making-mods-general

[dusk mulch]

one sec

[gray bear]

you should always see if the wiki has an example when doing these kinds of things. really helps

[dusk mulch]

thing is its hard to find it because sometimes the wiki doesnt have a link to navigae to that page

[gray bear]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Item_queries

ichor sent this link before. there usually is

[dusk mulch]

whoah, ty!

bookmarked

[rancid temple]

Have you unpacked the game?

[gentle rose]

you can also use advanced search with the modding namespace turned on + ctrl+f

[rancid temple]

There's a whole data asset with examples of trash cans already doing this exact thing

[rigid musk]

Before I go to bed, opinions: would 2 weeks to reach level 200 in skull caverns be enough time or should i just make it a month

i have no reference for how good people are at skull caverns because i could literally do that in a day but im a bit ill about this game so

[rancid temple]

I cheat pretty liberally so that doesn't sound that bad to me, plus there's stairs but like uh, is that even possible normally?

[rigid musk]

very easily possible yeah

you can do it without stairs too (i usually forget to use them even with a stack of em in my inventory)

[rancid temple]

Normal people taking damage from falling and not knowing where the holes are supposed to spawn

It sounds pretty difficult to me

[vernal crest]

Yeah I always cheat so I have no clue

[uncut viper]

(you can also do what i do, which is just google "stardew/smapi wiki modding [term]" and scroll until i find it)

(i do this for like half the pages i reference regularly)

[dusk mulch]

ok time to see if this works

[rigid musk]

i also feel bad for people who are bad at the game for my other special order (which is to reach level 50 in the hardmode caverns without eating) ... to be fair its optional so you dont have to take it + it doesnt give a recipe or anything

[uncut viper]

i also always cheat the skull caverns so dont ask me either

[dusk mulch]

ive been doing this for 8 HOURS

[rigid musk]

bunch a cheaters the lot of you /silly

[gray bear]

i be googling "stardew modding [thing]" and hope for the best

[dusk mulch]

lol i should try that

[gray bear]

it usually works so

[vernal crest]

I never google to find wiki pages

[gray bear]

why tf do i have a minion emoji-

[rigid musk]

the amount of tabs i have open at this very moment is astronomical

[dusk mulch]

"stardew modding How to make a map, NPC, and OP weapons"

[gray bear]

someone take me out /j

[vernal crest]

Too many times sent to the old wiki and then being embarrassed!

[rancid temple]

I just go in the wiki and type modding:<term>in the search bar

[vernal crest]

Being able to search the modding namespace is SO handy

[gray bear]

that usually works better roku how does it feel to be efficient

[uncut viper]

the only times i get sent to the old wiki now are when i do try and use my address bar autocomplete but it still remembers an old community wiki page i visited 2.5 years ago

but it cant remember the pages i used last week...

[rancid temple]

But actually, I don't usually search, I just have most of the page locations memorized

[rigid musk]

NPC is harder but weapons are on there too ... the map thing i will not remark on because i ended up using incorrect documentation and had to redo the implementation of my maps

[gray bear]

i have looked at the items wiki page so many times and still i forget the value i use every single time

[dusk mulch]

ah- ah- ah you got an error in your json it should be

modding:[term]

[uncut viper]

(tbh there's been times where i couldnt remember what page some info was on so i just found it in ILSpy instead bc i remembered where it was in the codebase instead)

[rigid musk]

<> is technically a place holder

[gray bear]

behold whatever the heck this chicken code is

[rigid musk]

fun and joy

[uncut viper]

is that yours

[gray bear]

yes

[uncut viper]

but

[gray bear]

i did actually finish the chicken sprites i should release the omni chicken eventually

[uncut viper]

you can put multiple categories in one query

[gray bear]

I-

i didn't know how?

[rancid temple]

It would also be the correct method for searching since I don't want a list of comma separated values

[uncut viper]

!ITEM_CATEGORY Target 0 -5 -9 -20 -21 -22

[rigid musk]

what if I named the hard skull cavern challenge 'Qi's hungry challenge but worse' and then called it a day

[gray bear]

thank you button

[uncut viper]

that would be "not any of these categories"

[gray bear]

yeah random any item is fun until it spawns an invisible block that won't go away

[rigid musk]

'Qi's Very Hungry Challenge'

[rancid temple]

Hungry Hungry Qi's

[rigid musk]

Qi's 'I really am feeling a bit peckish right now' challenge

[gray bear]

wait is -999 the category for books

some of the item categories in stardew make me sad

[uncut viper]

no books are -102 and -103

-103 for skill books, -102 for power books

[gray bear]

omg i just realized i'm using extra animal config for the chicken but i put the id for extra machine config

[patent lance]

UserInfo for spiderbuttons

created

06 Aug 2015 01:17:50 AM UTC

join position

119715

joined

17 Mar 2023 12:08:30 PM UTC

id

78657757846188032

roles

Villager, Farmer, Rancher, Cropmaster, Contest Winner, Shepherd, Festival Attendee, Cowpoke, PC/Mac/Linux

has a rockin avatar

[vernal crest]

I have no idea if y'all can see Uber showing me button's user info. Sorry if you can!

[hard fern]

Wigs

I didn't mean to type wigs

[dusk mulch]

ok

[hard fern]

😭 but yeah i can see it lol

[uncut viper]

that me

[vernal crest]

Cool cool good to know. Everybody, use Governor's user info option rather than Uber's if you want to secretly creep on people xD

[uncut viper]

join position 119715.... tiny

actually that might be for this server. dunno

[gentle rose]

it's per server, I just tried it in another server and the person had like position 60 haha

[uncut viper]

my prestigious low account number

[gentle rose]

waaaait if you use the governor command on a cheeto it shows links to their mods???

that's so cool

(I'm guessing it's using the wiki list)

[uncut viper]

wait, what

[gentle rose]

right click a cheeto's pfp, click Apps > User Info (the governor one, not uberbot)

[slender badger]

It is, yeah!

[rancid temple]

No links for Button

[uncut viper]

sad

[rancid temple]

Oh, that makes sense

[uncut viper]

lmao

[gentle rose]

not a cheeto, not on the wiki 😭

[rancid temple]

It probably pulls from the wiki

not to imply you're not a mod author

[uncut viper]

i would never be caught dead being a mod author

can you imagine

/lh

[patent lance]

New quote added by wopr1234 as #6310 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1333730426577092620)

[rancid temple]

We are a trashy bunch

[dusk mulch]

rude...

[vernal crest]

Hahah what so Kisaa was right and I literally just happened to choose one of the only people who isn't a cheeto to test it on lol

[gray bear]

https://tenor.com/view/trash-trash-man-im-the-trash-man-iasip-danny-devito-gif-15616885

[vernal crest]

I read this the same way as "I'm the Scatman"

[dusk mulch]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/6ad3132c173548d9a18943248ddc4370 the randomitemID isnt working and i literally copied it off the wiki so it should work

[vernal crest]

Can you explain what you mean by "isn't working"?

[dusk mulch]

It just wont give me any item

Each item has an equal chance so i should get at least 1, or am i dumb...

[gray bear]

[vernal crest]

Wai you be mean to me Bea?! It's a fun song, he's a cool man!

[gray bear]

oh i didn't realize it was a song- i was confused

[slender badger]

It's still a garbage can, so there's a chance of not getting anything just like any other garbage can.

[dusk mulch]

Oh, right

[vernal crest]

I mean, fair. It's a strange sounding name if you're unfamiliar with the musical meaning of scat haha

[naive wyvern]

i started humming the song when you mentioned it aba uihfsiugsaf

[hard fern]

Same lol

[dusk mulch]

wut.

[rancid temple]

!stone

[ocean sail]

🪨 The item ID for Stone is 390.

To use this command, type !stone.

[rancid temple]

There's a lot of litter that's not real

[dusk mulch]

oh

[rancid temple]

Unfortunately stone is the only one with a command, you'll have to check the object data to discern what the other ones are

[dusk mulch]

finally ive finished this stupid depo mod

[brittle pasture]

Your TargetField looks wrong

[dusk mulch]

i removed that, dw

[brittle pasture]

the first entry in TargetField?

that should do it

[dusk mulch]

least favorite part of any mod is making the banner

[brave fable]

don't worry about it much, nexus fucks the quality to hell anyway

[gray bear]

yeah

[versed wyvern]

I'm getting a really stupid idea and I'd like to know if there are any obvious problems with it before I try it

From searching around, we can't display temporary sprites outside of events, right? So we wouldn't be able to, for example, spawn a plate of food on a table at an NPC's dinner time
But could I... add a non-social NPC whose sprite is the plate of food for one facing position and transparency otherwise at the dining table's coordinates, with a schedule set to face the proper direction to become visible only at dinner time and then become invisible again after

[vernal crest]

I think you could...but you could just do an EditMap with CP

[versed wyvern]

I could? Would I be able to enable a map edit patch on the fly like that specifically at the times the character's eating there?

[vernal crest]

Yes, though it would have to have an update rate of OnTimeChange which can get pricy with performance.

[light bramble]

QUESTION: Is it possible to do a map expansion thingy like how SVE has it where you can buy the land?

But like, no C#

Can it be done in content patcher

[vernal crest]

But making NPCs visible and invisible on time change is tricky too and (I should remember this but I don't) I think requires a map change to take effect

[versed wyvern]

Oh, that does sound like something I should use minimally for mere visual fluff

[vernal crest]

I don't know how SVE does it but you could use Unlockable Bundles.

[versed wyvern]

This, on the other hand, wouldn't it be doable if the NPC just had blank spots on their sheet, like say, in the spot normally used to face left, and then I had their schedule face left?

[vernal crest]

I guess so. It'd be pretty easy to check with an existing NPC. Just change their schedule and spritesheet. But I don't know if you could avoid having the cursor change when the player hovered over it. I removed all of Lewis's dialogue once but I can't remember if that completely disabled talking to him or just made him say "...".

[uncut viper]

does this coincide with an NPC arriving at a schedule point? if so, BETAS can do it

[versed wyvern]

Oh, really? Yes, that was the plan, just wanted the character to have a plate of food to eat when they get to their table

[uncut viper]

BETAS has an NpcArrived trigger, which fires when an NPC arrives at their schedule point, which can then set a mailflag and also call PatchUpdate, which will make CP instantly re-check tokens and stuff, which will then see that mail flag and apply a map patch

(Spiderbuttons.BETAS_PatchUpdate is an action I mean)

the map patch would be tied to a When condition checking for that mail flag

[versed wyvern]

Hmmm, very interesting... I wonder if my janky roundabout way might actually be less steps though

[light bramble]

So is it possible to have a thing like what happens when the railroad opens get triggered after a major thing in the game using CP?

Like adding an event in the night

basically the "There was an earthquake during the night." event

[versed wyvern]

But that NpcArrived trigger... That does get me wondering about the possibilities

[uncut viper]

More Nightly Events is the framework for night events

[hallow prism]

Use temp actor or temp animated sprite

[versed wyvern]

Weren't those only for events?

[hallow prism]

Oh yeah sorry i misread

[versed wyvern]

Anyhow, thanks all for the input, if there aren't any major flaws with this way of doing it I think I'm gonna try it, might even be able to use schedule animations to make them some kind of general purpose prop display sheet

[devout otter]

As someone who sneakily add invisible NPCs in one of my mods, I can confirm that they don't get cursor change if they have no dialogue.

[calm nebula]

Hi esca!

[royal stump]

I'm not 100% familiar with all SVE does, but one of things it did (and probably still does) was give the player special orders via C#, which you can just do with trigger actions and such now. So you could basically make a custom special order with a drop-box of materials or whatever, give that to the player after an event/via mail/etc, and use the order completion to set a flag that unlocks the new location/map patch/etc. I think.

[calm nebula]

The sve one has infinite time which endertedi has a mod for

[royal stump]

(oh right, that's still not native)

[calm nebula]

I love how rvery expansion has that code tbh

[light bramble]

I'm using unlockable bundles

[calm nebula]

Anyways

Good morning, I hate hate hate electrolyte imbalances

Woke up this morning because my calf muscle seized up on me sigh

[royal stump]

I just failed to sleep more than an hour for some reason, so back to being nocturnal

[gentle rose]

morning! I'm contemplating if I should install visual studio so I can use shared projects or if I should just extract all the code currently in shared projects into the mod I'm looking at updating

[calm nebula]

Gonna go get coffee, etc

[royal stump]

I prefer the latter for simplicity's sake, but ig it mostly depends on how much code's involved

[calm nebula]

Iro, who is very brave, has decided to look at my repo

[royal stump]

though I say that while severely overcomplicating a "get map tiles in random order" utility

[calm nebula]

Which has three separate shared libraries

One which has its own repository and uses dependencies although I am going to pull one of the dependencies in favor of hand rolling IL this weekend (hopefully)

(AtraBase, AtraShared, then MiniAtraShared to make it easier for me to pull mods off AtraCore)

[gentle rose]

and unfortunately for me, I use Rider, which doesn't like shared projects at all so either I fix all of atracore for 1.6 (no thank you) or I migrate all the necessary code into the mods I'm looking at

(because I can't directly reference the shared projects from the mods right now)

[calm nebula]

weird

(fun fact, atracore works for 1.6.)

[gentle rose]

...is this rider being annoying again then

I'm this close to giving up and moving to visual studio lmao

[calm nebula]

no, usually people don't pull the subrepos probably I think

It's on my todo list to remove teh pintail reflection module (never really used it, I tend to just hand roll IL)

[gentle rose]

(for context, atracore isn't compiling for me and I have all the subrepos pulled correctly, it's just showing a ton of errors which I now assume are rider being its usual lovely self)

earlier today it was telling me that the keywords void and string weren't recognised

[brittle pasture]

do you know which is this? the framework that adds infinite duration special orders
because I feel like at least 4 expansions have their own impl and I prefer to not add a 5th

[gentle rose]

we need a command for that xkcd universal standards strip

[royal stump]

looks like this one: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/26117

[calm nebula]

oh man now that I look at gima's code again I'm like damn I could have made better decisions lol

welp

random 6AM commit of "mild cleaning"

[gentle rose]

I feel that way every time I look away from my code for longer than 3 seconds tbf

[calm nebula]

Yeah, I'm doing weird things to the content pathway

Which. Ugh

[gentle rose]

me, looking in the wrong mod: why don't I recognise any of this from yesterday

[calm nebula]

I regularly go to the wrong mod and just blink, tbh

[calm nebula]

You should see mine tbh

https://github.com/atravita-mods/StardewMods/blob/2017c2ce5f804d706db34f9a5cbdf00e3c7c4fe1/FarmCaveSpawn/FarmCaveSpawn/ModEntry.cs#L212

[royal stump]

seems clean, but I'm not sure where GetTiles is defined

[calm nebula]

AtraShared

Shuffled is in AtraBase

GetTiles uses rented arrays

Thus the weirdness of returning both the array and a count

It's not great, I suspect it could be a lot faster tbh

[royal stump]

(clicking around for several minutes before bothering to get my phone & log into github)

I was poking at doing some yield nonsense to speed up FTM's existing tile logic, but haven't really improved on it so far, still creating a map-sized list of vector2s and trimming it down

which is functional in itself, but this is for trigger actions instead of time changes (and in practice, just daystarted), so I should probably figure something out

[calm nebula]

God I hate teams

Yeah, the biggest thing I'm doing is avoid the allocation entirely

[royal stump]

(...oh, I got lost because I clicked base then shared, and it switched me back to base mid-load )

& yeah, I was trying to look up a way to yield random tiles without allocating the whole set earlier, but I'm not sure that actually makes sense

[calm nebula]

Yeah

[royal stump]

caching or using rental might help, though I've never touched the latter really

[calm nebula]

Rentals are super easy tbh

[royal stump]

though I'm not sure if making 10k vectors2 is a problem compared to pinging every map tile for properties and such

the old* "is totally clear and placeable" check took forever

[calm nebula]

Lol, yeah

It's why I decided against prefilterinf tbh

[royal stump]

really I just need to go finish* the parsing end of this, but I got distracted

the idea is basically just a tile query instead of multiple settings, e.g. "area x y w h, isPlaceable, etc" as a trigger action field

FTM's old code has some pointless bits but is fast enough not to take up seconds in people's logs, at least

[gentle rose]

tomorrow or later today I'll install visual studio so I can take a proper look at GIMA without whatever nonsense rider is causing, for now I need to sleep though

[winter dust]

Are there any mods that have custom building repair events/quests? Like with the bridge you have to fix to access the tide pools on the beach?

[unreal spoke]

I’m pretty sure Alvadea’s mining farm map (Gold Rush?) has something like that for a shed. Alternatively, Unlockable Bundles can be used to unlock stuff afaik.

[winter dust]

I'm thinking of using that old farm building on the Forest Road map for something, need to think of what to use it for.

Maybe I can make two bundles for two choices, but you only get one.

[royal stump]

I think Grandpa's Farm for SVE is the part that has a special order chain to repair a greenhouse

plus some other buildings in misc places

[unique sigil]

unlockable bundles can do that with the Dialogue bundle type

[winter dust]

Was there a reason SDV made the Desert map so big?

[fossil osprey]

To make it more desert-ish ig? Like, big useless sand thing

[gray bear]

You mean expanded? Idk

[median dune]

okay this is probs gonna be a tricky one, but is there a known way to sort of make an another accessible inventory? I had a thought abt if it's possible to make some hidden chest but I don't know if it's then possible to access it remotely

[lucid iron]

Global inventory is your friend

[median dune]

it sounds more straight forward than I believe stardew code to be

I will look into it

[mystic sparrow]

mmm is it possible to make npc sprites larger than 16x32? im looking to make a seagull npc soon but it would be easier to make one on a 32x32 sprite size.

[grand gale]

it is possible with C# but idk how

[mystic sparrow]

bleh id rather avoid learning C#

[naive wyvern]

never used it but people use this
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/999

[slender badger]

You can if you use Sprites in Detail, but it's kinda finicky and the documentation isn't great

[mystic sparrow]

maybe ill just stick with 16x32

[naive wyvern]

dunno if theres alternate ways aside portraiture tho
nvm I misread uhgfdsuigsf

[slender badger]

Portraiture's just for portraits though, not sprites

[lucid iron]

Do you want the NPC to be bigger than 16x32 and move properly

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/22941

[mystic sparrow]

yeah i was thinking of modifying the seagull sprites that are already in the game, and they seem to be 32x32

[naive wyvern]

sorry i just kinda woke up from a power nap
sprites in detail is usually the go-to as Airyn says (addendum Chu's rec is also rly nice)
My god im out of it today maybe I need more nap

[mystic sparrow]

interesting...

[lucid iron]

Sprites in detail lets u give more sizes

But uh, it's cursed in calendar and social tab above certain threshold

[grand gale]

is there a way to add any pickle to a cooking recipe? there is no category for them so i suppose not...

[lucid iron]

Spacecore pickled_items

[mystic sparrow]

well id like to avoid adding dependencies to my mod if i can...

thanks for the suggestions ill consider those mods hah

[calm nebula]

Well, pickles have a unique ID so

[calm nebula]

Your choice. Your own c#, or dependencies

[slender badger]

Alternatively, Better Crafting also allows context tags as ingredients

[lucid iron]

Or become one of those wizards who get 100% more pixel per pixel out of their sprites

[calm nebula]

pickles are just item 342

[grand gale]

got it thanks

[calm nebula]

I have no clue why people are making it overcomplicated

[lucid iron]

Tbh i was thinking of other pickled items from mods

[calm nebula]

also tbh a seagull feels like it should fit in 16x16 anyways

[lucid iron]

But yes atra is correct it should work if u just put in id

[slender badger]

I assumed the game would be weird about it 😆

[calm nebula]

unless you want it to spread its wings occasionally, in which case you can take advantage of birdie's fishing animation XD

[grand gale]

but does it count all kinds of pickles?

[lucid iron]

Pickles are a flavored item

All of them r id 342

You just won't get cornucopia kimichi for instance

Because those are separate new item

[grand gale]

okay thank you

[mystic sparrow]

ok i made the seagull fit on a 16x32

[slender badger]

Cute! I'd recommend moving the legs left one pixel though, the seagull looks a touch unbalanced at the moment

[brittle pasture]

I think the chat collectively read the question as "use this specific pickle flavor in recipe"

which is a common query

but it's any pickle so yeah just 342

[true coyote]

man

why do some custom items get loaded and others are edit image

[brittle pasture]

is that a question regarding your own mod or...?

[true coyote]

why is this so confusing and difficult TT__TT why are there no guides/references on what goes in each of these jsons and how its formatted

yeah

I've been trying to figure this fence coding out for like

a week and a half now? but theres no custom item fences on nexus with the new cp changes for me to reference

[gray bear]

good news everyone(?): the omni chicken can lay fences

[true coyote]

and I guess referencing SVE's is no bueno because its kinda spaghetti?

or something..

[gray bear]

ah well you will need a pickace to pick up fences-

which category would craftables be

[brittle pasture]

do you have code you need help with

[gray bear]

if you send us the code and tell us exactly what you want done we can assist. otherwise

[true coyote]

yeah, I'm I've just been trying to piece together what I can but I dont think any of it really makes sense. Like looking at sve's custom fence its "load" and the target is... itself? and cornucopia's crops are editimage and targeting SDV's data

[brittle pasture]

Load is for when you're trying load a new asset, like a tilesheet

I don't remember what Cornucopia' EditImages are for but I assume those are conditional edits depending on a config

you dont use EditImage to load a custom tilesheet by itself, only edit it after loading

[true coyote]

I'm guessing I probably have my files janky for the target then, most of my base tilesheets have the same name in different folders for different recolors and variations, so using "Target": "Mods/{{Mod ID}}/Picket Fence" feels like its not going to work

although the file path directly to it is just the vanilla item, that I chose

[lucid iron]

Well u need modid

[true coyote]

so I guess that removes the conflict>?

[gray bear]

the target location doesn't have anything to do with your files

[lucid iron]

But assuming u r add new fence you have to Load your texture somewhere b4 u can use

[gray bear]

        {
            "Action": "Load",
            "Target": "{{ModID}}/Fence",
            "FromFile": "[file path with file extension]"
        }```

after you're loaded the texture changing it is just an editimage and bam seasonal fences

[true coyote]

for objects > display name and description, if im not using an i18n do I just type out whatever I want the display name and descrip to be?

[brittle pasture]

yes
(still, recommend using i18n if able)

[median dune]

I'm having extreme trouble checking whether the crops are fully grown and ready to harvest

fullyGrown value of a crop is... weird and unreliable to say the least

and it doesn't let me compare the current phase with amount of phases

[lucid iron]

    public static bool CanHarvest(this Crop crop)
    {
        return !crop.dead.Value
            && (crop.currentPhase.Value >= (crop.phaseDays.Count - 1))
            && (!crop.fullyGrown.Value || crop.dayOfCurrentPhase.Value <= 0);
    }

[median dune]

okay I see where I went wrong

thanks a lot

[true coyote]

hmm.. stardrop isnt seeing my mod

[true coyote]

well, i cant figure out why it cant see it in my mod folder. i'll just go make bread in the meantime to think about it

[true coyote]

well stardrop log says something about a json exception but doesnt say which json ... "expected start of a property name or value, but instead reached end of data"

[drowsy pewter]

please share the whole log ^^

[true coyote]

stardrop's log? cause it wont even load in for a smapi log

[drowsy pewter]

well if it doesnt load in then smapi should tell you why

[true coyote]

it wont load into stardrop

so I cant even run it in smapi

[drowsy pewter]

idk how stardrop works, can you just cut out the middleman and test it directly?

[true coyote]

https://smapi.io/log/8de290f3f5b246d19c9680df2c4a773b

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 0 C# mods and 0 content packs.

[tawny ore]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[tawny ore]

Put your manifest.json into here to validate

This will tell you why the manifest isn't loading by SMAPI or Stardrop

[true coyote]

https://smapi.io/json/manifest/9026914058bb49acb2dbb7ef64febfaf

Idk why its having a hard time with the content pack, its no different than my other manifests there afaik. let me look at another one see if im missing or deleted a comma or bracket somewhow

[tawny ore]

You're missing the end bracket

Fixed https://smapi.io/json/manifest/5edb2621c31d438db7910ff2573e56d2

[true coyote]

im so confused, it looks like you just put in an extra line after the nexus key, cause my [ ] is closed and I have the same amount of brackets

[lucid iron]

The end bracket is }

Line 14

[true coyote]

I'm not gonna question it, I know I had that closing bracket there lol

even had my husband look

[tawny ore]

Look at line 12 (left) vs 14 (right)

[true coyote]

right, I see that, I might have missed it when copy pasting instead of taking the time to load it through the file, but its been there. I wont argue (further?), brackets be brackets every time, thank you for pointing it out

[tawny ore]

Yeah, just trying to point out what would be the error in the file you shared since it wasn't loading by Stardrop or SMAPI, and what you shared is all I have to go on

[true coyote]

thank you. its clear I need to go back to bed

and it doesnt show in the item spawner

and no errors

https://tenor.com/view/guapojjh-gif-22107652

[mighty quest]

Is there a mod for 1.6 that skips the farm cave and pet events?
I remember there being one by Blueberry but I can't find it

[true coyote]

do I need anything else besides fences.json objects.json and craftingrecipes.json?

[tawny ore]

This probably goes without saying, but you also need a content.json

[true coyote]

yes I do have that lol

[tawny ore]

You can try doing a patch export to make sure your changes are listed in the file, as long as they're there, CJB Item Spawner should see them

[lucid iron]

You gotta include all ur jsons ofc

[tawny ore]

In fact, I think all CJB Item Spawner needs is objects.json

Another thing you can try is if the debug command works since that doesn't depend on CJB Item Spawner

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Console_commands#player_add

[lucid iron]

This log doesn't have content patcher Installed

It's got 0 mods actually

[tawny ore]

Oh... yeah that would be a problem

[true coyote]

it sees it now, it wasnt seeing it then cause of the missing bracket + I had mods turned off on the test profile but when I turned on at least one other mod, cp turned on automatically

but now it doesnt throw errors but its def not loading in my fence

[lucid iron]

Send new log

[true coyote]

https://smapi.io/log/b11adb5b97ed4ec3bfbb06712af40793 lol im so tired my brain has 3 whole wrinkles

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 5 C# mods and 1 content packs.

[true coyote]

I'm just guessing I've done something wrong in one of the data jsons, they seem... empty but it is just one item

[tawny ore]

I don't know if this is something which only appears in the verbose logs, but I don't see anything in here about Data/Objects, Data/Fences or Data/CraftingRecipes being edited

And in my logs, when I'm applying edits to those assets, it has something about that

Like this:

You don't have anything like that, so Content Patcher is not applying your edits to any of the files

[true coyote]

Idont know what I'm missing

I could say my content is missing more but I'm not sure what it'd be missing

[tawny ore]

smapi.io/json can also validate your content files

[lucid iron]

You need to include all ur files and target the right things

[rigid musk]

So just to clarify you have a content json that is loading each of your other separate ones right?

something like this inside of it

[true coyote]

I'm doing it now, the guides for adding a new item and everything it needs like this are... bare bones

I'll have to get back to it another time tonight or tomorrow, gotta head to the gym and then toddler will be home soon after that

[rigid musk]

For a CP mod that adds an entirely new fence you would need the data for the fence, the fence texture, the object itself, and then the recipe i think

I believe in you!

you can come back here for help if you need it :3

[true coyote]

I'm like, 100005% dumb to this stuff and it feels like a lot of the wiki tutorials I see are "rest of the f*ing owl" geared for those that know what they're doing and not small brains like me that need my hand held through every step lol

ah there we go, now theres errors 🙃

[rigid musk]

It's okay! I understand completely - when I first started modding everything looked like gibberish

[true coyote]

lol this error

expected an unexpected character except the line its in looks identical to the other two include actions that its not throwing a fit about

[rigid musk]

sometimes it requires things a little 'weirdly' or just in a specific way

I use comic sans on my coding app because it helps differentiate stuff easy so i can see it lol

[true coyote]

like this is the line it has an issue with "FromFile": "data/Objects.json" with an unexpected " in position 2, but its identical to the next two and I only have the one set of " and not like, french keyboard quotes or anything

ok anyway I'm going afk now

[rigid musk]

do you have the comma at the end

[true coyote]

Of this line no, off the top of my head for the previous line I couldn't tell you atm. I'll be back home in like an hour or so

[glass gust]

Hey gamers idk if this is the right place to ask this at but I am having issues w my npc mod's introduction dialogue? For some reason instead of saying her intro she just does this

[rigid musk]

could you share the snippit of code that is her introduction?

like how the line looks

[glass gust]

Introduction: $1 @, Is it really you? Oh, it worked! #$e# I noticed you playing Stardew quite a bit, so I couldn't help but want to surprise you! I hope that's okay!

[rigid musk]

your portrait should go at the end of the line

so: "@, Is it really you? Oh, it worked!$1#$e#"

[glass gust]

Ohhhh!

tysm

[rigid musk]

No problem!

[rocky copper]

Does anyone know if there's a way in Content Patcher to apply a "Condition" to a true or false property?

[lucid iron]

Depends on the context

[rocky copper]

It's the "IsPaddyCrop" property on crops. For context, I'd like to make certain crops behave as paddy crops on the Farm but not on the Island. I can make the edit itself apply conditionally, but that ends up applying the change to crops planted in both locations based on my condition, so either both are paddy crops or neither are. I'm trying to get the game to check whether it's a paddy crop based on the location it's planted in.

[ocean sail]

@rocky copper You leveled up to Cowpoke. You can now speak in our voice channels and share images in all channels!

[rocky copper]

A game query for Location_Name would work if I could apply that condition to "IsPaddyCrop", and that's the part I'm not sure if I can do

[lucid iron]

You need C# for this I think

The thing about content patcher is that it is generally unable to edit instances of objects

Only the data which control some particular template of an object

[wanton pebble]

A dynamic token outputting true or false would not work for this instance I think

And if a value is true or false rather than game state query, Which some fields are, Then you have to use a dynamic token in order to have anything more than true and false.

So yes I think chu is right And you would need C#

[rocky copper]

Hmm. Darn.

Thank you guys

[scarlet ether]

Does anyone know the general area of the unfolding grass/leaf tiles in the outdoor map tilesheets? The first one is easy to find, but I can't seem to find the second part of the animation so I can eliminate it. D:

Nvm, I think I found it. OoO

[true coyote]

now I have a bracket error, also if there's anything else missing (there probably is tbh...) please let me know https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/3e8f2abd10fd482f97b37e7b1baa7a2a I'm not sure whats wrong with the bracket on line 38 as it does have a closing bracket for the section..

or am I missing the comma on the ending bracket above it?

[tiny zealot]

yeah you're missing the comma on 35

[true coyote]

I wish teh validator would just say that lol pointing me to a different bracket and complaining about it instead of saying "yo you need a comma here instead" would be less confusing (for my brain) BUT I understand theres a reason it parses and points out things the way it does

ok one step closer

its in the game, but I've seemed to neglected to have it load the image in correctly, somewhere

[tiny zealot]

the error message could certainly be better! (for example, if { is an unexpected character, perhaps you could tell us what character was expected?)
but there's only so much that can be done when whitespace is a free-for-all

[true coyote]

I've pointed to the tilesheet it needs to grab in the fences json and loaded that in the content, but should it be in the content as well? or perhaps maybe my fences json isnt right?

[uncut viper]

it cant know that it was expecting a comma, though, and guessing would confuse people more

[tiny zealot]

by definition, if the parser can barf by not finding one of the valid characters, it knows which ones would have been valid

[uncut viper]

but it doesnt know which one

it can know which list of ones

[tiny zealot]

surely it could list them

e.g. "expected one of: , ]" or whatever

[true coyote]

ok so the error is in the objects json i believe... i saw that in other mods adding custom items for the sprite it was laid out "texture":{{Mod ID}}/tilesheet name I thought it'd need to be a file path though...

[uncut viper]

its an asset name

[teal bridge]

It's not always a single character like that, and parsers generally aren't going to dump the entire grammar rules like "expected <OBJECT> or <ATTRIBUTE>" since users won't know what that means anyway.

[uncut viper]

its only a file path if you're using internalassetkey, which you shouldnt be

(or rather its not recommended you do)

[true coyote]

mm, so I do have the thing above

[uncut viper]

you need to Load your image somewhere and use its target as your texture

[true coyote]

but it threw https://smapi.io/log/1c4c8e1bb6024c97b1788e0f80693b04

I have the asset loading in fence json where it was also being loaded in SVE for their fences, since thats the only reference i have atm

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 5 C# mods and 1 content packs.

[true coyote]

should i load it elsewhere?

[uncut viper]

you havent shown what you tried

[true coyote]

what I tried where? objects json? fence json?

[uncut viper]

yes. can't receive help with your objects or fence jsons if you don't send the jsons

[true coyote]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/9b1a1ee38d474f10b43ca3c028416ebb fences
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/aec8664368ce4ec9bf772d06c1022f9d objects

[rigid musk]

I thought fence data looked different than that

[uncut viper]

You didn't put "Mods/" at the front in the objects json texture field

[rigid musk]

I've never made a fence before though lol

[true coyote]

sve had it but cornucopia doesnt, maybe because its crops? idk

anyway slapped that in

[uncut viper]

are you talking about the texture field or are you responding to Lily?

[true coyote]

texture field, sorry

man.. my thing isnt aligned I guess

[uncut viper]

then it doesn't matter what sve or cornucopia or any other mods do. You made up the asset name

When you wrote the Target line in your fence json

That's you creating an asset with that asset name

The target is the asset name

You use that asset name whenever you want to use that asset such as in a texture field

You could've named it "ssadmdhfak" for all the game cares

The only reason people put "Mods/" in their asset names is because they felt like it and/or were mimicking what someone else did

[rigid musk]

It also depends on where you personally store your files.. theoretically you could put them in a folder named Chicken and could load it from there

[uncut viper]

The asset name doesn't depend on that at all

[rigid musk]

I put the Mods/ thing because it makes sense in my brain

No I'm talking about the include for the asset sorry

You could also name the asset chicken though

[calm nebula]

It used to be the standard and I'm old and lazy?

[drowsy pewter]

include is for json files not for image assets

[calm nebula]

And I've updated jack of all lol

I kinda feel bad

[uncut viper]

i would call that "because you felt like it and were mimicking other people"

[calm nebula]

I could release GIMA and atracore, I think Lyoko was testing it for me 1.6.8 without issuss

[rigid musk]

Huh.. I coulda sworn i have an include for some of the qi images I have

[uncut viper]

You can have an include that includes a file that has loads

The include itself does not create an asset or asset name

[true coyote]

I think what's left is adjusting my tilesheet, its only showing a small part of it in the bottom right of the 16x16 which is weird since I was 100% sure I had it aligned correctly. I'll have to go back and do a more thorough approach tomorrow

[hallow prism]

(it was also a good practice to be sure the thing wouldn't conflict with future updates of the game)

[uncut viper]

it would still not conflict if the thing immediately after Mods/ was your unique id

[hallow prism]

yeah, but it predates the use of unique id as a more global identifier

pathos recommanded it at some point which is why it's used by several people, i for ex kept the habit in some cases

[uncut viper]

is following a standard practice not just "mimicking what other people are doing" though

[hoary scroll]

Hello, I am trying to recompile the skateboard mod since the current version isn't in support anymore and I get this error after it compiled properly and I loaded it into the mods folder:

[Skateboard] Mod crashed on entry and might not work correctly. Technical details:
HarmonyLib.HarmonyException: Patching exception in method null
 ---> ArgumentException: Undefined target method for patch method static System.Void Skateboard.CraftingPage_Patch::Prefix(StardewValley.Menus.CraftingPage __instance)
   at HarmonyLib.PatchClassProcessor.PatchWithAttributes(MethodBase& lastOriginal)
   at HarmonyLib.PatchClassProcessor.Patch()
   --- End of inner exception stack trace ---
   at HarmonyLib.PatchClassProcessor.ReportException(Exception exception, MethodBase original)
   at HarmonyLib.PatchClassProcessor.Patch()
   at HarmonyLib.Harmony.<PatchAll>b__10_0(Type type)
   at HarmonyLib.Harmony.PatchAll(Assembly assembly)
   at Skateboard.ModEntry.Entry(IModHelper helper) in /Users/talperets/development/StardewValleyMods/Skateboard/ModEntry.cs:line 53
   at StardewModdingAPI.Framework.SCore.LoadMods(IModMetadata[] mods, JsonHelper jsonHelper, ContentCoordinator contentCore, ModDatabase modDatabase) in /home/pathoschild/git/SMAPI/src/SMAPI/Framework/SCore.cs:line 1861

[uncut viper]

the point was that its not a technical requirement

[tawny ore]

I don't do the "Mods/" thing because trying to shave off some unnecessary characters and my thought is my mod's unique id is already uniquely mine. If that ever did conflict with someone else, I think they would have some explaining to do.

[uncut viper]

i mean if it doesnt work anymore its bc its broken. you need to fix it

expect one to many errors about it trying to do things it no longer cant or use functions that no longer exist

[hallow prism]

i feel it's a bit different! and just liked the opportunity of give a bit of SDV modding lore 😄

[hoary scroll]

lol I know
I am just asking if anyone have seen similar errors when using Harmony

[uncut viper]

yes. it means its looking for a method to patch and cant find it.

"Undefined target method"

[tawny ore]

I'm curious why Skateboard needed to prefix the CraftingPage. Seems like it's due for more substantial changes to play nicely in 1.6.

[uncut viper]

you also didnt ask that you just said you got that error, so my apologies for interpreting it as you just wondering why

[tawny ore]

A lot of C# mods had to do a lot of cursed things pre-1.6 that are no longer necessary

[hoary scroll]

Good question, honestly I have near 0 experience with C# or with making mods in general, I am just a webdev that loves stardew valley and misses the skateboard

[tawny ore]

Could be a good opportunity to learn if you're interested, I didn't have any C# experience prior to modding

[hoary scroll]

For sure, I am happy to learn

[tawny ore]

Looks like someone already updated it

[hoary scroll]

Oh, where exactly did you find it?

[tawny ore]

Oh wait, nvm. The list is outdated.

I clicked the link to the mod page and it's taken down due to issues the author couldn't fix.

Anyway, technically an illegal mod since it is not following the GPL-3.0 by not providing the source for their changes.

[rancid musk]

Without looking at the code my wild guess is crafting page patches for rendering

[hoary scroll]

you mean here?

[tawny ore]

Which shouldn't technically be needed anymore, right? Because you can just create an object entry with all the details needed.

[rancid musk]

Oh wow that first patch is extra dumb lmao

But yeah, that's exactly it.

[calm nebula]

You can use the grumbles qualified ID in crafting page now

My head hurts so I'm not coherent

[tawny ore]

Yeah, that's... interesting. Even in pre-1.6 that wasn't really necessary.

[rancid musk]

It's not even slightly necessary. Just put your code in a day started event. No harmony patch.

And you don't even need code at all in 1.6 for adding a recipe.

(If you even did in 1.5?)

[tawny ore]

This is why I think 99% of the time Harmony is a crutch

It's like a lot of modders opt for Harmony as the easy answer rather than thinking through what SMAPI's API allows you to do

[hoary scroll]

I am not sure what you mean

[tawny ore]

AH, it's just modders bickering

[hoary scroll]

Like to remove the whole patch?

[tawny ore]

A prefix to add a crafting recipe is excessive when the same can be accomplished a simpler way

[calm nebula]

We have standards!

Standards I say!

[rancid musk]

CraftingPage_Patch should be completely removed. There are better ways to do what it does.

And I don't think CraftingPage_layoutRecipes_Patch is necessary at this point either.

[hoary scroll]

So basically remove the entire snippet I have sent earlier?

[rancid musk]

Yes.

[tawny ore]

For what it does, I'd think only the farmer patches are really needed. And even then, there are probably ways that the same could be replicated in smapi events.

[hoary scroll]

Alright I will try it now

Because there are a lot of unrecognized methods there

Like I removed two and now got errors for another 10

[uncut viper]

well, then its not going to work...

[tawny ore]

The jist of it is you want a placeable object, which is possible using only 1.6's data now instead of patches. You need to be able to modify the acceleration/friction for the player, and draw the object below them.

You need to make sure all of that can still happen.

The acceleration stuff can just happen by scheduling updateticking events while the player is using the skateboard

Drawing the skateboard under the player probably still requires a prefix patch on the farmer draw method

[hoary scroll]

I have another silly question, is there a way to see if the mod is crashing or not without recompiling and replacing it in the mod folder?

[tawny ore]

You can hit Debug which recompiles into the mod folder and runs the game

[lusty elm]

I figured out while I'm sleepy, no caffeine today

[tawny ore]

I consume caffeine as if it's medically necessary

[calm nebula]

There is some blood in my coffeestream

God my head hurts

[blissful panther]

All of you people with your caffeine-works-on-you superpowers. /j

[brittle ledge]

No kidding, what's that like.

[calm nebula]

There were a few days in November when my heart rate went to the low 90s and would not come back down

[tawny ore]

I mean, it still works on me because I basically dose it. Two cups a day at 8am and 1pm to remain functional.

[blissful panther]

Tell you what, yeah, that I can do. I'll put the feature on the back burner for MEEP, and just strip out the stuff required for this to be included with your mod for ease.

[blissful panther]

If I have about 3 energy drinks in the span of a few hours I might feel something? Otherwise, I'll just have a coffee as a nice bed time drink.

[dusk mulch]

Thank you for being patient with me 😅

[blissful panther]

I will call this to-be-included-with-your-mod mini mod PEEM.

[hoary scroll]

Alright so update, there are no errors but there is also no skateboard, I definetly need to understand it acutally works because so far I was blindly modifying the code based on errors and common sense

Like this is my first time doing anything in C#, but thanks for the help and I will try again at a later time

[unborn fog]

Hi there, I had a question and I was direted from Modded Farmers to here.

Basically, I have FTaR (Fancy Trash and Resources) on my save and quite enjoy the textures. However, I want to change / swap the "Stone Outside", "Stone Outside2", "Stone Outside Big", "Tree Branch 1", "Tree Branch 2", "Tree Branch Big", and "Tree Trunk Big" with the assets from BR (Better Resources.) I was directed here to ask how I should do this since I've never modified a texture mod and don't want to break my game.

[brittle ledge]

(Don't worry too much about breaking the game, it's very break-proof the worst you can do is mess up the textures, but not permanently)

[hallow prism]

it's unlikely you'll break anything with editing texture

worse case? you'll make a backup and reinstall the mod

[unborn fog]

So how would I go about this? Also thanks for the reassurance ^^

[brittle ledge]

Depends on how both mods are set up - the easiest way might be to give BR a false dependency on FTaR to force it to load after BR https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_How_to_Add_a_False_Dependency_for_Load_Orders

[lusty elm]

On the Topic of caffiene, I add a single serving bag of black tea (get 100 for a dollar from the dollar store) to my cup of super watered down tea (which I make in gallon batches daily) in the morning, as Micro dosing on caffiene helps ppl with ADD focus, and it helps me wake me up a lil in the morning as i'm not a morning person. Takes me like an hour to wake up naturally on some days.

[gentle rose]

I think low 90s is my baseline and I don't even drink coffee

[meager shadow]

Might anyone know what may be causing my NPC's events to not show up in Event Lookup? When I pull up their page from the relationships menu, it is empty, despite them having all of their heart events working in-game!

[rigid musk]

do the events have heart requirements?

I know that one of them doesnt show up for Qi because it doesnt actually have a heart requirement

[meager shadow]

Yep! They all do.

[winter dust]

All it does for me is keep me awake.

[dusk mulch]

does the motorcycle get pulled from the "SpringOutdoors" tilesheet when you marry Sebastian?

to put it on the little cove?

[rigid musk]

How interesting... and all of the events work as intended? (I know you sayd they work in game I'm just trying to double check, you do have to reach the requirements for it to trigger them right?)

are you talking about the one in his spouse patio?

@dusk mulch

[dusk mulch]

yeah

[rigid musk]

I believe that's the one

[dusk mulch]

awesome, ty!

[calm nebula]

My usual resting is low 50s/high 40s

[gentle rose]

tbf I'm on a super high dose of ADHD meds but also I don't exercise so but a heart rate in the 40s/50s sounds nice

[unborn fog]

Got the coding part done with the tutorial, however, my queston now just incase something goes wrong. How does one back-up their saves?

[iron ridge]

!saves

[ocean sail]

Use this guide if you want to find your save file or transfer it between platforms:
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Saves.

To use this command, type !saves.

[spice inlet]

What could be cool alternative themes for bundles?
Up for suggestions

[hallow prism]

for the ui?

[spice inlet]

ui or new bundle types 😄

[unborn fog]

Thank yous :D

[patent folio]

we could always need more UI options ofc

[hallow prism]

hmm, i'd kinda like a way to pick between rewards but this may be hard to do

(and a bit niche to be honest)

(at least for bundle, for something more "regular" this would work better)

[spice inlet]

hm, you could probably ask the player in a event about what reward they want?

unless you're thinking about something specific 😄

[lusty elm]

I mean you could always have the bundle give you a "Shop Coin" then go to that "Shop" for your reward and have variety there.

[spice inlet]

that's a pretty neat approach

[lucid iron]

What if u let ppl do custom versions of the island fossil

To do this i imagine the content pack needs to tell u the desired x,y coord to put their (set of) donate ui things at, and a custom bg texture

[spice inlet]

that's a really neat idea, but it'd also require the content pack author to create said bg ui

could work

[dusk mulch]

yall i cant find a mod in the depo i wana do

helpppp

[rigid musk]

you could just make something

doesnt have to be from anything

[dusk mulch]

ive got creative block, idk what to make

i was thinking of a map...

[hard fern]

you could always brainstorm something, like what would seem fun to try

[dusk mulch]

i will do a map

what is that username-

[rigid musk]

chaos

what map are you gonna make :D

[dusk mulch]

hmmmm im thinking redoing the beach

[lucid iron]

You must fight other map mods then

[rigid musk]

just specify it aint compatible with them

you could also try to be compatible but you really dont HAVE to ... it would limit the amount of people who would download it though

[dusk mulch]

• • • V3D5W23.14159265359Z?!P3R4K4HA3QbirdB2OXTM2N4IS is typing...

[dusk mulch]

hm...

[hoary lake]

Mod idea (addition to happy birthday mod): instead of getting one card per person on your birthday. you get one massive card from the area with each person writing their own little message on it. one from ridgeside, one from east scarp....one from.....you get the idea.

[dusk mulch]

i think i will take a break for now

[hoary lake]

also Hi friends!
i am in here for a change.

[blissful panther]

Ben is here!

The username's great.

[rigid musk]

each special order has a corresponding mail flag right?

trying to get it so that you need to have completed a previous one to get another one and i think the best way to do that IS with the mail flags (since iirc using when conditions with special orders is a bit borked)

[gentle rose]

?

[dusk mulch]

the username was a bit funky

[gentle rose]

ben’s username is great

[hallow prism]

i don't know if there's a flag for each SO, or only for some that set one

[hoary lake]

my username is a combination of...i believe 52 usernames now?
the only reason i stopped was becuase the discord devs refuse to let me have a longer name with more characters...

[blissful panther]

Who was the interrobang for!?

(That being ‽ for anyone uninitiated on the interrobang.)

[rigid musk]

I'm wondering where the pi symbol and the frog come in

[hallow prism]

i'm more curious about why it looks like a frog but the copy pasted name mentions a bird

[fading walrus]

Frog is Kam

[blissful panther]

I do know who the frog is...

Damn it.

[fading walrus]

Forg

I do not remember who the interrobang is for

Possibly Logo?

[blissful panther]

That... actually feels like it fits.

Ah yeah, given there's no L in there... I think that might be it!

[fading walrus]

[rigid musk]

is there a way to do an either or thing with the required tags for special orders? I want to make it so that the player either has to have the hardmode skull caverns or the hardmode mines active but i think if i put both (so rule_MINE_HARD
and rule_SC_HARD) that would make it so they have to have both active

I suppose i could, alternatively, just have the special order activate those but i dont know if that would unlock the hardmode caverns/mines if the player hasnt already done that quest

[hallow prism]

try a /

i know it works on required tag

i don't think it'll work on rules

(to clarify i know it works on required tags of the item to donate. I am doubtful it's used in other places but if it is it's likely the format used)

[rigid musk]

Like this?

[hallow prism]

yes

[rigid musk]

we shall see :]

if it doesnt work I'll just make it so that both the hardmode mines and caverns becomes active with the quest and pretend that might not break progression in a sense

[cosmic thorn]

seems like i cant add a texture for an item like that, how should i do?

                   "Price": 2000,
                    "Texture": "assets/img/test.png",

[hallow prism]

what is the context?

[hoary lake]

i believe the pi is...outsideofthebox?
and the interrobang is...Logo friend becuase at the time, we thought the emoticons didn't count as characters. Logo friend chose the interrobang becuase "it's my favourite character"

[hallow prism]

usually items need a pair of
"Texture": "Mods\Lumisteria.MtVapius\Jewels",
"SpriteIndex": 0,

then

either you load your texture

or you use internal assets

which is explained somewhere on the wiki

[latent mauve]

Y'all might know, is RequiredTags in the Machine OutputRules > Triggers supposed to accept category_x context tags, or are those excluded?

[hallow prism]

should be fine

[latent mauve]

Trying to figure out if I just wrote my code wrong or if it hates clothing as an input item

which is valid

[Content Patcher] Can't apply data patch "(CP) Laundry Machines > EditData Data/Machines #4 > entry #1" to Data/Machines: failed converting entry to the expected type 'StardewValley.GameData.Machines.MachineOutputRule': Error converting value "category_clothing" to type 'System.Collections.Generic.List`1[System.String]'. Path 'Triggers[0].RequiredTags'..

lemme post my json real quick

[hallow prism]

  "(BC)FishSmoker": {
    "HasInput": false,
    "HasOutput": false,
    "InteractMethod": null,
    "OutputRules": [
      {
        "Id": "SmokedFish",
        "Triggers": [
          {
            "Id": "ItemPlacedInMachine",
            "Trigger": "ItemPlacedInMachine",
            "RequiredItemId": null,
            "RequiredTags": [
              "category_fish"
            ],
            "RequiredCount": 1,
            "Condition": null
          }
        ],```
(vanilla quick example)

now, no idea if there's a category_clothing

[latent mauve]

there is, I held a shirt and did listtags to check

[calm nebula]

It's saying use list

[hallow prism]

(but since tags can be arbitrary this shouldn't cause issue anyway)

[uncut viper]

"Error converting value" means you've got the wrong data type yeah

[latent mauve]

....I forgot the [ ], thank you atra

[lusty elm]

I should probably add warps to this map... it is 155x200, and Everfarm is 200x155 >.> yeah, scribbles on to-do list

[latent mauve]

inputting the shirt still doesn't work, but at least it's not an error in the log now.

My brain is mush today, but this is what I'm trying: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/25edd85fefc24a78a238ecd1a62b23ff

oops, found the possible error maybe

(mismatched ID values) nevermind, still not working to let me input a clothing item

[cosmic thorn]

By the way, does the dialogues with a specific items(as a gift) work or for this one still need a plugin in the 1.6.

[rigid musk]

you can do specific item dialogue

for gifts

is the GSQ generated for special order tags that are added just the ID of the special order

[cosmic thorn]

i see

[rigid musk]

I.e. if I wanted to do a GSQ for my special order would it be 'PLAYER_SPECIAL_ORDER_COMPLETE <name of my special order>'

[dire canopy]

How do I make OR queries on CP?
I tried:
"When": {"Query: '{{AllowSilkwormTreat}}' OR '{{AllowSilkwormMeat}}'": true}, and got ```[19:42:36 WARN Content Patcher] Ignored CP AHM TrentNewAnimals > Include Data/silkworm.json: the When field is invalid: Can't parse ''true' OR 'true'' as a math expression: Cannot perform 'Or' operation on System.String and System.String.

Tried:
```"When": {"Query: '{{AllowSilkwormTreat:true}}' OR '{{AllowSilkwormMeat:true}}'": true},``` Didn't work (also tried  putting the true in quote)

[calm nebula]

Get rid of the single quotes

[dire canopy]

but do I use the first or the second model?

[calm nebula]

First

[dire canopy]

thanks!

[hallow prism]

The id rather than the name and you will likely need the player argument before

[rigid musk]

Yeah I meant the ID sorry (like the 'internal' name) and I know id need all the other stuff when adding a GSQ i just wasnt sure if the tag generated would just be said ID

[light bramble]

So me and a friend are working on an expansion mod that at the moment uses 4 different frameworks (Content patcher, Farm Type Manager, More Nightly Events, and Unlockable Bundles) My question is should we separate each part of the mod using each framework into separate folders

[hallow prism]

I believe it is

I think i used it this way once

[hallow prism]

Ftm yes. Cp can have ub as include

Not sure for mne

Dont make more manifests that you strictly need to imo

[uncut viper]

if something uses content patcher for its frameworkiness then i would put them all in one content patcher mod

easy way to get into dependency hell otherwise

[light bramble]

But I would still have to include the other two frameworks as dependancies tho right?

[hallow prism]

If they are mandatory yes

If they are optional an include on hasmod check may suffice

I have both kind on vmv

[light bramble]

The annoying this is the frameworks have options to work with CP. But like wouldn't you NEED the framework for the code within the content.json to work???

[hallow prism]

What is annoying?

[light bramble]

You said if they were mandatory, but unless we don't have them then the mod won't work?

[uncut viper]

if you have things locked behind HasMod conditions then it doesnt matter if the mod is there or not

if its not installed the patch is never checked and it doesnt need to work

[hallow prism]

And usually yes you need a framework to get the effect of a framework. But not all mods need all the framework feature

I dont know your project

In vmv i have optional bush bloom features

[light bramble]

OHHHH I got confused by your wording

Sorry XD

They will be required for the mod XD

[hallow prism]

Player dont have it? The mod works but not the bush bloom feature

Ok

Then, yes. Its a dependency

[light bramble]

Unfortunately since me or Frost DO NOT want to mess with C# code we will be having some dependency hell....

[hallow prism]

I dont think 3 is hell

[light bramble]

We thought we were gonna have to use the mail framework mod but I think that functionality got slurped into CP

[light bramble]

*4

[lucid iron]

have you seen the dependency lists on any expansion

[hallow prism]

It was already pretty much cp, just tricky

[light bramble]

YEs...SVE

[hallow prism]

Cp isnt a dependency

[lucid iron]

sve is an outlier for doing a lot of bespoke C# stuff

you said you aren't doing that so frameworks it is

[light bramble]

I get that...but without it no mod...sooo doesn't that make it a dependency???

[lucid iron]

yea it would be a required dependency

[drowsy pewter]

4 is so little lol

[uncut viper]

i mean, then you're also counting SMAPI as a dependency

and the game itself

also, an operating system

you can use a false dependency for keyboards and other peripherals

[hallow prism]

I mean, i get its a shortcut for required mod to say dependency especially from user viewpoint

[lucid iron]

for CP based frameworks the idea is usually

you can edit this special given asset to tell framework what do

if the framework is not there though, nothing happens bc no one's there to process request

[reef kiln]

Having a dependency has never stopped me from downloading a mod. Well, unless it is an outdated one like JA or a few others.

[normal trout]

(same though tbh)

[hallow prism]

While i get the feeling of being overwhelmed it happens when its a lot of unusual requirement in my experience

Cp and ftm are basics

[calm nebula]

(Sve doesn't have a lot of bespoke c# stuff)

[reef kiln]

I recently converted all the PFM mod on my save to CP. I still use the mods, I just personally edited out the PFM requirements

[calm nebula]

The c# for sve is actually pretty small

[lucid iron]

ill never forgive them for doing whatever it is with traveling cart lady

[hallow prism]

Ub is quite common now i would say. Im not sure how widely night event is used but if players are interested in concept itll be not discouraging imo

[reef kiln]

What did they do to her? I have not noticed anything. What am I missing

[hard fern]

once you mod enough you'll have just about every framework

[lucid iron]

the portrait of suki (sve traveling cart lady) was patched into the shop menu constructor iirc

im not sure if this is still how it works

[hallow prism]

(Thanks 1.6 for easy shop portrait addition)

[lucid iron]

but it is why portraiture no work on her

[latent mauve]

I hope SVE doesn't still use that method, but who knows

[rigid musk]

knowing sve it still uses that method

i dont even know what method we're talking about but i sure do know how old that mod is

[lucid iron]

should prob clarify bespoke is more "specific niche thing" rather than general size of the C# component

[calm nebula]

You could send flash a PR

[brave fable]

so do i actually need to update this or what
someone mentioned it sometime ago but i didnt think it was still relevant

[reef kiln]

Flash is actually really good at helping make SVE compatible when asked.

[rigid musk]

I could also bring it up to him if someone needs it - he- i was literally typing that lmao

He's very kind about it surprisingly, if he has the time anyways

I think the farmcave one still can't be skipped blueberry but pets can

so only that part of it really

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/FlashShifter/StardewValleyExpanded/blob/be7e471a8090fced91007d6caf91380097d3a0b3/Code/ModEntry.cs#L428

[brave fable]

You see this cat here?

[reef kiln]

There is a mod to say no to the cave. But not skip the event entirely. I don't think

[lucid iron]

hm so would it work without any C# if we just make suki real antisocial npc

[brave fable]

i'd make it a very helpful ui for picking your pet/cave but also fuck that completely

[lucid iron]

and set her as cart shop owner with appearances n everything

[calm nebula]

You don't even need that

You can just set a portrait path iirc

[drowsy pewter]

yeah

[hallow prism]

Not always but this one should be overall pretty simple to change as long as someone can remove the uneeded c# part

As its the main obstacle i see to the change (knowing how to clean the code)

Adding portrait with cp is pretty easy and quick

Vmv has that for travelling cart

With a config option

[lucid iron]

yay ok

ill just PR then at least so im no longer bothered by this

[hallow prism]

I can even provide an example later today if you want (right now im on phone/about to go to sleep)

[lucid iron]

its ok i have vmv to look at

what is this custom fish pond color patch for

[brittle ledge]

in VMV?

might be for the legendaries because those default to purple I believe

[lucid iron]

in SVE

[calm nebula]

That was new to 1.6.9, remember

[brittle ledge]

might be the same reason

[lucid iron]

oh yea i was just read it wrong

for some reason i thought it did all fish but i dont recall that

mood

[calm nebula]

No. It just does a few sve fish

[brave fable]

speaking of PRs, if anyone is particularly attached to instant pets/farm caves

[calm nebula]

Sure, that could be in the data now but whatever

[brave fable]

i havent even looked at it

[lucid iron]

its interesting to look at how these things either became vanilla or became parts of more general frameworks

[brave fable]

the answer to how is data models. sweet, sweet data models

gorgeous data models

[dusk mulch]

What file defines how many friendship points a catagory/gift gives? (Or is it hardcoded)?

[brave fable]

that does not have a lovely data model 😌

[dusk mulch]

RAHHHHHHHHHH >:(

the 1 mod i wanted to make doesnt have the crucial part

[brave fable]

friendship gain/loss values, birthday bonuses, stardrop tea, etc. are all completely arbitrary

[mighty quest]

Anyone know what this means? I'm not great at CP

[Content Patcher] Can't apply data patch "Stardew Valley Balance Overhaul > EditData Data/Machines #39" to Data/Machines: the field '(BC)24' > 'OutputRules' > 'OutputItem' doesn't match an existing target

        {
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/Machines",
            "TargetField": ["(BC)24", "OutputRules", "Default_LargeEgg", "OutputItem", "#0"], //Mayonnaise Machine - Large Egg
            "Entries": {"MinStack": "2","MaxStack": "2", "Quality": "0"},
            "When": {"Animals": true, "Artisan Goods Gain Quantity": false}
        },

[sleek flint]

I am currently making a small and simple framework and I want modders to be able to just add keys to their Content Patcher's content file instead of having a whole new file just for this small framework. But I can't find any guides for it, if there is one can someone give me the link please?

[lucid iron]

outputitems iirc?

[calm nebula]

You can use $action in the dialogue though

[lucid iron]

hm nop outputitem is correct

[faint ingot]

So I'm working on rewrites to Pam's schedule and there's one thing I don't get. After the house upgrade, I can detect that and send her from her warp room to near her first destination in the house ('Trailer_Big'). But instead of going to that desination (couch) she always has to leave the house first and then come back in?

[lucid iron]

the log is strange bc u have ["(BC)24", "OutputRules", "Default_LargeEgg", "OutputItem", "#0"] but it doesn't say Default_LargeEgg

[dusk mulch]

whoah when do these get implemented in the game? (i havnt seen them before)

[brave fable]

if you haven't seen it, it's from 1.6. a few new cabins were added

[dusk mulch]

huh, alright

[mighty quest]

tbh I don't know which entry it is
there's one for each egg type so it could be any one of them

[Content Patcher] Can't apply data patch "Stardew Valley Balance Overhaul > EditData Data/Machines #39" to Data/Machines: the field '(BC)24' > 'OutputRules' > 'OutputItem' doesn't match an existing target
[Content Patcher] Can't apply data patch "Stardew Valley Balance Overhaul > EditData Data/Machines #44" to Data/Machines: the field '(BC)24' > 'OutputRules' > 'OutputItem' doesn't match an existing target
[Content Patcher] Can't apply data patch "Stardew Valley Balance Overhaul > EditData Data/Machines #45" to Data/Machines: the field '(BC)24' > 'OutputRules' > 'OutputItem' doesn't match an existing target
[Content Patcher] Can't apply data patch "Stardew Valley Balance Overhaul > EditData Data/Machines #39" to Data/Machines: the field '(BC)24' > 'OutputRules' > 'OutputItem' doesn't match an existing target
[Content Patcher] Can't apply data patch "Stardew Valley Balance Overhaul > EditData Data/Machines #44" to Data/Machines: the field '(BC)24' > 'OutputRules' > 'OutputItem' doesn't match an existing target
[Content Patcher] Can't apply data patch "Stardew Valley Balance Overhaul > EditData Data/Machines #45" to Data/Machines: the field '(BC)24' > 'OutputRules' > 'OutputItem' doesn't match an existing target

none of the errors mention specifically what type of egg

[brave fable]

ideally you should share your files on log.smapi.io and json.smapi.io

preferably the content file from your Mods/MyCoolMod folder

[light bramble]

Ok, trying to figure this out with SVE and making sure we have compat. The backwoods looks like this (first img) but eventually, in SVE, you get something that happens and then changes the backwoods to look like this (second img) I am trying to find the exact map within the SVE files but cannot find what they use to patch the backwoods to have the fences on the clif removed and widen the path.

[lucid iron]

sve doesn't patch backwoods it just gets yeeted

[faint ingot]

from the smapi log of someone that posted on my nexusmods page that his game is crashing:

[light bramble]

Still need to know the map name so we can do a proper patch and get SVE compat working so people don't get angy

[lucid iron]

Assets/Maps/Locations/Backwoods.tbin

[normal trout]

... okay? I have 192 mods. What do you mean with that?

[lucid iron]

the target is still just Maps/Backwoods

ctrl+f to see the various patches sve does to it

[light bramble]

I'm an idot

[lucid iron]

no ur a n3rd

[light bramble]

New pokemon unlocked Idot. failed evolution of seedot

[calm nebula]

Wait it's a load?

[lucid iron]

yea

i think sve loads over most vanilla locations mostly cus it tries to put grass all over the place

[reef kiln]

I have over 500 mod and none of them are AT or FS packs. So 100 is nothing.

[brave fable]

the issue probably being that it's impossible to know which mod is crashing the game if there's no error trace to sdvhead's mod out of 100 others

[calm nebula]

Skill issue

[lucid iron]

this looks right yea?

[calm nebula]

(I kid I kid)

[calm nebula]

Are you doing an omni convert to data for sve lol

[lucid iron]

no im done with this one

the other stuff look hard

or rather, need some kinda peace talk between every expansion that do untimed special orders lol

[calm nebula]

Lolllllll

No, but it's a small patch tbh

We asked if vanilla could do it

[light bramble]

Question, is there documentation on what the "Priority" thingy do in Content Patcher?

[lucid iron]

yes, but it works differently for Load and EditData

[lusty elm]

I've seen users in the 900 range, as the highest, but you'd be surprised how many run with 300-400.

[lucid iron]

it is on the github content patcher docs page

[reef kiln]

How did you put signs on the ponds. Is that a mod I don't know about or a vanilla thing I missed?

[lucid iron]

how come it wasn't vanilla'd do u remember

[lucid iron]

its vanilla since forever ago

[light bramble]

link cuz I cannot find 😭

[calm nebula]

Needed new translations

[tawny ore]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editdata.md#overview
https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-load.md#usage

[reef kiln]

I need to use fish ponds more. Cool I need to do that

[calm nebula]

Are these minified

[lucid iron]

yea

u see the best way to integration test is to keep all me mods installed

[calm nebula]

No, the best way to integration test is to talk other people into testing your mods

[dusk mulch]

why do i have to be so indecisive about mapping 😭

[latent mauve]

So I posted my JSON earlier when I was trying to work out why I couldn't get the recycling machine to accept shirts as inputs, but didn't get a response. Anyone have any ideas?

[lucid iron]

should i ping flash or go join the SVE seaver

[latent mauve]

I fixed the code error but now it just fails without an error in the log, because my code properly uses a list now

[lucid iron]

im not really sure how often github is checked

[latent mauve]

#making-mods-general message the json was here for my failed attempt

[rigid musk]

Is there a way to make a config option only appear if you have a specific mod

[calm nebula]

Hold an item over your head and type debug listtags

[calm nebula]

No

[latent mauve]

I did, and it had the category_shirt tag

But the recycling machine still wouldn't take the shirt

[rigid oriole]

Do recycling machines only accept objects somehow?

[latent mauve]

That's what I'm wondering

[rigid oriole]

The code for machines in general might check

[calm nebula]

That should not be the case

I definitely recall this

[latent mauve]

I suppose I can test with another category real quick just to make sure

[reef kiln]

You can check the code by adding the clothing tag to a carrot or something and see if the machine takes it. Then you will know if it just won't take clothes

Never mind you just said the same thing.

[calm nebula]

Deconstruct, you said?

You need to move your rule above the vanilla rule

Wait, no

Recycling machine, hmmm

[latent mauve]

yeah, it just doesn't work for category_clothing, it worked fine with category_bait on a test

[lucid iron]

What does the machine rules say

In like LA or similar

Also does it work if u use item id instead of tag?

[latent mauve]

Even if it does work with itemID, it won't necessarily help, because I need it to accept any shirt?

But I can try

[calm nebula]

Wait, category_clothing does that exist

Try category_shirt

[latent mauve]

the wiki said it does, and debug listtags said it did

sure

[lucid iron]

Well i was thinking that maybe some nonsense will result in Condition working

Even if tag no work

[latent mauve]

still nothing on category_shirt

[calm nebula]

Weird

[calm nebula]

I'm pretty sure we asked for the object check to be removed in 1.6 alpha

Try quality_none

[latent mauve]

still nothing

[calm nebula]

Hmm

Try furniture, for shits and giggles

[latent mauve]

category_furniture?

lemme just spawn a chair and check the tags to be sure if that's right

[calm nebula]

Chue can you check performobjectdropin for mw

The method signatuew

[latent mauve]

Furniture works

[calm nebula]

The fact that it is perform OBJECT Drop in worries me

[uncut viper]

Object.performObjectDropInAction?

[calm nebula]

Yup

What's the signature

[uncut viper]

public virtual bool performObjectDropInAction(Item dropInItem, bool probe, Farmer who, bool returnFalseIfItemConsumed = false)

if (!(dropInItem is Object dropIn))
{
  return false;
}

a shirt isnt an Object its an Objects.Clothing

different subclass of Item

[calm nebula]

God damn

See, I distinctly remember asking Pathos if machines could take wallpaper and him saying yes

[uncut viper]

Wallpaper is an Object

[calm nebula]

Lol yeah

[uncut viper]

it derives from Object

Clothing does not

[calm nebula]

After the great wallpaper incident of 2024

[jade wing]

Hi having some issues with this error message ([Content Patcher] Can't apply data patch "Mystic Baker > EditData Data/Objects #5 > entry #2" to Data/Objects: failed converting String value to the expected type 'StardewValley.GameData.Objects.ObjectData': Error converting value "Object/BakingSoda" to type 'StardewValley.GameData.Objects.ObjectData'. Path ''..
[Content Patcher] Can't apply data patch "Mystic Baker > EditData Data/Objects #5 > entry #3" to Data/Objects: failed converting Integer value to the expected type 'StardewValley.GameData.Objects.ObjectData': Error converting value 0 to type 'StardewValley.GameData.Objects.ObjectData'. Path ''..) not sure what is causing it any help would be great thanks here is the code https://smapi.io/json/none/0f50e1bef7f74d7988d158ee60a19f81

[latent mauve]

I can confirm wallpaper works

[calm nebula]

(Was it 2024?)

[uncut viper]

other things that i dont think will work: Tools, Boots, Hats, Rings, or SpecialItems

[gentle rose]

the great what now

[brave fable]

2022, actually

[latent mauve]

I'll try all of those just to check now, Button

[calm nebula]

Thank you for checking+

The bright side, button, is that I think we may be a single transpilwr from getting that to work

[lucid iron]

Texture is in wrong tier

[uncut viper]

we?

[lucid iron]

Move it under baking soda's {}

[calm nebula]

Royal we

[uncut viper]

you mean Selph

[lucid iron]

Yeah I wouldn't dare

[calm nebula]

You took half a JA tutorial and tried to put it on CP

[brave fable]

the question is, do you really want to allow clothing in any performobjectdropinaction

[tiny zealot]

when a retired modder says "we can make a transpiler", that's the spousal we

[uncut viper]

you could just check if its the recycler

[jade wing]

Oooh i see ill try it thanks for the quick reply :3

[gentle rose]

this is probably not the cause of the problem, but I’m pretty sure content patcher keys are case sensitive - so for example, it needs to be “Id” and not “ID” and “DisplayName” not “Displayname”

[uncut viper]

i dont know if thats the case tbh but also im pretty sure the actual problem is what atra pointed out

[gentle rose]

who broke wallpapers and how

[patent lance]

New quote added by atravita as #6311 (https://discordapp.com/channels/137344473976799233/156109690059751424/1333967788695621663)

[calm nebula]

The game broke wallpapers

[latent mauve]

Things that don't work as machine inputs:
❌ Boots
❌ Clothing
❌ Hats
❌ Rings
❌ Tools

[uncut viper]

checks out

[gentle rose]

yeah, the source of the issue is definitely what atra said haha, the messages just took ages to load 😭 and I could have sworn it was case sensitive but I’ll double check at some point

[uncut viper]

what about SpecialItem

(idk what an example of a SpecialItem is)

[latent mauve]

I can try a book?

[uncut viper]

those arent SpecialItems

[latent mauve]

ah

[uncut viper]

i think its like

[lucid iron]

Atra pointed out that you followed the wrong data format for content patcher objects

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[uncut viper]

idk theyre weird. the things meant to only ever be gotten once and for specific purpose

and possibly removed immediately

[lucid iron]

Check vanilla's Data/Objects for how it should look

[uncut viper]

like the magnifying glass is a SpecialItem

Skull Key, Club Card, Dark Talisman, Magick Ink, Magnifying Glass, and Special Charm

[calm nebula]

Special items are one off temp jtems

[uncut viper]

yeah

i wanna recycle my club card

im swearing off the slots

[lucid iron]

What does it give u

[latent mauve]

lemme see if I can figure out how to give myself just the object for those, since debug f isn't finding any of those

[uncut viper]

its probably not actually worth fussing about with it was mostly jokes

[latent mauve]

(I don't think we can give ourselves those anyway )

I'm happy to put random things in to check if the recycler will take it though, for actual checks xD

[jade wing]

It worked! Thank you both very muchhh!!

[uncut viper]

everything else should be fine, everything else should subclass Object

[latent mauve]

(furniture working opens up amusing options for recovering wood maybe)

I'm just glad to know that I wasn't somehow messing up the code still

[uncut viper]

also some classes override performObjectDropInAction and dont check for it being an Object

[latent mauve]

I know I used Selph's EMC for the output of a machine to be clothing, but not sure that's reversible at current to use it for an input instead.

[uncut viper]

Mannequins, for instance, are perfectly happy to accept clothing, if you can believe it

can you turn a mannequin into a machine?

[lucid iron]

Wouldn't it be kind of cursed to like

Grab infty furniture and run a wood chipper factory

[latent mauve]

I mean, this is gonna allow for infinity clothing to be cloth, sooooo

Not that far of a stretch.

[lucid iron]

You cant grab clothes for free from a catalog can u

[latent mauve]

Considering the other machine in this mod generates 1 clothing or cloth per day.

(Laundry machine)

[lucid iron]

Like I'm not that against it bc machines have processing time

But u r make wood out of nothing

[latent mauve]

Also as a fun observation, not sure how much of it is just luck, but man my machines seem weighted for prismatic pants.

There's so few pants, so I get that it has good odds to be prismatic when it rolls pants at all, but it rolls pants a LOT

(it's supposed to be a 1/3 chance of shirt, pants, or cloth.)

[rigid musk]

@rancid temple just wanted to say I added optional compatibility with your perfection mod thing - Lookup Anything still indicates that you need to craft/cook the things though

[ivory plume]

(The first shop in Central Station is starting to take shape!)

[tiny zealot]

hats!

[latent mauve]

(Pathos, I was so afraid you were about to jump in on the clothing / ObjectDropIn discussion, and I was gonna feel very guilty)

[calm nebula]

Basically thr game allows wallpapers to be accepted as objects of the same id

[ivory plume]

(I'm temporarily an actual mod author, game bugs are invisible to me. 😌)

[calm nebula]

I wouldn't say it is a bug

[latent mauve]

Nah, just me running into something I can't do again.

This happens pretty often, tbh.

[calm nebula]

Just .... something someone wanted but can't have until we bully Selph into it

[tiny zealot]

wait, is green wallpaper sword back?

[calm nebula]

For a brief period in 2023

I could craft the seasonal seeds from wallpaper

Use wallpaper to buy buildings

Gave Gus a wallpaper instead of a coconut for that one quest

[latent mauve]

It's all good, I'll just comment out that code in the hopes that one day it'll be possible. Not like I'm in a hurry to release this mod with all the ideas. 😄

[ivory plume]

(Then there was this 1.6 alpha bug.)