making-mods-general

[uncut viper]

JSON has specific rules and syntax you need to follow so things cant just be pasted into there wherever or whenever

[oblique frost]

I was learning a bit of coding last year so I remember that but I mustve looked past it at 3am last night lol. But yeah I made the content and manifest, then found the wiki and copied it so I forgot to delete what I already pasted

I'll see if it works now because theres no error now

Well the new NPC is showing on the map, but theyre not showing in game at the bus stop (which is where it says they will be)

[velvet narwhal]

damn i should've asked pathos if i could include include the local tokens

[velvet narwhal]

i think you'll need actual schedule data at least the spring key

[oblique frost]

I used Abigail's schedule json from the game files, is that not enough to give this NPC a schedule?

Maybe the content isnt loading it correctly?

[velvet narwhal]

i'm quite unsure of the specifics of what happens when those things are loaded

[oblique frost]

Hmm okay thank you. Does anyone know what could be wrong with the schedule? The NPC shows up in the map and in the social tab, so the mod is working but the NPC isnt actually showing up and moving around. Im assuming this is because of the schedule not working. I used Abigail's so what could be wrong with it?

[tender bloom]

Schedules are often temperamental, but usually it’s because the path is blocked

Sometimes it’s because you need two times minimum

Sometimes it’s because there’s something wrong with your time formats

Or the entire format

[ivory plume]

Yep, local tokens on an Action: Include patch are inherited by all the included patches. That applies recursively; you can add local tokens on an included Action: Include patch, which is merged into the inherited local tokens and then inherited by all the included included patches, which can then have an included included Action: Include patch...

[uncut viper]

(psst Pathos, the markdown links for LocalTokens in the Overview sections of pages like actions-editdata.md for the CP docs link to a non-existent anchor link in author-guide.md instead of to tokens.md)

[oblique frost]

Hmm okay.. the NPC is set to spawn at the bus stop but theyre not actually visibly there. Maybe the coords are set to off the map or something. Which file states the spawn point?

[uncut viper]

wait, what happens if you define a localtoken in an included file and give it the same name as a localtoken it inherited? does it overwrite it, or does it not allow it?

[versed wyvern]

Also are you checking for the character on a new save/day? I believe I've seen it said schedules are calculated when going to bed for existing saves so if you just continued a file they wouldn't have their schedule loaded

[oblique frost]

I'll try that right now. And I just checked, the home coordinates are set to 4, 5 at the bus stop, does that seem right?

[ivory plume]

That will overwrite the token's value for that patch (and its included patches if applicable).

[uncut viper]

ooo

very nice

[tiny zealot]

try 14, 5. i think 4, 5 is off in the brush to the left (BusStop was made wider in 1.6)

[ivory plume]

(You can also do crazy things like use an inherited local token to overwrite itself, like "SomeTokenName": "{{Query: {{SomeTokenName}} + 1}}".)

[uncut viper]

i cant think of a scenario yet where id need it, but i love being able to do it

[velvet narwhal]

[upbeat condor]

Im making my custom map and cant figure out how to make a warp in from the town. I have a warp out already. Any help would be great

[ivory plume]

Fixed. Thanks for pointing it out!

[velvet narwhal]

hmm, weird

[Content Patcher] Ignored Voidsent > CHAOS BEGIN > Data/NPCData/NPCData.json > Include Data/NPCData/A_Template_NPCs.json > Load Characters/{{ModId}}_{{NPCNAME}}: the Target is invalid: '{{NPCNAME}}' can't be used as a token because that token could not be found.
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/30c7343a1f384bd4813b2efa5b92a16d NPCData.json
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/d97b4b4f3aa743a89b89746139b4c97c A_Template_NPCs

[versed wyvern]

Have you already tried using EditMap AddWarps in your json?

[oblique frost]

It worked thank you!!! She showed up and it looks like the schedule is working now. Where can I see what coordinates Im at in the game for future reference?

[upbeat condor]

I feel stupid that I forgot to do that, will try now.

[tiny zealot]

yw! there's a mod called Debug Mode which can show you useful stuff including your current position.
alternately, Console Commands has a debug command which will print your position in the console (less useful overall, but it comes bundled with SMAPI): type debug ppp (stands for Print Player Position) in your SMAPI console and hit enter

[oblique frost]

Thanks a lot! I'll download that

[velvet narwhal]

o hwait

i'm dumb

haha don't look at me

[uncut viper]

what was the issue cuz i couldnt see anything wrong

[velvet narwhal]

(cp wasn't updated)

[nova gale]

apparently my other unreleased mod in broken in 1.6.9!

[uncut viper]

o

that'll do it

[nova gale]

fixes light sources

[velvet narwhal]

wait no, the error persists

[gentle rose]

I've dealt with enough mystery light source weirdness for a lifetime

[velvet narwhal]

it's also not recognizing my ConfigSchema

[oblique frost]

Whats the best way to get the default portraits/sprites onto my ipad so I can make new art for them of the exact size and position? I dont want to worsen the quality or anything

[uncut viper]

are you sure you're editing the right folder's .jsons

[tiny zealot]

i have experienced only one type of light source weirdness in my time so far and i don't relish the idea of experiencing more types

[velvet narwhal]

i should probably rename these things, but i will rename it to be blatant

[nova gale]

this just looks like the method signature changed to include an id

should be easy enough to deal with

[uncut viper]

!unpack but keep in mind its pixel art so you'll need a pixel art program on your ipad

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[uncut viper]

by that i mean you cant make them any size you want without an external mod

[oblique frost]

thanks! I set up a pixel canvas/brush on procreate so Im hoping it works well for this

Im planning on using the exact images as the canvas so that the size and position is the exact samee

[upbeat condor]

Im updating the json but the warp is in a part of the town that ive edited and I dont know how to move the edited town.tmx into the game itself

[versed wyvern]

Try this guide: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Map_Patches_and_Warps

You shouldn't be trying to include an entire edited town map, you should be patching in the local area you've made changes to with a new tmx and a map patch

[rocky anchor]

It's defaulting to 0, 0 in Cursors.png for some reason 🥲

[warm imp]

did you load the {{modid}}/hats file before trying to edit it?

looked through chat and saw your previous codes; i would use Load to add in the default sprite (I'm assuming hood down is the default) for the hood, and then use EditImage to change the sprite when it's raining/snowing/etc

[rocky anchor]

Hahaha, nope! I was just coming back to say that adding a 'Load' action fixed it

Thanks mate!

[onyx flame]

when does this trigger? I thought you can't stay past 2am which is at 2600?

[velvet narwhal]

your local-breaker-of-things found a few things with the brand new LocalTokens:
https://smapi.io/log/7c251a66690d4eb79e613d25a0da5b90 LocalTokens fail on Action:Load
https://smapi.io/json/none/5debefcf4c104b269231bb6db45d78cd NPCData.json
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/f3385032fe5b499a868f2f136063ebe2#L292 A_Template_NPCs.json

It also seems that an invalid LocalToken on the EditImage will just silently fail, not giving a warning that it's invalid (i gave the data "yep" to the PORTRAITEDIT local token)

as well as in particular the provided example doesn't work:

   "Action": "EditImage",
   "Target": "Buildings/houses",
   "FromFile": "assets/{{HouseStyle}}.png",
   "LocalTokens": {
      "HouseStyle": "{{Season}}_{{IsOutdoors}}"
   }
}```
https://smapi.io/log/ccd8ef3c49fd45afabcd6323aa4957ef EditImage warning

(i went and formatted the `Action:Load` to be:
```{
  "Action": "Load",
  "Target": "Characters/{{ModId}}_Edelweiss, Portraits/{{ModId}}_Edelweiss",
  "FromFile": "Assets/NPCS/{{TargetPathOnly}}/{{NPCNAME}}.png"
},```
and that fails too

the silent failure on EditImage is after I forced the `Action:Load` to instead be:
```{
  "Action": "Load",
  "Target": "Characters/{{ModId}}_Edelweiss, Portraits/{{ModId}}_Edelweiss",
  "FromFile": "Assets/NPCS/{{TargetPathOnly}}/{{TargetWithoutPath}}.png"
},```
so that everything would be valid

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 12 C# mods and 2 content packs.

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 3 C# mods and 1 content packs.

[velvet narwhal]

why the hell is that italicized

[uncut viper]

you have underscores in things

(RE: that provided example, i took that straight from the Content Patcher docs and put it into a content.json. thats literally the entirety of the content.json (it is format 2.5.0). there is a valid png named spring_true in an assets folder to be found, not that it got that far anyway before complaining about an invalid token)

(we think the tokens failing in Action: Load miiight be a separate issue? in that they would not work in Load actions that were in an Included file, but they would work on EditData and such in that same included file. whereas with my issue using the example from the docs, they just dont work even when not in an Included file, when theyre used in the same patch theyre declared in)

[rocky anchor]

Hmm, does anyone know why the 'hide hairstyle' value doesn't seem to work for my hat?

[velvet narwhal]

are you doing a cp hat or a fs hat

[rocky anchor]

CP

The 'hide' value is coming through my patch export in data/Hats

So it wants to work haha

[velvet narwhal]

i cannot tell what that means

your index 2 is hide?

[rocky anchor]

Ah sorry, I did a patch export command to make sure my current in-game data/hats file had updated correctly

[rocky anchor]

Yep! And it also isn't working for true

[velvet narwhal]

oh, okay, so you're seeing your entry and it's there

[rocky anchor]

She just always has pigtails

(When wearing my custom hat)

[velvet narwhal]

well true would mean that the hair would be shown

so the string should look like:
name/description/show real hair/skip hairstyle offset/tags/display name/sprite index/texture name
what does your data/hats look like

[rocky anchor]

Oh yeah, but the default hair is a ponytail, and it turns to pigtails anyway

"RainHood": "Rain Hood/Optional extra for your rain coat./hide/true//Rain Hood/0/IMS.RainyDayClothing\\Hats"

[upbeat condor]

Im trying to remove the fence in this area but no matter what i do it wont remove in game. What should I do? (Heres the code too)

[velvet narwhal]

you're not specifying a FromArea/ToArea, so do you have that custom Town.tmx as the same exact size as the town?
also, you can combine both of them into a single patch

[upbeat condor]

I used StardewXnbHack to get all vanilla data from the game so I would assume its the exact size.

Ive also been confused on the FromArea/ToArea

[velvet narwhal]

so fromarea is the map that you're using to overwrite the original, toarea is the location you're trying to overwrite

[upbeat condor]

How would I find out the Width and Height?

[velvet narwhal]

width and height is the amount of tiles

so if you wanted to make a hole in the fence you'd be 1 width and... probably 3 height or maybe a little more, i don't know how many tiles you've changed

[upbeat condor]

Ive changed about 3 tiles so seems about right

Would get the X and Y from the bottom or top of the tiles I changed?

[rocky anchor]

The true, false and hide values all still work with vanilla hats, so I'm a bit lost!

[velvet narwhal]

topleft most

[upbeat condor]

Got it

[oblique frost]

Isnt there a list on the wiki of all locations I can use in schedules? For example "SeedShop", or can I just set it to whatever name I want and only the coordinates matter?

[velvet narwhal]

Data/Locations has all of the locations in vanilla game

if you set it to an invalid name, it'll error at you that the npc can't get to the map or something

[upbeat condor]

Thank you for all of your help, it ended up working!

[oblique frost]

Thank you!

[velvet narwhal]

honestly i'm unsure because clothing is the devil to me

[oblique frost]

I have another question. Im using Abigail's schedule to edit for a new NPC Im making, and I want to know if its possible for me to add a new date that she doesnt have. For example if I just add "spring_12" and start writing a schedule, will the npc actually follow that? (given everything is written correctly)

[velvet narwhal]

you can add any valid key that you want

but you must have spring, it's what the game defaults to

[oblique frost]

Okay good to know thanks :)

I also noticed that in her schedule, she says "hey, taking a break from work?" on Mon, does that mean she says that every single monday if its just a regular monday?

[velvet narwhal]

is it monday? which one

oh you're looking at Characters/Dialogue/Abigail

that's not the same

but to answer that question, yes, they will repeat the dialogue unless it's specified year 1 only (much like for jodi talking about kent)

[oblique frost]

Ohh okay, I was thinking when I make an NPC I would have to choose 112 different dialogue pieces for each year (because 28 days and each season)

[velvet narwhal]

technically you don't have to

you can have a very expansive dialogue if you so wished, but it's not necessary

also i wouldn't suggest putting dialogue strings into your schedules, it will get messy quite fast

[oblique frost]

yeah I wont try anything like that I'm just sticking to the dialogue json

Going back to the schedule though, I can see she does some animations like sleep and sit down. Obviously I'd want to let my NPC sit sometimes, so would I have to keep it "abigail_sit_down" instead of changing the name?

I dont know how any of the animations work and Id like to avoid getting into that besides the basics

[velvet narwhal]

So that's something called animationDescriptions

[oblique frost]

Ahh I just found that. Would I make a new one there?

[velvet narwhal]

You'd editdata a new entry into there

[oblique frost]

And then are the numbers the frames they're doing in the animation?

[velvet narwhal]

the numbers correlate to the sprite index

which starts at the topmost left, starting at 0:
0 1 2 3
4 5 6 7
etc

which is a part of the Character/Abigail.png iirc

i think uhh

tia's guide as a template for it

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Making_a_Custom_NPC#Sprites

[oblique frost]

Ahhh thank you, Ill check that out

[rocky anchor]

Okay, I've patched in a copy of a vanilla hat and just renamed it to 'Test', and the show/hide hair still works correctly

So it must be something to do with my hat? 🤔

[light bramble]

Hypothetical here, say I made a mod that retextured a lot of modded items. But I didn't want people to have to download different flavors of the mod and have to replace the assets of the original mods. Could I use:

  "HasMod": "<somemodID>"
}```
within the config schema declaration so that the options for recolor didn't appear unless you had the mod that contained new textures?

[light bramble]

Why does this hate me???
https://smapi.io/log/c0630e8943a8418fb388548d2605a7bc?Mods=game~ContentPatcher

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Enterprise, with 64 C# mods and 34 content packs.

[gray bear]

what's your json look like?

[old edge]

my map patches in the museum they are small now since there was a room there.. but what if we wanted to add new maps with this logic since running out of space in museum for rooms now.

[wide flint]

Can I package a CP mod with a C# mod? What would the folder structure look like?

[rancid temple]

FolderNameHere
- CP Mod Folder
- C# Mod Folder

So long as each one has its own manifest, you're good

[brittle pasture]

also modbuildconfig has an option to do the bundling for you

[latent mauve]

How do update keys work with those, by the way? Do you just do the ??? like SVE, or leave them blank? Or give just one the update key?

[rancid temple]

I usually set one to an invalid value, I prefer it to tell the trace logs that the key is invalid rather than tell the user to tell me there's no key

[brittle pasture]

you can also give both of them the same key and the same version - no lines in log, but high chance of committing manifest crimes if you forgot to update the version in one component

[wide flint]

Thanks. Will give it a try, expecting it to not work on first attempt

[formal crown]

Hi all, is there a command or a cheat (mod) to spawn in a giant crop?

[frigid hollow]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/25310 this can set the chance to 100%?

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/23760 oh and this... if it hasn't been broken by any post 1.6 update

[royal stump]

(FTM can spawn them, but it's more involved to set up, so defer to others )

[calm nebula]

Are they normal giant crops now?

(Or bushes in disguise)

[potent frigate]

new to modding and im making a dialogue mod, but i was wondering if anyone could tell me when exactly each pool of dialogue cuts off?
for example, i read somewhere that all dialogue from 0-4 hearts is shared (once the player gets to 4 hearts with that npc, of course), but i wanted to know if 6-14 were shared also?
sorry if this info was somewhere on the wiki! i looked, but i couldnt find it.

[drowsy pewter]

I havent heard of that

that being said, I'm not an npc modder. I just havent seen that mentioned in the go-to npc tutorial

[potent frigate]

oh, maybe i misread it haha! i think it was somewhere in vanilla dialogue wiki pages, though, not the npc tutorial

[drowsy pewter]

in fact it explicitly states that a 0 heart dialogue will be covered by a 2 heart dialogue

[vernal crest]

As soon as you reach the higher heart level, dialogue lines from that heart level take precedence over lower ones.

[drowsy pewter]

If you can find the original let us know

[vernal crest]

So if you have Mon2 and Mon4, you will never see Mon2 again once you hit 4 hearts.

[potent frigate]

ohhhh i see

okay! thanks so much

unsure if my wording makes sense, but... um, if a contentpatcher mod reads an empty string (see attached), it simply won't do anything and will instead output the original game code or a higher precedent code right?
what i don't want to happen is for it to just output nothing, but from my understanding, it would only output nothing if i set it to 'null', so i just wanted to make sure

obviously i could just get rid of the stuff i'm not filling in! but i want to make sure that, while this mod is a wip, i can leave empty strings in the code so that i wouldn't have to readd it later

tl;dr: does the code ignore empty strings or nah

[frigid hollow]

it'll set the value to the empty string i think?

[potent frigate]

aw, damn

unfortunate but makes sense

i'll just comment the unfinished stuff out i suppose

[royal stump]

I eventually stopped using the fake LTF clumps (in 1.6 iirc, though they were obsolete in 1.5?)
so it's just location.resourceClumps.Add(new GiantCrop unless it's from an item framework

[potent frigate]

...ok i just realized the language i am used to programming in Also does this unsure why i thought this would be different??? i need coffee man

(p.s thank you all for answering my silly questions)

[blissful panther]

(Test packs are fun.)

[hallow prism]

in what sense? there's other places when there's still room, but you'll have to deal with other mods adding stuff for compat

[topaz zenith]

If my npc has an older child would it be possible to have both move in if you marry her

Asking incase it isn’t doable

[pine salmon]

hi everyone!! wanted some insight on an error i threw up while testing a content pack i'm making for fun. i'm editing the keg to exclude dandelions from the forage > juice rule. to do that, i've given dandelions the unique context tag "dandelion_item" and tried adding an entry to the "condition" field that goes
"!ITEM_CONTEXT_TAG Input dandelion_item": "!ITEM_CONTEXT_TAG Input dandelion_item"
unfortch, when i run the pack ingame, i just get this error:
[Content Patcher] Can't apply data patch "Liquor Cabinet of Curiosities > Include Dandelion Wine > data/dwine.json > Tweak Machine Conditions (Dandelion)" to Data/Machines: the field '(BC)12' > 'OutputRules' > 'Default_Juice' > 'Triggers' > 'ItemPlacedInMachine_Forage' > 'Condition' has type 'System.String', which isn't recognized by Content Patcher
wanted to know if theres a workaround for this besides entirely overriding the Condition field for compatibility's sake ;0; thank u sdv community!!

[vernal crest]

I'm not aware of any way to let a non-spouse NPC move in with a spouse. The closest thing I can think of is if you cause the wedding to trigger an event where your farmer asks the child to be a roommate, but a player would need to have a polyamory mod or something for that (unless you wrote your own bespoke C# code allowing it - and if you did that, you might be able to write a way for the child to move in as a roommate more seamlessly but that's beyond my knowledge).

[plucky girder]

So Diologe mods are easy. Maybe in spring, I'll see if I can manage to make a mod where the girls break the 4th wall (It's not procastadhon snow gives me headaches)

[topaz zenith]

Mkay I’ll figure smthng about that out

[lucid iron]

You can use the id_<item qid> form of tag instead of custom tag

As for ur edit not applying, you want to add to list of required tag instead of the condition

[calm nebula]

textoperations is what you want

sorry

[lucid iron]

With !tag for negation

[calm nebula]

CP docs, text operations, append ", !!ITEM_CONTEXT_TAG Input dandelion_item"

this works because , are ANDS

[lucid iron]

The bone mill has a example fkr that, to exclude bone fragment

[calm nebula]

so you're basically saying "previous, AND MINE"

[pine salmon]

ooh okay ill give that a go

[drowsy pewter]

I dont thin you want text operations

[pine salmon]

no?:0

[drowsy pewter]

            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/Machines",
            "TargetField": [
                "(BC)15",
                "OutputRules",
                "Default_Pickled",
                "Triggers",
                "ItemPlacedInMachine_Vegetable",
                "RequiredTags"
            ],
            "Entries": {
                "#-1": "!id_o_cornucopia_olive"
            }
        },```

This is what we use to exclude our olives item from being pickled under the generic vegetable rule

It's not a text field its a list of separate context tags

Oh you went the method of changing the condition rather than the trigger input

I see

[pine salmon]

i dont know if i understand the difference haha

ill give this a go, though:)

[hallow prism]

no pickled olive? sad

[drowsy pewter]

It makes a special item :P

[calm nebula]

ohhh I didn't realize you could do that lol

[pine salmon]

john to the moon is crying rivers rn

[drowsy pewter]

Both would give the same outcome but 100% my code will work

[pine salmon]

thanks everyone!!:)

[drowsy pewter]

Can I ask why you're excluding it?

[hallow prism]

was it so it's easier than moving entries?

[pine salmon]

wanted to make dandelion wine haha

[drowsy pewter]

Because the special item needs two olives, so if someone puts one olives I dont want them to get a different item

[drowsy pewter]

You dont need to do all of this to do that

in fact its worse for compatibility

[pine salmon]

well i feel real silly now

[lucid iron]

isnt dandelion wine already makeable

[drowsy pewter]

No

[pine salmon]

they turn into juice</3

[drowsy pewter]

If the vanilla Wine rule doesnt take precedence before Juice, then you should make a new Wine rule for the dandelion only, and use MoveEntries to put it above Juice

[lucid iron]

oh i prob had that one option in cornu artisan machines on for too long

[pine salmon]

oh my god moveentries never even occurred to me

[drowsy pewter]

Or move the vanilla Wine rule above Juice, but idk if that will screw with any other mods

[lucid iron]

i think making a new rule that takes explicitly dandelion make sense

[calm nebula]

is dandelion whine a thing

[lucid iron]

tho u may need to do the tag thing mentioned if u want more than 1 dandelion to be consumed

[calm nebula]

...fuck it, leaving typos today

[pine salmon]

yeah, actually!!

[frigid hollow]

it's a book and a band

[pine salmon]

fell in love with the idea on brewing youtube pfft

[frigid hollow]

but yes it is a wine

[calm nebula]

I knew dandelion tea was a thing

[pine salmon]

yeah im rigging it to require 3

[frigid hollow]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dandelion_and_burdock also this

[topaz zenith]

Is there somewhere I can find a body base for pixel sprites of npcs?

[pine salmon]

ah yes burdock. good for rat bites

[vernal crest]

!unpack The vanilla NPCs are a good starting point.

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[drowsy pewter]

Okay then yes you'll also need to do the context tag exclusion. Just make sure you use the native id_o tag rather than patching in your own tag though

[pine salmon]

the sdv server bots r so cute:)

[pine salmon]

how do i do that?

[topaz zenith]

Would this be worth buying (the sprites have no clothing but aren’t explicit so I’ll spoiler warning them)

[drowsy pewter]

its id_o_(id number of dandelion) just like in my example

[gray bear]

i mean.. if u want them then yes??

i support anything made by void

[topaz zenith]

me when I look up references and all. I see is ai..

[pine salmon]

theyre very well made im just also so unnerved by them being Naked

[topaz zenith]

Yeahh

[pine salmon]

oh their stuff is amazing

[gray bear]

it's a base, they're usually not clothed

[topaz zenith]

I’ll clothe sylvestra dw LOL

[vernal crest]

Up to you! You definitely do not need a naked base to start from (especially since there are vanilla beach sprites) but Void is a very good egg and great artist so their sprite bases are very good.

[frigid hollow]

add "before:2023" to your google search to try and filter it out ig

[gray bear]

i feel very old in this discord server atm

[topaz zenith]

Which npc would have the best vanilla sprite to look at?

[topaz zenith]

Thank you !

[pine salmon]

no yeah i get that i cannae help my kneejerk reaction though

[gray bear]

depends on what you're going for???

[vernal crest]

Don't worry Bea I will always remind you that I'm older than you if you need it /lh

[drowsy pewter]

do those npcs look really tall to anyone else?

[topaz zenith]

Sylvestras gonna be tall eventually but

First release probably not. I don’t wanna break game sprite bounds for first time

[pine salmon]

theyre tall enough to have pretty detailed hip definition at least

[gray bear]

guess i'm desensitized from years of using dA
please don't ping me in replies

[pine salmon]

oh, sorry about that!

[topaz zenith]

I might do SOME sprites but I’m waiting for ref sheet to be done

[pine salmon]

cant wait to see them hehe

[topaz zenith]

Yaaay

I need dialogue to do..but I run out of ideas so quick

[vernal crest]

Depends on what you want. My transfemme NPC Hiria is based off Demetrius and Sam because she's tall and broad but most female NPCs will probably be based on one of the female NPCs. You will probably get a feel for what works for your ideas pretty quick when you start trying to edit a vanilla NPC.

[calm nebula]

don't worry

in five years your knees will start hurting

[gray bear]

my knees already hurt! it's how i know it's going to rain sometimes

[vernal crest]

(Just FYI, you pinged Susan who also has "@ Off" in her name. I recommend you start checking for that because it's pretty common in this server.)

[topaz zenith]

She’s quite tall and bulky canonically but I was gonna change that to be her main overworld sprites later on

[pine salmon]

sorry to circle back to this but what does the #-1 field represent?:0

[frigid hollow]

(actually before:2022 probably works better oop)

[pine salmon]

@ aba, yeah itll take some getting used to

[frigid hollow]

(oh i forgot to unping RIP)

[topaz zenith]

Her using a male body type for sprite sheets makes sense

[drowsy pewter]

it means "add it to the beginning of the list of tags"

[pine salmon]

got it, thank you so much!

[topaz zenith]

So like it would make sense if she didn’t use the sprite bodytype women use in the game

[pine salmon]

basegame female npcs r so tiny i get that

[vernal crest]

It does! I just wanted to give you a heads up. And just to confuse you, some people like me have in their name that they actually want to be pinged in replies haha

[topaz zenith]

She’s built like ian from RSV kinda?

Except bulkier

[pine salmon]

just means i gotta do my due diligence hahaha

buff women....

[topaz zenith]

I’m gonna struggle so much

[topaz zenith]

She is buff women. LOL

[vernal crest]

This is Hiria btw for reference so you can see how much of the 16x32 space she takes up

(4x zoom so she's game-sized)

[topaz zenith]

How can I optimize gimp to best work for that?

[calm nebula]

real talk, does anyone put a non-right angle value into this and if so who hurt you.

[vernal crest]

1px brush, make sure anti-aliasing isn't turned on

[topaz zenith]

Looking for a pixel brush on gimp

[vernal crest]

If there's a pencil option (can't remember, can't be bothered opening gimp to check), that's a good choice

[gray bear]

cute!

[pine salmon]

i just closed it, there is!

[topaz zenith]

I know pixilart is a good site for pixel working on browser

[hallow prism]

oh yeah!

[vernal crest]

It's definitely not bad! Fortunately it's easy to do pixel art in almost any art program.

[topaz zenith]

Me trying to make a new layer

Found it

I’m using a mouse so it’ll look so scuffed LOL

[vernal crest]

Nooooo my session didn't save so many carefully destroyed voxels, gone!

[topaz zenith]

I wanted to keep the sprites within stardew style but I might make beta ones that aren’t

What’s an optimal size for portraits

[tough crater]

I do my art in Krita, but that's because I do ALL my art in there. Other than that, I originally used Jodi as a reference for portraits (until I decided to overhaul it lol), and used Penny as a reference for the spritesheet because my character is supposed to be on the shorter side and her sprite tends to be shorter than the others'

[gray bear]

64x64 is the only one the game recognizes without additional frameworks iirc

[topaz zenith]

Ah ty

[slender badger]

The vanilla beach sprites are horrendous though lol, especially the women - I definitely wouldn't recommend using them for anything

[topaz zenith]

I’ll probably use a male npc with more body size as a reference

Vanilla Elliott you’re my test subject.

[gray bear]

[opens abigail_beach sprite] oh. oh wow... yep those are awful

why are they standing like that

[frigid hollow]

THE LEGS??

[slender badger]

For some reason, there's a serious drop in quality with the beach art. I dunno if CA outsourced them or was just lazy that day or what

[topaz zenith]

The closest non mod npc that fits sylvestra would be Elliott on body type alone and even then he’s a bit small

[gray bear]

i think they all use the same pose and just add the head of the npc up top or something-

[frigid hollow]

leah stands differently

[topaz zenith]

Is there somewhere that has a list of every vanilla item you can gift

[gray bear]

the wiki

[vernal crest]

I will admit the legs are terrible. But after examining all the variants on sprites I could find, I have concluded that legs are just really hard at that size anyway.

[frigid hollow]

and they all seem to have somewhat different walk cycles

[tough crater]

Abigail looks like she has scoliosis

[topaz zenith]

LOOL

[tough crater]

The legs are the WORST for me to work on

[topaz zenith]

Tbf I walk different in bathing suits too so maybe that’s a partial reason

[slender badger]

The portraits too - Sebastian's ultra-wide shoulders and Clint's complete lack of shading are standout examples, but just about none of them match up with the original portraits

[mighty quest]

I swear users always find a way to break what should be unbreakable.

held.RemoveWhereNull(); <----
result = held.MaxBy(h => h.salePrice()) as SObject;

NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
   at DaLion.Ponds.Framework.Extensions.FishPondExtensions.<>c.<GetProduce>b__3_0(Item h) in G:\modded\sdv\dev\main\Ponds\Framework\Extensions\FishPondExtensions.cs:line 97
   at System.Linq.Enumerable.MaxBy[TSource,TKey](IEnumerable`1 source, Func`2 keySelector, IComparer`1 comparer) <----

[gray bear]

makes me appreciate your beach sprites (i'm assuming those are the one you sent before?)

[vernal crest]

My goal with Hiria's sprites ended up having to be "can I avoid her looking horrendously misshapen upon a casual glance" because I couldn't do anything better haha

[fading walrus]

[topaz zenith]

Quill I have a request

[gray bear]

clint...only has beard shadow

[vernal crest]

Yes! She wears a high-waisted bottom and crop tank top style bikini. And thank you

[fading walrus]

Can we please be nice while talking about the vanilla portraits, we normally don't use such harsh language with fellow mod authors' art and CA shouldn't be excluded from that!

[topaz zenith]

Can you make me a thread to picture dump Sylvestra stuff into so I don’t lose it

/nf

[fading walrus]

you do have a thread, no?

https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1324427407330906222

[topaz zenith]

I wanted to keep that one for a diff npc

[fading walrus]

this one

[topaz zenith]

Or I will mix them up badly LOL

[fading walrus]

sure

[topaz zenith]

Ty:D

I’ll make non pixelated sprites as test sprites then maybe trace over my own sprites with pixel brushes

[fading walrus]

Susan's Thread 2: Electric Boogaloo

[topaz zenith]

POTRAITS*

[fading walrus]

there ye go

[gray bear]

electric boogaloo quill you're awesome

[topaz zenith]

I will use this thread like my life depends on it

Is me setting some universal likes as a dislike a bad thing genq

[gray bear]

no

[fading walrus]

no

people aren't obligated to like the same thing irl and neither are NPCs

[gray bear]

universal likes have exceptions, even univeral loves do. different folks, different strokes

[topaz zenith]

like wine and stuff she would dislike

[hallow prism]

there are people making their npc have no loved gift, including universal stuff

[topaz zenith]

She’s also allergic to eggs so she’d be offended LOL

[hallow prism]

i don't think it's like, super needed, but mod authors do what they think is nice for their mod

[round dock]

I think this is the first time I've seen Hiria, beautiful work Aba

[gray bear]

those are all fair and good

also i think eggs aren't a universal like anyway

[slender badger]

Ah, fair 😅 Sorry, Quill!

[topaz zenith]

I was wondering cuz ik immersions a huge thing for people

[fading walrus]

We should encourage all artists, including CA!

[topaz zenith]

Sylvestra won’t even accept egg products

[gray bear]

a character not liking a universal like is more immersive when they do, imo

[topaz zenith]

She’ll be offended but won’t take the item out of ur inventory

Cuz allergic to egg

[round dock]

Yeah, there's a reject gift mechanic

[fading walrus]

ye

that's fine

[vernal crest]

I am not getting too hung up on gift tastes because as soon as a player has an item mod where the mod author has decided their item is a universal like/love then poof! My carefully planned gift tastes are gone.

[round dock]

(QUILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL )

[gray bear]

i am guilty of this

[fading walrus]

(CLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIRE )

[gray bear]

but in my defense it's easier to do that and then set specific items as not that for specific npcs

[topaz zenith]

How do external item mods work as gifts for npcs?

[gray bear]

also i didn't set any universal loved besdies uhhh rainbow rock sushi and if ur npc is offended by rainbow rock u can let me know and i will add

[fading walrus]

you can set them with a when mod installed condition iirc

[gray bear]

the same as normal items

if they don't set a specific one, it defaults to the category

like for example cooking items are a universal like

[fading walrus]

just to avoid things yelling, iirc?

[vernal crest]

Don't worry, I forgive! It makes sense that as an item mod author you'd want to be able to have NPCs like your stuff!

[fading walrus]

when I set my gift tastes for npcs i admittedly don't remember adding modded npcs because i had no idea which ones would like different sodas

having the same problem now with my wip

[gray bear]

i don't actually set anything as a universal like the game does because i add dishes

[royal stump]

I wouldn't expect the game to validate IDs in gift tastes, but I don't actually know what the code looks like

[topaz zenith]

Ah thank you

I have dialogue specific to if she’s allergic to smthng lol

[round dock]

There are dialogue keys for that

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Dialogue all here

[vernal crest]

I have decided that I will set the theme for Hiria's tastes (only food) and if someone wants to play with mods that changes that, I will just Not Look lol

[topaz zenith]

Yaaay

[gray bear]

you could technically make your npc dislike specific item tags, but i'm not sure everyone uses them

[slender badger]

A lot of this is discussed in detail on the modding wiki and regular wiki

[topaz zenith]

Oh there’s a lot of dialogue to write that’s funsies :D

I lowkey love writing dialogue

[round dock]

Yup, dialogue is fairly easy. Studying docu is important.

[blissful panther]

(Has anyone considered a Scrooge NPC that dislikes everything, but has an extremely rewarding friendship arc? That could be a fun mod with some real challenge to reach the end of!)

[gray bear]

so you'd just need to talk to them

[blissful panther]

You could maybe implement custom quests and some C# to bump their friendship in special ways?

[gray bear]

you lost me at C#

[acoustic summit]

• Talking to them more than twice a week gives - friendship

[vernal crest]

I thought that was where Hiria was going at first but then I realised that allowing meals and ingredients actually makes her very easy to gift haha

[gray bear]

if i was an npc i would like any food anyone gives u

[vernal crest]

However, I do hate gift mechanics in games like these so it's still on my wishlist one day to have an NPC that dislikes all gifts

[royal stump]

spawn ghosts around town, lead them to scrooge's house at night, he starts liking things after you collect 3

[gray bear]

a plot of a horror comedy

[ornate trellis]

Just a (belated) heads-up but since these are made by me I am just stating that theyre naked because as stated they're a base and bases are for me usually best without any kind of clothes that can obscure the body shape so even someone inexperienced can try and create an NPC without accidentally messing up the body itself so they can go straight to doing the outfit/hair etc. Not sure where the unnerving part comes from as all bases i know are usually like this in any context.

[blissful panther]

Stardew quits, and loads the secret Haunted Chocolatier alpha.

[gray bear]

ooh!

we're breaching dimensions

[round dock]

Maybe Haunted Chocolatier was the Stardew Valley we knew all along

[calm nebula]

it's jan 12th and I'm still festive too

[gray bear]

"npc that doesn't believe in gift giving" is not a bad idea, i suppose

[blissful panther]

Let's just remain festive until Halloween!

[gray bear]

...what month is halloween again

[acoustic summit]

october

[royal stump]

gotta keep it up until Valentine's Day like retail stores

[gray bear]

yeah sure i'll stay festive forever

what is a year but a bunch of holidays hanging around

[topaz zenith]

I’m writing dialogue in the order the wiki shows it

Sylvestra panics at monsters in the house except for rock crabs

She loves them LOL

[calm nebula]

they're a minimalist

gifts are a bad idea

tbh that's how I feel whenever someone gives me a gift most of the time.

thanks, but now I have to store this. 😦

[topaz zenith]

Sylvestra when a mean dangerous rock crabs in the house: “Oh it’s so cute can we keep it? (as it’s being mean)

[safe apex]

HeyHey guys, can someone tell me which schedule is used at GreenRain in the first year and from the second year?

[blissful panther]

(Ah, schedule. I was typing out the dialogue keys. Caught that just in time. )

[gray bear]

yeah... it's like oh! you thought of me! where tf do i put this... oh god

[royal stump]

it looks like GreenRain_2 has first priority as a schedule key in year 2 or later, but if that doesn't exist or it's year 1, GreenRain is used

...wait, I'm also looking at dialogue code

[ivory plume]

Thanks for reporting them! I'm looking into these, which is uncovering fun edge cases like this:

{
    "Action": "Include",
    "FromFile": "{{LocalPath}}",
    "LocalTokens": {
        "LocalPath": "{{FromFile}}"
    }
}

[gray bear]

that does look fun

[ivory plume]

I might just add validation to prevent using non-inherited local tokens in Target and FromFile, since those have special parsing rules.

[royal stump]

so afaict, "GreenRain" as a schedule is only used in year 1, and there just isn't a special GreenRain schedule for other years; I imagine it falls back to normal rain behavior

[safe apex]

okay Thank you!

[gray bear]

i suppose it's less exciting if it's, already happened before huh

[topaz zenith]

should i igniore "RejectBouquet_NotDatable" since sylvestras marriageable?

and RejectBouquet_NpcAlreadyMarried

i might write smthng for those if i rival hearts her but idk if her dialogue would go funky without it

[calm nebula]

ofc, can always use a "Weather": "GreenRain" When thingie

mckthingi

[royal stump]

yeah, I don't know much about schedule priorities myself (i.e. which key would be used for year 2 green rain), but you can edit them conditionally

[golden basin]

@chrome mountain hey there its a meeeee
I would love for my feeesh to be in the aquarium mod

i have some animations for them but im cool with yall doing more and stuff too! i just love the mod

[topaz zenith]

im preparing my notes app to write dialogue

tons of it

[old edge]

Grinch

[topaz zenith]

hoping to get her gift taste done today

[chrome mountain]

we would love to have your fish at the aquarium. Currently I don't have time to add anything myself and the list of mods has gotten fairly long you're welcome to add what you have as pull request to the repo:
https://github.com/Gervig/Stardew-Aquarium-Content

[inner harbor]

Eyvind is neutral to almost everything at first but develops loved gifts as you get to know him.

Depending on how you react in events

[blissful panther]

Oh, that's super cool!

[topaz zenith]

man im making a spreadsheet of every giftable item to make her likes dislikes

[vernal crest]

That seems like a lot of work! It might be easier if you give her dislikes by categories instead.

[hybrid talon]

Question, is there a phrase you all would understand as meaning "your own inventory when you're in a chest or similar menu with two inventories, and which is treated differently from when it's the only inventory"
I'm currently calling it "secondary inventory" but I'm not sure that's clear enough
(I'm trying to word my config options better)

[topaz zenith]

yeahh for cooking and artisan tho it needs to be specified she wont accept it

[vernal crest]

Hmm, I am not sure I am following. You're referring to the player inventory, but only when they have a chest (or similar) open?

[hybrid talon]

Yes

I have keybinds that apply to it specifically when it's the little inventory below the main inventory

[vernal crest]

I don't think "secondary inventory" would convey that meaning for me because to me that implies that I have two player inventories, which I do not see myself as having. But if you have the description there from your message in the hover box, I think I would arrive at the right understanding.

[topaz zenith]

she denies anything with eggs or mayo, or anything that required either in the process of it

which isnt a lot shockingly

[hybrid talon]

The problem is that my mod can't use GMCM because the formatting I need for these particular keybinds isn't supported, so my options are 1) attempt to name the variable better or 2) put comments in a default config file

(Or a readme which nobody will read)

[topaz zenith]

would her not accepting dinosaur mayo make sense or wouild it not

[vernal crest]

If she's allergic to eggs then it would not make sense for her to accept dinosaur mayo because it would contain the same stuff she's allergic to in birds' eggs

[topaz zenith]

oh

i was wondering since idk how the dinosaur connection to chickens is

wasnt sure if they were close or not

[acoustic summit]

birds are dinos

[vernal crest]

That is trickier, yeah. Could you make the name really long so it includes the description?

[topaz zenith]

she hates crabs as gifts cuz she loves rock crabs so much

is there somewhere i can find like a full length code file for dialogue?

[vernal crest]

Do you mean with all the possible keys in it?

[topaz zenith]

yeah.

im reteaching myself coding again

[vernal crest]

No, but there are a few templates around with many of them. Let me find them.

!npc Probably some in here, if I have remembered the command correctly.

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Aviroen has put together a template that will allow you to easily create a romanceable NPC.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

• Fireredlily has a WIP NPC Builder Please do report any errors you get with it into the NPC thread!

To use this command, type !npc.

[topaz zenith]

what site/app should i use?

[vernal crest]

Ah ha. That first link to Tiakall's NPC tutorial has a dialogue section where they link to two dialogue templates.

[vernal crest]

!json these three are the most commonly suggested. I use all three lol

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[topaz zenith]

ty! ill test notepad plus

[vernal crest]

That's a good one to start with, yeah. Very lightweight and easy to just jump into the editing. I started with that.

[tough crater]

So I'm working on another NPC and for some reason, only ONE of the tilesheets won't work, but I don't understand why? The name is correct and I made sure it's not supposed to direct to any exterior folder. Can anyone help me out?

I'm trying to patch a map onto @/fireredlily's apartment mod

[vernal crest]

Did you Load it correctly?

It's saying it can't find it, so my guess is that your Load code block is wrong.

[tough crater]

These are the code blocks that interact with the map patch

[topaz zenith]

Should all the speerate code thing use diff files?

[vernal crest]

Neither of those is a Load block for loading your tilesheet into Maps.

[tough crater]

Me? Yeah I have my code separated across multiple files (and each mod uses their own folders)

[tough crater]

The tilesheet is already part of the apartment's mod, which is the wild part

[topaz zenith]

pls dont ping rn

[tough crater]

I listed that mod as a dependency and I thoguht it'd fix it

[topaz zenith]

does notepad+ have darkmode?

[vernal crest]

Up to you! Its only purpose is organisation, so if you find it easier to understand your mod having everything in the content.json instead of separated out into different files, you can do it that way instead. I started modding by doing everything in the content.json and then started using separate files as my mod got bigger.

[vernal crest]

Yup!

[topaz zenith]

its too bright on lightmode

[vernal crest]

Is it your mod?

[tough crater]

FireRedLily's apartment mod is the one that has that tilesheet

[vernal crest]

Ah that explains the FRL

[tough crater]

[topaz zenith]

me when coding is tricky

(doesnt understand the templates)

[tough crater]

Every day that I code, there's always at least one moment when I'm internally screeching

You'll get the hang of understanding the templates with time! Is it your first time stepping into modding?

[topaz zenith]

after a while yeah

[tough crater]

Feel free to ask any specific questions you have. One of us is bound to understand what's going on

[topaz zenith]

Maybe I’ll do smthng smaller as a first mod. How difficult is retexturing an item?

[vernal crest]

Right, I have found the issue. She hasn't loaded any of her tilesheets into the game.

[tough crater]

OH

The weird part is that I didn't have that issue with my main NPC

[vernal crest]

Also, she may not actually provide permission for you to use her assets anyway.

[rigid oriole]

Very small amount of code required! You can use https://github.com/lisyce/StardewValleyMods/tree/main/[CP] Duck Egg Fix as an example if you'd like

[topaz zenith]

I retextured an axe :3

[topaz zenith]

Thank you !

[tough crater]

Since it's part of the room templates, I'd be surprised if we couldn't use them

[topaz zenith]

I’m thinking about the two cakes thing

[tough crater]

We love two cakes!

[topaz zenith]

YAAY I RETEXTURED AN AXE

[tough crater]

Send pics!! Probably in #making-mods-art

[gentle rose]

try vscode, it’s dark mode by default

[vernal crest]

Fair! In that case, let us ask her. @latent mauve Raven is running into an issue trying to use your FRL_transparentborders.png tilesheet for a room in your apartment mod because you appear to not have loaded any of your tilesheets into the game. Was that intentional?

[tough crater]

Loading the tilesheets into the game makes it accessible to other people's mods, right?

[topaz zenith]

i hope my retextures work fine

[vernal crest]

Yup it puts them into Maps and then any mod can access them just like they can access vanilla assets.

[flat sluice]

Hi,
sorry if this is such a stupid question to ask (and also sorry if I'm interrupting), but when I write dialogues for events, I have to use #$b# in places where there is a direct dialogue (f.e. /speak event command) and # in places where there is an indirect dialogue (f.e. /message event command), right? I tried the #$b# in the /message event command and it took the $b as a separate dialogue, but when I used only # to separate the dialogues in the /speak event command, the whole thing after # is skipped.
Is that right? And if so, is there a way to unify the formatting of the dialogue breaks?

[tough crater]

Can you send the code for the event you're working on? It could be a syntax issue

[tiny zealot]

that sounds right. different cases call for different formatting (see also mail, which is another different format). not much you can do about it, i'm afraid

[flat sluice]

Here (https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/73e74366bf7f4d4ebc4298ec562efdb9):

      "LogName": "Eleanor - 14hearts event (p2) - Wizard's tower",
      "Action": "EditData",
      "Target": "Data/Events/WizardHouse",
      "Entries": {
        "Eleanor_14hearts-p2_pre/e Eleanor_14hearts-p1": "none/20 20/farmer 0 0 0/viewport -1000 -1000/pause 2222/message \"{{i18n:Events.14h-p2.0|PlayerName={{PlayerName}}}}\"pause 1111/switchEvent Eleanor_14hearts-p2",
        "Eleanor_14hearts-p2/e Eleanor_14hearts-p1": "none/20 20/farmer 9 33 0 Wizard 7 7 0/viewport 20 20/pause 111/move Wizard 0 14 2/pause 1111/speak Wizard \"{{i18n:Events.14h-p2.1|PlayerName={{PlayerName}}}}\"/pause 1111/speak Wizard \"{{i18n:Events.14h-p2.2|PlayerName={{PlayerName}}}}\"/pause 1111/speak Wizard \"{{i18n:Events.14h-p2.3|PlayerName={{PlayerName}}}}\"/pause 1111/speak Wizard \"{{i18n:Events.14h-p2.4|PlayerName={{PlayerName}}}}\"/pause 1111/message \"{{i18n:Events.14h-p2.5|PlayerName={{PlayerName}}}}\"/pause 1111/speak Wizard \"{{i18n:Events.14h-p2.6|PlayerName={{PlayerName}}}}\"/pause 1111/speak Wizard \"{{i18n:Events.14h-p2.7|PlayerName={{PlayerName}}}}\"/pause 1111/speak Wizard \"{{i18n:Events.14h-p2.8|PlayerName={{PlayerName}}}}\"/pause 1111/speak Wizard \"{{i18n:Events.14h-p2.9|PlayerName={{PlayerName}}}}\"/pause 1111/speak Wizard \"{{i18n:Events.14h-p2.10|PlayerName={{PlayerName}}}}\"/pause 1111/speak Wizard \"{{i18n:Events.14h-p2.11|PlayerName={{PlayerName}}}}\"/pause 1111/speak Wizard \"{{i18n:Events.14h-p2.12|PlayerName={{PlayerName}}}}\"/pause 1111/emote farmer 56/pause 1111/speak Wizard \"{{i18n:Events.14h-p2.13|PlayerName={{PlayerName}}}}\"/pause 1111/pause 1111/switchEvent Eleanor_14hearts-p3"
      },
      "When": {
        "Eleanor_14hearts-variants": "long"
      }
    },```

And i18n (https://smapi.io/json/i18n/f8cf6e7c0a4345d0b8a8936ee711ac91):

  "Events.14h-p2.1": "Yet another morning...#Wait. Something is not correct.#I can feel it in the air...#...but what is it?",
  "Events.14h-p2.2": "Hmm...#I sense a shift in the magical energy around me...",
  "Events.14h-p2.3": "I know this feeling...#...but I can't remember when I felt it last time...#...and what happened then...",
  "Events.14h-p2.4": "Oh!#{{PlayerName}}!#Why are you here this early?",
  "Events.14h-p2.5": "You tell Mr. Rasmodius about Eleanor's situation. He listens to you carefully, but he doesn't say anything.",
  "Events.14h-p2.6": "So that is why the magical energy is uncommon today...",
  "Events.14h-p2.7": "Well, it is my duty to help you find her, {{PlayerName}}.#Especially when she is my apprentice.",
  "Events.14h-p2.8": "*...sighs...*#I hope they'll forgive me for this...",
  "Events.14h-p2.9": "No.#I may have some minor knowledge about her past, but I can't tell you anything else than things that you don't already know, because that is all I know.#It's her past, not mine.#It is up to her to tell you about it...",
  "Events.14h-p2.10": "However, I suppose I know where she might be.#I can feel her magical aura.#And at least some of it is coming from Sprite Spring in the forest.",
  "Events.14h-p2.11": "I know you're worried about her, {{PlayerName}}.#But you have to be careful.#The forest is not a safe place, especially for someone like you.",
  "Events.14h-p2.12": "I'll help you find her, {{PlayerName}}.#But you have to promise me that you'll be careful.",
  "Events.14h-p2.13": "Good. Let's go then. We have to find her before something bad happens...",

[vernal crest]

Is the problem that you can't get a line break working in one of the commands or just that you wish it was either # or #$b# in both commands, not one for each?

[flat sluice]

The problem is that I tried this event and on the 2nd dialogue "Yet another morning...#Wait. Something is not correct.#I can feel it in the air...#...but what is it?", only the 1st part Yet another morning... showed while debugging. And then it continued with other event commands. That also applies for other /speak commands in this event.

[tough crater]

I noticed that for this event "Eleanor_14hearts-p2_pre/e Eleanor_14hearts-p1", you have {{i18n:Events.14h-p2.0|PlayerName={{PlayerName}}}} even though the token {{PlayerName}} isn't being used in that line of text

[tough crater]

You'll need to use #$b# to split the text

[latent mauve]

Ah, I hadn't used any of them for the base rooms, so I didn't consider that they needed to loaded in for people using the templates. I can adjust that in a new update today.

(it's mainly used for lobby shenanigans)

[vernal crest]

Ichor said that you have to use them differently for the different commands. He is knowledgeable so I trust his advice.

[topaz zenith]

I have done three tool textures

[flat sluice]

Yeah, that is because I am too lazy to search and filter i18n keys that uses them, so I applied them everywhere.

[latent mauve]

also, yes, the transparent borders are okay to redistribute, they are literally just vanilla assets with the background removed

[tough crater]

That's valid lol

[topaz zenith]

I can’t figure out the template I was sent

[tiny zealot]

@flat sluice for speak commands to continue to additional boxes (without closing), you have to use #$b# as your delimiter. (it means "next command, previous line is continued, next command"). if you really want to use plain # for this, you can try adding the literal character { to the end of the previous line ($b appends this to make it work). i've never done this and i don't recommend it

[tough crater]

Did you get it from one of the modding wiki pages? I might be able to help

[topaz zenith]

I was shown it by barley

[tiny zealot]

(i also can't guarantee it will work. that character may get replaced or ignored or something. i haven't read all the code and i don't care to since my decompile of it is frightful and full of gotos to labels like IL_08a2)

[flat sluice]

Thanks so much for such a detailed answer! It is obviously not the answer I wanted to get, but I guess I don't have any other options available, don't I?

[vernal crest]

The Content Patcher documents will explain what each of the bits like "Format" and "Action" mean. https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editimage.md

[topaz zenith]

Oke

What’s the optimal sprite size for tools

[vernal crest]

Have you unpacked your game content yet? That will let you open the vanilla tool spritesheet so you can make sure yours matches it.

[topaz zenith]

Oke

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[topaz zenith]

trying to figure out where to put the xnb thingy

nvm

what should i do with my image files to make them be retextures?

oh so i should retexture the entire sprite sheet?

[tough crater]

There's a way to replace only parts of an image

[vernal crest]

Just start with one tool for now so you can learn the whole process from start to finish.

The mod Barley shared with you is already set up for only replacing one part of a spritesheet.

[topaz zenith]

i got the basic tools inventory thing done so ee

oh

m, not sure where to look at it first

[vernal crest]

Look at what first?

[topaz zenith]

the tutorial

[vernal crest]

Uh, I don't remember there being a tutorial?

[topaz zenith]

HUH

[vernal crest]

For which thing?

[topaz zenith]

confusions

[tough crater]

Can you send us the link to the tutorial you're using?

i think that's where our confusion is coming from

[topaz zenith]

OH i was using the wrong link'

[tough crater]

It happens, no worries!

[topaz zenith]

if its editing JUST the inventory slot look what would i do

[vernal crest]

Find the file called tools.png inside the TileSheets folder and open that up in gimp.

[topaz zenith]

okay

opened

[vernal crest]

Gimp should hopefully show you the pixel coordinates if you hover over a particular spot on the page. Use that and, if it helps, a grid (set to 16x16px) to find out the top left pixel coordinate for the axe image you want to replace.

[topaz zenith]

ooo

what would i put in to use the entire sheet? i kinda wanna make an entire sprite sheet

[vernal crest]

If you want to retexture the entirety of tools.png then you wouldn't need a "ToArea" or "FromArea" field at all. You'd just have "Target": "TileSheets/tools" and "FromFile": "godpristinetools.png" (or whatever you called it).

[rigid oriole]

the link i sent is an example mod that replaces one texture (duck egg). it's not a template but you are welcome ot reference it as an example

[latent mauve]

Nexus why?! It added an extra dot to my version number (1..3.0 instead of 1.3.0) and I have no idea if it'll actually update it on the file page eventually or if I need to reupload it again now. -_-

[topaz zenith]

i mixed up the two lol

i might just make an entire sheet of retextures

[latent mauve]

So for anyone else curious now that I've fought with it: Nexus will not update the version number on a saved file unless you also change something in the description. So that's fun.

[topaz zenith]

im gonna make each set of tools a diff theme

[velvet narwhal]

One 🤏 last thing
I can't recall specifically when ichor brought it up, but were local tokens and dynamic tokens exclusive from each other? If not: [Content Patcher] Ignored Voidsent > CHAOS BEGIN > Data/NPCData/BaseNPCs.json > Excalibur: error reading info. Technical details: System.InvalidOperationException: Can't get values from a non-ready token string (raw value: {{ExAlts}}). at ContentPatcher.Framework.InternalExtensions.SplitValuesUnique(ITokenString tokenStr, Func`2 normalize) in E:\source\_Stardew\Mods.Pathoschild\ContentPatcher\Framework\InternalExtensions.cs:line 74 at ContentPatcher.Framework.LocalContext.SetLocalValue(String name, ITokenString value, Boolean ready) in E:\source\_Stardew\Mods.Pathoschild\ContentPatcher\Framework\LocalContext.cs:line 116 at ContentPatcher.Framework.PatchLoader.LoadPatch(RawContentPack rawContentPack, PatchConfig entry, LocalContext validatorPatchContext, TokenParser tokenParser, InvariantDictionary`1 inheritLocalTokens, Int32[] indexPath, LogPathBuilder path, Patch parentPatch, Action`1 logSkip) in E:\source\_Stardew\Mods.Pathoschild\ContentPatcher\Framework\PatchLoader.cs:line 486.

I will double check this one later but I have a dynamic token with 9 different values and I made sure one is always valid.
I'm unfortunately on my phone right now so I can only link my git https://github.com/Aviroen/Voidsent/blob/4216d938d4592e571793cc984201105b02ee4710/[CP] Voidsent/content.json#L49

[old edge]

Here's what the museum looks like with all the patches I've found for museum expansions. Along with my own miniscule patches. I had to edit the patch in Make Gunther Real content pack due to it glitching but now it looks like this.

[velvet narwhal]

Beeg

[rotund elm]

Hey Abagaianye! Quick question, if I am using the beach map as the base map and want to include another tilesheet from a separate map, but don't want to have to reanimate and give all the tile properties to each tile, how did I export the tilesheet from the map I am not using to import it with all that info?

I remembered we discussed it briefly but I think I keep missing it in our DM

[topaz zenith]

suffering casually

[rotund elm]

Oh no

WHyyyy

[topaz zenith]

im making a tool retexture sheet

im hyped to finish the iridium retexture to do a diff one

[rotund elm]

That sounds like self torture but I have no idea how that works XD

[rotund elm]

I'd love to see when you're finished :))))

[vernal crest]

Did you check I was online or were you just hoping that I backread lol

Yup just click the "export tileset as" button (third one along)

[topaz zenith]

oke

[rotund elm]

I just know you always be watching jk I checked if you were online XD

Thank you ❤️ for the snappy reply

[rotund elm]

Yes please @ me if/when you post a teaser or release the mod

[vernal crest]

Goat stop pinging her

[rotund elm]

Oh my bad X|||

I am such a ditz I swear

[topaz zenith]

oke

[vernal crest]

Sorry for blunt am tryingf to eat melty ice cream

[rotund elm]

Sorry Susan!!!!

[topaz zenith]

wooo..

[rotund elm]

You're good thanks for pointing that out who knows how long before I would haverealized

[vernal crest]

one hand tyuping

[rotund elm]

THOSE ARE AMAZING

[vernal crest]

Had to eat quickly because I am overdue to start fasting before my ultrasound

[rotund elm]

I hope everything goes well!

[topaz zenith]

the other tool sets will be a cuter color palkette

[rotund elm]

I can't wait for this to be released I will be adding it to my modlist ASAP

[topaz zenith]

WOOO

[rotund elm]

These emojis crack me up lol

[topaz zenith]

I FINISHED THE TRASHCAN, PAN, FISHING ROD, ANDTHE HOE

[rotund elm]

GET ITTTTTT

[topaz zenith]

update: iridium watering can done!

update: axe done

THE IRIDIUM SETS DONEEE

[light bramble]

This is the content.json
And this is the objects.json
I am heading to work but in between customers I will check discord

[topaz zenith]

i finished retexturing the iridium

[rigid oriole]

Line 18/19 (and similar lines)? Your brackets around {{ModID}} aren't closed

[topaz zenith]

maaan..

i might just make only two sets

[pine ermine]

Is there a mod that tells you the best place to fish to maximize profit?

[hard fern]

are you asking because you want to make one? if not, ask #modded-stardew instead, they're the ones who actually play the game XD

[pine ermine]

If no one has done it, I will make sure it exists

[topaz zenith]

YES IM ALMOST DSONE THE GOLD TOOLS..'

i need to finish the pan and the hoe

[oblique meadow]

Hey now. I hang out there and I don’t really play the game as much anymore 😜

[hard fern]

it's because you're orange 😔

[topaz zenith]

what kind of mods count towards cheeto?

[hard fern]

you just gotta make a mod

there's 3 roles, pixelsmith, contentsmith, and blacksmith

for mods involving original artwork, original content, and original C# (?) respectively

[topaz zenith]

ah

im retexturing tools rn :D

[hard fern]

one of these days i'll get blacksmith

[topaz zenith]

hh...its so much easier coding wise for me to recolor all of them

does anybody have scripting to use retextures instead of vanilla

[gentle rose]

I’m only a blacksmith rn but I think thanks to boncher I technically qualify for contentsmith it feels like a bit of a pisstake though so I’ll wait

[hard fern]

???

what

[teal bridge]

Someone spent a lot of time in #programmers-off-topic working on and discussing an offline tool to do that, I'd try to find the exact post but Discord search is utter garbage. Try skimming back through the history a month or two (or three). Lots of challenges, mainly it's very difficult to do in polynomial time due to the game's bizarre use of randomness in fishing distributions.

Personally I don't see much value in it, since minmaxers don't play with a ton of content addons and the most profitable vanilla fishing strategies can be condensed down to a couple of paragraphs on a wiki page. But I guess if you really want some dynamic calculation that'll work for mods, then no, I don't think the "mod version" was ever done, only some python code to do it offline.

[topaz zenith]

i was sent one but im not sure what to edit\

[hard fern]

im not gonna scroll up all the way for that

[topaz zenith]

shrugs

[gentle rose]

I would start by reading the CP documentation and the Modding section of the wiki so you know how to do things yourself (especially since you want to make bigger mods in the future)

nothing good comes from blindly editing existing files

[blissful saddle]

if you are only replacing vanilla textures, you can just make a CP

[topaz zenith]

would this be right?

[gentle rose]

the documentation is very comprehensive and the wiki has lots of examples though so it should be plenty to go off of!

[topaz zenith]

oh yeah i got more of the npc references. (yippee!)

i can almost make her sprites

[gentle rose]

I wouldn’t replace all of tools.png if you’re only changing iridium, it will make your mod incompatible with other tool retextures

[vernal crest]

Yup that looks right for what you want to do. You will need a manifest.json as well.

[topaz zenith]

im retexturing all of them slowly LOL

rn i only have two sets which might(?) be trickier specificlaly

[blissful saddle]

so you are making a complete tool retexture overall

[hard fern]

two sets of what?

[topaz zenith]

tools

[topaz zenith]

if i stay motivated yeah

[blissful saddle]

two sets of retextured tools

[hard fern]

🤔? so like two different pngs

[topaz zenith]

i have two(?) more left to do

[latent mauve]

I'd also recommend that you use FromArea and ToArea to specifically target regions of the sheet (because you can choose to leave parts off, or add in config options to selectively change specific tools later)

[blissful saddle]

well. if you really intend to make a complete overall, yeah, your cp may work, with a manifest.json as well as mentioned above

[topaz zenith]

i have to do copper and iron(?)

[hard fern]

(if you want)

[vernal crest]

Right now we are just focusing on her getting any working mod before starting to make things more complex.

[latent mauve]

fair enough!

[topaz zenith]

nm i have three.

i have three sets to do.

[blissful saddle]

it will make the game simply ignore the original file and use yours instead. but be aware that if you have another mod that replace tools textures as well, they may go after yours too

[topaz zenith]

i dont think i use other retextures rn

i would be happy to finish the rest if i can think of a color palette to work with

[blissful saddle]

if you decide to release your mod and make it compatible with other mods that also change textures, going for more detailed editimage procedures may be needed

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editimage.md

[topaz zenith]

its not rlly gopnna be compatible

more of a "i did a test you can use it" type thing

[hard fern]

i mean i just go in with the Hue shifting and pick whatever looks good

[topaz zenith]

i am not gatekeeping smthng im not happy with LOL

[vernal crest]

Yeah I'd recommend not aiming to release this

It's just for helping you figure out how to understand CP

[topaz zenith]

if i do then woowie

[blissful saddle]

what we are trying to point you is that most of retexture mods that just do one or two sets of something use FromArea>ToArea and Replace Patch things to make them compatible to other mods that retexture another sets of other things on the same file. that's all

[topaz zenith]

i might release it purely for the sake of like seeing if it works for other people

[blissful saddle]

for now you can do like that as a personal mod

[topaz zenith]

if i open it in gimp

where would i have to specify

[blissful saddle]

if you open what on gimp? you don't specify it in the images you are uploading

you add fields on the content.json

[topaz zenith]

oh

how does one export stuff from notepad+

[blissful saddle]

if you refer to this link I share, it will even have an example at the end of a CP that changes only one sprite in a spritesheet

[drowsy pewter]

Aba's been helping a lot already and im pretty sure has got this

[vernal crest]

What do you need to export?

[topaz zenith]

the edits to the script

[vernal crest]

You don't need to export those, just save your file as "content.json" inside your mod folder (make a mod folder first)

[topaz zenith]

how does one do that

[vernal crest]

Which part? Make a mod folder? Go to your existing Mods folder and...make a folder. I don't know what OS you're using.

[topaz zenith]

ill zip it after :D

[vernal crest]

That has zero relevance right now

You are very far away from zipping being useful for you

[topaz zenith]

i am opening stardew to see if it worked

[vernal crest]

How can it have worked if you haven't made a mod folder yet? Have you made your manifest.json?

[topaz zenith]

..oh

[blissful saddle]

you need a structure, like a folder into your mods folder with your mod name and a content.json, a manifest.json and your .png inside it

[topaz zenith]

can i ask how to make a manifest

[crimson bison]

Hello, I'm looking to get crucified and hated quickly.
I used chatGPT to update the "build endurance" mod: asdadasd
not looking for credit of course, but, it does run, and seems to function fine, but like, how garbage is it?
Personal skill level is "hmm yes, I know some of these words"

ohgodthumbnails

[blissful saddle]

something like Mods>MyFirstMod> with all three inside MyFirstMod

[drowsy pewter]

You are not allowed to share links to mods with substantial AI generated content (as per one of the pinned messages)

[hard fern]

chat gpt is your first problem

[topaz zenith]

okay

[naive wyvern]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/stable/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide.md#readme

this might be helpful susan

[blissful saddle]

I am surprised it ran at all

[crimson bison]

thats fair, thank you and apologies there, imagine me being smart enough to read (sorry!)

I am too, I tweaked it a bit while giving it the SMAPI "how to make a mod" page and the 1.6 changed effects

[topaz zenith]

smapi load faster

[drowsy pewter]

Yeah its fine, just saving you from the "crucified quickly" part. The channel rules around AI-gen are in the pins somewhere if you want to review, but yeah people here dont like to help with chatgpt code at all

[crimson bison]

Well, i'll adjust my question.
It's creating a max stamina buff upon waking up, and removing it when sleeping -> updating calculations -> rinse and repeat.
Generic phrase of "we'd have to see" but is that known to cause issues trying to re-apply buffs daily?

[topaz zenith]

i think smthng deff happened cuz my game was running with 1 less mod before. yaay

[hard fern]

[topaz zenith]

Idk if it’s what I was wanting but atleast smthng happened!

[blissful saddle]

this may help as well: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Content_Patcher

[gentle rose]

if you don’t have a manifest, your mod won’t be loaded. If something new is loading, it’s not your mod.

[topaz zenith]

that’ll be a later Susan issue then. Mighta moved the wrong folder

[calm nebula]

That should be fine

[hard fern]

im still debating opening tiled again and making a map for my npc i dont need more maps!

[topaz zenith]

yeah i moved a random foldere

[gentle rose]

do it

[hard fern]

see, but i dont even need a map.

[blissful saddle]

if you make sure the buff is removed before being reapplied, I think it would be good

[gentle rose]

dooo itttt

[hard fern]

[blissful saddle]

I have a mod with a c# core and a CP, and now everytime I generate a new version, I have to change the version number in three places.

I know there is a way to make it so I just need to change it in one of them, but my dumb ass can't find directions...

[gentle rose]

is there a way where you only change one of them? I thought since they’re technically separate mods you have to change both

[calm nebula]

ModManifestBuilder

<PackageReference Include="Leclair.Stardew.ModManifestBuilder" Version="2.1.0" />

[gentle rose]

would that also do the CP mod?

[topaz zenith]

I made a manifest

[gentle rose]

so you have the mod folder all set up now?

[topaz zenith]

Yeah I might have been the content into a folder inside it tho so should I move it just into the main one

[blissful saddle]

yeap, that is the third place I need to update every time.

sorry for the ping

[calm nebula]

Weird

I use that package and update one location only

[gentle rose]

if your png isn’t inside your main folder, you may have to change your FromFile to match

[vernal crest]

Your mod folder should have a content.json and manifest.json in it. You can have your .png file in that same folder or you can make a subfolder called "assets" (just because that's the convention) and pop it in there. And then edit your FromFile like iro said.

[topaz zenith]

Should the file stay a png?

[blissful saddle]

wait, now I saw it... sorry...

So I can just add that into my project file and alter the version there? and use $version in all the other three?

[calm nebula]

https://github.com/atravita-mods/StardewMods/blob/34f5e2013f95aba2c980c9dcf6ef44f0f96654be/MoreFertilizers/MoreFertilizers/MoreFertilizers.csproj#L27

[calm nebula]

Basically!

[blissful saddle]

now I saw it was different I mean, because I have the CP include

[calm nebula]

It updates the version of both I think

[topaz zenith]

Confused sobs cuz I have a manifest and eveything I need so idk what’s up

[vernal crest]

!log If you share the link to your log we might be able to help you read the error message

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[topaz zenith]

I don’t think small even recognized it cuz it wasn’t there at all

Smapi *

[blissful saddle]

Ok, looking your mod I got it now and already installed the nuget. thanks a lot!

[topaz zenith]

Hmm

Lemme check again

[gentle rose]

can you send us your manifest, susan? and a screenshot of what’s in your mod folder

[topaz zenith]

I may have made a spelling error

[topaz zenith]

Yeah gimme a sec for smapi to load to see if the spelling was the issue

Ok smapi thank you for telling me the issue yesyes

(Proceeds to close smapi meaning I have to reopen it.)

HELP I HAVE TWO DECIDES OOEB ON DISCORD

[gentle rose]

you’re using a c# mod’s manifest rather than a cp manifest

the wiki’s modding section has an example manifest for content packs

[topaz zenith]

ty

!modding

.

[gentle rose]

I don’t think that’s a command. What are you trying to do?

[topaz zenith]

Trying to get the bot to give me the wiki again lol

[gentle rose]

[[Modding]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Index

[gentle rose]

but I think the general rule of thumb is if you’re pulling something up for your own use, it’s best if it goes in #governors-mansion with the other bot “spam”

[topaz zenith]

Smapi better listen this time lol

[blissful saddle]

the commands has changed seems like

[topaz zenith]

I was taking a peak at other mod manifests simmilar to see if maybe I did smthng wrong, and then his time it should be fine(?)

[gentle rose]

to pull up a wiki page, it’s always [[page name]] (aka, wiki link syntax)

I don’t think it works on pages inside the modding namespace though unfortunately

[frigid hollow]

[[Modding:Console_commands]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Console_commands

[gentle rose]

I stand corrected

[topaz zenith]

Hmm

[frigid hollow]

anything after the slash will count and will function if typed correctly so you can even link to specific sections

[vernal crest]

I can never remember the URLS exactly enough to get them through the farm computer

[topaz zenith]

Smapi be telling all the wisdom

its literally telling me the issue and i fixy it lol

[blissful saddle]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Manifest

[topaz zenith]

fingers crossed

[blissful saddle]

the fact that took me several minutes to find this manifest page is somewhat concerning

[vernal crest]

Some of the pages are really hard to find, I think

[blissful saddle]

couldn't find any other reference to manifests anywhere else also

[blissful saddle]

in SMAPI we trust

[vernal crest]

CP has a section for CP manifests

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide.md#create-the-content-pack

[blissful saddle]

[[Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Manifest]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Manifest

[tough crater]

Somehow my map patching broke for my main NPC? I'm sifting through the code right now and I think I know what's going on, but it's most likely gonna take a while 😅

[blissful saddle]

it basically takes the string inside [[]] and paste it in the end of https://stardewvalleywiki.com/

[blissful saddle]

I couldn't easily find it either. no reference in the author guide or the 'for modders' in the home CP wiki page

[topaz zenith]

uhh

my error this time is rlly long

[hard fern]

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[blissful saddle]

it is there, but damn...

[vernal crest]

But it's on the author guide page!

[topaz zenith]

idk if the entire log is nessasary for jsut this one issue

[drowsy pewter]

It is.

[vernal crest]

It is

[hard fern]

it is x3

[brittle ledge]

@royal stump hi Esca, related to you mentioning FTM can spawn bigcraftables, how exactly is that done? Based on your docs I'm thinking that it's a forage spawn with the Area restricted to the specific tile coordinate for the place I want it to spawn, and that DaysTilSpawnExpire should be set to zero. I'm not sure if I should also have MinimumSpawnsPerDay set to 1 so that it's there after the mod is installed/farmer sleeps, or if that would spawn a new one on top of it every day. Is the general spawn settings and item settings all I need or do I need to dig into the forage-specific stuff or the timing (if I want it to be permanent)?

[topaz zenith]

i closed smapi but i have the text file\

[blissful saddle]

yeap. what I meant is no easy reference if you are scrolling through it instead of reading it

[hard fern]

a log is always important unless you know exactly what the issue is and how to fix it

[gentle rose]

there’s an example on the wiki too iirc

[blissful saddle]

I passed through it all the times I scrolled it while looking

[topaz zenith]

??

[blissful saddle]

maybe it is just a my end issue

[vernal crest]

Ah I see. Yeah there's definitely no direct reference to a manifest in the contents table

[hard fern]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[vernal crest]

Yes that was the one MaxRW shared and then I shared the CP docs one lol

[hard fern]

i can barely even read that screenshot btw

[topaz zenith]

Neither can i thats why i highlighted it

[gentle rose]

I meant a CP-specific one! I’ll find it in a bit

[vernal crest]

It means your manifest is written wrong

[hallow prism]

my experience is that, each time i'm like "oh, this experienced modder didn't provide full log but surely it'll be fine" the log had the answer and we wasted time

[vernal crest]

Oh I thought that was what MaxRW shared lol. I didn't actually open the page xD

[topaz zenith]

{
"Name": "GodPristines tools",
"Author": "GodPristine",
"Version": "1.0.0",
"Description": "Retextures for gold and iridium tools",
"UniqueID": "GodPristine.tools",
"UpdateKeys": [ "N/A" ],
"ContentPackFor": {
"UniqueID": "Pathoschild.ContentPatcher",
}

[gentle rose]

I think that page is for c# manifests? I haven’t looked at it in a bit though

[topaz zenith]

oh

[blissful saddle]

yeap´, missed a }

[topaz zenith]

where is the missing }

at the end?

[blissful saddle]

{
   "Name": "GodPristines tools",
   "Author": "GodPristine",
   "Version": "1.0.0",
   "Description": "Retextures for gold and iridium tools",
   "UniqueID": "GodPristine.tools",
   "UpdateKeys": [ "N/A" ],
   "ContentPackFor": {
    "UniqueID": "Pathoschild.ContentPatcher",
    }
  }

[topaz zenith]

OH

[hard fern]

at the end, this is why you use a validator or a text editor that will yell at you

[blissful saddle]

you opened it but didn't closed it

[vernal crest]

Looks like it has both

[gentle rose]

yup. If you used the json parser that was linked above, it would have told you this btw

[topaz zenith]

im using notepad+ rn

[blissful saddle]

also try to use this to share your jsons from now on

[topaz zenith]

okay

[blissful saddle]

parsing it would usually solve it to you, and if you don't understand, you can share the link so we can have a better view of it

specially useful when debugging long content.jsons

[gentle rose]

I’d also make the mod ID something more specific than “tools” just in case you want to make other tool mods in the future, but that’s just personal preference

[hard fern]

XD im the type to keysmash in a temp manifest

[topaz zenith]

ill probably edit it in the future if i do smthng else w/ tools

[gentle rose]

just remember that if you release it, it needs to stay the same from that point on

[topaz zenith]

unsupported 2.5 format?

[blissful saddle]

one can always name them "tools2" and onwards, right??

[gentle rose]

me with all my temp manifests being “me.test” or something lmao

[hard fern]

what version of CP are we on

[frigid hollow]

uhh, 2.5.0 i think right now?

[gentle rose]

have you updated to cp 2.5 yesterday susan?

[lament shell]

3 am manifests I just start calling my ids smumberood.fhjfjsjfs

[topaz zenith]

there was an update?

[hard fern]

yes

[topaz zenith]

oh.

that might be why.

[frigid hollow]

yeah, new major feature too

[hard fern]

2.5.0 in your format will bork unless you're using the latest version of CP

[blissful saddle]

you can also use the 2.4.0 in your content.json too

and update it later

[vernal crest]

Poop that means I'm behind too

[lucid mulch]

You should only bump the cp format version if you want the new functionality

[hard fern]

hey ive been using 2.4.0 for everything XD

[gentle rose]

I disagree, I think using the most recent format available is usually a good thing to do

[blissful saddle]

yeap, I just realized it too

I also need to update 16 mods already since my christmas break

[gentle rose]

unless there’s a reason not to

[topaz zenith]

i upgraded it just now

[blissful saddle]

it is. no one sane would disagree

[gentle rose]

not that it matters in this case either way, but theoretically speaking

[blissful saddle]

it is just a lazy solution for now

[gentle rose]

I meant to reply to sinz lol, sorry

[round dock]

still using 2.4.0 gah (for my format)

[topaz zenith]

:0

[vernal crest]

That came...extremely close to looking like you're saying SinZ isn't sane which I'm sure you didn't intend

[frigid hollow]

i don't think it's even been 24 hours since it updated so it's not like you're falling behind

[gentle rose]

2.5.0 is like a day old so I think it’s fine to be a bit behind rn

[lucid mulch]

It shouldn't be done blindly, and only after reading the changelogs as there can be breaking changes you are opting into

[frigid hollow]

what was that one mysterious version that is still somehow getting packs

1.23

[gentle rose]

again, that only really applies to existing mods being upgraded, this is a new mod we’re talking about

[frigid hollow]

last month someone made a content patcher mod for format 1.23. somehow

[gentle rose]

and with brand new mods, when it comes to cp, it’s best to use the most recent version

[lucid mulch]

For brand new mods sure

[blissful saddle]

both are kinda right, and irocendar take doesn't goes totally against SinZ take because the use of usually

[hard fern]

i think that 1.23 is because people ask chat gpt and chat gpt has no idea what version we're on

[gentle rose]

we tracked it down to some tutorials! I edited one from the modding wiki, but there are a few on some blogs that have stayed that way

[frigid hollow]

oh nice

[gentle rose]

I think lemurkat has an old tutorial on their blog with 1.23 in it

[hard fern]

or at least, ive seen it do that. maybe it's because of the old tutorials?

[gentle rose]

for me, chatgpt spat out something more recent than 1.23, but I think we found it switched between a couple versions

[blissful saddle]

if anyone would generally disagree that using the most recent format available is usually a good thing to do, I would be inclined to doubt the sanity of who said it though

[topaz zenith]

the joy of fixing content patcher files by deleting the old one

[lucid mulch]

Using the most recent format, and just changing the version number aren't the same

[frigid hollow]

what CP version does miss coriel's npc creator use

[blissful saddle]

I mean, you technically can do it with dll's too...

[lucid mulch]

The amount of issues I've seen over the years from people having an ancient content pack that barely still works and then they set it on fire by bumping the version without understanding.
And it's usually end users breaking it rather than the mod author

That or users wanting their mods to work again by messing around in the manifest.json

[gentle rose]

atp I just beg people not to use npc creators tbh

[blissful saddle]

well, sometimes this tinkerings works

[hard fern]

honestly there are some ancient content packs that im sure i could just. rewrite

but who has time for that...

and yeah, i see lot of mod users try and use a hammer on mods thinking "so i just need to update the number" without knowing what anything means

[blissful saddle]

most problems with rewriting ancient CPs is that we don't have permission to upload the updated version with the original assets

[hard fern]

i was just thinking for my own sake

[blissful saddle]

I usually rewrite ancient CPs that I want to use for my own personal use though

[topaz zenith]

I CAN SENSE VICTORY RAPIDLY APPROACHING >:D

[blissful saddle]

or tinker with mods assets to make my own personal CPs

[hard fern]

i had like. a pasted together content pack which was just meant to be converted xnb mods but the json is so scrambled i hate looking at it, yet it works

[blissful saddle]

<antecipation bongo cat gif here> "tan-tan-tan-tan..."

[vernal crest]

[topaz zenith]

were getting close :D

[blissful saddle]

we are all rooting for you, Susan

[topaz zenith]

if it works ill do oc specific personal toolsets for myself

[blissful saddle]

if it doesn't, we will keep tinkering with it until it do

you got too far to give up now

[topaz zenith]

is it capital sensitive for image files?

[blissful saddle]

yet on doing personal CPs, I will yet tinker with Seasonal Rasmodia for SVE to make a vanilla version for me just because

unless I migrate to SVE before I have the time

[hard fern]

your image files needs to match whatever it is in the json

and vice versa

[topaz zenith]

which it does so im troubleshooting that myself

[gentle rose]

capitals included

[topaz zenith]

it does count it as a mod tho so theres that!

smapi please 🙏

dont do this to me smapi D:

oh my gopd

OH MTY GOD

IOT WORKS

IT WORKED

[hard fern]

nice

995 slingshots XD

or are those thre stones

[blissful saddle]

🎆

[topaz zenith]

IT WORKED IT WORKED

[blissful saddle]

those are the amount of stones

or ammo

[hard fern]

ah, i dont use slingshots, ever XD

[topaz zenith]

im gonna keep working on the scyth

uhh

where is the scyth in the tool sprite sheet

[warm imp]

scythe is in weapons

[gentle rose]

there’s a chance it’s in a different sprite sheet

[hard fern]

weapons

[topaz zenith]

ill leave the scythe alone then

i promised soembody id let them use the tools

[blissful saddle]

prometheus and Forsy are right, they are in weapons

[topaz zenith]

imma just put it on nexus so they can use it

[warm imp]

how exactly do you rearrange the crafting recipes? Moveentries action just tells me that data/craftingrecipes isn't an ordered list, but, as far as i can tell, the order in there is how the crafting menu orders them

[hard fern]

why are you looking to rearrange them? 🤔

[warm imp]

adding a new one and i want it next to existing similar machines

specifically: a machine that creates a tackle each day, same way the worm bins work, and i'd like it next to the worm bin recipes

[gentle rose]

remember that once it’s on nexus, you need the mod ID to stay the same, so if you want to change it, do it now

[topaz zenith]

Yep! :D

its on there

YES IT IS NEXUS

[hard fern]

no it's not XD

nexus takes a while

and sometimes can be weird with showing "not available" when it is

[drowsy pewter]

do you have your code? I havent tried to move crafting entries before

[calm nebula]

You don't