making-mods-general

[tawny ore]

Or rather this

action AddBuff SlowPlayer ...

[modern ether]

ahh, i see

[tawny ore]

There might be a better way, I'm no even scripter so take anything I'm saying with a grain of salt

[modern ether]

i haven't dabbled in buffs/debuffs yet, would that require C# or can content patcher do it?

i dunno. like i'll do it if necessary but it seems like there has to be a better way

[tawny ore]

Content Patcher should be able to do it since there is a Data/Buffs

If one already has a slowness effect, you may be able to reuse it instead of creating a new one

[modern ether]

i think there is a slowness one, i'd just have to hunt it down

[tawny ore]

This one here has speed -2

Actually there's a few, so you can test any one of them out

[lusty elm]

Finally Finished the Farmhouse Starting Interior for the new map, Though I'm not sure why the fireplace starts on. https://i.gyazo.com/b4e27ee03c36b3fe29c369f98f3346dd.png

[modern ether]

it doesn't slow the farmer down during an event 😦

[tawny ore]

Ah darn, I was hoping that would work

[modern ether]

it does make her flash yellow though 🤣

[tawny ore]

Oh it looks like in the code it has a condition that prevents addedSpeed from being used in the calculation while an event is happening

[modern ether]

darn

i can slow npc down easily too which is the dumb part

[tawny ore]

Except for currentEvent.farmerAddedSpeed which is the command you asked about earlier

[modern ether]

yeah

[tawny ore]

I can't tell where in this code it prevents you from doing negative numbers. Does it do anything if you did something like -10 to make it more obvious?

[modern ether]

i'll check

[tawny ore]

Oh wait, negative probably just goes to 0
Math.Max(0, Game1.CurrentEvent.farmerAddedSpeed - 2)

[modern ether]

yeah it's just normal walking speed

wait hang on

its farmerAddedSpeed - 2?

that might mean it works the same as the speed npc command

[tawny ore]

In this one line of code, it looks like it's the larger of 0 or the added speed - 2. So if it's negative, it just gets set to 0.

[modern ether]

let me test something real quick and see if i've been dumb

[teal bridge]

Alright fam, took a couple of days longer than expected but here it is: Star Control 1.0 Alpha 1

Especially for @lucid iron, @acoustic summit and @tawny ore who expressed interest but of course open to everyone.

Please delete the old Radial Menu mod or move it off to the side somewhere before installing! Yes, that includes config.json, it's no longer compatible either.

It's going to take me a long time to write documentation, hard to even know where to start right now, but I think configuration and controls should be a lot more intuitive than they used to be, and in the meantime please ping me with any questions or bug reports.

And now I think I'm going to go crack open the whiskey.

[modern ether]

ok no i was wrong. i thought i figured it out but i didn't

[tawny ore]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-buzz-lightyear-record-captains-log-gif-7957254

[modern ether]

i thought that using 1 might slow the farmer down, and 3 be normal speed, but that's not correct

it only works like that for npcs

i dont get why the speed command has to work differently for npcs vs the farmer

[teal bridge]

I don't know what Buzz is saying in that clip. (Never saw the movie, believe it or not)

[tawny ore]

If I want to add/remove items, can I RegisterItems to replace anything I had previously registered? I can invalidate a page, but it doesn't look like it's possible to invalidate an item.

[lusty elm]

How hard would it be to make an Item that is unbreaking and when used, warps the player to a specific tile?

[tawny ore]

That doesn't sound very complicated to me (in C#). Not sure whether data models are flexible enough to support on their own.

[teal bridge]

Not sure I fully understand why you'd want to do this - you definitely cannot remove items from the library once added, because users can have them set up in their menus and quick slots and such. So pulling the rug out from under them would be not very nice.

Item properties are read in real time though, so the expectation is that if the sprite, title, etc. of a single "action" is subject to change depending on the situation, then the properties can just return new values, no invalidation required.

[drowsy grove]

Does anyone have a blank character sprite sheet I could use? I want to attempt to make my own character

[winter dust]

How roomy.

[tawny ore]

Based on this limitation it seems like I'd have to register generic items and repurpose them as I need

Since Iconic Framework does allow mods to add or remove via the API. It's not used by any mod today, but if they did use it, I wouldn't have a way to continue supporting their actions.

[quiet dock]

can anyone help make an NPC?

[teal bridge]

Yeah, I understand. But I really do not want to have items being unregistered. It's one thing if they aren't re-registered on a new game start, that has some plausible chain of causation to users, but having items simply disappear while the game is running is a big no-no.

What you can do is disable actions that aren't available anymore; the menu item interface has an Enabled property now (that's new). Which is roughly the same to a user as, for example, having a slot bound to an inventory item that's no longer in their inventory.

I'd rather you didn't try to use generic placeholder items as they're just mystery meat in any of the configuration screens. And having an item change to some other totally different item is the same problem as removing it.

[rotund elm]

Heyo, Is there possibly a way with CP to prevent another mod from altering the price of an object in your mod. For instance longevity messes with the price of my mods coins which should not be altered

[lucid iron]

no

[rotund elm]

oof, so either a compatibility patch or I could possible see if it is based on object categories

[lucid iron]

it'd depend on whether longevity offered you an out i think

assuming that's a C# mod

[tawny ore]

Partially, it depends on how the other mod does it's thing. You can make yours more final by loading the mod, and then doing a really late edit so that it is more likely to be after other mod edits.

C# mods can disregard all of that, but edits through the content pipeline are prioritized by their order.

If a mod goes out of it's way to ensure it has the final say, it would probably be better to see if the author is willing to do anything to play more nicely with yours.

[rotund elm]

Ok I'll probably reach out to him and see what I can do

Thank yall

[teal bridge]

I almost always load assets at low priority unless there's some really brittle code around them. I know it's tempting to assert "author's intent" but it's just not in concert with the whole modding ecosystem or ethos.

If somebody wants to tweak your mod in a way that you believe breaks the balance, well... how is that different from installing a mod that messes with vanilla balance, like CJB cheats?

[tawny ore]

I load exclusive, but edit as the default since I'll let others who have a usecase for earlier or later do whatever they need to do

[lusty elm]

stares at Modding Pages Yeah Pretty sure if I want to make my own version of the Return Wand, Its going to involve C#

[lucid iron]

i have an idea

use spacecore totems but mail the player a new totem every day

[tawny ore]

It might be nice if a Framework like Spacecore gave you the ability to perform arbitrary actions using objects

[lusty elm]

Ideally I want to Make a Wand [Unbreakable totem], that is only usable on select maps [My farm and the maps it adds], that takes you to a warp room, which will have drop off warps in select locations around the map (Cave Entrances and map exits really, that way it doesnt clutter up or take up map space.)

I've been looking around and I thought i had a solution without coding, but Trigger doesnt have a Warp result. which if it did i could have used Item Extentions to do it I think?

[lusty elm]

is looking into this now

[devout otter]

To be fair, the purpose of Stardew Coin is to give your gold physical forms so altering that value in any way defeats the entire point of the mod.

[teal bridge]

Like the value determines which sprite gets drawn, or something?

[latent mauve]

It's the equivalent of storing your money as gold bars in your house rather than in coinage, from what I understand?

[tawny ore]

I'd be willing to make a framework to add this type of thing, although I wonder if it'd be better to see if it could get added to an existing mod like ItemExtensions since I know people are kind of averse to installing yet another framework. Assuming we can't find another one that already does this.

It seems odd if it's not already being taken care of since it seems like such an obvious action.

[lusty elm]

yeah i was suprised at how limited the base Trigger list is

[tawny ore]

It would genuinely surprise me if none of the zillion core mods doesn't have something like this.

[uncut viper]

do you just mean theres no Warp action?

i wasnt sure what you meant at first by "trigger doesnt have a warp result"

[tawny ore]

Use an item (without consuming) to warp

[calm nebula]

Spacecore has it

Next question

[lusty elm]

it has the without consuming? Ideally id also like to add conditionals

[tawny ore]

Spacecore always has it

[calm nebula]

I believe so

[uncut viper]

it has TotemWarp but its not conditional

it also has UseForTriggerAction but that wont include warp totem effects

[tawny ore]

Yup, you're right. ConsumedOnUse can be false

And can't the extension data technically be conditional if you're patching them in via CP

If you're only depending on location conditions, then it can update on warp

[uncut viper]

i mean i guess it depends on whatk inds of conditions

[lusty elm]

oh, somehow i completely skipped over that line, im freaking blind.
its location conditions, i only want it usable on certain maps

my eyes magnetted onto the ConsumeForTriggerAction instead.
Yeah your suggestions can make it work i think, conditional edits to the totem item

[uncut viper]

not to the item

to spacechase0.SpaceCore/ObjectExtensionData

[lusty elm]

so i'm editing the extension attached to the object, instead of the base that i'll be adding.

[devout otter]

I am tinkering and peering at Button's BETAS documentation in an attempt to make a fake NPC with portrait able to be talked to multiple times with different dialogue. I want to make sure make logic is right.

First I set a key with value with Spiderbuttons.BETAS_WritePlayerModData. Then I do Spiderbuttons.BETAS_DialogueBox depending on whether I have that key or not. I should also make this dialogue box change the key value. Afterwards I link a new dialogue to the new key value with Spiderbuttons.BETAS_PlayerModData token? Then when all the dialogue happens I should flush it all with Spiderbuttons.BETAS_RemovePlayerModData?

Am I on the right track here or completely off?

[uncut viper]

i think that sounds on track

[devout otter]

That's a relief! Then all's left is to figure out how to put all of them in.

If I put Spiderbuttons.BETAS_DialogueBox as a map action TileData, how do I make that conditionally fire?

[uncut viper]

you can use the Spiderbuttons.BETAS_Action map action instead to do an If action

Spiderbuttons.BETAS_Action If Spiderbuttons.BETAS_PLAYER_HAS_MOD_DATA whatever ## Spiderbuttons.BETAS_DialogueBox stuff

[devout otter]

Something like this?

[uncut viper]

it should still just be Action as the propery key

that way vanilla still finds it

[devout otter]

Aaah alright!

[uncut viper]

like Action OpenShop except its Action Spiderbuttons.BETAS_Action

with everything after that being the string you want to use as an action

(its a bit confusing i know i was workin with what ive got)

[devout otter]

Yar once you know the working example it should be smooth sailing, I think!

And can I put Spiderbuttons.BETAS_WritePlayerModData in the i18n, then? So that every dialogue would incrementally add the value?

[uncut viper]

im not 100% sure i know what you mean, could you give an example?

[tiny zealot]

i18n is just a string storage/retrieval system, so as long as it ends up in a place where the game will act on it correctly, you can put whatever you want in your i18n

[devout otter]

So I was thinking something like {{i18n: Pirate.[Spiderbuttons.BETAS_PlayerModData PirateDialogue]}} would call for Pirate.1 in the i18n file (whereas 1 is the value I've set beforehand).

[uncut viper]

Content Patcher won't parse a Tokenizable String

[devout otter]

Nuuu.

[uncut viper]

anything inside {{ }} is a content patcher token that CP will read first before the game ever knows about it

and replace it with some text

you can load your i18n to an asset though and then just use [LocalizedText]

same way you might Load a dialogue file directly

you can just load arbitrary string to string dictionaries (such as an i18n file)

[devout otter]

Okay, so I can do something like [LocalizedText Strings\Pirate.[Spiderbuttons.BETAS_PlayerModData PirateDialogue]]?

[uncut viper]

should work

or well

Strings\AssetName:Pirate.[Spiderbuttons.BETAS_PlayerModData PirateDialogue]

it might be better to do just that, actually, and not use LocalizedText

since the DialogueBox action will also load it if you pass in a translation key like that

[devout otter]

Ah yeah.

[uncut viper]

and that way you dont have to worry about quotes or anything

or spaces

you also dont have to Load it to Strings either btw you can load it wherever

[devout otter]

And then in the Strings/Pirate.1 entry I do something like "{{I18n:Pirate.1}}# Spiderbuttons.BETAS_WritePlayerModData PirateDialogue 2"To move to the next dialogue next time?

[uncut viper]

should work i think!

[devout otter]

Alright! All's left is to test it. Thank you!

[uncut viper]

as long as you do get the asset name thing right

since it wont be Strings/Pirate.1 as Pirate.1 is an entry inside the asset

Strings/Pirate.1 would be equivalent to writing Characters/Dialogue/resort_Leaving

[devout otter]

Ah yes of course.

Wait...

[uncut viper]

whereas Strings/YourAssetName:Pirate.1 is equivalent to Characters/Dialogue/Haley:resort_Leaving

if you're not loading your i18n files directly to the asset you will need to load a blank too

[devout otter]

Something like this in the TileData would work then? Spiderbuttons.BETAS_Action If Spiderbuttons.BETAS_PLAYER_HAS_MOD_DATA PirateDialogue ## Spiderbuttons.BETAS_DialogueBox Characters\Dialogue\CSNPCs:Pirate.[Spiderbuttons.BETAS_PlayerModData PirateDialogue] Portraits/Pirate

[uncut viper]

it should work

if it doesnt work then ping me

[devout otter]

Alright! Thanks again!

[teal bridge]

Asking here since I'm kind of stumped - does any know of any situations where IContentHelper.Load would simply not invoke AssetRequested handlers? I've double, triple, octuple-checked and it is simply being ignored in some specific cases (in this case, has something to do with non-English locale).

[brave fable]

at the risk of a stupid/obvious answer, has the asset been invalidated, and is the requested event emitted on cached asset loads?

[tiny zealot]

sounds like cache to me, yeah

[lucid iron]

does e.NameWithoutLocale make difference

[teal bridge]

It does seem to be cache related somehow, but in a very strange way, i.e. it tries and fails to load the localized asset and then gets the cached failure instead falling back to default locale. Again, in this specific instance, not normally.

I'm sure I'm misreading but... is this a bug in SMAPI?

try
{
    T data = this.LoadExact<T>(localizedName, useCache: useCache);
    localizedAssetNames[assetName.Name] = localizedName.Name;
    return data;
}
catch (ContentLoadException)
{
    localizedName = new AssetName(assetName.BaseName + "_international", null, null);
    try
    {
        T data = this.LoadExact<T>(localizedName, useCache: useCache);
        localizedAssetNames[assetName.Name] = localizedName.Name;
        return data;
    }
    catch (ContentLoadException)
    {
        localizedAssetNames[assetName.Name] = assetName.Name;
    }
}

This is in LoadLocalized, and specifically I'm looking at the last line, in the last ContentLoadException. If it fails to load the localized name, and it also fails to load the international name, then shouldn't it fall back on the base name instead of assetName.Name?

It's really hard to step through this method, seems like I'm going to have to pull SMAPI source and debug that to be sure, but I can't figure out where it finally falls back to the English/default asset when no localized assets exist.

Also holy hell, GetMachineData gets called a lot and does an asset load every single time. That's gotta be slowing the game down.

[daring skiff]

Sorry to interrupt with a noob question. I'm using Content Patcher to replace SVE Rasmodia's portraits with seasonal ones. That works fine, but when I enable Seasonal Outfits - Slightly Cuter Aesthetic, it takes priority. I assumed priority worked by setting a mod as a dependency in manifest.json.

Can't really find any good examples on Nexus to steal. Anyone have experience with this or examples to point me to?

[drowsy pewter]

Just use SCA's config to turn off wizard edits

it exists in two places if you're playing with SVE, cant remember where the other place is though

maybe just under the SVE config, so you might have that convered already

[tiny zealot]

patch order is determined first by Priority (a field on individual patches). mod load order (controlled by e.g. dependencies in the manifest) breaks ties.
see here for edits: https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editdata.md (it's the same procedure for loads, at action-load.md)

[drowsy pewter]

Yes but in this case i wouldnt recommend changing priorities or load order because that might not fully fix the problem. Because we use appearances now it's entirely possible for a mod like SCA to add new appearances that are not fully replaced by a seasonal mod on top of that

[slender badger]

It's in SCA and SCA for SVE

[drowsy pewter]

Thanks Airyn!

[tiny zealot]

also true, and good advice! i'm only attempting to explain how priority works, to correct the misconception

[slender badger]

Although SCA automatically disables all the SVE-affected characters if SVE is installed, so it should only need to be changed in SCA for SVE

[devout otter]

Yippee.

(Is there a way to give the display name spacing, Button?)

[uncut viper]

it might work if you put it in quotes

[devout otter]

Yep, that did it.

[uncut viper]

oh thank yoba

[rigid oriole]

would alex say "beef" like "to have beef with someone"

[calm nebula]

Yes

[rigid oriole]

thanks

[calm nebula]

Think of the most gymbro of gymbro

Alex will talk that way

[rigid oriole]

i'm in his dialogue file right now and he talks about situps soooo much

i don't talk to him much in game but holy 😭

i think in the enemies route he just constantly tells you he can do more situps than you

[calm nebula]

It's "Refeeds" and "one rep max" and "creatine"

[tiny zealot]

doesn't he literally mention "gains", or did i invent that (he totally would)

[calm nebula]

Oh that is a challenge, Alex

(Disclaimer: I am calling myself out.)

[teal bridge]

Thanks primarily to @lucid iron for yoloing and sussing out the early alpha bugs. I've put out an alpha 2 to fix the glaring issues. StardewUI will get a separate update.

[calm nebula]

(I am the gymbro of the nerds.)

[daring skiff]

This is probably for the best. I'm considering publishing this on Nexus and I wanted a way for it to work seamlessly, but just disabling in the config seems like the best decision.

[daring skiff]

I'm doing my reps and reading through all of this. Thank you.

[teal bridge]

This is more like how noodlearms think that gymbros talk than how gymbros actually talk. Sort of like how every time you see a scene of someone working out in a video game, they're doing bicep curls and nothing but bicep curls.
(I'll give CA credit, pretty sure one of Alex's cutscenes actually had him doing cleans.)
((Although doing cleans in a regular room with a carpeted/hardwood floor is actually a really bad idea.))

[slender badger]

Do you have permission from Nomori and CreepyKat?

[daring skiff]

No, I'm shooting everyone a message on Nexus once I'm finished.

Appreciate the check though.

[rigid oriole]

Do the response IDs for dialogue questions $q 54/55 ..... have to be integers? I've currently just picked a random high number to be my initial one and then I increment it when I need a new one, but this seems a bit hacky and could technically conflict if someone else really liked the number 2275390

actualy that number might be too big for whatever type stores it...

[calm nebula]

No

Does not need to be an integral anymore

[rigid oriole]

oh good i was hoping that was one of the things that changed

[uncut viper]

does that mean it can be fractional

what about irrational

[thin plover]

Hi. I moved the minecart on the BusStop map and added TileData to trigger its interaction in the new location. Can anyone point me in the direction of how to update where the minecart warps the player when it delivers them to the BusStop? Tried the DefaultWarpLocation map property, and that didn't seem to work...Haven't been able to reverse engineer it from any minecart mods either (yet).

[opaque cobalt]

what is the best way to check what sprites are in events? Finally getting around to giving Kent a dress uniform for weddings like events (Dress Blues always look snazzy). If I've asked before, I apologize, I do sometimes have a memory that is shorter than a goldfishes

[turbid grotto]

I think its just their normal sprite

and you add a condition like a when statement to change it for festivals and stuff

[rancid musk]

Data\Minecarts (https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Minecarts)

[dusk mulch]

What is the item ID for dried powdermelon? I cant find it in the spreadsheet.

[uncut viper]

why not just look in your unpack

[drowsy pewter]

all dried fruit have the id DriedFruit

[dusk mulch]

im lazy

[lucid iron]

well stop being lazy

[dusk mulch]

impossible

[lucid iron]

ctrl+f is free

[uncut viper]

i mean. in this case it was a different answer anyway. but otherwise that is literally just asking other people to do your work for you

[dusk mulch]

hm.

[calm nebula]

Hey button can you finish the rest of this run for me

[uncut viper]

run of what

[calm nebula]

And do my... I'm being told tomorrow is a rest day

Do my rest day for me tomorrow

[uncut viper]

wouldnt that give you more work

[calm nebula]

I'm only about 3km from home

[uncut viper]

ill take a rain check

[pine elbow]

can someone help me with a error i im having while making a seasonal outfits mod? i literally did everything to try to fix it but it still doesnt function

[drowsy pewter]

you should share the error when asking a question

[pine elbow]

i post a photo or the json?

[uncut viper]

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[uncut viper]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[acoustic summit]

beat me to it :p

[uncut viper]

use the links in these two commands to share both your log and your content.json (or 3whatever other json file is relevant)

[devout otter]

@uncut viper , unfortunately Spiderbuttons.BETAS_Action If Spiderbuttons.BETAS_PLAYER_MOD_DATA Current RacerGuyDialogue ## Spiderbuttons.BETAS_DialogueBox "Racer Guy" Mods\CentralStation\Tourists:RacerGuy.[Spiderbuttons.BETAS_PlayerModData RacerGuyDialogue] Portraits/DesertTrader_RacerGuy doesn't work .

https://smapi.io/log/214f65f3638f4b1f8744b7313879807a This the SMAPI log, might it be useful.

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home Single Language, with 8 C# mods and 1 content packs.

[uncut viper]

hmm

[devout otter]

I tested [Spiderbuttons.BETAS_PlayerModData RacerGuyDialogue] on its own and it does properly output 1, so mayhaps its just the format in the tile property that's wrong.

[uncut viper]

lemme do some testing rq

[pine elbow]

https://smapi.io/log/5fc57b35b1f241359623f4bcdaec09ed (sorry if reposting this is annoying)

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home Single Language, with 16 C# mods and 13 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[tender bloom]

hard to tell but what are the chances you're hitting the 256 character filepath limit?

i'm assuming this is only some of the images?

[pine elbow]

waiit what is that?

[tender bloom]

it's a super fun (super annoying) feature of windows

[pine elbow]

like a limit of space?

[tender bloom]

back in the old days, it was actually impossible, but these days it's an artificial limit for backwards compatibility

but bascially if you nest folders too deep, windows stops believing in the existence of the files in some cases

seasonal outfits\assets\Portraits\Undare_Brandon_summer.png is fairly long, and the stardew modding folder default location is already pretty long

which is what triggers my spidey senses here

it might not be the issue, but it's worth checking

[pine elbow]

i will try it, thanks for helping! youre so nice

[tender bloom]

the other question is whether this is all the images or just some

if it's just some, then figure out what the difference is between a working one and a broken one

ideally there will be some that are very similar to compare

[pine elbow]

all images 😭

[tender bloom]

ah...then it's probably a more fundamental problem

you'll need to share your json file and some details about how you structured your images in folders

[lucid iron]

rmbr to turn on file extensions

[uncut viper]

oh, can you try wrapping the Mods\\CentralStation\\Tourists:RacerGuy.[Spiderbuttons.BETAS_PlayerModData RacerGuyDialogue] part in quotes too?

so

Spiderbuttons.BETAS_Action If Spiderbuttons.BETAS_PLAYER_MOD_DATA Current RacerGuyDialogue ## Spiderbuttons.BETAS_DialogueBox \"Racer Guy\" \"Mods\\CentralStation\\Tourists:RacerGuy.[Spiderbuttons.BETAS_PlayerModData RacerGuyDialogue]\""

oh that looks ugly

[pine elbow]

Do you mind if I send the image and the json to your DM? I didn't want to bother by putting images repeatedly on the channel

[uncut viper]

i forgot that since If is a vanilla action, it doesnt know to even look for tokens, and so it splits it at the space between PlayerModData and RacerGuyDialogue

[devout otter]

Aa so the syntax probably thought RacerGuyDialogue] is a portrait asset.

[uncut viper]

yup, exactly

[tender bloom]

yeah unfortunately i might vanish any min and i don't like DMs

probably best to drop it here

[uncut viper]

(half of this channels purpose is helping people with their modding issues and bugs)

[pine elbow]

Okay! here is the json: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/fd8e12d24d4b407e9b51d7b03dfb528a and the image:

[midnight sand]

Question about ILCode:

I'm reading a string field and comparing it to a string I provide

I saved a String before with

new CodeInstruction(OpCodes.Ldstr, "Test"),
new CodeInstruction(OpCodes.Stloc_s, 10)

Then I want to compare it with

...
new CodeInstruction(OpCodes.Ldloc_S, 10), //Is "Test" here in theory
new CodeInstruction(OpCodes.Ldstr, "Test"),
new CodeInstruction(OpCodes.Call, stringCompareInfo)
...

with stringCompareInfo calling a function that is

internal void CompareStrings(string str1, string str2) {
    return str1.Equals(str2);
}

But it always returns false, but when I change it to

return (str1.Trim()).Equals(str2);

It works.
Why is the Trim() here needed if I inserted it without spaces or anything?

[devout otter]

You'd need to make the Target Load five separate things.

      "LogName": "Seasonal Portraits - Appearance Load",
      "Action": "Load",
      "Target": "Portraits/Undare_Brandon_Spring",
      "FromFile": "seasonal outfits/assets/Portraits/Undare_Brandon_Spring.png"
    },``` etc

[pine elbow]

i im so dumb for that i im so sorry😭

[calm nebula]

Store local, load arg?

[devout otter]

Also a screenshot of the contents of your Portraits folder would also be helpful!

[midnight sand]

I'm writing from memory so I fucked up xD, but it calls the correct one. Both are local

Fixed

[devout otter]

Okay that works! No the last hurdle...

This trigger action"RacerGuy.1": "{{i18n: tourist.desert-racer-man.1}}# Spiderbuttons.BETAS_WritePlayerModData RacerGuyDialogue 2", Doesn't seem to be firing.

[calm nebula]

Is it still like thar if you use the op_equality of str instead

[devout otter]

I do it like this and quite unsure if it's actually correct { "Action": "EditData", "Target": "Mods/CentralStation/Tourists", "Entries": { "RacerGuy.1": "{{i18n: tourist.desert-racer-man.1}}# Spiderbuttons.BETAS_WritePlayerModData RacerGuyDialogue 2", "RacerGuy.2": "{{i18n: tourist.desert-racer-man.2}}# Spiderbuttons.BETAS_RemovePlayerModData RacerGuyDialogue", } },

[gentle pebble]

Hey so im trying to research how to make cut scenes for heart events and honestly there doesnt seem to be alot of information on it. Does anyone know of a good location I looked on the stardew wiki and it didnt say too much.

[calm nebula]

Or change the call to a callvirr

[rigid oriole]

!makeevents

[ocean sail]

So you wanna make events?

The modding wiki Events category has multiple tutorials, guides, and tips from event masters like Arknir, Aviroen, SMC and more!

If any more are made, feel free to add them into this command!

To use this command, type !makeevents.

[rigid oriole]

The events for everyone tutorial is very in-depth

[gentle pebble]

amazing should have known to do that by now

[uncut viper]

you have to actually put the $action command!

[gentle pebble]

The governor is so convenient

[midnight sand]

op_equality is == no?
It says false anyways

with callvirt it also says false

only adding the Trim() works

[devout otter]

... Oh my poor, smooth brain...😔

[gentle pebble]

I was looking through and had a quick question

So to confirm you can not date a npc created only marry?

[midnight sand]

Checking it with char it is adding a space at the end for some reason? I'll check the code I'm modifying, maybe a space is added somewhere

[pine elbow]

sorry for posting this late, where i live there are times when the wifi turns off out of nowhere 😭

[pine elbow]

(the professor thing was for testing the indoor/outdoor thing)

[tribal ore]

Ummmmm... I want to set an event in a vanilla location that doesn't have a corresponding .json file?

BathHouse_Entry and BathHouse_MensLocker are both maps, but the only .json file in Data/Events is Bathhouse_Pool

I've only done Load actions for Events, like this:

    "Action": "EditData",
    "Target": "Data/Events/BathHouse_Pool", -- corresponds to the Beach.json file
    "Entries": {
     }
}```

Would a Load action work here instead?

... In a pinch I guess I could start the event at the Railroad and do a changeLocation, but I would really prefer not to take control away from the player until they are actually in the BathHouse :/

[uncut viper]

load a blank.json

with Low priority

[rigid musk]

how do you add your own context tags for furniture and stuff ... do you just list them at the end of the furniture and it counts as its own tag?

[uncut viper]

same way you'd load a blank.json for a dialogue file

[tribal ore]

I haven't done this at all 😦 I've only been editing existing resources, except in the case of Maps and audio

So I don't know how, sorry

[rigid musk]

        "Action": "Load",
        "Target": "Data/Events/SkullCave",
        "FromFile": "data/blank.json",
        "Priority": "Low"
        },```

something like this :3

[uncut viper]

inside the blank.json is literally just {}

thats the entire file

[rigid musk]

(you also need a json called 'blank.json' in your files for it to load to -with the afformentioned format from Button)

[uncut viper]

i mean, you CAN put event data in the file, but tokens wont work

[tribal ore]

Alright, I'll give that a try. And this will figure out how to link the vanilla map location if I do it that way?

[uncut viper]

also if someone loads a blank there with a higher priority yours wont

so you Shouldnt put the event data directly in there. but you technically could

making the asset name match a vanilla location just like you would for any other map that does have events will automatically make events work there

you load the blank and then do EditData on it afterwards

[rigid musk]

(also make sure to make an include for your blank.json)

[uncut viper]

you dont need an Include you can do it just in the content.json

or wherever else you're doing the EditData for the event

it doesnt need its own separate include

[rigid musk]

I thought you had to load it

[uncut viper]

Load, yes, Include, no

[rigid musk]

huh ... I dunno I mean what I did worked so B) I'm just going to pretend I did things right and hope that I did not, in fact, do them wrong

[uncut viper]

i am talking about "Action": "Include"

[rigid musk]

considering Qi works in my game I would have to wager a guess I might just be getting terminology mixed up again as im apt to do

[tribal ore]

Alright, so I only need an entry for my existing Events.json if I put the load in there? I don't have to mess with my content.json?

[rigid musk]

yeah I have mine done like that/using that... which I thought I had to do

[uncut viper]

somewhere in your mod you need to Load a blank.json for the map you want events in if it does not exist already

[uncut viper]

you do not have to put a blank.json inside an include. nothing ever has to go inside an Include, ever.

[rigid musk]

Or did I do that because now i cant see it in my includes

[uncut viper]

includes are entirely organizational. if you want you can put all your blank.json loads inside their own include. but you dont have to

[rigid musk]

(I do know you can put all of your stuff in the content json, i dont do that for organization purposes)

heehoo

[tribal ore]

Alright... Not 100% clear, but I'm going to try what I think I understood and see if things break

[rigid musk]

looks like i did not, in fact, do an include for the blank.json (but i did load things to it)

[rigid musk]

all you need to do is make sure you load the location using the blank.json (like the example I showed) and then, you do your edit data for the events :3 (and make sure you have the blank.json formatted as Button mentioned)

[rigid musk]

Does anyone know anything in regards to this

[uncut viper]

you can pretty much copy Lily's snippet up there entirely but replace SkullCave with BathHouse_Entry or whatever

[rigid musk]

^

[tribal ore]

Omigosh, it worked!!!

Thank you both so much 😄

[thin plover]

Thanks. Apparently I had tunnel vision and only ever looked at the Maps modding page.

[remote radish]

I am making a custom farm map. How do I reference the image, that is in the TerrainFeatures when unpacked, or should I move the image to my map folder? I want to use the stone walkway in my map.

[lucid iron]

you have 2 options i think

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/30001

this mod just let you get tilesheets not in Maps

the othe option is spacecore spawning to put actual stone walkways on your map

[tribal ore]

Also, holy crap my custom audio is playing in an event and I am cooking today

Just needed to celebrate xD It's been an all day thing for me

[rigid musk]

[gentle rose]

hey smart modding people, how multi-threaded is stardew? I kind of assumed it was relatively single-threaded

[uncut viper]

very not

[gentle rose]

yeah, figures

how likely do we think it is to max out usage on 2 cores

[uncut viper]

how hard are you trying

[gentle rose]

mid-level hard I think

[uncut viper]

ah, well in that case, I can confidently say that i don't know

[lucid iron]

u can thread if u want

[uncut viper]

i don't have the smarts to comment in this area further

[lucid iron]

theres just not a lot of useful things u can do cus drawing and reading content pipeline are both hard banned

[unkempt beacon]

Is it appropriate for me to ask here if someone could convert a .xnb to a .json for me?

[gentle rose]

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[gentle rose]

this is how you get them converted. iirc there’s also a website that does individual ones

[uncut viper]

dont think you'd be very allowed to just send an xnb from the game in here as that would be redistributing the games files

just a guess

[gentle rose]

that was my guess too

[acoustic summit]

https://lybell-art.github.io/xnb-js/ use this, real ez pz 🙂

[unkempt beacon]

Thank you everyone!

[final arch]

on some prozessors sdv swaps constantly between 2 cores and maxes them out and loading takes like +30min, its super rare tho

pinning it to a particular core in the task manager fixes that

[rancid musk]

Windows' scheduler sure is fun and good

[gentle rose]

in this person's case it seems that pinning it didn't help much, but I'm honestly not sure why...

[shut edge]

attempting to learn to do config options

how would i change what an animal produces by config?

like can i use the condition field or will i need a whole new animal block with whens on both?

[mighty ginkgo]

you could use a dynamic token that contains the produce string/other value that needs to change and that changes value depending on the config value probably

really depends on what needs to change in the patch

[shut edge]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/80efa78b893d42a1a9a7dfee62c8d47a

here's where i'm at now

really just need to change the line 65 produce bit

have not tested it at all yet tho

[mighty ginkgo]

line 65? it shows "MinimumFriendship": 0, to me

[shut edge]

that produce block

just want to toggle between two item choices for these to make

[mighty ginkgo]

ah okay. then i think you could use a dynamic token, say call it Produce, and change its value based on the config option. so you'd have a "ItemID": "{{Produce}}" instead of "ItemID": "{{ModId}}_GumdropCandy" and so on

(and a DynamicToken section that sets the token up https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/tokens.md#dynamic-tokens)

[shut edge]

ok, thank you

have not done those yet

i'll read up

[shut edge]

anyone having issues with the captcha for loggin in to nexus?

[vernal rain]

hey does anyone know what should i name the lewis statue for at? ><

[abstract pine]

@woeful lintel sprite-sheet link is broken in https://github.com/Leroymilo/USJB/blob/main/TODO.md#craftables

[woeful lintel]

should be fixed now

[shut edge]

Thanks for the assist, Kristian

[abstract pine]

have you thought about using these for the statues? (same author) https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/3536?tab=description

[woeful lintel]

those are already in the mod!

[rigid musk]

How do you put images in the description of your mod page?

[woeful lintel]

I just have hyperlinks to images and gifs on my github repo

[twin blade]

hey yall i have this one thing i want in stardew valley and dont know if it even is possible, so might aswell ask here since the smart people type here. is there a way to stop grass from spreading and stop trees from dropping seeds to the ground around them?
surely there is something you can tweak in the files to make it stop?

[blissful panther]

Simply enough! Just the [img][/img] tags. Can even do GIFS.

(...wait, I now realise you mean the preview Discord pulls. Nevermind, ignore me. )

[rigid musk]

No no I mean on Nexus

It won't let me add any images though, they all show up as little file things

[blissful panther]

That definitely should work!

[latent mauve]

Just to be absolutely clear: you have to have the images hosted somewhere first (like imgur)

Also don't use discord image links because those break after 24 hours now D:

[rigid musk]

Yeah I uploaded them to Imgur ... do I have to make them public? (I did try to make them public but that kept giving me the same issue, but maybe I have to wait)

[blissful panther]

It'll also have to be the direct direct link to the image ending with .jpg or .png or whatever it is. Not just the link to the Imgur page.

That might be the problem!

[rigid musk]

O: let me try that thank you

[woeful lintel]

are you entering a link to an image?

oh sorry, discord didn't scroll

[mighty ginkgo]

i don't know about trees, but grass spread seems to be controlled by a map property so it should be easy to edit with content patcher even https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps#Plants.2C_forage.2C_.26_item_spawning

[rigid musk]

It worked thank you guys :D

[winter dust]

Are there any listed guides for custom clothing? I don't see any sprite guides.

[lucid iron]

Like non fashion sense right

[winter dust]

Like, Garden Village used a massive sprite for pants with JsonAssets.

I wanna know if that's still necessary.

[twin blade]

ive never modded anything so im completely clueless... is there a video to follow or if its not too much to ask for, could you do it ?

[fossil osprey]

Pants are cursed

[winter dust]

Can we classify Pants as eldritch beings in disguise on the wiki?

[fossil osprey]

yes

[lucid iron]

Yes you need all these walk frames

[winter dust]

[little prairie]

hello im trying to convert PMF mod to a CP mod is there any documentation on that?

[winter dust]

Did you mean PFM? Producer Framework Mod?

[unreal spoke]

!converters
I’m pretty sure there’s a PFM -> CP one in there.

[ocean sail]

A lot of converter tools have been made by helpful members of the community to update outdated mods or convert existing mods to modern or alternative frameworks, and for 1.6. Here's a list:

• Convert XNB mods to Content Patcher
• Convert pants/skirt spritesheets to Fashion Sense
• Convert Custom Furniture mods to DGA/1.6 Content Patcher
• Convert visual Content Patcher mods to Alternative Textures
• Convert BFAV mods to work with 1.6 Content Patcher
• Convert TMXLoader mods to 1.6 Content Patcher
• Convert Custom Music mods to 1.6 Content Patcher
• Convert Shop Tile Framework mods to 1.6 Content Patcher
• Convert hair spritesheets and JSON Assets shirts & hats to Fashion Sense
• Convert regular Content Patcher to i18n format
• Convert JSON Assets to Content Patcher
• Convert fish data from field names to slash delimited values
• Convert markdown text to Nexus' bbcode
• Convert Custom Ore Nodes and Custom Resource Clumps mods to Item Extensions Framework
• Convert Content Patcher Animations to SpaceCore
• Convert More than Necessary to Content Patcher
• Convert SAAT to Content Patcher

To use this command, type !converters.

[winter dust]

There isn't.

[unreal spoke]

… or not.

[winter dust]

If you search up converters in discord search you'll see one of those outputs in the search entries and yeah, it's not there.

[lucid iron]

How you convert depends on what rules it got

[vernal crest]

So far I've learned to convert one thing to CP (it's AT) and I learned by just figuring out how to make the thing in CP and then looking at the other thing and pulling over the bits that matched up.

Easier than learning how to use a converter imo lol

Mostly because the converters all seem to be python and I haven't looked at python in nearly four years now.

[hard fern]

Honestly i get a little annoyed by the converters bc i like to do everything a certain way 😅

[calm nebula]

🐍

[hard fern]

My perfectly organized folders, now thrown into chaos..

[mighty ginkgo]

i don't know if there's a video, but i guess the content.json file would look something like this { "Format": "2.5.0", "Changes": [ { "Action": "EditMap", "Target": "Maps/MapNameHere", "MapProperties": { "EnableGrassSpread": null } }, ] }. you'd still need some work to make it a working Content Patcher content pack, there are probably tutorials around but i'm not sure where. however here is the wiki page for introduction to content patcher https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Content_Patcher

[signal needle]

@ivory plume Have you seen this? #1337337589983744051 I'm not sure if it's an issue with SMAPI or with SDV, but I suspect it's due to a glibc update around that time. I'm not sure anything fancier needs doing than rebuilding on that version

[ivory plume]

Yep. I'm not the one who'd usually look into multiplayer issues like that, but it's being discussed internally.

[proud wyvern]

what is up with that glibc update, how did someone let that version out, breaking so much software

i've also heard MonoMod/Harmony was affected

[signal needle]

It's not a bad update per say, it's the nature of glibc, this happens everytime they update. So much stuff is linked against it that when they make changes something somewhere is relying on it

[little prairie]

Thank you all for trying to help I’ll see what I can do to do it on my own thank you again

[astral prism]

ugh oml i still can't figure this out

so i want to add dialogue to the end of EVERY NPC's daily dialogue

how on earth can i do that

cause CurrentDialogue is a stack, not a queue or list

[blissful panther]

Could maybe try the asset pipeline's editing functionality?

Edit each dialogue data as it's loaded and just slap whatever you need on the end of each dialogue key value?

Doesn't feel like the least fragile way, though...

[astral prism]

hm

potentially

i think i might try like

check every tick if the CurrentDialogue is null (meaning all dialogue has been exhausted) and if it is just slap mine on

[reef kiln]

If two mods edit the same map, can I make a TMX that combine the two maps then replace one in one of the folders and just delete the other from the 2nd mod? So both mods can run together? Or is it more complicated then that?

Right now neither map loads as SMAPI throws an error

[devout otter]

You'd want to add a Priority field to the map Loads in both mods.

[reef kiln]

I think they have one already, that is the SMAPI error. Both have priority exclusive. So neither loads

[ivory plume]

Each asset can only have one initial version loaded. The Priority field lets SMAPI / Content Patcher pick one (unless they're both exclusive), but it won't let you somehow load both versions simultaneously.

So your options are:

• Manually merge the maps yourself as you suggested.
• Ask the authors to use EditMap if possible, instead of loading the entire map.

[brittle ledge]

@royal stump Hi Esca, I'm still experiencing issues with my FTM-spawned machines despawning overnight. I've tried setting DaysUntilSpawnsExpire to null and 0 and neither are consistently sticking. Should I try an absurdly high number like 9999 to get it to stick?

[tribal ore]

Can you set a mail flag and then use a trigger action to refresh the variable periodically?

[brittle ledge]

I have no idea to be honest this is my first foray into FTM and I'm trying to do something I haven't really seen other mods do

[reef kiln]

If I manually merge them, which will be easy as they both make changes that don't conflict. What i was wondering is if I can just delete the copy I don't edit to fix the problem? Or is there something someplace else I need to edit?

[unique sigil]

tia it's weird that that issue still exists, because it definitely doesnt on mine

though it could be because i directly edited your FTM files while looking for the solution, instead of downloading the version you uploaded on nexus

[tribal ore]

.Choose Letters Events Map Dialogue

[patent lance]

Choose result: Letters Events Map Dialogue

[tribal ore]

Hmmm

[unique sigil]

you should separate each item with commas!

[tribal ore]

.Choose Letters, Events, Map, Dialogue?

[patent lance]

Choose result: Map

[tribal ore]

thanks 🙂

[calm nebula]

Do it alllll

Morning, Pathos!

[tribal ore]

Going to do it all! Just... need to do one today

[gentle rose]

discorddddd why do you do this to me

[ivory plume]

If it's a Content Patcher pack, you may need to edit the content.json (or included file) for the other mod to remove its "Action": "Load" patch. (And if they're both making regular edits, I suggest asking the mod authors to use EditData instead.)

[brittle ledge]

I basically did what you said, it shouldn't be different

[reef kiln]

Oh ok. I can do that. Thanks

[royal stump]

Any of those options should prevent despawning, but if you want a machine's state to persist, use null. 0 will make it last forever, but any number will cause objects to despawn overnight (and/or during quicksaves) and reappear afterward, without contents/etc being saved. null just means FTM won't touch it anymore after spawning, so it should just stay there unless some other game mechanic removes it.

if you have a link or upload, I can try it out and see if it's having an issue, but in theory it shouldn't just disappear either way

[brittle ledge]

it's this one if you'd like to look! https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/30997

I originally had it as null but I got reports it was despawning, and it did in my testing as well.

[royal stump]

can you describe how you tested it when it despawned? it's persisting as-is through several days on a new save, at least

[unique sigil]

okay so the initial despawning happened on my save, when LFL was first out. i installed it midway through a save. the LFL spawned correctly, but i did not use it on the day i loaded the save after the mod was installed. the next day, the LFL despawned. i thought it was because there's a schedule for it to appear, but days pass and it's still gone

so i went into the files, set LimitedNumberofSpawns to 2, and DaysUntilSpawnExpire to 0 instead of null. upon loading the save, the LFL respawned, and has not despawned. but tia is still getting reports of it despawning after my suggestion to change DaysUntilSpawnExpire to 0 in the fix.

i also had some initial suspicions that it might have despawned due to SVE's town map edits, but i checked the map files and the tile the LFL spawns in is blank.

[royal stump]

Thanks, I'll keep poking around. I just found an issue where it's not restoring the "can be picked up" flag correctly for some reason, so I may need to fix a few things...

[unique sigil]

oh yeah, i'd like to add that after making those changes, i specifically waited until one in game day has passed without using the LFL (because the first despawning happened after i didnt use it) to see if it despawns or not

[hallow prism]

writing a letter for Central Station support and having fun :
Reach your destination in no time with our company!

[stoic maple]

hii im struggling with a small mod im working on, and i cant find any way to fix it

[cyan herald]

what mod is it?

[stoic maple]

its one where im trying to add deatils on alex

its a really small project because im just starting in modding

[cyan herald]

i don’t think i can help, i mistook your question and thought you needed an already made mod to work sorry but someone here probably could

[stoic maple]

aaa yeah sorry i should have explained better

tho i used a mod to look at the content files and copied past most of the stuff i needed

but i dont get anything bc i basically never used coding

the issue is that i modified some of the characters images and smappy says the mods works

but i the game when i launch it alex is the exact same without my modifications

[rare orbit]

hey! anyone willing to test out a mod im trying to make? it's a simple replacer mod for sebastian's beach sprite

[tiny zealot]

!json if you are willing to share your content.json (by uploading it at this link and pasting the URL here), then we can look at it and help you identify what's wrong

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[wanton pebble]

!log also

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[stoic maple]

okay so heres the link i hope i did things well: https://smapi.io/json/none/dbb4178dad144e6f9c3cc7e03dbaf76f

[wanton pebble]

You did. Still probably need the log if it isn't showing up

[stoic maple]

the log?

sorry english isnt my first language

[tiny zealot]

one thing is that it looks like you wanted to use "Target": "Characters/Alex_Winter" on line 39

[cosmic thorn]

can someone remind me how to make a custom shop?

i havent read the update list, so i dunno if is there smth new

[tiny zealot]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Shops add an entry to Data/Shops

[cosmic thorn]

thx

[stoic maple]

thankss

[wanton pebble]

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[wanton pebble]

Grab it after you're in game and loaded your file

[royal stump]

(cc @unique sigil) So far, the only reason I can find that the LFL might disappear is if an NPC walks through its tile, which destroys it. If anybody can reliably reproduce the despawn, let me know and I'll try it on my end.

In the mean time:

• You can use "LimitedNumberOfSpawns": null to let the LFL respawn overnight if it ever disappears. It won't prevent book loss if that happens, but it'll make a new LFL if the tile is empty.
• Making the tile beneath the LFL impassable to NPCs should protect it, in case that's ever an issue. You might need to use"StrictTileChecking": "Low" to allow the LFL to spawn there afterward.
• Both"DaysUntilSpawnsExpire": null and 0 should work the same way for machines. However, changing from 0 to null will undo the "can't be picked up" setting for machines that have already spawned, so I'd recommend just leaving that as-is.

[unique sigil]

oh hey @brittle ledge, here's some solutions!

(also, im detailing the despawning thing for tia, LFL isnt my mod after all, i just remember the exact circumstance of the initial despawning. thanks esca! )

[royal stump]

(I guess that tile's supposed to be safe in 1.6 based on someone's tests on reddit NPCs are just the only potential cause I can find yet)

[rare orbit]

thank god non destructive npcs mod exists ;w;

[calm nebula]

What if you made specific items not destroyed

[brittle ledge]

thank you! I'll patch all this in! (Sorry to disappear on you, work called)

remind me in 4 hours to do that

[patent lance]

i've waited my whole LIFE for you to ask, tiakall. so yes, the answer is yes I'll remind you!! (#6517547) (4h | <t:1738970011>)

[brittle ledge]

good bot

[royal stump]

the logic for that is messy enough that I'd rather force the burden onto pack authors

I think I see where I'd need to patch for that, but there might be multiple states involved ("do frustration emote + speed up" vs "just silently explode objects in the way")

...the logic is also copy-pasted for each facing direction

[rare orbit]

btw? for the deepwoods mod? when asking permission for making alt portraits who should i contact? the original mod author or the person who made the portraits?

[brittle ledge]

Why not both?

[rare orbit]

ahh i am trying to contact the author but i am having hell doin it since they don't seem to be accepting messages on nexus.

i'll have to find the person who made max's portraits for deepwoods mod

hopefully they have a social media platform i use ;w;

[cosmic thorn]

if i need more then one addon/plugin in ContentPackFor (manifest) how do i do ?

[brittle ledge]

you can only do one ContentPackFor, if you're doing a mod that has a CP and an FTM portion (for example), they have to be in two separate folders with two separate manifests

[cosmic thorn]

then how sould i connect the ShopTileFramework?

[royal stump]

you'd basically make a pack for each mod, then put them in a main folder; for example, inside Little Free Library's folder you download, it has these

[lucid iron]

You don't need shop tile framework

[cosmic thorn]

do i?

[lucid iron]

Data/Shops very powerful

Tell us your goal

[cosmic thorn]

Im trying to make an NPCs shop and connect it to tile with time and stuff

[lucid iron]

Yep don't need STF

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Shops

[cosmic thorn]

can i get example somewhere for new system?

[lucid iron]

First add a new shop here

[cosmic thorn]

yeah but i didnt really get the new system...

[tender bloom]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Content_Patcher_Snippets_for_1.6#Adding_a_Basic_New_Shop

[lucid iron]

Then add Action OpenShop to a map somewhere

https://github.com/Mushymato/TrinketTinker/blob/main/[CP] Sinister Servants/data/angry_roger_shop.json

Here's a example

[cosmic thorn]

thx

[lucid iron]

Elizabeth guide is pretty better

[cosmic thorn]

oh there is nothing about the schedule like when its open and stuff

[lucid iron]

This shop isn't associated with a real npc, for that you need the last 4 arguments of OpenShop

[rare orbit]

ok! got the green light from the mod dev!

[lucid iron]

Whcih defines a rectangle

[cosmic thorn]

i see

[lucid iron]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps

Ctrl f OpenShop in here

[cosmic thorn]

oh yeah i remember this thing

[lucid iron]

It makes it so that the npc need to exist in the rectangle b4 u can open shop

[lunar dawn]

hi. im currently trying to create an upgraded version of one of my mods. i want the two of them to be compatible with each other, but i don't want them to have dependencies on each other. the new mod adds a higher tier of produce from the last one, but it also keeps the same produce as the original. I have different animals digging up the original produce, but only the new animals dig up the new produce. i wanted to amend this by creating a machine for the old mod that can turn the old produce into the new produce. my issue is that im not sure exactly how i can achieve this without the two mods conflicting with each other for having the same item IDs. I have given the original produce item IDs an indicator within the content file that would make them not conflict with each other, but left their display names in game as the same. would this be enough to prevent them from conflicting, and would they also stack with each other if they have the same in game name? or would the game not stack them because their item IDs designate them as different?

[tender bloom]

My advice would be to make them make the actually same item but disable the produce add stuff conditionally in the “advanced” one

Basically for any item, make it match between the two but have the basic mod control it when they’re both installed

[lunar dawn]

that would still make the advanced one depend on the original right? i guess it might not be such a bad solution

i think im making it more convoluted than it needs to be lol

[tender bloom]

It won’t depend on it

It can just check if it is installed or not

To decide whether to load the stuff that would be duplictaes

With a When condition and HasMod

[lunar dawn]

is making it conditional something that would require knowledge of C# or is that something that's a native function to stuff i can put in the content file? because i dont know a thing about c# despite my efforts

[tender bloom]

No that’s a Content Patcher feature

Look at the content patcher docs about When conditions

[lunar dawn]

where can i find the content patcher docs i was looking around on the wiki

oh i might have found it hang on

[uncut viper]

have you tried the content patcher nexus page

[lunar dawn]

i found this page but it's not going into much detail about all the fields I can use https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/conditions-api.md

i can see the when field but nothing about hasmod and how to use it

[hallow prism]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/tokens.md#overview

[lunar dawn]

oh i think this helps thanks

[cosmic thorn]

guys what differences between .tbin and .tmx

[lucid iron]

tmx is a xml format

[ivory plume]

(See map formats on the maps wiki page.)

[lucid iron]

You can open it up as text and it support thing like rotating tiles

Usually recommend over tbin

[cosmic thorn]

so if ill load as tbin its still okay?

[lucid iron]

It's ok not gonna explode

[rare orbit]

so when say making alt portraits for mods how do i verify it targets the right assets?

[cosmic thorn]

xd got it

[rare orbit]

makin portraits for deepwoods and i got the green light from both max n the mod author for the farmer portraits nyapu style

but i don't really like replacing files if i can avoid it so it'll be a non replacer

[tribal ore]

.Choose Config, Letters, Dialogue, Events

[patent lance]

Choose result: Events

[tribal ore]

... sigh

[hard fern]

It be like that sometimes

[cosmic thorn]

damn... goodluck

[tribal ore]

Thanks. I've just done a lot of events and am tired xD

[cosmic thorn]

xd

[wanton pebble]

Okay, that does it

Do people ever get a result from maru's that isn't the last one?

[tribal ore]

Hmmmm. We can test

.Choose one, two, three, four, five, six, seven

[patent lance]

Choose result: seven

[calm nebula]

.choose live, die

[patent lance]

Choose result: live

[tribal ore]

.Choose one, two, three, four, five, six, seven

[patent lance]

Choose result: one

[tribal ore]

Yeah

[wanton pebble]

Hmmm

[tribal ore]

.Choose one, two, three, four, five, six, seven

[patent lance]

Choose result: six

[tribal ore]

.Choose one, two, three, four, five, six, seven

[patent lance]

Choose result: six

[tribal ore]

.Choose one, two, three, four, five, six, seven

[patent lance]

Choose result: one

[uncut viper]

why test in here

[tribal ore]

! oops

[wanton pebble]

Okay I did mine In Gov's mansion

[tribal ore]

Sry 😦

[wanton pebble]

Anywho. I've seen it pick the last so often I got concerned

Seeing it happen there for some reason was the straw that broke the camel's back

[brittle ledge]

if it helps, events is what I have left to do on my mod and I too wish to avoid them )

[tribal ore]

fist bump in solidarity

For what it's worth, the Events are actually my favorite part of what I've done. I'm extremely proud of some of the things I've been able to do. They just... take a long time to debug

I have this really cute branching date event with location changes and everything ^_^

[wanton pebble]

Ahhhh date location changes and choices... they are quite nice to make

.... right up until you prototype them and go "oh God, time to do this part for the 1000th time"

[tribal ore]

YES

[wanton pebble]

Event tester with fast forward my beloved

[latent mauve]

in case nobody answered you: check what deepwoods loads for the portrait targets in their content file

You just need your Target to match for your portrait mod

[rare orbit]

cool cool!

thank you!

i'll give it a go now!

oh boy...

i cannot find the file for it.

i dunno if deepwoods has a content file ;-;

[latent mauve]

Ah, then Deepwoods doesn't have a CP component. I... don't really know how to find the assets in C# mods as far as figuring out how they've been added to the content pipeline.

Somebody that's used to C# land might be able to offer guidance maybe?

I didn't even realize DeepWoods had portraits tbh, and I'm not sure how the farmer portraits are done

[gentle rose]

are you looking for the asset names?

[latent mauve]

yeah, they need to know what to target for their nyapu style portraits, ideally

[gentle rose]

is deep woods open/accessible source by any chance? if not I'll download and decompile

[latent mauve]

there's a github link for it: https://github.com/maxvollmer/DeepWoodsMod

Assuming that's the right one, Nikki?

[gentle rose]

strange, the part for loading the portrait asset is commented out

[latent mauve]

hmm

[gentle rose]

I'll have a look on my laptop instead of my phone though

[latent mauve]

@rare orbit hey, can you clarify which portraits you're trying to replace, just so we're on the same page?

[rare orbit]

the portraits for max

[gentle rose]

everything to do with the portrait is commented out in the source code...

strange

[rare orbit]

sorry... i am still a beginner ;-;

and i wanna make sure i do not mess this up

[gentle rose]

don't worry, I'm talking about the deep woods mod, not you. Are there currently any portraits for max in the latest version?

[rare orbit]

there is! just one set tho

[gentle rose]

then the latest version is different to the github version. I'll have a look and see

[rare orbit]

i already got the greenlight from both max, the author of deepwoods, and jupm, author of nyapu's farmer styled portraits

they have it on nexus as well

[gentle rose]

this is the portrait you're trying to replace, right?

[rare orbit]

yup!

wanna make em a non replacer! so that if anyone wants to revert back to the original it's as simple as uninstalling it!

i am 50/50 with replacers but i can understand that they can be frustrating

[teal bridge]

Content Patcher mods always work like that - despite being called "replacer" it's not actually overwriting any game assets on disk.

[rare orbit]

ahh

[teal bridge]

For clarification, even if Deep Woods isn't a CP mod, you can still use CP to replace the portraits as long as the mod is opted into the asset pipeline. Which it probably is despite the weird commented out code. I'd try making the patch on the assumption that the commented code is actually live, using those same asset names, and see if it works.

[rare orbit]

ahhh ok!

i'll try that real quick

[teal bridge]

Which according to what we see is Portraits/DeepWoodsMax

[gentle rose]

I was going on that assumption too, but the decompile shows those commented out sections aren't there either

so honestly I'm confused how the game is even showing a portrait in the first place

[gentle rose]

just to clarify, you are able to see these portraits in the game using the latest version of deep woods, right?

[rare orbit]

idk yet ;-; i haven't made it far enough to tell...

ffffffff i probably should've check..

[gentle rose]

...I have a feeling the portraits may not be in the game at all right now

[rare orbit]

i feel kinda dumb ;-;

[gentle rose]

it's okay, it happens, just worth checking next time

if there's a way to cheat to the npc or something, you should do that and check

[rare orbit]

lemme check now ;-;

[gentle rose]

assuming the npc is even in the game

[ornate trellis]

i am not too sure the npc is ready yet? last time I checked it had a basic schedule to just exist in the house but I never saw em there

[rare orbit]

i totally went to school ;w;

[rancid musk]

Based on a quick look at Deep Woods' latest DLL I don't think it's adding any NPCs

[rare orbit]

huh

[gentle rose]

it looks to me like it might not be

[rare orbit]

interesting

[rancid musk]

The methods to edit NPC data are stubs

[teal bridge]

Yeah, I looked at git blame and the code has been commented out for 3 years.

[gentle rose]

thanks for confirming, I thought so but couldn't be sure I wasn't missing something!

[teal bridge]

The portrait asset is there but it's unused.

[rare orbit]

i think it's in alpha rn

but i am not sure

[teal bridge]

Yes, the alpha is what we just looked at.

[rare orbit]

so should i still upload the files??

[ornate trellis]

DeepWoods it's still in bigtime development, yeah

[gentle rose]

you can, but there's nothing to replace if there's no npc

[rare orbit]

cool cool ;w;

[ornate trellis]

since you got the ok of max you can also just ask em?

[teal bridge]

I'd keep in mind that the author may change any of this stuff in the meantime.

[rare orbit]

i did! they said it's cool

[teal bridge]

After all, CA changed the names of a bunch of NPCs before launch.

[ornate trellis]

looks at Willy

[rancid musk]

(Now back to my trying to construct a mod collection after a weird friend of mine suggested we actually play the game)

[rare orbit]

i'll likely still upload since i am proud how the images came out owo

[teal bridge]

What I mean is, the author may not mind you doing these edits but that doesn't mean your edits won't be invalidated by some decision the author makes in a few months' time. That's the thing about alphas, you just have to be prepared for things to break.

[rare orbit]

ahhh

[teal bridge]

But certainly there's no problem with releasing it anyway. It just won't do anything. (In the game, that is)

[tawny ore]

play... the game... what?

[rancid musk]

I know, it doesn't make sense. But apparently that's a thing you can do???

[tawny ore]

You mean this, right?

[drowsy pewter]

I think if you release it it's going to make a lot of people think that theres an npc in deepwoods lmaoo

[rancid musk]

You'd think so, but... apparently Steam can launch Stardew also and not just download it? Wild stuff

[tawny ore]

I can only focus on one "play" at a time, and I'm still working on my Minecraft 1.21.4 world

[rancid musk]

What am I supposed to do when something happens and I don't have a debugger attached

[tawny ore]

I mean you could just play with debugger attached

https://tenor.com/view/we-will-do-it-live-do-it-live-angry-anchorman-anchorman-gif-9159361

[rancid musk]

lol

[tawny ore]

Imagine just changing the game mid playthrough

I don't even play with my own mods because it becomes too distracting

[rancid musk]

I have a hankering to play Minecraft, but absolutely zero of the friends I play games with want to play. Enshrouded scratched the itch a little, but it is not the same.

[tawny ore]

As I'm playing I end up thinking more about modding. Or if I encounter an issue I want to fix it right away.

[calm nebula]

Make more friends

[teal bridge]

Playing with debugger attached runs fine for me as long as I don't open Stardew Progress.

I play like that fairly often.

[tawny ore]

This was my modlist for my most recent playthrough

i.e. the mods that I can't live without

[teal bridge]

Plus it skips GOG Galaxy's obnoxiously slow impossible-to-disable cloud sync thing, so sometimes I'll run from Visual Studio even if I'm not planning to debug anything.

(I still don't get the appeal of Visible Fish, no disrespect to the author.)

[tawny ore]

To me it's aesthetically appealing

[lucid iron]

I like when the squid goes swooce across the deck

[tawny ore]

I don't use it as a point of reference for what I can catch. I just like how it looks.

[lucid iron]

No idea why it's bugged like this hope it never gets fixed

[teal bridge]

Ah, ok. That makes sense, though I wouldn't have put a purely aesthetic mod down as essential.

[tawny ore]

I only use CJB Cheats to make the default walking speed 2x

1x just doesn't feel right to me

[teal bridge]

The only can't-live-without-it aesthetic mod for me is high vis fertilizer.

Because the default fertilizer sprites are, let's be honest, fertilizer.

[rancid musk]

I wrote a mod that makes me faster when I hold a button. Definitely agree the default walking speed is not enough.

[tawny ore]

I used to use the mod that made paths give you a speed boost

[gentle rose]

matt is everything okay. are you being held captive. what's going on

[tawny ore]

I felt like that was a nice compromise

[gentle rose]

playing the game? weird

[tawny ore]

Oh no I'm not playing. This is from my March 2024 playthrough.

That's when I played all of the new content.

[gentle rose]

I got worried for a second

[tawny ore]

I haven't done a 1.6.9+ run yet so I'm due for a new one

Plus some newer mods I have my eyes on

This is what's occupying my life right now

[gentle rose]

I assume that includes all three boncher mods of course

[rancid musk]

Matt are you TNT duping

[gentle rose]

I think I've played like 30 minutes total of minecraft ever and it was like ten years ago

[tawny ore]

Of course 🙂

[rancid musk]

Whatever lod mod you're using looks wild, lol

[tawny ore]

My latest creation (last I'll share before I get bonched)

This is bluemaps

I can navigate my world using its GL rendering in a browser

Now that I've got infinite Shulkers, my next project is to revamp my storage system

A lot of my mod ideas are things I encounter in Minecraft that I'm like, it would be nice if I could do this in SDV

[rancid musk]

I still want to make an april fools day edition of Better Crafting that introduces a Minecraft crafting grid, lol

[tawny ore]

Actually, I encountered the opposite the other day. In minecraft I was like, I wish I could cycle my hotbar like in SDV, and apparently no actively supported mod exists which does that.

[gentle rose]

that's a lot of work for an april fools mod

[rancid musk]

Right?

[tawny ore]

A lot of work for an april fools mod is the secret competition that we're all in

Casey made content code as a joke

And aeden made the bug fix joke

I think Casey is the "winner" for April Fools with this one
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/21513

[calm nebula]

Speak for yourself

I'm never gonna do an April fools joke

[lucid iron]

Spenny

[tawny ore]

Spenny isn't a joke. It's a legitimate high quality, must-have, mod.

[teal bridge]

Incidentally, Matt, I can't help noticing that your own mods aren't on your essential mods list.

[lucid iron]

If you reveal your joke then it's no longer suitable april 1 material

[tawny ore]

This wasn't a joke, I don't play with my mods

[rancid musk]

I'd probably need to do like... a 5x5 grid instead of 3x3 because a lot of recipes have more than 9 ingredients. 25 seems like a better limit.

[tawny ore]

While I'm playing with my own mods, I get into developer mode and I can't enjoy playing as much

[rancid musk]

Or just have it take from everything in a stack, but that is less Minecraft-y

[tawny ore]

My wife gets annoyed when I ask her to save and close for a minute so that I can quickly fix a bug

[teal bridge]

Missed that comment earlier.

Well, since mine have zero bugs and are perfect in every way, I'm proud to list them all on my essentials.

[tawny ore]

And then I'm like "Okay here, install this, log back in and try again. Is it still happening?"

[hard fern]

Ive made a handful of mods i use in-game that ive never released bc they're so low effort

[lucid iron]

My debug mod list is like 70 long cus i keep making mods that make no sense without at least some relevant content mods

[cosmic thorn]

what if texure for an item will be bigger then 16x16?

[lucid iron]

Then u see 16x16 slice of it

You need scale up 2 or spacecore hd tex to bypass

[cosmic thorn]

nah im asking what will happen

[teal bridge]

(in all seriousness though, I cannot play the game without my own gamepad mod, the vanilla gamepad controls belong in a museum)

[lucid iron]

Then u see 16x16 slice of it

[cosmic thorn]

oh i didnt see

sorry

[tawny ore]

I have 70 mods I use for debugging currently. Anytime there's a specific compatibility consideration, I add it to that list.

[rancid musk]

You seem to have misspelled recycling bin.

The vanilla controls are oof, lol

[teal bridge]

Yes, but I was trying to be polite this time.

[tawny ore]

Admittedly, I avoid playing anything with a controller. I only have a controller for the purpose of testing.

[hard fern]

At least recycling is beneficial

[lucid iron]

So wait what is the <mod where all the mods register actions and icons> for star control/iconic framework

[tawny ore]

Button was going to do something, I think

[rancid musk]

Hmm, I guess I will have to drain multiple items from a single slot with my april fools thing. Like, a preserves jar takes 98 input items. I am not making a 10x10 crafting grid lol

[teal bridge]

I make every effort to avoid mouse and keyboard controls, there are only a few PC games I'm willing to play without a gamepad and they're mostly older.

[tawny ore]

Would it be cruel if for April Fools I relaunch the mod page for Better Chests, only it's now Worse Chests?

[lucid iron]

Mediocre Chests

[hard fern]

What will you do to it? Or will the joke be in name alone

[tawny ore]

Because I'm really tempted to do that, but I feel like it may actually make some people angry

[teal bridge]

Well, now I have my own API for that, but if another mod comes out as a go-between, I won't be upset.

[tawny ore]

I will legitimately do the opposite of QOL

[hard fern]

RQOL- reduced quality of life

[teal bridge]

Worse Chests makes all regular chests the same size and have the same user interface as a Junimo chest (but without the use-anywhere property).

[hard fern]

Random chance of a chest eating an item as a snack every night

[tawny ore]

Or. They all use the same global inventory.

you get 3x3 storage slots across every chest

[teal bridge]

Ok, we can compromise... single inventory, but still limited to 6 items.

[tawny ore]

Unlimited storage, but it's one visible slot, and you have to take items out to view the additional ones

[rancid musk]

Quarrel of Life

[teal bridge]

AKA the shipping bin?

[tawny ore]

Exactly

[lucid iron]

And it goes on a sprinkler

[tawny ore]

Sometimes your chest sprouts legs and runs away from you

[teal bridge]

Maybe Worse Chests should just remove chests entirely. Store everything in the bin.

[lucid iron]

Only accepts fertilizer

[hard fern]

Add an option for the chests to be haunted like the mannequin

[rancid musk]

Worse Chests. Any food left in a chest will rot overnight. Food should be kept in the fridge.

[teal bridge]

I like that. Also, chests ignore item stacks. If you want to put 9 parsnips in that 9-slot chest, it will use all 9 slots.

[tawny ore]

Oh that's extra cruel

I think the theme should be every Better Chests feature, but implemented as a Monkey Paws wish

[teal bridge]

I would do an April Fools mod for Worse Gamepads, but I'm not sure how I can make them worse.

[lucid iron]

Every button is hard bound to the chat menu

[rancid musk]

The NES controller is the ideal gamepad. No controller should have more than a D-pad, select, start, A, and B.

As such, no other buttons can be bound to actions.

[tawny ore]

Randomize the neighbor ids

[teal bridge]

Well, that just makes the game unplayable, not frustrating.

[teal bridge]

Which is... well, kind of the same as vanilla controls, no? The only buttons that actually work are those 4, and everything else is just a copy of one of those 4.

I guess Worse Gamepads would just block the other buttons from performing their mirror function.

Oh, I forgot about the triggers. I guess that does make menuing a bit worse, if they're disabled.

You can't use the toolbar anymore with gamepads, you have to open the main menu and rearrange your inventory.

[tawny ore]

I wish I could stash items into chests
Granted, when you stash items all of your inventory is randomly spread across any chest placed anywhere. Good luck finding it.

[rancid musk]

"I want to craft anywhere."
Whenever you start a craft, a junimo has to walk from the chest to your current location in real time with the ingredients and you're stuck in place waiting.

[tawny ore]

I want to access Chests from anywhere
Granted, when you access a chest remotely, all of it's contents are teleported to you on the ground.

[teal bridge]

Some players might still consider that slightly better.

[tawny ore]

Better have that big backpack upgrade

[rancid musk]

I want to access chests from anywhere.
The game randomly teleports you to a different chest when you press a button

[tawny ore]

That actually could be useful

Teleportation spots

[rancid musk]

Yeah, it could be.

[tawny ore]

Imagine people installing an April Fools mod for the one feature they find actually useful

[teal bridge]

Worse Backpacks could be a good mod idea. 6 items total, expandable to 9 and 12 for the cost of 50k and 100k, plus you have to arrange the items geometrically and have encumbrance that slows you down linearly, not just when you're over.

[wintry barn]

who hurt yall(respectfully these look funny asf)

[teal bridge]

(I can actually imagine a tiny fanatical group of maybe a dozen players installing that as a "hard mode" mod.)

[rancid musk]

That made me think of this https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/11945

[tawny ore]

If it takes off for it's meme value then it could totally be a challenge mode for certain types of players

[teal bridge]

I am kind of intrigued by the challenge of creating a mod that makes gameplay as miserably difficult and tedious as humanly possible without taking the form of cluelessly bad design or bugginess.

Something that no sane person should ever want to install, but still feels just as authentic as the vanilla experience.

[tawny ore]

That also sounds like it would be a fun premise for a mod jam challenge

April Fools ModJam anyone?

[tribal ore]

Events: viewport clamp x y false: what do? The wiki just has " TODO: explain other parameters."

[teal bridge]

I think the junimos are still worn out from Halloween, we might have to organize it ourselves.

[tawny ore]

The first ModJam on this server was put together by me

[tribal ore]

Hoping the viewport will move with the player if I set it to false

[tawny ore]

Ancient times now

[teal bridge]

Huh, actual cash prizes, that is ancient times indeed.

[tribal ore]

TBH game jams are a lot of fun. I'd love to participate but I dont' need any more distractiong from finishing my current mod

[teal bridge]

(I would like to see a contest/jam whose theme is more gameplay-oriented.)

[tawny ore]

The problem is you need a theme that is easy for participants to support or there just won't be enough interest

[lucid iron]

Is this just a ploy to get that jam color again

[tawny ore]

I won't admit to a thing

[lucid iron]

April fool jam

It see extremely hard to grade

[rancid musk]

What if my mod just lets you put a Junimo Kart Arcade System into a Preserves Jar

[teal bridge]

It's not like there needs to be an objective evaluation criteria. People just vote on what they like, whether it's meme value or real difficulty or whatever.

[lucid iron]

Only if i get a new arcade with fully impleme minigame

[lucid iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/30719

[tawny ore]

If there were an April Fools mod jam, it would have a scoring system similar to when I ran the first one, which allowed mods to be graded on different metrics. One of them would probably be humor and how challenging/fun it is.

[teal bridge]

You should be able to play it at 1/10th the normal resolution.

[rare orbit]

hey?? for any mods made on nexus for stardew valley?? should i link my mod or will it show up automatically??

just finished makin a mod!

[teal bridge]

Show up where?

[tawny ore]

You need mod author role to promote to showcase

Someone else can promote for you

[lucid iron]

Yes but ur blue

U can yo ask for orang if u want

Dm bouncer

[winter dust]

I don't think mod author is hard to get right?

[lucid iron]

Lv25 made a mod yep

[tawny ore]

Discord is smart enough to turn mod page links into the mod title, description, and screenshot. So you don't need anything special other than a link to post your mod in any channel.

[lucid iron]

Could be hard if "a mod" is something that took u several years but there's not really a lower bound

[tawny ore]

You still need to add yourself to the wiki, right?

[lucid iron]

Yea

I thought of that more as step in the application rather than requirement

[tawny ore]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Community#Modders

[winter dust]

I forgot about that page, funny to still see me on there.

[tawny ore]

Names on the wiki and posts on the forums both seem like remnants of a forgotten era

Although I know that forums are still lively, I just forget about them

[teal bridge]

I posted on the forum once. Never got any answer. That's why I ended up here.

[rancid musk]

I'm glad the forums exist, I just don't have the mental bandwidth to do anything with them.

[lunar dawn]

i tried the when hasmod token to control when a certain part takes effect but I guess i just don't know where to put it because json validator says it's not right and idk where to put it
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/fc36e4a3cd7941d2b360df79f124eb6b

[tawny ore]

The "forums" format in general is just not where a lot of active communities are being built nowadays

[lucid iron]

"HasMod": "DPS.MysticFoxes": "false",

This is incorrect

Remove the : "false"

[lunar dawn]

i only want those changes to happen when the player doesn't have the mod, how would i configure it so the items only get added when the mod isn't present?

[tawny ore]

One of your problems is that your curly brackets aren't in pairs

You open one { without closing it }

That's part of why it's invalid JSON

[lunar dawn]

well i closed it way down the line because i wanted it to do the things in the brackets when that condition is met

whats the correct way to do that?

[tawny ore]

That's not how When works, it's part of the Changes

The change is not part of the When, it's the other way around

[rare orbit]

ahhhh

still tryin to figure out my current level

[lunar dawn]

i put the when inside of the changes brackets

[tawny ore]

"Changes": [
  {
    // Change 1
  },
  {
    // Change 2
  },
  {
    // Change 3
    "When": {
      // When for Change 3
    }
  }
]

So each Change can have an Action, LogName, FromFile, When, etc...

[lucid iron]

For a negative hasmod you need this syntax
"HasMod |contains=ModId": false

[tawny ore]

One of the more helpful tips I can recommend is edit your .json files in VSCode, and add the "$schema" to the file so that it can help you make corrections as you're typing:

That way it constantly validates the file for you

[rare orbit]

wait i think i can do it! it's level 25 to pick the mod author role right?

[tawny ore]

For example in my file, it's telling me that I should update my format to 2.5.0

This is super helpful

[lunar dawn]

ok I'll try that

i think my brackets were correct though it was probably just the fact that i used hasmod wrong

[tawny ore]

Even if you fix HasMod, your brackets were still wrong. VSCode could show you that

If you fix your indentation, you can see at the end of your code you have extra brackets

[lunar dawn]

im not sure how to add the schema

[tawny ore]

You just add it to the top or bottom. Either below the first { or above the last }

Also seeing an issue here on your "ActionsOnApply"

Same deal,

"This": "That": {
}

is not valid JSON

Here. I think I fixed everything
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/c58f7add28c54257b33484ad299cb513

[lunar dawn]

oh that was unfinished I was trying to add a line that removes certain buffs and i forgot about it

[tawny ore]

Another tip is you can make your life easier by making your assets load from assets/{TargetWithoutPath}}.png if you just rename the file to match the Target

[lunar dawn]

that falls under the category of things i don't understand so i prefer to just do what has worked in the past for me

[tawny ore]

Something like:

{
  "Action": "Load",
  "Target": "{{ModId}}/ShopIcon, {{ModId}}/WFox, {{ModId}}/VFox, ...",
  "FromFile": "assets/{{TargetWithoutPath}}.png"
}

It just takes the word ShopIcon, and loads it from assets/ShopIcon.png

[lunar dawn]

i can try it but i think ill mess something up invevitably

[tawny ore]

Yeah, not saying you have to use it, but it's just one of those nice features there for your convenience

Since writing all of that can get repetitive, and lead to more mistakes

[lunar dawn]

i just copy and pasted the content from my old mod and started changing things

oh yeah i guess i should ask since im gonna ask later anyway

that part where i was trying to do an action on apply. i was trying to do a trigger action that removes certain debuffs by singling out their buff ID and i got distracted and forgot about it is why it was unfinished, but was i on the right track to put it there? because i only wanted it for that specific truffle

[lusty elm]

I have a weird design process, I needed 2 more warp locations for this map to make it more easily traversable, but i was using cave entrances as warp outputs from the warp map so that it doesnt take up map space, so now i'm making 2 more cave/sub-maps.

[tawny ore]

I don't see ActionsOnApply documented here, so I don't think that's a vanilla thing
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Objects

Looks like that belongs to Buffs which is a separate edit from Objects

[lunar dawn]

hmm i could have sworn i pulled it from somewhere

[tawny ore]

Data/Buffs not Data/Objects

[ivory plume]

@tawny ore Just in case it affects you, I'll be releasing my mod updates with the Iconic Framework integrations within the next half hour.

[tawny ore]

Thanks. Just in time for the complete rewrite to support StarControl (only kidding)

[lunar dawn]

oh so i'll have to make a new action for that right?

[tawny ore]

You can create a custom buff with a custom ActionsOnApply, and then have that buff apply to the object

Look here for that: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Buffs

[lunar dawn]

yeah thats where i got the actions on apply thing

[tawny ore]

I think SpaceCore has a thing where you can add a custom action to objects if you want to depend on that

[lunar dawn]

i dont think i need to

[cosmic thorn]

how to make a new item the player drank, and did not eat lol

[lunar dawn]

because something from actions on apply is that i can "addbuff" and "removebuff" right

in the trigger actions

[tawny ore]

New trigger actions
spacechase0.SpaceCore_OnItemUsed - use item GSQ conditions to check the right item, make sure to set UseForTriggerAction in ObjectExtensionData (see further below) for that item to true
spacechase0.SpaceCore_OnItemEaten - use item GSQ conditions to check the right item

[patent lance]

@brittle ledge: do that (4h ago)

[tawny ore]

SpaceCore does a bazillion things so I'm not totally in the loop on all of them

[lunar dawn]

am i able to do it without messing with spacecore though? i just think im not ready to jump into that yet

im already struggling pretty hard with the built in stuff

[tawny ore]

tbh I'm not sure how some of the buff/action stuff would work without testing it

SpaceCore isn't more work than what you're already doing

It's there to try to make some of that stuff easier

[lunar dawn]

i would have to understand it though

and thats a monumental task for me

[tawny ore]

If you're willing to learn, then there are people here willing to help you

But that's up to you

[lunar dawn]

i am willing to learn i just think im still not at the stage where i physically can learn it yet because im still building up my knowledge just like with the base stuff i can do without c# or dependencies

[tawny ore]

Fair enough. You can try what you think it right, and if it works then great. If not come back here. Ultimately you may run into an issue that isn't possible without depending on something like SpaceCore.

I can't confirm if this is one of those things, so you'll know once you try it out.

[lunar dawn]

i have a pretty good feeling that this is within means of what content patcher can do on its own

[tawny ore]

Similar to the buff thing, SpaceCore would just be targeting a path exactly like what you're doing now, and editing the action in for your object

So SpaceCore dependency is still a Content Patcher mod as far as you're concerned

[lucid iron]

So if it's a food item to eat

You can have buff

In vmv there's edible books for this reason

[modern ether]

can anyone tell me how to overwrite another mod's portraits with my own? I have a mod that adds an NPC who has four expressions, and I'm trying to add more. I know how to use them, just not how to load the file correctly to overwrite the original

[lucid iron]

Did you take a look at this other mod's Data/Characters

i like doing patch export Data/Characters for this kind of thing

[calm nebula]

Tbh I would get into contact with the mod author for this

[modern ether]

i'll try that, thanks

[lucid iron]

Yea do u have perms

Adding new expressions has implications

[modern ether]

it's just a side mod my wife and I want to make and play with, I'm not publishing it

[cosmic thorn]

@lucid iron sorry for ping, but do u know how to make an item drinkable instead of eatable ?

[tawny ore]

I just want to demystify the idea that using SpaceCore for this purpose is complicated. This is basically what that would look like in your content.json file:

{
  "Action": "EditData",
  "Target": "spacechase0.SpaceCore/ObjectExtensionData",
  "Entries": {
    "YourObject.Id": {
      "UseForTriggerAction": true
    }
  }
},
{
  "Action": "EditData",
  "Target": "Data/TriggerActions",
  "Entries": {
    "{{ModId}}_ItemUseWhatever": {
      "Id": "{{ModId}}_ItemUseWhatever",
      "Trigger": "spacechase0.SpaceCore_OnItemUsed",
      "Condition": "ITEM_ID YourObject.Id",
      "MarkActionApplied": false,
      "Actions": [
        "AddBuff example",
        "RemoveBuff example"
      ]
    }
  }
}

[ivory plume]

(Though buffs when eating/drinking are built-in to Data/Objects.)

[tawny ore]

Does that include adding a buff to remove a buff?

[lucid iron]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Objects

[lunar dawn]

Yeah I have adding buffs figured out I guess it just doesn’t seem possible to remove buffs when eating

[lucid iron]

IsDrink

[tawny ore]

I wasn't sure if buff to do action to remove buff would work

[ivory plume]

Yeah, removing a buff isn't supported through Data/Objects (except the duplicate buff which happens automatically).

[lucid iron]

All buffs go away when u sleep tho

If that's alright for ur case

[tawny ore]

There you go, eat an item and instantly sleep /lh

[lunar dawn]

Dang I really thought it could work

[tawny ore]

Anyway my sample code would probably accomplish what you're trying to do. Depending on SpaceCore does not mean writing C#.