making-mods-general

[tidal stone]

do i save my event string as event json?

or does it matter

[vernal crest]

Are you writing it as an include file?

Because the file name doesn't matter as long as you refer to it correctly in your Include code block

[tidal stone]

i was thinking of writing it like the action things in my content json

Action: include
target
fromfile

Im not sure if thats correct though

[vernal crest]

There's no Target in an include but yes you can do that.

[tidal stone]

ok i popped it in and i did something wrong back to the drawing board it says it cant parse the json file

[flat sluice]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[tidal stone]

I see where its telling me my code is wrong but im not 100 on how to fix it

[vernal crest]

That means you have a formatting error. If you share your json with the first link from the Governor's message we can help.

What text editor are you using, by the way?

[tidal stone]

vs code

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/80616ebadd2247c9ad2ce55f99adbc98

[vernal crest]

Where is the rest of the file?

[tidal stone]

i only did what the tutorial showed and that line of text was all it showed

oh wait

it didnt copy everything

it cuts it off unless you go into edit on the previewer weird

[vernal crest]

You need something like this in your file.

{
    "Changes": [
        {
            "LogName": "Hiria's National Park events",
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/Events/{{ModID}}_NationalPark",
            "Entries": {
                          "EventNameAndPreconditions": "EventScript"
                        }
                }
      ]
}

[tidal stone]

Oh does that go into events.json or content.json?

[vernal crest]

That goes into events.json

The bit in content.json looks like this

        {
            "LogName": "Include Events",
            "Action": "Include",
            "FromFile": "data/hiria_events.json"
        },

[tidal stone]

ok where do i put the line of code for the events? just between the brackets

[vernal crest]

Yes, like in my example.

[tidal stone]

OH

is that what event spcript means ok ok sorry early morning slow brain

ok now i only have one error and its that i have a : but if i dont have the : then the rest of the sentence goes red

WAIT

i fixed it it hink sorry

why is it when you fix one error 3 more show up

[flat sluice]

Something's not correct, then... Either the rest of your code or the fix you made.

[tidal stone]

i changed a : to , and it fixed the script but now my brackets dont work right and it wants me to change one into a :

[vernal crest]

Changing any colon to something different was probably the wrong move, but you can share your json again if you want help with it

[tidal stone]

ok lemme change it back and resend

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/d473c1c415d14f86a9eef54db4e6848a

[vernal crest]

I see why

You have put your event name and preconditions inside the spot for the event script instead of replacing the words EventNameAndPreconditions with your own event's name and preconditions.

[tidal stone]

Oooh

[vernal crest]

This part is your event's name and preconditions "KandiKraze.Kraze_Spr1ng/w sunny/z spring/t 630 1200/f KandiKraze.KrazeNPC 500"

The bit after the colon is your event script.

[tidal stone]

My bad

[vernal crest]

Sorry for confusing you with that.

[tidal stone]

oh no your fine XD im just silly

[flat sluice]

That line with your event should then look like this:
"KandiKraze.Kraze_Spr1ng/w sunny/z spring/t 630 1200/f KandiKraze.KrazeNPC 500" : "50s/-1000 -1000/KandiKraze.KrazeNPC 20 62 3 farmer 14 55 1/skippable/viewport 21 54 true/move farmer 14 62 1/textAboveHead KandiKraze.KrazeNPC \"Oh!$3 Hello @, How are you today?$1\"/pause 500/move KandiKraze.KrazeNPC 14 630 /speak KandiKraze.KrazeNPC \"I was just looking at the flowers, their so pretty this time of year, and the vegetables I buy at pierre's are just as good looking. Spring really is the best if you want fresh veggies.\"/move KandiKraze.KrazeNPC 12 64 2/speak Penny \"I like living in the valley because its peaceful here and the people are warm, in the city no on knew my name but here? here I get greeted everyday just by going to the store! It's great.\"/move KandiKraze.KrazeNPC 12 64 0 \"Living alone far from my parents is lonely but, I have some good friends like you so it's ok. *smiles*\"/pause 800/viewport -1000 -1000/end"

[vernal crest]

Your event script itself is also going to break in at least one place, but we will get it in the right place before we address that.

[flat sluice]

And also fix the target, if {{ModID}}_Spr1ng is not your custom map.

[tidal stone]

i thought that was the id code not a target should i set it to the map ill be standing in for my event then

[flat sluice]

Yes. If your event would be f.e. in forest, then your target would be "Target": "Data/Events/Forest".

[tidal stone]

should i change it at the beginning of the script 2

[vernal crest]

What do you mean?

[tidal stone]

"KandiKraze.Kraze_Spr1ng/w sunny

[vernal crest]

That's the name/ID of your event. You can call that whatever you want as long as it's unique (so keeping your mod id as a prefix is a good idea).

[tidal stone]

ooh ok

[vernal crest]

Although I don't know if using a 1 in place of an i makes much sense to me.

[tidal stone]

event 1 spring

that way i dont have to use as many words

[vernal crest]

What's the problem with using words?

[tidal stone]

i just like shortening things

[vernal crest]

Ok as long as it doesn't get confusing for you or anybody trying to understand your event names. Users using mods like Event Lookup will get to see them.

I mean, you don't have to care about what your users will think. I just am one of those users who reads mod authors' event names while I play to figure out what events I'm meant to be seeing so I have opinions lol

[tidal stone]

fair

its mostly just a standin because i didnt know what else to call it atm

[vernal crest]

Understandable! And it is your call in the end anyway.

Now, you've got your portrait commands in the middle of your dialogue lines again so that's going to break the dialogue again.

[tidal stone]

oh thats right i need to do #b# right

[vernal crest]

Yeah

[uncut viper]

though one of those is a textabovehead anyway

[calm nebula]

Good morning modders! How goes the modding

[uncut viper]

moddingly

[tidal stone]

i think i got all the spots, tried to run it and the event still doesnt start though sadge XD

good morning

i am trying to fgiure out events 😄

[vernal crest]

So it is. Yeah, portrait commands aren't going to work in textAboveHead because there's no portrait to change.

[vernal crest]

What's the error?

[uncut viper]

(i dont think the @ will work in it either but id need someone more event prone to confirm or deny that assumption for me)

[calm nebula]

@ won't work either

[tidal stone]

oooh should i use {{Player Name}} instead?

[uncut viper]

i believe {{PlayerName}} (no space) is your only option there

[vernal crest]

Yeah Dennis pointed out before that textAboveHead needs PlayerName

[tidal stone]

aa ok

[calm nebula]

huh, there isn't a tokenparser for it

I'm surprsied

{{PlayerName}} it is, but you'll need to handle that special for i18n

[uncut viper]

i was also about to say the same thing, even tho i know tokens wont be parsed either

[calm nebula]

I thought events parsed tokens

at the top level

[uncut viper]

maybe one wasnt made just bc if you're in a place tokens work and you need the player name, @ is there

[vernal crest]

Dennis gave an example of how to do it with i18n before as well

[tidal stone]

im removing the name until i know what an i18n is

[calm nebula]

events parse tokens

which is nice

[uncut viper]

oh, huh

good to know

[vernal crest]

It stands for Internationalisation and it's how we make it easy for people to translate our mods into different languages.

[tidal stone]

aaah i see

[uncut viper]

hm, so could i theoretically store an entire script into one asset and just place a single [LocalizedText ModId/MyStrings:script] token? since it splits it after the parsing

[calm nebula]

sure!

[uncut viper]

fun

[calm nebula]

but it's more useful for moving out translateable text

[uncut viper]

easy gender-based command sequences, actually

[tidal stone]

it still didnt work mind if i send my log?

[vernal crest]

Yup, go for it

[tidal stone]

https://smapi.io/log/00c38dcd40e4405d86923369de06f7fc

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, with 4 C# mods and 1 content packs.

[vernal crest]

There is nothing in that log, including any debug command to run your event.

Well, nothing except you loading a save and going to town.

[tidal stone]

i thought it would auto pop up if i set the conditions correctly 😦

[hallow prism]

so yes, but we do usually test events with the command to see if they are properly added

this helps narrowing down WHERE the issue is

[tidal stone]

Oooh ok

how do i put in a debug command

[hallow prism]

try typing debug ebi youreventid in the smapi console when you have loaded a save

[vernal crest]

It would, but you've set it to run if it's NOT spring and your save file is in spring.

[tidal stone]

I did D:

i thought i specified it HAD to be spring weird

[vernal crest]

So you'd do debug ebi KandiKraze.Kraze_Spr1ng for this one (unless you changed its name).

No, you're using the z precondition which means NOT season.

[tidal stone]

Ah ty

[vernal crest]

It might be easier for you to be sure you're using the right ones if you switch to the new way of writing preconditions out by name instead of letter.

(There are no up-to-date tutorials for events right now, so unfortunately following a tutorial isn't a foolproof way to make an event at the moment.)

[tidal stone]

i tried putting in debug in the command adnd it said its an unknown command

[calm nebula]

put console commands back

[tidal stone]

got the event to trigger

i am walking off the screen XD

[tidal stone]

What can cause your character to just keep walking forever in an event even if the correct coordinates are put in do i have to manually put in a stop command?

wait i think i have something out of order in my string and that might be it hm

nvm its correct XD ( i think)

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/0eeaed09798f43b4831092626f4880a3
am i missing anything? it plays but i just walk right out of view for seemingly forever even though i put in a coordinate

[vernal crest]

It's because you're trying to make the character move horizontally and vertically at the same time, which the game can't do. You need to write move farmer 14 0 1/move farmer 0 62 1 instead of move farmer 14 62 1.

[tidal stone]

ooh ok let me fix it then, ty ty

[tidal stone]

man im gonna make so many npcs

"so many" (i have ideas for 2 XD)

[shadow pagoda]

What's wrong with this json? I don't see any invalid characters in UniqueID

The mod's manifest.json file is invalid: manifest specifies an invalid ID (IDs must only contain letters, numbers, underscores, periods, or hyphens).```
```json
{
  "Name": "Instant Community Center Cheat",
  "Author": "Hawker",
  "Version": "1.0.0",
  "Description": "Adds the desired items needed to complete the Community Center to the player's inventory",
  "UniqueID": "Hawker.Instant Community Center Cheat",
  "EntryDll": "Instant Community Center Cheat.dll",
  "MinimumApiVersion": "4.0.0",
  "UpdateKeys": []
}

[uncut viper]

spaces are not a letter, a number, an underscore, a period, or a hyphen

[shadow pagoda]

ah

[tidal stone]

I got 1 event to work completely properly!!

[hallow prism]

congrats

it'll get easier from there

[tidal stone]

😄 i really appreciate all the help from everyone :3

[tribal ore]

I was really hoping that this would patch all the "Indoor_Day" dialogue at once, but it doesn't seem to:
"Indoor_Day_{{Range:0,4}}": "{{ i18n:dialogue.{{Random:{{Range:0,2}} }} }}",

Do I really need separate entries for Indoor_Day_0 , Indoor_Day_1, etc?

[lucid iron]

Range token here resolves to 0,1,2,3,4 i think

The literal string

The content modders yearn for the foreach

Atm you do have have to write all of em yeah

[tribal ore]

Gosh darn it. Thank you

Another question then: will "season_day" dialogue always be chosen over other marriage dialogue options? (Indoor_Day, Outdoor, etc)

[tidal stone]

ok i need help again XD how do i write this correctly, at first i had action and target in there but it kept saying that was wrong so i removed them, i plan on putting 3 more events but i wanna make sure i put the m in the brackets right
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/cc24a4da95974bee8384a7b0f4fd7d27

[brittle pasture]

your second event is outside the Entries block

[pine brook]

Anyone got any good starting places to take a look at and start learning some C code so I can start to dip my toes a little deeper with my in-work mod? https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/32049

[tidal stone]

i dont understand how to put it in the entries block correctly because if i just put in the line of code it gets mad

[brittle pasture]

did you add a comma at the end of the first event

entries must be separated by commas

[tidal stone]

:0 it worked

thank you 😭

let me see if it runs now

[brittle pasture]

(minor correction: it's C#)
depends on how familiar are you with programming already, but the yellow book is a good start if you're brand new: https://www.robmiles.com/c-yellow-book
afterwards you want to follow the wiki guide for making a C# mod

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[forest bronze]

I'm making custom map and i don't know how to make custom tilesheet update depending of season i have main.tmx file and 4 custom tilesheets

[brittle pasture]

if your tilesheet name starts with spring_ the game should automatically swap them out to summer_/etc.

so when you're editing your map, just add the spring_ one

[forest bronze]

i have tilesheet_spring so just rename it

[brittle pasture]

yes

[tidal stone]

if im wanting to do an event at the beach but my target is set to town, do i create a new target and label it beach?

or can i only target one thing

[brittle pasture]

only one thing, yes. you make another block with a different Target

[tidal stone]

Aah ok thank you

[forest bronze]

not working ;<

[brittle pasture]

did you load all the other tilesheets?

[forest bronze]

How

[brittle pasture]

in your content.json have a Load block for all your tilesheets that load them into Maps/spring_tilesheetnamehere, Maps/summer_tilesheetnamehere, etc.

[outer cedar]

I think I'm finally ready to upload my NPC mod today!

It's a WIP but it's finally at a point where I'm comfortable showing other people

[forest bronze]

still dont change depending of season

[drowsy pewter]

Dont wanna kill your enthusiasm, but are you fine with this being the one time your NPC is in the spotlight? because normally new mods ONLY get seen when they first get uploaded

That's why releasing a WIP mod with like, 50% of the final content might make people skip over it

[forest bronze]

im stupid plz help

[lucid iron]

hm does case matter

[outer cedar]

Hmmm i see your point, my issue is I'm finding it hard to keep working on it without any feedback from people but there are things id like to add. I've only added 14 of the 18 heart events I wanted to, not all the marriage dialogue is done yet, can't take them to the resort but other than those things it's pretty much done

The only issue is it's probably going to be buggy but I kind of hope if people play it they can tell me about any bugs

[drowsy pewter]

I feel like in that case it sounds complete enough for people to be interested in playing with then

[outer cedar]

There's nothing game breaking I made sure of that!

[drowsy pewter]

There are also methods you can do to get beta testers, such as asking in modded farmers or posting a beta in a smaller community like the ES discord

[tidal stone]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/31f14fadebfc48caa8d4f6e4631cd487
should I remove the target and entries? but how do I then make it know what map im trying to be in?

[outer cedar]

That's the east side discord right? That sounds like a good idea yeah

[hard fern]

*east scarp

[blissful panther]

You could consider releasing a beta on ModDrop or something other than Nexus in the meantime.

[hard fern]

West carp expansion when-

[outer cedar]

Oh yeah that was it

[outer cedar]

Oh nice I think I'll just do that

I wanted to do nexus because I thought it'd be the best way to get some eyes on it for people to beta but I would regret it later if it's too unfinished for people to give a chance

[rancid musk]

Hmm. That is an interesting thought. Maybe I should put the preview release of Better Game Menu on ModDrop and not just GitHub.

[drowsy pewter]

I dont know how fast moddrop will bring in feedback

You might also have to advertise it here

[brittle pasture]

only one "Action", one "Target", one "Entries", etc. per { } block in the Changes array

also make sure that every { has its matching }

(hmm your code actually has all matching brackets, I just added that advice because of the weird formatting causing them to not be visible haha)

[outer cedar]

Is it okay to post it in here on mod showcase if it's on moddrop?

[brittle pasture]

sure! there's no limitations on where the link has to be

[lucid iron]

you need someone with role to repost for you

tell us what blurb you want

[brittle pasture]

well unless it's a paywall (it's against the rules)
(and what chu said)

[outer cedar]

Okay gotcha

I didn't even know people paywalled stardew mods that's crazy

[brittle pasture]

(it's against nexus TOS so it doesn't happen often)

[outer cedar]

Question, is it okay if the mod has profanities in it? Nothing offensive just mild swearing

[lucid iron]

you can put content warning as you prefer on thy mod

server rule only prohibit nsfw mods

[outer cedar]

Ah okay that's good to know it's definetly not nsfw I'll put a content warning 👍

[tidal stone]

i think i like making npcs now that ive done it once just gotta get this first one the way i like it >:3c

Hm, ive run into an odd problem where my npcs sprite shows up like this

oh i think i named something wrong

[cyan venture]

Hi i dont find any forum for question about mod so im here to ask

Did anyone know mod that increase farmhouse upgrade cost?

[calm nebula]

#modded-stardew

[cyan venture]

Oh in that forum

Ok tks

[thin lake]

Is smapi still being updated for PC or no?

[rough lintel]

anyone familiar with DayTiles know if we have our layers like "Back +2" if we put the name as Back +2 x y id?

rather than just Back?

[lucid iron]

yes its the main platform

[thin lake]

K k, thank tou

[brittle pasture]

if you're asking because you have problems with your installation check out #1272025932932055121

[rancid musk]

Hey, fellow mod devs! As some of you will know, I've been working on a mod called Better Game Menu for a little while now. This mod completely replaces the built-in GameMenu implementation with one that's a bit more efficient (namely, it doesn't load every page every time you open the menu) and that has a nice API for other mods to hook into it.

If you develop a mod that interacts with GameMenu, either to add a new page or to do things to existing pages, we'll need to work on compatibility so please check things out and write a patch, or ask me to write a patch to PR to you. And, of course, please let me know if there's anything missing from my API that you'd like.

Either way, please check it out. For now, you can find the preview release on my GitHub: https://github.com/KhloeLeclair/StardewMods/releases/tag/BetterGameMenu-Preview1

Users, I plan on releasing this properly in 2-4 weeks once other modders have had a chance to update things, and bugs are located. Please look forward to it.

[blissful panther]

(I anticipate more custom menu tabs once this is more known. We shall see if this holds true. )

[tiny zealot]

hey khloe my first question off the bat is what happens if two mods pick the same order number in between two default tabs?
for example if two mods want to come between Skills and Social and they both pick 30

[blissful panther]

My vote is which page the tab activates is switched between all of the options every frame. /j

[rancid musk]

Should be deterministic based on comparing the id strings

[lucid iron]

what is the solution for GMCM

ask me to write a patch to PR to you
i dont have a mod that need this but you are too good to us khloe

[tribal ore]

Gentle bump of this. The wiki explains the order of preference for general dialogue well, but Marriage Dialogue is a little opaque

[rancid musk]

I'm going to write a patch for casey but it'll be super simple. Just subscribing to the page created event

[tribal ore]

Also, for anyone with wiki editing priviledges, this is wrong:
funReturn_<spouse> Dialogue shown after 1pm when they enter the farmhouse but before reaching their target position, but only on Monday (any NPC) or Friday (if not Maru/Penny/Harvey).

The dialogue actually shows on any day that the spouse's schedule takes them off of the farm

I've modified Seb's schedule to take him off the farm when married on Tue/Sun, and always get funReturn_ dialogue when he comes back

[brittle pasture]

hmm do I move the fresh farm produce competition to its own tab

[calm nebula]

fixed, thanks!

[gentle rose]

I’ll check the game code in a bit and fix, ty

[brittle pasture]

the quest log is already a pretty decent place

[tribal ore]

Thank you!

[gentle rose]

nvm, atra got there first

atra

[lucid iron]

newobj instance void StardewValley.Characters.Child::.ctor(string, bool, bool, class StardewValley.Farmer)

[tribal ore]

Still need an answer on Marriage Dialogue priority though

[lucid iron]

how do i match for this

[calm nebula]

OpCode is NewObj

[lucid iron]

atm i have

new(OpCodes.Newobj, AccessTools.Constructor(typeof(Child), [typeof(string), typeof(bool), typeof(bool), typeof(Farmer)]))

but game didnt like that

[calm nebula]

that should work, huh

you sure the next thing isn't the problem

also usually I'm a bit finicky about editing around that

[lucid iron]

the nest thing is new(OpCodes.Stfld)

[rough lintel]

any specific reason why an NPC will walk right eternally into the void when their schedule pops rather than.. path out of their house?

[lucid iron]

oh im really just looking for the stfld

[calm nebula]

the next thing = the edit you're trying to make

[lucid iron]

so i can have the b a b y

[calm nebula]

oh, okay

hmm

that should work fine.

[rough lintel]

not sure what's doing it when everything looks right 😭

[gentle rose]

maybe a missed/accidental warp making them think they’re on the wrong map?

[lucid iron]

mabe my first match went too far

[calm nebula]

this is RenderDisplayRewrite's

    private static IEnumerable<CodeInstruction> Transpiler(IEnumerable<CodeInstruction> codes)
    {
        var constructor = typeof(StaticTile).GetConstructor(BindingFlags.Instance | BindingFlags.Public, [typeof(Layer), typeof(TileSheet), typeof(BlendMode), typeof(int)])
                            ?? throw new InvalidOperationException("could not find static tile constructor");

        var replacement = typeof(RotTile).GetConstructor(BindingFlags.Instance | BindingFlags.Public, [typeof(Layer), typeof(TileSheet), typeof(BlendMode), typeof(int)])
                            ?? throw new InvalidOperationException("could not find rot tile constructor");

        int count = 0;
        foreach (var code in codes)
        {
            if (code.opcode == OpCodes.Newobj && constructor == (code.operand as ConstructorInfo))
            {
                code.operand = replacement;
                ++count;
            }
            yield return code;
        }

        ModEntry.ModMonitor.Log($"{count} instances found.");
    }

[rough lintel]

uhhh do you have an example as to what you mean

[tiny zealot]

did something edit their schedule during the day

[gentle rose]

if npcs walk on an unexpected warp during their schedule, they end up continuing to walk as if they’re still on the map they were originally on. This has been an issue with mods like overgrown valley

[lucid iron]

im dum its a whole other transpiler that broke

ty atra for affirmation

why does everything about spouse in this game Succ

second only to FarmerRenderer i swear

[rough lintel]

she spawns in on her spawn tile, doesnt start her schedule, but she does move at 7am for the next thing

there are no unexpected warps other than the one out of her house

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/14b2e586696c49efa3fd07c410d934ca

heres the schedule json

she starts pathing to the sunberry warp room which should make her leave her house, go left in sunberry village and then go to said warp room, but instead she just void walks

[tiny zealot]

i have to go, but which day exactly is this happening on

[rough lintel]

wait hahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahaha (i fixed it)

as it turns out, half my coordinates were in fucking WALLS

i'm quitting

[shadow pagoda]

I'm trying to dynamically get all the bundles in the CC, along with what the player has and hasn't donated. I found a bundles variable which is of type NetBundles. I assume this is what I want, though I'm not entirely sure as the field/properties/methods don't intuitively seem like they are. Then again, the class itself seems to be a big dictionary that I can't seem to figure out exactly how it works. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place. Could anyone tell me a section of the code that I can look at, or any documentation that better explains how the NetBundles class works. Or is this even the correct class I should be looking at

[hot gale]

Is anyone familiar with Advanced Melee Framework

Trying to understand why only one of the three weapons I'm modifying are actually doing anything

[shadow pagoda]

It seems like what I really want is bundlesIngredientsInfo, but that is unfortunately private

[cyan venture]

Does anyone know building increase cost is in which Mod Making Category

[gentle rose]

what do you mean?

[cyan venture]

I mean i want to request a mod that can increase farmhouse upgrade cost (Robin house upgrade) but i didnt know which category it should be

[gentle rose]

what do you mean which category?

[cyan venture]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions#Buildings_&_Furniture

In this website

[gentle rose]

I see. What exactly do you want the mod to do?

(which method it’s part of will change based on that)

[cyan venture]

I want to adjustable cost of upgrade Farmhouse but i dont find any mod can do that

So i want to request a commission for this

[gentle rose]

Hmm, I’m not sure if that’s done via content patcher or c#.

I’m guessing C#, so contact someone in the C# Code category.

[cyan venture]

Ok i’ll try

Thank you

[gentle rose]

(Be prepared to spend at least $20, of course)

[cyan venture]

It a little weird that we have mod can adjust building like Coop and Barn upgrade cost but dont have Farmhouse…

[cyan venture]

Affordable

[brittle pasture]

because farmhouse costs is hardcoded in C#

building costs are easily editable with just a content pack

[gentle rose]

Probably because it likely requires C# code, because I’d imagine that’s hardcoded. But it’s pretty simple, so odds are just nobody wanted it yet. If you’re willing to pay for someone to make it, go for it!

[cyan venture]

Okay thank guys

[gentle rose]

hey uber remind me in 1 hour to look into adding myself to the commissions page

[patent lance]

now there is a quality reminder. if I converted all of that brain power of yours into a CPU, I'd still rather rely on the computational power of a tamagotchi. with a dead battery. (#6555778) (1h | <t:1740951165>)

[lucid iron]

can i patch a method that is overwritten in child to call it's parent

[silver sand]

the first thing I see here is marunot absolutely SERVING

[lucid iron]

i attempted reflection but it didnt seem to do stuff

[calm nebula]

Sure but you have to use a transpiler

You have to emit the call to the method

[lucid iron]

i was trying to do this from a different method

[calm nebula]

Reverse trnapsuwlr too

[lucid iron]

trnapsuwlr

well i guess thats ok

[brittle pasture]

need IL

see example: https://github.com/zombifier/My_Stardew_Mods/blob/master/FurnitureMachine/ModEntry.cs

I patched a bunch of methods in Furniture to call Object versions

[lucid iron]

could i do this IL gen in a postfix

[brittle pasture]

no transpilers needed

[lucid iron]

your linter is very aggresive about the line length

[calm nebula]

You know, sometimes I forget you can IL outside a transpiler haha

But yeah

That's the trick

You have to emit the il

And it has to use Opcodes.Call

Not opcodes.Callvirt

[proud wyvern]

sometimes i wish i could write inline IL for stupid stuff like that, but idk how that would work in a way that wasn't miserable to use

i think my most common DynamicMethod use is "i have a Type, but i want to call a generic method with that Type"

[rancid musk]

same

[lucid iron]

hm well im pretty sure i called the base method but it is still no work

the goal is make babies use appearance system

[calm nebula]

MakeGenericMethod my beloathed

[teal bridge]

If only .NET had structural interfaces.

[teal bridge]

Probably could automate that specific use case with a source generator, given at least some minor constraints.

[urban patrol]

is it possible for a heart event to permanently give the farmer a buff? the wiki mentions setting duration to -2 for it to last all day, but i’m wondering if there’s a way to increase defense by 1 for example

[teal bridge]

Someone wrote a framework thing to do infinite buffs.

[brittle pasture]

you can set a mail flag, and a trigger action to give that buff on every day start if that mail flag is set

[teal bridge]

(I don't remember what it was called)

[urban patrol]

so the event would set the condition of like “player has increased defense” and then i would use a different function to check for that condition every day? (sorry, i’m very new to this)

[rancid musk]

Yeah, running a trigger action every morning seems like a good way to go about it.

[brittle pasture]

see here for more info: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Trigger_actions

[old edge]

I have a predicament

[lucid iron]

i give up and i will simply make fake npc just to get sprites from

[old edge]

it has become apparent that I find it exceedingly difficult to draw pixel art with the mouse. I had a program that worked with my ipad but not working anymore. Does anyone know of any pixel programs for ipad........

[sour sleet]

The update for Laelia Glade is finally complete! Enjoy exploring a brand new secret area with goodies to forage and mysteries to uncover https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/25590?tab=description

[patent lance]

@gentle rose: look into adding yourself to the commissions page (1h ago)

[rancid musk]

✅ casey's repo handled

Now, what to do next... UI Info Suite 2 maybe, since that adds a custom tab?

[brittle pasture]

though fyi it's being rewritten to move everything to GMCM instead

[rancid musk]

Sounds like a good reason to put that at the bottom of my list.

Alright, picked a mod out of my hat. NPC Map Locations then

[dusk mulch]

Alex's face with pierres hair with kents body

[ornate trellis]

ponders

[tribal ore]

Tell me, would it be more tragic for unhappy spouses to give the player nice (but bland) gifts, or for them to give the player objectively bad gifts?

[tribal ore]

Pixaki

Is it possibly a LockedDoorWarp you need to change?

Buildings layer

[cosmic thorn]

no like its just a stand. Like the icescream one

[tribal ore]

Hmmmm. Idk then, sorry :/

Did you maybe make a change and forget to reload your patch?

[dusk mulch]

Pieres hair on alex's face on maru's hospital gown body

[outer cedar]

I've posted my NPC mod on moddrop now, was it that I needed to post a blurb in here and then a mod can add it to the mod showcase channel?

[cosmic thorn]

no i checked

[tribal ore]

WHYYYYYY??????

[dusk mulch]

i am trying to get a certian look

[tribal ore]

Cursed AF?

[dusk mulch]

a single dad that wears those white shirts all the time

[tribal ore]

This is horrifying

[outer cedar]

He looks quietly dignified

[tribal ore]

I think this is right. I haven't done it yet, but that's what I've seen others do

[dusk mulch]

Alex's face with pierres hair in a straight jacket

[outer cedar]

I'm releasing it as a beta to hopefully get some feedback or bug reports before I upload it to nexus. I added the Onceler/Greedler as an NPC and added a lot of dialogue and events to see (14 heart events so far!) https://www.moddrop.com/stardew-valley/mods/1669795-oncelergreedler-npc-mod-16-beta

[sour sleet]

This should probably be moved to #making-mods-art

[dusk mulch]

it is just a funny thing, im not looking for feedback or anything, i will stop

[outer cedar]

If a mod could posty blurb for me I would appreciate it thank you

[hallow prism]

well hmm, maybe for meme stuff or something then?

[hallow prism]

(however occasional art here is ok, it is related to making mods)

[sour sleet]

Oh for sure, I’ve just seen a lot of a similar thing here

[hard fern]

😔 do i really want to make a pif version for my other greenhouse mod...

come to think of it, how to you add an optional file to your manifest?

[ornate locust]

It's a dependency but required is false

like the second one here

[hard fern]

i meant like, as an optional file on my mod page

i want to add it to the manifest so it has the same update key

[ornate locust]

Oh that kind of optional

that I'm not sure

[hard fern]

hm well i'll figure it out i guess

in the meantime i suppose i can work on my super totally cool configurable slime hutch mod

[tribal ore]

Hey, is there a way to reload i18n without restarting the game?

patch reload doesn't cut it

[dusk mulch]

reload_i18n

[tribal ore]

thank you!

[cosmic thorn]

Can i do smth like: "Condition": "DAY Wednesday, TIME 1100-1500" for the shop stand?

[hallow prism]

for adding it to the map, or for having shop not closed? second is doable

[cosmic thorn]

Like i have a stand like ice cream one, and i need to make it open only in WED 11 am to 15 pm

[dreamy cedar]

I'm having a problem in Junimatic with Kissa's Wildflower Acres Farm. I'm creating a new instance of NPC for the Junimo and setting it up with a new PathFindController. In the farm, many times PathFindController will fail to figure out how to make a path - including some ridiculously short paths - e.g. find your way from 75,18 to 75,14, when all those tiles are empty except for walkways. Strangely, they can find a path from 75,18 to 75,15. I know zero about map-making, but it feels like there are perhaps some boundaries set up in that map that's preventing PathFindController from working. Before I go digging into the rabbit hole, is there anybody who knows map-making that can give me a hint?

[cosmic thorn]

ah okay it looks like that "Condition": "DAY_OF_WEEK Wednesday, TIME 1100 1500",

[brittle ledge]

Oh Nerm, while you're here, I had a question about Junimatic! I see you have a note that "many" modded machines are compatible with it, but is it that you did compat for specific ones or did you come up with a way to auto-categorize them?

[harsh radish]

Hello, everyone. I'm creating a mod that adds an NPC, but I don't want to make a whole room for them. Instead, I want the NPC to reach the final spot in their schedule and then disappear. I looked into examples of characters without a room who disappear at the end of the day (like Claire from Stardew Valley Expanded), and it seems she had a 'warp room.' How can I implement this?

[hoary lake]

This sounds fancy!

[dusk mulch]

responding to this btw

[harsh radish]

Thanks a lot!

[hallow prism]

what?

[dusk mulch]

they want their NPC to dissapear at the end of their schedule so that would do it

[hallow prism]

how?

you don't need to explain what they want, i understood this part, it is yours that i don't

[hallow prism]

warp rooms are usually for starting a day, but this is usually done by :

• having a hidden npc warp on a map so npcs can access the warp room but player can't
• having this warp leading to the "warp room" in question.

frankly i'm not sure it's too much necessary, just having the npc going in some bit of hidden part of the map will be enough for most people even with a npc map mod

[gentle rose]

don’t tell me what to do

[proven spindle]

There's also mods that add rooms for new npcs so you don't have to make your own btw, like the pelican lofts one

[brittle ledge]

Where did you get this idea?

[rancid musk]

I hope so! I've just about got a PR for NPC Map Locations finished. After this I'm going to fix a small bug I've noticed, and maybe work on adding scrolling for tabs. 🤔

[hallow prism]

@harsh radish mentioning you so you can see this

[dusk mulch]

First thing that came to mind, also the thing that made the most sense to me

[harsh radish]

Thanks! My NPC actually got really confused for being sent to -100 -100

[dusk mulch]

im going to get cooked by yall

[brittle ledge]

That's not going to work. Please don't give people advice if you're not sure it's correct.

[harsh radish]

Hahaha, but that’s ok, at least you didn’t misspell “wrap room”

[hallow prism]

(at the minimal, mention it's a guess)

i once wrote "shedshop" and wondered why my stuff wasn't working

[drowsy pewter]

They are auto categorized based on their rules iirc

[brittle ledge]

thank you! Did I just miss this information on the mod page somewhere?

[drowsy pewter]

Kisaa is around here as well so you could talk to them if you dont get an answer

[drowsy pewter]

I think I asked nerm about it around release because of cornucopia (and we never discussed what to do with cornucopia machines, but they work). Autosorting wont work for every machine tho

[hard fern]

do i have to do anything special for the water troughs to get them to Work or no?

[hallow prism]

it's a slime hutch? i think it works by using the tile index or something

should be auto

test and see

[hard fern]

adding on, is it possible for me to make other buildings function as a greenhouse, or no

[lucid iron]

yea its very easy

just need IsGreenhouse=T

on map prop

[hard fern]

oh thanks

[tidal stone]

whats a Delimiter

[brittle ledge]

@dusk mulch while I've got you here, where did you get that NPC list you linked on the modding wiki the other day? Did you curate that?

[brittle ledge]

are you looking at festival stuff?

[tidal stone]

Yea

[brittle ledge]

It's basically what goes inbetween each entry, which should be a space iirc

if you're copying the code from somewhere (like my festival template) you shouldn't need to change it.

[tidal stone]

OH

your tutorial is very helpful

[gentle rose]

@dusk mulch to clarify why it’s important to know where the list came from, wikis require specific types of attribution, and external links in general need to be very well-selected to prevent outsiders causing trouble without anyone noticing

[brittle ledge]

Also I'm not really sure what the criteria for this list is, because it's missing some things and includes other things that aren't NPCs

[dusk mulch]

I made it

I talked with... I am not sure if they want to be named but I talked with someone from this chat about it and they said it would be fine

[dusk mulch]

I will sort through it, I linked any mods that affect, add or remove NPC's in any way

[rigid musk]

Every time I get a comment about Qi getting stuck in the damn Casino I lose a year off of my life

[brittle ledge]

If you're adding any mods that affect NPCs in any way, including things like portraits or reskins or replacers or vanilla expansions, you may as well just link the whole category. As it is, I don't think the list is that useful because I imagine people looking at the page you linked it on are going to be looking for custom NPCs only.

[dusk mulch]

hey mr qi is stuck in the casino what do i do

[rigid musk]

[dusk mulch]

Well you are free to remove it as it is a public wiki

[dreamy cedar]

Sorry, I got called away. Basically machines that have simple input/output rules work. There's so many counterexamples it'd be hard to quantify the success rate as more than just "Most". E.g. there's a Soda Machine mod (I forget what now), which has a machine where the input and the "fuel" can be the same, which causes some mayhem. (But I think now the mayhem is limited to that machine just always getting fed that recipe because of how the search algo works.)

[brittle ledge]

thanks and no worries! I just wasn't sure which junimo I should be looking for with some of the machines I'm playing with (they're not doing anything very complex, i don't think). I've been enjoying it so far!

[rigid musk]

I was thinking about doing mod commissions/putting myself on the commissions page but I don't actually know how to price those... nor do I know what exactly I would do FOR mod commissions

[hot gale]

What are the constraints for size of craftables? Specifically bigmachines?

[rigid musk]

16x32

Iirc

[ornate trellis]

you can check out the others on that page and see how they price themself to get a feel for it

[rigid musk]

I should fix Qi's schedules... and the dialogue line that was reported... and his festival position with Sen installed... but I don't want to do any of that

That's a good point...

[dusk mulch]

can you draw well? specifically a 64x64 pixel art

no its not a portrait

[brittle ledge]

basic guideline: $15/hr

[rigid musk]

If you mean portraits... I'm commissioning Pau for a reaso- ope

Uh well what is the pixel art because technically yes

Hi Iro hi Chu

[lucid iron]

oh do you obey MachineDataUtility.CanApplyOutput

[rigid musk]

[gentle rose]

also DM me your prices once you do decide them because I’m decent at telling people to raise those prices up immediately

[brittle ledge]

but also I'm going to get on my usual soapbox and say don't monetize all your hobbies

[rigid musk]

Look one of my other friends have been trying to get me to raise the prices of my art commissions for several years and I haven't done that ... so

[ornate trellis]

i jsut eyeballed mine, i dont really get comms and if i do its usually just for a portrait so im like i guess this is fine i jsut do it for funsies anyway

[rigid musk]

Also don't worry Tia I won't be doing it to the point where I won't enjoy it :3

[gentle rose]

am I going to have to be mad at you for underpricing

lily I will sic like ten other mod authors on you

[rigid musk]

If they can't stop me no one can

[ornate trellis]

that said 15 bucks an hour is more than i make irl but then again i cant price my art hourly because i have a weird schedule drawing my stuff

[gentle rose]

you don’t price it actually hour per hour - you set an hourly price of at least $15/h then estimate how long each type of thing usually takes you to make. So if a portrait typically takes you three hours, you should be charging at least $45

[ornate trellis]

googles dollar-euro coversion rate to check again

[gentle rose]

.wolfram 15usd in euros

[patent lance]

€14.41 (euros) (February 28, 2025)

[hard fern]

ooh so thats how people price it

i thought they just pulled a number out of a hat

[ornate trellis]

pixel art portraits usually take me less than an hour if i am not struggling tho

[brittle ledge]

yeah, the way I see it is, would you be better off spending that time working a regular job?

if you're making less in that time than you would flipping burgers, it's too low

[gentle rose]

it’s a bit of that, too - you want to match other people in the same area as you, your skill level, affordability (to an extent, though don’t undersell yourself too much), and just expecations

[ornate locust]

My problem with commission vs time is that I lose all track of time when I work, so my idea of how long anything takes is like ???

[gentle rose]

how much are you charging for them rn?

[rigid musk]

I don't really think about that mostly because the things I do commissions for are also hobbies I enjoy so I don't really... care? I guess

[ornate trellis]

uh

[brittle ledge]

I know Aseprite can track time, other art programs might be able to as well!

[ornate locust]

I just work and then it's 2 AM, time is hard

[dreamy cedar]

Tbh, I'm not sure. What usually impacts whether it can work or not is whether or not it can look at the input&output rules to figure out what item it's producing, and from there draw a line to what sort of Junimo ought to work on it. So if it's a custom machine using custom inputs and custom outputs where none of those outputs have Category tags, it's gonna get lost.

[ornate trellis]

20€..

[rigid musk]

I also have ADHD so ... something could take me 8 hours but it's only like 3 hours of actual work

and it's hard for me to gague that because my brain goes to a billion different places

[gentle rose]

a bit low considering the quality your art usually has, but if it takes you less than an hour, not terrible. I’d raise it to like 30eur but that’s just me

[ornate locust]

I use Photoshop, not sure it has that. I could just time it if I was THINKING about it, but I'm a bit of a "productive hypomanic spell" type

[brittle ledge]

yeah, that's one of the reasons I say don't monetize - doing it at a professional level requires a shift in mindset

[ornate trellis]

thats also my problem(tho not cuz of ADHD I jsut get distracted)

[gentle rose]

(don’t have a euro symbol on my keyboard lol)

[brittle ledge]

and when I say "professional level" I don't mean rolling out the red carpet, I mean basic courtesy like sticking to deadlines and charging a price that's fair to both sides

[ornate locust]

yeah, monetizing is a whole thing. That's why I don't ADVERTISE commissions, but I have done them when I saw someone wanting something done I knew I could do.

[naive wyvern]

(i reckon if youre at that point where things are easy for you, you SHOULD price higher people are paying for not only your time, but also your expertise, and experience and style)

[ornate trellis]

i just feel like since i barely get comms anyway i shouldnt feel too snobby and be like i want a bazillion bucks if noone comms me to begin with(but i also dont advertise so its not me complaining here or anything)

[lucid iron]

For custom outputs (i.e. OutputMethod) i did thing like, make the delegate and probe it with all items

[hard fern]

😔 people have asked me if i take commissions and i always have to tell them no lol

[versed wyvern]

The thing about pricing for commissions is that you unironically have to do the "for exposure" song and dance at first

[lucid iron]

It's kind of expensive and unreliable with a fake not actually placed anywhere machine

[dusk mulch]

i feel like you would be really good at commisions

[hard fern]

i have the world's worst time management

[naive wyvern]

Void has enough cred to charge higher imo (since void's prices were brought up id use that as an example)
(Typically portraits are around 45-60usd)

[brittle ledge]

assuming you're not closed for comms right now, you should put it in your username

[lucid iron]

For u it might not be as bad if have a connected chest to obtain list of inputs to probe on

[gentle rose]

eh, I don’t fully agree. You should build up a portfolio of non-commission art and then charge for commissions properly. Doing commissions for cheap/free is draining and sets a bad precedence.

[dusk mulch]

i thought you said "I have the world's worst management" and i thought you were saying you hated your job

[hard fern]

oh right since more people are here: does anyone know how to add an optional file on your mod page to be included in the update key?

[versed wyvern]

The problem is even if you don't set low, many others will

[tribal ore]

Why. Is there. Dialogue. In the CS files?

"NPC.cs.4422": "Sometimes I wonder if I'm doing the right thing with my life...$s",

[brittle ledge]

if no one knows, you could look at DSV's addon packs and see how they do it?

[gentle rose]

wdym?

[rigid musk]

I'm pretty good at getting things done in a timely manner when needed (I.e. doing a 5 panel comic in 5 days) but I just don't know how long it actually takes me

[ornate trellis]

tho coming back to tias to not monetize every hobby comment...art being a hobby and WANTING to enjoy it is ultimately why I stopped persueing art as a career(since it make me hate doing art)

[lucid iron]

These used to be hardcoded strings

They got extracted

[rigid musk]

Speaking of portfolios I need to update mine... mine is from literal years ago

[brittle ledge]

there's lots of dialogue in StringsFromCSFiles yeah

[ornate trellis]

that is probs a good idea lol

[brittle ledge]

all the stuff we used to have hardcoded

[tribal ore]

They're showing up in my bloody game!

[brittle ledge]

What were you expecting to show up?

[lucid iron]

Yes...?

[tribal ore]

And I don't know a way to overwrite them

[gentle rose]

yeah, they’re meant to?

[lucid iron]

Just EditData them

[naive wyvern]

to add onto iro's point as well, this mentality often hurts the entire marketplace in general
because there will always be an influx of people new to commissions, if they somehow start dominating the market because theyre cheaper than what the standard is, the people who have been around with proper high prices will be forced to lower too

[tribal ore]

Edit data NPC.cs?

[ornate locust]

Yeah I think dealing with it in that way just hurts the whole market

[lucid iron]

Edit StringsFromCSFiles

[brittle ledge]

You shouldn't have to edit it though since most of those should be dehardcoded?

[ornate locust]

Not that I haven't made things for free, but I did that because I wanted and it was for a friend, you know?

[versed wyvern]

Complications arise when you consider that competition is fierce among artists of lower notoriety, it's just a matter of supply and demand there

[rigid musk]

It's why my com prices are fair and not too low even if I don't like how high they are, because I know it hurts other people

[ornate trellis]

mood

[rigid musk]

I do enjoy making things for my friends

[tribal ore]

It's "bad" marriage dialogue. I added a bunch of replacement Bad_ marriage dialogue via the wiki

So I'm cheezed to see them show up

[ornate trellis]

hides my other comm prices from chat

[lucid iron]

They r dehardcoded in that they are now part of assets instead of built into the Stardew Valley.dll

[ornate locust]

I still think this doesn't actually add a complication. Unless you are trying to do this for a living as your only income, you should value yur work.

[gentle rose]

you come back here so we can make you raise them

[lucid iron]

But not in terms of having them called in a more formalized way

[naive wyvern]

friend pricing is different, I was speaking for general marketplace viewpoint

tbh im too broke to commission people so what I do is I barter with my friends iudusafas

[ornate locust]

I have done commissions with basically zero notoriety for decent prices.

[versed wyvern]

Further complicated by the fact that many artists can do business out of countries with much lower cost of living thanks to the internet and you directly have to compete with their pricing

[tribal ore]

Alr thank you

[lucid iron]

You should just replace the strings in the asset

[ornate trellis]

it does not help that i link em in my profile tbh but heehoo i just eyeball prices like thriwing darts at a board

[brittle ledge]

Mud, this isn't the general market. There aren't a ton of people doing stardew comms and most of them have reasonable prices.

[tribal ore]

I can't believe they are showing up when I have a full set of Bad_0-9 strings in my file :((

[gentle rose]

I think some of you are overestimating how “competition” works in art - you have a style, and as much as there are many artists available, there are also a lot of people who want specific things

[rigid musk]

I miss the days when a rich person would take on an artist and basically have them do all of their art for them... dramatic sigh

[versed wyvern]

When it comes to portraits, art is art

[naive wyvern]

stardew comms in this example is very niche

[ornate locust]

I think worrying about direct competition and "winning" competition is the enemy of getting anything done for an amount that is reasonable for your time

[rigid musk]

it kinda isn't though with portraits? SDV has a specific portrait style you know? which means the 'market' for it is slimmer

AKA it's this market and this community - obviously you have a few other styles for portraits but it's still a very much smaller market than the overall 'art' community - even portraits for like... more realistic styles usually take on a specific stardew adjacent feeling

[dusk mulch]

"Math is math!"

[ornate locust]

If you are working at basically a loss, that is never going to be viable. It just doesn't work that way. You don't work at a loss until ?? you can start working for a decent amount. And the people who buy commissions for style vs "it's cheap!" aren't the same people either. You're getting reputation with people who just want low prices

Raise your prices and enjoy your angry asshole old customers

[rigid musk]

Yeahh, I agree. I've always hated the idea of doing anything 'for exposure'

[ornate locust]

just gonna get stuck in a rut of being "the cheap one" and you can't change without losing your current customers

[rigid musk]

Exposure my arse, go away and find someone else. If you aren't going to pay me what I believe I'm worth then you aren't worth my time... that's my feeling anyways

[brittle ledge]

"for exposure" is something that's usually sold to you by people who can afford you and just don't want to pay

and also a lot of artists don't do the math on how effective that "exposure" will be

[ornate trellis]

[rigid musk]

Exactly - also if they can't afford your prices they probably shouldn't be getting art in the first place

It's a luxury not a requirement

same reason why I would never judge someone who makes blankets for charging hundreds of dollars. Materials, skill, time... all of it makes it worth it, and I don't NEED that blanket

[versed wyvern]

Bear in mind I'm not meaning working for free here, but that I think pricing for our worth by calculating by hourly wage often results in unrealistic expectations

[ornate locust]

I've got friends who do commissions for art, underpriced themselves through lack of experience, and tried to adjust to decent prices when their talent level pushed up their confidence. Absolute shitshow each time. Awesome way to get harassed.

[rigid musk]

(people make some amazing blankets...)

[ornate trellis]

this convo makes me feel like i should just ask yall what i should price for all i offer lol

[dusk mulch]

"I will pay you in exposure, I don't have to pay!" 5 followers

[ornate locust]

My favorites were customers who commissioned them and then tried to pay old prices, just acting like nothing had changed? Some of them tried to pull the "I've been a good customer" card

[rigid musk]

I mean... how so though? Because if you don't do that you often, like Tia said, end up working for less than you would get to flip burgers at a fast food joint... and in that case how is it even worth your time? Less than minimum wage for what?

[ornate trellis]

exposure aint nutricious enough

[brittle ledge]

okay but if you can earn more money doing a basic job that takes little time and energy, why would you earn less for a job requiring much more

[rigid musk]

Any skill or thing you have takes time and effort to hone - it deserves to be rewarded with a proper amount of payment

[dusk mulch]

exposure dont pay the bills

[ornate locust]

If people can't pay burger flipping numbers for your art, they can't afford commissioning

[rigid musk]

atrocious oh my god

If you've been a good customer you can be an even greater one by paying the price we agreed on

[ornate locust]

People looove just being entitled as hell about art

[rigid musk]

It's such a weird thing. I hate when people say 'well I could get it for cheaper at [insert place or person or thing here].' Like okay... then do that then

[brittle ledge]

also if you're from a country with a weaker currency compared to the US/EU, that's more reason to keep your prices up. Let the strong currency make your life better.

[hard fern]

😅 are we allowed to showcase our mod again if we put out an update

[brittle pasture]

as long as you don't do it once every other day, sure

[dusk mulch]

yes

[brittle ledge]

Sure, assuming it's not something you just showcased real recently

[rigid musk]

Yeah! Usually it's for bigger updates but as long as you aren't spamming it or anything you're fine

[hallow prism]

Yes if its spaced reasonably

[hard fern]

i last showcased it like,,, mid february

[versed wyvern]

Love for the craft and building up a following while you also build up your skill level until you think you're good enough to charge more, for the most part

[hard fern]

is that too soon?

[lucid iron]

eh its fine

[ornate trellis]

id say thats enough especially if other mshowcased a lot in between

[rigid musk]

I probably should have put out another showcase for v.1.0.3 of my Qi mod .... I did add his little museum thing

Mid february was a long while ago at this point, I've seen people do a mod once a week or so, so you're definitely fine

[ornate locust]

That's how you get people saying "well it's a hobby, you love what you do, why are you charging decent amounts?"

[hallow prism]

Sounds ok. If it was regularly two weeks i may feel different

[versed wyvern]

Well those people can suck an egg

[rigid musk]

Or people getting angry at you raising your prices in the first place

[brave fable]

i mean it's up to you if you think the update is worth showcasing, if it's bugfixes i'd probably skip it

[rigid musk]

If those people can suck an egg ... then why not just have your prices already priced at a good amount right from the start?

[brittle ledge]

if you're going to make your passion a job, you need to treat it like a job and that includes having a reasonable wage

[ornate locust]

if you're asking for money, it's not being a hobby at this time, it's being work.

[hallow prism]

I can do stuff for love at my own rythm and my own pressure

[versed wyvern]

I evaluate this kind of thing from what I personally think I can produce, and I create too slowly to make an hourly rate a realistic point of reference

[rigid musk]

There's also a difference between making your friends art and showing it off, and making art for yourself and showing THAT off, and then doing commissions and posting those for a reasonable price

[hallow prism]

Not everyone has to commission stuff

[calm nebula]

Guess why I don't sell my knitwear lol

It makes for nice gifts though

[rigid musk]

I mean I can understand that to an extent (again something can take me 10 hours, but in reality it was probably more like 4 and six hours of that was me doing sweet FA)

[brittle ledge]

Good!

[rigid musk]

God I can't wait to get into crocheting...

I will make so many little junimos

[ornate locust]

Yeah I'm not open for commissions because I don't have the confidence in my work for it. I don't undercharge just out of lack of confidence, I just don't... do it

[hallow prism]

Also no one will come and be "wow you said it took 3 hiurs when it was five" but we give advices for the person' good and the community good

[hard fern]

now time to forget my nexus page exists for.... about like. another few weeks until i feel confident enough to upload my other mods 😔

[versed wyvern]

And what I do produce in that time feels equivalent to me to what a more skilled artist who actually can calculate by the hour may produce in less time

[ornate locust]

I have offered in specific circumstances when I was confident, and I got paid for my time. I've done freelance before, so I refuse to charge less than someone just working at a McDonalds no matter what I put out.

[gentle rose]

it does but then you go on crochet communities and see people get annoyed that they gave someone crocheted baby booties as a “gift” and they dared not use them on their baby regularly some people will always take things too far lmao (imo if you give a gift, you shouldn’t be giving a burden, just give it and let them do what they want with it)

[ornate locust]

there is nothing wrong with working minimum wage, but I think there is wrong with being paid under that

[hallow prism]

Anyway i should go to sleep. See you!

[ornate trellis]

if youree long enough into the game therell be a point where the lack of confidence becomes a lack of giving a shit and be like eh ill put it out there and if someone wants it thats cool if not then no harm done either

at least thats it for me :B

[rigid musk]

Bye bye Lumi!

[calm nebula]

Yeah....

[ornate trellis]

i dont get people like that i personally find handcrafted gifts really cool

[calm nebula]

I basically will only gift superwash wool

Tbh

I'm not gifting someone a hand-wash anything unless they are a fellow knitter

[ornate locust]

and I'm currently unemployed to take care of family, it's not like I'm rich. I'll still ask what my time's worth at least

[ornate trellis]

my bro got me some socks one of his regulars(hes a hairdresser) made and I wear them often

[ornate locust]

Oh yeah. Washing can be... a problem with knit

[gentle rose]

all wool is superwash if you care little enough or are using polyester

[rigid musk]

home made gifts of any kind are ones that are close to my heart

even if they aren't like 'professional'

[gentle rose]

(I refuse to go as far as using acrylic ever again)

[rigid musk]

like oh my god you cared so much for me you MADE me a thing? what if i cried right now actually

[ornate trellis]

i miss the time my grandma made us kids so much socks n gloves etc

[proven spindle]

Anyone know if there's a way to set a flag at the completion of a monster slaying quest? I can trigger mailflags in the reaction dialogue of itemdelivery quests, but that doesn't seem to work for monster ones

[ornate locust]

Absolutely, I've still got a drawing a friend who I haven't seen in decades gave me in school. I can't understand people who think handmade stuff is a bad gift

[ornate trellis]

or like those pants or w/e you wear underneath when its winter

[rigid musk]

you could probably do a GSQ for monsters killed (for a specific monster) and just make it the same number as each Monster slaying goal .. or do you mean like actual quests like the ones on the board?

[proven spindle]

Basically I have an action addquest during an event, then the quest shows up in the journal to slay x monsters. But it doesn't seem to allow for custom reaction dialogue the way other quests do - it defaults to a string I didn't put there (I think it's one of the board defaults)

[rigid musk]

Huh... I did a slay monster quest and was able to have dialogue after it

let me see how I did that

"{{ModId}}_QiMonsterSlaying4.quest": "Monster/{{i18n:Aos.QiMonsterSlayingQuest4.name}}/{{i18n:Aos.QiMonsterSlayingQuest4.desc|QiNameTitle= {{QiNameTitle}}}}/{{i18n:Aos.QiMonsterSlayingQuest4.obj}}/Pepper_Rex 35/-1/15000/-1/true/{{i18n:Aos.QiMonsterSlayingQuest4.reaction|QiPlayerTitle= {{QiPlayerTitle}}}}",

I'm not sure what your string looks like but this is how I did mine

with the last i18n string being the reaction dialogue

[proven spindle]

This is what mine looks like, I did some guesswork since there wasn't a good example in the vanilla quests.json but it seemed to work up until the reaction dialogue part

Monster/Clear the Lair/Help Krobus by getting rid of the flies in the lair./Slay 100 flies./Fly 100 Krobus/-1/0/-1/false/Thanks @! Meet me in the lair tomorrow.#$action AddMail Current {{ModId}}_Intro4

Thanks! Let me see if there's any differences to yours

[rigid musk]

Hmm I don't think it needs quotes or else mine would have quotes around the i18n token...

I'm guessing it might have something to do with the add mail part

[proven spindle]

Well when I talked to Krobus at the end he said something like 'thanks for taking care of that problem for us', so the dialogue itself wasn't what I put lol

Worth noting I copied the action part from one of my itemdelivery quests where I do the same thing and it worked there

[rigid musk]

How weird... I wonder if it defaults to a generic reaction if you have something invalid but I can't see why what you put would be invalid

Do you have that dialogue written anywhere else

[proven spindle]

Your condition part of the quest string (Pepper_Rex 35) doesn't mention what npc to talk to for the reaction dialogue, how do you set that up?

[unique sigil]

hi! i do not use junimatic so i don't quite understand how it works, but does the pathfinding get affected by the NPCBarrier T tile property? i put those in my farm maps often, usually at both ends of a bridge/stepping stone path/stairs. and they do get placed in tiles that are seemingly "empty" (i.e. no tiles on the Buildings layer).

(i would open the map in tiled to see what's in the coordinates you mentioned, but im feeling rather unwell right now)

[proven spindle]

Nope, it's not one of mine

[rigid musk]

You know.. that's a damn good question No one has reported any issues with the quests so I don't know... how I did that

give me a second

[hard fern]

ugh im pretty sure i have the wrong manifest in my mod but you know what ill just hope no one notices

[rigid musk]

queue the comments

[hard fern]

😔

[brittle ledge]

as in you didn't update the version number or you put in the manifest for a different mod?

[hard fern]

didnt update the version number

[brittle ledge]

oh yeah, we all do that. People might comment but you can tell them to change it manually and hold it til next update if you want

[hard fern]

😔 im never updating that mod again unless something breaks

[brittle ledge]

If you had the wrong mod's manifest in there THAT would be a problem you'd have to fix

[jade wing]

Hi, does anyone know if its possible to create a custom cooking station which excludes the base game recipes using content patcher?

trying to make a cook top which only shows my custom recipes :3

[brittle ledge]

I think there's a mod for that but lemme look rq

[jade wing]

Thank you!

[calm nebula]

I think Better Crafting supports that

[lucid iron]

better crafting yep

for example see baubles and alchemistry

[brittle ledge]

Oh dang, I didn't know Better Crafting did that!

Listen to them then

[jade wing]

I see so its only possible using another mod

[lucid iron]

yep

[jade wing]

Thank you so much for the help!

[brittle ledge]

Unless you're willing to do your own C# code for it, yeah

[lucid iron]

well, to be clear you use both content patcher and better crafting

[jade wing]

yh both together hahah

[lucid iron]

content patcher to target the better crafting asset that defines the station

[hard fern]

ooh... uhh 😓 did i fuck up by extending the slime hutch map upwards

[lucid iron]

did u fix warp

down is normally alright

[hard fern]

it should be fixed 🤔

[jade wing]

okay thanks 🙂

[hard fern]

but alas it's spawning me 10 tiles up into the wall

[lucid iron]

try data layers?

[hard fern]

thats a mod right?

[lucid iron]

yep

one of the layers show u warps

[astral oyster]

After several hours of errors I need to ask, does Festivals just not work with NPC's using the 1.21.0 format in the current 1.6 version of the game?

[tidal stone]

im doing fesativals and im trying to add the ability to dance with my npc but i dont know how tio get the json to accept it because idk what im missing in the code, anyone able to help?
https://smapi.io/json/none/08e499f96f1f47e99022fb4bdd2ac562

[hard fern]

why are you using format 1.21.0?

the latest is 2.5.0

[astral oyster]

Because I don't understand the new format; after several weeks of trying to understand it I just went back to using the older NPC creator tool

[uncut viper]

i cant say for festivals specifically, but the further behind your format is the fewer guarantees you have that they will work as you desire them to

the NPC creator isnt updated for 1.6 so its unlikely to support the newer stuff for festivals, which i believe the setup-additionalcharacters stuff is? (i could be wrong)

[ornate locust]

If you can get it working, I suspect it'll only be every other year anyway since they added y2 stuff

[uncut viper]

you should really just learn the 1.6 way of doing things

you're always welcome to ask for help in here

[tiny zealot]

the year 1 additional characters fields worked in 1.5.6. but yes, using the old NPC creator these days is asking for this type of problem

[hard fern]

mhm, it's best to be caught up with all the latest functions

[uncut viper]

it seems like you forgot to actually write the "TextOperations": line?

in the line that its pointing you to for the error

[tidal stone]

Oh no i must have erased it when i added the animation line >.< ty for pointing it out

[tiny zealot]

the other thing about FlowerDanceCanDance is that tia discovered (via Jorts) that it seems not to work for non-romanceable NPCs in 1.6.15 (don't recall if it's only non-vanilla NPCs)

[tidal stone]

wait actually i dont know where this text operation line goes i thought it was the other one under flower dance but its still there

[astral oyster]

Well back to attempting to learning how to use the new format I guess; thanks for the help

[tidal stone]

I think I found where i put it !

[hard fern]

ok so... warp busted

i literally can't move

from this tile

and with the other one, same issue

let me try something

ok so apparently "EditMap" does not work for warps, only Load???

for... whatever reason

[rigid musk]

After... all of that time testing I have discoverd that, in fact, the quest dialogue does not work so that's.... interesting

I could have sworn they worked before

[hard fern]

the thing is though, my water troughs won't work 😔

uh oh

[proven spindle]

It's ok, we can be bamboozled together 🫂

[hard fern]

oh my god please don't tell me the water is hardcoded

[versed wyvern]

So yours also displays a generic vanilla string?

[tidal stone]

ok i opened the game and smapi immediately told me it couldn't parse the json

which i dont get because it doesnt show any errors 😭

let me send the logs if anyones able to look

https://smapi.io/log/cd26268147c64c328c8d6675ab074fa9

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, with 15 C# mods and 26 content packs.

[tidal stone]

https://smapi.io/json/none/336f2f59fd6e455fb2415eb9580feb55

[hard fern]

guess what everyone, apparently it's hardcoded 💀

i had to put them at the exact coords on the vanilla one for it to work

[dusk mulch]

do you want the error laid out for you so it is easier to understand or for me to show you how to fix it

[tidal stone]

id like to understand it so i can fix it

[dusk mulch]

So at line 60 you are using the wrong type of array, which means you are using {} or [] instead of the other one.

[tidal stone]

oooh

so they both do different things i take it

[dusk mulch]

Yeah, [] is a list, {} is for patches

Does anyone have a CP mod I can look at that has a config.json so I can understand the config system better?

[uncut viper]

to clarify there is only one type that is an array, thats brackets []
{} is for objects, not just patches

TextOperations takes a list of TextOperation objects

[tidal stone]

changed it but now the colons have turned red

https://smapi.io/json/none/df6538c7722a408e998d435ccfa602cf

[uncut viper]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/text-operations.md

it needs to look like the examples in the docs, with the right braces and brackets

[rigid musk]

hm I wish mail sent quests had flags I could use...

[tidal stone]

ty ty

[vernal crest]

EditMap doesn't transfer map properties in your patch .tmx to the target map. You need to use CP's MapProperties field to edit them.

[hard fern]

well Loading it won't hurt anything, will it?

[proven spindle]

Just sharing how it looks for me (in one image to avoid clogging chat):

• 1 get the quest
• 2 do the quest, it now correctly says to talk to Krobus
• 3-5 Krobus says this
• 6 quest shows this
  Code again, for reference (changed number of flies for easier testing):

Monster/Clear the Lair/Help Krobus by getting rid of the flies in the lair./Slay 1 flies./Fly 1 Krobus/-1/0/-1/false/Thanks @! Meet me in the lair tomorrow.#$action AddMail Current {{ModId}}_Intro4

[vernal crest]

Both of my mods use config if you want to check them. And if you don't already have the config docs link https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/config.md

[vernal crest]

Assuming that you're intending for your mod to be incompatible with any other mod that completely replaces the slime hutch interior and that you make it clear on your mod description that it will be incompatible (for the benefit of that one user who actually reads the mod page) then you should be fine.

[hard fern]

😅 yeah i hope people read... i can't fathom why anyone would install 2 mods that change the slime hutch interior completely and expect them to be compatible though

[vernal crest]

If replacing the slime hutch is the entire point of your mod, all good. If it's just an extra part of a mod that does a bunch of stuff I would suggest considering a config option so people can turn yours off if they want to use your mod with another slime hutch mod.

[dusk mulch]

Ohhh so you just put the conditions into the config.json then you can use the ID's for the conditions as tokens in a when action?

[hard fern]

ah yeah no it's meant to replace it completely haha

[vernal crest]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha oh you sweet summer child

[tidal stone]

new problem i cant talk to her XD

[hard fern]

😅 every day mod users surprise me with "this was not on my bingo card"

[dusk mulch]

i put in giant text "Compatible with SVE" on my mod and someone asked "Is this compatible with SVE?" I think that sums it up

[lucid mulch]

(please do the load rather than the 100% override via EditMap)

[vernal crest]

People absolutely do that. People also install two mods that replace the same asset completely without realising that's what the mods do, or forget they already have one and get a second, or misunderstand what "incompatible" means...

[proven spindle]

If it's an itemdelivery quest you can add a mail flag. This is how one of my mods does it

ItemDelivery/Frog Habitat Materials/Sebastian needs a lot of moss to set up habitats for the Gourmand Frogs./Deliver 500 Moss to Sebastian/Sebastian Moss 500/-1/0/-1/false/Perfect!#$action AddMail Current Si_SF_M3
(Add 'received' at the end to bypass the mailbox)
It just doesn't seem to work for monster quests

[hot gale]

Late, but thanks!

[tiny zealot]

gotta be a toss-up between that and asking if smapi is sve compatible in the running for GOAT

[lucid mulch]

my favorites from the 1.6 alpha thread

[tidal stone]

can someone explain what my log means by 2 segments
https://smapi.io/log/023e8ba9ecb140f4b376ab43c29b9eeb

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, with 15 C# mods and 26 content packs.

[dusk mulch]

bump

[lucid mulch]

!json what does your assets/data/festivals.json look like?

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[calm nebula]

One thing I remind myself

The average stardew mod user is a child

[tidal stone]

https://smapi.io/json/none/363c228ddbf244a2a5332badd35efe06

[calm nebula]

Who barely can point the mouse in the right direction

[vernal crest]

Yup

[dusk mulch]

Alright, ty!

[versed wyvern]

Or just adults who act like children

[calm nebula]

If I'm not willing to be patient with them - and often I am not - I can go do other things

With user bases that are older, more mature, etc

More technical

[tiny zealot]

i don't think this behavior is specific to stardew players. every user base is like this, in my experience

[versed wyvern]

Have you by any chance tried replacing the response dialogue with a simpler line with no action just to see if the quest completion is working as expected to begin with?

[hard fern]

somehow modding attracts some of the most stubborn people who won't listen to you when you say "no it doesnt work like that"

[dusk mulch]

wait let me see if i can find a thread for this exact thing, i was in it

#modded-stardew message

this is the funniest stuff lol

[proven spindle]

I'd tried that initially and it didn't work then, but I've changed a few other parts of the code since then, let me give it another go

[lucid mulch]

Ah, in L63 you used "Fields" rather than "Entries"
Entries is two segments total, ["Entries", "ThingyouAreEditing"]
Fields is three, ["Fields", "ThingyouAreEditing", "SpecificThing"]
you probably wanted Entries like you did for L44

[tidal stone]

Aaah thank you for you rhelp 😄

[proven spindle]

@versed wyvern nope, removing the action didn't change anything

[reef kiln]

The fun of festival placement.

[lucid mulch]

festival placement is easier if you dont want to do fancy stuff

[versed wyvern]

How strange. Could monster quests be hardcoded to just be from Help Wanted requests? Has no one else tried to add a monster kill quest before?

[proven spindle]

That's what I'm wondering

[calm nebula]

Quests were through Quest Framework in 1.5.6

Very few people have tried quests in 1.6

[proven spindle]

There's only one monster quest in the quests.json, that's to unlock the guild. The rest are board quests

[reef kiln]

ES has a special order to kill crabs. Not sure if that helps.

[calm nebula]

Special Orders are entirely different

[proven spindle]

Fun fact, the guild one actually has the 'next quest' field filled out for a location quest that takes you to the actual guild, so you're actualy doing 2 quests when you do that one

[tidal stone]

Ok my only problem now is that the NPC is invisible

when you actually dance with them in the festival

[rigid musk]

Everything works with the monster quests except for the reaction dialogue which is... annoying

[tiny zealot]

oh you have to have sprites at specific indexes for that

[tidal stone]

i havean idea

[reef kiln]

Did you make dance sprites? They go in a specific place on the sprite sheet if I remember right.

[tidal stone]

yea i just realised i think i should put the name of the sprite sheet next to anime maybe?

*animate

[versed wyvern]

Maybe you can follow the example and make your kill quest lead to a quest to talk to Krobus for the follow-up if this truly is not working?

[rigid musk]

Anyways it's sleepy time. If anyone figures out anything for the quests please ping me 🕺💃🕺✨️✨️

[reef kiln]

Night

[proven spindle]

To my knowledge there isn't a 'talk to npc' quest type

And I can't set an event precondition for a sewer location event to occur only after this quest is done without a flag

[tiny zealot]

quests are a bit cursed

[calm nebula]

Could use the quest complete conversation topic

One second

[versed wyvern]

Well, if the initiation quest leads to a quest with the objective to enter the Adventurer's Guild, can you make your second quest's objective to enter the sewer?

[calm nebula]

questComplete_YourQuestID

[proven spindle]

Can I set reaction dialogue (and therefore a flag) for a location quest? I can try it, but since it would complete automatically upon entering the sewer without talking to him I don't know if it would fire

[proven spindle]

Is that a dialogue key?

[calm nebula]

Conversation topic

Hell

[versed wyvern]

Conversation Topic sounds like it should work but that runs the risk of the player not talking to Krobus before it expires, doesn't it?

[calm nebula]

You could check for the existence of that conversation topic

In a trigger action

If you're trying to set a flag

Hi ichor

[tiny zealot]

yeah, the auto CTs are great but unreliable as event preconditions since there's no precondition for "this CT was ever active"

there's only "active now"

(or not)

[calm nebula]

But it doesn't matter for a mod released in 1.6

Right?

Just put a data/triggeraction off that CT

[tiny zealot]

oh, true, yeah

[calm nebula]

Set a mail flag

Then use the mail flag

[tiny zealot]

annoying extra step but should work

[tidal stone]

i have a character sheet that goes 0 to 50 and im putting in the numbers but their still showing up as invisible D:

[proven spindle]

So something like "Condition": "PLAYER_HAS_CONVERSATION_TOPIC Host questComplete_questnamehere" ?

Awesome thanks! I'll give that a shot and report back

[versed wyvern]

I wonder if we should bug Pathos about this though

[tiny zealot]

what are you doing exactly? you don't need to specify animation frames for the flower dance. it's automatic

[versed wyvern]

Since Quest Framework was believed to be obsoleted with 1.6 Monster quest turn-ins not working correctly seems like a problem

[hot gale]

Is anyone familiar with Advanced Melee Framework?

[tidal stone]

it is?? i was trying to follow the tutorial here
https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Adding_a_Custom_NPC_to_Festivals_template

[proven spindle]

Is there a process for reporting bugs like this to Pathos? Never done it before but I can make a quick writeup on what I found

[versed wyvern]

Flower Dance animations are coded to be specific frames iirc

[tidal stone]

ooooh ok

lemme remove this line of code and see if that fixes it then

[reef kiln]

Look at one of the npc sprite sheets and make sure you flower dance frames are in the same palce.

[lucid iron]

is it a base game bug?

!officialbug if so

[ocean sail]

If you've checked that it's not a mod bug:

• Report gameplay bugs to the Stardew Valley developers here: https://forums.stardewvalley.net/forums/12/ (do a quick search first so you don't report something they're already looking into).
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  Alternatively, you can email [e-mail]

To use this command, type !officialbug.

[tidal stone]

i removed the line of code and their still ivnisible 😭

[reef kiln]

I think the other one that is like that is the marriage sprite, it needs to be in the specific place too, if I remember from the one time I made a sprite sheet.

[tidal stone]

i used a sprite sheet i found in a tutorial on the wiki but maybe its out fo date how big is the sprite sheet for 1.6

[reef kiln]

I doubt it is the .json it sound like the sprite sheet it missing the sprite in the location. Did you decompile the game? Look at one of the vanilla sheets if you did. I am on my tablet and can't check at the moment.

[tidal stone]

i did and then i put everything in the same spot on a fresh sheet

[ornate trellis]

the one on the wiki should still be fine

[proven spindle]

I think it might be a content patcher bug? Not sure where CP ends and the base game begins lol

[tidal stone]

the sheet number the sprites for the dace are on is uhhhh 40-47

[tiny zealot]

double-check that your NPC is set as female?

[tidal stone]

they are

[versed wyvern]

CP should just be adding data for the game to load and use a base game function on here, yes?

[tiny zealot]

males (and, i suspect, unspecified) use higher indexes for their dance

other thing to check is that you have edited the image in the mod folder and not just the one in your work directory

[reef kiln]

On a separate note, very cute. 😀

[tidal stone]

ty :3

im gonna try changing her gender specification and see if the images shwo up and maybe im using the wrong size sprite sheet

[ornate trellis]

if its this one its the right sheet

[tidal stone]

yea its that one

[proven spindle]

I think so? But it's also possible that the game code is already set up correctly and CP is just set up to call the board quest code rather than regular/monster quest code.

[tiny zealot]

tangent, but it's wild to me that the game uses directions in the order up-right-down-left (0,1,2,3) in basically every situation but character spritesheet facings are in a totally different order (down,right,up,left) for mysterious reasons

[tidal stone]

I found an error finally in my smapi

https://smapi.io/log/6b617503dcfd4f5892afd39ff873afdd

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, with 15 C# mods and 26 content packs.

[tidal stone]

it says that my character isnt a interger

[reef kiln]

Looking at that blank sprite sheet makes me want to make an NPC with everything backwards so they moonwalk everywhere. Does that make me strange

[proven spindle]

Do it

[versed wyvern]

Sounds like something that one glitch character mod would do

[proven spindle]

Call them Michael Chicksen

[ornate trellis]

you could post your festival code here so people can maybe look at it?

[tidal stone]

https://smapi.io/json/none/6d6ed67ed40440609be529920da2b18a

[proven spindle]

Could be great for an april fools day mod in a month

[reef kiln]

That's alot of work for an April fools joke. Would be funny though.

[tiny zealot]

your TextOperations with the /animate command is mistargeted. if you want an animation on your character during the player walkaround phase, you need this:

        {
          "Operation": "Append",
          "Target": ["Fields", "set-up", 5],
          "Value": "/animate etc etc"
        },```

[tidal stone]

oh

[hybrid talon]

Does anybody know why the game might be switching out of controller mode on the save select screen (when it's working fine everywhere else) or how to hook into that particular moment of the title screen process to switch it back?
It didn't do this before the most recent update

[hot gale]

Im trying to create a custom projectile for my weapon pack, but I can't figure out how to use CP-A properly and I havent been able to find great documentation on it

Trying to follow the formula of a popular CP-A mod, but I am not sure what to change for "TargetTexture": "Maps/springobjects",

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/e06a7a4dc51442ebb9831071e205625f

CP for the Projectiles;

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/6862d0cb0e654dce99eccce74ca77992

projectiles.png

projectile_One

[tidal stone]

oh thats only durig the wallkaround phase?

[hot gale]

I am loading this in the CP section of my mod as well

{
            "Action": "Load",
            "Target": "bonghits.cp.WeaponPack/Projectiles",
            "FromFile": "assets/projectiles.png"
        },

[tidal stone]

ok so that wouldn't make me dance at the festival then ok

[tiny zealot]

oh. oh, of course, how did i miss that

you have to add your NPC to the main event or they won't be visible for the dance

[tidal stone]

i completely misunderstood what that code was XD

oohhh is that like a patch code i can do?

[tiny zealot]

yeah, go consult the tutorial again at the flower dance section

you need a standing position for spring24's main event additional characters

[reef kiln]

Yay, ichortower how did you miss that. 😇 it is all on you, not anyone else looking at it, just you. 😆 😂

[shadow pagoda]

Bumping this and this related message #making-mods-general message

[tidal stone]

ok i think i fixed it im off to try it 07

SHe dance!

[fierce vault]

Can you make changes to a cp mod while the game and vs code are still open as long as you save the changes while making them?

[proven spindle]

Yep, use patch reload modid

[fierce vault]

So only with a special mod installed then?

[tiny zealot]

yeah, content patcher

[brave fable]

there's nothing really preventing you from accessing private property in the game code, you just need a crowbar.
this.Helper.Reflection.GetField<Dictionary<string, List<List<int>>>>(obj: Game1.getLocationFromName("CommunityCenter"), name: "bundlesIngredientsInfo").GetValue();

[dusk mulch]

what if the cops get called

[fierce vault]

Does it take a command to do so?

[proven spindle]

Patch reload is the command

[tiny zealot]

type patch reload your.mods.unique.id into your SMAPI console and hit enter (put your mod's id in the spot)

[fierce vault]

Oh, ok

Thank you

[shadow pagoda]

I found other scripts (I think this is from the Junimo class getting the CC object like this.

Game1.RequireLocation<CommunityCenter>("CommunityCenter")

Do you know if there are any pros/cons from using either?

[reef kiln]

I did not know this. Here I am reloading my game after every change. Never thought to even ask.

[tiny zealot]

wait till you hear about hot reload for C# mods

[brave fable]

RequireLocation<T?> is a safety net that throws an exception if the location is not found, or is not of the expected type T if provided

you're not required to use it, it just changes how you handle unexpected failure

[pine elbow]

hey guys i had a question, im wanting to add custom food mods but im not sure where to start and i cant really find any tut on them T^T

[brittle pasture]

adding custom food involves two steps:

1. Adding the food item to Data/Objects: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Objects
2. Adding a cooking recipe to Data/CookingRecipes: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Recipe_data

you'd use Content Patcher for both. How familiar are you with modding in general?

[reef kiln]

Are you talking making a food mod, or adding an existing mod to your game?

[pine elbow]

i have only ever made mods for sims

[brittle pasture]

(3. Optional: Adding some way to unlock your recipe if you're not having it available immediately)

[pine elbow]

making a food mod

[brittle pasture]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[reef kiln]

OK, then right place 👆

[brittle pasture]

follow the tutorial for content patcher above

[pine elbow]

okie i will !

[brittle pasture]

a good place to start is downloading an existing food mod and see how they did it

[reef kiln]

After reading the cp tutorial I suggest downloading a mod that does something similar and looking at how they did it. To learn. That's how I learned. We are here to answer specific questions and issues you run into.

[pine elbow]

okieee thank youuu i will def look and see what they did first and go from there

[reef kiln]

Jinx

[rancid musk]

Ah, users...

[lucid iron]

sometimes i wish the broken code in .dll was a higher log level

[reef kiln]

Is that the entire report? That is so helpful.

[rancid musk]

It is!

[dusk mulch]

Well, what are you doing? Go fix the bug! /j

[proven spindle]

This worked great btw, thanks!

[tidal stone]

im trying to talk to my npc after getting engaged to her, do i need to specify post engagement dialogue? i can't seem to talk to her

Also in the string of code for heart events, is it possible to make it where you can't see the others until youve seen the one before it?

[tiny zealot]

there is a precondition for having seen another event first, yes

[tidal stone]

oooh

because i want to try and add more character to this character but if you see the heart events out of order it might be a bit wacky XD

[tiny zealot]

/SawEvent <id>+/

[hard fern]

I do know you can write in engagement dialogue that your NPC will say while you're still engaged, so maybe try that?

[tiny zealot]

so if you have {{ModId}}_2HeartEvent, then in your e.g. 4 heart event you can use /SawEvent {{ModId}}_2HeartEvent as a precondition and it will require having seen the 2 heart one

[tidal stone]

awesome idk what my characters story is yet but this will def help me tell it in a comprehensible manner XD

[hard fern]

Its good if you have a story that needs sequence

[tiny zealot]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Event_data for comprehensive reference on event preconditions and commands, btw

[reef kiln]

If i want to make it so I can add a tapper to the trees from Passerby Cemetery is there a framework I can use?

[lucid iron]

Are they wild trees?

Vanilla let you define tap item so it's not technically required

[reef kiln]

It add non fruit 2 trees, I just want to be able to tap them. Sap is fine as a product.

[lucid iron]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Wild_trees

TapItems

[reef kiln]

Thanks

[dusk mulch]

God if it took me 2 days to get 1 portrait done and I have 13 more to do and more for the other NPC's- wow.

[versed wyvern]

Welcome to drawing

[dusk mulch]

Is it always filled with the sounds of people crying?

[versed wyvern]

You get used to it

[hot gale]

Got some animations in finally :D

Going to use them for weapon effects

[dusk mulch]

awesome!