#making-mods-general | Stardew Valley | Page 340

uncut viper Jun 15, 2025, 5:46 PM

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you can define one rectangle of space that you want to replace

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if that rectangle is the entire image thenthats fine

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but if you wanted to replace, for example, the top left corner of springobjects and the bottom right corner, thats two separate rectangles of space you'd be replacing

calm quiver Jun 15, 2025, 5:46 PM

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okay

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 5:47 PM

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Also please note that springobjects is not just spring

uncut viper Jun 15, 2025, 5:47 PM

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so you either need two EditImage actions to define those two rectangles separately

calm quiver Jun 15, 2025, 5:47 PM

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calm nebula Also please note that springobjects is not just spring

Yes I found that out lol

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 5:47 PM

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And has all sorts of nonobjects in it

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 5:47 PM

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How load multiple sprite/portrait sheets to one character (e.g. beach and winter)

uncut viper Jun 15, 2025, 5:47 PM

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or what happens is you EditImage over the entire springobjects, which will also replace the bottom left and top right corners, the ones you didnt want to touch

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CP would paste what you had in your edited springobjects over top of the original. even if the pixels didnt change

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so those corners you didnt edit would still get pasted on top of the original

calm quiver Jun 15, 2025, 5:48 PM

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Oh I kept the unchanged ones 👍

uncut viper Jun 15, 2025, 5:48 PM

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then yeah, those unchanged ones would be pasted on top of the unchanged ones in the original

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which means nothing if you dont have other mods

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but if a different mod touches the bottom left corner or top right corner, the corners you didnt edit, then you are pasting on top of their edits now

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you'd be overwriting the other mod, even though you didnt change those corners from anything. bc you kept the originals

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basically, its entirely for compatibility reasons. dont worry about it right now, especially if you plan on replacing the entire sheet eventually anyway

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just keep it in mind if theres a sprite in there you end up not wanting to change

calm quiver Jun 15, 2025, 5:51 PM

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uncut viper which means nothing if you dont have other mods

Oh, I do have it isolated right now. But yeah, compatibility will come later

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 5:52 PM

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Button the brain cell

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Please return it

uncut viper Jun 15, 2025, 5:53 PM

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no

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im still using it to wake up

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 5:57 PM

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balmy valve How load multiple sprite/portrait sheets to one character (e.g. beach and winter...

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round timber Jun 15, 2025, 5:57 PM

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youll want to use the appearance system

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https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:NPC_data#Appearance_.26_sprite

Stardew Valley Wiki

Modding:NPC data

← Index

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 6:06 PM

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on it thx

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Okay I can't figure it out

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https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/f329b66d9e9e488eac032bbce7dce9e2

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I think it might be my entry in the appearance section>

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?

round timber Jun 15, 2025, 6:13 PM

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      "LogName": "NPC Sprite",
      "Action": "Load",
      "Target": "Characters/{{ModId}}_SantosPerez",
      "FromFile": "assets/img/Spritesheets/SantosPerez.png"
    },
    {
      "LogName": "NPC Sprite",
      "Action": "Load",
      "Target": "Characters/{{ModId}}_SantosPerez",
      "FromFile": "assets/img/Spritesheets/SantosPerez_Winter.png"
    },``` this is incorrect, you need to load these to different targets

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 6:14 PM

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ah

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So load to _winter

round timber Jun 15, 2025, 6:14 PM

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yes

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and use that target for the appearance system, not the location in the asset folder

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 6:14 PM

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okay!

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so it should be characters for spritesheets

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should it still be characters for the portraits

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or should it be portraits

round timber Jun 15, 2025, 6:15 PM

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characters for the overworld sprites, portraits for portraits

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 6:16 PM

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okay!

tribal ore Jun 15, 2025, 6:55 PM

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Before I go and check them all individually, does anyone know if all the vanilla NPCs have the kissing sprites on the same indexes?

round timber Jun 15, 2025, 6:55 PM

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iirc they do not

tribal ore Jun 15, 2025, 6:56 PM

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Noooooooooooooo

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SDVpuffersob

fathom hound Jun 15, 2025, 6:58 PM

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Anyone know where I can fix this?

round timber Jun 15, 2025, 7:03 PM

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sprites for those should be in Maps/MenuTiles.png

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 7:06 PM

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I have a house that i put into the map, i made seasonal variations, now what? Do I have to load the seasonal variations, even though they're on the summer, fall, and winter town maps?

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Rn it's loading the map from "z.springtown" or sm

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So throughout seasons, the house stays the same

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 7:09 PM

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you need to make a seasonal tilesheet for your house

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 7:10 PM

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Okay

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So can I just use the modified seasonal variations of the town tilesheet?

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 7:11 PM

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are you using a vanilla sheet here?

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 7:11 PM

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Yes

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 7:11 PM

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then u dont have to do anything NotteThink

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as long as you are editing the map with spring_* u good

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 7:12 PM

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Ok!

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 7:12 PM

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and as long as you dont have the png in ur folder i think

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 7:12 PM

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alr

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just to be clear

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this is the sheet i'm using, a modified vanilla

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i can name this to "z.wintertown" and put it in the sheets folder in my maps folder?

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Now that im thinking about it it prolly woulda been way easier to make a separate tilesheet for my house instead of copying and editing a vanilla one but ah well

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it did not work so into debugging we go :D

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yeah idk wtf im doing

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Okay there's a seasonoverride command??

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Idk how to use it tho?

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im looking online its giving me nothin' at all!!

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AA

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 7:21 PM

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why did you copy the entire vanilla sheet

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 7:21 PM

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Macaroni code indeed 😔

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 7:21 PM

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is this the only bit that's new?

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 7:21 PM

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lucid iron why did you copy the entire vanilla sheet

i don't know i think the tutorial i used was telling me to

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yes

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 7:21 PM

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load it as a new sheet then

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 7:21 PM

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ok

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with all seasonal variants on the same sheet? or as different sheets?

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 7:22 PM

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separate

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 7:22 PM

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okay

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 7:22 PM

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for modded seasonal sheets you would want to load spring_* summer_* fall_* winter_* to Maps

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use mod id in the name so its unique and stuff

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but not at the very front cus thats for seasons

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after that add sheet to your map patch

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 7:23 PM

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okay

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and for the map patch i edit town and replace a certain section with tiles from these tilesheets?

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right?

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 7:31 PM

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you would make a map with just your house and then do EditMap replacebylayer

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i want to recommend against putting your npc right in town though, compat nightmare

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 7:32 PM

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she walks with a cane there's really not many places i could put her that she could feasibly reach

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replacebylayer?

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what is that

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{ "Action": "EditMap", "Target": "Maps/Town", "FromFile": "assets/Maps/AltaTown.tmx", "FromArea": { "X": 51, "Y": 37, "Width": 14, "Height": 10 }, "ToArea": { "X": 51, "Y": 37, "Width": 14, "Height": 10 } },

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this is what i have rn

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i cloned the town map and added her house in thru tiled

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Okay, so I would open tiled, make a map with all of the properties but it's just the house, and then i edit the town map and replace a certain section by layer, right?

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 7:40 PM

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https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editmap.md

GitHub

StardewMods/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editmap.md at d...

Mods for Stardew Valley using SMAPI. Contribute to Pathoschild/StardewMods development by creating an account on GitHub.

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check the PatchMode section

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what you are currently doing is fine-ish, we can worry about removing tiles you don't plan on editing later

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first try to fix up your tilesheet so that it's actually custom

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 7:41 PM

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i did

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it's all the house now

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 7:41 PM

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lucid iron for modded seasonal sheets you would want to load `spring_* summer_* fall_* wint...

do this part i mean

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and check that seasonal works

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 7:42 PM

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okay!

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just to "maps"?

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 7:45 PM

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Maps/spring_FallSpice.ModName_House

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whatever matches ur tmx

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 7:45 PM

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okay

calm quiver Jun 15, 2025, 7:46 PM

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OMG guyyyssss

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Oh those leaves need more contrast but its in!!!

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 7:47 PM

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Omg it looks so cute!!!!

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 7:47 PM

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lucid iron whatever matches ur tmx

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So, this?

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then i edit town map by layer

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adding in the stuff from this map right?

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 7:47 PM

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then you change your tmx to make use of this target

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leave your EditMap alone

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 7:48 PM

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so in this case, i would change "AltaTown.tmx"

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correct?

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by "change your tmx to make use of this target" wdym

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 7:51 PM

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well you were editing with a different file name before right

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z.springtown.png?

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 7:51 PM

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yes

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OHHH

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 7:51 PM

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need to edit with spring_FallSpiace.etc

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 7:51 PM

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Change altatown to use those tiles!! ok got it!!

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 7:51 PM

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also need to fix the tile indicies, since you moved the house all the way up

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might be faster to start from fresh copy of town but whatever works

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 7:53 PM

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huh?

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YAY IT WORKED! THANK YOU CHU2.718!!

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OKAY NOW TO MAKE MORE EVENTS!

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THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE ALSO

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 7:58 PM

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balmy valve

hm i just noticed that you are loading over spring_ every time blobcatgooglyblep

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the game actually lets you just load a sheet to winter_ and it'll switch over

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 7:59 PM

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huh?

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does it do that with all the seasons?

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or can i just load it to winter_ instead of spring_ every time?

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winter_

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instead of spring_

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 8:01 PM

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yea basically

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its how the game's default sheets work aftre all

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mr ape does not have access to content patcher conditions Dokkan

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 8:02 PM

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i se

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see

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 8:05 PM

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Would Mr. Ape want access to content patcher conditions

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 8:13 PM

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i dunno wouldnt mr ape just make more dynamic things blobcatgooglyblep

soft cypress Jun 15, 2025, 8:14 PM

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Apologies for hopping in here out of nowhere, but does anyone know how to properly use assets from someone else's tilesheet mod? I've made a house using Lumisteria's tilesheets (both interior and exterior), and added both as dependancies in my mod, but whenever I open the game SMAPI says that maps can't use tilesheets from outside their own mod folder. I tried looking up how to do it, but everything I'm finding basically just says "Put the tilesheets in your mod's maps folder". I obviously can't put Lumisteria's tilesheets in my mod's maps folder, so I took a peak inside a mod that uses the tilesheets to see how they make it work, but I couldn't find anything. I don't wanna have to remake the entire thing with vanilla assets. (I know next to nothing about making maps, so if this is something really easy to figure out and I'm just stupid, I'm sorry.)

crude plank Jun 15, 2025, 8:15 PM

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Did you embed the tilesheets into your map?

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 8:16 PM

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u put sheet in ur folder when editing

ivory plume Jun 15, 2025, 8:23 PM

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(Data/Hats is now a data model asset in the upcoming Stardew Valley 1.6.16, including support for context tags and custom fields.)

soft cypress Jun 15, 2025, 8:25 PM

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crude plank Did you embed the tilesheets into your map?

The box was checked when I put them in so I assume so

soft cypress Jun 15, 2025, 8:26 PM

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lucid iron u put sheet in ur folder *when editing*

But then wouldn't I get errors after taking them out?

blissful panther Jun 15, 2025, 8:26 PM

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ivory plume ([`Data/Hats` is now a data model asset](<https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:...

(I think I can speak on behalf of everyone when I say we all thoroughly appreciate these new data model conversions.)

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 8:27 PM

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serial evil defeated

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 8:27 PM

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soft cypress But then wouldn't I get errors after taking them out?

no cus you are picking up the game's sheets

blissful panther Jun 15, 2025, 8:28 PM

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lucid iron serial evil defeated

Ooh, I should add an old-style slash delimited representation of every data model in MEEP via the API.

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It will serve zero purpose but to confuse people.

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 8:28 PM

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DH summoning back the evils just in time for saturday morning cartoons...

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 8:29 PM

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ivory plume ([`Data/Hats` is now a data model asset](<https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:...

so pathos what is the plan for old content packs using the slash delim form?

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more of a content patcher question i suppose

blissful panther Jun 15, 2025, 8:30 PM

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(I believe for the previous change it was mentioned CP would get a rewriter/compatibility conversion?)

ivory plume Jun 15, 2025, 8:30 PM

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lucid iron so pathos what is the plan for old content packs using the slash delim form?

Content Patcher will have runtime migrations for those, like it did for the ones that broke in Stardew Valley 1.6.

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 8:30 PM

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yay ukimasu

ivory plume Jun 15, 2025, 8:30 PM

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(XNB mods are out of luck, but XNB modders should be used to that by now.)

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 8:31 PM

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Pathos will recipes get this too

ivory plume Jun 15, 2025, 8:31 PM

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Possibly! Next one I'm looking at is Data/Monsters, which will be a big one since there's a lot of hardcoded monster logic.

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 8:32 PM

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Yayyyyy

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Extra drops too?

ivory plume Jun 15, 2025, 8:32 PM

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Yep, it'll use generic spawn fields for the drops to hopefully de-hardcode drop logic where possible.

soft cypress Jun 15, 2025, 8:33 PM

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lucid iron no cus you are picking up the game's sheets

Okay thank you, I'm just a fool 😭 It's working now 👍

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 8:33 PM

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Yayyyy!!!!

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-1 item from VMV c#

rigid oriole Jun 15, 2025, 8:33 PM

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Im excited to be able to do so much more with just CP

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I say, only ever writing c# mods

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 8:36 PM

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I'm just happy about data models

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It's very easy to make me happy

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I was previously happy about street food potstickers

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 8:37 PM

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excited to decomission monster variety DokkanStare

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 8:37 PM

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You know

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I always wonder what pathos feels about modders going "yay I get to kill X mod I made SDVpufferheart "

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And while you're at it any chance the beach boxes can become a data asset

ivory plume Jun 15, 2025, 8:40 PM

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Abandoning affected framework mods is an unfortunate result, but I feel like having game systems be easy to mod out of the box will lead to a lot more mods in the long run.

blissful panther Jun 15, 2025, 8:41 PM

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That might be an interesting poll. If you get to deprecate a mod you made because of a game update, are you happy about it?

I'd wager there would be a lot more happy than not.

ivory plume Jun 15, 2025, 8:41 PM

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calm nebula And while you're at it any chance the beach boxes can become a data asset

Possibly? That's a bit lower priority compared to some other changes I'd like to get into the next version, but it could definitely be something we look into if/when the mod author beta starts.

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 8:41 PM

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Data/fish is @rigid oriole's request

ivory plume Jun 15, 2025, 8:42 PM

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Yep, Data/Fish is a likely candidate for data-asset-ification in 1.6.16.

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 8:42 PM

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What about the new 1.6 artifact spots and mine barrels

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Or trash bear requests

ivory plume Jun 15, 2025, 8:43 PM

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Possibly! Those would on the 'ask during the mod author beta' end of the priority list.

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 8:43 PM

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data/fish and aquarium fish merger ukimasu

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 8:44 PM

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What about fertilizers 😛

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Or equipment 😛

uncut viper Jun 15, 2025, 8:44 PM

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pathos, if you dont already, i think you should just set up a macro button you can hit to send "Possibly!"

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 8:44 PM

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(I'm mostly joshing now.)

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Hey just use mobile

proud wyvern Jun 15, 2025, 8:45 PM

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Data/HarmonyPatches smh

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 8:45 PM

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uncut viper Jun 15, 2025, 8:45 PM

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proud wyvern Data/HarmonyPatches smh

i approve of this

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 8:45 PM

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Oh my god

uncut viper Jun 15, 2025, 8:45 PM

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itd be the best part of BETAS to be killed by a game update

proud wyvern Jun 15, 2025, 8:46 PM

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Wait. A framework already did that for real? Awful

uncut viper Jun 15, 2025, 8:46 PM

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https://stardew.button.gay/docs/betas/harmony

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a funny little learning exercise/experiment turned far too serious an implementation

proud wyvern Jun 15, 2025, 8:47 PM

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This truly feels awful

uncut viper Jun 15, 2025, 8:47 PM

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thank you!

proud wyvern Jun 15, 2025, 8:48 PM

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Rofl

ivory plume Jun 15, 2025, 8:48 PM

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blissful panther Jun 15, 2025, 8:49 PM

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Hey, if SMAPI controlled everything like this, it might allow for unpatching of individual methods. Which I'm fairly sure Harmony can't do!

uncut viper Jun 15, 2025, 8:49 PM

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it can do this

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kinda

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it re-patches it with 0 patches

blissful panther Jun 15, 2025, 8:50 PM

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I thought an unpatch was all or nothing, though?

uncut viper Jun 15, 2025, 8:50 PM

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theres UnpatchAll and Unpatch(MethodBase original, HarmonyPatchType type, string harmonyId)

blissful panther Jun 15, 2025, 8:51 PM

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Oh. Well, then!

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 8:51 PM

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Can we get data driven fertilizers

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I'm not going to let this go

blissful panther Jun 15, 2025, 8:51 PM

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MoreFertilizers, CP edition.

uncut viper Jun 15, 2025, 8:51 PM

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(that also means you can just be an ass and unpatch another mods patches, globally, without restraint. fun)

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 8:51 PM

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You know that was the original plan

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Framework it

proud wyvern Jun 15, 2025, 8:51 PM

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Data driven skills next

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 8:52 PM

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Data driven equipment

uncut viper Jun 15, 2025, 8:52 PM

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data driven skills would be nice if there were more options to determine when a player earns exp

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from a CP perspective anyway

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 8:52 PM

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Actions :p

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Betas shines

uncut viper Jun 15, 2025, 8:52 PM

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theres not even an AddExperience action in vanilla

ivory plume Jun 15, 2025, 8:52 PM

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(Skills/professions is on my potential list to de-hardcode for 1.6.16, but it'll probably be complex so no guarantees.)

proud wyvern Jun 15, 2025, 8:53 PM

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The hell are actions, I wasn’t following Stardew modding since 1.6 came out

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 8:53 PM

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There isn't? How does that work for the one willy cutscene

uncut viper Jun 15, 2025, 8:53 PM

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theres triggers and trigger actions and trigger action actions

uncut viper Jun 15, 2025, 8:54 PM

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calm nebula There isn't? How does that work for the one willy cutscene

i dont know what scene you mean, but i assume the same way a lot of things like that: the magic of hardcoding

ivory plume Jun 15, 2025, 8:55 PM

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(Technically Data/TriggerActions contains 'actions' (not 'trigger actions') which are triggered based on conditions. For example, it's possible to call actions in other contexts like $action <action> in dialogue/events/etc. But they end up being called 'trigger actions' anyway to differentiate them from 'tile actions', 'player actions', etc.)

uncut viper Jun 15, 2025, 8:55 PM

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i will always call them trigger action actions

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petition to rename Data/TriggerActions to Data/Triggers for 1.6.16 for no other reason than to make this less/more confusing /j

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 8:57 PM

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Oh Pathos while you're here, any chance of gsq for "what player has equipped"

uncut viper Jun 15, 2025, 8:57 PM

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~~Possibly!~~

ivory plume Jun 15, 2025, 8:57 PM

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We had a whole discussion during the 1.6 mod author beta to find a better name for trigger actions, and couldn't think of one. So now we're stuck with it. SDVpufferpensive

ivory plume Jun 15, 2025, 8:57 PM

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calm nebula Oh Pathos while you're here, any chance of gsq for "what player has equipped"

Possibly!

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 8:58 PM

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Pathoschild I have a question

uncut viper Jun 15, 2025, 8:58 PM

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(im also fond of calling them Tractions)

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 8:58 PM

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First of all thank you for making content patcher and the tractor mod

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Secondly

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Do you think you will ever age up to a pathosteen

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 8:58 PM

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SDVpufferheart

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 8:58 PM

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Or perhaps even a pathosadult

ivory plume Jun 15, 2025, 8:59 PM

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Welcome! Sadly I'll always be a pathoschild at heart.

proud wyvern Jun 15, 2025, 8:59 PM

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We all know you need a mod for children to grow up

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 8:59 PM

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Are there alternate versions of you called Logoschild and Ethoschild?

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 8:59 PM

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I'm pretty sure a ethostween showed up once

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 8:59 PM

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Ew...tweens

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-pathoschild
-ethoslab
-???

blissful panther Jun 15, 2025, 9:00 PM

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balmy valve Are there alternate versions of you called Logoschild and Ethoschild?

(@haughty charm mention... sort of...? SDVkrobusgiggle )

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:00 PM

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logosphile

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nope just logophile

haughty charm Jun 15, 2025, 9:00 PM

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lmao

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:00 PM

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😔

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Very well...I'll do it myself

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 9:01 PM

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Alright I'm at the airport I'll stop being annoying here

haughty charm Jun 15, 2025, 9:01 PM

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Safe flight, atra

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 9:01 PM

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||and go annoy thr knitters instead||

proud wyvern Jun 15, 2025, 9:01 PM

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Going anywhere nice?

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:01 PM

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shh you are not anoying that's the demons talking

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 9:01 PM

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Home. Home is nice

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:01 PM

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calm nebula ||and go annoy thr knitters instead||

go forth fellow fibercrafter!!!

proud wyvern Jun 15, 2025, 9:01 PM

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Home is good

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 9:05 PM

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Using /showFrame 28 for an npc, and I've made sure that spot 28 is the smoochy one. During the event, however, he keeps using sprite 0.

blissful panther Jun 15, 2025, 9:05 PM

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Okay, GitHub mod-building workflow streamlined a little bit more. Done for the night now!

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 9:06 PM

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/showFrame farmer 101/showFrame {{ModId}}_NPC 28

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:07 PM

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idle lantern Using /showFrame 28 for an npc, and I've made sure that spot 28 is the smoochy o...

27

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show frame 27

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the first frame is 0

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 9:08 PM

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thank you!

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:08 PM

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wait?

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nvm you have it right

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you need to put false

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after 28

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to let it know that it shouldn't flip the sprite :3

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 9:09 PM

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ok!

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:11 PM

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You need to do that with every showFrame btw

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 9:13 PM

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still isn't switching

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Man, what am I doing wrong?

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WAIT

ornate trellis Jun 15, 2025, 9:14 PM

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the false for showframe is optional

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 9:17 PM

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It's for sure in the 28th position. I copied the showFrame straight from the vanilla code, and checked the the modding wiki.

ornate trellis Jun 15, 2025, 9:17 PM

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btw if you want us to take a look its always best to post the whole event here

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 9:17 PM

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https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/deca59e058b54edbbe8c83c107066bd0

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Thank you, sorry

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I parred it down to the sticky bit, so there isn't a novel

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Everything else is working correctly - he just gives the farmer the cold shoulder immediately with that sprite 0

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there's a '/showFrame {{ModId}}_Rahiel 0' at the end that I have taken out. I thought that was the mistake, but it didn't change anything

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unless maybe I need to turn the game off and on again, and reload isn't enough

ornate trellis Jun 15, 2025, 9:20 PM

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hm

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farmer DOES need a false/true at the end for flip tho btw

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 9:23 PM

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I'll add it. They're behaving but maybe the missing true is affecting him

ornate trellis Jun 15, 2025, 9:23 PM

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well, sometimes soimething completely diff can affect another thing

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i dont see off the bat anything wrong with the rahiel command itself, hm

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 9:24 PM

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Maybe he's just shy

ornate trellis Jun 15, 2025, 9:25 PM

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thats really odd

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:25 PM

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I think you do need to save the files and then restart game

ornate trellis Jun 15, 2025, 9:26 PM

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oh wait, you DID do a patch reload, right

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after saving the edited json

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 9:26 PM

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yes. I also shut down the game, just in case

ornate trellis Jun 15, 2025, 9:26 PM

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hm

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:27 PM

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BY THE WAY i figured out...you CAN force a death

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in an event

ornate trellis Jun 15, 2025, 9:28 PM

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oh yeah you can do quite some vile stuff in events tbh

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or, well, mean

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:29 PM

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and i think it would be sooo so funny if, during Alta's 6-heart event, the player can tell her that she's right about herself, that she's a burden, etc.

And Alta, instead of taking the player's words to heart, remembers who she is
A larger , glowier version of her face descends from the clouds

She turns to the player.

"Careful how you speak to me...worm."

Draws her sword

And the next thing they see is Harvey

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 9:29 PM

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Poking around the Always Raining mod, they use '/showFrame Sterling 4/ . It can't be the {{ModId}}_Rahiel, could it?

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they don't use {{ModId}} at all, so I'm assuming not

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:29 PM

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No, I use {{ModId}} in mine and it works fine

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 9:29 PM

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WAIT

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I have two sprite sheets

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:29 PM

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Omg-

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 9:30 PM

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could it be pulling from the other one? wait no, the other one has a beard

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and that's not showing in the event

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:30 PM

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Check your smapi logs

ornate trellis Jun 15, 2025, 9:30 PM

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well

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you got the right sheet with everything saved then?

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 9:31 PM

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I'm a grade A moron

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:31 PM

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Ohh what happened?

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 9:32 PM

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I did the extra sprites on his original sprite sheet. You and Void caught it

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:32 PM

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🫡

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 9:32 PM

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I have him programmed to use his young sprite sheet right now

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I was getting so mad 😦

ornate trellis Jun 15, 2025, 9:32 PM

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beluga

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time to try the event again lol

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 9:35 PM

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HOORAY

dusky marsh Jun 15, 2025, 9:35 PM

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Any ideas for the name of a mod that restores your stamina if your tool did nothing (like hitting the air with a pickaxe)
I tought of DontWasteStamina but people maybe can think it just makes stamina infinite

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:36 PM

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No[something]no loss

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Like no pain no gain

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I think dont waste stamina is a pretty good name

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 9:37 PM

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Only When It Counts / No Effort on Miss

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:37 PM

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YEs!

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 9:37 PM

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yeah!

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:37 PM

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ONLY WHEN IT COUNTS!

dusky marsh Jun 15, 2025, 9:37 PM

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SDVpufferwaaah its so good

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:37 PM

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Miss-me-not

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 9:37 PM

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i thought this mod already got released (by you?)

dusky marsh Jun 15, 2025, 9:38 PM

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No ?

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My only mod is automate tool swap

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 9:38 PM

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i may be halucinating YuniHappy

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ok i wasnt hallucinating https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/33313

Nexus Mods :: Stardew Valley

Prevent Energy Loss

Prevent yourself from losing energy when incorrectly using a tool, like trying to use your axe on a stone.

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but again remember 2 cakes

dusky marsh Jun 15, 2025, 9:40 PM

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oh

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I saw a request on github of a mod like this yesterday and assumed it didnt exist already

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:41 PM

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Dang

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Bro got uhhhh

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Hang on im trying to think of a good joke

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Uhhhhh

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bro got sheikah slate'd

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idk

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 9:42 PM

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Two cakes

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Publish it anyways

dusky marsh Jun 15, 2025, 9:42 PM

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lol

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:42 PM

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AW SWEET TWO CAES!

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caes

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cakes

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i'm caed up guys

ornate trellis Jun 15, 2025, 9:42 PM

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well, two cakes as they say and also the comments state that mod doesnt work in 1.6 so maybe youre in luck

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:48 PM

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Is there a smapi command to force a villager to come to the resort?

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 9:49 PM

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If it's their scheduled time, I think you can use hurryalong

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:49 PM

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but it's the resort

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aka random

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 9:49 PM

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oh

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I haven't finished unlocking the Island :\ I inevitably unlock the community center, get halfway through the volcano, see a youtube video of someone playing the first 100 days and go 'that could be meeee'

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:51 PM

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real

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I have a multiplayer vanilla farm with me and 2 other guys and the jokes are INCESSANT

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we're in Winter Year 2 and 30% of the way to perfection

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that 30% is because we specialized so hard in year 1 that we ended up with genuinely abhorrent skill spreads

pine elbow Jun 15, 2025, 9:53 PM

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need to learn more about coding

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 9:55 PM

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oh no D: I feel like such an ass. I tested the refusal script D:

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:56 PM

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shh it's okay...

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if it helps, i've had to test the script where you tell Alta that she's weak

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and have her raise her chin and look you in the eye and say "You think I'm weak. No need to deny it. I've heard it countless times from countless mouths. All from people who have nothing to show for their own supposed strength."

pine elbow Jun 15, 2025, 9:58 PM

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how do you test your mods compatability

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:58 PM

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No clue

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 9:58 PM

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depends on what kinda mod you make

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 9:58 PM

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You publish it and let users yell

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Or you ask us

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:58 PM

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My mod isn't compatible with anything, it's meant to be in an otherwise vanilla playthrough

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 9:58 PM

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calm nebula You publish it and let users yell

I've been letting people just tell me when other mods and my MarniexMarlon one don't play nicely

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:58 PM

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Even a retexture of the town, like making the bridges neater, will undermine the story

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 9:59 PM

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MAybe it's selfish, but I've made the mods for me. I hope others enjoy it, but there are so many, and people's interests vary, that the only person I 100% can make happy it little old me. So, I fix issues as other people bring them up.

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 9:59 PM

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idle lantern I've been letting people just tell me when other mods and my MarniexMarlon one d...

OMG I LOVE THEM!!! SlimeRancher is my ship name for them

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 9:59 PM

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:D!

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That's a way better mod name than Marnie x Marlon lol. Damn it

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 10:00 PM

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yes but its not as good SEO

pine elbow Jun 15, 2025, 10:00 PM

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kinda my first time doing this

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 10:00 PM

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can you tell us more detail about what you are making/have made Bolb

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 10:00 PM

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If a moron like me can do it, you can too! SDVpuffersalute

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 10:01 PM

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we'll give better advice then

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 10:11 PM

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I didn't get as many done as I wanted to, today - but I think I need a TV/veg-out break

pine elbow Jun 15, 2025, 10:12 PM

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how do i make art for stardew sprites

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 10:13 PM

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If you're willing to pay - Asperite on Steam is a worthwhile $20. I started by taking the vanilla sprites and recoloring them for practice

pine elbow Jun 15, 2025, 10:13 PM

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yeah but im crap at drawing esepcially drawing something in a style

idle lantern Jun 15, 2025, 10:13 PM

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I used Alex's sprite as a base for mine

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I turned him into a blank doll, by tracing over him using layers

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#making-mods-art would have better advice I think

pine elbow Jun 15, 2025, 10:20 PM

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im just so new

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 10:22 PM

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So was I, so were all of us! don't worry abou tit!

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about. it.

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Um I have a template if you want?

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These are super basic templates from MissCoriel's NPC Creator.

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The NPC creator is what I started with, but I wouldn't recommend it because it's kinda...outdated

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As for the sprites, I made mine by tracing over villagers (Leah and Maru for Alta, Sebastian and Sam for Zero)

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And portraits the same way

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lofty osprey Jun 15, 2025, 10:38 PM

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Worth mentioning is that for the source code for aseprite, you can access it and compile by yourself, which even their faq says fine

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Always best to support them when possible though SDVemoteheart

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 10:40 PM

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idle lantern I didn't get as many done as I wanted to, today - but I think I need a TV/veg-ou...

daang

lofty osprey Jun 15, 2025, 10:41 PM

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Meanwhile I walk in and want to ask - is it possible to have additional dialogue within your mod that would trigger only if it detects another mod?
For example let’s say I want to write a dialogue or two of my custom NPC saying something about someone from SVE, but only if that one is installed (and isn’t required either)

brittle pasture Jun 15, 2025, 10:42 PM

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sure, make an optional patch with When HasMod
https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/tokens.md#HasMod

pine elbow Jun 15, 2025, 10:45 PM

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i just dont know where to start with making code to be honest im so lost on where to learn

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 10:46 PM

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Well. What do you want to do

pine elbow Jun 15, 2025, 10:46 PM

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make a mod with avocados and gucamole

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 10:49 PM

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I.

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I love you immediately

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Here's what you need:
-A fruit tree
-An edible avocado
-A recipe for guac
-The guac
And
-a way to get the recipe!

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And all data associated with those things, ofc, but it's a really good thing to start off with!

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My own question:

uncut viper Jun 15, 2025, 10:51 PM

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!startmodding

ocean sailBOT Jun 15, 2025, 10:51 PM

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Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 10:51 PM

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Anybody know how to make custom cutscenes, like the ones from the wizard or from Caroline's green tea scene?

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 10:51 PM

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avocados exist in some other crop mdos

uncut viper Jun 15, 2025, 10:51 PM

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(ignore the second bullet point. you want content packs and content patcher)

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 10:52 PM

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I wanna make one of Alta dancing

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 10:52 PM

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you can just make guac by itself first Bolb

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 10:52 PM

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balmy valve Anybody know how to make custom cutscenes, like the ones from the wizard or from...

those r in C# i think, but you can probably do something with TAS

lofty osprey Jun 15, 2025, 10:52 PM

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brittle pasture sure, make an optional patch with When HasMod <https://github.com/Pathoschild/St...

Aye aye, thank you 🙏 wanted to make sure since I’m just as new to modding as a child (and another person here in chat wheeze)

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 10:53 PM

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lucid iron those r in C# i think, but you can probably do something with TAS

nooooooooooo

urban patrol Jun 15, 2025, 10:53 PM

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i forget who it is, but whoever is making the red-haired pirate mod draws map tiles that are animations i believe

lofty osprey Jun 15, 2025, 10:53 PM

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You could make a CG instead of moving stuff though

urban patrol Jun 15, 2025, 10:53 PM

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like the huge turtle coming out of the ocean was map tiles

lofty osprey Jun 15, 2025, 10:53 PM

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Not as flashy but still works

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 10:53 PM

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No, I want it to be like inside an event

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or is that for the other person

urban patrol Jun 15, 2025, 10:54 PM

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yes, they then use switch map or something i believe

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no it was for you fallspice

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i'm trying to scroll the user list and remember who it is

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 10:57 PM

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yea temporaryAnimatedSprites is a events thing

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thats what i suggested for you to do instead

urban patrol Jun 15, 2025, 10:57 PM

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TAS are so useful

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 11:00 PM

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idk what that means

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It's in the past, so

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I can do without it

pine elbow Jun 15, 2025, 11:01 PM

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ill take things one at a time

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 11:03 PM

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urban patrol TAS are so useful

Yk what I think I can do something like that. Like in that one heart ev with alex

merry rampart Jun 15, 2025, 11:03 PM

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wish there was an easier way to edit parts of an event instead of having to copy/paste the entire thing and edit it that way

pine elbow Jun 15, 2025, 11:03 PM

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how did you guys learn about modding and coding

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 11:03 PM

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Um I kinda just bumbled around until something happened

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 11:04 PM

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pine elbow how did you guys learn about modding and coding

This is less "coding" and more "telling this file where to find things"

uncut viper Jun 15, 2025, 11:04 PM

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merry rampart wish there was an easier way to edit parts of an event instead of having to copy...

you can edit specific sections of a slash delimited string

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but you have to do it either by index or by using the entire section as your search parameter in text operations
both of which are not good for compatibility

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 11:05 PM

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Wdym learned about modding

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 11:05 PM

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new modder trying to make a guac mod

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how was ur flight

merry rampart Jun 15, 2025, 11:06 PM

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all i want to do is change the character positions in an event due to a map edit. it's proving to be a real pain

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it also doesnt help that the original version of this mod doesn't have i18n, so sadly CMCT won't help here

uncut viper Jun 15, 2025, 11:07 PM

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I thought you could just add their new data to setup-AdditionalCharacters or whatever and it'd overwrite the first data but don't quote me on that

pine elbow Jun 15, 2025, 11:07 PM

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anyways ill try modding some more tomorrow

languid matrix Jun 15, 2025, 11:16 PM

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Some of the more recent fish I added don't appear in the fishing collection (both variants of Footballfish and Lungfish) but I fished up a footballfish anyways during the night market.

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How do I get them to show up in the collection?

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 11:17 PM

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Did you add the modifier in the item data

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fishingCollection true?

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brisk wedge Jun 15, 2025, 11:17 PM

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when i build using dotnet build everything is fine but when i use dotnet build -c Release, my mod doesn't seem to do anything? My Entry function runs, but my patches don't, I'm using HarmonyPatches as annotations, are my patches getting optimized out or something?

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 11:17 PM

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ExcludeFromFishingCollection should be false

languid matrix Jun 15, 2025, 11:17 PM

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balmy valve fishingCollection true?

None of the fish in my mod have it set to true.

balmy valve Jun 15, 2025, 11:17 PM

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oh dear. Then I don't know

languid matrix Jun 15, 2025, 11:18 PM

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It appears that I can't sell the footballfish either.

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Am I allowed to use gendered language in my mod?

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I also set ExcludeFromRandomSale to false.

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 11:25 PM

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brisk wedge when i build using dotnet build everything is fine but when i use dotnet build -...

Try harmony.PatchAll(typeof(ModEntry).Assembly)

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The zero args uses stackframe which can be unreliable

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In release mode

languid matrix Jun 15, 2025, 11:30 PM

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I just realized I accidentally forgot the line "Type": "Fish" in the entries for both Footballfish and the Lungfish.

brisk wedge Jun 15, 2025, 11:30 PM

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calm nebula The zero args uses stackframe which can be unreliable

does tha api also have this problem? I switched to the api and some things got applied but some didn't

lucid iron Jun 15, 2025, 11:31 PM

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if you use the Patch you explicitly pass in MethodInfo

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it doesn't have this problem afaik

languid matrix Jun 15, 2025, 11:32 PM

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Now how do I get the Ammocoete to show up in the fishing tab while simultaneously allowing it to be used as bait?

brisk wedge Jun 15, 2025, 11:40 PM

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oh nvm it crashed and i didn't notice oops

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it was complaining that it was ambiguous, but it didn't complain about that when i was using annotations, is that weird?

brittle pasture Jun 15, 2025, 11:40 PM

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languid matrix Now how do I get the Ammocoete to show up in the fishing tab while simultaneousl...

you can try Category -21 while leaving the Type Fish. I can't guarantee that won't have unpleasant side effects however

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(it probably will tbh)

brisk wedge Jun 15, 2025, 11:41 PM

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also curious about whether people generally prefer the api or annotations

uncut viper Jun 15, 2025, 11:42 PM

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i always use annotations unless i need to conditionally patch or reuse the same patch multiple times

ivory plume Jun 15, 2025, 11:43 PM

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(Annotations are more fragile because SMAPI can't rewrite them. For example, if you patch a method that gets renamed, your mod will break if it uses annotations, even if SMAPI has a rewriter to fix mods for the change.)

calm nebula Jun 15, 2025, 11:45 PM

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Eh, smapi doesn't rewrite the other way either

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I think I tried to benchmark the delegate.methodinfo way

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That one smapi might rewrite

pine elbow Jun 16, 2025, 12:43 AM

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thank you everybody for being so welcoming to me

languid matrix Jun 16, 2025, 12:45 AM

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How exactly do I make a fish more common in the night market? Caught 7 Spookfish but only 3 footballfish (I added the footballfish myself).

brittle pasture Jun 16, 2025, 12:48 AM

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lower your fish's precendence

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values with lower precedence gets checked first

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check what the spookfish entry's precedence value is and modify your own

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this is in Data/Locations, to clarify

languid matrix Jun 16, 2025, 12:52 AM

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brittle pasture lower your fish's precendence

is that the "Chance" field?

brittle pasture Jun 16, 2025, 12:52 AM

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no, that's the chance for entry to trigger
precedence controls the order the game checks each entry

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obviously increasing the chance also increases your catch rate

languid matrix Jun 16, 2025, 12:53 AM

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I just discovered that the precedence field is a negative number.

brittle pasture Jun 16, 2025, 12:54 AM

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it can be positive or negative

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https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Location_data

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The relevant part

dusky marsh Jun 16, 2025, 1:13 AM

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How to post a mod in #mod-showcase ?

brittle pasture Jun 16, 2025, 1:15 AM

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you need level 25 + the mod author role

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otherwise you need someone else to do it for you

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I assume the latest mod on Nexus is yours?

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if you give me what you want in the body I can do it!

dusky marsh Jun 16, 2025, 1:17 AM

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Yeah, just looked and im lvl 4 still SDVpufferwaaah

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Ok, will post here thank you

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Only When It Counts
Stop wasting stamina! This mod ensures stamina is only used when your tools actually work.
Currently it works with all vanilla interactions and most from Item Extensions.
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/34886

Nexus Mods :: Stardew Valley

Only When It Counts - No More Wasted Stamina

Stop wasting stamina! This mod ensures stamina is only used when your tools actually work.

idle lantern Jun 16, 2025, 1:29 AM

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Is there a way to make a sprite show on the 'AlwaysFront' layer during an event?

urban patrol Jun 16, 2025, 1:30 AM

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with a TAS you can set how in front it is

idle lantern Jun 16, 2025, 1:31 AM

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sorry. What's a TAS?

urban patrol Jun 16, 2025, 1:31 AM

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temporaryAnimatedSprite

idle lantern Jun 16, 2025, 1:31 AM

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Ah! ty!

urban patrol Jun 16, 2025, 1:31 AM

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just set the texture to be wherever you've loaded the spritesheet to

idle lantern Jun 16, 2025, 1:31 AM

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I'll go look at those. I was using show frame

urban patrol Jun 16, 2025, 1:32 AM

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i don't think i've used showFrame before, i mainly use animate

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but that will be on the same layer like showFrame

idle lantern Jun 16, 2025, 1:42 AM

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I may just give up on having him sit on the bed

urban patrol Jun 16, 2025, 1:43 AM

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what are you having trouble with/what have you written?

idle lantern Jun 16, 2025, 1:43 AM

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When I spawn him on one of the bed tiles, he spawns behind the blankets - just because of layer issues. He's demanding that the farmer fetch him things

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I think I'll just put floor pillows down instead

urban patrol Jun 16, 2025, 1:44 AM

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and you tried using TAS? you need to set the layer integer to something high, probably like 7

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i think it's layer, it might be called something else

idle lantern Jun 16, 2025, 1:44 AM

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No, not yet. I found the code, but got intimidated by it and decided I was going to try and avoid it lol 😦

urban patrol Jun 16, 2025, 1:45 AM

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i can answer questions about each argument if you have any <3 it's a super useful command, but if you'd rather not deal that's fine too

idle lantern Jun 16, 2025, 1:46 AM

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animate <actor> <flip> <loop> <frame duration> <frames...>

animate {{ModId}}_Rahiel false true 300 23 24
?

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er 3000*

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oh wait that's not temp actor

urban patrol Jun 16, 2025, 1:47 AM

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yep! (although that's animate, not temporaryAnimatedSprite)

nocturne pumice Jun 16, 2025, 1:47 AM

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is there a way to know the location of the ladder when it is used to warp/ last player position before ladder is used

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 1:48 AM

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nocturne pumice is there a way to know the location of the ladder when it is used to warp/ last ...

in what context? C#? CP? (and what do you need it for?)

nocturne pumice Jun 16, 2025, 1:48 AM

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C#

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wanted to log where ladders are used by player

idle lantern Jun 16, 2025, 1:49 AM

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temporaryAnimatedSprite assets/sprites/{{Mod}}_Rahiel.png 3000 23 24 100 9 7 ?

nocturne pumice Jun 16, 2025, 1:49 AM

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@tiny zealot making a mod to log player actions in game all round (dunno if such a mod exists but would really help me)

urban patrol Jun 16, 2025, 1:51 AM

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idle lantern temporaryAnimatedSprite assets/sprites/{{Mod}}_Rahiel.png 3000 23 24 100 9 7 ?

the texture needs to be wherever you loaded his sprites to--i assume you put like Characters/Rahiel or something

idle lantern Jun 16, 2025, 1:51 AM

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Ah yes

urban patrol Jun 16, 2025, 1:51 AM

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textures need to be loaded before they can be used, you can't just put a png in there

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(things i learned the hard way)

uncut viper Jun 16, 2025, 1:51 AM

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nocturne pumice is there a way to know the location of the ladder when it is used to warp/ last ...

the SMAPI warped event has the players previous position, which won't exactly match the ladder, but it might be close enough

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if you just want a general good enough log

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 1:52 AM

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oh, does it have position? i thought it was just the GameLocation

nocturne pumice Jun 16, 2025, 1:52 AM

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yeah even i thought so

uncut viper Jun 16, 2025, 1:52 AM

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I thought it did

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I might be misremembering

idle lantern Jun 16, 2025, 1:53 AM

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urban patrol the texture needs to be wherever you loaded his sprites to--i assume you put lik...

/temporaryAnimatedSprite Characters/{{ModId}}_Rahiel 0 0 16 32 3000 4 999999 10 15 false false 15 0 4 0 0 hold_last_frame

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 1:53 AM

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uncut viper I thought it did

if it does then use that. otherwise there's no Warping event so you might have to harmony patch something or do something else unsavory

urban patrol Jun 16, 2025, 1:53 AM

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idle lantern /temporaryAnimatedSprite Characters/{{ModId}}_Rahiel 0 0 16 32 3000 4 999999 10 ...

make sure the texture is separated by escaped slashes: \\

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 1:53 AM

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(using UpdateTicked for this is an example of something unsavory, in my book)

urban patrol Jun 16, 2025, 1:54 AM

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ugh \\

brave fable Jun 16, 2025, 1:54 AM

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unsavoury can still be sweet 😌

uncut viper Jun 16, 2025, 1:54 AM

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can also just detect when a player clicks in a Mine and check if the click is on a ladder

idle lantern Jun 16, 2025, 1:55 AM

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I don't see where to adjust the layer for this

brave fable Jun 16, 2025, 1:55 AM

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if you specifically want to check for ladder usages you'll likely need to do that anyway

urban patrol Jun 16, 2025, 1:55 AM

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idle lantern /temporaryAnimatedSprite Characters/{{ModId}}_Rahiel 0 0 16 32 3000 4 999999 10 ...

also i think this says you want it to be 4x bigger than normal? it should be 1

idle lantern Jun 16, 2025, 1:55 AM

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AH wait

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I see it. It says tile Y position. I assumed depth would be Z

nocturne pumice Jun 16, 2025, 1:55 AM

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uncut viper can also just detect when a player clicks in a Mine and check if the click is on...

i see, that helps

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@uncut viper I see the event captures oldLocation but not its coordinates

idle lantern Jun 16, 2025, 1:56 AM

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I really appreciate all of your help!

urban patrol Jun 16, 2025, 1:56 AM

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no problem! it's difficult for me to tell how it will look in game but if you have issues with it lmk

idle lantern Jun 16, 2025, 1:56 AM

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I'll send a screenshot. I think I'm going to test it once tonight and then retire for the night, like an old

nocturne pumice Jun 16, 2025, 1:57 AM

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is there a way to extract coordinates from the oldLocation @uncut viper

brave fable Jun 16, 2025, 1:57 AM

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you may actually need to use 4 instead of 1 there to match the usual character scale

idle lantern Jun 16, 2025, 1:57 AM

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a few too many 2 or 3 am nights, working on this, recently

urban patrol Jun 16, 2025, 1:57 AM

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brave fable you may actually need to use 4 instead of 1 there to match the usual character s...

the wiki says in addition to the normal zoom, so i think 1 should be fine

brave fable Jun 16, 2025, 1:57 AM

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i'm not sure if the event script version TAS command accounts for usual zoom

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ah

idle lantern Jun 16, 2025, 1:58 AM

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I have a 4 in there right now. We'll see if he's a monster

urban patrol Jun 16, 2025, 1:58 AM

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godzilla has entered the chat

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what's the proper way to write this as a negative?

    "HasSeenEvent": "{{ModId}}_Seance2",
    }```

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i'm trying to conditionally patch my custom map when my NPC shows up, to go from old boxes and spiderwebs to a cute room

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actually technically i guess i'm trying to conditionally patch it when she HASN'T shown up

ivory plume Jun 16, 2025, 2:01 AM

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urban patrol what's the proper way to write this as a negative? ```"When": { "HasSeenEven...

Like this:

"When": {
    "HasSeenEvent |contains={{ModId}}_Seance2": false
}

urban patrol Jun 16, 2025, 2:01 AM

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thank you so much!

idle lantern Jun 16, 2025, 2:06 AM

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there's been a happening

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it's like a fever nightmare

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hooray! And night!

urban patrol Jun 16, 2025, 2:09 AM

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good night!

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back with another syntax question: SMAPI is telling me my patch isn't applying because it can't parse -0.078 == 0 as a math expression and that i'm missing an operand before =.

{{Query: {{DailyLuck}} == 0}}

how do i write "when daily luck is neutral" as a query

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this is the full line "Condition": "ITEM_ID Input {{ModId}}_Magic8Ball, {{Query: {{DailyLuck}} == 0}}",

vernal crest Jun 16, 2025, 2:20 AM

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idle lantern hooray! And night!

He's wrapped up like a little baby! SDVpuffersquee

uncut viper Jun 16, 2025, 2:22 AM

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urban patrol back with another syntax question: SMAPI is telling me my patch isn't applying b...

just use a single =

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 2:22 AM

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nic i am guessing CP expects a single =

urban patrol Jun 16, 2025, 2:22 AM

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ah ok

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do spaces matter? should it be {{DailyLuck}}=0 ?

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 2:23 AM

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i doubt spaces matter

vernal crest Jun 16, 2025, 2:24 AM

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Lots of spaces in the CP docs examples

floral stratus Jun 16, 2025, 2:28 AM

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I have a stupid question for the modders. How do I reference the player's farm name in dialogue? I know the farmer's name is @ but I don't know what goes in for the farm name.

brittle pasture Jun 16, 2025, 2:29 AM

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floral stratus I have a stupid question for the modders. How do I reference the player's farm n...

you can use CP's {{FarmName}} token

urban patrol Jun 16, 2025, 2:29 AM

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%farm

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oop

lucid iron Jun 16, 2025, 2:30 AM

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[FarmName]

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tokenized text

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lotta ways basically 3sSmolMiku

brittle pasture Jun 16, 2025, 2:31 AM

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(I admit I usually use {{FarmName}} because Iunno if the context I"m using supports %farm or the token)

lucid iron Jun 16, 2025, 2:31 AM

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if its daily dialogue i think all 3 options are fine right NotteThink

ivory plume Jun 16, 2025, 2:31 AM

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calm nebula Oh Pathos while you're here, any chance of gsq for "what player has equipped"

Good news: the base game will need it to de-hardcode monster drops, so that'll be in 1.6.16.

lucid iron Jun 16, 2025, 2:31 AM

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yay DokkanStare

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~~now give monsters a state machine like pets~~

brittle pasture Jun 16, 2025, 2:32 AM

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even slime color drops? that's be great

lucid iron Jun 16, 2025, 2:32 AM

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what about the various semi hardcoded drops

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like dangerous

ivory plume Jun 16, 2025, 2:34 AM

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I'm working on the monster drop de-hardcoding now. It's a bit complex and scattered, so we'll see what can feasibly be de-hardcoded. There might be some exceptions which will still be hardcoded.

lucid iron Jun 16, 2025, 2:34 AM

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off top of head there is

non dangerous vs dangerous
trinkets
the diamond and prismatic shard change for bottom of mine
prismatic jelly and ectoplasm

ivory plume Jun 16, 2025, 2:35 AM

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(There's quite a few more.)

lucid iron Jun 16, 2025, 2:35 AM

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my head can only fit like 2 slimes

brittle pasture Jun 16, 2025, 2:36 AM

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I know pure white slimes drop diamonds from that one slime ranching video

floral stratus Jun 16, 2025, 2:36 AM

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Still testing, but thank you for your replies!

brittle pasture Jun 16, 2025, 2:37 AM

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the amount of effort required to get white slimes is amazing lmao, they have to turn their farm into a giant segmented slime ranch

lucid iron Jun 16, 2025, 2:37 AM

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say if i was gonna make a event command

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should i just make it trigger action

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im not sure what i get out of using event command

lucid mulch Jun 16, 2025, 2:38 AM

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the prismatic jelly is less the drop and more the spawn of the monster in the first place iirc

uncut viper Jun 16, 2025, 2:40 AM

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lucid iron im not sure what i get out of using event command

deciding whether or not the commands advance

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also easier access to event context ofc

floral stratus Jun 16, 2025, 2:42 AM

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Okay, so of the 3 [FarmName] was the only one that worked for me. You guys are awesome

uncut viper Jun 16, 2025, 2:42 AM

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the token form of FarmName will always work assuming the save is loaded

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the one selph suggested

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if it didnt work then something else went wrong

lucid iron Jun 16, 2025, 2:44 AM

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maybe if u were doing a Load?

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so no tokens work

lucid mulch Jun 16, 2025, 2:44 AM

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or had it in i18n

lucid iron Jun 16, 2025, 2:44 AM

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uncut viper deciding whether or not the commands advance

i was hoping to make a command that is like "hide trinket for duration of this event"

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i can just make 2 trigger actions but i wonder if event command has stuff to automatically push a matching command to end

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 2:46 AM

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if memory serves, you can add stuff to endBehaviors or whatever it's called if you're in the event code

lucid iron Jun 16, 2025, 2:46 AM

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Bolb that is good thing about it being event command then

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tho i feel like i should also just make the 2 trigger actions anyways

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 2:46 AM

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i remember it being finicky but it's been a while

uncut viper Jun 16, 2025, 2:49 AM

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if the behaviour is highly event specific i would prefer an event command myself

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 2:49 AM

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i have at least two tractions that i call from event commands (they behave differently if an event is running)

lucid mulch Jun 16, 2025, 2:49 AM

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there is the skip actions, but don't think there is a built in mechanism to run stuff when event gracefully ends

lucid iron Jun 16, 2025, 2:49 AM

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its not that specific

uncut viper Jun 16, 2025, 2:49 AM

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i dont think there is either, i think your only options are polling for the event being done or harmony patching endBehaviours()

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"hide trinket for this event" seems very event specific to me

lucid iron Jun 16, 2025, 2:49 AM

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basically i already have a bool controlling whether trinket works rn

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the trigger action will set it

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besides events it can also just be used like

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doh ur companion ran away cus this place scary

pine elbow Jun 16, 2025, 2:51 AM

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hi yall

lucid iron Jun 16, 2025, 2:59 AM

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@ivory plume is giving wildtrees a DisplayName in scope

humble oxide Jun 16, 2025, 3:02 AM

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As per conversation yesterday, regarding the difficulty of making a farmhand NPC mod... why has no one made a general pathfinding resource mod that other mods could utilise?
Is that a possible?

uncut viper Jun 16, 2025, 3:04 AM

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no demand for it. id say 99% of mods probably do not ever care about handling pathfinding themselves whatsoever. what exists already just works for most of the purposes that one would need pathfinding for

ivory plume Jun 16, 2025, 3:04 AM

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lucid iron <@226803198218731520> is giving wildtrees a DisplayName in scope

Probably not unfortunately, since it's not something the base game would use.

lucid iron Jun 16, 2025, 3:06 AM

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humble oxide As per conversation yesterday, regarding the difficulty of making a farmhand NPC...

i think it's really hard for this to exist because if you aren't just using and living with the game's pathfindcontroller, you probably have Opinions about how it ought to work

pine elbow Jun 16, 2025, 3:18 AM

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im making a taco mod

calm nebula Jun 16, 2025, 3:24 AM

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ivory plume Good news: the base game will need it to de-hardcode monster drops, so that'll b...

Yayyyyyy

lucid mulch Jun 16, 2025, 3:31 AM

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lucid iron <@226803198218731520> is giving wildtrees a DisplayName in scope

also runs into needing the translation team to populate

urban patrol Jun 16, 2025, 4:44 AM

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so i'm trying to implement this, but i don't think the buff is being applied. no buffs icons show up when i put the ring on, and no effects that i can tell take place. here's my Buffs.json: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/836b22b953284370b099a8458332503d

and here's my log with patch summary: https://smapi.io/log/9fad36cf53a149da98373f3e6f63fb1d

ocean sailBOT Jun 16, 2025, 4:44 AM

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Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, with 16 C# mods and 2 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

calm nebula Jun 16, 2025, 4:46 AM

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(O){{ModId}}_CrystalRing

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In the buffs.json

lucid mulch Jun 16, 2025, 4:46 AM

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the entry key for WearableData needs to be explicitly qualified (L13)

urban patrol Jun 16, 2025, 4:46 AM

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qualified item IDs will be the death of me. thank you guys for spotting that

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it's working now! a health regen ring <3

lucid mulch Jun 16, 2025, 4:47 AM

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easier to remember the exceptions that can't be qualified vs other way around, and so always use qualified

urban patrol Jun 16, 2025, 4:48 AM

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that's smart

brisk wedge Jun 16, 2025, 5:12 AM

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is there a debug command that lists all items matching a specific context tag?

clear bough Jun 16, 2025, 5:24 AM

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Does anyone know of a tutorial to update portrait mods for 1.6? I can't link the ones I had in mind because of the website they're on.

vernal crest Jun 16, 2025, 5:29 AM

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I don't think you should need to do anything to update a portrait mod for 1.6. What part is not working?

drowsy pewter Jun 16, 2025, 5:35 AM

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it depends what the original mod is written in (or not) and what is wrong, 1.6 added winter outfits but there may also be extra expressions that were added since that mod was made, etc

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whether the mod is cp or a file replacer is important

merry rampart Jun 16, 2025, 5:35 AM

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I'm trying to make my mod overwrite the schedule of another, but no matter what I do, I keep getting this error: https://smapi.io/log/4de9f1df259f4ba38523106ed5ed5a68

This is my code for the schedule include:

      "Action": "Include",
      "Priority": "Late + 99",
      "FromFile": "data/Schedule.json"
    },```

I don't understand why this isn't working

ocean sailBOT Jun 16, 2025, 5:35 AM

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Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 17 C# mods and 7 content packs.

drowsy pewter Jun 16, 2025, 5:37 AM

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merry rampart I'm trying to make my mod overwrite the schedule of another, but no matter what ...

the code for the include wont help because we need to see whats in data/schedule.json, however the error message is clear, you cannot use Load to Load a file that the other mod already loaded unless both mods have a specific prioritu setting. just change yours to EditData and rewrite the entry a bit

lucid mulch Jun 16, 2025, 5:37 AM

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include doesn't participate in the asset pipeline so it has no concept of priority

merry rampart Jun 16, 2025, 5:38 AM

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it is edit data...

so what I'd need to do is make a has mod condition instead...

vernal crest Jun 16, 2025, 5:40 AM

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You've got a Load somewhere, because you can't get that error with just an EditData.

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You're not loading a blank or something?

merry rampart Jun 16, 2025, 5:40 AM

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could it be from the blank.json?

vernal crest Jun 16, 2025, 5:40 AM

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Yes, you should not be loading a blank for an existing schedule.

merry rampart Jun 16, 2025, 5:40 AM

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alright

latent mauve Jun 16, 2025, 5:41 AM

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Loading a blank JSON is typically reserved for files for your own new custom NPC or location.

merry rampart Jun 16, 2025, 5:42 AM

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gotcha

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i'm trying to make my wizard schedule edits romras compatible but it can be used without it installed. so having a has mod condition would be the best option here

vernal crest Jun 16, 2025, 5:42 AM

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(Or, sometimes, loading an event asset for a vanilla location that has no vanilla events in it, but in that case you want to use a non-exclusive, low priority load so you don't clash with other mods that might be trying to do the same thing.)

lucid mulch Jun 16, 2025, 5:44 AM

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blank json is a bad candidate for an exclusive priority load in general (though it is the default and only option pre-1.6)

merry rampart Jun 16, 2025, 5:44 AM

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with this the blank won't be loaded if RomRas is installed. I just loaded the game and no more conflicts

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though I should probably add in the ID for Looking for Love in there too just in case someone is using that

clear bough Jun 16, 2025, 5:51 AM

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drowsy pewter whether the mod is cp or a file replacer is important

Both are for the content patcher. I think it's the content and manifest.

drowsy pewter Jun 16, 2025, 5:54 AM

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clear bough Both are for the content patcher. I think it's the content and manifest.

well can you share what is wrong with the mod? what error are you getting?

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the manifest being old doesnt automatically mean its broken

clear bough Jun 16, 2025, 5:55 AM

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I need to load it up and install it to see what smapi says. I thought had that log saved but I can't find it.

stark ledge Jun 16, 2025, 5:57 AM

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Does anyone know if you can make an Alternative Textures pack for cribs? I couldn't find anything on it, just that none have really been made

drowsy pewter Jun 16, 2025, 6:00 AM

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i dont think you can

vernal crest Jun 16, 2025, 6:10 AM

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Nope you can't, they're part of the map.

stark ledge Jun 16, 2025, 6:14 AM

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vernal crest Nope you can't, they're part of the map.

Thank you very much, you have saved me

merry rampart Jun 16, 2025, 6:33 AM

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im trying to override a modded event. so far it's proving to be a huge pain in my ass. i can't get my event to trigger, and when i remove the original, mine triggers but doesn't work correctly.

all I want to do is change the position of the characters so it fits my new map. I was told this wasn't possible, that I had to edit the entire event. But... I just keep running into this issue that I don't know how to fix

vernal crest Jun 16, 2025, 6:39 AM

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When you're overwriting the original event instead of removing it, have you checked that it's appearing correctly in the json using a patch export?

merry rampart Jun 16, 2025, 6:44 AM

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i can never remember how to do that

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ok now my event is triggering. i can't explain why exactly but it works....

brave fable Jun 16, 2025, 7:20 AM

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merry rampart i can never remember how to do that

if you enter patch help into the SMAPI console it'll explain all the Content Patcher commands and how to use them SDVpufferthumbsup

merry rampart Jun 16, 2025, 7:21 AM

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alright, i'll do that

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i still got some more testing to do but for now i consider this mod working the way it should

urban lotus Jun 16, 2025, 10:52 AM

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Hi, I'm not sure if this is the right channel to ask, but I need help with something. I'm using Tiled to edit my SV farm. Everything's going well until I notice that I can't remove the ground note. It's not in events, it's not in textures, it doesn't even appear in the Tiled editor. How can I delete it, move it, or where is it?

gentle rose Jun 16, 2025, 10:53 AM

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iirc you can change its position using a map property or tile property

urban lotus Jun 16, 2025, 10:54 AM

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gentle rose iirc you can change its position using a map property or tile property

This is what it looks like in the Tiled editor, where am I supposed to click?

gentle rose Jun 16, 2025, 10:55 AM

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urban lotus This is what it looks like in the Tiled editor, where am I supposed to click?

did you make this from scratch yourself?

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you're missing all the object layers for some reason

urban lotus Jun 16, 2025, 10:56 AM

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gentle rose did you make this from scratch yourself?

I was doing the scientific method to find out if that note was inside the objects (it's not, it still appears in the game). No, it's the default "FARM" map that I'm modifying.

vernal crest Jun 16, 2025, 10:56 AM

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No, the pink ones are object layers but they're just on the Objects tab instead of the Layers tab which is why the tile layers aren't visible.

gentle rose Jun 16, 2025, 10:56 AM

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(ty aba! ig I've never seen this layout of tiled before)

vernal crest Jun 16, 2025, 10:57 AM

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If you go up to Maps and then Map Properties it will open the map properties box

gentle rose Jun 16, 2025, 10:57 AM

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I half remembered it being a tile prop but I'm not surprised I was wrong SDVpuffersquee

vernal crest Jun 16, 2025, 10:57 AM

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'Tis not a map property though.

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(I actually don't remember this at all. What is this ground note?)

gentle rose Jun 16, 2025, 10:58 AM

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(I think it's the shrine note)

urban lotus Jun 16, 2025, 10:59 AM

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This is what opens when I click on properties, the note is the grandfather's note that is on the altar of your farm (I removed the altar)

vernal crest Jun 16, 2025, 10:59 AM

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Hm, there's no tile object property for a shrine note but there is a an Action Message "Farm.1" one so maybe the note spawns relative to that somehow?

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Have you put the shrine and the tile object property for it somewhere else on your farm?

urban lotus Jun 16, 2025, 11:01 AM

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vernal crest Have you put the shrine and the tile object property for it somewhere else on yo...

Yes, I moved everything but nothing happened, I made sure to move the events too, but the note still appears on the same side.

vernal crest Jun 16, 2025, 11:01 AM

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There is a map property GrandpaShrineLocation [<int x> <int y>] so maybe that's what custom farms have to use.

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I've not gotten far enough into making my own farm map to actually do any of this "functionality" stuff yet lol

gentle rose Jun 16, 2025, 11:01 AM

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(nvm no it isn't lmao that's the grandpa's farm text. how did I do this last time?)

vernal crest Jun 16, 2025, 11:02 AM

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Time to download one of Kisaa's farms to check

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Looks like it's the map property after all

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Yup checked Frontier Farm too, it's also using the map property

urban lotus Jun 16, 2025, 11:05 AM

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Ok, I'll try to fix it and see if it works, thanks in advance

sand timber Jun 16, 2025, 11:07 AM

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Hi, I'm new to modding and working with Furniture Framework. Does Furniture Framework support extracting different Y-axis frames from a single image to create animated furniture?

woeful lintel Jun 16, 2025, 11:13 AM

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yup

woeful lintel Jun 16, 2025, 11:13 AM

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sand timber Hi, I'm new to modding and working with Furniture Framework. Does Furniture Fra...

check this out: https://github.com/Leroymilo/FurnitureFramework/blob/main/doc/Furniture.md#animation

sand timber Jun 16, 2025, 11:15 AM

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Thanks a lot! I’ll dig into the docs—really cool that FF supports this directly. 🙌

woeful lintel Jun 16, 2025, 11:30 AM

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Is there a way to use IModContentHelper.Load<MyDataType>(string relativePath) with an empty MyDataType instance to populate?

urban lotus Jun 16, 2025, 11:53 AM

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GrandpaShrineLocation [<int x> <int y>] (IN WIKI)

como se esciribria de forma correcta? he provado todas las maneras y nada

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I don't know if I explained myself well, I mean I don't know how to place the codes, for example X 848 and Y320

vernal crest Jun 16, 2025, 12:17 PM

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urban lotus GrandpaShrineLocation [<int x> <int y>] (IN WIKI) como se esciribria de forma c...

Is your map actually more than 800 tiles wide? That's absolutely massive and will break your layering, I think. But regardless, just write it without the comma.

woeful lintel Jun 16, 2025, 12:19 PM

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this looks a lot like something that was multiplied by 16...

calm nebula Jun 16, 2025, 12:19 PM

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Without the comma. Divide by 16

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Also my gut instinct says this is a map property

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Not a tile property

blissful panther Jun 16, 2025, 12:20 PM

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...nobody saw that right now, I'm sure. SDVbouncerstare

vernal crest Jun 16, 2025, 12:20 PM

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Oh yes I didn't even notice that. Yes it's a map property.

gentle rose Jun 16, 2025, 1:02 PM

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blissful panther ...nobody saw that right now, I'm sure. <:SDVbouncerstare:982131814376296468>

puffer_eyes

balmy valve Jun 16, 2025, 2:46 PM

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how add event to custom location?

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this what i got so far

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 2:47 PM

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if it's a new location, you need to Load the events asset first/as well (to create it; EditData can only work on existing assets)

balmy valve Jun 16, 2025, 2:47 PM

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ok!

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so

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load data/events/modid_altahouse?

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 2:48 PM

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yes. use "FromFile": "blank.json", (modify path as needed for your assets structure)

balmy valve Jun 16, 2025, 2:48 PM

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i don't have a blank.json

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 2:49 PM

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where that blank.json just contains this text (literal):
{}
(create this file)

balmy valve Jun 16, 2025, 2:49 PM

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ok

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 2:50 PM

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then you'll leave your EditData as it is, to actually add the events to the (new) blank asset

balmy valve Jun 16, 2025, 2:50 PM

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Alright!! Thank you so much!

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Just to confirm

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This correct?

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 2:52 PM

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yep!

balmy valve Jun 16, 2025, 2:56 PM

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Yippee! thank you!

dusky marsh Jun 16, 2025, 3:33 PM

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My new mod is somehow linked to the other one, anyone knows how to fix this? the only thing i think might be the cause is they are both in the same folder (?)

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 3:36 PM

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you almost certainly have the wrong update key in one of the manifests

dusky marsh Jun 16, 2025, 3:37 PM

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omg my dumbass forgot about the updatekeys, i just copy pasted the manifest and changed the names/ids

ivory plume Jun 16, 2025, 3:40 PM

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(Nexus Mods has been transferred to a new owner, though the announcement doesn't mention who the new owner is.)

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 3:42 PM

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the new owner? me

blissful panther Jun 16, 2025, 3:42 PM

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(Oh, where was it said that it was sold? I assumed he just stepped down.)

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 3:43 PM

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"the ownership has changed hands" is a bit ambiguous for my taste

ivory plume Jun 16, 2025, 3:43 PM

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It seems to be someone outside the company based on the wording:

After months of meetings, face-to-face talks, and a whole lot of soul searching, I am thrilled to say that I truly believe I have found the exact right people for the task. So yes, the ownership of Nexus Mods has changed hands, [...]

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And probably a company, given "right people" rather than "right person".

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 3:44 PM

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^ true

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i just read the post too

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supposedly not much will change on our end

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 3:45 PM

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further down he does mention two specific people "who’ve come on board to lead this next chapter", fwiw

blissful panther Jun 16, 2025, 3:46 PM

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It actually does seem like it might just be two people as opposed to a company.

tawny ore Jun 16, 2025, 3:46 PM

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As long as it's not Overwolf...

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 3:47 PM

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GOD please not overwolf lmao

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 3:47 PM

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(naively not knowing who/what overwolf is) surely i won't regret looking this up! /lh

ivory plume Jun 16, 2025, 3:48 PM

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My main question would be whether the new owner is a private company (or people) vs a publicly traded company. If it's a public company, I would plan for the inevitable platform decay.

blissful panther Jun 16, 2025, 3:48 PM

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That's a very polite term for what's in my head.

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 3:49 PM

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bro even linked to the wikipedia article thats crazy

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(i did read it)

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tbh is anyone in here rich enough to buy nexus 🥸

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 3:49 PM

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blissful panther That's a very polite term for what's in my head.

(you should see what that link redirects to)

blissful panther Jun 16, 2025, 3:49 PM

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(That is the term in my head. SDVkrobusgiggle )

rigid oriole Jun 16, 2025, 3:49 PM

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I was like "oh pathos used a nice word for it" but then the Wikipedia article is just a redirect 💀

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 3:50 PM

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Oh my god i didnt even see the title of the article

rigid oriole Jun 16, 2025, 3:50 PM

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The platform HAS to get markdown before it decays

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 3:50 PM

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LMAOOOOO

rigid oriole Jun 16, 2025, 3:50 PM

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Trust

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Markdown will come first

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 3:50 PM

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rigid oriole The platform HAS to get markdown before it decays

no it doesn't 😔

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 3:50 PM

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pathos got jokes….

rigid oriole Jun 16, 2025, 3:50 PM

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Trust!!!!

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Look we dont have to panic yet

tawny ore Jun 16, 2025, 3:53 PM

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ivory plume My main question would be whether the new owner is a private company (or people)...

This would be a great opportunity for someone to launch an SDV-focused modding site. cough @iron ridge

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 3:53 PM

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Kind of quoting Dark on this one, but enshittification happened years ago.

dark0ne-retires-new-nexus-mods-site-owners-v0-3dec44d8ua7f1.png

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 3:54 PM

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rigid oriole The platform HAS to get markdown before it decays

Collections already has this, and they've been trying to roll it out to mod pages, so we're doomed. 💀

rigid oriole Jun 16, 2025, 3:55 PM

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daring skiff Kind of quoting Dark on this one, but enshittification happened years ago.

I mean, site has to pay for itself somehow and I doubt ads are enough

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 3:55 PM

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I trust Dark. He managed to keep the website independent for this long.

tawny ore Jun 16, 2025, 3:55 PM

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The problem with publicly owned companies is that the owners only job is to maximize shareholder value

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 3:55 PM

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The site definitely makes money. They have no outside investors or plans to.

rigid oriole Jun 16, 2025, 3:55 PM

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I think the current level of monetization is actually fine but I know ppl are worried it gets worse

tawny ore Jun 16, 2025, 3:55 PM

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So it's not about breaking even, or investing back into the site to improve, but more about how many decisions can we get away with before losing our base while squeezing every penny out of every user

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 3:55 PM

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Yeah, makes sense. Every gaming site is kind of shit right now.

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 3:55 PM

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tawny ore The problem with publicly owned companies is that the owners only job is to maxi...

all other concerns will, must be sacrificed on the altar of profit for shareholders

ivory plume Jun 16, 2025, 3:56 PM

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daring skiff Kind of quoting Dark on this one, but enshittification happened years ago.

The main thing about platform decay is that it's a continuous process, it's not a single change. The company makes one change to extract more money for its shareholders which makes the platform a little bit worse, but the next year shareholders want their next annual return. So they make one more little change which makes the platform a bit worse to get that extra return again, then again the next year, and again, etc. It's a somewhat inevitable aspect of any platform owned by a publicly traded company that needs to be more profitable every year, not only profitable.

rigid oriole Jun 16, 2025, 3:57 PM

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I think duolingo is a good example lol

tawny ore Jun 16, 2025, 3:57 PM

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Like every publicly traded company trying to jump on the AI bandwagon

ivory plume Jun 16, 2025, 3:57 PM

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After a certain point you can't extract more profit just by making the platform better, so you start monetizing in other ways (increasing fees, adding more service levels, adding more and more ads, selling data, etc).

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 3:57 PM

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Yeah, I hear you. I just think that quote is still relevant for people starting to doom.

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It's also really important for people to remember that Nexus isn't answerable to investors. They're self-financed.

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Which is kind of insane.

tawny ore Jun 16, 2025, 3:58 PM

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ivory plume After a certain point you can't extract more profit just by making the platform ...

Paygating services that were previously offered for free

ivory plume Jun 16, 2025, 3:58 PM

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Yes, that's my concern. I like Nexus partly because it's a private company; but is that still the case with the new owner(s)? It's a bit worrying that they don't want to mention who the new owners are.

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 3:59 PM

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Yeah. I think you actually have a lot of good reason to be concerned. You're, like, one of the top mod authors across the site.

blissful panther Jun 16, 2025, 3:59 PM

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The issue is that it'll be difficult to determine whether:

It is a company and not just two people.
The status of the company if we never actually learn the name.

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 4:00 PM

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Yeah. Trying to be generous on that front. It could just be, like, a serious communication issue and these guys will get a better introduction down the line. This is definitely the most stupid aspect of this announcement.

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 4:01 PM

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communication issues? on nexus? couldn't be /j

rigid oriole Jun 16, 2025, 4:01 PM

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My hope is maybe tmw the new leadership posts or something?

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 4:01 PM

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Real.

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Maybe the DP payouts will actually come out on time now that Dark isn't doing them himself.

rigid oriole Jun 16, 2025, 4:03 PM

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I bet automating yhat is not high on the priority list

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The site is halfway thru a refresh lol

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At any rate, all we can do is wait and see

drowsy minnow Jun 16, 2025, 4:06 PM

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im nowhere near doing this yet but i wanna get an idea of the headache imma be getting myself into- so i just wanted to ask how would i make recipes involving items from another mod

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 4:06 PM

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They do it manually to look for fraud or people abusing the system. But I agree that most of this should just be automated.

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During the Fallout 4 boom you had one guy making $7000 on their Collection because they were farming patches.

rigid oriole Jun 16, 2025, 4:08 PM

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drowsy minnow im nowhere near doing this yet but i wanna get an idea of the headache imma be g...

you can do it with just content patcher still. You'll just need to look up the id of the modded ingredients (via lookup anything or by reading the other mod's files)

drowsy minnow Jun 16, 2025, 4:08 PM

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rigid oriole you can do it with just content patcher still. You'll just need to look up the i...

ok damn easier than i thought- thank you SDVpufferheart

royal stump Jun 16, 2025, 4:11 PM

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I think you'd also need to either make the item mod a requirement of yours (in manifest.json) or use "When": {"HasMod": "that mod's ID"} when adding the cross-mod recipes

iron ridge Jun 16, 2025, 4:13 PM

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tawny ore This would be a great opportunity for someone to launch an SDV-focused modding s...

I don't have a good laptop with me I'll work on it when I'm home

iron ridge Jun 16, 2025, 4:15 PM

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blissful panther The issue is that it'll be difficult to determine whether: 1) It *is* a company...

Last I checked black tree gaming's owner was listed as the nexus founder and had public financial reports so shouldn't be hard to check in theory

rigid oriole Jun 16, 2025, 4:16 PM

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the usernames don't land any hits on other platforms that I can see

blissful panther Jun 16, 2025, 4:16 PM

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iron ridge Last I checked black tree gaming's owner was listed as the nexus founder and had...

That's fair! Also, mind if I toss a quick DM at you?

iron ridge Jun 16, 2025, 4:17 PM

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I don't mind!

iron ridge Jun 16, 2025, 4:17 PM

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rigid oriole the usernames don't land any hits on other platforms that I can see

Unsurprising

rigid oriole Jun 16, 2025, 4:18 PM

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either that or i'm simply bad at google

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the problem is, if it decays, then i'm going to actually have to write README.md files for all my mods

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instead of simply Not Doing That Because Lazy

lucid iron Jun 16, 2025, 4:23 PM

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Barley u should do that anyways SDVpufferpensive

rigid oriole Jun 16, 2025, 4:23 PM

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I only just started version-tagging my commits

ivory plume Jun 16, 2025, 4:23 PM

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(Found one answer in the comments, currently on page 16. No info on who they are though.)

rigid oriole Jun 16, 2025, 4:23 PM

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i didn't think I would make so many mods so I didn't do so many good software practices at the start 😭

lucid iron Jun 16, 2025, 4:24 PM

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I don't use tags actually

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Aside from the gh release tags

rigid oriole Jun 16, 2025, 4:24 PM

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I don't upload zips to the releases so i started tagging

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 4:25 PM

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ivory plume (Found one answer in the comments, currently on page 16. No info on who they are...

Brave of you to dig through that madness.

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I should update all of my files to have readmes too. I used to do this, but stopped.

lucid iron Jun 16, 2025, 4:26 PM

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But I used to have a mod's entire doc in readme and then turn it into the mod page bbcode

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 4:26 PM

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I think that's my problem, I work backwards.

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I do the bbcode first and then have to unfuck it.

calm nebula Jun 16, 2025, 4:27 PM

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daring skiff During the Fallout 4 boom you had one guy making $7000 on their Collection becau...

Jesus

lucid iron Jun 16, 2025, 4:27 PM

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Well u can use pillow userscript for md in browser

rigid oriole Jun 16, 2025, 4:27 PM

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daring skiff I think that's my problem, I work backwards.

i think i have the same problem

lucid iron Jun 16, 2025, 4:28 PM

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But i just started including a readme in my repo template so

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 4:29 PM

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When you don't really work with code your workflow is way different. Never had a template for anything.

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I just have random folders of sounds and textures.

iron ridge Jun 16, 2025, 4:40 PM

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lucid iron Well u can use pillow userscript for md in browser

omg a user!!

lucid iron Jun 16, 2025, 4:41 PM

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I'm sorry to disappoint but i am only a promoter

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I need all the vsc things blobcatgooglyblep

iron ridge Jun 16, 2025, 4:44 PM

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Oh

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https://github.com/AnotherPillow/nexus-markdown anyway pls use

GitHub

GitHub - AnotherPillow/nexus-markdown: A userscript to allow for us...

A userscript to allow for usage of markdown in Nexus Mods descriptions - AnotherPillow/nexus-markdown

balmy valve Jun 16, 2025, 4:46 PM

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Gamers, I have found a unique problem

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For all my events, for the music, I have been using "continue" because it flows smoothly

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However

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This causes some really funny tonal whiplash

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Because Alta will be talking about how she feels alone and stuck and the background music will be spring_03

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Imagine if that happened with the other events

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 4:48 PM

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did you know you can change the music during an event with playMusic

balmy valve Jun 16, 2025, 4:49 PM

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Shane: so tell me farmer, why shouldn't i jump off this cliff right now?
bg music: dansa med oss, klappa era händer

balmy valve Jun 16, 2025, 4:49 PM

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tiny zealot did you know you can change the music during an event with `playMusic`

I know but it's just funny

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It's meant to be a placeholder anyway, I plan on making my own songs

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 4:49 PM

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ah, a fellow "clap and eat a handbag" enjoyer

balmy valve Jun 16, 2025, 4:49 PM

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oh that's the best version of misheard lyrics i've heard

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 4:50 PM

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i simply adore mondegreens

balmy valve Jun 16, 2025, 4:51 PM

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cat fluffy paws, clap and eat a handbag
yours only yours, i wanna see you dancing

balmy valve Jun 16, 2025, 4:52 PM

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tiny zealot i simply adore mondegreens

i like A Stillness In The Rain and Echos best

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although as a sebastian enjoyer the latter makes sense

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and the former is simply so....perfect

tribal ore Jun 16, 2025, 4:55 PM

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Speaking of music, I'm trying to decide on a track for a wedding proposal that occurs when the player is already dating more than one person and the NPC knows it. Currently using shane's theme, but it sounds just a little too angry

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I've got a version in the rain that uses echoes and it's perfect, but the sunny version needs tweaking. Any suggestions?

balmy valve Jun 16, 2025, 4:57 PM

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Can I hear the rain version?

tribal ore Jun 16, 2025, 4:57 PM

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The rain version is Seb's theme (Echos)

balmy valve Jun 16, 2025, 4:57 PM

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Also, as much as I hate the Sims 4, it does have some pretty good sound design. maybe take notes from its failed proposal?

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Ohhh

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Why not take snippets from shane's theme and echos and mix them together to get that angry + angsty feel?

tribal ore Jun 16, 2025, 4:58 PM

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Mmmmmm. I could try some custom music, but I was hoping for this mod not to take longer than it already has xD

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This is shane: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hMdlpLwu-I

YouTube

Misbit

Stardew Valley - Shane's Theme

Couldn't find this theme anywhere but the saloon jukebox so I figured I'd put it up. ♥ Man after my own heart...
All rights go to Concerned Ape and Chucklefish

▶ Play video

rigid oriole Jun 16, 2025, 4:59 PM

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balmy valve Shane: so tell me farmer, why shouldn't i jump off this cliff right now? bg musi...

is this carameldansen

blissful panther Jun 16, 2025, 4:59 PM

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You could commission a track! I know Dodo takes (or used to) take them.

balmy valve Jun 16, 2025, 4:59 PM

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rigid oriole is this carameldansen

yes

tribal ore Jun 16, 2025, 5:01 PM

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blissful panther You could commission a track! I know Dodo takes (or used to) take them.

Thanks! I might. Thinking about maybe using Alex's theme, but that might tilt too much in the opposite direction (too sad, not enough angry)

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:03 PM

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fellas: is there a thing that exists to let you do a little c# in content packs, or did that die during the advent of 1.6

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 5:03 PM

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(i have considered taking music commissions, but i do not have my shit together)

fathom hound Jun 16, 2025, 5:04 PM

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(same)

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:04 PM

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tiny zealot (i have considered taking music commissions, but i do not have my shit together)

you make music?

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or rather, you can… do the music thing? LOL

calm nebula Jun 16, 2025, 5:04 PM

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How shit together do you need to be to take commission

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:04 PM

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calm nebula How shit together do you need to be to take commission

to be able to output regardless of creative muse

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so pretty shit together

fathom hound Jun 16, 2025, 5:05 PM

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-# I don't have my at home music studio fully set up yet

tribal ore Jun 16, 2025, 5:05 PM

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I made music for OlderSeb (twice), but I find that I have to be in the right headspace. Hard to get there when I'm actively writing dialogue

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:05 PM

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i took commissions once. took 3 and then never again lol

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 5:05 PM

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rough lintel you make music?

i have made music! i wrote the music for lacey

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:05 PM

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art is a fickle muse for me so thats why

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omg yo

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thats so cool i didnt even know that

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 5:06 PM

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i don't really advertise it

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:06 PM

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if you can do a thing with your brain turned off (like writing conpa code, or doing c#) then taking commissions for it is nice

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but if it requires a muse then i wouldnt monetize it

tribal ore Jun 16, 2025, 5:06 PM

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rough lintel if you can do a thing with your brain turned off (like writing conpa code, or do...

Yes

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:06 PM

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monetizing a muse is the beginning of the death of said muse lol

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 5:08 PM

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my only counterpoint is that sometimes clients want stuff that's either 1. outside your comfort zone or 2. a fresh perspective, and those can be great for personal growth

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 5:09 PM

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Most paid work tends to be the least creatively fulfilling tbh. So you have to manage that.

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:09 PM

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if its outside ur usual zone why would someone comm u for that if u have a portfolio of examples of stuff you Do primarily do

tribal ore Jun 16, 2025, 5:09 PM

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I found that most of the coding I did for myself, for fun, stopped when I started doing 40+ hours of it a week. Modding is what got me back into it

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 5:09 PM

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i dunno i don't currently take commissions lol

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:10 PM

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“so this guy that makes primarily fast paced techno beats… lets comm him for a classical piece” LMAO

rigid oriole Jun 16, 2025, 5:10 PM

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i figure if they already pay me to write code i'm not that passionate about at work, then going online and saying "pay me to do Not What I Want" is not for me haha

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:10 PM

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thats when u hit em with the “No” 🙂‍↕️

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 5:10 PM

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rough lintel thats when u hit em with the “No” 🙂‍↕️

This is real.

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I've been doing music commissions full time for the last, like, four years.

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:10 PM

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wait YOU TOO?

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 5:11 PM

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It took me, like, two years to say no to shit.

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:11 PM

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how many musicians do we have in here oh my god

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 5:11 PM

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Ya.

tribal ore Jun 16, 2025, 5:11 PM

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xD

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 5:11 PM

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I got really good at writing music really quickly because I was doing a thing called compos. You would write a song in an hour and just submit it.

tribal ore Jun 16, 2025, 5:11 PM

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I've found that people who code often do music, too

rigid oriole Jun 16, 2025, 5:11 PM

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i have an NPC mod idea but i really want him to have his own theme.... but I haven't WRITTEN anything in so long

tribal ore Jun 16, 2025, 5:11 PM

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It's a pretty big overlap

rigid oriole Jun 16, 2025, 5:12 PM

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i'm home for a bit rn and i have piano access for a bit, i wonder if i should mess around

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:12 PM

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daring skiff I got really good at writing music really quickly because I was doing a thing ca...

if i could read sheet music properly id consider doing this but my brain doesnt work like that

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 5:12 PM

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Lowkey I was going to ask Kantrip if they wanted free music because I don't need money. But I have so many other commitments going on to actually follow thru.

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Also, like, 5 of you said you take commissions.

blissful panther Jun 16, 2025, 5:12 PM

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tiny zealot (i have considered taking music commissions, but i do not have my shit together)

You should seriously consider it when you have the mental space for it! There's only Dodo right now.

tribal ore Jun 16, 2025, 5:12 PM

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I was going to ask you actually how much you normally charge

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:12 PM

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ive actually never seen the commissions list include music makers

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does it? did i miss the section?

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 5:13 PM

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dodo is the only active one i was aware of

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:13 PM

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is that list even relevant OR updated regularly? lol

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 5:14 PM

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Music comms are hard because writing and producing music is, like, the hardest thing in the world. (totally not biased)

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:14 PM

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no i believe that

uncut viper Jun 16, 2025, 5:14 PM

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i recall it having a section for music makers, so if it's not there anymore, it must've been updated at some point

tribal ore Jun 16, 2025, 5:14 PM

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Small point: where is the comms list, exactly?

blissful panther Jun 16, 2025, 5:14 PM

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It's there as of earlier today!

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:14 PM

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music is so subjective to everyone i imagine its difficult to produce stuff

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:14 PM

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tribal ore Small point: where *is* the comms list, exactly?

!commissions

ocean sailBOT Jun 16, 2025, 5:14 PM

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If you're looking for people who do mod commissions (either art or code), here's a wiki page with a non-comprehensive list of people who do them: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 5:14 PM

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(What You Do Is Easy, What I Do Is Hard)

uncut viper Jun 16, 2025, 5:14 PM

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(i recall this because I wanted to commission some at some point too)

tribal ore Jun 16, 2025, 5:14 PM

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Thank you!

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 5:15 PM

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It's at the bottom, but it's just one person. lol

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Real...

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:15 PM

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LOL

tribal ore Jun 16, 2025, 5:15 PM

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daring skiff It's at the bottom, but it's just one person. lol

Dang xD Alright

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:15 PM

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thinking fondly of tobert fox and his music rn… how do people do it …

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like how do you even start a song

blissful panther Jun 16, 2025, 5:16 PM

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I'll have myself on that list at some point...

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:16 PM

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the drum section? or i guess whatever instrument keeps beat?

tribal ore Jun 16, 2025, 5:16 PM

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Chord progression for me

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:17 PM

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my brain provides me w the main melody first whenever i concoct stuff in my soup cauldron

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 5:17 PM

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rough lintel like how do you even start a song

this is probably unhelpful but my answer is basically CA's answer of, like, find a music version of the feeling you are having about something

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:17 PM

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tiny zealot this is probably unhelpful but my answer is basically CA's answer of, like, find...

no no i get this

tribal ore Jun 16, 2025, 5:17 PM

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It definitely helps to listen to stuff similar to what you're trying to make

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:17 PM

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i have some songs marked because they convey such a specific feeling of a thing

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like am i ever going to need this feeling, no. but it sparks my creative muse, so i keep it lol

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 5:18 PM

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usually one line or sound or something will come to me and then i have to go play with it for a while and make it into something worth listening to

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 5:18 PM

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rough lintel the drum section? or i guess whatever instrument keeps beat?

A lot of genres are actually a drum game. A lot of the pop and EDM stuff I write is written as if its percussion.

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:18 PM

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just take a beethoven beat and make it go hard yall thats music making 🙏🙏🙏

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i forget sometimes you can just sample old stuff like that because its public domain lol

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 5:20 PM

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be careful where you get the samples from

tribal ore Jun 16, 2025, 5:20 PM

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There is also literally the free music archive

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 5:20 PM

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Pretty much the best way to make music tho is to make, like, 100 ideas and find one of the good ones.

tribal ore Jun 16, 2025, 5:20 PM

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freemusicarchive.org

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 5:20 PM

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Try looking at Bandcamp too, Kantrip. You can search by license.

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:20 PM

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well not sample as in a music file but …. replicate a progression from a beethoven sheet kinda thing

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 5:20 PM

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Plenty of people are also 100% happy to let you use their music if you just ask.

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:20 PM

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i dont know the fancy music terms

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 5:21 PM

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People forget that, like, most people don't actually need some monetary exchange. We're all just making shit.

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 5:21 PM

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oh, taking from old PD sheet music absolutely fine. but sampling is a whole other can of worms (performance and mechanical rights)

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:21 PM

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ahh okay

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yeah i was thinking about sawtowne using beethoven’s virus for one of their vocaloid songs and i chuckled lol

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bc ur like. What is this familiar melody. and then youre like oh my god

tiny zealot Jun 16, 2025, 5:22 PM

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pathetique 2 reappears with some frequency

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 5:25 PM

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rough lintel bc ur like. What is this familiar melody. and then youre like oh my god

This is interpolation.

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If you were looking for the word.

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:25 PM

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OOH!

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 5:26 PM

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You rerecord a melody. Sometimes it requires licensing, but for something like that it's probably good.

rough lintel Jun 16, 2025, 5:28 PM

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neato

coarse dune Jun 16, 2025, 5:31 PM

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does the "Name" field in Data\Objects show up client-side, or do I just need to edit the display name in Strings\Objects for players to see the new name?

calm nebula Jun 16, 2025, 5:31 PM

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The Name field is for internal use only

devout otter Jun 16, 2025, 5:32 PM

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Seeing so many musicians here makes me self-conscious about the music I wrote for Abigail's flute. >_>

calm nebula Jun 16, 2025, 5:32 PM

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And should never be shown

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Edit the Strings/Objecrs

coarse dune Jun 16, 2025, 5:32 PM

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got it, thanks so much! that saves me from doing twice as much as i thought i'd need to do emoteLoveBig

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that was meant to be a laughing emote but the heart works too

daring skiff Jun 16, 2025, 5:36 PM

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devout otter Seeing so many musicians here makes me self-conscious about the music I wrote fo...

||it's good||

balmy valve Jun 16, 2025, 5:38 PM

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You can add custom music with a content pack right?

tender bloom Jun 16, 2025, 5:38 PM

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tiny zealot (*What You Do Is Easy, What I Do Is Hard*)

are you sure you don't mean "what I do is easy, what you do is hard" 😛

balmy valve Jun 16, 2025, 5:38 PM

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I don't need c#?