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latent mauve
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I've been going back and forth on tasks so I may have missed it

ornate locust
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hang on, I have it without the pass-through thing

latent mauve
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!json

ocean sailBOT
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JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.
latent mauve
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use the parser instead please!

ornate locust
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aha hang on then

grim urchin
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Question for the mod peoples who've made NPCs, is there an official list of needed dialogue amounts for marriagable NPCs? like a template to follow?

ornate locust
golden spire
fierce vault
grim urchin
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Thank you!

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to both of you ^-^

latent mauve
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!npc to save some time

ocean sailBOT
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Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

To use this command, type !npc.
fierce vault
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https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Npc_template Now, do note that you should read through different sections of the official stardew valley wiki for the basic foundation to understand some of the things on this template. Content patcher also has documentation you can read through as well, on github. I’ll try to find a link to it if you don’t already have it.

Stardew Modding Wiki
Npc template

Hello! Aviroen here.
Below I have constructed a ROMANCEABLE NPC template which are all standalone.json(s)
This is assumed that you understand Content Patcher to some degree.
"What does standalone mean?"
It means it can be it's own separate json like "NPCNAME.json" or "Dialogue.json" or "MarriageDialogue...

grim urchin
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Lmao thank you both

fierce vault
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Actually, i think the Content patcher docs are linked on its nexus page, so you can find it there.

grim urchin
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I'm still trying to understand CP lmao, i'm VERY new to it

fierce vault
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With time and actual practice, you’ll get better at it.

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Along with reading of course.

grim urchin
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Yeee, thank you for the help~

latent mauve
ornate locust
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Still broken

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I'm giving up, doing it another way. You know what DOES work? Putting different i18n for male and female wizard and doing a {{i18n:MV.Municipal.GuildIntro.08.{{HasMod |contains=Nom0ri.RomRas}}}}

latent mauve
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Yeah, I was gonna suggest doing that instead

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Or at least structuring it the same way as that one with multiple i18n entries and just changing which one gets pulled rather than trying to dynamically change the i18n text.

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@ivory plume Sorry to bother you, but this has me a bit confused: Does CP do something weird with handling i18n and tokens in Events, or is there something we've missed with a coding error?

uncut viper
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has midnight posted their i18n file or a log

latent mauve
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There was a log posted earlier I think? Only thing I don't recall seeing is the base i18n

uncut viper
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i am unable to find a log

ornate locust
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The log was dead-ass empty

uncut viper
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i would still like to see the log

latent mauve
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ah, then maybe I got confused on what was posted, can you grab a log real quick Midnight Voyager, just to be thorough?

lucid iron
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What does patch export of the event ahow

ornate locust
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Nothing

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it's not there

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let me change the file back and go for a log I guess

lucid iron
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That sounds like issue with data edit yggy

ornate locust
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But it doesn't put the event there AT ALL with the token passthrough thing

latent mauve
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That's why I was wondering if there was something in the code that was not escaped or otherwise malforming the event but I don't have enough knowledge to be sure.

uncut viper
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have you posted the code that defines your dynamic tokens

latent mauve
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And if the exact same line works in dialogue outside of the event, something's weird

uncut viper
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(i only justy got here like 5min ago so ive not seen all the links)

ornate locust
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The tokens all work, they work in dialog, they parse when I ask SMAPI if they parse

latent mauve
ornate locust
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Yes, that one's broken

uncut viper
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i was not asking if the tokens worked i was asking if you'd posted them somewhere, because otherwise i cannot see if theres anything in their values that might be affecting anything

ornate locust
ocean sailBOT
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Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 17 C# mods and 7 content packs.

uncut viper
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is this log after you tried to load the event

ornate locust
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Yes

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I changed it all back, went to where the event should be, nothing

ivory plume
latent mauve
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Midnight Voyager is the one with the issue

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But yeah, if you can do that, Midnight Voyager, that'll help a ton.

ornate locust
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I cannot start the event ingame, that's the problem, it won't patch at all. It says it's not there

ivory plume
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(Yep, I was replying to chat in general following your ping.)

latent mauve
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(I figured but wanted to clarify to Midnight Voyager so they could compile the things)

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Can you try debug ebi and the event ID to force it to run?

ornate locust
latent mauve
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In case there's something else hinky with preconditions

uncut viper
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the value of RasJob has a | in it

ornate locust
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but it's not there to try to- hold on, lemt me find the file

uncut viper
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i imagine that fucks with the | parsing when passing in a token

latent mauve
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(yeah, I know you said it's not in the patch export, so I expect it to fail)

whole raptor
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You could try making a "list" of related tokens, for example:

            "Name": "expressionList",
            "Value": "|e0={{e0}} |e1={{e1}} |e2={{e2}} |e3={{e3}} |e4={{e4}}",
    "When": {
      "HasMod": "Parrot.RomRas"
    }
},```

And that just pass it through i18n everywhere you need: `{{i18n:12HeartEvent.PartTwo.SVE.0 {{expressionList}} }}`

Never failed me ![SDVpufferthink](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/280082838773301258.webp?size=128 "SDVpufferthink") Unless I'm misunderstanding the issue
ornate locust
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It's AGGRESSIVELY failing me

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And if that | is a problem, why did it work with it when it was dialog and mail and everything else?

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I don't remember why I have it there, I was following a specific example, I can remove it

uncut viper
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{{i18n:MV.Municipal.GuildIntro.04 |RasJob={{Lowercase:{{|MV.Municipal.Ras.Job={{i18n:MV.Municipal.Ras.Job.{{HasMod |contains=Nom0ri.RomRas}}}}}}}}}}

this is what your token will become, which seems not ideal

ivory plume
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I wouldn't recommend using special Content Patcher syntax as literal text in token values, unless you're actually trying to dynamically build a parseable syntax string (which I also wouldn't recommend).

uncut viper
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if we assume romras is installed then i believe this is eventually whats being placed in your event script:
{{i18n:MV.Municipal.GuildIntro.04 |RasJob=|mv.municipal.ras.job=witch}}

ornate locust
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If it's that |, it's great to know, I just want to throw it off a cliff for somehow functioning until this event thing SDVpufferchickcry

uncut viper
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(im like only 80% sure i parsed that out correctly though)

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scratch that i had excess brackets, im now up to 85% sure with this:
{{i18n:MV.Municipal.GuildIntro.04 |RasJob={{Lowercase:|MV.Municipal.Ras.Job=Witch}}}}

calm nebula
whole raptor
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If all else fails, a simple solution is to just have 2 versions of the event with hasMod and differences with i18n tokens, less nice, but still

uncut viper
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so im not 100% convinced its actually the |, though as Pathos says id not recommend it either, but i think its still fucking up bc of this weird dynamic syntax mess coming out wrong in the end result

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lowercasing nothing and then assigning it to rasjob seems not intended

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i wouldve expected Content Patcher to throw a fuss but even if it doesnt it seems broken still

ornate locust
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it doesn't give me any fuss or feedback on what's broken, no. I'm throwing this whole thing into the fire and just going to resign myself to having to do a ton of hasmods

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Removing the | and trying it also breaks

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the event shows up, the token just doesn't work

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so I am done with even trying that

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now I'm worried about all the spots where it worked just fine

uncut viper
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i would say that is a reasonable worry

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i feel like this is likely not going to be the last time that the | dynamic syntax stuff in your dynamic token values will come back to bite

ornate locust
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so fun fact: If I remove the |, the mail breaks. With it, it appropriately replaces the right bit.

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I put that there because I was following an example which I would now love to remember what it was, because... it works everywhere but events, seems like

uncut viper
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thats what id expect yeah

calm nebula
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Have we seen a patch summary yet

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(Apologies if we have)

uncut viper
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no but i assumed midnight's decision to not care for this method in the first place anymore superceded the need for it

calm nebula
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Damn, we are out of almonds at work

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Fair!

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(I don't backread in main so it is very likely I miss things)

uncut viper
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which frankly i also think is the right decision, second only to the decision of redoing all of the dynamic tokens, which is also a lot of work

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its nothing to do with events in actuality its just the manner in which they are being used was only a problem when you tried to use it the same way with an event. but it being an event is coincidental

ornate locust
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no really it's great that it's worked for months but only now did I find where it causes a problem, wonderful

calm nebula
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(I have decided I have no idea of what happened in this conversation)

uncut viper
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the problem basically entirely stems from the fact that whatever example you were following was trying to dynamically build up parseable syntax

lucid iron
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Dynamic tokens r confusing as always DokkanStare

calm nebula
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(In unrelated, I'm also sad at the work snack situation)

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(The second thing is more important to me)

uncut viper
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like i wouldnt recommend actually doing this bc my top recommendation still is "dont follow that example"
but i suspect if you just changed the name of your token inside the i18n string to match what the dynamic token is assigning, and then just used the dynamic token, itd work

calm nebula
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But also in events you can use tokenizable text

uncut viper
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{{i18n:MV.Municipal.GuildIntro.04 {{RasJob}}}}

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this is how this weird dynamic syntax stuff is supposed to be used

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because the RasJob token includes the passthrough stuff. |whatever=something is inside the value itself

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except in this case, the passthrough that is included is assigning MV.Municipal.Ras.Job to the value of Witch (when RomRas is installed, Wizard otherwise)

ornate locust
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I think I see what you mean

uncut viper
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so what you'd need is for your i18n to not have a {{RasJob}} token inside it, but rather {{MV.Municipal.Ras.Job}}

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that way, it eventually becomes {{i18n:MV.Municipal.GuildIntro.04 |MV.Municipal.Ras.Job=Witch}}

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naturally you cannot lowercase this with the lowercase token

sour sleet
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Is NPCDispositions still ok to use or is it outdated in 1.6?

uncut viper
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outdated

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wont work if you use modern CP formats

sour sleet
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Ok thanks!

uncut viper
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if you use pre-1.6 formats CP will auto migrate it

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formats as in the "Format": 2.5.0 line stuff

sour sleet
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I will use the updated Data/Characters instead then

tawny ore
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(you shouldn't ever intentionally depend on CP migrations)

uncut viper
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also correct

tawny ore
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That's a fallback for people who are no longer updating their mods

whole raptor
# ornate locust I think I see what you mean

Tbh, if there's a way to avoid using dynamic tokens inside of i18n without 10 times the work, I'd definitely recommend that approach... it can be a major pain and sometimes lead to weird results. I still remember trying to figure out why 1 festival dialogue just showed up as "..." for hours

uncut viper
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that way is "dont build up parseable syntax"

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(tbh if you ever do actually remember what example you were following, id be curious to see how/why they ended up using it)

brave fable
ornate locust
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okay thanks everyone for helping with my slow descent into insanity

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Because hell I'd never have figured that out

latent mauve
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(several folks in here have a side-mission of finding all the old references to NPC Dispositions in tutorials so that the references to dispositions can be updated to Data/Characters)

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(if you find one, say where!)

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particularly tutorials found on the wiki or modding-wiki, in case one got missed

uncut viper
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do wiki pages that still only have 1.5 information count

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its not a tutorial but info about a data asset

latent mauve
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I mean, there should probably be a note at the top that it's outdated content/not intended for 1.6?

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At the very least.

uncut viper
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i dont think any of the "Modding:Whatever" pages say when theyre outdated? or if they do, the 2 im thinking of dont/didnt

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i think they just kinda rely on people saying theyre outdated in here

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

latent mauve
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the normal wiki (even the modding namespace) is finicky about superfluous edits, so it's possible a note of that kind would just be reverted unless the updated info was also provided in the edit.

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editing the wiki is scary.

lucid iron
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The main wiki's main work item now is merging various info only on migration pages to where they should go

uncut viper
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(tbh thats why i also consider it kind of """fine""" (very loose use of the word) because i do think if you're gonna make a note that its outdated its probably expected that if you're doing that to a wiki, you should, yknow, un-outdate it)

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(not that i expect that necessarily, but from an average persons point of view of how a wiki works)

latent mauve
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I do think there's a place for outdated content-- I regularly lament that I have trouble finding anything about Custom Locations when people come in with code using that system and need to update it.

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Because I don't know how their Custom Locations code WORKS because it was before my start in modding. LOL

uncut viper
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CP has never removed its customlocations documentation though

latent mauve
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I just can never find it.

uncut viper
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i unfortunately find it all too often bc firefox thinks its still what i want to auto-complete to in the address bar instead of the modding page for Location data

latent mauve
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I can't even find it on a wiki search of the modding namespace, that's how buried it is

uncut viper
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well, its a Content Patcher thing, its not on the wiki

latent mauve
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ah-ha, that might explain it.

uncut viper
lucid iron
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It's the author doc that im putting off translating rn 3sSmolMiku

latent mauve
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Excellent, I can now write up a conversion for Custom Locations to Data/Locations assets. xD

ivory plume
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(CustomLocations still works, it's just no longer recommended since it's built-in to the game content now.)

latent mauve
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(yeah, but Data/Locations has all the fancy bits)

uncut viper
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i still think imo the deprecation warning should be bigger/more noticeable

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it also doesnt support tokens at all which still trips people up sometimes, another good reason to swap

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(probably bc the example i just noticed uses a token in it...)

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(tangentially related but i see in Pathos's commits that Vector2 string conversions in CP are gonna be fixed SDVpuffereyes)

amber wren
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@brittle pasture You explained that using that framework would then allow me to use a simple Content Patcher mod to do what I want.

Json files are much more my speed but my experience with modding them has been limited to an attempt to add Peppermint to the game as a crop with recipes, likes/dislikes, etc.

The wiki had instructions for how to do all that so it's much more transparent. Looking at my old mod, would this be something like...

Action:EditData
Target:"Wherever this framework mod thing is?"
Entries:
This EditGrassStuff
Drop Chance: Whatever decimal value I think fits
AddToInventory: True

lucid iron
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Oh is that for "2,5"

uncut viper
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2,5 already works

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the problem was that {X: 2, Y: 5} didnt

lucid iron
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Oh the other way around right

brittle pasture
uncut viper
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it works both ways for SMAPI, but CP didnt use SMAPI's jsonconverters

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(until now)

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(or well. until upcomingly)

brittle pasture
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you're basically editing a custom asset exposed by the mod in the same way the game exposes Data/Crops or etc.

lucid iron
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Soon(tm)

ivory plume
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(The other way around; {X: 2, Y: 5} should always work, but 2,5 only worked on Windows.)

uncut viper
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i have always run into deserialization errors when trying to use the object form

lucid iron
uncut viper
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(the deserialization errors annoyed me so much that i said screw it and used a Rectangle instead for minor scope creep, since that does convert fine for object form)

ivory plume
hot gale
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        {
            // If this isn't a brand new save, we need to clear the terrain features in the Meadery
            // If the player has played for 2 days, we can assume the original meadery location is full of misplaced terrain features
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/TriggerActions",
            "Entries": {
                "{{ModId}}_ClearTerrain": {
                    "Id": "{{ModId}}_ClearTerrain",
                    "Condition": "DAYS_PLAYED 2 2",
                    "Trigger": "DayStarted",
                    "Actions": [
                        "Spiderbuttons.BETAS_ClearTerrainFeatures Meadery All 0 0 116 53"
                    ]
                }
            }
        }

Will this run every time the save is loaded, or just once? If it is every time is there a way to ensure this only happens once?

lucid iron
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I swear i have used "2,5" form before tho...

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On linux

ivory plume
uncut viper
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pathos the legend

brittle pasture
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presumably not what you want

hot gale
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Ah ok I misunderstood the wiki, so 2 to unlimited? would be at leaast 2 days then or would it be random between 2 days and whenever

ivory plume
brittle pasture
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just DAYS_PLAYED 2

amber wren
hot gale
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Ah, gotcha thanks :)

lucid iron
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So what r u attempting to do ukimasu

hot gale
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Resized my map and all my custom NPCs schedules are offset 😭 🤣

uncut viper
# lucid iron I swear i have used "2,5" form before tho...

i think its like a weird triple combo of monogame's vector2 class specifying a type converter to use and newtonsoft reading that and smapi providing its own (that CP did not previously use) and i think monogame doing it differently on linux (or at least, it used to, dont know what version we're using now). i just checked again and yeah the object form does not work on windows thru current version of content patcher, tho ive not tried the object form on linux

lucid iron
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I have some nonsense in my current thing where i wrote rectangles in object form and vector2 in string form

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Mystery

calm nebula
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I don't know about you but I encode my rectangles as 8 bits each in a 32 bit number

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Interleaved

ornate locust
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the event now WORKS FINE except one guy goes the wrong direction for one of his movements, whoops, missed a - there

uncut viper
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i dont think rectangles even have a string form conversion tho i havent checked ig

ornate locust
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And Gil talks correctly

hot gale
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That moment you try to drag the stardew map with your mouse wheel as if its Tiled

ornate locust
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Gil's only contribution to the scene is to say two words and fall back to sleep, but it works!

uncut viper
ornate locust
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If dialog uses a portrait key for a character that doesn't exist, like $h but they only have 1 portrait, will that show a blank or just default to the original?

calm nebula
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Original

lucid iron
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hrm
Technical details: Can't parse Rectangle from invalid value '640,858,1,184' (path: MMAP_MountainView.BackingDay[0].SourceRect).

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this one is via smapi, not cp

ornate locust
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why are there so many mods that add portraits to Marlon and why do so many of them put different expressions in different places SDVpufferchickcry

lucid iron
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everyone loves the old man

uncut viper
lucid iron
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oh what should i be putting

uncut viper
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my little format up there is literally what u gotta write, including the braces and the X, Y, Width, Height text

latent mauve
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There are multiple mods that make Marlon and Gil 'real' NPCs, so likely the portrait mods are meant to be used with one or the other.

ornate locust
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Me too but consistency! shakes fist They all don't even put a smile on the frame you'd get with $h

lucid iron
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huh but "{X:# Y:# Width:# Height:#}" seems worse than just doing the model 3sCatrun

uncut viper
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yeah

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for sue

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sure

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but thats the way monogame chose to serialize it

lucid iron
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maybe ill just turn all my Vector2 into model for consistency then

uncut viper
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well wait for the CP update to come out first SDVpuffersquee

lucid iron
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weh

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i guess ill just die then

calm nebula
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I thought there was a CP update recently

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Don't die, chue!

uncut viper
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admittedly i didnt check if it was already out

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the commit was like 4 days ago

ornate locust
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actually I think SVE is the odd one out, they put a copy of his normal portrait on $h and then a smile on $s which would be really awkward

calm nebula
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Was this after the recent CP update

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Hey, I'm gonna be honest

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CP feels like it updated recently

uncut viper
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i dont usually pay too much attention to minor cp version updatesd

calm nebula
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But also

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Recent in my world could be a literal month ago

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Or two

uncut viper
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it was updated on the 27th

lucid mulch
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I remember reading the patreon post recently

uncut viper
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for a bugfix

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and the 26th for 2.6.0

calm nebula
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And I don't really pay attention anymore to what happens for CP/smapi updates

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But time is a flat circle, I'm always exhausted, etc.

uncut viper
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but yeah the vector2/rectangle/etc fix is slated as "uypcoming" in the release notes so

lucid iron
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uype

calm nebula
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Ah, okay

uncut viper
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is there a problem chu

calm nebula
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Please don't die, chue

ornate locust
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I guess if I use $h then vanilla gets default, SVE gets default but it's the second default so it's fine, and anyone else gets a smile. That works

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well. Second Default but with a bigger eye

lucid iron
ornate locust
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asfad maybe I can do a HasMod for SVE

uncut viper
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oh i know this one! the left guard is the liar

lucid iron
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(i meant to type hype)

uncut viper
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oh i thought you were making fun of my typo that was also uyp

calm nebula
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I took it as a squeaky sound

uncut viper
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"oh, so it was coincidence" button says, as she casually tosses aside a large rock

calm nebula
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Anyways, Midnight seems to be doing actual modding

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I vote they get the floor

ornate locust
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at this point I am Thinking Out Loud anyway, I think I have my portrait woes sorted without erasing Marlon's face on accident

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and Gil has a face... all faces accoutned for

lucid iron
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gil only has 2 expressions right think

ornate locust
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sleep and WAUGH

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the emotion of having a dog clamp down on your soft bits

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gaunt orbit
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finally started working on a test map for my map features thing

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calm nebula
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That looks like the third dimension

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Spooky

golden spire
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zoom out and find out it's a giant spaceship

lucid iron
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collision zoomeyes

ornate locust
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sitting in the middle of a still battlefield I have completed The Events

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and untangled my tokens

amber wren
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@Selph This is what I have. I know it isn't right though but it should be minor fixes.

"Format": "2.1.0",
"Changes": [
// When you cut grass, you get Fiber
{
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "selph.ExtraAnimalConfig/GrassDropExtensionData",
"Entries": {
"(What goes here?)": {
"ItemId": "771",
"BaseChance": 0.5,
"EnterInventoryIfSilosFull": True (What goes around True for this arguement?),
}

brittle pasture
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(What goes here?) should be "(O)771"

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remove the Itemid field

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the asset is set up whereas the key is the item id to drop

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also change True to true

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that should do it I think

latent mauve
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Oh, right, that reminds me. I was wondering how difficult it would be to make it so that weeds have a chance to drop coins when broken.

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(was thinking about a fun little addition like Legend of Zelda's cutting grass for rupees)

brittle pasture
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you can add custom weed nodes with FTM, but no framework to add those to vanilla weeds yet

latent mauve
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Ah, I see

brittle pasture
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probably cuz no demand for "add extra drops to vanilla rocks/twigs/weeds" yet

latent mauve
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So not possible without another framework

brittle pasture
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ppl usually just add their own rocks/twigs/weeds

lucid iron
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selph why not add this in EAC DokkanStare

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how else will i get chimkin feed

calm nebula
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Does that not work with item extensions

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(Serious)

brittle pasture
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you can add custom weedses with IE, but it doesn't support adding drops to vanilla ones AFAIK

calm nebula
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Weedses SDVpufferheart

blazing thicket
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Anyone attempted using GPT in game? I had some code that worked, but only displays updated dialog in the SMAPI window, and can't get it to load new dialog in real time in game. Has anyone had luck with this, or have any resources i could be pointed to for reference?

uncut viper
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no. this server does not support AI generated code or mods and they are not allowed to be posted or shown off in this server

blazing thicket
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I see

uncut viper
normal summit
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Since sending a letter is considered an event by the game code (generally?), do letters count towards the event limiter limit?

lucid iron
#

its not an event?

uncut viper
#

im not sure what you mean by event limiter or letters being events?

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sending a letter is just adding a string to a dictionary

normal summit
#

i was reading the tutorial for sending a letter via content patcher and

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"Sending a letter is considered an event by the game code unless it is sent via certain circumstances like as part of another event or the letter is set to be sent on a specific day."

lucid iron
#

can you link where you read this

normal summit
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https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Sending_a_Letter_(Content_Patcher)

Stardew Modding Wiki
Tutorial: Sending a Letter (Content Patcher)

It's really, really, really easy to send a letter in Stardew Valley thanks to Content Patcher. In fact, it's so easy it's usually just bundled into the information about events, and it's hard to find a mod that just sends mail - usually the letters are part of a mod for more dialog, events, getting recipes, new NPCs, etc. But today, we're going ...

uncut viper
#

that page is 4 years out of date

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and im not sure where they got that from in the first place either

lucid iron
#

ah they literally used a bogus event to send a letter ok

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the 1.6 way is trigger actions AddMail, which you can check Data/TriggerAction for various vanilla examples

normal summit
#

oh okay sorry and thanks! I'll go check it out

lucid iron
#

@brittle ledge how do we mark guides as outdated

blazing thicket
uncut viper
#

which is also not allowed to be posted here or shown off

brittle ledge
brittle ledge
uncut viper
#

i assumed that, but thats still quite a leap to "sending a letter is considered an event in the games code" as a general statement

tender bloom
lucid iron
#

hm obsolete is kinda hidden

calm nebula
#

(We don't really need to engage tbh)

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Anyways

lucid iron
#

i wish it was big ol "DONT USE THIS IN 1.6" banner

calm nebula
#

Sprinklers: in scope for SMD or out of scopr

fathom hound
ocean sailBOT
#

Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Unix 6.5.0.23, with 35 C# mods and 51 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

calm nebula
tender bloom
#

there was a banner used right when 1.6 dropped

uncut viper
tender bloom
#

the one that was like "everuthing might be worng now"

calm nebula
#

Tbh I wonder if keeping around obsolete tutorials is useful at all

amber wren
calm nebula
#

Perhaps at the very least they can be search engine blocked

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Oh well

fathom hound
uncut viper
ornate locust
#

coughs out cheeto dust

fathom hound
uncut viper
#

if i had to guess, you probably shouldnt have just copy pasted the patch from the other mod thats patching over the 4th letter on the right

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on line 1814

fathom hound
#

sorry, where was i supposed to patch it over to??

uncut viper
#

nowhere, because you dont have a 4th letter on the right

fathom hound
#

ohhhh

uncut viper
#

the patch i pointed out is trying to take the 4th letter on the right from your image and paste it on top of the original

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which wont work, because it doesnt exist in your image. thats past the edge of your png

fathom hound
#

so if i take that block out i should be ok?

uncut viper
#

it'll fix that error. i will not guarantee ok-ness in any other regard

fathom hound
#

alrighty thank you! SDVpufferheart

blazing thicket
lucid iron
#

feel free to go look elsewhere for whatever example you want, just not here yggy

uncut viper
#

(which theyve already been told, too)

tender bloom
#

no one here had luck because we don't use it

brittle ledge
#

nearly a thousand mods in the dialogue category and people still want NPCs to sound like a market pitch smh

hard fern
#

SDVpufferflat anyone else just rotate their NPC ideas in their head but fall asleep before actually writing them down

vernal crest
#

Yup. I also watch nature documentaries to fall asleep and go "oh, that should be one of Hiria's facts" but of course I never remember them in the morning.

lucid iron
#

Hiria nature facts...

vernal crest
#

It's what she do

blazing thicket
hot gale
ocean sailBOT
#

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, with 32 C# mods and 31 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

vernal crest
#

It looks to me like it doesn't like your "Amount": null, lines. What happens if you just don't include Amount at all instead of specifying that it's null?

latent mauve
#

If you exclude Amount and have RandomAmount, then it will ignore Amount, which is the intended behavior here if you are just gonna null it anyway.

icy pond
#

Is there a way to find a list of the games unique string IDs for audio? I've been looking for hours and I can't find anything helpful at all.

latent mauve
icy pond
#

Yeah I feel dumb, I found it as soon as I asked. Lol, thank you very much anyway.

hot gale
#

Sorry just saw your guys' responses - will test that!

crude plank
#

@rancid musk I have a feeling the informant shipping decorator has stopped showing since installing BGM but i didn't have a chance to actually test it yet, i want to do it today after work but i'm letting you know now in case i forget about it

vernal crest
hot gale
#

Sorry, I have been all over the place tonight!

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It did not, same error

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I was just about to hit the sack sadly

vernal crest
#

All good! I'll try to have another look. Have a good sleep :)

hot gale
#

Appreciate the help!

karmic gust
craggy cape
#

well todays the day i try out c# code ..

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well, as in, i try to edit out an option within the code that defaults the dressers menu to grid

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꒰ better shop menu and chests anywhere do NOt like eachother when its with dressers ꒱

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or would it be easier to make a compatibility patch rather than editing in a code language im not too familiar with

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either way i had to peak into the dll file somehow

craggy cape
#

okay so id need to make a harmony patch not content pfft

golden spire
#

I did make a little shell script the other day that renames all the wavs extracted by unxwb into their names and creates a few symbolic links for names that point to the same audio. Mostly just a bunch of mv and ln commands

https://pastebin.com/raw/RkhP6XD2

vernal crest
#

Which mod would you be editing, Dottie?

craggy cape
#

it has an issue where the grid is set onto the dresser menu and chests anywheres ui is just behind the grid, making it impossible to access anything else . i wanna turn off the grid feature specifically for the dresser so it acts like the chests, which dont have the grid menu

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ik its easier to just toggle it off but i want the grids to remain for every other shop, just not for dressers xddd

vernal crest
#

Do you know from reading the code on github which bit you'd change?

craggy cape
#

also like, it auto toggles back on when i exit the menu and enter it again

craggy cape
#

theres alot of code after it but i dont know if that code would apply to the dressers until the next comment says smth else

vernal crest
#

I don't see that line anywhere in mod.cs

craggy cape
#

well its just the source code i downloaded since i couldnt get the full dll code, but i'll screenshot

vernal crest
#

Oh, 1.7.1 is later than Casey's

craggy cape
#

oh its line 570 not 590 lmfao

vernal crest
#

I thought you meant an older version of Casey's but you mean something newer that's not hers

craggy cape
#

im assuming its this snippet id need to edit due to the next lines being about portraits..

image.png
#

so basically the

            shop.upArrow.draw(b);
            shop.downArrow.draw(b);
            if (forSale.Count > Mod.UnitsWide * Mod.UnitsHigh)
            {
                IClickableMenu.drawTextureBox(b, Game1.mouseCursors, new Rectangle(403, 383, 6, 6), scrollBarRunner.X, scrollBarRunner.Y, scrollBarRunner.Width, scrollBarRunner.Height, Color.White, 4f);
                scrollBar.draw(b);
            }"```
vernal crest
#

Is your plan to download the project, edit it and then build your own copy?

craggy cape
#

yea basically, i dont plan on distrubuting it, i just wanna edit out a small bug that bothers me

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the incorrect items showing for the trade shops i can just do that some other day

craggy cape
#

but anyways, would this be possible without using harmony patches, or do i need to use one to fix this issue? i dont mind either way, its just harmony patches are said to be .. too strong, and break with updated versions of the game T_T

lucid iron
#

If you have any mod that says "patched game code" then it's using harmony lol

craggy cape
#

ah lmfao

lucid iron
#

In your case you are modifying a mod tho, no harmony involved just getting it to build

craggy cape
#

okay thank god /lh

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least if i fuck up the code i have the backup file lol

#

but anyways

peak isle
#

make a mod that mods the mod using a harmony patch devilpepe

craggy cape
#

so would i just edit out the snippet that triggers the grid menu to appear when the dresser is opened .ᐣ 5thonking

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stupid as it sounds im jst double checking lmao

lucid iron
#

Yeah basically

craggy cape
#

bet

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also im assuming "0 references" is not a good message to see with c# code, huh?

fixed that though, i think. i have the backup incase shit goes bad

vernal crest
#

Are you planning to actually edit the mod directly or make your own mod that patches this one? Because you said "yes" to me asking if you were going to edit the mod directly but then you asked about harmony patches so now I am confused lol

craggy cape
#

i thought "oh this is a more advanced code, so i should use this harmony patch method to change it bc its not in the way im familiar with"

lucid iron
#

!startmodding

ocean sailBOT
#

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.
lucid iron
#

I'd run through the button press mod example

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Then come back with new understanding

craggy cape
#

ah oke

#

ty <3

crisp rivet
#

Please help me, I'm making a custom dinosaur myself. I made a dinosaur with CP and I also made dinosaur's egg with JA. but I cant make it put in the incubator.

gray bear
#

why are you using JA and not CP?

crisp rivet
#

I don't know to make custom item with CP

gray bear
crisp rivet
#

Thank you I gonna try this

gray bear
#

there's an example for a custom item here

crisp rivet
#

This is really helpful!! Thankyou

gray bear
#

for items to be used with a machine (incubator) you'd need to edit the machine data

crisp rivet
#

I have a one more question why shouldn't I use JA?

golden spire
#

because you no longer need it

proud wyvern
#

and JA is not gonna get any new features, ever

#

it's essentially dead

crisp rivet
#

oh

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thankyou

golden spire
#

JA was used/made before 1.6 and a lot of stuff was dehardcoded and making items with CP is doable now without conflicts with others

gray bear
#

actually is the incubator hardcoded or something machines.json seems, confusing

calm nebula
#

It's in data/animals is my sleep deprived memories

#

But that may be very very wrong

golden spire
#

as long as you don't have dreams about data/animals

gray bear
#

i'll take a look, worth checking

crisp rivet
#

I hope that someday many people will use the mod I made!

#

Thank you everyone!!1

gray bear
#

❤️ feel free to come back if u need more help

lucid iron
#

Yeah it's data farm animals you have to make the item an egg item

crisp rivet
#

Thank you!!1

gray bear
#

these?

image.png
crisp rivet
#

oh I know this. its visual studio code

gray bear
#

oh yeah that's what i use to code. very handy

#

ah ok yeah animal data on the wiki has info about eggs and incubation.

crisp rivet
#

OKAY IM GONNA MAKE THIS.

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RIGHT NOW

gray bear
#

have fun!

spring marlin
#

the secret woods is blocked by a log, can someone help me make a log thats similar to that but can only be chopped from one side? for a shortcut so that you have to get to the harder area first and then can go inbetween them both ways after chopping the log(i hope im saying this well)

calm nebula
#

I don't think there is a way to do this in any existing framework

golden spire
#

maybe may some kind of invisible barrier?

crisp rivet
#

There is a another problem
{
"Format": "2.6.0",
"Changes": [
{
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/Objects",
"Entries": {
"{{ModId}}_Pufferchick": {
"Name": "{{ModId}}Pufferchick",
"DisplayName": "Pufferchick",
"Description": "An example object.",
"Type": "Seeds",
"Category": -74,
"Price": 1200,
"Texture": "Mods/{{ModId}}/Objects"
}
},
}
]
}
this is example code.
and I have no idea what is this "{{ModId}}".

lucid iron
#

What if you just have a mailflag touch warp

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Those r vanilla

golden spire
#

CP will paste in whatever youd modid is

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into it

lucid iron
#

Set flag when player first visits the location

crisp rivet
calm nebula
#

I think lumi has some ladders that become fixed after a certain plot progression

#

You could do something like that

golden spire
#

it's a shorthand way of doing it rather than you having to type out the long id 100s of times

lucid iron
#

Yeah that'd be conditional map edit

calm nebula
#

Ie, event on this tile that changes these map tiles that fix ladder so you can crawl down from one of the later

crisp rivet
#

If my mod ID is dorin, should I use ddorin.item name?

calm nebula
#

No, you can just use {{Modid}}

#

The {{ }} tells content patcher to fill it in with something else

gray bear
#

you might wanna make it more unique than dorin

crisp rivet
#

oh I see I see

golden spire
#

the modid is what you define in your mod's manifest

crisp rivet
#

{{Modid}}_itemname ?

gray bear
#

mhm

lucid iron
#

Yep

crisp rivet
#

my brain is burning

image.png
vernal crest
#

There's a weird kind of W symbol between assets and Velociraptor.png. It looks like your forward slash is not being read properly?

spring marlin
#

is there a way to make it so when you walk on a tile it sets a Mail Flag?

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or something similar

calm nebula
#

I think you can do something with a spacecore tile action trigger action

golden spire
calm nebula
crisp rivet
golden spire
#

your image source is wrong, you don't point to the mods folder structure of the game..

calm nebula
#

(Thanks, Limey!)

crisp rivet
#

assets/VelociraptorEgg.png
I just fixed it like this. Nothing happened.

golden spire
# 
//ITEM SPRITESHEET
        {
            "Action": "Load",
            "Target": "Mods/TheLimeyDragon.Ayeisha/Objects",
            "FromFile": "assets/images/objects/Objects.png"
        },
#

I loaded my spritesheet into the game

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then I or anyone can target Mods/TheLimeyDragon.Ayeisha/Objects

#

now that the sheet is loaded into the game I can tell the item something like:

    "Texture": "Mods/TheLimeyDragon.Ayeisha/Objects",
    "SpriteIndex": 1
crisp rivet
#

oh i can try like this.

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thankyou

golden spire
#

replace TheLimeyDragon.Ayeisha with {{Modid}}

craggy cape
#

i, i think this is a good sign?

image.png
#

im trying to create a .dll to replace the old .dll file for Better shop menu but im just very confused on how exactly pfft

#

( i couldnt access the .dll so i downloaded the source code for it, since i have No idea what the .dll looks like, im assuming the source code is the same format )

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but everytime i put in the command to create a .dll file it says "git not installed" and "create CPP dll format!" SDVpufferwaaah

blissful panther
#

Where did these bits come from? Because that's... definitely not right!

image.png
craggy cape
#

the wiki...

proud wyvern
lucid iron
#

?

blissful panther
#

The wiki definitely did not tell you to use C++ style includes.

craggy cape
#

its says to reference the thing so i did, but im using a skeleton format of the c++ format

lucid iron
#

Well we are coding in C# here

proud wyvern
#

so it didn't tell you to do that

lucid iron
#

C++ won't help you

craggy cape
#

so how do i convert the file to be .dll if i cant even access .dll files to start with SDVpufferwaaah my computer wont download either code things.

lucid iron
#

Do you have any prior programming experience (im asking to gauge what i need to explain)

proud wyvern
#

a .dll file contains compiled code

#

you need to compile a project

craggy cape
#

smth about coding steve from minecraft to move and break blocks

lucid iron
#

Wow that's amazing elementary school class

craggy cape
#

5th grade lmfao

#

it was fun tho i can say that

golden spire
#

most I did at primary school was logo/turtle programming

lucid iron
#

But anyways what you need to do is forgor all the syntax about C++ because C# is a different language

#

Do you have visual studio setup?

craggy cape
#

i have visual studio code, if thats different

vernal crest
#

If you followed chu's suggestion to go through the entire getting started page to the point of testing your working mod in game, you would then be ready to just download the source for Better Shop Menu from the github, tweak the csproj slightly, and then build that straight away (please correct me if I am wrong, more experienced peeps)

lucid iron
#

You can use that too but then you need the C# devkit extension

craggy cape
#

my computer just wont dowbload the visual studio program OR the jetrider one bc its so damn old

craggy cape
golden spire
#

what are you using?

#

OS wise

craggy cape
#

a computer that cant update to windows 11 due to lacking the required hardware

#

Windows

lucid iron
#

You can use command pallet to create new project from there

golden spire
#

10?

craggy cape
#

yup, windows 10

lucid iron
#

Cross ref this guide with the wiki one because wiki is focused on visual studio

craggy cape
#

c# files are saved as .cs right?

lucid iron
#

Yep

craggy cape
#

if so i have the c# file ready

lucid iron
#

You also need a sln (which you should not hand write ever) and a csproj

golden spire
#

I have plenty of sins

lucid iron
#

All of these things are setup if you do the create class libraries

#

The point of all this is so that you understand how to compile a C# mod

craggy cape
#

indeed

#

i mean i did mention C# is a language im not 100% familiar with lmao

lucid iron
#

Since you want to compile Casey's repo though, it would really be good if you could use vs community

craggy cape
#

i tend to take things literal or overcomplicate so i appreciate u guys helpin me tho :,3

craggy cape
lucid iron
#

There's some stuff that needs hand fixing otherwise

craggy cape
#

i click it to install
it runs
nothing opens, nothing happens, acts like i didnt even touch the installer

lucid iron
#

And tbh i don't remember all of it so u will have to figure it out

craggy cape
lucid iron
#

Tis always the trouble when i clone someone else repo

blissful panther
#

Have you ever had anyone's monorepo be perfectly fine without tweaking? SDVkrobusgiggle

proud wyvern
#

try mine

lucid iron
#

But ur mods all work

proud wyvern
#

not quite

#

but i assume it's about the project setup itself

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not the code still compiling or working

blissful panther
#

Yeah, mine should be fine on any system immediately. Even building. I only have currently released projects marked to be built in the solution, so a full solution build should even be fine.

calm nebula
#

(It won't work. I have a mess of unfixed and partially committed code.)

#

This is how you can tell I'm a bad programmer 😦

blissful panther
lucid iron
#

Concerning

blissful panther
#

(It did not, in fact, build without tweaks. But it makes sense, because the first hurdle is updates to the game, and Atra's retired!)

lucid iron
#

The specific things for building casey repo is actually

  • linux windows casing problems
  • casey uses SolutionDir which doesn't exist when build by dotnet cli
#

Pathos repo has similar SolutionDir issue for me blobcatgooglyblep

blissful panther
#

It doesn't? That's... a little silly.

#

I mean I get it, but...

lucid iron
#

Oh and Casey sln has some uncommitted projects but I was just building spacecore so it wasn't an issue

calm nebula
blissful panther
#

Yeah, this is just you including the reference to be able to build, right?

calm nebula
#

Yeah, I do have some references to skiasharp

blissful panther
#

Might be a problem worth raising if Stardew uses that version of SkiaSharp...

craggy cape
#

okay i think i set everything up correctly, im booting up to see if the file will be created automatically now.

#

cus if i understand it properly, upon booting up the game and such after you did everything correctly, the dll file will be created

#

or would that be. another file.
hold on

#

oh wait i forgot the manifests HA but yea i think i atleast got the project part correct

vernal crest
#

I'm pretty sure that even with VSC you have to build it before you run the game

#

Unless you can run it through VSC so it builds automatically (which you can do with VS22)

craggy cape
#

well either way i built the file, albiet i followed the VSC guide but yea

#

i just applied the last steps from the stardew wiki where it says to delete a file and replace it with another and then copy the code into it

flat sluice
#

Hi,
(not sure if this belongs here or to programming-off-topic, so if it belongs to the other one, then sorry for asking here!)
I am trying to change in which GitHub branch I'll mainly use (→ dev branch as the development unstable one and main branch as a copy of the latest mod release). I created it 2 releases ago (then I forget about it), and to "synchronize it" with the latest release, I used a pull request (from main to dev) that I later confirmed.On GitHub, it looks like the codes are the same, which is a great news.
Then there is that problem - I use VS Code for development, and as I (hopefully) have all the needed extensions installed, I changed the branch in the down left corner from main to dev. However, that is using the file versions from the time the branch was created (a.k.a. 2 versions ago - 0.9.1).
Then, I tried the origin/dev remote branch, which has the same commit number as shown on GitHub. However, that still shows the old code - version 0.9.1 (checking the changelog), which I find strange.
My question is - how to get the correct new files that are on the GitHub dev branch to my VS Code?
My GitHub link: https://github.com/DenisSilent/Eleanor
And the dev branch changelog: https://github.com/DenisSilent/Eleanor/blob/dev/[CP] Eleanor/zzz_dummy files/changelog.md

craggy cape
#

im so stupid its kinda funny.
i created the project file, but forgot to put it in the mods folder for smapi to even recoginzie it.

image.png
#

( i had to create it with VS code so ,, it wasnt automatically placed )

flat sluice
craggy cape
#

to replace the original dll with the new version

vernal crest
#

SMAPI would not recognise the contents of that folder anyway. When you build it, it should build to a new folder containing the normal contents of a mod (manifest, .DLL file)

craggy cape
#

oh

flat sluice
vernal crest
#

I think that normally modbuildconfig autodetects your game path and mods folder and then builds into there but I don't know if that happens with VSC

craggy cape
#

and the grid menu for the dresser will be placed ontop of the chest anywhere's menu

#

making it impossible to access other chests

#

and it also auto toggles back on every time you close and open the menu again

flat sluice
craggy cape
#

i tried to patch that code out by editing the source code ꒰ since i cannot access the original dll files due to my computer being stupid and not wanting to download the proper code programs ꒱ and now this SDVpufferwaaah

flat sluice
#

Sadly, I'm not sure I can help with the code itself, but I can (or, at least try to) help you compile it, if that's the problem. Or what is?

vernal crest
#

Dottie, the original DLL would not help you. Decompiling a DLL is in no way the ideal way to reverse engineer a mod.

#

You've got the ideal thing, the source code.

craggy cape
#

ah

#

okay least im on the right path

craggy cape
vernal crest
#

If you know how to compile with VSC Dennis, you'll be able to give Dottie more help than I can.

craggy cape
#

i can send dennis the edited source code if thats alright with them

flat sluice
flat sluice
craggy cape
vernal crest
#

Just to make sure, Dennis, you know that Dottie is using VS Code and cannot use VS22 (aka VS Community)?

#

Just wanting to check since they have the same letters for their initialism (hence why I use VS22 instead to talk about VS Community).

flat sluice
brittle pasture
#

just jumping in, but any reason other than inertia to just not use VS?

vernal crest
#

My only memory of anything to do with how to use VSC for it is that there's a command palette command called "dotnet build".

#

It won't install on its computer, Selph.

craggy cape
#

my computer is very very old lmfao i need a new or atleast new upgrades for it

craggy cape
brittle pasture
#

I see, that's unfortunate

craggy cape
#

anyways @flat sluice i dmed u the files as a zip🫡

#

idk if thatll do much really but if you need the raw files i can send em too

#

idk i never messed with these formats before, i keep thinking one wrong move and itll be corrupt or broken asf xd

vernal crest
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Did you get very far with trying to create your own "babby's first mod" following the wiki, Dottie? When I started, I found it much easier to get things actually working when I did that because it was all much less complex to only have one tiny .cs file to deal with while I was trying to figure out how the process worked.

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Once I saw how the process of project creation and compiling worked, I could then focus on making the code actually do things.

craggy cape
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i didnt get very far with the babbys first mod itself but i understand how to format it properly atleast

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but i also didnt sleep in 3 days so im. probably messing up either way

vernal crest
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That is a long time to go without sleep!

craggy cape
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i dont even know how im doing it again

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last time this happened it was from me not drinking coffee for a month bc i was stupidly sick, just to drink like 2 cups of it after i recovered

brittle ledge
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dottie, if you haven't been able to sleep at all in the last three days you need to go to the hospital

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that's dangerous levels of insomnia

craggy cape
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i had like a hour nap yesterday

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so i got some sleep atleast 😭😭

brittle ledge
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lack of sleep is no joke, it can kill you SMCFrogHug please take care of yourself

craggy cape
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im aware, and i am trying to take care of myself 🫡i just dont feel tired

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idk whats going on but .ᐟ.ᐟ.ᐟ.ᐟ if i donr fall asleep sometime today im just gonna take some sleep aid

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i had to take anxiety meds for sleeping lmao, but i havent had em in a while cus that was when i was in school

brittle ledge
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even if you don't feel tired, you will get some benefit from just laying down and closing your eyes for a while, even if you can't actually sleep kyuuchan_nod2

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mythbusters proved that one!

craggy cape
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oh fr .ᐣ

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epic

split anchor
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Hi guys! I haven't used discord much but I need help with a mod I'm creating! Am I in the right place?

golden spire
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yes

split anchor
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yay!

brittle ledge
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you are indeed!

split anchor
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I created a mod with an indoor map location (an english manor) but I can't figure out how to add fire to the fireplace

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I've figured out how to add lights to the lamp-posts outside and have the light posts change at night, is it the same as that?

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For example, in Pierre's house there is a fire going inside

brittle ledge
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I.... don't think it's the same as the day/night tiles with lamps and I seem to recall it being something special/weird, but I am super not good with maps

split anchor
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🙂 Jorts and Jean! I'm following your NPC tutorial right now! How cool to meet you on here

lucid iron
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you have a few options here

brittle ledge
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ah, you may need to have EMA as a dependency

craggy cape
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oh speaking of maps i really need to fix alexs house

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smapi keeps yelling at me in red when i enter the house =<=

brittle ledge
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though that's for turning it on and off, which probably isn't the same as just having it on

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so listen to chu instead SBVLmaoDog

split anchor
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thank you all btw

lucid iron
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If the fire is just meant to be on all the time, simply animate the map tiles (you will need to grab the flame files from cursors)

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I got distracted irl sorry

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The EMA feature will work too yep

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I am making this TAS system but it's not released and probably overkill for this usecase

golden spire
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just animating wont have any lighting effects, but depends on the room. If there's a lot of internal light already... can get away with it.

split anchor
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maybe I can animate the tile and then just put a lamp light property over it?

vernal crest
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A glow similar to how lamps work would probably be ok wouldn't it?

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Haha same thought xD

craggy cape
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i wonder if you can stack or intensifiy the light properties on maps :p

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just walk into the room and instant flash bang from the lights 💀

split anchor
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Ok I'm going to go try some fire out, thanks!

golden spire
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does Ridgeside/etc have any fireplaces in their buildings? can see what they do

craggy cape
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oh.. hm, smapi isnt throwing red bc of the doors . mightve been from alex clipping into the shelf though.

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ornate locust
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I need that "get scope creeped" stickbug gif

vernal crest
craggy cape
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ive spoke about this before but im finally deciding to fix the doors atleast lmao

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edunno how to fix that clipping issue though

vernal crest
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Yes but presumably there are words in that red.

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And those words might tell you what the problem is. That's what the errors are there for.

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Sorry that sounded kind of snarky

craggy cape
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yeahh..

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i mentioned it before, im tryna find the message

gray bear
vernal crest
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It wasn't intended to be it was just me being on mobile so not wanting to type more than necessary

craggy cape
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its fine lmaoo

vernal crest
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I don't see any recent message from you with a link or a screenshot. Did you share the log last time you mentioned it?

craggy cape
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i think ?

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i dont remember but i mentioned i had issues with a mod that redesigns alexs house

vernal crest
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It wouldn't happen to be called cute valley or something would it?

craggy cape
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no its the interiors of pelican town

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maybe i sent it in another channel

vernal crest
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Stupid mobile discord makes it so hard to search for messages from one user

craggy cape
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from saturday p;fff

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the only known issues with that mod was:
transparent doors ꒰ easy fix ꒱
alex clipping thru the shelf

vernal crest
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That's the error you're talking about? That's not to do with doors or Alex clipping. The map has a property for NightTiles that it's trying to put into a tile that doesn't exist.

craggy cape
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ah

vernal crest
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I do have to go to bed but if you want to know more about it hit me up later and I'll explain in more detail.

craggy cape
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ight

vernal crest
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(Alex clipping is most likely that the map layers have been done a bit wrong or that his schedule has gone kind of funky which can make an NPC ignore collision. You can check by seeing if you can also clip in the same spot. If yes, map layer problem. If no, probably schedule.)

spring marlin
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im wanting to have it where when i press a configurable hotkey i teleport to a custom map, can someone help?

golden spire
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I don't know about a hotkey but you can add custom locations to warp to, to cjb cheats menu

lucid iron
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You can also make warp totem or items with spacecore

left crown
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ok so i have a question regarding a map im already using. the farmcave upon entering is fine. upon exiting you wind up on the other side of the map in a tree and cant move. i opened up the map and there are 3 farmcave warps. id assume 1 is entrance location, one is where you land upon exiting (and not sure of the 3rd but maybe the minecart?) these are the 3. can someone explain what im looking at/how to fix?

FarmCave 8 11 16 72 FarmCave 79 14 9 89 FarmCave 71 29 127 28

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ok thats actually prob 3 seperate caves. thinking about it.. lol

proper bobcat
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Hey, currently doing a personal recolour update, and I need to know what tilesheets I need to update. So far I have:

-season_outdoorsTilesheet_extra
-season_outdoorsTilesheet2
-season_waterfalls
-desert_festival_tilesheet
-island_tilesheet_1

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Is that everything outdoors wise (no plans to do interiors or trees) or am I missing a tilesheet to recolour?

golden spire
left crown
stark spindle
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Hey will the 'paths' layer get replaced when using "PatchMode": "Replace" in CP or am i just doing something wrong?

golden spire
left crown
golden spire
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so you should be looking at the maps that have warps TO the Farm

left crown
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so id need to open the cave map

golden spire
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yes, as that will have the warps leading to the Farm (and anywhere else if it's a custom cave)

golden spire
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but what are you trying to do with paths layer?

left crown
stark spindle
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ok great thanks. as long as there is nothing special about that layer ive just done something dumb

stark spindle
golden spire
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you probably need to reset terrain features for existing maps

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the bush wont vanish if you change the paths as it's generated on creation

stark spindle
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i dont quite get ya. how to i reset?

golden spire
stark spindle
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ooo its a mod. ok cool ill take a look

golden spire
left crown
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so the farmcave is not in the if2 folder so does that make the game use the default? if so thatd make sense why its sending the player back to what seems like that very spot on the standard map. could i make a copy of the farmcave from the base game, place it in the if2 folder, open it and change the warp there in that copied file?

golden spire
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I am surprised IF2 has such an issue, are you sure it's installed correctly?

calm nebula
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There are like multiple different versions of if2

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One of which is quite old

left crown
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yea i did. i realized it was an older created map vs a couple other IF maps made a bit newer. if i cant figure this out i will use the if4 i found

calm nebula
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My recommendation is to use if4

left crown
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i just didnt wanna restart XD

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maybe the if4 has the correct cave file XD

calm nebula
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You don't have to

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If the map is mostly the same you can probably just swap out thr maps and do a little noclip cleanup

craggy cape
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how am i now finding out you can merge layers in tiled .. 😭

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im tryna fix the alex's house and such so 💀

left crown
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there is an issue with the game im playing and idk if it was from the IF or if it was a recoloring mod i added but it put fencing back blocking the walking path to the ridge valley tram thing

calm nebula
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!mh lol

ocean sailBOT
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left crown
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i dont think its an error, i just wonder if its deletable

golden spire
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you're going to have to ask in modded tech support and get help identifying which mod is conflicting

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but it's going to be a mod that alters the BusStop

left crown
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ok ill do that

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thank you very much both of you

normal root
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Is it right to load in a texture into Maps by doing helper.GameContent.Load<Map>($”assets/{ModId}.Greenhouse1.tmx”)?

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That is in entry

tawny ore
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A tmx file is a map, not a texture

craggy cape
ocean sailBOT
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Log Info: SMAPI 4.2.1 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 121 C# mods and 391 content packs.

normal root
tawny ore
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What are you trying to do?

normal root
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I’m making an upgrade to the greenhouse and need to change the indoor map

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I’m using BuildingData.IndoorMap but it needs an asset under Content/Maps

golden spire
craggy cape
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but like

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well the maps layers, not tilesheets

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i didnt touch the tilesheets locations aside from merging those two layers

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the front2/back2 layers refer to these lil shelves, which went over the .. panneling..?

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or atleast front2 was the shelves, lemme recreate what i did bc i already forgot

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ok these are the original, untouched layers

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normal root
craggy cape
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hm.

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my intent was to move the shelf a layer back so alex wont clip into it lol

lucid iron
golden spire
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I would recommend not editing maps with missing tilesheets

lucid iron
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Use asset requested

urban patrol
lucid iron
normal root
lucid iron
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In asset requested, handle how a particular asset name is handled

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Let's say it is "Maps/Vboi.Greenhouse2"

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This string is what you put in indoormap

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Eventually when game goes to put together locations it will request the asset pointed to by indoormap and obtain the map asset you are providing in AssetRequested

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All of this is done under the hood by content patcher ofc, u r just do the same thing but on your own

normal root
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Ok thank you so much for your help!

lucid iron
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Personally i would do this whole greenhouse upgrade mod in CP

normal root
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The problem is that for buildingdata I need to be able to copy over all the data from the original greenhouse

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Since it’s an upgrade

lucid iron
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You don't have to yggy

normal root
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Is there a way to extend an existing asset in Content Patcher?

lucid iron
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Or rather, im not super sure why you cannot just copy paste the unpack content as it is

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Textures can still point to same texture

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I doubt you are changing building size

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Even map can be same map (though it sounds like you want to change it so)

normal root
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That’s the thing is I would have to copy over all the data from the original greenhouse in content.json, using SMAPI I do BuildingData upgrade = data.Data[“Greenhouse”].DeepClone()

lucid iron
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Yes but you should also be doing this data edit in AssetRequested

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How do you plan on dealing with invalidation?

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What kind of changes to base greenhouse's Data/Buildings do you expect to have to handle?

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It's not wrong to want to do a copy but my opinion is that u r add complexity here for questionable reasons

normal root
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I need to change the layout of the inside using a different map, and then handle some stuff in c# like watering crops if they have the sprinkler upgrade

lucid iron
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You can definitely change the inside to use a different map without leaving data

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Watering the crops would need C# yea, unless you just use the indoor items thing to spawn sprinklers on upgrade kyuuchan_run

lucid iron
normal root
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Yeah I think that it’s best to stick with c# for now and try and convert as much as possible later on to content patcher. Thank you for all your help! The wiki page is a great resource that I missed

lucid iron
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Well if you are already in C# I don't see much point in converting back out to content patcher

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As mentioned this content api stuff is just what content patcher does for you

calm nebula
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Yeah, and the DeepCopy is fine

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has done that too

lucid iron
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Im not that concerned about doing the copy, it's more that you now lose control of what exactly your upgraded building data contains

calm nebula
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Chue it's finnneeee for data models haha

lucid iron
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If someone does something unexpected on the vanilla greenhouse you may get impacted

calm nebula
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(Aquarium does it for the legendary bait)

normal root
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Ok I understand. I tried doing both a content patcher and c# mod but getting all the files into the right place was a huge pain and I couldn’t figure out how to replicate DeepCopy in content.json

lucid iron
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You cannot do deepcopy in content patcher, the copy i refer to was literally ctrl c ctrl v

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In exchange you are guaranteed that the building data is all exactly what you expect

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Whether this is something you desire vs sync your data up with base at all times is up to you

normal root
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Where would I copy from? The original Greenhouse file in Content?

lucid iron
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Yeah basically

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Just do new EditData on Data/FarmBuildings

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Or w/e the asset was called

clear radish
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this message was translated from Portuguese
hello! could anyone let me know where I can find the documentation for randombundles?

craggy cape
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okay so that attempt at editing out a minor bug with better shop menu is a lost cause lol

normal root
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I only want to update it when the upgrade is purchased, so I would need to make a new building? Could you show me a simple content.json of what it would look like?

lucid iron
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I am on phone rn but i can do this in few hours

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You can take a look at the coop -> big coop -> deluxe coop tho

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But i should stress that cp doesn't have a "copy this other entry at runtime feature"

flat sluice
latent mauve
lucid iron
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If you want that strongly then keep ur c# code Dokkan

normal root
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Ok thank you a lot! I’ll take a look at the upgrade path. I appreciate all of your help!

clear radish
brittle pasture
vivid granite
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This is probably a super basic question but this is baby's first mod. Why would SMapi keep throwing a "folder is empty" error when there is most certainly a .png file in that folder with the correct name and everything?

uncut viper
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because you need more than just a .png file

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if a folder does not have a manifest.json at minimum, its not a mod

vivid granite
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so i need something else in my assets folder?

uncut viper
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a png on its own will not do anything

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do you have a manifest.json file in your mod folder?

vivid granite
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yes

uncut viper
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and you are 100% sure it's a .json file, and not a .txt file that says .json? do you have file extensions visible?

vivid granite
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okay that's where i've gone wrong. do i need something special to save things as .json? I hadn't realized there was

uncut viper
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nothing too special. if you were using Notepad, dont use Notepad, but if you do, you can save it as "All files" instead of saving it as a txt and then enter the .json extension yourself. Notepad++ is usually recommended at minimum here though, it'll let you choose json specifically. Visual Studio Code would be the next step up from there

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but you should at the very least have file extensions visible no matter what you do

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!fileextensions

ocean sailBOT
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Hidden File Extensions

Windows and Mac hide most file extensions by default. If you are creating or updating mods, it's helpful to show file extensions so that you can be sure all mod files are named correctly.

To show file extensions on your computer:

On Windows 10, open File Explorer, click on the View tab, then check the File Name Extensions box.

On Windows 11, open File Explorer and click on View > Show > File Name Extensions.

On Mac, open Finder, and in the menu bar, click on Finder > Settings (or Preferences) > Advanced, then check the Show all filename extensions box.

To use this command, type !fileextensions.
uncut viper
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if you have file extensions on, then you can also just rename your .txt file to be manifest.json manually. but you will be working with json a bunch with stardew modding so you'll still want Notepad++ or Visual Studio Code

vivid granite
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okay thank you. 🫡 i'll work on that now.

tribal ore
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Hmmmmmm.... I swear I had this working earlier but I've somehow broken it during testing. What does it mean when ContentPatcher loads a patch for a resource but doesn't apply it? SecretNotes is working, for example

   Patches:
      loaded  | conditions | applied | name + details
      ------- | ---------- | ------- | --------------
      [X]     | [X]        | [ ]     | Include data/MarriageDialogue.json > EditData Mods/Kantrip.WeddingAnniversaries/Dialogue
      [X]     | [X]        | [X]     | Include data/SecretNotesCustom.json > EditData Mods/ichortower.SecretNoteFramework/Notes
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This is the patch summary for another mod trying to write to that new resource

uncut viper
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im like half sure that just means the asset wasnt requested yet

tribal ore
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Hmmmmm. So I need to add a line to force the asset to be requested? I thought the OnGameLaunched thing would be enough

uncut viper
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or possibly that Mods/Kantrip.WeddingAnniversaries/Dialogue doesnt exist yet to be EditData'd

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i dont know what you have in ongamelaunched, so

tribal ore
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Ah. I was just following the example in the wiki straight

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I'll double check I didn't miss or delete a line

uncut viper
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i dont know what example that is either

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there are many examples of many things in the wiki

tribal ore
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All the way at the bottom

uncut viper
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then assuming you have the assetrequested part at least set up right and the targets match, that will request it on game launched yeah

tribal ore
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Hmmmmmmm. Alright, I'll fiddle around again and post source if I can't get it back up. I tried turning on verbose debugging with SMAPI / Content Patcher but am not seeing additional stuff happen

uncut viper
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i dont know what content patcher's debug stuff does but SMAPIs just makes Trace level logs appear in the console

tribal ore
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Darn it

lucid iron
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Have you tried using patch export <the asset>

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That will always request the thing

tribal ore
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Not on the asset itself. Will give that a shot

uncut viper
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oh, that is a good point actually

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you wont be able to load a content patcher edit immediately

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i forgot about that part

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Content Patcher is not fully initialized right at GameLaunched

lucid iron
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Ik the wiki example has the assetready pattern but i just use lazy load instead most of the time

uncut viper
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so the asset is being requested but its before Content Patcher edited it

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bc Content Patcher wasn't ready yet

lucid iron
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Or just slacc and do Game1.content.Load<yourassettype>(yourassetname) at the place i need it

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Game itself does this most of the time

tribal ore
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Patch export works. It has the expected values

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Hmmmmmm.

spiral lion
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hello!!
anyone opinonated here?
i need feedback in the making mods art ❤️

tribal ore
lucid iron
uncut viper
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you will also need to add an AssetsInvalidated event if you're not doing AssetReady

tribal ore
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Forgot to do it in both

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The Game1.content.Load call is missing in the method I'm testing

uncut viper
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no, the problem is that content patcher edits cant exist at gamelaunched

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lazy loading will get around that problem but its not the source of the problem itself

lucid iron
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Hm if you never cache the data anywhere beyond what game content already does you can skip doing invalidate right

uncut viper
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assuming whatever is doing the lazy loading is not needing it at game launched

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if something in your code still attempts to load the data immediately, lazy loading wont fix this

lucid iron
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Here's a lazy loading with caching example

uncut viper
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if the data is never cached you probably dont need to invalidate i guess but its always nice to cache things if possible imo

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i know SMAPI already does

lucid iron
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The thing is also dependent on what ur design is

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If you do it like Characters/kantrip.WeddingAnniversaryDialog/<character id>

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Then it's probably fine to not cache it anywhere

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I usually do a string to model dict tho, so caching that whole dict makes sense

uncut viper
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sill a minor performance impact to request it every time, though

tribal ore
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I'm doing keys like "Anniversary_NPC", so that they can be overwritten. If the key isn't in the dictionary at the time I want it, I use a default

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That should work, as long as CP actually applies the patch

lucid iron
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Yep then u should definitely cache the dict

hot gale
ocean sailBOT
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Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, with 32 C# mods and 31 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

uncut viper
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CP is only not applying the patch right now because you are requesting it too quickly. it would have worked if you changed OnGameLaunched to OnSaveLoaded for instance

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or just waited 4 ticks

tribal ore
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Alright, I'll switch to OnSaveLoaded as the quickest workaround and see if that works

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IF not, I'll look at that caching example

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Thanks, both!

uncut viper
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as chu says it depends on your design whether you need to do both or not

whole raptor
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Is there a better way of changing a portrait based on something that happened during an event now in 1.6? Like an event can lead to multiple results. Or would it be still setting a flag with an event and then either wait a day or do an update on location change? SDVpufferthink

uncut viper
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Appearances would be my guess

whole raptor
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Hmm.. oh yeah, I guess that's one way, since they don't need updates

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Now to figure out how to set up and event with like... 10 different choices/flags and a dialogue tree SDVpufferthink

golden spire
whole raptor
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I don't think I like where this is going... SDVpufferpain

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lucid iron
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How long is the appearance supposed to last

whole raptor
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Forever or until the event is seen again with a different choice

lucid iron
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Is there compat concerns

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Do u change both sprite and portrait

whole raptor
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Although now that I'm thinking about it... it'd be like amount of choices times 4 seasons so that may not be the best solution SDVpufferthink

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Yep

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Compat shouldn't be an issue tho

lucid iron
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Yeah u would have 4x entries with a large enough negative precedence

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Condition on mailflag from event and season

whole raptor
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I doubt we can overlay appearances? hah

lucid iron
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Nop

uncut viper
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why do you need 4x? cant you just set season to any

calm nebula
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You may not

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Until chue let's go

lucid iron
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Nou

whole raptor
lucid iron
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Anyways while you may not do overlay on the entries you can just do bunch of edit image to new target

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So that you don't need to duplicate them pngs as much

whole raptor
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True, that'd need update on location change, but it shouldn't be that big of an issue I guess SDVpufferthink

lucid iron
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No i meant

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Load the base to new target

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EditImage the new target

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Use new target in appearance entry

uncut viper
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thats what i was thinking too so i approve chu's suggestion

lucid iron
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Im sure sinz will come bonk us for this but imo not duplicating png more important than perf

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Keep it easy to manage for yourself

whole raptor
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Oh wait, so I can just create a multiple targets that aren't used anywhere and assign them to appearance as needed? Or am I misunderstanding SDVpufferthink

uncut viper
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you can create whatever target you want whenever you want with a Load

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creating a target for appearances would be no different from creating a target for an item spritesheet

whole raptor
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Hmm.. I think I'm lost SDVpufferpain
The situation is something like this, I have base seasonal variants of a portrait with it's own overlay, on top of that there's gonna be an event with a choice on which the base overlay will change to one of the others and the change should be applied right after the event (or after changing locations)...

uncut viper
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can i ask for quick clarification on what is base and what is overlay and which is changing bc to me "base overlay" is an oxymoron and i wanna make sure im understanding correctly

lucid iron
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I have local tokened thing for loading different babies to new targets

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Overlay in this world be the hair eye and clothes

whole raptor
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Nvm, I think I'll just wait till everything is more ironed out 😅 but thanks for ideas

noble marsh
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Does anybody know where the shadow next to Dusty's pin is stored? Or how I can find out? Lookup Anything is just telling me it's part of spring/summer/fall/winter_outdoorsTileSheet, but I can't find anything resembling it. I wanna see if I can apply the same shadow to the other fences in the area.

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latent mauve
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If you are adding your own shadows, the v1_6 shadows sheet might be better to use

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The name was something like that

noble marsh
split anchor
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Hi, there is a shadow tilesheet for each season. Look for spring_Shadows.png, summer_Shadows.png, etc.

lucid iron
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The best way is open up town tmx

latent mauve
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Not at my computer at the moment, but yeah, town has it

noble marsh
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I'll check town.tmx. What program works for opening those files?

split anchor
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I also have a shadow related question. I made a custom map and used the berry bush symbol on the path layer to put several berry bushes in. But some of the bushes cast shadows and some don't. Do you know why this is or how I can fix it?

lucid iron
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Tiled

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[[modding:maps]]

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lucid iron
split anchor
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one sec let me get a screenshot

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something I tried just now fixed it! But I'm not sure which thing was the problem and I've got to fix my other bushes now

mystic skiff
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Hi Aba.
Just checked and there is 3 tutorial about MFM that were flagged as obsolete.
I get that CP could be the preferred way for simple mail, but MFM is really not obsolete by any means.
It has some features that can't be done with just CP, some people consider it simpler to work with, and now mail data for MFM can also be loaded through CP.
It's sad to work a lot on new feature to see people just tagging it obsolete and discouraging other to check out what it can do that CP can't.
thank you for taking your time to revert this.

whole raptor
lucid iron
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Yep digus exposed the model as a custom asset too

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You can do editdata on it now wew

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And put it in ur cp mod

golden spire
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with my "everyone is Clint mod" I forgot I also did the movies:

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I keep thinking about making a set of cutom movies for the game, but I suck at art and there is no way I can make a whole set look consitent and in the same style

lucid iron
whole raptor
lucid iron
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I feel like the advanced features aren't very well known

old edge
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what does this symbol mean?

golden spire
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is it even a symbol? where exactly is that?

lucid iron
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Is that a map tile

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I can't rly tell bc of the blue

spring marlin
old edge
golden spire
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but where IS that image?

old edge
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in the mines

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or dangerous mines probably

lucid iron
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I wanna say magic circle of some sort but +1 on no clue where it's used Dokkan

golden spire
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well I assume it's just some mr Qi related mysteriousness

spring marlin
old edge
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so If I use it in my map for decorational purposes it won't mess with lore or stuff

golden spire
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I don't think it really is anything specifically, no real lore behind it

spring marlin
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its just used as a teleport marker

spring marlin
old edge
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my idea...

sdfsafd.png
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I'm trying to make a room look magical

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but

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any idea for what assets to use.

hard fern
# old edge any idea for what assets to use.

If you're feeling up to it you could make your own 🤔 im not sure if vanilla game really has that much "magic stuff" hmm i mean we have junimo furniture but i don't know if it would fit well in a cave

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What about those stones in the ginger island cave?

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The ones that you have to play simon with