making-mods-general

[rigid musk]

if its the quickest way there most likely yes

or if its the only way to get there

[sour sleet]

Oh that's good. It is the only way because they refuse to get the bus there haha. I was concerned I needed to make them walk to the warp tile manually

Aaaa she doesn't seem to be using the warp. She enters the bus stop and just stays still:c

Is there another way of getting the npc from the farmhouse to my custom location? It's accessible via bus only

It's a marriage schedule

[sour sleet]

Ok, so the wiki says "If omitted, defaults to the previous map, or if it's the first, it defaults to the bus stop". Mine is the first, so it's treating it as though i haven't given a location to go to. Hmm, this is stumping me.

[brave fable]

you could add an NPC-only warp from BusStop to your new location as a quick fix

or alternatively from BusStop to a new location with NPC warps to each of your locations as a warp-room

[sour sleet]

That's what I've done. I have patched the bus stop to contain an NPCWarp, but my NPC isn't using it

Will it even work that I've put the NPCWarp in the patch?

[brave fable]

if you added it correctly, it should not my wheelhouse though

[sour sleet]

The pink tile (just for clarity) is the warp. I've listed it as 0,1. Should it be relative to the bus stop's coords instead rather than the tiny patch?

[brave fable]

in what way 'listed as'?

just its position in the TMX patch file, or is it written elsewhere in a content file as 0 1?

[sour sleet]

I mean in the NPCWarp property within the map. The warp is 0,1, and I'm now thinking it should be 20,6. So instead of separating the patch from the bus stop

[brave fable]

properties are transferred from the tile in the patch file to the tile in the location map as-is, so an NPCWarp property will be correctly applied to the tile you expect in the final map

not sure how better to explain it

[sour sleet]

When the patch is actually applied, it will be a part of the bus stop, rather than on it's own

[latent mauve]

You're applying the new map property or edited map property through code, not in the TMX that's being patched in, correct?

Map patches don't respect new map properties typically

[brave fable]

NPCWarp is a tile property, isn't it?

[sour sleet]

I'm applying the NPCWarp map property in Tiled

[brave fable]

ah.

[latent mauve]

NPCWarp are map properties, so they'd need to be added to the map you are patching over, you can't set them in Tiled and expect them to be used unless it's a completely new map.

[brave fable]

what i said only applies to tile properties

[sour sleet]

Ahhh okee

[inland cedar]

I have an IClickableMenu. There I have a textbox listening to user input. However button T still triggers the chatbox open. How can I disable that?

[latent mauve]

Thankfully, Content Patcher has now added the very useful AddNpcWarps map property for use in CP code as of 2.6.0

[brave fable]

in order to get the same effect, you want to use the final map coordinates in your NPCWarp map property, and use TextOperation Append to add it to any possible existing NPCWarp map property rather than simply resetting it with your own value

oh bless

[latent mauve]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/stable/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editmap.md#edit-map-properties

[sour sleet]

Ok so I'm patching the bus stop. The tiny patch map has the NPCWarp included. I was trying to avoid patching the entire bus stop for obvious compat reasons haha

[latent mauve]

Yep, you can use an EditMap / Map Properties patch in your Content Patcher code with AddNpcWarps and it won't erase the existing NPC Warps

[brave fable]

in which case, you should remove the map properties from your patch file, and use CP to add the properties manually

[latent mauve]

It will automatically just append your new one to the Bus Stop map properties, as long as your Target is Maps/BusStop

[sour sleet]

Oh so I can do it all within CP, that's great. So I need to EditData the bus stop and my patch isn't needed?

[brave fable]

if your patch file is exclusively used to add the NPCWarp, then yes, you can discard it and instead use AddNpcWarps from CP

[past knot]

ping me for this but what should i use when it is not a locked door but players still must click on it to enter the location? Im a bit confused

[latent mauve]

so if you follow the link I gave you, they have a code example of AddWarps, AddNpcWarps will behave exactly the same but with NpcWarps instead of Warps

[sour sleet]

Ok, will give that a go. Thank you both

[latent mauve]

You're likely looking for the Action Warp <int x> <int y> <str area> tile property, which gets added as a TileData object attached to a tile on the Buildings layer of your map

[past knot]

Awesome, thank you!

[sour sleet]

Yay it works, so happy right now

[boreal pulsar]

I need to send a mail the first day of each season but unsure how to detect that trigger
should I send a letter to the player based on the
helper.Events.GameLoop.DayEnding or helper.Events.GameLoop.DayStarting ?
or completly something else

[lime seal]

From what I've heard for CP mail, day start is the better choice in that case

[brittle pasture]

also consider doing it in CP

[lucid iron]

in C# you can just call the addmail directly

its fine to not participate in the trigger actions unless you want to

[boreal pulsar]

content patcher?

[vernal crest]

Yup

[boreal pulsar]

well I just dont know how to check when to send it otherwise

[brittle pasture]

but yeah also doing it in C# is fine
if you dont already have a CP component

[boreal pulsar]

id prefer to do everything in C#
unless it will get too complicated

theoretically I would need 3 mail structurs,:
one announcing a quest was added (like QI quests ingame)
one containing the prize of the quest
one explaining the punishment for failing the quest
just gotta understand how the whole mail system works

[brave fable]

i personally recommend using CP whenever possible for compatibility, future-proofing, and extra lovelies like tokenisation and simple conditions; as well as just for separating custom behaviours from content and asset handling

generally also more readable and maintainable

[boreal pulsar]

mhh alr ill check how it works

[tiny zealot]

the "extra lovelies" are the real case for CP in my book. i started out doing everything via C# but found myself reimplementing a bunch of CP's features, and poorly

[brave fable]

it's also very simple to include your CP file structure within your VS solution so you can navigate your assets and data easily in your usual workspace

[boreal pulsar]

I tought CP was mostly for visuals so didnt look into it ahah

[brave fable]

thusly

CP is for content. any content at all. i load all my constant values and unique data models through json files via CP for all my C# mods

[boreal pulsar]

what is the difference/advantage?
(im just trying to understand)

I do have quite many constant values that I store in JSONs but I load them directly in c#

[vernal crest]

You can also use a LockedDoorWarp with open time 600 and close time 2600 if you still want the door noise but no actual locking :)

[tiny zealot]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/tokens.md
extremely powerful text replacement system built into CP for use in most of your content files. you could implement this yourself, but why should you

[brave fable]

means it's extremely simple to edit your values separately from your behaviours, and lets other mods edit them if they choose. also means you can conilditionally change your values and data in response to any and all tokenised conditions at any rate you choose in gameplay. extremely useful

we're using the word extreme a lot here but it's for good reason i assure u

[boreal pulsar]

yeah its that I dont believe you its just another step to learn
but ill try it, why not

I better find out early than later when im more down the line

[wide lake]

The "lets other mods edit" is the only part that matters, since you probably don't need any of that other stuff.

(right up until you do)

[boreal pulsar]

well theres a lot of stuff in there that look s interesting, like just the line "You can also make very dynamic changes to the game. For example, raise the price of coffee on winter weekend evenings when it's snowing unless the player married Abigail." since stuff like ths would be very helpful for my punishment system

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide.md#get-started the manifest and content.json are to be added in the new CP folder or in my own mod?

[brave fable]

technically you can do all that in a c# asset editor callback manually, but it won't be nearly as readable or editable

you want a new CP folder that's essentially a separate mod which loads and edits to asset targets you may or may not also reference from your C# mod

you can wrap these both in a superfolder for your convenience

[boreal pulsar]

mhh so like, theoretycall I could create a custom data that sets every item in pierre shop to 999mln $ and trigger it if you fail a quest

alr tomorrow ill dive into this thanks for recommending it 😄

[brave fable]

ah well that sounds like loops to me, which CP absolutely doesn't do lol

you could just wipe his shop data though with cp for the same effect, but unfortunately less insulting

[ivory plume]

(If you already have a C# mod, you can have the content pack as a subfolder in Visual Studio and let the mod build package automatically deploy + zip them as one superfolder. See the bundled content pack docs, and the Central Station code as an example.)

[boreal pulsar]

cant I turn on/off something like this containing all pierre's items?
maybe i havent understood correctly how it works (I barely understand Json)

[latent mauve]

Well, you can set the Shop Data to have a Price Modifier that uses Set Price

(I did this for my test mod with Leah selling all the spouse portraits because I didn't want to manually set prices for SVE/RSV/etc. portraits)

[boreal pulsar]

trough CP?

alr tomorrow ill check everything I can

[latent mauve]

Let me double check if that's on the shop or Items level

Yep, looks like you can set it on the shop level

[boreal pulsar]

Mhh interesting

I wonder if CP could help me organise all the challenge templates I have too

[rigid musk]

hmm How do I make an outfit/portrait only happen while at the flower dance? I know I can use the appearance system and I can set that up, but I only want the out fit to happen while he's there at the dance instead of that entire day (I'm uusing the DayEvent GSQ currently)

Challenge templates?

[brittle pasture]

IS_EVENT

[rigid musk]

Thanks Selph!

[boreal pulsar]

Ye my mod basically revolves around random monthly challenges/quests, giving rewards on completion and punishments on fail

Challenges would vary on very different kind of themes, from grow X crop to idk obtain y item to do Z thing etc

There would also be yearly quests, same principle but way harder to complete

Templates are a list of JSON containing ID, Name, description, tags (used to filter what type of completion a quest requires, wether harvesting a crop, catching a fish, completing CC, etc)

[latent mauve]

Pierre's shop actually already has a PriceModifiers value set by default, in case you were curious! "PriceModifiers": [ { "Id": "DefaultMarkup", "Condition": null, "Modification": "Multiply", "Amount": 2.0, "RandomAmount": null }

on the shop level

[boreal pulsar]

Is this in the base game or cp?

[latent mauve]

Base game

That's in the Data/Shops file

[boreal pulsar]

Oh yeah I gotta look into that

[rigid musk]

That sounds really cool! :D

[latent mauve]

So, your mod could either alter that DefaultMarkup modifier to use "Set" as the Modification and your amount to be whatever you wanted, or you could create an additional PriceModifier and use a Condition to activate it.

(if you do the second option, you may want to change the related ModifierMode to not be Stack anymore though, unless you want the shop set to your amount and THEN doubled.)

[boreal pulsar]

I'm trying to add some way to give challenge to player and at the same time "force" new kind of playstiles
I've played this game for so long but there's things I never did, and the "punishments" should help incentivise the player to go that way
Rewards too

[rigid musk]

not doing a quest and then the price of everything in a shop doubles is .. scary I like it

[boreal pulsar]

Ye punishments will be very harsh

Ugh another one would be that whenever you move, you're slowwalking

No idea how to implement this tbh

But it's not the time for that

I have to first make the proper assigning quest mechanics haha

[rigid musk]

This one might actually use C# ... that or some sort of SpaceCore wizardry

[latent mauve]

slowwalking could just be a speed "buff" with a lower/negative value, probably.

[boreal pulsar]

I might be wrong but I'd prefer to use c# and avoid other mods unless the advantages are very big

[rigid musk]

yeah that's why i mentioned spacecore, cause you could apply the buff with that value, though im not sure about the length of time thing

[boreal pulsar]

Tbh I can't wait to get to the point where I'm designing the "buffs, I have a very long list of many "fun" punishments

[rigid musk]

If you have to make something to do it you'll want to use a framework mod I will say, just to make sure you don't accidentally create some sort of incompatibility by making something yourself again

Im not sure if that made sense im a bit sleepy lol

[boreal pulsar]

Theoretically all punishments stack until u complete a quest
(If possible I'll make a difficulty config where you can switch this idk)

[boreal pulsar]

I was trying to make a framework mod at first but... Being my first mod, idk, I'm already learning bot c# and SMAPI at the same time

[boreal pulsar]

Wait U mean an external framework or one made by me

[latent mauve]

as a bonus, most (if not all?) Condition fields take GSQ, and there's the PLAYER_HAS_BUFF <player> <id>+ Game State Query that could be used if you apply a debuff to a player to make things trigger

So you could definitely escalate the punishments that way

[boreal pulsar]

Ye I'd like to add some debuff status icon for each of the punishments
But this would be like the end of the line

I first have to make the mail system, the quest system, and than start working on punishments

[rigid musk]

I meant finding an external one that already exists instead of making another one for the same thing - it's better for compatibility

[tacit sparrow]

Anyone recall the github link that contains a list of mod requests?

[sour sleet]

!modrequests

Oh? Nvm haha

I could have sworn it was a command

[brittle pasture]

!modideas

[ocean sail]

If you have a mod idea that you aren't planning to make yourself, you can put it in the mod ideas github: https://github.com/StardewModders/mod-ideas

However, this does not mean anyone is guaranteed to work on your idea—modders who are looking for ideas sometimes go through and work on what they find interesting off this list. If you want to pay someone to make your mod idea, there are a few people who do commissions (mostly art, sometimes code); you can ask around, search usernames for the word comms, or see !commissions.

To use this command, type !modideas.

[tacit sparrow]

Thanks

[versed wyvern]

Hmm... what's the proper setup for a minor NPC that I want to be able to speak but not have any of the functions like gifting and whatnot? I assume CanSocialize will completely disable any interaction so I'll have to set that to true and then set every other function to false?

[brittle pasture]

you want CanSocialize to false

you can still talk to them

like birthdays, gift giving, friendship, and an entry in the social tab

those are disabled

[versed wyvern]

Oh, really? I assumed "social features" referred even to speaking but okay, thank you

[woeful lintel]

just realized that the game applies transparency to objects being placed by setting the draw color to color = Color.White * alpha instead of color.A = alpha, which seems more intuitive to me

[brittle pasture]

you can look at the unpacked game itself for examples

[boreal pulsar]

Mhh yeah i Just gotta find one that does what I need

How do I know where to look up for something specific in the games source code?

I cant come here to ask for a specific function every time

Like, in this case I need to understand how to send a letter containing a forced quest (that triggers as you open the letter)

What would you your process of finding how to do rhis

Or in other words, what is your workflow/mind/toughs/process when looking for something int he unpacked code that you don't know,

[brittle pasture]

a good starting point is https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Index

then I look for references of the assets used in the source

in this case, there's a AddMail trigger action, so I look for what the game does when it triggers it

[boreal pulsar]

Thanks!
Idk why I forgot to scroll past the "make mods with c#"
And didn't see the whole list containing examples and explanations of so many things

[brave fable]

if you find the method of doing this in game data (i.e. via CP), usually a string command, you can often just search for that string in the decompiled solution to find the implementation.

[storm patrol]

Hey, would this be the right place if I would like to find someone to commission a mod for me? Yes, I would put up real world money if someone would create a mod for me implementing custom pathways in the game that illuminate at night.

[iron ridge]

!commissions

[ocean sail]

If you're looking for people who do mod commissions (either art or code), here's a wiki page with a non-comprehensive list of people who do them: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions

To use this command, type !commissions.

[storm patrol]

Thanks!!!

[rigid musk]

I wish I understood how to use dynamic tokens when making all of my dumb dialogue patches... its far too late to go through and change them all now (mostly because of how I did them) ... im glad I understand how to use them now though

dynamic tokens <33

[whole raptor]

Are there like... official Junimo colors for the ones in game? 😅 Cause I see the sprites are colorless

[sturdy wyvern]

working on a content patch to patch a different content patch with different images, the original content patch uses the Load Action to replace the vanilla assets with it's own, so i am wondering do i point the Target of my patch at the same vanilla target or do i have to do something else? (i have made sure that my patch loads after the original patch using dependencies in the manifest.json)

[whole raptor]

You target the same asset (if those are the ones you want to edit), but you need to use EditImage, not Load

[vernal crest]

Unless the original mod doesn't use Exclusive priority, you have to use EditImage like Nomori said. Loads are exclusive by default so if there isn't a Priority field in the original mod patch you can tell it is Exclusive.

[sturdy wyvern]

the original mod does not include a priority field

[vernal crest]

Then EditImage is what you are after

[sturdy wyvern]

alright thanks!

[exotic fiber]

How to make a mod? I have some ideas that I want to implement

[hard fern]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[frosty hull]

thanks, fixed

[woeful lintel]

Is there any doc or tutorial on how to format a data model to be passed as the Type in Load<Type> (the ExampleModel in this part of the doc https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Content#Let_other_mods_edit_your_internal_assets)
I tried making a basic class with property names matching the fields in my json but it doesn't seem to work (the instances returned by Load keep the default values I set in the class definition).

[grim latch]

Hello lovely people - a quick question re : farm maps

I made an edited farm map for my own use (I'm eventually going to upload it as a modular farm with multiple linked areas but it's not done yet)

It works perfectly in gameplay, but it breaks the intro cutscene for some reason I can't figure out

When Robin and Lewis should meet me on the farm it just loads without the characters in the map and gets stuck until I hit skip

Like this

[woeful lintel]

problem fixed for now: my dumbass wrote private set; on all fields, didn't think about the fact that SMAPI would have to set them...

[grim latch]

Any idea why? It's an edit based on the original farm map so I can't see any reason for it

[vernal crest]

I'm just guessing at possible issues, but is this a replacer farm map or a new one?

[grim latch]

I can upload the tmx if that helps?

New map, set as a custom farm type with CP

It was originally a standard farm replacer but I changed it to be a new farm type

[vernal crest]

Did it cause the intro problem when it was a replacer?

[grim latch]

yes

But I don't know why

I'm sure I'm missing something obvious

[vernal crest]

Did you resize the map and expand it up or to the left?

[grim latch]

Nope

Same size as the standard farm map, just a different layout

The farmhouse is in a different place, which might be the cause, but I was sure that issue was fixed in 1.6

as I've seen other custom farms with moved farmhouses

Unless it's because it's too close to the map exit maybe? I moved it right basically.

It's not a huge issue, but it is annoying.

[vernal crest]

Yeah it should be okay to move the farmhouse, but maybe it is too close to the edge of the map. Maybe try making a backup of your map and then moving the farmhouse back?

[whole raptor]

Also maybe check if those custom farms edit the intro event in any way? I'm just guessing here

[grim latch]

Yeah they don't - the logic for the intro was fixed to allow for modded farmhouse locations in the big modding changes with 1.6

But I'm at a loss as to why mine specifically doesn't work

I've just moved it back 5 tiles to see what happens

yep, that works

So it's a location issue that is probably hardcoded. How annoying

I guess I can try including an edited start event

I haven't changed events before so I'll have to look into that

Ah no it doesn't work on at least some other people's either

I think I need to talk to a more experienced farm map editor 😆

I'll have a look at DaisyNiko's and see how she's done it

Yeah there's an CP event edit in there. I'll have to figure that out

Thanks for the pointers 🙂

[vernal crest]

No worries. Happy to help if you run into issues with the event editing.

[whole raptor]

Do Junimos normally (as in in modded events and stuff) use breather effect..?

I'm not sure if I like it 😅

[worn spear]

I fear I have not noticed this

But I might just not pay attention

[whole raptor]

It looks like they are breathing through the top of their heads... which I don't know if I just never noticed, but it feels weird

[worn spear]

huh...?

thats an interesting choice I see the vision

but idk if i like the vision

[whole raptor]

It's just how it lines up with normal characters breathing rectangle, It's most likely not intended as Junimos aren't NPCs normally

[worn spear]

I think idle animations add a lot but I just dot know if i like the idea of head breathing is what I mean

[whole raptor]

Yeah, disabled it is then

[worn spear]

I just have until friday then I can just sit down and make mods all day

[grim latch]

Hmmmmmmmm editing events is a PITA

All those coordinates etc.

[worn spear]

A what

Omg the coords are so hard

It's so hard sometimes I empathize

[grim latch]

a pain in the....

I have never wanted to edit events and this is why

[worn spear]

ahhh yes I see I am working on a reworked seb mod and its the terrible to figure out

[grim latch]

Sadly it's necessary to make the farm intro event work on my map

[worn spear]

unfortunate

[grim latch]

ugggggggh this is gonna take me longer than making the map did 😆

[grim latch]

oh this sounds fun though

[worn spear]

I just wanted a aged up pretty normal seb its deffo inspired by Kantrips older seb but I took a less tragic route

idk how else to put it lmfao I just wanted a nerdy seb thats like mid 20s early 30s

[grim latch]

Yeah I get you.

Honestly all of the dateables could stand to be a lil older IMHO

[worn spear]

thats prob gonna end up being my project

I might just age everyone up and add a bit more depth

but first Sebastian

[grim latch]

Seb and Sam and Alex especially come off as very immature

Do not like

[worn spear]

agreed and I hope to fix that but I am about to graduate college so once thats done I can just get these mods done

I plan to do some tweaks to shane next as well

[grim latch]

Well definitely sounds like the kind of mod I would use 🙂

Are you making sprite / portrait edits or just doing the events and storylines?

[worn spear]

just events ik people have sprites they like to use

[grim latch]

yeah

[worn spear]

im also working out custom music but it turns out i can only make weird industrial stuff

so its not working well for me

[grim latch]

Awesome! I will keep an eye out for your mod(s) - what's your nexus page?

[worn spear]

MushroomMystic

I havent published yet but Im hoping to end of this month

[vernal crest]

Is Seb not already mid twenties in vanilla?

That's what I see him as

[worn spear]

he doesnt really act like it in my opinion

[vernal crest]

No he doesn't but my impression it's because he's too busy being sulky than because he's actually younger lol

[whole raptor]

I definitely see him as a brooding teenager

[worn spear]

yeah

thats what i dont love

[vernal crest]

Doesn't he have an IT job?

[worn spear]

yes

[vernal crest]

So he's got to at least finished university

[worn spear]

no

he hasnt

I think hes self taught

[vernal crest]

Wow my English is good tonight

He's lucky having an IT job being self-taught then

[worn spear]

its freelance

i think

[whole raptor]

Honestly? I'm starting to believe getting and IT job is easier when you're self taught and motivated than after 5 years of uni...

[calm nebula]

Not necessarily

[worn spear]

the CS dept at my school is actually awful

so yeah

[calm nebula]

It's a lot ☆☆easier☆☆ to get a tech job in you have a degree

[worn spear]

in my mod hes getting his masters

if its freelance it depends

[calm nebula]

But it isn't necessarily needed, and many great people (ie Pathos) don't have a degree

(My personal take is that Sebastian is self taught.)

[worn spear]

thats what I thought

[vernal crest]

Now that I have read his vanilla dialogue, he says he doesn't even have a job

[worn spear]

he says he freelances in two heart event?

[calm nebula]

It does? He has this entire heart event where he's working and tired of getting disturbed?

[worn spear]

maybe freelance =/= job?

[calm nebula]

He's between jobs when the dialogue comes up

Or, maybe, more like he doesn't have a current client

[grim latch]

Apparently dateables are mostly 19 - 22

[calm nebula]

No idea what he freelances in

[worn spear]

one of my friends says I need to make it so the farmer has a casual math PhD (idk how i would do this and idk if he gets the game)

[grim latch]

I guess Harvey is older, what with being a fully qualified doctor

[calm nebula]

Harvey is at least 30 though

[worn spear]

so is shane

right

[calm nebula]

Yup

Also, leah on the girl's side

[worn spear]

I should be evil and make people lose ALL friendship with seb if they cant derive a dual lagrangian

[whole raptor]

Elliot also doesn't really feel that young

[worn spear]

he feels 25-27 but not 30

[calm nebula]

Yeah, the guys seem older in general

[worn spear]

not alex

or sam

[whole raptor]

Alex feels like a uni jock tbh

Sam does feel younger

[worn spear]

he screams hockey player to me

[whole raptor]

Then there's Abby... who feels way too young most of the time

[worn spear]

yes

this is why I wanna do a project where I age up everyone

[grim latch]

Oh boy am I fed up of trying to get the intro event working on my farm map already

I'm gonna leave it broken until I actually get around to publishing the finished version with all the modular locations

[worn spear]

you dont know how jelly I am of u rn

even tho its broken

I dont wanna do real analysis

[whole raptor]

That's be awesome! But feels like treading a thin line between making them feel older and making them feel like a different character 😅

[calm nebula]

Also, aside. I'm surprised y'all call general programming IT

[worn spear]

I dont want to at all

[calm nebula]

IT to me means fixing computers

[worn spear]

I think It will be fine, I do a lot of revisions and want to have a good amount of people to give me what they think

my biggest fear is people will have issues with the way I write romance

[grim latch]

It's basically a standard farm but it has extra locations that mimic the properties of other farms

So like a quarry area, an orchard, etc. all on their own maps reachable from the main farm

[worn spear]

and I dont like writing characters that are dependent on the farmer and ik a lot of people like that trope

[grim latch]

Also I just learned that multiple farm maps are now supported for building on in the base code!

[calm nebula]

Meh, if people have issues, maybe the mod isn't for them

[grim latch]

Actually I prefer characters to have a bit of agency of their own

[calm nebula]

(And that's fine)

[grim latch]

Makes it feel more real

[opaque field]

Yes

[whole raptor]

Balance is good, some occasional personal moments where NPC feels dependent or vulnerable with the farmer can be good, but they do NEED to have lives besides the farmer

[worn spear]

yeah I plan to have sassy replies if the farmer tries that

One dialog is like "lots of bad things happen there" to talking about seb when he was in the city

the reply is thats weird to say I have to leave now

I dont like it when people assume the worst or push bounderies if that makes sense even if its just a little npc so I coded it in to not allow that and almost always just ends the interaction

[opaque field]

my Sweet and Sour mod relies very little on the farmer - I just have like 2 pages of cute little headcannons about Sam and Shane as friends/coworkers and how it affects how Seb and Abigail interact with Shane too. Like Shane appreciates that Seb has a vice.

[worn spear]

Im going to be working on some events that just exist outside of the farmer

most of my goal is to make it so it doesnt feel like the emotions reply on the farmer

[opaque field]

I love that.

[worn spear]

they are people on their own and dont just let the farmer pry or push boundaries and be a good thing where they open up or whatever

[opaque field]

Sam being honestly annoyed with you for bothering him or Shane at work "listen I appreciate how friendly you are but it's kinda rude you come in here all the time when we're working"

[worn spear]

this is some of the dialog I have been working out after a heart event where the farmer ovehears a convo w seb

[whole raptor]

I mean... that's great, but how would the game know it's not the first time the farmer did that

[worn spear]

I LOVE BOUNDERIES 🥹

[opaque field]

That's what I'm still trying to figure out

[vernal crest]

$1 dialogue command!

Shows one line the first time you talk to them and another line afterwards.

[opaque field]

oh yeah! I was looking through those yesterday.

[calm nebula]

(Or something with actions, queries, and stats)

[opaque field]

A combo of both maybe?

[whole raptor]

Speaking of figuring things out... What would be the best approach if I want several blocks of code start at the same time? Like for example

• Block 1: NPC A starts moving and jumping for 5 seconds
• Block 2: NPC B starts dancing for 10 seconds
  I don't think adding true can work, since some of these would need pauses in them

[vernal crest]

Yeah if you want it to be more than just first vs every other time you have to get more complex.

[opaque field]

beginsimultaneouscommand? - though that's more event specific idk if that'll help here

[vernal crest]

Lots and lots and lots of trial and error lol

[vernal crest]

Nope, that is not for simultaneous actions like this

I assumed Nomori was talking about events

[whole raptor]

Yep

[vernal crest]

For his wedding event

[opaque field]

ahhhhh, okay.

[vernal crest]

Using [continue] and pauses is how I would do it

[woeful lintel]

Hey, I'm reading the docs you linked and trying to wrap my head around how all of this works, and there are a few things I don't really understand yet:

• How to properly parse the json string into a JToken (there's only an example snipper for WriteJson)
• How to properly cast the modified json structure to my data Model (again, there's only an example snipper for WriteJson)
• How do I tell SMAPI to use the JsonConverter I wrote so that its used when parsing FF content files
  Thanks for all the help you and others already gave me yesterday, it has been very useful to see in what direction to progress.

[vernal crest]

(And I am apparently a great user of simultaneous movements)

[calm nebula]

Smapi has examples!

But also, it's usually just registered as an attribute

[whole raptor]

Yeah... that might be the only way... so I'm gonna have to mix a lot of different NPC actions together... god, that's gonna look awful (and be even worse to write)

[calm nebula]

https://github.com/atravita-mods/StardewMods/blob/1296271e856e7b801f1ba1dd15ad30fe31ab5b2c/EastScarp/Models/TimeRange.cs#L138

On the type or on the property

[vernal crest]

As long as you do it multi-lined it will look beautiful :P

[whole raptor]

I am writing it semi multi-lined (as in blocks) for sanity reasons, but still doubt it

[vernal crest]

I don't do blocks because it makes testing harder

[woeful lintel]

that's a perfect example, thanks! I'll get into implementation another day.

[vernal crest]

Every single command on its own line, then it's extremely easy to comment commands out

And I have to do a LOT of commenting commands out when I make events

[whole raptor]

We can comment lines out within an event?

[worn spear]

not me doing it with JSONS and just having redlines everywhere

[vernal crest]

Because they break incredibly easily when you do simultaneous actions

You can write comments in the middle of events too

Having them all on their own lines means I can comment out (or back in) as many commands at once as I want to

[grim latch]

Is there a way to write an event in a seperate file and then have it loaded into the CP content.json wholesale as an event edit?

[woeful lintel]

I'm surprised nobody made an event editor integrated in the game yet.

[grim latch]

That would be SO much easier than trying to edit the damn thing all in one line in my content.json

[vernal crest]

I think you are describing Includes

That screenshot of mine was not of the content.json

[whole raptor]

The -- is the comment?

[grim latch]

yeah I can see

[vernal crest]

Yup

[whole raptor]

Huh, never seen it done like that, but that's very useful indeed

[vernal crest]

This is what's in my content.json

[grim latch]

will look into this

[vernal crest]

You can't use // or /* */ comments inside an event, the double hyphen is the only option

[grim latch]

ahhhh that will make life so much easier! Can you do that to edit an existing event or do I just overwrite it completely with a new include?

[calm nebula]

The -- is actually part of the game parser

[vernal crest]

Includes are just a way of organising your files. They have no impact on how edits are actually performed (ignoring LocalTokens). https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-include.md

[grim latch]

If I can just type it out line by line in another file it will make editing the intro event with the correct coordinates for my new farm WAY easier

[whole raptor]

That explains why it's the first time I'm seeing this

[vernal crest]

I mean it doesn't matter whether it's in your content.json or another file as to whether you can multi-line it.

[calm nebula]

At work one of the languages uses ; as a comment

[vernal crest]

This is what the top of my events.json file looks like (after the gigantic pile of comments at the top)

[whole raptor]

That... feels like it'd be very confusing...

[grim latch]

But does action type "include" permit edits to existing events?

Normally you'd use

"Action":"EditData",
"Target":"Data/Events/BusStop",

for example

But include seems to be it's own thing?

[vernal crest]

See my screenshot. The EditData action is inside the included file

[woeful lintel]

29 lines of comments isn't too bad

[grim latch]

Oh yeah, gotcha!

That is FANTASTIC news.

[vernal crest]

Some people find it incredibly weird that I have any comments before my actual json at all lol

[woeful lintel]

Idk, it seems like you wrote doc for each file at the top

[calm nebula]

Speak command with optionals not working was fixed in 1.6.9

[vernal crest]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Event_data#Comments

[vernal crest]

I have not revisited this event since we updated from 1.6.8 lol

[grim latch]

Now one more question : is there an easy way to convert an existing event to multi-line format?

[whole raptor]

My i18n files basically have ascii art esque shit in them, so I can't say anything

[median forum]

i like it. it's stylish

[stark spindle]

haha glad im not the only one who does that

[vernal crest]

Same lol

[calm nebula]

Python 😛

[vernal crest]

In VSC, yes. linkoid made a plugin

[whole raptor]

Oh? 👀

[vernal crest]

I use it to read vanilla and other mods' events

[grim latch]

AMAZING

[worn spear]

OMG FR?????

I did not know this

[stark spindle]

I just use notepad++ macros to do a search and replace for / to /newline and back

[vernal crest]

https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=linkoid.stardew-syntax&ssr=false#overview

[worn spear]

when i first started coding i used notepad

not notepad++

[grim latch]

You are a lifesaver

[opaque field]

I love that plugin

[vernal crest]

Oh yeah Limey taught me how to do that too. Doesn't work nearly as well for forward slash at the end, sadly.

[grim latch]

ouch.

[worn spear]

I was doing mc coding in JSONs it was brutal there was like 1k lines

[grim latch]

I mostly use Sublime for everything. VSC for coding.

I've made Sublime replace Notepad completely on my system

[opaque field]

I've grown fond of VSC but I still use texteditor sometimes.

[stark spindle]

really? i wouldn't think it would matter but i am a / at the start kinda guy

[worn spear]

VSC and intellij for java always

NO MATTER WHAT MY TA TELLS ME 😡

[vernal crest]

The way I tried it, at least, made it go funky. I will admit I didn't try too hard because of having the plugin already.

[opaque field]

My colorscheme for VSC and text colors are so helpful for me to have a visual cue

[grim latch]

It's a bit too heavyweight for non-coding stuff, hence Sublime

Honest to god @vernal crest you have saved my sanity

[stark spindle]

yeah makes sense. i ended up writing up a whole syntax highlighter in notepad++ before i found out about the vsc one.

[grim latch]

Thank you SO MUCH

[opaque field]

Very true. I only started using it when I started showing interest in C# and my fiance put me onto some classes that use VSC

[vernal crest]

I currently have 18 tabs open in Sublime as well as 4 VSC windows with 4+ tabs open each lol

[opaque field]

I don't know much about sublime tbh

[worn spear]

same lmfao

[vernal crest]

It has come to replace N++ for me

[opaque field]

Oh good there's a linux version

[vernal crest]

It has really, really fast find in files searching

Waaaaaay faster than N++

[grim latch]

Sublime is incredible

Not free, but well worth the licence

[vernal crest]

It is free

You can just ignore the reminders about paying

[grim latch]

Well, yes, you can

But I don't mind throwing them a licence fee. It's good sofware.

[whole raptor]

I think I'm too used to regular syntax higlighting... it looks weird to me 😅

[grim latch]

Although I have been "evaluating" Reaper for about 4 years now 😆

[vernal crest]

Oh you don't need to use the highlighting. I just use it to convert single line to multi-line

[grim latch]

What does the initial -1000, -1000 line do ?

[stark spindle]

has anyone written up an event syntax highlighter for sublime?

[vernal crest]

Sets the viewport to way off in the void

It's how to control fades

[grim latch]

ahhhh that makes sense

I have never done any event stuff before

[vernal crest]

Not that I've heard of but I've never gone looking

Argh I am certain this event was working last time I had it like this

[stark spindle]

Cool I might have a look in to making that so. Seems fairly doable.

[vernal crest]

Now it is broken in a new way

[worn spear]

yippie!

love when that happens

[whole raptor]

How long is a tick (or a single instant command) in miliseconds? (trying to compare it to pause)

[grim latch]

although I still can't see why it doesn't work :/

The coordinates all look ok now

bah

[vernal crest]

I think there's usually 60 ticks per second

Are you asking because you're looking at beginSimultaneousCommand?

(Nomori)

[blissful panther]

I think the tick rate is only ever 60 per second?

[whole raptor]

Nope, mostly out of curiosity, partially to plan the command order (no idea if that makes sense)

[blissful panther]

So it'll be 16.666~ milliseconds... if that assumption is correct.

[vernal crest]

I will be extremely impressed if you manage to plan out successful parallel action in advance

[stark spindle]

If I wanted to have a mail be delivered 3 days after an event can I do that with the event memory? I can only see _memory_oneday or _memory_oneweek

[vernal crest]

Nope you will need to set your own CT

[stark spindle]

ok cool thanks

[whole raptor]

I definitely won't, but it might be good to know

[vernal crest]

Thank goodness for event tester letting me speed through this event

[calm nebula]

No human will notice 16ms

There is a pause for specific time command iirc

[vernal crest]

Yeah I don't know if you can even use the pause command without the duration argument

[tiny zealot]

i would say "wrongo" but sometimes i forget i'm not human

[calm nebula]

I'm glad I don't notice anymore tbh

But tbh I'll notice frame drops but if two npcs start animating, one frame apart, is fine

Don't care

[vernal crest]

ichor, remind me what you use viewport unfreeze instead of?

[calm nebula]

The events system is Fun

I'm also, tbh, pretty forgiving of event jank b/c with all the mods ever, doing mod compat with events can be hell

Ie, did Penny just walk through a chair? Well. The modder probably didn't expect this particular modded interior map

It's fine

[tiny zealot]

i use viewport x y true to move the viewport and fade in, instead of moving the viewport and using globalFadeToClear. i don't think it actually maps to unfreeze when called that way

[vernal crest]

I am extremely forgiving of other mods' event jank. And intensely unforgiving of my own lol

[opaque field]

^^^me

And I have 15 events scripted currently

[calm nebula]

Meanwhile I do not with events haha

[tiny zealot]

i cannot allow jank in my own events. i have written new event commands to get around the jank and i'll do it again

[blissful panther]

You've technically made events!

[calm nebula]

Ichor you and I have a weapon in our back pockets

If we get annoyed enough, new event command it is

[vernal crest]

Oh right string option was unfreeze. You use shouldFade.

Well globalFadeToClear is currently what is breaking this event so perhaps I should explore shouldFade instead.

[whole raptor]

Ah... I was hoping I was majorly overthinking all of this if animate had [continue] parameter... but it doesn't

[vernal crest]

Does animate stop time while it happens? That seems surprising.

[calm nebula]

I've technically done a lot of things 😛

[blissful panther]

When I get around to the events I need to make, I do worry I'll end up with way too many event commands to make things... nicer.

[calm nebula]

One day I'll technically go release a knitting pattern and make no money from it

[tiny zealot]

pretty sure animate does not block

[whole raptor]

Oh yeah... it shouldn't stop it since there stopanimation

Yay

[vernal crest]

I've yet to use animate

[calm nebula]

Dh expansion when

[vernal crest]

I'm too attached to TAS

[blissful panther]

I'm already slowly doing it!

[calm nebula]

Also do you guys buy Mr. Qi as a r/wallstreetbets guy

[patent lance]

https://reddit.com/r/wallstreetbets

[calm nebula]

Dammit maru

People don't go there it's a cesspool

[vernal crest]

Hmm maybe it's breaking because they're using shouldFade and globalFadeToClear

[calm nebula]

My entire justification is that he owns a casino

[vernal crest]

I do not know enough about wallstreetbets to comment on Qi's affiliation

[calm nebula]

And I need a risky day trade type to balance the gentle long term hedge your bets

[blissful panther]

(Also holy hell! Activity! )

[tiny zealot]

@grim latch make sure the farmer is in your list of actors for the event

[grim latch]

I am literally just using the default intro event and changing coordinates

Farmer appears at the bus stop as expected

but when it comes to the change location bit, nothing.

It's got to be related to my tmx file somehow

But I can't see any reason why it wouldn't work

[vernal crest]

Does the farmer appear if you put them at different coords that are further to the left?

[grim latch]

I'm gonna try that now

The weird thing is those tiles are basically identical to the standard map

very odd

no moving the farmer start point didn't help either

I am at a loss

[whole raptor]

I'm curious if people will even notice the little spy

[grim latch]

oh wait does the farmer need to be in the viewport?

Might be that they're outside?

[vernal crest]

You mean the camera can't see tile 78 17?

[grim latch]

yeah, possibly, although again that's the same as the default event

and the map size is identical

[vernal crest]

You can use Debug Mode to check what the coords of each tile are during the event

So you can be certain whether 78 17 is visible

[grim latch]

they're supposed to be walking in from the right as the scene starts - Robin is, but the farmer just isn't there

but no, can't be that, because I moved the farmer's warp in point so they're definitely in view.

Ugh.

I really hate this.

[vernal crest]

Yeah unfortunately events are...like this.

You could try running your custom event on the standard farm and see if the farmer is visible there

Just to narrow down whether it's an event issue or specific to your map

[grim latch]

I feel like it's the map file, somehow, but I just don't understand why

[vernal crest]

Farms have a lot of hardcoding. You might be running into some.

[blissful panther]

I could swear I remember something on farm maps with events and the player position... but I couldn't tell you exactly what it was, or if it actually existed.

But a memory is tingling back there somewhere.

[calm nebula]

Yes

There is. BUT it shouldn't be an issue here

Because the event itself starts on busstop

[blissful panther]

Oh, then yeah, that shouldn't... apply...

[grim latch]

Ok the event isn't being edited at all.

I added a line of dialog to the bus stop to prove it was working and no luck

cries

but the content.json is apparently ok

oh god I am an idiot.

There was a TYPO in my When : clause

[vernal crest]

Oh dear

[grim latch]

goddamnit.

[vernal crest]

Happens to us all, don't worry

[blissful panther]

You're eligible to join the club now, yeah.

[vernal crest]

I spent aaaaaages the other day with no clue why my dialogue and schedule weren't working before finally realising I'd never loaded them

Woo I think I have finally figured out the issue with this event!

Yesss it broke that is good

[whole raptor]

Raven is sneaking, Junimos are dancing... now the raccoons...
Are they part of some vanilla events that I can debug ebi? I looked through forest events, but didn't see anything that matched

[vernal crest]

Hardcoded I'm guessing

[lucid iron]

The raccoon dancing

[vernal crest]

Yeah

[whole raptor]

Yeah, the animation is what I'm interested in, also if I could use IDs to make their appearance (and number) dependent on already seeing it

[grim latch]

Ok it's loading.....

Still no farmer though.

I hate events so much

[vernal crest]

Do you want to send it to me and I can play around and see if I can figure it out?

[grim latch]

Maybe.

I'm gonna try warping them in to a totally different spot first and not have them walk anywhere and see what happens

That's very kind of you to offer

ah ha

so for some reason, the warp location is actually two tiles adrift from where I set it 🤔

I set the warp location to 70, 17

But the farmer is appearing on 72,17 when I check with debug mode

which would have put his intended spawn point outside the map

still...... why?

this makes no sense :/

I mean I guess I can just.... subtract two from my warp in points?

maybe

[vernal crest]

Curious. I wonder if it's related to the farmer speed being set lower than usual.

Seems unlikely though given the farmer doesn't move again until after the warp

[grim latch]

oh maybe

but lewis also warps in two squares further over than he should be

and he isn't moving at all at that point

[calm nebula]

There may be hardcoding

[grim latch]

There's just a very odd 2 square difference 😆

Anyway, that does in fact seem to be the issue as now I've adjusted the coordinates my farmer is spawning in where I wanted them

Now I just need to tidy up the movements and face direction commands

[lucid iron]

What is the goal of event

[grim latch]

I am literally just trying to edit the welcome event at the start of my game so it works on my modded map

[vernal crest]

Not be broken by custom farm lol

[grim latch]

I hate event scripting 😛

It is, however, now working

Between my typo in my content.json and the random 2 square differential on the map that took way longer than it needed to

[worn spear]

Ah love that for you it's always the little things isn't it

[grim latch]

I still don't understand why the tiles are 2 squares adrift from the script.

[worn spear]

I get to take my last final then thankfully my biggest issues will be ones related to passion projects

[whole raptor]

I'm guessing there's no way to check if farmer saw a specific dialogue from Strings?

[vernal crest]

Not without editing the dialogue to add something to check, I don't think. Unless that dialogue happens to be a question.

[whole raptor]

Eh, I give up then, lonely raccoon in the corner it is then

Or not... he's bigger that a human in the files

[crude plank]

Huge racoon in the corner*

[whole raptor]

Okay, yeah... he doesn't seem that big in game

[crude plank]

He's long

[whole raptor]

Chonky

[vernal crest]

Oh the dancing sprites are in mrs_raccoon by the way

[whole raptor]

Hmm... I probably won't do the dancing sprites, since I have no way of checking if player already saw it, I'll just treat it as a raccoon chilling in the woods and encountering the wedding by accident (also I just noticed it's the wife, not the husband )

[drowsy pewter]

is there a debug command to mark a trigger action unapplied I know there's a trigger action action to do it

[upper rune]

So I'd like to give my recipes the config option of being vanilla or being able to incorporate Cornucopia ingredients. I'm trying to look at Culinary Delight as a guide but the recipe replacements aren't making sense to me. Is there a way to just if vanilla true use this phrase, if cornucopia true use this phrase?

[whole raptor]

Why did the Raven broke for no reason

[upper rune]

I don't know why the new recipes have like xy coordinates

[drowsy pewter]

We dont have if statements, you just write two patches and make sure the second patch has the conditional When for having cornucopia

the second patch will be the one that applies in the end if it's valid

In a larger scale (such as for hundreds of recipes), this can also be done by using Include to have two separate files that have all your recipe data for either setting, and the conditional cornucopia file is patched in second

[upper rune]

ok, i'll try that. only like 12 or so recipes so should be fine to keep to one file location

[drowsy pewter]

for recipes with xy coordinates you might be looking at code for spacecore recipes, which allows for more features but is a lot more complicated

[upper rune]

ok, not sure what i'm looking at there

[vernal crest]

Yes, you can use any trigger action in debug commands with debug action

[drowsy pewter]

smart!

[whole raptor]

Is there anyone here who used ignoreMovementAnimation? I'm trying to use it in a way so it also doesn't show the directional end sprite... and I swear it somehow worked before, but after I added some more movement and animations for other actors the directional frame suddenly showed up

[tender bloom]

I think I know what I did wrong — I just didn't even realize the crop drops could be vanilla items, so I assume they're JA items and try to "fix" them. Obviously this does not work! and then I return null I can fix this easily in a way that isn't elegant, but I want to think for a min about if there's a generally better way

Basically, I have a method that goes in and "fixes" old IDs

I can either check if the product is an integer and not "fix" it, or I can build into the "fixing" method a way to check if it's a vanilla item

Bad things that can happen if I check for integer: I probably should instead call the vanilla method for checking if something is an item

(there are integers that are NOT valid items)

[whole raptor]

Huh... okay, it seems that for whatever reason, if I use the move command for a temporary actor few commands before that one it breaks the ignoreMovement and if I delete it, it works completely fine

[tender bloom]

hrhrhrm there could be name collisions I catch if I change the fix method

for example, suppose someone creates a CP mod to make StrawberryShortcake — I might accidentally make a JA mod produce that StrawberryShortcake because it would be a valid item in the game (appearing as vanilla)

I think the nicest fix is to check if integer, then check if the integer is a valid item

This doesn't catch the case where JA used to let you specify vanilla items by name instead of by integer

Maybe I already thought about this for recipes?

[vernal crest]

Yup I use it to make Hiria jump backwards. It didn't seem to work with advanced move. What do you mean the directional end sprite? End of what?

[whole raptor]

move <actor> <x> <y> <direction> [continue] the <direction> here, as in where the actor is facing at the end of the movement

I use showFrame immediately after it to skip to a different one immediately

[whole raptor]

And it works fine, unless this 😅

[vernal crest]

So you're trying to get them to go from their walk frame straight into a totally different one instead of going into their standing frame?

[tender bloom]

ugh it's been so long since I wrote C# I'm rusty

[whole raptor]

Yeah, kinda, more like move without a walk frame and then into the specified frame

[vernal crest]

Maybe you could try using halt or waitForAllStationary after the temp actor has moved.

[whole raptor]

Huh, halt seems to did the trick, thanks!

I wonder why it happened tho

[upper rune]

So when the config is toggled on for flexible recipes everything shows up, but when it's toggled off none of the recipes show up. Also, I'm pretty sure I'm using the correct ID for Cornucopia oregano and it's asking for a house plant in the recipe...

https://smapi.io/json/none/5305701bd488417eae49712bb5c0e8e0 Part of it is probably me reusing the Entries section but why the house plant

[whole raptor]

I tried waitForAllStationary out of curiosity too... and that doesn't work

[brittle pasture]

you have a block for "flexible_recipes": "On",; do you have another one for Off?

I'm assuming that's what the second Entries block is for, in which case you have to split that one off into another Change block

[upper rune]

No, I thought the conditional section replaces the rest which is default? I can make an off section though

[brittle pasture]

an entry cannot have two Entries block

[vernal crest]

Interesting! I've got some stuff in my event that only works if I use waitForAllStationary. Using halt doesn't.

[brittle pasture]

make a separate one

[whole raptor]

Feels good to be so close to finishing... but the worst part of making a mod approaches... making a mod page

[vernal crest]

It doesn't have to be bad if you don't put any effort into it /j

[upper rune]

https://smapi.io/json/none/f98bc8e5a34a4f3ab276de55ddb26fc0 It's telling me I shouldn't have a second Changes section

[whole raptor]

I don't put almost any effort for most Buuut I kinda feel like this one deserves it

[vernal crest]

You should not, I think Selph misspoke (or was meaning another patch when they said Change block, not sure). If you remove lines 60 through 63 I think it will be ok.

[tender bloom]

Is there a difference between StardewValley.ItemRegistry.Exists(itemName) and StardewValley.ItemRegistry.GetDataOrErrorItem(itemName).IsErrorItem?

[vernal crest]

Yeah it does, good mod pages get more attention I think.

[upper rune]

I'm not sure how to nest the When and Entries sections

Does the When go within the entries then?

[vernal crest]

The when field is the same level as entries.

So not inside

[upper rune]

but then i would have to repeat entries, wouldn't i?

[odd ginkgo]

hey all! very quick question, also related to When conditions - if I want something to NOT appear during a specific time, how do I negate a when condition? Like say

"When": {
"DayEvent": "dance of the moonlight jellies" }

but I actually want to to be the opposite, I want to not happen on that DayEvent

[drowsy pewter]

i would suggest that someone send a corrected json file for them if possible?

[vernal crest]

No, if you remove lines 60 through 63 you should have two blocks that look like this

{
    "Action": "EditData",
    "Entries": {
        // Entries in here
     },
    // And so on
},
{
    "Action": "EditData",
    "Entries": {
        // Entries in here
     }
    // And so on a second time
}

[whole raptor]

... this event is haunted

HOW?

[upper rune]

Oh so I repeat the action section

[vernal crest]

"DayEvent contains dance of the moonlight jellies": false

Syntax not correct because I can't remember it but it's on the CP tokens page

[spice inlet]

Exists probably just checks if the data exists, while with IsErrorItem you're first trying to parse the itemdata then checking if it returned an error object

[vernal crest]

Ctrl-f for "contains" should find it

[brittle pasture]

not two Changes blocks, two blocks within Changes

[odd ginkgo]

thank you! That gives me a good clue

[vernal crest]

Yes, everything within those curly braces at the level of Action or further in is called a patch

[whole raptor]

"DayEvent |contains=dance of the moonlight jellies": false

[vernal crest]

Thanks Nomori

I can never remember the pipe

[brittle pasture]

at work rn so cant talk much but you can check out something very similar to what you're trying to achieve here
https://github.com/zombifier/My_Stardew_Mods/blob/master/CP_Mods/ChickenFeed/Data/craftingrecipes.json#L1

[upper rune]

Thank you that's definitely working correctly now. But I still don't know why it thinks oregano is a house plant

[drowsy pewter]

You're missing a quanitity for carrot

it's shifted everything by one place and it thinks your next ingredient is 1

[upper rune]

OOOH damn weird that doesnt mess up the carrot part lol

[whole raptor]

So halt makes this frame appear for whatever reason... have I mentioned how much I hate event scripting?

[tawny ore]

@woeful lintel would you mind if I DM'd you? I'm looking into a possible integration with Furniture Framework that I'd like to discuss with you.

[tender bloom]

@lime seal when you get a chance, can you test this version? I think this fixes the issue.

[odd ginkgo]

thanks ya'll, that was the fastest bug fix I've ever been able to do

[odd ginkgo]

event scripting makes my brain hurt

[proud idol]

Is there any workaround way to use SMAPI's ReadJsonFile function with a file path that isn't relative to the mod's directory?

[lucid iron]

Yes but it's crimes

What are you trying to do here

[proud idol]

My mod adds bags to the game that can store various items. Users can create their own bags in json format and my mod loads the .json files. But some users have reported issues where their custom bags aren't opening after they update my mod, and I think it's because they accidentally did a clean install of the new mod version (thus deleting their custom bag json files) instead of updating by merging the files. So I want to add a setting that let's them specify additional folders to load custom bags from

I need to load json files from other paths

[lucid iron]

Put your bag data in global app data then

[uncut viper]

i would write those jsons to the app data folder and not an arbitrary folder

exists for this purpose basically

[lucid iron]

This will not be overwritten because it lives next to the save files

Mod save data also an option

If u want it to be tied to a particular save

[uncut viper]

theres global data which is not per save and save data which IS per save

but the former allows the files

the latter is just data

so dont get them confused

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Data#Global_app_data

[proud idol]

You can use ReadJsonFile with paths in Global app data? The documentation says the path must be relative to the Mod folder

[lucid iron]

It doesn't say that

[uncut viper]

presumably your json files are serialized and deserialized into some model

[lucid iron]

But also you aren't the person writing the jsons in this case

[proud idol]

string path: The file path relative to the mod folder

[lucid iron]

You just give it a model to write

[uncut viper]

you wouldnt be using ReadJsonFile, you'd be using ReadGlobalData

[proud idol]

hmm that one says it's parameter is 'key', is that the file path?

[lucid iron]

So smapi namespaces your path when u use global app data

They all live in same folder and then the key become different file names yes

[calm nebula]

Tbh I would also strongly consider loading through the content pathway

You can trivially provide a new directory you just need to use newtonsoft directly

[lucid iron]

I recommend just trying it and see

The reason why i didn't bring up content pipeline is just cus it sounds like a user config thing not a other mods adding new bags (e.g. item bags)

[proud idol]

I was thinking of using newtonsoft directly but I saw in the smapi source code it had a bunch of little tweaks and additional logic. So I was going to instantiate StardewModdingAPI.Toolkit.Serialization.JsonHelper but it says it cant find that namespace idk why

[lucid iron]

I really don't think u have to do all that when these helpers exist

To answer your original question though, you can literally just have user enter a string path to folder in config, and then you deal with that by using Newtonsoft.Json directly

But I don't think you should

[proud idol]

Yeah but then I'd want to replicate all the extra stuff SMAPI does when loading json files to ensure it does it exactly the same way, https://github.com/Pathoschild/SMAPI/blob/develop/src/SMAPI.Toolkit/Serialization/JsonHelper.cs#L12

[lucid iron]

Yes exactly , so if u just use ReadGlobalData WriteGlobalData

You can get jsons to live outside your mod's actual folder

And survive deletions

[proud idol]

I think Ill have to once I figure out what the key parameter is doing for ReadGlobalData. I have absolute file paths that I'm working with

[lucid iron]

(unless the user goes and delete the actual .smapi folder in the save folder tho)

[calm nebula]

JsonHelper seems public

[proud idol]

I tried using it in my code but it says it couldn't be found. I have no clue why

Even typing 'StardewModdingAPI.Toolkit' namespace isn't showing up

[uncut viper]

it's public, but in a different dll

you'd need to reference it

[proud idol]

Oh I only have a reference to SMAPI.Toolkit.CoreInterfaces, not to SMAPI.Toolkit

[proud idol]

If I add this reference to my mod, will it still work for users who have the game installed in a different folder?

<Reference Include="SMAPI.Toolkit">
<HintPath>..............\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Stardew Valley\smapi-internal\SMAPI.Toolkit.dll</HintPath>
</Reference>

<HintPath>..............\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Stardew Valley\smapi-internal\SMAPI.Toolkit.dll</HintPath>

oops its removing the slashes in discord

<HintPath>..\..\..\..\..\..\..\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Stardew Valley\smapi-internal\SMAPI.Toolkit.dll</HintPath>

[calm nebula]

It'll work for players but you don't need to do that

One second

[sour sleet]

How do I make a spouse use their sleep animation at the end of the day? 2200 bed anya_sleep doesn't seem to be working

[calm nebula]

<Reference Include="Newtonsoft.Json" HintPath="$(GamePath)\smapi-internal\Newtonsoft.Json.dll" private="false" />

[proud idol]

Thanks, $(GamePath) is working

[tiny zealot]

1. you don't need to specify the animation if you are using bed (i'm not sure spouse schedules even care, truthfully)
2. you have to use your NPC's internal name (lowercased) in the animation key, not just "anya"

[sour sleet]

Ok, so if the internal name is AnyaLilybrook, it needs to be anyalilybrook?

[tiny zealot]

yes, anyalilybrook_sleep

[faint ingot]

can someone tell me, if using switchEvent does "same location" mean the location the first event started in, or the one it's currently in if I used changeLocation earlier? Sorry if I'm not making sense.

[grim star]

Would anyone be interested in helping me make the sprites for my custom NPC? I have tried to do this myself but I have a really good idea for a custom NPC just am not good with the art side of things and was wondering if anyone would be willing to want to help out? Let me know!

[hollow fox]

Hello! I was wondering how modders here found their teams/community. I have an interest in learning how to mod Stardew, but I do best working on a project with other people. I love to write, and I'm interested in learning how to draw in the Stardew Valley art style. I'm no good at programming, though.

Just curious as to how people meet other people interested in starting a group project!

[drowsy pewter]

it applies to both of you, but typically people demonstrate that they have some skill or dedication to something that they bring to the table, and you'll naturally find people who are interested in your skill

[tiny zealot]

switchEvent uses the current location, so the new key should be in the location you have already changed to

[drowsy pewter]

for example... kafkaesque, do you have any desire as someone interested in spritework to work with kkthnx from right before you? and if not, why?

likewise kkthnx do you have any desire to work with kafkaesque

bluntly everyone already comes to modding with their own ideas lol so we're usually not short on those

sometimes it can just be as simple as going to #making-mods-art and being like "I tried drawing my own version of the carrot sprite, what do people think of this image? Oh and if anyone wants spritework for their mods feel free to ask me! I want more experience"

[hollow fox]

That's very fair! I'd be totally interested in working with anyone, I just struggle with showing off my skills. I'd need to build a little bit of a portfolio to get to a point where I even have anything to show, lol. I'm mostly just curious as to how people even start.

[hollow fox]

That's great advice. I'll consider doing that!

[drowsy pewter]

Honestly you dont need much to show off. Just even one thing to show that you know how to make pixel art that isnt blurry lol! (and even if it is blurry there's always someone that wants it anyways.)

I think my first sprite was just a drawing of garfield

[hollow fox]

Lolol, that's great. I really appreciate your time and advice :,D thank you

[drowsy pewter]

it's more about having some demonstrable attempt at something rather than a fleeting interest that'll be gone next week

Sure thing! Just chat in here/in the other channels once in a while and people will start to recognize you

[hollow fox]

See, that's something I need to prove to myself that I can do too. I'll do my best to keep myself accountable here!

[lucid iron]

Just make theoretically useful things and then try to peddle it to people

[drowsy pewter]

It helps get over that initial mental block by just making a single simplest mod in the world

like changing the sprite of one thing

Once you start you wont stop

[visual dirge]

oh my god that reminds me

[lucid iron]

Most of this channel is just people coming in and asking "why me mod no work" so it's not like anyone looks at your profolio

[visual dirge]

ages and ages ago i had an idea for a mod that i totally wanna make and i just forgot about it

something that collects friendship points over the cap and displays them

[hollow fox]

Lawl, true

[visual dirge]

like a little "+24❤️" thingy on the social page

i need to do this

ugh time to learn how to mess w the ui

[lucid iron]

!harmony

[ocean sail]

Harmony is a framework for patching .NET code, allowing you to take any portion of the game's logic and insert or substitute your own. This gives you more flexibility and control than SMAPI helpers and events, at the cost of being typically more complex and difficult to use safely and correctly, and more likely to break with a future update of the game and/or SMAPI.

If you are trying to do something that isn't possible or practical with SMAPI alone, then Harmony is usually the solution.

For more information, refer to the following:

• Harmony Modder Guide - Intro, Use Cases, Initial Setup
• Tutorial: Harmony Patching - Types of patches and code examples
• Decompiling Stardew Valley - For finding methods to patch

To use this command, type !harmony.

[visual dirge]

no i know that part lol

[lucid iron]

I strongly recommend patching game menu instead of the event based way here

Compat reasons

[visual dirge]

ofc

[lucid iron]

But otoh if u want to add a new page

[visual dirge]

i was probably going to find a draw method somewhere and postfix it

[lucid iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/32032

This makes it easy to add new tab if u want

[visual dirge]

i just wanna add a little bit of text to each entry in the social menu

need to figure out save data too

waow this will be a fun project

[lucid iron]

You can just store it on NPC.modData

It's a dict string string that goes into save and gets multiplayer sync

[visual dirge]

ok good good

[lime seal]

That did the trick, thank you!!!

This is scope creep (), and probably more on Almanac's end rather than JA's, but I noticed there's an error that pops up from Almanac related to JA. Would you have availability and interest to look at it, see if there's something on JA's end that could address it? I'm using the Almanac version available on GitHub here (https://github.com/Vindeflei/KhloeLeclairStardewMods/releases/tag/Almanac_1_18_2) which works in 1.6 besides the error.
Log with the error: https://smapi.io/log/0cfc790fa8ef4504a706ddbd7bdaf66d

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Pro, with 176 C# mods and 449 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[visual dirge]

i assume it's not per-player and ill need to key the data on players' multiplayer ids?

[lucid iron]

Yeah use unique multiplayer id

[visual dirge]

okiii

[lucid iron]

Could also put it on the farmer's mod data

Key by npc id

[visual dirge]

would that be better?

for per-player stuff

[lucid iron]

I dunno it seems about the same to me

You pick cus u be writing this mod after all

[visual dirge]

ok ill just do whichever looks easier w how the patches work out

[tender bloom]

Honestly I don't know why that error happens, since JA API still has that method 🤔

ah I see

[urban patrol]

i have a friend who wants to play my mod but only owns a chromebook. my mod dependencies are SMAPI, CP, spacecore, and BETAS. they’re unable to install the steam version of the game on their chromebook, but they say the google play store has a version they could install. would they be able to play my mod?

[tender bloom]

the updaters to Alamanac haven't updated the JA API

[tender bloom]

probably not, that's the mobile version

[brittle pasture]

that's be the android version

[tender bloom]

Does BETAS work on mobile?

[brittle pasture]

which, well,

[tender bloom]

some of the rest somewhat works

mobile SMAPI is jank last I heard

[urban patrol]

gotcha, that’s what i assumed because i know chromebooks are wack

thanks all

[tender bloom]

if you want the steam version on the chromebook you have to wade through the linux that chromebooks secretly are

I've seen a couple people get through that but it's not super easy for people who haven't poked around linux before, from what I can tell

[uncut viper]

ive had someone ask me if BETAS works on Android bc they tried and got a bunch of errors, but there was no log so I don't know if it was actually due to BETAS or not. I've not looked into it as I don't have Android Stardew

someone else then asked afterwards if there would ever be a version that was compatible with Android, but similarly i dont know if that means they actually tried it or not or if theyre just going off what the first person in the comment chain said regarding the errors that may or may not be BETAS related

[lucid iron]

A few BETAS features explode on phone

[uncut viper]

if it was easy to fix them id probably try, though i dont feel like purchasing mobile stardew just for mod development, so itd be up to someone to PR it i suppose if they cared that much

[lucid iron]

Well i was gonna follow up with, but button caught them separately so if your mod didn't use em it's probably no issue

[uncut viper]

no ones ever actually told me that BETAS explodes on phone in any way

so i have no idea what explodes

[blissful panther]

I remember when I was told that MEEP's closeup interactions don't work correctly on mobile, so I asked for a screen recording of what happens so I can see if it would be a five second fix (which is possible).

They didn't give me one, so I guess it works just fine after all!

[urban patrol]

they decided to go ahead and buy android versions anyway since they do enjoy the game vanilla anyway. there’s a specific version of spacecore i should direct them to try, right?

[lucid iron]

Yea

!androidsmapi

[ocean sail]

Android SMAPI

There is an unofficial port of SMAPI for Stardew 1.6 to Android. Please see the wiki instructions for more information.

IMPORTANT: This is a highly experimental build and may be prone to glitches, bugs, or incompatibilities. We are not able to provide support if you run into trouble or compatibility issues; please use the discord linked on the Android SMAPI github.

Do not harass mod authors to make Android specific compatibility patches.

To use this command, type !androidsmapi.

[lucid iron]

Just note that if mod explodes there's not much help

Besides figure it out yourself somehow

[urban patrol]

yeah i already told them like, you can try but it’s out of my hands lol

[urban patrol]

hey is the android discord supposed to link to sdv thailand?

[brittle pasture]

Yes, that's where the main dev frequents (and link to as well)

[tender bloom]

yes lol

[drowsy shadow]

Does anyone know if there is a when condition that checks to see who your dance partner is at the dance? Between googling it and checking the discord search, I can't seem to find anything legit for it.

[urban patrol]

okay just checking haha

[tender bloom]

Unlikely to be a condition easily findable in CP unless a mod exposes it, is my guess

In C# is probably easy?

[drowsy shadow]

Thanks! I'll give it a shot.

[tender bloom]

My guess is that it has to know something about who to place there in the event

it might be hardcoded in Event.cs

[visual dirge]

@brittle pasture thoughts on my pr? 🥺 https://github.com/zombifier/My_Stardew_Mods/pull/13

[brittle pasture]

I've seen it, have been waiting for it to be finished (which it is now)

[visual dirge]

okiiii

lmk what u think abt the feature itself

i definitely wish additional fuels worked that way

[brittle pasture]

I admit the original behavior is about 75% intended
I'll think about whether it makes sense to merge, but leaning towards yes
(and thanks! )

[visual dirge]

oki ty 😁

[lucid iron]

Hm does the current implementation follow the first output thing

[uncut viper]

(getting the dance partner in C# is easy yeah, but not exposed in a CP accessible way)

[lucid iron]

This is sorta first output on a machine level

[visual dirge]

current implementation is just "first rule that matches the vanilla input item", my pr would make it "first rule that matches the vanilla input item and has all necessary fuels available"

[brittle pasture]

the other thing I'm worried is breakages, because even without EMC it is possible to make output entries where none of the output item matches a condition

[visual dirge]

wdym?

[brittle pasture]

you can modify the hops -> pale ale output item to only make pale ale if you have a mail flag, and if you don't you just fail instead of making hops juice

[visual dirge]

hmm yea fair

imo the most similar vanilla analogue to additional fuels is recipes that take multiple of an item

but thats also a good comparison so idk lol

[visual dirge]

e.g. w vanilla behavior, if an earlier rule takes 3 apples and a later rule takes 1 apple, you can trigger the later rule by only having 1 or 2 apples in your inventory

[visual dirge]

but yeah this pr is unfortunately (kinda?) a breaking change cause it makes recipes possible that might not have been intended

not sure how acceptable that is

[charred stirrup]

I'm really sorry to ask this, I feel like I can't get a clear answer on this anywhere...is it possible to add new items soley using c# and smapi ?

[visual dirge]

this behavior could also be controlled by a customfields config on the machine (or on the individual rule) but i thought that would be excessive levels of configuration and possibly confusing to players

[tender bloom]

You definitely can but there isn't going to be a guide because it's much more common to use Content Patcher

You'd be using the same content pipeline that CP does

[lucid iron]

You basically just do all the content edits on your own

[tender bloom]

(About adding new items via C# and SMAPI)

[lucid iron]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Content

[charred stirrup]

Ah right okay that's kinda what I gathered, I guess i'll sink some time into learing how to use content patcher so

[lucid iron]

I wouldn't do this beyond just 1 or 2 items

Or if you are trying to do a mass edit like make everything 2x as expensive

[charred stirrup]

Overall idea was to add a couple net new items, and eventually a net new npc and quest line involving said items

I'll add items first and then go figure out how to do the rest xd

[tender bloom]

Most people find content patcher easier if they don't know how to program beforehand

!npc

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Aviroen has put together a template that will allow you to easily create a romanceable NPC.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

• Fireredlily has a WIP NPC Builder Please do report any errors you get with it into the NPC thread!

To use this command, type !npc.

[charred stirrup]

Yeah I think im kinda in the opposite boat lol, I was very ready to do this all in c# but the documentation is a bit limited

[lucid iron]

It's not really about easier or harder imo

Just very tedious

Content patcher also have various fun features beyond just editing content, tokens and conditions mainly

You can still add a C# component for whatever non standard feature you need

But other people made mods specifically to provide non standard features via content (aka framework mods)

[rigid oriole]

Anyone know if I can get away with the cleaner wikitable syntax in a collapse block (first image about mail) or if I have to use the html tags (second image from events page)?

[raw helm]

Not sure if i'm asking in the right place but could someone tell me where i can learn some first steps for modding? Like creating a mod for a dialog expansion or the likes.

[brittle pasture]

!startmodding what you want to make are Content Patcher mods

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[harsh crystal]

howdy ! hopefully it's chill to ask about fashion sense here, as i couldn't find a FS server 🫡
i'm having trouble scaling down a bodymodel using the scale property - the body doesn't change size regardless of what value it is
otherwise everything else with it works fine, i'm just using a higher res image so not downscaling it makes it giant : P

[raw helm]

Thanks a lot!

[harsh crystal]

this is what the top of the body json looks like, for ref. its more or less the same as the example for all the bodies

[zealous rivet]

Hi guys, does anyone know how to make gift tastes change with different heart levels? I'm still very new to modding

[rigid musk]

You would do a patch for each heart level with a when condition

[golden delta]

hi. first time attempting to create a mod. I'm running into a bit of an issue and I think it may have to do with the project structure.

the documentation shows how to create a Library project with Visual Studio, however I'm using VSCode. My directory looks like this:

Build failed with 1 error(s) and 1 warning(s) in 4.4s
PS E:\DrewMods\MyHoverMod\MyHoverMod> cd ..
PS E:\DrewMods\MyHoverMod> tree
Folder PATH listing for volume NVME
Volume serial number is 4C2A-966D
E:.
├───MyHoverMod
│   ├───bin
│   │   ├───Debug
│   │   │   ├───net6.0
│   │   │   └───net9.0
│   │   ├───Release
│   │   │   └───net6.0
│   │   └───{Release
│   │       └───net6.0}
│   └───obj
│       └───Release
│           └───net6.0
├───obj
│   └───Debug
│       ├───net6.0
│       │   ├───ref
│       │   └───refint
│       └───net9.0
│           ├───ref
│           └───refint
└───Properties

It's a MyHoverMod folder with a nested MyHoverMod in it (which has all the project files). This seems to be what's listed in the documentation. When I try to build the mod

PS E:\DrewMods\MyHoverMod> dotnet build -c Release
MSBUILD : error MSB1003: Specify a project or solution file. The current working directory does not contain a project or solution file.

it seems to want me to be in the nested MyHoverMod dir. Is this correct?

also I'm seeing an issue when build with a json library:

There was a conflict between "Newtonsoft.Json, Version=12.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=30ad4fe6b2a6aeed" and "Newtonsoft.Json, Version=13.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=30ad4fe6b2a6aeed".

is this because i have .net 9.0 installed? I thought they were supposed to be backwards compatable

C:\Program Files\dotnet\sdk\9.0.300\Microsoft.Common.CurrentVersion.targets(2434,5): warning MSB3277:

[lucid iron]

Where's your csproj?

And it's fine to have net 9 while building against net 6

However it looks like you referenced a newtonsoft.json different than smapi's packaged newtonsoft.json

[golden delta]

yeah im not sure how. I dont have anything custom in there about a json lib

[proud wyvern]

how does your csproj look like?

[golden delta]

it's really just those two files:

<Project Sdk="Microsoft.NET.Sdk">

  <PropertyGroup>
    <OutputType>Library</OutputType>
    <TargetFramework>net6.0</TargetFramework>
  </PropertyGroup>

  <ItemGroup>
    <PackageReference Include="Pathoschild.Stardew.ModBuildConfig" Version="4.2.1" />
  </ItemGroup>

</Project>

using StardewModdingAPI;
using StardewModdingAPI.Events;
using StardewValley;

namespace MyHoverMod
{
    public class ModEntry : Mod
    {
        public override void Entry(IModHelper helper)
        {
            helper.Events.Display.RenderedHud += OnRenderedHud;
        }

        private void OnRenderedHud(object sender, RenderedHudEventArgs e)
        {
            if (!Context.IsWorldReady)
                return;

            string hoverText = Game1.hoverText;
            if (!string.IsNullOrWhiteSpace(hoverText))
            {
                Monitor.Log($"Hovering over: {hoverText}", LogLevel.Info);
            }
        }
    }
}

i'm aware hoverText is invalid, but that's another issue

i'm not referencing json at all

[lucid iron]

Output type

I don't think u need it though idk if it would break things

[proud wyvern]

OutputType defaults to Library, according to MS

[lucid iron]

Do u have a sln

[golden delta]

yeah there is an sln, but im not sure what those are

they were generated

[lucid iron]

Yeah that's fine im just trying to figure out why dotnet build didn't work

[golden delta]

Microsoft Visual Studio Solution File, Format Version 12.00
# Visual Studio Version 17
VisualStudioVersion = 17.5.2.0
MinimumVisualStudioVersion = 10.0.40219.1
Project("{FAE04EC0-301F-11D3-BF4B-00C04F79EFBC}") = "MyHoverMod", "MyHoverMod.csproj", "{F531F5E6-68EA-ABFD-6EF8-1C282A95E799}"
EndProject
Global
    GlobalSection(SolutionConfigurationPlatforms) = preSolution
        Debug|Any CPU = Debug|Any CPU
        Release|Any CPU = Release|Any CPU
    EndGlobalSection
    GlobalSection(ProjectConfigurationPlatforms) = postSolution
        {F531F5E6-68EA-ABFD-6EF8-1C282A95E799}.Debug|Any CPU.ActiveCfg = Debug|Any CPU
        {F531F5E6-68EA-ABFD-6EF8-1C282A95E799}.Debug|Any CPU.Build.0 = Debug|Any CPU
        {F531F5E6-68EA-ABFD-6EF8-1C282A95E799}.Release|Any CPU.ActiveCfg = Release|Any CPU
        {F531F5E6-68EA-ABFD-6EF8-1C282A95E799}.Release|Any CPU.Build.0 = Release|Any CPU
    EndGlobalSection
    GlobalSection(SolutionProperties) = preSolution
        HideSolutionNode = FALSE
    EndGlobalSection
    GlobalSection(ExtensibilityGlobals) = postSolution
        SolutionGuid = {9956211B-8BEB-4546-A462-56A62C92657A}
    EndGlobalSection
EndGlobal

[calm nebula]

I thought sln was a VS thing

[lucid iron]

If u don't have it in vscode it doesn't give u intellisense

[golden delta]

i didn't write that. it was generated in some dotnet step i guess

so i just need to delete the OutputType entry?

[lucid iron]

Does dotnet build MyHoverMod work

[golden delta]

i only found 1 reference to this xml file in the documentation:

<Project Sdk="Microsoft.NET.Sdk">
  <PropertyGroup>
    <AssemblyName>EXAMPLE_MOD_NAME</AssemblyName>
    <RootNamespace>EXAMPLE_MOD_NAME</RootNamespace>
    <Version>1.0.0</Version>
    <TargetFramework>net6.0</TargetFramework>
  </PropertyGroup>

  <ItemGroup>
    <PackageReference Include="Pathoschild.Stardew.ModBuildConfig" Version="4.0.0" />
  </ItemGroup>
</Project>

[lucid iron]

I don't think that matters

[uncut viper]

(fwiw Rider will also generate one too)

[golden delta]

PS E:\DrewMods\MyHoverMod> dotnet build MyHoverMod
    E:\DrewMods\MyHoverMod\MyHoverMod\MyHoverMod.csproj : error NU1301:
      Failed to retrieve information about 'Newtonsoft.Json' from remote source 'https://nuget.smapi.io/FindPackagesById()?id='Newtonsoft.Json'&semVerLevel=2.0.0'.
        The SSL connection could not be established, see inner exception.
        The remote certificate is invalid according to the validation procedure: RemoteCertificateNameMismatch
    E:\DrewMods\MyHoverMod\MyHoverMod\MyHoverMod.csproj : error NU1301:
      Failed to retrieve information about 'Pathoschild.Stardew.ModBuildConfig' from remote source 'https://nuget.smapi.io/FindPackagesById()?id='Pathoschild.Stardew.ModBuildConfig'&semVerLevel=2.0.0'.
        The SSL connection could not be established, see inner exception.
        The remote certificate is invalid according to the validation procedure: RemoteCertificateNameMismatch

idk what is referencing this json lib. I have nothing in there other than those 2 files I wrote

[lucid iron]

Is ur nuget not setup correct

[golden delta]

i dont believe it is set up correctly. I'm using an extension

i dont really understand why the documentation calls for this nested structure

[calm nebula]

What is nuget.smapi.io

Other than nonexistent

[proud wyvern]

this... actually looks like a Pathos problem

it seems existent

[lucid iron]

Mysterious

[calm nebula]

No you should be nuget the usual nuget source

[lucid iron]

Can u clone this repo real quick and try to build

https://github.com/Mushymato/FishPondering/blob/main/FishPondering/FishPondering.csproj

[calm nebula]

Huh really

[calm nebula]

When did it expire

[golden delta]

it's being generated somewhere

[proud wyvern]

huh

[lucid iron]

just dotnet build from the base folder is fine

If this is not working then yeah smapi nuget server shenanigans

[proud wyvern]

idk what's up with that

[golden delta]

im not really familiar with windows development, trying to fix my git stuff

i cant clone immediately

[proud wyvern]

and why there even is a separate nuget server

[sour sleet]

Is it normal to get yellow smapi text saying the following when it turns Summer 1? I'm applying a seasonal recolour to my custom world map: [SMAPI] Skipped reload for 'Mods/8BitAlien.Lilybrook/LilybrookMap/spring_LilybrookMap' because the underlying asset no longer exists.

[golden delta]

why is it even looking for this json lib?

[proud wyvern]

https://nuget.smapi.io/

Unable to communicate securely with peer: requested domain name does not match the server’s certificate.

[golden delta]

i'm not declaring it or using it in any files

[proud wyvern]

@ivory plume what's going on

[lucid iron]

This json lib is used widely in smapi itself

To well, load and write json

[golden delta]

right, but it's saying there is a version conflict with a different version of the library that I seem to be relying on

i only have 1 dependency in my xml

[lucid iron]

You have some shenanigans going on with the nuget server being smapi's (?)

[ivory plume]

What is nuget.smapi.io?

[proud wyvern]

yeah, what is it

[golden delta]

idk. im have 5 minutes of experience

i have 2 files I wrote, and some generated somehow

none of them declare this uri

[proud wyvern]

that SSL error seems to be a thing for any non-existent subdomain at smapi.io

where did that URI come from though...

[golden delta]

it seems to assume this is the mirror for a library repo

like an artifactory

[lucid iron]

There is something to do to change the nuget provider back to official but i am struggling to find the right docs for that

[ivory plume]

Can you post a zip of your solution folder?

[golden delta]

sure, is that allowed here on discord?

[ivory plume]

Yep, assuming it doesn't break the other server rules (e.g. NSFW or AI content).

[golden delta]

i'm trying to make a mod that can take the mouse-hover chinese character and display a modal with its translation and pinyin somewhere on the screen

i don't know if the API supports this

i tried to make a unity mod for another game but ran into IL2CPP issues

[ivory plume]

In Visual Studio, can you post a screenshot of Tools > NuGet Package Manager > Package Manager Settings > Package Sources?

[golden delta]

ok, i'm using VSCode and a nuget extension

maybe i should just switch

i just picked it bc that's what i work in on my mac

[tender bloom]

I use Rider on a Mac

[golden delta]

it had 1.4M downloads so i figured it was fine

[ivory plume]

A screenshot of the equivalent in VS Code is fine too, though Visual Studio would definitely be easier since it's a full IDE rather than a text editor with plugins.

[tender bloom]

VSCode is fine, but it’s not as nice an IDE, mostly because it’s a glorified text editor.

Pathos is kinder about it than I am

[calm nebula]

I was about to ask about the contents of these two files

%AppData%\NuGet\NuGet.config
%ProgramData%\NuGet\NuGetDefaults.config

Here's the thing

The correct location nugets are from, other than school cafeteria, is probably nuget.org

[old edge]

I'm making a mossy dungeon!

[golden delta]

still looking