making-mods-general

[calm nebula]

just a lot of work

[versed wyvern]

Even the testing part is a pain

[vernal crest]

Plenty of it is technically hard if you don't already have those technical skills lol

I have not found any of the drawing easy in any way whatsoever as I slowly grind to build my skill in it

[crude plank]

Is there like a list of what tags vanilla items have somewhere?

[brave fable]

i do the drawing ad infinitum to keep away from ever having to write character data and event scripts

[dry flicker]

little stupid question, SVE referes to stardew valley expanded, right?

[versed lintel]

I'm having an issue where my NPC spawns in but after the farmer sleeps they disappear from the map the following day, they also stand still and don't follow their schedule any help is appreciated!?! https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/a4e0509fce4c44e3a0b0e109a2c35f90

[vernal crest]

Can you link to your schedule json too please? Also you seem to have an NPC disposition include as well as having her disposition in your content.json, is that on purpose? (I'm also not sure you can have an update rate of on location change and on time change).

[versed lintel]

Heres the schedule.json im having so many issues rn bc this NPC worked perfectly pre 1.6 and I'm just now dealing with all the changes and its like learning everything over again: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/c7a7eb125d774a429b947bfbc5fff6ce

[vernal crest]

Also you may already be aware, but the recommended convention for any id (including the NPC internal name) is to prefix them with your mod id so they are unique - often we use the CP token {{ModID}}_ which is converted into the unique id in the manifest.

Hmm, although loading a schedule file directly like that isn't common (because then you can't make use of any CP tokens) I don't see any issues with the schedule itself. You said she spawns on Day one but then disappears the next day, but also that she stands still - how can she be standing still if she's not there?

[versed lintel]

On the first day she stands still and does not follow her schedule but on day two she is gone entirely.

[tiny zealot]

if it's the first day after adding the mod to an existing save, that's normal, or maybe i should say known, behavior. not sure about the disappearing though

[calm nebula]

the disappearing has the feel of the game hardcoding something for "Witch"

granted

I haven't found the "something" yet

does debug wtc Witch find her

[tiny zealot]

yeah i definitely recommend not using the internal name "Witch", like aba described

[vernal crest]

Did you make a new save to test her after writing all this? If you didn't, she wouldn't have moved until day two anyway. For finding her on day two, you can type debug where witch in the SMAPI console to find her or wtc like Atra said to try to warp to her.

[versed lintel]

Im testing it with a new save currently!

[vernal crest]

I can never decide when I'm on my phone and slowly typing something whether to abandon it or push on anyway when someone replies before I do xD

It feels like a waste of all that typing to delete it all.

[versed wyvern]

I think I remember the wiki page about schedule modding mentioning things will break without a "spring" key which is what the game uses as default, could that have something to do with it?

[versed lintel]

I just made a new save and used debug wtc Witch and i got a smapi error saying : Could not find valid character Witch

[tiny zealot]

time to check whether WitchHut has the disable npc pathfinding flag (it does not)

[vernal crest]

If the spring key being mandatory still applies in 1.6 that could do it

[vernal crest]

Then can you please send us a link to your log? Because you're probably getting errors or warnings in your logs about your patches failing

[versed lintel]

stupid question but how do i sen a link to my log?

[vernal crest]

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[vernal crest]

I didn't do the command before because I thought you might already be aware of it due to using the json parser (sometimes people get cross at me if I don't somehow know they are already aware of it lol)

[next quarry]

does anyone know how difficult it is to make interactive events? similar to when the farmer needs to find Haley bracelet at the beach before the event continues ?

[tiny zealot]

i don't think it's that hard, but you might hit weird hardcoded limitations, if memory serves

[versed lintel]

Theres no Smapi crash txt or smapi latest txt The game says there was no output?

[vernal crest]

Koda just made a player control event for one of their mods I think Miihau

[vernal crest]

Have you somehow accidentally disabled logging?

[next quarry]

thanks for the input guys <3

[versed lintel]

I don't believe I did is their some way I could of?

[tall slate]

Hey guys, is there any mod that remove stamina cost? Other than CJB Cheat Menu? Like, i want one that just remove stamina cost

[vernal crest]

I don't know, I just don't know how you could not have a log otherwise and someone did disable it the other day. Although... You said the game says there was no output - what do you mean? Do you just mean it said that after you wrote debug wtc witch?

[vernal crest]

Hey, this is actually a question for #modded-stardew :) this channel is for making mods, not using them

[tall slate]

oh sry

[vernal crest]

Yeah that's normal and happens with most debug commands.

[vernal crest]

Are there any files at all in your logs folder?

[versed lintel]

is this it? https://smapi.io/log/7d9de05310ec4f24bd3c6e0526b134a6

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 11 C# mods and 1 content packs.

[calm nebula]

(it's using the beta of the slightly more dehardcoding thing I put in SMC the other day.)

(note that won't get released until after I get back from China)

[vernal crest]

Oh right I forgot that part sorry!

[calm nebula]

No worries!

It's one of those things I wish vanilla would eat

[vernal crest]

Yes that's it. No errors or warnings about your patches there. Can you put patch summary into the SMAPI console and then grab the log again please? We'll have a look at what the summary says about whether your patches applied.

[lucid iron]

Gather up thy mods and offer them up to Stardew Valley.dll

[calm nebula]

Pathos, plz? (I kid I kid)

[vernal crest]

I don't know in which way the game breaks if you're missing the spring schedule key - don't know if it's silent or not. Given how many schedule failures are silent ones I wouldn't be surprised.

[calm nebula]

Is ginger island unlocked

[vernal crest]

For Luke? No, they're on day one year one. Is that the event the disposition include is gated behind?

[analog viper]

Is there someone who can help me figure out what happened with my config for the spouse room location mod? one of the rooms has been emptied and i can't understand why

[versed lintel]

https://smapi.io/log/3f39a3985c8b466999559216143be049

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 11 C# mods and 1 content packs.

[vernal crest]

If you're not making or editing a mod, the right place for that question is #1272025932932055121 rather than here. If you are actually editing or making a mod rather than just adjusting a config, can you explain what you're trying to do?

[vernal crest]

Thanks. While I look at it, you never replied to say whether having two dispositions patches was on purpose?

[analog viper]

i'm sorry but i saw another question left without replies in almost an year so thought to ask in general chat and they told me to write here lmao

[calm nebula]

No, if their npc decided to go to ginger island I don't think there is a valid route

[versed lintel]

Sorry I missed that one, I dont really know, i originally made this mod prior to 1.6 and it worked fine but once 1.6 update came it broke and i"m just now fixing everything so I don't remember why theres 2

[vernal crest]

I see. Well, it doesn't look like it has applied. Just to check what Atra's saying, have you cheated so ginger island is unlocked and the resort is open?

[vernal crest]

There definitely are not any questions without replies for nearly a year in modded tech support - we haven't even had the tech support forum for that long! So I'm not sure where you were looking.

[analog viper]

it's just that i saw it dated 2024 without checking month, excuse me again

[vernal crest]

I can't find any open posts from 2024 without answers (there are only two open posts from 2024 at all) so I'm not sure what you're seeing, sorry, but the only place that we offer tech support for mod use is #1272025932932055121 and you should be able to see that we do answer many posts very frequently.

[versed lintel]

I just cheated the resort open

[vernal crest]

Just then? Or before the witch disappeared?

[versed lintel]

she disappeared before the resort opened

[vernal crest]

Before it opened for the day or before it was repaired? Sorry to be pedantic but it matters.

[versed lintel]

Before it opened

shes not even in the social tab where she normally is

[hard fern]

disappearing npc...

[lucid iron]

What do u get if u do debug where npc

[vernal crest]

She didn't exist doing wtc so I don't think she exists for some reason.

[versed lintel]

I get the error no NPC matching Witch

[vernal crest]

Can you please do patch export data/characters and then go find the file it exports and search for her in there

[calm nebula]

Yeah, I think something is causing her to vanish

Either hardcoded removal or smrh

[vernal crest]

Is witch an existing NPC in the game btw?

[versed lintel]

She does appear in the json

[vernal crest]

Is her internal name "Witch" in the json?

[versed lintel]

yes

[vernal crest]

Ok can you try making another new save but don't do any sort of cheating to unlock anything and instead just do debug wtc Witch as soon as you start in the farmhouse?

[lucid iron]

Did you try making her named something else

{{ModId}}_Witch

[versed lintel]

it says could not find valid character

[vernal crest]

Okay then you will definitely have to try renaming her

[versed lintel]

She appears now YAY but she still does not follow her schedule I also wanted to know if her appearing the game was possible after the farmer saw "HasSeenEvent": 418172 which is the event where the wizard gives you the book for the ink quest.

[tribal ore]

Double checking something for dialogue: the wiki says that both the following keys are valid
location<hearts> and location_<x>_<y>

But will location<hearts>_<x>_<y> work? (e.g. Beach4_12_39)

[late bramble]

I think the not following the schedule thing is normal for the first day when adding custom npcs, I fixed mine by going to sleep and they were all fine the next day

[dry flicker]

Ciao, i just discovered that to load files like portrats it's better to use the modID, so I changed it: (before I would write the npc name only, without the {{}})

 "DynamicTokens": [
        {
            "Name": "Akaza",
            "Value": "kArmag0re_Akaza"
        }
    ],
//text in between
{
            "LogName": "NPC Portrait",
            "Action": "Load",
            "Target": "Portraits/{{Akaza}}",
            "FromFile": "assets/img/Portraits.png"
},```
The problem is: In old saves in which the NPC existed before I updated the script, it doesn't work and gives the following problem: 

```txt
[game] NPC Akaza can't load portraits from 'Portraits/Akaza': Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Content.ContentLoadException: The content file was not found.
....
[game] Removed broken NPC 'Akaza' in Mine: villager with no data or sprites.```
Is there anyway to adapt the change in the old saves too?

[tribal ore]

{{ModId} is a special token. For somethign like this, you would use {{ModId}}_Akaza

[dry flicker]

mhmh, tho how could I fix the old saves? It just removes the NPC and puts Akaza as a new NPC that got never met yet

[tribal ore]

CP has a function to fix old saves via a trigger action called MigrateIds, but I don't have a good example

[proud wyvern]

it looks to me like you've changed the whole ID of the NPC, not just the portrait. that's not fixable

[dry flicker]

[tribal ore]

I haven't done any portrait modding, specifically, so I tend to look at examples for something like this:

From HatMouseLacey mod:
{ "Id": "Beach", "Sprite": "Characters/{{Lacey}}_Beach", "Portrait": "Portraits/{{Lacey}}_Beach", "IsIslandAttire": true, "Precedence": 0 },

   {
     "Name": "Lacey",
     "Value": "{{ModId}}_Lacey"
   },```

So, ichor is setting up the dynamic token Lacey to include the ModId token in it. So everywhere they use {{Lacey}} it is actually being rendered as {{ModId}}_Lacey. If this was my mod, it would render out to something like "Kantrip.OlderSebastian_Lacey"

[tiny zealot]

i think FormerCharacterNames in the NPC data allows migration to a new name like this https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:NPC_data#Advanced

[tribal ore]

ichor, thank you for saving me xD I'm trying to help but don't know exactly how all of this works

[tiny zealot]

interestingly, although i changed lacey's internal name for 1.6, i don't use that property, because i wrote a bunch of my own code to handle it instead. (i think i wrote that code before pathos introduced FormerCharacterNames, but my memory is a bit fuzzy on that)

[tribal ore]

I'm trying to find examples of MigrateIds at the moment, because I'm planning on cleaning up event names before I ship

But it looks like it needs fully qualified json names for things. The documentation example wasn't enough for me to get it working

[tiny zealot]

that one is a trigger action, i think? i have not used that either, for similar reasons

[tribal ore]

bingo. trigger action

[dry flicker]

IT WORKS IT WORKS THANK YOU, THANK YOU BOTH @tribal ore @tiny zealot

[tribal ore]

One bump, in case anyone who does dialogues can answer this question for me

I do read the wiki, but some things feel ambiguous to me

[tiny zealot]

those two are checked separately and in sequence within the same block (location dialogue), so you can't combine them like that

[tribal ore]

sigh alright. Thanks, ichor!

[vernal crest]

Add a spring schedule to see if that fixes the issue with her not following her schedule (and remember to sleep). As for not unlocking her until the player has seen the event, use the UnlockConditions field in her disposition https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:NPC_data#Spawn_rules

[real atlas]

i need help i made a content patcher mod to change the texture of a wallpaper. I put everything correctly and there are no error codes in the smapi console but the texture still doesnt change

[vernal crest]

!json can you share your json for it please?

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[real atlas]

{
"Format": "2.5.0",
"Changes": [
{
"Action": "EditImage",
"Target": "Maps/wallpapers_2.png",
"FromFile": "assets/wallpapers_2.png"
}
]
}

[vernal crest]

You cannot have file extensions in targets. Remove the .png (but don't remove it from the FromFile field! Leave that one exactly as it is)

[real atlas]

it works now thanks

[hot gale]

You can also have smapi validate your file inside vscode

!vscjsonc

[ocean sail]

How to make VSCode not scream at json comments

In Visual Studio Code, go to File -> Preferences -> Settings, then search for "associations", and in the "Associations" setting, click the Add Item button to add an item with key *.json and value jsonc (see image).
If you are making a content pack for Content Patcher, you should consider using its json schema so that VSCode can tell you if your patches are valid, you simply have to add

"$schema": "https://smapi.io/schemas/content-patcher.json"

at the start of your content.json file.

To use this command, type !vscjsonc.

[dry flicker]

Another problem
It doesn't let me put the NPC custom spouse room.

When I use the command debug engaged Akaza and I put the farmer to sleep, so there's the wedding the day after, this error appears:

Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Content.ContentLoadException: The content file was not found.
 ---> FileNotFoundException: Could not find file 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Stardew Valley\Content\Maps\kArmag0re_Akaza_SpouseRoom.xnb'.
File name: 'C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Stardew Valley\Content\Maps\kArmag0re_Akaza_SpouseRoom.xnb'
   at Microsoft.Win32.SafeHandles.SafeFileHandle.CreateFile(String fullPath, FileMode mode, FileAccess access, FileShare share, FileOptions options)```

{{Akaza}} = kArmag0re_Akaza

Disposition:
```json
"SpouseRoom": {
  "MapAsset": "{{Akaza}}_SpouseRoom"
},

Content:

{
  "LogName": "Akaza spouse room",
  "Action": "Load",
  "Target": "Maps/{{Akaza}}_SpouseRoom",
  "FromFile": "maps/SpouseRoom.tmx"
},```

[tribal ore]

"maps" should be capitalized I believe: "Maps/{{Akaza}}_SpouseRoom"

In Target

[brittle pasture]

(had that thought too but I recalled asset names are case insensitive)

[tribal ore]

Really? my bad

[brittle pasture]

(I could be wrong though, so no prob)

[dry flicker]

same error, even tho I put the M in Maps

[brittle pasture]

can you post your full smapi log?

[dry flicker]

that would be a problem to post...

it's infinite and keeps on repeating

it goes on and on and on and on

[lusty elm]

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[lucid iron]

It is probably issue with your tmx causing content patcher to refuse loading

But yes post log so we can determine why

[dry flicker]

this?

[ocean sail]

Log found, uploaded to: https://smapi.io/log/78df06144c9548e1b24852a7ed8a1ed5

[brittle pasture]

yep its a problem with your tmx

[dry flicker]

i modified the room wrong or something? how could I fix this

[hot gale]

Anyone familiar with Machine progression System? I added support for my meads in their kegs, but the time to brew is the same across all tiers

[lucid iron]

You need to match whatever time nach put i think

[brittle pasture]

there's a thread here: https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1325929260246106202

[hot gale]

Oh cool, thanks

[brittle pasture]

I'm not that familiar with maps, but it seems like you have saved your map while it is missing tilesheets

[tribal ore]

When modding maps, it's a good idea to follow the instructions here exactly (under Map Edits). Saves you from bad paths and missing tilesheets
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps

[tiny zealot]

having a Fun™️ time with content patcher invalidating Data/AudioChanges. the cues reload and restart (irritating) and their volume gets reset to 1 (very bad). nothing i've tried has worked around it

[uncut viper]

that section doesn't actually say how to avoid this error. the Troubleshooting section does though

that sounds about the kind of annoyance I'd expect when doing anything audio related in this game

[tiny zealot]

often i would say "very few people will experience this, this is a livable wart" but for the thing i'm making, patch reloading any mod using it while on one of the targeted maps WILL set the cue to full blast volume which is extremely rude

[uncut viper]

i don't know how to solve the restarting part, but for the volume I'd just try caching the volume of the cue when it's invalidated and reapplying it when it restarts before it gets to play again I guess

[tiny zealot]

i don't know if restarting can be solved, but that one is not critical. i've tried a bunch of permutations of reapplying the desired volume

[uncut viper]

time to patch InvalidateAsset to do nothing for Data/AudioChanges /j

[lucid iron]

Im surprised it even works

[hot gale]

What is the smapi code to export objects?

[brittle pasture]

patch export Data/Objects

[hot gale]

Thanks!

Drinking vanilla 'Mead' in-game gets your character 'drunk', if I wanted to add this to my custom mead, would I c/p this entire block?

'tipsy'** :p

[tender bloom]

That sounds right to me — try it and see!

[hot gale]

:D

[tender bloom]

Make sure it nests the right amount within the item

[uncut viper]

tbh you probably dont even need anything other than the Id and BuffId

[tender bloom]

before 1.6 there was a wild mechanism where if your thing contained "Wine" as a substring of the internal name it would get you drunk iirc

[hot gale]

Thanks guys!

[gentle rose]

god I love pre-1.6 code

[hot gale]

Oooh it makes it its own contained icon

[calm nebula]

Ask @lucid mulch about his data/audio changes optimization

He has thoughts

[hot gale]

lmao is this "Tipsy"

[tiny zealot]

ok i got something working by doing some wacky shit. it might involve something like how many frames it takes before a cue will accept volume changes (only after telling it to play, of course, like with pitch). why did i sign up to do audio code, i should have known better than this

[hot gale]

Any way I can export the buffs to see what ID 17 is? lol

[tawny ore]

Have you unpacked the game data already? It's in Data/Buffs

[hot gale]

Not in entirety, whats the command to do all at once?

[tawny ore]

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[hot gale]

Thanks

Can I load default textures from a CP json like this;

or will that look for it in my mod folder

Looks like it loaded the default texture, cool

lmfao

I put SpaceCore/HealthRegneration on a custom buff

Changed the value from -2 to 2 thinking it would give +2

Nope, -2

Character slowly died, woke up in the hospital, kept dying cause he still had the buff. So I changed the mead to remove the regen, reloaded patch, spawned a new one and drank it, status of health regen went away, kept losing health - died again. Im like okay, I go into smapi and go debug clearbuffs the buff is now gone, then my character dies again, wakes up in hospital health still dropping

I doomed him 🤣

[final arch]

time to release the mod

[calm nebula]

Oh, new sheku mod????

[final arch]

no I meant King Kai's 😄

[calm nebula]

Oh, I can't wait to see the new cool sheku mod

[brittle ledge]

Time to release Tame Slimes

[lusty elm]

I misread that as Tall Slimes

[royal stump]

[lusty elm]

Goomba stacking slimes

[lucid iron]

100/10

Is this just a thing vanilla can do provided the right args to slime stacc

[royal stump]

yep, they appear during qi quests afaik, but FTM also supports that with the "Segments" setting*

[lusty elm]

My brain goes, if you kill the bottom one the stack falls over, and they all hit the ground like a falling tree, but since the ones at the top are falling further, the further from the base they are the bigger the boom they should make hitting the ground, like bombs.

if FTM has a stack setting, but can also reskin monsters, does that mean i can make an aggressive chicken stack?

[royal stump]

( I think GreenSlime.stackedSlimes is all you need to edit C#-wise? been a while)

[tawny ore]

Does anyone know what am I getting myself into? I'm trying to make a rotatable piece of StorageFurniture which occupies 2x1 tiles, and is 3 tiles tall.

[royal stump]

probably, though I don't remember how slimes' colors interact with reskins you could probably just set "Color": "255 255 255" though

[lusty elm]

interesting

[royal stump]

also stacked slimes react to damage by shooting one of them off in the opposite direction, until you finally bop them down to a single slime

[lusty elm]

the bottom slime i assume? or can you even really tell?

[royal stump]

it just lowers the height and shoots out a projectile, so basically

it's all one single entity that doesn't take damage until it runs out of stacks

[lusty elm]

so it doesnt make more slimes it just pings one out until there is 1, and then its that mob's settings? interesting.

[distant radish]

Hello guys! One question. Is it possible to make a flavored item a required item? It is to say: could I, for example, require Coconut Wine to make something with the Keg?

[royal stump]

(testing it again, they do take damage, I just didn't notice because I usually test with the scythe)

[brittle pasture]

Yes, you can get the flavor of an item via a context tag

something something preserve_index

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Context_tags preserve_sheet_index_<id>

[distant radish]

What if the item hasn’t been created by the Keg or Preserves Jar, as the Wiki says? For instance, a Ruby Metal Bar with the Furnace

(That’s the item I’m thinking about introducing, Gem Metal Bars)

[brittle pasture]

ah the description is incorrect

if it's flavored, it's automatically set

(someone on a pc pls fix)

[distant radish]

So for the machine to only accept a Ruby Metal Bar I would have to set two tags like metal_bar_item + preserve_sheet_index_64

[brittle pasture]

I recommend using the item ID instead of metal_bar_item but that looks good

unless you want it for every item tagged like that?

[distant radish]

I would, but then I would have to create a specific bar for every modded gem and/or mineral

I want to use these Metal Bars to create Rings

I’m thinking of Smelting them instead of crafting

So I am just creating a Metal Bar that can be flavored with any gem (and/or mineral)

[lusty elm]

.choose 1,3,4,5,6.

[patent lance]

Choose result: 4

[lusty elm]

.choose yes, no.

[patent lance]

Choose result: no.

[lusty elm]

got it

[hot gale]

https://i.imgur.com/JwDu5xB.png

Pretty cool I can consolidate the buffs into one icon

[proud wren]

Where would I find the exact filename of the desert trader

I'm making a small CP mod to revert the 1.4.1 MRC nerf

[brittle pasture]

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[brittle pasture]

if you're editing the shops look in Data/Shops

[proud wren]

Thank you my friend

[hot gale]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/31786

1.4 update done :D

[eternal mortar]

hi! does anyone know how to fix this with the front layer when making maps? Im not sure why im clipping through each front tile nor how to fix it.

sorry if this is like a stupid simple question lol (please ping me if you know though, ty!)

[hallow prism]

try using always front

[lucid comet]

does anyone know where the background color for calico spin comes from without searching too deep? i know the buttons and the wheel spinny thing are in cursors but i cant see the red background :x

[rigid oriole]

i wanna say i saw a discussion about it being hardcoded a while ago?

[lucid comet]

darn

[rigid oriole]

could try backsearching in this chat

[eternal mortar]

alright ill try that ty

[proud wren]

Okay, wow, it actually worked

[lucid comet]

yeah, i'll check that, ty

[ocean sail]

@lucid comet You leveled up to Cowpoke. You can now speak in our voice channels and share images in all channels!

[proud wren]

It might be small and crappy but I made my first mod!

[lucid comet]

congratz!

[final arch]

mhh one day :p

[naive wyvern]

a little late but can confirm, the bg for that is hardcoded

[lucid comet]

definitely not late

now i just have to debate if this is worth dusting off my programming skills or not

[naive wyvern]

it could be c:
we need more people tinkering with the minigames

[lucid comet]

mmmmmmmh

i could've sworn i've seen a "bet 1k" mod at some point but can't seem to find that so tinkering sounds very tempting

[naive wyvern]

😈

i mean, how hard could it possibly no?
its just untangling a few code lines here and there and then adding ur own 😈

<--demon on ur shoulder

[lucid comet]

xD

[naive wyvern]

(warning i have 0 idea how the casino minigames work, I just know a lot of it is hardcoded)

the blackjack minigame cards are hardcoded with numbers and 9-splice textures for the back of the card and face of the card for example

[lucid comet]

i mean, looking at it won't hurt more than my sanity, so that's fine

[dry flicker]

a dialogue like this would work?
"fall_159":
fall, day 15 on 9 hearts

[final arch]

only the keys in the wiki work

you could do fall_15 and then patch it in with a When: condition that checks for >= 9 hearts

[tidal stone]

do i need to upload my mod to nexus before it'l work? im trying to test and see if im doing the .json files right and everything and see if it looks good before i upload but do i have to do that first :0

[calm nebula]

I'll just give you the code for it

[lucid mulch]

Note if you do anything that causes audiochanges to invalidate mid day you are giving people with audio mods like a 20 second lag spike (without my experimental performance mod)

[calm nebula]

https://github.com/atravita-mods/StardewMods/blob/alpha/StopRugRemoval/StopRugRemoval/HarmonyPatches/Niceties/SlotMenuPatches.cs

(Hi. It was mine. I'm retired now.)

[lucid comet]

uuuuuh, ty

i'm just glad i wasn't imagining things ^^

[final arch]

the infamous stopRugRemoval mod

[calm nebula]

You may also have the localized bet icons

[lucid mulch]

Oh wait without stopRugRemoval I won't have the explosion ring safety anymore

[calm nebula]

Retired

[lucid mulch]

Guess I'm still not playing 1.6

[calm nebula]

Hard retired

[final arch]

look what you did atra :c

whats an explosion ring?

[lucid mulch]

The ring that does explosion when killing enemies

Which can happen in the farm with night monsters turned on

[lucid comet]

(i'm just imaginging you sitting in the modding guild like gil, knitting and throwing helpful advice at the new people from time to time )

[lucid mulch]

Napalm ring

[final arch]

I hope atra has a rocking chair

[lucid iron]

Mod that turns gil into a non specific orange cat definitely not based on anyone in particular

[lucid mulch]

To be fair sunberry village started it

[orchid glade]

No you do not need to upload to nexus first. Test it by putting it in your mod folder etc

[tidal stone]

ok thank you! that means its something i didnt do right in the json then 😄

[naive wyvern]

usually when your mod doesnt work its either

1. you dont have a manifest.json
2. you typo'ed something in your manifest.json
3. if youre certain your manifest.json is correct, then SMAPI should tell you what error is causing SMAPI to skip over it

[tidal stone]

i think the format was messed up cause it just started working after i reput it in :0

[naive wyvern]

ooh
well I hope it stops giving you problems

[final arch]

wait what did they do x)

ah not come out so you dont play

[distant glen]

hello i have played stardew 2 years ago and im looking new mods any you all can reccomend me (so sorry if this isnt the right place)

[dusk mulch]

This would be better in #modded-stardew

[distant glen]

thank you ! i just remeber talking here for it

[dusk mulch]

just got a new mod idea, thats 3 mod ideas in my list now

[proud wren]

Do you think anyone would want a mod that makes the Magic Rock Candy trade from the Desert Trader infinite instead of once per week, like it was in 1.4 before the nerf

Or should I not bother uploading to Nexus

[naive wyvern]

i think you should make mods you want for yourself

[dusk mulch]

Even if a mod is a small change, it can make a big impact. Do what you want.

[naive wyvern]

and post because you want to

theres bound to be someone out there who'll like the thing you like

[proud wren]

I’d kind of like to post it because there’s no mod on there that does it, I’ve spent hours looking

[lusty elm]

Being real I upload my mods just incase someone likes them and wants to use them, even if its only 5 ppl, and i make em more because i want to, and if I've made it and use it, and say 25 ppl do, thats more people than i can fit in my room.

[naive wyvern]

then definitely go for it R3
But if you want visibility, youll wanna make a nice mod page for it, and an easy to remember name

because Nexus search bar is kinda ass

[dusk mulch]

Even if there was...

!twocakes

[ocean sail]

If you discover that someone has made or is making a mod with a similar concept to yours, don't stress! Our community promotes the idea of "two cakes", where two versions of the same idea can peacefully co-exist. Your mod will have your own unique stamp on it that makes it special.

To use this command, type !twocakes.

[hard fern]

I like posting my properly made mods because i feel like they're just taking up space in my mod folder if im the only one using it 😅 so if someone else can get use out of it, then good for them

Im thinking of updating one of my old mods too, and give it a new direction, but im still in the brainstorming process...

[naive wyvern]

which mod are you trynna brainstorm for forsy

[hard fern]

An old mod i made years ago that added little terrarium jars, for decoration.

[naive wyvern]

oh thats adorable

[hard fern]

I kinda felt unsatisfied with it before, because i felt like I could've done more, but the question now is what exactly to do do expand upon it... 😅

[lusty elm]

hmmm, i have a 5 outdated mods it looks like

[naive wyvern]

my first thought was machine furniture (shoutout selph)
but idk what you could possibly make a terrarium produce... uihfdysga

[lusty elm]

thats the downside of throwing everything out into the wild, is supporting it once things happen like 1.6

[hard fern]

They weren't even furniture LOL they were objects that you could place

[naive wyvern]

[hard fern]

On things like tables

[naive wyvern]

but thats cute though
What if you have that AND standalone furniture

like the really big terrarium

[hard fern]

🤔 big terrarium?

[lusty elm]

non-lethal weapons, Monster Crops, Dirt to Grass, Bomb Flowers, and Giga Farm XD. All outdated and broken atm

[naive wyvern]

yeah, the really mega big terrariums that look like they could be vases

[latent mauve]

Frog eggs would be a reasonable output for terrariums

[naive wyvern]

thats true

[lusty elm]

Hat mouse displays might be as well, but noone comments on it shrug

[lucid comet]

or lizard eggs

[hard fern]

...can you use trinkets in crafting recipes?

[naive wyvern]

oooh thats a good question

[dusk mulch]

i just put my first mod into the rewards program on nexus (all donations go to the Make-A-Wish foundation)

[hard fern]

If so then i could easily make a frog terrarium. But idk how well that would work in a 16x16 sprite..

[hot gale]

Is it possible to stack "flavor" adoption? For example if I want to use a flavored honey to make a "Poppy" Honey Mead, can I then age it with fruit and have it become "Grape Poppy Mead"?

[lusty elm]

Also can someone tell me its a bad idea to make an expansion mod so i can stop the scope creep happening in my brain?

[hard fern]

Its a bad idea to make an expansion mod :D

I say that even though ive already started work on my own

[calm nebula]

The answer is yes, technically

With sufficient c#

[hot gale]

Ah, so not possible with smapi?

Er content patcher json stuff rather

[latent mauve]

SMAPI mods are C#, it's not possible with Content Patcher, probably.

Unless someone made a framework

[naive wyvern]

selph's mod https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/31678 lets you do machines bigger than 16x32 c:

so you could totally make a bigger terrarium

and have it produce frog eggs

[hard fern]

Hm could i technically just steal Sebastian's terrarium...

Well, I'll have to think about it more

This is going on the wip pile haha

[naive wyvern]

fireredlily already made a bunch of laundry machines recently

[latent mauve]

(Sebastian's terrarium needs to produce obtainable frog eggs, so I support this)

[naive wyvern]

(im definitely dissecting her mod to make my custom machines for my expansion lmao)

[latent mauve]

You can give him frog eggs and he'll hatch them in the terrarium, so why not have some be collectable? 😛

[hard fern]

...ah yes top 10 things found in notepad, Day/Night tiles because it was easier than doing it in tiled

[naive wyvern]

really, i find tiled a little easier for day/night tiles 😭

am I insane

[brittle pasture]

Extra Machine Configs supports multiple flavors

[latent mauve]

Just gotta be careful not to get unintentional newline characters in there if you space them for readability at any point

[lusty elm]

If you can do it in tiled, I prefer to do it in tiled

[naive wyvern]

war flashbacks to my small typo from months ago lily

[hard fern]

Yeah, I deleted all of the extra spaces and stuff

[latent mauve]

Always, Pau xD

[brittle pasture]

the documentation for that is admittedly arcane so let me know if you have questions

[latent mauve]

First thing I look for in broken TMX files now

[hot gale]

Sweet. I want to come up with a 'vanilla' way of using my mod that isn't dependant on SVE so I am gonna use the vanilla honey and it's flavors as a base then 'age' them with fruit

Will allow for a huge range of mead possibilities I think

[hot gale]

For sure, thanks!

[dusk mulch]

How were these 2 mods uploaded at exactly the same time?

[teal bridge]

Well they were both by the same author so - and I know I'm going out on a limb here - maybe he chose to upload them both at the same time?

[dusk mulch]

It would be very difficult to do so because of internet speeds, lag, nexus server conditions, and other variables.

[brittle pasture]

eh, a minute is basically eternity

[teal bridge]

Yeah, the upload date is actually the publish date so all he had to do was hit the publish button on both mods.

Really not even remotely hard or surprising, even back in 2016 browsers had tabs.

[dusk mulch]

oh

[dry flicker]

Ciao, Little question. Let's say there's an heart event which can make the player go down one heart in case of a bad answer. Is it possible to make the event replayable once he regains the losen heart? is this already implemented or do i need to code something to make this happen?

[ornate trellis]

just use debug ebi <eventID> in the console to redo an event

[lucid iron]

It's for the player right, need to unmark the event

[dry flicker]

is it automatic by the game itself, or do I need to write some code to unmark it?

[lucid iron]

But narratively it'd make more sense to have a separate reconcile event i feel

[ornate trellis]

oh i misread the question lol

[lucid iron]

Lock reconcile event behind a mailflag only behind the bad option

[ornate trellis]

thought it was for testing to try out both branches

[tawny ore]

In all likelihood, these were created at different times. Otherwise, they would have sequential ids (1 and 2 instead of 1 and 3).

[lucid iron]

There's a debug for unseeing event but idk if there's trigger

MarkEventSeen

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Trigger_actions

So if you do a dayending trigger to fire this action once player had seen event once and didn't pick the good branch u can unsee it so that it can fire again

[dry flicker]

perfect

thanks

[brave fable]

it's difficult in that it's currently not possible without C# + harmony, since the game uses very specific methods of ending and continuing after a playerControl <id> command. here's how i end a custom player control sequence in my halloween2024 mod:
https://github.com/b-b-blueberry/Halloween2024/blob/master/Halloween2024/ModEntry.cs#L667-L695
the sequence is set in the event data here:
https://github.com/b-b-blueberry/Halloween2024/blob/master/ContentPack/content.json#L75-L78
you can do some cheeky tricks like forking events manually in C# here, which is why i have __instance.CurrentCommand += (int)ending; to skip the following event commands up until i reach the switchEvent command i need

[next quarry]

Thank you for the resources, information and advice!

[brave fable]

just fyi i've had success with using just this:

"Buffs": [
  {
    "Id": "Tipsy",
    "BuffId": "17"
  }
]

the game fills in all the buff attributes based on the id+buffid, so you don't need to copy them over unless you're changing them

i'm also well aware that halloween2024 is an absolutely ridiculous and arcane mess of c# tas constructors and cp tokens, but there's useful information in there somewhere ☀️

[calm nebula]

https://github.com/atravita-mods/StardewMods/blob/e83ec70f0619adf13be0deae04ca1258836067fa/SlightlyMoreDehardcoding/EventCommands/PlayerControl.cs#L13

I've got an attempt at dehardcoding it

[next quarry]

Thanks

[calm nebula]

(No docs yet. It's in limited testing in SMC. I can extend you an invite to the server. The earliest this will see published is after I get back from China.)

[lucid iron]

I play avg of 3 in game days a week at this rate I'll reach y2 in 2026

Jokes aside i think my play and mod is 2 ends of hyperfixation and i have bee stuck in mod phase for past 6 months

[calm nebula]

(I haven't played the game since early 2024)

[hot gale]

That worked, but I ended up just making my own custom buff for it :D

[rose cliff]

Hi all. I just opened a .tbin file to edit a map. I thought it would be relatively straightforward, but what i have is a web of red lines that i can;t make sense of.

[lucid iron]

[[modding:maps]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps

[lucid iron]

Your map is from a mod right (gonna assume sve lol)

To see it properly, you nee all tilesheets setup

[brave fable]

it sounds to me like you're editing the map outside of the folder with all its tilesheet image files

[lucid iron]

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[brave fable]

if the map has no custom tilesheets, you might want to edit it in your Content (unpacked)/Maps folder

[calm nebula]

Hi bluebs!!!!!

[brave fable]

if it has, then drop those in there as well

[calm nebula]

Long time no see

[lucid iron]

I recommend doing this and peeking at the vanilla maps first

[brave fable]

wdym i'm here every day

[lucid iron]

To get idea of how everything works

Bluebs what have you scope creeped recently?

[rose cliff]

Good idea.

[ocean sail]

@rose cliff You leveled up to Cowpoke. You can now speak in our voice channels and share images in all channels!

[dusk mulch]

🐮 👈

[brave fable]

hmm i've mostly just been fixing love of cooking lately

[lucid iron]

The scope is safe

[brave fable]

since it's in a good spot atm i'll probably look at doublechecking my other mods and pushing their 1.6 updates

[rose cliff]

i've accidentally trapped Gunther in his rooms by trying to combine Make Gunther Real and SVE. I thought editing the SVE version of the museum map would fix it.

[lucid iron]

I think uninstalling one of the two mods should fix him

Could take a day or two in game

[rose cliff]

Now I"m trying to remember whjy I thought I needed SVE for this save.

[calm nebula]

Sorry, I'm just amused but yeah you can probably edit one or the other map to fix it lol

[rose cliff]

WIll taking it out cause problems other than needing to delete some error fish?

I'm only on spring 4 at this point.

[lucid iron]

if its 4 then i'd just restart lol

[shadow pagoda]

!reload is this an extension I need to get, or is it already built in with vs 2022?

[ocean sail]

How do I reload my changes while I'm still in game?

-You cannot reload tokens, that's a forced restart unfortunately
-If you've done any CHANGES, then type into SMAPI:
patch reload YourMod.UniqueID
-If you've done i18n DEFAULT.jSON changes, then type into SMAPI:
reload_i18n then
patch reload YourMod.UniqueID
-C# Visual Studio has a feature called Hot Reload
-C# Rider also has Hot Reload
-Generally working in C# it will be called "Hot Reload" (usage may vary)

To use this command, type !reload.

[lucid iron]

taking out SVE has some implications with maps (need to reset terrain feature all the bush)

hot reload is a C# feature

no extra things needed besides "don't be on linux"

[brave fable]

hot reload is enabled by default these days, just click the 🔥 icon in VS while debugging your project

it has limitations of course, so it's not always applicable, but it saves hours and hours of your life

[hot gale]

[Content Patcher] Can't apply data patch "(CP) Expanded Artisanal Goods > EditData Data/Machines #2 > entry #1" to Data/Machines: failed converting entry to the expected type 'StardewValley.GameData.Machines.MachineOutputRule': Error converting value "honey_item" to type 'System.Collections.Generic.List`1[System.String]'. Path 'Triggers[0].RequiredTags'..

Hmm not sure what I did wrong here, anyone have any insight?

[calm nebula]

I don't backread so if you aren't around at the exact times I am I won't see you lol

[hot gale]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/66a5edbc88b74546bec40a484ea2c888

[calm nebula]

["honey_item"]

[brave fable]

you mustn't have been in china for long then, you're only a few hours off AEDST

[calm nebula]

I'm not in China

Won't be for a few weeks

[brave fable]

i've been deceived.

[calm nebula]

Lol

[uncut viper]

you've only been deceived if its from the deception region of france. otherwise its just sparkling lies

[hot gale]

Hmmm why would ["category_fruits"] work and not [honey_item] both are context tages arent they

[uncut viper]

well, the second one you've not made into a string

[lucid iron]

"RequiredTags": "honey_item",

u have these

need "RequiredTags": ["honey_item"],

[hot gale]

ohhh derp I did the first one and not the rest :p

That is how I have it, but only for one machine rofl

[calm nebula]

It's deception because I tend to check in between sets in my early morning workout

[hot gale]

Trying to export data for the bee house, cant seem to find it in machines.json or objects.json, tried extracting Data/BigMachines to no avail

[latent mauve]

Did you check BigCraftables?

[hot gale]

Ahh ty

[calm nebula]

It's in machines

[brittle pasture]

Data/BigCraftables contains the actual object

[calm nebula]

Look again

[brittle pasture]

Data/Machines is the machine rules

[calm nebula]

It's very c# iirc

Or is it?

No idea

[uncut viper]

its not very C#

[latent mauve]

I had to cross reference BigCraftables with Machines to get the ID for the Recycler when I did my laundry mod

It is likely the same case here

[hot gale]

ah in machines BC10

ty!

[patent lance]

New quote added by wopr1234 as #6324 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1344102115747827712)

[tiny zealot]

thanks for the heads up! i'm definitely not invalidating it myself.
for the thing i'm working on, i wanted to see how it behaves when users patch reload a mod doing what i would consider a standard use case (i.e. including a patch to Data/AudioChanges) and was getting some unfortunate behavior. i have gotten things into an acceptable state for now

[lucid mulch]

what my mod does is if the AudioCueModification or whatever the datatype was called is seemingly identical to my cached previous version of it, I just dont let it get applied a second time

as pretty much all audio changes get applied during the original gamelaunched lag spike, but then happen again during the save load process for whatever reason causing double the time

as the actual asset pipeline time of AudioChanges is pretty much free, its the asset propagation of it and applying that takes forever

[tiny zealot]

nod nod

[lucid mulch]

if you just want to see if this does what you needed anyway

[tiny zealot]

thanks!

[hot gale]

Trying to truncate my mod so it isnt one giant json, would this be right?

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/94b0046c4b5d4c1d870b58af420c6048

Thanks :D

[lucid iron]

if you are adding similar machine rules, consider local tokens

[hot gale]

Was going to make a separate mod for non-SVE users, but I think Im going to question my sanity and make it a config toggle which is not something im familair with at all rofl

[hot gale]

Someone mentioned that before, Im not really sure where to get started with it

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/tokens.md#local-tokens

[hot gale]

Thanks!

[tidal stone]

figured out the json files! now i just gotta practice drawing

[tiny zealot]

i just found an incredible code line in the decompile that is sparking joy
List<NPC> sportsBoys = new List<NPC>();

[hard fern]

Sports boys

[hot gale]

[Content Patcher] Error loading patch '(CP) Expanded Artisanal Goods > Include Data/machines.json': file contains fields which aren't allowed for a secondary file (Format)..
[Content Patcher] Error loading patch '(CP) Expanded Artisanal Goods > Include Data/buffs.json': file contains fields which aren't allowed for a secondary file (Format)..
[Content Patcher] Error loading patch '(CP) Expanded Artisanal Goods > Include Data/mead.json': file contains fields which aren't allowed for a secondary file (Format)..
[Content Patcher] Error loading patch '(CP) Expanded Artisanal Goods > Include Data/operations.json': file contains fields which aren't allowed for a secondary file (Format)..

lol hmm what did I do here

[uncut viper]

your included file contains the Format field. that isnt allowed

only in content.json

[hot gale]

Ohhhh. :p lmao thank you

[faint ingot]

If I add a conversation topic through Data\TriggerActions does it apply to all players?

[uncut viper]

no

not unless the trigger happens for all of them

[reef kiln]

How hard would it be to make it so the music does not stop at 8pm every night, or on rainy days? Is that a c# mod? Or can CP do it?

[faint ingot]

OK, so I guess I could instead send a mail flag to all players that creates the conversation topic? Is there a better way to do it?

[uncut viper]

rain is pretty hardcoded to override music bc the rain sound is a music track iirc

[reef kiln]

But Button I like the music 😭 I guess I will live with it............. as I have no choice 🤣 😇

[lucid mulch]

for night you can just set a nightmusic track iirc

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Location_data#Music oh there is also straight up a MusicIgnoredInRain flag you can just turn off in locations while you are there

though considering it defaults to false, not sure if it will do anything unless the vanilla locations also set it to true

ah theres a bunch of silly vanilla rules getting in the way of the newer music logic, rip

though I think it might survive if its not marked as ambiance?

[hot gale]

Trying to use ExtraMachineConfig to make a recipe for flavored mead using vanilla items. I want it to consume 10 fruit (to choose flavor/color) and one of any type of honey. Setting the selph.ExtraMachineConfig.RequirementID.1 to 340 and (O)340 but it seems to just take the fruit and ignore my honey altogether

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/e4fb971d38164b5c918da290c4716f34

The same formula works for preserving jar as far as I can tell, is it a limitaion of the keg?

[brittle pasture]

RequirementId, not RequirementID

[hot gale]

oh wooops

Thanks!

[rare orbit]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/4f112356a2724684952bbf4b10640e94
any idea how to fix this??

[uncut viper]

you have to put it in content patcher format

you havent put anything in Changes or made a Format field

[rare orbit]

how is that set up?

[uncut viper]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide.md

[rare orbit]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/ee63e6cc28604fe6b619fae9a455ebcb

i feel very very dumb ;-;

sorry

[uncut viper]

you need another } at the end of your file. also you need to change the [ and ] for your ToArea to { and } respectively

you should consider a text editor that will auto format JSON or point out errors to you if you are not using one already

[rare orbit]

how can i add that to notepad++?

[uncut viper]

also i lied a bit you need a } at the end and a ] after the end of the ToArea section

[rare orbit]

{
"Format": "2.5.0",
"Changes": [
{
"Action": "EditImage",
"PatchMode": "Replace",
"Target": "Mods/blueberry.LoveOfCooking.Assets/Sprites",
"FromFile": "assets/lunys tool-sprites.png",
"FromArea": [
"X": 0,
"Y": 160,
"Width": 118,
"Height": 48
},
"ToArea": [
"X": 0,
"Y": 160,
"Width": 118,
"Height": 48
},
]
}
}
sooooooo idk if this is correct

[vernal crest]

!codeblock

[ocean sail]

You can embed code in Discord using a series of three ` :
```
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Even if not a haiku
Just an example
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For syntax highlighting, add the language code on the same line as the first
``` (with no space, like ```json).
The usual codes are cs (C#) and json.

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[rare orbit]

oops

[vernal crest]

Bleh, N++ needs plugins to autoformat

[uncut viper]

i would recommend Visual Studio Code for automatic formatting and error detection instead, you can kinda get formatting with json but not automatic error detection

(you can get a plugin for error detection too but you'd have to remember to click it manually every time)

[vernal crest]

Yeah, switching to VSC seems more useful at this point than trying to find a bunch of plugins for N++

[rare orbit]

ok ;-; i honestly don't know what im doin

[uncut viper]

also you changed the wrong thing, dont change your FromArea symbols, only change the ToArea ones to braces instead of brackets

[lusty elm]

For each { or [ it needs a paired ] and } respectively to close, like for the to area at the end, i see a [ into a }, that won't work

[uncut viper]

if you would like one, there is a JSON tutorial here that can explain how it works so you can figure these things out yourself/not run into the errors in the first place, with a bit of stardew focus specifically

[vernal crest]

That is why we are helping you, so you can learn what you're doing. Definitely read Button's tutorial!

[rare orbit]

thank u ;w;

ok! i just download visual code studio too

[vernal crest]

When you open your json file in VSC you can press "Shift+Alt+F" and it will fix your indentation.

[rare orbit]

ok!

how do i use auto formating as well in vsc?

[hot gale]

Does anyone know if it's possible in ExtraMAchineConfig to preserve the 'given'? name of a honey. For example if its' blue jazz honey and I preserve the ID for my mead, it comes out as Honey Honey Mead, instead of Bluejazz Honey Mead

[vernal crest]

I just told you. That's the Shift-Alt-F.

[tribal ore]

You can mix a new ambient track that has music laid over the rain ambient. I did it for one of my events.

But that would be creating a custom audio file. You'd have to load it in as an asset and then attach it to a map or something afterwards

[rare orbit]

kk

[brittle pasture]

in PreserveId Use DROP_IN_PRESERVE instead of DROP_IN

DROP_IN = inherit the item id (aka Honey)
DROP_IN_PRESERVE = inherit the item flavor (aka Blue Jazz)

[hot gale]

Thanks so much!

[hot gale]

Is there a way to preserve the .1 drop in instead of what I drop in the keg?

[brittle pasture]

scroll down to Inheriting the used fuels' flavor and color

on EMC's page

[hot gale]

Roger that, ty much

[brittle pasture]

it will tell you to scroll back up to https://github.com/zombifier/My_Stardew_Mods/tree/master/ExtraMachineConfig#items-with-multiple-flavors-and-colors because I cannot organize

note that those fields for extra flavors and colors are set in ModData, not CustomData

[versed wyvern]

Just reporting in that it looks like playSound and stopSound event commands work perfectly well for looping sound effects that are set to be Looped in Data/AudioChanges

[sour sleet]

What's the best method of getting choppable trees to spawn on a custom map?

[dusk mulch]

Use the paths map and paths layer.

Paths tilesheet*

So import the paths tilesheet into the map, then put anything from that tilesheet onto the paths layer.

[sour sleet]

I prob sound dumb but the trees on the tilesheet.. they're just decorative and cannot be cut down. Are there things I need to do to make them choppable?

[dusk mulch]

All you need to do is put the stuff from the Paths tilesheet onto the Paths layer.

[sour sleet]

And that will make them choppable?

[dusk mulch]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps#Paths_layer

Yep!

[sour sleet]

Oh! I get it now, thanks

[dusk mulch]

No worries!

i think there is someting wrong with my JSON...

[tender bloom]

i suspect you have stuff at the wrong level

due to wonky parentheses or brackets

[dusk mulch]

no lol its just tokens and other stuff that the json validator cant recognize

the json is fine in game

no errors

if it works, dont touch it

[tender bloom]

interesting

but reasonable!

[dusk mulch]

apart from this error that i cant figure out

[uncut viper]

i mean it kinda seems like the json is not in fact fine in game

[dusk mulch]

i just figured out why that error was appearing

it was in tiled.

so it wasnt the json

[uncut viper]

those are not Tiled related errors

[tribal ore]

Trying to figure out how the $q/$r stuff works with answer IDs that are not integers. I know there are examples on the wiki, but I just... can't wrap my head around it.

    summer_Sat_old: "#$p 43#Hey, you better not be snooping around in my room anymore!$a|But I guess it could get you in pretty good shape." #!String
    summer_Sat_12: "Hmm... sounds like a lot of work." #!String
    summer_Sat_13: "What? You'd better not be doing that!$a" #!String

This example, for instance. If I wanted to make a custom one of these, I'm assuming I could use {{ModId}}_A1/{{ModId}}_A2

But then when I want to i18nify everything afterwards it just completely breaks my brain. If someone can provide a mod that would be a good example to follow (especially for the i18n stuff in conjunction with the non-integer q/r ids), I'd really appreciate it.

I have literally done everything with "quickQuestion" up to this point in order to avoid this. But now I need to set and check an answer ID with a trigger action later 😦

[lucid iron]

i18n it separately

[tribal ore]

Am I at least right that something like {{ModId}}_A1 would be a valid answer id to use?

Should I just use arbitrary integers? xD (I really don't want to. Please don't make me use magic numbers)

[lucid iron]

summer_Sat: "{{i18n:summer_Sat.dialogue}}#$q 42/43 summer_Sat_old#{{i18n:summer_Sat.question}}#$r 42 10 summer_Sat_12#{{i18n:summer_Sat.answer.1}}#$r 42 10 summer_Sat_12#{{i18n:summer_Sat.answer.2}}#$r 43 -10 summer_Sat_13#{{i18n:summer_Sat.answer.3}}#$r 42 10 summer_Sat_12#{{i18n:summer_Sat.answer.4}}" 

i dont think the keys on the response matter so you can use ModId if you want yes

[tribal ore]

Thank you thank you thank you thank you

[lucid iron]

tbh this is like

the kind of i18n i theoretically push for

leave ur control out of ur dialogue

[hard fern]

wow i18n magic

[lucid iron]

but i dont make npc mods so what do i know

ppl have said it is pain to edit like this

[tribal ore]

Just watch me get one of these working and then find out that PLAYER_HAS_DIALOGUE_ANSWER won't even do what I want it to

[lucid iron]

hm

cant u just quickQuestion with $action AddMail

its like the same thing isnt it

[tribal ore]

Not an event 😦

[lucid iron]

oh this is regular ol daily

well if u arent opposed to +1 mod dependency

[tribal ore]

What I want to do:
Harvey: "hey player, can you please bring this to someone else?" Y/N

If they select Y, I can use a trigger action to detect that and start a quest

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/Mushymato/MiscMapActionsProperties?tab=readme-ov-file#mushymatommap_questiondialogue-question_dialog_id

potentially easier to use

[lucid iron]

but hm if u want this the vanilla system is sufficent

[tribal ore]

xD Man... I'm really really really trying to keep the dependencies at 0 required. I already have 1 optional

[hard fern]

if you're using contentpatcher its automatic 1 dependency

[lucid iron]

well as mentioned u dont need this for ur use case

cus i mainly made this to ask bus stop fences questions

you can immediately start a quest if u use $action i think

[tribal ore]

Oh?

[lucid iron]

dont need to go through Data/TriggerActions

[tribal ore]

I will double check that. That would be awesome

[lusty elm]

Help, my brain wont stop designing an Npc Family.

[lucid iron]

$action AddQuest <quest ID>

[tribal ore]

Nice! Thank you 😄

[lucid iron]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Dialogue

stick this in one of the responses

forgor if u need quote

prob not?

[tribal ore]

Tbf, the dialogue page is one of the biggest ones. I remember seeing the action thing once but completely forgot about it :/

[lusty elm]

Where should i be looking to get started on NPC's?

[lucid iron]

looking forward to Draylon expansion coming soon 2026

!npc

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Aviroen has put together a template that will allow you to easily create a romanceable NPC.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

• Fireredlily has a WIP NPC Builder Please do report any errors you get with it into the NPC thread!

To use this command, type !npc.

[lucid iron]

tia's guide is good point

[tribal ore]

I've read that tia's tutorial is excellent

[lucid iron]

u can look at aviro's template for romancables

[lusty elm]

There are 5 npcs in the expansion that my brain has, WITHOUT MY CONSENT, designed.

[lucid iron]

before u fall into the npc mines let me share with u the stupid farm map i'll never make

[tribal ore]

This is so real. Good luck

[lucid iron]

its gonna be 2 layers through dumb C# things

[lusty elm]

I have a few of those.... >.>

[lucid iron]

a topside regular farm and a cave u seemlessly go in by walking under stuff

[lusty elm]

well actually, they are like 70% done, but i just stopped working on them.

[lucid iron]

the cave should have some fun lighting and tides (it is connect to ocean

captain nemo lives there

[faint ingot]

Can I use an $action command in a quickquestion response?

[lucid iron]

if u can use normal $ things it should work

havent checked how event dialogue works tho

[lusty elm]

Cave farm is one of them ait had an underground farm, that was connected to the ocean, a forest area, and a mine for every type of mines tilesheet, as well as an above ground surface map, it was progressively unlockable and you had to repair every access point, blow up rocks to access more of the cave, and explode walls to make it easier to traverse and open up more area. it was actually like 98% done, but then TMXL/PYTK died and it had a lot of Lua and features from it to make it work.

[faint ingot]

oh wait I can do what I need to outside of the dialogue portion I forgot

[lucid iron]

well its prob not that bad to port the lua if u want the farm to exist

assuming i can figure out how to read lua

[lusty elm]

part of the issue was some of the layer swapping and custom lock triggers i was using from it as well, in combination with the Lua, and its just so much work to unentangle it from how integrated it was that i go "Bleh" anytime i look at it.

[lucid iron]

yea i dont think there is any good alternative for map layer nonsense in 1.6 rn

[lusty elm]

The other one is Volcano Farm, Which had a large mountain which turns out to be a volcano that erupts in spring and slowly over the course of a week or 2 lava seeps out and covers like 30-40% of the map transforming it. It had multiple submaps, and you could go inside the volcano, after a month a fire junimo would move it, you could do some quests for him, and his whole tribe would move it, and you'd do quests for them, and sacrifice crops to them which they yeet into the volcano to appease it, making it cool down and less likely to vomit out rocks onto your maps in an eruption. they would also unlock a spa inside, as well as an extra greenhouse area, tide pool submap expansion, quarry submap expansion, etc.

[lucid iron]

an adventure

[lusty elm]

leme go find a screenshot i have one somewhere.

I actually finished pretty much all the maps, it was just the events, quests etc that stalled me out.

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Enterprise, with 22 C# mods and 3 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[lusty elm]

at the time we didnt have a good way to reliably do quests or a quest board so it kinda stalled out and i stopped working on it, I could probably finish it nowadays.

[unique sigil]

your ideas sound fun have you looked into unlockable bundles? in case you want to revisit those farms, you can use UB for progression unlocks

[lusty elm]

Yea, 1.6 also has a looot more ways to trigger mailflags which i can use to initiate changes which is great.

[unique sigil]

it supports map patches upon bundle completion, so i thought it would work for your cave farm

[lusty elm]

The other issue with cave farm is, i designed the maps like 4 years ago, and i've come a long way since then, and when i open up the map i look at it and go "I wana redo it"

[unique sigil]

why not?

ive got a map from sep 2024 i want to redo, a map from 4 years ago is even more worth the redo

[lusty elm]

to be fair its just basically redoing the mod, and my motivation is uhhhhh, random yet has limited duration? so i just need to time it to make the most of my motivation when it says "cave farm looks appealing"

[unique sigil]

fair enough!

[lusty elm]

I dont mind mapping, I in fact enjoy it, but my brain is just all over right now, cuz right now its going DO NPCS! and imma have a hard time focusing on anything but that for a bit

[unique sigil]

im glad i started making maps post-1.6, i can have so many layers

[lusty elm]

I Remember When TMXL/PYTK was the only way to load maps, and Documentation was on everyones wishlist cuz we had none.

[hard fern]

Ive always wanted to use unlockable bundles :3 i had an idea for being able to tie it to story progression...

[unique sigil]

UB is so fun to play around with

[hard fern]

Well "always" is a stretch bc i didn't even know it existed for quite some time

[dusk mulch]

bump

[hard fern]

But it sounds cool to be able to do something like that

Time to pin it yo my wip board

[unique sigil]

it would be easy for story progression, bc each completed bundle automatically has a mail flag generated for them, and you can do a check on that flag for your story's progress

its very convenient

[lusty elm]

one thing to note however is also if you add bundles, all of them need to be completed for the community center to be done.

or at least that is how it worked when i looked into it like 2 years ago

[lusty elm]

Honestly, imma just say fix your json, I doubt anyone is going to really want to help or managed to figure it out when your error validation list is half as long as your json.

[dusk mulch]

That is the thing, nothing is wrong with the json apart from those errors. It is because there are tokens that the validator doesn't recognize.

Also

The JSON validator I use in notepad++ has no problem with it so...

[hard fern]

Just because notepad ++ doesn't say anything doesn't mean that there isn't anything wrong with it

[dusk mulch]

It's fine, I will figure it out myself

[uncut viper]

your json at the bottom half is not correct at all, you just have a bunch of position object things not within any patch repeated one after the other

has nothing to do with any tokens

[hard fern]

And you're apparently not doing your includes properly? In a different json than the one you posted

[dusk mulch]

I thought this whole time they were apart of another patch

[hard fern]

I dont know what that is referring to

[uncut viper]

well, that's what the validator was telling you was wrong

it was looking for patches, so it was looking for things like Action and Target, but was only finding your position stuff

[dusk mulch]

it is a shock that worked in game

[rigid oriole]

i presume CP just skips any invalid actions

[lusty elm]

pretty much

[dusk mulch]

oh.

[rigid oriole]

Question: When is it safe to Game1.content.Load some asset and have it include any mod patches? I'm trying to grab all existing special orders (Data/SpecialOrders), including ones added by other mods via content pipeline edits. I load the asset in the GameLaunched event, but logging reveals that only vanilla special orders are present (although a patch export reveals that, in fact, the modded special orders are in the game).

[lusty elm]

CP/Smapi tries very very hard to make sure your game doesnt crash

[hard fern]

(it's so kind)

[calm nebula]

It Depends TM

[rigid oriole]

nice

[calm nebula]

Mods can in theory inject whenever

But at earliest CP is two ticks after game launched

[rigid oriole]

is there a preferred way to wait those two ticks?

[calm nebula]

SaveLoaded is also a reasonable place to check

Then you have this

[lusty elm]

Oh no, I just realized that if i am making npcs... I have to make a BUILDING

[calm nebula]

https://github.com/atravita-mods/StardewMods/blob/e83ec70f0619adf13be0deae04ca1258836067fa/ContentMods/[CP] atravita special orders/content.json#L103

Orders only added after playing 284 in game days enjoyyyyyy

[hard fern]

[rigid oriole]

hmmmmmmmm

[calm nebula]

Lollllllllll

[rigid oriole]

i might just make special orders all/nothing in this config

then people will write fewer bug reports

[uncut viper]

i mean at that point you'd hopefully be listening for invalidation anyway

[calm nebula]

I invalidate myself every day

[gaunt orbit]

what you need to do is reload the asset when it gets invalidated. Ideally, also lazy load it. (wait to actually load it until you need it)

[rigid oriole]

i mean i sure did need it in gamelaunched for a GMCM screen but i think i will simply... not make it so complicated

[calm nebula]

(You can register for gmxm later)

Don't worry. I'll make it complicated instead

[uncut viper]

gmcm as far as I know does not enforce game launched right

i know CP does

[rigid oriole]

it doesn't but I wanted my stuff to show on the title screen config page

[uncut viper]

do you expect people to go into the config menu on the first tick

[rigid oriole]

so i'd have to listen elsewhere still for invalidation, etc

[calm nebula]

What are you making?

[rigid oriole]

sorry if i'm not making a ton of sense rn, i have The Sick ™️

my brain is very slow

[rigid oriole]

config for "Failed Quests Lose Friendship", just the ability to opt out of the penalty for certain kinds of quests via config

[gaunt orbit]

The usual pattern I do is this

public static T MyData => myData ??= Helper.GameContent.Load<T>("myassetname");
private static T? myData;

And then just set it to null when invalidated

[dusk mulch]

Well, I got my JSON all cleaned up.
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/eb0148ca44ca499eb6035016c3f2d816

[rigid oriole]

that's clean i like that (to wren)

[hard fern]

me brainstorming ideas waiting for the C# demon to catch up to me

[rigid oriole]

the C# demon is ur friend 😌

[dusk mulch]

i got a mod idea list if you want some

[hard fern]

No, i don't need any

I wonder how long i can go without needing to make friends with the C# demon

[calm nebula]

C# isn't a demon

[dusk mulch]

it is, admit it

[hard fern]

Honestly it might be easier than it looks

I poked around in free love's code before

[dusk mulch]

i want to learn C# but with CP taking over more and more i feel like i dont need to, i can just wait it out

[gaunt orbit]

C# is the most pleasant language I've written in so far

[hard fern]

my current conundrum is wondering if i can cut out an extra tilesheet requirement

[dusk mulch]

ayyy the error is gone! ty for helping me clean up the JSON and fix the error

[rigid oriole]

not to get off topic but after writing C#, having to go back to java just pains me so much

[hard fern]

Ok yeah no java scares me

[gaunt orbit]

Yeah

[rigid oriole]

my unprofessional opinion is that C# is actually a good language

[dusk mulch]

C# looks good but the program you use to write in it i hate

[uncut viper]

you can write C# in anything

[hard fern]

Which one

[rigid oriole]

i'm afraid to ask what you write it in

[calm nebula]

Why does Java scare you

[rigid oriole]

i've been pleased with rider's autocomplete

[dusk mulch]

excuse me?! i thought it was only VS

[uncut viper]

VS can compile it but theres no reason you have to use VS to do so

[rigid oriole]

wait til u hear about vim 😌

[uncut viper]

(calling out selph)

[rigid oriole]

does selph mod in vim???

[hard fern]

😔 it looks like it wants to eat me (only i will understand this)

[uncut viper]

i thought it was selph

[rigid oriole]

i believe you since you're around this chat more than me lol

[gaunt orbit]

Not to be a shill for bill gates but writing in plain Java after using c# so much feels like caveman technology

Like how string operations only accept regex and do not support literal strings

[hard fern]

Is it possible to write C# in plain ol notepad

Or is that just out of the question

[gaunt orbit]

Or how boolean and Boolean are different types

[rigid oriole]

yes but please don't

[gaunt orbit]

That's absolutely possible

[rigid oriole]

well i won't sotp u i suppose

i should not crush ur dream, it is totally possible. I would personally just find it inconvenient

[hard fern]

Now can you write C# in doom-

[gaunt orbit]

It makes things harder though

[brittle pasture]

did someone mention me
and yes I write mods in vim

[rigid oriole]

do you have plugins

[uncut viper]

hi selph i mentioned you

[brittle pasture]

I use lunarvim which has a bunch for me, including a LSP

[gaunt orbit]

Rider and vscode are also popular, but c# is just text. Technically you can use any kind of text editor

I like vs for its debugging features and intellisense though

[dusk mulch]

i used notepad, like the windows notepad for 3-4 months then switched to notepad++ almost last week

[gaunt orbit]

All you need to do c# technically is the dotnet sdk

Though you better be comfortable with command line

[dusk mulch]

w-why...?

[tiny zealot]

it pains me to admit that "Microsoft Java" (C#) is Java Except Good

[rigid oriole]

have to compile the C#

[gaunt orbit]

There's no gui, it's all commands

Unless you use an IDE

[dusk mulch]

now that you say there is no gui i am never touching C#

[gaunt orbit]

I mean if you use VS or something, then that is the gui. It's only no gui if you want to rawdog it with notepad

[fierce vault]

Hi, sorry about this but I closed both my tileset window and layers window. I looked online and it says "You can reopen it in View > Views and Toolbars > Tilesets." but I have no idea where that is.

I also on occasion readjust the locations of them on accident as well, and it takes a lot of trial and error to move them back where I want them by messing around with the mouse. Any tips on how to fix/avoid these problems?

[gaunt orbit]

Are you using Tiled or tIDE?

[fierce vault]

Tiled

[dusk mulch]

It is on the top of the screen, you should see multiple options, Pick View and follow those steps.

[hot gale]

Anyone know why

              "MoveEntries": [
                {
                    "ID": "bh.honey.mead_make",
                    "ToPosition": "Top"
                }
            ]

wouldnt be overwriting recipes? Still taking fruit and making wine, even though I sent my recipe to the top

[fierce vault]

I'm not sure why I don't see it

[gaunt orbit]

Are you using targetfields?

[fierce vault]

I've hovered over every button nand there is no veiw

[vernal crest]

I think Chu helped you resolve this particular question you had but I just wanted to let you know that I'm very comfortable with dialogue questions (have written many, written a tutorial on nesting them) and I'm happy to be pinged if you run into other issues!

[hot gale]

I.... am not sure?
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/2fc3811f32af4853b9884c2cb2e5505a

[hot gale]

Line 161

[fierce vault]

my tiled doesn't look like that. what version is yours?

[gaunt orbit]

That looks right to me, hmmm

[hard fern]

Can you show a acreenshot of your tiled interface

[fierce vault]

I am in a project, does that matter?

yes

hold on

[gaunt orbit]

Try doing a patch export and seeing what the resulting json looks like

That will tell you if it's an issue with your json or something else

[fierce vault]

I figured it out. I had to be in full screen and then hover on the top edge to see the option. Thanks

[hard fern]

Ah

[hot gale]

What do I export exactly? Machines?

[dusk mulch]

Oh, yeah. Sometimes tiled glitches and you have to go fullscreen then un-fullscreen

[fierce vault]

I'm still not sure why my interface is dark though lol

[gaunt orbit]

patch export Data/Machines

[vernal crest]

What OS do you use?

[brave fable]

pretty sure if you go to File/Edit > Options you can change the theme. it's likely set to your OS default

[vernal crest]

Ooh I just made my Tiled purple

[fierce vault]

Is there a difference in them? I don't mind the dark theme

[gaunt orbit]

Anyways, I gotta sleep. I'll see you all later

[fierce vault]

Oh, I need to try that

[vernal crest]

One of the OSes uses Native by default which matches your system theme but you can customise it if you switch to Tiled Fusion.

[brittle pasture]

you're modifying a machine named "(BC){{ModId}}_MeadKeg" instead of the vanilla keg

is that intended

[fierce vault]

Ok, cool

[brittle pasture]

asking because if it's your own machines you shouldn't need to do moveentries or targetfields, just define them in the order you want

[hot gale]

Hmm, line 161 - am I not adding it to the MPS gold keg?

165**

[vernal crest]

You can also group different views together however you want, like I have moved my Properties box to be with my Tilesets because I didn't like having it be free-floating.

[hot gale]

Oh wait

lines are different cause the validator didnt word wrap

Line 364

[vernal crest]

Word wrapping doesn't usually change line number?

[brittle pasture]

in that case that looks fine to me; what does the output of patch export Data/Machines look like

[lusty elm]

My tiled is customized as well, one of the first things i did when I decided to be a mapping modder, was to customize the colors for example, as id be staring at it for 8 hrs at a time, and i wanted it to be easy on the eyes.

[brittle pasture]

just a guess but try setting "Id": "bh.honeymead_make_gold" explicitly

[vernal crest]

I have had my Tiled on light mode this whole time but no longer!

[brittle pasture]

CP may not set that by default if you only specify that in the key of a new entry and MoveEntries would fail to detect it later

[hard fern]

I think my tiled is just default light mode

[hot gale]

For the Trigger?

er

yeah

[brittle pasture]

above "Triggers":, inside a block in Entries

[hot gale]

That worked :D

[brave fable]

one of my favourite qol changes to tiled was swapping the hotkeys to photoshop keybinds. so smooth having the tilestamp tool be the same as pencil tool, rectangle tool be marquee tool, etc

[hot gale]

You rock, thanks so much

[hard fern]

Omg i forgot i could change hotkeys

[dusk mulch]

what is the link for the 1.6 item ids?

[hot gale]

https://mateusaquino.github.io/stardewids/

[dusk mulch]

ty!

[fierce vault]

I tried that one but found I liked it better in a different place after moving on accident

[vernal crest]

I like grouping them because I don't need the properties open most of the time so I don't want the box taking up valuable map space

[brave fable]

imo one of the more important parts of laying out your tiled window is getting a 1280x720 viewport at 4x zoom for the map. i think it's valuable being able to see what your map will look like to anyone playing with default settings

ofc you can resize anytime but having that frame is helpful

there isnt much point me designing a map to be seen at 4k 50% zoom when only 1% of people will play like that

[uncut viper]

i make my maps with an 800x600 resolution in mind like god intended

[brave fable]

ah the busstop method

[fierce vault]

Tiled is pretty difficult with it's pathing. I still can't figure out how to open any other mod's tmx files to even try to work on compatiblity.

[uncut viper]

just put the tilesheets they need back in the folder with the tmx

its looking exactly where the tmx tells it to in order to find the path to the files

[vernal crest]

I usually move other mods' tmx files into the Unpacked Maps folder and that's why I have to reunpack my content because now I have too many non-vanilla maps and tilesheets in there.

[fierce vault]

Oh, like all in the same folder? not how the mod was construted?

[vernal crest]

I should really try the whole "copy of the maps folder" thing

[uncut viper]

the tmx will always* look in the same folder as the tmx itself for its pngs

[vernal crest]

The mod should have been constructed with all the tilesheets in the same folder anyway

[uncut viper]

since thats what the game will do (essentially) when its loaded in

the mod may move the tilesheets somewhre else afterwards to load them manually, but as Aba says, the map itself was made when everything was in the same folder

[fierce vault]

Oh... Does that mean I've made a mistake by oraganizing my current project in folders inside each other?

[uncut viper]

if you loaded your tilesheets when they were not in the same foldr as your tmx, then yes

you will have tilesheet climbing errors

[vernal crest]

Though you can fix that by opening the .tmx file in a text editor and removing the paths from the source= lines.

[uncut viper]

as long as, when the last time you save your .tmx, all the pngs are in the same folder as your tmx, it is fine to move them anywhere else after

[fierce vault]

errors in the game or just opening else where?

[hot gale]

Is there any way to prevent items from stacking if they have differnt prices?

[vernal crest]

Errors in the game

[uncut viper]

the game will not load your map

SMAPI wont, rather

but thats just semantics

[lucid mulch]

smapi will yell at you and refuse to load the map if it has tilesheet reference doing directory climbing https://github.com/Pathoschild/SMAPI/blob/develop/src/SMAPI/Framework/ContentManagers/ModContentManager.cs#L417

[fierce vault]

Ok, I better reorganize my current project then...

Can I ask abot map embedding while I'm at it?

[vernal crest]

Of course

[brittle pasture]

make one OutputItem entry for each price, then give each output item a different internal name

[uncut viper]

no you've used up your free questions quota for the day

[brave fable]

you're fine to have tmx > subfolder > tilesheet , but not superfolder > tilesheet > tmx

[uncut viper]

(/j)

[brave fable]

if that makes sense

[fierce vault]

I did that I think

[uncut viper]

if the tilesheets are vanilla then you cant do that either

you'd need to load them again in a different asset name

[vernal crest]

And if you're loading your custom tilesheets (please do) you also can't do that, can you?

[uncut viper]

and if theyre custom then you'd need to account for it in the asset name as well

for customs it'd be fine it just wouldnt be conventional

the exception to this is Mines tilesheets, those need a subfolder

since they are in a subfolder in vanilla

[fierce vault]

So, I'm techincally using tilesets from the game, but it doesn't recognize them as the same as from the content unpacked folder. What am I to do?

[uncut viper]

put all the tilesheet pngs you are using inside the same folder as your .tmx

then, open your .tmx in Notepad++ or something, and find all the file paths next to <image source=...

remove the filepaths and just make them the tilesheet png name

[hot gale]

Thats genius, you thought of everything haha

[lucid mulch]

bonus points is to have the external tilesheet filenames prefixed with ..
SMAPI will clean it up for you by removing the . but makes sure that you definately use the real tilesheet and not the one you might accidently ship

[vernal crest]

But when you test in game, you have to remove all the tilesheets from the .tmx folder if you want to use the game ones

[fierce vault]

What about the custom ones?

[uncut viper]

for example if you see <image source="Subfolder/Vanilla/spring_outdoors.png"> change that to just <image source="spring_outdoors.png">

you CAN keep the custom ones in the folder when you release the mod, but you can also Load them with Content Patcher into Maps/

then you can still remove them from the same folder from your tmx and puit them elsewhere for organization purposes

the benefit of this is that other people can apply edits to your custom tilesheets

[lucid mulch]

for the purposes of map making, there are two categories, tilesheets you made/are shipping, and ones that someone else (vanilla or different mod) is shipping

[uncut viper]

for things like recolour compatibility

[vernal crest]

I saw someone do that the other day and the game was looking for the tilesheet with the period in front of it (.townInterior). Is that not meant to happen?

[hot gale]

How do I then define which output item is used?

[brittle pasture]

if UseFirstValidOutput is false (the default), it'd just pick a valid one at random

[hot gale]

Hawt

[fierce vault]

Ok, thanks. I'll try reorganizing and then hopefully can apply this other stuff later.

I'm going to be signing off now, thanks.

[latent mauve]

I can't figure out what Gunther is doing in these frames. Anyone know?

[uncut viper]

is he polishing an artifact

[scarlet saddle]

making cookiesimo

[brave fable]

looking at his belly imo

cradling a child

extending his chin. endless possibilities

[lucid iron]

is this from the intro cutscene where he is like

[proven spindle]

grooming his goatee

[lusty elm]

npcs have more parts than i remembered

[latent mauve]

I'm running into issues with it because I reskinned him so he doesn't have gloves, and the thing in his hands and the skin tone are the same. xD

[lucid iron]

he's revealing his biceps

[hard fern]

He looks like he's... Uhh taking off his gloves idk

[tender bloom]

Magnifying glass?

[lusty elm]

the first one also almost looks like he's reading a business card or something

[dusk mulch]

How do I do the spoilers in the mod description?

[dusk mulch]

reading a piece of paper

[orchid glade]

polishing a peice of glass for a picture hes about to frame

[dusk mulch]

Bump

[orchid glade]

try [spoiler]Spoiler Content[/spoiler]

[latent mauve]

It's BBCode, right?

So it's [spoiler]text[/spoiler] , yeah

[orchid glade]

But I don't know, if it's that it doesn't show immediately when you're writing the mod description

[faint ingot]

I have Shannon's 14H event working and I'm ecstatic about it

[latent mauve]

I just played the scene, Gunther is indeed inspecting something with a magnifying glass

[versed wyvern]

I will continue to imagine he's rubbing it lovingly like a guinea pig

[latent mauve]

now if only I could get my sprite to work properly so it doesn't look wonky when he looks to both sides xD

[dusk mulch]

Is this an unfinished item?

[hard fern]

Errr

I believe that's a new item in 1.6

Wait

No thats the cookout kit

[gentle rose]

cookout kit is not new in 1.6 either

[rose cliff]

Hi all. I'm trying to run SVE and Make Gunther Real together. The biggest problem I am finding is that SVE changes the map such that Gunther is trapped in his room. I tried opening up the ArchaeologyHouse map in tiled, and I found most of the tilesets it wants, but the only files I could find for either of the town interiors are in the base game under Maps, and are .xnb files, which Tiled doesn't seem to like. Paths I couldn't find at all. O ye knowledgeable of Tiled and mapmaking, what do I do now?

[uncut viper]

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[uncut viper]

if you unpack your files you will get those xnbs turned into more usable files, in this case pngs

which can be used as tilesheets

[rose cliff]

I took a screenshot of my problem, but I'm not seeing a way to post it here. I have it up in a help request over in mod support.\

[dusk mulch]

you need to be cowpoke to post images

[rose cliff]

Ah, OK, that explains it.

[uncut viper]

(you are one though. you can just paste the image here)

[dusk mulch]

Oh.

[mighty ginkgo]

@inner harbor can i ask if the bird in the left upper corner is a native game or custom ES asset? i made a bunch of these warp pads for personal use years ago and i'm pretty sure i snatched it from ES files, but i'm not completely sure. just asking in case i get inspired to release them at some point (so i'll change it if there are permission issues)

[uncut viper]

yeah, you just need to unpack your files and get the pngs for editing

[rose cliff]

So back to the modding wiki to find out how to unpack files, then?

[inner harbor]

its Lexi's Friend Gull

[dusk mulch]

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[rose cliff]

(My brain hurts.)

[dusk mulch]

Just follow the tutorial to unpack the files, then use those files as tilesheets so the map works.

[inner harbor]

modified from the gulls in the game but designed to fit 16x32 pixels

[dusk mulch]

heh. the farm name isnt centered.

[mighty ginkgo]

okay, i'll get it from the native files then and modify it as needed. thanks!

[rose cliff]

I am unpacking as we speak. I might actually be able to get thi sto work.

[dusk mulch]

I can't figure out the ID for dried blackberries.

Can someone help?

[brave fable]

DriedFruit

it's a flavoured item though, so you're only going to get a Dried out of it

[dusk mulch]

I tried to add flavor to it but it didnt work

[brave fable]

per Data/Machines you'd need to create some output item FLAVORED_ITEM DriedFruit DROP_IN_ID to match the vanilla behaviour

[dusk mulch]

It is for a shop

[brave fable]

you could try an item query for FLAVORED_ITEM DriedFruit 410?

[dusk mulch]

That worked, ty!