a guide on map making (as in art and such) in stardew? I've been looking for one and maybe i skipped over one 😳

[torpid sparrow]

!maps

nope not a command ill get the wiki page

[torpid sparrow]

oh wait do you mean making new things for a map, or making a new map

because usually people make a new map by using the game's existing assets

[wide relic]

new map, but im super new at modding lol

[hallow prism]

first step is

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[hallow prism]

install tiled

[vernal crest]

Following the start of the maps page of the wiki is enough to guide you through how to make a map combined with close inspection of the vanilla maps

[hallow prism]

enable tbin

[wide relic]

ah ty ty so much!

[torpid sparrow]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps wiki page

[wide relic]

thank you!!

knowing how to make things helps a lot with making a roadmap imo so 😳

[torpid sparrow]

i love and hate tiled i hope you have fun

[vernal crest]

Maps were the first thing I ever started modding

I'd edited some dialogue inside other mods before but my first own mod was a map

[wide relic]

oooh

i'm kind of planning to make some older bachelors/bachelorettes first because its kind of...awkward with so many youngsters lol and hopefully focus on another storyline

[vernal crest]

Yay more older characters!

[wide relic]

lol im also older so trying to date a 22 year old ingame feels so wrooong

looking at an age range between 30-60

[hard fern]

Thats a really big range lol

[vernal crest]

That's a huge range haha

In that case Hiria counts as older! She's 34

(Making an NPC my own age, tch, it's like I'm 14 again lol)

[hard fern]

I think my npc'a ages are all over the place

Youngest is like... 14?

[fallow tartan]

The existing SkipIntro mod already allows automatically skipping to the "Host Co-op" screen when the game starts. However, it doesn't automatically select a save file. I'd like it to automatically select the topmost save file (simulating a click) after reaching the Host Co-op page. Is this difficult to implement? It would be similar to the existing Auto Load mod, but instead of loading a save, it should automatically host a co-op game.
Does anyone know how to code this functionality or assist me? Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[sweet wharf]

I'm trying to make my own NPC sprite without having to edit already in game NPCs and I wanted to know how many pixels my character needs to be to be functional

[hard fern]

Uh . Technically? None

[torpid sparrow]

i do not understand the question

[hard fern]

You could slap a blank sprite sheet in there and make your npc entirely invisible

[torpid sparrow]

ur sprite can be however tall or short you want

and however wide or slim

[hard fern]

Just be aware each sprite has to fit in a 16x32 area

[vernal crest]

Well, within the 16x32 limit

[sweet wharf]

Okay, so it doesn't matter how many pixels my character is, it just has to be in that limit

[torpid sparrow]

yes

[hard fern]

Yeah

[sweet wharf]

Okay, thanks

[fallow tartan]

!

[hard fern]

?

[vernal crest]

Sorry, those of us chatting here right now don't know enough C# to be able to answer your question and the norm is to not tell someone if we don't know the answer so people don't get bombarded with answers saying "no I don't know".

[fallow tartan]

Okay, okay. Could you tell me if there are any channels to get in touch with relevant experts? Thank you.

🥹

[hard fern]

Uh, if it's mod related, this is already the right channel

[torpid sparrow]

its just here lol if someone is available they'll come

[vernal crest]

This is the right channel, they're just not online right now haha

[fallow tartan]

🥹 Okay, okay, then I'll come back another time.

[vernal crest]

They should be around in a few hours, that's when they usually come out of their burrows

[fallow tartan]

oh ok