making-mods-general

[brave fable]

uhhhh see my mod translation implementations get worse and worse with every new project, let me see if i can find a normal one

[fathom rapids]

BLESS YES PLEASE

[brave fable]

your folder is named 18n

[fathom rapids]

oh

THANKS

[gray bear]

felt... one time i typed an i18n value without the n

[brave fable]

so for Gift Wrapper, the project layout is like so:
https://github.com/b-b-blueberry/GiftWrapper/tree/sdv-1-6/GiftWrapper
i reference the I18N TranslationHelper throughout the project from some static property here:
https://github.com/b-b-blueberry/GiftWrapper/blob/sdv-1-6/GiftWrapper/ModEntry.cs#L25
like so:
https://github.com/b-b-blueberry/GiftWrapper/blob/sdv-1-6/GiftWrapper/WrapItem.cs#L35

i'll never understand the tech lingo mashing that gives us urls like tree and blob

you don't need to make some internal static readonly getter property for the i18n helper, but it helps ☀️

[fathom rapids]

thank you i can now understand this 😭

why is the documentation like this

it was throwing an error that I18n was not found,,,

[tidal stone]

is there any specific reason to haeve my flowers and herbs and trees on different tilesheets or can i have them all on one

[fathom rapids]

absolutely have them all on one

[tidal stone]

nice

[fathom rapids]

the reason to have different is to make them easier to find i guess?

[tidal stone]

fair i guess for orginization

[gray bear]

...init

[brave fable]

did you press ctrl+. with the caret on the errored-out code at all? the intellisense problem solver should suggest importing a package

alternatively you can hover it and click the 💡❌ icon to bring up the same menu, but it doesn't like me much and vanishes

[gentle rose]

are you using rider or vs, blueberry?

it sounds exactly like how it works for me in rider so I'm curious if they just do it the same

[brave fable]

VS, it's just something in common i suppose

[gentle rose]

neat, they literally use the same shortcut then

[brave fable]

which checks out since ctrl+. is about as obtuse of a hotkey as jetbrains products like to use

shift+f6 or whatever to rename a symbol drives me insane

[gentle rose]

idek what they use for anything because there's three different hotkey configurations you choose from at the start and they change basically every hotkey

I'd just use my mouse (which I usually hate with a passion) but the right button only works roughly 5% of the time

[brave fable]

i think you need a new mouse haha

i hate replacing things that still mostly work but i've tried existing with flipping the mouse buttons for doing different tasks with a broken mouse and it's miserable

[gentle rose]

I think I need to use my fancy MX Master and not this wired thing that probably came free with something fifteen years ago

[brave fable]

nothing makes you lose your mind faster than trying to use photoshop with a flaky left mouse button

why i happen to have a fancy MX Master 3S right here

[gentle rose]

flaky left button? that's barely even usable

this one is an MX Master 1 haha, got it for free from my internship

[brave fable]

the last mouse (logitech G703) would work perfectly except for the LMB occasionally pressing 5 times instead of 1 and releasing 5 times per second if you held it down

which fucks up everything lol

and the whole outer tactile coating seems to be dissolving now i've left it for a while which is scary

[gentle rose]

oh the rubber kind that melts over time? yuck, it's probably sticky now too

[brave fable]

absolutely

[gentle rose]

hate that companies insist on using it

I would literally rather have the plastic

[brave fable]

the master 3s seems to have the same flavour of coating so i've got that to look forward to when i'm older and more decrepit

and maybe also dissolving

[gentle rose]

won't be able to tell if it's sticky if you are too, problem solved

[brave fable]

i'll say it's very nice having the horizontal scrollwheel on the mxm3s for visual studio, great to be able to read long lines in small window panes without having to drag the scrollbar each time

[fathom rapids]

WOW! I18N decided to un-throw the error and now I can follow the instructions in the documentation! ???

thank you @brave fable ;~; i now understand what all the code does

also the package was already imported see i started with that

it just. hadnt. caught up??? or something???

[brave fable]

yeah VS does actually need to think about what to say. it's very anxious but also very focused on its job

especially when you first open it, takes a while for it to remember what it was doing

[gentle rose]

whelp, I have literally no idea where that mx master is

[fossil osprey]

shift+scroll usually scrolls horizontally

[brave fable]

it does, but shiftscroll in VS is unbelievably slow lol

wonder if there's an option for that

[cyan venture]

@gentle rose sorry to bother you but i dont understand about i18n support...

hmm i mean i read wiki page about i18n

[gentle rose]

which part don't you understand?

[cyan venture]

but as i understand i18n is supporting the dialogs used by content patcher

and I edit the dialogue I want with C#

[gentle rose]

no, i18n works for c# too

[cyan venture]

yes

and the part

[gentle rose]

it isn't just dialogue, either - any message you show your user should be i18ned

[cyan venture]

is i dont understand how to add i18n into my code

[gentle rose]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Translation this page is about i18n in C# mods

[cyan venture]

im reading it currently

[brave fable]

also, your C# and CP mods won't be able to read or use eachother's i18n files or text. if you want to share i18n text between both mods, you need to add them to a data asset

[gentle rose]

(I believe they only have a C# mod right now)

[cyan venture]

yes

im only using C# right now

[gentle rose]

found the mx master forgot how nice these proper mice are

and somehow it still has charge after like three years in storage, legendary

[brave fable]

i've recharged my mouse like 3 times total since black friday. i haven't recharged my keyboard. unbelievable

i mean keyboards usually last long but that's on AA

[gentle rose]

these high-end peripherals are on another level

is your keyboard also logitech?

[calm nebula]

Something something challenge accepted

[brave fable]

please atra i've already done the stupid way and been shamed for it

[gentle rose]

no need, I can literally send you the code if you want, I have it ready

[brave fable]

logitech mx mechanical to match the pair

[gentle rose]

I'm glad this is every C# modder's shameful past crime

[brave fable]

i'm not ashamed, i've just been shamed for it

[fathom rapids]

I DID IT!!!!! THE NEW AGE OF RANGED COMBAT IS UPON US!!!!
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/32298

[fathom rapids]

yeah this is confusing as shit

1. Add a folder named "i18n" to your project and put the file "default.json" in it and put the normal stuff into there
2. Do this
   https://github.com/Pathoschild/SMAPI-ModTranslationClassBuilder#readme

Just remember to give it time between installing the package and writing/copypasting code -_-

[cyan venture]

oh wow

i think this will be the thing im looking for

[gentle rose]

be honest. how much of your time using the mx master do you spend making the scroll wheel glide for fun

[cyan venture]

i18n aside, I want to ask how to use CP mod in my mod folder

i mean this

[gentle rose]

what is the content pack for?

[fathom rapids]

I thiiink you probably just want it to be two separate mods? With just the regular mod order / asset access / api interaction?

That one is in the other's mod folder is just an organization quirk

[cyan venture]

for change the robin extra dialogue

the house upgrade accepted one

[fathom rapids]

Just make the content pack as a separate mod

and publish them in the same zip

[gentle rose]

for the i18n? you don't need to do that

keep it in the C# code

[cyan venture]

hmm but i saw other big mod have CP inside the main mod folder

[cyan venture]

no no this is for the update

[fathom rapids]

organization quirk

if it has its own manifest it's a separate mod

[cyan venture]

my last release Robin didnt have the ExtraDialogue because i cant change the "three days"

[gentle rose]

yeah, if you actually need it because you're adding separate things, the two parts of the mod will each be in a separate folder inside the main mod folder

[cyan venture]

oh

[brave fable]

i spend more time fighting to stop it from gliding than actually scrolling, i already use ctrl+home/end a lot and this is teaching me to use ctrl+g lol

[cyan venture]

i'll try it as a separate mod first to see if it work

[brave fable]

admittedly it is convenient for stuff like scrolling through endless browser tabs and merge conflicts

[gentle rose]

like

- Farmhouse Upgrades
|-- Farmhouse Upgrades Code <-- your C# mod
|   - manifest.json
|   - ...
|-- [CP] Farmhouse Upgrades <-- the content pack
|   - manifest.json
|   - ...

[cyan venture]

oh yea this

Ahh i need to take a break

So messy

[gentle rose]

it's convenient for going wheeeeeee

[brave fable]

it's also very very very inconvenient for zooming in/out in photoshop since one flick and your entire spritesheet is a blip in the distance

i'm glad the mxm3s comes with a ratchet mode even if it does go into slip n' slide supa speed still

[gentle rose]

even the 1 comes with ratchet mode, I think in the 1 you can disable glide entirely

[cyan venture]

ugh help me

everything work fine instead of this

[fathom rapids]

what's the source?

like what is the line like where you typed it

[cyan venture]

Robin ExtraDialogue Robin_HouseUpgrade_Accepted

{
"Format": "2.5.0",
"Changes": [
{
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/ExtraDialogue",
"Entries": {
"Robin_HouseUpgrade_Accepted": "Thank you! I'll get started tomorrow. I should be finished in around {UpgradeDays} days."
}
}
]
}

[fathom rapids]

{{UpgradeDays}}

try that

[cyan venture]

okay

[fathom rapids]

also use i18n always

literally break the line in half and put both halves in i18n

[cyan venture]

im testing it

to see if it work first

[fathom rapids]

i dont recommend that

i18n is a big enough change it's in my experience better to start doing it correctly than scramble to refactor later

-horrific flashbacks to i18n-ifying my seasonal outfits mod-

[cyan venture]

hmm so the dialogue get back to default

[vernal crest]

I always work that way. Starting with i18n introduces an extra point of failure to deal with in troubleshooting.

[cyan venture]

oh i got the problem

[vernal crest]

But I only do it with one thing at a time.

So if I was in Rias's shoes for example I'd figure out this token issue and then put it into i18n immediately after that.

[fathom rapids]

fair enough yeah

[vernal crest]

I do agree with not leaving i18n until right at the end of the entire mod. That seems daunting and inviting many new potential errors to be introduced.

[cyan venture]

I still don't understand much about i18n.

[vernal crest]

That means that UpgradeDays doesn't exist as a token in your mod. Did you get the spelling wrong?

[cyan venture]

after i read the document that Liliet sent i found a way to use i18n in my code

[cyan venture]

no is just something Liliet tell me to try

but what i dont understand about i18n is what i have to do with it and what it does

[vernal crest]

It just helps you to put all your translateable text into a document separate from your actual code (or json) so translators can translate your mod without releasing an entire copy of the mod and also without poking around in the code and breaking something.

[cyan venture]

people say i18n is used to translate my mod to another language or support it better

yes

[vernal crest]

Liliet told you to do this? #making-mods-general message was that before I arrived?

[cyan venture]

but I don't understand what I will have to create default.json file with

[vernal crest]

Because that token has nothing to do with i18n.

[cyan venture]

No, the things Liliet and I said above are CP's and I'm just trying to edit Robin's dialogue with CP.

you don't need to worry about it anymore because i'm still looking for a way to fix it

[vernal crest]

I'm not sure if your problem is that you're trying to translate to i18n or if your dialogue change isn't working, or both.

[cyan venture]

right now i think it's both. but the issue i'm more concerned about is that i'm trying to change the dialogue which isn't working

rather it works, but it fails for some reason

this is the picture i took when i changed the dialogue but it was broken'

with my message line has the CP code you asked

[vernal crest]

Okay well that's what I was talking about with the token. The game is saying you haven't defined the token before trying to use it. And you got that "days" line when your token incorrectly just had one set of curly braces around it.

Where are you defining that token before trying to use it? In the config of the CP mod?

[cyan venture]

config

im using C# and CP

[vernal crest]

It has to be defined in the CP mod to be able to use it in there. You can't read a token from your C# mod in your CP mod.

[cyan venture]

oh...

[ocean sail]

@cyan venture You leveled up to Cowpoke. You can now speak in our voice channels and share images in all channels!

[cyan venture]

but how

[vernal crest]

(Well, you can if you use Button's Cross-Mod Compatibility Tokens mod but not otherwise.)

[cyan venture]

i mean

[cyan venture]

i'll try this first

[vernal crest]

Or you could just do it all in C# instead of making a content pack just to change some dialogue.

[cyan venture]

I remember, I tried to merge CP and C# mods into one but got some error related to LocalizedContentManager

[cyan venture]

I tried but the code keeps crashing and I feel like I'm going crazy trying to fix it

[vernal crest]

You might be going down just as complex a path trying to create a config in your C# that you use in your CP mod, but I'll admit I don't know how to use tokens in C# yet so I couldn't offer advice about how to edit the dialogue with them in C# anyway.

[dusty jackal]

Hi, do you know a guide to create a mod with a custom machine?

[cyan venture]

welp i gave up

cant make it work

[vernal crest]

I don't know of any step by step guides but if you already know how to make CP mods, this page should have what you need to make a custom machine https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Machines

[vernal crest]

Whoops my last message was meant to be a reply

[vernal crest]

Have you already written the code to actually change how many days Robin takes to build?

[cyan venture]

yes

well but just let it go

hmm what is this

[fathom rapids]

I bet I could help you

(just had to go away for a bit sorry)

there's a mod that lets you just straight up access another mod's configs

[cyan venture]

it's okay, i'm the one in need so i can't ask for much

[fathom rapids]

the problem is I don't remember what the mod is called

[marble verge]

I get the feeling I already know why, but just in case: in CP, why does {{{{C}}.Alpha}} throw an error?

[cyan venture]

what do you mean

[vernal crest]

#making-mods-general message

[fathom rapids]

THAN KYOU

[vernal crest]

It's the mod I mentioned before. CMCT.

[fathom rapids]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/28284

[vernal crest]

No reason why that should inherently cause an error so you'll need to provide more info.

[marble verge]

{{C}} is variable; say it's "Machine". I want for {{{{C}}.Alpha}} to become {{Machine.Alpha}}, but CP doesn't like it.

[cyan venture]

hmm but my mod is 100% C# and this mod is for CP?

[fathom rapids]

yes, that's fine

[vernal crest]

What's the error?

[cyan venture]

oh i understand

[fathom rapids]

first you need to put your c# as a dependency in manifest for your cp mod

[calm nebula]

It's not php. You can't do that

[cyan venture]

so this mod let CP access token from C# mod right?

[fathom rapids]

yeah

[marble verge]

Yeah, I was afraid of that.

[fathom rapids]

then you use
{{Spiderbuttons.CMCT/Config: [YourC#ModID], UpgradeDays}}

where you were putting {UpgradeDays}

(just replace the placeholder)

[cyan venture]

ok

[tiny zealot]

you shouldn't need CMCT to access C#-mod-provided tokens in CP

[fathom rapids]

then what?

[vernal crest]

I had an inkling of this thought in my brain but I had no idea at all how to make them available. Because they're not available by default, are they? Or is it only CP mod tokens that can't be accessed by other mods?

[tiny zealot]

if the C# mod is using content patcher API's RegisterToken, then in CP you just access the token in its namespace

e.g.

            var cpapi = this.Helper.ModRegistry.GetApi<IContentPatcherAPI>("Pathoschild.ContentPatcher");
            cpapi.RegisterToken(this.ModManifest, "YourTokenName", () => {
                return new[] {$"{your value here}"};
            });```
then in CP you do
`"{{your.smapi.ModId/YourTokenName}}"`

this is the purpose of CP's token API: to expose tokens for CP packs to use.
but aba is right that tokens defined within a CP mod are local to that mod and can't be used by others without CMCT doing its thing to expose them

[cyan venture]

well i tried this method too

and it give me the default dialogue

[tiny zealot]

(also, note that technically you should be checking whether your GetApi call returns null, but my mod has a hard dependency on content patcher and content patcher is one mod that it is, in practice, safe to assume everyone has)

[tribal ore]

Hey, @tiny zealot, would it be possible to specify a higher base resolution for secret note images (e.g. 640px by 640px)? I don't think Secret Note Framework allows this at the moment, but is this something you might consider adding?

[vernal crest]

I am ashamed to say that I do not understand enough about C# modding yet to understand whether you need to register tokens with CP's API to use them within your own C# mod. Or whether you even need tokens if it's a C# mod or if you achieve the same functionality with something different.

[tiny zealot]

it is a feature i have thought about, but currently it is not possible. if i do allow it, i likely won't go past 256x256, since the default size renders at 4x by default so going higher will cause bad pixels

or maybe i'll give you more canvas to work with, who knows we'll see /lh

[tribal ore]

Alright, thanks for your response. I was really jazzed to put artwork in there 😛 Will go back and re-evaluate now

[tiny zealot]

if you're going C# to C# then you definitely don't need CP tokens (they're only for content patcher). if you're within the same mod, you can just access whatever you need, and if it's different mods you can use smapi messages to shuttle data between them (or reflection, if one is hostile)

"hostile" meaning not under your control, probably not a great word choice

[vernal crest]

Thank you for the info I was just thinking within the same mod because Rias only started considering a CP mod because they couldn't get Robin's dialogue to change the way they wanted. So I thought I might as well try to learn how to do that to give me direction for my next set of C# lessons.

[ivory plume]

(You can use Game1.Multiplayer instead of the private Game1.multiplayer field.)

[cyan venture]

uhhh some how it worked but token days disappeared

[cyan venture]

oh okay tks

[ivory plume]

Sorry, forgot to reply earlier! If you're using...

• the basic token API: Content Patcher will handle all the details like that, you just need to return the token values when asked.
• the advanced token API: you'll need to cache values until the next context update if they may change (see caveats and concepts in the docs).

[cyan venture]

ahhhhhhhh, i should just let this dialogue disappear

[dusty jackal]

Thank you so much

[hot gale]

It seems that running a flavored item through a custom smoker strips the flavor? Anyone familiar with something like this?

[cyan venture]

@fathom rapids @gentle rose @tiny zealot @vernal crest i did it omg

uhm but the portrait is gone

but it's ok

i think we dont need that

[hot gale]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/68461659a99a40caa28704916e8e9f62
This is the operation I have atm, it is probably way wrong because I've been trying a plethora of things to allow the smoker to spit out the exact same flavored item + smoked effect/price increase

I dont know why I have so much trouble understanding the logic of how preserves work

[topaz jay]

Does anyone know of a mod that allows you to change the position of the stamina bar, toolbar, etc, but for mobile? (Android)

[calm nebula]

#modded-stardew but no

[topaz jay]

Oops, srry and thx

[tribal ore]

Is @tiny zealot still around?

[tiny zealot]

yeah what's up?

[tidal stone]

How complicated is the code to randomly color flower heads

would you cakll it easyish to deal with with a first time delving into code?

[tribal ore]

Not seeing text on a combined secret note

Just the image

            "Contents": "{{i18n:SecretNote_Joja.contents}}",
            "Title": "{{i18n:SecretNote_Joja.title}}",
             "Conditions": "PLAYER_HEARTS Current Demetrius 2",
             "NoteImageTexture": "Mods/{{ModId}}/SecretNotesImages",
             "NoteImageTextureIndex": 2
           },```

"SecretNote_Joja.contents": "^On the back is scrawled \"HELL NO\".",

[cyan venture]

anyway to test multiplayer function without multiplayer? guys

[marble verge]

Where can I find the default colors for the various categories?

[fathom hound]

[[Modding:Context_tags]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Context_tags

[marble verge]

I mean the RGBA codes 😅

[rancid musk]

You can just run the game twice.

It doesn't have the sort of DRM or whatever that'd stop that.

[rancid musk]

StardewValley.Object.GetCategoryColor(int category)

[marble verge]

That looks like C#, but I just want the colors (RGB, HEX) so I can use them for image editing.

[brittle pasture]

"selph.ExtraMachineConfig.ExtraPreserveId.1": "DROP_IN_PRESERVE",
should be
"selph.ExtraMachineConfig.ExtraPreserveId.1": "DROP_IN_PRESERVE_1"

[rancid musk]

Yeah, it is C#. The colors are hard-coded and not listed on a wiki anywhere to my knowledge.

[marble verge]

Ah, okay.

[rancid musk]

I suppose I could add the colors to the categories section of the items page

[hot gale]

Thanks Selph! Helpful as always :D

Hmm seems that is just coming out as Cider

[fathom hound]

Wait… did you release the mod?

[brittle pasture]

how many flavors does your cider have

[hot gale]

Just one

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/1713823f7d7141ce8a122faa08cb6961

And that process works as it should I believe

I get FLAVOR Cider

Sorry I have pestered you so much with this, idk why I can't grasp it

[brittle pasture]

aahhh I see

ok you wanna use INPUT_EXTRA_ID_1 instead, since this is the flavor of the primary input itself

[brittle pasture]

which mod?

[hot gale]

"selph.ExtraMachineConfig.ExtraPreserveId.1": "INPUT_EXTRA_ID_1", in ModData?

[brittle pasture]

yes

[hot gale]

Rock on

Working :D

[fathom rapids]

YAHOOOO!!!

[fathom hound]

This one?

[brittle pasture]

oh yeah I released it a while haha, firedlily's furniture machines make use of it

for the clothes recycler

[fathom hound]

Oh I’ve been wanting to release textile shredder finally

[lucid iron]

MakeWeedses

[fathom hound]

That’s what I’m doing ^_^

So how would I be able to code it in now???

[brittle pasture]

just as usual, it's a passive change

[hot gale]

Selph would it be possible to preserve 3 separate flavor IDs in my smoking process? Asking if it's worth adding support for smoking my 'final' meads

[brittle pasture]

something like category_clothing for context tags for example (I think that's the right context tag?)

[fathom hound]

Okay cause I have like hundreds of clothes already set up to yield the output

[brittle pasture]

sure, increment the number for each flavor (DROP_IN_ID_2 and etc.)

[hot gale]

Cool, thanks again!

[tiny zealot]

hmm, that looks right at a glance. i'll take a look

[formal crown]

I'm back with another bizarre bug which I don't know how to deal with

[brittle pasture]

anyway fought water draw code last night and the draw code won

[hot gale]

Whoa that looks awesome

[hard fern]

I didnt know you could

Water

Is that meant to be an aquaponics system?

Hydroponic

Idk whag the word is it's all water

[hot gale]

hydroponic is the term I believe lol

[brittle pasture]

aquaponics = hydroponics + fish

so you're both correct lol

[hot gale]

Oooo you're incorporating fish?

[brittle pasture]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquaponics

[formal crown]

Today, subject bug is mentioning conflicts with PIF, a certain pack for it named Enchanted Garden and Vast Domain talent. When Vast Domain is enabled, erases all fish data for the Enchanted Garden and leaves only trash, okay, but why?

[hard fern]

Nice to know that Water has Fish

[hot gale]

All fish have water but not all water has fish

think about that

[hard fern]

I forgot what a fish was and was about to ask "what about ostriches"

(this happens a shocking amount)

[hot gale]

ostfishes

[brittle pasture]

what does Vast Domain do can you remind me (on phone waiting for food rn)

[formal crown]

Make catching legendaries easier

Only by editing Data/Locations

The content pack doesn't make any changes there, and I don't know where PIF source is so I don't know how PIF works as well

[brittle pasture]

it's here: https://gitlab.com/delixx/stardew-valley

and delixx is around as well, you can ping them

[tiny zealot]

hmm, i'm not getting repro on this. can you send me a log when you have a chance?

[hot gale]

Woot :D

Forgot to copy color, but working as well, thanks Selph :D

[brittle pasture]

smoked and aged, dang
need salt curing next

[hot gale]

I might add filtering lol

Use wool/camel wool to make cheesecloth to filter your mead/cider, get byproducts and further extend price

[fathom hound]

This is the largest tooltip I’ve ever seen

[hot gale]

rofl

[fathom hound]

Yay Selph. Thanks for making extra machine config

I’m really excited to get textile shredder into action

[hot gale]

Wonder if there is a way to insert the preserve flavors into my description instead

[brittle pasture]

not yet, description is hardcoded and I havent gotten around to untangle it yet

the only item in game with dynamic description is smoked fish

[rancid musk]

Here, a larger tooltip. 🙂

[fathom hound]

HOLY CRAP LMAO

[hot gale]

the everything bagel

lmfao

Everything Everywhere All At Once reference?

[formal crown]

[fathom hound]

omfg if someone had my mod installed and had my poppyseed bagel next to this bagel id freaking laugh so hard

[brittle pasture]

even if it isnt, by my decree it is

[fathom hound]

WITH NO BUFFS? /j

[formal crown]

Imagine trying to craft this with modded items

[tidal stone]

the flavour on that thing must be insane

[undone hawk]

Show of hands for those who set up unit tests for their mods

[fathom hound]

throws bagel in luau

everyone hates it

[tidal stone]

god

[hot gale]

sounds like an unenjoyable level of crunchy

[fathom hound]

errrmmm what does as usual mean ._.'

[brittle pasture]

just make your machine rules with the clothing as input

[fathom hound]

oh wait so i dont actually need to add anything to the code as long as the user has ur mod installed?

[brittle pasture]

yep

[fathom hound]

OMG ur amazing tysm

oh i need i18n lol

[tiny zealot]

0 Largemouth Bass
0 Sugar
0 Purple Mushroom
493 Pumpkin
0 Melon

someone who's good at bagels help me budget this my family is dying

[tidal stone]

pick a plant, any plant

[hot gale]

Rosemary

[tidal stone]

07

[tribal ore]

This what you need?
https://smapi.io/log/f4bb4d99d959490ebf9cfb0e320b420b

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on macOS Unix 15.3.1, with 9 C# mods and 2 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[formal crown]

Saffron

[hot gale]

lol copying the color and then smoking it makes them all yellow

dat nicotine tint

[tidal stone]

ill do rosemary and saffron next then

[fathom hound]

yay okay so my machine works but it's not using these frames to animate processing...

[teal bridge]

That little squiggle under "Ginsing" is telling you it's spelled "Ginseng".

[brittle pasture]

Try setting both load and working effects to that

machines are funky where if the load effects don't fire so won't the working effects

[fathom hound]

up here?

what do i add to it?

[brittle pasture]

whoops, load effects as in LoadEffects in the machine data

right above WorkingEffects

[hot gale]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/c7524f3e4f8349148da96c823bc52d2a

[fathom hound]

oh i must have forgot to add LoadEffects

[hot gale]

This is my working animated big machine

If you need a reference

[fathom hound]

ty!

[hot gale]

IIRC I couldnt get my animation to play with a load effect as well as a working effect

[fathom hound]

i put this and it couldnt work

[hot gale]

You only want it to animate when working

[fathom hound]

yeah!

[unreal spoke]

That’s funny. Iirc, I had to use both a working and a loading effect for it to work properly.

[hot gale]

LoadEffects triggers only when you first place an item in it

So ideally you'd want it to just play a sound, maybe shake

What I did was just add a bubble sound in WorkingEffects so it does it every so often

and it doesnt shake like other machines cause it stats animation immediately

So I didnt even end up using LoadEffects

[fathom hound]

ohhh can i add a sound from other machine sounds in game????

[brittle pasture]

think you also need WorkingEffectChance

[hot gale]

You can even add your own

[fathom hound]

would 1 be 100%?

[brittle pasture]

Yep

[hot gale]

I did for my projectiles in my weapon pack

[fathom hound]

true i added a custom sound before

i like the wood chipper noise tbh tho

[rancid musk]

I have added the category colors to the wiki page Modding:Items.

[marble verge]

Fantastic, thanks!

[fathom hound]

where would i be able to find game sounds?

[hot gale]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CpDrw23peQiq-C7F2FjYOMePaYe0Rc9BwQsj3h6sjyo/edit?gid=239695361#gid=239695361

You'd use the ID on the left

That is just a info dump though, if you want to hear them I imagine you have to extract the assets

[fathom hound]

thanks.. i dont think i can find it

[hot gale]

"Sounds": [
          {
            "Id": "woodchipper",
            "Delay": 0
          }
        ],

is the default

Think I shot myself in the foot for naming conventions on my aged mead

[brittle pasture]

you can play sounds in game with debug ps soundcuehere

[fathom hound]

tysm(:

[hot gale]

I 'randomized' the outputs for the process to where You get PRESERVE_1, PRESERVE_2, PRESERVE_3 in a random order so it feels more authentic

This means now when I age them, it seems I cant properly translate that with one recipe

[tiny zealot]

hmm. nothing sticks out, except that you are also editing the vanilla secret notes asset. i assume that's just to change a vanilla reference or something?
i assume the framework note shows up on your secret notes collection tab with the framework's default item icon?

[hot gale]

Naming convention can only come out one way, as far as I can tell

I tried using %DISPAY_NAME and {0} neither worked how I wanted

[tribal ore]

No. If I'm editing the vanilla notes, that is by accident! But the framework note does show up with the special secret note icon

[hot gale]

Might have to just truncate the outputs for the aged mead to always come out a single way

[brittle pasture]

you can make multiple entries again, unless I misunderstood what you wanted

[hot gale]

How would that work with the inputs all being the same item but with just a different naming convention

[brittle pasture]

assign fuel flavor 1 to slot 2, or 3

instead of slot 1

[hot gale]

Gotcha

[fathom hound]

i put this and still no animation or sound

its wobbling still too

[tribal ore]

@tiny zealot I've got the latest Secret Notes Framework, I believe. Happy to do/test whatever helps

[hot gale]

Try lowering the interval?

[tiny zealot]

yeah yours looks up to date. can you either put together a minimal repro content pack and send it to me (DM is fine), or try removing a few extraneous mods and see if one of them is interfering?

[hot gale]

Did you spawn a new one?

[fathom hound]

yeah and lowering interval to 100 didnt change cnaything either

[hot gale]

Thats odd

[tiny zealot]

the only other harmony mods you have are portraiture and custom tokens, but i can't imagine either of them patching the letterviewermenu

[tribal ore]

I can remove both of them and give it a try. If that doesn't work, how do I put together the content pack? Just .tar everything in my mods folder?

[fathom hound]

https://smapi.io/json/none/121187e427974f31b58eff39c2a47e13 feel bad sending screenshots

[unreal spoke]

If it helps, I could share my machine code, too.

[fathom hound]

if it is animated then yes please!

[unreal spoke]

Yup, just give me a sec!

[fathom hound]

tysm!

[tiny zealot]

ideally you cut out anything but the bare minimum to get repro, but your list is small enough that i'll take it as is

[tribal ore]

.tar or .zip?

[tiny zealot]

zip is easiest

[hot gale]

My only guess is the lack of information in your machine data? I copied an existing machine and only changed what I needed whereas you are only including what you need.. not sure if that matters but just a thought

What is there looks like it should work

[brittle pasture]

I noticed you have frames 2 and 3, but your sprite sheet only has 3 frames (so it only goes to 2)

[hot gale]

Ahhhh

I didnt look at the sheet

[unreal spoke]

Here's mine. Sorry, took a moment to turn my laptop on and cut about 3k lines of producer rules, lol
https://smapi.io/json/none/5275ee9a9db14db4af058fb1be7b1a54

[fathom hound]

oooh someone told me 0 was the default frame o:

so it would be 1,2,3?

[hot gale]

0 ideally is the static frame, iirc

[unreal spoke]

0 is the leftmost and non-working one in your spritesheet, yup.

[hot gale]

So you would place 0, then play 1,2,3

If you had 4 frames

So you would place 0 and play 1,2

It will then cycle frames 1-2 until its done

If you intended on them all to be animated, you have to add a static one to the leftmost index

So it would be STATIC/Your First/Second/Third

[fathom hound]

oooooooooooooohh

thx all!

okay crap its still not working =-=

[fathom hound]

oh thanks !

[unreal spoke]

No guarantee that's the way it's supposed to be done, but it's the only way I could get it to work back then. Let me know if you need more info!

[fathom hound]

my machine works just not the sound/animation part

dont think i could change anything ;-;

[unreal spoke]

Do me a favor and try to add load effects using the same animation data as the working effects.

[fathom hound]

ok!

[unreal spoke]

(Again, no guarantee and no logical reason that'd work, but it's what worked for me for whatever reason, lol.)

[latent mauve]

We did notice a slight issue with not being able to have both working and loading effects from someone else, I think?

[fathom hound]

didnt work

[unreal spoke]

Dammit.

[hot gale]

My machine doesnt have LoadEffects assigned at all

[latent mauve]

I'd recommend pulling apart my LaundryMachines code for an example but that's also using Furniture Machines rather than a BigCraftable, so behavior might be slightly different

[tribal ore]

Guys, is there like... a list of swear words that would fall under "Adult Content" on Nexus? Obviously f-bombs would go in that category, but what about stuff like "crap" and "damn"? Those are extremely mild to my ears, but maybe I need to make a profanity toggle for my mod to filter them out?

[fathom hound]

please!

[hot gale]

I would assume anything that cant be said on broadcast TV or radio

[fathom hound]

ill look for anything, ill find it rn

[unreal spoke]

I wouldn't really call either of them adult content if I'm honest. I think that's more reserved for, like, nudity?

[hot gale]

I'd agree there

[tribal ore]

Nexus asks about swearing, and I'm just a little paranoid xD

[hot gale]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/930402fa267a41928bc8133949c1adf6

I would copy this format exactly, change only the info necessary for your machine/mod

[lucid iron]

Alex says damn good burger at one point

I think you are fine

[hot gale]

I copied a stock machine and only edited what I wanted changed, and after discovering LoadEffects was preventing my WorkingEffects I removed that as well

[tribal ore]

Sweet. I'll just double-check for f-bombs and call it a day then

[unreal spoke]

You're making me question whether my animation actually still works after all...

[hot gale]

Im testing with mine rn so I know it works haha

[unreal spoke]

Same. 😆

Okay, yes – it works. The hell, Stardew?

[unreal spoke]

Okay again, more testing with this JSON:

• Both working and loading effects like up here: Works ✅
• Only working and no loading effects: Works ✅
• Working effects and loading effects with the animation part removed: Doesn't work ❌
  This is so weird.

[fathom hound]

sigh should i just give up LOL

;-;

[unreal spoke]

I don't think you should. For what it's worth, I also don't think it's a problem on your end but the game being extremely weird.

[fathom hound]

oh!!!

i hope so feeling dumb lol

[unreal spoke]

I'm sorry, but I fear I'm at my wit's end. That copying into load effects was the only workaround that worked for me.

[fathom hound]

sending in case i missed anything

i might just upload it anyway just cause ive been waiting so long to anyway

GUYS LMFAO

I THINK IK WHY IT AINT WORKING FML

wrong folder location i accidentally edited the copied code

[unreal spoke]

I can't decide whether I should "" or "", lol.

[fathom hound]

literally both HAHA

praying it works now omfg

[reef kiln]

Defenses Division has a character that makes a giant penis snowman at the winter festival. I think you will be fine with damn. Also swears a bunch to..... so agian think you will be fine.

[fathom hound]

OMG CRAP IT DIDNT WORK

yoba is playing me rn

call it beta and call it a day

https://smapi.io/json/none/2e50530255ea4ca7a6b24e234969d839 if anyone wants to try and pick ur brain apart to figure this out pls lmk

[tribal ore]

whew xD

[reef kiln]

I personally (as a parent) think defense division should have the adult tag, but I doesn't. And I don't want to add the tag to someone else mod as I don't like confrontations.

[hot gale]

Did you try what I suggested? Copying my machine code and just swapping your specific info?

[ornate locust]

I mean, nobody gonna confront you over tagging their mod, as most people don't even notice it

Don't even think there's a way to see who did it

As long as you're not using the tagging system to troll, tag away

[reef kiln]

Adding the adult tag though would hide the mod unless logged into nexus. I don't want to upset people, over a few swears and a penis joke.

[hot gale]

The machine code is wonky as hell

[ornate locust]

Well, but not adding it means people get surprised by content they may not want?

[hot gale]

I tried following the wiki, and following someone else's animated machine, neither worked out lol

[ornate locust]

tags really don't work unless people use them as intended (which is particularly annoying re: the translation tag)

And one person can't add it, it's like a voting thing, it has to be several

so basically you are gently suggesting the tag be added

[fathom hound]

yes, what you had were a bunch of optional fields

[ornate locust]

Oh, and the modder has veto power, they can just flat remove it if they like. Honestly I'd love if people used the system as intended on my mods, I'm not fabulous at tagging. But I've only had people try to use it to troll.

[hot gale]

I would take out Load effects, and change the animation to frames 1,2 if the file still only has 3 images

[reef kiln]

It may also be a cultural difference as the main language of the mod I not English. I will think about suggesting it.

[fathom hound]

not 0,1,2?

i tried without the load effects, still not working for mee

[hot gale]

Correct. 0 is static

That might be your biggest problem honestly

[unreal spoke]

Is 0 static? In the end, it's just a regular sprite like any other. I use a repeating [0,1,2,3] for my animation without a problem.

[hot gale]

I was under the assumption that was the case perhaps not like I said this machine code is seriously wonky

[fathom hound]

this is with 4 frames right?

[reef kiln]

The machine actually works right? It is just the animation that is not correct?

[fathom hound]

yes

i literally dont know, i give up

[unreal spoke]

Yup! This is the spritesheet I use.

[fathom hound]

i copied pasted code for code on dora's mod and it still didnt work

[candid stratus]

Is there a size limit to style sheets?

that sounds like a very unhealthy question lol

[rigid musk]

😨 how many tiles are you making

[candid stratus]

Well my tiles have artifacts when I put like 20x20 together cause of recurring patterns, so I wanna make a unique 20x20 pattern for every tile I'll be using a lot

But I dont wanna have like 20 stylesheets

[rigid musk]

I don't... think that will be noticeable in game ? 20 tiles is a large area when you're actually walking around

[candid stratus]

I suppose I can make it smaller

[rigid musk]

But for the most part you can have pretty big tilesheets - think the furniture sheet itself

[candid stratus]

But you get this kinda stuff and it's driving me insane

[ornate trellis]

tilesheet max is 4096x4096

[rigid musk]

I mean having a few variations for each tile isn't bad

[candid stratus]

Though I suppose I could overlap a partial transparent texture that's slightly enlarged

[ornate trellis]

if you mean on how big a single sheet can be

[candid stratus]

The thing is I'm very bad at making tiles line up with eachother

[candid stratus]

Yess I did, thanks!

But so making a bunch of variations is just gonna ruin me

[rigid musk]

256 tiles

[ornate locust]

You can also rotate tiles for variation

[candid stratus]

I'm an engineer, not an artist

If I rotate them, they dont line up anymore

[reef kiln]

This is going to sound silly as I don't think it is necessary. But have you tried adding the rules under the actual machine code with all the processing rules, rather then a separate entry for it. I am wondering if the 2nd "(BC){{ModId}}_TextileShredder": { is for some reason over ridding the first.

[rigid musk]

(256 tiles across not total)

[ornate trellis]

my biggest pain is getting the cliff tiles to line up well enough that they look ok

[ornate locust]

Mirroring them at least should line up well enough for that tileset

I'd think

[candid stratus]

hmm I'll try

[hot gale]

I almost gave up too, it's worth sticking to it trust me

[ornate locust]

Like just a few different tiles can really break things up

[uncut viper]

tbh i think with that tileset mirroring might even be a little more obvious and stand out to me, but hard to gague without seeing it first ofc

[hot gale]

Been meaning to ask, Tiled has a mirror option when you place tiles - does that translate in-game?

[ornate locust]

Sometimes

For tiles, yes

But if it has anything like sitting data, no

so don't mirror couches

[hot gale]

Gotcha, good to know

[ornate locust]

A mirrored couch'll look fine until you sit on it, then it'll be messed up

[hot gale]

So only mirror inaccessible couches got it 😂

[rigid musk]

You know.. mirrored tiles might be why I can't figure out some cliff stuff I just kinda forgot you can mirror things..

[ornate locust]

Or use my mod that mirrors couches :V

it still amuses me that it's impossible to make a couch face most TVs in vanilla

[rigid musk]

Wait what do you mean

[ornate locust]

The TV faces us

The couch does too

There's a side couch but that also doesn't directly face

[rigid musk]

Do you mean for the tiles? Cause you can just.. rotate the couch

For furniture

[ornate locust]

I'm talking tilesets

For setting up an NPC's house

[rigid musk]

Okay okay I was like wait a second

[ornate locust]

Yeah no, not furniture, tileset

Only PC can face the TV with couch

[rigid musk]

You're right that is weird

[hot gale]

I actually did use your tile set when I was making my saloon

[rigid musk]

I'll likely be using it when I get to making Honey's house

[ornate locust]

Glad it's useful! I was really having a time of it making a living room

[fathom hound]

no but ill try that

they're 2 different things which is confusing me bc techinically, this isnt a craftable

u just buy the m achine

[rigid musk]

The machine would still count as a big Craftable though right? Even if you can't craft it directly

Like woodchippers

[fathom hound]

            "LogName": "Textile Shredder Load",
            "Target": "Mods/{{ModId}}/TextileShredder",
            "Action": "Load",
            "FromFile": "textileshredder.png"
        },
        {
            "LogName": "Textile Shredder Machine Data",
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/BigCraftables",
            "Entries": {
                "{{ModId}}_TextileShredder": {
                    "Name": "{{ModId}}_TextileShredder",
                    "DisplayName": "{{i18n: textileshredder.name}}",
                    "Description": "{{i18n: textileshredder.desc}}",
                    "Price": 0,
                    "Fragility": 0,
                    "IsLamp": false,
                    "Texture": "Mods\\{{ModId}}\\TextileShredder"
                }
            }
        },
        {
            "LogName": "Animation/Sound",
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/Machines",
            "Entries": {
                "{{ModId}}_TextileShredder": {
                    "WorkingEffects": [
                        {
                            "Sounds": [
                                {
                                    "Id": "woodchipper",
                                    "Delay": 0
                                }
                            ],
                            "Frames": [
                                0,
                                1,
                                2
                            ],
                            "Interval": 250
                        }
                    ],
                    "WorkingEffectChance": 1
                }
            }
        }```

where would i merge it?

[fathom hound]

i figured since i was copy and editing button's mod

[uncut viper]

my wha

[fathom hound]

the little library one from like a month ago

[uncut viper]

thats not mine!

[fathom hound]

oops i might be confusing with someone else

[uncut viper]

ive never touched a machine mod in my life. machines are scary

[fathom hound]

oh yes it was @brittle ledge

i wanna upload it anyway ill just call it a beta until i have more patience to fix it, i need to focus on irl stuff

[reef kiln]

put this.

Here

[silver sand]

I thought that was scratch

[fathom hound]

this is my first machine mod so ihave no idea how to

[fathom hound]

ohhhh i see what you mean now

ill try it

[reef kiln]

sorry not sure how else to explain it. not sure it will work but it would make only one
{
"LogName": "General Rule Setup",
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/Machines",
"Entries": {
"(BC){{ModId}}_TextileShredder": {
Enrty instead of 2 of them. not that I think it should matter. but maybe it does.

I am just wondering if the 2nd "(BC){{ModId}}_TextileShredder": { is overridding the first even though they have different data

[fathom hound]

thats a rly good guess!!! ill try

ok fingies crossed

it doesnt work at all now

[brittle pasture]

can you post what you have right now at smapi.io/json

[fathom hound]

thank you selph

https://smapi.io/json/none/fe5653781f2e49e9ae15b20431356d42

[brittle pasture]

Data/Machines key must be the full qualified id

add (BC) to the beginning of the key

[fathom hound]

thank you im gonna try again now, guess i accidentally removed it when i copied pasted

To fix this error either change the JSON to a JSON object (e.g. {"name":"value"}) or change the deserialized type to an array or a type that implements a collection interface (e.g. ICollection, IList) like List<T> that can be deserialized from a JSON array. JsonArrayAttribute can also be added to the type to force it to deserialize from a JSON array.
Path ''..```

[brittle pasture]

your OutputRules block is accidentally outside of the main "(BC){{ModId}}_TextileShredder" block

it's currently a top level block in Data/Machines

[tidal stone]

is ti possible to let a plant be harvestable halfway through its growth process and make it poisonous if harvested after the first stage?

like can i attach different harvest to different stages?

I ask because im tryin gto make a plant called Poke Weed that is very poisonous wants it reaches full maturity and grows berries

but if you pick it when its young it is able to be cooked three times making it edible

[brittle pasture]

that would need C#

[fathom hound]

IT WORKS

[tidal stone]

Ah, 😔

can you mix C# with content patcher in asingle mod?

im not adverse to trying to learn code if its not overly complicated for my first try

[fathom hound]

OMG TYSM @reef kiln @brittle pasture

[brittle pasture]

you cannot, but what you can do is have a folder that contains a C# mod and a content patcher mod

[tidal stone]

Ah, am i allowed to upload it as one entry on nexus or would i need to make that a dependant seperate mod

[unreal spoke]

So, what was the problem?

[brittle pasture]

(also modifying crop harvest behavior would be quite complicated. I do not mean to discourage you however, if you want to dive into C# feel free to go ahead!)

[reef kiln]

Just happy I was right. Would have felt bad if I was wrong. 😀

[tidal stone]

Ah is it

then ill probably wait for my first try to be something else XD

in the meantime do you think it would be ok to make it where you just harvest the crop at the appropriate time and it grows no further?

[fathom hound]

i had 2 edit machine data blocks

[tidal stone]

I might write a description for it like 'ordinarily if picked at its full grown state this weed is quite poisonous...thankfully this variety unique to the valley stays small and doesnt seem to produce the berries that cause the plant to be completely inedible' for the seed bag

or would that be too immersive takey outy

[unreal spoke]

But you found the problem, so all’s well that ends well!

[fathom hound]

thanks to you lovely people!

[hot gale]

Congrats

[fathom hound]

thank you! and thank u guys for ur help!

[hot gale]

Its so satisfying to see it finally animate lol

I was in the same boat

My carbonator my girlfriend drew :D

[tidal stone]

what are the easiest C# mods to make i want to do one eventually just to start learning

[brittle pasture]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started is a good page to start

including a sample mod that just prints something to the console when a button is pressed, which is probably the easiest category (do stuff in response to events)

[tidal stone]

ooh

ty ty

ill probably work oin that after i finish my herbs and flowers mod :3

[shut edge]

i have once again forgotten how to do comment blocks in a CP mod json

anyone recall?

[hot gale]

When calling for a machine to be included in a recipe do I use the entry with our without (BC)

With, I assume?

[brittle pasture]

as an ingredient? with
otherwise it would use the Object (ie. (O)) with that item ID

[true coyote]

I'm guessing it would need C# but... companion planting mod? 👀 plants that are beneficial to each other and planted within 1-2 tiles of each other give a yield boost? (I'd say quality and speed growth too but, fertilizers) and then there are ones that shouldnt be planted together and have negative effects? (slow growth x%)

[brittle pasture]

there's https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/6577

also SpaceCore's features where you can define extra harvests depending on nearby crops

[true coyote]

at the very least it wouldnt need them to be(come) hybrids, just a benefits thing and a little more sleuthing for puzzling out planting, instead of the ol slap a bunch of this in the ground. I'll look at spacecore, but its probably out of my reach knowledge and time wise

[brittle pasture]

it just involves editing SpaceCore's custom assets really

the same way you would edit Data/Crops

[true coyote]

interesting

[unreal spoke]

// in front of one line or /* in front of the first line and */ behind the last line you want to comment out.

[shut edge]

thank you

[brittle pasture]

most likely not. if you want to yeet it bazaar-style be my guest
my only goal is to have an NPC [speening in the wooden chamber](#making-mods-general message)

[lucid iron]

RotateLeah

I don't really have ideas here tho it is kind of nice to have big preview

Perhaps just a smol side grid to pick would be enough?

[uncut viper]

i have a buncha ideas for it but no time to do it does that count

[shut edge]

one fo my submods is still doing the false updates thing...anyone familiar with that process and could take a look at mine?

"UpdateKeys": [ "Nexus:24869@fruitghostsAHM" ],

[brittle pasture]

(heck if you're making that mod I might contribute my code. the core functionality is just a postfix to teleport the NPC, one to have them play the animation, and a prefix to have them say the dialogue instead of Robin)
(though I do need to transpile CarpenterMenu for the extra functionality of "Sheds that people other than Robin can build", but that'd likely be handled by your hypothetical menu replacement)

[shut edge]

i've got @fruitghostsAHM in the desc for the optional file

[lucid iron]

Don't hold ur breath on me making anything rn

[shut edge]

is there something else i need to be doing?

[uncut viper]

(i also have way too much on my plate to think about actually making it right now)

[brittle pasture]

your optional file's version number needs to be lower than the main file

[shut edge]

it is

[lucid iron]

I need to yeet shop menu first

[shut edge]

optional is just 1, main mod is 4.0.1

[brittle pasture]

yeah just found your mod page, hmm

[shut edge]

seems like i solved this for another mod by just....not having an update key in the submod lol

[faint ingot]

question about the movie theater - if I go joja route, then teleporting to the movie theater shows the joja version, but in an event "changeToTemporaryMap MovieTheater" always uses the regular version. Is there a way to use the joja version in changeToTemporaryMap?

[latent mauve]

Not sure if this particular question got answered, but yes, you can just use one mod page and package them together as your uploaded mod file ZIP. SVE does this, for example, to package their C#, CP, and FTM components together

(I would suggest actually setting your update key in each manifest to not be ??? Like SVE though and actually use the same update key for each component's manifest and increment the version number of each part to match when you make updates)

SVE's ??? Update key warning in logs drives me mad

[gaunt orbit]

or just omit the update key field entirely

[latent mauve]

That runs the risk of them not knowing they need to update though

[gaunt orbit]

it'll show up as not having an update key, but SMAPI won't yell at you, and it prevents stradrop from trying to reinstall the mod multiple times when updating

[reef kiln]

I am not at my computer but the Joja theater is a different map then the normal theater isn't it?

[gaunt orbit]

that would only happen if the main part of the mod was not installed though

[latent mauve]

Ok, so you are proposing only excluding the update key from the extra components. That clarification is important.

[gaunt orbit]

ah yeah sorry

[faint ingot]

I don't think so because like I said if I type "debug warp MovieTheater", I get the Joja version if I went Joja (and the response confirms "warping to MovieTheater at..." so it's not just a partial match

[lucid iron]

You can put nexus:???

[gaunt orbit]

maps and locations are different

[lucid iron]

This hids the message from user

[gaunt orbit]

same location does not mean same map

[latent mauve]

It's the same Location but a different map file

[faint ingot]

OK, how can I get the map name of the Joja theater?

[gaunt orbit]

I think it's just the mapname netfield

[latent mauve]

It just pulls the different tilesheet

[gaunt orbit]

sorry mapPath

[latent mauve]

The tbin is still the same IIRC

[gaunt orbit]

ahhh that's trickier then

[latent mauve]

MovieTheatreJoja_Tilesheet is the tilesheet PNG

[gaunt orbit]

yeah but there's no way to swap tilesheets for events

and events make fake location instead of using the real one (except the town, for some reason) so you can't ruse the game's display logic for maps in events

[latent mauve]

Couldn't you change the load for the tilesheet conditionally when in the event?

[gaunt orbit]

(which is why the beach bridge is always broken during the luau)

maybe? I'm not sure how you'd do the conditions for that

you could do a location update patch and include a local copy of the tilesheet, but I'm not sure how you'd determine if the player was in the event or not (without c#)

[uncut viper]

mail flag at the start before you change maps, remove it after the event ends? is that possible

[gaunt orbit]

might work? worth a try

[uncut viper]

when in doubt, mail flag it out

[hot gale]

Scope creep is so real. I just wanted something to do with SVE's Jar of Honey now I have a shop, 2 NPCs, 3 machines, a bunch of custom objects, trash can data, and Im gonna now look into my NPCs sending letters to kick off progression

[faint ingot]

I think it's not a huge deal if I just leave it as the non-joja version considering it's a complex change. Thank you all for the ideas though.

[latent mauve]

(also worth noting, the bridge is not actually broken in Luau year 2, but alternating festival maps are irrelevant to this situation since those have separate tbins for y1 and y2 and the theatre does not)

[hot gale]

not to mention 3 other mods Ive made in the meantime rofl

[shut edge]

the creep chases us all

[gaunt orbit]

scope creep has killed so many of my mods

[shut edge]

every time i do an update i add like 5 more lines of notes

[latent mauve]

I'm gonna have to mailflag a thing for the Flower Dance event anyway to figure out how to conditionally swap a NPC gender for the dance positioning

So I'll have to work that out eventually

[shut edge]

i compartmentalize my stuff best i can

[hot gale]

With the fuel input combinations and iterations that can be made, im potentially adding thousands of items to the game

[gaunt orbit]

the flower dance is Evil Magic

[shut edge]

i'd prefer to have an "unfinished" mod released than work on it forever i suppose

[gaunt orbit]

almost as bad as weddings

[latent mauve]

Ghirahim is the Flower Queen, and I will not have him facing the wrong way.

I went through all that effort to give him the girl's poses. LOL

[shut edge]

https://i.imgur.com/GFJ2B6t.png

maybe it's just a display thing but it's not like, redlining the whole block i commented

[hot gale]

Did you end your /*

[shut edge]

yeah

[hot gale]

I dunno then lel

[shut edge]

https://i.imgur.com/uU3YxZU.png

[reef kiln]

Isn't the dance position based on the players gender not the NPCs. Like player boy they are on the bottom, player girl they are on top. The partner is just opposite right? Am I remembering wrong?

[gaunt orbit]

part of me wants to make a mod that turns weddings into a festival but the rest of me doesn't want to tangle with the end-of-day logic

[gaunt orbit]

comments are not valid json. try setting the language to json5 or yaml

[brittle pasture]

are you using JSONC or JSON5

[shut edge]

ah

that could be it

[silver sand]

Still cackling that babies are technically pets

[latent mauve]

more concerned about when Ghirahim is not the player's partner

[hot gale]

I mean thats not entirely wrong

[shut edge]

make an opposite mod that makes weddings LESS of an event. you just sign some forms at lewis' house

[gaunt orbit]

that's kind of cool actually, and I don't think it would be hard

[latent mauve]

But everytime I've danced with Haley as a girl, Haley's still been up top

[lucid iron]

Well she is

[reef kiln]

Do they dance if not the players partner. I though only vanilla characters danced. Does a mod let non vanilla dance? Because I need it if there is.

[latent mauve]

And since Haley is who Ghirahim replaces....

I'm making a replacer, not custom NPCs, Frog.

(it makes the most sense for my use-case this way)

[uncut viper]

also there's no difference from the games perspective between vanilla NPCs and custom NPCs so they can both dance equally*

*except for that one potential weird bug thing that might imply an unintentional difference somewhere

[shut edge]

yaml has only confused me more, lol. i'll just presume it's working for the moment

i'll test it

[reef kiln]

I wonder if Haley is special? Or I am remembering wrong. Maybe the player is the one that moves and the partner is factor.

[latent mauve]

From what I recall of the event code, NPC girls are always up top and NPC boys are always on the bottom, so the NPCs don't actually move when asked, the farmer does.

(which makes sense, considering that the NPC sprite sheets only have one facing available)

[reef kiln]

Yup, Then I must be remembering wrong. For some reason I thought it was the other way around.

True the sprite sheets would not lie.

[shut edge]

ape applying KISS (keep it simple, stupid)

[latent mauve]

hm

Honestly, I wonder if it might be easier to just replace Ghirahim with a clone that has the opposite gender during the FlowerDance event.

[shut edge]

https://i.imgur.com/XtmbagS.png

ok yeah looks like comment block works, cool

[lucid iron]

I appreciate the effort towards fitting the mammoth within icon size

[uncut viper]

do you mean like a temporary data/characters entry? they won't have the required friendship level to dance

[shut edge]

lol, thanks

[hot gale]

What mod is that?

Seems dope

[latent mauve]

true, there's also the issue of the groups

[shut edge]

the menu is livestock bazaar

[uncut viper]

also i don't think you need mail flags anyway, you can conditionally change the gender based on the current festival and the players current map

[latent mauve]

So back to trying to change it during the festival and location

[uncut viper]

those are CP tokens

[shut edge]

if you meant the menu. most of those animals are my mods

[hot gale]

Oh

Oh my, this is mint

[latent mauve]

Honestly, my biggest gripe is that it also changes the boyfriend/girlfriend signifier

[hot gale]

I meant both really

[uncut viper]

hm

[latent mauve]

But that's probably unavoidable unless you can specifically set the change to happen during the dance event only

[uncut viper]

what happens if you make them temporarily undefined

[shut edge]

the other ones in that screenshot are uhhh resource frogs? or something like that and ice cream cows

[latent mauve]

undefined defaults to female, doesn't it?

I recall that being a thing

[uncut viper]

i don't remember

[latent mauve]

Actually, I can probably tweak their acceptance dialogue to change it right then and there... Hm...

[hot gale]

Now do I focus on mail, and issuing players mail to lead then through progression or focus on utilizing my meads and ciders in cooking recipes to make specialty dishes and/or split the meads into single-serve beverages (Bottle->mug)

[latent mauve]

But that only resolves if they are actually asked to dance.

[uncut viper]

how would the dialogue change their gender

[shut edge]

"while we are dancing, i'm your woman"

[uncut viper]

does it even matter then if they aren't asked to dance tho

[latent mauve]

Trigger Actions

[shut edge]

lore around it lol

[uncut viper]

what would the trigger action do

[latent mauve]

Probably a mailflag, which just gets us back around to the convoluted mailflag solution, which could probably just be done at the start of the event instead.

[uncut viper]

the problem there though is then the update rate, you'd need time changed

BETAS does have a PatchUpdate action though that comes with a dependency ofc, and for something like this I wouldn't recommend it as it's not wholly required to make it work.

[latent mauve]

yeah

I think I'm just gonna have to cope with the tag being changed during the whole event

[uncut viper]

do people usually look in the social menu when at the flower dance anyway, maybe no one will notice

[latent mauve]

I mean, that happens with every other mod that does gender swaps

[shut edge]

i rarely ever even go...

[uncut viper]

i don't look there, I usually know ahead of time if I have the hearts required

[latent mauve]

Most people I know do actually check because they forgot how many hearts they have

_>

But, if nobody else has figured out a solution there might not be one. LOL

[uncut viper]

if I forgor then I just ask em anyway and find out from their answer

there's solutions ofc, just not CP ones as far as I can tell

it'd be dead easy in C#

[shut edge]

solution: "you might see some weird stuff in menus during dance, ignore plz"

[latent mauve]

yeah

[shut edge]

sometimes you just gotta do that tbh

[latent mauve]

I don't know C# and there aren't enough things that I want this mod to do to make it worth me learning

[reef kiln]

Thats a good question. Download one and see. I am curious now if they just lived with them dancing in the wrong spot.

[gaunt orbit]

write a transpilerrrrr I whisper in your ear

[latent mauve]

I meant the "showing up as girlfriend instead of boyfriend", Frog

Not that they're in the wrong spot.

[lucid iron]

Idk i think ghirahem would swap gender for a day just to fuck with you

[dusk mulch]

bump

[reef kiln]

There are a lot of gender swap mods. One of them must have the solution. If not then it must not be possible.

[shut edge]

look the only option now is to just write a whole new game

[uncut viper]

this wouldn't even require a transpiler i don't think depending on how clean or messy you were content with doing it

[shut edge]

clearly the sensible thing to do

[latent mauve]

Honestly, yes, it's totally like Ghirahim to be like "I wanted to be the Flower Queen and apparently you have to be female for that, so for today, I am female! Gender is an amorphous construct that I, as a sword, can change at will."

[shut edge]

hell yeah

[latent mauve]

Fi and Ghirahim are literally sword spirits, what is gender in that situation, really, other than the way they choose to manifest themselves.

Since Mipha's gonna be on the opposite end of that Flower Dance gender swap (Harvey), I can throw in a line about them trading places or something to not mess up the lineup. LOL

I'm amazed those are the only two that I had to do genderswap shenanigans with to make the replacements work, honestly.

[reef kiln]

Well if the farmer moves for the dance anyway, the line is not really sex specific anyway.

[latent mauve]

Would this be about right for the patch condition?"When": { "DayEvent":"flower dance", "LocationName":"Temp"}, "Update":"OnLocationChange"

I can't actually find the Location entry for the Flower Festival, so I'm guessing it's Temp.

changeToTemporaryMap Forest-FlowerFestival and that line from the event setup seems to confirm that possibly

[shut edge]

updated a mod and nexus isn't updating the download page smdh

aha, complaining fixed it, as i hoped

[latent mauve]

Unless it's still just Forest, in which case I'll have to add the time range too, which is annoying.

(the event precondition is Forest/900 1400, so I'll just convert that into the When block if I must)

[shut edge]

https://i.imgur.com/lefbL22.png

damn i was hoping an update would make this work properly but no, now it's just more confusing

[uncut viper]

that command does actually change the literal GameLocation you're in so it should be Temp

[latent mauve]

awesome

[last plume]

Howdy! I know it’s been ages since I talked here. I decided to take an extended break from stardew valley and modding as a whole as I was experiencing burnout.

But I’m feeling much better and I am ready to make my comeback.

Hope all is well.

[swift falcon]

glad to hear you're feeling better!

[last plume]

Yea. I just had to take a step back as I was experiencing burnout and I am feeling ready to return

[lucid iron]

@fathom rapids re: your bug report to trinket tinker on nexus, if you dont mind can i have your save file?

[fathom rapids]

you can have a copy uwu im still using the original

[shut edge]

https://i.imgur.com/ykoV2Ti.png

is this floorID thing like, doing anything?

[shadow pagoda]

Is there a way to see Trace lines in the console log while the game is running? I can see them when I upload the log to the log parser. https://smapi.io/log/6a91c0b7f4ff486f8e81f74b919c54c5?Levels=trace~debug~info~warn~error~alert~critical

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 17 C# mods and 0 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[dusk mulch]

If I don't want to make a new EditData, can I just close this and make a new entry?

[uncut viper]

install SMAPI for developers edition, or tweak the smapi internal config file which is... somewhere. the smapi-internal folder maybe

[uncut viper]

yes

[latent mauve]

In theory, it'd be making it so you can change the flooring on that tile (as well as all the other ones with the "Middle" ID), as long as your overall Map Property has that as a valid FloorID listed and your location is Decoratable

[shut edge]

ahh

so if i don't want it decoratable, just remove it?

[latent mauve]

If your location's not decoratable, then it shouldn't do anything, yeah.

[shut edge]

cool

[arctic oxide]

If i were to start editing the ocean farm map and wanted to include freshwater fish on one side, would I need to edit the "Farm_Beach" section of the locations.json directly or could I add custom map properties? new to map editing so just curious lol

[tender bloom]

I would recommend the first approach

Notably, having different fish in different places is I believe best done through Locations.json

You can use the feature where you just copy the fish from another place into a specific sub area, or you can directly define the fish, iirc

[dusk mulch]

Is there a way to make location specific dialogue to be 1 time so you can't just infinitely chat with them?

[hallow prism]

not that i know of

you can try using queries, but you'll have some limitation either way

[dusk mulch]

Alright then, It is fine. Thank you!

[lucid iron]

is there a good way to make default dict in a custom asset

i basically want Field/TargetField to immediately work even if the key was never touched before

[dusk mulch]

Do I need to set a Fish field for my location data for there to be fish? Or will it just use a default selection of fish if there is one

[brittle pasture]

just init them yourself I think

that's what I did for the animal extension dict, populate it with a list of all Data/FarmAnimals entries

[lucid iron]

i dont know all of them

it is monster data so the name is a suggestion

[brittle pasture]

so you don't have an existing list? I don't think that's solved (see: blank events load)

[lucid iron]

that one is a whole asset tho hmm

[brave fable]

with C# you could add an asset listener to Data/Monsters to add an entry to your own asset for each one found

[brittle pasture]

that is what I suggested

[lucid iron]

https://docs.python.org/3/library/collections.html#collections.defaultdict let me snek pls

the actual key isnt Data/Monsters tho, its Monster.Name

which is not strongly coupled for ✨ reasons

[brave fable]

won't monster name match an entry in data/monsters

[brittle pasture]

this might need a change to CP tbh

[lucid iron]

🫠

[brave fable]

god i love monsters

[lucid iron]

nou

u two are right tho, having it fill in Data/Monsters is at least better than nothing

[rancid musk]

I'm glad I haven't touched monsters at all for anything.

[teal bridge]

I touched it only for a silly simple demo thing and it still nearly drove me insane.

[brave fable]

mod authors: why can't you just be normal
monsters: batScreech

[cyan venture]

i18n is something

my code is very clean for now thanks to i18n

[shadow pagoda]

Is there a way to know how many slots a bundle can accept for items? Like the spring crops one allows 4, but the quality crop one allows only 3

[cyan venture]

i think you can add it no matter how

[brave fable]

yep, in the raw legacy data it's set in index 4: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Bundles
other than that, it does exist as a field in the standard bundle data model (not that it seems to be detailed on the wiki)

[modest pumice]

Hi! I'm updating my old mod from JA to CP and I can't get the textures to load in. I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong. I see other mods just using "Texture": "Mods/{{ModId}}/Objects", but that isn't working for me. Do I need to put in the whole path to the file? I tried that and it didn't work either

[brittle pasture]

you must first load something to that Texture path

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/stable/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-load.md

if you have a png named objects.png in your assets folder, you would do something like

{
    "Format": "2.5.0",
    "Changes": [
        {
            "Action": "Load",
            "Target": "Mods/{{ModId}}/Objects",
            "FromFile": "assets/objects.png"
        },
    ]
}

then you can use "Texture": "Mods/{{ModId}}/Objects" in your object data

[modest pumice]

thank you, I'll do that!

[shadow pagoda]

Just to make sure I understand, there is a 4th index that modders could use in order to specify how many distinct items are needed to complete a bundle, but that info isn't used for vanilla (for neither regular or remixed) bundles like this Spring Crop data?

"Pantry/0": "Spring Crops/O 465 20/24 1 0 188 1 0 190 1 0 192 1 0/0///Spring Crops"

I should specify I am using C# to parse this data, and not planning on modifying it myself

[brave fable]

i should mention there already exists a method for parsing raw legacy bundle data to a readable data model

[shadow pagoda]

yes, I am using pathos' lookup mod as a guide

[brave fable]

though i don't have the codebase on hand atm

[shadow pagoda]

but I don't see anything related to that within their BundleModel record

[brave fable]

if you follow the breadcrumbs from DataLoader.Bundles you should find it

preferably use the vanilla code as a reference here

[shadow pagoda]

will do, thanks

[rare orbit]

it's allowed to put major updates in mod showcase right?

[brave fable]

try poking around Game1.netWorldState.Value.BundleData and look for references to the data model there

[rancid musk]

Yeah, major updates can go in mod showcase.

[brave fable]

for sure, anything you think people would be interested in can be showcased, following the rules of course

[rancid musk]

Just don't get too spammy about it.

[brave fable]

check out the pins in #mod-showcase if you're unsure ☀️

if you're also just checking for any inventory items that are required for any bundles, there's a base game method for checking that. it might be in GameMenu, there's the inventory bundle icon clickable that glows when hovering a bundle item. you could filter down all inventory items based on this, if that's all you need

[rancid musk]

(On a related note, GameMenu runs this code in its constructor.) ```cs
Game1.RequireLocation<CommunityCenter>("CommunityCenter").refreshBundlesIngredientsInfo();

[rare orbit]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/31520

[cyan venture]

hi, when i compiled my code it always contain other dll like this. Is it normal?

[shadow pagoda]

Yeah, I tried that before. Though it didn't work for some reason. Maybe the way I was using it was wrong? Here's the message to that if you're interested. #making-mods-general message I'm currently using the lookup mod as a guide as it seems to have everything I need with some tweaks needed here and there

[rancid musk]

That means your project isn't configured correctly.

[tribal ore]

Looking great, Nikki!

[cunning kiln]

Where can I find the internal ID for the I Voted Sticker? I checked Objects, Fish (since you fish it out of the water), and the Stardew Vanilla IDs website without success.

[rancid musk]

For each of your external mod references, you need to set Private to false

That will stop the DLLs from being included.

[gentle rose]

is that from a mod? I don't remember anything called that in vanilla stardew valley

[cyan venture]

in VS setting or in my code?

[rancid musk]

... yes. It's in your .csproj file but you can also do it using the Properties panel and the Solution explorer.

[cunning kiln]

Huh. Let me look at some mods. Thanks!

[rancid musk]

Whichever method you're more familiar with really.

(Doing it in Solution Explorer + Properties is just VS editing your csproj for you.)

[reef kiln]

Yup, I is from one of the ES mods. I think Rodney but not 100% sure.

[gentle rose]

using lookup anything in game is probably the best way to check

[lucid iron]

i dont think you should be referencing content patcher dll and gmcm dll like this

[cunning kiln]

I don't have ES installed, but I do have SVE, which I'm guessing is the culprit.

[cyan venture]

i add CP and GMCM directly from add Project Ref

[lucid iron]

i think i voted is more fish?

[cyan venture]

haha

[primal cypress]

@uncut viper Hello, spider buttons. I need help with Arbitrary Tilesheet Access as my tilesheets are not pathing. I have it as content(unpacked) > Maps > Content > Mod sheets. here is my Log , thank you

[ocean sail]

Log found, uploaded to: https://smapi.io/log/20ee4062ff194b6b8a45460ebb31ee4d

[lucid iron]

one of those

[brittle pasture]

yep, more new fish

anyway as mentioned, lookup anything

[tiny zealot]

looking for knowledge anyone may have about weird and potentially platform-divergent behavior in SpriteText.getStringBrokenIntoSectionsOfHeight.
i'm investigating some text not appearing on macOS and this TODO i left myself seems relevant:

                // TODO find a better way than "+8" to get this value.
                // using exactly the getHeight value doesn't work; probably
                // exactly the size or oboe, so the split fails to get text
                int linecap = SpriteText.getHeightOfString("Ag") + 8;
                List<string> lines = SpriteText.getStringBrokenIntoSectionsOfHeight(
                        menu.mailMessage[0], menu.width - 64, linecap);```

[cyan venture]

i dont familiar with VS much

[reef kiln]

It is not ES that installs it. I am pretty sure it is one of ES addon. If I am wrong sorry.

[gentle rose]

text height my beloathed

[cunning kiln]

Well, lookup anything doesn't give me a mod name, but I think that's true for more new fish. Thanks, everyone!

[gentle rose]

would that make the text not appear at all though?

[reef kiln]

Just did a Google search. It is more new fish that adds it.

[lucid iron]

its not really a VS thing, SMAPI provide ways for you to access some stuff via api instead of hard dll reference

[tiny zealot]

apparently i found that "the split fails to get text", so i imagine so

[rancid musk]

You'll want to select those mods you referenced, and then set Copy Local to No in the Properties window.

[brittle pasture]

you can enable data mining fields, it should show the full internal item id

not every mod follows the ModId underscore style, but most of them should (hopefully) have their ID/author in there somewhere

in this case it has MNF in the ID

[rancid musk]

Also, can I ask why you have a hard reference to Generic Mod Config Menu? That seems unusual and unnecessary.

[cunning kiln]

Very cool, thanks!

[cyan venture]

i read some tutorial in google

[cunning kiln]

Not sure about the etiquette for contacting a mod author about permission to use one of their assets. Is that something I would just post in comments on Nexus?

[cyan venture]

so they said i need to add ref from this

[lucid iron]

who said this

[cyan venture]

and i just see dll so i used it

well it just VS basic tutorial not from SDV

[rancid musk]

Which tutorial?

[cyan venture]

i didnt remember

haha

[gentle rose]

general question about hard referencing DLLs, does it fail if the user organises their mod folder differently, or does smapi load all the dlls in a consistent way instead

[cyan venture]

uhm no

[uncut viper]

Setting up the path as Content/Mod sheets/Spring/hime_outdoorfurniture.png just makes Tiled set the path correctly for my mod to read it. But it does not actually take the file you're pointing it to. It still needs to be a valid asset name. You need the path after Content/ to match whatever hime has set as their Target for loading their tilesheet

[lucid iron]

theres a search path thingy i think

[gentle rose]

nexus has a permissions section, what does that say? you may not need to

[rancid musk]

Generally you're required to put those mods in your dependencies so SMAPI should load them first anyways.

(Well, not required to put them there, but if you don't you're doing things incorrectly.)