making-mods-general

[umbral plume]

oh wait i probably need a clean save dont i

i loaded a game file but it was the standard farmhouse instead of my modded one

[golden basin]

I have discovered how to make a custom incubator would yall be interested in learning

[ivory plume]

(Feel free to post it! Could be useful for anyone looking to do that later.)

[ivory plume]

Can you...

1. load the save;
2. enter patch summary in the SMAPI console window;
3. and post your new SMAPI log via smapi.io/log?

[umbral plume]

https://smapi.io/log/6f95676b5d5843f9b102d29316885739 @ivory plume

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 95 C# mods and 161 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[ivory plume]

Seems the map file is failing to load:

Unhandled exception applying patch: Simplest Farmhouse Adjustment > EditMap Maps/FarmHouse1.
[...] Unable to load map with file path 'C:\Users\alexj\AppData\Roaming\Stardrop\Data\Selected Mods[CP] Simplest Farmhouse Adjustment\assets\SFarmHouse1.tmx'
[...] Could not find a part of the path 'C:\Users\New folder\Maps\bathhouse_tiles.tsx'.

There's some weird stuff going on with your tilesheet path; can you post the SFarmHouse1.tmx file here?

[umbral plume]

oh...I was just messing with it with the kitchen standing point thing

but it wasnt loading before that

[ivory plume]

The issue is that the tilesheet paths look like this:

 <tileset firstgid="3217" source="../../../../../../../../New folder/Maps/bathhouse_tiles.tsx"/>

You can't use ../ to traverse the filesystem that way (normally SMAPI is supposed to have an error for that, but maybe it's not working for .tsx files). You need to copy the tilesheets into the same folder as the map file, and reference them from there.

See this section of Modding:Maps to fix that.

[umbral plume]

i just realized i dont have the tilesheet in the folder because i used the vanilla bathhouse tilesheet for the bathroom

should I move a copy from the other vanilla tilesheets to the folder too while im at it?

[ocean sail]

@umbral plume You leveled up to Cowpoke. You can now speak in our voice channels and share images in all channels!

[ivory plume]

You'll need to do it for all the tilesheets referenced by the map. I suggest adding the dot for vanilla tilesheets, as suggested by those steps.

[lucid iron]

!tilesheetclimbing

[ocean sail]

When creating or editing maps in Tiled, one common error is tilesheet climbing, marked by red text containing "invalid tilesheet path '../../..'. This is caused by SMAPI not being able to find the tilesheets needed by the map file. To prevent this error, make sure that you have a copy of all necessary tilesheets in the folder containing your WIP tmx file. Copies of vanilla tilesheets can later be deleted, but must be present while working on your map.

If you get this error with a completed map, an easy way to fix it is to open your tmx file in VS Code or a similar text editor, find all of the places with <image source=, and remove the filepaths to so that only the tilesheet names remain. For example, if the code says <image source="Content (unpacked)/Maps/townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>, change it to just <image source="townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>.

To use this command, type !tilesheetclimbing.

[umbral plume]

ooohhhhh yeah makes sense, i had the maps with the tilesheets when i was making them but then i moved the maps into the mods folder to test it

[lucid iron]

-# DH when grandpa's tiled

[rough lintel]

using the c# players guide to refamiliarize myself with c# and im having so much fun making silly console programs

[umbral plume]

wait

the vanilla farmhouse is still there but my log doesnt have errors

https://smapi.io/log/ee99eab1a8214cb78a5672eef72b35d0

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 95 C# mods and 162 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[woeful lintel]

I've seen tilesheet climbing errors so many times in here... And yet I know for sure that it will happen to me as well the instant I try to make a custom map!

[lucid iron]

it's a rite of passage

[umbral plume]

I thought I cleaned the climbing errors out T_T

[lucid iron]

for future ref can you get a smaller log pls

[umbral plume]

smapi log?

[lucid iron]

yea run less mods when you test

itll be easier to figure out why it no work when less variables are involved

anyways going by the trace logs none of your edits were tried

https://smapi.io/log/ee99eab1a8214cb78a5672eef72b35d0?Levels=trace~debug~info~warn~error~alert~critical&Filter=maeniia.SimplestFarmhouseAdjustment

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 95 C# mods and 162 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[umbral plume]

i wonder if the cellar mod is conflicting gimme 5 to try it

[lucid iron]

for reference this is what edits applying look like on the trace log https://smapi.io/log/ee99eab1a8214cb78a5672eef72b35d0?Levels=trace~debug~info~warn~error~alert~critical&Filter=Distant Lands - Witch Swamp Overhaul

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 95 C# mods and 162 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[rough lintel]

learning about prefix and postfix notation. feeling very intelligent up in making mods general tonight

soon i will make more c# mods

[lucid iron]

its time to choose lani

[rough lintel]

math in the smapi console coming soon

[lucid iron]

will you be harmony.Patch manual gang or harmony.PatchAll annotations gang

[rough lintel]

i am barely learning how to do math in c# please idk what a harmony is 💔

[lucid iron]

ah do you mean prefix and postfix like

[round timber]

all i know is that it can break things bigly

[rough lintel]

debug addmoney 2+1e or something idk

[lucid iron]

• 1 3
  5 2 +

[rough lintel]

YES chu yes

--a and a--

increment and decrement operators 🤣

[lucid iron]

dw i never remember whats the difference there

but habitually i always use i++

[rough lintel]

yeah me too

[brittle pasture]

there is a right answer btw

[rough lintel]

ok i got to chapter 10 tonight, its slepy time

chapter 10 starts with if statements omg guys.... we are almost to object oriented programming

random q: why does my code want everything to be nullable

[lucid iron]

well u enabled them

[rough lintel]

i be writing Item? woodObject

wait i what

[lucid iron]

<Nullable>enable</Nullable>

in ur csproj

[rough lintel]

i neva did that....

[lucid iron]

it's generally a good thing to have compiler precheck nullable stuff

if u disable these u get hit by it at runtime

[rough lintel]

ok true

[lucid iron]

ofc game itself is not consistent about it either

[rough lintel]

i just didnt know if the random ? was normal for everyone else

[lucid iron]

so sometimes a Item can be null and u gotta deal

if u dont like it u can turn it off and ill just go be sad in a corner

[rough lintel]

i dont want you to be sad

[uncut viper]

happy to learn you use PatchAll too

[brittle pasture]

if you make a variable and dont immediately assign it the ide will tell you to make it nullable

because it's just correcter™️

[rough lintel]

so true

[uncut viper]

(the actual right answer is of course "both" and im very confident everyone will agree on this of course)

[lucid iron]

the one time i used annotations i did it by accident and used it in the attribute class form

[uncut viper]

what's wrong with that

[lucid iron]

well it worked but i was basically call CreateReversePatcher

getting the patch processor used for annotation mode of reverse patch

[loud sandal]

Hey, I am new here and still learning - but I had a question about Harmony. I've been looking into it since it is a last resort to patch a mod, since reflection isn't enough. But what I wanted to ask was, is it better to use manual patching with Harmony if there's only like a handful of methods to patch? And then just use PatchAll sparingly? I just don't want there to be too much reflection overhead and things breaking. Does that sound right?

[lucid iron]

wow how topical

i think people here all have Strong opinions but honestly just use what vibes with you

PatchAll overhead is negligible in the grand scheme of things

the reason i used manual patch has little to do with reflection overhead and everything to do with liking the syntax more

[loud sandal]

Ok, I just didn't want to be stuck trying to fix it over and over since I am not a great coder haha

I'm a dry coder as well

[lucid iron]

i do think it's perhaps more clear, since you are call a regular ol method yourself

[loud sandal]

Ok thanks, I'll stick with manual then and try to get more experience with it over time

[lucid iron]

(i never heard of the term dry coder though)

[loud sandal]

Oh.. I repeat lines a lot, it helps me see the coder more clearly

some people don't like it

[lucid iron]

repeat lines

just general dislike of automagic things i guess?

[loud sandal]

I've never been able to fully grasp coding, not the way others do. I feel weird about it lol

I need to have it a certain way lol

[lucid iron]

Whatever floats the boat

[umbral plume]

https://smapi.io/log/a218b28ca356458ab2f0cc352cdeba1d

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 66 C# mods and 86 content packs.

[loud sandal]

Thanks for the advice for Harmony, I saw you all talking about it before and thought I'd ask lol

[umbral plume]

tried to make the log shorter @lucid iron

its not even picking up the bathroom tilesheets now

oh wait

duh the first upgrade doesnt use the bathroom tiles only the second does

[lucid iron]

Looks like it edited Farmhouse1 this time

[umbral plume]

either way, its still not loading in the game

[lucid iron]

But earlier when i said less mods I mean like

[umbral plume]

i didnt wanna disable to big ones

but i can

[lucid iron]

Just content patcher and your mod plus various debugging mods like data layers and console commands

!modgroups

[ocean sail]

See this link for how to load different mod groups: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Getting_Started#Can_I_have_different_mod_groups.3F

To use this command, type !modgroups.

[lucid iron]

You can separate the playing modlist from the testing list with this

I am sleep though, so I won't be able to help further for now

[umbral plume]

https://smapi.io/log/677b7eace4d34c7d8b7f2bcdd5029d55

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 1 C# mods and 1 content packs.

[fallow grotto]

what is that?

[lucid iron]

So yeah it does look like Farmhouse1 gets edited

What exactly do you see in game & what do you expect to see?

[umbral plume]

I see the default first upgraded house and I expect to see the one I made. Do you need the tmx files?

[lucid iron]

What did you name your layers?

Also take a map wide screenshot in game n send it here

[umbral plume]

I used the vanilla map and edited it so they layers should be the same name

[lucid iron]

Pls do that then

Another thing you can do is patch export Maps/Farmhouse1

You can look at this exported version and compare it to your wip

[umbral plume]

this is the current and what I expect to see is the next image

[lucid iron]

Hm try loading over Farmhouse2 entirely

Er farmhouse1

[umbral plume]

uhhhhhhh....after using patch export maps/farmhouse1 and opening it in tiled

i got a weird picture

lemme send it

i think its trying to load both

[lucid iron]

Ah i guess your Rectangle is wrong

ToArea wayyy over there

[umbral plume]

how do i even fix that

[lucid iron]

You need to put right numbers basically

[umbral plume]

oh i used the wrong x y width and height?

[lucid iron]

I forgot what exactly your FromArea and ToArea were

Yeah

[umbral plume]

dammit

[lucid iron]

You can check coords in game with debug mode

And reload in game with patch reload <your mod id>

[umbral plume]

heres the coords i have

in the json

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/e272ba25303b4b27946361fb60d6b5c2

[lucid iron]

Yeah these are very large where are you reading these numbers

Remember that 0,0 is top left corner

[umbral plume]

i used those numbers

which i realize now was a mistake

[lucid iron]

Yeah those r pixels

[fiery cobalt]

https://smapi.io/json/none/0e41441739da40b59c677083028be234

https://smapi.io/json/none/ebbc0b71274a4487999059945d03a2e0

[lucid iron]

The tile coordinates are on the status bar, bottom left

[fiery cobalt]

I want the ?? to have the description any idea how?

[umbral plume]

but width and height are right? @lucid iron

[hard fern]

Did you actually give your recipe a description

[lucid iron]

No

[umbral plume]

dammiit

[lucid iron]

16 and 16 is the literal pixel size of rhe tile

[umbral plume]

so the width and height of the map in pixels?

so if its 0,0 to 0,11 then 11 would be the height

[lucid iron]

No 16 is the tile pixel size

People can and do use tiled with other tile pixel sizes

The FromArea and ToArea should all be tiles, you can find out how big with select tool

[umbral plume]

FromArea and ToArea of the map that I'm replacing it with?

[lucid iron]

Hm

I realized a problem

You cannot use EditMap to extend a map to the left or top

To do what you want Load is the only option

[umbral plume]

I was trying to replace the vanilla map T_T

[lucid iron]

Yeah just do a Load targeting the Maps/Farmhouse1 asset

EditMap is usually used to put a small change into a larger map rather than replacing whole thing

[umbral plume]

The contentpatcher guide said it reccommended editmap over load so i thought the safer choice was editmap

ill try rewriting in load instead

[lucid iron]

It's about what your desire is for mod

Like i doubt you expect any sort of compatibility with other farmhouse mods so Load is fine

For mod that only want to add a shop that's like maybe 2 files large then EditMap is the correct choice

[fiery cobalt]

Vanilla has them

[umbral plume]

sorry for keeping you awake @lucid iron ❤️

[hard fern]

Yes vanilla has them but do you

As in, when putting in the data for your recipe

Because i think you're just flat out missing a descr6

6

[drowsy pewter]

(It comes from the object data btw)

[hard fern]

....

I can't spell today

[umbral plume]

it did it again 😠

[fiery cobalt]

lol

"LotsOfRecipes_BaconandEggs": "666 1 -5 2//LotsOfRecipes_BaconandEggs/i18n:BaconandEggs_Name/",

[umbral plume]

doont mind me im having a moment lol

[drowsy pewter]

Remove the name field, you dont need it and its written incorrectly

"Cornucopia_FruitNectar": "634 1 340 1/25 5/Cornucopia_FruitNectar/none/",

[umbral plume]

i forgot to actually change the mod in the unmodded folder too

OH SHT

UM

I now don't have a farmhouse at all

[hard fern]

Ub on

[umbral plume]

um

[hard fern]

:wo

[umbral plume]

why did it decide to add custom tile properties to "@flip" and "@rotate"

[hard fern]

I am... Not sure

[umbral plume]

I have many concerns

[hard fern]

....

Ok well

[umbral plume]

IT MESSED THEM ALL UP

[hard fern]

I know some of it should be for wallpaper/flooring i believe

[umbral plume]

IT MESSED THOSE UP

I HAD THEM

uggghhhh

[hard fern]

get rid of them all and remake them?

[umbral plume]

dear smapi pls stop auto customizing my tiles thanks boo

[umbral plume]

yep

then pray

and reload

[hard fern]

🤔 im thinking og making "useless books" aka cooks that serve no gameplay function other than just little trinkets....

But idk how fun that would actually be

and i also just want to draw books

Since i still feel like the game doesn't have enough variety when it comes to non-food gifts...

[umbral plume]

:0

A library maybe?

A LOST LIBRARY

THE MUSEUM USED TO BE A LIBRARY A LONG TIME AGO AND IT WENT TO RUINS AND THATS WHY YOU FIND RANDOM LIBRARY BOOKS AROUDN

[devout otter]

Well we already have Lost Books in vanilla.

But I do wish for some kind of framework where you can do custom book collecting for the museum.

[umbral plume]

whats the console command for coordinates cause i found my farmhouse map after wandering the void for a bit lmao

I either need to move the cellar entrance and warp point, or readjust the whole house map

anyone online to give me a hand

[devout otter]

Should be debug ppp.

You also may want to have this to make debugging easier: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/679

[umbral plume]

i need to figure out how to either change the coords of the cellar and house entrance or move the map i made to line up with the vanilla coords

[drowsy pewter]

@distant radish Cornucopia machines will now load all the i18n strings to a file called Cornucopia.ArtisanMachines/i18n, so you can refer to it like any vanilla strings file

[ebon thistle]

hi, can anyone help me figure out whats going wrong with this animated well AT mod Im working on? Ive tried using the standard variation format, Ive compared it to other mods, and I cant figure out what Im doing wrong, Im sure its something silly though 😅
currently it works but it loads all the frames side by side as if they were one big texture...

{
    "ItemName": "Well",
    "Type": "Building",
    "TextureWidth": 48,
    "TextureHeight": 80,
    "ManualVariations": [
        {
            "Id": 0,
            "Animation": [
                {
                    "Frame": 0,
                    "Duration": 100
                },
                {
                    "Frame": 1,
                    "Duration": 100
                },
                {
                    "Frame": 2,
                    "Duration": 100
                },
                {
                    "Frame": 3,
                    "Duration": 100
                },
                {
                    "Frame": 4,
                    "Duration": 100
                },
                {
                    "Frame": 5,
                    "Duration": 100
                }
            ]
        }
    ]
}```
(Im using manual variations because I planned on making an alt without animation) this is my first time making a mod for this game and Im still a bit lost, so sorry for bothering if this is a stupid problem

Ive tried searching for this problem and I cant find anything helpful, I even looked at how other mods do animations, have tried different formats, and it just keeps loading the textures side by side

[distant radish]

Got it! I will change it for the next version of MPS

[woeful lintel]

What is the proper way to parse a Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Point inside JsonConverter.ReadJson? I thought that this would do the trick:

if (reader.TokenType == JsonToken.StartObject)
{
  Point value = JObject.Load(reader).Value<Point>()
  ... // Do stuff with the parsed point
}

but I get an error saying "Cannot cast Newtonsoft.Json.Linq.JObject to Newtonsoft.Json.Linq.JToken."

Also tried this:

Point value = Point.Zero;
serializer.Populate(JObject.Load(reader).CreateReader(), value);

but it simply doesn't populate the Point: value is still Point.Zero at the end.

[mighty ginkgo]

hey, i haven't used AT but looks like Animation is not supported for buildings https://github.com/Floogen/AlternativeTextures/wiki/Creating-a-Content-Pack#adding-texture-variation

[ebon thistle]

oh my goodness, how did I miss this line... 🤦‍♀️ thank you so much for the help, I am sorry for the trouble

[woeful lintel]

my dumbass forgot the existence of JObject.ToObject<T>

[ebon thistle]

guess Ill just redraw the well as static then

[mighty ginkgo]

don't worry about it. if it doesn't have to be an AT pack specifically i think it's possible to make it animated with Content Patcher

[ebon thistle]

ohh Ill look into that then

[somber cipher]

With the unofficial update ??

[ebon thistle]

Im doing this as a part of a buildings retexture mod, thought AT could do animations so I was going to do an AT addon with extra options, including the animated well, but I could just put it in the main CP pack

[mighty ginkgo]

i'm not sure what unofficial update you mean, but i meant just that native buildings have support for animations via DrawLayers https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Buildings

[somber cipher]

When you go to the Content Patcher Animation mod page, a very kind user made an unofficial update

[mighty ginkgo]

ah i see

[fading walrus]

I suggest simply using normal Content Patcher instead of CPA for most things though

[woeful sandal]

hi, i'm currently trying to understand how mods for Fashion Sense work - i want to make an accessory and for it to be visible when player is facing the camera (basically to have front back left and right positions). is there a parameter which will draw the accessory behind the player without the whole thing showing and overlapping the player sprite, or does this work in a whole separate way?

[frosty hull]

Hello guy!, i have question
where can i modify mod src code for feature "Farm Layout Selector"?
because i want to modify insert new farm layout to this menu for android

[spice inlet]

that is the CharacterCustomization menu

might want to check the LoadFarmTypeData function

in 1.5.6 stardew for android used a very different menu though

[frosty hull]

Ah thanks, now i found it

[storm patrol]

Hey everybody. A few days ago I asked about commissioning someone to create a mod for me. Now I want to warn you about the users Alex (katanabeller) and Ella meldrum (johnjames0672_47317). I was contacted via DM, we agreed on a price, I payed in full upfront and now they want more money, don`t do any work and refuse to give my money back. Of course I will report them but I wanted to warn you guys as well.

[vernal crest]

I think you should message Bouncer to tell the moderators about this.

[storm patrol]

Will do. Thank you.

[vernal crest]

Unfortunately scammers targeting people on discord is pretty common. I've had quite a few people messaging me to try to sell me "their" artwork (including today, in fact). I'm sorry it happened to you.

[storm patrol]

I only use discord every once in a blue moon and wasn not aware of this so I guess the joke`s on me this time..

[lucid mulch]

I have dm's turned off almost everywhere, they are pretty much exclusively used for scams anyway outside of the sight of server moderation

[vernal crest]

I have DMs turned on for everything and everyone but if someone I don't already know messages me I check our mutual servers to see what messages they have sent. If none or only spammy ones, I just delete the request.

[chrome mountain]

Hi Hadi

[thin lake]

When making a mod, what's the first recommend thing to do?/genq

[vernal crest]

!startmodding Usually we direct people to these places when they start out. Familiarising yourself with the content pack you intend to use if content pack modding is probably a good start.

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[thin lake]

I'm making a CP mod, I was just wonder if like... Starting with programing? Or base location? (Where the mod is going to be on the map)

[vernal crest]

Have you done any CP modding so far? Edited other people's mods for personal use or anything? If you haven't start by doing something very small. Edit a line of dialogue or a portrait or something.

[thin lake]

Nope, I kinda been working on a personal CP mod on and off. But what you mentioned sounds like a very good idea

[vernal crest]

Yeah, starting by learning how to actually make changes happen in the game is always a good starting point. Then once you understand what a patch is, what Action to use to get your changes in game, etc, you can start wherever you want to on creating the mod itself. I am making an NPC mod and I jump around between writing dialogue, drawing portraits/sprites, map making, making schedules, writing events, scripting the events, and so on.

[thin lake]

I have started the foundation of the mod folder, I just haven't gotten down to the specific detailing yet. I do however have a few sprites/portraits but nothing to specific done as far as tying NPCs to pathing

[vernal crest]

Whatever you do, though, I really strongly recommend that you focus on getting it working in game at a basic level before you put more work into it. So if it's a portrait, put a placeholder in before drawing the whole portrait. If it's a map, make a small change to a vanilla map and put that in game before continuing work on it, etc. It's much easier to troubleshoot small changes, especially when you're still trying to understand what each of the json bits actually do.

[vernal crest]

What do you mean by tying NPCs to pathing?

[thin lake]

I mean, sechduling. My bad. I woke up an hour ago so it takes awhile for my brain to wake up

[vernal crest]

Ah I see. So your NPC is already in game, just doesn't have a schedule?

[thin lake]

By placeholder you mean like... Puting a joja can as an NPC portrait?

[thin lake]

Kinda... I got like 10 more to do

[vernal crest]

I usually take a vanilla portrait file and scribble all over it lol

[thin lake]

Ohhhhhh

[vernal crest]

Ah, apologies! Your initial question made me think you were just thinking about starting out, not already partway through the process. So I've been responding as though you had nothing but ideas so far.

[thin lake]

Actually I am starting out, but like... I have the basics foundation for the mods folder, username, name of the mod, version, etc things like that. I still have a a lot more things I need to get done

[vernal crest]

That's way more than most people who ask that question have lol

Most people have a thought and maybe some notes written in a word doc or something

[vernal crest]

I recommend getting all the basic parts for one NPC in place (even if just mostly as placeholders) before starting more NPCs, since once you know how to do one you will be able to do the others just by copying and pasting what you did for the first one and then editing values.

(If you aren't already doing that, I couldn't tell.)

[thin lake]

So like, is it acceptable to copy an NPC file and kinda just look at it as an example and fiddle around with it before making my own?

[vernal crest]

!npc Yup, absolutely! We also have a bunch of resources for NPC making specifically, including Tiakall's step by step tutorial for making an NPC, Avi's NPC template, and Fireredlily's NPC builder spreadsheet.

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Aviroen has put together a template that will allow you to easily create a romanceable NPC.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

• Fireredlily has a WIP NPC Builder Please do report any errors you get with it into the NPC thread!

To use this command, type !npc.

[thin lake]

Now my next question, I made a portrait too small in pixel size, how would I go about enlarging that? Would I have to redraw the portrait by hand?

[vernal crest]

You might be able to scale it up using nearest neighbour sampling but I don't know how well it will work.

[thin lake]

Neighbor sampling?

[vernal crest]

Nearest neighbour. It's a resampling method and it's the one that works best for pixel art. What art program are you using?

[thin lake]

Pixel studio

[vernal crest]

Hmm, that appears to have a canvas resizing tool but I'm not sure if it resizes the image itself.

Still, you can always try.

[thin lake]

I will try and see if it works

[serene moat]

I need to use a better pixel art program. I’ve been using procreate with pixel brushes

[vernal crest]

Is that not good for pixel art?

[fading walrus]

I don't think procreate was designed with pixel art in mind

[tiny zealot]

the best camera pixel art program is the one you have with you are comfortable using

as long as it can do single pixels and export to 8-bit RGBA .png, whatever you have is Fine

[fading walrus]

[tiny zealot]

(aseprite does have some really helpful features, so if you are willing to buy that or compile it for yourself, it's pretty good! but don't worry about it as long as you know how to use your tool)

[drowsy pewter]

I'm sorry to hear that you got scammed, I hope that the moderators can crack down on those accounts even though you probably won't get your money back (though if you paid through Paypal or credit card, try and do a chargeback/open a refund request asap). If you decide to commission someone again in the future, I would be happy to help give advice on whether or not the person you chose is trustworthy or not, based on what I know of their previous modding history. Additionally, I cannot do the code that you're wanting, but I'd be happy to draw some pixel art for free for you if you need that for your mod idea (For the record, you can check my nexusmods history and posting history in this server to see that I'm a real modder!)

[vernal crest]

Some of the best pixel artists we have use programs that weren't designed for pixel art

[drowsy pewter]

Honestly you'll find that features specifically geared for pixel art arent super helpful until you're really doing pixel art a ton

Like it's really approachable, so you dont need that much to work with. Not like some illustration styles where you might need fun brushes or filters to make your art more snazzy

[vernal crest]

Yup I started making pixel art using Piskel in Firefox

[serene moat]

I think it’s decent when you download specific pixel brushes for it or make them yourself. But the grid/canvas guide is hard to use, even when you set it to 1 pixel grid size. My grid at least isn’t exactly 1 pixel even when I set it

[vernal crest]

I don't use a pixel grid, but if it also couldn't do a 16px or 64px grid that'd be a deal breaker for me

[drowsy pewter]

You are on an ipad, right? Is aseprite even available on ipad?

[thin lake]

I tried to resize one of my NPC portraits but nothing worked

[drowsy pewter]

Procreate is the only ipad drawing program that I know illustrators consistently mention using

so there may not be another good option

[vernal crest]

As in it didn't resize or it resized but badly?

[serene moat]

Pretty sure it can only do squares and not rectangles. Like 16x16, 64x64

[serene moat]

Medibang paint used to be a good program for iPad (and free), but now it’s full of ads. I stopped using it once it started playing ads every time I opened a canvas

[drowsy pewter]

I believe aseprite also only does square grids?

[vernal crest]

Eh, that's all you need most of the time. I use 16x16 for NPC sprites. I did 16x48 once for wallpapers but I didn't really need to.

No, Aseprite can do rectangles

[drowsy pewter]

Ah, good to know

[woeful lintel]

I can't even fathom doing anything other than look at my messages on a touchscreen, so doing art on an IPad is mindblowing to me.

whenever I need to do pixel art I use GIMP

[crude plank]

I tried to use GIMP and i was completely lost everything felt so unintuitive to me

[thin lake]

Resized badly

[fading walrus]

I saw one recently called Resprite that looks promising

Maybe you could check that out?

[crude plank]

And the the first time i open Asesprite everything immediately made sense to me

[tiny zealot]

my aseprite (slightly out of date at this point, i think, lol compiled) only does square grids for the transparent background, but the "visible grid" (outlines around regions) is a freely configurable rectangle lol nevermind found out the background grid can actually be customized, ignore me

[vernal crest]

Unfortunate, I'm sorry. What size is your portrait?

[fading walrus]

It looks like it might be some kind of Aseprite fork

But for iOS

[serene moat]

I will, thank you!

[drowsy pewter]

Hylia, if you take a picture before and after it will be helpful for us to guide you

[karmic gust]

I’ve been working on an event that starts on the farm and then immediately switches to a different location, but despite setting the starting coordinates and the NPCs in the void it was still starting on the front steps with all the NPCs standing in one spot in front of the farmhouse. I couldn’t find a solution, so just in case anyone else has the same problem I used the viewport command and set it to 1000 1000 again (like as the first command after the setup ones)

also aaaa I spent way too long trying to fix that

[tiny zealot]

the farm is cursed and ignores coordinates unless you use a special event command to uncurse it (ignoreCoordinates or something like that)

[fading walrus]

(Also, popping in to say that we were contacted about this and handled it!)

[tiny zealot]

(the point of doing this is so that the vanilla farm events, where somebody shows up on your doorstep, always work no matter where your house is)

[karmic gust]

That makes sense!

[woeful lintel]

Is there a post limit on Nexus? FF has been stuck at 200 comments for about a week now, is this the limit or is this a cosmic event?

[round timber]

expanded has 32k comments so i dont think its that

[tiny zealot]

200 is absolutely not the limit on posts on a mod, lol

[drowsy pewter]

You have a break, enjoy it

[woeful lintel]

lmao, maybe I should take this as a sign

[tiny zealot]

i think casey got that many in one day when one of the SMAPI updates broke spacecore for a few seconds

[drowsy pewter]

God i remember that

oh hey

[round timber]

thats pretty 1337

[woeful lintel]

It's not a break, I have a complete rework of the parsing process on my hands

[thin lake]

This is one of my NPC portraits

[vernal crest]

Firefox tells me that's 160x160px which I assume is not its actual size because you said your portraits were smaller than they should be, not bigger.

[thin lake]

Yes

[drowsy pewter]

It looks like it was drawn from the portrait creator too so I'm surprised that it would have been too small in the first place?

What size are you trying to make it?

[thin lake]

64 × 64

[vernal crest]

And what size is it?

[thin lake]

For pixels?

[vernal crest]

Yes

[thin lake]

It's 64×64 but the image itself is a jpeg and I completely forgot it needs to be a png

And whenever I tried to convert it to a PNG it gets worse

[drowsy pewter]

So you dont need to resize it?

[vernal crest]

Why did you mention resizing then?

[woeful lintel]

do you not have the original file open?

[thin lake]

Because I had initially thought resizing would be the best option

[thin lake]

I do not.

[drowsy pewter]

Why don't you put the 64x64 jpeg file in here in the chat

One of us can make it a png and remove the background

The 160x160 image that you posted cannot be turned back into pixel art because it's blurry now

[thin lake]

I don't have the original file though 😔 just the downloaded file.

[thin lake]

That's what I was afraid of

[drowsy pewter]

You said you had a 64x64 image?

Okay

I'm going to take the 160x160 image you posted and try and do my best to fix it, but maybe this is a sign to keep backups if you're not sure what you're doing

[thin lake]

Yeah, I will do that for now.

[thin lake]

Initially this was 160 × 160, but the image itself was drawn on a 64 × 64 canvas

[vernal crest]

You can't draw a 160px image on a 64px canvas.

[gloomy hemlock]

Does the portrait creator output it as an upsized scale of 160x160?

[drowsy pewter]

nope

And their image was definitely drawn at 64x based on the pixel edges

[gloomy hemlock]

I have a question! Not sure if I'm just missing something incredibly obvious. I'm trying to use console commands in the SMAPI window, but none of the commands from https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Console_commands are working. I tried typing help but the only commands it says I can do are these:

[lucid iron]

You don't have console commands the mod

That's one of the 2 default mods that comes with smapi

[gloomy hemlock]

Ahhhhh. It must have gotten taken out when I was splitting off my main mod load and I missed it. Thank you!

[lucid iron]

With that you can do debug <whatever debug command listed>

To use the game's own debug commands

[gloomy hemlock]

Makes sense. Just tested with the mod added, it's working now. Thank you!

[blissful relic]

noob question, how do I go about using TextureOverrides in my mod

[lucid iron]

What is the context here

Spacecore?

[blissful relic]

yes

spacecore

SourceSizeOverride

[gloomy hemlock]

Is there a clean and quick way to remove the game's flag of "You did X thing" so I don't need to restart days to make sure each variation of something is working correctly? In this case it'd be to test multiple dialogues with the same NPC. (I want to make sure the gendered language is working correctly and also that when using branching dialogue via responses that all of them work correctly as well)

[lucid iron]

So in content patcher, load the texture first

Then do an EditData on spacechase0.SpaceCore/TextureOverrides

TargetTexture is the target of your load

TargetRect is area to put texture

[blissful relic]

if the texture is loaded in another mod do I still need to load it?

[lucid iron]

Well u need the hd version right

[blissful relic]

yes

[lucid iron]

You need to Load that

[vernal crest]

Yup.

• To just play a particular dialogue line repeatedly you can use debug loaddialogue NPCName Characters/Dialogue/NPCName:key.
• To remove a dialogue answer it's debug action MarkQuestionAnswered <player> <answer ID> [answered].
• To undo a trigger action it's debug action MarkActionApplied <player> <answer ID> [applied].
• To remove a mail flag it's debug action RemoveMail <player> <mail ID> [type].
• To remove a CT it's debug action RemoveConversationTopic <topic ID>.

Basically with debug action you can run any trigger action action lol

[lucid iron]

I think in that case your TargetTexture is whatever the other mod loaded to

SourceTexture is your texture

[blissful relic]

yep

[gloomy hemlock]

That's a very useful answer, thank you! Gonna copy it into my notes so I don't have to look it up in chat again/lose it.

[lucid iron]

TargetRect would be 64x64 rect while SourceSizeOverride would be some 256x256 vector

I don't recall a mod example offhand but that's how it goes I think

[blissful relic]

so for example, if I'm doing HighlandsDwarf_Vendor from SVE

it's looking like...

            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "spacechase0.SpaceCore/TextureOverrides",
            "Entries": {
                "ModID.HighlandsDwarf_Vendor": {
                            "SourceTexture": "{{InternalAssetKey: assets/HD/HighlandsDwarf_Vendor.png}}",
                            "TargetTexture": "Mods/FlashShifter.StardewValleyExpandedCP/HighlandsDwarf_Vendor",
                 "TargetRect": { "X": 0, "Y": 0, "Width": 64, "Height": 64 },
                  "SourceSizeOverride": { "X": 256, "Y": 256 },
                    },
            },
            "When":{"HasFile:assets/HD/HighlandsDwarf_Vendor.png": true,}
        },```

am I doing this right

[vernal crest]

!codeblock It's easier to read when in a code block

[ocean sail]

You can embed code in Discord using a series of three ` :
```
Your code can go here
Even if not a haiku
Just an example
```

For syntax highlighting, add the language code on the same line as the first
``` (with no space, like ```json).
The usual codes are cs (C#) and json.

To use this command, type !codeblock.

[blissful relic]

ty

[drowsy pewter]

@thin lake This is the most I can do to save your portrait without redrawing it and without seeing the original, and I spent 30 minutes on it, so please use it lol

[thin lake]

Tysm! I appreciate your help😭

[lucid iron]

That looks about right though did u want {{ModId}}

[devout otter]

That's right. Though if this is your own mod, you don't really need that When field.

[blissful relic]

omg it's DolphINaF

big fan

[devout otter]

Er, thank you.

[blissful relic]

tysm for the idea of using Spacecore for vendor HD portraits

I was losing my mind everytime I use HD portrait mod and then the vendor portrait popped out in 64x64

😭

[devout otter]

Oh! I'm guessing you took a look on the HD Portraits part of my Portraits for Vendors mod as template?

[blissful relic]

I looked around yes

[devout otter]

Yar, I use When there because my HD folder is actually empty. So SMAPI would not give an error if it coudnn't find the portraits.

But since you'd include the portraits yourself, the When field shouldn't be necessary.

(Also what chu said about you may want to use {{ModID}})

[blissful relic]

I like your approach of making a HD patch in the mod structure to give room for more flexibility of swapping between low res and high res so I left that When there

oh gdi

[devout otter]

Yeah, I'm guessing not many people know about SpaceCore/ScaleUp 2 feature...

[devout otter]

Oh, then carry on.

[winter dust]

With "When" conditions, if you add two entries does it act as an AND condition or an OR operator?

[blissful relic]

ty @lucid iron you've been very kind and helpful, hopefully I can make this work

[vernal crest]

If it's like this it's AND

"When": {
  "Thing1": "value",
  "Thing2": "value"
}

If it's like this it's OR

"When": {
  "Thing1": "value1, value2",
}

[vernal crest]

You didn't acknowledge chu or Dolphin mentioning {{ModID}} so I am going to suggest it as well lol. ModID. is not a guaranteed unique prefix.

[blissful relic]

yes, that was my bad I got overly excited

[vernal crest]

No worries I just didn't want you to have missed it and then wish you knew about it later haha

[winter dust]

I thought so, thanks.

[blissful relic]

I was posting that as an example, but I'll replace it with my mod's unique id

[vernal crest]

Not a fan of the token?

[blissful relic]

more like don't know how to use tokens

[rough lintel]

literally just do {{ModId}} with the funny brackets

[lucid iron]

Well if u put a thing between {{ }}

[rough lintel]

that is what people are saying

[lucid iron]

Dats a token

[blissful relic]

WHAT

[lucid iron]

Content Patcher resolve it to sone actual value at runtime

[devout otter]

(I'm not a fan of the token because I'm easily confused when I want to patch an asset with another mod.)

[winter dust]

Not everything can take {{ModId}}, but most things can.

[vernal crest]

I am a fan of the token because I change my mod's ID a bunch of times before I release xD

[blissful relic]

.....I feel really dumb rn, but also kinda relieved

seems like I gotta go back to reading CP Readme

[vernal crest]

You can do a lot of cool stuff with tokens

[drowsy pewter]

I enjoy manually typing my mod id a lot so i can pat myself on the back for being a mod author whenever I see my own name

[vernal crest]

I type my mod ID in full PLENTY when testing

I can type Abagaianye so fast

[drowsy pewter]

(trying to brag) well I can type 6480 even faster

[vernal crest]

xD

[visual dirge]

ive been working on an external program that parses a set of content packs and dumps all the data after applying all their EditData changes. and lemme tell you. tokens are a nightmare. content patcher is too complicated.

[latent mauve]

Only caveat with the tokens, is that if you are using them in a Loaded file, CP won't turn them into actual values. (This is a reason to load blank.json files for some things and then use a separate EditData action elsewhere to add the data in them)

[visual dirge]

yes i did infact have to reimplement OrdinalIgnoreCase in rust, yes there is infact zero documentation on the exact unicode specifics of what OrdinalIgnoreCase actually does, yes i ended up reading the c++ source code for .net to figure it out, next question

[lucid iron]

I think content patcher is less too complicated and more too dynamic

What exactly r u gonna do when the Target has tokens

[drowsy pewter]

can they make a static tokens system

[latent mauve]

There is a CP command to parse tokens

[visual dirge]

currently i resolve the tokens if i can, and if i don't know the value of the token then i either turn it into a set of changes with when conditions (if the token has a fixed set of possible values) or just die and display the token verbatim in the output

[lucid iron]

Ig it just depends on goal here then

[visual dirge]

when conditions are unified sorta kinda 😅

[visual dirge]

the output data is fortunately mostly for human consumption so its not too bad

[lucid iron]

Normally people just do patch export <target> n get the actual current state of the asset

[inner harbor]

When i mentioned i wanted to commission art of an npc i got spammed with DMs.

[ivory plume]

(Content Patcher is essentially a light programming language, not just a data format. If you can create a generic parser that can find every possible output of any given content pack, you're well on your way to solving a P vs NP problem.)

[visual dirge]

hey, it's not too bad!

[winter dust]

Can I check for the size of a map in a When conditions?

[visual dirge]

the occasional edge-case where the output just has verbatim tokens is acceptable for my purposes

[umbral plume]

Im baaaack

[visual dirge]

this is the most annoying part btw. why does c# have zero documentation as to what this feature actually does beyond "it uppercases the strings" what does uppercasing the strings mean

[umbral plume]

i gots just two itty bitty issues

[lucid iron]

Not that i know of, what's the goal here?

[umbral plume]

I don't wanna talk over anybody thou so Ill wait 🤐

[lucid iron]

You should ask anyways

[visual dirge]

girlll im talking offtopic nonsense go ahead

[umbral plume]

ok ok so

[woeful lintel]

there's no "talking over" here, it's more like conversation weaving

actually that's a cool visual concept

[winter dust]

Well, I'm wanting to check what size map Fostoria is using, right now I'm using CMCT, but I don't want to use it cause I only need to use it with Fostoria.

[gloomy hemlock]

Questions! (I'm trying to understand the limitations of what I can and can't (or shouldn't) do.)

1. When telling the game to use a portrait, my understanding is you can use $0, $1, $1 etc (or $u/h/a but I find the numbering system more intuitive to my brain) at the end of a dialogue chunk to tell it what section of the portrait sheet to use. It goes from top left across then down. Do you have to use portrait sheets in the typical format or is the space of the file split evenly and assigned number values based on the chunks? Ex: A portrait sheet containing 10 different faces, but formatted in a way that'd be 5 faces wide and 2 faces high. Would it know how to handle that? (Trying to understand the limits of what I can do here.)
2. When telling it to load a portrait can you load multiple at once? The potential use case would be things like if X NPC was injured you could have a bandage placed overtop if said event happened using dynamic tokens (or when statements, but I feel like a dynamic token may be more useful?) and a portrait sheet containing just the bandage in the correct position. So having it have Abigail loaded and Abigail_Bandage at the same time and then when calling on $1 it'd be showing the $1 positioned portrait from both files at the same time. If this is possible, what would load order look like? Would the first one loaded be on the bottom layer and then the second loaded be on top or vice versa?
3. Can you load multiple portraits at once in a dialogue chunk itself? So if I typed "Hey @! I haven't seen you in ages! $1$3" Would it load both $1 and $3? If so, would it load 1 first, then place 3 on top?
4. What results in a better optimized mod for SDV, a bigger image file or multiple smaller files? Does loading more files regardless of file size result in a longer load time or is there no difference?

[umbral plume]

problem 1: When I reenter the farmhouse, I'm too the left of the doorway. Not a big issue, just not sure how to fix it. 2: The cellar entrance is visually off a small bit and I'm not sure how to line it up with my farmhouse map :I

[lucid iron]

Does fostoria have a configurable map size then?

[winter dust]

It does.

[umbral plume]

gimme a sec and ill get screenshots of what im talking about

[winter dust]

But I can only access their map size configs via CMCT.

[woeful lintel]

2: just editimage the portrait spritesheet with your bandage on every sprite

[lucid iron]

CMCT is the correct answer here

[winter dust]

Then I'll just make it an optional mod to use.

Cause I don't wanna add unnecessary requirements to the main mod.

[lucid iron]

As long as you gate the patch accessing any CMCT tokens behind hasmod then you fine

And make ur own matching config in case ppl not using cmct and just want to set it manually

[lucid iron]

1. Did you update the warps to match your adjusted farmhouse
2. Did you also patch the cellar renovation to match

[woeful lintel]

4: not an expert on this, but it's usually better to have stuff in a single sprite-sheet to avoid loading multiple textures, except if it has to be invalidated often (frequent patch updates because of conditions)

[vernal crest]

1. I believe ichor said you can make portrait sheets wider if you want to, yes
2. No, you want EditImage overlays like Leroy said
3. Nope. Your one portrait (either as originally loaded or with however many overlays you have edited onto it) is all you've got.
4. one bigger file is better than many smaller ones but unless you're going up into the hundreds I don't think it makes much difference

[ivory plume]

1. The game expects a specific portrait texture layout. You can extend the portrait texture downwards to add more portraits, but portraits past the expected right edge will be ignored.
2. No, a dialogue box can only show one portrait.
3. It's a tradeoff. Loading one large image is more efficient than loading many small ones if they'll always be loaded either way; but if you only need a few parts of the image, it can be more efficient to load the few small ones you need than the whole thing.

[woeful lintel]

actually, I don't see any situation where you would invalidate your own images, so big file it is

[vernal crest]

Ooh interesting, I'm sure ichor said he went wider. Was he wrong, did I misunderstand him, was that all a dream???

[uncut viper]

pretty sure you can go wider if you're loading, but content patcher won't let you edit wider

[umbral plume]

both in Tiled?

[lucid iron]

2 needs a separate editmap

Targeting the cellar warp

[uncut viper]

(the usual layout is definitely better to follow if it's not a custom NPC though. maintains compat)

[ivory plume]

I'm looking at the drawDialogueBox logic, and the positions are hardcoded for the named values like $u:

case Dialogue.dialogueHappy: portraitRect = new Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Rectangle(NPC.portrait_width, 0, NPC.portrait_width, NPC.portrait_height); break;
case Dialogue.dialogueSad: portraitRect = new Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Rectangle(0, NPC.portrait_height, NPC.portrait_width, NPC.portrait_height); break;
...

It does fallback to dynamic calculation for numeric indexes, but if you go wider that'll change the meaning of the standard portrait values (e.g. $u and $3 will no longer be equivalent), which will mean a lot of dialogues will show the wrong portrait.

[umbral plume]

oh like an editmap in the farmhouse content json?

[gloomy hemlock]

Thank you everyone for the answers! One thing I want to double check to make sure I'm understanding, for 2) when you say EditImage overlays are we talking like an edited version of the OG with the bandage added or a file with just the bandage and pure transparency beyond?

[uncut viper]

the latter

[gloomy hemlock]

In that case would it be wise to make sure that my $u etc positions line up to ensure wider compatibility?

[lucid iron]

If u look at your unpacked content there's a tmx that has only the cellar stairs

You need to edit that

Or Load it if u want

[ivory plume]

Yes, I would recommend using the standard layout. Even if you always use numeric portraits in your custom dialogues, the game injects dynamic dialogues in a lot of places (e.g. gift tastes) which often use the named portraits.

[gloomy hemlock]

That's good to know, thank you!

[uncut viper]

gift taste portraits are at least overridable still

(I'm not disagreeing with the rest, just making sure he knows he can change those)

[woeful lintel]

it would be a lot of stuff to change just to make the sprite-sheet more square-ish

[ivory plume]

Those are in 1.6, but I imagine there's other dynamic dialogue which isn't. (And even if you could override every single dynamic dialogue for an NPC, that definitely seems like a lot of work just to use a different texture layout, particularly given future updates may add more dialogue you'd then need to override.)

[gloomy hemlock]

Yeah I plan on trying to stick close to standard for compatability reasons, it's just useful to know how these things work so I know what I can and can't do. I understand things best when I know the 'why' not just the 'what'. Thank you everyone, that clears things up a lot! 😄

[uncut viper]

if there is other dialogue that isn't then I'm putting those on my feature request lists for 1.6.16

[lucid iron]

As long as u don't need more than 128 portraits it's fine

[ivory plume]

Searching $h in the game code.

[uncut viper]

(tbh if the named portraits are the only problem, it seems quite easy to make those be dynamic with a mod than play dialogue line whack a mole)

[lucid iron]

Although i wonder if u can do it like

The special $h are where they ought to be as if 2 columns

But u extend to side anyways

[uncut viper]

are all those instances of $h in lines where you're completely unable to change the portrait with custom dialogue, though?

[umbral plume]

should i just add editmap at the end of the tmx file for the cellar

[lucid iron]

You have to change the cellar's own tmx file

It's a renovation

[ivory plume]

No, because the game also uses numeric indexes to refer to them. For example, the game uses $5 to show an angry face, but you edited it so now $5 is a clown face.

[umbral plume]

yeah ive got it open in notepad++ just dont wanna mess it up siince its not my code

[ivory plume]

(I'm not going to individually check over 10,000 matches to see which ones can be overridden. Sorry! :P)

[blissful panther]

You mean we aren't getting automatic atlasing of all loaded textures and rewriting of source rect co-ordinatesin the next update? /j

[uncut viper]

I didn't think so! More just rhetorical way to say that I don't think all of those are the same case as gift taste were pre 1.6

[lucid iron]

Im confused about what you are doing now

[umbral plume]

thats not a good sign if ive confused the person im asking help from lol

[lucid iron]

so the renovation is Farmhouse_Cellar.tmx

it looks like this

[gloomy hemlock]

In that case, would the game understand it if I've extended an NPC's portrait sheet? Example, I'm trying to make typically non-romanceable NPCs romanceable so I'll need to add the expected blushing and other potential unique potraits depending on events. Are all of the $X positions hardcoded? I'm trying to make the mod using Content Patcher's functionality, do I need to somehow tell it where my $4 is so it can load properly? (Willy's portrait sheet for example only has 4 different faces unlike the typical bachelor or bachellorette)

[lucid iron]

your farmhouse looks 1 tile taller than it should be

[umbral plume]

yep just doont know what to change

[lucid iron]

so you also need to make a version of this thats 1 tile taller with the cellar thing 1 lower

[umbral plume]

oooohhhhh

[lucid iron]

another thing you have to change is the Warp

(for the main Farmhouse.tmx)

[ivory plume]

The portrait logic isn't NPC-specific, so you can extend the portrait texture downward and it'll work fine (e.g. $l will work for Willy if there's a portrait at that position).

[gloomy hemlock]

Oooo that's really good to know, thank you!

[ivory plume]

So I've been playing around with the new internal ID field, and it looks good in general!

I don't really like having it at the top though, since it's not the most relevant info for most players. So I'll probably move it to the bottom; if you just wanted to avoid scrolling to see it, have you tried enabling full-screen mode in the Lookup Anything options?

[round timber]

"a1000 Forest 7 35 3 \"Strings\\schedules\\{{Honeyfuggle}}:{{ModId}}_Wizard\"/1500 Forest 10 35 2/1800 Forest 22 86 3/2400/2100 {{ModId}}_Tent 3 2 3 {{ModId}}_pillows/2400 {{ModId}}_Tent 1 4 3 {{ModId}}_sleep" is anyone able to see at a glance what's wrong with this schedule? it is failing for some reason log

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 13 C# mods and 1 content packs.

[umbral plume]

Total sidenote, ive not upgraded my farmhouse yet so i cant test version 2 but how difficult is it to have the bath in the bathroom regen stamina? Is it simply just adding in a swimsuit change tile or is it more complicated

[ivory plume]

It's a bit easier to see if you multi-line it:

a1000 Forest 7 35 3 \"Strings\\schedules\\{{Honeyfuggle}}:{{ModId}}_Wizard\"/
1500 Forest 10 35 2/
1800 Forest 22 86 3/
2400/
2100 {{ModId}}_Tent 3 2 3 {{ModId}}_pillows/
2400 {{ModId}}_Tent 1 4 3 {{ModId}}_sleep

The first schedule for 2400 is missing the required fields (and is out of order).

[round timber]

how did i not see that 😭

[ivory plume]

(I'm increasingly tempted to add XML support to Content Patcher. The vanilla events and schedules are so much easier to read now that they're multi-line in the base code.)

[round timber]

XML support meaning? :o

[ivory plume]

You could have content.xml instead of content.json, or do stuff like...

{
    "Action": "Include",
    "FromFile": "events.xml"
}

[lucid iron]

I thought that was just gonna scale it up

[ivory plume]

So instead of having schedules like this:

"rain": "1000 SamHouse 15 13 0/1100 SamHouse 17 15 2 sam_guitar/1500 SamHouse 8 6 3 sam_gameboy/1700 SamHouse 17 13 0/1830 SamHouse 22 16 1/2000 SamHouse 22 13 1 sam_sleep"

You could do this:

<Item>
  <Key>rain</Key>
  <Value>
    1000 SamHouse 15 13 0/
    1100 SamHouse 17 15 2 sam_guitar/
    1500 SamHouse 8 6 3 sam_gameboy/
    1700 SamHouse 17 13 0/
    1830 SamHouse 22 16 1/
    2000 SamHouse 22 13 1 sam_sleep
  </Value>
</Item>

(Technically you can multi-line with JSON too, but every text editor will panic about it.)

[calm nebula]

Soooo toml when ducks

Also

[round timber]

woah

[lucid iron]

But hm how do you feel about decoupling the flavor linked field from the internal id setting?

[calm nebula]

Never would I have guessed that one day I would hear Pathos speak positively on xml

Or xnb

[lucid iron]

Rn it's both under that if block

[ivory plume]

(I removed the config option in the PR, both are now always shown.)

[lucid iron]

Ah ok

[umbral plume]

do i do this through map resizing? Cause it didn't work...

[lucid iron]

Well you need to make it bigger first yes

[calm nebula]

Speaking of schedules

[ivory plume]

The game's syntax is all built for XML content, so it fits more naturally.

Like all that quote escaping we need to do in JSON? The base game doesn't do any of that:

<Item>
  <Key>marriage_Mon</Key>
  <Value>
    800 SamHouse 8 5 3 "Strings/schedules/Sam:marriage_Mon.000"/
    1100 SamHouse 3 13 2 "Strings/schedules/Sam:marriage_Mon.001"/
    1500 bed
  </Value>
</Item>

[calm nebula]

Content Patcher looks explicitly as Dictionary and List for data types to edit

But for...schedules actually

I once wanted a Sorted Dictionary

[winter dust]

"When": {
    "HasMod| contains=Lizzie.Stoffton": true,
    "HasMod| contains=Fostoria.Stoffton": false
}

This would only work if Stoffton is installed and Fostoria is not, right?

[calm nebula]

Is there a reason why CP looks to Dictionary/List and. Not IDictionary/IList?

[ivory plume]

Yep.

[winter dust]

Thanks Pathos.

[calm nebula]

Smh use single quotes (jk jk)

[ivory plume]

(JSON is way nicer when you don't need to deal with multiline strings and nested quotes though.)

[umbral plume]

why is the warp point different when I enter the house? Exiting the house is fine, its lined up, but when I reenter the house I'm a couple tiles left?

ooohhhh i made it worse fk

[lucid iron]

Hm so most farm buildings do the 1 tile north of first warp trick

I don't recall farmhouse having special hardcoding but i could be wrong

[ivory plume]

Theoretically it could support interfaces, but it'll add some complication and may not always work intuitively.

For example, let's say you have this field in your data asset model:

public class SomeDataModel
{
    public IDictionary<string, string> Schedules = new OrderedDictionary<string, string>();
}

And then a content pack does this:

{
    "Action": "EditData",
    "Target": "Data/YourDataAsset",
    "Entries": {
        "Schedules": {
            "X": "Y"
        }
    }
}

Content Patcher needs to create an instance of IDictionary<string, string> to replace the field. It can't construct an interface, so it'll need to map it to a concrete type somehow:

• If it just uses a default mapping (e.g. IDictionary -> Dictionary), then it's no longer an ordered dictionary after a mod replaces the field.
• It could try to guess the type based on the currently assigned value, but that fails if it's null. That also leads to all sorts of edge cases (e.g. one content pack sets the field to null and the other replaces it, so now it's gone again).

So tl;dr:

• it's theoretically possible;
• there's a lot of code paths and edge cases we'd need to look into;
• not sure how many mods would actually use this?

(It would be easier to add another supported concrete type like OrderedDictionary.)

[calm nebula]

Oh I meant using a SortedDictionary (I hope that is the class name) as a concrete type

[tiny zealot]

adding this to my knowledge bank. i thought the named portraits were just aliases for indexes and they all calculated the source rect the same way (like sprite index, so any source image width would be fine). good to know it's much more cursed than that /lh

[calm nebula]

Ie, my class looks like
class Data
{
SortedDictionary schedules =[];
}

[uncut viper]

(it is! there is also SortedList. source: used them last night for a mod im making)

[ivory plume]

The low-level DictionaryKeyValueEditor does actually use IDictionary<,>, so in theory it wouldn't be too hard to support other dictionary concrete types. Might just need to edit KeyValueEditorFactory.TryGetConstructorWithoutCache.

[umbral plume]

I'm confused because when I made the map, I didn't move the entrance at all. I built off the vanilla

[round timber]

if you expanded the map to the left that would shift the coordinates

[umbral plume]

OH UH

PROBLEM

[round timber]

?

[umbral plume]

THE WALL ISNT WALLING

I WALKED RIGHT THROUGH IT LMAO

[round timber]

gotta put the wall on the Buildings layer yourself!

[latent mauve]

Bottom walls like that usually need a black tile on the Building layer to prevent passthrough

Under it

[umbral plume]

The other walls work fine, but the wall between the entrance and cellar is fake apparently

[lucid iron]

Farmhouse is cursed

[umbral plume]

LOL

[ivory plume]

(Farmhouse modders are pretty brave, given all the farmhouse dynamic changes like renovations and spouse rooms and special warp logic.)

[uncut viper]

my best advice for messing with renovations of any kind is "good luck"

mirroring the farmhouse was hell on earth

[lucid iron]

You know i wonder if you'd have a better time if you make your little change a renovation in and of itself

[umbral plume]

im doing it out of pure spite, not bravery lmao

[lucid iron]

Although it looks like it's already overlapping with where the dining room normally is

[latent mauve]

I thankfully didn't have too much trouble implementing the bathroom reno once the walls and floors issue got found xD

[umbral plume]

yall i need all the luck cause i only started learning all this coding sht 24 hours ago and im astonished its even IN THE GAME LOL

[latent mauve]

So it's a matter of scale

[lucid iron]

I think the particular cursedness is from the attempt to extend left

Extend right is much easier

[umbral plume]

Actually I could probably adjust the map so its more adding on rather than expanding?

[lucid iron]

Depends on what you desire

Ppl have made farmhouse mods that completely change the whole thing and they (mostly) work

[faint ingot]

If I want a patch to apply 80% of the time, does this work (as a when condition), and is there a better way to do it? "query: {{Random:1, 2, 3, 4, 5}} >= 4": true

[ivory plume]

One option is to add a little door/warp which just leads to a different room, which you can place off-screen at Y=100 or something.

[lucid iron]

This applies 40% of the time right

If im reading it right

[umbral plume]

the main reason Im making my own farmhouse mod is because I want everything in one screen like on one floor, theres only like two mods thats only one floor and the layouts are funky

[blissful relic]

looks like 40% odd

[umbral plume]

im including the cellar bc the cask recipe

[lucid iron]

I think u can do "Random: 1,2,3,4,5 |=contains=1": false

[ivory plume]

I suggest avoiding query if you can, which is more expensive and less validated.

"Random: {{Range:1, 10}}": "{{Range:1, 8}}" // 80%

[umbral plume]

I could shave a row of tiles or two off the left side and try it out?

[lucid iron]

If you gonna do that, start over from the vanilla farmhouse tmx again

And only extend map right or down

[umbral plume]

dont have to give me an excuse, designing it was so much fun

[calm nebula]

Whenever I get around to it, may I give it a shot?

[umbral plume]

should I avoid moving the entrance so I don't have to deal with warp coordinate problems?

[lucid iron]

I feel like it could have been made to work but it would have been pain regardless

[ivory plume]

Sure!

[lucid iron]

So yeah just leave it alone and keep it simple

[umbral plume]

Honestly all I want is seperate kid rooms, a large storage/machine room and have it all one floor lol

[lucid iron]

Ah well

You need the power to relocate cribs for that

[calm nebula]

Unfortunately my schedule is now shot through the end of fucking JULY so I'll try

[uncut viper]

oh Pathos, as long as you're here, this is a very minor thing but something i noticed last night: should ArgUtility.TryGetOptionalRemainder also include a field label (the [CallerArgumentExpression("value")] string name = null bit?) i noticed its the only one in ArgUtility that doesnt

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/Mushymato/MiscMapActionsProperties/tree/main?tab=readme-ov-file#mushymatommap_cribposition-x-y

[umbral plume]

Once the kids get to child beds, theyll sleep in whatever room i put the child bed in though right

[lucid iron]

They sleep in the crib as a baby so if u are fine with them being in the void for that sure

[umbral plume]

LMAO

VOID BABY

[lucid iron]

This is an extra mod that will let you move the crib's position

[ivory plume]

The field label is used to build errors, but there's no possible error with that one. (It only returns a boolean so you can use it the same way as the other methods, it'll always return true.)

[umbral plume]

honestly all i did was move the crib tilesheet tiles and the overlay tiles with the action: crib property

[lucid iron]

It doesn't really work like that

[umbral plume]

dammit

[lucid iron]

The crib is a renovation

[uncut viper]

then why does it have an out error param

[lucid iron]

And it's position is hardcoded in vanilla

[vernal crest]

Trust Chu they're the one who made the mod that lets you move the crib

[uncut viper]

oh, ignore me, it doesnt

id accidentally clicked on the nonoptional one

[umbral plume]

Back to the drawingboard WOO

I live for the drawing board not actually making it a thing lmao

[uncut viper]

the two worst locations to choose for a first mod to edit are farmhouse and the communitycenter

[umbral plume]

im just the one with ideas and fine tuning not actually putting them into action lol

[lucid iron]

Yeah sad times

[umbral plume]

hon im only learning this because i cant find a farmhouse layout im content with lol

its annoyiing me

so i finally said fk it

[lucid iron]

You should make the mod you want to use yep

But unfortunately farmhouse is Like That

[uncut viper]

im not saying you shouldnt do it!

just, yknow. you chose the worst option unfortunately

[umbral plume]

sounds like something i would do lmao

[vernal crest]

My first mod was also farmhouse woo

[lucid iron]

Temperamental maiden that one

[umbral plume]

i have a habit of prefering the expensive stuff too

[uncut viper]

(thankfully worst doesnt mean impossible, a lot of it is really just being spoiled on how easy it is to edit everywhere else)

[umbral plume]

always gotta be high matience unintentially 💅 lol

hey that just means once i get this layout ironed out and done other mods will be easier to make

[vernal crest]

I remember being very puzzled when I left my bathroom map and arrived at the front door of the farmhouse

[lucid iron]

You can maybe do a shed mod first that thing significantly less cursed

[umbral plume]

nah im determined now, im running off pure spite and caffine

[ivory plume]

(Fun fact: you can put a bed in a shed and sleep there.)

[winter dust]

Oh well, that's enough modding for me today, I still have to fix that SMAPI patch I have.

[vernal crest]

I never bothered doing anything about it though lol. Magical bathroom door.

[umbral plume]

slurps pepsi

[lucid iron]

My spouse has Banished me to the garden shed

[blissful panther]

(And the mines, if you force it to happen... but don't. )

[round timber]

mod where you can sleep on couches

[blissful panther]

The mines: #making-mods-general message

[rancid musk]

(But what if I yearn for the mines)

[blissful panther]

Then you can do that and wake up in a limbo version and exist there for eternity.

[lucid iron]

I think u just make a bed that's couch shaped right

[ivory plume]

(When you yearn for the abyss, the abyss yearns for you.)

[lucid iron]

Maybe it got messy blankets

[blissful panther]

(It's the next logical step of staring into the other, after all.)

[round timber]

alternatively: bury yourself in couch cushions

[lucid iron]

Hmmmm

Will sitting on a chair trigger furniture tile properties

Like is your farmer's actual tile location over the chair now

[umbral plume]

i was summoned

[lucid iron]

I'll have to try it later

Maybe u can proc sleep via sitting

[blissful panther]

Sleeping is I think 3 lines of code in the debug command, so honestly... probably pretty easy.

[lucid iron]

Well yes but I'm trying to do this with existing toys

Spacecore furniture tile properties basically

[rough lintel]

once again we are back to coding

time to figure out how to run the functions in my keypress

[umbral plume]

brief q

if i just add swimsuit change tiles to a bath entrance, does it make the water stamina regen or is that another can of worms entirely?

[blissful panther]

Aww, I was hoping furniture would have a doCollisionAction equivalent to make that easier.

[uncut viper]

stamina regen happens whenever the player is swimming, no matter where the swimming may be

and no matter what they are wearing

[lucid iron]

You just put an TouchAction tile property

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/844169712455254037/1371649955898458132/Kooha-2025-05-12-20-46-49.mp4?ex=682c79d1&is=682b2851&hm=0a1072b5cab505ca2cbb3b682c32fa2e2454839714ca038b0308431a1819db5f&

[blissful panther]

I have to admit, I was getting the impression it was still a mystery, so I just ignored the obvious things like those.

[lucid iron]

Hence why i wonder if the farmer actually moves onto furniture during the sitting

Enough to count for touchaction

I did need to make collision maps work on furniture separately for things that aren't rugs

[umbral plume]

oonce child is out of crib and in a bed, theyll sleep in the bed if its in a different room, right?

[lucid iron]

Yeah the child bed is just furniture

You can move it normally in vanilla too it works the same

[umbral plume]

just wanna know if theyll change rooms or if theyre hardcodded to the crib room

[lucid iron]

There's no concept of "rooms"

[rough lintel]

alright, struggling to parse the getRequired from the old mod into my new version because mine doesn't take two arguments

basically i just want (from the old one) for it to do this (get the blueprint, and the amount of wood needed and make sure its greater than zero)

if (GetRequired(vanillaBlueprints[currentBlueprintIndex], woodObject) > 0)
                {
                  ingredient = woodObject.getOne();
                    ingredient.Stack = remainingWoodReq;
                }

but my GetRequired doesn't take two args, it takes one

[lucid iron]

Well if you used getOne

[rough lintel]

private static int GetRequiredWood(List<BuildingMaterial> buildingMaterials)
{
    var counter = 0;
    foreach (var material in buildingMaterials)
    {
        if (ItemRegistry.QualifyItemId(material.ItemId) == "(O)388")
        {
            counter += material.Amount;
        }
    }
    return counter;
}

[lucid iron]

It'll become 1

[rough lintel]

the first thing is the old 1.5 code or whatever this guy did

i just want to mimic that same functionality(?) i guess, of getting the required ingredients from whatever bloopy is on the screen

[lucid iron]

Oh i see it's the part where it's making the wood to sell to the player

Yeah that's a later step

[rough lintel]

Oh.

so.... i dont do those functions yet

[lucid iron]

You are trying to find out how many wood the player owns right now

[rough lintel]

but i thought i did that in the inventoryamount function

do i need to do it again?

[lucid iron]

Nop then u are done with that

So now you gotta subtract the Stack field from the ingredients item by the number player owns

[rough lintel]

which i did in GetPrice

[lucid iron]

Then u can do this part

But only the getOne and Stack = however many you need part

[rough lintel]

i just don't know how to format that part is the thing. i never know what to pass through constructors(?)

[lucid iron]

Item.getOne is a method on item that gives you a copy

So it's not a constructor per say

[rough lintel]

method is what i meant. yeah

[lucid iron]

Your ide should have hints for these things though

[rough lintel]

i dont know what to pass through GetRequiredWood because it asks for buildingMaterials, and i. bweh

[lucid iron]

At least the type

[rough lintel]

i dont think it does

[lucid iron]

We aren't using the original mod's code at all

[rough lintel]

like this meant hoopla to me idk what it wants lmao

[lucid iron]

You wrote this method though

shouldn't you know what it wants

[rough lintel]

i barely understand whats going on bro im gonna be real 😔

private static int GetRequiredWood(List<BuildingMaterial> buildingMaterials)
{
    var counter = 0;
    foreach (var material in buildingMaterials)
    {
        if (ItemRegistry.QualifyItemId(material.ItemId) == "(O)388")
        {
            counter += material.Amount;
        }
    }
    return counter;
}

like. ?????

does it want me to put material there? does it want an item id? i dont know. i think i know, i do something, and then it doesn't work, so i don't actually know 😭

[lucid iron]

But CarpenterMenu.ingredients is a List of Items

Why did you write it like this is my confusion perhaps

[rough lintel]

(this is sinz's code)

(it worked, so i just kept it)

[lucid iron]

You didn't call it yet tho

But anyways I'll explain what implementation I had in mind

[rough lintel]

(sobs quietly)

i make progress and then i ask questions, then i get rerouted to a different way LMAO

[lucid iron]

1. CarpenterMenu has a field ingredients, it's the list of ingredients (List<Item>) of the current active blueprint
2. Because they are Item, you can get the count needed just by accessing Item.Stack, no reading blueprint entry required
3. Compare this number with number of wood in the player inventory, and do "purchase" (subtract appropriate money, add wood) in a ButtonsChanged handler

Using the Blueprint entry is valid way too, I just felt this way saved work cus you need it in Item form in the end

[rough lintel]

😔 do i just scrap all of this

[lucid iron]

Naw but let's look at it from another angle

You know the button press -> log message mod?

[rough lintel]

yeah

[lucid iron]

Let's do that but make it give you one wood everytime you press W

And take away 10 money

[rough lintel]

hm. there's no method to check the sale price of the object i just created is there

pweh

or should i just do - 10 for simplicity

or minus equals 10 my b

[ivory plume]

I'm not sure what you're doing, but why not do this since you're already creating the item?

if (Game1.activeClickableMenu is not CarpenterMenu)
    return;

Item wood = ItemRegistry.Create("(O)388");
Game1.player.Money -= wood.salePrice();

[rough lintel]

i actually just did that before you said that lmao

private void OnButtonPressed(object? sender, ButtonPressedEventArgs e)
{

    var counter = 0;
    if (Game1.activeClickableMenu is CarpenterMenu)
        ItemRegistry.Create("(O)388", 1);
        counter += 1;
        Game1.player.Money -= wood.salePrice();

    // print button presses to the console window
    this.Monitor.Log($"{Game1.player.Name} got {counter} wood.", LogLevel.Debug);
}

chu :D

i wanted the counter to increase as u pressed the button more nodnod

just. for fun

[lucid iron]

Now that u understand how to sell yourself wood we can hook it up to the things that tell you how many wood you need

[rough lintel]

mm

i dont do a foreach statement yet, right... or do i...

[tiny zealot]

i assume you meant to put braces { } around the three indented lines after the if

[lucid iron]

You can foreach (Item item in carpenterMenu.ingredients) yep

[tiny zealot]

C# is not a meaningful-whitespace language where indentation controls which things are scoped

[rough lintel]

yes ichor

[tiny zealot]

(and thank goodness! i don't need any more python in my life /lh)

[rough lintel]

foreach (Item ingredient in ingredients)
{
    if (ItemRegistry.IsQualifiedItemId("(O)388"))
    {
        counter += ingredient.Stack;
    }
}
``` bweh

i think?

[lucid iron]

oh for the player side

[rough lintel]

oh. lmao

[lucid iron]

Game1.player.Items.CountId("(O)388")

this helper function does basically what you want already

[rough lintel]

> 0?

[lucid iron]

it counts up total number of wood (O)388 in your inventory across different stacks

[rough lintel]

or am i not doing an if statement

oh ok

[lucid iron]

u just need to store the return

check the decompile for what this function is

[rough lintel]

uh okay

so for each ingredient, i compare how much the player has versus how much is required

but i dont do a >= statement, or i do?

or do i need to do a math problem instead, rather than an if statement

[lucid iron]

you need to assign the return value so you can use it elsewhere

int playerHasThisMany = Game1.player.Items.CountId("(O)388");

name of variable up to you

[rough lintel]

oh remainingwoodrequired

okay yes ok

OH okay

int playerHasWood = Game1.player.Items.CountId("388");
int remainingWoodRequired = ingredient.Stack - Game1.player.Items.CountId("388");

nyehehe

but i probably shouldnt do that in the foreach statement huh

the remainingwoodrequired thing

hm ok

[lucid iron]

well you already stored playerHasWood

you can use it

[rough lintel]

inside of that foreach statement?

[lucid iron]

no

tbh i do want to let you figure out on your own some more but considering ppl already gave you whole ass snippets ill do the same

[rough lintel]

no no ill play around with it

dont feel obligated

WOO ok i did it

lets go

[lucid iron]

this pastebin has a "right answer" https://pastebin.com/59eEiEj7

giving it to u for u to browse as needed cus im doing other things now

[blissful relic]

@lucid iron I got the mod to work, tysm for your help, I love you

[rough lintel]

no way you can condense the entire function down to that tiny foreach thats nuts

[visual dirge]

toml support when

😆

[umbral plume]

YALL I JUST REALIZED YOU CAN ROTATE AND FLIP TILES IN TILED

i know its prob common knowledge but

im excited now

[rancid musk]

(This code doesn't check if someone can actually afford the materials though... just takes away potentially more money than the player has, and also might do weird stuff if the player's inventory is full.)

[brittle pasture]

fixing those is an exercise left to the reader

[rancid musk]

-# Also if I want to be nitpicky, I doubt the sale price is the same as Robin's shop sell price, but we can pretend it's because of bulk pricing...

[lucid iron]

oh it actually is cus

robin shop doesn't set a price for wood/stone

the y1/2 behavior is fun bit of hardcoded

[rancid musk]

Of course it is...

[lucid iron]

but yes lani u should add checks for actually having enough money

in an actual mod, i'd probaby try to do some shenanigans where i alter the blueprint's cost on the shop

[brittle pasture]

maybe this can migrate to pricemodifiers as part of 1.6.16

[lucid iron]

so that it's absorbed

[calm nebula]

Stardew debt mod goooooooo

Realistic stardew mod

1. Crushing student debt

[lucid iron]

oh khloe since you are here

i had a thought about making a machine rule based crafting station in better crafting

[rigid oriole]

what's this T vs T^2 notation on the map properties wiki page?

[lucid iron]

my understanding of BC code is "i looked at it for 20mins" but ig the idea is like

• transform machine rule into IIngredient/IRecipe somehow
• let ppl designate a bigcraftable machine as "can have crafting station"

[brittle pasture]

snail sashimi will become real in 20

[lucid iron]

2 is tooltip

or uh, footnode

its not a thing you actually put

[rigid oriole]

are they just saying "stick T here by convention but technically you can do whatever you want"

the footnote is incredibly hard to find on that page lol

[lucid iron]

yea thats what the 2 footnote says

[rigid oriole]

no link 😔

[rough lintel]

yeah this is what i was planning

[rigid oriole]

thank u chu

[lucid iron]

usually for these the game just check doestilehaveproperty

[rigid oriole]

i have never touched maps I am just finishing wiki migrations and I don't want to put incorrect info in

[rough lintel]

appending the additional price to the cost of the building to make New Price :3c

and if u cant buy it then GET OUT /j

[calm nebula]

Ohhh that's a good shout

Huh

That's actually easier

[rancid musk]

So... a way to convert machine recipes into crafting recipes the player can do in a crafting station menu?

It should be... fairly easy with a C# mod, but I'm not sure why you'd bother?

(Or am I interpreting that wrong and you want to make a machine that performs a craft based on a recipe the user selects?)

[rough lintel]

so i think im going to blow up my house if this keeps not working

im gonna go back to my c# learning book 😔

[calm nebula]

Please don't blow up your house

[rough lintel]

too late its in smithereens

blame visual studio

[lucid iron]

the machine would remain a machine on the inside

i.e. you are essentially putting things in and then fairy dusting it immediately

its just changed from you dropping something in to you picking from a menu, and i thought BC would be nice for this since you already got all this infrastructure for a menu that take ingredients and produces Thing

the particular usecase i had in mind is for wildflour's altelier goods, which has a number of machine recipes for producing basic components (e.g. kitchen mortar turns tea leaf to macha powder), if a feature like this is made the definitions are all still Data/Machines but wildflour can do a configurable edit to add the "can be a crafting station" tag, then people who want a different experience can use the kitchen mortar as a crafting station to make macha powder

[rough lintel]

just learned how to make a calculator in my console. this is epic bros

if statements who? i am a switch god

[rancid musk]

Well it should be simple enough to create a mod using the BC API that adds a recipe provider that automatically converts all machine recipes, and then people could just create a custom crafting station definition using existing tools. I'm not sure about the performance implication of converting every machine recipe though. Would need to test it. 🤔

[rich seal]

Hello, I've got a question regarding custom pets. I've looked into other modders' custom pet mods, and I've looked into the pets file in the game itself. I THINK I might be making progress, but one part of the code has me absolutely feeling like a deer in headlights; Behavior. My custom pet is currently just a turtle resprite (same dimensions, same sprite placement, etc) for learning purposes, so can I be lazy and just copy the whole code from the turtle section of the pets data, or do custom pets require more than just a quick copy paste in that regard?

[lucid iron]

The other thing that is ??? is how u can have GSQ based outputs

I can't imagine that playing well with bulk crafting

I shall investigate "separate mod add on to BC" then, thank

[lucid iron]

So if you just want pet to behave like cats or dogs or turtles you can just add a Breed

[rancid musk]

BC does every step of bulk crafting separately and stops if it can't stack the crafting output

[brittle pasture]

you can just add your turtle as a new breed for the Turtle pet

[lucid iron]

A custom pet is needed only if you want them to do something else, and it is a Whole Thing so i only know one wip mod that does it

[brittle pasture]

then you don't need to copy anything

ah woops didnt see chu's first reply

[true roost]

Is there a guide on how to update mods? Moving from pre 1.6.0 to 1.6.14

[lucid iron]

The big change is 1.6.9

[rich seal]

I understand that I could just use a new breed, and technically I could've just done an AT texture pack if that was the goal, but this is building up to making an actual new pet that isn't a turtle. I'm just using the turtle as a base to start.

[uncut viper]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Modding:Migrate_to_Stardew_Valley_1.6
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Modding:Migrate_to_Stardew_Valley_1.6.9

[lucid iron]

Ah wait i read wrong pre 1.6

What's the particular mod you want to update?

[true roost]

Egg Festival Winner Randomized

[rough lintel]

theres a 1.6 of that though

[true roost]

Doesn't work

[lucid iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/8574

Updated last feb

[true roost]

I know. I tried using it and it didn't work at all. Abigail would always win.

[lucid iron]

It doesn't work with SVE afaik

[true roost]

It's the only mod I run.

[rough lintel]

yeah the comments say it doesnt work at all now

[lucid iron]

That's unfortunate wondering what changed

[uncut viper]

nothings even changed since february though

[true roost]

My guess is that the script to determine random winner is ignored and it defaults. I checked the console and it does say that StringsFromCSFiles gets updated but nothing else is mentioned.

Sorry if that doesn't make sense. Completely new to modding haha.

[lucid iron]

And you don't have a y3 egg festival right

[true roost]

Nope. Year 1.

[uncut viper]

this is just a CP mod editing the script, i cant see anything that would have broken

are you sure it didnt just happen to randomize to abigail every time you tested? she does have a higher chance than the other contestants

[true roost]

Ran it 10 times

[uncut viper]

in the same year?

[true roost]

Yes.

I'd create a new save for each attempt

If terrible luck is the case, could I remove her from the winner pool to avoid it?

[uncut viper]

worth trying probably

you can just remove her names from the EFWinner dynamic tokens in the content.json

[true roost]

Yup. I should never play lottery as that was all bad luck.
Removing Abigail made another character the winner.

[calm nebula]

Did you restart the game 10x in one year

CP random is seeded

[true roost]

😄 No I just created a new save, slept for 12 days and attended it year 1.

[calm nebula]

Smth like unique game ID and days played

Oh, interesting....

[umbral plume]

wait egg festival winner?

[true roost]

Yes

[umbral plume]

I literally follow around Abigail/Jas+Vincent and grab the eggs in their path before them

Then I get winner lmao

[true roost]

The game is coded to always make Abigail the winner unless the player gets like 8. That mod makes it random if the player isn't the winner.

Thank you for you help, I would never have thought it was a bad luck issue.

[umbral plume]

wait what it is??? I've won year 1 before and other years by following her pattern and learning it, then zipping around and grabbing the ones in her and Jas/Vincent's path

Wins every time

[true roost]

By that time you probably had the required number for the game to count it as players win. You can take the route completely opposite of her and win.

[umbral plume]

ah i dont really know any coding ways thats just what I do 🤷‍♀️ thought id throw in my two cents in case it helped

[true roost]

It's alright

[umbral plume]

ILL GET IT RIGHT EVENTUALLY @lucid iron LOL

I DONT UNDERSTAND

WHY IS THE WARP POINT DIFFERENT WHEN YOU ENTER THE HOUSE THAN WHEN YOU LEAVE

IT SHOULD BE THE SAME SPOT RIGHT

[urban patrol]

no, the warps are set per each map

have you edited the Farm map at all?

[umbral plume]

yeah its replaced with one i made, but ive been working on it with chu for the past day or so

the changes ive made are minimal

[urban patrol]

okay, so you have to edit the warp on your Farm map to have the updated coordinates of the interior

if you're doing a Load you can edit the tmx, and if you're doing an Edit you have to do it in your json

[umbral plume]

gimme like 30 mins, gotta go pick soomething up

[uncut viper]

the Farm map itself doesnt contain a warp to the FarmHouse interior. it wouldnt be able to, bc you can move the farmhouse. the farmhouse itself sets its entryposition through some property iirc (otherwise hardcoded based on upgrade level)

[urban patrol]

(listen to button, button knows much more than me)

[lavish terrace]

hey, I want to make an AT pack that will enable me to change the texture for the greenhouse changed by Greenhouse Sprinklers (https://github.com/Bpendragon/GreenhouseSprinklers/blob/main/README.md) if I'm reading this correctly, the new ItemName entry should be "GreenHouseLevel0" (through 3), did I get that right?

[brittle pasture]

dont think so

these are upgrades via Data/Buildings entries, so you need to find the internal ID of what they're called

(also consider adding skins via CP instead of AT)

https://github.com/Bpendragon/GreenhouseSprinklers/blob/main/GreenhouseSprinklers/GreenhouseSprinklers/ModEntry.cs#L280

[lavish terrace]

I'm sorry idk what I'm looking at here

[brittle pasture]

GreenhouseSprinklers.Upgrade1, and 2 and 3

[lavish terrace]

ah, ok, thank you

oohhh ok it's this bit dict.Data.Add("GreenhouseSprinklers.Upgrade3", bd3); that says it I see now

sorry i donut recognize the language this is written in, I've only ever messed with jsons as far as sdv modding goes

[brittle pasture]

(also, huh, instead of changing the greenhouse upgrades' Texture field it invalidates Building/Greenhouse on saving/save load/Robin menu opened depending on the upgrade level)

(like, why)

[lavish terrace]

(idk but it frustrates me :'D)

[brittle pasture]

(okay, it's a 1.5 mod and custom buildings are not a thing back then so I'll chalk this up to "quick 1.6 migration code")

[lavish terrace]

ah, that makes sense

[brittle pasture]

(when you look at 1.5 mods that only got quick and minimal code changes to get it up and running in 1.6 you'd see some rather... cursed code)

[calm nebula]

Exhibit one: my entire repo

-# wait that was cursed before 1.6

[brittle pasture]

AtraCore still lives in our hearts

[calm nebula]

-# it doesn't in mine

[gaunt orbit]

👀 Object has an isPassable method you can override

I wonder if anything in vanilla uses that

[brittle pasture]

torch