but fine gimme a sec to extract relavent code.
#making-mods-general
trim sand
lucid iron
Why r u like this 
Would you like me to divine what ever is written in ur actual mod to help you based on a guess
trim sand
again my goal was only to determine if there was an actual error or not. listed when blocks.
"When":{
"FarmType":"Silver.VerdantGladeFarm/VerdantGladeFarm",
"Spiderbuttons.CMCT/Config: Atelier.Cauldron, WildFood": true,
"HasMod":"Wildflour.AtelierGoods"
},
"When":{
"FarmType":"Silver.VerdantGladeFarm/VerdantGladeFarm",
"Spiderbuttons.CMCT/Config: Cornucopia.MoreCrops, Enable Extended Trees Pack": true,
"HasMod":"Cornucopia.MoreCrops"
},
"When":{
"FarmType":"Silver.VerdantGladeFarm/VerdantGladeFarm",
"Spiderbuttons.CMCT/Config: Cornucopia.MoreCrops, Enable Herbs Pack": true,
"HasMod":"Cornucopia.MoreCrops"
},
uncut viper
you cant use a CMCT token checking another mod if that mod isnt loaded. so you cant check that mods config before you even check if the mod exists
lucid iron
Hm do you need to require CMCT in this patch too
I also wonder if u can just use cornucopia's mailflags instead
It'll perhaps be more straightforward
trim sand
Hm do you need to require CMCT in this patch too
considering these don't error when the mods are loaded I don't think so.
also we talked about this previously. we werent certain the mail flags exist at save start.
lucid iron
ok sure
It's just the thing in cp docs about usage of mod provided tokens i was wondering about
uncut viper
Hm do you need to require CMCT in this patch too
(Content Patcher wont let you use a mod-provided token if you do not have either a hard dependency or a HasMod check for it, so i presume absol has the former)
trim sand
the has mod check immediately follows the CMCT check. and i somehow doubt order matters.
lucid iron
Would the warning go away if u refactor these patches into HasMod cornucopia first and then the cmct tokens inside?
uncut viper
its not the order, its the fact that you're trying to do the CMCT check at all in that same condition
lucid iron
Yeah refactor into a include i mean
uncut viper
the HasMod check for Atelier must be in a more "outer" check, like on an Include that includes this patch that then checks CMCT
(the "Mod or pack not found." text is from CMCT itself btw not CP)
balmy valve
POSITION OFFSET STILL NO WORK!!!
manic shoal
I'm having some difficulty with Local Tokens. I've gotten the following error:
System.InvalidOperationException: Error parsing '{{FestivalName}}' as a tokenizable string
I think it's unhappy about at least one of the places I've used this token in the file I'm including, but I'm not sure which places.
This is the Json I'm including: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/f9e197dd8e14460db7a4d0d889876fe1
trim sand
it hardly seems necessary to fix an otherwise harmless warning.
uncut viper
you cant use tokens in LogName
manic shoal
you cant use tokens in LogName
Thanks
lucid iron
you cant use tokens in LogName
Hm i thought when you try it wouldn't even parse?
manic shoal
Yeah, I actually hit enter too soon and was going to. GImme 2 seconds
"LogName": "Include {{ModID}} EggFestival Appearances",
"Action": "Include",
"FromFile": "Data/FestivalCode.json",
"When":{
"HasFile:Assets/Portraits/{{Portrait_Mode}}/{{FestivalName}}.png": true,
"config_{{FestivalName}}": true
},
"LocalTokens": {
"FestivalName": "EggFestival",
"FestivalID": "festival_spring13"
}
},```AAAAAAAAAAAAA
manic shoal
So I've got the same problem in the log name here too, but it didn't flag that, I think.
formal crown
Hi all
uncut viper
(im actually not sure if LocalTokens can be used in When conditions? im not saying they cant, just that my uncertainty means i cannot provide help here anymore bc idk)
formal crown
(iirc yes? but I'm not super sure either)
lucid iron
You can definitely use the tokens from outer scope
I dunno of u can immediately use FestivalName like in here
uncut viper
yeah sorry i shoulda clarified thats what i meant, in the same block
lucid iron
Since u wrote it anyways try just changing to EggFestival?
manic shoal
Kk, I'm rewriting that and I'll try it
formal crown
Do y'all know if DeLiXx is okay with pings? For context I've got a bug report that occurs only with VPP and a PIF pack together, I've read PIF's code but couldn't find the reason
I'd appreciate extra eyes on the issue though
I'd like to ask them in case they would have any ideas
uncut viper
if you post the error/describe the issue you might nerdsnipe a C#er to look
crude plank
What be the bug reported
lucid iron
Im willing to ping on ur behalf but yeah toss out the error first so we can all 👁️ it
formal crown
Ugh, nexus is bugging out once again
But basically the issue is when you get the Vast Domain talent, fishing in PIF rooms suddenly become trash only
manic shoal
Since u wrote it anyways try just changing to EggFestival?
Yep, that seems to have fixed it, because EggFestival doesn't throw an error but the rest of the includes still do. That's a pretty easy thing to fix so I'm glad that's all it was!
formal crown
The pack was named Enchanted Garden iirc
uncut viper
(i wonder if thats intended..)
crude plank
But basically the issue is when you get the Vast Domain talent, fishing in PIF r...
Oh. I might've experienced that lol
formal crown
Nope, Vast Domain's not supposed to affect anything besides legendary fish
uncut viper
(sorry, that was for the localtokens thing)
lucid iron
I wanna say yes? cus LocalTokens do work on the actual edit entry pathos specifically took away it's ability to affect target
crude plank
But wait no, it couldn't have been nvm
manic shoal
I also double checked with and without having the token in the LogName inside the Included file. That doesn't throw any errors.
Based on the log names in my error, it just reads the tokens as the literal text they are. Is that was was meant earlier by saying it just doesn't parse?
crude plank
The pack was named Enchanted Garden iirc
And it only happened with that or other pifs too?
lucid iron
I used the special item query to get ocean fish inside
Instead of specifying my own fish list
Which would presumably fetch crimsonfish?
formal crown
Sure, I'll try
lucid iron
I dunno if that's what enchanted garden did so just trying to find similarities here
This mod also come as greenhouse replacement so u can try n determine if it's a pif thing or not
formal crown
Well, I haven't got a save with a greenhouse iirc
Time to throw in a pinch of cheats :lmao
lucid iron
Cjb 
Sometimes i just debug warp greenhouse lol it works
Tho not for this one bc i setup the entry tile wrong oops
idle lantern
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/c6fe947aecb4447f9c404c58f0b7b07d
Could someone look at this and maybe pinpoint why my NPC's schedule broke? It works if I have the very first Spring entry only, but as soon as I had the new schedules, he no longer does anything
drowsy minnow
just looking for a small opinion on intensive requirements for my foraging mod,
like if i had certain items hidden behind heavily specific conditions like if i made an item for winter but that the weather needed to be rain therefore requiring the player to use a rain totem to be able to get it?
(ofc if i did something that intense of a requirement I'd likely make a mini handbook/guide)
idle lantern
Some people are for them! What would you want if you were downloading this?
lucid iron
I think that's very srs bsns and if u make this happen remember to let people toggle required for shipping to off
Not against having it in general as long as there's some guidance towards it tho
drowsy minnow
Some people are for them! What would you want if you were downloading this?
i quite like the idea of some stuff being come across under heavy conditions like what i used for example especially since my foraging mod is going to revolve around 'collectibles' like fancy utensils, dice, oddities/specimens, jewelry etc etc
idle lantern
Maybe a Mail on Winter 1, like a riddle from Mr Qi. "How does one get rain in winter?" or something
and maybe gift a single rain totem
drowsy minnow
i love that idea 
ill give it a try
drowsy minnow
I think that's very srs bsns and if u make this happen remember to let people to...
ill also make sure to add this, i was going to add config options to generally turn off certain collections in the mod either way so i can prob throw this in the mix with it 
idle lantern
I don't understand
I figured out my schedule issue. I had it directed at data/schedules, and not characters/schedules
formal crown
@lucid iron PIF rooms get affected, but greenhouse doesn't
lucid iron
Good to confirm then no clue why tho 
rough lintel
question: i’m in fall, but my game keeps trying to load spring tilesheets onto my map. this wasn’t an issue before. wtf is happening.
lucid iron
Probably should ping lix with logs and perhaps patch export Data/Locations
PIF fills a data location entry based on it's custom asset basically
And i wonder if vpp is doing it too early or too late, therefore bonking stuff pif does
formal crown
The changes are made through CP, fwiw
lucid iron
Oh yeah what if u change the special item query for beach fish into ordinary fish data
brittle pasture
I know LOCATION_FISH won't forward twice, I have no idea if that's actually related tho
lucid iron
For the pif room i gave u can just delete it and then bump the seaweed entry to 100%
Just 4 test
formal crown
Okay this is weird
I can still see some fish in the greenhouse
But I'll sleep one more day to make sure
I'll try a save reload
rough lintel
question: i’m in fall, but my game keeps trying to load spring tilesheets onto m...
https://smapi.io/log/fd47386401134579b297fd145d98c90a i genuinely dont know what i did bc it loaded fine yesterday and i changed nothing.
ocean sailBOT
Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.2-unofficial-sinz-2+3 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 19 C# mods and 14 content packs.
formal crown
Wait my fault
Of course it has fish because I edited the PIF not Greenhouse
PIF room has no seaweed though
rough lintel
https://smapi.io/log/fd47386401134579b297fd145d98c90a i genuinely dont know what...
even if i'm in spring, it still can't find the tilesheet '_' tried resaving the map and everything hhhhh
balmy valve
How do I add temporary furniture that only shows up in the event? i want a few bunches of flowers
uncut viper
even if i'm in spring, it still can't find the tilesheet '_' tried resaving the ...
can you post your json showing your tilesheet load?
formal crown
@lucid iron Anything else you'd like me to try?
rough lintel
can you post your json showing your tilesheet load?
sure
just that section, or the entire json?
uncut viper
whole json
half tangle
How do I add temporary furniture that only shows up in the event? i want a few b...
I assume temporaryAnimatedSprite would be able to handle that
rough lintel
whole json
and the map patch json if thats relevant https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/7f34b499dda8438498e23c6cb542ee7a
uncut viper
your load targets for your tilesheets start with z_
balmy valve
I assume temporaryAnimatedSprite would be able to handle that
ok!
rough lintel
yes, because they are named that in the tilesheet
uncut viper
hence, it cannot find spring_[tilesheetname] because it doesnt exist
rough lintel
uncut viper
z_spring_[tilesheetname] does
rough lintel
this exact thing worked like a day ago so i'm not sure why it magically changed
uncut viper
the name of the tileset doesnt matter
did you have your tilesheets in your mod folder yesterday?
rough lintel
yeah
uncut viper
thats why
uncut viper
are they still there?
uncut viper
im confused why you are loading them then at all
rough lintel
because you... have to
rough lintel
i thought you had to name it whatever you named it in tiled, not the name of the source image
uncut viper
okay lemme back up for a sec
the name of the tileset in tiled doesnt matter. the image source matters
rough lintel
okay, that is news to me. thank you
uncut viper
the image source is what the game tries to load
uncut viper
i should have asked if the tilesheets were in the same folder as your tmx, not your mod folder, which is my bad
bc if they are present alongside your tmx, smapi will load those first
so your Loads wouldnt be used
if the name of the tileset mattered then there would be untitled tile sheet.png in the unpacked content
bc CA didnt name like half the sheets
uncut viper
i got confused about the load bc i assumed when you said the tilesheets were in your mod folder that they were alongside your tmx (bc i asked wrong) in which case if they were the loads are unnecessary
rough lintel
i swear to god this isnt documented
well. thank you for solving the mystery. i have no clue what happened lol
iron ridge
the name of the tileset in tiled doesnt matter. the image source matters
(fwiw, doesn't matter since we're all on tmxes but on tbins it does, they're referred to by the name when specifying a tile index)
uncut viper
(fwiw, doesn't matter since we're all on tmxes but on tbins it does, they're ref...
i meant in the context of what your load target should be in content patcher, but that's still good to know as well
balmy valve
time to load up every single festival. yippee.
Guys
Quick question
If I want to add another NPC in a different spot to the same festival, do I need to copy and paste this whole thing again or can I just add like, a brace and make it an array
uncut viper
you can add it to your Value
you can just write like "Value": "thing one/thing two/thing three"
(assuming the correct delimiter is a slash, as it is in this case)
balmy valve
Okay!
It's giving me an error
saying i should use a comma
Should I disregard it?
rough lintel
if its erroring because you are missing a comma, perhaps you need a comma
uncut viper
no, you should never disregard an error. post a log. that said I'm on mobile and a bit busy so someone else may need to help
balmy valve
okay
balmy valve
FIGURED IT OUT!
pseudo vault
What did I do wrong?
uncut viper
What did I do wrong?
the validator only checks syntax when not in Content Patcher mode (i.e. does your json follow json's grammar rules). when its in CP mode it checks some content patcher specific syntax. but it does not verify that whatever you're trying to write matches the data you're trying to edit, bc it doesnt know what the game data should look like.
Season is just a string. not an array of strings.
"Season": "Spring"
pseudo vault
So do I remove the Brackets around the word spring?
uncut viper
yes. the brackets are what make something an array/list
uncut viper
LOCATION_NAME Here Mountain
the first argument of that game state query is a "target location"
which is either Here, Target, or a location ID
"Here" meaning wherever the player is when the GSQ is checked, Target being sometimes somerthing specific
calm nebula
(Although at that point why not edit the Mountain entry)
uncut viper
(like where a machine is, thatd be target)
pseudo vault
I was trying to add new forageables and some of them either only spawn at a certain season (or seasons) and others only spawn at a certain location
I thought Area names count as IDs...
uncut viper
you cannot skip a required argument
so writing LOCATION_Name Mountain is giving the first argument but not the second
you can use Mountain as a location ID for the target, but theres no point
you'd have to write LOCATION_NAME Mountain Mountain which checks if "Mountain" is called "Mountain"
which is obviously pointless
pseudo vault
What do I need to write to correct it? I apologize in advance, but written tutorials don't help me much.
uncut viper
`LOCATION_NAME Here Mountain`
i wrote it here
uncut viper
though, it may need to be Target instead of Here
pseudo vault
I will test them both
uncut viper
there is also the chance that LOCATION_NAME might not be applicable to forage anyway and you will have to do as atra suggests and edit the Mountain entry directly
pseudo vault
I don't really know how to do that...
uncut viper
you're already doing it. you just are doing it for Default instead of Mountain
uncut viper
right now you are using TargetField to edit the forage in the "Default" location
you can just edit the "Mountain" location instead
pseudo vault
"well yes, that's how you add a new entry to the Forage list in the Woods entry"
uncut viper
im not sure why you're quoting that
uncut viper
that was someone telling you that what you wrote just before that quote was correct for adding Forage to the Woods location
so if you change the word "Woods" to "Mountain" then you'd be adding forage to the Mountain location
pseudo vault
Wait so it wasn't Forage list as in collection forage list?
It was the Forage spawn Table?
I completely misunderstood it
uncut viper
yes. its the same exact thing you're doing right now but with "Default" instead of "Woods"
pseudo vault
That fixed the error messages thank you again
I do have a different issue caused by a different mod that I would like to try and fix.
For some reason this window is flickering violently
uncut viper
is it an incompatibility with your mod that you'd like to fix in your mod, or is it simply an issue with another mod you play with?
pseudo vault
Probably caused by the tilesheet for the Mountain area
So not from an incompatibility with one of my mods
uncut viper
that would be #1272025932932055121 territory then
calm nebula
My understanding is that sve makes that tile animated and not every recolor accounts for it
lucid iron
I thought that tile is animated in vanilla too (if it is the science house window)
No one knows why it's animated tho
idle lantern
Spouse room issues:
Visual Studio code: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/495556b4a03441cfa95e4480a6613692
Do I need to do something especial in the code to make the objects appear correctly? My spouse room is 6 x 9
lucid iron
Can u try patch export on the spouse room asset just in case
calm nebula
Does it work if you put those on alwaysfront
idle lantern
Yes. The books are on always front. They look fine on Tiled, but in game they're overlapping the walls
[Content Patcher] Couldn't load asset 'RahielSpouseRoom.tmx' using a likely type (tried: System.Object). Try either specifying the type, or waiting until the game loads it before exporting it. See the SMAPI log for details.
Not sure I did the export correctly
lucid iron
Did u load to Maps/RaheilSpouseRoom
brave fable
spouserooms have some unique layering behaviour to work around, I'd just use AlwaysFront if it works
idle lantern
spouserooms have some unique layering behaviour to work around, I'd just use Alw...
Let me try that
brave fable
only the lower most tiles of course, the rest will layer badly on alwaysfront
idle lantern
Going to try reseting the game, patch reloading and sleeping aren't changing the room
there we go!
calm nebula
Spouse room issues:
Visual Studio code: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/49...
See I wonder if the little ledge is on Fromt there
idle lantern
Maybe I just need to live with the overlap
calm nebula
Shits and giggles try Front-1
brave fable
ah.
idle lantern
Rename the front layer?
brave fable
nono, a new layer named Front-1, as in minus 1
idle lantern
Okie doke 🙂
brave fable
arbitrarily named layers aren't used by the game, but you can use layers with the same name as typical layers with +/- to add visual-only layers drawn before or after the target
idle lantern
ah!
I saw in one of CA's maps he had an AlwaysBack, but I have successfully used it
haven't*
thank you!
idle lantern
Um, let me see if I can find. I only saw it once
calm nebula
See! There ☆☆is☆☆ a reason y'all haven't [banned me yet](#making-mods-general message)
brave fable
don't make me reapply 
lucid iron
We keep atra around for morale support
calm nebula
Green blueberry is worth it
rough lintel
stay free of the green..... stay porpl.......
gaunt orbit
The atra is our mascot
idle lantern
I'm not seeing it. I'm going to bet I saw this and my brain processed it incorrectly
pseudo vault
it works! I am so tired... Making forages work is hell...
nvm.
I don't understand what I did wrong...
rough lintel
it works! I am so tired... Making forages work is hell...
omg the grasses...... fun...
idle lantern
Do I need to do anything else special to get lighting to work?
idle lantern
it works! I am so tired... Making forages work is hell...
I'm getting geja vu and I have no idea from what game. I feel like I remember a plant just like that in different colors. A Harvest Moon game?
pseudo vault
I'm getting geja vu and I have no idea from what game. I feel like I remember a ...
Harvest Moon DS
pseudo vault
Hm try giving it vanilla edibility still?
The other grasses do show the restoring effect. Maybe Spacecore cannot handle positive and negative at the same time?
fading walrus
don't make me reapply <:SDVdemetriums:702504896234258442>
No green only orange 
pseudo vault
Yeah uh... I think I need to fix that.
How do I make it so they do not appear on the beach?
rough lintel
is this query right..... i hate mixing text values and numbers i just never know. "When": { "Query: ( '{{Relationship:{{Cotton}} }}' = 'Friendly': true ) AND ( {{Hearts:{{Cotton}} }} >= 4 )" }
or is it better to just "When": { "Relationship:{{Cotton}}": "Friendly", "Query: {{Hearts:{{Cotton}} }} >= 4": true }
uncut viper
iirc queries are a bit computationally expensive relatively so id just avoid it if its possible to
and less confusing to
rough lintel
ok but is it right is my question
uncut viper
you can also just do "Hearts:{{Cotton}} |contains=0,1,2,3": false
rough lintel
i suppose yeah
uncut viper
i dont know if its right because i dont know query syntax
which is another reason i avoid it
rough lintel
i see
uncut viper
(also your question was actually also "or is it better to do x")
languid matrix
Was fishing in the south pond during the desert festival and got trash instead of Sandfish or Scorpion Carp. https://smapi.io/log/98db8dc8600c475790ccd5aa1032ef6e
ocean sailBOT
Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 6 C# mods and 6 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them
languid matrix
Why does it feel like a ghost town in here?
idle lantern
People were talking 5 minutes ago.
pseudo vault
Okay, Spacecore can only show one negative effect as well.
I found red grass which hurts both stamina and health, it only showed stamina loss
idle lantern
boo
is there a way to i18n the effects, and then use the Random feature within the actual script?
pseudo vault
I see words but only understood the i18 part... sorry.
idle lantern
"Gifts.Loved": "{{i18n:Gifts.Loved_{{random:0,1,2}}}}",
At least for dialogue, that I know of, you can do this
and then in the i18n, you have like Gifts.Loved_0 etc
pseudo vault
I did add that it does recover health atleast
idle lantern
Could you define those as Dynamic thingies, list them in the i18n, and then use random effect? You won't get both negatives at once, but both would happen
100% guessing
pseudo vault
Sorry I was bad at saying what I meant
Red grass did hurt stamina and health
and yellow grass even though it didn't show in the numbers, recovers
idle lantern
ah!
@urban patrol , can I pick your brain about map lighting, if you have the time?
pseudo vault
Though, the x multiplier does not work with spacecore EatenHealthRestoredOverride and EatenStaminaRestoredOverride...
This is gold quality
(Indigo grass is really overpowered in HMDS...)
lucid iron
@idle lantern answering u in the proper channel
idle lantern
ty sorry to make you move
I've got this on the spouse map, as well that the light bulb from paths on the paths layer
lucid iron
yes pls just post in right place in the future
im not sure if spouse room can have lights actually
they are Weird™
idle lantern
ohh
lucid iron
what i rec is to not worry about the lighting and let player deal with it
idle lantern
I can do that
lucid iron
place furniture (or not)
idle lantern
The lighting on my lamp map just crashed the game. Odd
golden basin
Use paths sheet light tile and do the force paths map property it'll work
urban patrol
<@715046160917856257> , can I pick your brain about map lighting, if you have th...
yes although if it's about spouse rooms idk anything
golden basin
But you have to remove you lighting map property
elfin kindle
Hi! Sorry to jump in but I've been fighting Tiled for like 3 days and im ALMOST there, I just gotta make everything work without sending the vanilla tilesets with my mod. All of them are fine EXCEPT furniture.png. I've edited the map .tmx in a textfile to source "furniture" and not "furniture.png" but it keeps complaining about "Invalid tilesheet path 'furniture.png'. The tilesheet couldn't be found relative to either the map file or the game's content folder". And it's seriously just the furniture one, all the others which i've done the same with work totally fine when removing the vanilla tilesheets in the mod map... I've been comparing them in both tiled and text yet i can't see what would be different
uncut viper
Hi! Sorry to jump in but I've been fighting Tiled for like 3 days and im ALMOST ...
you cant use tilesheets outside of the Maps folder in your unpacked content without Arbitrary Tilesheet Access to allow it
lucid iron
you can also look into modded tilesheets
pseudo vault
Remember everyone, always double check if you wrote the small text correctly...
elfin kindle
you cant use tilesheets outside of the `Maps` folder in your unpacked content wi...
Hmmm right okay I think i get what you mean despite having tired brain, thank you for the quick reply! :)
lucid iron
hxw tilesheets has their greenhouse furniture
and they are loaded to Maps for ease of use
idle lantern
yes although if it's about spouse rooms idk anything
I'll see if I can figure it out 🙂
idle lantern
I got the lights to work on the other maps, but not in the Spouse Room. I think I'm going to go full lazy and let the player put a light in. I appreciate yours' help! 🙂
pseudo vault
I can't find the page with the location_name information anymore. There are so many pages for modding I am confused.
idle lantern
What are you trying to find?
pseudo vault
I looked through all of these.
idle lantern
specific map names?
pseudo vault
I think I saw a command for excluding maps before
lucid iron
!unpack
ocean sailBOT
lucid iron
did u do this yet
pseudo vault
I know which location it is Beach
uncut viper
LOCATION_NAME is a game state query so it would be on that page, but an actual list of location IDs would be in the unpack
elfin kindle
I... I could apparently not understand what was happening. Im able to use vanilla tilesheets for everything else, i use towninterior no prob but furniture doesn't want to at all
idle lantern
You're trying to make it so that your forage doesn't go on the beach?
latent mauve
Furniture is not located in Maps
pseudo vault
You're trying to make it so that your forage doesn't go on the beach?
Yeah.
uncut viper
I... I could apparently not understand what was happening. Im able to use vanill...
it doesnt matter whether its vanilla or not. furniture is not from the Maps folder
idle lantern
I... I could apparently not understand what was happening. Im able to use vanill...
it's not you. It's furniture
elfin kindle
Furniture is not located in Maps
ITS NOT?
pseudo vault
bamboo Shoots on the Beach does not make sense
uncut viper
furniture is from TileSheets
idle lantern
I... I could apparently not understand what was happening. Im able to use vanill...
put a copy of furniture in your mod folder. It needs to stay with your mod because it's haunted
elfin kindle
omg im dumb, okay- i had been just searching for the vanilla tilesheets in the content and grabbing the png, holy shit okay im just silly lmao thank ya'll!
latent mauve
So you cannot use it as a tilesheet reference without either
a) Loading it to Maps which breaks recolors
or b) setting the Arbitrary Tilesheet Access mod as a dependency and running it at the same time
idle lantern
Yeah.
I wonder if you have to do it the pain in the ass way, and just Target specific locations versus exclude
elfin kindle
So you cannot use it as a tilesheet reference without either
a) Loading it to Ma...
right, thank you!
idle lantern
omg im dumb, okay- i had been just searching for the vanilla tilesheets in the c...
I had the same problem. Someone here helped me with that
elfin kindle
I had the same problem. Someone here helped me with that
feels like its one of those things a lot of newbie modders fall for
idle lantern
Shame about the recolor resist, but
latent mauve
This is exactly why the Arbitrary Tilesheet Access mod was made.
It happens to us all.
elfin kindle
Luckily ive only used a handful of plants from furniture so i think i can just use towninterior instead since that ones plays nice or make my own, ive already made a tilesheet for the place so a couple more plants is fine
latent mauve
The documentation for mod authors in the mod description makes it pretty clear how you can use it. 🙂
(and if you get stuck, Button is literally here and has been trying to help you out. 😛 )
uncut viper
(im always surprised by just how many downloads it has considering it has literally nothing requiring/using it)
(not that 238 is a whole lot or anything, but considering theres 0 people who need it...)
brittle pasture
25/75 mod authors/mod users downloading frameworks ahead of time
elfin kindle
Button was very quick and i do appreciate it, I am simply dumb and had totally missed that furniture wasnt in maps so i was incredibly confused, nothing against Buttons efficient help 😭
uncut viper
it happens!
brittle pasture
my framework with 0 users is sitting at 111 UDL lol
tender bloom
What’s the framework? 👀
brittle pasture
Was fishing in the south pond during the desert festival and got trash instead o...
do you have json
calm nebula
~~still no "Leah builds shed for you" mod~~
Smh my wife doesn't need to work
lucid iron
say selph
uncut viper
selph
lucid iron
thank you ButtonBot
hm
oh right i was gonna ask what is the interaction between mmap's show construct and this show construct
i think the mmap one is significantly more lax and recently when i did the redfox rainfrog convert i just slapped Builder: ModId in there to achieve a building catalogue lol
brittle pasture
both actions from mmap and cc are calling the same vanilla menu
it's the harmony patches that handles the day teleport NPC update + other niceties like custom costs depending on the builder
so theoretically you can use MMAP's action right in place just fine
lucid iron
if the builder is not an npc at all what does custom builder do
languid matrix
do you have json
Wdym?
brittle pasture
if the builder is not an npc at all what does custom builder do
I was about to say it's probably fine, but then I checked the code for the "building done" dialogue thing and I see a potential NRE 😩
Game1.DrawDialogue(Game1.getCharacterFromName(__instance.Builder),
brittle pasture
Wdym?
as in your code that adds fish to location data? assuming that's what you're trying to debug
uncut viper
DrawDialogue handles null speakers doesnt it?
brittle pasture
oh yeah it does, I was looking at the wrong place, crisis averted
lucid iron
```Game1.DrawDialogue(Game1.getCharacterFromName(__instance.Builder),```
well its probably good that i made all of them magical construction
brittle pasture
but yeah, dialogue will have no portraits, the building spot will also be blank, I think everything's fine
lucid iron
perhaps fun to fetch portraits for not real npcs 
like just attempt load from Portraits/character or smth
i aint gonna scope creep u when i have no usecase for this tho
brittle pasture
too lazy, just add a two line antisocial NPC entry plx
rigid oriole
This game... has... so many cutscenes....
I am watching every cutscene in this game for this mod
a lot of these cutscenes r actually so cute. I never would have seen a lot of them otherwise
rigid oriole
did you help with translations?
calm nebula
It takes hours btw and also i didn't watch then in full
No. Pathos was refactoring event commands
rigid oriole
ah
i have figured out the part where it takes hours yes 💀
I think I have 14 locations left. some have only 1 or 2 events tho
calm nebula
I turned on thr event autoplayer the left it to run on mg laptop lol
Different languages b/c game has separate event scripts per language
And sometimes those would have subtle mistakes
Anyways.
Let's knit
rigid oriole
atra knit mod when
calm nebula
Never I'm very retired
tawny ore
How about modding your knitting?
uncut viper
Different languages b/c game has separate event scripts per language
had, soon 
urban patrol
probably dumb question: i had assumed modders had to add ATA as a dependency to use it. is that true?
rigid oriole
ata?
urban patrol
alternative tilesheets access
calm nebula
_had_, soon <:SDVpuffersmile:594572108634390528>
Whatever CA cooks up for 1.7 will be super cool
uncut viper
do you actually think itll be a 1.7
urban patrol
oops yes arbitrary
uncut viper
technically if ATA loads before their mod, they dont sstrictly have to
but thats true of any dependency
urban patrol
ah gotcha. i expected downloads to be way higher then (not knocking you, it just seems so useful)
lucid mulch
its almost 3 hours for all events
uncut viper
90% of the time someone asks "how can i use tilesheets from other folders?" and i/someone else tells them about ATA, they say something to the effect of "ah ok. ill just deal with so i dont have an extra dependency"
rigid oriole
its almost 3 hours for all events
it's a little bit painful but bit by bit i shall get through it
uncut viper
at one point chu asked Pathos about stealing ATA for SMAPI itself and he said it was on his TODO.txt but honestly i couldnt tell if he was joking or not
rigid oriole
fully unrelated: custom bush works on top of the vanilla tea bush functionality right?
lucid iron
https://youtu.be/3BZkbbEI4u0
Stardew the Movie
lucid iron
fully unrelated: custom bush works on top of the vanilla tea bush functionality ...
yea basically it makes 1x1 Bush and then patch it to do stuff
rigid oriole
neato thanks
fierce vault
Hi. I'm working on my map again, and unfortunately I've forgotten how to mass move a bunch of layers. I used ctrl to select multiple layers in the layers pane at once, but now I can't seem to move them anywhere. I also don't really understand what rectangular select is for if it doesn't help with that. Anyone able to help?
brave fable
Hi. I'm working on my map again, and unfortunately I've forgotten how to mass mo...
honestly i'm not sure if you can - i've tried moving multiple layers at a time, but Tiled simply adds an offset value to the layer itself that isn't applied ingame
fierce vault
Oh, what I meant was mass copying all the layers actually
brave fable
you likely need to copy all tiles in each layer with the Stamp tool, clear the layer, and Stamp them in again where you need them
fierce vault
So that I can past them over the old
ivory plume
at one point chu asked Pathos about stealing ATA for SMAPI itself and he said it...
(TODO.txt line 200.)
golden oar
Having some issues with a CP mod I'm making.
I have some "custom" versions of maps that are used for events to change sprites. I have done similar ones for Pierres shop, Haley's house, ect, but now I'm trying to make one for the forest.
I did the same thing I always do (make a copy of the map from the unpacked game files, rename it, place it in my events folder, and edit my content file that loads the maps. But now I get this message:
[game] Couldn't create the 'Custom_Forest' location. Is its data in Data/Locations invalid?
Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Content.ContentLoadException: The content file was not found.
---> FileNotFoundException: Could not find file 'D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Stardew Valley\Content\Maps\Custom_Forest.xnb'.
File name: 'D:\SteamLibrary\steamapps\common\Stardew Valley\Content\Maps\Custom_Forest.xnb'
I am 99% sure I did everything the exact same way I did before. What could be causing the issue?
fierce vault
you likely need to copy all tiles in each layer with the Stamp tool, clear the l...
I have done it before, tho I don't remember exactly how. the stamp tool is not working on all the layers at once for some reason. It's possible, but I'm fumbling the steps
golden oar
my content file looks like this:
{
"Action": "Load",
"Target": "Maps/Custom_SeedShop, Maps/Custom_LeahHouse, Maps/Custom_Sunroom, Maps/Custom_HaleyHouse, Custom_Forest",
"FromFile": "assets/Jsons/Events/{{TargetWithoutPath}}.tmx"
},
{
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/Locations",
"Entries": {
"Custom_SeedShop": {
"CreateOnLoad": { "MapPath": "Maps/Custom_SeedShop" }
},
"Custom_LeahHouse": {
"CreateOnLoad": { "MapPath": "Maps/Custom_LeahHouse" }
},
"Custom_HaleyHouse": {
"CreateOnLoad": { "MapPath": "Maps/Custom_HaleyHouse" }
},
"Custom_Forest": {
"CreateOnLoad": { "MapPath": "Maps/Custom_Forest" }
},
"Custom_Sunroom": {
"CreateOnLoad": { "MapPath": "Maps/Custom_Sunroom" }
}
}
},
it was 78 last time! downgraded priorities 
/j
golden oar
Only the forest one doesnt work
calm nebula
Is pathos todo.txt a stack or a queue
ivory plume
It's a random access cache.
lucid mulch
one day I will actually write down my todo list, but thats on my todo list
calm nebula
https://youtu.be/3BZkbbEI4u0
Now dp every branch at 4x speed
brave fable
you'd only have one line in your todo if it were a slash-delimited string 😌
uncut viper
gotta BOGO sort your TODO.txt until one you feel like doing ends up first
lucid mulch
but the slash delimited strings can be newline seperated /s
calm nebula
Okay let's be punchy in #programmers-off-topic
woeful lintel
I always end up doing the thing that is most enjoyable to implement on the todo list over the thing peopel actually ask for
soft granite
Is there any mod that assigns kissing to, like, a button? I’m using hugs and kisses continued and while i want to be able to kiss a spouse multiple times i don’t want to keep accidentally doing it multiple times ina row when im just trying to talk to them
calm nebula
That's a very easy mod
uncut viper
you'd wanna ask in #modded-stardew
calm nebula
Be the change
brave fable
@uncut viper assigned kisser 💏
soft granite
I guess i’m willing to do it, but if it already exists id rather do that lol
woeful lintel
FF i18n integration has been on my TODO list for so long now...
calm nebula
It'll take twenty minutes
rigid oriole
Gotta do i18n from the start. Mistake I only made once lol
soft granite
Alright, i’ll try it
woeful lintel
Gotta do i18n from the start. Mistake I only made once lol
Many such cases...
calm nebula
Stairmaster does not lend to coding
woeful lintel
Currently in custom data model hell because of whatever the hell I did to parse Furniture Packs...
calm nebula
I would say trade you but I like the stairmaster
soft granite
I actually already tried looking at Hugs and Kisses to see if i could borrow some code from it, but I don't actually know how to read a .dll
woeful lintel
Check if the source code is available
woeful lintel
Is there any mod that assigns kissing to, like, a button? I’m using hugs and kis...
This
lucid iron
oh i see
ok sadly it's not as easy as changing a keybind
however, it should be fairly easy to add a modifier key you have to hold down
slap it here
uncut viper
checkaction skipping prefix my beloathed
soft granite
oh! I didn't think about just looking at github. I normally just look at the content patcher files
lucid iron
A dll is a compiled C# mod so if there's source (e.g. collection of cs files) u should look at it
Next step is getting it to build with your changes
fierce vault
Hi. I'm working on my map again, and unfortunately I've forgotten how to mass mo...
Oh, I figured it out (again...)
I selected all the layers by right. clicking and choosing the option while on the stamp brush, and then it let me right click and adjust a box over every layer I wanted to stamp. Maybe my tiled was glitching out, or I really wasn't trying it exactly the way I was supposed to, but it's working now!
I also easily cleared the all layers after selecting everything with my stamp tool, so I'm very relieved that I can continue adjusting my map in massive ways.
worldly sundial
@lucid iron @balmy venture I missed your messages last week asking about Stardio, the conveyor belts are animated by switching to the next index on the sprite sheet every ~100ms.
I think the website that says open source or not doesn't show it as available but it is https://github.com/jokthefoo/StardewMods/tree/main/Stardio
The drawing is very messy, doing something like junimos carrying the items would be hard since the belts are animated individually, and animate whether or not there is an item
left nova
my content file looks like this:
{
"Action": "Load",
"Target":...
Should be Maps/Custom_Forest in Target field.
crisp galleon
I hope I’m not intruding on anything. Please point me in the right direction if this is the wrong chat. I was just wondering where a good place to go would be for commissioning somebody to make a mod for me?
uncut viper
!commissions
ocean sailBOT
uncut viper
however its also a good idea to say what your idea is to see if it just alreeady exists first
crisp galleon
Ohh thank you
uncut viper
(though truthfully im not sure if talking about it for commissions is better here or in #modded-stardew)
crisp galleon
Yeah I was looking for it but I haven’t been able to find it. It is just editing the marriage dialogue to remove whenever the spouse is angry at you for having a messy home. It makes me very sad so I want it gone.
woeful lintel
Pretty easy to avoid as a player imo
uncut viper
it would also probably be a pretty easy first time mod too, if you felt like giving it a shot yourself
crisp galleon
Hmm maybe. Tho I don’t know anything about coding
uncut viper
i think the hardest part would just be finding where the string is in the files, though that becomes very easy if you know what the spouse says
crisp galleon
Pretty easy to avoid as a player imo
People keep saying that, but no matter how cleanly I decorate my home I still get this dialogue.
I know the dialogue starts with “You could’ve cleaned up in here while I was gone.” Or something ever similar.
lucid iron
<@275089066607771648> <@169583152480649216> I missed your messages last week ask...
The site needs u to link the source on mod page to autopopulate, did u do that?
uncut viper
i think you get that if the spouse is unable to find a path to the spot they like to stand in the kitchen
hard fern
Ah yeah
uncut viper
but, either way, that dialogue doesnt actually affect friendship or anything, so itd be very very easy to just replace it with some nicer text
lucid iron
Ty for replying tho and it is about why i imagined
crisp galleon
but, either way, that dialogue doesnt actually affect friendship or anything, so...
Yeah that can work too
uncut viper
Yeah that can work too
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Strings/StringsFromCSFiles",
"Entries": {
"NPC.cs.4500": "Your nicer text goes here."
}
Something softer with more of a smile expression. I think the romanceable rasmodius mod already has something like that where he suggests teaching you some magic to help with cleaning or something.
uncut viper
thats it, thats the mod
crisp galleon
```json
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Strings/StringsFromCSFiles",
"Entries":...
Wow!
uncut viper
just gotta put it in a content patcher json
crisp galleon
Ohh ok. I dunno how to do that. Is there a guide somewhere.
uncut viper
!startmodding
ocean sailBOT
uncut viper
the wiki tutorial for content patcher linked in the first bullet point should get you there
crisp galleon
Thank u!
uncut viper
it has an example under the "Content format" section and you can basically replace those two "Action" blocks with what i sent and you're good to go
that + a manifest.json, described here, though you can just copy from another content patcher mod probably and change the details inside
crisp galleon
I’m going to bed now, so I will sit down and put it together tomorrow. I might come back here if I run into any issues.
uncut viper
feel free, theres almost always someone here to help out 
crisp galleon
Thank u for your help
balmy venture
<@275089066607771648> <@169583152480649216> I missed your messages last week ask...
Thank you @worldly sundial I'm working on some ideas, when I have something decent I will PM you! ❤️
golden oar
Should be `Maps/Custom_Forest` in `Target` field.
oh wow im really blind. Thanks man!
idle lantern
I'm so close!
pseudo timber
hi guys :3 uhm im like extremely new to this but i wanna try to make a mod that adds in some custom NPCs, anyone got any tips/advice?
tiny zealot
!npc
ocean sailBOT
tiny zealot
enjoy the journey! making an npc isn't especially difficult per se, but there is a lot to do, so be prepared for it to take some time
vernal crest
And if you use an existing NPC as an example, make sure it's a recent one so you don't accidentally learn outdated or unhelpful practices!
past knot
Yall, I have a question. I'm trying to make an npc that changes appearace after year 2 for good. this would be done through the appearance system..right?
lucid iron
if u wanna just load a different tx when year >= 2 that works too
idle lantern
I think I'm done just about done. I have my events, my dialogue, my marriage stuff, movie stuff. Schedules are done, and working. I need to do the resort stuff, and Config manager stuff for alternate portraits, but that's extra
pseudo vault
Question, would this work without a dependency mod?
I heard someone say the new Content patcher allows wider sprites
past knot
also, is there an updated map making tutorial..I just realized the one I was using is SEVERELY outdated..
lucid iron
I heard someone say the new Content patcher allows wider sprites
i think they r not correct 
does depend on what you want them to do tho
pseudo vault
Well, I wanted to replace Lewis with Thomas
pseudo vault
i think they r not correct <:PecoSmile:720612804511531008>
They should be... I based it on a Lewis spritesheet but obviously changed the dimensions to fit Thomas on it
And yeah, a few sprites are... improvised you could say
lucid iron
so the issue with bigger than usual npc is the collision
although you can make them more big they get stuck on things
pseudo vault
although you can make them more big they get stuck on things
Wait, so it's not just visual but it also makes it collision wise bigger?
pseudo vault
I really hoped I was able to get Thomas in...
I miss the dude
and then I was going to do Gourmet
lucid iron
theres a framework that fixes the collision, poohcore
so yea you can do it just not with content patcher alone
pseudo vault
So is "SpritesInDetail" unnecessary?
lucid iron
That mod does something different but it could also work for this
It's more about getting hd sprites
pseudo vault
It's kinda like cheating, made for HD but could technically be used for sprites that are bigger than base SV
pseudo vault
Do you know if poohcore needs everyone to have the mod installed? Or in other words what if player 1 does not want to use a sprite replacement but Player 2 wants to?
lucid iron
!mpmods
ocean sailBOT
pseudo vault
I'll try and understand this. thanks.
lucid iron
this is just advice saying "don't mismatch mods"
pseudo vault
Yeah, we're always using the same mods that adds stuff. But visual wise, we use very different ones. Because we have different tastes, I love the custom Mr Ginger portrait which makes him look anime, but my buddy dislikes that one.
pseudo vault
Looks like poohcore can't handle bigger than 64x64 for portraits...
devout otter
PoohCore is for bigger overworld sprite, not bigger portraits.
devout otter
That's because all NPC needs a portrait, so Pooh needed to include portrait files to load the NPC for the example.
pseudo vault
I didn't know. Thanks for explaining.
lucid iron
You can crop him a lil to fit right
pseudo vault
The content json is confusing me as well
pseudo vault
You can crop him a lil to fit right
Thanks but I think I'll use portraiture
devout otter
(in any case, typically people would just crop the portraits to make them fit. Like in vanilla, Demetrius's shoulders also don't fit.)
pseudo vault
I don't think it would look good if the Hat is cut off
HM DS sprites really are big
lucid iron
He's not at a even multiple of 64x64 tho
Unless u want them all to be 128x128 with bunch of whitespace
pseudo vault
wait 96 does not work?
lucid iron
You might get weird half pixels
I realize im weird for being bothered by this but it's not ideal
pseudo vault
No it's normal. I didn't know portraiture would do mixels if it's not 64 128 and so on
64x64 sadly would not work
lucid iron
It's not really portraiture problem
Most of the game draws at 4x
Some random stuff gets 3, and ofc there's zoom in/out effects that gotta be mixels
pseudo vault
This stuff is so complicated
lucid iron
Perhaps u can do 86? It'd be 64 * 4 / 3
pseudo vault
Yolo
But first I need to figure out how to edit the content json from the example to only edit the sprites and not make a new NPC
Deleting the new npc stuff has resulted in the json to be invalid
devout otter
There should be an "Editing a vanilla NPC" example in the PoohCore documentation.
past knot
For spouse floors, does it have to be put in as (FL)#?
idle lantern
the spouse room after getting married?
gentle rose
For spouse floors, does it have to be put in as (FL)#?
what does, exactly?
past knot
the random floors an npc can put around the farmhouse
latent mauve
(Optional) The floors and wallpapers which the NPC may randomly apply to the farmhouse when married to the player. If omitted or empty, the NPC will randomly choose a base floor (0–39) or wallpaper (0–111).
That ^
I'm not at my computer, but you could probably look at one of the vanilla character files to see how the IDs are used. I think Penny redecorates?
idle lantern
I can't get my NPC's marriage dialogue or schedules to load. Not sure what I'm doing incorrectly.
Character: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/2cc5e1f57ea0465caf7ae72ca61f269d
MarriageDialogueNPC: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/cb18ec19a26e47449723dd45851a829e
schedules: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/35540fac62944a6c991166d3de4c2ce8
content: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/c9ce0e73422343cdba28ac60844dc1fc
Smapi: https://smapi.io/log/3c0c1e6c35a542feaeaa74bfd4d37b9e
The dialogue was working before - like when he was on the patio or in the spouse room.
formal crown
Hello @spice inlet! I've got a bug report pointing at a small issue when you use VPP's Vast Domain talent and PIF rooms together. The bug is basically all catchable fish in PIF rooms suddenly become trash once you enable Vast Domain and sleep. Do you have any idea on why or how?
(Some extra detail in case its helpful - Vast Domain's edits are done through CP, and its supposed to affect only legendary fish in Beach, Mountain and PT. )
https://smapi.io/log/2401a436e674474bab22298e7ff24f0d (I'd ignore the outdated mods and SMAPI - back in time the user reproduced it with only 8 mods)
(Attached my log, Data/Locations and DLX.PIF_Farms assets, and my .json for Vast Domain's edits - it's at the very bottom of the file)
These mods were used to reproduce the bug (I tried using the greenhouse version of Krikos island per Chu's suggestion, but the greenhouse was unaffected)
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/28346
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/29586
ocean sailBOT
Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home Single Language, with 38 C# mods and 21 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them, SMAPI is out of date, consider updating it
spice inlet
Hello! I'll take a look after work ^^
latent mauve
I can't get my NPC's marriage dialogue or schedules to load. Not sure what I'm d...
Can you also post your Data/Characters code and the SMAPI log in case there is an error showing up?
idle lantern
Can you also post your Data/Characters code and the SMAPI log in case there is a...
Updated!
the log is saying the room can't be found, but when I load the game up, it's there
urban patrol
it's talking about a dialogue key, not the room itself
idle lantern
Ah
I don't know what I did, but he's using his spouse dialogue now, at least in the spouse room. He isn't following the schedule
latent mauve
Did you by chance sleep?
idle lantern
I may have, I don't remember at this point. I've been closing the game down and reopening it
latent mauve
Schedules do take an extra day to update if you have changed the code recently (patch reload doesn't remove the need to sleep).
idle lantern
it looks like I did. I can't test his star drop line any more
latent mauve
NPC pathfinding is set the night before, so a lot of times "my npc isn't following their new schedule" is because you need to sleep to let it pathfind again.
idle lantern
ah, ty!
Ah, found it. "Target": "Character/Schedules/{{ModId}}_Rahiel",
needs to be Characters
latent mauve
Good catch!
past knot
Screw it, but does anyone know if any expansions happen to modify this area behind clints???
i don't particularly play any major expansions to know :''D
ashen urchin
Can someone send me the Crops.json data file?
vernal crest
Screw it, but does anyone know if any expansions happen to modify this area beh...
Yes, SVE completely changes that area
pseudo vault
Screw it, but does anyone know if any expansions happen to modify this area beh...
Stardew valley reimagined does.
pseudo vault
Anyone know what this means? "Load TerrainFeatures/spring_tree_palm: the When field is invalid: invalid input arguments (Beach), token MapsToIgnore doesn't allow input."
pseudo vault
welp, nevermind that. I tried porting an old (for personal use) mod and I think I broke something...
elder hornet
Hi! I can't work out the right format for tiledata for a custom shop. Im not sure what should go in what part of the 2 sections and should the name not be in quotation marks?
inner harbor
how does one use TriggerActions to repeat events pls? Anyone got an example in their mod?
I was using EventLookup but just realized it doesn't seem to be working...
lucid iron
Hi! I can't work out the right format for tiledata for a custom shop. Im not sur...
Take out the quote perhaps but that shouldn't matter. What is your Data/Shops edit?
elder hornet
Take out the quote perhaps but that shouldn't matter. What is your Data/Shops ed...
When I tested it like this, nothing happened when I clicked the tiles. No error, nothing. Reloaded and started a new game to reload the map
lucid iron
Hm ok so you will want to prefix rhat with your mod is (ModId_Kuchels) but besides that it is right
What's the full OpenShop string?
elder hornet
I only have this right now, since I figured I would find out if it work before adding opening hours and such
But this was the full draft
lucid iron
Yeah so u definitely dont need [ ]
lucid iron
I only have this right now, since I figured I would find out if it work before a...
But this one should work i think?
elder hornet
Okay, I will retry without the brackets
leave the quoters or delete them too to be sure?
Do I need any other actions in the tiledata?
lucid iron
how does one use TriggerActions to repeat events pls? Anyone got an example in t...
Did u try debug action MarkEventSeen Current <event ID> false
lucid iron
Do I need any other actions in the tiledata?
Nop
elder hornet
Thank you for your help, gonna test again now 🙂
inner harbor
I think so but I didn't have the triggeractions set to be repeated!
hopefully I didn't delete the code...
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/TriggerActions",
"Entries": {
"Lemurkat.Jasper_PlayDateReset": {
"ID": "mail.Lemurkat.Jasper_PlayDateReset",
"Trigger": "DayEnding",
"Condition": "ANY \"PLAYER_HAS_SEEN_EVENT Current 15749301\" \"PLAYER_HAS_SEEN_EVENT Current 15749302\" ",
"MarkActionApplied": false,
"Actions": [
"RemoveMail Current playDateYes.1 Now",
"RemoveMail Current playDateYes.2 Now",
"RemoveMail Current playDateYes Now",
"MarkEventSeen Current 15749302 false",
"MarkEventSeen Current 15749301 false"
]
},
```Oh i think u need MarkActionApplied false
As in a field on this trigger action
If u don't have it it'll only run once
lucid iron
Since it probably already got marked remember to do debug action MarkActionApplied blah blah
inner harbor
it shouldn't matter if not all of those actions are true, should it? Like if the mail doens't exist, it won't break if it can't find it?
finite ginkgo
Yeah it’ll be fine
inner harbor
haha thanks for that - I'd absolutely forget - but I can also rename it anyway.
finite ginkgo
If it doesn’t exist it just won’t do anything since there’s nothing to remove, no warning given
inner harbor
that's good because there are multiple combinations and I don't want to try and write it out for all of them!
(actually I only did it for the playdate ones, but couldn't get it to work so haven't written reset code for the other events yet). Has DateNight been updated? Are they still using EventRepeater?
finite ginkgo
The 1.6 date night has been around for a while and I don’t remember them needing event repeater, no
inner harbor
yeh they don't so they must've switched to TriggerActions
lucid iron
Date night redux ye
inner harbor
AgentLyoko is really clued up on the code side of things
downloaded it 🙂 I could do with some Jasper dates anyway.
(I think I still have my personal use edits somewhere - I HOPE I do!)
pseudo vault
New question, is it possible to make something like this? In HM DS one has to use Mushroom Seeds on Stumps, which then slowly grow into bigger mushrooms. Some more info
"After the mushroom takes its initial growth time, picking it will return it to small size. Then you just have to water each day and after 3 days, you can harvest it at small size again. If you leave it alone, the mushroom will grow to medium size and if unharvested, grow to a large size."
Not sure if the size changes can be simulated. Maybe that could be just the Quality instead?
I am asking because I haven't seen a Mushroom mod like that yet.
lucid iron
These r some specific mechanics
I believe the easiest approximation is a mushroom crop that has a giant crop
pseudo vault
Yeah HM DS really has weird crops...
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pseudo vault
Yeah HM DS really has weird crops...
and to make it worse...
I guess something like this could work within the SV limits...
Kinda weird when you think about it. A DS game has more complex crops than a PC game.
tiny zealot
i don't think it's that weird. different developers make different decisions
pseudo vault
Fair
pseudo vault
Is it possible to make them not shake?
lucid iron
They shake when u harvest but maybe u can set the sound
pseudo vault
Oh boy! Who is hyped to wait for 59 days just to get a Mushroom?
Ancient Seeds step aside! There's a new crop in town!
lucid iron
It better be worth more than sweet gem berry
pseudo vault
Price is based on the Large variant
And to make it even better. They cost 3000
"She sells Shiitake spores in her shop for 3000 G per bag"
calm quiver
Price is based on the Large variant
What is this from?
pseudo vault
Harvest Moon DS
calm quiver
Ah
lucid iron
I think u should make this crop survive winter
tiny zealot
"She sells Shiitake spores in her shop for 3000 G per bag"
she sells shiitake spores in the shii store
pseudo vault
I think u should make this crop survive winter
Better to use the Greenhouse.
Wish there was a way to limit it to the Greenhouse...
But I think the long growing time is a good enough hint
lucid iron
You can set planting conditions i think
pseudo vault
Wait there was something like that?
Uhhh... Is it PlantableLocationRules?
I don't really understand them
They don't exactly explain how to set the area
brittle pasture
look at the vanilla cactus for an example
pseudo vault
Doesn't that one only grow in a Garden Pot?
brittle pasture
no, it's indoors or ginger island
pseudo vault
Oh...
I misunderstood how it works
Looks to be this one?
But I am a bit confused about why it uses Location is outdoors and not Indoors
pseudo vault
Well... uh... I am not confident in my PC storage
pseudo vault
So I kinda want to avoid files I don't need...
tiny zealot
(broadly, you do need StardewXNBHack for dealing with 1.6's content files. it knows how to handle stardew's data formats correctly, and other unpackers do not)
pseudo vault
I wished there was a way to choose specific files... I know I sound crazy, but I feel like my storage gets smaller and smaller, even after cleaning out stuff I no longer need.
even after almost removing every Game, My HDD is at 543/940GB
I am afraid.
brittle pasture
....I thought you were like 127/128 on a potato or smth
that's nothing lmao
just unpack everything
pseudo vault
If it's okay to ask, can I use "Greenhouse" as a Location Context?
brittle pasture
Location Name, not Context
pseudo vault
So I rename the context to Location name?
brittle pasture
LOCATION_NAME Here Greenhouse
brittle pasture
(this does mean the crop can only grow in the vanilla greenhouse, not any of the modded ones)
rough lintel
no
pseudo vault
That's good.
lucid iron
Is there a gsq for checking the greenhousiness
rough lintel
shrug
pseudo vault
gsq?
brittle pasture
if you wanna ban them from indoor pots that's possible too
but eh I'd just use is indoors
balmy valve
Hw do I make a conditional EditMap?
I also tried it with a When: content patcher condition but it didn't work
tiny zealot
When is how you make any content patcher patch conditional
you can't use GSQ in CP When conditions but you can (realistically, must) use tokens: https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/tokens.md
balmy valve
so when hasreadletter
tiny zealot
the game has its own method for doing its conditional map patches (abigail's monster grave, the map shortcuts, etc.), but it's not exposed to mods as a data asset or anything else. if it were, you would theoretically use GSQ to set them up
left nova
so when hasreadletter
"HasFlag:currentPlayer|contains=Delkior_ArrivalLetter": true
balmy valve
```"HasFlag:currentPlayer|contains=Delkior_ArrivalLetter": true```
thank youu
left nova
IIRC.
tiny zealot
typically you use HasFlag, yeah, since HasReadLetter only counts for entries in data/mail that were displayed to the player
balmy valve
it is a letter tho
tiny zealot
oh in that case it should be fine
calm nebula
HasReadLetter I thought worked for all mail
balmy valve
```"HasFlag:currentPlayer|contains=Delkior_ArrivalLetter": true```
so i just...replace the whole UnlockConditions line with that?
or do i use a when?
calm nebula
In data/mail or not
left nova
so i just...replace the whole UnlockConditions line with that?
Use it as a When condition.
balmy valve
ok!!
tiny zealot
HasReadLetter I thought worked for all mail
i'm just reading what it says at the CP doc link
balmy valve
tiny zealot
HasReadLetter
The letter IDs opened by the current or specified player. A letter is considered 'opened' if the letter UI was shown.
left nova
You should format like this:
}```
Same issue again. Conditional warp simply not workin'
Should I have kept the warp in Tiled?
Hmmmm
tiny zealot
sounds like a job for patch summary and/or patch export
also make sure you are applying your patches in the correct order
balmy valve
tHere's an ORDER?
tiny zealot
yes. patches are applied in order of priority. if it's tied (e.g. unspecified), they apply in the order they are listed in your content.json
generally better not to specify unless you have to (compatibility with other mods). you control the order of your files so you can just rearrange
balmy valve
Okay, patch summary says tokens not ready:HasFlag
tiny zealot
if you are using Include then imagine the entire contents of the included file gets dumped in that spot when evaluating order
balmy valve
what does tokens not ready mean
latent mauve
It means you are defining your tokens AFTER the code that uses your tokens has run, so you need to reorder your content edits
latent mauve
What is your when condition calling?
balmy valve
to a letter
it's like. checking if the playe read a letter
I reloaded the game and the flag went away
latent mauve
(each action block is one content edit, make sure you are moving the entire block to reorder things and not the contents of the block itself)
balmy valve
IT works in this save file
So
Im gonna load up a new one with no flags and see if it still works
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
its not working
I want the cellar warp (and zero) to only exist after the player has read the mail
latent mauve
How are you applying the flag? I think we need more of your JSON file + the SMAPI log to help at this point
latent mauve
Okay, your Data/Mail entry with the letter is way after your EditMap in the edit order
balmy valve
So I need to put that EditMap at the bottom
Or below the mail
No wait
Mail at the top
Because of the character also relying on the mail
I am going to test that and see if it works
latent mauve
Ok
balmy valve
My content.json is a mess ngl
HANG ON A SECOND
I HAVE AN EVENTS FOLDER
WHY AM I NOT USING IT?!
ehhh too much work
damn. still doesn't work
the character is still there
latent mauve
The validator is also fussing about your warp format, so the log would tell us if that patch is failing in game too. (Minor nitpick: you used Mod_ID instead of Mod_Id in that EditMap patch)
balmy valve
o
latent mauve
Please upload your error log
Even if you don't see red, there might be something in the Trace that helps
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Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 6 C# mods and 1 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them
latent mauve
When you say "the character is still there", are you trying to disable the character before the flag is set? Or is there a schedule change that is supposed to happen?
balmy valve
Disable the character
latent mauve
I didn't see any Condition set on your Data/Characters file
So it's by default set to always be true
balmy valve
ough
latent mauve
The When argument is different than the Condition GSQ
past knot
Could someone explain how the condition for location would work? This is specifically for an appearance that needs to change in only one specific custom location
latent mauve
I do see the When condition
balmy valve
this correct??
balmy valve
Could someone explain how the condition for location would work? This is specifi...
look at the code i just posted. you see that "season" thing? there are different keys for indoor, outdoor, etc
past knot
Like this?
latent mauve
(it is probably worth noting that vanilla sets a -100(?) precedence for winter appearances, so that it is checked before the default)
I think
Let me get to a computer and double check
Otherwise, reordering it so that your default appearance is at the bottom fixes most issues, but remember, appearances don't update until the character moves locations
past knot
Got it! I think Avi's tutorial says that vanilla outfit changes' precedence is usually -1000, so ill try that
latent mauve
this correct??
you moved your mail entry above the Data/Characters entry already, right?
(also keep in mind, the UnlockCondition won't take the character out of the world if they already exist, so you'll need a fresh save to test that change)
Next step would be to do a patch summary in the console to see if your patches are being applied or not
balmy valve
Got it! I think Avi's tutorial says that vanilla outfit changes' precedence is u...
hang on wait wtf how do you know my name??
Wait
past knot
HUH???
spice inlet
Hello <@371608035392487427>! I've got a bug report pointing at a small issue whe...
Hello again!
Ty for bringing this up.
It seems like PIF didn't account for Data/Locations patches after the DayStarted event clearing and refilling the locations data. The fix will be included in the next release probably sometime next week.
ornate trellis
hang on wait wtf how do you know my name??
avi as in aviroen, thats a user here
ornate trellis
gotta commit now, change it to spice
ornate trellis
bad news theyre still active in the discord lol
ornate trellis
balmy valve
YAY patch works!
latent mauve
Okay, good. 🙂
balmy valve
now i need to check the schedule dialogue which SHOULD work and i really hope it does because I've got some funny as f lines in there
Um
Since things inside a json are loaded top to bottom
Is there a way to change schedule priorities?
Like can I make "friday" come before "rain"?
latent mauve
schedule entries follow a set algorithm for which keys are checked first.
Rain will always be checked first.
latent mauve
I gave a suggestion earlier (like a day or so ago) that you change your "rain" schedule to point to your Friday schedule on Fridays instead.
latent mauve
Using "When" conditions to change it only on that weekday is the workaround for the rain thing. 🙂
But you do still have to be using the "rain" key since that's what it checks. You just change the value that key uses on Friday.
balmy valve
okk
latent mauve
You can even make it super simple with GOTO
balmy valve
mfw schedule dialogue don't work T-T
latent mauve
"Target":"Characters/schedules/{{ModId}}_DelKior",
"Entries": {
"rain": "GOTO Fri"
},
"When": {
"DayOfWeek": "Friday"
}
}```
something like thatforgot to load it 💀
latent mauve
LOL
GOTO Fri literally tells the game "hey, stop running the rain schedule and run the Fri schedule instead", so it's pretty straight-forward
latent mauve
Did you load your schedule dialogue file as a blank.json first?
If you're using "Action":"Load" for a file that has tokens in it (like {{ModId}}) it gets very angry xD
balmy valve
Did you load your schedule dialogue file as a blank.json first?
i did not
the schedule works, just the dialogue doesn't
okay so this should be loading from a blank.json
and then getting edited right?
latent mauve
Yep, and then your actual schedule dialogue patch should be EditData
latent mauve
You can't EditData with a FromFile in the same block, you would instead do an Include, and inside your included JSON, use "Action":"EditData" instead of "Action":"Load"
latent mauve
so, your SPScheduleDialogue.json is where you need to make sure it's "Action":EditData"
balmy valve
ok
latent mauve
Nope, include doesn't use a target.
It just tells content patcher "Hey, drop the contents of this JSON file right here in this file"
balmy valve
so here i need to add an action editdata
latent mauve
You can't define a target for an Include, because the target is the JSON file you're currently in. 🙂
Correct you need to turn that into an "Action":"EditData" block, and make your current block the "Entries" list inside that
I don't see any tokens in there though, unless they've been cut off
latent mauve
If it's still red errors, post the log please
latent mauve
You need to define a target in there
balmy valve
forgot changes whoops
latent mauve
Target should be your Strings/schedules/{{ModId}}_SantosPerez based on what I saw from the blank load
latent mauve
Woohoo!
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Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 6 C# mods and 1 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them
latent mauve
FileNotFoundException: Could not find file 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Stardew Valley\Content\Strings\schedules\{{ModId}}_SantosPerez.xnb'. okay this usually means that it wasn't loaded properly, but I am more concerned about the fact that it doesn't look like that {{ModId}} token parsed
balmy valve
Nah that's what it always looks like
uncut viper
(it shouldn't)
balmy valve
`FileNotFoundException: Could not find file 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steama...
i think it was loaded properly..how do I know?
latent mauve
Is your Changes field fully enclosing the action block in your include, by the way?
latent mauve
Okay, just wanted to be sure
balmy valve
Gave me an error when it didn't
latent mauve
That's DelKior's dialogue, and SantoPerez is the one failing
uncut viper
if they are, they're both formatted wrong
uncut viper
your delkor one has action and entries inside your entries
latent mauve
Yes, you have an extra Action in there
latent mauve
Next question: is your action:include block AFTER the load block for the blank.json?
This probably matters less, because Load should always operate first in priority anyway
balmy valve
Yes it is, for both
latent mauve
I need to find lunch
balmy valve
go eat
latent mauve
If nobody else has jumped in to help by the time I am back, I will take a closer look at your code, but right now I lack the fuel to diagnose that unparsed token
balmy valve
that's ok
light bramble
Working on a personal AT content pack, and I am a bit confused on something. One of the require fields is Type But I don't know if it just needs Craftable or something else. The item I want to have AT textures is a torch...
latent mauve
okay, back from my lunch. FallSpice, do you have an updated content JSON for me to look at with all the SantosPerez patches?
latent mauve
Working on a personal AT content pack, and I am a bit confused on something. One...
In this case, it does look like it would be Craftable