making-mods-general

[gentle rose]

can you try using the original for one and the edited one for the other?

[craggy cape]

both as in , the one fellow made me, and the one from the dog mod

[craggy cape]

wait wdym? like, have the lady-black sprite replace dog.png and see if the error occurs still?

[vernal crest]

Actually, it is not the files

Man this would be so much easier if they were named by breed instead of these random names!

[craggy cape]

is it the sizing ? thats the only other issue i can think would happen, atleast for the sprite itself not showing

the lady sprites are cocker spaniels

thats all i know 😭

[vernal crest]

Okay I think it is that the maker of YADM appears to have intermittently put a typo in their own mod name for the textures

[gentle rose]

so replacing another dog works?

[craggy cape]

i did try with the vanilla replacement file but, it also didnt work LOL

so yea thats probably the case of the typo then

lemme check the content\

[uncut viper]

i dont see a typo, where is it? why wouldnt SMAPI/CP complain about a non-existent file/texture?

[craggy cape]

maybe its the lady and black not being seperated by a dash..? i doubt that though

"LogName": "lady-black", "Action": "EditData", "Target": "Data/Pets", "TargetField": ["Dog", "Breeds"], "Entries": { "Yetanotherdog.ladyblack":{ "Id": "Yetanotherdog.ladyblack", "Texture": "Mods\\Yeatanotherdog\\lady-black", "IconTexture": "Mods\\Yetanotherdog\\icons", "IconSourceRect": { "X": 0, "Y": 0, "Width": 16, "Height": 16 }, "BarkOverride": null, "VoicePitch": 1.0, "CanBeChosenAtStart": false }, } },

[vernal crest]

I haven't made it that far, I just opened the content.json and noticed that lady-black is calling a different texture than what it's loading. It's asking for this: "Texture": "Mods\\Yeatanotherdog\\lady-black" but has been loaded to this: Mods\\Yetanotherdog\\lady-black

[uncut viper]

oh, i was looking for a typo in "lady-black"

[craggy cape]

same pf

[gentle rose]

yeat

[craggy cape]

ya YEAT

[gentle rose]

[vernal crest]

Every other dog had the Yeat typo

[uncut viper]

wait, how does your corgi work? none of these have the right texture it seems?

oh

[craggy cape]

i feel like i should notify space captain about the typo.. if .. they even do updates on it

[uncut viper]

i see

every other dog does have the typo. but every other dog is loaded to the typo

[vernal crest]

Yes lol

[uncut viper]

Dottie, you literally chose the only dog that wouldnt work to replace

you're telling me Pet textures dont have null checks?

[vernal crest]

(Button wasn't actually asking you that question btw)

[uncut viper]

(yeah thats more just me exasperating out loud)

[craggy cape]

let me try to replace a different file then

see if the issue persists lmao

[craggy cape]

the typo does explain why the icon appeared fine though LOL

[craggy cape]

my bbg <3

[vernal crest]

This whole time it was just a terrible coincidence for you Dottie lol

[craggy cape]

ok yk whats funny. that dogs name is lady

hence why i wanted to replace the lady-black sprites

[craggy cape]

mb for crashin out a little then LOL

i get stressed too easily rip

[uncut viper]

im confused why it only threw an error when it got to the draw code

and pretty far into the draw code at that

[vernal crest]

It was really unusual that it exploded like that. Normally that doesn't happen.

It broke my whole farmhouse

ANd then crashed the game, of course

[craggy cape]

ok im gonna put my mods back and replace a seperate dog file

actually, would the error occur again if i were to rename the file itself and the file within the content code ?

[uncut viper]

if you kept everything the way it was when it was crashing, but fixed the typos in content.json, it'd work fine

[craggy cape]

like, if i were to rename the sir barks alot file, then rename the code corresponding to the file.

[vernal crest]

This bug has been reported to the mod creator but they didn't know how to investigate it or fix it.

[uncut viper]

itd work as long as things were renamed properly, yeah. literally the only issue is the typo from the original mod

[craggy cape]

ight

[vernal crest]

I feel I must do a proper bug report and tell them how to fix it, but I am too exhausted right now.

[cerulean rune]

hey, can i make mod using python?

[uncut viper]

no*

*if you make a python modloader/framework sure but good luck

[craggy cape]

i'll do it for ya

[cerulean rune]

so which programming language should i use for stardew valley

[vernal crest]

You'll need to give them specific instructions how to find and fix it, since they did not seem to be able to manage that by themselves/.

[craggy cape]

LMAO the "please work" code section

[uncut viper]

depends on the mod you want to make. most mods just use json for Content Patcher. otherwise, its C#

[vernal crest]

That sounds mean. I did not mean it cruelly but I am not up to rewording so: my intent was not to be mean about them.

[uncut viper]

it may not help that at least judging from their comment it seems like they mightve asked Pathos for help? but it was missed then too and suggested it might be an AT bug

[vernal crest]

Yeah I saw that. I am guessing that Pathos based his suggestion off the slightly convoluted discussion between the mod user and mod author and so didn't know what was actually going wrong? But I don't know.

[uncut viper]

shrugs. i was unable to actually find the conversation in here, so it mightve taken place over nexus DMs

[craggy cape]

"i found the issue with the bug related to the dog textures, there was a typo with "Yet" within the code on all the dogs.
instead of, for example "Texture": "Mods\Yetanotherdog\tallest-girl-in-town", the word "Yet" was spelt "Yeat", and so was the "Target" in the "// please work" group.

Although, lady-black was the only one without this typo, which caused only her textures to break and eventually leading to the game breaking."

that sound good?

[uncut viper]

i would mention that lady-black was the only one WITHOUT the typo, which is why it was only her that broke

[craggy cape]

oke doke

[uncut viper]

i feel like Pet.draw should probably have the same "if null draw an error instead" check that NPC.draw does lol

do farmanimals also crash you if you give them a null texture?

[vernal crest]

No clue but that should be easy to test just by setting a vanilla animal's texture to null, right?

[uncut viper]

it would be if it werent 5am

[craggy cape]

i didnt know if i shouldve commented it or made a bug report but either way i told space about the error. is he also in this server? ꒰ just curious abt that part ꒱

[vernal crest]

It's only 7pm here but it's 5am in my heart

[craggy cape]

this is the comment i made 👍

[vernal crest]

No idea, I've never heard of him

I'll have a go at breaking a chicken

[craggy cape]

lmaooo

i would say good luck but that sounds kinda easy

either way good luck

[vernal crest]

Nexus seems to have decided that I have to choose between slow download and fast download every single time I download something now. Not pleased.

[gentle rose]

that's what always happens when you don't have premium, isn't it? it's what always happened to me

[vernal crest]

Mine used to remember that I always chose slow and would just download automatically

[gentle rose]

interesting, mine never did

[vernal crest]

I am such a dork, I downloaded a barn animal mod and then tested a chicken

[craggy cape]

chimkem

[vernal crest]

I guess I will just be thankful for the time I did get then

[craggy cape]

well did you succeed so far

[gentle rose]

once you release Hiria you'll be swimming in UDLs and will have free premium anyway

(seriously all of you that work on NPCs for ages end up making the coolest things)

[dusk mulch]

well let’s see if sleep fixes my brain like you said irocendar

[vernal crest]

No...I forgot that a CP replacer mod was just going to Load a new texture over the vanilla one instead of setting the Texture field itself to null.

[dusk mulch]

gn

[craggy cape]

ignoring the misplacement of the icons, thats bc i had it in a smaller window screen, BUT YIPPEEE

lady is real 🩷🩷🩷

[uncut viper]

lady black, brought back from the dead

[gentle rose]

did not say that, I said sleep is good for you, but good luck

[dusk mulch]

tomato tomato- i can’t really do that in text… anyway. gn!

[vernal crest]

I was really hoping not to have to make my own mod for this

But I am too tired to try to find one that adds new breeds

[rigid musk]

Mod for what Aba?

[uncut viper]

what about qi chickens

[rigid musk]

I ended up vanishing for a while cause I spoke with one of my roommates -

[uncut viper]

speaking of

[rigid musk]

qi chickens

[uncut viper]

do you add qi chickens

[rigid musk]

I can add qi chickens

[uncut viper]

i still think you should add qi chickens
though the need was urgent

Aba is trying to crack a chicken open

[rigid musk]

Sprites were given to me by Void, all I need to do is write the stuff ..

To.. crack a chicken open?

Like a geode?

[uncut viper]

Aba wants to test if setting the texture of a farm animal to null will crash the game

so was looking for a mod that added farm animals to test it on

for quick n easy editing purposes

[rigid musk]

Oh well there are a fair few mods that add animals

I think mizu's turkeys is one right?

[uncut viper]

finding one on the spot when you dopnt know their names is tougher though

[craggy cape]

oh mizus quails adds a new animal

[rigid musk]

Ah yeah the quails

[craggy cape]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/25028

[rigid musk]

I don't have the capacity to make a mod that quickly right now

[vernal crest]

It's fine, I've made it already

[craggy cape]

coding wise i dont but texture wise i sure do

[rigid musk]

I may not be tipsy or anything but I did have a lot to drink, which means I'm dehydrated, and I also haven't slept in ... many hours

[rigid musk]

Such speed... such amazingness...

[vernal crest]

Drink water Lily 🚰

[craggy cape]

hmm

[rigid musk]

I had a bit, but I'm going to sleep and I don't wanna get up for the bathroom more than necessary

[craggy cape]

tempted to recolor those honeys to match the flower... but theres so manY

[rigid musk]

I also have to get up in... 3 ish hours so I want to sleep as long as possible

[craggy cape]

lily go to SLEEP

[rigid musk]

I will eventually ✨️✨️

[craggy cape]

fair enough

[rigid musk]

That would be a lot of honey to recolor but would it be worth it for you?

Especially if you added pretty simple bands it might be easy

[craggy cape]

perfectionism says yeah

[vernal crest]

Hmm chimken did not break

[craggy cape]

ok the mod i use for the honeys is actually aimons fancy artisan goods icons, which has compatibility with a few mods i have installed.

[rigid musk]

I reacted with the wrong thing but I don't know what I was going to react with in the first place

[craggy cape]

so if i can figure out how to make a compat with the rest of the mods i have that adds flowers/honey, it might save me alot of time xd

[final sequoia]

Thank you @brittle ledge and @brave fable . I was thinking of this issue this morning, and came to the conclusion that: so what. While I would love him to travel more through the town and things, his current (weird) pathing fits him. He presents like Maru/Demetrius, but thinks like Emily. So him taking a very direct route behind buildings, through grass, and everything like that actually kind of fits him. But this helped me figure out how to have him move in different directions for when I want him to. 🙂

[craggy cape]

or.. yea just recolor

[rigid musk]

And then I reacted to my own message.. yeahhh I'm gonna go sleep now

Good luck with your chicken testing Aba

[vernal crest]

Patch export says texture is null though. Maybe it needs to be a newly formed chicken?

[craggy cape]

in my case is was a "deleted" animal being replaced with a new animal, so yeah

[uncut viper]

pets are a different c# class, so maybe its just somethin about them or pets specifically. farmanimals i asked abt bc they were what i gave a quick glance and didnt immediately see a null check either

but theres a buncha places one could be i spose

[rigid musk]

Chicken pet test when/silly

[craggy cape]

ok im debating on how to do this recolor ..
a.) attempt to use code rather than manually recoloring all honeys
b.) manually recolor all honeys and replace their file in the mod they came from

[vernal crest]

I have created an error item chicken!

[craggy cape]

yippee!

[uncut viper]

[vernal crest]

Behold Snutso, my beautiful error chicken

[uncut viper]

i love Snutso

[vernal crest]

Huh and when I grew Walbert the chick, whom I bought before I nulled the baby texture too, she grew into Walbert the chick-who-is-actually-an-adult.

[uncut viper]

i wonder where it fixes itself

or catches itself, rather

[vernal crest]

I was wondering the other day when the error chicken got used.

[craggy cape]

hm. i realized there is bases for the roe and pickles, but no base for honey

[uncut viper]

(also i am very appreciative of you testing and satisfying my curiosity )

[vernal crest]

You're welcome! Also wow I really did make a mod in three minutes huh

[uncut viper]

time to put it on nexus

[vernal crest]

It'd probably get more downloads than my other two mods combined xD

[uncut viper]

i think if you named it "This mod breaks your chickens." a bunch of people would download it out of pure curiosity

[vernal crest]

It's called "Break A Chicken" lol

[uncut viper]

Chick Breaker mod but its just a reskin of Brick Breaker where the ball is a chick orb

and the bricks are like. joja crates or smth

[vernal crest]

That is a pretty gigantic scope creep from a mod that just removes the textures from the chickens xD

[uncut viper]

the bigger the scope creep the more real of a modder you are

[vernal crest]

Actually I gave the adult chickens the Texture "Harblegarble" and the babies "Boo" because I'm lovely like that

[uncut viper]

new mod name, Chick Harblegarbler

[vernal crest]

Does that make you the real modder or me? Is it scope creeper or scope creepee?

[uncut viper]

im not THAT creepy

[craggy cape]

trying my hardest to word a question but failing so bad

[uncut viper]

new chicken scope creep mod name: Peepers Creepers

[vernal crest]

There are no chickens, it just replaces all the music in the game with the song Jeepers Creepers

[uncut viper]

you get me

can the music be made with chicken peep sounds though

chicken peep remix

[vernal crest]

Yes

[uncut viper]

thank you. ill be waiting for it on your mod page soon

[vernal crest]

I will gift you half my DP for being my esteemed associate

[uncut viper]

which half

[vernal crest]

The lesser half

You're not that esteemed

[craggy cape]

how do i create like a "base" texture, like the picklebagi icon thats greyed out ? how can i make it so that texture will change colors depending what flower created the honey?

like, if i have a pink flower, no honey texture, how can i make the base honey texture become pink to match the flower?

[uncut viper]

you drive a hard bargain but i accept

is that picklebagi using perhaps EBAGI

[craggy cape]

yes but i wanna use a specific honey texture

and make a base out of it for compat with the flowers that the fancy EBAGI doesnt cover

[uncut viper]

i believe EBAGI can let you do that but im not sure as ive never used it, only looked at the docs once months ago

[uncut viper]

i think its in the Articles?

i know (aka think) EBAGI is only on github but it should follow the same rules as normal BAGI

[craggy cape]

thats the honey texture i wanna use and be compat with the flowers fancy EBAGI textures doesnt cover

[uncut viper]

if EBAGI is also on nexus then ignore that and pretend i didnt say it

[craggy cape]

hmm, oke

[uncut viper]

but yeah id check the Articles tab on the BAGI nexus page

all i can do from here is wish you luck though bc im going to bed

[craggy cape]

fair LOL

[mighty ginkgo]

is there something about honey that the vanilla machine rules can't do the coloring like for other "flavored" products? with Extra Machine Config if needed

[craggy cape]

well, really all i want to do is change the colors for the honeys of flowers EBAGI/Fancy EBAGI doesnt specifically support

like, the hydrangea flowers i have are the default honey color w/ the Fancy EBAGI icons, if i have a pink hydrangea, id want the honey to be pink

[craggy cape]

this shows the modded flower honeys that arent recolored bc theyre not supported by Fancy EBAGI and such

the ones that are supported with that retexture are colored differently

[mighty ginkgo]

can you link the mod that does the coloring of the supported flowers? just so i can see what it does

[craggy cape]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/28512
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/28517 |
are the ones linked in the mods section

cornucorpia flowers/crops

but the description does state this:
"Supported mods:
Starder Valley Expanded
Ridgeside Village (only jelly and wine)
Ancient Crops
The Love of Cooking 
Winter Crops
Lucky Clover 
Sweet Gem Fruit
Octopetalas
Korea Blossom
Quaint Living - Flower Garden"

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/23373 is the primary mod

[mighty ginkgo]

yeah, i guess that framework doesn't support generic rules to do the coloring so each flower needs to be accounted for individually. or at least that's the way the second linked mod does it. personally i'd try to make a vanilla machine rule that produces the colored honeys based on the flower data (Extra Machine Config might be necessary), but that probably means including the honey image in the mod, which might be a problem if you mean to release the mod. but i don't know, maybe there are better ways to do it

[craggy cape]

nah im not gonna release the mod lol , its strictly for personal use

[hallow prism]

what is the best way to see why someone can't make a machine recipe when they claim they got the mail unlocking it? i asked a patch summary modid but it doesn't show modid related mail flags as i expected

i wonder what is best between LA and a patch summary full

[craggy cape]

oh hi lumi

[hallow prism]

hi

[craggy cape]

i think i could try the vanilla rule thing

okay wow thats kinda simple, basically i just need to insert CopyColor into the OutputItem

[mighty ginkgo]

might be more complex than that, but try it at least

[craggy cape]

long as i can get the color copied to the output i think id be fine

i have created a base honey texture, i think

its greyscale version of the texture i wish to change the color of per flower

[vernal crest]

Can they use LA's F1 feature on the machine, scroll down to the recipes, and then send you a screenshot? That way you will at least be able to see if the recipe is unlocked. (I think - that's what the recipe being greyed out means, I'm pretty sure.)

Oh, I see the issue with the mail flags (I went creeping on your mod page lol). A patch summary full should show the whole list. Could you ask for both?

[hallow prism]

yeah i am just annoyed of asking twice

so this time i want to do it right but also not overwhelm user

[vernal crest]

Yeah that's understandable.

[gentle rose]

I think there are console commands that list mail flags?

huh, there are not. Weird.

add that to the list of things to add if I ever make a Debug Toolbox mod

[vernal crest]

Patch summary does list all the mail flags, you just need full

I should specify: all the mail flags the player currently has

[calm nebula]

Generally patch parse {{HasFlag|contains=myMailId}}

[gentle rose]

how strict is the parsing? could it be broken by someone doing something indirectly, like using local tokens?

[hallow prism]

i usually use the patch parse or the GSQ one for personal use but it's extra steps for someone not familiar, i guess i could try however

[gentle rose]

I get what you mean about wanting to have a single command available that you can ask people to run

[vernal crest]

What would be covered in such a command that doesn't already exist in patch summary?

[gentle rose]

it would actually cover less, theoretically, which is the goal in my opinion. It's a single command you can ask people to run which has easy to parse, non-scary output

[hallow prism]

yeah my issue with patch summary full is that depending of number of mods can be pretty heavy

so my attempt was a compromise (i didn't think of the patch parse or the GSQ one at the time)

[vernal crest]

You can just do patch summary "Lumisteria.MtVapius" full though

So it'll be the same as what you got but with no truncating

Or if you only care about the global tokens and not even about your own mod's patches, you can just put a nonsense mod ID in instead and it will display the global tokens and then not showing anything for the content patches.

[gentle rose]

I always like to have both general and specific options available to suit my needs, if possible. Like some users are terrified of console output they don't understand, in which case, patch summaries (even for individual mods) can end up scaring them

[vernal crest]

If they're so scared that they can't even avert their eyes to put the file into the log parser and then send you the link...well that's probably a point at which I'd be saying "good luck, you're on your own!"

[calm nebula]

The issue with patch summary is that she needs the result of a gsq

Good morning!

[vernal crest]

But she's checking for a mail flag

And you don't need the result of a GSQ to see that

[gentle rose]

is there an issue with having a command of its own that maybe we aren't noticing, aba?

[spice inlet]

there is a ub hasflag <mailid> command as well

if you find that easier to write

[gentle rose]

ub?

I don't see ub in the console commands documentation?

[vernal crest]

Unlockable Bundles

[spice inlet]

yeah there's a whole bunch of them commands for unlockable bundles

[gentle rose]

oh, is unlockable bundles involved? I thought we were looking at a VMV thing

ig I don't remember if that's a VMV dependency or not, but if it isn't, then you can't really ask a user to use it since they may not have UB haha

[spice inlet]

it is

[gentle rose]

ah, fair enough

[vernal crest]

No, I'm just unsure why patch summary is being deemed as insufficient for purpose in this situation. I am curious how you'd specify which things would be worth putting into your hypothetical command, though. Would you have lots of different ones depending on which thing the mod author needed to look at? Or one command with a bunch of arguments? Or is your idea to just have one command that only lists a few things - in which case, what would you consider to be worth adding that would make the command useful enough for many purposes without scaring users? (These are all genuine questions but mostly idle curiosity, so no pressure to answer them )

[gentle rose]

honestly, it's the last one. It's a "nice to have" - I wouldn't ever install a mod just to add that, but since I was already thinking of making a debug toolkit mod regardless, it's a "no harm done by throwing it in there" kind of scenario to me. Not fulfilling a strict need but if it becomes useful to people then it's there

[hallow prism]

does a patch summary "mod.id" full even exists?

it's not insufficient in itself, it is insufficient in the way i did it because, likely, the patch summary mod.id has no idea which mods adds which letter (which i didn't realise when asking for it)

it's just that one version was insufficient and one version is too sufficient 😄

[gentle rose]

The goal of a debugtk mod would be to have a lot of small parts that don't do anything on their own but you can trigger to do various useful things. No harm having it installed because it does nothing unless you ask it to, so you can just have it be a harmless part of a debug loadout

[spice inlet]

you could probably do a pr for smapis console commands

if it's something generally useful

[gentle rose]

if/when I make it, a large part would probably be a set of console commands of the style debugtk <subcommand> [...options] or dtk <subcommand> [...options]

[gentle rose]

could be, but I figured I'd make it first and then we'll see how useful it actually is haha

[wise oar]

Hello everyone, could anyone help me create a voice chat for stardew valley? I'm trying to do it, but it doesn't work for me (I mean it kind off works, but you can't hear anyone during the game).

[gentle rose]

like, on discord?

[vernal crest]

Yes! This is an example from the CP docs (ignore that it's listing two content packs). I use patch summary modID full every time I do a mod-specific patch summary.

[gentle rose]

that hobbithouse mod really pulled its weight in SMAPI and content patcher related stuff

(iirc pathos said it's the house in the smapi banner)

[craggy cape]

ok maybe i should just manually recolor since im extremely confused on how to even organize the codes LMFAO

[spice inlet]

mhm, I think I'll just add an ub printflags command that prints all registered (mail) flags and sorts them alphabetically.

[gentle rose]

yeah, that was my plan! I'm guessing it would be super useful as part of ub given what ub does probably interacts with mail flags a lot

(I love when mods add their own debug commands btw! I always appreciate it as a mod user and tech support person)

[tough crater]

I don't know how, but I lost the webpage that has information on how to i18n config options

If anyone's confused, this is my i18n for my config options, but I want to reference the page again

For whatever reason, I can't find the documentation 😭

[wise oar]

@spice inlet do you speak spanish?

[spice inlet]

I do not

[wise oar]

Ah XD

[spice inlet]

Pina Colada is a cocktails name 😄

[wise oar]

Yeah, i know

[spice inlet]

taking after atra with the goofy names

[vernal crest]

It can be so hard to find! I went to three pages to get this lol https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/config.md#translations

[calm nebula]

Hey

[spice inlet]

<3

[tough crater]

THERE WE GO, thanks so much!!!

[gentle rose]

which is why I didn't realise who you were for the first like ten messages you sent why do you all do this to me /lh

[orchid glade]

Can you safely use [ ] in strings? (eg. Strings/Notes), or would I need to escape them of something?

*or

[gentle rose]

really good question, pretty sure they need to be escaped because of tokenisable strings

also special characters in strings in stardew can be weird regardless since some of them are replaced with symbols (= is ⭐ for example)

honestly I'd be very careful about how I escape them just in case they get parsed twice somewhere and end up unescaped I don't trust how the game parses things

[craggy cape]

debating if i should sleep and do this project later or push thru

or just actually play stardew

[pine elbow]

Follow your heart

[brittle granite]

So I have tried to add another crop to my crop mod and I can spawn it normally through cheats and grow it, but when I go to summer pierre dosn't seem to sell it.

would anyone know where my issue lies?

[orchid glade]

I might just use regular () instead then

[hallow prism]

did you add it to pierre stock?

[brittle granite]

I did

here is the code

"Changes": [
{
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/Shops",
"TargetField": [ "SeedShop", "Items" ],
"Entries": {

        "Rogue.Rogues_Crops_CarnationSeeds": {
            "Id": "Rogue.Rogues_Crops_CarnationSeeds",
            "ItemId": "Rogue.Rogues_Crops_CarnationSeeds",
            "Condition": "SEASON spring summer",
            "IgnoreShopPriceModifiers": true,
            "Price": 45,
 
              
            
        "Rogue.Rogues_Crops_AcanthusSeeds": {
                  "Id": "Rogue.Rogues_Crops_AcanthusSeeds",
                  "ItemId": "Rogue.Rogues_Crops_AcanthusSeeds",
                  "Condition": "SEASON summer",
                  "IgnoreShopPriceModifiers": true,
                  "Price": 50,
              },
          },


              }
        }
    ]
}

[hallow prism]

which one is the one not working?

[brittle granite]

Acanthus

[brave fable]

a quick visit to https://json.smapi.io reveals why your code doesn't work:
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/078a8a71e51c4d76b27996e6318e8759

[pine elbow]

are you missing closing brackets?

[brave fable]

please remember to try the json parser first, if only to share the file more easily

[brittle granite]

oh man my bad

oh wait actually I do have that

I just didint paste it

let me use that code checker though

I appreciate the double check though!

[vernal crest]

(Are you writing this in a text editor like VS Code? You can get syntax highlighting and error checking if you do.)

[brittle granite]

I am, but it checks like almost every coma as an error so ive been not trusting it

[brave fable]

compare each to see the difference:
old -> https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/078a8a71e51c4d76b27996e6318e8759
new -> https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/d9c8610572954f9abb570acd00eb6554
you've just misplaced your {} braces, meaning you've essentially got only a single Entries entry, half-filled with the data from what was meant to be the second item

if it sees a whole bunch of errors in your json formatting, that's a problem with your json formatting, not with the text editor

[brittle granite]

ah so I need to encase every single one with that

just like this for an example

warnings I guess not errors

[vernal crest]

You should change it to be JSONC, not JSON

[brittle granite]

ah okay

[vernal crest]

Then it will be happier about things that are actually acceptable in Stardew and you can pay more attention to the errors

You can also press Alt-Shift-F to format your code so it's all nicely indented and stuff.

[brave fable]

like so:

[brittle granite]

you read my mind blueberry, thank you guys

[brave fable]

note: jsonc is json with comments, but also generally looser syntax iirc, so it won't flag trailing commas as errors (probably)

[orchid glade]

OMG thankyou, no more complaining about comments

still flags trailling commas btw

[brave fable]

well in any case, SMAPI's json parser doesn't care about trailing commas or comments, so you're safe to ignore those specifically in your json files

* i am not responsible for injury or misadventure caused by ignoring json errors

[brittle granite]

ok cool, thank you!

lol

[orchid glade]

I am like, 20 lines away from the end of my translation O.o

[vernal crest]

I thought it changed from flagging trailing commas as errors to warnings

[lucid comet]

stupid c# question: i'm getting the exact "Feature xx is not available" error that is mentioned in the note on the getting started wiki page (https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started right above "add your manifest"), added the snippet to my .csproj aaaand it's still complaining. what am i missing? o.o

[vernal crest]

Yeah it does

[orchid glade]

oh maybe, I don't know the difference 😉 I'm very green in vscode

All i know is it squiggly underlined it

[calm nebula]

Try <langversion>12</langversion>

[vernal crest]

The colour-coding gives it away, surely? Red for STOP, yellow for SLOW DOWN lol

[lucid comet]

... i should've tried that, tysvm

[orchid glade]

Oh yeah, I might have noticed that if the line were under something longer than a comma...

[vernal crest]

Haha true

[brittle granite]

Lets Go!!!! That worked, thank you for pointing out my error

[vernal crest]

Mwa ha ha ha! I just edited my VSC so trailing commas are accepted by json and jsonc

[brittle granite]

spill the beans

😂

[orchid glade]

Ahh, acanthus, the bane of my life

[brittle granite]

lol

why is that?

[orchid glade]

pure evil!!

They are soo invasive and hard to get rid of

[brittle granite]

ah that makes sense XD

[orchid glade]

I mean they are pretty, but also the flower stalks are annoyingly spiky

[brave fable]

convolvulus the bane of my life. if i ever see someone add their favourite ❤️ cute morning glory plants!! ❤️ mod i am going to explode

[brittle granite]

when I was looking through pictures they looked really spiky, I like the deep purple though

[ocean sail]

@brittle granite You leveled up to Cowpoke. You can now speak in our voice channels and share images in all channels!

[orchid glade]

hehe

[brittle granite]

I made a spreadsheet with like 460 flowers I would like to eventually add

[vernal crest]

Go to file: "%appdata%\Roaming\VSCodium\User\settings.json" (or "%appdata%\Roaming\VSCode\User\settings.json" if you're using VS Code probably - poke around in AppData/Roaming if that doesn't work). Then replace

"json.schemas": [
    ]

with

"json.schemas": [{
        "fileMatch": ["*.json", "*.jsonc"],
        "schema": {
            "allowTrailingCommas": true
        }
    }
    ]

I take no responsibility for any explosions, melting, rains of frogs, or other disasters that may arise from taking my advice.

[orchid glade]

We are giving up on nice varied wildflowers, and letting the acanthus take over again, sigh

[orchid glade]

up until this moment, I thought you were a good role model 😛

[vernal crest]

The likelihood of explosions is very small!

I am glad I found that. Now if only I could think of a way to stop it complaining about my multi-lining.

[orchid glade]

can't fault you for that one

[vernal crest]

I just manually switch to JSONL when I'm working on my events file at the moment. It's a bit annoying but better than nothing.

[calm nebula]

Iirc from what pathos has said you can totally include a .jsonl

[brittle granite]

I just did that, and it says I now have zero errors which is great, thank you Abagainye!

[calm nebula]

So you can just make your event jsons jsonl

[vernal crest]

Ooh thanks Atra I'm going to try that.

[orchid glade]

If you're using JSONL or JSONC in vscode, does it still save as .json or is it a different file extension?

[brave fable]

if you're using a jsonl or jsonc file association for .json files, then yes, it'll save as json but treat it in the editor as if it were jsonc/l

but if SMAPI will happily load jsonc/jsonl itself then you can do either

[orchid glade]

cool

[vernal crest]

SMAPI says no jsonl or jsonc :(

[calm nebula]

Awww

Okay, this is easy enough

@ivory plume if you're amenable, being able to have different levels of ide-angry-at- you may be useful

Any chance of .jsonc/.jsonl?

[crude plank]

"This is easy enough" just ask Pathos to allow it

[calm nebula]

Exactly!

(It's a two line code change but I'm asking Pathos if he agrees with the idea first mostly because I'm about 80% out the door on the way to work)

[crude plank]

I got it, hope you have a good day at work

[calm nebula]

Wooot allergy season has begun....

[lucid comet]

not sure if this belongs here or over on the art side but .... well, the background is no longer red, the new buttons are there and nothing broke

i did not expect to get this far

[primal cove]

If anyone wants an idea for a mod I have one, a mod where you can get a farm expansion to build a farmers market, once you have unlocked the extra plot of land robin will offer little stands and maybe some other things that you can only place on your extra plot and then you can set prices for all the crops or whatever you put in your stand or you could set trades so like 1 pumpkin for 1 energy tonic or something and once you have a spouse you can ask them to help out with the farmers market and the market and all the buildings in it would be pretty customizable. I don't need any credit if anyone wants to make it and Idk if anyone has already made this but yeah

Also any villagers can come and buy stuff from you

[calm nebula]

!modideas

[ocean sail]

If you have a mod idea that you aren't planning to make yourself, you can put it in the mod ideas github: https://github.com/StardewModders/mod-ideas

However, this does not mean anyone is guaranteed to work on your idea—modders who are looking for ideas sometimes go through and work on what they find interesting off this list. If you want to pay someone to make your mod idea, there are a few people who do commissions (mostly art, sometimes code); you can ask around, search usernames for the word comms, or see !commissions.

To use this command, type !modideas.

[lucid iron]

I'm pretty sure this has been implemented 3 times now

[tough crater]

I forget, where does SMAPI look for tilesheet files (from CP mods)? It's data/tilesheets or just tilesheets, right?

I remember it being mentioned that maps and tilesheets should be separated

[lucid iron]

Once you load the tilesheet it no longer matters

[tough crater]

RIGHT, we manually load them in 😅

[lucid iron]

If you don't load the the tilesheet then it'll try to find em relative to the tmx

[tough crater]

So it's better practice to load tilesheets manually, got it.

I'd be targeting Tilesheets from the game, right?

[lucid iron]

No, target something like Maps/modid/yoursheet

[vernal crest]

You can put them in whatever asset name you want. Usual practice is to put them in Maps.

"In"

[tiny zealot]

aba casting the ward to keep Button away, i see /lh

[vernal crest]

My map tilesheet targets are "Maps/{{ModID}}_National_Park" and so on

[tough crater]

Aren't tilesheets located elsewhere in the official game files tho?

Or is it different for CP mods

Wait, you meant you could put them literally anywhere

[vernal crest]

Map tilesheets are in Maps in the game content folder

[lucid iron]

What tilesheet are you trying to use?

[tough crater]

My own

[vernal crest]

Hm

[lucid iron]

Yeah just Load it to right place then

This part is same for CP and C#

[vernal crest]

Tilesheets need to have an asset name beginning with Maps/ or the game can't find them for use in the maps (is that the right way to say it chu)

[lucid iron]

Yea that is a req atm

[[modding:maps]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps

[tough crater]

So all tilesheets need to get loaded into Maps/?

[lucid iron]

Yeah

You may need to adjust your map if you already made it

[tough crater]

Oh, did the vanilla or SVE maps change recently?

[lucid iron]

No that's not what i mean

[vernal crest]

Yup. And you can only use vanilla ones that are there too unless you use the mod Arbitrary Tilesheet Access (which copies sheets from other locations into maps - kind of, it's not actually putting them anywhere because it's not moving physical files).

[lucid comet]

.... i found the colorful stripes for calico spin

this is fine. not like i wanted to just flip some colors or something

[lucid iron]

You need to make sure the image source in the map tileset matches your load target

[wise oar]

Hello everyone!

i need help with my mod

i'm making a proximity voice chat into the game

but, it seems to work, but the other players don't hear anything.

[wise oar]

for some strange reason XD

[vernal crest]

You asked in here before and Iro asked if it was on discord but you never replied

[wise oar]

Ah, I didn't know it was towards me.

And in fact, I forgot to ask here XD

But did you mean if the mod code was on discord or what?

[vernal crest]

I am not Iro, so I don't know lol

I assume they meant are you trying to do it through discord?

[analog notch]

hiii, anyone knows about adding new tv channels?

[tribal ore]

Translation question for you Nexus vets: I like how the translation shows up automatically when someone publishes a translation mod, but is there a way to make this section show translations that are contained within the mod itself?

[tribal ore]

I don't know if you can add a new one. I see that the existing TV channels are stored under Data/TV and each has its own .json

But I suspect that adding a whole new one would require more than just adding the json and trying to patch it in

[devout otter]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/29541

This adds a new TV channel and seems completely in content patcher so you can take a look if you want.

[wise oar]

Aaaah, in the case of Discord, I already did it, the mod is already public, but in this new one I am trying to make it "real" so that it does not depend on another application.

[vernal crest]

Ah I see. Well, you're probably an hour or so too early for the C# modders to start hanging out in here yet but they should be along soon.

[wise oar]

Well, we'll have to wait.

[rigid musk]

I think just tags

[pine elbow]

Do you have code somewhere to have a look at? I don't really know the stardew api that well yet but i know my way around c#. Maybe i can help as another set of eyes?

[wise oar]

I can publish it right now on Github

[pine elbow]

Also does anyone know if there is a sprite sheet out there for the Governor that has him walking around?

[pine elbow]

cool send me a link and ill take a look

[lucid iron]

The governor never walks

I don't think he has walking sprites

[lucid comet]

only the forward walking in the default luao afaik

[wise oar]

https://github.com/Greem3/PVC-StardewValleyMod

[pine elbow]

there isn't but i was hoping maybe some else had made one up for a mod or something

[lucid comet]

the top row iirc

[wise oar]

@pine elbow The only thing is that right now I don't have it documented XD

[ivory plume]

Sure, I'll add that in the next update. (Unfortunately you just missed the 4.2 release, so it may be a while.)

[ivory plume]

Can you give an example of what you mean?

[calm nebula]

The specific use case I was thinking of was using jsonl for event jsons only for the multiline strings!

[tawny ore]

According to this website, YAML is a superset of JSON, so can that be added too? /s
https://www.json2yml.com/#/json

[lucid iron]

We have a mod for that

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/27472

[tawny ore]

I think it's funny that "yaml is a superset of json" is a thing because shouldn't that mean valid json is also valid yaml, or am I misunderstanding the meaning of the word superset?

[gentle rose]

no, that's what it should imply imo

[analog notch]

tysm!!

[gentle rose]

using the mathematical definition

(as in, I agree with you, superset implies all json is valid yaml)

I guess a more accurate term for what I assume it's supposed to mean is that "yaml's feature set is a superset of json's feature set?"

[tawny ore]

Copilot has some thoughts about that, not sure I agree

[gentle rose]

copilot once tried to gaslight me into believing in a made up grammatical rule

[tawny ore]

Yeah, Copilot is probably the worse LLM, but it's the one that's most readily available to me thanks to W11

[gentle rose]

oh wait, no, it was chatgpt but I hate them all equally

I also don't get why microsoft chose to make a new copilot AI when their github AI has been called that for so long tbh

[tawny ore]

And why they didn't just stick with Cortana

[gentle rose]

"you can use valid JSON syntax directly within a YAML document, and it will be interpreted correctly"

you know what? let's find out

[gentle rose]

I assume public perception was so bad it was better to absorb the cost of advertising a new one than to try to revive cortana's reputation ngl lmao

[hard fern]

I guess so

but then why did they make copilot so bad

[gentle rose]

huh. @tawny ore I was wrong - JSON syntax is, literally, valid YAML. In fact, copilot seems to be wrong in the other direction - JSON within YAML does not need to be indented according to YAML rules

[tawny ore]

wtf

[gentle rose]

I'm so with you

but it's been a strict superset of json since 2009 apparently

and already contained most json syntax before they ever even heard about json???

[tawny ore]

Mind is blown

[hard fern]

How.... copilot you confuse me

[gray bear]

yaml just sounds wrong

[gentle rose]

I refused to believe either the online parsers or wikipedia and went to the actual official YAML spec, and yup, strict superset. My mind is blown too.

also this spec is way more advanced/detailed than I thought, huh

[tawny ore]

So then what does that make toml

Toml is like what yaml could be if it didn't care about json

[gentle rose]

toml is like if ini files had a formal spec from what I can tell

it doesn't seem to use - so I don't think it's a subset of yaml

[tawny ore]

toml claims to prioritize human readibility, but toml/yaml/json all are written for human readibility

Toml has more strict data structures than yaml

[gentle rose]

ig by reducing symbol-based syntax? so it is more "naturally" readable? though once you get used to code, having those symbols actually makes things way more readable imo

[blissful panther]

My brain likes help with reading things sometimes, damn it.

[tawny ore]

I mean, machines DGAF about the readability of serialized data structures. sqlite or other binary formats are what I'd consider to be the non-human readible alternative.

[gentle rose]

yeah, I guess they mean that other human-readable languages haven't prioritised humans enough (in favour of being able to explicitly describe more complex concepts)

[tiny zealot]

human-readable data format scorecard (#programmers-off-topic, anyone?)

• json: okay
• toml: sure
• yaml: -100 points for starting with "yet another"
• xml: jail! jail for mother for 1000 years!

[gentle rose]

C and python are both technically human-readable but you need a lot less programming knowledge to be able to read python than C (as long as the person writing the code isn't too far gone into the Zen of Python, in which case it's a lost cause)

[tiny zealot]

if the author has drunk the python sauce, then abandon all hope and cast your computer into the ocean

[faint ingot]

Is there a way to give my custom tree a 'friendly' name for mods like UI info suite / Lookup Anything? I don't see a name field in Data/WildTrees

[brittle pasture]

there is indeed no name field
that means UI Info Suite has to hardcode all the names

[lucid iron]

FNAF should be a fish mod

[brittle pasture]

apparently the next version of UIIS2 may add something for modders to supply the display name on their side

[faint ingot]

OK good to know

[lucid iron]

FNAF Not A Fish

[gray bear]

wouldn't that be naf

[lucid iron]

FNAF's Not A Fish

There

[hard fern]

What does f in fnaf

Or is it just fnaf again

[gray bear]

freddy

no,,, it's five

[hard fern]

Freddy...

[faint ingot]

I think they turned out suitably creepy with no leaves on in winter although they're a bit washed out against the snow on the ground

[gray bear]

i,,, cannot focus on that image

hurt

[faint ingot]

there's also a fog effect

[lucid iron]

Yeah uh i probably made the color too white in my example

[tribal ore]

Won't tagging a mod with "Translation Files" mean that it gets set as a translation mod though? I know that a lot of users auto-filter Nexus to exclude those from results

[faint ingot]

it's not the final version though I'll tweak it some

[gray bear]

the trees look fine the snow just flashbangs me

[rigid musk]

Not translation files but with a language name.. it might exclude it? I'm not sure

[tribal ore]

Alright. Looks like I'll have to experiment and see. I would love for the included translations to just... show up nicely with their icons

[vivid basin]

Does anybody know if there is a mod that recolors default farm buildings to common palettes?

I'm using Starblue, but the buildings stay in default palette, unless I install building mod with recolor support like Elle's

[lucid comet]

i think you'll have better luck over in #modded-stardew

this channel if for mod creation (and all the challenges that come with that)

[vivid basin]

I'll head there in a sec, but I also have a question, because I've tried to recolor the missing sprites myself and I was wondering if there is some easy way to that

[gentle rose]

Fish Nights At Freddy's. It adds an NPC called Freddy who runs a fish restaurant.

[gray bear]

feesh u say?

[vivid basin]

Is there an editor that can convert image according to chosen pallete?

[hard fern]

I hope the fish dont get a little quirky at night

[calm nebula]

Anyways: mod idea: cat uses cat tree

[tiny zealot]

gimp can sort of do this, but in my experience it's hit or miss, and dealing with palettes in gimp is a recipe for frustration.
i assume aseprite would do a better job since it's made for that sort of thing, but i'm inexperienced with it so i can't give any guidance

[lucid iron]

Lina has a specialized recolor tool

But it's more for bulk usage once you have the palettes

[vivid basin]

Tried Aseprite, but failed at figuring it out unfortunately

[fast shore]

Alright, I've tried to add an extra upgrade to the axe, but it doesn't fully work.
Everything, except for the UpgradeFrom seems to work. The name and description are correct, the sprite (which is just the steel axe as a placeholder) is correct and the ConventionalUpgradeFrom seems to work too.
Can someone please explain why the UpgradeFrom doesn't work? I don't have any errors.
code: https://sourceb.in/lSzS1IDLdH

[blissful panther]

It probably wants the fully qualified form? So "UpgradeFrom": "(T)IridiumAxe", maybe?

[calm nebula]

I believe if you have conventional upgrade from set you can't use upgrade from

[fast shore]

oooh

that might be possible

yeah

that seems very logical, sometimes it's just those small things that I can't sniff out on my own

[calm nebula]

Another thing is that you really should be using the asset requested events

Instead of editing tool data directly

[rancid musk]

Well this is silly. From Game1.stats.checkForCraftingAchievements() cs foreach (string s in recipes.Keys) { if (!(s == "Wedding Ring") && Game1.player.craftingRecipes.TryGetValue(s, out var timesCrafted)) { numberOfItemsCrafted += timesCrafted; if (Game1.player.craftingRecipes[s] > 0) { numberOfRecipesMade++; } } }

Let's just perform an extra dictionary lookup when we literally just got the value.

[fast shore]

i didn't know those exist

but it seems to work now

the only problem is that the item id (0)896 seems to be wrong

it says Error item

[rancid musk]

If you're not using asset events, then it doesn't actually work it just accidentially worked in a very specific set of circumstances.

As soon as someone does something to cause an asset to reload, if you're not using asset events then your stuff is just broken.

[tiny zealot]

it looks to me like you'll get another copy each morning, too, running in DayStarted with no guards

[calm nebula]

(The smapi docs are really not that long)

(There aren't actually that many events)

[calm nebula]

(O) the letter, not a number

It's short for "object"

[faint ingot]

can you define CP dynamic tokens inside an include file?

[lucid iron]

No

[fast shore]

Oooooh

[fast shore]

It was just for figuring things out, I intended on trying to add it every time the game loads, but I'll look at all the events

[craggy cape]

trying to replace the butterfly hut texture, im just confused on how to code it though since the sprite on the 16x16 grid is bigger than what im familiar with 😭

[brittle pasture]

instead of replacing a 16x16 texture, replace 48x32 or whatevs the size is

[craggy cape]

ight

ugh i cant find the correct grid placement

[valid folio]

Hi, how is everyone? I don't quite understand this error, does anyone here get it? I'm the one who did the translation, but I don't understand what the problem is.

If I delete everything and put the original code back, I don't get that error.

[craggy cape]

48x32 grid looks like this

[lucid iron]

It's 32x48 then

In editimage you can give exactly from area and to area

[craggy cape]

even if the grid in tiled looks like this?

[brittle pasture]

perhaps it's time you think outside the grid

[lucid iron]

Why are you in tiled

[craggy cape]

so i can get the exact area numbers to replace the furniture...

[lucid iron]

Is this supposed to go on a map

Anyways the to area stuff let u put x y width height

There's no tile grid constraint

[craggy cape]

i used tiled to get the numbers, thats how i did it with the goldfish retexture

those were 16x16 sprites tho

[lucid iron]

Please use something like gimp

[craggy cape]

man i remember downloading gimp and my computer not letting it install lmfao, that was years ago though. im downloading it again rn

smth to do with the storage iirc for it not being able to install

[ornate trellis]

the furniture fit inot the 16x16 grid, that wouldve been much easier for you to find the right x y

[stark spindle]

Hey all, I made a new sprite sheet for a preexisting character and I want to used it for 1 scene in an event. Can I just add to that character or is it the equivalent of making a new character?

[acoustic summit]

If its a sprite sheet I'd add the sprite sheet and then add it as a temporary actor in the event. If you need them to talk you can still spawn the real character out of frame and have them talk. You mentioned its only for 1 scene in the event, so if you need the basic one back you can just use warp to switch the character and the temp actor when needed.

That's how I'd do it anyhow 🙂

[uncut viper]

did you accidentally translate something you shouldn't have? like a dynamic token, for instance

[stark spindle]

Great thanks!

[hallow prism]

note that this will not be compatible with mods changing the character appearance

they can add compat later if they are interested

but this may be worth mentioning

[tidal stone]

if i erase something off the tilesheet will it just be deleted or will it be ignored by whatever im recoloring so i can replace it with something else 🤔 iuf not ill suffer through all the patches 😔 i was just curious

[valid folio]

That's what I thought, but I don't see anything wrong. I'm really confused.

[candid stratus]

So I've been looking into data-storage. I have "levels" that you can play. They're 1-day levels so it will never have to be saved. Is it best to just initialise a data class and initialise/store it in the modentry or do y'all reckon that's bad

I could also just make a static class I suppose

[gentle rose]

if you never need to actually save them, then I don't see why it's terrible ig?

[candid stratus]

I don't think it'll ever be terrible cause it's barely any data anyway, but maybe you guys have a usual way of doing this

[rigid oriole]

Do you need it to persist between saves?

[candid stratus]

nop

[rigid oriole]

Can store it in player moddata

[uncut viper]

if its just temporary and not serialized anyway i usually dont really care and just do whats easiest
if i do need to store something for next time/next play session i chuck that info in mod data and read it on initialization

[candid stratus]

All levels are within 1 day and have to be reset every time it's started so it's all not persistent anyway

[uncut viper]

but if everything in the level can be created on the fly then id treat it the same way i treat custom menus

[candid stratus]

The only thing I have to save is whether it's completed, which I'll just store in the savedata

[uncut viper]

which is just a class that gets initialized

[valid folio]

A direct translation doesn't throw an error, I think I know where I made the mistake.

[uncut viper]

you should only be translating things in the i18n files

[raven mirage]

Hello. I'm trying to do a farm map, with CP i did fish areas with fishes that work just fine, but dump question - there is an extra cave on this farm (new location) with a little pond, is there a way to do it as a fish area too? I've tried to add the location name at "TargetField" - didn`t work, i did it wrong or it simply impossible to do?

[cedar turtle]

Is there any specific version I should add when doing a CP/AT mod?

As "MinimumVersion" I mean

[calm nebula]

No

In general you can ignore that as a content pack

[uncut viper]

not unless your mod specifically requires a feature only available in the latest versions, b ut usually you dont need to bother

assuming you mean the dependencies

[calm nebula]

I go the other way on that on c# mods btw

Where i fill in the version of smapi and the game i compile against

[cedar turtle]

I see, I see.

[uncut viper]

different from MinimumVersion though, MinimumVersion is just for the dependencies

[cedar turtle]

So I can just remove that line entirely? Or leave it empty?

[uncut viper]

you can probably remove it, the only significant change i can remember in CP recently is localtokens

if you're gonna use localtokens you should specify imo

idk anything about AT though

[cedar turtle]

not really no.

Just scarecrow textures

[uncut viper]

yeah you can just ignore it then

unless you're worried about people using like, Content Patcher v1.1.0 or smth

[rancid musk]

Meanwhile in messing around with Better Crafting...

[lucid iron]

You shop menu it...

[rancid musk]

This is a custom crafting station with a new DisplayAsShop value set to true

[rigid musk]

that's why I specify the latest version for mine, cause I don't want to deal with someone somehow having an older version and then coming to me complaining it doesn't work

[uncut viper]

well unless you're using new features or bug fixes, an older version will either work fine, or Content Patcher itself wont even load bc its incompatible wiht 1.6/1.6.9+

so they wouldnt be coming to you either way

[rigid musk]

It generally makes it easier for me to be able to use newer features if I need/want to without worrying about someone having an 'older' version if I decide to

[lucid iron]

For content patcher specifically the Format field serves this purpose already

[uncut viper]

and if you're updating the format bc you need smth in the latest version, then you can always add the minimumversion when that happens

[rigid musk]

I swear I learn something new every time I'm in this channel

Now that I think about it I think that is the number I change I can't remember if I have a 'minimum version' for CP or not

[uncut viper]

i think to a point it is probably technically better to not specify a minimumversion if you dont actually need it, bc there are some situations where the latest version might actually be incompatible with another users system

so you'd then be locking them out of your mod for no good reason

i went to go see if it mightve happened before, and CP 2.4.1 "fixed the previous update being broken on Linux/macOS"
so if you'd set the minimum version to 2.4.0, but you really didnt need it and could get away with anything 2.0.0+, then Linux/macOS users would be SOL for your mod

(2.4.1 came out very very shortly after 2.4.0 anyway, but the point remains)

[cedar turtle]

meanwhile the pros do their pro thing
Looking forwards to it!

I think you ony really need minimumAPI?
Or is even that optional

[uncut viper]

you dont need it

[grim urchin]

Hi! a little nervous as I am brand new to making a mod and I am not quite sure where to start as all of the video guides are outdated for 1.6 and I want to make a small village with a few NPCs in it and the stardew wiki is a bit confusing and I am not sure if I should be using C# or just content patcher. I am sorry in advance and thank you for any help

[uncut viper]

im pretty sure the only actual required things in a manifest.json are UniqueID and Name

and EntryDLL/ContentPackFor

i remember testing at one point how little i could get away with and the answer was surprisingly little

[cedar turtle]

I see. I see.

[grim urchin]

I understand what a manifest.json is and what goes into that file but I am not sure what an entry DLL is and what goes into that

[calm nebula]

Start with cp

[cedar turtle]

I have no idea what that is either

(which is why I stick to retextures for now)

[gaunt orbit]

EntryDll is only for c# mods. If you don't want to use c#, don't put it in. Only do ContentPackFor, and set it to the id of the framework your content pack is for

Whether or not you'll need c#, and what framework(s) you end up using will be determined by what kind of mod you're trying to make

[grim urchin]

I have a few NPC ideas and I want to make a small map for them to live in

[gaunt orbit]

In the case of a small expansion, you should be able to do everything with just Content Patcher

[grim urchin]

I already have a friend that is going to do the art for the portraits for me but it would be an entirely seperate map because I don't want it to have compat issues with other major expansion mods

I don't mind learning how to use C#, I just wanted to know which direction I should be focusing my research on

[fast shore]

Alright, I'm currently working on a mod that adds a fishing rod with multiple bait slots and I've been looking at the code and think that the only possibility to fully achieve this is by actually slightly editing the code of the game. Is this a moment that I should start using Harmonize? Are there any better or safer alternatives out there?
Maybe I'm completely wrong on thinking that I should edit the game's code, pls correct me if I'm wrong at anytime 🙂

Harmony* not Harmonize

[gaunt orbit]

Use Content Patcher

C# also works but content patcher will be easier and more future-proof

[grim urchin]

Alright

Thank you

[gaunt orbit]

You may also find this useful
[[Modding:Index]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Index

[grim urchin]

I'm sorry if any of these questions seem really noobish, I have alot of ideas in my brain and wanted to take a crack at the process but I was like where do I start?

[gaunt orbit]

No worries! That's what the channel is for

[valid folio]

I did the i18n for that mod, and those are the only entries it's not recognizing. I've done i18n for many mods, and I've never encountered an error like this before, which is why I'm really confused.

[calm nebula]

You will need harmony

It won't be fun

#making-mods-general message

[fast shore]

maybe it will be fun 🙂

but figuring out how to use Harmony might be a bit of a pain

[grim urchin]

Okay so I make the manifest.json, the assets folder, i'm assuming a characters folder that includes all the sprite art and portrait art and their dialogue?

[gaunt orbit]

It's pretty straightforward until you get into transpilers, though from the sound of it, you will need transpilers

[gaunt orbit]

The main requirements are a manifest.json and a content.json. Everything else can be organized however you want.

[grim urchin]

Alright, and when would things like tilesheets come into play? I notice some mods use things like lumisteria tile sheets and things like that

[gaunt orbit]

Content patcher has its own docs, which are linked on the mod page. I recommend having a look through those

[grim urchin]

Alright, sorry I know this is alot of questions

[gaunt orbit]

Tilesheets provided by other mods are just There when you load your map into the game. For editing purposes, you'll want a copy of the pngs, but do NOT put them in your own mod folder.

If you want to add your own custom tilesheet(s), you'll need to do Load patches to provide them to the game

[grim urchin]

Okay thank you

[gaunt orbit]

The way people usually do map editing is to have a separate "workspace" folder where they edit the maps, and then copy the map files into their mod folder

Mostly because it lets you have access to tilesheets while editing, but makes sure you don't distribute other people's art with your mod

[grim urchin]

So would I be able to use something like Tiled to make the map? I saw that the modder for DTZ used that in their video but that video was a few years old so I wasn't sure if 1.6 would bomb it to the ground or not

[gaunt orbit]

Yes, use Tiled

[fast shore]

oooh, I understand it now, I didn't know the word transpile (not a native English speaker). You didn't mean the in-game location, but changing every piece of code that 'touches' bait.
Yeah, I guess that that's the path I've taken

[gaunt orbit]

!unpack if you haven't already

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[fast shore]

Are there more big mod sites apart from Nexus? Cause I'm shocked at the low quantity of unique mods

[gaunt orbit]

It's not an English word either, it's harmony-specific jargon

[fast shore]

(maybe I just suck at searching for them tho)

[gaunt orbit]

Naver

Moddrop to an extent, though it's not as popular as it used to be

[grim urchin]

doesn't github have some stuff too?

[gaunt orbit]

Github has a lot of stuff but it's not really a distribution platform

[grim urchin]

Ah okay okay

[gaunt orbit]

Github mainly hosts code, and sometimes people will also upload releases alongside that, but mostly as a mirror to nexus since github is not browsable

[grim urchin]

Ah okay that makes sense

[fast shore]

it seems to be an awful amount of files

[grim urchin]

Would you mind clarifying what you mean by this

[gaunt orbit]

Tiled needs pngs so you can see what a map looks like while you're making it. Those pngs also need to be on the same folder as the map file.

You don't want to include tilesheets from the base game or other mods when you upload your mod, though. It can break recolors, bloat file sizes, and may count as art theft / mod piracy depending on the author's permissions or license.

So, to have the pngs while editing the maps, but NOT in your mod zip, the easiest way is to just have separate folders and copy just the map files.

[candid stratus]

So I've made an animation in Tiled but I have to make sure that the animation actually starts when you get there. Is there any way of doing this or did I waste my time

Is it based on system time?

[gaunt orbit]

Animations in maps run all the time in infinite loops. There's no way to control them. What you want are Temporary Animated Sprites, which can be created in events with event commands, or added as machine effects, but otherwise require c#

[brittle ledge]

There are about 21,000 Stardew mods on Nexus, was there something in particular you think is missing?

[grim urchin]

okay so if I am understanding correctly, you're saying to download the PNGs for my own purposes to map things in Tiled HOWEVER to have a seperate folder with map files I made in Tiled that tell CP to load them in? I just want to make sure I don't pirate or use other peoples art or anything when it's not mine

[gaunt orbit]

Correct

[grim urchin]

Hey tiakall! fancy seeing you here!

[fast shore]

fair point

I've looked at things like more tools, but there are none

maybe cuz the game doesn't need them

that'd defo explain it

[tender bloom]

Nope its cause its super annoying

Well, there are some mods

Such as Dwarvish Mattock

[gaunt orbit]

Tools are very new still

[tender bloom]

I’m not sure it still works

Shovel mod (broken p sure, maybe updated)

[gaunt orbit]

Custom tools in 1.5 was basically not a thing

[tender bloom]

Shovel!

But it took the brilliance and tenacity of Atra to get that one done 😛

[fast shore]

Ooooh

[gaunt orbit]

AT as well

[tender bloom]

Ah yes, that one was moddata on a milk pail right?

[gaunt orbit]

A lot of custom content that is possible now was either very difficult or literally impossible in 1.5, so it's taking time for people to really start digging into everything that's available now

[calm nebula]

(Custom tools were perfectly possible on 1.5.6)

[fast shore]

I'm relatively new to the game, only played a little bit before 1.6, let alone modding

[grim urchin]

I believe it was tiakall that told me it was VERY hard to break stuff in 1.6 and very easy to mod 1.6

[calm nebula]

(Shhhhhh)

[tender bloom]

Farmer animations when using a tool are a HUGE pain

Farmer animations are cursed

[fast shore]

I'm very scared of everything that has to do with art

[brittle pasture]

you want new tools may I add a humble suggestion
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/27071

[calm nebula]

Farmer animations with a tool are still cursed btw

[gaunt orbit]

For example, there are currently no mods that add a new builder (like robin or rasmodious) but it would only require a small amount of c# to do so

[grim urchin]

I have been playing stardew for YEARS and learned maybe 3 years ago you could mod it

[calm nebula]

But it doesn't matter if you don't do custom animations

[brittle pasture]

(I hope to change this eventually )

[calm nebula]

Anyways

The other question is more....what can you do that is interesting with a new tool

[fast shore]

yeah, the only reason that I was interested in it was to look at the code 😂

but turns out all of those things use Harmony

[gaunt orbit]

You can use spacecore now

Just do a subclass and add it to tool data

[grim urchin]

So how do you know if your mod would need something like spacecore or mod plugins or things of that nature

[brittle pasture]

if you need a feature from one of them

[fast shore]

You can't edit existing tools with spacecore right? Only add new things

[calm nebula]

(I've made jokes about aluminum tools, or breakable tools, etc)

[gaunt orbit]

Depends on what you're editing

[calm nebula]

Again, getting the stupid shovel into the game was the easy part

Getting shovel behavior to feel right was the hard part

[gaunt orbit]

If it's in tool data, you can edit it with cp. Changing mechanics needs harmony

[gaunt orbit]

My main experience with custom tools was prismatic / radioactive tools, which maybe wasn't the best benchmark

[fast shore]

and when would spacecore be useful?

[tender bloom]

Ornithologist guild has this

Breakable glasses

[brittle pasture]

Not anything directly related to custom tools (1.6 supports that now), but if you're using a custom class for your tool SpaceCore allows you to serialize that class to the save safely via its serializer features

if you can do your tool functions purely via harmony patches to the generic tool classes (instead of a subclass) SC isn't necessary

[fast shore]

so it's mostly for classes that extend native SV classes?

[brittle pasture]

yes

[fast shore]

and for entirely new classes?

[brittle pasture]

that too
but if you want a custom tool you'd need to subclass GenericTool

[fast shore]

I understand, I'm just trying to get the grasp of things in general

[calm nebula]

(The important part is that you need to handle serialization if your class can possibly hit the serializer)

(Spacecore will handle it for you)

If your class will not hit the serializer (ex menus, critters) you can avoid it

[fast shore]

How would you add a new class to the game?

[uncut viper]

theres also the option of the snorlax method where if you can you can subclass/make a new class of something and just replace it with something ordinary right before saving, and then replace it again with your modded tool when the save loads

[fast shore]

with just plain SMAPI

no CP, Harmony or spacecore

[brittle pasture]

!startmodding follow the C# guide

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[fast shore]

or isn't that possible?

[uncut viper]

well thats just C# then

[fast shore]

but how would it be applied to the game?

oooh

[calm nebula]

(This is one reason why I say unity experience does not translate)

[fast shore]

you can access like every property in the game files

[uncut viper]

you dont add a random class "to" anything

you just make a class

its in your mod

do whatever you want

[fast shore]

I have more coding experience than just that

I'm just very new to modding

[candid stratus]

Machine effects? Also how would it work in C#?

[lucid iron]

I have some example spaget for that

https://github.com/Mushymato/MiscMapActionsProperties/blob/main/MiscMapActionsProperties/Framework/Wheels/TAS.cs#L74

This is creating a tas

[ivory plume]

It depends what you mean by that:

• Your entire mod (including all classes you define) get loaded into the game's assembly context, so they can interact directly with the game. So if you just want to run code in-game, you don't need to do anything special.
• However adding custom class instances to the world (e.g. a custom item subclass) is tricky, because the save serializer only allows whitelisted types. There's ways to do it (e.g. using SpaceCore), but usually it's better to run code in-game without adding custom types to the actual world.

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/Mushymato/MiscMapActionsProperties/blob/main/MiscMapActionsProperties/Framework/Tile/TASSpot.cs#L61
This is adding

And this framework feature was the thing i attempted to convince u into using the other day

[candid stratus]

yeah I figured I'd just try the easy option first

clearly without thinking about the timing aspect of it..

[lucid iron]

What is the exact kind of timing you wanted here?

Atm i only made "start when player enters the location"

[candid stratus]

Well you're reading notes in an underground tunnel system you're trapped in about someone in the same shoes that was slowly going insane, and as soon as you're done reading the notes, the room starts shaking tv-static wise becoming stronger as the kid from the notes shows up through the floor

[lucid iron]

A trigger action then i can do that

Will give u a test build in a few hrs

But another option is to make event script

Spacecore has an option to launch a event with trigger action, then you can do the event flavor of temporary animated sprite

[grim urchin]

Okay I dunno what I am doing wrong, I unzipped the xnbhack thing into my stardew valley folder and it keeps giving me an "Oops!" message

[candid stratus]

you dont have to put in too much effort for me, I'm just not making a lot of progress as I only have like 1-2 hours a day to work on this and it can be a bit much

[lucid iron]

Well i made the general "put tas on map" feature already, having it accessible via a trigger is logical next step

I wonder if this is a dynamic map tiles feature too

Trigger actions r a new 1.6 thing tho perhaps not

[calm nebula]

So when can I talk one of you guys into taking over Shovel

(You're free to but honestly ||the mod isn't that good anyways||)

[lucid iron]

My personal rule is i never touch farmer renderer ever bye

[hallow prism]

(well it's a concept some players still want so this is subjective)

[uncut viper]

i think chu just meant they dont want to have to deal with the mess that is farmer renderer

bc it is a mess

[hallow prism]

i meant about atra spoiler

to clarify

[uncut viper]

ahh

ill be honest, i still dont know what shovel even did

i just hear atra mention it from time to time

[hallow prism]

but indeed i should use discord reply feature more

you could obtain giant crops to move them around and i believe some other similar stuff

[calm nebula]

The point of the mod was to turn a bunch of things (giant crops, resource clumps, etc) into decorative items

[sour sleet]

If I wish to have a special requests board in my custom town, can I do that with CP?

[calm nebula]

Try emp

[hallow prism]

yes

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/9296

(in case you don't know what EMP stands for)

[sour sleet]

Ooo I will look into that, thanks

[grim urchin]

PROGRESS, I have unpacked the content

[vivid cove]

Any audio folk floating around? 😄

[rancid musk]

This is live now, in Better Crafting version 2.18.0. Want to make a custom shop in a slightly different way than the vanilla shop system? Make a custom crafting station, and flag it to display as a shop. It's the same Better Crafting menu under the surface, with the same recipe and data recipe support, mod integrations, support for drawing items from remote chests, and other such features. But now it looks like a shop. When in shop mode, it also prevents the "times crafted" values from incrementing and crafting related quests from updating (though those are both configurable).

[lucid iron]

Shard thingy

So can you spawn this with tile action then

[hard fern]

i got randomly in the mood to make custom music for my mod so i cranked out a half finished piece of sheet music and now im going to (??) imagine dialogue in my head. Modding is complicated

[rancid musk]

Yeah, a trigger or tile action can open the menu to your custom crafting station, and it'll just happen to look more like a shop and behave a little differently.

[vivid cove]

I read that as "Imagine Dragons", now im expecting a dan reynolds cameo

[rough lintel]

hm. is it possible to make... a letter event where the player can respond to the letter as if theyre replying to a quickquestion?

[lucid iron]

not with normal things but it might be mail framework mod feature?

if that has a on letter close trigger

[calm nebula]

I thought mfm had a player response feature

[little anvil]

Hey! If I’m to add new mail in the game, can I just add new mail with the code, or do I have to edit the actual mail file in the game and add it to my own file ? I’m so sorry if my wording is confusing but idk how to explain it. Is it also possible to add new mail letters with Content Patcher ?

[lucid iron]

yea new in 1.18.0 looks like

"ReplyConfig": { // If you want the player to send a reply after reading the letter. It will show the reply options that will add one or more "ReceivedMail" based on the player answer. Any additional logic related to the reply needs to be implemented based on the ReceivedMail added.

[lucid iron]

you need a new entry in Data/mail yes

[little anvil]

So like, I don’t have to recopy the whole thing right ?

I can just make my file with just the new entries

Or is that not it

[lucid iron]

are you in content patcher or C#?

[little anvil]

Content patcher

For this

[lucid iron]

you do an editdata targeting Data/mail to add your mail

and then you need to send the mail with a trigger action or similar

[little anvil]

Can I send an image to explain what I meant ? If that’s okay

Cuz my words are not wording today

[lucid iron]

i feel like understood what you meant

you want to

1. add a custom mail
2. send it to the player at some point

both of these things can be done by content patcher yep

[little anvil]

Yes, but that’s not what I meant

I was asking another question relating to that lol

[lucid iron]

i mean this when i said editdata btw https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editdata.md

do not Load over Data/mail, thats very bad

[little anvil]

Tysm omg

I feel so stupid

[lucid iron]

you dont have to ping me when im still here

[little anvil]

I’m sorry

But ya ya, tysm for helping me

I appreciate it

[little anvil]

I often forget to turn off pings in my messages lol

[ivory plume]

(I'm experimenting with a new setSkipGoTo event command to jump to a specific point in the event script when the player clicks 'skip'. It's meant to perform cleanup before the event ends, but technically you can jump to any point in the event script.

edit: see not-broken-by-Discord version.)

[lucid iron]

your gif really shrunk in the wash

[ivory plume]

Discord is... not great at GIF optimizing.

[lucid iron]

hm it is borked in browser for me too, mysterious

[gentle rose]

idk, I like the vibe, I think you should implement it exactly like this

[ivory plume]

Here's a not-broken-by-Discord version.

[lucid iron]

how did u painting the ground is this a new feature

[ivory plume]

(I hacked the game code to disable placement restrictions.)

[reef kiln]

Place anything anywhere unofficial update lets you do that.

Or you can do the Pathos way

[lucid iron]

menancing event

although, i wonder if this feature could help with proper event replay

[green patrol]

question about setting gift tastes for pre-existing nps:

So I see on the wiki (https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Context_Tags), that context tags can be used to set gift tastes. Is this possible with using content patcher?

This is my current file for gifttastes: https://smapi.io/json/none/beef54dcec6048aaa2eb9e9882a0f3f2. I have like, 150+ items with the tag "sodamaker_item" in my objects file and Jas loves them all so uh...yeah am trying to see if it's possible to not have to list all of them individually

[gentle rose]

I'd imagine it could also help as a kind of "skip to the point" feature, where instead of skipping an entire event you can skip to the question/the important part

[brittle pasture]

sure
you can add a tag for "jas_loves_this_soda" to the relevant items and use that in the gift tastes

[calm nebula]

Clearly there needs to be a goto label <gsq>

[green patrol]

but I would just list it like I would an item ids?

[calm nebula]

And goto_end_if_skipped

[gentle rose]

what would the gsq be doing?

there's a non-gsq goto coming in 1.6.16

[calm nebula]

You jump only if the gsq is true

Pls

[gentle rose]

ohhh, I see I see

[calm nebula]

I want a beq

[ivory plume]

(goto [<label> [condition]]+ already exists in the next version!)

[lucid iron]

now we can make for loops

[rough lintel]

really love that crunchy gif, thought it was a cool new feature

[gentle rose]

-# pssst fixed discord-friendly gif btw

[lucid iron]

with increment stat

[reef kiln]

Is this so you can skip events and still get the items, friendship, ect

[brittle pasture]

I think that's already possible with an existing command

this is for selectively skipping parts

[reef kiln]

What command? I always use the button and I don't get the rewards.

[gentle rose]

we can have the player feed in two finite but arbitrarily long tapes of symbols over an alphabet and move the pointer, rewrite the symbol on tape and change the current state according to a state diagram...

-# yes I still want to make an event-based universal turing machine

[calm nebula]

Event promises

[brittle pasture]

setSkipActions

[gentle rose]

as in, it's an event command authors can write in, not a console command users can use

[brittle pasture]

yeah it's up to the author to add them
in vanilla it's used a couple times, like to ensure you still get the garden pot recipe even if you slam the door on granny Evelyn's face (metaphorically) (actually, correction: this is hardcoded, the event command just allows you to not hardcode it in your modded events)

[calm nebula]

(Set skip action: -
friendship Evelyn 1000)

[rough lintel]

anyone know the sound for when you pick up the phone off the top of your head

[calm nebula]

"Who the fuck dares call me."

[rough lintel]

ok yes but also

[lucid iron]

moshimoshi

[vivid cove]

how did the phone get on top of my head

[lucid iron]

openBox maybe?

[rough lintel]

its that sound when you press a switch or something

oh oh maybe it is openbox

ill note that

[vivid cove]

listen ive got a passion for game audio and also spreadsheets, if there is ever call for an audio asset list with use cases and so on I'd be happy to take a crack at it 😄

[calm nebula]

There is a spreadsheet linked from the wiki

[vivid cove]

I can't say I'm surprised hahaha

[calm nebula]

Speaking of audio are you interested in making the stardew audio engine thread safe?

[odd ginkgo]

weird question, you know that giant turtle that blocks the path on Ginger Island? where does it love in the tilesheets? I've been trying to find its sprite

it's not with the other island stuff, or on cursors

[lucid iron]

cursors2

[odd ginkgo]

cursors2!! dang haha i was so close

[lucid iron]

now with 20% more turtle

[odd ginkgo]

ty

[lucid iron]

incidentally whotf is this

[lucid iron]

theres a debug command logsound that logs sound names

[vivid cove]

wdym (noob)

[lucid iron]

resource ofc good too

but i think someone's updated the wiki list for 1.6

[hard fern]

Is it the good witch who gives you a... A golden egg? Idk all the witches love eggs so this is my guess

[calm nebula]

You said you had a passion for game audio!

[vivid cove]

this is true! why not haha

[rigid oriole]

Blueberry maybe

[tender bloom]

Yes

[reef kiln]

Oh, shoot. I skip a lot of cut scene I have seen more then 3 times. And end up forfeiting the rewards for the scenes. I thought there was a smapi command that I didn't know about.

[dusk mulch]

ive gotten this far in making my mod but i am losing motivation to continue because of how confusing the IMinigame is

[sour sleet]

Ok, so I've made my custom special orders board and I can interact with it. Only issue is, it displays this:

[hard fern]

Did tou le temps me

W... Ignore the french

I messed up

*did you mess up the i18n

Like not putting the key in properly

[sour sleet]

I don't think so? I will double check

I've changed a few names (shortened them) and it no longer says no translation. But how do I fix this?

[brittle pasture]

you need to load a string to Strings/SpecialOrderStrings
something like "{{ModId}}_OrderName" : "{{i18n:Something}}"

then you put [{{ModId}}_OrderName] as the name

wait

[sour sleet]

I've used EditData to Strings/SpecialOrderStrings and added it. I don't know what I missed

[brittle pasture]

i18n should just work

dont use square brackets

[sour sleet]

Oh it says on the wiki to use brackets

[calm nebula]

I think you use square brackets

[sour sleet]

I'm using square ones rn

[brittle pasture]

you use square brackets if you want to load from Strings/SpecialOrderStrings

if you don't it just uses the string as is

tldr pls post your json

[sour sleet]

I'm editing 3 json files. Special orders, special order strings, and the i18n

Which ones do you need?

[brittle pasture]

special order

ideally all 3

[sour sleet]

OK, do you mind if I dm them to you?

[brittle pasture]

just use smapi.io/json, unless there are reasons you can't?

[sour sleet]

I always use smapi.io, it's just I'd like it to remain private as it's for my expansion lol. No worries if not though, i can just put it here

[brittle pasture]

then if it makes you more comfortable dm is ok

[cedar turtle]

hm.. I want to give the rarecrows in CP config options. How do I address them? Just Rarecrow # because that's how they're called in game and this is basically for player understanding, as CP "knows" which is targeted due to coordinates?

[uncut viper]

what do you want the configs to do/change?

[cedar turtle]

different variants

Basically:
Here is n different textures for them, pick one, have fun

[uncut viper]

then for the displayname of the config option, you can put whatever you want/think would describe what the config is for best, as their actual usage will not be shown to the player

but you wont be able to show a visible preview

[reef kiln]

I dont remember, You can just download a CP pack that replaces them and see how they did it? That is how I checked.

[uncut viper]

when you make a config option you're basically making a custom token that you would then use in your Load actions to pick which .png to load, so the name of the config itself can be whatever

i think you might need to use the config i18n stuff to show an actual displayname though now that i think about it

but the idea is the same

[cedar turtle]

gotcha. So theoretically I could just name the config option for the alien rarecrow Hans and the game wouldn't throw a hissy fit.
Just that no user actually knows which Hans is lol

[uncut viper]

yeah, then you'd use {{Hans}} somewhere in your content.json and it'd be transformed into whatever the config value is

[sour sleet]

I'm testing a special order and it all works great up until dropping off the items at the "dropbox". It has a question mark above it so it is stated correctly, I'm just wondering if there's an extra step I need to take to get it to function

[uncut viper]

So if you had a config value called Hans and it had different AllowedValues, say Variant1 through Variant5, then somewhere in your content.json, it mighjt look like this:

"Action": "Load",
"Target": "Your Target idk",
"FromFile": "assets/Hans_{{Hans}}.png"