making-mods-general

[final folio]

I know, but basically the game files use almost the same properties as a mod in swampi, maybe I'm doing something wrong, or I don't know

[dusk mulch]

Oh, I didn't see that.

And I don't want to

[final folio]

That's a bad joke on my part, I couldn't think of a better name than that, could it be because of that?

[uncut viper]

that's my point. few people here would know either if you're doing something wrong or if its a switch modding intricacy.

[final folio]

It is literally a change from a suit to a tuxedo

[uncut viper]

(not saying you cant ask for help regardless of course, just, yknow, dont be surprised if no one pipes up)

[final folio]

Ohh

[final folio]

I understand, I understand, I will keep trying to see what I can achieve, thank you very much anyway!
You never lose anything by asking

[shadow pagoda]

wanna try bumping this one more time just in case other people haven't seen this

[cyan venture]

hi guys, anyone know where this string is?

i cant find it

[dusk mulch]

that shows robins portrait when its said, right?

[cyan venture]

yes

the one when we upgrade the farmhouse

[dusk mulch]

then it should be in robins dialogue

i think

[cyan venture]

it in content folder?

i cant find it in ILSpy

[dusk mulch]

have you unpacked the content?

[cyan venture]

yes

[tiny zealot]

./Data/ExtraDialogue.json: "Robin_HouseUpgrade_Accepted": "Thank you! I'll get started tomorrow. I should be finished in around three days.",

[hard fern]

(ur so fast ichor)

[tiny zealot]

grep is fast. i'm just the delivery boy

[dusk mulch]

Yeah I can't see it either

[dusk mulch]

Oh

[hard fern]

I just have an encyclopedias knowledge of all the dialogue at this point

I remember seeing it in extra dialogue

[cyan venture]

im

skill issued or something

i still cant find it

oh yea right

in content

i forgot

[tidal stone]

i just opened my map in tiled to edit it again and idk what happened but like

[brave fable]

what happens in the ovvievies house

[hard fern]

Uh oh

[brave fable]

really though you have a Lot of Problems here

[hard fern]

Did the index for the tiles get munched or something

[brave fable]

was there a popup when you reopened Tiled along the lines of 'width of tilesheet image in tileset has changed. would you like to adjust it for the new width? yes/no'

[dusk mulch]

jeez actually trying to make a big mod and get it just right is so hard and tiring, my i18n has 94 lines and i am NOWHERE near done

[brave fable]

get it done first, get it just right eventually

[tidal stone]

i fixed it

i accidentally had . in front of spring outdoors that made it unable to find the file

[rigid musk]

I get it Person.. I truly do lmao

Every time someone finds a broken translation string in I die a little inside because it requires another update to fix it

And with 1.6k lines... theres been a fair few of those

[cyan venture]

uh oh

i dont know why but i accidently remove the dialogue

[rigid musk]

wuh

[dusk mulch]

and this is only my 3rd NPC and the other 2 are nowhere near done and i still have another to make and i still have to make the events

[tidal stone]

u h oh

what uh what file is v16 shadow in

[dusk mulch]

./Maps

[tidal stone]

i cant find it

[urban patrol]

it's probably called spring_Shadows or similar

the tilesheet names and the png names don't always match

[calm nebula]

If you click on the tilesheet you can see the image path

[rigid musk]

it'll be okay you got this

[tidal stone]

i ireeperably broke the map again im gonna cry

[brave fable]

please do not irreparably break the map

[dusk mulch]

AND i need to make the spouse patios, and other marriage stuff

[tidal stone]

it wants me to get the town.png tback that has animated water and everythign but thats the tmx and i cant grab that anymore so its like

[urban patrol]

can you send your file in here?

[tidal stone]

uh oh

[brave fable]

do you mean TSX rather than TMX?

[tidal stone]

yea

i guess

idk

i was editing the vanilla map

[dusk mulch]

Why is there a pierre drop box in his shop but it doesnt do anything?

[hard fern]

It does things

Secret order

[calm nebula]

It's used for special orders

[urban patrol]

what do you mean it doesn't do anything?

[dusk mulch]

Oh

I didnt know it was used for a secret order

[hard fern]

(oopsz special oreer)

[urban patrol]

did you make a copy of the vanilla map to edit?

[brave fable]

you can just reopen Town and export the town tileset from that map, then use the Replace Tileset button to swap out your current town tileset for the exported version

[tidal stone]

ooh ok ok lemme try

[cyan venture]

how can i merge CP with my C# mod guys

[uncut viper]

you dont. they must be two separate mods, as far as smapi is concerned

but they can both be packaged inside one parent folder

[cyan venture]

like a folder contain CP and dll

[uncut viper]

you cannot

[cyan venture]

hmm

ok

[uncut viper]

they can only be packaged separately but together

each one gets its own manifest and each one needs a different uniqueid

[cyan venture]

so i have to make them separate mod

[uncut viper]

the ModBuildConfig nuget package can auto package your CP mod with your C# mod in its release zip

[cyan venture]

okay so that why i cant change Robin Dialogue

[lucid iron]

hm i dont seem to be allowed to nest local tokens

can i even use another token in a local token

[uncut viper]

yes

[latent mauve]

As a note for those with multiple mod components packaged together: they can, according to the wiki, share an update key but the version numbers must be identical across all manifests if doing so.

[uncut viper]

them not being identical wont break anything i believe but it will cause the update notice to incorrectly tell you when you need an update if not

[latent mauve]

Yeah

[dusk mulch]

ok i think i have FINALLY finished my 1st NPC... now to get the other 3 right

[lucid iron]

but i dont seem to be allowed to give another local token from outer scope to inner

[uncut viper]

do you mean the inner is an include

[lucid iron]

yea

i am attempt for for

[uncut viper]

like the localtoken is defined on the Include patch and then inside that included file you are using another localtoken

that should work

i would think

[lucid iron]

me too but it didnt

[uncut viper]

my confident yes though was re: a token inside a localtoken

not a localtoken inside a localtoken

[lucid iron]

fair nuff

yea hm theres no error but patch summary says
Include data/spouse.json > Include data/inc/child.json #1 // invalid tokens: LL@Spouse

[uncut viper]

did you name your localtoken LL@Spouse

[lucid iron]

attempt is

{
  "Action": "Include",
  "FromFile": "data/spouse.json",
  "LocalTokens": {
    "LL@Spouse": "Abigail"
  }
}

and then inside spouse.json

{
  "Action": "Include",
  "FromFile": "data/inc/child.json",
  "LocalTokens": {
    "L@Spouse": "{{LL@Spouse}}",
    "L@Seq": "A",
    "L@Hair": "Boy",
    "L@Eyes": "light"
  }
},

my other attempt is to not have L@Spouse in the data/inc/child.json and that one threw warnings

[uncut viper]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

i dont have much input here that looks right to me

[lucid iron]

@ivory plume can i use a local token in the include of an include

[tiny zealot]

i am vaguely remembering pathos being worried about CP becoming a vector for fork bombs

[lucid iron]

why would doing for/for become fork bomb

[tiny zealot]

(it was this, about doing foreach-type stuff)

[ivory plume]

Yep. All patches loaded through an Include patch inherit its local tokens, and that applies recursively (so an included included included patch has access to all the local tokens defined by a parent patch).

[lucid iron]

what am i do wrong then

[ivory plume]

Not sure, I'd need to look into it.

[lucid iron]

https://smapi.io/log/833e7625c07c4444875c05107a1f8a64

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Unix 6.13.4.1, with 29 C# mods and 24 content packs.

[lucid iron]

this is without intermediate "L@Spouse": "{{LL@Spouse}}",

https://github.com/Mushymato/HaveMoreKids/tree/main/[CP] Lumisteria Toddlers

[ivory plume]

Could you create a minimal repro content pack and post a bug report on GitHub?

[lucid iron]

yea sure

[faint grail]

Hi everyone, do you know how I can change the maximum number of hearts available for NPCs?
Can I do this with Content Patcher?

[reef kiln]

You mean you want to have more then a 10 heart limit?

[faint grail]

yes

[uncut viper]

aside from making them romanceable for 14 hearts, that's not something you can do with content patcher

[faint grail]

But you can change the heart limit without using the content patcher

[uncut viper]

anything is possible with enough c#

[reef kiln]

Is the trout derby shop editable with CP? Does it count as a shop? Can I add stuff to the prize list?

[brittle pasture]

no

[reef kiln]

Shoot, I was watching a YouTube video and the person said they wanted to mod that did that, and I thought, that's a really good idea. Oh well.

[ornate locust]

hard-coded trout

[brave fable]

largemouth players 🥱

[lucid iron]

roundabout way would be to simply make a shop that takes tags

[tender bloom]

you just repeatedly interact tho right?

like you don't get a choice about prizes

[lucid iron]

yea so

[tender bloom]

(i mean you get the choice between redeem and no redeem, not pick which prize)

[lucid iron]

make a separate vending machine

[tender bloom]

so it's all secretly questions, not even shop format at all

[reef kiln]

Correct, I cycles through the same 10 prizes in rotation

[ornate locust]

spreaking of, goddamn but the wall fish prize is huge

[lucid iron]

trout is bigger than pig

[reef kiln]

They are not even very good prizes. It would be nice to edit and add to the list. A vending machine would work I guess as a work around. I will think about it.

[tender bloom]

it's BIG trout

[ornate locust]

I wanted to put one up on a wall, but that'd take up way too much wall

on a map, I mean

[tender bloom]

i put them on the wall so i don't have to store them

i am not a good decorator

[lucid iron]

just get more wall

[brave fable]

is this a call for resident evil block-based inventory systems again

[tender bloom]

whenever i get unwanted wall art i just slap it on an out of the way wall

same for furniture

[ornate locust]

I did this instead

slap a trout on some driftwood on a plaque, bam

and it's a rainbow trout, so it's shinier

I was seriously about to see if I could add it to the prize pool but welp

[uncut viper]

you can add it to the prize pool, if you just overwrite the Data/Objects entry for something else to completely replace it

[brave fable]

as you merrily do

[ornate locust]

I guess I could overwrite the huge fish :V

[latent mauve]

If someone's super bored and cared to look into the code, it looks like the Trout Derby shop calls Action TroutDerbyBooth

[uncut viper]

it doesnt matter. its just a list of items it generates at runtime

[latent mauve]

Ah, I see

[latent mauve]

I wasn't sure if there was a way to even find the generated items

[uncut viper]

same with the squidfest, more or less

all the Action does is bring up the question dialogue

to ask if you want rewards, an explanation, or to leave

[latent mauve]

gotcha

[rancid musk]

@final arch Hey there! I'm just looking into mods that will have compatibility issues with the yet unreleased Better Game Menu when I release it at the end of the month, and World Maps everywhere is on my list.

I'm reaching out to let you know and offer my assistance if necessary. From what I gather, that mod isn't open source, but I'd be happy to try my hand at writing a PR if you do publish the source. Otherwise, I'm glad to answer questions about my API and work with you and anyone else to get compatibility fixed with everything.

[latent mauve]

Then yeah, seems like a custom exchange counter would be the thing to do

I was pondering the option of a trigger action to tack an AddItem on like a bonus prize if there was a way to connect those, but my brain can't parse that right now either.

[uncut viper]

tbh just replace the Action TroutDerbyBooth with Action OpenShop and replace the question dialogue entirely

[latent mauve]

yeah, just remove the prize randomization element and make it a choice

Which then lets you add items since it's a shop

[uncut viper]

yeah, with a tradeitem

i dont think most people would really care about the Explanation part of the current question dialogue

[rancid musk]

(Also Button I got bored and wrote a PR for Special Power Utilities lol, it's so simple)

[uncut viper]

they probably dont need it if theyre installing a mod for more derby rewards

[latent mauve]

Even if they did, you might be able to put a very brief Explanation in as the shop dialogue

Or just make it a sign next to the stall

[uncut viper]

if you PR it then i could get it merged and an update out on nexus tomorrow then

[rancid musk]

It's there now, you might not like the code style part, but that's easy to clean up 😄

[uncut viper]

i dont even like the code stylef or the parts that i wrote anymore so i might just be lazy and leave it

SPU is old im not happy with any of it lmao. due for a rewrite at some point

[final arch]

... oh I somehow forgot that, was only thinking about event lookup. Ill check it out and let you know when I have questions!
Does NPC Map Loc already have compat? I do patch some of its stuff

[uncut viper]

("old" by my standards aka i wrote it when i barely understood C# stuff)

(or best practices for... most things)

[rancid musk]

I've got a PR up for NPC Map Loc already 😄

[rancid musk]

I did notice Special Power Utilities had some spicy draw() times compared to the vanilla menu, lol

[uncut viper]

tbf, 90% of it is copied from the collections page

[rancid musk]

Ah yes, the worst performing individual page of the game's menu system 😄

lol

[uncut viper]

in fact the draw() function might be entirely copied from it, save for the unlockable bundles compat

tbh id like to rewrite it with Stardew UI at some point

[ornate locust]

the ultimate power of being able to mod away anything that mildly bugs you

[rancid musk]

Alright. Wrote a few PRs tonight and released a new build of BGM with a few fixes and a new feature. Time to relax and do nothing the rest of the night.

[fierce vault]

Any thoughts on whether bad dialogue responses to npc questions should be first in the list or not? I think it would be funny to have it as the default, but I could see how it might upset players who accidentally tap it and then feel like they need to resart the day. And where do you think the best option should be situated?

[tame lion]

anyone‌ knows which mod support using Context_Tags to make cooking recipes？

[ornate locust]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/32145 I have ensmallened the fish deco.

[urban patrol]

does anyone know if there's some kind of issue with moving NPCs only one tile on the x axis during events? i've run into this issue during two different events now, where he just decides to keep moving for no reason. he does this with and without the y-axis move following it.

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/3bc5495b68554f92a3cd5921e268dabf

relevant bit: /move EdwinPayne -1 0 2/move EdwinPayne 0 1 2/proceedPosition EdwinPayne/animate EdwinPayne false true 120 19/pause 1500/

[vernal crest]

positionOffset problem, I think.

Do you warp him to reset him after using positionOffset and before using move?

[urban patrol]

oops sorry, this is for the 7 heart event one--i don't use positionOffset during it

although that will definitely help solve it for the 2 heart one, thank you

i have no idea if this is related, but i also noticed that after the event, Charles ends up in HaleyHouse for some reason, even though that's nowhere in his schedule on any day

[vernal crest]

Ah right sorry on mobile so it's hard to read the scripts.

[urban patrol]

no worries

would it be easier if i sent a word-wrap screenshot for you?

[vernal crest]

This is probably not related but you shouldn't need to use proceedPosition because move pauses the event while moving by default.

[urban patrol]

oh okay cool

i can try it with that taken out

[vernal crest]

Probably not, I'd need to use linkoid's multilining plugin to multiline your event to read it properly and I can't use my computer right now.

[rancid musk]

... I just found a content pack mod that is shipping a DLL file with no code in it, lol

[versed wyvern]

It looks like he tries to move south for a single frame before walking into the bookshelf, I dunno if that's relevant

[urban patrol]

do you think that's because i have his first move action end in direction 2?

[royal stump]

(probably unrelated, but that event script has a couple lines that say (break) before a command? )

[urban patrol]

yeah it's part of quickQuestion

[royal stump]

ah, yeah, I see it on the wiki now, my mistake

looked like a wordpad formatting thing

[urban patrol]

haha

[vernal crest]

You could try putting a pause in front of and after the x=-1 move command, see if that affects anything.

[urban patrol]

alright one sec

any length, or a significant amount of time?

[vernal crest]

Significant enough to make it clear what command is happening at each point.

[uncut viper]

( was Item.ConsumeStack(int amount) a thing added in 1.6.9?)

(sad, decompile repo-less button)

[rancid musk]

Think that was 1.6 in general any not .9

[urban patrol]

no effect. i put a pause of 1000, and i could see him pause, but he walked two tiles left

[vernal crest]

Not sure if this is related to the movement but you need to put your portrait commands at the end of dialogue lines, not at the beginning. Stuff breaks if they're at the start.

[urban patrol]

uh oh lol good to know

let me go fix all of those in case that's the issue

[uncut viper]

hm. i guess maybe MuseumMenu just got updated to use it in 1.6.9 instead. i was goin side by side with my museum framework menu and noticed it was different now

[urban patrol]

what about with breaks?

[uncut viper]

(well i say now. it would have been different for months. but i last worked on this before 1.6.9, so)

[urban patrol]

"blah blah#$b#blah blah$6"? or put the $6 after the #$b#?

[vernal crest]

The hashes indicate the end of a line, so they go before the hash that's in front of the $b/$e

[rancid musk]

(Why don't you get cheeto and request access?)

[brave fable]

added in early 1.6, actually

[uncut viper]

i dont like orange

thats literally the entire reason

[brave fable]

you don't need a decompile repo, you just need to have decompiled the game every time it updated 😌

[uncut viper]

decompile repo at home...

[brave fable]

exists in 1.6.0.23100, but not in 1.5.6

[rancid musk]

You could probably just... ask for access anyways. I mean we know you've made mods, and you've got the level.

[uncut viper]

poor museummenu forgotten til 8 months later

[brave fable]

i've tried that already hahah, you do actually need the mod author role to get repo access

they're wise to our ways

[uncut viper]

i remember reading at one point a Pathos message that said there can be exceptions added to the list however because its synced with the wiki or smth its a bit extra work to keep the exceptions in check, and i didnt think it worth giving Pathos extra work when i dont ever need the repo

(the message was also before my time i think, too, so that might even be out of date anyway and exceptions might no longer be offered)

[urban patrol]

alright, i fixed all my $, but unfortunately that didn't fix the move command

[vernal crest]

Is it his first move in the event?

[uncut viper]

oh museummenu actually changed more than just that too... functionally equivalent but still changed. interesting

[royal stump]

fwiw, public Item ConsumeStack(int amount) was added in 1.6, but changed signatures to public virtual Item? ConsumeStack(int amount) in 1.6.9, which is also when museummenu started using it, yeah

[brave fable]

if anything the workload's tripled since then

[urban patrol]

yep, he has a faceDirection before that but not a move

[uncut viper]

probably why museummenu (and others i imagine) started using it now, instead of decrementing heldItem and checking for stack < 0 to become null

makes things easier for sure

[dusk mulch]

yk i wonder how the NPC's see us modders, watching us warp and twist their world to our whim

[vernal crest]

I don't know what's up so my suggestions are just things to try to see what changes. So try using advancedMove instead?

[urban patrol]

time to learn how to use that one lol

[tidal stone]

the layer in tiled go down to up right like
Always front
Buildings
Front1
Front
Back1
Back

[vernal crest]

Easier than it first looks for just one small movement, though if it fixes the issue for the left movement you could then add the Y axis walking and get rid of the down move.

[vernal crest]

Buildings is between back and front but otherwise yes.

[tidal stone]

ohh that might be why things are being weird about layers then

[vernal crest]

I don't know if their order in tiled affects how they work in game but it's most useful to have them in the order that the game uses them regardless I think.

Because then it's a built in reminder of how their draw order works.

[uncut viper]

(man refreshing my memory on my museum framework has made me realize just how badly timed for me the halloween mod contest was haha. i was like... 1, maybe 1.5 little steps/features away from it just being done)

[brave fable]

on the plus side your halloween mod did turn out amazing tho

[urban patrol]

it was apparently related to it being the first move command--using advancedMove moves him the correct number of x spaces, and now the y move amount has increased to 2, lol. i guess i just have to always either use advancedMove or else move people more than 1 tile?

[vernal crest]

Strange. Maybe move doesn't like single tile moves or something, I don't know. I don't think I've heard of that being an issue before but maybe it is just if it's the first move in an event or the first after a faceDirection or something.

[urban patrol]

maybe i'll write a fake event to test it lol, because that's so strange and i want to know why but don't have the knowledge to puzzle it out from code

[urban patrol]

anyway, i'm done for the night but going to bump this in case anyone knows why this would happen

[dusk mulch]

You have got to be kidding me. Why is there no dialogue key for Location X_Y Hearts

[urban patrol]

use hearts as the key but then write a string for the schedule

[vernal crest]

I've no idea but maybe try it at different times and on different days and see if anything changes? You can use debug ebi to bypass any preconditions that might require it to be at specific times or whatever.

[dusk mulch]

I can't carry the key across to the schedule, can I?

[urban patrol]

i don't know what you mean by this

[vernal crest]

You could use a $query in a location_x_y key to check for heart level.

[dusk mulch]

I did not even know that existed, that makes it much easier. Thank you!

[vernal crest]

You can put schedule strings anywhere but I don't know if you can use an existing dialogue key inside a schedule as opposed to writing a key specifically for the schedule.

[dusk mulch]

Would I put the $query inside of the i18n string or inside of the dialogue string?

[deep cypress]

How do you figure out if the mouse is hovering over a certain item?

[vernal crest]

You can do either, but it's safest from accidental breakage during translation to put it in the dialogue file and have two i18n keys, one for when the query is true and one for false.

[tidal stone]

I need to set up central station as a mod dependancy at some point but idk if i should do it last or not

[dusk mulch]

Well I would suggest doing it now because the longer you put it off it may become more difficult

[deep cypress]

Basically, I am trying to figure out how to figure out if the cursor is hovering over a crab pot or not.

[tidal stone]

ill set it up after i make sure these 3 outdoor maps look correct then

ok time to set up

[dusk mulch]

Should I be mean and add 1 line of random scary text?

[latent mauve]

I have had to add a pause after a faceDirection and before a move to fix continual movement weirdness in the past, but I forget the reason why it helped.

[tidal stone]

Pathoschild.CentralStation_TicketMachine <x> <y> [networks]
anyone know about map poroperties /and or central station and know how to input this?

idk how to break it up for the custom property thing

wait i think its network?

maybe imma try it

[latent mauve]

Networks is Boat, Bus, Train, or multiple networks.

[royal stump]

Literally speaking, the game seems to do it like this:

Vector2 position = ((!Game1.wasMouseVisibleThisFrame) ? Game1.player.GetToolLocation() : new Vector2(Game1.getOldMouseX() + Game1.viewport.X, Game1.getOldMouseY() + Game1.viewport.Y));
var obj = location.getObjectAt((int)position.X, (int).position.Y);

But depending on context, you might want to try one of these:

• Patch StardewValley.Object.hoverAction() and check the object ID to see if it's a crab pot
• Call farmer.GetToolLocation() to get the tile the player is targeting (limited to their click/tool range), then location.objects.TryGetObject(tile, out obj) to check for an object there and ID it
  (notably, getObjectAt and such will prioritize furniture over "normal" objects)

Though having said all that, hoverAction might only get called when something is in range, too. If you need screen-wide support, just checking the mouse variables may be the way to go.

[tidal stone]

im trying to set up my own ticket machine and i feel so silly lol

[latent mauve]

Which networks do you need? Is it a bus stop, a train stop, or a boat stop?

[tidal stone]

bus stop

i cant figure out how to do tile specific properties

[latent mauve]

So you'd do something like Pathoschild.CentralStation_TicketMachine <x> <y> Bus as the map property

With x and y being where you want the machine to spawn

[tidal stone]

would this mean i dont need to put a machine down or would it be just information version of the machine

[latent mauve]

And for a tileData object, you would need Action CentralStation Bus if you wanted your own sprite instead, I think. Map property is easier if you want the Central Station default sprite.

I think the Map Property makes the machine appear.

[tidal stone]

time to find out if i did it right XD

ies

[latent mauve]

?

[tidal stone]

i was keyowrd searching something my bad XD

[latent mauve]

LOL

[tidal stone]

i do not know off the bat what im missing in my manifest can someone spare a glance?
https://smapi.io/json/manifest/21af205b65c040da9b5fcc26c57c4ec9

[latent mauve]

You have an extra { }, around the "ContentPackFor" data

https://smapi.io/json/manifest/0927abc343134f9c863432d27cffc70b

[tidal stone]

oh, thank you

[latent mauve]

Also just FYI, explore is missing the final e in your description

[tidal stone]

im wonderful as spelling

possible reason for errors (i have been misspelling my unique id for )

i really chose my antiword

im so confused

what goes in the 'example' slot of the words

i must do research

[versed wyvern]

I think it's because you misspelled Neighborhood in your manifest's uniqueID?

[tidal stone]

i fixed that

still getting this message 😔

i think the id it wants isnt complete

because it says "example.modID_stopID"

so example. must be something i just dont know what

[uncut viper]

your id has a slash in front of it for some reason

[tidal stone]

oh is that not supposded to be there ill remove it then

maybe thatll make it work

[uncut viper]

"Example.ModId" is just an example uniqueid

Author.ModName, Example.ModId, KandiKraze.TheNeighborhood

all unique ids

[tidal stone]

oooooh

[dusk mulch]

just got dark mode extension, the wiki is so much easier on the eyes

[tidal stone]

HMMM, it doesnt make you go directly to the central station first, not what i wanted

tme to read the guide again

[dusk mulch]

What do you mean?

If you click on your stop then it will take you directly to your stop

Not to the station

[tidal stone]

i mean i want them to go to central station first

then my stop

[dusk mulch]

You can't do that.

Like... unless you go into the CS mod and edit it, you can't.

[tidal stone]

yes you can i think, theres code for it

in the mod author guide

[dusk mulch]

That is to go to the station, which just has NPC's and shops.

[tidal stone]

no if you got ot he station window with the red ropes

you can see more stops

i used it for stardew aquarium

[dusk mulch]

The station window with the red ropes?

[tidal stone]

when i was playing

yes

[hard fern]

I do remember hearing something about how the stops work in central station, related to this, from pathos

[uncut viper]

what have you put for your networks?

[uncut viper]

as i understand it, if your Stop entry has, say, "Bus" listed in its Network field, then any bus can go directly there

without needing to go to Central Station

[tidal stone]

oooh

[uncut viper]

but if you tried to get there from Willy's boat, thats on the Boat network, so you would need to go from the Boat to Central Station

and then from Central Station to the bus ticket counter or w/e

and go to your stop

if your location name is listed as an option when you click the ticket machine, you're goin directly there

[tidal stone]

id like for it to only be through central station so it feels more immersive but thats just me

[dusk mulch]

Well when was the last time you had to go to a station to catch a bus? Most of the time you just go to a bus stop.

[tidal stone]

also person this is the indow with the red ropes

[dusk mulch]

Ohhh the red ropes

[uncut viper]

in the future, there are plans to be able to define your own networks

which could help you achieve requiring Central Station first

[hard fern]

I have gone to a train station to take the bus

(don't ask 😭)

[tidal stone]

its working

[dusk mulch]

ok yes but- stop it. /j

[hard fern]

???

Why

I need the bus

[dusk mulch]

you were defeating my point

[hard fern]

Nothing i can do about that

[dusk mulch]

nevermind

[uncut viper]

(i think there was a /j there)

(just hidden)

[hard fern]

I didn't see any?

[uncut viper]

im saying i think Person was just joking that you shouldnt say it bc it makes them wrong

[hard fern]

😅 it's all of way too late at night im too tired to joke...

[uncut viper]

i.e. the hidden invisible "/j"

[dusk mulch]

lol sorry

[hard fern]

Nah, im still up to brainstorm stuff

Since ideas always come wnd go

[dusk mulch]

well can you help me brainstorm dialogue for my NPC /j

im running out of ideas

[hard fern]

I can't dialogue to save my life

[dusk mulch]

real

[hard fern]

I think you're out of luck 😭

[dusk mulch]

😭

[hard fern]

All i really know how to do is make maps

[tidal stone]

how do i add a tile property to tiled

[dusk mulch]

and you do a great job at it

[tidal stone]

i wanna add a ticket machine so you can go back to the valley XD

[dusk mulch]

go to an object layer and go to the square tool in the toolbar and drag it across 1 tile then name it "TileData"

[latent mauve]

You make a TileData object on the object layer.

The capitalization is important there

(to make sure it's right, just grab any object from another map and change the properties on it)

Action properties typically need to be on the Buildings object layer

[dusk mulch]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:maps#Known_Tile_Properties

oops i didnt mean to reply

sorry

[latent mauve]

LOL, was just pre-empting because the ticket machine is an Action tile property

[tidal stone]

when i drag across the tile nothing happens with the tool

[dusk mulch]

You're using the square tool?

On an object layer?

[tidal stone]

ye

[dusk mulch]

Is the layer locked maybe?

[tidal stone]

no

[dusk mulch]

Make sure the layer is visible

[tidal stone]

wait i think i was using the wrong square shaped tol something happened

[vernal crest]

The correct tool is called Insert Rectangle

[dusk mulch]

Make sure the square is exactly covering 1 tile, if not then go to View>Snapping>Snap to grid

then redo it

(I shouldve mentioned that earlier)

anyway i have to go test my mod

if you have anymore trouble people are here to help

[tidal stone]

i put in the custom tile property but im not sure its working because nothing comes up when i try to click it in game but im p sure i put in in right i think

[unique sigil]

Did you draw the TileData object manually or did you copy it from an existing vanilla map? fireredlily has suggested to do the latter earlier, please follow that to minimize mistakes, if any

You can open a vanilla map, make any of the object layers visible (the ones with a pink icon), and then copy and paste any of the TileData objects there to your map and edit the properties on your map

[tidal stone]

i might have deleted it on accident

wait can i transfer between the maps

[unique sigil]

You can copy and paste stuff between different .tmx files, yes

However I don't recommend copying things from a Tile layer (blue icons) to another .tmx file, because you can cause duplicate tilesheets to appear in the tilesheet pane. Stuff from Object layers are fine

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Enterprise, with 22 C# mods and 6 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[uncut viper]

(while i dont know the cause of your range token error i do wanna say i did notice you're using Wen for wednesday dialogue but it should be Wed)

[dusk mulch]

Oh shoot, ty!

[proud wyvern]

Wendnsndayn

[hard fern]

Wed nes day

[dusk mulch]

You said sound it out so I sounded it out! (please tell me you get the reference)

[hard fern]

(i dont, not a single bit)

[vernal crest]

It might be giving the error because your default.json isn't loading

[dusk mulch]

I fixed that error, see that I reloaded the i18n

[hard fern]

(im bad with references to popular media. Im like your grandpa who asks what a fork knife is)

[uncut viper]

it would just be giving a no translation found if that were the case

[vernal crest]

Your NPCs.json file also isn't loading (I don't recommend using an apostrophe in a file name. Also you shouldn't apostrophise a plural of an initialism - but that second point is just about grammar lol).

[uncut viper]

that error is before a patch reload

[hard fern]

(would it be correct if you were to say "an npc's something")

[uncut viper]

(i do still concur about not using an apostrophe in it though)

[dusk mulch]

I have fixed that bit

[tidal stone]

im getting closer you guys, now it lets me click the ticket machine but it gets mad

[dusk mulch]

send me the error

us

we

[uncut viper]

the file name is no longer NPC's.json?

[dusk mulch]

correct, i changed it to NPCS.json and I remembered to change it in the Content.JSON

[uncut viper]

did you change that before or after this log?

[tidal stone]

fixed it woo

[dusk mulch]

After

I assume you want a new log?

[uncut viper]

it cant hurt, i just thought that if you did that before this log it would mean you were editing the wrong file

[vernal crest]

Yes because that's possession not pluralisation

[hard fern]

Got it

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Enterprise, with 22 C# mods and 6 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[uncut viper]

can you temporarily comment out every entry in your willow dialogue except for Mon and reload

[dusk mulch]

Uhhhh sure

ok no error

[uncut viper]

well, time to uncomment out one or a couple at a time til it errors again to see which one it is

[dusk mulch]

let me guess, keep adding in each entry until i get the error?

alright

[uncut viper]

you could probably do all the days of the week at the same time since those are basically identical

[hard fern]

My guess is that you're missing a { somewhere or something?

[uncut viper]

i did check them all and it all checked out, and doing a ctrl F for {{ and }} yields equal numbers of results, but its possible one was still missed

[dusk mulch]

i found which one it is

"SeedShop_39_19

in the 2 heart area

[uncut viper]

hm

does Town_18_18 also do it if you comment out the SeedShop one?

[dusk mulch]

let me see

No

[uncut viper]

oh

{{i18nPierWillow.

missing a :

second half of the SeedShop one

[dusk mulch]

hold on

oml

that is such bs

thank you for helping me fix it

it works now

[uncut viper]

dunno how it lead to the warning being about parsing Random

content patcher token parsing internals remain ever a mystery to me

[dusk mulch]

lol same

[tidal stone]

for future reference

when i make my npcs for my mod

will i need multiple i18n's or just one for all of them

[hard fern]

Technically you can have one big ass default.json

Nothing stopping you

[dusk mulch]

(which is what i do and I hate it but eh)

[hard fern]

Also technically you can break it up if you feel like, but all of them need to be in the default folder, and you can't have a regular default.json alongside it

Or something

[uncut viper]

if you use folder-based i18n then all of your i18n must be folder-based and vice versa, if you use a single default.json or like es.json then they must all be like that

[hard fern]

That's worded so much better than i ever could

[uncut viper]

one file for all languages, or folders for all languages, no mixing and matching

[dusk mulch]

my first actually well organized mod... it looks so nice...

[uncut viper]

also folder-based i18n wasnt even allowed until october of last year so most mods you see will likely be using single files

[dusk mulch]

I am NOT being bothered to put in dialogue sets for every 2 hearts you get with the NPCs I will cry

I am just having the 1 set, thats it

wait, im up to the events now! Yayyyy!

Wait-

[hard fern]

:)

Congratulations

[dusk mulch]

no i still have to make 1 more NPC

then i do events

[tidal stone]

im both excited and dreading making my npcs

[dusk mulch]

They are easy to do in terms of coding, they are just alot of work if you want them to be good

[tidal stone]

real

idk when i get to my npcs if i should do portraits first or dialogue

prob portraits

[lucid comet]

would recommend a bit of a mix - start with the base portraits you know you'll need and want, get a better feel for their personality, then dialogue and add any changes and new portraits needed from events/dialogue :3

[tidal stone]

ooh ok

[lucid comet]

since the details often make a chara feel more alive/endearing imo, and at least for me it's easier to not "force" that

[vernal crest]

I can't imagine doing all of one part of a mod before moving on to another part. I need the variety, plus every part informs the rest so I am always making changes based on something I discovered or decided doing some other part.

[hard fern]

Ive been putting myself in Map Hell for the past

[cyan venture]

how to fix this guys...

accept and decline options disappear

i dont know why

[vernal crest]

Are you making your mod with Content Patcher?

[cyan venture]

im making it with C#

[gentle rose]

it's an smapi mod changing the house upgrades iirc

Is your code on github, rias?

[cyan venture]

is not currently

im testing it

[gentle rose]

could you push what you currently have and send a link? and I'll have a look

[vernal crest]

I haven't looked at doing questions with C# yet. I should though, that seems like something I could grasp.

[cyan venture]

can you wait about 20mins

im having dinner now

[gentle rose]

np, ping me when you do

[rigid musk]

wait... you can have multiple default.jsons??

[gentle rose]

It's not super obvious but I can show you how I did it at some point!

[hard fern]

No not multiple

But multiple jsons for your i28n

[gentle rose]

(or you can practice finding it yourself and ask if you run into anything, ofc, if you want to do it as a learning exercise)

[rigid musk]

how would that even work

[lucid iron]

You can have default folder

Toss yer jsons in there

[calm nebula]

https://github.com/atravita-mods/StardewMods/blob/e83ec70f0619adf13be0deae04ca1258836067fa/AtraShared/Menuing/DialogueAndAction.cs#L14

[gentle rose]

do I have the energy to look at Smart Person Code rn

[rigid musk]

Iro you are a smart person

[vernal crest]

I'll see how I go! I have no operating system right now so this will not be for some days lol

[gentle rose]

lies and slander

[rigid musk]

[gentle rose]

I'm so confused, why is this grabbing keypresses? Is it a way to avoid using the location or dialogue based questions?

oh yeah, it looks like an implementation of questions. Interesting.

[lucid iron]

Making your own is just location.createQuestionDialogue
Here's mmap's impl
https://github.com/Mushymato/MiscMapActionsProperties/blob/main/MiscMapActionsProperties/Framework/Tile/QuestionDialogue.cs#L111

As for rias problem they don't have to make new responses right

Just skip prefix the existing response

[vernal crest]

Welp if that's what questions look like in C# I was wrong about being ready for them xD

[gentle rose]

iirc they only changed the price and materials, so presumably just a skip prefix, yeah

[lucid iron]

This one has a lot of bells and whistles bc it's for content pack usage

[calm nebula]

Tbh I'm surprised editing the dialogue line doesn't just work

It's very tall, maybe a layout issue

[calm nebula]

/// <summary>functools.partial my dead girlfriend...</summary>

[gentle rose]

I refuse to use functional programming libraries because they remind me of how much I prefer functional programming

a manual wrapper may be less efficient but so be it!

[lucid iron]

But functools is built-in

C# has foldr and friends already

It just doesn't have curry

[cyan venture]

here is my spaghetti code

[gentle rose]

no functools or I cry

or worse, redownload ghc

[gentle rose]

if (1 == 0)
{
}

I assume this is just for vibes debugging?

[cyan venture]

uhh

I think while I was sleepy I wrote something.

[gentle rose]

there's a few changes that need to be made unrelated to the bug before you publish, but I'll mention those in a sec

in your prefix for GameLocation.houseUpgradeOffer(), you call Game1.drawObjectDialogue(offerMessage); at the end, but the original method uses GameLocation.createQuestionDialogue

so basically, you aren't asking a question rn at all

[cyan venture]

hmm

but it was fine

i think it because of dialogue is too long

[gentle rose]

I'm really not sure how it could have been fine

you're literally not asking a question right now

[cyan venture]

because after i added clay and stone

[gentle rose]

if it was fine before, then your prefix wasn't running before afaik

[cyan venture]

hmm nvm let it pass

so i need to change prefix you provide right?

[gentle rose]

You just need to change Game1.drawObjectDialogue to __instance.createQuestionDialogue in the upgrade offer prefix I think

and add this.createYesNoResponses(), "upgrade" as parameters

[cyan venture]

hmm no error on code

ill try it later when me and my friend finish this session

[brittle pasture]

anyone here familiar with spacecore's custom properties? there's RegisterCustomProperty but I was wondering how/whether those custom properties actually get serialized to the save alongside the object. I'm guessing I also need to AddField but I still don't see the relation between that and the data I'm saving into the ConditionalWeakTable for the getters/setters

[lucid iron]

A whole feature i never heard of before

[tidal stone]

Does the need to mod distract u guys in day to day life /hj

It does mee

Also question a mod i download frequently and seen packaged with some npc expansion mods is like

Custom companion what does that do exactly

[lucid iron]

It let you have non social entities on the map

They can follow other npcs

[tidal stone]

Oooh

[gentle rose]

eats ram for breakfast

[lucid iron]

You don't need it for 1.6 though, except for niche case where you also need the anim

[tidal stone]

Ooh gotcha

[lucid iron]

Can simply make antisocial npc now

[gentle rose]

I can finally add myself as an npc without using frameworks, then

antisocial and unwilling to change that /lh

[lucid iron]

I wonder what exactly CC does to consume ram

[brittle pasture]

and 0 documentation basically lol
I may just use a child class with regular serializer

[lucid iron]

(is trinkets also secretly homf ram and i just have too much to notice)

[gentle rose]

ngl I can't remember if the issue was ram usage or cpu usage

(I've never seen trinkets get flagged in any logs so far!)

[lucid iron]

I don't even really understand how to profile c# code so i am just going by vibes 99% of time

[gentle rose]

oh I just know cc because of modded tech support stuff

[lucid iron]

How come you need the field anyways is the thing you ar working with lacking modData

[brittle pasture]

this is the fish pond thing
ideally I want to attach a hoedirt and output chest

alternative route is making them invisible and under the pond's top left tile

[lucid iron]

Invisible dirt seems fine to me

I thought chest is already the building tho

Or at least u can repurpose it

[brittle pasture]

hmmmmm

indoor pot inside chest...

[gentle rose]

idea: add all serialiseable data in by adding an inaccessible location and dynamically adding objects in a way that correlates to the information you need to store

[lucid iron]

Maybe the universe is just 1 big chest inside a fish pond

Don't pots need like

Location entry tho

Cus if chest works then just toss that into a global inv

Zero chance of weird stuff letting ppl remove secret pot if u do that

[brittle pasture]

I can set its location, but the location doesnt necessarily need to contain it

anyway yeah, forgot global inventory

[gentle rose]

a scarecrow on tile x0,y0 correlates to feature x0*width+y0 being set to a certain value. maximal efficiency of chaos achieved

[brittle pasture]

I'll give this a spin, but I might not need that SC dep after all
thanks all

[gentle rose]

(what are you trying to do feature-wise btw? I think I missed that part haha)

[brittle pasture]

fish pond aquaponics, plant crops inside fish ponds

[gentle rose]

ohh I see. ngl using an underlying shadow location might actually work, as terrible of an idea as that is

[lucid iron]

Fish pond indoor location with no actual human door...

[brittle pasture]

I want the crop to respect location/season planting rules though

[gentle rose]

you make a new instance for each fish pond which imitates its location/season. Its state gets used as the state of the fish pond

[brittle pasture]

what if the crop's planting condition checks the location name exactly

(they can use GSQs now)

[gentle rose]

you patch the Can Grow Here method to reference the original location

"what data structure are you using?"
"map"
"oh, what kind of mapping?"
"no. map."

[rigid musk]

[lucid iron]

Check the gsq ahead of the plant action and modify data to TRUE, restore after planting

For season u can make the sekrit indoor location Outdoors T

Just so u know i don't think this is necessarily the best idea, but it is the funniest

[blissful panther]

@dusk mulch Apparently I did an oopsie. I apparently left MEEP's update key in PEEM... so people using PEEM are getting update notifications for MEEP.

You'll just need to change the update key in PEEM's manifest to either be blank, or whatever strategy is normally recommended for sub-mods. Sorry for the trouble there!

[tidal stone]

home again home again jiggity jig

now to make more maps

[calm nebula]

Rewriting xml ser seems more fun

[tidal stone]

!i18n

[ocean sail]

Creating Translation Capability

So you'd like to stop writing all of \"your strings straight in your content.json?\" and/or you'd like the capability to see all of your strings across all of your .jsons?
Introducing i18n!

• How to make your mod compatible with other languages: stardewmodding.wiki.gg

• The file where you can put all of your strings is called default.json, and it sits in a folder at the same level of your assets, named "i18n".

• If you're converting from an older version of the game, there's a converter for ease-of-access.

Not to be confused with {{DynamicTokens}} since these require the specific {{i18n:<KEY>}} modifier

To use this command, type !i18n.

[eternal mortar]

Did I do this correctly? (Sorry im stupid lol)

[tidal stone]

is it possible for doors to go side the ways

like if i wanted it to go here

[vernal crest]

You don't need the little 2, because that's just indicating the presence of a footnote on the wiki. Otherwise, as long as you actually do have a tile there on the Buildings tile layer, looks good!

[tidal stone]

or are they straight one direction only

[vernal crest]

Not in vanilla. Rokugin's door mod might allow it, let me find it.

Nope, no sideways doors there.

[tidal stone]

all good i can redo the room a bit

[vernal crest]

There was a mod for it way back in 2019 called Better Doors but apparently the unofficial update for that is broken now.

[tidal stone]

😔

[lucid iron]

What would sideways door look like

[vernal crest]

The actual door? Like this probably. (Images from Better Doors Nexus page).

[lucid iron]

Oh the anim goes backwards then i see

[tribal ore]

Having more trouble with marriage dialogue priority. I assumed that stuff like funLeave/funReturn and "<season>_<day>" would have a higher priority than the rest of the marriage dialogue. But I'm getting OneKid lines instead of either of those options?

@vernal crest Btw, your fix from yesterday for the q/r stuff worked!

[lucid iron]

Did you have a kid

[tribal ore]

Yes!

Does OneKid just clobber everything else?

Including <season>_<day> stuff?

[lucid iron]

Yeah it gets queued after the birth event

Does it persist past the first time you see it

[tribal ore]

Hmmmmm. I'm several days past the birth event now. How long is the queue?

And after the queue clears, what happens?

[tiny zealot]

looks like five days
./StardewValley/Events/BirthingEvent.cs: spouse.daysAfterLastBirth = 5;

[tribal ore]

Oooooh, interesting!

[tiny zealot]

in marriageDuties, it checks for that value >= 0 to set kid dialogue. overrides a bunch of stuff (decrements after checking)

[lucid iron]

Baby brained

[tribal ore]

But will the onekid stuff show up again after the birth event period is over?

[calm nebula]

Do the spouses literally only talk about kids the first five days

Smh

[tiny zealot]

besides the "just had a baby" period, looks like a 7% chance to get OneKid or TwoKids, as appropriate

[tribal ore]

Nice, that is really really helpful

Means that I don't have to overwrite kid dialogue as much as I thought I would

I was just suddently getting only "baby this" and "baby that"

xD

[tiny zealot]

pretty standard if you just had a baby, i think!

[tribal ore]

Absolutely. I just didn't know how long it would last. Thought it was permanent

[thin plover]

Question regarding the quarry - my initial attempts and searches haven't proved fruitful: if I want to prevent trees from spawning, does it use tile properties of the mountain map? I've tried setting NoSpawn Trees, NoSpawn All, and CanPlantTrees F on the dirt tiles, but random tree seeds still seem to sprout. Are spawns of the trees (and the ore, for that matter) controlled by another file?

[tribal ore]

Oh! One more question in case I still have ichor here. Does <season>_<day> normally outrank funLeave? Or is it the other way around?

I'm taking notes and might update the wiki later, since MarriageDialogue priority isn't as well documented as normal dialogue

[tiny zealot]

it should be checked in the order listed in the table on [[Modding:Dialogue]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Dialogue

[tiny zealot]

OneKid/TwoKids jumping to almost top priority right after giving birth is oddly omitted. may be new

[cyan venture]

i have problem with dialogue overwrite

[tribal ore]

But funLeave is marriage only, so I wasn't sure where it fits

[cyan venture]

Error processing house upgrade: Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Content.ContentLoadException: Unable to parse string path: Thank you! I'll get started tomorrow. I should be finished in around 4 days.
at StardewValley.LocalizedContentManager.parseStringPath(String path, String& assetName, String& key) in D:\GitlabRunner\builds\Gq5qA5P4\0\ConcernedApe\stardewvalley\Farmer\Farmer\LocalizedContentManager.cs:line 855
at StardewValley.LocalizedContentManager.LoadStringReturnNullIfNotFound(String path, Boolean localeFallback) in D:\GitlabRunner\builds\Gq5qA5P4\0\ConcernedApe\stardewvalley\Farmer\Farmer\LocalizedContentManager.cs:line 675
at StardewValley.LocalizedContentManager.LoadString(String path) in D:\GitlabRunner\builds\Gq5qA5P4\0\ConcernedApe\stardewvalley\Farmer\Farmer\LocalizedContentManager.cs:line 737
at StardewValley.NPC.setNewDialogue(String translationKey, Boolean add, Boolean clearOnMovement) in D:\GitlabRunner\builds\Gq5qA5P4\0\ConcernedApe\stardewvalley\Farmer\Farmer\NPC.cs:line 5361
at FarmhouseUpgradeConfigurable.PatchHouseUpgradeAccept.Prefix(GameLocation __instance) in C:\Users\Admin\source\repos\FarmhouseUpgradeConfigurable\PatchHouseUpgradeAccept.cs:line 59

[tidal stone]

it took some time but i feel less stupid now, because ik how to do tiledata now

[cyan venture]

is this readable?

[tiny zealot]

there's a table specific to marriage dialogue

[tribal ore]

Or wait, you mean it will show up in the order listed on the marriage table from top to bottom

Ofc

Good

-1 reading comprehension to me this morning

[vital solstice]

I'm working on updating an older mod, (with permission) I have it working and functioning on 1.6, but the old code uses a lot of "dummy" events in case the farmer skips an event or to add a conversation topic or to change an NPC's appearance for a few days. This wouldn't be a problem and I would ignore it, but it does causes random freezes/crashes.

Like you'll wake up the next day, dummy event will play, and it'll freeze the game so you'll have to close out and come back in. Which isn't the end of the world, but I rather this be a pretty smooth experience for end users.

My question is - is there a way to tell the game an event has been "seen" without actually playing it?

Like I'm pretty sure I can build out a triggerAction file to load, and then target data/triggerActions and then add in whatever I need to update, I'm just 😂 wanting to confirm before I deep dive into this nonsense and may or may not break everything.

[tiny zealot]

yeah trigger actions to mark events as seen, you got it

[tribal ore]

You could also convert dummy events like this to trigger actions and get rid of them entirely. In a lot of cases

[tiny zealot]

yes. look into the event command setSkipActions if you need to handle something when the player skips an event

[royal stump]

action can also run a trigger action directly in an event, if something particular to them is needed

[tidal stone]

guess who made their content json mad again

is there an order specific way to do entries ro is it like just put in there correctly

[latent mauve]

Depends on where you are putting the entries

[vital solstice]

Thank you for the reassurances! Perfect. I'll start getting on that.

And yea, I can't really run an action in an event if the user skips/avoids the event entirely which was the "need" for the dummy events.

I'm assuming

[royal stump]

yeah, the skippable stuff helps if they actually press the skip button, but not if they can physically avoid the event

[vital solstice]

Yea bad terminology on my part lol, i forgot for a sec the "skip" button was an actual thing 🤣

[tidal stone]

Ok so i set my data/location to load my interior map and im using a warp tile in my main neighborhood map to go there via door, BUT it says the location wasnt found or couldn't be loaded

[latent mauve]

If it's something that fills in a data model, then the order of the entries usually isn't a big deal (unless it has precedence, like appearances).

[calm nebula]

Look into data/triggeractions

[tiny zealot]

yes, back then you had to use workarounds like this. trigger actions can run at the start or end of any day with whatever conditions you require, so whatever dummy events the mod had can almost certainly be replaced

[latent mauve]

Post the full log please

[tidal stone]

ok!

would you need anything else like my content json as well?

[tiny zealot]

(back then you had to make events unskippable, too, if they had required side effects! i don't miss that)

[latent mauve]

It could be an ordering issue, but more likely your tmx or tilesheet preventing the tmx from loading properly

[tidal stone]

https://smapi.io/log/43d4bbe87f224a8b802befdbd30c6d4e

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, with 6 C# mods and 3 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[latent mauve]

Yes, content json where you load the map target and then edit the data/locations entry would also help

Ah ha

Is the location defined as just FamilyHome?

Or is it KandiKraze.FamilyHome (or similar)?

[tidal stone]

yes and also in the warp tiledata as well

oh

its called FamilyHome.tmx

https://smapi.io/json/none/49510b1b7af945c5a3f31155e521d3f6

[latent mauve]

Warps are picky about exact Location names, it wants the Data/Locations entry ID, not your tmx filename

[tidal stone]

ooohhhh

so it would want KandiKraze.TheNeighborhood_FamilyHome?

[latent mauve]

As a quick test, you can try debug warp KandiKraze.TheNeighborhood_FamilyHome to make sure it loaded there

But yes

[tidal stone]

ok thank you

let me try it out 😄

[latent mauve]

If you can warp to it, it exists and is the right name!

[tidal stone]

where do i type in commands i tried smapi console but it said /debug is not a command

[latent mauve]

No slash

[tidal stone]

it still says unknwn command

[latent mauve]

And it goes in the SMAPI terminal window

Did you uninstall Console Commands (the mod)?

It comes with SMAPI and makes the commands work

[tidal stone]

i dont think so? where would i check

OH

[latent mauve]

Mods folder

[tidal stone]

its a mod

i did not know

XD

i thought i deleted some tool that came with smapi lol

i was like ☠️ how could i do dis

[latent mauve]

Haha, yeah, SMAPI comes with ConsoleCommands and SaveBackup by default installed in the Mods folder

Reinstalling SMAPI will put them back if you accidentally purged them when doing mod spring cleaning

[tidal stone]

aaah i probably deleted them during a mod wipe at some point

if it was in the mods folder

should i redownload smapi to get the mod back

[latent mauve]

You can just rerun the installer you used before

But if you deleted that too, you will need to download it again

[tidal stone]

I did XD

[latent mauve]

For future reference, those mods are packaged in because they're super useful, you generally will not need to remove them.

[tidal stone]

ok it said there was no output

so ig it didnt load in even though i put the code in cp for it to load the map?

huh

[tiny zealot]

debug commands responding with "sent the command, but there was no output" is normal

most commands do not generate output

[tidal stone]

oh

well i didnt teleport

so ig that would be the one that means that i didnt do it right XD

WAIT

nevermind it took it a second because i clicked my second monitor

[tiny zealot]

yeah for warp you have to focus back on the game. the fade and warp are part of the update loop, which freezes when the game isn't focused

[tidal stone]

ill change my warp command in tiled to see if i can get that to work with warp KandiKraze.TheNeighborhood_FamilyHome

and i also need to edit the interior as it is so dark and i must learn howth to fixeth that

[cyan venture]

guys i cant overwrite Robin dialogue it so annoying

someone help me

[wanton pebble]

I mean you definitely can

[urban patrol]

ambient light is a map property you can set

[wanton pebble]

We'll need more information

[reef kiln]

Now, that is a mod I would use. One that let's time and the game run when not focused on the game.

[wanton pebble]

What dialogue are you trying to overwrite, How are you doing it, And do you have other mods that might be editing that line

[cyan venture]

i want to edit this dialogue

which should be

Thank you! I'll get started tomorrow. I should be finished in around three days

ye this should be this

but somehow my mod is delete the dialogue

then

im trying to use CP

even C#

but it still error

and ye im already try i18n translation too

i want edit (Thank you! I'll get started tomorrow. I should be finished in around three days) with (three days) is the days in my mod config

[tidal stone]

what are DayTiles

[brittle pasture]

!json post what you have?

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[urban patrol]

those are tiles that change their appearance based on whether it’s day or night, such as windows or lamps

they’re a bit tricky to set up but i can send my map as an example

[tidal stone]

gotcha so i should set all these coords to my windows

[cyan venture]

im currently using Harmony patch method

so i dont have JSON file now

[urban patrol]

yeah, the game sets it for windows, floor tiles that have the window sunlight patch, and lamps, but it’s restricted to certain tile sheet indexes which i think the wiki lists

[cyan venture]

oh i think i found it

[brittle pasture]

I don't have the context for what you're doing, but those Robin dialogue lines are just saved in data, so they are easily editable with content patcher

or if you're working in C#, an AssetRequested event

[tidal stone]

this is really fun

ok i have no idea what these numbers next to the coords are

what are the 3numbers

[urban patrol]

the tilesheet index

[tidal stone]

aaah

[urban patrol]

if you hover over a tile it tells you the x and y and index

[tidal stone]

oooh

is index the id number?

[urban patrol]

much easier than counting, which i definitely did at first 😂

yeah it tells the game where in the tilesheet to look

[tidal stone]

ooh ok

i dont understand the correlation yet but i understand the index number

how do the numbers correlate to what the command does?

[urban patrol]

you’re setting day tiles right now, right? that command tells the game to go to each coordinate you specify and replace whatever is there with the tile at the index you specified from the hours of sunrise to sunset. you then set night tiles with the night time variant of those tiles

[tidal stone]

mmm oo

[urban patrol]

actually, i’m not sure if you have to set both? i did because it was the only i could get it to work but maybe you don’t have to

there’s also window light, which adds that bright window glow when it’s sunny

[latent mauve]

It will change the tile to whatever is at the index for NightTiles, so if you want the light effect without changing the tile sprite, you could leave it the same, I guess.

There's also Path layer lighting (the light bulb) for indoor maps

[tidal stone]

yea im sticking it around where i feel light would naturally go

do i have to add tiledata to it

[urban patrol]

i don’t think so

[tidal stone]

what doors custom property do, does that make door open and close

[latent mauve]

That makes them have door animations when interacted with

As a note, you are limited to doors that open to the left even if you flip the door tile, unless you are using Extra Map Action's CustomDoors property.

[tidal stone]

question on doors

does it want just the bottom tile coord

[latent mauve]

I think so (it should be looking for the bottom tile that sits on the Buildings layer), but I can double check real quick.

Ok, so yes, it wants the bottom door tile specifically

And you also will need to add the Action Door tile property to the same tile as a TileData object

(also to prevent confusion if you aren't looking at a vanilla map exactly, doors are set up with the bottom tile on Buildings and the top tiles on Front)

The Saloon is my favorite vanilla map to check for Door requirements

Although SeedShop isn't bad to check either

[tidal stone]

after i get all the maps done im going to work on npcs one at a time and after each npcs is portraited and dialogues and sprited im going to go through their room and add little notes =in some spots so it isnt just a room with dead items

[urban patrol]

that sounds great! the little interactions with objects in maps are so cute

[tidal stone]

if i put a space in the name of my map ( i want it to not be TheNeighborhood on central and just be The Neighborhood) i put a _ in where thespace is correct?

[rigid musk]

I'm not sure honestly, I think you can just have a space there for the display name - I used a translation token so I don't know for certain though

[tidal stone]

ah

OH

ui found it

im so silly

ok the doors are not dooring

hmm

wait i think i found a solution but i need the doors id on the sprite

its so hard to find it

found it

question about map command properties if anyone knows

while the door command gives functionality this command makes it where you need at least 2 hearts to open the door, is this an additional property needed or is this like an alternative porperty

[flat sluice]

I think you have to define at least 1 internal NPC name for that, but you can use more of them, or that's how I interpret the text on the wiki. No idea how it really works, never used it (don't even know where, mapping I guess?)

[tidal stone]

also the door command does not make door open and close for me, it just makes them solid doors

[urban patrol]

i assume that would be used for shared rooms like robin and demetrius sharing a room

[latent mauve]

Action Door or Action Door <NPC> is required to interact

[tidal stone]

Oooooh

and those i would assume are tiledata thingies not map property?

[latent mauve]

Yep, like I mentioned here

[tidal stone]

Oh i am sucha bad reader i apolofgize

WOOHOO doors

[rancid musk]

Right. I think it's time to tackle Ui Info Suite 2 for Better Game Menu.

[tidal stone]

1 interior map of about eh 15 maps? for my first exterior map is done

[twin oracle]

Hey all, I was recommended to share my mod bug here: https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1347304287755304970

I'm trying to adjust a map mod, but opening and saving it in Tiled, even without making any changes, causes the game to crash back to the main menu when trying to use the map. If anyone can help, I'd be very grateful!

[dusk mulch]

I will leave it blank then

[hot gale]

Because opening it strips the tilesheets from it unless you reassign them

afaik

[dusk mulch]

Ty for letting me know

[hollow seal]

hey would anyone here be able to help me figure out why certain mods arent launching?

[lucid iron]

!mh

[ocean sail]

For help with modding issues, please ask in #1272025932932055121! When asking for assistance there, sharing an error log will help others identify your issue (see https://smapi.io/log for instructions).

To use this command, type !mh.

[twin oracle]

It looks like all the tilesheets are accounted for - It stopped throwing errors when I open the file from the Content (unpacked) > Maps folder

[hot gale]

Oh, hmm Im not sure then. I havent used Tiled much. What happens if you move the .tmx and open it from somewhere else

[lucid iron]

!tilesheetclimbing

[ocean sail]

When creating or editing maps in Tiled, one common error is tilesheet climbing, marked by red text containing "invalid tilesheet path '../../..'. This is caused by SMAPI not being able to find the tilesheets needed by the map file. To prevent this error, make sure that you have a copy of all necessary tilesheets in the folder containing your WIP tmx file. Copies of vanilla tilesheets can later be deleted, but must be present while working on your map.

If you get this error with a completed map, an easy way to fix it is to open your tmx file in VS Code or a similar text editor, find all of the places with <image source=, and remove the filepaths to so that only the tilesheet names remain. For example, if the code says <image source="Content (unpacked)/Maps/townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>, change it to just <image source="townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>.

To use this command, type !tilesheetclimbing.

[hot gale]

It should then error with no sheets, you can then add back I think?

[uncut viper]

did you ever save it not from the unpacked content folder, though?

if you ever save the map when the tilesheets are not present, even with no changes, it breaks it

[twin oracle]

If I try opening it from the mod folder, it opens up blank because it's not in the same folder as all the tilesheets. I read that I have to copy the tmx file into the folder with all the assets, then save it and move it back to the mod folder

[hot gale]

I believe thats incorrect

[uncut viper]

correct, or vice versa (moving the tilesheets into the mod folder temporarily)

both methods will work

but if it was ever accidentally saved when a tilesheet was not there and it was blank then its broken until you save it when they ARE all present

[twin oracle]

Otherwise I get this ugly thing

[hot gale]

Yeah you have to add the sheets

At least thats what I did

Once they are added you can edit and stuff, then just move the .tmx

[twin oracle]

I've been using fresh downloads after each error so that it's not building on a broken file

[uncut viper]

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[uncut viper]

please share an error log then

[twin oracle]

https://smapi.io/log/3e506d649ee54eddbb91e1a52162ff03

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on macOS Unix 15.3.1, with 2 C# mods and 3 content packs.

[uncut viper]

yeah, thats the error that happens when you save when the tilesheets are missing

[lucid iron]

This is precisely what leads to tilesheet climbing, don't do it

[twin oracle]

I shared my #1272025932932055121 link which had the log as well

[uncut viper]

place your tmx in the same folder as all the required tilesheets so that nothing is broken when you open it in tiled
then, make a tiny change, and save the map
then undo that change and save the map again
then close Tiled and move the .tmx back to your mod folder (or if it was there already, remove the tilesheet pngs from your mod folder)

[lucid iron]

What I'd do is download this map mod again and start over, following what the command and button said

You can check u did it right by opening the tmx as text

[uncut viper]

(the reason for the tiny change is so that it detects that there are changes to be saved ofc to force it to save and recalculate the gids)

if it works when the tmx is opened in the unpacked content folder i dont think its a tilesheet climbing issue

it would be broken in the unpacked folder if that was the case

it working fine in the unpacked content maps folder is indicative that the image sources are exactly as they need to be

[twin oracle]

So, I've got my Maps folder where I've copied a fresh version of the tmx file. When I paste that file into the mods folder, the game works fine. When I open the tmx from the Maps folder, save as and overwrite the file in the Mods folder, then the game crashed back to the menu.

[uncut viper]

dont save it elsewhere

save it in the same folder you are working on it in

[twin oracle]

And then move it over to the mods folder after..?

[uncut viper]

i guess that means chu and i were both correct as it is and isnt a tilesheet climbing error bc the tmx you were working in was right, but saving it elsewhere makes that tmx broken due to tilesheet climbing

yes

always work with your tmx in the same folder as the tilesheets. this includes editing and saving. always save it in the same folder it started in

copy it into your mod folder when you're done making any edits

[hot gale]

Damn I made my map mod way wrong

It works though? so.. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[lucid iron]

I mean if it loads then it's alright

[uncut viper]

there are a number of ways to make a map

[lucid iron]

The main thing is just don't include the tilesheet in your released mod

[uncut viper]

as chu says if it loads, its a correct way to make a map

[hot gale]

Yeah I just worked directly in my git folder, had all the sheets I needed alongside the tmx, just moved the tmx to my mods folder and it was gtg

[uncut viper]

thats basically the same thing as described here except instead of the git folder its the unpacked map folder

[hot gale]

gotcha

[lucid iron]

Yeah that's roughly what i do as well, the thing that is bad is responding to the tiled prompt to pick tilesheet

That gives u ../.. business usually

[uncut viper]

one day someone will make that stardew specific tiled fork

[twin oracle]

I think I followed the correct steps, but it still throws the error.

[uncut viper]

ill be honest i do not want to watch a 2min video instead of just seeing an error log uploaded to smapi.io

[twin oracle]

Looks identical to the last log: https://smapi.io/log/70d7ecd2cce343718781806c23890bc2

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on macOS Unix 15.3.1, with 2 C# mods and 3 content packs.

[uncut viper]

and you made sure to actually make that tiny change and save the map to make it recalculate the GIDs?

[twin oracle]

Yes, I adjusted a tile, changed it back, saved to the Content folder, copied and pasted the file into the Mods folder

[uncut viper]

did you save after adjusting the tile and before changing it back? while i cant say for certain how Tiled works, i know its not uncommon for software to detect that nothing is actually different when you save and not actually do anything, and nothing would be different if you changed a tile and then changed it back before saving again

and saving between the two steps is always how ive seen others recommend it

[twin oracle]

Just tried it that way, and received the same error.

Is there a way for me to figure out which location is "Invalid tile gid: 9884" so I can try to figure out what is there that might be causing this?

[uncut viper]

are you using any custom tilesheets that are not present in your Maps folder?

[lucid iron]

Did you start from new dl of file

[uncut viper]

your unpacked maps folder

[wanton pebble]

You're missing a tilesheet ref

[uncut viper]

you could potentially look in your .tmx to find which tilesheet has 0 tiles and 0 width/height maybe, though i cant say ive ever looked inside a tmx itself in N++ for this error so im not 100% sure what you;d look for

[wanton pebble]

Here

[uncut viper]

thats what we've already been doing

[wanton pebble]

Interesting. And it didn't fix it?

[twin oracle]

I always do each time

[uncut viper]

can you send your .tmx in here?

[uncut viper]

 <editorsettings>
  <export target="RemoveDogHouse.tmx" format="tmx"/>
 </editorsettings>

(i have no idea what this is? does anyone more familiar with Tiled know what this is and whether or not its relevant. ive not seen it before)

[twin oracle]

It's another tmx file that's in the mod

[uncut viper]

i dont know why its inside the tmx of your UltimateFarm though, idk what that export stuff does

[twin oracle]

Your guess is far better than mine!

[uncut viper]

you are using custom tilesheets then?

[uncut viper]

are they not in your unpacked maps folder?

since I opened your tmx in mine and it is still missing a tilesheet reference for a daisyniko tilesheet

[uncut viper]

i see. so not relevant then as its not somethin meant to be read

good to know, i guess

[blissful panther]

....damn it.

[uncut viper]

i see. so not relevant then as its not somethin meant to be read

good to know, i guess

[tawny ore]

https://tenor.com/view/clint-eastwood-gunslinger-six-shooter-gun-flip-flip-gun-into-holster-gif-12269850668243461412

[uncut viper]

well now i just look silly

[tawny ore]

Now it seems like @blissful panther is just upset for no reason

[blissful panther]

Suits the name!

[twin oracle]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/6348 has additional tile sheets (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/4736?tab=files

[iron ridge]

I am opening this via nano on a phone.. I am so glad tiled saved prettified files

[uncut viper]

i was asking if those extra tilesheets are present in your unpacked Maps folder when you are saving your tmx

[iron ridge]

(Not that it's helpful here, but tiled in theory shouldn't actually need them but it does for some reason)

[twin oracle]

They are, yes. Though they must've been there from years ago, as I didn't transfer them during this attempt

I just updated those files with the ones from the new modpack.. I'll see if that changes anything

Damn, same error. I was really hoping that would do something

[uncut viper]

Tiled would tell you at the top when you open it if it cant find them. if it still isnt solved though then unfortunately i have to go and someone else may have to help you if they can, but the gid error is like, 99% of the time because of a missing tilesheet reference

[twin oracle]

Thank you for trying to help! The only other file I had issues locating was spring_outdoorTileSheet_extra.png. I had to download that from a random google drive link because I couldn't find references to it anywhere else

[uncut viper]

when was the last time you unpacked your game files bc thats just a vanilla file

[twin oracle]

I verified the files this morning. Is that the same as unpacking?

[uncut viper]

no

[iron ridge]

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[uncut viper]

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[candid stratus]

the wiki mentions that for editing vanilla maps by adding tilesheets I gotta make sure new tilesheets dont interrupt the tilesheet order but what if I'm making a brand new map? Where does this indexing happen and do I need to worry about the order for a brand new map?

[calm nebula]

You shouldn't need to worry about the order for a new map these days

[rancid musk]

From working on BetterGameMenu patches for various mods, I have discovered that wow, barely anyone puts GetApi<T>(...) calls in a try/catch block despite that throwing if the API can't be cast

I guess people expect it to be like x as SomeType casting where it just returns null if it can't cast it? 🤔

[lucid iron]

Wait i thought it just returns null

This is news to me

[uncut viper]

(i just treat it as "if it breaks in the cast thats something id catch in testing and/or an update to their API in which case i want people to notify me asap)