making-mods-general

[gentle rose]

I'm sure some people doing commissions are willing to arrange non-paypal payment methods. There's a list in the commissions page, but if you'd rather do it this way, it might help to put your budget for the commission and the scope in your message.

!commissions

[ocean sail]

If you're looking for people who do mod commissions (either art or code), here's a wiki page with a non-comprehensive list of people who do them: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions

To use this command, type !commissions.

[hallow prism]

(and there's DP on nexus that some people may see as an acceptable payment)

[vernal crest]

Okay, confirmed that Lily's mod also works just fine in my game when using a different file name to NPC internal name.

So it seems like there is some common failure in game/CP/SMAPI/??? for Lily and Aeywoo

[rigid musk]

It also now works fine for me.. so there's that

Depending on what it is I may be able to help

I should probably figure out how to add myself to the commissions thing

though ive never done commissions for code or pixel art... i wouldnt know how to price those

[hallow prism]

a good minimum is your hourly wage

[naive wyvern]

best way to know how to price is to see how your peers price their stuff to get a feel for whats average in the community

hourly wage is also really good

[rigid musk]

im officially done testing all of Qi's events for vanilla im so happy

[hallow prism]

you can go higher, but try to not go lower

[rigid musk]

I don't.. have an hourly wage

I'm disabled so I don't/can't work :L

which is why I'm around here so much oooo I haunt everyone ooo

[vernal crest]

Then looking at the other comms on the comms page of the wiki is a good starting point

[rigid musk]

(at least not the work most people do anyways)

[hallow prism]

i mean, your country likely has one minimal one

[rigid musk]

Ah yeahhh

That's not very high, id definitely probably charge more than that

s'pecially if im gonna put my time into somethin

I know I charge above that for my basic art commissions so ill definitely try doing some price comparisons, maybe I can set up something on my ko-fi - thank you guys :3

[vernal crest]

Yeah I would definitely charge more than minimum wage for artistic work

Hmm, I just permanently deleted what I thought were empty folders but there was a file size so now I am afraid I deleted something I wasn't supposed to...

[gentle rose]

btw, by hourly wage we mean per new hour of work on the commission obviously, not your hourly wage for an entire asset

[unique sigil]

i decided my pricelist by comparing to someone else's that deal in similar commission types!

[hallow prism]

yeah! and it's a starting point for people that have trouble pricing their work, especially when they have difficulty accepting their work is worth that much

[unique sigil]

my country has weakass currency so i understand the feeling of having trouble pricing things :)

im just starting so i did set my prices on the mid-to-low end

[gentle rose]

and feel free to send your tentative prices here and we'll tell you if they need to be changed

[flat sluice]

Hi,
yesterday, I asked if it is possible to use Dynamic Tokens in i18n dialogues. The answer was yes. So I tried it, but it looks like I did something wrong, as I can't trigger these dialogues. Could someone help me with what I did wrong?
All files that should be needed are below X ask if you need more:
log file: https://smapi.io/log/946e05165cf548b288f827ee76ec1387
content.json: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/17445f85079c42e3aa1399f800cde7e1
dialogues.json: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/c4576ce8270c481e8efcf3a65e75739c
default.json (i18n file): https://smapi.io/json/i18n/7a34f3e3b47a4f15ba819b5d58e7e11e

BTW, is everything okay with the wiki? It loaded unexpectedly for me, including a picture of it (https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Console_commands#db), so is it only on my end? Other pages are OK.

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Pro, with 69 C# mods and 50 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[gentle rose]

the wiki does sometimes have issues with the theme, if they're there consistently it may be worth letting margot know on her talk page ig?

[flat sluice]

I'll give it some time to fix itself, but otherwise, I'll let someone know.

[acoustic bison]

Hi, I am would like help please on modding?

[hallow prism]

what is the db command?

[acoustic bison]

? i uh i mean like id like to put anoither npc in and i dont know how,

[gentle rose]

db for dialoguebox I think?

[hallow prism]

(i was asking about another issue than your)

[acoustic bison]

i figured lol

sorry

[hallow prism]

what is your issue and are you making the mod?

if you aren't, but want to use mod, the proper place is #1272025932932055121

[gentle rose]

have you ever made a stardew mod before?

[acoustic bison]

nope i havent, but id like to try leaarning

i wanted to add my boyfriend into the game

[gentle rose]

that's good! there's some guides that could help you in the wiki and the modding wiki

...I forgot what the commands are to get them

[acoustic bison]

thats fine, thank you so much

ill look there

[gentle rose]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[gentle rose]

there we go

[acoustic bison]

oop

[hallow prism]

can you try doing
Patch export Characters/Dialogue/StrojvedouciDenis.Eleanor

once the save is loaded?

then give us the resulting file (that will be in stardew valley/patch export)

!json to share it

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[tribal ore]

I'd like to send a letter a certain number of days after an event has happened. The only way I know how to time things with trigger actions right now is with conversation topics (set a conversation topic for 3 days and then check to see if it has expired). Is there a better way?

[hallow prism]

The event has a natural ct, but basically same concept

The natural one lasts 4 days i think, so it may not works for your use case

[tribal ore]

You mean the _memory_oneday etc topics?

[hallow prism]

Eventseen_eventid no memory key but i need to check format when on computer

There is one that just omit the memory_ part

[tribal ore]

Ok, I'll do a little googling as well just in case I can find it faster. 4 days is approximatey right, though it would be nice to control it with a little more finesse

[hallow prism]

example in abi dialogue you can see an eventSeen_3

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Dialogue#Generic_topics

[calm nebula]

does anyone remember if letters respect ${male|female|nb}$?

or the right syntax, I can't recall

automated mail checking:

not pictured: maru's face after the automated mail checker dumps a pile of items on the floor

[rigid musk]

🥹 I did it, my mod is ready to be beta tested...

Now what will I hyperfixate on

[wanton pebble]

fixing all the bugs that get reported for it

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-tom-rake-spade-hoe-gif-12584055

And that happens for any mod. You always think you're done and you've got it.... and then you start running into bugs the way this GIF goes XD

[rigid musk]

Mmm.. bugs..
I know I'm not completely done but the bulk of the work is which is what I'm referencing when I mention the hyperfixation thing heehoo

(i also know there's bound to be bugs because I:
A: Did not actually fully test the preconditions for my events
B: Did not even remotely test the special orders, i just loaded the game and waited until i didnt get any red
C: It's modding, there's gonna be bugs)

[calm nebula]

maru unimpressed at the pile of shit on the floor

[rigid musk]

PFF

I thought those were all IN the fishtank I was very confused

[tribal ore]

would like to know this, too

[flat sluice]

It should, or at least that is what wiki thinks:
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Dialogue#Gender_switch

````This is applied before most other commands or parsing, so it can safely be used in cases where ^ might have a different meaning (e.g. mail text). You can also use ¦ instead of ^, in which case any ^ characters are left as-is. ```

[flat sluice]

(taken from https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Dialogue#Gender_switch)

[flat sluice]

Here it is: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/d7084e3d715b4801928d8cd5a8ac803e

Many of them is missing...

In fact, these are only vanilla. So looks like the whole file is not loading properly... Not sure why...

There should be like 100 there...

Wait! I forgot to delete the old DT token in some of them.

[hallow prism]

hu, are the give_flowersB and such vanilla keys?

and i see some of your include and load have conditions so maybe something is missing

[flat sluice]

I did not add them, so I guess they are...

[hallow prism]

i think this may be from amod

like one of the unique answer whatever series

[calm nebula]

New version of EventsTester now has a command (sinz.check_mail <optional filter>) to check over all the mail entries as well

[flat sluice]

Deleting the old DT token didn't help, but I tested deleting |DT_dialogues={{DT_dialogues}} (that dynamic token trigger), then they would export properly. So it is somewhere between adding Dynamic Token to dialogues or in the Dynamic Token itself...

[fathom hound]

Wonder if I can make a CP mod that involves co-parenting??? Would involve changing NPC pathing & schedules.. should be CP-only, right???

[tribal ore]

NPC is invisible yet still shows up at festivals?

[flat sluice]

Did you set its position?
To be precise, does any of your code have "Target": "Data/Festivals/spring24", or something like that?

[calm nebula]

invisible npcs do show up at festivals yeah

it's a thing

[flat sluice]

Move it to -1000 -1000 then I guess?

[hallow prism]

hmm

[tribal ore]

Ugggghhhhh xD Fine. Gotta figure out how to change the setup entry based on a mailflag now

[hallow prism]

importing tokens in dialogues should work

but without more details it's hard knowing what's going on

[honest hamlet]

I wish there was something like "Reset this floor level" option when interacting with the ladder on the mines, so it makes farming for ores easier

Wonder if it's even possible to do something like this

AFAIK in multiplayer, you have to wait 10 ingame minutes for the mines to reset everytime you go up the ladder

[tribal ore]

Is there a way to change an actor's position during a festival after normal setup is called? Or am I going to have to have two setup entries and load the correct one based on a flag?

[tiny zealot]

the 10 minute tickover used to be required in single-player, too. it was a crucial part of farming mushroom floors (an old exploit that is no longer possible)

[flat sluice]

Yeah, I know. Do you need from me to send/test/... something?

[hallow prism]

i am quite busy with testing for my own mod right now, i don't really have suggestions right now

[tiny zealot]

you probably need to do the latter, since i don't think you have a built-in way to run event commands later than set-up.
what are you trying to accomplish?

[tribal ore]

When NPC is invisible, don't have him show up at festivals

Apparently not default behavior

I'll go ahead and create two setup entries I guess

[tiny zealot]

hmm hang on

are you talking about set-up or Set-Up_additionalCharacters?

[flat sluice]

I have already written my festival code, but what is the difference between these two? (using Set-Up_additionalCharacters right now)

[wanton pebble]

setup = bad, don't fuck with unless you're changing vanilla stuff
setup additional characters = good, meant for placing your stuff

[tiny zealot]

Set-Up_additionalCharacters is the one that adds them to the map.
set-up is a string of event commands that runs after everyone is added (to do walk cycles with advancedMove and the like)

[wanton pebble]

Technically it's-

yeah ichor's got the right of it - was about to elaborate on the second part

(all them advancedMoves being in set-up, that is)

[tiny zealot]

you can patch in a warp for your NPC off into the void if the mail flag says he should not be around. i expect that would work

(you want to use TextOperations for this. for example, for spring24:)

        {
          "Operation": "Append",
          "Target": ["Fields", "set-up", 5],
          "Value": "/advancedMove {{Lacey}} true 3 4400 0 -1 -1 0 2 5200 1 0 0 1"
        },```

that one is a walk cycle but if you punt your NPC off to -1000 -1000 or something i expect you won't see them

[granite bluff]

hey ho : ) how does the monster extermination board in the advernture guild work? since i changed some map tiles it cant be toggled anymore ingame, but i cant find the issue in tiled

[royal stump]

the board is a hard-coded action on Buildings tile index 1306, specifically

[reef kiln]

does anyone feel like walking me through getting this to work how to use Python to use this program? https://github.com/scriptsforweirdos/StardewJA2ConPat
Keep in mind I am a complete beginner with python so It may be a process. if not that is ok

[tribal ore]

setup, unfortunately. I'm changing vanilla positions for a few characters

[tribal ore]

This sounds much more promising

[iron ridge]

you just download python then run the commands

[tribal ore]

What is the "5" for in Fields?

[brittle ledge]

It's basically the fifth section of the event.

(Festivals are just fancy events)

[wanton pebble]

If that's what you're doing, why not add them into Setup Additional Characters?

Context: Pathos fixed it so that the last entry for a character is where they'll end up

So if you have Sandy 10 4 and later on Sandy 15 27, the game will only spawn Sandy 15 27

[tribal ore]

Honestly, because I'm out of my depth and thought that I had to modify the setup entry. If there is a better way to do it, I'm very happy to use it

Where is the documentation for setup additional?

[wanton pebble]

Honestly? IDK because I learned my setup additionals by diving into other mods and looking at their examples

I'm sure it's.... somewhere

[brittle ledge]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Making_a_Custom_NPC#Festivals this might help you, Kantrip!

[tribal ore]

xD lol!!

[wanton pebble]

thanks tia!

[tribal ore]

But setup additional will work for vanilla characters too?

[wanton pebble]

It should

[reef kiln]

i get to this point but any command I type does gives me an error. how do I tell python where the command are located?

[wanton pebble]

at worst, test for exactly one NPC

[tribal ore]

Ok. I'll give it a try!

Thank you guys

[wanton pebble]

No probs.

[iron ridge]

yeah you run the command on the readme from the command prompt, after downloading it

also running py -m pip install requirements.txt from the downloaded folder

[brittle ledge]

hey Pillow, are all your converters linked in one place?

[wanton pebble]

aren't most of pillow's converters in the !converters command?

Or is that one old presently

[iron ridge]

theyre all in !converters yes

they're also all in sdvconvertergui2's descriptions, with the exception of https://xnb.pillow.rocks

[granite bluff]

any hint how this specific tile looks like? c:

holy moly i found it, its empty xD thank you alot!

[reef kiln]

I got this when I typed that command

[iron ridge]

oh oops
py -m pip install -r requirements.txt

[reef kiln]

that worked

[reef kiln]

kind of, got this

[brittle ledge]

also, can a couple of people do me a favor and tell me if any of my mods are showing as blocked for adult content? https://next.nexusmods.com/profile/tiakall/mods?gameId=1303

[iron ridge]

try just run both

py -m pip install Pillow
py -m pip install pyjson5

i can see all 10 of the mods

[brittle ledge]

I turned all the NSFW tags off the other day and Nexus seems to think that I meant the opposite of what I did

[iron ridge]

and the mod pages work too for all

[brittle ledge]

there should be 11 is it Immersive Saloon you don't see?

[wanton pebble]

Immersive Saloon is adult

[iron ridge]

oh

[wanton pebble]

it says when you go to tia's stuff with NSFW turned on, I presume

[brittle ledge]

Anyone know who I could yell at about this?

[reef kiln]

ok, those both installed. so now I just run the command on the site?

[iron ridge]

yes

[flat sluice]

So...
I indeed did something wrong with my Dynamic Token...
LOG: https://smapi.io/log/6cceb52dada14b43a58da8c7bc0b480a
Dynamic token (full content.json file here - https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/a7f540dd7084444ba61afd2dbac9f081#L17):

      "Name": "DT_dialogues",
      "Value": "${Mr.^Ms.^Mx.}$ {{PlayerName}}",
      "When": {
        "Hearts:Eleanor": "{{Range: 0, 3}}"
      }
    },
    {
      "Name": "DT_dialogues",
      "Value": "{{PlayerName}}",
      "When": {
        "Hearts:Eleanor": "{{Range: 4, 14}}"
      }
    },
    {
      "Name": "DT_dialogues",
      "Value": "{{Hana.GNMTokens/Title}} {{PlayerName}}",
      "When": {
        "Hearts:Eleanor": "{{Range: 0, 3}}",
        "HasMod": "Hana.GNMTokens"
      }
    },
    {
      "Name": "DT_dialogues",
      "Value": "{{PlayerName}}",
      "When": {
        "Hearts:Eleanor": "{{Range: 4, 14}}",
        "HasMod": "Hana.GNMTokens"
      }
    }```

Due to some reason I don't quite know, CP doesn't want to read my `DT_dialogues` properly...
Is there a kind soul that would help me fix this?

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Pro, with 70 C# mods and 50 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[flat sluice]

(BTW, I already fixed those // invalid tokens: DT_formallity that are in the log file)

If anyone would want to know what I'm doing here, I'm trying to apply my Dynamic Token named DT_dialogues to i18n dialogue.

[calm nebula]

usually for dynamic tokens I'll have a base case with no conditions.

    {
      "Name": "DT_dialogues",
      "Value": "${Mr.^Ms.^Mx.}$ {{PlayerName}}",
    },
    {
      "Name": "DT_dialogues",
      "Value": "{{Hana.GNMTokens/Title}} {{PlayerName}}",
      "When": {
        "HasMod": "Hana.GNMTokens"
      }
    },
   {
      "Name": "DT_dialogues",
      "Value": "{{PlayerName}}",
      "When": {
        "Hearts:Eleanor": "{{Range: 4, 14}}"
      }
    },

[flat sluice]

Thanks! I should always have some backup...

However, sadly, that didn't help.
added:

      "Name": "DT_dialogues", // backup
      "Value": "${Mr.^Ms.^Mx.}$ {{PlayerName}}"
    },```

[calm nebula]

that might not fix your problems but maybe it'll hmm.

see, mine work, except I haven't actually tested with GNMTokens...actually installed

[flat sluice]

Give me a second, will test without it as well...

[reef kiln]

Ok so I just got this but I do pyjson5 installed so not sure why

[flat sluice]

Huh...
It works without it...
https://smapi.io/log/ce076eebb3f949bfaf042012bbd46391

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Pro, with 69 C# mods and 49 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[flat sluice]

DT_dialogues | [X] ${Mr.^Ms.^Mx.}$ Tester prof.6

So there must be an error with GNMTokens...

[iron ridge]

send the output of py -m pip freeze

[reef kiln]

oh wait I think I figured out what I did wrong

[flat sluice]

WAIT!
No, it doesn't work properly. It uses the backup one. Maybe...

[iron ridge]

try py -m pip install pyjson5==1.6.3

[flat sluice]

No, correcting "Hearts:Eleanor" to "Hearts:StrojvedouciDenis.Eleanor" didn't help.

[flat sluice]

https://smapi.io/log/21baaebdb0ae49929f285e1d2cfd7a2c

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Pro, with 69 C# mods and 49 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[reef kiln]

The whole message does not fit on screen. if you need more let me know

[iron ridge]

hmmm

tbh not sure at this point

[reef kiln]

ok, thanks for trying

[tropic walrus]

I have an event in summer that gives the player a non-order board Special Order, and I'd like to introduce a failsafe so that the event can be seen again next summer if the player fails the Special Order.

Has anyone devised a similar failsafe system I could take a look at? There's no queries for failed special orders or anything so I have a hard time coming up with something.

[hallow prism]

you can set a CT in the event equaling the time of your order and have a trigger if order isn't completed and CT isn't here and event was seen, maybe

[calm nebula]

        {
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/TriggerActions",
            "Entries": {
                "TheID": {
                    "Id": "TheID",
                    "Trigger": "DayEnding",
                    "Condition": "!PLAYER_SPECIAL_ORDER_ACTIVE Your_ORDER, !PLAYER_SPECIAL_ORDER_COMPLETE Your_Order, Season Spring",
                    "Actions": [
                        "whatever the mark event unseen command is.",
                    ]
                },
            }
        },
``` maybe?

it'll mark the event unseen the next spring if the player has failed the special order

[tropic walrus]

I'll take it, thank you.

[calm nebula]

Yeah, AdditionalSpecialOrders has two orders currently that are first launched by trigger action, but they're set up so if the player fails it the first time they just enter the pool like normal special ordres

They're not plot orders so

[valid moth]

@rotund elm unfortunately I won't be able to add those changes today after all, but I'll get to it when I get a chance

[rotund elm]

No worries at all take your time! I am in no rush and the more time you give me the more time I have to work on a few other recolors for the mod!

[ivory plume]

Here's a new draft for adding random tourists to the Central Station map, which hopefully strikes a balance between flexibility, simplicity, and avoiding conflicts. Any thoughts/feedback on this approach?

(Click 'open in browser' for full size.)

[latent mauve]

Tia, everything in this section of your Mod Details is still unchecked, right?

[calm nebula]

Flamingo!

[latent mauve]

Pathos, while you're here, could you clarify something for me? If I set up a stop as being part of the bus and train networks, the vanilla bus ticket machine is supposed to work even if you haven't unlocked the desert, right?

[ivory plume]

Yep, assuming you have the latest 0.2.0-alpha.

[latent mauve]

It didn't for me on the 0.2.0-alpha so I am wondering if I messed up somehow

Am I supposed to replace the ticket machine myself for that one?

[ivory plume]

I can take a look; can you send me the content pack (and any extra requirements it has)?

Nope, you just need to add your destination; Central Station should handle the rest.

[latent mauve]

Sure, will get to a computer and send that on in case I screwed up somehow. It's called into my in-progress Zelda mod since those are my test locations though, LOL

So enjoy the sneak preview I guess and ignore the NPC schedule weirdness xD

[brittle ledge]

Yep. I had the same issue with my museum mod where I had to turn the tags on before I could turn them off and it stuck for a while, but in this case it seems to have gotten stuck. I sent something to Support. Thanks

Also did you see you're hotmodding?

[latent mauve]

I did, I lamented the fact that it was for THAT mod

[amber nova]

This event made me want to make a mod where, after Clint turns blue, he doesn't turn back

[latent mauve]

Pathos, I'm gonna split off that stations code and recheck it again before sending it off to you if that's ok.

[amber nova]

Then there's some dialogue about how the product has been canceled and an event where Emily helps him, like, face paint to have a normal skin tone

[brittle ledge]

That would be fairly easy to do.

[flat sluice]

#making-mods-general message

Hello, @ivory plume, while you're here, if you wouldn't mind & when you will have time, could you maybe, please , help me figure out why my Dynamic Token in my dialogues won't work? (BTW, thanks for all of your contributions to SV modding!)
content.json: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/f01e1d3859ac4aaeadb74a085ce198a4
dialogues.json: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/7d2ba933e8d147e9ad3fde33ba23985e
default.json (i18n): https://smapi.io/json/i18n/35315a196bb44eb68897adcb9dd40f86
log: https://smapi.io/log/ef7b44e33e6c4897acbc09d4a4f1bd16

(Of course, if anyone else would know, don't hesitate to respond! also, please, ping me on reply!)

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Pro, with 69 C# mods and 49 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[ivory plume]

Sure! There's no hurry.

[ivory plume]

Which dialogue asset is affected and what specific issue do you have with it? (For example, the wrong value being shown, the file doesn't load, etc.)

[harsh bobcat]

Oh I was looking at my decomp earlier today and got confused by something; Utility.FilterUserName has comments saying it removes special characters but in my decomp it does literally nothing [just returns it as is]. is this just a platform specific thing? (like, is this why item id is patched on switch? because on switch they remove the command characters from the name?)

[iron ridge]

the former is probably changed by porting teams

the latter is because nintendo doesn't like fun

[ivory plume]

Yep, that method is there for consoles.

[harsh bobcat]

that makes sense

[amber nova]

Yeah I was just bringing up the idea

Not saying anything to the difficulty

[brittle ledge]

Ah, I thought you were interested in making it yourself since you said it made you want to make it

[flat sluice]

Oh, sorry, I posted the wrong log (and forgot to reload the game) and to my surprise, it worked in it, though I haven't changed anything. Creating a new one!

[amber nova]

Yeah I am I just wasn't like trying to make it out to be difficult or anything

I don't mind the difficulty regardless, I just wanted to talk about the idea instead

[brittle ledge]

Sorry, I was trying to encourage you by saying that would be easy enough to be a great first project

[uncut viper]

this IS the channel for making mods though, but if you just wanted to put ideas out there, there is a github repo for ideas you could submit to! i forget the command for it though

[gray bear]

!modideas methinks

[ocean sail]

If you have a mod idea that you aren't planning to make yourself, you can put it in the mod ideas github: https://github.com/StardewModders/mod-ideas

However, this does not mean anyone is guaranteed to work on your idea—modders who are looking for ideas sometimes go through and work on what they find interesting off this list. If you want to pay someone to make your mod idea, there are a few people who do commissions (mostly art, sometimes code); you can ask around, search usernames for the word comms, or see !commissions.

To use this command, type !modideas.

[uncut viper]

thank u

[amber nova]

Ah sorry, I'm used to people just talking about the technicals of mod making when I bring up ideas

I find it much more interesting to iron out details than talk about the level of difficulty, too much people in MC Modding being like "that would be this difficult"

[brittle ledge]

If you haven't made a mod before (assuming here since you're new), CP might seem intimidating and/or people might not know what would need to be done for a project. In this case you'd need a portrait edit to overlay his usual portraits that's conditioned on having seen the first event but not your second event where Emily facepaints him.

Events can be a little tricky since they're scripts with custom commands, but we have a lot of tutorials for those too

[amber nova]

Yeah, I figured the technical difficulties won't be that bad. I'm more interested in ironing out the details of how the idea would look atm

At work right now, so I can't code anything anyways

[drowsy pewter]

I can't spawn wild trees using map tile edits on Island_E :/ When I use the same code on Island_W, it spawns perfectly fine https://smapi.io/json/none/8aeb3b19a0904703899f4ed7c05e1fe6

[uncut viper]

(tbh sometimes people here can sometimes get into "that would be this difficult" territory too but usually its bc a lot of new modders either ask how difficult it would be or assume incorrectly that its a lot easier than it actually is. sometimes it seems like what should be easy is hard and vice versa)

[calm nebula]

Platform specific

It removes swear words on other platforms but is a nop on steam

[drowsy pewter]

Ah hold on, I should be able to use Spacecore to place wild trees on maps

[flat sluice]

To be precise, it was about both the dialogue not loading & if it would load (which didn't until like now), then about the CP using the wrong Dynamic Token/not respecting its "When" conditions.
Log: https://smapi.io/log/87e1ba29a2a7450fbc30ad99fe10f567
Huh... And NOW it works properly... Looks like your presence fixed it! Thanks and sorry for taking your time!

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Pro, with 70 C# mods and 50 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[ivory plume]

Glad I could help! I'll just need to stick around so your mod keeps working then.

[latent mauve]

Well, mine is still broken after splitting the code sadly, so I'll send that along shortly.

[harsh bobcat]

I mean it states that it replaces special characters that would cause crashes or bugs, not that it's a language filter. interesting if it actually does that instead

[latent mauve]

Would you prefer I just sent the part of my mod with the location data so it's easier to parse through, Pathos?

[ivory plume]

A minimal content pack that reproduces the issue would be ideal.

[latent mauve]

alright, I'll put the location code in a separate pack so I don't have to send the whole LoZ NPC mod over.

[ivory plume]

Here's the implementation for that method if you're curious:

public static string FilterUserName(string name)
{
#if !CONSOLE
    return name;
#else
    if (string.IsNullOrEmpty(name))
        return "";

    string omit = "@#$%^*{}|\'\"[]/\\€£¥¤";

    var filtered = "";

    foreach (char c in name)
    {
        if (omit.Contains(c))
            filtered += " ";
        else
            filtered += c;
    }

    return filtered.Trim();
#endif
}

[harsh bobcat]

ah cool

okay note to self, see if there's any fun things I can do with any of the omit characters

[brittle ledge]

Were you using patch reload to reload or were you resetting and reloading the whole game? IIRC you need reload_i18n to reload the i18n and dynamic tokens don't refresh with patch reload. So that might have been the issue if you were.

[flat sluice]

Honestly, I think that I changed something and I don't even remember it, but...
Looks like I have to improve my troubleshooting ability...
Thanks again and have a nice time! (and no, you don't or at least shouldn't have to stick around )

[brittle ledge]

While Pathos is putting off mod-fixing vibes: has anyone used FlowerDanceCanDance for a non-romanceable character and gotten it to work? and can I go peek at your code

[flat sluice]

Yeah, I already found out the news that when changing dynamic tokens, I have to reload the game. Of course, I used both patch reload and reload_i18n many times. I should also read CP guides in more detail.

[brittle ledge]

No worries, I only found that out by other people mentioning it here

[gentle rose]

(pathos, while you’re here, I made myself/kisaa a CJB cheats warp button content pack for Central Station for convenience, do you want me to send it here too?)

[ivory plume]

Oh, that's a good idea. I'll have Central Station add its own warp to CJB Cheats Menu.

[calm nebula]

Make sure flower dance fix is not installed?

[brittle ledge]

It's a test mod loadout, it shouldn't

Let me look

[ivory plume]

(I tested it with Evelyn during the 1.6 beta.)

[brittle ledge]

Here's the funny thing: if I patch reload, the NPCs start walking like they're outside a festival and will give daily dialogue, but THEN will give me the dance prompt.

[latent mauve]

I've been getting reports of Satoru Gojo's flower dance text not working either, even though I changed nothing there since last testing in 1.6.14.

[brittle ledge]

(Also, no Flower Dance Fix)

[latent mauve]

(I have, of course, received no logs for this report)

[gentle rose]

(also, the thing with not being able to trouble to Central Station from the bus stop until the bus is fixed is still happening, though I have no idea if it was even expected to be resolved in alpha 0.2.0 or not)

[gentle rose]

I see you haven’t gotten your mod author psychic abilities yet either? maybe it’s at higher total UDL…

[amber nova]

Maybe instead Maru takes him in and undoes whatever it is later on

[brittle ledge]

Is he romanceable in your version? Are you using the FlowerDanceCanDance in your dispo?

[amber nova]

I'll have to think out the details of how I want the blue event to happen to make it a mix of immersive and funny

[latent mauve]

Yes to both

[brittle ledge]

He should be danceable by default if he's romanceable (unless that's locked behind something). Have you tried taking that out and checking?

[latent mauve]

Well, the thing is, it worked on my testing, tia. 😛

Before the flurry of base game updates and hotfixes post 1.6.9

I just haven't tested it again since

It's been low priority since they never sent me a log

[brittle ledge]

If you send me over/link your latest version, I can check, I'm on flower dance day in my test save

[latent mauve]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/21209?tab=files the 1.6 file

[lucid iron]

is there GSQ for checking NPC.IsInvisible

[calm nebula]

no, but there is an event precondition

[gentle rose]

…that reminds me I need to fix Map Event Markers. It works, but I’m honestly not sure why right now

because I wrote it back when preconditions were one letter and it looks like they are not that any more

maybe that’s why it was having issues with vmv…

[brittle ledge]

Works for me, so I suppose your no-log person had a mod conflict

[gentle rose]

never assume why someone was having issues with a mod, it’s always weirder than you think /lh

from my experience with nexus comments, if it was reported there there’s even a chance they decided it wouldn’t work without ever downloading it…

[latent mauve]

Yep, that is why it was low priority to fix xD

[brittle ledge]

Well, at least now you know it's not broke

[latent mauve]

Haha, thanks for checking it!

[brittle ledge]

Okay, so I have FlowerDanceCanDance set to true and I have accept/decline dialogue keys. Would anything else be needed?

Like, this patch seems so simple that I don't know what to debug.

[latent mauve]

@ivory plume here's the minimal repro pack, shouldn't need any mods besides Content Patcher and Central Station.

Here's hoping it's an oversight on my part and not something annoying to fix. 🙂

[tribal ore]

Is !HasFlag valid as a When condition?

[uncut viper]

"HasFlag |contains=FlagYouDontWant": false

[tribal ore]

Thanks, Button

[uncut viper]

the ! is for GSQs

[brittle ledge]

Again: this does work IF I patch reload and they start wandering

but it won't work playing the festival normally

My flabbers are ghasted, my bams are boozled.

[calm nebula]

can you roommate the cats

[frigid aurora]

love friend options to dance with

[calm nebula]

the code is...complex here

[brittle ledge]

No.

[calm nebula]

okay, so it's not that

this..is

[brittle ledge]

Is there anything useful I can put in the log before I upload it?

[calm nebula]

nah, I'm just codediving

[brittle ledge]

I don't understand why patch reload would make it work, except for the fact that it seems like patch reload breaks other things in the festival

[gentle rose]

oh @latent mauve I see you ran into the same issue I did - an even more minimal repro is just central station on its own 😅 the bus stop just doesn’t take you to central station until you unlock it even without adding stops right now

[ivory plume]

Is your location Revali's Roost? It seems to appear for me; maybe the fix just wasn't included in 0.2.0-alpha.

I'll be posting 0.3.0-alpha later today though.

[gentle rose]

That dialogue box doesn’t pop up with the bus station not fixed in 0.2.0 at all so I think the fix may have just not been included, like you said

[hallow prism]

central station looks really promising

[final arch]

is Revali the bird from zelda?

[lucid iron]

Would the menu get rly tall eventually

With more mods using it

[rotund elm]

Can anyone tell me why some people use "\" in their targets but "/" in their FromFile portions?

Am I missing something important... XD

[ivory plume]

I haven't tested that yet, but it's something I'll be checking before release. I'll make sure it adds pagination if needed.

[lucid iron]

-# tube map menu

[ivory plume]

Probably to match the game (which uses \ in its asset names), but it makes no difference through Content Patcher which normalizes all asset names.

[rotund elm]

Thanks Pathos, I was worried it was something important

[gentle rose]

I don't even look at that when I'm travelling on the tube

[brittle ledge]

Pathos, if you don't mind me asking, when you tested Evelyn dancing, was adding the field to her dispo and adding the accept/reject dialogue keys all you did?

[ivory plume]

It's been a long time since I tested it, but I think so.

[brittle ledge]

That's literally all I'm doing, I have no idea why it only works with patch reload.

[latent mauve]

Yes, Revali's Roost was my location

There is another but it requires visiting the Woods first

Either way, glad to know that it will work in the next release!

[lusty elm]

.choose Mod, Read, Study, Game.

[patent lance]

Choose result: Mod

[lusty elm]

fitting

[astral prism]

where is this property accessible in an NPC (c#)?

[ivory plume]

npc.GetData()?.FriendsAndFamily

[astral prism]

ah........

thank you!

[reef kiln]

If I do this it will make it so goats need a barn instead of the big barn, right? I want to make sure I am only overwritting that one field.

        {
            "LogName": "Load data for Goat",
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/FarmAnimals",
            "Fields": {
                "Goat": {
                    "RequiredBuilding": "Barn",
                },
            },
        },

[mighty quest]

anybody know which tilesheet has this animal menu button sprite?

[calm nebula]

Cursor 16

[rotund elm]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/932b5a6aa0a540c9a4c8ea640283d264
For unknown reasons to me I cannot replace these 2 sprites from Cape Stardew, anyone know why? I also tried using this path mods/Cape Stardew/Objects/Cape Warp Totem/object

[mighty quest]

oh duh, thanks

[gentle rose]

wdym by "cannot" in this case? errors, nothing happening, ?

[rotund elm]

No errors, nothing happens

the rain totem and Qi Arena totem work as intended

[gentle rose]

cape stardew isn't your mod, right?

[rotund elm]

No

This won't be a public mod either just for my personal modlist

I guess I could just replace their sprite

[gentle rose]

no that's fine, just asking so I know what is and isn't possible

those targets look incorrect to me, are you sure that's what their asset names are?

where did you find these target paths?

[rotund elm]

object.png is the asset name and file type, I copied the paths directly from the file explorer

[gentle rose]

oh I see the confusion

an asset target isn't the same as the location of the asset in a folder, it's an internal label the game uses

you need to check their content.json to see what they loaded those assets to

[rotund elm]

Ahhhh

[lucid iron]

do patch export Data/Buildings

find the cape stardew obelisk

[gentle rose]

that also works, yeah, whichever is quickest haha

(the only place where the asset target will definitely be the path is when you're looking at the unpacked game files)

[lucid iron]

hm if i want to make a Id field that content patcher can use

[rotund elm]

I didnt have the game open so I just used the file

[lucid iron]

it just gotta be called Id and return a string right, i was hoping to ban ppl from actually editing it

yep thats the target

[rotund elm]

I would use Objects/SeaCapeWarpTotem/object right

[lucid iron]

no

Target

[rotund elm]

ok just copy the target then

I always read to much into things XD

Thank you both!

[hallow prism]

woooh my bugs are working!!!

[rotund elm]

Bugs?!

[lusty elm]

Bug Mod?

[hallow prism]

a very strange sentence to write if you don't know it's in context of making a pack for nature in the valley

[lucid iron]

looking forward to "added bugs" next vmv

[gentle rose]

as in, ban them from editing the string but just allow them to access it?

[rotund elm]

I love nature in the valley

[lucid iron]

its specifically for content patcher TargetField

i dont want ppl duplicating Id in the list

[hallow prism]

ahah 😄 maybe one day i'll make a VMV only pack but so far what i have is some bugs that requires either a foraging level or being in VMV natural areas, so players may get a chance to find them early with VMV installed

[gentle rose]

oh like so they should be able to edit everything but the ID basically?

[hallow prism]

(some have a similar thing with GI or being summer in valley)

[lucid iron]

the other thing is that

i put a List<List<Model>> in here

i had good reasons ok

[gentle rose]

the road to hell and all that

[lucid iron]

the good reason is that they genuinely needed ordering

and makes zero sense to ever reorder

sadly reorder is cp feature

[gentle rose]

honestly I can't picture the issue without seeing a bit more of the context rn so I'm not going to be very helpful haha

[lucid iron]

yea no worries im just musing on the model design

[gentle rose]

you reminded me I need to look at the cp docs for custom asset models

because what I'm doing right now makes List<List<Model>> look ideal

[lucid iron]

gist is that trinket tinker is hella nested since i looked at machines and was like, this is fine

https://github.com/Mushymato/TrinketTinker/blob/main/[CP] Abigail Axcellent Adventure/data/abigail.json#L119

u need 4 TargetField to drill down here

[calm nebula]

Hmmm

SortedDictionary

[lucid iron]

one of which is a #0

[calm nebula]

Also, just fyi, the order of items in a c# dictionary is known and as long as you remoce no entries is deterministic

[lucid iron]

i dont think i can like, tell who is edit though

[gentle rose]

you guys keep reminding me why I stay away from content pack hell

[lucid iron]

and well, even if it make no sense to reorder to me the framework author

im sure someone will find niche usage for it

[deep cypress]

Hi loves!!!!!! This should seperate between spouses who are farmers and spouses who are just regular ordinary run of the mill npc's, right?

 if (spouse.IsVillager)
 {```

[lucid iron]

so going out of me way to ban it is pretty meh

[gentle rose]

wait I finally understood what you mean with the IDs 💀 okay I'm with you now, I see the use case

...I think

as I keep rediscovering, json is not my usual preferred flavour of cursed

[lucid iron]

i dont think i care do anything about the List<List> rn

"TargetField": [
  "{{ModId}}_Krobus",
  "Abilities",
  "#0",
  "#0"
],

i just hope to make this last #0 an Id

[gentle rose]

but also prevent them from editing said ID(?)

[lucid iron]

guess it could be editable as long as i am fallback to stuff

this mod has so many knobs 1 more cant hurt

personal fav knob is "how much to squish when u bounce"

[gentle rose]

I think the issue is if you're setting that ID in a content pack in the first place, right? if you set it in c# then it should be pretty easy to just ignore what any content pack says to do with it

[lucid iron]

i am doing this in C#

[gentle rose]

oh, then can't you just make your code not read/use the ID from the cp model? like just discard it and use an internal one instead

idk if I'm explaining this right, my meds are deep frying and scrambling my brain today

[lucid iron]

yea but newtonsoft doesn't care very much about private

or default values

a lot of Id fields in vanilla can end up in null

or as dupe

[gentle rose]

are you reading the model directly into your code then?

[lucid iron]

?

[gentle rose]

yeah I assumed that made no sense

[lucid iron]

if u mean like

[gentle rose]

I will eat dinner then try to figure out how to make my brain do words good

[lucid iron]

did i take the time to build a second class from the class built from content pipeline

no

it seemed like a waste

and worry not i already decided what do

[gentle rose]

I feel like my solution would be to have an internal underlying ID property/field/thing? that writes to the ID field used in the cp model but doesn't read from it, but I say that not knowing if that's even remotely possible

[lucid iron]

its not that different, the main problem is just the individual model doesn't know its own position in a list

ill recycle this https://github.com/Mushymato/MachineControlPanel/blob/master/MachineControlPanel/Framework/Quirks.cs

[calm nebula]

Quirks

[gentle rose]

"abuse of functional programming" same tbh

I had one fp course in uni and use it only for evil

https://github.com/Mushymato/TrinketTinker/blob/main/TrinketTinker/Models/TinkerData.cs is it this model btw?

could you not just set a property with a special public setter that does nothing? and an internal override of some kind that does actually set it

can you even make internal versions of methods or am I making that up

[lucid iron]

this isnt the model of concern

but yea i was gonna do encapsulation like that

[gentle rose]

yeah, makes sense, I forgot all the words for things today but I'm pretty sure that's what I was trying to say

[lucid iron]

and then this bc a member of a list doesnt know it's own position in the list

[gentle rose]

time to make your own list subclass /lh

[lucid iron]

i did think about doing something with Abilities set

but im unsure how exactly edits go through

it seems safer to just do 1 pass at the end and gib everyone the right Id (that is what Quirks.cs was doing)

it is quirks over there cus those r base game data/machine stuff

and feature here cus its my stuff

[gentle rose]

on an unrelated note, I wonder how hard it is to take an existing monogame game (that I made dw) and turn it into an (unfun tbh but that's irrelevant) stardew minigame

[lucid iron]

take a look at IMinigame

[gentle rose]

fear /lh

[lucid iron]

its got the usual gameplay state loop stuff

so prob not that bad?

[gentle rose]

hopefully not. I'm hoping the underlying stuff can stay the same and all that would need to be modified is the asset pipeline and then just plugging into the iminigame interface

[lucid iron]

u gotta get ur graphics to scale for sdv ofc

[gentle rose]

this code is less ugly than code I look back on a year later typically is tbh

they're already pixel graphics and they're ugly bc I was lazy

[lucid iron]

i think it'd be fun and easy to make snake

and minesweeper

[gentle rose]

I'm thinking solitaire

because I already have monogame solitaire

[uncut viper]

i would like stardew tetris please

[lucid iron]

fun but less easy for 3d pinball space cadet my beloved

[gentle rose]

from what I know about the tetris people, I'd rather make a stardew disney X nintendo crossover

the real question when looking back at 1yo code: did I actually write non-spaghettified code for once or am I just not finding the mess yet

[lucid iron]

hm all this Id musing turns out for naught

i cant seem to TargetField into list of list anyways

oh maybe its cus i use IReadOnlyList

[calm nebula]

yes

[dusk mulch]

bro what

where is the game music stored

i cant find it

[lucid iron]

u need special stuff to unpack it

but if u just want to use a particular track, theres a list of the names iirc

[dusk mulch]

what "special stuff"?

[brittle ledge]

question, does the A precondition of events check to make sure the CT did fire and is no longer active, or that it just isn't active now?

[dusk mulch]

i use the xnb hack

[lucid iron]

[[Modding:audio]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Audio

[dusk mulch]

ty

[lucid iron]

unxwb is easy to use but u dont get the names

honestly not much point to it

[uncut viper]

the ActiveDialogueEvent class in Preconditions checks that the dialogue event is currently active, so presumably !ActiveDialogueEvent will check that it is simply not active

there is no check whether it was previously there

[brittle ledge]

okay, so I need to also have a condition that the event was seen

[dusk mulch]

krobus give me strength to go through 437 sound files...

[gentle rose]

aren’t one-letter preconditions deprecated now?

the wiki says they are but I’m now seeing there’s no explanation or version number attached

it also doesn’t list A as a short-form alias for ActiveDialogueEvent at all, weirdly enough

[brittle ledge]

[gentle rose]

never mind, A is actually double deprecated

[lucid iron]

🅰️

[gentle rose]

Random precondition my beloathed

[brittle ledge]

ughhhhh I don't like change

[calm nebula]

random precondition?

[lucid iron]

get with the times boomer /j

[gentle rose]

ah yes, the two genders, male and not male

[brittle ledge]

just like reality

[gentle rose]

One of the event preconditions is an rng check with a probability parameter, Random <chance>

[gentle rose]

in a way, it’s less inaccurate than “you’re either male or you’re female”, I suppose

[calm nebula]

gender cactus

[gentle rose]

what is it you say, atra? I want this on my desk by next week? that

tbh a “fix all the hardcoded gender stuff” framework is sounding more and more necessary by the minute… I already made a transpiler for avi that allows overriding the gendered relationship labels for certain npcs

[modest dagger]

what about the quantum gender of maybe

[calm nebula]

technically

[gentle rose]

I wonder how many (sfw) mods actually check for that precondition though

[calm nebula]

the quantum in quantum mechanics refers to the discrete grainyness of the universe

so quantum/quantized means "countable"

maybe's a superposition

anyways

[gentle rose]

sounds like something you’d learn at a degree that doesn’t refuse to come within ten feet of real world applicability, can’t relate

[calm nebula]

instead of being Smart TM and migrating Giant Crop Fertilizer off atracore, I...fixed up the special orders mod I totally was not working on

[gentle rose]

oh yeah btw, Central Station has an even lower nexus id than your special orders mod (found through the alpha’s update keys)

[calm nebula]

we're rocking 2022 again, huh

[gentle rose]

2021

February 2021

[calm nebula]

Nice

I wonder what other keys Pathos has

[gentle rose]

when I was rolling for random mods I found so many that were reserved and seemingly never released

it’s fun seeing their names though (if you’re a mod author and don’t want people to see your unreleased mod’s name, do not put it in nexus btw! it can be seen even when the mod can’t)

I saw one today actually that apparently was adding an orphanage

[devout otter]

Maybe I'll reserve a mod page, title it "To be released on April 1st" and just never release.

[lucid iron]

do yall make mod page when u r ready to ship

or when u get the idea

[brittle ledge]

depends

[calm nebula]

look, that special orders mod was the CP companion pack to a C# mod

[gentle rose]

I make mine at the absolute last minute and can’t think of a reason not to tbh, other than the fun of seeing how long ago you started

[brittle ledge]

the laat couple I made after the mod was done, but Wren will have a pretty low mod ID because I've been working on her page for a while

[calm nebula]

the C# mod I released in 2021 and never updated for 1.6

then 1.6 gave the Conditions field

[gentle rose]

the conditions field is a 1.6 update????

huh

that explains why I’d never heard of gsqs until I joined this server and started modding again

[uncut viper]

i have an unreleased mod page from 2 yrs ago if that answers it

[calm nebula]

Anyways

[devout otter]

When I get into the mood of actually organizing the mod page, which is usually never so it's generally the last thing I do. But I did it in the middle of modmaking once.

[gentle rose]

I wonder if some people snipe fun/round IDs for the fun of it to use later

[calm nebula]

I used to make the mod page when I was ready to ship, I just got cold feet on a handful of mods. Repeatedly

[gentle rose]

(looking at you, pathos /lh)

[calm nebula]

That said, my one remaining mod page I haven't used is, of course, Pam Tries'

[uncut viper]

i have waited to try and get a good number before but only for mods i did actually plan on releasing asap

[gentle rose]

central station has 8000

[calm nebula]

wondeerful number

very well deserved

tbh I was also supposed to be writing the analysis page for my map renderer rewrite but my brain cell is asleep today so maybe next week lol

[devout otter]

Always Raining in the Valley has 9999.

[gentle pebble]

So I was finally able to patch in the house for my NPC however I am now running into some new issues! Im not really sure how to go about it some help would be amazing! 1. I have vegtables growing on my house 2. I cant seem to walk on the porch of my house. Im pretty sure I just need to make the porch path instead of building.

[gentle rose]

and since that’s from 2021 like I said and central station is apparently a new idea…

[lucid iron]

reset terrain features

[gentle rose]

that’s honestly more satisfying than 10000

[lucid iron]

those r the spring onions though, r u sure u wanna patch over this part

ppl will be sad

[hallow prism]

i am quite happy with the number i got for my progress toward perfection mod, 29000, because it's satisfying 😄

[gentle pebble]

[gentle rose]

less sad and more annoyed that one of only two patches for spring onions is gone now 😅

[lucid iron]

just plant them ez

[whole raptor]

Do we have any commands to make NPCs go to the island.. for example the next day?

[gentle rose]

…they’re plantable?

[lucid iron]

with a mod yea

[latent mauve]

I think you can temporarily set all other NPCs to CanVisitIsland: false with a patch?

[gentle rose]

are you looking for a console command for debugging or a patch for a mod?

[ivory plume]

(A mod author who left a while back donated that unused ID to me; I don't reserve IDs ahead unless we're like 2 away from a good one and I'm about to release the mod.)

[gentle pebble]

So how would I get rid of the spring onions because im too lazy to rewrite my code and find a new spot

[latent mauve]

It sounded like they wanted a console command, irocendar. I just don't know of one, but I do know the patch trick

[whole raptor]

Console command, but it's just out of curiosity (and to maybe help a user get an annoying event with Razzy)

[devout otter]

You can't do it through your mod's Content Patcher. You need to tell your user to use a mod called Reset Terrain Features.

[whole raptor]

But I guess wctm can work too, it's just less "natural"

[gentle rose]

I assumed you didn’t haha, I just thought it was neat! I figured you had one left over from an unreleased mod or something and decided to use it for this, but it’s nice of that mod author to donate that ID if they aren’t going to use it

[calm nebula]

fun fact: there's nothing special about beach schedules, other than them being generated

[gentle rose]

oh ping, I keep missing that 😭

[latent mauve]

I haven't tried scheduling someone to go to the island directly but it might be possible with a patch as well if you wanted to trigger the change to happen due to a pre-event condition

[calm nebula]

you could literally do

"spring": "610 IslandSouth x y/1200 IslandSouth x y change_beach/..."

[ivory plume]

(Pings are fine! I often won't notice messages that don't ping.)

[lucid iron]

if u press shift when u reply then ping's off

[calm nebula]

you literally can just do that

[gentle rose]

I’m on ipad where none of the fun keyboard stuff works

[lucid iron]

pathos can i make my List data model immune to moveentries

[brave fable]

pathos can i suppress warnings about entries not found when using moveentries

[ivory plume]

Nope. Content Patcher doesn't have special-case handling for specific assets, it's just a general framework for editing any asset.

[tender bloom]

always when ship

[lucid iron]

i was hoping i could express it with like, IOrderedEnumerable

[tender bloom]

yes, definitely

[lucid iron]

or smth like that

[gentle rose]

as always, I have suggestions that may or may not be closer to cautionary tales than helpful advice

[uncut viper]

wasnt this changed to TRACE in 2.5

[ivory plume]

In theory Content Patcher 2.5.0+ shouldn't log those warnings anymore.

[brave fable]

oh was it? wonderful

somehow i didnt think anyone else wouldve been complaining about it

[uncut viper]

why not make an OrderedDictionary

[lucid iron]

i want to refactor less

and it'd just end up being OrderedDictionary<int, thing> without guarnetee of continuous so its a bit silly

[calm nebula]

tbh someone with an active Map Properties mod should do a SpringOnionsZone x y w h

looks at chue or dh

active.

[brave fable]

why stop at spring onions

[lucid iron]

CropSpawnZone

[brave fable]

anyway this sounds like a preexisting feature of pytk

[lucid iron]

well its dead

[brave fable]

of course, The Spring Onions Zone is a very attention-grabbing mod name

[gentle pebble]

This mod is now outdated and will not work

[gentle rose]

(the suggestions range anywhere from harmony patching content patcher(nested paren, content patcher patcher?) to implementing special collections like you said)

[gentle rose]

there’s a new version floating around somewhere

[lucid iron]

idk if i would solve the forest case with a map prop though

[gentle rose]

do I remember where? absolutely not

[lucid iron]

it seems like the kind of thing where we ought to just harmony in the most convienant implementation

OopsAllSpringOnionsEveryDirtTile

[gentle rose]

see I was worried about where you were going with that for a second

[brave fable]

that's just the uniqueid

[calm nebula]

(tbh, in 1.5.6 I had a mod installed that, correctly for a cooking mod, required a lot of spring onions)

(I later installed a mod that would let me grow the stupid fuckers)

[devout otter]

Look in the comment section for the update.

[calm nebula]

the only thing a cooking mod could do to get closer to my heart is put garlic in everything

[brave fable]

one of loc 1.0's key features was to put spring onions in fuckin everything

and rice. lots of rice

[gentle pebble]

got it thank you

[lucid iron]

does loc give me a rice rating

[gentle rose]

where’s the cooking mod that lets me leave them out out of both laziness, an unwillingness to buy them and a hatred of the texture?

[lucid iron]

whats blueberry with rice at

[brave fable]

no, but i can try and give you one myself

[gentle rose]

…both (lists three things)

[hallow prism]

i... wanted to scope creep you and may scope creep myself instead
a machine that just regrow spring onions. you input one spring onion, you get five a few days later.
It's a glass on a counter.

well, if i remember that in some days, and have time between all the stuff i want and have to do, i may do it (or not)

[tawdry light]

If I add a new item to the game, can I add it to the list of things that can be gifted during events with the awardfestivalprize command?

I wanted to make a new event that gives clothes like Emily's, but as it seems this command only has a few options for prizes and u can't just put any item in the game

[calm nebula]

so, that command used to be that way, but you can do now

awardFestivalPrize <any qualified item ID>

so yes

[hallow prism]

there are likely other ways to give items too now

[tawdry light]

OH MY GOD! For real?!

That is the best update when it comes to modding that I could ask for. I can finally go back and fix one of my events so that I'm not forced to reward a second "Marnie's Portrait" just cause there is no other option.

are all item IDs in the event modding resources spreadsheets and if not is there a way to get an ID for a specific item?

[hallow prism]

!unpack then open data/objects

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[tawdry light]

cool thanks

[hallow prism]

you'll get a list, search, the key here is the id

268 in this case, BUT new stuff can and will be a string

(ex)

[lucid iron]

is there a established sound cue name that's just "silence"

[uncut viper]

"none"

tho actually idk if that works for sfx

[tawdry light]

in the objects data there is no furniture or clothes tho. Does it mean those can't be gifted during an event?

[brave fable]

any qualified item id from atra's post shows that you can use non-objects, too, such as furniture

[hallow prism]

they are different kind of objects

they have their own file and their own identifier

[brave fable]

the qualifier determines the data type of the item: (O) is a qualifier for an object, like a strawberry, and (F) is a qualifier for furniture, such as a retro table

[hallow prism]

so a furniture will have stuff in form of (F)idofitem

clothes are (S) for shirts

[brave fable]

you can search in Data/Furniture and Data/Clothing for other item names, and refer to [[Modding:Items]] i think for a list of qualifiers

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Items

[hallow prism]

pants are probably (P) but the wiki will be better

[tawdry light]

Gotcha, thanks a lot to all of u

Can't wait to add some new clothes and go cosplay with Sebastian

Maybe then people will finally stop asking for more Sebastian events, which fair cause the only one I have for him kinda sucks

lol

anyway, thanks again!

[stoic galleon]

I have a question about how spacecore handles animations. There was a mod that animated obelisks through Content Patcher Animations that managed to animate the Farm Obelisk. I converted it to spacecore, but the Farm obelisk specifically isn't animated. Is it because in the base game it's stored in Maps and not Buildings? Does that make spacecore unable to install it and is there no workaround?

[lucid iron]

the farm obelisk is a map so you don't need any special mod to animate that (just a map patch with tsx animations will do)

you also don't need any special mod for buildings if you change it to draw layers

[stoic galleon]

A map patch, got it. Thank you for answering my question. Out of curiosity, do you know why the farm obelisk specifically isn't in Buildings? It also makes it impossible for AT versions.

[lucid iron]

you can't build things outside of farm in 1.5

so i imagine thats why mr ape implemented it as a map feature

they probably could have made it a building in 1.6 but they had better things to do, and also AT needs to fix that bug where it doesnt work on buildings outside of farm (for basically the same reason)

[stoic galleon]

Thanks for the detailed answer, it makes sense and I hope some day there's a fix.

[lucid iron]

theres prob some wacky thing u can do to make it a building now

quite doable in C# ofc, but u need to sacrifice compat for all the mods that do believe it is map patch

[fleet oyster]

is this the channel to talk about mod making in? I got some questions lol

[rough lintel]

yes

ask away

[fleet oyster]

okay, so, if I were to make a mod that needs both content added and mechanics, how would the mod structure go?

also, do I need to include a Content Patcher dependency in the manifest for the content adder or both the manifest for the mechanics and the content?

[uncut viper]

what kind of mechanics do you mean?

also, when making a content pack for content patcher, simply putting it as the "ContentPackFor" field is sufficient

[lucid iron]

you cant have both ContentPackFor and EntryDll, so there's a few approach here

• do all the content editing in C#
• figure out if they actually need C#
• package 2 mods together one with ContentPackFor one with EntryDll

[fleet oyster]

That is actually really helpful! Thank you

[lucid iron]

theres a feature in ModBuildConfig for the last case

https://github.com/Mushymato/StardewMods/blob/main/SprinklerAttachments/SprinklerAttachments.csproj#L28-L30

[dull bay]

Hey ! I would like to create a pokémon mod for water type Pokemon, and add a new type of coop with lake inside, how could I start this project and learn step by step ? ☺️

[uncut viper]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[uncut viper]

the specific process will vary depending on the specifics of what you want to accomplish

the new coop though is probably all doable in content patcher

[lucid iron]

hm indoor water

do farm animals swim o those

[brittle ledge]

we don't have a specific tutorial for farm animals yet, but you can take a look at all silvermoonchan's conversions, Frog Friends (which adds a custom coop) or my mod, Plant Dinos

[dull bay]

Ok thx a lot i will take a look !

[dull bay]

Yes, I would like to drop eggs by fishing for example and incubate the egg to have a pokémon in a coop, like chickens

[lucid iron]

you should take a look at map modding too

[[modding:maps]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps

[lucid iron]

since you will need to make the interior map for your farm animal building

and prob stuff about adding fishing data

[dull bay]

Thank you, I will read this for maps editing

[fleet oyster]

How do I get my cp changes to load?

[gaunt orbit]

hmmm
something somewhat irritating about the hud is that drawing and input are processed in the same order, which means that if you have overlapping hud elements, the one that displays "underneath" captures all the inputs, while the one "on top" obscures it by drawing over it

[uncut viper]

are you talking about like, ClickableTextureComponents

[gaunt orbit]

no, Game1.onScreenMenus

considering writing a transpiler for Game1.drawHUD() to replace the foreach with a reversed for, but idk if it's worth it

[lucid iron]

does the content patcher Range token have step

[calm nebula]

Nopr

[rotund elm]

For getting the target path for the keybindings and settings button for gmcm what file should I be looking at in the source code.... IDK how to understand C# XD

I thought something like that is normally in the main .cs file but I am not seeing where the pngs are mentioned

[rotund elm]

Thanks Chu

[rigid oriole]

Oops that's my fork

[rotund elm]

XD

[mighty quest]

I will cast my vote for yes, please :3

[rigid oriole]

https://github.com/spacechase0/StardewValleyMods/tree/develop/GenericModConfigMenu

I believe the Readme has an example?

[rotund elm]

I didn't even think to check the read me... O_o

[rigid oriole]

It doesn't have a keybind example but it has an example of using the api

Here's me adding a keybind:

https://github.com/lisyce/StardewValleyMods/blob/main/BzpAllergies/ModEntry.cs#L112

https://github.com/lisyce/StardewValleyMods/blob/main/BzpAllergies/Config/ConfigMenuInit.cs#L16

You don't have to split into multiple files like i did, I just found it cleaner bc my config got kinda long

[ivory plume]

(First prototype of random Central Station tourists working!)

[latent mauve]

(will it be possible to put one sitting on a bench?)

[ivory plume]

Not directly, but you could just have a bench they're sitting on as part of your map patch.

[latent mauve]

That works for me

[lucid iron]

@ivory plume what are your thoughts about translating content patcher docs (to chinese specifically)

since github is spotty in china it'd be best if they could host it somewhere else

[ivory plume]

I have no objections, though I'd be concerned about the docs becoming outdated if they don't have a regular maintainer.

[lucid iron]

yea that is true, though i feel like any doc is better than no doc in terms of getting ppl to do not xnb mods

[ivory plume]

Central Station preview 3 is now available!

Recap:

Central Station lets you travel to mod locations in a more immersive way using boat, bus, and train networks. It has a central station hub where you can switch lines, visit the food court and gift shop, access pop-up shops from other mods, and more. See info for players and for mod authors.

Changes since the last build:

• Added random tourists to the Central Station map. There are currently 31 tourist spawn tiles (each with a 35% chance of spawning a tourist each day), and 19 built-in tourists.
• Added support for custom tourists from other mods.
• Added warp in CJB Cheats Menu.
• The Central Station map is now loaded through the content pipeline.
• Fixed bus stop's ticket machine not always showing Central Station destinations.
• Fixed typo in shop item ID ('triple shout espresso').

Not included yet:

• Mod pop-up shops.
• Tourists can't choose the areas they spawn yet.

Feel free to try it out and report bugs, feedback, or suggestions here! This is the best time to try adding your mods to Central Station and see if there's anything you don't like, before it's released and the format becomes much harder to change.

[devout otter]

Pathos, I don't know whether this'd be difficult to do or within the scope, but is it possible to add an option to make any particular tourist has dialogue box with portraits?

[deep cypress]

Game1.player.getRidOfChildren(); is officially accursed code!!! ❤️

[lucid iron]

dolphin portraits agenda

[deep cypress]

(if u are curious, yes, I am doing something accursed.... it's a exactly one child doving item - any recs what the item is?)

[lucid iron]

olive wreath but like, evil

[ivory plume]

It's probably out of scope for Central Station to support directly, but you can set a custom Action tile property instead of using the built-in dialogue fields. So your NPC could call a custom action that supports displaying a portrait dialogue box.

(I'm surprised there doesn't seem to be a built-in action for it.)

[uncut viper]

(BETAS has one tho—)

[ivory plume]

(Great! You can use the BETAS tile action in your tourist patch then.)

[lucid iron]

wait button is it a tile action

[deep cypress]

What about a Zeppelin for the Central Station?

[uncut viper]

i thought there was a tile action that called a regular action

[lucid iron]

forcing dolphin into 2 whole dependencies just to draw portraits

[uncut viper]

oh im thinking of spacecores trigger action action

[tiny zealot]

button, surely you should implement the tile action that calls a regular action?

[uncut viper]

i thought it was vanilla already when i said it

[lucid iron]

its probably easy to just enmass register a equiv tile action for any action u make right

to skip middleman

[uncut viper]

they have different signatures, the delegates

[lucid iron]

but u can just register a local one i thought

[uncut viper]

wdym

[lucid iron]

(location, args, farmer, tile) => actualActionMethod

[uncut viper]

would i not have to make a new function that takes in the arguments a TileAction expects

hm

[lucid iron]

maybe have some closure implications ofc

[uncut viper]

id never considered it

[lucid iron]

i have used this in one off static methods, unsure if its as easy in ur automagics

[devout otter]

With BETAS it can do everything a dialogue command can do, right? So I can can use #$e# to simulate the "Each time the player clicks the tourist, it will show the next dialogue in the list" part?

[uncut viper]

uhhhh

i dont think so

you can do other dialogue commands but there'd be no actual NPC to attach the dialogue too

[devout otter]

Aw.

[uncut viper]

i think you can achieve the same effect with spacecore's triggeraction action though

by setting a mail flag along with the initial dialogue box action maybe

to determine which one to show

along with the If action

[devout otter]

Like first trigger, second trigger, third trigger?

[uncut viper]

If (mailflag) ShowDialogueBox1 # showDialogueBox2

very pseudocode there i dont remember the syntax for If

[ivory plume]

(Maybe I could add support for spawning an actual NPC instance, as an optional alternative to the map patch approach. Then you could have regular NPC dialogues with portraits.)

[uncut viper]

the best way to achieve this effect with BETAS is to not use BETAS and instead scopecreep Pathos

[lucid iron]

Would it be the simple non villager npc stuff like fizz

[uncut viper]

i imagine it cant be like, too difficult to just set up static Tourist1, Tourist2, Tourist3 etc Data/Character entries or somethin

and let people edit those conditionally every day or based on your conditions you allow

tho admittedly i didnt look at the new docs yet i was busy so i dont know what restrictions you have on the tourists already or how theyre meant to be edited

[devout otter]

Well I can always make dummy NPCs, put them in a void and use the built-in NPCSpeechMessageNoRadius as tile property to call for their portraits, I suppose...

[lucid iron]

I think they r supposed to be in a pool

[uncut viper]

maybe let people add their own entries into Data/Characters whose internal names follow a specific format? like CentralStation_TouristFromMyMod

and just pick em out of a hat

[lucid iron]

Hm so if u can Dialogue the tourists which can action

Hire random mercs from central station

[uncut viper]

tbh htinking about it more if adding support for actual NPC instances is too wonky the dialogue break thing can actually i think easily be achieved with BETAS using WritePlayerModData and the [ReadPlayerModData] tokenizable string

just get the dialogue from the mod data and write to it when you're done with the new dialogue which will appear next time the action happens

[lucid iron]

Button is betas actually a use mod data as kv store framework

[uncut viper]

it is if you want it to be

you could even change which key you store to by reading the key you wanna store to from another key, which you can change

WritePlayerModData [ReadPlayerModData KeyToGrab] [ReadPlayerModData KeyThatHoldsValue]

could do a buncha fancyu stuff with some clever chaining

[ivory plume]

Potential syntax to spawn an actual NPC instead of a map patch:

"{{MainModId}}": {
    "FromNpc": {
        "InternalName": "Fizz",
        "DisplayName": "Fizz",
        "SpriteAsset": "Characters/Fizz",
        /* "SpriteSize": { "X": 16, "Y": 32 }, // optional */
        "PortraitAsset": "Portraits/Fizz",
        "Dialogue": [ ... ]
    }
}

[gentle rose]

Do I go to sleep because it's nearly 5am, or do I play around with 0.3.0...?

0.3.0 it is

[uncut viper]

does it even need an internal name at that point then if you are specifying the displayname, portrait, sprite, and dialogue?

[ivory plume]

Depends how it works under the hood. For example, maybe you can specify only the internal name and Central Station will grab the other fields (except Dialogue) from Data/Characters. That would certainly make it easier to add mod NPCs to the central station.

[lucid iron]

is dialogue the regular dialogue asset

string string with keys

[uncut viper]

what would it do if it chose, say, Abigail but her schedule put her somewhere else

wouldnt a mod NPC have to account for the possibility of being chosen on a random day they cant control

[ivory plume]

Dialogue is a list of dialogue lines to show in the central station; see the tourist docs.

You can set a Condition to decide when your NPC is eligible to appear, but this would add a temporary non-villager NPC (it wouldn't move the real NPC if they already exist).

[uncut viper]

so i could pass by Abigail on the way to the train, hop on, get to central station, and see Abigail again?

[tiny zealot]

no different from passing her on the way to the mines and finding her on floor 20

[ivory plume]

Yep! Just like in vanilla you can see Gunther in the movie theater, then go straight to the museum and see him there too.

[uncut viper]

tbf thats impossible for me to see anyway as i play multiplayer exclusively

(the Abigail thing i mean)

[gentle rose]

can we name the tourist who's retired Jatra

[devout otter]

Oh, might as well ask something that has been worrying me for a while. If I were to add like, 30 dummy NPCs with zero schedule just to have their portraits, would that be taxing to the game?

[latent mauve]

don't suppose anyone knows which tilesheet the spouse portraits are in off the top of their head?

[uncut viper]

junimo_furniture

in TileSheets

[latent mauve]

thanks Button

[ivory plume]

All 30 of them would still be updating every tick (even if they end up not doing anything), and there's quite a bit of logic in the NPC code. So it might be a pretty inefficient way to get portraits.

[devout otter]

Noooo. 😔

[gentle rose]

yay the bus station works now

[latent mauve]

Dolphin, what portraits are you wanting?

[devout otter]

Thank you for the explanation. I'd need to rethought how I did some things, then.

[latent mauve]

Would it be more reasonable to create them as custom paths instead?

^ just realized you likely mean dialogue portraits

[devout otter]

Oh, portraits for dialogue box. I am making a mod that gives all interactable character in vanilla game a dialogue portraits.

[latent mauve]

ah, gotcha

[gentle rose]

I'm curious right now about the Owners field for the permanent shops, though it doesn't seem to be implemented yet so I'm guessing it's either coming later or a tentative design?

[latent mauve]

Shopkeepers use the custom portrait path which is why I got confused

[gentle rose]

unless it's a normal part of shops that I don't know about

[uncut viper]

normal shops have that

[latent mauve]

Because I've absolutely used it for adding portraits for the bookseller and traveling cart lady already

_>

[gentle rose]

yeah I should really start assuming that, shouldn't I

ty button

[devout otter]

Something like this: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/702334241203159139/1291936857340379228/image.png?ex=67a16ef5&is=67a01d75&hm=b459b2dc4cdc2b0a7d44f7fd8e50026d0264c6b6ee62a7d77d562d42a4cbc60c&

(Portrait art by cresolyn).

[gentle rose]

so if a location isn't unlocked, does the ticket counter not get put in at all? like the desert doesn't seem to have one if I warp there before I unlock it

[lucid iron]

how frequently is npc appearances checked

like are they only able to change clothes when they change map

[gentle rose]

I sense crime in that question

[lucid iron]

no im doing less work for myself

[uncut viper]

yes

[lucid iron]

[uncut viper]

you can call the function manually whenever you want

[lucid iron]

nice i slacc too

[uncut viper]

but they only call it themselves when they change map

[lucid iron]

you speak as if abby is sentient

[uncut viper]

also their appearance isnt synced so if you update it manually it wont change for farmhands

or rather like

[gentle rose]

I don't see a ticket machine in the desert after I unlock it either

[uncut viper]

it might be synced but it got overwritten like immediately

when the farmhand did its UpdateAppearance check

[lucid iron]

yea

the reason why i ask is cus i am doing an analogous system for trinkets

[devout otter]

Desert doesn't have ticket machine, does it? You just go inside the bus.

[gentle rose]

bus only takes me back to town, not central station

[devout otter]

Aa, in context of Central Station.

[gentle rose]

same with the boat from ginger island it seems, you can go to those places from central station but you can't directly get to it from them

[nova gale]

I've been away all weekend so I hadn't had a chance to test until today, but fyi, so far the Color field on item spawn rules added in 1.6.9 doesn't seem to function (I've tried RGBA as a space delimited field, as a hex code, as a name, both with and without the copycolor flag. (copycolor: true does work, but it ignores the color field on the spawn rule and instead respects the tags on the input item). I'm going to decompile stardew valley again and see if I can spot the reason

[winter dust]

I think I've asked this before but I can't remember, can I make a building repairable like the beach bridge? Give some materials to fix it up.

[nova gale]

wouldn't that just be an action, then an event and map edit?

[vernal crest]

Or Unlockable Bundles

[winter dust]

Not sure, I guess I should look into it more. Didn't think it'd be that simple.

[nova gale]

I would think that's how you would do it, but maybe not

maybe an action like that can't take items from the inventory, that could be the limiter

[brittle pasture]

It's ObjectColor, not Color

someone with a pc pls fiz the wiki

[nova gale]

oh, if that works I'll see if I can update the wiki

[winter dust]

I can do it via mobile.

Where's it listed.

[gentle rose]

@ivory plume when the Willy's boat repair quest is in progress, Central Station prevents it from being completed by preventing the batteries from being donated to the ticket stand (and also preventing the ticket stand from showing the dialogue regarding what materials are needed, which is important since this does not go in the quest journal)

(Screenshots: interacting with the ticket stand with or without the battery packs in inventory, interacting with the anchor with the iridium bars in inventory, interacting with the anchor without the iridium bars in inventory)

[nova gale]

right now it's just here: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Migrate_to_Stardew_Valley_1.6.9#Item_data_changes it hasn't been added to the item spawn page yet

[winter dust]

Best to report it via the bug reports forum. Disregard.

[vernal crest]

But it's Pathos's mod

[uncut viper]

this is for Pathos's mod he posted from an alpha here?

[vernal crest]

And Pathos is not CA

[gentle rose]

It's a bug for the mod we're helping him test right now... and I pinged pathos not ca...

[winter dust]

Ahh, I thought you pinged ConcernedApe, sorry.

[gentle rose]

regardless, this is the mod pathos himself is sharing for people to try and test, so this is the correct location with bug reports, not the forums 😅

[winter dust]

I know, I just said I thought you pinged CA.

[winter dust]

So just change Color to ObjectColor?

[pine canyon]

Does anyone know what he want?

[slender badger]

That's a #modded-stardew question

[vernal crest]

Or even one of the non-modded channels if you're not playing with mods

[tiny zealot]

pretty sure that's not vanilla trash bear 😅

[brittle pasture]

If you can pls add it to https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Item_queries as well

[slender badger]

They're definitely using mods, that's a mod-added item and a retextured trash bear

[vernal crest]

Oh yeah haha

[nova gale]

I'm testing now Aeywoo, but thats what Selph said, yeah

[vernal crest]

Actually that's quite cute, I should find that trash bear retexture

[ivory plume]

(You can use Lookup Anything to see what the item is.)

[slender badger]

I think it's Elle's Town Animals, if I remember right?

[vernal crest]

I discovered the LA thing by accident and I was so relieved because I had NO idea what trash bear was asking me for (it ended up being paella)

[ivory plume]

Fixed in the upcoming 0.4.0-alpha. Thanks for reporting it!

[vernal crest]

I spent weeks just unable to tell what it wanted lol

[nova gale]

yup, that was it! thanks Selph!

[vernal crest]

It is, thank you! I would never have found that on my own.

[gentle rose]

also, pathos, was there supposed to be a ticket stand in the desert? or are you supposed to be able to get to the desert but leave via bus?

[winter dust]

Item spawn fields section?

[gentle rose]

(either way is good, I'm just not clear on which it's meant to be)

[ivory plume]

Currently there's no ticket machine in the desert or Ginger Island, since you technically got there via Pam/Willy; you'd need to have them bring you back, then you can go to Central Station from there.

[slender badger]

There's also What Does Trash Bear Want which adds a pop-up telling you what he's looking for, if that helps 😄

[nova gale]

yeah, it would be in Item spawn fields

[gentle rose]

that makes sense!

[winter dust]

What mod is this?

[vernal crest]

Yes I saw that! Which is a good idea but I am already a die-hard LA user so I am sorted. But I can recommend the other one to other people in future, I guess!

[ivory plume]

We're discussing Central Station (see the [earlier alpha build post](#making-mods-general message)).

[gentle rose]

Time to console command the boat fixed mail in so I can try out the going from central station to ginger island

[winter dust]

Ooh, fancy.

[nova gale]

(although interestingly, adding objectcolor seems to have removed the stack size! I'll work on that tomorrow, gotta head to bed)

[gentle rose]

I wonder what the most cursed central station stop condition I can come up with is doesn't BETAS define some fun new GSQs--

[lucid iron]

RANDOM

sometimes the bus come sometimes it dont

just like irl

[gentle rose]

I thought about random, and it's good, but we can do better

[languid aurora]

raining in winter

[uncut viper]

yeah a couple last i checked

theres one for whether or not you are currently swimming

[gentle rose]

a certain npc is in a completely different location? (using BETAS)

see I assume you can't interact with machines while you're swimming but I'll admit I never tried

[uncut viper]

why WOULD you assume that though

[gentle rose]

I keep hitting enter by accident

[lucid iron]

it occur to me that

i been using bool? as tristate

[uncut viper]

you can gate a location behind perfection progress with BETAS, or how many empty slots you have in your inventory, or whether or not its a farmhands anniversary

[lucid iron]

instead of making an enum

[gentle rose]

player speed + random = true bus experience of sprinting to the bus that came in halfway between two scheduled times

[uncut viper]

tbh using bool? as a tristate sounds like something id do

out of laziness

[uncut viper]

but only if theyre NOT currently holding up [insert item to bribe the driver with here]

[gentle rose]

oh there's one for having split wallets in multiplayer. take the bus only if you have your own money, thief

[lucid iron]

is there a location has monsters gsq

[uncut viper]

thatd just be handled by their own money

[uncut viper]

lemme get back to you on that in a sec ineed to check how a gsq works

[faint ingot]

If I want to set a mail flag but not actually send a letter, I don't have to add anything to Data/Mail, right?

[uncut viper]

correct

[gentle rose]

there's one for if a location has furniture

[uncut viper]

just send it to the received mailbox

[uncut viper]

ok no there is not i think

[gentle rose]

...if farmhouse has no furniture, open up a bus line to a furniture shop

[uncut viper]

there is LOCATION_HAS_NPC which if you dont specify a name will just check if there is any NPC in the location, including monsters and pets

[lucid iron]

huh neat

[uncut viper]

if you specify a name though it will only check NPC names

[lucid iron]

i was thinking of making like

IsCombat

[uncut viper]

this wasnt the intended behaviour really or else i woulda handled monsters better maybe

[gentle rose]

the bed probably always counts as furniture though I'm guessing?

[uncut viper]

beats me

[lucid iron]

this is to be defined as "dealt or taken damage in the last 5 seconds

[gentle rose]

what other mods add gsqs

[lucid iron]

the reasoning is that some maps r hella big and full of monsters but u r not in combat all the time

(this is not a GSQ)

[uncut viper]

hmmm

you could maybe do that with BETAS... maybe

[brittle pasture]

wild unsubstantiated guess but I don't think the base farmhouse bed is a furniture

I don't think it's anything

[uncut viper]

BedFurniture inherits from Furniture

[lucid iron]

i already have OnReceiveDamage/OnDamageMonster so its pretty easy to just

[brittle pasture]

mine

[lucid iron]

timer that one

its more like, whether it makes sense

[uncut viper]

you could definitely set a timer with DelayedAction

to set a player stat

[brittle pasture]

no isnt the base farmhouse bed just a tile action of am I misremembering severely

[uncut viper]

tho you dont have a way to cancel one if you keep doing damage

[lucid iron]

its hardcoded

[gentle rose]

thank you for enabling this crime selph

[uncut viper]

i dont know if its a tile action but i know for sure the game adds a BedFurniture object to the farmhouses furniture list

[lusty elm]

It used to be a simple tileaction, now its coded into the bed to make it movable

[lucid iron]

a lot of mods add random ass GSQs though

[lusty elm]

i think there is a property to make a map or area considered as safe, so if you pass out there nothing happens, there is probably one for setting up an area to sleep as well?

[brittle pasture]

enjoy, a GSQ that's usable in only two specific places - MTF and SpaceCore crops

[uncut viper]

i will absorb them all and become the biggest GSQ cake /j

[brittle pasture]

oops forgor link
https://github.com/zombifier/My_Stardew_Mods/tree/master/CustomTapperFramework#extra-gsqs

[gentle rose]

(dw I used the governor command haha)

[uncut viper]

tbf i also have a hyper specific GSQ that is literally only usable in one exact place and in conjunction with one specific trigger from BETAS

Spiderbuttons.BETAS_ITEM_ENCHANTMENTS

[gentle rose]

but why is custom tapper framework MTF?

[lusty elm]

Back TouchAction Sleep Ends the day if the player confirms. so that does exist.

[lucid iron]

i have GSQs specifically for putting trinkets in machines and one about equip only X number of them across all players

[uncut viper]

oh yeah my book mod also adds an undocumented secret GSQ