making-mods-general

[rare orbit]

so for defining a character range how do i do that??

[gaunt orbit]

Iirc monogame uses angelcode font files

So I would look up a tool for making those

[rich seal]

Alright, so if I understood correctly, this SHOULD be the correct format? https://smapi.io/json/none/fad8ac46a783403982a1628017a4090c

[gaunt orbit]

Yes, but replace the part before the colon on line 12 with "Id"

[rich seal]

Oh, I guess I misunderstood what you said earlier then. When I asked if that was correct, you said yes lol

[gaunt orbit]

No, that's my bad, I misunderstood what you were saying

[rich seal]

Ah

so, "Id": "Campaigner.newroeSquid" is correct for line 12?

[rare orbit]

now how to do that...

any idea if there's a non download version of the program or not really?

[gaunt orbit]

Yes

[rich seal]

That makes a new error, saying I have two Ids, the other being the ID for roe. https://smapi.io/json/none/85da2ad4dc98409cbc1e6eb0e04b9990

[ocean sail]

@rich seal You leveled up to Cowpoke. You can now speak in our voice channels and share images in all channels!

[rich seal]

Aw, I miss the green icon 😦

[rare orbit]

ok so im checking the font file and lord... this is gonna be fun ;w;

the ui is confusing me...

[rich seal]

No errors are popping up, yet the patch isn't producing the intended Squid Roe. I fast forwarded a whole week, and all my other fish produced, but not the squid.

[dusk terrace]

I'm trying to mod a craftable path floor with a custom light... I thought I'd use Furniture Framework because it supports custom lights while content patcher doesn't afaik
but I only just now realized paths don't act like furniture at all now what?

[lucid iron]

Well if you want to use rugs, then MMAP can do that via furniture tile properties + tile property light

[rare orbit]

so? what settings are recommended to click for font settings?

[lucid iron]

Im sure furniture framework support such a thing too cus rugs r furniture

[dusk terrace]

the problem is that it's not a rug 😅

[rare orbit]

the setting with 00000 latin

[lucid iron]

Perhaps i can allow paths to grant tile properties

[dusk terrace]

it should be like those stone/wood pathways you place outside for 0.1 speed boost

[lucid iron]

Then u can just do it™️

But idk what u r going to do about a light up mode

[rare orbit]

hey? what do i need to click on the right hand side? do i need to select all of em?

[gaunt orbit]

I'll be real, you're in entirely uncharted territory here

At least as far as modding goes

[lucid iron]

I thought font settings the mod just let u use any ordinary ttf

[gaunt orbit]

Angelcode fonts are pretty common so you might find a guide on the xna forums or YouTube? But nobody has made an actual new font for stardew before

Font settings does let you use arbitrary fonts, but I assumed that wasn't what they wanted since they were asking in #making-mods-general

[tiny zealot]

there's one mod Script Font that replaces the font_bold for dialogues and mail and stuff, and maybe other fonts too, unsure

[rare orbit]

wait this mod can use ttf..... ;-;

[gaunt orbit]

It doesn't replace the font file, though, just the texture

[tiny zealot]

but that's a case of drawing over the png and fitting into the grid and etc

[rare orbit]

just ttff?

[lucid iron]

Yeah like ordinary true type font

[rare orbit]

i need to lie down ;-; i was nearly about to rip my hair out over this ;-;

[lucid iron]

Ik apple uses it for some funky futuristic font

[rare orbit]

so just drop it in? and it should show? or do i need to have it select from a file??

[tiny zealot]

the stardew fonts are a land of contrasts. most of them use texture atlases (especially for other languages) but the english dialogue font is nearly monospaced and read from a strictly gridded .png with (i believe) a few small hardcoded offsets for certain letters

[lucid iron]

I will never stop being annoyed that the other languages have smaller number fonts

My shop menu looks ass in 中文

[rare orbit]

i am this close to cryin ;-; cause i spent at least a few hours on dis..

[tiny zealot]

the japanese fonts are so pretty and i don't care for the english dialogue font at all

[fading walrus]

the guides I linked did mention you can use ordinary font files 😅

[gaunt orbit]

Yeah I use script font

[lucid iron]

Yeah im also jelly of that

The jp font r pixelly

The chinese font is like

[rare orbit]

yee but still i wanted some cute lil fancy font ;-; cause i gotta be extra.

[lucid iron]

Equivalent of comic sans

Although it does have 2 fonts on offer for reasons

One of them is lesser evil

[tiny zealot]

i remember there was some kind of outcry when the font was replaced so CA added the old one back in as a toggle

[lucid iron]

Yeah that was a whole thing

Although ppl were more angy about the translation changes

[rare orbit]

never assume a mod will be quick project.... that's how they get you ;w;

totally not me rn

what moment ever got yall feelin like this when it comes to modding?

mod makign i mean

[rich seal]

Where you want to just plop down, give up, and cry? Me rn with trying to get squid to produce roe 😦

[rare orbit]

i feel that in my soul.

[dusk terrace]

Me right now, trying to finish a comm while fighting the flu, and plan to use furniture framework isnt working out lol

[rare orbit]

pat pat

[karmic gust]

Definitely schedule testing. So, so, so tedious

[rare orbit]

im just gonna say mod making is basically black magic

let's be fr

or magic in general

[rich seal]

Wasn't there a console command to test if a patch was being applied properly?

[lucid iron]

patch summary

Or patch export

I like patch export personally

[tiny zealot]

this is me when i come back to nightshade and the enormity of the task of finishing the long-promised update defeats me again

[rare orbit]

pat pat

[lucid iron]

The prospect of updating machine control panel was this and yeah it took longer than writing the mod the first time

[brave fable]

no task is harder than starting it

except dealing with bundle code

[rare orbit]

also never ever assume a project will be quick and simple

[rich seal]

Alright, patch export was incredibly helpful, thank you. Now I sort of see why what I want to do isn't working

[brave fable]

definitely way easier to start that, even easier to quit

[lucid iron]

Blueberry have you considered delegating some tasks to your evil clone Cranberry

[rare orbit]

cause trust n believe it likely won't be quick and easy

[lucid mulch]

remind me in 20 hours to port ScheduleDebugger to 1.6

[patent lance]

ugh I was about to take a nap. but fine sinz163 I'll stay awake just for you (#6702471) (20h | <t:1748343667>)

[calm nebula]

Blueberry do you want to adopt a few mods

(I'm kidding.)

[lucid mulch]

my current problem is I have cool shit but procrastinate on doing proper releases for it and just keep things indefinately in the alpha/beta build phase

(see also: SpeedySolutions, schedule debugger and the actual debugger)

[brave fable]

i'm a very absent parent 😌

simply far too busy hunting monsters

[rare orbit]

in the wilds right

hue hue

i'd play monster hunter.... but i kinda suck at the games.

[brave fable]

(luckily we can just catch increasingly rare fish and decorate our houses with stuffed animals and huge chunks of meat)

[rare orbit]

yee

[rich seal]

How it feels when hours of struggling finally pay off

Finally got squid, midnight squid, and coral to produce roe in a fish pond 🥲

[idle lantern]

Could someone help me. I messed up the order of my sprites, so a custom character isn't matching the directionals in the code. '3' has it face down instead of '2'. The reference sheet I used must not have been correct.

[fading walrus]

Woooo!

[tiny zealot]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:NPC_data#Overworld_sprites

[idle lantern]

Bookmarking that page

[calm nebula]

Development is fun. Mod support is not.

[vernal crest]

!unpack Have you unpacked your game contents? Best to use vanilla images and data for reference where possible (with the wiki as support, though the wiki isn't always correct either).

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[idle lantern]

I was stupid, and had the walking animations in the correct order, but when I split the sprite sheet, I didn't have the swimming ones correct

[rare orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/cr1tikal-penguinz0-meme-woo-yeah-baby-gif-19316511

[shut edge]

so i'm poking away at another animal mod. am i understanding things correctly that i can use alternate purchase types to have totally different animals under the same store button, and then skins inside those to give them color variants?

[lucid iron]

Yeah

[shut edge]

cool

[lucid iron]

The "totally different" thing is how chickens give different eggs

Skins only look different

[shut edge]

yeah cuz they get their own data

if i was properly ambitious i'd make some kind of breeding thing but ehhhh effort

so [single shop button] -> several different similar animals -> (each animal getting a couple of skins)

now if i can just find an actual code example for skins lol

oh right i used them in my dinos mod

[frosty hull]

@gaunt orbit hello
i have question about mod HappyHomeDesigner
this code from InventoryCombine.InsertCombineCheck(...)
and code "if (TryCombine(ref slot, ref held, playSound))"
Is will insert like this?
left image: code il patcher
right image: src code + try figout how this work

[lucid iron]

In vanilla these are randomized 2 fold

[shut edge]

that should be fine

[lucid iron]

Unfortunately i made opinionated choice against that in livestock bazaar

People are also able to change which skin via AT

[shut edge]

bazaar is great imo

i suggest it in my mod descs

bazaar also helped me find an i18n error lol

[tawdry leaf]

Hey yall. I'm a new modder trying to make a mod that does a MapEdit of a SVE map, but I'm finding difficulty referencing another mod with the target. Can this be done how I want it to be done?

[gaunt orbit]

that's in the right spot, but the code would look more like this

Item slot2 = slot;
Item held = toAddto;
if (TryCombine(ref slot2, ref held, playSound)){
  actualInventory[slotNumber] = slot2;
  return held;
}

(slot2 is called slot in the transpiler, but I named it something else in the code mockup because it uses a different local than the slot variable in the decompile.)

[faint ingot]

Not sure exactly what you're looking for but here's a snippet from my mod that edits a part of the map when the user has SVE { "Action": "EditMap", "Target": "Maps/Town", "FromFile": "assets/Locations/ghostwood_townpatch_sve.tmx", "ToArea": { "X": 61, "Y": 0, "Width": 9, "Height": 9 }, "When": { "HasMod |contains=FlashShifter.StardewValleyExpandedCP": "true", } },

[violet grotto]

Got two (hopfully) simple questions. First: Is there a way to create a "pool" of items where one of the items is randomly chosen as a gift? (This is for a pet)

Let's say I want to have Desert Artifacts in a pool, so you could either get a golden mask or a golden relic. Not both!

Second: Is there a way to give multiple different items at once? As in I could get one Spiceberry and a Grape when I interact with the pet once.

[inner harbor]

Im very curious to how a duck fits into the story you're writing.

[woeful lintel]

I'm still in the rework mines... And I have a ton of work before reaching this feeling...

[tiny zealot]

it looks like pet gift entries support item queries, so yes, if you use an item query, you will get one at random https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Pets#Gifts
(page also says QualifiedItemId/Stack is obsolete here)

[uncut viper]

pet gifts use generic item spawn fields

[violet grotto]

Wha- HOW DID I MISS THAT?

I've been scanning that page for a while now!

Well, that solves the randonly chosen item thing.

is there something like this example that's like "// wood, stone AND pizza"?

[rigid oriole]

Im glad! I've been working on it sporadically when I have time and I hope eventually we can get it filled out

[tiny zealot]

i don't know if you can have it return multiple distinct items, but i think you can return a stack of one item (e.g. 2 pizzas)

[violet grotto]

Hmm, could I make multiple draws from a pool?

Like have a bunch of desert artifacts and pull two times from those.

Could end up with duplicates, but that isn't too bad.

[tiny zealot]

doesn't look like it, at least with pets:

Notes:
If ItemId or RandomItemId is set to an item query which returns multiple items, one item will be selected at random.

[violet grotto]

Dang...

Well, not that big of a loss.

Thanks for the help, folks!

[rare orbit]

im sorry to ask but which section of the modding wiki or readme for content patcher includes how to make new recipes?

i keep reading but it confuzzles me ;-;

it's mainly cause the tutorial on the wiki seems to only apply to existing recipes

[brittle pasture]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Recipe_data

what's confusing about it? it describes what a recipe should look like, and you can insert your own following the format

[tacit sparrow]

Not sure if this is channel to get inputs for default values, but a few feedback would be amazing.
When breaking geodes in a game from blacksmith, would you prefer to break all geodes in a stack (extra item falls on ground) or only break the number of geodes based on empty inventory spaces?

I'm trying to get a feel to see what should the be default config value

[manic shoal]

Based on empty inventory space

[rare orbit]

wait then i can change the id right?

i feel dumb...

[tacit sparrow]

Thanks, I'll probably switch to that appreciate your input

[rare orbit]

i kept misreading...

;-; sorry yall

[ornate moon]

is there a reindeer barn animal mod where you harvest their antlers like in real life? haha

[brittle pasture]

#modded-stardew is a better place
(and yes at least a couple)

[frosty hull]

@gaunt orbit Hello World
i have question, how this is work? and how can i test trigger this function

[ornate moon]

ohhh okay, now i am trying to get familiarized with these channels

[rare orbit]

how come all of the fruit tree fruit aren't used in vanilla....

i bet i can do it

anyone mind testing a mod when i get done?

might do a recipe mod

imma do 3 extra items

[brittle pasture]

apples, apricots, bananas and mangoes do have recipes

[rare orbit]

yeah but barely in vanilla

i just thought a recipe mod expanding on em would be fun

[manic shoal]

Does anyone know whether passive festivals like the Night Market, trout derby, etc will trigger the DayEvent token?

[rare orbit]

i am asking my bf what recipes use those fruits in his culture! his birthday is coming up and i wanna make a mod in his honor

his family is mainly from putero rico and he and i went to school together :3

i do wanna stick with vanilla ingredients since i need it to be simple enough for me to make

[brittle pasture]

no, you can use the regular day token since they don't change dates

[manic shoal]

Thanks!

[tawdry leaf]

im trying to add in a house for a new npc, but I want the house to be on a SVE map, in this case shearwater bridge. this isnt yielding the results I want it to, as the location is unchanged. I'm fairly certain im loading it after SVE, as I put the manifest that SVE is a dependency. The changes between 1.5->1.6 are making it hard to learn which tokens I need to use learning is hard

[rare orbit]

i know i could google it but some recipes feel more for tourists than locals

[brittle pasture]

Remove the tbin from Target?

[tawdry leaf]

i thought thats how I had it at first, but I'll try it again! ty

[uncut viper]

@manic shoal if it matters to you at all, those passive festivals can change dates. Data/PassiveFestivals is a thing. whether or not you care about the possibility of someone editing or extending them is up to you

[manic shoal]

I think for this particular mod I'm not concerned about it. But if there's a better way to check (with a content patcher mod) whether a passive festival is going on, then I'd probably use that.

[brittle pasture]

tbh I thought about that but the possibility of someone making that mod is probably zero, not zero though yes

if you can use game state queries it has one for passive festivals

[uncut viper]

i recall at least One mod editing the desert festival, though i couldnt tell you which mod it was at this point

[manic shoal]

I don't know what it means to use game state queries yet, but I would be happy to learn. Is there a wiki page or something for it?

[brittle pasture]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Game_state_queries

what's the context of your edit

[uncut viper]

you cant use Game State Queries in a content patcher when condition, importantly

unless you use another dependency

[manic shoal]

Ah, then that won't work for this

[uncut viper]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/21014
(found it)

[brittle pasture]

like if whatever you're changing supports GSQs natively then use that instead

[manic shoal]

I'm making a mod that automatically changes outfits (from Fashion Sense) depending on season, weather, etc

[brittle pasture]

welp, another case of me spreading misinfo

[manic shoal]

I've got seasons and weather sorted, as well as basic festivals but then I remembered that passive festivals exist.

[uncut viper]

theres anotehr mod making it year round, too, even

and thats just from me searching for the desert festival specifically

[twin wadi]

is it possible to make an npc both romanceable and available as a roommate? im thinking 8+ hearts arent locked, but if you give them a bouquet at 8+ hearts you unlock the romantic path and if you reach 10 hearts without bouquet there's a cutscene where the npc suggest becoming roommates or something?

[brittle pasture]

yeah the specific mod you're using doesnt seem to support GSQs unfortunately

[inner harbor]

I believe Sen does this

But you get a choice ingame platonic or romantic

[manic shoal]

Such is life shrug I'll give it a try using dates and hopefully that doesn't mess with automatically switching back to other outfits. Again. (That's been a problem I've had a few times, lol)

[twin wadi]

ohh okay

[twin wadi]

maybe i could add it as a config

[faint ingot]

Can you not have "#$b#" in the i18n for a quickquestion response, because # is a delimiter? I thought I had done it before but maybe I just hadn't properly tested, as I'm now seeing that it doesn't show the second part of the dialogue until talking to the npc after the event is over.

[lucid iron]

The way sen works is that he's initially not romancable but a certain mail flag set as part of his events makes him romancable in the data

The player is able to choose whether this flag is set

[rare orbit]

Puerto Rican Food ideas for mod

[gaunt orbit]

It does two things:

• if the held item and hovered item match a known combination it changes the hovered item to the combined result, and empties the held item
• if there is no held item and the hovered item is the result of a known combination, it sets the slot item to one of the parts and the held item to the other one
• if neither is true, return false and do nothing

If the transpiler and method both work as intended, plopping a catalogue on a furniture catalogue should produce a happy home catalogue. ("plopping" means doing the same thing you'd do to put bait on a fishing rod. On desktop that's right-click, not sure about android.)

[rare orbit]

i have a new thread!

i do need a bit of help since i want this to be a surprise for my bf

[tawdry leaf]

alas it was not the case, shearwater bridge is unchanged. not throwing any errors either 😦

[twin wadi]

oh okay thanks for the idea!

[tawdry leaf]

holy hell i didn't have an x coordinate, that'll do it

[rare orbit]

definitely gotta use cornucopia as a dependency

that's cool to use a crop mod as a dependency right?

[lucid iron]

Yeah usually

You can make your own crops if u want but like y tho

[rare orbit]

?

is it why im not making my own crop mod?

or why make a crop mod if ya can use one as a dependency?

[lucid iron]

Yeah if u want to focus on the recipes using existing popular crop mod is a good idea

[rare orbit]

yee

hopefully i can finish a part of it before june 8th

that's when my bf's birthday is

[idle lantern]

what program are you using to do your coding?

[iron ridge]

Looks like Monaco of some sort
Edit: yep definitely vscode

[rare orbit]

btw? should desserts have lower edibility? is that typical in vanilla?

listen i be chompin on salads and gifting most deserts to npcs

salad has yet to fail me

[ornate moon]

do you guys know to make animals in a mod to not be purchasable in marnie's farm? i want to make an a chicken variety of mine to be like maybe a dinosaur egg to be found or like the blue chicken with heart events, or maybe even event related like what if a fairy dropped it or a witch changes the egg. would love to know how!

[idle lantern]

I'm not completely for certain, but you should be able to create it and just not add it to Marnie's Shop

[lucid iron]

So if you want it to be exclusively a thing to hatch, make the price -1

See golden chicken in vanilla

There's also a GSQ unlock condition if you want the animal to be sold after some event

Blue chicken is an alt purchase type that's gated behind seeing the event

What you cannot do in vanilla is to make another vendor sell livestock, for that you need either shop tile framework or livestock bazaar

[ornate moon]

unfortunately, i have the livestock bazaar mod already so all the variant for animals i make can be chosen at will

[lucid iron]

No it still respects conditions

The only kind of GSQ it ignores is RANDOM

[ornate moon]

what is a gsq sorry if ignorant

[ornate moon]

i think this is a really cool idea actually, to make the animal event locked

[lucid iron]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Game_state_queries

[rare orbit]

anyone mind checking out some code im working on?

{
"Changes": [
{
"Action": "Load",
"Target": "Mods/{{ModId}}/objects",
"FromFile": "assets/objects.png"
},
{
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/Objects",
"Entries": {
"{{ModId}}_pastelillos_de_guayaba": {
"Name": "pastelillos de guayaba",
"DisplayName": "pastelillos de guayaba",
"Description": "A baked puff pastry that can have sweet or savory fillings, this recipe contains Guava Paste as it's filling.
Though they've originated from Cuba...they're rather popular in the Dominican Republic, Puerto Rico and even the United States of America. Nothing beats having the real thing though!",
"Type": "Basic",
"Category": -7,
"Price": 750,
"Texture": "Mods/{{ModId}}/objects",
"SpriteIndex": 0,
"Edibility": 35,
"IsDrink": false,
"Buffs": [
{
"Id": "{{ModId}}MatchaBuff",
"Duration": 360,
"IsDebuff": false,
"CustomAttributes": {
"MaxStamina": 30,
"Speed": 1
}
}
]
},

it's not complete as i have several recipes to go

[lucid iron]

Can you use the json parser please

[lucid iron]

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[lucid iron]

Did you do this already

[ornate moon]

yep! but the only unpacked contents are assets/sprites, does it usually show content files as well?

[lucid iron]

You should have Data/FarmAnimals.json

Assuming you used the recommended stardewxnbhack method

[rare orbit]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/867c744c324b4d6c8153a37b1cfe7b3e

it's a w.i.p but here

[lucid iron]

Open it and take a look at "Blue Chicken"

[lucid iron]

What troubles do you have?

[rare orbit]

i still gotta finish the other recipes but im filling in the object file

[ornate moon]

I'll do it tomorrow and udpate you! i am pretty sleepy haha but thank you so much!

[rare orbit]

just making sure im on the right track when it comes to filling it out

[lucid iron]

I mean just test it?

Just remember always spawn new copy of item

[rare orbit]

i will i just gotta finish the whole thing

[lucid iron]

I recommend testing it right now

Since you asked here i assume you want to know if you are on the right track, and the best way to know this is to simply test incrementally

[ornate moon]

do you guys also need to use a vpn just to open the stardewwiki?

[lucid iron]

No but it could depend on your country's firewalls

[ornate moon]

dang, my country suxxx

[rare orbit]

sorry bout that

[lucid iron]

It's strange to need vpn for the wiki but not for discord though

[lucid iron]

There's no need to apologize I am just suggesting better workflow

[rare orbit]

kk

now how to edit the gift tastes...

https://smapi.io/json/none/430218032db3468f848446c2aba56a03#code.36

it's still giving an error.

the other two as well...

[lucid iron]

You need closing }]}

[rare orbit]

i separated the gift taste, object and recipe json.

where??

if i may ask?

[lucid iron]

At the end

Hence "closing"

You should use some editor with json validation tbh

[idle lantern]

Trailing comma after the CustomAttributes block inside Buffs.

[lucid iron]

Trailing comma unimportant

Newtonsoft.JSON lenient about that

[idle lantern]

unrelated, because some people like to nitpick other people, meanly. "it's filling → its filling"

[lucid iron]

I don't think you are wrong but I do think you are distracting from the actual blocking problem

[idle lantern]

The only thing I see is that comma, I can't help anyway else 😦 sorry

[gentle rose]

what happens if you don’t use one?

[rare orbit]

i did change it

[rare orbit]

ok i got the asset done enough to test! but i gotta change the ingredients

so since it has guava filling and bonster's crops has two guava items how do i go about allowing the ingredient to be similar to how ya can use any egg in recipes. im asking since i dug into bonster's files and the guava context tags for the two fruit available are essentially different

how do i set it where you can pick between the two?

[brittle pasture]

you need to use the spacecore feature of context tags ingredients + the autogenerated id-based tags (like id_o_itemid)

[twin wadi]

how do you add a question in an event? it doesn't change the rest of the event, but has a special answer for each option.

[rare orbit]

so add space core as a dependecy too?

https://smapi.io/json/manifest/2330bc754a00428b9f004fe42f6d88b8

i just made the manifest and so far it's giving me hell

[brittle pasture]

yeah, then read the docs on how to add recipe overrides in SC

[ornate trellis]

question: in an event cant I do a message with the [ITEMID] thing to give farmer an item like when an npc talks? or it it because I tried using a custom item

[twin wadi]

can you just a trigger action line /action <action>?

or the add item line

[brittle pasture]

it shouldnt matter, what do you have

[ornate trellis]

well, I tried it like this
The pirate disappears and leaves something behind in the sand...[VoidWitchCult.CP.TheFishmongerNPC_LostIslandTotem]?

[lucid iron]

Did you use speak or something else

[ornate trellis]

message

[lucid iron]

Wonder if that one somehow didn't go through parsing

[twin wadi]

Maybe you can use /action AddItem <item ID> [count] [quality]right after?

[lucid iron]

Personally i think /action is better anyways

[ornate trellis]

hm yeah i think i gonna try that instead

[twin wadi]

how do you format the response to the answer the farmer gave in an event? like, normally i know you just add a dialogue line for the responseID outside of events, but in an event how would i format that?

[idle lantern]

this is how I did it

/quickQuestion The well-hidden drawer in front of Marlon looks battered and worn.#Need help opening that?#What else are you hiding in there?(break)emote MarlonFay 40\pause 200\speak MarlonFay "Thank you, no. Nothing worth dusting off, anymore."(break)emote MarlonFay 12\pause 300\

this is if that ending of the scene stays the same, regardless of responses though. Marlon had different reactions, but my scene ended the same way

[twin wadi]

oh okay! thanks

[idle lantern]

quickQuestion <question>#<answer1>#<answer2>#<answer3>(break)<answer1 script>(break)<answer2 script>(break)<answer3 script>

[twin wadi]

that's much more simple than what i did just now, where i defined the responseIDs in the dialogue.json file. if my method doesn't work ill def try yours in the future

thank you so much 🙂

[idle lantern]

I think if the scene changes based off of the response given, the scripting is more difficult

[ornate trellis]

hell yeah the action thing worked like i wanted

[twin wadi]

yay!

[ornate trellis]

this event is so dumb but i love it cuz its just farmer meeting me npc and they stare at each other for a moment and the npc jsut walks off and drops an item basically

[rare orbit]

https://smapi.io/json/none/e69a63acc58040248986aac844a63cf8
so like this right??

it's the recipe json

basically the only items i want any to occur is the milk, eggs and flour since i found there's many ways to make it

[brittle pasture]

You cant use context tags in base game recipes

flour_item wouldn't work

only exact IDs and category numbers are allowed

you'd need to change that to the base game flour, and make another block adding a SpaceCore override recipe

[faint ingot]

Bumping this from earlier in case anyone knows if there's a way to do a #b# in a quickquestion response. It had odd behavior for me.

[rare orbit]

k i kept readin it multiple times and for some reason my brain isn't getting it.

[uncut viper]

while i cant answer about quickquestion specifically, i can say that it doesnt matter what it is as far as the i18n token is concerned. the game does not know you are using a token. it just becomes one string from your default.json anyway

[brittle pasture]

examples can help, Cornucopia Artisan Machines override a couple vanilla recipes to accept any cheese instead of just regular cheese

[rare orbit]

so essentially? my best bet is to make an objectreplacements json and fill in the context for the eggs, milk and flour?

[sturdy pebble]

Hello! I'm not sure the best place to ask this question, but I was wanting to see about having a custom romanceable character modded into the game! Does anyone know of somebody who takes mod commissions? ❤️

[uncut viper]

!commissions

[ocean sail]

If you're looking for people who do mod commissions (either art or code), here's a wiki page with a non-comprehensive list of people who do them: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions

To use this command, type !commissions.

[rare orbit]

is the fruit ok in the json i sent? since it's specifying which one since the guava it's using?

[uncut viper]

be aware that an entire NPC is not an easy task

and so the price may be very high, if someone is willing to take it on at all

[brittle pasture]

search for spacechase0.SpaceCore/CookingRecipeOverrides in the SC docs

[uncut viper]

(or rather, its a "technically" easy task, but a very tedious and long task)

[brittle pasture]

that one will take the {{ModId}}_RedGuava item exactly yes, assuming your mod adds a red guava

[rare orbit]

yeah bonster's adds two guavas but the rubyguava seems to be sweeter given how it shows up in more dessert recipes in the mod

i did search for the text you send

[brittle pasture]

if it's not from your mod then change {{ModId}} to bonster's ID

otherwise it will search for the red guava item from your mod, which presumably doesn't exist

[brittle pasture]

so you'll basically Target that asset for editing the same way you target Data/Objects or Data/CookingRecipes

and add an entry for your override recipe

[rare orbit]

and this is in the content json?

i also double checked the ruby guava id and it says {{ModId}}_RubyGuava

[brittle pasture]

could be, or an imported separate json file

it says that because it's in their own mod, so it gets turned into their ID

you're referring to the item in your mod, so you need to turn that into bonster's ID yourself

[rare orbit]

k

so im trying to not go crazy. cause i go and check the id again and sure enough the same :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

i am runnin on fumes

[brittle pasture]

let me try again
{{ModId}} becomes the ID of the mod, so in Bonster's mod {{ModId}}_RedGuava becomes Bonsters.Crops_RedGuava (not the actual Id, just an example)
in your mod it would become Nikki98.Recipes_RedGuava. However, you didn't add the red guava item, Bonster's mod did, so the correct item ID would be Bonsters.MoreCrops_RedGuava

while Nikki98.Recipes_RedGuava doesn't exist and will become an error item

[rare orbit]

ok thank u ;w;

so? when you say to make the cooking recipe over rides?
is it supposed to look like this?
I essentially pasted the json from bonster's into here to see it better. to get an idea how to set it up
https://smapi.io/json/none/83eccbdc3dc248b6bc589401c76bf3b5#code.1

[brittle pasture]

yes that's a good start

[idle lantern]

I finished 4 custom events, and made a very simple extra NPC. I'm tickled pink. I did a very tiny mod before this one, years ago - but this feels far more rewarding

[twin wadi]

oh wow good job! i just finished making an event and it's really hard!

[dawn olive]

im scared to even look at events, I havent even finished my custom npc yet. this was supposed to be an easy and stupid idea and Im too far in to quit now

[balmy venture]

I'm also on that but I barely started the dialogs 🤣

guys, anyone know where these icons are stored in the base game?

[brittle pasture]

maps/springobjects

[balmy venture]

bless you kind angel

[grim valley]

I'm having a hard time getting a deffinative answer from documentation on Adding item to stores using Content Patcher 2.6+. This page https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/tokens.md#introduction

seems to imply in one of it's token examples that you could simply use something like (EditData) to add an item to the stores:
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/Shops",
"TargetField": [ "HatMouse", "Items" ],

Various AI seem dead set on having me use the Json Assets mod, but I'd like to keep the number of mods to a minimum.

Either way I can't get anything to show up in Pierre's when I use "Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/Shops",

Thanks for any info.

[proven spindle]

Don't use AI or json assets, both will get you nowhere fast lol

[grim valley]

No doubt there 🙂

[proven spindle]

Those first three lines are correct, after that you want an "Entries": line with the items you're adding

There's a few examples of the Entries entry in the content patcher docs if you search 'entries', that's what you want to look at next

[brittle pasture]

do the following if you haven't already:

1. unpack the files and see how Data/Shops are formatted
2. read the full Content Patcher guide to edit a game asset, like Data/Shops
3. read this page to see how the data unpacked from 1 work

[grim valley]

Ahh yeah the token example is missing some info.

[brittle pasture]

yeah start from the root lol: https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide.md

• the SDV wiki I linked above

[grim valley]

Yeah I was clearly jumping around. I totally misse dthe wiki entry on modding shops.

Looks pretty straight forward. Thank you!

[brittle pasture]

TargetField specifically allows you to edit a nested entry instead of overwriting everything
the example above uses it to insert a new entry into HatMouse > Items

you want to do the same but for Pierre's SeedShop

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 7 C# mods and 1 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[vital dew]

hi guys, i hope it's alright to ask this here -
i'm trying my hand at editing a few maps to fit the multiplayer run a friend and i are planning on doing
i was trying to edit the map of the mod that allows every player to have their own farm map, but for some reason smapi's throwing this error at me and refuses to load the map, and i'm not familiar enough with it to know how to begin fixing it
any help or directions would be very appreciated, and apologies in advance if it's an easy fix i just wasn't aware of!
https://smapi.io/log/0296ef4c840646aeac8a5127518a1a7d

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 17 C# mods and 5 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[near magnet]

ah sorry nvm i just realized this is in the troubleshooting section of the modding maps page on the wiki lol

[rare orbit]

ok! i think i did the spacecore json right!

[near magnet]

this is coincidentally the same issue i was having, the solution is on the wiki here https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps#.22Invalid_tile_GID:_.3C.23.3E.22

[rare orbit]

https://smapi.io/json/none/db4ef19f6592446fa860134f8aaaab7b

[near magnet]

basically just make sure your tilesheets are in the same folder as your map every time you edit it

[rare orbit]

i made the recipe have 5 servings since most recipes i found for reference make close to that

[vital dew]

aha how about that! so i just need to take the tilesheet images i had used to edit the map, and put them in the mod's folder?

[near magnet]

they don't need to be in the mod's folder when the game runs, you just need to make sure all edits happen in the folder with the tilesheets

[vital dew]

[rare orbit]

anyone mind checking out my json??

before i run it and mess up????

[vital dew]

i made the edits in a seperate folder that had the images - then saved the map
then moved the edited map to the file location in the sdv/mods/ bit, where it's loaded into the game
was i missing something?

apologies if i misunderstood

[near magnet]

did you open the map in tiled at all after moving it?

[vital dew]

i didn't but let me

rq

it looks fine after opening again... hmm

[near magnet]

the only other thing i can think of is maybe you used a custom tilesheet that isn't in the mod folder

[rough lintel]

running a broken json wont mess anything up, itll just tell you where the error is

[near magnet]

oh no what i meant was like once you move it you can't edit it

[vital dew]

i mean... the mod folder itself doesn't actually have any tilesheets in it, just the .tmx files

[vital dew]

no i hadn't edited it again

[near magnet]

the solution on the wiki is to put the map back in a folder with your tilesheets and then save it so it recalculates the gids but if that doesn't work for you idk what else to do either #sorry

[vital dew]

it's alright.. i may have just messed up a tilesheet or something, i can try again

[brave fable]

🎢 🫕
cooking recipe over rides

[vital dew]

okay, well i redid my edits, and didn't change any file paths of the textures, but now i get this error
https://smapi.io/log/9c644e43db5046f0af418d4131ab1d38

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 17 C# mods and 5 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[vital dew]

the only reason i tried to add in the textures in the first place when i made the original map edits was because when i opened the file in tiled, it looks like this ... and idk how i'm supposed to work with that lmao

[latent mauve]

You never want to press "Save" when you've got red Xs like that in Tiled

For now, move all the listed PNG files into your mod folder (or wherever you opened that file from) and reopen it in Tiled after without saving it here.

[vital dew]

i had tried that, that's how i got it to look the way it does now

[latent mauve]

if it says the files can't be found, then they are not in the same folder as the file you are editing.

Or your references are messed up

It looks like you originally tried to edit in the mod folder inside your Downloads folder

[vital dew]

it was a downloaded mod i'm attempting to make a personal edit of, yeah ;-;

[latent mauve]

Did you do a "Save As..." at some point? (that will break the paths like that, because they look in the old spot)

Okay, so does your current mod folder have the files in it?

If so, then you can do "Locate File" in that menu at the top and point to the PNGs that are in the same spot as the file you are editing.

[vital dew]

as downloaded, it doesn't have any tilesheets in the mod folder, no

[latent mauve]

right, but where is the one you are editing?

[vital dew]

it's that PathToFarms one

the other 2 folders look like this respectively, no tilesheets

so unless its supposed to be pulling them from vanilla, and i need to unpack the .xnb files ..?

[latent mauve]

Honestly, the easiest thing to do to fix this is to either:
a) copy/paste the TMX to an unpacked Content/Maps folder and then change your "Locate File" path for those tilesheets (if still not found) to be in that same Content/Maps folder
or b) do as directed previously and copy/paste the unpacked PNGs for the missing files directly into the mod's folder next to PathToFarm.tmx)

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[latent mauve]

Yes, it's trying to pull the vanilla tilesheets

You're gonna need to unpack the Maps folder either way to get to the missing tilesheets.

[vital dew]

ooh okay, so in content/maps, do i need to unpack any specific .xnb, or... all of em? my apologies for the trouble ^-^;

[latent mauve]

If you use the StardewXNBHack executable linked in the wiki, it'll unpack all the game files inside a new folder called something like Content (unpacked)

[vital dew]

got it! so those are unpacking

i just gotta move the tilesheets it wants (as listed in Tiled) into the same folder the PathToFarm.tmx is in
after that i can redo my edits, then save as normal, and then move the entire folder over to sdv/mods, i think?

[latent mauve]

Yep, as long as it has no red Xs when you save it, and all the files are in the same spot, you can then copy/paste the TMX safely. Just don't ever edit it again without moving the vanilla files to be next to it.

[vital dew]

i can move just the .tmx and don't need to move the tilesheets with it?

[latent mauve]

And if you publish the mod or if you use recolors, you should remove the vanilla PNG files from the mod folder before running the mod. They only need to be with the TMX while editing.

[latent mauve]

Yep!

Map mods tend to use Content Patcher to 'load' the map virtually into the game's Content/Maps folder at runtime, so it will automatically think the vanilla files are next to the TMX at that point when you're in-game.

[vital dew]

alrighty! lemme try my hand at this and see if it works
thank you so much for your patience in helping explain it to me
i've done other forms of modding like art and some light coding but mapping is a new beast aha

[latent mauve]

Happy to explain it, I just hope I'm explaining it well enough because I'm exhausted and a little hungry, LOL. I was about to go on dinner break.

[vital dew]

oh i am so sorry to have bothered you!! that food will be well worth it LOL

[orchid glade]

Is there a way to have two json files open in vscode and highlight differences bewtween them? Like a compare function?

[lucid iron]

yea

Explorer -> Open Editors

right click select for compare

right click a different one, compare with selected

[latent mauve]

I just did F1 "Compare Active File With..." and found the other one as a recently active file

(That's the difference in Sam's dialogue JSON from my old 1.6 unpack to current)

[orchid glade]

Ooh cool, I'll try both those options and see what's easiest for my workflow!

[vernal crest]

Like Pillow said, I use Visual Studio Code (actually, I use VSCodium but for all intents and purposes it's VSC).

[fading walrus]

VSCodium my beloved

[vital dew]

okay! so the map loads in game now (yippee!) but i, ehm, seem to be stuck... and noclippy doesn't fix it LOL
perhaps i need to edit a spawn tile? though i didn't change that when i made the edits
also, water layer is bein' all weird, buuuut i'll figure out what went wrong there after

[rigid musk]

for your water do you have something on the buildings and back layer

[vital dew]

not on buildings, but on back

the waters' on back i mean, sorry

[vernal crest]

You're the one whom I learned about it from!

[rigid musk]

for the water you need to have ground water tiles on the buildings layer as well

if that makes any sense

[vital dew]

it does!

including the surrounding grass bits too yeah?

[rigid musk]

hmm... it only did that when I didnt do that.. let me check one of my maps

also where do you get stuck?

[vital dew]

says it's here, where i should be, but it won't let me move the farmer

[rigid musk]

so the first one is my buildings layer, and the second is the back layer (third is them combined)

hmm are you sure you dont have a tile there on the buildings layer preventing you from moving? you could also change the default spawn tile so that it moves you one over to the left

[vital dew]

buildings is showing this -

[manic shoal]

Alright, I am giving up on making this Fashion Sense Outfits mod work perfectly with content patcher. It's time to finally learn how to make c# mods.

[vital dew]

moving the default spawn tile would be done in the .json right?

[rigid musk]

Yeah!

[vital dew]

it's 50, 15 .... one to the left would be, what, 49?

[rigid musk]

you can check on tiled!

when hovering over a tile you can see its x,y in the bottom left :D

[vital dew]

omg its gotta be 46

you are a godsend lmao

okay, let's try this again!

oookay, so weird stuff, i think the warps are all messed up and i'll have to find a way to fix them all
so for example, if i debug myself into the spawn position i'm supposed to be in, i can walk around
the top warp goes to the correct place - the bottom one does not work at all

i planned on using these with modded maps anyways so i guess i would have to edit them to have the warps in them anyways, wouldn't i?

[rigid musk]

are you doing the warps in Tiled or through the Json/CP?

Also you can add conditional patches with CP based on what mod you're using

[vital dew]

i assume they were through the .json since that was where i saw the main warp i edited in NP++, and i didn't see any warp tile options in tiled (i may have just not known what to look for) :o

it's a mod called multiple maps for multiplayer and it allowed access to, well, every player in the session to have their own full farm map, instead of everyone sharing one

[hard fern]

im sitting here writing a whole fairytale for my mod

[vital dew]

i've just been trying to make some personal edits for me and my one friend who wanted to do a multiplayer run together

[vernal crest]

Did you resize the map at all?

[twin wadi]

ughhh why is making npc schedules so hard?

[vernal crest]

Evil

[vital dew]

i had resized only this transition map, but i cropped it from the left side (where i deleted the left's data) so the right should all be in the same area.... unless cropping it moves everything (it might, i might just not know what i'm doing lol)

[hard fern]

yes

[vernal crest]

If you change the map by making it bigger or smaller at the left or at the top, it changes all of the coordinates because they are calculated from the top left.

[vital dew]

huh, good to know
the tile i had pulled from to have the farmer spawn in on, i checked the coordinates in tiled and wrote that one in the .json
i suppose it was still messed up somehow though

[vernal crest]

Did you check it after resizing?

[vital dew]

yeah

[vernal crest]

Farm maps usually have map properties that control where the player arrives rather than using normal warps. Maybe this transitional map does too?

[hard fern]

3

sorry my cat

[vernal crest]

Hi Forsy's cat!

[hard fern]

why do they always have to walk on my keyboard

[latent mauve]

(is there a Data/Locations entry for the transitional map, and if so, does it have a DefaultArrivalTile set?)

[rich seal]

I've been strugging with adding an item to a vanilla monster's drops. In this case, I'm trying to add Bat Wing [767] to Iridium Bat, but I keep getting the same error. I read the wiki and (probably?) understand which entry in Data/Monsters.json is the loot, but no matter what I put in, the log just tells me that my patch has "type 'System.String', which isn't recognized by Content Patcher". Can someone explain what I should be doing? I'm still very much inexperienced with code. I feel like I'm almost there, but I keep failing to reach the goal.
https://smapi.io/json/none/6398aceef6304caab6e52d8d2fdc14ca

[latent mauve]

You're trying to edit part of a slash-delimited string, so you have to handle that a bit differently, I think

[vital dew]

seems to, and i had already changed it to what it should be to spawn you in correctly

[vernal crest]

Are you trying to get there via debug warp or from a warp somewhere in the world?

[vital dew]

a warp from the backwoods (behind bus stop) is where, generically, the mod allows you to enter the PathToFarms map from

if i walk thru that transition INTO the map, it spawns me weirdly, even if i set the tile for it right via the .json

so i'm like

[vernal crest]

Can you show your JSON where you have edited the Backwoods warp?

[vital dew]

the only part of the json where it made sense is this bit here, the other Data/Locatons it shows are the farm maps and where you arrive on those at

[vernal crest]

Default arrival tile only affects the location you arrive at when you're not using a warp set in the world, so using the Backwoods warp will not make use of default arrival tile.

[vital dew]

hmm, alright

[vernal crest]

You can test this by copying debug warp Custom_MPF_PathToFarms into your SMAPI console and hitting enter.

[vital dew]

man, maybe i'm not quite ready for all the intricacies of map modding just yet haha

[vernal crest]

See where it warps you to. If it goes to 46 15, you'll know your default arrival tile is working properly and it's a warp you have to edit.

[vernal crest]

Yeah like fireredlily said, editing a slash-delimited string works differently than editing a model. And it's something that I can't do off the top of my head so I'm trying to find an example to show you.

[latent mauve]

The TextOperations examples for delimited lists are only editing a searched for value or Universal Loves, which.... is not slash-delimited, and thus doesn't help here either.

[vernal crest]

Let's hope someone in my playthrough mods has done it

[latent mauve]

I forget how you target a specific index in the slash-delimited fields

[rich seal]

Yeah I was reading that example too. That only got me more confused lol

[latent mauve]

    "Action":"EditData",
"Target":"Data/Monsters",
"TextOperations":[
    {
        "Operation": "Append",
        "Target": ["Fields","Iridium Bat",6],
        "Value": "767 .9 767 .4",
        "Delimiter": " "
    }
]
}``` this feels close

NOTE: This has been edited to be the working version of the code for anyone searching in the future for how to append values to a specific field index inside a slash-delimited list.

[vernal crest]

Hold up I have been thinking you wanted to replace what's in the field but you want to add to it?

[latent mauve]

but I don't know if the 6 to target the 6th slash-delimited field even works

[vernal crest]

I think that's close Lily. This is to add to gift tastes:

// add gift tastes
        {
            "LogName": "Leah Gift Taste Edit",
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/NPCGiftTastes",
            "TextOperations": [
                {
                    "Operation": "Append",
                    "Target": ["Fields", "Leah", 1],
                    "Value": "AgentLyoko.SaloonBreakfast_FreshOrangeJuice",
                    "Delimiter": " "
                }
            ]
        },

[latent mauve]

ah-ha, so try it without the quotes around 6

[vernal crest]

And I think it needs to be Fields instead of Entries

Because you just want to change one field, not a whole entry.

[latent mauve]

seems right that it'd be Fields

[rich seal]

So remove quotation around 6, and change Entries to Fields?

Or just the 6?

[latent mauve]

The key is Iridium Bat, so I feel like part would still be Entries, but I am uncertain how it'd handle the rest of the fields.

But based on the Leah example, change the "6" to 6 and Entries to Fields, see if it works.

You can't use both Entries and Fields AFAIK, so it's gotta be Fields in this case.

[vernal crest]

If I were trying to come up with it from scratch I'd probably do Entries as well, but since that example is from a working mod (Part of a Saloon Breakfast) I'm assuming it's the right way lol

[rich seal]

Still getting the "EditData Data/Monsters" to Data/Monsters: the field 'Iridium Bat' has type 'System.String', which isn't recognized by Content Patcher" error in the console, and the patch didn't apply this time either.

[latent mauve]

Make sure you've adjusted your Target

You had Iridium Bat in TargetFields before, you can't do that here

[vernal crest]

Can you show exactly what you changed it to and also the log?

[manic shoal]

I am trying to learn C# but I am on linux, so I'm using Jetbrains Rider. And it is very frustrating to try and learn a new skill when the tutorial is using one program, I am using another, and I don't have any experience with either.
If I can just get Jetbrains to the point where I can actually start writing the code, I'll probably be fine, but I can't figure out how to get it set up with what I need and the only tutorial I found for getting JetBrains set up to write C# assumes the reader is migrating from VS and is already familiar with both Visual Studio and C#.
I am determined, but I am having A Time and needed to vent a little.

[rich seal]

changed to: https://smapi.io/json/none/cfa569ddbb9644118da768ae62229ca0 (following what was suggested above)
log: https://smapi.io/json/none/18060cbaf5284503aec06d5974e18b1c

[latent mauve]

        "Iridium Bat",
        6
      ],
      "Fields": {
        "Campaigner.newdropIridiumBat": {
          "6": "767 .9 767 .4"
        }``` this is wrong, it was what was wrong the first time

so make sure you've got the updated link for the JSON

(I think you had the old URL still)

[rich seal]

I had too many different json tabs open so I must've grabbed the wrong one. Trying the correct one now

[vernal crest]

There really isn't a lot of info for Rider unfortunately but are you using this? https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:IDE_reference#Windows.2FMac.2FLinux_.28Rider_2024.x.x.29

[rich seal]

So just to be certain, this is what I should be using right now for testing, right? I see it was edited.

[latent mauve]

this is what I wrote + Aba's corrections: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/5e0c70e7da404018b6883ec9d9ac1c24

At the very least, you should get a different error if it fails.

[rich seal]

Gotcha. I'll try that now

Oh, no error in console. That's a good sign

[manic shoal]

Oh my gosh, I missed that! I was literally on that page, but I must've scrolled too fast because I thought the whole thing was for Visual Studio. You are a lifesaver!!!! ❤️

[vernal crest]

(By the way, there's a specific page for the log rather than putting it into the json validator too. You don't have to go and put your log into it since Lily already identified the issue but just for future: https://smapi.io/log)

[rich seal]

Got it bookmarked, thanks. Now for the patch, I did patch export data/monsters, and I see the change in the right field. Now...is there an easy way to just spawn a bat, or am I gonna have to trudge the skull caves to test it lol

[latent mauve]

for quick testing, you can do a patch export "Data/Monsters" to see if it actually changed and looks right in the JSON file the game is using. 😉

[rich seal]

I just said I did that lol

[latent mauve]

oops, I had already typed it and hit send late. LOL

[rich seal]

all good lol

But yeah, maybe I should test with an easier monster to find rather than that bat

[latent mauve]

there's a debug command to spawn a pepper rex, there probably is one to spawn a bat

[vernal crest]

debug monster <S:type> <I:X> <I:Y> [I:facingDirection]

The console commands page is one of the modmaker's best friends: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Console_commands

[latent mauve]

not sure if you can specify Iridium Bat in there, but it's worth a shot.

[rich seal]

I don't know what those I:X and I:Y things are. Do I put numbers in there? Or should I just take the route of editing an easier enemy to find lol

[latent mauve]

that's where it spawns it in at

[rich seal]

Matter of fact, I'll just try it on a green slime. If it drops a bat wing, then surely the iridium bat will too lol

[vernal crest]

(Go to the console commands page and look at the command lol)

The X and Y are the tile coords you want to spawn it on

But it does look like Iridium Bat is not a valid option for that command

[latent mauve]

(btw, I went back and edited my Discord codeblock so that it's the working example with a note to make it easier for future people searching how to do the same thing)

[vernal crest]

(Ooops sorry Lily I missed you already saying that's where it spawns)

[latent mauve]

(all good aba!)

[rich seal]

Yep, green slime dropped bat wings after I changed it to that instead of the bat, so clearly the patch works, hooray! I appreciate you folks holding my hand through that ordeal. I'm still bad with retaining what I learn since I'm no coder, so all this has been helpful.

[vernal crest]

You're welcome. It's definitely a bit mindbending once you start trying to edit individual fields in a slash-delimited string. Thank goodness 1.6 removed most of them.

[latent mauve]

Data models, my beloved

[rich seal]

Yeah, when I saw "slash-delimited string" earlier, I was like "Aw hell, another new word I don't recognize"

[latent mauve]

anything that goes value/value/value is a slash-delimited list

And sadly, they still exist in a lot of places D:

[trim sand]

ah yes like recipe data

[latent mauve]

(Furniture is in that same circle of sadness)

[trim sand]

crafting/cooking being cursed moment

[vernal crest]

I think we might be getting some more converted in 1.6.16 but don't quote me on that.

[tiny zealot]

events

[rich seal]

Crafting didn't seem all that bad when I looked at it

[trim sand]

its not terrible. doesn't mean i haven't had bugs that took days to fix because i messed up which field i was putting stuff in

multiple unused fields in crafting data moment

[rich seal]

Oh, all those nulls?

[latent mauve]

the field is required but the value is ignored

[rich seal]

Just like my applications 🥲

[trim sand]

something something copy paste error resulting in putting unlock conditions in an unused field/

[vernal crest]

That part trips people up. They think they can just skip it, not realising that changes the index of the rest of the fields after it.

Okay, time to return to my ridiculous beast of a gift tastes file

[trim sand]

gift tastes shudder

[latent mauve]

I'm gonna go back to gaming to rest my brain a bit, LOL

Have fun coding, I'll be working on mine some more later this week when my brain is less mushy xD

[vernal crest]

I am making Hiria reject almost all gifts which has meant a lot of testing RejectItem_<tag> over and over again

[latent mauve]

I have to add Lon Lon Milk as a loved gift for the Goron NPCs, but that's a later problem.

[vernal crest]

Thank you past me for editing the wiki after testing acceptance/rejection precedence so I don't have to test that all over again 🙏

[inland cedar]

how to get the NPC today dialogue? the one that will be display when talking to them? I tried with npc.CurrentDialogue but it doesnt seem to be correct in some case

[tender bloom]

are the incorrect ones being overriden by conversation topics or location-specific dialogue?

[inland cedar]

I am not quite sure. for example I test on lewis on the 1st day of the game, it show the rregular monday dialogue instead of the actual "how the first night"

[tender bloom]

so it seems like they don't account for CTs at all, then

You'd probably have to poke around in the decompile to see when/where CTs are added so you can check downstream of that

[vernal crest]

Am I reading this correctly that gift taste dialogue doesn't actually check for category specifically but rather checks for qualified item id and then context tag only?

dialogue = this.TryGetDialogue("AcceptGift_" + gift.QualifiedItemId) ?? (from tag in gift.GetContextTags()
    select this.TryGetDialogueByGiftTaste(taste, (string tasteTag) => "AcceptGift_" + tasteTag + "_" + tag)).FirstOrDefault((Dialogue p) => p != null) ?? (from tag in gift.GetContextTags()
    select this.TryGetDialogue("AcceptGift_" + tag)).FirstOrDefault((Dialogue p) => p != null) ?? this.TryGetDialogueByGiftTaste(taste, (string tasteTag) => "AcceptGift_" + tasteTag) ?? this.TryGetDialogue("AcceptGift");

[lucid mulch]

don't categories become context tags?

[vernal crest]

Yes they do.

But there's also a category field. I'm interpreting this as gift tastes don't check the category field but rather check for the context tag for the category.

I checked because the wiki page for gift tastes doesn't mention that you can use context tags so I wanted to add that. But then I thought I'd better check the precedence in case it goes item id -> category -> context tag (or whatever). My conclusion from reading the code is that the code doesn't differentiate between category and context tag but before putting that on the wiki I wanted to get a sanity check from someone better at C# than me.

Oh I might have been looking in the wrong place anyway. I didn't notice that the wiki points to the method.

Well, trying to read NPC.getGiftTasteForThisItem leaves me thinking I'll just put context tag precendece as a TODO on the wiki page lol

[twin wadi]

...time to move?

why...

[woeful lintel]

get derby'd

[mighty ginkgo]

what happens if a npc has a schedule point in a spot where a mod placed a building by the way?

the top parts of the forest are pretty heavily used by mods. i think the lower left part is least used, although even there several mods patch new entrances to their areas

[ornate locust]

depends, sometimes they walk into stuff until collision stops working and then they noclip really fast in a straight line

[sleek igloo]

Aaand updated the paddy mod chu and I made to be less clunky! https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/34254

[inner harbor]

@idle lantern Just so you know f Marnie 2 is 2 friendship points, not 2 hearts. You need to multiply it by 250.

[stiff laurel]

Does anyone know where the jungle tank's texture is located, I looked at the furniture sprite sheet but it contains all the fish tanks except the jungle one.

[mighty ginkgo]

TileSheets\\furniture_2 according to Data/Furniture

[stiff laurel]

yep got it. thanks

[median forum]

is dialogueWarpOut only for one NPC or can i use it for two?

[vernal crest]

Lily says you can have end dialogue for multiple NPCs so that probably applies to end dialogueWarpOut too.

[median forum]

oh cool! thank you!

[inner harbor]

You can?

[vernal crest]

She has an example here: #making-mods-general message

[inner harbor]

All this time I just used Conversation topics

[crimson kettle]

is there anyway to fix this custom window tile, i can't seem to find the solution after changing everything i can in content file

[hard fern]

uh, is this in an npc house or a farmhouse or what

[crimson kettle]

it's in farmhouse

the other window works fine so idk what's problem

[woeful lintel]

Is there a reason why the game loads Data/Furniture upon loading the savefile select screen?

[patent lance]

@lucid mulch: port ScheduleDebugger to 1.6 (20h ago)

[winged sand]

hi everyone! very new to modding, I was watching how to add a custom location (a farm map) into the game, SMAPI is installed, content patcher too, so far so good...
My issue is that since 1.6, the content json files are different than before, and I can't get it working...
so does anyone have a template for a content json file I can use for at least testing my map as it goes? (I think it's something about location data or something, can't figure it out!)

[vernal crest]

You don't need to edit Data/Locations for custom farms. You can, but you don't have to. You do need to add an entry to Data/AdditionalFarms. There's an explanation on this page and an example content.json you can use (I've used it before as the starting point for my custom farm): https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Farm_data

[orchid glade]

So I'm looking at this code in a mod, does this actually work?: "Action": "EditImage", "Target": "Characters/Sam_Beach.xnb", "FromFile": "assets/Sam_BeachOW.png" }, I've never seen the .xnb targetted before... or... is it wrong..?

(ignore the missing first bracket)

[finite ginkgo]

It's wrong, the data asset names don't include any file extensions

[orchid glade]

Well, I better fix it then

[winged sand]

I keep getting the SMAPI error while trying to warp to my custom map "no location with name"

[vernal crest]

Why are you trying to warp there? Have you started a new save file where you chose your custom farm? You should just be able to exit the farmhouse and be on your farm.

[winged sand]

it's really a proof of concept so far, no entrance or whatever, it's not finished, I just want to warp to it, to get a feel of my progress, the size ingame etc.. I haven't placed the farm, or greenhouse, or even warp tiles to bus stop or anything so far

what confuses me is that smapi seems to load it ok, and yet and <i can't get to that location using commands

[vernal crest]

!json Can you share your json so I can have a look at what you're doing with it?

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[vernal crest]

Can you please use the website like Governor's message says?

[winged sand]

https://smapi.io/json/none/c14b0d44ae364d2fbb36fc6bdd207435

[vernal crest]

Thanks :)

[winged sand]

yw!

[vernal crest]

What is your mod's unique ID?

[winged sand]

that's what I don't understand in the wiki, how to get one?

[vernal crest]

You make it. Your manifest.json has a field called "UniqueID". That's your mod ID.

You need one for your mod to function, so you must already have one.

[winged sand]

oh!!!! Ok OK!! well I 'll try that! thanks for replies and patience !

[vernal crest]

No, I haven't told you the issue yet.

I just wanted to know what your mod's ID is so I can check it against what you're trying to warp to.

[vernal crest]

Oh but since this is a farm, you should be able to warp there just by doing debug warp farm anyway. But if you didn't choose your farm at the character creation screen I don't think it's going to exist at all.

[vernal crest]

Also, you've named your AdditionalFarms entry {{ModId}}_1 while its ID is {{ModId}}_jeanfarm, but they need to be the same thing. And your Data/Locations entry cannot be Farm_{{ModId}}_PineappleFarm - it needs to match your AdditionalFarms ID.

[karmic gust]

A user on Nexus messaged asking if they could translate my mod into Mandarin. I checked their profile and it seems they've translated a few others as well this year. Is there anything I should know/consider before giving permission to do so?

[drowsy pewter]

Things to consider would be seeing if they reupload mod content in their own translations, or just the i18n file (most people now only do the i18n file) (if your mod is set up for i18n). You can also consider if you want to ask them to upload it separately, or if you want to put it in the mod yourself.

[calm nebula]

A handful use machine translation

If this bothers you you should mention it

(I wouldn't know about this person)

[karmic gust]

Yeah I was slightly concerned about that but I wasn't sure if it'd be rude to specifically ask that they wouldn't

[calm nebula]

Someone dm'ed me and told me one of the submitted Chinese translations in one of my mods is a machine translation

So when I get time I'm gonna text to voice it (I can't read Chinese well but I can understand by listening)

And remove it if I think it is bad in favor of the new one

[vernal crest]

Some people do crappy machine translations as fast as they can in order to DP farm, though they don't usually ask permission so them asking is a good sign (unless they decide that asking permission is the same as getting permission and upload before you can even respond, as some people also do).

[karmic gust]

I haven't looked into i18n and my mod isn't set up for it. Just for clarification, that's when they would download your mod in addition to the translation?

Yeah I'd really like to avoid machine translations

[calm nebula]

(Fwiw, I'm not against machine assisted translations, and I don't ask translators ask me for permission.)

When I was active I preferred it because I could give translators the i18n for the next version, but I've always been mit/cc-4 licensed

But you can ask for whatever

Ie, no machine translations, or always bundled, or never bundled, etc.

[drowsy pewter]

Yes it is. Typically we suggest making your mod i18n compatible so that mod users dont end up with outdated/buggy versions of the mod just because they have to use someone's older, translated version of it to play on their language. but its not a huge deal for your first mod

So in this vase, the translator will need to translate and reupload your mod separately, or upload a file to replace/overwrite one of your code files

[calm nebula]

Which can cause endless issues down the line

[karmic gust]

In case there are bugs that need fixing because then they'd have to fix it on their end as well, yes?

[drowsy pewter]

For example cornucopia has a third party translation which replaces the main code file unnecessarily. This caused multiple issues when I wrote an update for my mod and players using that translation had an outdated main file but up to date subfiles with mismatched code

Yes they will

[tiny zealot]

yeah, or just if anything about the mod and its files changes, the translator is on the hook to propagate those changes and update

[drowsy pewter]

its likely they'd forget about it or not realize

[calm nebula]

Tl;dr just use i18n

[tiny zealot]

you can even do i18n folders now, so you can split up files if you want and not have to have one huge monolith (although you may enjoy a monolith, who knows)

[calm nebula]

It depends on how many translations and how much I'm willing to rework things tbh

[drowsy pewter]

The final exception to needing to use i18n is if your mod is a content patcher mod and the ONLY thing that needs translating is the config options. In this case they can create an i18n file for the config without you needing to change anything

[woeful lintel]

"Oh yeah, that's why I have to give the game the size of the Source Rectangle, I remember now"

[karmic gust]

Ah, no. It's a bunch of events and dialogue and such

Alright well, i18n support it is lol

[drowsy pewter]

can someone link the i18nifier for them? idk how to use it

[calm nebula]

!converters

[ocean sail]

These community tools help update mods to newer formats or frameworks:

• Convert to Content Patcher from Custom Furniture, Better Farm Animal Variety (BFAV), Custom Music, JSON Assets, More than Necessary (MTN), SAAT, Shop Tile Framework (STF), TMXLoader, or XNB.
• Convert to other frameworks:
  • Pants/skirt spritesheets to Fashion Sense
  • Visual Content Patcher mods to Alternative Textures
  • Hair spritesheets and JSON Assets shirts & hats to Fashion Sense
  • Custom Ore Nodes and Custom Resource Clumps mods to Item Extensions Framework
  • Content Patcher Animations to SpaceCore
• Other tools:
  • Extract i18n for a Content Patcher pack
  • Convert fish data from field names to slash delimited values
  • Convert markdown text to Nexus' bbcode

To use this command, type !converters.

[calm nebula]

First thing under "other tools"

[karmic gust]

Thank you!

[calm nebula]

I don't know how to use it either

Loooook 6480 we consider may 2023 the date I actually retired from modding b/c that is the last time I did a real release wave

Also my heart is in "should I plant purple asparagus in the garden" these days

[woeful lintel]

a soldier never truly leaves the battle field

[vernal crest]

I vaguely know how to use it but most importantly I know how to ping Nomori and bug him about it if needed :D

[drowsy pewter]

at what point do you become "retired" for more years than youve been modding

[calm nebula]

I think that is soon actually

Or may have already passed

[drowsy pewter]

so ive never actually been active at a time when youve been active either lol

when do i get to start saying im retired

[calm nebula]

What's funny is I don't think casey and I have both been active at the same time (not intentionally, but her hiatuses and me actually doing any modding work tended to line up. Coincidence?)

[calm nebula]

I distinguish retired from hiatus in only one way

Retired means there isn't hope of you coming back

Hiatus means there is still hope

[frosty hull]

thanks you hehe, i don't know how to trigger inventory.rightClick() on android
but here patch code, i think that should works fine
https://github.com/NRTnarathip/HappyHomeDesigner-Android/blob/a69429d21948f0ed031c9b6859d18e0aaca22c71/Patches/InventoryCombine.cs#L153

[ornate moon]

does the xnbhack only include sprites? I've used it twice and i don't have any access for content files

[flat sluice]

No, it should unpack barely all files.

[ornate moon]

does the animal folder have the json files for them or is it in a different folder, cuz i only see the sprites in that folder

[flat sluice]

In the animals folder, there are only sprites. JSON is somewhere else, IDK where, though.

[ornate moon]

oke thanksss

[gaunt orbit]

How do you normally put bait on a rod in android?

Thanks! I'll clean it up and put it in.

[frosty hull]

just drag & drop, it will fill bait into rod
but i don't know how to remove bait 😂

[vernal crest]

You want the Data folder for most of the json files that aren't strings or NPC dialogue/schedules. You're probably looking for Data/FarmAnimals.json.

[frosty hull]

no no, i suggest don't pull & push request from my fork
HappyHomeDesign i need to adjustment & fix some UI button
so don't worries about on my fork

[ornate moon]

already found it! thaanks

though i still don't know how to make an animal not purchasable from marnie. i want to make a golden purchasable in an event shop haha

[vernal crest]

Event shop?

[gaunt orbit]

hmmm so it's got like a custom drag and drop implementation.

[vernal crest]

Also as I think I mentioned, I believe you need chu's mod Livestock Bazaar to make it possible to sell animals anywhere other than Marnie's.

[gaunt orbit]

man I wish I had the android dlls

[ornate moon]

like maybe purchasable in the night market

[ornate moon]

oh yeah i already installed it

[gaunt orbit]

although I guess it makes no difference if I can't test it

[vernal crest]

Oh, at a festival. Hmm, I don't know if that's possible. Still, read the Livestock Bazaar documentation and you might find that it is.

[ornate moon]

doing my best haha

[frosty hull]

don't worries, my SMAPI Thai discord we have a lot people testing & help fix patch for android

[lucid iron]

If you can put a tile action it will work

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/Mushymato/LivestockBazaar/blob/main/author-guide.md

[lucid iron]

Right now you do patch fixes by just having forked android specific versions of mods right?

[frosty hull]

yes correct

if i ready to release mod i will upload on my fork

[lucid iron]

Did you look into using Cecil to rewrite some binaries

I think it would be a less scattershot approach

[gaunt orbit]

does patching rightClick let you combine with drag-and-drop? or is there some other method I should be targeting on android to make that work?

if I can figure out the combination thing, that will also help me port MUS to android

[frosty hull]

i don't know haha, i think it will trigger rightClickI() when we connect keyboard or mouse
i not sure about that

[frosty hull]

yes, some mod i have fixed with Facade or Rewriter

[lucid iron]

For example i know this method is missing on android
StardewValley.ISoundBank.Exists

[gaunt orbit]

if you can ilspy the android dlls, you could lookup references to Tool.attach

[lucid iron]

In my own mod i got around it by doing lame reflection things https://github.com/Mushymato/TrinketTinker/blob/main/TrinketTinker/Wheels/Reflect.cs#L49 because i had zero way to test

[frosty hull]

yes, a lot of missing field or method, i have fixed
https://github.com/NRTnarathip/SMAPI-Android-1.6/blob/develop/src/SMAPI/Mobile/Audio/StardewAudioMethods.cs

[lucid iron]

Cool ty

The other definitely no work on phone thing in this mod is the trinket inventory menu but I don't think that's easily fixable

Atm i think it just crash if you tried to use

Hm if the soundbank thing is good now does East Scarp C# work on phone?

[frosty hull]

yes it works

RSV, SVE, EastScarp

[lucid iron]

Back in 1.5, there was a website that listed compatibility with Android SMAPI

[blissful panther]

The GitHub repo with the 1.5 source is still up, but that's not going to be super helpful nowadays.

[gaunt orbit]

compat was a lot worse in 1.5, though, because xamarin was allergic to annotations

[lucid iron]

It would be nice to have something like that again, though maintaining that is going to be a lot of work

[tiny zealot]

this was the website (that i knew of) https://android.stardew.rocks/

[tardy temple]

Had a weird idea for a mod idk how feasible it is especially since I have no experience.
Essentially I would overhaul slime hutches. I would make each slime like a farm animal where it can be pet, named and etc… it won’t attack anymore as a bonus. They cannot breed to make new colors (I have a better idea) but you can still breed them to get “swirly” slimes where they are instead two colors half and half. Why? Because then you can feed optionally feed them sugar for a candy item that produces different food buffs based off the slimes color(s)

How realistic is this from the perspective of people who know what they’re doing. Cannot emphasize enough I have no idea what I’m doing

[woeful lintel]

C# hell

[gaunt orbit]

some parts are easier than others. to make them into farm animals, you could essentially just add new farm animals that look like slimes and replace the slime hutch so regular slimes can't get put in it. (though if you did this, you would need to add another way to unlock the incubator and slime egg drops.) This would be low difficulty

you would need c# for the candy idea, and for the swirly slimes. That part is probably moderate difficulty.

[tardy temple]

Hm so maybe not then

[gaunt orbit]

If you don't feel ready for it now, I wouldn't abandon the idea completely, just put it on the backburner until you have a better idea of what you're doing

sometimes letting an idea sit can help figure it out anyways

[tardy temple]

No the issue is I’m just ass with code. I can learn it but I can’t use it well

[woeful lintel]

Maybe you can write a detailed description of your idea to the mod submission list and someone could pick it up

don't remember where that is tho

[gaunt orbit]

!modideas

[ocean sail]

If you have a mod idea that you aren't planning to make yourself, you can put it in the mod ideas github: https://github.com/StardewModders/mod-ideas

However, this does not mean anyone is guaranteed to work on your idea—modders who are looking for ideas sometimes go through and work on what they find interesting off this list. If you want to pay someone to make your mod idea, there are a few people who do commissions (mostly art, sometimes code); you can ask around, search usernames for the word comms, or see !commissions.

To use this command, type !modideas.

[tardy temple]

I can do art I’m good with aesprite. I can try to learn how stardew is coded myself this would just be a long process just not sure diving into the deep end is right

[gaunt orbit]

in that case, why not try your hand at a furniture mod? those are mostly art, they're reasonably popular, and you can make them as big or small as you like

it's a great way to dip your toes in

[tardy temple]

Hmm maybe. I just need inspiration

[woeful lintel]

!! Furniture mentionned !!

[gaunt orbit]

@rancid musk is it possible to use More Nightly Events to do custom junimo cutscenes?

[rancid musk]

It should be, as long as you write it like an event

[gaunt orbit]

bah, that's what I was afraid of

WorldChangeEvent has some secret sauce that's a PITA to do via manual scripting

maybe I can just subclass it

[lucid iron]

Personally i think slime farm animals are cool and fun

[ornate moon]

how can i chang the mizu's turkey mod to be in a coop, i changed it so that it can be placed into a big coop but now it ain't showing, like totally invisible

[lucid iron]

They can still drop slimes

[ornate moon]

i also tried to change their width and height so that they can get out of a coop

[tardy temple]

Thanks

Unless this isn’t referencing my idea to make them like chickens functionally

[fossil osprey]

Someone made a mod doing exactly that, if you want to look how they did it: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/33514

[ornate moon]

thaanks!

[lucid iron]

Yeah and while you can't really do breeding (farm animals do not have genders) you can make them drop rarer eggs with low chance

That you can incubate

Slime hutches are somewhat hardcoded but there is a framework to let you raise other monsters

[tardy temple]

I would figure, they’re the only building slimes would have to check if water is available in and then do stuff to place slime balls

[lucid iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/31782

[tardy temple]

Hm

[round timber]

                        {
                            "Id": "{{ModId}}_SpiritsEve",
                            "Portrait": "Portraits/{{Honeyfuggle}}_SpiritsEve",
                            "Sprite": "Characters/{{Honeyfuggle}}_SpiritsEve",
                            "Condition": "IS_EVENT festival_fall_27",
                            "Precendence": -200,
                            "Weight": 0
                        }
                    ],```
is this GSQ incorrect or something :( NPC isnt wearing the outfit but i also dont see any errors in the log

aghh it is

festival_fall27 not festival_fall_27 🫠

[lucid iron]

debug gq GSQ_HERE

[calm nebula]

Don't use weight=0

[round timber]

ok

based it off what i saw another mod do

[calm nebula]

This was a mistake in the game code that people copied incorrectly tbh

When you're doing weighted lists you need to enforce weight > 0

[round timber]

oof

noted

[karmic gust]

So I'm in the process of converting everything to support i18n, using the converter, and went to test the events to ensure they were working correctly. The heart events all loaded correctly, but the wedding events didn't. I reloaded the original event and it played fine, so I tried converting it again and smapi said the event could not be found again. Any ideas why 1 out of 5 events wouldn't load correctly?

Here is the updated json with the i18n events:
https://smapi.io/json/none/5aa337607e0d434ebac5f6ced6d43743

Here is the original json:
https://smapi.io/json/none/125751a6f83b41909860ab7b0ac228ba

And here is the smapi log:
https://smapi.io/log/81b87ae4e9bf4e5196fca384ba8760dc

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Unix 6.5.0.23, with 15 C# mods and 1 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them, SMAPI is out of date, consider updating it

[round timber]

i had something similar happen to me before, its because of the {{ImportToken}} thing that, in your case, replaced {{day}} and {{season}}. i think to fix it you have to pass the token through like this (and remove the {{ImportToken}}) textAboveHead Caroline \"{{i18n:FourHeart.12 |playerName={{PlayerName}} }}\". my experience with this is limited though so i could definitely be wrong and defer to anyone who knows better

[karmic gust]

Thank you for the help!

[ornate moon]

does the animalsqueezethrough mod work with livestock bazaar? i already set up my string so that the turkey lives in the coop, but when i installed it, it lives in the barn again

i also can't put my turkey in either a barn or a coop because of the livestock UI

[lucid iron]

Livestock Bazaar is just a menu it obeys whatever the data says

You will have to do a patch export Data/FarmAnimals

Also try disabling your own edits first

[little siren]

this is really silly but where can i find fish sprites in the files? I looked thru every folder in my unpacked content folder but am struggling to find it

[calm nebula]

Maps/springobjects

[little siren]

thank you!

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #6392 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/960705681906860052)

[lucid iron]

Atra archeology

[mild dagger]

the springobjects curse strikes again

[rare orbit]

any idea which username is dolphinisnotafish from nexus? i wanna ask for permission related to their marniner replacement mod!

[rigid musk]

their name in the server is also that

[rare orbit]

oh cool

i would've @ them but idk if they are cool with that or not

i mainly ask too since their mod which replaces the marnier with a mermaid... it turns out that the seasonal pendants will fit on the farmer's portrait made by jupm pretty seamlessly! i tried to make the pendants myself.... but they did not look right. at all..

[rigid musk]

they're fine with pings iirc

ive pinged them before

[rare orbit]

cool! i did dm em as well but i'll ping em!

@devout otter mind if i either reference the seasonal mermaid pendants or use them from the original mod? i am helping JuPm out by sliding over some personal edits i did for an update to their farmer portrait-nyapu styled mod

and i found out through testing that they fit on the farmer wonderfully

[ornate moon]

does market day mod still work? it's totally bogged on mine. and i already got the 1 for 1.6

[lucid iron]

That's more of a #modded-stardew question tbh

I believe there's an unofficial update for that, i do not know if it works properly

[lucid iron]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[lucid iron]

Also !log

[rich seal]

Question; I've made an egg item, a mayonnaise item, and a recipe for it to go from egg to mayonnaise. Problem is, it turned into vanilla mayo rather than the mayo it's supposed to. I'm at a loss here, as I thought I covered all my bases. Anyone able to troubleshoot this for me? (item and related are at the bottom)
https://smapi.io/json/none/070e4c949b904907a3213655f8ea2b89

[uncut viper]

did you move your machine output entry to the top of the list

[rich seal]

I don't know what you mean. What list am I supposed to be moving to the top of?

[brittle pasture]

machine rules evaluate from top to bottom, and your rule is at the bottom and below the vanilla "all egg to mayo" rule

you need to use MoveEntries and move your Campaigner.snailcrabMayonnaiseRecipe to the top of OutputRules

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editdata.md#moving-list-entries

it can be done in the same block as your entry that adds the rule

[rich seal]

Sorry, had a small emergency crop up after I posted (it's fine now, thankfully). I followed the guide and got my mayo to work, woo! Thanks for the link to that page. Didn't know I had to avoid some rule at all with the mayo machine lol

Though I probably shouldn't have copied ostrich. 10 mayo was too much lol

To change the output amount, that's minstack right? Edit: It was. Wish it said amount instead lol

[brittle pasture]

it's cuz theres also MaxStack

[golden basin]

so i figured out a way to spawn a npc in the farmhouse withuot being married or rommated to them

only issue im encounting now is they will not walk a schedule

even with the map saying npcs can path there, and even when i add a npc warp for them they dont walk

I DID IT

[lucid iron]

Watch out for modded farmhouses

[golden basin]

oh i know thats why the warp will be in the spouse room

also the mod is sort of for me right now idk if itll be released

ooooooooo im dancin

[twin wadi]

in an event, how do i give an item based on season? for example, i want to give a seasonal flower.

[golden basin]

you can make a dynamic token

i can write out a example

[valid folio]

Hi, how are you? I have a quick question — do you know how to use Portraiture Plus? I'm not quite sure how it works. If you know of a mod that uses it as an example, that would be really helpful too.

[twin wadi]

oh okay! thank you i think i know how

[golden basin]

   {
"Name": "SeasonalFlower",//Spring
 "Value": "ITEM ID",
"When": {
"Season": "Spring", 
}
},
   {
"Name": "SeasonalFlower",//Summer
 "Value": "ITEM ID",
"When": {
"Season": "Summer", 
}
},
   {
"Name": "SeasonalFlower",//Fall
 "Value": "ITEM ID",
"When": {
"Season": "Fall", 
}
},
   {
"Name": "SeasonalFlower",//Winter
 "Value": "ITEM ID",
"When": {
"Season": "Winter", 
}
},
],```

and you palce the toek {{SeasonalFlower}} in the id part of your event command

token*

[rare orbit]

i might need to know too

for Portraiture Plus

cause i was told that using portraiture plus might be better given my current art style

[brittle pasture]

you can look at its dependents on the Requirement tab

[valid folio]

I know how to install it, but I don't know how to configure it so that the portraits are seasonal. I want to change the portraits in a mod to learn how to do this.

[brittle pasture]

I meant the mods that use it

[ornate trellis]

it directly states it in the mod description

[twin wadi]

thank you so much!!! this helps a lot

[ornate trellis]

this cant be any clearer tbh

[valid folio]

Yes, I looked but only found one, and it doesn't have seasonal portraits. I also don't really understand the explanation in the Portraiture Plus description

[brittle pasture]

Remember what you did before? That's number 15 on that list

[valid folio]

Yes, but I don't really understand it. I don't know what exact data goes there or where to get it from. I'm not a programmer, I'm just someone trying to learn how to make things for mods.

[brittle pasture]

(also this looks a lot more than 1)

[ornate trellis]

nothing to do with prgramming

[golden basin]

I dont know much about this mod but there are mods that do this too, you can look at the mods that do it to see hwo its done

[ornate trellis]

you jsut naem the file differently and it shows you how exactly it needs to be name

[brittle pasture]

basically, just drop the pngs in the same place you dropped your base portraiture portrait but name it differently

[golden basin]

I think the hang up is how is this implemented through the code of the mod?

let me go look at the mod i bet I could help

[ornate trellis]

goddamnit i hate how i was replying and lost half of it because my antivirus program suddenly wanted to run and tabbed me out of discord :I

[brittle pasture]

they made a Portraiture mod before, I helped them with it
the procedure is the same, but instead of NpcName.png you do NpcName_Rain.png for rain portrait

or NpcName_Winter_Indoor.png for indoor winter portrait

[golden basin]

Hmm how do you tell your mod where your assets are does the mod automatically know?

[brittle pasture]

you don't, you need to (tell the users to) drop the pngs into Portraiture's folder

that's my main hangup with Portraiture tbh

no content pack support

[golden basin]

Oooo I see and the mod will be able to read what each namesake means from that?

[brittle pasture]

yes

[ornate trellis]

tho it does state this on the mod page so idk

After 1.06 you could use "ContentPackFor": {"UniqueID": "Arborsm.PortraiturePlus"} in manifest.json to make Portraiture find png in that folder now,
the game will traverse all png files in that directory and attempt to add them to the game

unless that doesnt work

[brittle pasture]

hmm interesting

but well, one step at a time
make the pngs first

[golden basin]

Im struggling to write out a full cohesive explanation for this.

So it's like this right?

By following the naming method shown above, you can place your assets into the portraiture mod and the mod itself will read and apply the seasonals based on the namesake by default?

[valid folio]

Sure, I was looking for mods that use Portraiture Plus to see how the images were named, but the one I found only uses a single image as a portrait.

[golden basin]

now how to you seperate walksprites from the portraits?

[brittle pasture]

yes

portraiture doesnt do walk sprites

it's portraits only

[golden basin]

Oh I see so it's strictly for portraits, so any walksprites need to be applied via content patcher?

So example then.

Lyell_Spring

Would be the spring portrait name that I drop into the portraiture folder inside the portraiture mod?

Oh good so @valid folio does the conversation above help at all?

[valid folio]

It's really hard for me to follow the conversation on my phone because I can't see well. I'll check it later from the computer when I'm back at it, thanks.

[golden basin]

would you like me to DM you?

so you dont lose the info

[devout otter]

Hi, do you mean that you want to use the designs of the seasonal pendants? The seasonal pendants were originally made by Rosenbug for her mod here, so it’d be best to reach out to her for permission.

[rare orbit]

ohh ok!

[golden basin]

I think compiling a list of questions to ask new modders might be a good idea? it could help us help them. a lot of stuff new makers wouldnt know what certain words mean. and sometimes even context when related to topics and methods of mod making could be confusing?

It can be confusing and discouraging, esp cause sometimes new comers dont know what questions to ask or how to phrase questions either.

and also sometimes repeatly teaching is needed, I had to be taught like 3 different times to learn cause of my brain injury

[rare orbit]

i need this too! im relatively new and modding is hard ;-;

[golden basin]

@ me whenever you need help nikki, i dont know about all the frameworks or how to do everything but I can help anyway I can

[rare orbit]

thank u ;w;

[golden basin]

of course!

what type of mod are you making?

[rare orbit]

right now im working on a recipe mod for my bf's birthday

[rigid oriole]

Sometimes I'm tempted to make a "content patcher for absolute beginners" tutorial but I feel like every tutorial will have holes in it no matter how hard i try

[rare orbit]

i am testing it out and i think i got it right

[golden basin]

Ooo that's a pretty easy thing to do actyally!

[rare orbit]

please do

[peak isle]

im not really new or have a brain injury i am just stupid. documentation is a God send

[rare orbit]

i am begging you please do

[golden basin]

it doesnt matter if there are holes, what matters is the holes that some have you can fill

[uncut viper]

i swear ill get back to my tutorials one day too. after cmf,

[rare orbit]

mind if i dm you the files? i only got 1 item in it but i had to use a few mods as dependencies!

[golden basin]

teaching modding is also a little difficult because you cant just teach mod making. A lot of what people will learn will be a single thing

[rigid oriole]

i swear i'll write tutorials after i update my existing mods, release my WIP, and life is no longer busy

[golden basin]

sure dm me your files and if you can explain what all you have done so far

Mod creation is such a broad hobby, someone who makes npcs will have a different skill set from someone who makes crops

[peak isle]

the hard part of teaching modding is how much just seems to be digging. i also thought about making a video about making mods but then i realized that beyond the bare bones ModEntry class or content.json, 96% of what I am doing every time I work on a mod is scouring the source code/content 😭

[rigid oriole]

Tutorials do work best when it's for a very specific thing ya

[rare orbit]

true that

and that's just using vanilla items

[rich seal]

Question; where is the crab pot's possible loot located? I can't find it in any data file.

[brittle pasture]

hardcoded

[rich seal]

Really? Big oof.

[brittle pasture]

you can add new crabpot fish, and it will be added to the pool

[rich seal]

Oh. That's what I'm after!

[tawny ore]

Do we not have a dehardcoding CrabPots framework yet?

[brittle pasture]

[[Modding:Fish]] in that case

woops

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Fish_data

[brittle pasture]

tbh adding new fish is good enough 99% of the time

[rich seal]

I think I worded it wrong. That's for adding new fish, right? I just wanted to add a single item to the crab pot's loot table 😦

[latent mauve]

I've started and stopped making an image-based tutorial trying to explain how Content Patcher works as opposed to the unsupported XNB mods about a dozen times.

[brittle pasture]

yes, you add a new fish following the "crab pot" format

[tawny ore]

I'm just genuinely surprised it hasn't been created yet since there are quite a few frameworks handling most of the hardcoded things left in the game.

For anyone wanting to write yet another framework, there's an opportunity here

I for one can't wait to get duck mayo out of crab pots

[rich seal]

So if I just wanted to add say Bomb to crab pots, I just follow the guide on adding a new fish, but use Bomb's ID instead of a modded ID?

[valid folio]

Ok, please

[brittle pasture]

no one likes crab pots 😌
there are 294631 new fish mods, but like 2 of them adds new pot drops

[rich seal]

It hurts to be a crab pot enthusiast

[tawny ore]

I like Crab Pots when I play with Automate, which is not very often

[golden basin]

omw

[rich seal]

I just like having shrimp fish tanks. Love my little fellas.

So, looking at Fish.json, I noticed trash like driftwood isn't on the list. Is trash loot handled elsewhere?

[calm nebula]

Yeah

[brittle pasture]

maybe? worth a try probably

[rare orbit]

https://smapi.io/json/none/1c4e22e1d8a8481d921aead3a9145e04
anything i need to fix with this?? do i need to do the same for the eggs?? like if im using mods that add egg laying animals? not as a dependency but more as if ya wanna use em ya can

[brittle pasture]

I think the most I will bother with is a weighted table of additional drops where if an entry matches, the crab pot's loot for that day will be that item instead of the vanilla item

could be part of MTF once > 2 people request it

[valid folio]

I'm going to write down how I understood I should name one of the image files, as if it were the one I’ll use for fall:

{NPC Name}{Location Name}{season}.png

ichortower.HatMouseLacey_Lacey_{Location Name}_fall.png

I left part of it blank because I’m not sure what value corresponds there.

[golden basin]

you need to make it more like this

ichortower.HatMouseLaceyLacey_{Location Name}_fall.png

[lucid iron]

I thought MTF let u do that

[golden basin]

thats only if youre making a location only outfit though

[brittle pasture]

on a glance that looks fine to me, feel free to test

[brittle pasture]

not vanilla crab pots

[rare orbit]

kk!

[lucid iron]

You can put a mayo on the water

[golden basin]

if you only want fall it would be

ichortower.HatMouseLaceyLacey_Fall

[brittle pasture]

(minor correction it's ichortower.HatMouseLacey_Lacey_Fall)

(Discord eated the first underscore in their original message)

[golden basin]

ooo i see

[gaunt orbit]

It kills me that nobody's taking advantage of the fact that you can have custom crab pot fish pools in different locations.

[valid folio]

Got it, thank you sooo much! I’ll try it out in a bit and let you know if everything worked or if something exploded, haha.

@golden basin and @brittle pasture

[brittle pasture]

VMV does (it's one of the 2 mods I mentioned)

[ornate trellis]

crab pot fish is what i plan doing for my island at some point :3c

[brittle pasture]

the other is Cornucopia which adds salt to beach

[valid folio]

I have to finish a translation before I can start editing the images—well, actually, the image names.

[lucid iron]

Yeah but apparently the rate is tragically low

[rigid oriole]

I coulda sworn they patched the rate

[brittle pasture]

it still has to compete with other vanilla fish which gets checked earlier

but yeah it did get bumped up

it used to be .1, which in practice is like .01 or something because of vanilla fishies. .6 now

(I actually can't tell if that helped because I play with Mariner in my current save, which throws all those numbers out the window)

[calm nebula]

Clearly you should framework it