making-mods-general

[gentle rose]

(in lieu of finding the xkcd that ofc exists to explain it because what HASN’T xkcd covered, tl;dr for anyone curious, classical probability uses measurable previous data like atra making the most progress, Bayesian probability also considers contextual knowledge, like atra being retired, and you don’t need either one of those to know there’s a 100% chance I should go to sleep)

[uncut viper]

im extra dumb bc until just now i thought you were referencing a previous conversation, but no, that was cartesian

[gentle rose]

I remember mentions of cartesian products but not why

oh, content patcher crimes

.xkcd 1132

…uber?

hmm, uber’s xkcd command isn’t working rn. Edit: I think it’s been disabled in this server 😭

https://xkcd.com/1132/

xkcd: Frequentists vs. Bayesians

'Detector! What would the Bayesian statistician say if I asked him whether the--' [roll] 'I AM A NEUTRINO DETECTOR, NOT A LABYRINTH GUARD. SERIOUSLY, DID YOUR BRAIN FALL OUT?' [roll] '... yes.'

[uncut viper]

i would bet you $50 atra would make it but good luck collecting

no time limit on the bet

[reef kiln]

Are we allowed to elect people to make mods that don't want the job, because if so I have a few suggestions. 😀

[dusk mulch]

omg the sprites, portraits and dialogue is actually, GOOD?! for this npc I made it should be bad

[tender bloom]

I feel like we can elect whoever we want to make whatever mods but it turns out they often don’t actually do the thing?? Wild, really

As someone who hasn’t made a new mod in…idk a year or more

If I am elected, I can promise continued no new mods

[lucid iron]

i think elizabeth should make the wind turbines and water wheels mod

[tender bloom]

The occasional mod update if the game has a major version change

And a whole lot of bullshit

Ok that does sound really fun

[gentle rose]

I elect both mathpeople to continue their fabric crrafts and hopefully keep putting up with us

[calm nebula]

I mean I also already did the code lol

[tender bloom]

I’m not sure my art skills extend to waterwheels

[calm nebula]

There is a nontrivial chance I will hit the publish button

But not before I get back from China

[gentle rose]

is it content-packable?

[tender bloom]

Atra you’re so much less retired than I am xD

[uncut viper]

that wasnt in the project specs

[tender bloom]

I bet you even check your nexus notifs more than once a month

Once every two months

[uncut viper]

wheres my 50 bucks, iro

[gentle rose]

well it’s what I meant and you should have read my mind

[uncut viper]

bayesian statistics should tell you id take any technicality

[gentle rose]

not published yet and also I never agreed to it technically and also nuh uh

[calm nebula]

Project specs: just devs work. No publish

[hard fern]

If someone elects me to make a mod I'll only consider it if it results in me scrapping it 5 times over before deciding on something

[tender bloom]

I feel like Atra claims to be retired but publishes mods, and I claim to be not retired but never publish mods. If Atra ever stops publishing I’ll have to see if this magically makes me start, to maintain balance in the world.

There will come a day when I’m not teaching a new class from scratch, I swear

[calm nebula]

I am going to China for two weeks

[nova gale]

huh, getting a fruit to not make wine is harder then I thought 😛

[uncut viper]

hi selph

[tender bloom]

The machine rules have hierarchy I thought

[brittle pasture]

targetfield (BC)12 > OutputRules > Default_Wine > Triggers > ItemPlacedInMachine_Fruit > RequiredTags

[uncut viper]

machine rules are mentioned i understand

[brittle pasture]

lmao

[nova gale]

yeah, I did that

[brittle pasture]

and add !id_o_youritemid to ban it

[lucid iron]

are you trying to get something else out of keg

[nova gale]

{
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/Machines",
            "TargetField": [
                "(BC)12",
                "OutputRules",
                "Default_Wine",
                "Triggers",
                "ItemPlacedInMachine_Wine",
                "RequiredTags"
            ],
            "Entries": {
                "#-1":"{{ModId}}_non_wine_fruit"
            }
        },

[lucid iron]

or just ban froot

[brittle pasture]

you need a ! to negate

that just makes it so only items with that tag can be used to make wine

[nova gale]

oh, I had it negated before, I unnegated to to see if the change was working at all

[brittle pasture]

ah it should be ItemPlacedInMachine_Fruit as I posted above

you're editing the second trigger, which is an extra case for non-fruit items

[nova gale]

oh, yeah, same deal, I had it as fruit before, I swapped to the other one just to make sure my target field in general was working

I wasn't sure if the fruit entry was "special" somehow

[brittle pasture]

can you post what you did have?

[nova gale]

{
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/Machines",
            "TargetField": [
                "(BC)12",
                "OutputRules",
                "Default_Wine",
                "Triggers",
                "ItemPlacedInMachine_Fruit",
                "RequiredTags"
            ],
            "Entries": {
                "#-1":"!{{ModId}}_non_wine_fruit"
            }
        },

I'm reloading this to re-test

these are the context tags of the fruit I'm trying to ban:

 "ContextTags": [
                        "{{ModId}}",
                        "{{ModId}}_Crops",
                        "{{ModId}}_non_wine_fruit",
                        "color_dark_purple",
                        "dye_strong",
                        "season_spring",
                        "season_summer",
                        "season_fall"
                    ],

[gentle rose]

Just do what my lecturers did, take the lecture slides some guy made five years ago that have been reused ever since, do no prep, add some mistakes and then stop teaching the course after a year

[nova gale]

gotta get those sweet sweet repeatable lessons and assignments, half the effort

[gentle rose]

also apparently earlier this year an ipad exploded in the maths lecture theatre during a lecture at my (ig old?) uni and the lecturer just went “well, there’s probability to learn” and kept going

love that lecturer though. dedicated enough to take time out of a y1 probability lecturer every single year to draw frogs on the whiteboard for one of his assignments. 10/10 would recommend frog

[dusk mulch]

oops is this a bad time for memes

well

meme

[gentle rose]

might not be wrong time but probably wrong channel

[nova gale]

oh wait! these fruits were harvested before I added the tag, they may not have them

[dusk mulch]

yeah but if i post this in the memes channel then it wont be understood, its a modding meme

[brittle pasture]

yeah that might be the case if you havent exited your game and have been patch reloading all this time

context tags are cached

[calm nebula]

re conversation earlier today wrt to monster slay quests

interesting

[nova gale]

yup, that was it

I just got a new harvest of berries and those hit the right recipe

[calm nebula]

@rigid musk report monster quests not respecting targetMessage to the wiki

[brittle pasture]

quick question - can I use reflection to set a readonly field

[calm nebula]

I'm very certain it was meant to work.

[gentle rose]

seems like it was an oversight, at a glance

[brave fable]

that sounds highly illegal

[gentle rose]

it sounds… pythonic almost

[lucid iron]

u probably can since readonly is just a suggestion right

[uncut viper]

do you plan on testing if no one has the answer

[calm nebula]

readonly is not a suggestion

[uncut viper]

i assumed it was just for the compiler to yell at you

[nova gale]

I can't recall if C# runtime checks the readonly or if thats a compiler only check

[uncut viper]

but idk much about anytyhing

[calm nebula]

it's a compiler only check in framework and actually enforced in core

[nova gale]

oh fun, I'm sure that differentiation has never caused problems 😛

[lucid iron]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/934930/can-i-change-a-private-readonly-field-in-c-sharp-using-reflection

rando on stackoverflow says yes

[uncut viper]

lets be fair here, its at least 2 randos

[calm nebula]

none of this is virtual

[lucid iron]

coulda changed it in the past 15 years though

[calm nebula]

:grumbles: none of this is virtual

[lucid iron]

this is ancient.

[calm nebula]

guyyyysss

"it's a compiler only check in framework and enforced in core"

[lucid iron]

are you gonna stop the crimes channel from doing crimes atra

[gentle rose]

the main wiki? I can’t find any mention of targetMessage there at all

[brave fable]

please do not change the value of readonly members at runtime

[lucid iron]

or attempting them at least

[calm nebula]

to the forum sorry

[lucid iron]

does this mean selph simply has to target netframework4

[brave fable]

like i'm sure with enough effort we can remove members entirely but we do not do that

that is not what we do

[uncut viper]

i would love to do it

[brave fable]

npc.hasbeenkissedtoday? gone.

you did this.

[gentle rose]

that means I have to dig through code to figure out what targetMessage is intended to do and satisfy my curiosity though

[lucid iron]

what do you particularly want to change selph?

[calm nebula]

why is linqpad so unusable

[brittle pasture]

I'm trying to make custom furniture description show up in the crafting menu
and dw I already have another route, I just want to know if the least effort way is desirable (apparently not)

[calm nebula]

wow, linqpad crashed on me twice

[lucid iron]

isnt the least effort way like, patch the tooltipy

[brittle pasture]

thank goodness I asked before committing a felony then

[brave fable]

there's crimes ✨ and then there's assault

you chose assault

[uncut viper]

i would like to change a readonly value still

[calm nebula]

...I swear I tested this before and it threw an error at me

[lucid iron]

can you do it more than once

[calm nebula]

why did I think it broke?

I absolutely remember testing this

[lucid iron]

well there u go assault is possible

it could be jank nonsense in monogame

stopping u for unrelated reason

[dusk mulch]

Is it possible to make a tile so that you can plant crops and till them without it being on the farm?

[calm nebula]

maybe it was a static readonly

[lucid iron]

you can make anywhere plantable now

[calm nebula]

AHAH

<#making-mods-general message>

it WAS static readonly

(because the jitter wanted to optimize that shit)

question to the linqpad-users

7 works fine on my laptop

8 is laggy as fuck and keeps crashing

why

[dusk mulch]

Will this work or do I need seperate objects?

[lucid iron]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Location_data

[lucid iron]

CanPlantHere

[gentle rose]

cursed

[lucid iron]

theres also location context

[brittle pasture]

I dont use linqpad and also a dumdum pls gib answer

[lucid iron]

though hm ig that one didnt have planting related stuff (i thought id did)

[calm nebula]

I'm updating linqpad again

[dusk mulch]

Will this work or do I need separate objects?

[lucid iron]

what even is linqpad

[calm nebula]

https://www.linqpad.net/linqpad8.aspx

[gentle rose]

it’s generally not great etiquette to bump a message when your previous one was two minutes ago and still visible on screen. If we had an answer we would have answered.

[calm nebula]

it was static readonly

(I updated linqpad and it's stable now.)

[brittle pasture]

anyway it works, crimes free

[nova gale]

does the TABLEMACHINE make tables?

[gentle rose]

so it works but is boring and reliable

[brittle pasture]

yes

[lucid iron]

just so you know CanPlantHere is a location data

to make the tile tillable you need tiledata dirt, which the default spring outdoors has already

[dusk mulch]

Oh good lord, the farmer base sprites are terrified

[dusk mulch]

I just made it diggable

[nova gale]

so it's a self replicating table? the mother of the table apocolypse? I'm down

[tender bloom]

😆 can't do that if the class has never been taught before

[calm nebula]

you know, sometimes I think roslyn could do a little more constant folding

[nova gale]

these days you could probably feed the sylabus into chatgpt and have it make slides for you

they'll be wrong, but that's true of the 5 year old slides as well so /shrug

[tender bloom]

😭 nooo

I’m also not teaching strictly lecture based

[gentle rose]

what subject do you lecture in? maths?

[tender bloom]

Engineering

Some of which is secretly math

[gentle rose]

engineering is maths but you’re tired of mathematicians’ bullshit

and are a little less off your rocker than cs

[hot gale]

I might end up having to learn to make some frameworks I want but seemingly don't exist

[dusk mulch]

Is there a right facing cash register sprite?

[naive wyvern]

nope

every cash register is front facing

or, I guess back facing

[royal stump]

there're the flatscreen-looking things in jojamart, if those are any help

[naive wyvern]

oh i hadnt considered those actually
i was thinking of the one you see at Pierre's shop

[royal stump]

actually I guess the thing above them might be the register? I'm not sure

[naive wyvern]

thats fancy

[ornate locust]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/32021 Filled out missing furniture color pieces, flipped them to the side and back, flipped chimneys to the side, and added more deco items.

Would appreciate if someone could boost for me with that update info. I've been really happy messing with them as decoration myself in testing

[dusk mulch]

i need something like the one from pierre

orrr

maybe i can try that one

Why are there no sideways doors either 😭

[lucid iron]

Update from @ornate locust:

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/32021
Filled out missing furniture color pieces, flipped them to the side and back, flipped chimneys to the side, and added more deco items.

[ornate locust]

Thank you! I really liked redoing my map using these pieces and I hope other people will have fun with them

[lucid iron]

Huh u can replace the special

[hard fern]

Huh

What does Odin's rage do

[hot gale]

This

[hard fern]

Oh my phone refused to load the gif

Does it smite your enemies

[hot gale]

Yeah it does damage

[lucid iron]

But wait what is the cp thing giving it an enchantment

Last i checked that was c# land

[hot gale]

Advanced Melee Framework

[lucid iron]

Right ok

[brisk wedge]

What happens if you add an item to the players inventory during a player.inventorychanged event listener?

[lucid iron]

You get another event i think?

Can get infinite recursion yes

[brisk wedge]

Does my event listener finish running before the another event triggers the listeners again?

[lucid iron]

Are u using the smapi one or the game one

[hot gale]

Whirlwind I guess?

[brisk wedge]

I think the smapi one? It's the ones listed in the modding wiki for events

[lucid iron]

Ig it's probably important to ask what u wanna do too

The smapi one might need next tick, unsure

[lucid mulch]

stardew and smapi are both singlethreadded, so there wont be concurrency.
so only one event handler can be running at a time, and all the event handlers need to finish before smapi/stardew can go back to doing other things

[brisk wedge]

Oh ok nice

[lucid mulch]

But that doesnt stop other events from triggering as a response to what you did in your event handler

[hot gale]

Explosion AoE

[lucid mulch]

For example, during a LocationChanged event handler, you can mark an asset as being invalidated, which would trigger the invalidate event to occur and all those event handlers will run, and assuming a vanilla asset, during that invalidation will be smapi telling vanilla to load it again, which will cause the AssetRequested event and its handlers, etc

and only after all of that, will your original locationchanged event handler finish, and the next locationchanged handler wil lrun

[brisk wedge]

Wait so if my listener is do a, invalidate asset, do b, and there's a listener for asset invalidation that does c, is the order do a, invalidate asset, do c, do a?

Last one should be do b oops

Like do the other listeners that get triggered by events queue up waiting for me to finish first or do they just go immediately

[lucid mulch]

smapi events trigger immediately, there isn't a queue

for example, this is a ContentPatcher warp event (LocationChanged in CP jargon), but within it, is a bunch of asset invalidations causing assetrequested events, all having to be handled while that original warp event handler is going

Profiler builds a logical stack to track it, because my original logic of just timing events in isolation got weird things like "why does content patcher sometimes take multiple seconds to do a warp", but its due to triggering other events and they took ages

[brisk wedge]

Hm ok sad I will think about this later

Thank you for the info ❤️

[undone jewel]

I think I did the layout correctly for a rotating furniture, type as bookcase but it looks like this when i go test it

this is what the tilesheet looks like and the cabinet load in the game perfectly fine

[naive wyvern]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Making_Custom_Furniture_With_CP

might be an issue with spacing, furniture spritesheets are a little picky

scroll down to Sprite Indices

[hard fern]

😔 hmm ive been using a lot of hxw tilesheets for my maps and stuff, but i wonder if it's better to make furniture stuff from scratch instead

[undone jewel]

i have the indices correct since the front facing furniture loads and is placed down fine

[undone jewel]

you mean the coding or the art?

[hard fern]

the art

the code is trivial

[undone jewel]

hmmm i enjoy doing it from scratch while looking up pixel art inspo

Hxw does lovely work so i see perfect for a starting point ^^

[hard fern]

since i already have to make a lot of custom furniture for my maps, i feel like maybe it would just be better to go all-in

[undone jewel]

i say do it hehe

[naive wyvern]

i think making your own furniture is nice c:
good practice for objects imo

[hard fern]

hm still have no idea what to name my mod

[naive wyvern]

the front facing furniture is easier to check for, and its good its working right
Its what comes after (like side and back view) thats a little more difficult 😭
i had the same issue with some of my objects, its why I thought it might be a spacing issue

[undone jewel]

i see hmm its showing it as a weird cropped

TwT

[hard fern]

hm maybe i should move all the bathroom furniture to its own tilesheet

oh

[undone jewel]

does the side have to be the same size as the front facing?

[hard fern]

i believe there's some funky rotation stuff that goes on in furniture

[naive wyvern]

no it doesnt have to be the same size, looking through the wiki link i sent earlier has a lot of furniture that arent sized the same but works fine

its a matter of nudging things around in my experience

[undone jewel]

hmm ive layed it as the guide but lemme try move them around

tyty

[naive wyvern]

good luck, i do really like the progress you have so far

very cute!

[undone jewel]

thank you

[hard fern]

😔 for some reason im weirdly bothered that i drew vanilla styled furniture

it's just not really something im used to

[naive wyvern]

i wouldnt have believed you, because your buildings look so good with vanilla style 😔

you have the eye and knack for it forsy

[hard fern]

i'll probably take a whack at making my own grocery store furniture first

since it's the map i have the most confidence in

😅 i dunno how vanilla i'd manage to make it though

[ornate locust]

I have a question. If I want to make a map change on a specific day and for it to stay for the rest of the game, how would I set up the conditions on that?

[naive wyvern]

when in doubt, open towninterior

[naive wyvern]

sounds like a When condition

using Day

and Season

[ornate locust]

But wouldn't the change just exist on that day and then go away?

[naive wyvern]

yeah, im trying to look through docs rn to see how to make it permanent

[ornate locust]

Yeah that's the part I'm not sure on

[naive wyvern]

i havent fiddled with it myself yet, but I thiiiink Mail Flags are what you want

or GSQs

(Game State Queries)

maybe those are good starting points

[ornate locust]

Ah, GSQ, I at least know where the documentation is on that. Thanks, I'll have a look

[naive wyvern]

(hello more experienced cheetos, if im wrong, you have every right to pulverize me to cheesy pauder thank u)

[ornate locust]

ooh Date Range might do it

[naive wyvern]

hell yeah time to test

[ornate locust]

"Action" : "EditMap" , "Target" : "Maps/MunicipalFloor2" , "FromFile" : "Assets/Maps/MunicipalFloor2Fish2.tmx" , "ToArea" : { "X" : 15 , "Y" : 3 , "Width" : 2, "Height" : 3 }, "Condition": "DATE_RANGE Winter 14 1", "Priority": "Late",

This does not work, so I assume I'm getting the syntax wrong

I think I'm gonna do "days played"

[royal stump]

CP doesn't have a condition field directly; DaysPlayed should be fine, but the alternative is using a trigger action to set a mail flag, and have your map patch look for that flag in "When"

(I did add a GSQ token in EMP, but it's overkill in this case )

[cyan yacht]

i am looking for mods to play in multiplayer. if anyone knows ones to make the mines better mainly. i am not fully sure. i would just like to find mods to play with some of my friends. if anyone ahs a list can you pm them to me

[dusk mulch]

Well I have almost got the supermarket and another NPC done, 1 more building and 2 more NPC's

[dusk mulch]

#modded-stardew

[latent mauve]

I got three more character spritesheets done today! 😄

Still working on:

• Wolf Link (side view)
• Nabooru (side view)
• Purah (side view)
• Robbie
• Midna
• Tingle
• Sidon
• Mipha
• Ghirahim
• Addison

And then if I'm not burned out on spritesheets, I can try to knock out the optional/post-release charcters: Urbosa, Riju, and Daruk.

But that's ALL THAT'S LEFT for the mod art!

[dusk mulch]

OMG YOUR MAKING THE ZELDA BOTW CHARACTERS IN SDV?!

Also, can someone help? My warp isn't working.

[mighty ginkgo]

what's the problem with the warp exactly?

[dusk mulch]

It just doesn't work

Like it doesn't exist

[ornate locust]

Days Played works fine. Minor annoyance: Setting the day with CJB does not increment days played so you gotta hit the bed over and over and over

[dusk mulch]

It doesnt do anything

I will try again

[mighty ginkgo]

oh right, looks like it should be Warp instead of Warps https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps#Warps_.26_map_positions

[dusk mulch]

[violet grotto]

Does anyone happen to know what these sprites for the Shadow Brutes and their dangerous variants are used for, or if they're used at all?

Been a while since I last played, and I don't recall them ever using these.

If they're not used for anything, then that would make creating variants for these much easier.

[ornate locust]

Are those not attacks?

Looks like swinging his arms

[violet grotto]

I know, but they usually just run at you. At least as far as I can tell.

The wiki didn't mention any special attacks for the normal and dangerous version.

[dusk mulch]

god i regret taking on this giant project, but im in too deep now

[hard fern]

sunk cost fallacy

[cosmic forge]

Is there any way to invoke right/left click by c#? I want to play game only with gamepad but some mod need mouse click.
So I tried to make mod to right/left click event mod, but I cannot find document about it.

[proud wyvern]

can't you use Steam Input for that

[dreamy arrow]

You can get a mouse cursor using a gamepad with a right analog stick. This works even better if you disable "Controller Style Menus" in the game settings. With the cursor active, A & X act as left and right click.

For handling clicks in mods most menus and objects have their own receiveLeftClick and receiveRightClick callback methods that you can hook into. There is no global click handling.

[calm nebula]

It's actually debouncrd

That event

You'll get another inventory changed the next tick

[swift needle]

is it possible to edit fruit cave loot using FTM?

[calm nebula]

Add to? Yes

Edit? No

[orchid glade]

Eee!

[hard fern]

Nice

[tidal stone]

if i put /w tuesday/ in my string of code for heart event will it make it were it has to be tuesday to see it?

also idk if anyone would know this because it's for the loft apartments mod but would I put this code in my content json?

like would I put that in the json for my character npc?

[flat sluice]

/w is for weather, isn't it? https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Event_data
I'd try /DayOfWeek Tue, but no guarantees.

[vernal crest]

It's better if you use the new names for event preconditions rather than the old way of using single letters. So use DayOfWeek Tue.

[tidal stone]

Oooh ok

[vernal crest]

And yes, it looks like you need to put that into your content.json (or another file) and then edit it to what you need it to be.

[tidal stone]

ok ty sm!

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/fd6db501749444aa91fff571b278dc9a
it says I need to put quotations I believe but shoudl I put them like
"x": 54
"7": 21
and do set properties with quotes?

[flat sluice]

It was more than that, here is the fixed one:
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/04fb02f94a7640c2a5818d90ad281ee2

[tidal stone]

OOh I see what I did wrong now, thank you

Hmm, I did something else wrong as it doesnt appear to have locked the door

[flat sluice]

Hi,
maybe a stupid question, but when I extracted the Strings\Movies.xnb file and opened it, I found out that for films like Brave Little Sapling, there are all dialogues, but for another ones, like Mysterium, there are some missing (for Mysterium it is 3, 4, 6, 7, 9), so... Where to find the missing ones?

[tidal stone]

i forgot I set my friendship up with her in this save ☠️

[flat sluice]

Well, that might be it

[tidal stone]

im so bad at writing dialogue but I guess that'll come with practice

[flat sluice]

It will, don't worry...

[vernal crest]

You can do a find in files search over the entirety of the Stardew content. But I just did that for Mysterium_Scene3 and got nothing, so my guess is that either there are scenes without dialogue or the numbering just doesn't match up (maybe it was longer but he cut content).

[lucid comet]

I'm trying to play around with tilesheets and things aren't working like i thought they would, so maybe i'm misunderstanding something fundamental here: can you use a (already loaded) tilesheet with EditImage or are you only supposed to use tilesheets in tiled for map making?

[vernal crest]

Are you trying to use the loaded tilesheet as the source image or the target image? You can target a vanilla or other mod's tilesheet that has been loaded by the game. You can't use one that's been loaded to edit another one, since EditImage requires a FromFile field that points to an actual image file in your mod folder.

[lucid comet]

as the source

i know it works as a target, but i wasnt sure the FromFile needs it in the folder

(since EditMap can apparetly do that - if i can read the documentation right o.o")

[vernal crest]

No, you can't use EditMap to edit one map in the game's content pipeline with another.

[lucid comet]

i was looking at this part:

Content Patcher will handle tilesheets referenced by the FromFile map for you:

If a tilesheet isn't referenced by the target map, Content Patcher will add it for you (with a z_ ID prefix to avoid conflicts with hardcoded game logic). If the source map has a custom version of a tilesheet that's already referenced, it'll be added as a separate tilesheet only used by your tiles.
If you include the tilesheet file in your mod folder, Content Patcher will use that one automatically; otherwise it will be loaded from the game's Content/Maps folder.

[vernal crest]

Which part are you interpreting to mean that?

[lucid comet]

the "Content Patcher will handle tilesheets referenced by the FromFile" .... i read that as "you can use/reference tilesheets that are loaded into the game's Content/Maps"

but like i said: i might have misunderstood a fundamental here x)

so that is only for maps

[vernal crest]

Yes, you can use tilesheets that are in Content/Maps in maps. The reason you can do it is because the maps themselves are just xml files that contain instructions that the game uses to build the visuals we see. Part of those instructions are information about which tilesheets tiles are pulled from and the game code looks in certain places for those tilesheets.

[lucid comet]

yeah, i looked into those which was when the "wait a moment ... am i misunderstanding this?" came ^^

[vernal crest]

Here's an example of that from one of my maps using the townInterior tilesheet

[lucid comet]

and since you have the . it skips the local file and uses what is actually loaded

[vernal crest]

Yup that's right, though that's just for testing because I would not actually include the townInterior.png file with my mod when I release it, since that'd just be needlessly distributing an unedited vanilla asset.

I probably won't bother actually removing the periods from the image source line though because I am lazy lol

I have custom tilesheets too but they also won't be in the folder with the map when I release it. Instead, they will be in a subfolder called "tilesheets". I'll Load the tilesheets into the game's content pipeline so they will function the same way as vanilla tilesheets. I will do that so other mods can edit my tilesheets if they want to (for things like recolours or if someone really wants to replace my furniture with ones they've drawn instead or something).

For editing a tilesheet itself, if you wanted to, say, recolour all the beds in town to be bright pink, you'd need to create a tilesheet containing those beds that you would publish and use EditImage with your tilesheet as FromFile to target the relevant vanilla tilesheets.

[lucid comet]

that part i know pretty well, just misunderstood how you're supposed to use tilesheets provided by others ^^

[vernal crest]

Ah, I see. Sorry, I thought you were trying to use one tilesheet to edit another tilesheet, not use a tilesheet mod like Lumisteria's Tilesheets or HxW Tilesheets in your map. The reference to EditImage threw me off I think.

It's very easy to use tilesheets from others' mods in your map. You treat them exactly like vanilla tilesheets except that you add a dependency to the tilesheet mod in your manifest before you publish.

So: in your map folder during editing, delete before publishing.

(Or you put your map into a big tilesheet-filled folder for editing, move it into your mod folder for publishing, if you prefer).

[lucid comet]

i was trying neither

but you helped me anyway, to tyvm

[vernal crest]

I am very confused about what you're doing then

How are you trying to use a tilesheet?

You may not have permission to use someone else's tilesheet if you're not using it to make a map like I described.

[lucid comet]

i was thinking you could use a tilesheet mod (in this case DNT), to edit the mine tilesheet

as far as i know that is allowed for personal use?

[vernal crest]

If it's for personal use, yup.

And I assume this discussion helped you realise that in order to do so, you will need a copy of DaisyNiko's tilesheet in your own mod folder to make the edit?

Or edit DNT to add the edit code patch in, if you'd rather do it that way and don't mind the risk of losing it if DaisyNiko updates it.

[lucid comet]

i learned how you are supposed to use tilesheet mods, i think? for mapmaking, not editing other tilesheets

^^

[vernal crest]

Well, for personal use you can use them to edit other tilesheets if you want to.

You just can't do it the way you thought you might be able to.

[lucid comet]

ye, it's gonna be good old frankenstein a tilesheet and never show anyone my personal mod folder

i'm very well aware of the "you need permission if you want to use other peoples art in your published mods" - there is a reason i dont share my ui mod for example: if i dont get explicit permission, that thing stays on my pc ^^

even if it's "just" a color scheme, it would feel wierd to share that

[vernal crest]

That's cool. Sorry to mention it before but some people do not know the rules and/or etiquette and I like to give people a heads up about it so they can make decisions that are right for them (keep as personal mod vs ask for permission vs change idea, etc) ASAP.

[lucid comet]

i appreciate the heads up anyway - better for everyone to know what they can and can't do

[flat sluice]

I have another probably stupid question, or maybe just a confirmation:
Is
"summer_Thu": "{{Random:GOTO spring_Fri, GOTO spring, GOTO summer}}",
correct schedule randomization if I have these schedules (and also many others):

"spring": "610 WizardHouse 5 15 2/930 Town 72 54 2/1700 WizardHouse 12 2 2/2100 Custom_WizardBasement 13 5 0/2400 Custom_WizardBasement 23 6 2",
"spring_Fri": "610 WizardHouse 5 15 2/1300 Forest 16 30 1/1800 WizardHouse 2 16 3/2100 Custom_WizardBasement 13 5 0/2300 Custom_WizardBasement 23 6 2",
"summer": "610 WizardHouse 5 15 2/1100 Forest 52 98 0/1630 Custom_WizardBasement 13 5 0/2230 Custom_WizardBasement 23 6 2",

[calm nebula]

Should be fine

[dull forge]

when a target is looking for Maps/[name] where do i find the map name

lord i dont know what im doing

[lucid iron]

What do you mean by this

What's the actual error

[dull forge]

I'm trying to make a personal patch for MixedBag tilesheets and dirt to grass for vpr but im not sure what the map would be

or where to find it

i've never coded before

[lucid iron]

So this Target is the load target of the tilesheet you want to replace

Or edit

You have to look at the mod you tried to edit (dirt to grass?) to see where it loaded their things

But hm, are you actually trying to like

Edit mixedbag sheets that have dirt and replace them with the ones that are just grass?

[dull forge]

yes, i need to overlay a grass layer over the dirt in the mixedbag tilesheet

[lucid iron]

So then you would need to look at Load patches in the mixedbag tilesheets mod

Find the ones loading dirt, then just change FromFile to equivalent grass

This is bad for actually publishing but u can do it if it's just personal edit

[dull forge]

i am very confused, my apologies. i want to overlay grass on the dirt of six tilesheets in this folder, will it overlay if i change the fromfile?

[tender bloom]

No, you need to change the Target, not the FromFile

What is the original mod doing?

Original Mod
"FromFile": "assets/somewhere in this mod/some tilesheet"
"Target": "Maps/some tilesheet the original mod targets"

Your Mod
"FromFile": "assets/somewhere in your mod's folder/some tilesheet name"
"Target": "Maps/some tilesheet the original mod targets"

if you do this arrangement, you will edit the same thing as the original mod (make sure your edit applies after theirs or your edits will be erased by them)

[dull forge]

the original mod, dirt to grass, is adding a grass overlay to the dirt in vanilla stardew
what i want to do is add the same overlay to the dirt in MixedBag's tilesheets

im trying to find the target but im not sure how to

[tender bloom]

You cannot target their tilesheets directly. You can only target things in the vanilla game.

You can, however, target the same thing they do, but afterwards, as a way to target their effects

[dull forge]

i don't think i understand, but thank you for the guidance! i'll see what i can do

[eternal mortar]

how do I switch from the normal sprite to the beach sprite? Is that possible?

sorry im like stupid

[flat sluice]

Err... What do you mean?
Beach sprites that NPC have?
Your farmer's look?

[eternal mortar]

beach sprites that NPCs have, such as my custom character

[flat sluice]

By custom character you mean your farmer (the one you play for) or custom NPC you creating?

[eternal mortar]

the custom npc i am creating, apologies.

[flat sluice]

No problem.
Something like this should work:

 "LocationName |contains= WizardHouse, Custom_WizardBasement": "true"
      }```

But honestly I'm not sure how the game handles beach sprites/portraits.

[eternal mortar]

Alright, thank you!

[flat sluice]

Wait!

 "LocationName |contains=Beach": "true"
      }```

This is correct! (hopefully)

I used an example from my custom NPC, in which I use that one...

[lucid iron]

Don't do that use appearances

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Adding_Seasonal_Outfits_via_Appearances

[flat sluice]

Yeah, using these are better, but I couldn't for the love of god make them work...

[lucid iron]

That said beach (aka ginger island resort outfits) are special

[lucid iron]

You gotta make sure your precedences are correct

But yeah pls use those instead of editimage

They r already used for vanilla winter outfit

[flat sluice]

I'll try to do them again.

[hot gale]

It's a shame the monster framework hasn't been updated

Adding weapons made me want to add a bunch of new enemies to use them on

[lucid iron]

You can spawn enemy reskins if you want

And make dungeons with spacecore

The thing that lack real framework is unique monster AI

[hot gale]

Hmm that sounds intriguing

[lucid iron]

But i always feel that sdv combat in general limits what kinda mod u can make in that area

Players do not have that many choices

[hot gale]

I agree

[stable grotto]

for once you wake up (or shortly thereafter ):
you have to target Maps/fall_z_dirtpath and the remaining seasons in your code
here's the original code block taken from the aptly named dirtpath.json { "Action": "Load", "Target": "Maps/fall_z_dirtpath, Maps/spring_z_dirtpath, Maps/summer_z_dirtpath, Maps/winter_z_dirtpath", "FromFile": "assets/{{Variant}}/{{TargetWithoutPath}}.png", },

[lucid iron]

This is kind of why i ended up pivoting to non combat abilities with trinkets

[hot gale]

I want to make some trinkets too

[lucid iron]

Yeah sure ask me anytime

[hot gale]

Thanks will do 😁

[lucid iron]

https://mushymato.github.io/TrinketTinker/

[hot gale]

Yeah I was looking at that framework last night actually

[lucid iron]

The hard part imo is

Making the animations

Ability wise it's fairly simple tho ofc dependent on what u want to achieve

[hot gale]

Right

Im gonna try to figure out how to add more magic to the game, have some ideas already

I'm now working on two mods at the same time lol

My mead mod and now this weapon pack

[tribal ore]

Ok, schedule question: I'm thinking about adding a marriage schedule that paths to a spot in the SpouseRoom (for a particular NPC, not for all of them). Is this safe or is this a bad idea?

I know that stuff in the farm house is fraught with danger generally

[rigid musk]

I didn't even know you could do schedules in the farm house

[lucid iron]

Wouldn't u break every modded farmhouse

[calm nebula]

You can't normally path in the farmhouse

You can kinda fake it but it becomes messy in MP

[tribal ore]

Yep, so basically what I was expecting. Glad I checked in first with you guys

I was just kinda hoping that, since it was the SpouseRoom (which is mostly constant) that it would be ✨ special ✨

[tidal stone]

!maps

!makingmaps

how do you trigger the map links again?

[fossil osprey]

!mapmaking

[ocean sail]

If you want to make mods that add or edit maps:

1. Use Tiled to edit .tmx or .tbin files.

2. Refer to the Maps wiki page for details on how maps work in Stardew Valley.

3. Content Patcher allows you to create custom locations through editing Data/Locations

4. Vanilla Maps can be edited via Content Patcher as well: EditMap

To use this command, type !mapmaking.

[tidal stone]

thank you!

[tidal stone]

ok quick question about tiled, if I want to create a map should I use Springoutdoors tilesheet for that for the grass and dirt or is there a more optimal tilesheet to use?

[rough lintel]

thats the only one w grass and dirt on it so

lol

[tidal stone]

aaah ok

[lucid iron]

There's a few more actually

Grass dirt border tiles added in 1.6 and used in meadowlands

[sleek flint]

Can someone guide me to a doc on CustomFields in CP?

[lucid iron]

And you can grab modded tilesheets if you need

[lucid iron]

There's not really a guide because customfields is a string string dict specifically for mods to pass data

What are you trying to do is my question

[sleek flint]

Basically I made a very simple framework, and it currently only works for the ShopID that I specify. So, I want it so if someone adds a true value in CustomFields it activates the framework for that shop.

[tidal stone]

I just learned how to make the tile smaller so i can grab just grass lesgo

[lucid iron]

From C# side it'd be something like
if ((data?.CustomFields?.TryGetValue("yourModID.YourCustomFieldName", out string? truthyStr) ?? false) && bool.TryParse(truthyStr, out bool truth))

From CP side it'd be normal edit data

https://github.com/Mushymato/MiscMapActionsProperties/blob/main/[CP] Vulkan Farm Cave/content.json#L74

What does the framework do

[final folio]

Hi, one question, the messages that are accompanied by the query message "ConditionalDoor", where can I find them?

Never mind, i thing so finded

[sleek flint]

Thanks Chu!

[sleek flint]

It adds filter tabs to catalogues or any custom shop menu you want.

Since modded catalogues can't have filter tabs.

[lucid iron]

Happy home designer 2

You should rewrite the shop menu it'll be great and Compatible trust

[tidal stone]

omg making maps is so much fun but omg i did not anticipate hpw big i would need this map to be >.<

the tiles sound like more than they are does anyone know how many tiles is in the town or another map for example

i wanna make this decently sized lol

[lucid iron]

Something i recommend is making a small map and make sure u understand everything needed to load a map into game first

[tidal stone]

hmm 🤔 i guess thats fair, then this will be a practice map

[lucid iron]

There's a lot of fiddly around maps for sdv that tiled doesn't handle bc it's a general program

[tidal stone]

I assume editing the tile sheets is allowed?

like turning them

because some of these almost fit but they arent turned right for me

[lucid iron]

You can rotate and flip tiles yes, as long as you save a tmx

[tidal stone]

yippe

[lucid iron]

Remember to have the tilesheet in same folder as map

But only while you edit

[tidal stone]

does anyone know what tilesheet the till is? the little ticket thing for using the train/bus

[shadow pagoda]

So I thought I could easily check if a item can be currently donated for a CC bundle by calling the couldThisIngredienteBeUsedInABundle function from the CommunityCenter class, but that doesn't seem to be the case. It could be also how I'm getting the desired items. I'll explain my code and then explain the issues to give context.

So I'm getting bundlesIngredientsInfo from the CommunityCenter object as I thought that would tell me all of the items needed to complete the community center. While it technically does, there are some bundles that accept more items than there are slots, like the Exotic Foraging Bundle. That's issue #1 with this data structure. When I convert the data from that variable into an item, I am taking up space with unnecessary items as I don't need them all in a list.

The second issue I have is that bundlesIngredientsInfo doesn't seem to be giving me the correct information all of the time. I completed all of the bundles except except the ones in the Boiler Room and Bulletin Board. So I would assume that the bundlesIngredientsInfo would only have data related to those items. But it only has the apple (issue #2) which I have no idea why.

There are other issues with this, but I believe these are the main two I'm stuck on that I have no idea of figuring out. I really just want to way to know which bundles are incomplete (if any), how many items slots are empty, and what are the valid items for that bundle. Here's my code on github. Does anyone know any other variables I should be looking at?
https://github.com/BlckHawker/Instant-Community-Center-Cheat/blob/main/ModEntry.cs

[pine elbow]

Does anyone know how to convert from Button to Keys? I made a mod to change the keys in the game Journey of the Prairie King.
And I'm trying to implement it with the generic mod menu so that people can choose which keys they're going to use.
But the generic mod menu to map keys uses the class: StardewModdingApi.SButton, while the mini game uses Microsoft.XnaFramework.Input.Keys.

Is there any way to convert the keys from one format to the other?

[calm nebula]

There is a tryparse extension method iirc

[pine elbow]

And how does it work?

[faint ingot]

what is the correct way to update portraits/sprites for spirit's eve so they use the alternative version for the festival but not if you see them somewhere else that day?

[brittle pasture]

appearances probably

the answer to all of life's questions, if said questions involve conditional npc appearances

[lean verge]

i can’t mod but i saw this comment and wanted to share it lmao

[faint ingot]

have a wiki or github link by chance?

[brittle pasture]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:NPC_data#Appearance_.26_sprite

[pine elbow]

Does anyone know if there is a way to register keystrokes in the generic mod menu using Microsoft Framework.Input Keys, instead of using SButton?

[faint ingot]

Thank you, citizen

[uncut viper]

why would you want to

[pine elbow]

Because I capture the keys in the generic mod menu, they come in the SButton format, and I want to pass them inside the key code of the game Journey of the Prairie King, which uses the Keys format of the Microsoft XNA Framework.

or would there be a way for the generic mod menu to capture the key in the format I need, or a way to convert the key from one class to another

[calm nebula]

The first method is the one you want

[gentle rose]

feel free to add this screenshot to the mod ideas repo with a link to the video it's on if it's SFW haha

[pine elbow]

I didn't understand how to use this, the code is incomplete, it doesn't explain in this image what to do. It's a bunch of ifs

[brittle ledge]

I mean the horse is an NPC, they should be allowed to have dialogue 😌

[tawny ore]

Maybe familiarize yourself with C#'s TryGet convention because it's commonly used for a lot of things

[gentle rose]

I think it should be an event

do you think we can convince dolphin to make a horse portrait? seems up their alley

[urban patrol]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/3f7f8bb1070d4b849b663c911684a7b5 there are other issues with my event, but to start, why does my NPC walk off the screen? he didn't do that before i added the move EdwinPayne 1 0 0 before the move EdwinPayne 0 -1 2.

other random issues:

• random rug tile showing up when it's not in Tilex
• viewport -1000 -1000 doesn't seem to put the camera out far enough/it's like it gets stopped
• i would like for the waterSloshes to play the whole time he's stirring and the farmer is walking, and i'm not sure i wrote that correctly in the code
• the cauldron front/back layers aren't displaying like i'd hoped--is there a way to have the cauldron on the front layer like it's supposed to be, with his animation over top of that?
• my fork is clearly messed up

[tawny ore]

@pine elbow here's a random blog post I found about the TryGet pattern, it's relevant to this method, and it would be good for you to understand since it's used so frequently in C# code.
https://zogface.blog/2017/08/03/using-the-tryget-pattern-in-c-to-clean-up-your-code/

[hallow prism]

try a pause between the stop anim command and the move

sometimes you need to pause stuff so they have actually time to finish

my experience with another event was that not having time to properly finish the anim was causing issue

[urban patrol]

sick i'll try that

[final folio]

Is it possible to set up an extra dialog for the "Mines_PlayerKilled" command for spouses?

[pine elbow]

It was difficult, but I think I understand, thanks, I'll try

if(Instance.Config.MoveUp.TryGetKeyboard(out Keys key))
{
____binds[GameKeys.MoveUp] = new List<Keys>(new Keys[1] { key });
}

like this?

[tawny ore]

I think if you're using lang version latest, you can shorthand that to just = [key] but don't quote me on that.

[dusk mulch]

I forgot to move the NPC's default tile after moving his room... oops.

[urban patrol]

doesn't seem to have fixed it unfortunately :( what's ironic is that it was working before i put the first move command in

[tawny ore]

@pine elbow this should work

if (Instance.Config.MoveUp.TryGetKeyboard(out var keys))
{
    ___binds[GameKeys.MoveUp] = [keys];
}

[faint ingot]

Hmmm I tried this and nothing seems to be happening during the festival: "Appearance":[ { "Id": "Default", "Portrait":"Portraits/{{Russell}}", "Sprite":"Characters/{{Russell}}", }, { "Id":"SpiritsEve", "Condition":"IS_EVENT festival_fall27", "Portrait":"Portraits/{{Russell}}_SpiritsEve", "Sprite":"Characters/{{Russell}}_SpiritsEve", } ]

[calm nebula]

Look up precedence

(Thanks, Matt)

I'm vaguely checking in in between waiting for work software to do things so I'm not really paying attention

[faint ingot]

That was it, thank you!

[hard fern]

Omg poor penny

[gentle rose]

isn't that a vanilla line? I recognise it for some reason

[faint ingot]

No I wrote it, at least I think I did?

[ornate locust]

I have a question for people who know things about Fashion Sense: Accessory layering. Does anyone else have a problem where an accessory is set to ignore color information, but that immediately fails and changes the color when any other accessory (even the same one) is layered?

[dusk mulch]

just spent 20 minutes trying to figure out why a schedule wouldn't work, i had the numbers in the wrong spots

[hot gale]

Trying to understand how to apply SpaceCore buffs to an item, doesnt appear as though I did this right, how would I go about fixing this?

https://smapi.io/json/none/7a1f2d86da234ae6ba03de125c50c255

[dusk mulch]

My NPC isnt doing the animation in their schedule, can someone help? https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/7cd8ec11768a458e89b3b9322df6fc63 (Line 52 and Line 77 are relevant)

[brittle pasture]

CustomFields, not CustomAttributes

[hot gale]

Ahh ty!

Is there an Edibility calculator out there somewhere rofl

[tidal stone]

do you need to set how to interact with certain tiles in the tile sheet before you put them on the map, is that what tile collision is?

[dusk mulch]

collisions are based on what layer you put them on (i think)

[tidal stone]

aah ok

[ornate trellis]

you mean how much health and energy it gonna give? wiki states

energy (edibility × 2.5) and health (edibility × 1.125)

[reef kiln]

That looks great, can't wait to see Shannon's costume.

[tidal stone]

i have come to the realisation i must watch a video about how to use tiled

[dusk mulch]

Got to start somewhere

[rotund elm]

Heyo, quick question about recipes for crafting/cooking, is it better practice to use your mod id in a recipes key or just the name for the item like "{{ModId}}_SushiRoll" or "Sushi Roll"

[latent mauve]

Best practice is to include the ModId for the internal names/ID

Never know when someone else has also added their own Sushi Roll items.

[rotund elm]

Yea I have less vaguely name items but noticed I should probably fix that before adding more recipes to save future me XD

the example I was looking at does not so I was wondering if it is a formatting thing but that answers that too

Thank ya : )

[calm nebula]

I have vague memories of spacecore having health/stamina overrides for foods/drinks

[rancid musk]

Yup, SpaceCore's Vanilla Asset Expansions has overrides.

[urban patrol]

are you trying to have him loop three frames or just one?

[dusk mulch]

I just want to get these frames running so that I can add more later

[urban patrol]

i was trying to see if by not doing the animation you meant he’s just standing there or if he appears frozen

[dusk mulch]

he is just standing there, his normal animation plays

(the breathing one)

[urban patrol]

did you sleep to reload the schedule?

[latent mauve]

Your code has only one frame in the 'repeating frames' section if your animation description, so if you are looking to have them repeat you may need to add the other frames to the middle section of the / marks so it's persistently animating?

<entry frames>/<repeating frames>/<leaving frames> is the format, IIRC.

[dusk mulch]

i just want the 1 frame to happen then i can add more frames when i get it working#making-mods-general message

[latent mauve]

Ah, sorry, I saw that comment but misunderstood

[dusk mulch]

All good

[urban patrol]

does he go about his schedule except for the animation? have you double checked that the sprites are in the correct location on the spritesheet?

[dusk mulch]

I will check that

And yes he does follow his schedule as normal

[calm nebula]

Npcs will breathe regardless

Ignore that

[dusk mulch]

Ugh, imagine breathing. Couldnt be me

[hard fern]

Do NPCs only breathe if you set "breather" to true

[calm nebula]

Yes

[dusk mulch]

okay so i checked the sprites and it was wrong

[hot gale]

Why is spacechase0.SpaceCore/HealthRegeneration killing my character rofl

[hard fern]

Oh cool so i can just make my NPC not breathe

[dusk mulch]

wish i could do that with pierre

Ayyy the animation works!

[reef kiln]

Poor Pierre, gets all the hate

[dusk mulch]

Can I make the animation go a bit slower? Like do "17/18 18 19 19/20" so it does 18 twice so it is a bit slower?

[urban patrol]

yes, each frame is 120 ms i believe

[dusk mulch]

yayyyyy

its just he is cleaning VERY aggressively

[hot gale]

Any way to fix the text on the bottom?

[hard fern]

Your description may be too long

[hot gale]

Ahhh

Nope lol

[hard fern]

Oh

Hmm

[brittle pasture]

it shouldn't be a problem... probably a SC bug

[hot gale]

Maybe no description at all

[hard fern]

Wacky

[hot gale]

I mean no description fixes it lmao but no way to know how much HP they restore

They dont even get a name or anything lmao

no hover popup at all

Well if there isnt anything I can do about it, best to not worry about it I guess :p

[dusk mulch]

OH MY GOD FINALLY i have been trying to find a spot for my NPC to stand and do an animation so the animation looks good and I finally found a spot

I don't think dale wants to put up with me anymore

[urban patrol]

you can use an offset instead of pathing him into the counter

[final folio]

I want to replicate the text line of the "ExtraDialogue" file the one in "Mines_PlayerKilled_Matu_Spouse" But for another character, is this possible?

[hot gale]

These came out nice

[hard fern]

Oh the bottles are so cute

[crude plank]

Yes, love the bottles

[tidal stone]

I really dont understand maps, do i use code or something within tiled to make it register as a specific thing? like a door or something

[reef kiln]

If I remember right, there is an entire guide to doors. Let me see if i can find it.

[tidal stone]

[reef kiln]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Kailey's_Interior_Door_Guide

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Kailey's_Interior_Door_Guide

[tidal stone]

ty ill give this a read :3
making maps is a bit confusing but im excited for when i make it work

[reef kiln]

Oops, it went twice.

[urban patrol]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/4579b75a0a16428fa4bf75c756948b0a does anybody have advice for how i can time the explosion/flash/sprite animation better for when the cauldron explodes? also, i can't seem to write my fork properly. it keeps giving me [game] Event '019160002' has command 'fork laughAtEdwin' which couldn't be parsed: can't load new script from event asset 'Data\Events\Temp' because it doesn't contain the required 'laughAtEdwin' key.

oh and also the weird fade at the beginning--i can't figure out how to get the viewport to move to an all-black area

[vernal crest]

If I am understanding correctly, it's because you move to a temp map after starting the first event and then when you try to fork it's trying to find the laughAtEdwin key in the entry for that temp map instead. You'd have to either switch back to the actual DeadBoyAgency location before the fork or try editing Data/Events/Temp to add the fork entry into it (not sure if the latter will work).

I strongly urge switching to string event IDs instead of numbers, by the way. If you prefix with your mod ID they're guaranteed to be unique and a string is going to be a lot more descriptive than a number.

[urban patrol]

oh it doesn't have to be numbers? i'd much prefer to name it something like "edwinpayne_2hearts" or something. i haven't been using {{ModId}} in stuff even though i know it's good practice, because i was getting a weird error when i first started about containing . and so i just made my character names as unique as possible.

i'll try editing Data/Events/Temp, and if that doesn't work, i did end up making that temp map a real location, just not accessible from anywhere, for testing purposes. could i define the fork in there, do you think?

[vernal crest]

No, 1.6 made it possible for event IDs to be strings and it's now strongly encouraged to follow the unique string ID format. You should've seen that on the events page of the wiki - if you're following a tutorial for making events, make sure you cross-reference any information it gives you with the events page because every tutorial we have is out of date in one way or another.

As for not using {{ModID}}_, maybe try changing this event to use it and see if it works this time? You'd need to load a blank json into Data/Events/DeadBoyAgency (which should also ideally be using the unique string ID format) first.

If editing Data/Events/Temp doesn't work then you can try using the changelocation command instead of changeToTemporaryMap and putting the fork in there, yeah.

[urban patrol]

yeah, i'm doing a mix of following the wiki and studying how other mods do events. i cross-checked that huge spreadsheet of other mods' event IDs, but i'll happily change it to a string!

[vernal crest]

I'm not sure how to make the transition to the temp map smoother off the top of my head, so I'd suggest looking at vanilla events that use changeToTemporaryMap and also if you have some NPC mods try doing a find in files for it in them so you can see how they manage the transition. In addition to that, I'd experiment with pauses and the globalfade commands. A lot of event making is just tweaking a command, saving, then running patch reload and debug ebi.

I hope you are testing with debug ebi rather than exiting your save and reloading it or anything.

[calm nebula]

I think you need to add to data/events/temp

Basically

[urban patrol]

umm... i can now...? 😂

[vernal crest]

Same advice about experimenting with the timing for the cauldron explosion.

[vernal crest]

It makes things much easier because you can trigger the event regardless of precondition and you can run it as many times as you want.

[urban patrol]

if my event ID is {{ModId}}_edwin2hearts, would i use debug ebi {{ModId}}_edwin2hearts or replace ModId with the actual name.title

[vernal crest]

The latter

CP tokens don't exist anymore by the time the data is in game, because their purpose is to get CP to replace the token with the intended value before it passes the data to the game. That's why you can't use tokens in content that you Load, because CP passes that data directly to the game without editing it so it does literally send the {{ModId}} as a string instead of replacing it with your actual mod ID.

[urban patrol]

i see i see

[hard fern]

hm i had an idea to "hide" an npc's room by making a door open into nothing, and just having the player warp to their room instead

since even if you're too low friendship to get in

[rigid musk]

for people who make furniture mods, do you have an easy way to see the tilesheet indexes? it's really hard for me to find wher eeverything is without manually writing it out

[hard fern]

you can still see inside of it

[vernal crest]

Forsy, couldn't you just make the NPC's room a new location and use LockedDoorWarp to not let the farmer in until high enough friendship?

[hard fern]

yes that's what i was thinking of

[vernal crest]

Yes! Aseprite provides index numbers!

[vernal crest]

Oh I got confused about the "player warp to their room" and thought you meant that a player with too low friendship would warp back to the farmhouse when trying to get into the NPC's room xD

[hard fern]

Oh no XD

[vernal crest]

That would be very funny for a grumpy magic user though

[hard fern]

Idk maybe im getting really particular but i want to write an npc who is utterly closed off, so you can't even see what their room looks like until becoming friends with them

[rigid musk]

I know Aseprite has this but it doesn't really help me

[vernal crest]

Specifically you have to set your grid to 16x16 and then set it to show and then when you hover over one of the grid sections it will show you the index number down at the bottom. In this example you can't see my cursor but I'm hovering over the top tile of the leftmost plant above the Christmas tree and it's showing that the index is 1376.

Sorry, it took a moment for me to get the screenshot for the explanation.

[rigid musk]

oh my god this would have saved me so much time with my valentines day furniture mod thank you Aba

[vernal crest]

You're very welcome! I discovered it completely by accident when I was doing my AT to CP furniture conversions and it made everything so much faster.

You can use it for wallpapers and flooring too, you just have to change the grid size to 16x48 or 32x32 respectively.

[rigid musk]

"(This is just my guess, but I think it can be fixed by setting a dynamic token to the translation key. Something like 'use translation X when config Y is set to Z' might work out?)"

Once again I am met with my mortal enemy: Dynamic tokens
I have no clue how to use these and only just barely was able to get the schedule ones working with A LOT of help
(this is a part from a comment on my Qi mod about a translation not working for the tokens I have set for his his name, his name for the farmer, and his term of endearment for the farmer)

If I could get help with it... like im a wee child that you're trying to teach how to walk who doesn't know anything ever, I would appreciate it

[uncut viper]

i think more context is needed, i dont really understand what that comment is saying to do

[vernal crest]

I was about to offer help but Button is here

[dusk mulch]

Time to design another map.... Yayyyyyyy...

[vernal crest]

If they're referring to using a dynamic token to change the i18n key, that's straightforward.

[dusk mulch]

...Why on gods green earth is the museum called "ArchaeologyHouse"?

[uncut viper]

because its where archaeological artifacts go

[dusk mulch]

Yeah but it could be called "GuntherHouse" or "Museum", something a bit more... straight forward

[uncut viper]

depends on what the original intent was. its not like it would matter to CA when its all internal game stuff anyway

[dusk mulch]

eh, true

[latent mauve]

I mean, Robin's place is called ScienceHouse even though it houses the Carpenter shop

[vernal crest]

And Alex's house is called JoshHouse

[dusk mulch]

if CA doesn't fix it I will... Probably do nothing

./j

[rigid musk]

The Casino being called Club makes sense but it also annoys me because I have, on multiple occasions, called it 'Casino' when referring to maps in my code... Also a lot of the maps are named weirdly

[rigid musk]

My apologies heehoo - Mistyspring translated my mod into Spanish but the translation tokens I use that people can change via configs to switch what Qi calls them, and what his title is, don't change via the translation at all.

(i attatched the image they sent) They suggested I do Dynamic tokens for it but I don't really know how to do that at all

for context it looks as though it should be showing as this, not 'Kid' still

[vernal crest]

Can you show that line in the dialogue.json, the default.json, and the es.json?

[uncut viper]

as far as i know that just translates it on the config screen, it doesnt touch the actual value

[hard fern]

Alex's house is called joshhouse so

[uncut viper]

so you will need dynamic tokens yes

[calm nebula]

https://github.com/atravita-mods/StardewMods/blob/e83ec70f0619adf13be0deae04ca1258836067fa/ContentMods/[CP] Atra's Dialogue Expansion/content.json#L65

[rigid musk]

"Aos.FriendQiEvent4HAR2": "Remember {{QiPlayerTitle}}, there's never enough of anything.#$b#You might think you're done, you might think you could never need anything else, but when you least expect it you'll need more, want more.#$b#Always keep pushing, it'll be worth it.",

"Aos.FriendQiEvent4HAR2": "Recuerda {{QiPlayerTitle}}, nunca nada es suficiente.#$b#Puede que pienses que estás list${o^a^e}$, piensas que no podrías necesitar nada más, cuando menos lo esperes necesitarás más, querrás más.#$b#Siempre sigue empujando, valdrá la pena.",

it doesn't show up in the dialogue json because it's from an event but the command is:
"(break)speak {{ModId}}_TheMrQi \"{{i18n:Aos.FriendQiEvent4HAR2|QiPlayerTitle= {{QiPlayerTitle}}}}\"

Also I figured I would (considering it's what they suggested) but Dynamic tokens really... really confuse me, like REALLY confuse me

[uncut viper]

"DynamicTokens": [
  {
    "Name": "QiEndearment",
    "Value": "{{i18n: QiEndearment_MyHeart}}",
    "When": {
      "QiEndearmentTitle": "My heart"
    }
  },
  {
    "Name": "QiEndearment",
    "Value": "{{i18n: QiEndearment_MyDear}}",
    "When": {
      "QiEndearmentTitle": "My dear"
    }
  },
]

you will need several of these tokens for each version and to then put the titles in your i18n

atra's example is good to follow

[rigid musk]

I think I get it I think

[uncut viper]

(i edited the name of the token a bit itll be the same for all of them)

[calm nebula]

I love how my pet nonsense is entirely wrong now lol

Oh well

[uncut viper]

you will change the Value of your QiEndearment token to a different i18n depending on what the config is set to

an example with at least 2 is probably better so i updated my snippet for that too

[rigid musk]

Ohhh I see

what a fun venture this will be... I was hoping to not put out another update for like.. a week

[uncut viper]

then instead of using {{QiEndearmentTitle}} (the config token) you would use {{QiEndearment}} (the dynamic token) in the dialogue

remember that dynamic tokens cannot have the same name as a config token

[rigid musk]

To make it so that I don't have to change all of that out could I just change the config tokens

like change the name of those

[uncut viper]

yeah probably

[rigid musk]

because I would rather fade into the abyss than go through every single instance of that being used

[uncut viper]

im not sure what that affects with already existing config though

resets them to the default at the very least, i expect

for everyone

you can also do find and replace in your entire mod folder to replace the old tokens

though

if you're using them in anywhere other than dialogue, thatd be bad

[rigid musk]

the tokens being used from the config are in events an dialogue and in his npc name and a few other references throughout ... so a lot of places

TBF they should, theoretically, already be deleting the whole mod folder when installing new versions anyways...

(should)

[uncut viper]

i mean, i never delete the whole mod folder when updating a mod

unless the mod page tells me to

[tender bloom]

I do it

But I also only update like once a year

[rigid musk]

I always do cause I never know if someone restructured their mod for whatever reason y'know

[uncut viper]

for things that are displayed to the user the find and replace should be fine i meant more like

if you're using them for When conditions

[rigid musk]

Overwriting usually cause more issues at least from what ive done for mod updating... then again im neurotic about updating my mods

I will simply instruct them to delete the folder... the only thing it would really affect would be the config file anyways
I don't know where all of the instances are that I used the tokens but I know it's a lot and I know how I am and if I have to go in and find and replace all of them... it would probably end up with a disaster

or at least delete the config file to reload it

[vernal crest]

I also always delete the original folder - though I usually remove the config file first so I don't have to redo my config.

[rigid musk]

Very fair, I do the same thing unless the mod author mentions the config needing to be redone

Maybe if I put in big capital letters where you click download that they have to delete it it'll be fine... right... Right

[vernal crest]

I thought that Stardrop preserves the config and I was so disappointed when I found out it doesn't

[rigid musk]

I thought you could change it so that it does

I've only used it once or twice though so I could be wrong

[uncut viper]

tbc like i said i dont know if there are any issues besides resetting config. id expect not, but i just cant 100% confirm it one way or another

deleting the folder makes no d ifference in what happens here

(assuming there is no other issues)

[rigid musk]

it would also make it easier for the translators since they would only have to edit the config section of their jsons and not... the entire thing

[uncut viper]

the work for the translators is the same either way

[rigid musk]

I meant for the ones who already released translations not the new ones

[uncut viper]

the work for them is also the same either way

you are adding 11 things to your i18n, there is only 11 new things for a translator to translate no matter what you do

[rigid musk]

Not really? The tokens are referenced in their document, so they'd have to go through and change those (still a lot easier than what id have to do since they only have to find and replace for three things on one document) but -

no i meant for the tokens

if I change tokens referenced in the dialogue they would have to change it too

whereas if i just change the config tokens its easier on me and they also only have to deal with that section

[uncut viper]

no they would not

[rigid musk]

How so? it wouldn't be referenced right via the dynamic tokens no?

[uncut viper]

the tokens you would be using in dialogue would be your Dynamic Token, they dont touch those

either way, you need 11 more things in your i18n for the various titles and endearments. they are translating those no matter what

you use those i18ns in your dynamic tokens

[rigid musk]

exactly - but currently the tokens used via the configs ARE the tokens in the dialogue

[uncut viper]

there is no difference for the translators between you using the config token in dialogue or a new dynamic token in dialogue

[rigid musk]

"Aos.qiancientcacti.text": "@, ^Me di cuenta que has vendido una cantidad decente de fruta milenaria. Tu habilidad cultivando un cultivo tan elusivo me hace confiar en tu capacidad para intentar cultivar otro. Tiene condiciones de crecimiento muy específicas, así que debe ser plantado al interior o en un lugar abrigado. No las pierdas, hay muy pocas en el mundo. ^^ -Tu amigo, {{QiNameTitle}}Qi",

what I mean by that is this- if I had a Dynamic token that became "QiName" and referenced the config "QiNameTitle" I would have to change the instance in this dialogue line (as would the translator) to "QiName" instead of "QiNameTitle"

unless im understanding that incorrectly

[uncut viper]

okay, i misunderstood what you meant, thats my bad

i thought you thought they had to translate the dynamic tokens themselves, not the things they are used in

[rigid musk]

OH sorry! No that's not what I meant

[uncut viper]

quick question though

"config.QiEndearmentTitle.values.My_heart"
does this actually need to use an underscore instead of simply a space?

have you actually confirmed that it even does work with an underscore if the value itself does not have one?

[reef kiln]

Question about something that came up in the modded chat. They are an android player so I am guessing that is why. But they are able to use all the NPC warps. The ones the player is not supposed to have access too. Just wondering if anyone know why that would happen. More because I am curious how it would be possible then anything else. I told them to report it to the android people. So feel free to not engage in my speculation request.

[rigid musk]

I don't actually remember, I didn't see an example of a config using spaces... I figured it'd work with an underscore mostly because that's how other space conventions work? I suppose?
I'll be honest I did not confirm if that worked or not though I can see

[hot gale]

Can CP mods include sounds?

[uncut viper]

i might be missing an obvious reason why this wont work, but it has me wondering if you even need to use a dynamic token at all

[hot gale]

That can be called to like sounds can in other places

[dusk mulch]

Yes

[hot gale]

Awesome, ty!

[dusk mulch]

oops

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Audio

[uncut viper]

If you have a config token called QiEndearmentTitle for example, and it has an allowed value of My_heart with an underscore
and you have i18n so that on the config screen it actually looks like My heart with a space, so thats fine
Then if, for example, QiEndearmentTitle is currently set to My_heart, could you not do {{i18n: config.QiEndearmentTitle.values.{{QiEndearmentTitle}}}}, which would then show up as My heart?

since that is a valid i18n key in your default.json, after all, once it becomes config.QiEndearmentTitle.values.My_heart after the inner token resolves

(which is why it'd need an underscore i think, otherwise im pretty sure the space might break it in the i18n token? not sure though)

if t his worked though while you would get rid of dynamic tokens, it would also still need all the tokens to be replaced, so its not like, without its disadvantages

you could combine both, and make one dynamic token whose value is that i18n token, and do the thing with renaming your config

which would still require translators and you to fix the config section of your i18n json, but it'd mean only one dynamic token should be necessary for each of the configs, i think, so 2 in total instead of like, 11

[rigid musk]

Okay so... I got kinda lost with trying to understand what you were saying, but it looks like the underscores AREN'T needed (and in fact actually make it so the config translation showing properly doesn't work so that's... something I should have tested)

[uncut viper]

that is in line with what i woulda expected

if you're willing to do a test, can you change your i18n from "config.QiEndearmentTitle.values.My_heart" to "config.QiEndearmentTitle.values.My heart" (with a space)
and then see if {{i18n: config.QiEndearmentTitle.values.My heart}} works?

if it does, then people dont even need to lose their configs

[rigid musk]

Okay I did a test, (removing the _) and it works for the config display but I will still need something else for the translation...

I'm not sure what you mean by the second part though? Do you mean changing all of the tokens to that?

[uncut viper]

i just dont know if the space in the "My heart" part would make the i18n token not work correctly

so i guess you dont actually need to change anythingy ou can just open the game and do patch parse "{{i18n: etc}}"

[rigid musk]

the space made it work actually - it wouldn't show any changes in the config otherwise (i.e. when it was set as my_heart if I put "TEST" in as the translation it wouldn;t work, but it does when I just have it as my heart)

[uncut viper]

i dont mean in the key of your default.json

i mean if you try to use an actual i18n token

[rigid musk]

Do you mean like... putting a token IN the default json?

[uncut viper]

does patch parse "{{i18n: config.QiEndearmentTitle.values.My heart}}" in your smapi console work

does it correctly parse it

[uncut viper]

hmm

[rigid musk]

It shows up with what I have there in the config section... so there's that? I guess

[tidal stone]

this tutorial video im watching (its for another game so im checking in that thsi is correct) it says after you save your map you need to export it, what do i export it as?

[uncut viper]

they work differnetly so that doesnt surprise me

can you try patch parse "{{i18n: \"config.QiEndearmentTitle.values.My heart\"}}"?

[rigid musk]

so at least this part is working... at least..

[uncut viper]

sad. well, people will be losing their config no matter what then lol

okay, so, to recap, you will be changing your config names from QiEndearmentTitle, QiPlayerTitle, and QiNameTitle to just QiEndearment, QiPlayer, and QiName, so you dont have to change the tokens everywhere else

[rigid musk]

That's the intention yeah

[uncut viper]

you will also want to replace their allowedvalues

to replace spaces with underscores

so instead of "AllowValues": "My heart, My dear" you'd have "AllowValues": "My_heart, My_dear" for example

[rigid musk]

I already did that for those since I realized (which thank you very much for pointing it out, i dont know why I did it I think I just thought you needed the underscores for stuff with spaces like how you do in some parts of the other code)

[uncut viper]

just to be clear, i mean you want underscores, so if you removed them from your default.json, put them back

you want e.g. "config.QiEndearmentTitle.values.My_heart" not "config.QiEndearmentTitle.values.My heart"

even if the second one works for the config section

(ofc you also want to remove the Title from them since you're renaming the config)

[reef kiln]

This is why code takes me so long to do. Some places you want spaces others you want underlines, and in others neither is needed. Code should be like math! The rules are always the same.

[uncut viper]

"DynamicTokens": [
    {
        "Name": "QiPlayerTitle",
        "Value": "{{i18n: config.QiPlayer.values.{{QiPlayer}}}}"
    },
    {
        "Name": "QiNameTitle",
        "Value": "{{i18n: config.QiName.values.{{QiName}}}}"
    },
    {
        "Name": "QiEndearmentTitle",
        "Value": "{{i18n: config.QiEndearment.values.{{QiEndearment}}}}"
    }
]

i believe then that this should work

this means that your existing tokens in dialogue, events, etc dont need to be changed. translators (aka mistyspring) w ill still need to rename their config token names in their i18n json, but they wont need to remove any underscores, and they wont need to add new translations just for "My dear" or "My heart" or whatever

since they already translated them once for the config, we can re-use it instead of adding new lines to the i18n

because the AllowValues of our config have changed, though, players will lose their saved config values for these three config options

but, that would happen no matter what, because you are renaming them

(i said 2 total earlier but thats bc i forgor QiNameTitle)

[rigid musk]

IT WORKS

[uncut viper]

[rigid musk]

Thank you Button I really appreciate it

[uncut viper]

happy to help

[hot gale]

Congrats :D

[uncut viper]

i would probably let mistyspring know about the change since it might be hard to spot otherwise

once you post the update

[rigid musk]

Yeah I added comments around the parts that changed, but I will definitely do that for the them and the other person who translated the mod :3

[uncut viper]

oh i thought it was just misty, in that case yes better to let em both know

[tidal stone]

On tiled for the layers which layer would you guys reccomend for benches, I want to make them sittable but idk what layer that would be good to put them on (im thinking front but im not sure)

[reef kiln]

You like doing the hard stuff. First doors, now benches

[naive wyvern]

buildings for sittable/interactable things is the usual thing kandi

[tidal stone]

aah ok thank you!

and lol yea if im doing this i gotta go all out XD

[naive wyvern]

the maps page has more details if you want to take a peek for what else you can do

[tidal stone]

ooh ok

[rigid musk]

Misty posted theirs today, someone else made a Korean one that was posted nearly the day after I posted my mod

[rotund elm]

this is a crime, (forage with the "torch_item" context tag)

[rigid musk]

it looks kinda pretty though

[uncut viper]

ahh, they just didnt list it as a translation on nexus

[rigid musk]

Yeah it was posted on ... oh im blanking on the name

[reef kiln]

Does it let you replace it. Because that would be cool to collect and then use as a torch on the farm.

[rigid musk]

Also would anyone have any idea as to why someone would get locked in a room / not be able to leave with a locked door warp property of LockedDoorWarp 30 10 Club 600 2600

since that's literally the entire day they shouldn't get locked in, right?

[rotund elm]

Unfortunately not XD

[rigid musk]

I honestly can just remove that and make it a 'walk out' situation ...

[vernal crest]

Someone meaning a player?

[tidal stone]

in tiled how do i set a unique id name for my map?

[rigid musk]

yeah someone reported getting stuck in his room for whatever reason and it just showing 'it's locked'

[tidal stone]

or is that like a file name thing

[rigid musk]

they sent a video of it... and it was 2 in the afternoon in game so

[uncut viper]

the name of your tmx file has no bearing on the map id

[tidal stone]

ah ok

[uncut viper]

when you Load the tmx (or EditMap it) the Target is what the name would be

[vernal crest]

Why is there a lockeddoorwarp to get out of the room?

[uncut viper]

minus the Maps/ part

[rigid musk]

i wanted to click on the tile to leave and that's the only way I knew how to do it lol

There are most definitely other ways

[tidal stone]

im filling out one of the stop code formats for central station and i wanna make sure i put in the right id

[vernal crest]

You can do that with an action warp

[rigid musk]

Also on buildings layer?

[vernal crest]

The action warp? Yes

[tidal stone]

when i export a map it should be as a tmx file right

nvm i see it

XD

[tidal stone]

ok i need help i am clearly doing something wrong lmao XD lketn me get my log and content folder

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/ed4668f580b84da8a0d1546c5f9db944

https://smapi.io/log/2ebe4439dd494594a1ce3b6ceb1bed7a

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, with 5 C# mods and 1 content packs.

[vernal crest]

Have you got two "Front" layers in your map?

[tidal stone]

yes

I appear to have 4

[rancid musk]

Well I just spent like 20 minutes trying to figure out why this sprite was getting cut off like this... only to discover that SpaceCore's Skills page is drawing its own background on top of the one the GameMenu draws.

So that's how my evening is going.

[tidal stone]

im going to assume there should just be one and i need to merge them

[vernal crest]

You can't have multiple layers with the same name. If you need to use more than one Front layer so that one of them draws on top of another, the other should be called Front1 (if it draws on top of Front) or Front-1 (if it draws underneath Front).

[tidal stone]

OH

ok nice!

man this really gives a new perspective to all the hard work people do for mods

[vernal crest]

There's definitely a lot to learn, yeah.

[tidal stone]

can i change the path that it goes to take from tielsheets

i didnt put them in the same folder first and i dont wanna have to do this whoele map again lmao

[uncut viper]

you can edit the .tmx directly in notepad++ to change the tilesheet paths

!tilesheetclimbing

[ocean sail]

When creating or editing maps in Tiled, one common error is tilesheet climbing, marked by red text containing "invalid tilesheet path '../../..'. This is caused by SMAPI not being able to find the tilesheets needed by the map file. To prevent this error, make sure that you have a copy of all necessary tilesheets in the folder containing your WIP tmx file. Copies of vanilla tilesheets can later be deleted, but must be present while working on your map.

If you get this error with a completed map, an easy way to fix it is to open your tmx file in VS Code or a similar text editor, find all of the places with <image source=, and remove the filepaths to so that only the tilesheet names remain. For example, if the code says <image source="Content (unpacked)/Maps/townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>, change it to just <image source="townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>.

To use this command, type !tilesheetclimbing.

[lucid iron]

after doing AddPage in GMCM

can i switch back to main

[rancid musk]

While this is hilarious, I should probably not just force the menu to be wider if there are more tabs.

[lucid iron]

weedses

[tiny zealot]

what is Honk

[rancid musk]

[tiny zealot]

i don't know what i expected.jpg

[rancid musk]

Testing my API with ```cs
API.OnPageCreated(API_OnPageInstantiated);

void API_OnPageInstantiated(IPageCreatedEvent e) {
if (e.Page is OptionsPage page)
page.options.Add(new OptionsButton("Honk", () => Game1.playSound("Duck")));
}```

[uncut viper]

try passing "" as the pageId

[tidal stone]

how does one find the unique id for their map

[uncut viper]

you dont. you make it up

[lucid iron]

ty i was about to go look for gmcm sauce

[tidal stone]

oh

well then new problem idk how to assign an id to my map

[uncut viper]

how are you loading your map?

[rancid musk]

(Honestly I think I might leave the honk button in just to confuse people, lol)

[tidal stone]

content patcher

[vernal crest]

You already did, it's KandiKraze.TheNeigborhood_NeighborhoodMap

[tiny zealot]

honestly not a bad idea. i'm here for it

[uncut viper]

i meant how are you using it so far to load it, like your Load patch

(it seems Aba has more context than i do though, so defer to them)

[tidal stone]

im using a map location loader for a warp and it says the location couldnt be loaded

[vernal crest]

Look further back in your log then, because there will be an error showing why the location wasn't created.

[tidal stone]

oooh ok

i must have missed it then

[rancid musk]

Speaking of menus, while you're here button, do you want me to send a PR to Special Power Utilities for Better Game Menu? It should be a very simple thing.

[uncut viper]

if you find the time for it then feel free, i planned on doing it Eventually™ i just dont have time to work on mod stuff atm

i dunno when you planned on releasing it so the Eventually might just end up being before then anyway if it was gonna be a while

[tidal stone]

the only error it gives it "warp to KandiKraze.TheNeighborhood_NeighborhoodMap failed: location wasn't found or couldn't be loaded."

[rancid musk]

I was planning on end of the month ish

[vernal crest]

Can you share your log?

[tidal stone]

sure thing

[uncut viper]

i could probably find time between now and then, so like, feel free to make the PR low priority compared to other things

[rancid musk]

Probably only take me like 5 minutes, but yeah I'll make it low priority.

[tidal stone]

https://smapi.io/log/83bc55c1877e4487838a0084f21b711d

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, with 5 C# mods and 1 content packs.

[rancid musk]

UI Info Suite and some others will be more involved I expect

[uncut viper]

if i forget and havent done it by the time you're coming up on like, wanting to release soon, feel free to also just ping me if you want and i can put in a self rush order to do it

[vernal crest]

You tried to warp to your map but you can't. You have to warp to a location. And your location is named KandiKraze.TheNeigborhood_TheNeighborhood not KandiKraze.TheNeigborhood_NeighborhoodMap. So try debug warp KandiKraze.TheNeigborhood_TheNeighborhood instead.

[uncut viper]

actually working on mods is just also a low priority for me rn i am not allowing myself to open Rider or else i know im gonna get sucked into doing mod stuff instead of my actual responsibilities

[tidal stone]

Oooohhhhh

[vernal crest]

Mood. I am meant to be preparing for a cyclone, no modding allowed!

[uncut viper]

make sure to download the CP docs so you can mod in case the internet goes out /j

[dusk mulch]

WHAT IS ITTT

please

i must know

or else i will cry

does it just make a honk sound

[rigid oriole]

man I play ONE in-game day and I've already got more little mod project ideas meanwhile my actual released mods have bugs I should be squashing instead

[dusk mulch]

real

[dusk mulch]

🪿

[rancid musk]

[lucid iron]

wow yes

[rancid musk]

Getting back from memes, this might not be too bad a way to display lots of tabs.

[lucid iron]

im installing just for this

[rancid musk]

(The real trick is when pressing the honk button secretly spawns a goose somewhere in the world to do... goose things.)

[lucid iron]

oh no

[rigid oriole]

have we considered untitled goose but in stardew

like it just runs around a random map each day being a menace

[dusk mulch]

what is the mod name

[urban patrol]

i 100% want to play stargoose valley

[dusk mulch]

what if you spam the button, will the map be filled with geese

[rancid musk]

I do not have a secret goose mod, just a secret game menu replacement mod. Better Game Menu, coming end of the month.

[urban patrol]

i do like that look

[dusk mulch]

if i do not see it on nexus at 12:00:00 on the 1st of April i will wage war

[tidal stone]

when walking behind a building i can't really get behind it because of an invisible wall, if i make it passable through coding the building will that let me walk behind it or is that a different thing altogther

[dusk mulch]

You would just put whatever you need to walk behind on the "Front" layer

or the "AlwaysFront"

[brittle pasture]

With MEEP + Extra Animal Config this is probably already possible

[rigid oriole]

tell me about this MEEP

[dusk mulch]

Meep Meep

[brittle pasture]

it's a framework that among other things allow spawning farm animals outside of farms

[sour sleet]

But what if the geese could steal food from your animals or eat the crops?

[dusk mulch]

no. please dont make this a feature

[brittle pasture]

I'm not too sadistic to implement that
the idea of a carnivorous farm animals that require eating other farm animals did cross my mind

[dusk mulch]

the geese is supposed to be funny

not annoying

[lucid iron]

i dont think MEEP let u give advanced goose menance tho

[sour sleet]

Bahaha, make it a reality someone

[lucid iron]

not yet at least

[brittle pasture]

with EAC we can at least make it relentlessly attack the farmer

[urban patrol]

-1 health, -1 health, -1 health

[dusk mulch]

ok i wouldnt mind that, i play with inf energy and inf health anyway

[sour sleet]

This genuinely sounds like a good mod idea though /g

[uncut viper]

is /g genuine or is /g like. /garfield

[urban patrol]

/g for goose

[sour sleet]

Garfield of course

[dusk mulch]

Lasagna

[rancid musk]

I mean the goose is supposed to be annoying too but not like... annoyingly annoying

If that makes sense

[brittle pasture]

Then do I have a mod for you

[dusk mulch]

hm?

you have caught my attention

which is hard to do

show me your secrets

[brittle pasture]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/28906

void chickens will now try to kill you
if you have SVE or VMV, their goose will try to kill you too

[dusk mulch]

ooooo

im installing that, i will let you know how i go

[rancid musk]

Anyways, seems like 21 is the limit of how many tabs I can comfortably fit on top of the menu without having to resize the built-in menus. I suppose this is... a good number to target for a first release. I doubt people are going to shoot up to 22 tabs over night.

[uncut viper]

is there controller support?

[tidal stone]

Woohoo it works, now to find the right tile for use with central station

[rancid musk]

Of course. Controller support. And split screen support.

And it technically fits in 1280x720

Though it gets a bit... tight, lol

(I just want to be lazy and not implement tab scrolling for the first version. Scrolling is annoying.)

[brittle pasture]

and here I thought scrolling is the favorite feature to implement for GUI modders

[rancid musk]

I already implemented perfect scrolling once. I earned the right to be lazy. 😛

[tidal stone]

i have some stuff set as buildings and yet I still walk over them

like benches is this possibly due to later order?

[vernal crest]

They have to be on the Buildings layer, not any of the numbered ones. So not Buildings1 or Buildings-1.

[tidal stone]

Oh

ok for Back is that for the cliffs and stuff or is that a different layer