making-mods-general

[lusty elm]

its all really a "are you happy with it?" or "Does it at least look decent/okay?"

cuz if there is one thing i've learned with art, I'm never truly "Happy" with the final result

[winter dust]

I edited out the bushes on the Backwoods map for a while with my mod, and now that I'm not the bushes don't regrow/spawn there anymore. Wonder what I can do about that?

[tender bloom]

!rtf

[ocean sail]

Reset Terrain Features (https://smapi.io/mods/#Reset_Terrain_Features) is a mod that lets you reset, clear, or generate everything that spawns on a map using an in-game menu. That's especially useful when changing maps mid-save, as the debris will otherwise use the old layout (causing things like trees in the water or bushes blocking exits).

To use this command, type !rtf.

[lusty elm]

yeah you'll have to reset it

[winter dust]

Welp, that'll be up to players to do then.

I'll just leave an excerpt in my change log about it.

[lusty elm]

cuz how it works is the map's pathing layer is only referenced on initial save generation, then its effectively stored in the save data

resetting it is saying hey, set the save data path's saved points to the map's again.

[winter dust]

The hardest thing to support afaik are recolour mods.

If I don't have the reshade hues and values they used, I'd have to spend hours colouring each pixel by hand from reference textures.

[lusty elm]

all the recolor mods want you to do is just only use base game sprites right?

[winter dust]

Yeah, but people want extra stuff.

And that's what Tarniyar did, so I must continue it.

[lusty elm]

its why i would always get so excited when we got new base game tiles.

[winter dust]

I wonder if any of the recolour mods I support are still around lol.

I think retro is, that was relatively new when I did that one.

[lusty elm]

I recognize all of those but retro

but thats also because i once upon a time made a "Dirt to Grass" that turned dirt into gasp grass on selectable maps, via patching the dirt tiles conditionally, and i had to make a LOT OF VARIANTS because i think more people play with recolors than without.

[median dune]

Does smapi automatically save logs somewhere? My mod made me crash lol

[winter dust]

acerbicon isn't active anymore I think, neither is strangelyliteral, and I think Eemie's recolour is delisted.

[lusty elm]

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[lusty elm]

that link tells you where to find them

[winter dust]

I think Earthy, Retro and Pastoral are the only active ones right now.

Unless there's been new ones I'm not aware of.

[lusty elm]

probably? the categories on nexus arent always ideal for people to search as people arent always sure what their mod falls under.

[median dune]

Thanks

[winter dust]

I guess Elle's Dirt/Cliff recolour is new.

Rose Coloured Glasses is from 2019, oof.

[lusty elm]

I was gonna say, those have been around for a bit

[winter dust]

ricehit looks new

[lusty elm]

Never heard of it, so probably

[winter dust]

Uploaded in July of 2023

[thin hamlet]

Is there any way to make the netflix quality of a mod’s thumbnail/banner explode

Nexus*

Lmaooo

To NOT make

[lusty elm]

[thin hamlet]

I can SMELL the pixels

🤦‍♀️

[dusk mulch]

@blissful panther You said meep may come out this week, is that still the case?
-# sorry for the ping

[thin hamlet]

Is there any way to increase the quality of a mod’s banner picture

Jeebus

[lusty elm]

a higher quality picture?

[naive wyvern]

sometimes nexus just eats images

[thin hamlet]

Theyre screenshots

[lusty elm]

i think nexus has inbuild limitations too, which aren't ideal

[thin hamlet]

Yeesh

[lusty elm]

define screenshots

[thin hamlet]

Noted

Game screenshots?

[lusty elm]

ingame? did you increase the % to 100 from its default of 25%?

cuz you can take a screenshot of the entire map that way, or if its a still of the screen you can use the + and - to try to zoom in to get a better clipping of the screen

[thin hamlet]

Oh derp i didnt try that

[lucid iron]

There is an unofficial starblue

[blissful panther]

I've got near enough all of tomorrow to work on it, so I'll be getting started then! I know that doesn't sound like much time, but it really is a simple enough addition.

[lusty elm]

I forgot how long adding debris takes on these gargantuan maps

[tribal ore]

It almost works!! I can load in a map patch when a quest begins (and probably when an event is seen). Holy moly I'm so excited to get things this far 😄

[dusk mulch]

Cool, I will be on the lookout!

[winter dust]

What's meep if you don't mind me asking?

[dusk mulch]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/14493

[tawny ore]

https://tenor.com/view/jaja-hahaha-run-running-running-away-gif-14097702707561656636

Meep is the sound the Road Runner makes

[dusk mulch]

meep meep

[lusty elm]

^ thats what i was thinking of

[winter dust]

That's exactly what I thought it was going to be, lmao.

[tribal ore]

Does anyone know if there's a way to force CP to reload assets during the day (between saves)?

[dusk mulch]

patch reload {{Mod.ID}}

[tawny ore]

For reference, and other commands you might find helpful: https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/troubleshooting.md#reload

[tribal ore]

is that something I put into an event script?

[winter dust]

But if you want it to be done automatically, you can have a when check for 610 at the start of the day to load assets

[dusk mulch]

you put that into the smapi console

[lucid iron]

Reloading should be done sparingly

[tribal ore]

I need to do a patch reload when a quest starts

[winter dust]

Try to avoid reloading, it can be memory intensive.

[tribal ore]

When a particular one starts

[lucid iron]

When u invalidate a map, every patch must reapply in order

Sometimes events make their own custom temp locations for this purpose, rather than reloading

[tribal ore]

I need the location to persist between events for a day

The player needs to have control to walk around and do stuff, triggering other events

So I just need to force CP to reload the map when the quest is triggered

[lucid iron]

Oh kind of like that one haley event huh

[winter dust]

God, I hate Haley.

[tribal ore]

Yes! But the haley event is hardcoded and special

[lucid iron]

I'm not sure if this is a thing u can do without C# yeah

[tribal ore]

A special snowflake, just like her xD

[winter dust]

Yeah, Haley is a pain the behind for a few reasons, other than being a snarky character no one likes.

[lusty elm]

She mellows out over her heart events.

[lucid iron]

Anyways i would probably do a locationchanged update rate

Trigger the quest elsewhere and set mailflag

Then when u enter forest it'll apply patch

[tribal ore]

Mailflag isn't bad. Maybe I can send a null nothing

[lusty elm]

you're also going to have to figure out how to un-apply the patch

with your conditions

[lucid iron]

Oh mailflag is like, just HasFlag

[tribal ore]

That's easy. When the quest is no longer active or the end event has been seen

[lucid iron]

Game uses it like a boolean all the time

[tribal ore]

Ah I see

[lucid iron]

You would need to unset the mailflag later yes

[lusty elm]

yeah its not too crazy, but easy to forget, at least for someone like me, lol.

I got it to WORK!, wait, now i need it to go back....

[tribal ore]

LOL 😛

Story of my entire time making this godforsaken mod...

[lusty elm]

yeah, there is a reason i avoid events like the plague, did it once for like a 10 second sequence and it wasn't worth the work

[tribal ore]

I'm nearly done. Just working on the 12 heart event at the moment

I'm so incredibly happy with some of the events I've made. Can't wait to share it

[uncut viper]

haley is my favourite character

[teal bridge]

"no one likes" lol. Personal preference is fine but that's about as far as you can get from the world of fact.

[rotund elm]

is it to weird if my Cookie Octopus produces cookies in the fish pond... or should I make them soggy cookies, or should I just hit myself with a brick XD

[uncut viper]

soggy cookies but sometimes they drop a non-soggy version whose description is just "...How?"

[rotund elm]

Genius

[lusty elm]

My brain went to Seaweed Cookies

[uncut viper]

seaweed cookies sounds good tho

[rotund elm]

I could also do that as a rare drop for the fish pond with soggy cookies being the main one XD

[lucid iron]

When u think ur fish pond produce is perhaps dumb remember that lava eel makes spicy eel

[rotund elm]

you are so right XD

[uncut viper]

most fish pond produce makes absolute fuckall sense

[shut edge]

are nodes or weeds drops something we can do with just content patcher?

[lucid iron]

*mr ape is so right

[uncut viper]

if anything, spicy eel makes some of the most sense

[uncut viper]

you'd wanna look at Item Extensions i believe

[shut edge]

yeah, dang

i'll consider it, trying to keep my reqs down

[rotund elm]

Should I make the description on the soggy cookie "Mayor Lewis secretly loves these!" or something similar and add it to his loved gifts, or if I can add custom dialogue when he is given one, make him act disgusted but still takes the soggy cookie and warns you to tell nobody or else

I wonder how hard that would be to do

[winter dust]

It was a joke lol.

Because she has hard coded events, so "no one likes her".

[uncut viper]

she has like, 1

[uncut viper]

while i have no opinion on whether or not you should, it would be very easy to do

[lucid iron]

I think Caroline is worse by 10x if we going by that metric

[rotund elm]

LOL, that may be a tad overboard haha but I may try and give him a funny reaction if he is gifted one. Thanks for the intel

[uncut viper]

doesnt caroline only have one weird event too and cant that just be recreated with temporary CG maps anyway

[winter dust]

Doesn't every NPC have at least one stupid event.

[lucid iron]

Yeah it's about the fact that she uses weird specific things

[sly lantern]

I might've spoken too soon actually

[uncut viper]

im less familiar with carolines event or event coding so ill defer to you here

[shut edge]

i have stupid events irl all the time

[winter dust]

Except Leah, Leah is perfect.

[sly lantern]

I'm still having an issue when trying to remove 2 pngs

But at least all the others worked

Does anyone have any suggestions?

[uncut viper]

were the tilesheets in the same folder as your .tmx file when you added them to the map?

[sly lantern]

I removed the previous tsx files and recreated them as map embeds. When I recreated them I used the pngs in their respective mod folders for all of them

Honestly I have no idea how I managed to fix some but not all of them

[uncut viper]

what do you mean their respective mod folders?

all of your tilesheets need to be in the same folder as your .tmx when you load them in

[sly lantern]

One of the tilesheets I got working is literally on the same folder as one that doesn't work

[sly lantern]

Like, I'm using a background from DaisyNiko's tilesheet

[rigid musk]

No it was definitely regular rain- I'm checking on the 3rd of spring which is the soonest rain day u_u

[uncut viper]

you need to put daisynikos tilesheet .png in the folder of your .tmx

[rigid musk]

I will attempt the home region thing

[sly lantern]

So I unpacked it on the mods folder and took the pnd in there

[uncut viper]

all tilesheets must be in the same folder as your .tmx when using them. all of them. modded or otherwise

[sly lantern]

It's on the same folder right now

But I don't think I can publish the mod with the png

So I'm trying to have it working when the png isn't there

[uncut viper]

if you have them in your folder with your .tmx when editing, then you delete them before publishing. but they must be in the same folder when you actually save the .tmx

[sly lantern]

To create the tilesheet I used the one on the daisyniko folder, but I also have the png on my assets folder

[uncut viper]

(i wasnt here for the context earlier, so apologies if im repeating stuff someone else has already said)

[sly lantern]

But when I remove the png and try to run the game my greenhouse map doesn't load

[uncut viper]

would you mind sending the tmx in here?

[sly lantern]

Sure

Here it is

The ones that aren't working when I remove the png from the folder are "z_vanilla_day" and "z_indoor_daisyextras"

All the others I managed to fix

[uncut viper]

are those both from daisyniko?

(idk what vanilla day is)

[sly lantern]

Yep

But I'm also using a different tilesheet from daisyniko that's working just fine

[sly lantern]

It's the panorama background

[uncut viper]

im just goin to download the tilesheets myself and just needed to know where to find em

[sly lantern]

Omg thank you so much!!

[uncut viper]

can you send an error log too using the uploader?

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[sly lantern]

Sure just a sec

Here's the log: https://smapi.io/log/5730b45749fd486d86b61b42355803f3

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 9 C# mods and 4 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[uncut viper]

i see. daisyniko's content.json isnt actually Loading the indoor_daisyextras tilesheet ever

yeah i dont see anywhere daisyniko's mod uses assets/Vanilla/indoor_daisyextras.png, so. i dont think there is actually a way to use that without including that tilesheet specifically with your mod

which is likely not intentional

[rigid musk]

hm... this did not work

[sly lantern]

So there's not really a way to fix it?

[rigid musk]

As far as im aware my rain schedules SHOULD be able to work? im not sure why they wouldnt

[uncut viper]

i found this in the comments of daisyniko's mod, but its the oinly thing i can find mentioning that tilesheet, so, id probably bring it up again if i were you?

[rigid musk]

https://smapi.io/log/cbe99f281b18400381f2b4899232d231
here's the patch summary (both for just the schedule and general)

https://smapi.io/json/none/511441fed1f8430aab91875b896c3dee
as well as the JSON for the schedule itself..

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 18 C# mods and 1 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[brittle ledge]

[chants] fish crimes, fish crimes, fish crimes

[brave fable]

take my wife's name out of your goddam mouth

[lusty elm]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/17875/ New Map :p

[royal stump]

If your character's home is in the desert (or otherwise using the desert location context), they'll never use rain schedules because it can't rain there
#making-mods-general message

[lusty elm]

:/ I wanted it to show the other image

[sly lantern]

Thanks a lot either way! I think I'll just find an alternative then

[rotund elm]

Is there a way the vanilla game scales roe value/production time and drop percent? Or should I just add my own as I see fit

[brave fable]

oh yeah the nexus discord previews are cached, that's not changing now lol

[lucid iron]

if u change the star it might uncache

[brave fable]

best make a new mod page and try again ☀️

[lucid iron]

but i kinda like this view it's eye catching

reminds me of those weather map

[winter dust]

Ooh, you made it?

[lusty elm]

ye, finally finished it

[lament shell]

cant you add a slash at the end to change that?

[rigid musk]

I know, I switched it to "Other" as suggested

[royal stump]

That wasn't what I suggested; HomeRegion doesn't affect schedules at all

[rigid musk]

The whole reason I was doing the "when" condition of checking rain being in the valley was to try and circumvent that but it wasn't - oh

[lusty elm]

yup that worked.

[uncut viper]

it also seems more like where the character is at the e nd of the day is what determines whether they can check rain or not

[rigid musk]

mmm I dont know how to change that then :|

[uncut viper]

bc it uses their current location and not their home, right

[rigid musk]

I mean he literally lives in the Casino

Qi why must you cause me so much headache

I guess I could set the map as having a location in the town even though it is warped to from the Casino?

[royal stump]

I assumed NPCs return to their home location overnight, but I'm not 100% familiar with how it's handled; it uses their current location in literal C# terms, though

[rigid musk]

He ends his day there every time

The map being his room for clarification

[royal stump]

but yeah, giving the character a home map or warp room or w/e and having it use the default context should give them valley-based scheduling

and it was mentioned elsewhere iirc, but CP tokens update their values after the overnight scheduling, so switching schedules based on "when" conditions probably won't work right

[rigid musk]

[uncut viper]

you'd have to check the weather for tomorrow i suppose if you wanted to do When conditions

[lusty elm]

I'm just glad I managed to Finish it before i need to head to work in checks Clock the next 10 minutes.

[rigid musk]

I have D&D in less than two hours and I have half of my session to still prepare... and yet and yet

[lusty elm]

I forgot how long adding debris takes, took me 2 hours

[rigid musk]

Qi must do rain things when its supposed to rain, I HAVE to fix it >:[

[drowsy pewter]

did your thing get solved? i dont have the context for this

[lusty elm]

then again, the map is like 6x the size of the standard farm, so its only to be expected really

[rigid musk]

maybe ill make a farm map next for stardew who knows

[uncut viper]

(also i do not wish to follow the trail of schedule code anymore but i think esca is right i think they do warp home first)

[lusty elm]

I figured having designated "Chunks" via island would help people approach the larger maps, as they can do it island by island

[rigid musk]

after the ... [checks notes] 10 other mods and projets i have to do

[brave fable]

oh my god pufferchunks even looks like the island farm

[lusty elm]

[rigid musk]

he always ends his day in his bed anyways so if it is location based it will be fine, i set his home to have a default locationcontext

[brave fable]

official mascot official mascot

[rigid musk]

also can i say i want the bouncer blast sticker to have a bonch blast version because that would be so funny

[lucid iron]

wow

[brave fable]

he has a beach!

[rigid musk]

beach puffer

oh my god it worked 🥹

[uncut viper]

looks like an animal crossing map

[rigid musk]

I was worried for a second because i wasnt sure which it was going to do... if he moved at 6:20? it worked, if he moved at 6:30? it wouldnt have - and he didnt move at either which means it was his other rain schedule (8) which worked and im... so happy

Now I go write Fey contracts >:}

Also thank you to everyone for helping with all of this, there are so many unforeseen random issues that I've run into but you guys are always helpful and I am greatly appreciative of that

[winter dust]

My mod is available for download from seven different websites, do you think I should do more?

[winter dust]

Good luck with your project.

[tribal ore]

What would the syntax for this be?

[royal stump]

I don't think CP has a built-in token for tomorrow's weather, though a mod could add one. The game mostly keeps track of that, though I forget whether it accounts for festivals and such without extra work

[uncut viper]

there is no vanilla syntax for it

[tribal ore]

Darn

[uncut viper]

BETAS has a GSQ for it, and a certain someone has a GSQ token

[brittle pasture]

there's the percentage chance in the item query, which is combined with the chance for the pond to produce in the first place (23% for 1 fish to 95% for 10)

[tribal ore]

Alright. Would make some things convenient but I can work around it for now. Thanks!

[uncut viper]

what do yuo need it for? the original suggestion was just as a kinda hacky workaround for Mr Qi

[brittle pasture]

if you're talking about general balancing the best way is probably comparing again vanilla fish

[uncut viper]

(which is no longer necessary)

[tribal ore]

Wanted to see if I could trigger a map patch based on tomorrow's weather, rather than a quest starting

[uncut viper]

ahh

[tribal ore]

Since if it triggers on quest acceptance, the map patch doesn't apply until the player sleeps again

[rotund elm]

I'll probably do that and use the pricing to production/roe value to scale my fish

[uncut viper]

you want the map to look different based on tomorrows weather, but turn back to how it was once the weather starts?

[tribal ore]

I want the map to look different when the player wakes up to rain, then turn back at the end of the day

While an event is in progress

[uncut viper]

that would just be checking the current weather then, no?

[tribal ore]

No, because CP doesn't seem to load the map in once the player has already woken up

I could be wrong

But I also don't know how to trigger a reload manually

Without console commands that is

[uncut viper]

are you changing the map the player wakes up in, or a different map theyd travel to?

[tribal ore]

Different map

Mountain

[uncut viper]

CP patches by default are re-evaluated on daystart, but you can change that to onlocationchange or ontimechange

(BETAS incidentally also has a trigger action action to force a patch update, but it shouldnt be necessary here)

[tribal ore]

Hmmmmm. I don't want to make the whole game slower for this one event that happens one time. If I could change it back to daystart on the next day, that would be cool

[uncut viper]

if your When condition checks for when the event is in progress and it just changes the map once, the performance difference will be absolutely not noticeable

[brave fable]

ask users to uninstall the mod after seeing the event 🙏

[tribal ore]

LOL

[tribal ore]

Is there an "InProgress" when condition? I found "HasSeenEvent"

But I doubt that's the same

[uncut viper]

send a mail flag on start and remove it on finish

[tribal ore]

Someone else mentioned the mail flag earlier. Sounds like a good idea but do you have an example I can look at?

I haven't seen it before

waves at tiakall

[brittle ledge]

If it helps, my Realistic Writer Elliott mod uses mailflags set in an event to set his book genre (via a dynamic token)

[tribal ore]

That does help, thanks! I'll go hunt it down on Nexus

[brittle ledge]

I haven't done a map patch that's triggered on/off by mailflags though.

[tribal ore]

That's ok! I got the map patch working earlier off of a quest, and I'm so happy

[uncut viper]

as long as you can send a mail flag you use the mail token for CP in the when condition

[tribal ore]

Ok, that sounds really promising. Thank you guys both for all the help. I've been stuck on this for a little bit

But I'm 90% of the way to a solution now 😄

[lucid iron]

anyone got quick example of transpiler DeclareLocal

i deleted the only time i used it in the past

[uncut viper]

https://github.com/Spiderbuttons/BETAS/blob/main/BETAS/Triggers/RelationshipChanged.cs#L125

[lucid iron]

thank u transpilers georg

[uncut viper]

transpilers > any other patch

if you want a smaller/maybe more readable example (though idk maybe its not) i have this old one too
https://github.com/Spiderbuttons/ButtonsExtraBooks/blob/438d7e1e87127e5dc6aad5f531a44a79c68349d9/Patches/ArtisanGrangeDisplay.cs

my pre-codematcher days...

[tribal ore]

@brittle ledge If you're still there, just want to say that I looked at Realistic Writer Elliott and am just 👀

Gonna be playing with that bad boy ASAP

[lucid iron]

u see i was doing 3 dict.TryGetValue

i think i should reduce it to just once

[uncut viper]

does it make that much a difference

[lucid iron]

no but i'll feel better about it

since im gonna use this 1 transpiler 4 times

[uncut viper]

why dont you write a for-loop iterating over the dictionary each of the 3 times using IL

[lucid iron]

hm is there Type? in IL

do i just put null in and check later

[uncut viper]

i assume thatd be Nullable<Type> in the il

so maybe you'd be calling the value getter or w/e on that. that said i have no idea

i would probably open up one of my own mods in ilspy to see what it looked like where i used a nullable

[lucid iron]

maybe loc is wrong thing to use and what i actually want is just a branch

[calm nebula]

There is not for reference types

There is for value types

You can also do a cast

[lucid iron]

b.Draw(texture2D, new Vector2(x, y) + drawLayer.DrawPosition * 4f, sourceRect2, Color.White, 0f, new Vector2(0f, 0f), 4f, SpriteEffects.None, num2);

i am patch 0f, new Vector2(0f, 0f)

but nothing stops me from just jumping over the 3x ldc.r4 0.0

[uncut viper]

where does the nullable come in there

[lucid iron]

i was going to get info about rotations from a dict that i keep for this

[uncut viper]

why not replace that Draw call entirely with a call to your own function, check everything in normal C#, then call draw yourself

[lucid iron]

why is transpilers georg telling me to use less transpiler

[uncut viper]

bc this way you can use the special MethodReplacer transpiler

[lucid iron]

i dont think i can

theres a gazillion other spritebatch.Draw in here

[uncut viper]

you could also just insert individual calls like after the 0f is put on the stack, consume it, do whatever you need, and put a number back

same with the vector2

[lucid iron]

yea that is what i do rn

[uncut viper]

that seems like the best way to me than worrying about declaring your own locals and such

and trying to work with nullable types in il

[lucid iron]

i will step into your parlour for this

[upper rune]

so i'm doing some final tests on my crop mod and it seems like pierre is doubling all of my listed prices. Why might that be happening? Should I just slash the price in half in the code in order to get my intended price?

[uncut viper]

pierre just does that

you can set individual shop entries to ignore it

all shops by default charge 2x the object price, and pierre charges another 2x on top of that

you can look at the seed shop entries in SeedShop in Data/Shops to see how they ignore it, i forget what the field is called but i think its like IgnorePriceModifiers or something

[upper rune]

huh ok

[uncut viper]

if you were setting the Price field in your shop entries rather than letting the pric eof the objects themselves determine it, you can achieve the same by just halving it

that would mean though if anyone mods pierre to not charge 2x, your stuff will still be halved

[reef kiln]

Really, I have never added an item to Pierre's. Only other shops. That is good info to know.

[uncut viper]

yeah its in his overall shop price modifiers list

[drowsy pewter]

IgnoreShopPriceModifiers

https://github.com/MizuJakkaru/Cornucopia/blob/main/[CP] Cornucopia More Crops/data/shop_pierre.json

[latent mauve]

Well, I have to check how Sam and Shane's work outfits are handled now, because Shane swapped skins instantly when walking in, and Sam didn't swap until he started sweeping. xD

watch it be something dumb like me forgetting to update a new sprite sheet

[reef kiln]

I did find one time that items I add to the shipping bin where getting ther price reduced because I play at 75% profit margin. Which made the final product cost less the the total of the parts. So processing my item actually cost me 50 gold. I am still trying to figure out what to do about it. But that because it is a lot of low cost items (1 gold items) that process into one 200 gold item. But profit margins don't effect the 1 gold item, but they do the 200 gold item.

Still testing different option to find one I like.

[brittle pasture]

make them cost at least 4 gold?

[reef kiln]

That would the the simplest solution

[acoustic summit]

This is amazing!!!

[ruby brook]

Hi, new here, just got into writing a script to add more music via content patcher. I was wondering if there's a complete list somewhere of all the conditions and location data of the vanilla game, in particular the mines and skull caverns. I was thinking if I want to add music to the mines/caverns that it'd be easier to just replace the original ID with a copy of the vanilla music (to keep the original music ofc) and my custom music, because I don't know the exact conditions the vanilla music plays (it plays on particular floors etc.), so I don't need to figure that out.

I know of the Game state queries page on the wiki, that helps a lot

[uncut viper]

unfortunately, the particular locations you've chosen have particularly hardcoded and difficult to work with music selection code

its kind of an all or nothing replacement for mine music a lot of the time

[ruby brook]

I see, I'll try to just replace the original ID to add more music that way

[uncut viper]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Audio
this page has a list of audio IDs. for location data you can unpack your files to see all the locations, though most of the mine floors get auto-generated

and dont have actual data to edit

!unpack if you havent done so already

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[uncut viper]

most other locations in the game you can change the music in easily enough though

[ruby brook]

alright, thanks!

[uncut viper]

the music used ni the mines may also be used elsewhere outside the mines too, though. i dont know if they do or not, but they might, which is something to keep in mind when replacing the originals

[ruby brook]

well, if the soundtrack page doesn't list all instances, I guess I'll find out

[uncut viper]

it lists all the audio ids. there is no big list of everywhere specific audio is used

[teal bridge]

There is kind of a list.

(It's not totally exhaustive but it is still more helpful than the wiki page)

[ruby brook]

that helps, thanks

[verbal junco]

For a little while now, I've been trying my hand on/off at working at creating a custom volcano farm map, and there are some features I'm having trouble figuring out how to implement.
The two dominant features I'm unsure how to implement are functional lava (as seen in the ||Volcano||) and fertile soil (presumably some kind of custom tile property I'd have to mod in w/ C#)
Would anybody be able to point me in the right direction to implement either of these features?

[lucid iron]

Lava: C# nonsense, doomed
Fertile Soil: unsure what this means

[ornate trellis]

diggable?

[tiny zealot]

i'm finally going to use codematcher to write a transpiler. wish me luck

[verbal junco]

Like, by default has a fertilizer type effect applied to it. Dunno if stacking with actual fertilizer is a possibility

[uncut viper]

hell yeag

godspeed soldier

[lucid iron]

I think there may be frameworks that just accelerate crop growth

As a trigger

[uncut viper]

Cloudy Skies (iirc) has a trigger action for it but i dont remember if it can do one phase at a time or just instant grow

[lucid iron]

As for lava, i made fake lava once (it's retexured hoedirt)

[verbal junco]

Sounds "fun" to program. I had seen some people poking around with the scripts used in the volcano itself, but I'm assuming there's some reason why they weren't able to rip it and apply it to another map.

[lucid iron]

i think its just kind of niche

[uncut viper]

most of the trouble is watering it

[lucid iron]

imagine a farm where u need to water lava every day to get around

[uncut viper]

and sync it between players

[verbal junco]

That sounds about right.

[uncut viper]

but yeah, its not insurmountable, just not very sought after

[lucid iron]

personally rather than the impl done in volcano with the tile stuff i feel like a terrainfeature may end up being easier?

[verbal junco]

I was hoping to try making buildable bridges akin to the beach to make accessing some areas easier as the player progresses.

[uncut viper]

oh bridges are even more fucked

[lucid iron]

[uncut viper]

maybe if you mean flat on the ground ones

but like the bridge on the volcano island? good luck

[gaunt orbit]

You could do that with Unlockable Bundles I think

[verbal junco]

I think I heard something like that at some point. I'd assume because they're tracked based on unique variables in the save data?

[lucid iron]

my rec for time being is to not worry about the watering lava part

[uncut viper]

you can track map patches easily with mail flags

[lucid iron]

just make them strictly impassable

[uncut viper]

its when you want to walk under them that it gets fucked up

[lucid iron]

and for bridge u can use map edits as others have said

[verbal junco]

Overlapping actual ground path? No thanks, I've already had enough trouble with the tiles involved with that bridge LOL

[gaunt orbit]

One of my scrapped projects was a mod to add bridge buildings that you could build across water. Abandoned it because I discovered that patching the building placement logic is basically impossible without some really complicated and invasive transpilers

[uncut viper]

yeah that sounds about as fucky as id expect

[verbal junco]

Messing with core game functionality sounds like a nightmare.

[lucid iron]

sometimes its ok

[uncut viper]

messing with core game functionality is what a lot of C# mods do

[lucid iron]

[gaunt orbit]

The rest of it was not too complicated, but placement specifically is one of those things that's buried real deep in an old god method

CarpenterMenu my beloathed

[lucid iron]

i suppose it'd be easier if its like 2 buildings right

but then thats just mini obelisk

[tiny zealot]

i am loving the phrase "old god method". really captures what it's like to dig around in there

[uncut viper]

why not place two endpoints on either side of the water, then every day check the left (for example) side and every tile to the right until you find the right side piece. then alter all the tiles in between

[calm nebula]

Damn

[gaunt orbit]

The main trick is ensuring that it can only be placed on shoreline

[calm nebula]

And this piffle wanted to place fish ponds on watwr

[uncut viper]

would you need to?

[calm nebula]

Anyways

This piffle is also retired

And just got off work 😦

You know what

[uncut viper]

(semi related, can you make a building whose footprint is disconnected?)

[calm nebula]

I think supermarket poke is in my future

[uncut viper]

(maybe i mean disjoint idk)

[calm nebula]

(I mean. A collision map for placement seems not unreasonable)

(No, atra, you want supermarket poke)

(Eyes on the prize.)

[gaunt orbit]

If you want to a) mane it is placed next to water and b) allow it to be placed on the (nonbuildable) shore tiles

[calm nebula]

Supermarket. Poke

The other complexity is I think I want to rotate a bridge

[uncut viper]

if they were buildings id just say it was on the builder to make sure it was on the shoreline if they didnt want the bridge to go over land

[reef kiln]

Question, I just had an idea but I am thinking i may be beyond me as it will need c# knowledge to do. Could I make an AT pack that mods character sprites. Is that possible without massive programing skills. So for example I want click on Pam with the scissors from AT and I could pick from a bunch of skins for her.

[lucid iron]

that is something u need AT to support

i dont think it does

[calm nebula]

AT does not support that

The general idea is not insanely hard to implement

[lucid iron]

but it also just got more cursed to support with 1.6

[calm nebula]

I vote the UI master to do it

[lucid iron]

with appearances

nou

[calm nebula]

You're the UI master

[lucid iron]

i dont even have AT installed

[calm nebula]

Neither do I

[uncut viper]

chu is the UI master?

[calm nebula]

I have zero mods installed

[reef kiln]

That's to bad, it does the animals. Though it does make ducks walk on water. It can't do that 🤣

[gaunt orbit]

The AT way is usually too just prefix draw() though which would be unaffected

[calm nebula]

Chue at least knows how to work with stardewui

[lucid iron]

yea but do u want ppl to like

[uncut viper]

why isnt focus the ui master then

[calm nebula]

This piffle is tired, retired, and unwilling to learn

[lucid iron]

scissor ppl in festivals

[latent mauve]

Update: It was in fact me missing one of the new sprite sheets

[calm nebula]

Insert bad joke

Oh my god I'm tired

[latent mauve]

I really should re-unpack my files...

[uncut viper]

go to sleep

[lucid iron]

yea atra i am but a student

[reef kiln]

I just thought of it and really wanted to make a pack. But oh well

[calm nebula]

Yes but focus is more resistant to random ideas of mods

Hi ichor!

[tiny zealot]

i will also not make AT support NPCs. i can only be coerced to make a mod if you pay me in shitposts

[uncut viper]

what kind of shitposts?

[tiny zealot]

you have to say something that churns my brain in a specific way and makes me incapable of not making the thing

[uncut viper]

oh. im not very liquid in that currency right now

what if i made a J Club compatibility add-on for my NPC

[tiny zealot]

like katrie said a long time ago (not even really shitposting, but still) "it would be cool if someone replaced the secret woods log with a snorlax" and i simply had to do it

or whichever post exactly it was (claire or airyn, i think) about throwing chickens

[lucid iron]

who gave us fish dimension?

[tiny zealot]

(i did)

[stray sluice]

C# question - is there any way for me to get a list of Content Packs registered to a different mod than my own in the same way that this.Helper.ContentPacks.GetOwned() will give me a list of mods registered to mine? I'm specifically trying to get a list of all ContentPatcher packs in a way that will let me read their content and data.

[calm nebula]

Yes, but why

[uncut viper]

SMAPI wont help you do it, but you can do it

[calm nebula]

Look at Event Repeater for how to do it

[tiny zealot]

this would be cool, but what would it entail

[uncut viper]

what if i wanted my NPC to have a specific J club name rather than just replacing the first letter

[tender bloom]

I feel like ichor is more hardcore about it but I operate on a similar basis

I’ll make mods only if they make my brain excited and they’re easy

This is how Glue Your Furniture Down was born

[uncut viper]

actually does J Club already have like, a custom asset for name overrides so i can specify exactly how to Jayify or Bonchify my name

[tender bloom]

And Custom Rarecrows

[lucid iron]

are u gonna provide all 3 combos

[calm nebula]

The joke is the easiest way to get me to make a mod is to piss me off

[tender bloom]

I guess like, ichor’s trigger is shitposts and mine is “yeah, why doesn’t the game do that??”

[lucid iron]

custom J custom Bonch custom Jonch

[calm nebula]

Show me some terrible code and I'll fight it

[tender bloom]

And atra’s is anger 😛

[tiny zealot]

there's one for boncher mode but not for the J mode. i could be convinced to add it

[calm nebula]

No wonder I have mental health issues

[uncut viper]

my trigger is usually "i didnt plan on using this but it fuckin annoys me that i cant, so i will make it possible"

[uncut viper]

i will either convince you when i eventually get to my NPC or maybe ill just patch J club myself /j

[lucid iron]

i dont think i have a trigger for worms

since the initial worm i just have a bucket of em waiting to be done

[tender bloom]

I’ve ended up making a bunch of mods that I don’t actually use myself but I feel like they ought to exist, by rights

Also some I do use myself!

[gaunt orbit]

As others have said, this is possible (with reflection) but there may be an easier / better way of doing things depending on your goal.

[stray sluice]

I have dreams of allowing configuration of items based on mods available. For example, if you had two resprites of the same object, the configuration interface would allow you to choose between the vanilla sprite and either resprite loaded by a CP mod. So I'm pretty sure I need to be able to look at content.json and assets for the mod to see what's available for configuration.

[uncut viper]

you would need to completely reimplement content patcher's tokens and conditions system in order to accurately do that

[lucid iron]

i was thinking u patch the content pipeline

[stray sluice]

I'll definitely have to look more at tokens and conditions; they could absolutely be my roadblock.

But just seeing mod contents seems like the right thing to do to start playing with the idea.

[lucid iron]

but hm it feels like you are trying to solve a problem most people solve using alternative texture packs instead of CP

[sly lantern]

Thank you so much for the help you guys have been giving me! I think my first mod is 99% done now! All that's left is to test it some more and then publish it!!!

[calm nebula]

I love this!

Tell us when you release, we'll definitely showcase it for you

[stray sluice]

Yeah, maybe! But more detailed configuration is something I want to play with.

[tender bloom]

The symmetry is very pleasing

Are the tiles in the middle plantable? (The ones that look like tree locations)

[sly lantern]

Will do! I've been using this as an excuse to procrastinate on writing my undergrad thesis so it probably won't take too long

[tender bloom]

Or are they for sprinklers?

[sly lantern]

I made everything that doesn't have decor on top tillable, so you can use it for whichever one you prefer

[calm nebula]

(Got poke)

[tender bloom]

Nice!!

To both poke and plantability

I have no poke but I am warm

[velvet narwhal]

i mean i'm waiting on iro to make my lizards randomizable (with weight precedence) so i can make the 0.0001% chance for a nic cage lizard

[uncut viper]

do you plan on adding support for items added via things like JA or just through C# itself?

since CP is far from the only way to add an item

or textures for an item

[slender badger]

Cute! You should definitely ping Hime when you publish it, she loves seeing what people do with the HxW tilesheets

[calm nebula]

I'm really looking forward to Kailey's tilesheets

Seeing more mine maps will be really cool

[velvet narwhal]

i'm already have a blast with them but my creativity is at a standstill right now

[calm nebula]

I'm trying to talk a map modder into doing more volcano layouts

[uncut viper]

dont those work off weird pngs or something

[velvet narwhal]

kisaa does have some black sand going for me

[calm nebula]

Yesish

There are also setpieces

[stray sluice]

I think with CP I've already bitten off quite enough 🙂

[modest dagger]

am I allowed to have multiple jsons calling on the same spritesheet? cos I tried separating my products and was saying something bout them both wanting it exclusively so it didn't let either use it

[lucid iron]

you cant have 2 Load

[uncut viper]

you cant have two exclusive Load

but one can be a different priority

[lucid iron]

do 1 Load then use that target as much as u want

[uncut viper]

and Load is exclusive priority by default

[modest dagger]

so if they're the same spritesheet I can't separate the jsons

[uncut viper]

im not sure what you mean

you cant load two things exclusively to the same target

[modest dagger]

I have one spritesheet, I want to use it with multiple jsons so i can organize the jsons by product

[uncut viper]

anything you Load is universal

doesnt matter which json you load it in

there is no issue with using the same .png for different Targets

[tender bloom]

You can use it for multiple data files just fine, like if you wanted Data/ObjectInformation and Data/weapons stuff to both be on the same tilesheet

It’s just that to make that tilesheet exist, you only want to do that once

[lucid iron]

i usually do load in the content.json so i dont lose em

[modest dagger]

...so don't have the "Action":"Load" in more than one json

[lucid iron]

esp since u only need 1 Load to do everything with TargetWithoutPath

[uncut viper]

you can have as many Load actions as you want

anywhere you want

as long as they do not have the same Target and the same Exclusive priority

[slender badger]

You can have it in more than one json, you just can't Load the same thing more than once

[lucid iron]

yea i only do this for personal organization reasons

[slender badger]

What's your current code, Wiz?

[modest dagger]

Right so airyn, I separate the products by plant, only the first one needs to load the spritesheet, then the rest don't?

if they're seperate?

[uncut viper]

you should be Loading your spritesheet to a target called like {{ModId}}/PlantSprites

[lucid iron]

This is ok

{
    "Action": "Load",
    "Target": "{{ModId}}/turbine-stalk, {{ModId}}/turbine-blades",
    "FromFile": "assets/{{TargetWithoutPath}}.png"
}

This is also ok

{
    "Action": "Load",
    "Target": "{{ModId}}/turbine-stalk",
    "FromFile": "assets/turbine-stalk.png"
},
{
    "Action": "Load",
    "Target": "{{ModId}}/turbine-blades",
    "FromFile": "assets/turbine-blades.png"
}

This is not ok

{
    "Action": "Load",
    "Target": "{{ModId}}/turbine-stalk",
    "FromFile": "assets/turbine-stalk.png"
},
{
    "Action": "Load",
    "Target": "{{ModId}}/turbine-stalk",
    "FromFile": "assets/turbine-blades.png"
}

[uncut viper]

and every texture field uses that target

[lucid iron]

once i load tho i just use {{ModId}}/turbine-stalk and {{ModId}}/turbine-blades wherever i want

[slender badger]

I'd recommend Loading the tilesheet as a whole in your content.json and then putting the code for your products in Includes to organise them

[lucid iron]

it dont have to be loaded per include

[modest dagger]

i'm just going to do that

[uncut viper]

Includes are entirely organizational. once Content Patcher starts up, everything you've written is effectively put into one big content.json

so, only one Load needed

[slender badger]

Alternatively, since you've got a lot of products that are pretty much the same except for name/description/price, you could split things into multiple tilesheets and that way you can just copy-paste your indexes

[uncut viper]

though keep in mind that is technically less efficient from a performance perspective

whether you care about that is up to you

[slender badger]

Not to the level that it'd be noticeable by the player though, right?

Or is it one that'd add up over time if multiple mods are doing that?

[uncut viper]

not until you get to like, hundreds or thousands of sheets or something

[modest dagger]

no thanks

[uncut viper]

if a mod that added like 5000 items made a new sheet for each one itd probably be noticeable

but it does technically add up yes

across all mods that is

[slender badger]

I was thinking like since this is (part of) Wiz's tilesheet, he could split it by row so that there's one per meat type that'd include all of the seeds & products for that item

[uncut viper]

image loading and editing and file IO in general just tends to be the slowest kinds of things you can do

[modest dagger]

so I did try this and no luck, when shown as finished by the machine and when placed the smoked particles don't display but when held they do.

[drowsy pewter]

i never tested what ours do when placed

[tender bloom]

Do normal fish smoke at all times?

[modest dagger]

yes

[calm nebula]

No

[modest dagger]

after a brief check the smoked cheese and smoked salmon don't have the filter at all. Are they meant to?

[drowsy pewter]

no.

[modest dagger]

same thing happens to yours as it does mine, the smoked meat and egg's animation goes away when placed

i'll just accept it's outside what EMC can do atm or i'm royally misunderstanding how to do it

[verbal junco]

If I need to use multiple frameworks for a mod, am I able to do what SDVE (and I'm assuming other expansions) do and have the mod split into multiple folders for each framework?
If so, how do I handle any assets that might be shared, since going up directories isn't exactly a good solution?

[tender bloom]

A) yes b) if it’s handled by content patcher it’s fine to just make one handle it all

[uncut viper]

you can yes, though most frameworks nowadays just use CP for their actual stuff anyway, what frmaeowrks are you looking at?

[frigid aurora]

So I'm trying to figure out where to put my stardewxnbhack
Apologies, I'm on Mac
Like I'm following the trail from steam

[verbal junco]

For my volcanic farm, I'm already using Custom Farm Loader, and I was looking to add Unlockable Bundles for the purposes of building bridges on the farm.

[tender bloom]

You want the folder named MacOS that’s lurking somewhere around there

[tender bloom]

I don’t think you’ll need to handle anything across those mods, but if you do run into something definitely Ask here

That sounds like a perfectly sensible set of mods to use together

[frigid aurora]

so inside my contents is macOS, put it in there?

[tender bloom]

Uh double click it first I forget what’s inside it

If there’s like 12 million things that’s the place

[frigid aurora]

buncha stuff

[tender bloom]

Yeah that’s where you want it

[frigid aurora]

okay, thank you so much!

oh hey look its .json

[tender bloom]

There’s all kind of stuff in that folder

Mostly game files

[tiny zealot]

i wrote the transpiler. codematcher was pretty convenient!

[frigid aurora]

how likely am I to break something in my game by accident by putting this in?

[verbal junco]

There was the tiles I was gonna use for bridges, but I can just have a duplicate in the other folder.

[tender bloom]

Unlikely, and if you do break something it’s not too hard to fix

If it asks you whether you want to overwrite things, maybe stop and ask for help

[frigid aurora]

okay good, thanks !

I know how to fix this, but pffft classic mac

[hard fern]

😭

mac moment

[frigid aurora]

literally anytime I try to open any file from the internet

[hard fern]

and then there's my windows laptop who will ask "do you want to open this" only once in a blue moon and just lets me download anything and everything

😅

i sometimes think "shouldnt it be more worried about me"

[frigid aurora]

It's okay mac makes me feel cool and like some fancy hacker

really I'm just bypassing my own computer

[tender bloom]

The recent Mac antivirus has gotten really annoying

[opaque cobalt]

where do I find in unpacked content where a sprite in designated, for instance "swimming Penny" trying to see if a sprite on penny's character sheet is what I think it is

[teal bridge]

Anyone know what actually determines the "level" of a melee weapon?

[tender bloom]

I know how to un-quarantine a file via command line now

[frigid aurora]

the recent mac antivirus led me to this server

[teal bridge]

I don't see anything in the weapon data about that.

[uncut viper]

you kinda dont

[tender bloom]

The short answer is there isn’t anything

[uncut viper]

(that was at TL13)

[tender bloom]

The long answer is that some of it is on the wiki

[hard fern]

you can't really do something like that other than checking for yourself from event files/wiki/looking in-game

[lucid iron]

now u can draw 16x size 75% transparent chimkin that spins

[tender bloom]

Oops sorry forgot to ping

It’s all I’ve ever needed

Shane’s favorite coop

[tender bloom]

Pretty sure it’s in the C# and is a combo of several things

I haven’t ever poked around there much, though

[teal bridge]

Wonderful. I guess I'll just sort by max damage then.

[brave fable]

oh thank god, i've been waiting 8 years for this

[frigid aurora]

My terminal is telling me "Oops! StardewXnbHack must be placed in the Stardew Valley game folder.
See instructions: https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewXnbHack#readme."

[tender bloom]

Let me find my laptop

[frigid aurora]

thanks 😭

[gentle rose]

what folder is it in right now? just to make sure

[frigid aurora]

MacOS in the content folder of stardew valley

[tender bloom]

/Users/lizabet/Library/Application Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Stardew Valley/Contents/MacOS this is my exact location of StardewXNBHack (the Unix executable file)

(lizabet is my username)

[frigid aurora]

same place

[tender bloom]

iiinteresting

do you have SMAPI?

[frigid aurora]

I swapped your lizbet with my name

yes

[brave fable]

shouldn't it be in the Stardew Valley folder, or is that only for windows?

[tender bloom]

windows, I assume

I just tested re-running my stardewxnbhack and it's working from the filepath I sent

[frigid aurora]

would i be able to stream for you? maybe I'm missing something

any idea what "The default interactive shell is now zsh.
To update your account to use zsh, please run chsh -s /bin/zsh." means?

[tender bloom]

oh that's a terminal thing

zsh is one of the terminal flavors iirc

Idk if this server has a way to stream but this is the location of mine in the columns view of finder, which I find more helpful usually

[calm nebula]

zsh is love, zsh is life

[tiny zealot]

this is some unix shit that you probably don't need to worry about (in general, but especially) if you don't plan to spend a lot of time in Terminal.app

[brave fable]

you should be able to stream in the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/458291547415248897

[frigid aurora]

I won't worry about it

[brave fable]

(role permitting)

i can't get rid of that embed btw i regret this

[frigid aurora]

role not permitting

[uncut viper]

MeleeWeapon.getItemLevel()

[hard fern]

what does wizard tower even do

[rancid temple]

It's where the Wizard lives

[tender bloom]

paste this into terminal /Users/USERNAME/Library/Application\ Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Stardew\ Valley/Contents/MacOS/StardewXnbHack

~/Library/Application\ Support/Steam/steamapps/common/Stardew\ Valley/Contents/MacOS/StardewXnbHack

[frigid aurora]

Thank you so much!

[tender bloom]

np!

[frigid aurora]

Literally my hero

[teal bridge]

Ah interesting, I think that will work

[slender badger]

Chu, why 😂

[tiny zealot]

but can you throw 16x size 75% transparent spinning chimkin

[nova gale]

I've added small compatability mods for various other mods that add gems, do you have one that does so as well? I'll happy make a little compat patch

it'll work out of the box if they are flagged as gems in the polisher, and the pulverizer will pulverize any new gems into generic "gemstone dust" for brewing into dwarven spirits, but adding jewelry I'll need to create sprites and specific machine recipes

[scarlet pasture]

I'm looking into how to make a dialogue mod, and have a question on how some of the randomization works. I don't see why there are 5 Indoor_Night dialogues with 2-3 options each, rather than just 11 dialogues. I looked through the modding dialogue page and it answered a lot of questions, but not all. Is it just to "trick" the game into choosing from 11 different options, rather than the 5 normally supported?

[slender badger]

Could this be the collaboration we've all been waiting for? 👀

[uncut viper]

Indoor_Night only goes up to 4

[tender bloom]

the game itself has some limited randomization

[slender badger]

By default the game only allows those five dialogue keys in the marriage dialogue

[uncut viper]

so you can use i18n to effectively add more options by doing that

[tender bloom]

so the modder here is building on that to randomize within each randomized key

why only 4? life is full of mysteries

[uncut viper]

if i was to choose a random limit, 5 seems like a good limit to have

nice round number

[calm nebula]

That's when CA got tired of writing dialogue

[uncut viper]

so 0-4 makes sense to me

[tender bloom]

i guess i could choose which 5 sentences to say forever

[hard fern]

so since only 5 keys u can use a random token to stick to those 5 while having more options? (if i am interpreting that image properly)

[scarlet pasture]

Gotcha. So it is kinda tricking the game haha. Thanks for the help!

[calm nebula]

I wonder how many items he got into summerobjects

[uncut viper]

prevents having to load potentially infinite dialogues from their dialogue file just to count how many options there are

[tender bloom]

after all, when you get married, you no longer need to leave the house very often, right? /s

[tender bloom]

yep!!

[calm nebula]

The dream

||well, if work from home is an option||

[tender bloom]

i can see i have a lot to look forward to

[brave fable]

i had no idea i was married.

[calm nebula]

Tbh wfh would be bad for me

[tender bloom]

my students, on the other hand, may object

[brave fable]

if only i knew who to

[calm nebula]

I would walk outside just to run and do nothing else

[tender bloom]

I enjoy leaving the house when it's not absolutely freezing out

[slender badger]

Maybe you get to be the one who goes outside and your fiance will stop leaving the house?

[uncut viper]

being able to do t hat seems like one of the main benefits of wfh

[calm nebula]

My mom is really turning up the "get married" pressure 😦

[tender bloom]

ahhh, right, every couple consists of one person who runs around town constantly sprinting, and one who stays home and stares at the furniture, I forgot

[uncut viper]

sometimes you can fill up the water bowl

[tender bloom]

it sounds like atra has both covered, so no need for marriage

[thin hamlet]

#1274015315990417478 I wanna wait a little while while I get my footing through the door and learn a little bit more

[scarlet pasture]

A quick follow-up question. The content patcher documentation says they update their fields when the day starts by default. This means each of the 5 slots will be rerolled at the start of the day?

[uncut viper]

correct

[thin hamlet]

There’s currently only two gems with polished variants and I was hoping to add a tumbler instead

[scarlet pasture]

Awesome ty

[nova gale]

sorry, I meant that if your gems have a category of -2, they can put them in my polishers from Dwarven Expansion

sorry, I saw your conversation from this morning and was just letting you know

[thin hamlet]

It’s alright

I’d like jewelry at some point

[hard fern]

👀

did someone say jewelry

[thin hamlet]

Compatibility with the dwarven mod in some ways is a high likelihood

[nova gale]

I already found your mod and downloaded it, I'll make jewelry today or tomorrow

[slender badger]

Ooh, this is interesting to know 👀 My star fragments are categorised as gems, so I'll make a note in the mod description that they'll work with the Dwarven Expansion polisher

[nova gale]

I might try and make yours using a colored object using the new 1.6.9 feature

[modest dagger]

what does the polisher do? Increase the quality?

[nova gale]

yeah

mine does

[slender badger]

VMV also adds a gem polisher, I think, so I'll make a note of that too

[nova gale]

the one in VMV actually has a different object of "polished X"

those can also be polished in mine and increase quality

[thin hamlet]

Well let me know how that goes, idk much beyond adding rocks

[modest dagger]

bugger, I was hoping i could use it as a way to write less code for my machines

[thin hamlet]

I’m gonna look at the basics of adding a machine or smthn

[nova gale]

mine you canuse with no code, the VMV one you'd have to add recipes, yeah

it doesn't take long, it's mostly just the sprite work (which I'm not amazing at!) but the new color stuff looks cool, and it might prevent me needing to make 38 seperate sprites 😛

[slender badger]

Ahh, makes sense!

[thin hamlet]

Lol

[nova gale]

and I checked, your mod already adds color tags so that should work

[thin hamlet]

Well hey post your work in #1274015315990417478

[slender badger]

Mine or Toni's?

[nova gale]

Toni's

not sure about yours, what mod is yours?

[slender badger]

Star Fragments

[thin hamlet]

I think the color tags already exist in the game so im not “adding” them afaik, but yeah

[nova gale]

ah, I'll note that and add jewelry for those as well

right, i mean your records in the mod have them specified

[thin hamlet]

I still dont know much as i just mentioned

Yeah

[nova gale]

{
            "LogName": "Add AlexCrys",
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/Objects",
            "Entries": {
                "Alexandrite": {
                    "Name": "Alexandrite",
                    "Price": 250,
                    "IsDrink": false,
                    "Edibility": -300,
                    "Type": "Minerals",
                    "Category": -2,
                    "ExcludeFromRandomSale": true,
                    "ExcludeFromShippingCollection": true,
                    "DisplayName": "Alexandrite",
                    "Description": "Displays a color change dependent upon the nature of ambient lighting.",
                    "SpriteIndex": 0,
                    "Texture": "Mods\\[CP] More Custom Gems Conversion\\assets",
                    "ContextTags": [
                        "color_purple",
                        "color_blue",
                        "purple_gem",
                        "blue_gem",
                        "beryl_item",
                    ]
                }
            }
        },

like that

[slender badger]

If you like! I wasn't sure if they'd fit thematically since they're basically meteorites rather than subterranean objects, but I'm always up for compat stuff

Let me know if there's anything you'd need me to edit on my end

[nova gale]

eh makes things feel more seamless if they work, and since they'll natively work in the polisher and pulverizer having them work in the jewelry machien is nice ¯_(ツ)_/¯

I do mine as direct patches so taht if I have to update your record I can do a content patcher edit on your record to add tags and stuff if need be

[slender badger]

Sounds good 😄

[thin hamlet]

Stuff like beryl_item didnt really have a use in MCGM before afaik, I just copied the info over

But yeah

Both mods should have color tags!

[nova gale]

yeah, I would assume those are so you can either clump them for other recipes or so you can add them to various shop lists and stuff

[thin hamlet]

Ooo i didnt think of that

That will be useful down the line

When theres like a couple hundred

[nova gale]

yeah, I use the context tags for that quite a bit

[thin hamlet]

Does the gem polisher just increase quality, or does it make new gems altogether?

[nova gale]

mine just increases quality (silver -> gold -> iridium)

[light bramble]

Two questions. Question one, the trinkets that have little followers. Can those follower sprites be edited via content patcher and if so where are they located in the game files.

Question two, I have a...rather insistent(?) person asking me if my Large Cheese and Mayo mod will have conflicts with SVE given that SVE adds a crafting recipe for a cheese wheel and changes the price for the base cheeses...is there a way to check that without having to progress through SVE far enough to test???

[hard fern]

😅 sorry for butting in, but i hope it's okay that i had been working on a mod that does a lot of the same things as yours does, with jewelrymaking...

[nova gale]

that's why it can work with all gems out of the box, it just takes anything categorized as a -2 and spits out the same object with the quality increased

[thin hamlet]

Because if it just increases quality, that would be much better for my tumbler which will make “different” objects altogether

[uncut viper]

changing the price and adding a completely different recipe should have no affect whatsoever

[slender badger]

Yep, the trinket sprites can be edited. There's a number of mods on Nexus that you could use as reference

[modest dagger]

also you're under no obligation to test compat

[uncut viper]

tell them "It should work but feel free to report it if it doesn't!" if you care

[gentle rose]

wait, which mod(s) is/are adding a jewellery machine? somebody asked for one in the mod ideas repo!

[slender badger]

Can always two cakes it, Forsy 😄 How does yours work?

[light bramble]

I mean I sent this as a responce...was i too mean?

[thin hamlet]

Great! Great! The tumbler can still work as intended then

[nova gale]

Go for it, I only added jewelry to mine because the old jewelry craft mod had stopped working way back when

[warm imp]

the trinket companion sprites are in tilesheets/companions

[modest dagger]

better response than i do rose, I just say i'll look into it and never reply

[light bramble]

This mod

[uncut viper]

no, that sounds like a perfectly fine response to me

[light bramble]

I think

XD

[thin hamlet]

My idea for jewelry is like making a magnetite ring thats like the normal magnetic ring just for the lols

[slender badger]

Sounds fine to me. With "I should be worried about compat" though, you absolutely don't have to be

[thin hamlet]

Like just extra variety/collectability for my little loot goblin brain

[nova gale]

Dwarven Expansion adds one as well

[brittle pasture]

there used to be at least 2 JA/PFM-based ones

[slender badger]

WAG doesn't add jewellery?

[hard fern]

it's still in very early stages haha (its literally only notes), but its going to be half actually dealing with gemstones, and half with working with metal in order to have something to set the jewelry in, and i wanted to make use of better crafting's custom menus again^^

[light bramble]

Ok I was just really worried I was coming off too harsh...they've pmed me a bunch too...

[thin hamlet]

What exactly does it do? Are the jewelry just sellable objects?

[light bramble]

Then I was wrong lol XD

[brittle pasture]

well I say used to, technically JA/PFM still works

[uncut viper]

(tbh, looking at their response to you after, i wouldve just deleted their comments lol)

[nova gale]

yeah, they are just artisan goods, they were literally added to give mining a more profitable route somewhat similar to Wine making

[slender badger]

Honestly, I'd recommend blocking them if they're refusing to accept you saying that. What you replied with is valid and you're under no obligation to provide SVE compat.

[nova gale]

to make a pure-mining run more viable

[light bramble]

Yeah no I just saw that response...

I....I am shook

[uncut viper]

if theyve PM'd you about it too i would also just block and move on

[light bramble]

I am mad

[hard fern]

(the reason my mod is still only notes is because im doing my best as to not overload myself for trying to do too much at once ahaha...)

[thin hamlet]

Okay cool, so me making wearable rings from certain minerals wont be a bad idea then

I dont wanna copy yall

[slender badger]

Oh. It's DummyAccount03

[light bramble]

Oh I wanna so passive aggressive to them...

[slender badger]

Just delete & block, they do this to a lot of people

[uncut viper]

better to just delete their comments and block them. no reason to have other people seeing the negativity when they go to look at your posts

[nova gale]

if you need any info on how the machine recipes and such works hit me up, I've experimented with a lot of the settings and stuff (some of the machiens I added to dwarven expansion were purely so I could play with some new 1.6 feature in CP)

[thin hamlet]

Yeah I give you permission to make both of my mods compatible with DE 🙂

[brittle pasture]

(Welp I guess I gotta take a third look at the furniture display code)

[thin hamlet]

Ill keep this noted as well

[light bramble]

I'm just gonna reply to their message like:
Thank you for the spelling lesson, I should note that I never once wanted to be an English major so I never studied it past my requirements in college and the occasion look when I write stories. Please enjoy your block.

[slender badger]

Don't. Just block them, delete, and move on, it's not worth replying.

[light bramble]

XD

I wont. But I might report it...

[tender bloom]

Yeah, that's the kind of thing I would write out, huff a bit, and then delete before blocking them

[hard fern]

yeah, you shouldnt have to feel stressed ^^ it's important to look out for yourself

[uncut viper]

arent you still touching grass

[thin hamlet]

Do you need all the rocks made into the gems category then @nova gale

[tender bloom]

But this person is a bit notorious for these kind of comments, if that helps you put them out of mind

[modest dagger]

shh shh let selph code button

[uncut viper]

i am firmly on the side of vacations

[thin hamlet]

I know MCGM has some gems some minerals and TCC has them all labeled minerals

[tender bloom]

there's no grass to be touched — it's all snow

[brittle pasture]

I only said I'll take a look, I will do absolutely nothing

[uncut viper]

(mod) working on your vacation...

[light bramble]

I think I know what I am gonna do. In the words of r/askouija: Goodbye

[patent lance]

https://reddit.com/r/askouija:

[uncut viper]

thanks uber

[light bramble]

Thank you maru's Robot

[nova gale]

the nodes don't need to be, but only things that are gem category will work in a few of the other machines

[thin hamlet]

Tell me what I need to do basically and I’ll get working on it Friday/the weekend probably

[gentle rose]

rose, I just saw the comment they replied to you with. Please block them, you don’t need to deal with this kind of behaviour.

[nova gale]

if you do make them gem category though keep in mine that players can duplicate that item in the crystalarium, so if you don't want that you also have to add a tag

[modest dagger]

if anyone starts correcting your grammar in a comment instablock them

[thin hamlet]

Okay I can switch all the objects to the Gems category

[thin hamlet]

What tag?

Probably just the 3 Life/Death Crystals from MGCM will need the tag as theyre supposed to be rare

[nova gale]

any gem you don't want to duplicate has to ahve the "crystalarium_banned" context tag

oh, yeah your "Crystal of Death" is probably currently duplicatable in the crystalarium right now, looking at your config

at least in MCGM

since it's already gem category

[thin hamlet]

Oops

Well thatll be patched

[brittle ledge]

I closed one linking them to VMV since that's the closest we have right now iirc

Actually in theory Jewelcraft should work, it's JA/PFM

[brittle pasture]

ok this is weird, the smoked meat should be nice and smoky if it's a colored object on the table
maybe the machine rules is wrong? or I could be wrong; anyway that's the most I will look into this for now

[thin hamlet]

Feel free to make them all be “gems” yourself if you wanna start work on the compat, ill update the main files this weekend

[nova gale]

30 of the ones from MCGM already are

[thin hamlet]

Oh wow, really?

[nova gale]

and the ones that aren't probably don't make sense as gems anyway (like the coral)

[modest dagger]

no no hold on what do you mean coloured object

[thin hamlet]

Yeah makes sense

[brittle pasture]

jewelcraft has really nice sprites, love their faberge eggs. I hope the author ports it someday lol

[modest dagger]

I need to add a damn colour context tag or something??

[nova gale]

yeah, jewelcraft had way better sprite work then I do

for their jewelry

[brittle ledge]

undare was in making-mods the other day!

[tiny zealot]

on my current semi-silly project: i am using Game1.playSound(string cueName, int? pitch = null) to play some sounds and i don't notice any difference at all no matter what value i supply for pitch. have i missed something?

[brittle pasture]

Do your input meat items have color tags

[thin hamlet]

If it seems like a crystal, crystal tag it, i know everything in TCC is labeled minerals rn

[modest dagger]

Nope, only the initial plants

I need colour tags don't I

[brittle ledge]

someone was just talking about this, you have to adjust it a LOT

[nova gale]

oh "minerals" is the type, the category is what decides if it's a gem ("category": -2 is gem)

[uncut viper]

oh you would not fucking believe how much this shit frustrated me for Graveyards.

[brittle ledge]

one second, let me see if I can find it

[uncut viper]

change the pitch after you call that function

[brave fable]

pitch is measured in the 100s-1000s

[thin hamlet]

Keep me updated in the threads, ill be busy all day tomorrow (i think TCC might all be -2 already)

[tiny zealot]

when i say "no matter", i mean i have tried multiple orders of magnitude. i already know about 0 to 2400

[nova gale]

yeah, looking at your stuff I think most of it is already good to go

[brittle pasture]

okay that's why CopyColor wasnt working. Okay, you technically don't need to add color tags to your meat, just add "ObjectColor": "White" to your machine rules that are smoking the meat

[light bramble]

question, do we have any proof/screenshots of thier comments like this? Cuz I would like to report them to nexus for their conduct as it does count (loosely) as harassment.

[thin hamlet]

Neat!

Let me know if you changed anything so i can update it then 🙂

[uncut viper]

https://github.com/Spiderbuttons/Graveyards/blob/main/Graveyards/ModEntry.cs#L697

[nova gale]

I'll be working throughout the week, so I'll work on some sprites and stuff to try and make it work, not sure what kind of jewelry to do for yours (I tend to do a different jewelry type for each mod, so that if they duplicate a gemstone the mods produce different items)

[brittle pasture]

fair warning, that might look weird; try "Black" instead if it does

[thin hamlet]

Nothing in my mods is duplicates

[nova gale]

so my main mod does necklaces and rings, for VMV I did bracelets, for the geology mod I made their minerals into broaches

[thin hamlet]

Im gonna try and prevent that

[uncut viper]

i have no earthly or otherworldly clue why the pitch needs to be changed after

[thin hamlet]

And if there are, its retex only, i think i specified that in TCC

[nova gale]

I meant with other similar mods, so like if both you and geology mod had onyx (or something) the onyx from their mod would make a broach and the onyx from your mod might make earings (or whatever)

[thin hamlet]

Ohhh okay

[nova gale]

make it easier when someone reports a bug

i can tell which mod it's from by what got made

[slender badger]

Oh, that's a neat way of handling things 😄

[nova gale]

😛

[thin hamlet]

Nice

[brave fable]

cue/pitch example```cs
if (this._engineCue is null)
{
Game1.playSound("heavyEngine", out this._engineCue);
this._engineCue.Pause();
this._engineCue.SetVariable("Frequency", 75f);
this._engineCue.SetVariable("Volume", 100f * Game1.options.ambientVolumeLevel * volume);
this._engineCue.Resume();
}
if (!this._engineCue.IsPlaying)
{
this._engineCue.Play();
}

this._engineCue.Pitch = 0.75f - this._velocity / 25f;

i really do hate cues

[thin hamlet]

Idk what jewelry is out there, surprise me 🙂

[uncut viper]

i have messed with Cues and Variables and RPCCurves far more than i wouldve ever liked to

[nova gale]

the bigger issue is "what jewelry can I craft from vanilla assets since I can't art my way out of a wet paper bag" 😛

[thin hamlet]

The jewelry im planning on adding is just like vanilla rings and such, ie Magnetite gives a magnetic type ring

This is exciting!

[modest dagger]

definitely smoked 😭 i'll fuck around with the colour and see what happens

[uncut viper]

mm, charcoal

[thin hamlet]

Yummy

[nova gale]

thats less smoked and more...uhh...deliciously charred

[thin hamlet]

Anyways, i gtg

[brittle pasture]

yeah, making a colored object does mean the game will color it
have you tried White

[nova gale]

having said all of this, I should probably release my new animals really quick before I start new patch mods

[brittle pasture]

anyway as a workaround to make the game not color them at all, you can

• in Data/Objects set that field that makes the color from next index to true (I forgot its name)
• in your sprite sheet just make the index next to the sprite blank

[light bramble]

cronch cronch

[brittle pasture]

But do test that placing them on tables work first

[modest dagger]

oh i placed it on a table and it worked fine

[tiny zealot]

extremely cursed, but thanks button. it works to change it after calling play

[brittle ledge]

okay, I was tolerating the inane comments on my mod, but NOW they can go get ed

[tender bloom]

I've never interacted with them personally, but I have heard the username enough to pick up on the trend

[brittle ledge]

[block]

[uncut viper]

good luck if you ever try messing with the more internal stuff inside those Cues

nothing but pain awaits if you do

[light bramble]

Yeah I blocked and reported them

[brave fable]

fuck cues. i hate volume. i hate setvariable. i hate cues

[hard fern]

...i really thought of pool cues first over everything else

[uncut viper]

once you start manually needing to call XACTSoundEffectInstance._UpdateRPCVariables() or whatever manually you should probably rethink what you're doing

[modest dagger]

so glad i'll never reach that point bc wtf did you just say

[uncut viper]

oh yknow

[brave fable]

maybe that's where i went wrong. i wasn't calling that

[uncut viper]

genuinely it mightve been. things started working better after i started doing that

[tiny zealot]

i had my fill of cues back in 1.5 when i was only barely interacting with them (loading an ogg, building a waveform in memory, then wrapping it in a cue) and even just the little thing i had to do now because playSound doesn't work properly is too much. i have some regrets

[uncut viper]

relatedly do either of you know what the fuck a filterQ is bc i dont. i just fuck with it until it sounds how i want

[calm nebula]

Q?

[uncut viper]

or maybe you'd know it by its legal name, _rpcFilterQFactor

[thin hamlet]

What is this for? What should I be on the lookout for?

[calm nebula]

?

[thin hamlet]

I had a bot comment once but i got it removed

[uncut viper]

what the hell is the fractional bandwidth

[thin hamlet]

If thats what you mean

[tiny zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/futurama-hermes-conrad-bender-raises-more-questions-gif-10141495

[calm nebula]

Not at my computer but yeah

[thin hamlet]

Lol

[brittle pasture]

ah yes, words. I read words once

[tiny zealot]

anyway i hope i never have to deal with whatever that is. hopefully the dumb thing i am doing now will not lead there

[thin hamlet]

“Wow!”
Later edited to something about either a tea companyvor an NSFW link, was not about to click it

The name was a bit sus

Anyways i need to sleep

[uncut viper]

i still dont really understand what it is but i understand that if i fuck with it enough with a low pass filter enough i can get neato lofi music

[thin hamlet]

Early morning, goodnight!

Thats a vibe

[uncut viper]

are you willing to share what the dumb thing is or is it a Surprise

[tiny zealot]

currently still an ichortower trade secret

[modest dagger]

well the smoke animation works when it's on a table now so that's a success

[uncut viper]

well if the trade secret ever does lead you there feel free to ask so i can feel like my time trudging through XNA sound stuff wasnt a total waste

[brittle pasture]

nice
side note but this is partially why I procrastinated on a custom item effects system (beyond smoke) - the game optimizes draw codes away and just grab the base sprite in half the places you see them lol
at least making them colored objects bypasses most of them

[uncut viper]

can you add support for smoking book reading please

[brittle pasture]

(the other big reason is that I'm reasonably confident I can snipe chu into working on it for me)

[uncut viper]

@lucid iron can you add support for smoking book reading please

[lucid iron]

does it need to smoke while u read it

[uncut viper]

yes

[lucid iron]

is it like death note

[uncut viper]

i would actually genuinely like that and would immediately add a new book to my mod to use it

some sort of volcano book

[modest dagger]

only thing it doesn't do is apply the filter while placed but beggars can't be choosers

like the grey goes away but i assume that's cos of it being coloured

[uncut viper]

they cant? have you seen the mod ideas repo?

semi related to books, using reflection is there a method to get Every Method Ever or do i have to like, at least specify an assembly at minimum

[frigid aurora]

So let's say I've made a shirt, how would one go about getting said shirt into the game?

[modest dagger]

ah! Selph I figured it out (kind of) I just changed the object colour to gray

[uncut viper]

either editing Data/shirts or using Fashion Sense

[frigid aurora]

As a user I enjoy fashion sense, how would I get my shirt into fashion sense?

[uncut viper]

you would need to look at Fashion Sense's documentation

[tender bloom]

https://github.com/Floogen/FashionSense/wiki/Creating-a-Content-Pack

[brittle pasture]

Nice!
one more question if you dont mind- did you try white and what did it look like when you did

[frigid aurora]

Classical Math Person you're just helping my sorry little butt left and right tonight

[modest dagger]

white was clear with the smoke particles

[tender bloom]

my browser history already remembered the FS github lol

[modest dagger]

weird that it only works when made by the machine but honestly i doubt anyone will be spawning it in

[brittle pasture]

it's because machines is a reliable source of colored objects, and colored objects prevent the game from optimizing away the delicious smoke draws

[lucid iron]

i believe u need at least assembly

[nova gale]

I don't know your position, but I'm a fan of "bugs reported as a result of unauthorized actions like spawning and debug commands won't be fixed" 😛

[lusty elm]

Where would i go to refresh myself on how to make a config menu

[lucid iron]

but i guess u can just patch wherever smapi loads mods

and know every assembly ever

[uncut viper]

hm... true. i forgot smapi has to know all the assemblies

[brittle pasture]

(oh you're a sdv modder? name every mod assembly)

[lucid iron]

newtonsoft.json

[uncut viper]

how bad of an idea is it on a scale from 1-10 to search through the IL of every method in every assembly

[brittle pasture]

GMCM repo has a tutorial

[lucid iron]

what r u doin button

[nova gale]

am I crazy or were config.json files creating default menus for awhile, but now it feels like it stopped (or I dropped a mod I didn't mean to and they went away)

[brittle pasture]

is this for the cue switcher to end all cue switchers

[uncut viper]

i was considering patching every method that ldstr "GSQ HERE" to alter the gsq under certain conditions

is that a crime

[brittle pasture]

it's automatic for CP mods
C# mods have always needed API integration

[lusty elm]

Thanks, I was looking on the wiki for one but only found one for smapi mods

[lucid iron]

so it is cueswap but chaotic evil

[nova gale]

oh that probably explains it, my Dwarven Expansion is pure CP but Darkest Depths is C#

[uncut viper]

not even anything to do with cues actually

[calm nebula]

Oh god

What is button up to

[lucid iron]

no i mean, the idea of "patch some rando ldstr in the code"