making-mods-general

[topaz zenith]

So she’d show up like maybe a bit into spring 1?

Spring or summer for year one

Or whenever the files set to

[rigid musk]

Fall NPC B)

[topaz zenith]

Makes sense tho

Since she’d want to move before her homelands winter starts

[somber walrus]

@rigid musk thanks lily. I got to find my old files though XD

[topaz zenith]

“Oh winters coming? Ok baibai”

[mortal stag]

@wanton pebble I am doing the TargetField update to Winter Star Gifts now. I have multiple entries that are the same gift. will the following duplication of ID be an issue?

    "Action": "EditData",
    "Target": "Data/Characters",
    "TargetField": [ "Caroline", "WinterStarGifts" ],
    "Entries": {
                "bennoloth.BWSG_TeaSet": {
                      {
                        "Id": "bennoloth.BWSG_TeaSet",
                        "ItemId": "(O)341",
                        "MinStack": 1,
                        "MaxStack": 1
                      },
                 },
                }
    },

{
    "Action": "EditData",
    "Target": "Data/Characters",
    "TargetField": [ "Pierre", "WinterStarGifts" ],
    "Entries": {
                "bennoloth.BWSG_TeaSet": {
                      {
                        "Id": "bennoloth.BWSG_TeaSet",
                        "ItemId": "(O)341",
                        "MinStack": 1,
                        "MaxStack": 1
                      },
                 },
                }
    },

[wanton pebble]

Nope!

[mortal stag]

cool thanks

[topaz zenith]

I swear my idea makes sense in my head lol

[wanton pebble]

As long as it's not the same in the same character's list you gucci

So the above is perfect

[somber walrus]

ah crap. do I need to update because of the new 1.6 updates in stardew valley?

[wanton pebble]

I mean.

[topaz zenith]

Like if you don’t wanna see relationship growth my main Npc mod would have covered that

[wanton pebble]

1.6 has been out for 10 months ish

[topaz zenith]

But if you do it’s a seperate mod

[wanton pebble]

So I would recommend it

[vernal crest]

Unless you don't want anybody with an updated game to play it, yes

[topaz zenith]

Or maybe I’ll make the main mod but release the pre marriage stuff as a written story somewhere

[velvet prawn]

Would you like me to make you a thread so you can post your ideas without swarming chat?

[topaz zenith]

Thank you :D

[velvet prawn]

also apologies for the ping

Susan's Thread

[round dock]

RIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT ❤️

(i hope ur doing well <3)

[velvet prawn]

I am thank you ^_^

[somber walrus]

@vernal crest ahhh then I don't need to update the mod. to be honest I am not making it for people to play sad to say. I am doing it to activate the heart event for my npc character and record it.

[velvet prawn]

Working on another wiki!

[vernal crest]

For some kind of streaming thing? Also by "activate" do you mean the heart event is already written and you just can't figure out how to make it play?

[somber walrus]

@vernal crest yes that's basically it

[vernal crest]

Well there is a console command that just lets you play any event you want, so you wouldn't have to figure out how to make it play.

[somber walrus]

that's how far I got before I gave up 2 years ago

[somber walrus]

I think I did that. the problem is that I am sure I did something wrong. should I get my old codes and paste them here?

[vernal crest]

Sure, we can have a look

[somber walrus]

thanks!

[topaz zenith]

Me when in my thread I can actually just yap about ideas

[somber walrus]

oh dear it's going to take some time to find it I can't remember what I saved it as XD

[topaz zenith]

I like sharing my notes app ideas there hehe

[light bramble]

trying to figure out is these edibility numbers make sense.
When the player has the config for "Cheese Amount" at 3, 4, or 5 the edibility of Cheese is 45. At 6 or 7 it's 40 and at 8 it's 35.
For when the player has "Goat Cheese Amount" at 3, goat cheese edibility is at 45. For 4 and 5 it's 40.
"Cheese Amount" and "Goat Cheese Amount" refers to the amount of cheese a player will get when splitting (crafting) a large cheese into smaller ones. I'm trying to make it so that the healing factor is scaled evenly with how much cheese you can get from the larger variant.

[somber walrus]

phew I found the code

i'll send it over

[rigid musk]

Im gonna be real this entirely lost me

i was trying to make sense of it and i... could not

[topaz zenith]

Chat I wrote some family dynamics

[somber walrus]

Ok heres the old code time to make changes XD

f Eniitime 1500/p Eniitime": "none/none/-1000 -1000/farmer 100 100 0/warp Eniitime 3 9/playMusic ButtercupMelody/speak Eniitime "Hi everyone@! Thank you so much for raiding.$h"/ speak Eniitime "I will now do a dance@! I hope you enjoy it@!"/stopMusic/pause 600/move Eniitime 0 -1 0/faceDirection Eniitime 0/pause 500/playMusic EmilyDance/pause 1240/faceDirection Eniitime 2/pause 3220/specificTemporarySprite EmilyBoomBoxStart /animate Eniitime false false 430 0 27/pause 6500/animate Eniitime false false 440 31 39/pause 6470/doAction 14 4/pause 400/specificTemporarySprite EmilySongBackLights /animate Eniitime false false 220 18 19 18 19 18 19 18 19 18 19 18 19 18 19 18 19 21 20 21 20 21 20 21 20 21 20 21 20 21 20 21 20 21 16 17 16 17 16 17 16 17 16 17 16 17 16 17 16 17 22 23 22 23 22 23 22 23 22 23 22 23 22 23 22 23/pause 1760/glow 255 0 255/pause 1760/glow 255 255 0/pause 1760/glow 0 255 255/pause 1760/glow 0 255 0/pause 1760/glow 255 0 0/pause 1760/glow 0 0 255/pause 1760/glow 255 0 255/pause 1760/glow 255 255 0/pause 1760/glow 0 255 255/pause 1760/glow 0 255 0/pause 1760/glow 255 0 0/pause 1760/glow 0 0 255/pause 1260/animate Eniitime false false 440 31 39/pause 1760/glow 255 255 0/pause 1760/glow 255 0 255/pause 1760/glow 255 0 255/pause 1760/glow 255 0 0/pause 1760/glow 0 0 255/pause 1760/glow 0 255 0/pause 1760/glow 255 0 255/pause 1760/glow 255 0 255/stopAnimation Eniitime 0/specificTemporarySprite EmilyBoomBoxStop /faceDirection Eniitime 2/pause 1000/animate Eniitime false false 300 50 51/pause 1600/speak Eniitime/speak Eniitime"Wow...gasp what a work out@!#$b#I hope that wasnt too embarassing? I wanted to express my gratitude to you guys@!#$b#Well thanks for watching and I will see you again some other time bye@!"/end warpOut"

[rigid musk]

ouh

[latent mauve]

!json

[somber walrus]

sorry for the large message @.@

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[rigid musk]

can you uhh put that in - yeah

[latent mauve]

You can drop it in there for a bit more readability

[somber walrus]

sorry :/

[rigid musk]

no you're fine! it just makes it easier to read that way xD

[latent mauve]

Also sometimes Discord markdown changes the text, so it's safer to either put it in a code block or just link to it once it's in the validator

[somber walrus]

let me put it in notepadd I have that software

[latent mauve]

just go to smapi.io/json

and copy paste it in

or drag the file over

[somber walrus]

ohhhh ok!

thanks. sorry I feel bad if I do something wrong XD

[latent mauve]

it'll save it in the editor and give you a green box with a link that you can post here so we can look it over. 🙂

Right now it looks like your event id may have gotten cut off by Discord

[somber walrus]

Ah actully its my fault on that

[topaz zenith]

Me deciding more story stuff for family relationships

[somber walrus]

i'm afraid to repost it might not show up properly

[rigid musk]

put it in the json thing- the validator

[somber walrus]

I did do that

should I do something about the format thats on there lily?

[rigid musk]

oh if you posted it and then saved and validated it just send the the link!

[somber walrus]

the link of the website?

[latent mauve]

when you hit save & validate file, it'll reload the page with a little box at the top

[rigid musk]

like this

[somber walrus]

https://smapi.io/json/none/647dc5116b874fd68a55d16296526ddb

like that?

[mortal stag]

updated @wanton pebble

[latent mauve]

Yep, did it perfectly right

[somber walrus]

I wasnt sure how to properly show the code as its like a line. I need to update that XD

[rigid musk]

no thats okay the json validator just does that

[somber walrus]

ah ok! so thats the old code there.

[rigid musk]

the first thing i noticed is the location of the event

like where you're loading the data for the event "Target": "Data/Events/Eniitime Dance Event",

[somber walrus]

the plan was to have it in the the farmers house location as my own. but that wasnt done properly

[rigid musk]

that should be Data/Events/Location

[somber walrus]

ah

[rigid musk]

"Data/Events/SkullCave", like this

[somber walrus]

oh wow....now it makes sense. I should have come back to you guys XD

Like sooner

[latent mauve]

Yep, and Location is gonna whatever you have defined in Data/Locations as your map's area.

[somber walrus]

ah.. I cant remember where that was again?

[latent mauve]

Look for an "Action": "EditData" entry targeting "Data/Locations" if you have one.

Otherwise, you might be using the old CustomLocations method, which should probably be updated to 1.6

[rigid musk]

in your case it would probably be Data/Events/Farm if you wanted it on your farm

[latent mauve]

^

[vernal crest]

They don't want to update the mod, they just want to fix it enough to be able to play it once

[somber walrus]

yeah thats the thing I am using the old one. so I have to update to 1.6 would that be easier?

I'm willing to update if it makes things easier

[latent mauve]

If you don't want the event to trigger on a custom location, then you're fine to not worry about it.

[somber walrus]

ohhhh

[latent mauve]

So if you want to trigger it on the Farm, you would follow what Lily said for the event target

[somber walrus]

true

oh now I remember!

[rigid musk]

im not sure about what 1.5's format for events was since i just started doing it now

[somber walrus]

lily what you said thats before the code of the event right? I see it on top

[latent mauve]

"Target": "Data/Events/Eniitime Dance Event", this line

[somber walrus]

Ok 🙂

[latent mauve]

you'd need to change that one to what Lily said for the Farm (so "Target": "Data/Events/Farm",

[somber walrus]

thanks guys your really encourging me 😄

[somber walrus]

I will dont worry! 🙂

[rigid musk]

so with your event code as it looks like the NPC needs to be present on the farm with 6 hearts, with an event precondition (i dont know what event id that is but they had to see a different event to get this one)

[mortal stag]

but I just had a minor worry @wanton pebble , the way it is now, are the basegame gifts still going to be in the pool in my mod?

[somber walrus]

I did have an event Id I'm probally not going to remember what it was

[rigid musk]

AKA to trigger that event the NPC has to be on your farm, you need to have 6 hearts with them, and you need to have previously seen whatever event ID 6345689 is

[somber walrus]

hmmm

I cant trigger it on 1 heart it has to be 6? @rigid musk

[rigid musk]

you can change the requirements

[somber walrus]

I dont want to wait for too long on that XD

[rigid musk]

if you wanted it to have a friendship requirement of one heart you would have it be f Eniitime 250 where 250 is one heart

[somber walrus]

Ohhh now I remember! yes I remember now! lily I was trying to get the parrot that Emily had as well for the event as she had one. that was what I was stuck on the most with.

because I couldnt figure that out

[tiny zealot]

event preconditions and how they work: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Event_data#Event_preconditions

[somber walrus]

ok thanks 🙂

[rough valve]

I finally found the meat item ids. They are three digits like vanilla ones.

[velvet prawn]

I'd really recommend your thread Susan ^_^

that'

[topaz zenith]

Does anybody have suggestions to add to the family dynamics for my Clint wife npc

[velvet prawn]

s what it's there for

[rigid musk]

like you were trying to use the sprites of the parrot?

[topaz zenith]

I’m lookin for feedback which ain’t rlly doable jn The thread lol

[somber walrus]

yes I was

[rigid musk]

Ohhh 🤔 I see well you can try to use the event block from that specific event that emily has as reference actually

[velvet prawn]

Okay just to note that the storyboard process of it is kind of up to you. You are the one making the mod.

If you needed say assistance with "how do I trigger this heart event" or maybe "how to word this sentence" better I can see where you'd be okay with feedback in here

But you're sort of asking the chat to write your mod for you

[topaz zenith]

I’m asking for feedback on witting and stuff since I’m trying to make to cater to more people than just me lol

[somber walrus]

thats a good idea! I'm trying to find the beginning of the json code that you would use for heart events. since I didnt use mine properly at the beginning.

[velvet prawn]

That probably won't be super helpful in here. Modding is so fluid and VAST. Everyone has their own tastes.

You're much better off writing for yourself and what you like

[topaz zenith]

mkay

[rigid musk]

463391 is the event ID for that specific event - you can find it in Data/Events/Town

[somber walrus]

nevermind I forgot I had it saved XD

[rigid musk]

If you want more feedback as to what people would like in relation to it you should ask in #modded-stardew since thats more along the lines of people who play the mods rather than the making of the mod

[topaz zenith]

I was sent back here LOL

[somber walrus]

Thanks1

[rigid musk]

really?

[topaz zenith]

yeah I got suggested to ask here LOL

[astral prism]

yoooo happy new year guys

[rigid musk]

Huh that's odd ...

[tiny zealot]

write your mod for yourself. some others are bound to like it, but even if they don't, at least you have something you enjoy

[rigid musk]

Also Happy new year Harvz! :D

[drowsy pewter]

(I think that's just a sign that asking others for creative direction doesn't really have a place to go)

[tiny zealot]

also, there's a creative writing thread so you could ask in there if you need writing help specifically

[rigid musk]

true there is that

[somber walrus]

I was going to go to that channel at first and I was like I dont think thats the correct channel and I came here. poor susan

[astral prism]

real, i listen to the community so much for my mods that i begin to not enjoy working on stuff - do it for YOU !

[blissful panther]

A thread here couldn't hurt for more general creative direction brainstorming...

[rigid musk]

I would have thought that asking in the modded farmers place would make sense since it's not asking for coding help but just ideas

[topaz zenith]

Yeah I have a thread but

[velvet prawn]

It happens to a lot of modders!
I know Flour mentioned the same things

[rigid musk]

also they do have a thread they just dont want to use it because discussion stuff and what not

[velvet prawn]

Write for yourself is ALWAYS better in my opinion ^_^

[topaz zenith]

It’s not really great for if I want feedback about the brainstorming LOL

[velvet prawn]

Then even if it's not hot modding etc etc YOU will enjoy it

[topaz zenith]

I don’t wanna write a Mary sue lol

[velvet prawn]

It also helps you stay motivated if you enjoy what you're working on!

[rigid musk]

I take feedback and suggestions from people (and have asked questions for what people might like for inspiration) but ill be damned if im going to let anyone tell me how to make my story because itll just not be fun if I do that

cause then im just doing what they want and not what i want ... and i aint even getting anything out ofi t

[astral prism]

also i have arrived with a C# query 🤔 i want to make a TemporaryAnimatedSprite with a custom texture but the TAS constructor asks for a vanilla texture path. does this mean i'll either have to CP load it in or load it in using some weird SMAPI asset stuff? (i've never really done asset loading outside of CP)

[velvet prawn]

Well and there's a difference between feedback and the full story

[rigid musk]

That's also true

[topaz zenith]

I was gonna write the story myself I just like feedback lol

[rigid musk]

Honestly don't worry about it too much! Really!

If you like the story you wrote and it makes YOU happy that's what matters

[topaz zenith]

Like a “does this make sense with game pre established lore” or a “is this out of character for x npc”

[rigid musk]

People will have negative feedback or something to say regardless of what you do

[somber walrus]

ah lily should I put the event id in the e numbered area before the code or the f numbered code?

[rigid musk]

I can plan for every case instance I want for people to like and use my Mr.Qi mod but there are bound to be people who don't like how I characterize him even if I personally think it fits with the lore of the game as well as I could possibly make it. I can try to perfect it and ask for feedback as many times as I want and I still won't have everyone be satisfied

what matters is that I'm satisfied

[rigid musk]

Do you mean to use emily's event as a precondition?

[tiny zealot]

yeah, looks like the string textureName constructor is expecting an asset path, so if it's custom you'll have to load it in.
you can use CP or C# for that (either one will work just fine); if you already have a CP component and that's easier for you then just do that, i'd say. but the C# to load in a texture is not difficult at all

[somber walrus]

um I'm not sure maybe I am confusing myself. but where should I put the event id then?

[astral prism]

hm, i've never done that kind of SMAPI asset loading (in my like, 3 years modding the game. wtf.), do you know what the link on the modding wiki might be?

[tiny zealot]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Content

[rigid musk]

Okay so - what event are you talking about ? Are you talking about YOUR event ID or are you talking about the one where emily has the parrot

[vernal crest]

Just a reminder that if your goal is just to get the event working once without caring how it starts, you don't need to be doing these precondition changes!

[rigid musk]

^ thats true as well

[somber walrus]

My event for my custom NPC character

[rigid musk]

OH you mean YOUR event id

[somber walrus]

ah ok!

[somber walrus]

yes XD

[topaz zenith]

I’m writing dialogue alongside doing a medical course rn which I can’t tell if that’s bad multitasking or not

[rigid musk]

"5632678/e 6345689/f Eniitime 1500/p Eniitime"

in this your event id is 5632678

[tiny zealot]

see link above. you may need to do some synthesis, but what you want is to use AssetRequested and check for the asset path you want to use. then call LoadFromModFile<Texture2D>. then just use the same asset path in your TemporaryAnimatedSprite constructor call

[somber walrus]

Your very brave susan XD

[rigid musk]

event IDs are the first part of the event code so they go first

[light bramble]

lol let me explain it, edibility determines how much energy and health is regened when eating. for energy you multiply the number by 2.5 and for health you multiply by 1.125 and round. numbers between -299 and -1 will reduce health and energy while 1 and above will raise it. Cheese in vanilla gameplay gives 125 energy and 56 health. I want to scale that based on how much cheese a player chooses (from my config) to get from each large cheese. dividing 50 by the number makes the energy fall too quickly so I want something that's nice, but also not OP

[topaz zenith]

If I ever need to use this info all I’ll think of is my dialogue writing but I NEED the course done asap 😭

[astral prism]

ty!!

[vernal crest]

Try this. Open the game, load into a save, then copy this into your SMAPI window and hit enter: debug ebi 5632678

[latent mauve]

To add on to this, the NPC will never be "on the Farm" as a valid location, because NPCs are blacklisted from walking into the farm map (not to be confused with the Farmhouse), so if they want an event to happen on the farm, they will need to remove that precondition

[rigid musk]

"Aos.QiFriend4Hearts/w sunny/f TheMrQi 1000/t 900 2000"

for example in this, my event ID is Aos.QiFriend4Hearts

[rigid musk]

also yeah^^ i was thinking the same thing earlier lol

[vernal crest]

You should get a message saying [Console Commands] Sent debug command to the game, but there was no output. but if you alt-tab back to the game, your event should play.

[rigid musk]

^

[somber walrus]

Ohhhh ok then!

[latent mauve]

I think spouse patio days might be the only exception there (if that even counts)

[vernal crest]

At this point all this information might not be helpful for Eniitime given they are just trying to get their event to play once and they don't actually need preconditions (if I have understood them correctly).

[rigid musk]

I get the edibility thing, I'm just confused on ... the rest of what you're trying to do lol

[somber walrus]

the more you know XD

[light bramble]

what about when leah give the player the statue? or gus comes to the plaers house

[tiny zealot]

blocking NPCs from the Farm map doesn't prevent events (although that map is cursed for other reasons), it just prevents NPCVisibleHere (p) unless that NPC is your spouse and in one of the valid outdoor locations

[rigid musk]

^

[rigid musk]

this is also true

[somber walrus]

you guys are amazing. and because I have a disbality you breaking this down for me I am starting to understand parts I got wrong 🙂

[light bramble]

Oh, I'm just trying to scale down the edibility in a way that make sense and won't be too OP.

[rigid musk]

I wasnt sure if they wanted preconditions or not since they mentioned wanting it to be a one heart toggle and what not

[latent mauve]

Ichor, they had "p NPC" in their precondition, is that still applicable in that case? Just for my own knowledge

[light bramble]

everyone here is always so kind I can't tell you how many times I have to ask questions because my own disabillity makes me misunderstand the wikis

[rigid musk]

Ohhhh okay, I mean for the most part you could just futz with the numbers until something happens that makes you feel satisfied when you switch to the configurable options

doing all of the math out preemptively might end up in a headache xD

[light bramble]

Yeah I'm kinda doing that, I just wanted to know if my numbers looked good XD

I'm calcuating for each number anyways XD

[vernal crest]

That is completely fair! Normally I wouldn't say anything to the contrary about good, useful information but when they said they just want to play it once and record it rather than fixing the mod I thought it might be easier to focus on just using debug ebi.

[light bramble]

bc I'm crazy like that

[rigid musk]

I mean now that I know what this means XD yeah this seems pretty good for a breakdown

[somber walrus]

awww I'm happy for you!

[light bramble]

wooot, this will also go with my therory that goat cheese is more filling because...well...experience and I have a friend who swears that irl they feel better after eating goat cheese

XD

welp back to coding :3

[rigid musk]

I wish I could multitask like this - i have my dialogue code open right now to keep editing it but i cant do that and talk at the same time xD

[light bramble]

Not me looking into the license for sublime text seeing as I use it primarily for coding It's $99 USD....wow

[topaz zenith]

I’m learning how to do chest compressions while writing lore 😭

[tender bloom]

The free trial is good forever, it just bugs you

[topaz zenith]

I’ll learn in person too so

[rigid musk]

I just use Notepadd++ ...

[light bramble]

Oh I know, I just wanted to support them because I use it almost exculsively for json coding...

[topaz zenith]

Writing clints wife lore while learning to save lives

[rigid musk]

I technically have VSC or whatever but ...mmmmmmmmmmmNotepadd++ ...

[light bramble]

I used to use Notepad++ but the white is too white and I could not figure out how to get a dark mode

and I also have more experience with sublime because college XD

[vernal crest]

N++ dark mode can be obtained through the Style Configurator

[chrome mountain]

can someone help me with a CP & SpaceCore mod? I got a user with this error
Log: https://smapi.io/log/b6f753b386174a55a912082604b774c0
Content.json: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/a33149fa16994cee8f03a661292d2573
TLDR: An item with the same key has already been added. Key: {X:32 Y:256 Width:16 Height:16}

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 78 C# mods and 123 content packs.

[chrome mountain]

I don't have more than one entry with that key, the only one I can see is the one on line 1583

[topaz zenith]

I gave up on my medical course so I’ll focus on writing more

hehehe

[rigid musk]

this is what mine looks like B)

Aesthetic

[light bramble]

I mean I'll try it out again, I'm just kinda in love with submlime....

[rigid musk]

no if you like it thats fine

[somber walrus]

ok so in json code I changed the target to data/events/farm. do I need to do anything with actions area? since I saw I might need to put in data/location

[vernal crest]

I don't see any reason to switch to N++ if you like sublime

[hard fern]

I use vsc light mode lol

[rigid musk]

It depends - do you want to just one off play this event?

[analog flower]

its been a hot minute since i debugged anything that wasnt my mod, but the trace part mentions 6480's iridium recolor mod right before the error. maybe the user has both your changes and 6480's enabled at the same time?

both mods use spacecore as well, which would make sense for the error its throwing

[vernal crest]

I use N++, sublime, and VSC (all in dark mode because I don't hate my brain)

[somber walrus]

@vernal crest I might not record it properly. What does event repeater do again?

[vernal crest]

You don't need event repeater, you can just use the debug ebi command as many times as you want to.

[somber walrus]

ah sorry I didn't explain I want the heart event inside the farm house not outside XD

[finite meadow]

Hello sweet moddin' people, I got a tricky question, at least for myself, through tiled features, is it posible to add warp points from a custom farm map, to different coordinates within the same map?
for instance, we have from farm to bus stop as: 48 41 BusStop 10 22 for instance.

[somber walrus]

ah okay then

[vernal crest]

Your event will probably not work well inside the farmhouse, but you can try just changing the target to farmhouse instead of farm

[light bramble]

might be stupid ask, but if I have a files that legit just makes recipes with CP I can use "When" with it right? And say I wanted to do an "Include" but only when a condition is met, would that be allowed?

[chrome mountain]

oh that would explain why I couldn't replicate it, thank you!

[somber walrus]

weird... someone I knew did it unless I am wrong? maybe I should send a YouTube link or show a picture.

[vernal crest]

Yup it is and it's probably just by listing the farm location instead of another location but I am not completely sure.

[vernal crest]

It will run, but you might have the characters walk into furniture or walls or things. Just test it and you will see if it works well enough or not.

[somber walrus]

@vernal crest okay then

[finite meadow]

mmmm. thank you! then, if it's a custom farm, do you think I have to include a custom tag instead? actually, idk what are those tags for farm warp points

[topaz zenith]

What are the variables in the winter star event? (Like what causes different dialogue from the same npc?)

[finite meadow]

or should it work by just using for instance, ''x y'' farm ''x y''

[vernal crest]

If it's your own custom farm then it's whatever you named it, if it's someone else's then check their json for what they named it. Edit: no I was wrong it's just Farm, Kisaa (the one who actually has a farm with an intra-map warp) says.

[vernal crest]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Dialogue#Festival_dialogue

[topaz zenith]

ty

[finite meadow]

great! ty!

[somber walrus]

ah guys how can I paste things as json code to make things easier to show?

[uncut viper]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[somber walrus]

I think i tried before and it didn't go well. i'll try again

[rigid musk]

putting it there and sending a link is okay, even if it shows as one line!

[topaz zenith]

Todays progress currently is very slayful

Do npcs typically have 5 heart events or is there events for each heart level? I wanna keep it closer to a Vanilla amount

[vernal crest]

You can check on the wiki for each character, plus there are several guides on the modding wiki that include info about where to place your heart events if you're interested

[topaz zenith]

Yaay ty

I currently have ideas for 2 events. That’s it LOL

[unique sigil]

yeah. note that if it's a custom farm map the warp Location string is still Farm instead of whatever internal ID you named your farm.

[vernal crest]

Thank you for correcting me on that, I was completely wrong. I should go edit my comment.

[quiet saddle]

I was redirected to this server by a close friend for pitching my mod idea to y'all.

I wanted to make a terrarium mod that adds placeable terrarium furnitures. Like the fish tank but for critters like snakes.

I wanted to make my own custom snake pet that goes into the terrarium, can be named, petted, has a friendship level, and produces a custom item (Snake Shed) twice per season, that can be turned into fertilizer.

I wanted to make various morphs of the ball python species that the player character can purchase/adopt.

The snakes would have various animations inside the terrarium based on the time of day, such as being active past 9 pm.

Before I go making this mod, I do have experience with modding with .json files, so I simply wanted to pitch my idea, in case anyone else was interested!

[vernal crest]

This is C# land, I think.

[rigid musk]

also im back, i had to make some phone calls - was something happening with your event when you try to ran it?

also yeah some of that sounds possible for like... basic pet stuff but a few things sound like you would need C# not just CP/Json/otherframeworkstuff

[quiet saddle]

nods

I can get used to that

[vernal crest]

Namely having your pet go into your terrarium

[topaz zenith]

Chat

[proven spindle]

Could make it a farm animal and rp it as a pet

Might be easier

[topaz zenith]

The name Svetlana for my npc is kinda sticking to me

[quiet saddle]

I've been modding games since 2014. I am open to learning new skills!!

[rigid musk]

its pretty :D

[topaz zenith]

YAAY

[light bramble]

does this work?

{
    "LogName": "Regen Balances",
    "Action": "Include",
    "FromFile": "assets/Balance/CheeseEdibility.json, assets/Balance/GoatCheeseEdibility.json",
    "When":{
        "Balance Regen": "true"
    }
}```

[topaz zenith]

Torn between Svetlana and Avdotya

[latent mauve]

I like Svetlana, I at least know how to say that one

[vernal crest]

Looks okay to me

[topaz zenith]

Svetlana is easy to say for me personally

[somber walrus]

ok finally worked out how to post the json file!

[topaz zenith]

Her kids are called Nikandr and Yelizaveta.

[hallow vale]

Hey everyone can you tell me where I can post my artwork?

[topaz zenith]

It’s implied her kids will inherit the blacksmith shop 🤭

[latent mauve]

For a mod you're making, or just general art?

[hallow vale]

Thanks for the information ❤️

[latent mauve]

If it's for a mod you are making, then #making-mods-art , if it's just general art you've made, then #creative

[topaz zenith]

Yall..I might make animated trailers or just art for my Npc mod

[somber walrus]

nuuu I did it right1

[vernal crest]

Have to be level 25 to post in creative i think

!codeblock

[ocean sail]

You can embed code in Discord using a series of three ` :
```
Your code can go here
Even if not a haiku
Just an example
```

For syntax highlighting, add the language code on the same line as the first
``` (with no space, like ```json).
The usual codes are cs (C#) and json.

To use this command, type !codeblock.

[latent mauve]

Then #images-and-memes if that one doesn't have that limit. Wouldn't be shocked if they all did to block spammers though

[somber walrus]

"Target": "Data/Events/farmhouse"

phew

there

[vernal crest]

No I don't think there's a level limit for images and memes because that's where people get pointed to in modded farmers

[topaz zenith]

Guys would animated trailers or just promotional art for my mod be worth it at all to do

[somber walrus]

is this correct?

[vernal crest]

Yes that is correct

[topaz zenith]

Like do people actually enjoy seeing that stuff

[somber walrus]

thanks!

[rigid musk]

Im sure some people do but do YOU want to do that

[round dock]

Yes, they do. 🙂

[vernal crest]

Once you've finished the actual mod, it might be! Before that, only if you're really enjoying the process of making them and don't mind that you will never use them lol

[topaz zenith]

If other people do lol

[latent mauve]

Very few NPC creators bother with that, just screenshots is usually sufficient, unless you want to put in the effort.

[topaz zenith]

Yeah fair lol

I feel like if I do art for it I’ll be lore logged to actually do the mod quicker 🤔

[latent mauve]

It just depends on how tired you are of making assets by the end of it all xD

[somber walrus]

What about this one? do I need to add anything here before moving to the main code? "Action": "EditData"

[latent mauve]

(the mod page is it's own boss level for most)

[topaz zenith]

what

[round dock]

I'm about to update my own mod page and I shiver thinking about it...

[rigid musk]

terrifying to think about honestly...

[topaz zenith]

What..

[vernal crest]

Nexus mod pages are notoriously difficult to make

[rigid musk]

^

Mine are usually barebones ngl

[lament shell]

when nexus asks me for images for my mod I freeze up and cry

[topaz zenith]

Am I cooked chat

[rigid musk]

im going to be a bit fancy for my Qi mod though... ive put a lot of effort into this man im not about to stop now

[vernal crest]

My name is not chat

[topaz zenith]

LOL

[vernal crest]

It's hard enough in the first place to even make a useful, interesting, informative mod page. Then you have to fight with the rubbish BBCode editor and all the confusing page options.

[lament shell]

I just started using my first mods mod desc as a template, which has made it super easy

[vernal crest]

1.6?

[gentle rose]

wrong place lmao

[lament shell]

duck excitement is gone

[rigid musk]

PF im sorry that message getting immediately deleted was so funny

[latent mauve]

A Nexus Mods page is a blank text box input and those are scary when you're not sure where to even begin with describing your mod and including everything you think is important for users to know.

[topaz zenith]

maan..

[latent mauve]

(and users will absolutely want to know way more than you could ever fit in the box)

[topaz zenith]

😭

[rigid musk]

u_u so much

[topaz zenith]

My progress on the dialogues going well

[vernal crest]

And will also not read the page, don't forget that part

[somber walrus]

@rigid musk @vernal crest um do I need to do anything here? "Action": "EditData" or should I move on?

[latent mauve]

Easy guide to Mod Page Sections for any type of mod:

• Description of mod
• Any features it adds
• Compatibility

[topaz zenith]

My mod will automatically conflict with Clint reforged

[latent mauve]

For an NPC you may also want to include things like the gift tastes, schedule or heart event details (under spoiler tags)

[round dock]

A lot of things outside the actual coding do require effort, especially in making an NPC. Your mod page, especially your description, is a determining factor in getting them interested in installing your work.

[vernal crest]

Please just send a link to the validator with the entire json if you want feedback on this because it's too hard to tell just from one line.

But also, have you already tested it since you got the advice earlier?

[topaz zenith]

Yep

[vernal crest]

Ugh I so so so so do not want to do this. Or gift tastes. I am fighting with myself about it because obviously people like it but I hate it.

[latent mauve]

thank you for the reminder about gift tastes, I edited my post. xD

[rigid musk]

honestly it depends on what you're doing (had to make another phone call im sorry)

[gentle rose]

so, question about mod pages - a lot of people have their headings in that stardew-style scroll (the one that shows which day it is before it starts in the game). Is there a way to generate those or do you have to edit them manually?

[somber walrus]

not yet....I wanted to make sure I did it properly first. I havent gotten back to the main code. but I have done some little changes though

[vernal crest]

Maybe I will make an article with all that info and in the mod description I can say "if you hate me and hate Hiria and hate love, go look in the article you filthy animals"

[velvet narwhal]

I'm thinking about the implications of putting false positive items in gift tastes and the npc still working

[vernal crest]

Testing and then reading error messages is a good way to find out whether you've done it right!

[rigid musk]

If you want to be able to play through the game with it triggering after a set of things happening, youll want to edit some stuff. If you don't care about that and just want to play it to see it in game, all you have to do is debug ebi [event code id] and you're fine

[vernal crest]

It's a website. Do I remember what website? No.

[rigid musk]

then you can futz with it from there if something doesnt work quite the way you want

[brittle pasture]

look up sdv scroll generator

[rigid musk]

like i did... with the one event i coded... watching it literally over 50 times

[somber walrus]

ok then XD

[vernal crest]

Do I want to tell people that if you have any text on an image on your mod page PLEASE also add it in text because Nexus doesn't support alt text and you might have vision-impaired players? Yes, yes I do.

[round dock]

I use the scroll generator 🙂

Very handy

[somber walrus]

I see. I just wanted to make sure the code is correct and finish it so I can get the event working from there I can record it...with the debugging method will it work all the time? like will it repeat the event?

first lets get that parrot in somehow....

[lament shell]

https://www.kdau.com/scrollish/ here it is

[latent mauve]

I haven't bothered with the fancy scrolls and just used different text sizes for headers, and it's not hurt me yet.

(plus it's accessible, so yay!)

[vernal crest]

Yes, I told you before that if you want to repeat the event you can just run the command again.

[somber walrus]

sorry I have short term memory so I am asking to double check. thank you 🙂

[tender bloom]

The scrolls are cuter but I’m lazy

[hard fern]

Honestly i love gift tastes, it's fun to decide what an npc does or doesn't like

[lament shell]

I only use it to like. repeat the title of my mod so I think I kept it accessible! since the title is already.. in the title

[tender bloom]

Usually my mod description is all text

[latent mauve]

Yeah, I keep my images to the Images tab

[hard fern]

I haven't figured out bbcode or anything so i have no images in my descriptions

[latent mauve]

long descriptions with tons of images are not fun when scrolling the new mods on mobile when I'm not at my computer.

[round dock]

Usually I use the scrolls as a divider, like mod description, compatibility, installation, credits, etc.

[vernal crest]

I didn't mean writing the gift tastes for my NPC (though not going to lie, I do dislike that too) I mean writing out a guide for all the gift tastes on my mod page. If people want to know the gift tastes why not just get a mod that shows them?

[gentle rose]

nexus not supporting alt text is such a weird oversight ngl

[vernal crest]

It's very frustrating

[tender bloom]

I’m lazy and don’t install LA but if I decide I care I open the mod files and read them lol

[topaz zenith]

I just realized since my oc has toddlers I can decorate them in fun clothing

[tender bloom]

(I do appreciate when people write nice guides!)

[topaz zenith]

I can recreate those fun toddler clothes I see at Walmart.

[hard fern]

Ah, yeah i can see that being complicated

[somber walrus]

I need to make sure to manifest my NPC character right?

[vernal crest]

I use LA because I'm lazy lol

[acoustic summit]

Is there a way to access both farmers of a local coop instance individually?

[rigid musk]

I wanna make one of those really pretty mod pages where it has the images of what the npc loves/hates/likes next to the name of hte item or smth but that sounds like so much work

[rigid musk]

yes the NPC also has to exist

[topaz zenith]

Are you allowed linking google docs?

If so you could put all the money important Info in one and link it too

Also do I have to put Every giftable item as a “like/dkslike/love/hate”?

[rotund elm]

Is SVE have special orders?

If not what would be a good mod to reference adding one to the game?

[brittle pasture]

yes, one I recall is Olivia's party thing
(why SVE specifically though, just familiarity?)

[rigid musk]

flash also just lets whoever use the code if they need to

< i can say that because ive literally discussed with him ✨

[rotund elm]

Yea, do you know what file they're in having trouble finding it

[brittle pasture]

if you want something smaller to chew on, Cornucopia Artisan Machines

[rigid musk]

(and im a mod there)

[topaz zenith]

I’m wondering since I wanna add a. gifting option for Svetlana

[tiny zealot]

i basically did this (made a help document with assorted info and spoilers, and linked to it saying "here's where to go if you hate fun enjoy the game differently than i do"). would recommend

[vernal crest]

She will inherit universal gift tastes but you also have to give her some of her own.

[tiny zealot]

1.7 feature request to rename "universal" tastes to "default" tastes /lh

[velvet narwhal]

Hate fun is my new slogan

[calm nebula]

Hating fun is fun though!

[gentle rose]

I'd be very careful copying from SVE unless you know kind of what you're doing though, because SVE is so big and has been around for a long enough time that they have to do some things in interesting ways

(in other words, most of the SVE examples are more complicated than you may need)

[topaz zenith]

Yep ty

[rigid musk]

It's in Code/OtherEvents/SpecialOrders

[tiny zealot]

(of course, a fairly popular streamer showcased my mod and got approximately 100% of the content in exactly the way i intended, so some people may be going in having seen that already. oh well!)

[rotund elm]

Thank you so much!!

[rigid musk]

I know ridgeside also has special orders but make sure you dont directly copy the code if you use theirs just use it as reference

[rotund elm]

I never look in anything with events hahaha

[rigid musk]

Do you mean they didn't showcase it right or-

honestly i have no clue why its stored in otherevents

[topaz zenith]

The main npc of my mod will be giftable. Her kids won’t

[rigid musk]

idk why flash stores things where he does but such is life

[lament shell]

its alright nothing will compare to cursors

[rigid musk]

id imagine rewriting the entire thing from the ground up and reorganizing it would be a literal living nightmare though so i dont really blame him

[tiny zealot]

no i mean it literally. there are a bunch of points in the video where he has exactly the reaction/thought process i wanted people to have when playing it. extremely satisfying

[rigid musk]

What mod was reviewed 👀

i never thought about anyone playing my mod on youtube before thats kinda scary actually

[vernal crest]

Hat Mouse Lacey

[tiny zealot]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/18177

[rigid musk]

dont look at my flaws ill cry

[frozen elm]

Since the latest update people are reporting messed up tile rotations across several of my mods (I rotate tiles quite a lot, it was never a problem before), does anyone know what that could be about?

[rigid musk]

OH!! Which reviewer did you watch play through it lol

[vernal crest]

the ichor mod unless you really love throwing people

[lament shell]

I had the yogscast streaming with my mod, it was crazy to see considering I watched them when I was eight

[tiny zealot]

(lacey is my golden child. i will (probably) always love her over all my other mods)

[ornate trellis]

i do be liking wobbly cats

[vernal crest]

Oh yeah wobbly cat I am sorry ichor I forgot her

[rigid musk]

oh my god that must be crazy to have seen

[vernal crest]

Is it definitely only since 1.6.15 and not any of the versions before it?

[latent mauve]

I linked a Google Sheet in my mod description for the apartments, so there's nothing against that.

[topaz zenith]

Okay thank you

[tiny zealot]

nino kito played it! i'm generally pleased about it but nothing is perfect (plenty of The Expected Reaction from the viewers 😔).
not sure whether to link it but i'm pretty sure it's the top hit for "hat mouse" on youtube

[topaz zenith]

If you could gift Svetlanas kids stuff you probably should only be able to gift a small selection not everything

[frozen elm]

no one ever reported this problem before and now it's been reported on 3-4 mods since the update so I kinda assume so

[latent mauve]

Jas and Vincent already have several items they won't accept as gifts, so that's not unusual to limit the gifting options for kids

[rigid musk]

I watched it! I was wondering if it was his video

[topaz zenith]

They’re younger than them too so it makes more sense

[rigid musk]

imagining coding 'gift rejection' for every single stardew item sounds like

a headache

[topaz zenith]

Yeahh

[vernal crest]

If you can find the changelog for it there might be something in there? It doesn't look like it's been mentioned in here before you.

[tiny zealot]

context tags my beloved!

[topaz zenith]

I don’t rlly want people gifting them fish and stuff tho

[latent mauve]

"CanReceiveGifts": false in Data/Characters is all you need

_>

[tiny zealot]

you can reject entire classes of item with one key

[vernal crest]

I am coding rejection for most of the games items for Hiria!

[latent mauve]

If you just want to reject every gift

[topaz zenith]

What if I want them being gifted some stuff not all

[tiny zealot]

^

[vernal crest]

RejectItem_<tag>

[latent mauve]

that was geared at Lily's comment about creating rejection dialogues for every item

[topaz zenith]

I might just turn her kids into non intractable npcs that have dialogue bubbles above their head

[rigid musk]

i just realized i dont actually know how Qi's gift tastes read...

[topaz zenith]

That might work better

[rigid musk]

as in i dont know if i got rid of the universal loves + likes from his thing

I know I coded it so he rejects stardrop tea though >:]

[frozen elm]

Thanks, I'll have a look. I thought maybe it was an overlying problem that had occured elsewhere as well since it showed up all of a sudden

[somber walrus]

ok loaded up the mod about to try the debugging XD @rigid musk @vernal crest

[topaz zenith]

So her kids say stuff but they don’t need portrays or text boxes

[latent mauve]

But yeah, more generally, you can set entire categories or context tags in the NPCGiftTastes to be loved, liked, neutral, disliked, or hated.

[topaz zenith]

Her kids depend on her schedule too so they’ll just be extensions of her

[vernal crest]

Sorry I don't have anything more useful for you. I haven't updated most of my mods for 1.6.15 yet but if you want me to update any of yours and see if I run into the issue, let me know.

[rigid musk]

:]

i will be using this for nefarious purposes

idk why i didnt think of that, i know i literally did that with trinkets for qi's gift tastes

so he would accept them but have a response when giving him them

[topaz zenith]

The only times her kids won’t be around is for like Harvey visits. They’ll be in the blacksmith

[rigid musk]

well his gift tastes are not accurate thats for sure...

[somber walrus]

Ok....it says event not found. I expected that to happen

[frozen elm]

No worries, and thanks for the offer, is there anything that should be done to update for 1.6.15 for CP mods? I haven't been able to replicate the problem so I'll probably ask for more details from the bug reporters for now

[vernal crest]

!log have a look at your log to see if you have any error messages

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[rigid musk]

can you send a smapi log with your patch summary ? ( patch summary [your mod's internal name] in the console )

you guys are fast lmao

[hard fern]

... sometimes im tempted to write jsons in google docs on my phone, and then quickly realize that's a bad idea

[latent mauve]

the validator still works on your phone, though. Just gotta save the link for later to send to yourself. 😛

[vernal crest]

Umm I don't remember, sorry. I don't think so. Oh there is info for mod authors about 1.6.15 after all, I just missed seeing it. https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Migrate_to_Stardew_Valley_1.6.9#1.6.15

There are also code apps for mobile

[somber walrus]

I actully do its saying about NPC map locations thats the error code and theres 2 of them

[rigid musk]

can you send the log for us to look at

[vernal crest]

If you share the link to the log here we can have a look.

[rigid musk]

also for context tags... is there one for universal tastes ? would it just be 'universal_like'

[topaz zenith]

The urge to code my ocs 2 kids as furniture items for if they’re in the blacksmith

[frozen elm]

thanks! doesn't look like it then

[tiny zealot]

no. universal like isn't a property of the item to be tagged with, it's a separate list

[rigid musk]

pain

[vernal crest]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Context_tags

[rigid musk]

I just want to make him not like anything ever is that so bad to ask

oh i have the context tag wiki up

[topaz zenith]

So like my ocs kids would be non interact able npcs or furniture depending on the location

[somber walrus]

'Sighs' I was about too until my laptop decided to go off

[rigid musk]

I was just hoping i didnt have to list... multiple things

[vernal crest]

Just put every category into his dislike list.

There's not that many categories

It will override universal tastes

[tiny zealot]

yeah use every category (or the context tags for the categories, if you are feeling spicy)

[rigid musk]

oh boy oh boy

[vernal crest]

That sounds very complicated compared to just keeping them as antisocial NPCs

[topaz zenith]

Or just have them be furniture that permanently stay in the blacksmith

[topaz zenith]

It would be funny if I could debug menu spawn them as furniture 😔

That’s the only reason I’d do that

[vernal crest]

This is the channel for discussion about making mods. If you want to chat about mods, #modded-stardew. If you want tech support with using mods, #1272025932932055121.

[vernal crest]

I'm curious, how much experience do you have with writing the json side of modding?

[rigid musk]

wait a damn minute... i already did this why does he like amethyst...

[topaz zenith]

I did a bunch for a class I took but I need to revise my lessons LOL

[rigid musk]

time to investigate that i guess

[vernal crest]

What about specifically for Stardew?

[rigid musk]

i forgot the gem category

[topaz zenith]

I haven’t done any for stardew yet

[rigid musk]

investigation complete

[vernal crest]

Your ideas are very grand for someone who has no experience so just be prepared to not be able to achieve as much as you're hoping to at the start.

[topaz zenith]

Yeah

It’s a permanent/long term project tho so

I got time

[vernal crest]

That's good! Going between an NPC and furniture is definitely going to take some fancy json writing.

[topaz zenith]

I want to do that only for the idea of putting them as furniture everywhere Clint goes

Bro will never be free /j

[topaz zenith]

I might just make a seperate personal mod with the kids sprites just for the goal I have

Torment Clint passively /j

[vernal crest]

Is the torment his children being present or knowing that they're furniture like he's living inside beauty and the beast?

[topaz zenith]

his children being present constantly LOL

As furniture /j

Bro wants a fatherly break but will never be granted it

[topaz zenith]

Clint seeing his kids as he enters the library so he can get a break: “darn”

[brittle ledge]

Susan, are you a member of any teen fanfic discords or groups? I think you'd get a lot of joy out of one of those.

[topaz zenith]

LOOOL

[topaz zenith]

I got unkindly requested to leave from one the other day

Because I didn’t understand messages without tonetags lol

I love fanfics I can personally write because then I can control it /ot

[brittle ledge]

You could look for autistic teen fanfic ones? Surely there has to be some

[topaz zenith]

My mod idea legit gives the fanfic vibe I want

[topaz zenith]

I will 100%. Gotta share my oc x Clint mod idea with them. LOL

[rigid musk]

nevermind i did not solve the issue he still likes quartz and other gems this is a development

[topaz zenith]

My mod idea is legit just fanfic in game form and I love it

[rigid musk]

if it brings you joy thats good :)

[topaz zenith]

Clint brings me joy and my mod idea also does

[rotund elm]

For the special orders the name and text have to be in brackets so would I put the i18n inside the brackets like so "[{{i18n:Willy_SOName}}]"

[somber walrus]

lily what do you mean by this as I am confused? how do I send this?

[rotund elm]

Nvm I see the info about strings!

[rigid musk]

just do patch summary [your mod's internal name] in the smapi console and then after it does its thing upload the log to the smapi log parser website and send the link

i.e. if i were doing it for my mod it would be patch summary AngelOfStars.Mrqifriendable in the console

[somber walrus]

In the smapi window thats up right now with the game?

[rigid musk]

your internal name will be in here in the 'uniqueID' section -

[rigid musk]

yeah the smapi console/window is the black box that pops up - its also where you would have done the 'debug ebi' command

[somber walrus]

AH sorry lily! I'm a slow learner :/

[rigid musk]

Don't worry! You don't have to apologize

I'm always happy to help

(when i can anyways)

[rotund elm]

can I specify an ID for objectives instead of a context tag for special order objectives

[rigid musk]

I haven't gotten to special order coding yet so im not 100% sure how all that works im sorry

[rotund elm]

No problem at all XD, theres quite a few of us here so Im sure someone will know

[drowsy pewter]

idk but all items have a context tag fpr that item id

[hallow prism]

depend, in some stuff you can have the id, but the part asking for context tag needs... context tag

[rigid musk]

is there a reason why intro dialogue just wouldnt happen when talking to an npc

or like they wouldnt have any dialogue the first day yo umeet them

[hallow prism]

hold an item and type debug listtags to get their tag, including their tag based on their id (unique to them)

[rotund elm]

Alright sounds good!

[hallow prism]

yes if your save is old, no if your save is fresh (less than 7 daysà

[vernal crest]

Problems with gift tastes

[hallow prism]

if you don't have any dialogue you have something wrong with your dialogue addition

[vernal crest]

Stops CTs and location dialogue

[rigid musk]

of course its the gift tastes... why wouldnt it be the gift tastes

[vernal crest]

It might not be. But given you were just tweaking that, it's my first guess.

[rigid musk]

i just wanted to fix his gift tastes is that so bad, is it so bad to want a guy who likes literally three things

(its a bit more than three but you know what i mean u_u)

[desert crane]

Hi sorry for bothering. I managed to create the mod to have the trees bear fruit when I want outside the greenhouse (Thanks to Redfirelily). But In the end I still don't understand how to make these changes apply to the greenhouse as well. If I give you the code I already have, would you be able to add what is missing to make it work inside the greenhouse as well? I just need one entry to be done, the other ones I will fill in myself. Thank you in advance.

[brittle pasture]

Sure, but I'm on my phone so I'll only offer advice

[desert crane]

No problem here is the code

[ocean sail]

@desert crane You leveled up to Cowpoke. You can now speak in our voice channels and share images in all channels!

[desert crane]

https://smapi.io/json/none/b247807928254e26a2a7a14413ebae4c

[brittle pasture]

what did you want again, it's been a while sorry

[somber walrus]

@rigid musk https://smapi.io/json/none/a8ae96e7f6c746ca97a2bc408c647b0d

[desert crane]

Now in vanilla, inside the greenhouse, trees bear fruits every season. I want them to bear fruit only on 3 seasons.

[dim rain]

hey im kind of new to modding, and it seems to say i have to update the game. can someone help me?

[round dock]

!mh

[ocean sail]

For help with modding issues, please ask in #1272025932932055121! When asking for assistance there, sharing an error log will help others identify your issue (see https://smapi.io/log for instructions).

To use this command, type !mh.

[brittle pasture]

it's going to be complex; you want to add more entries to the Entries, one for each fruit tree, each using TargetFields to target the nested ["the fruit tree Id", "Fruit", "Default"] entry and change the Condition field to the condition you want; something like "if not inside Greenhouse OR if one of these three seasons"

[rotund elm]

For a spcial orders dropbox can I specificy any tile and it will work?

[brittle pasture]

for now one thing at a time, set up the TargetFields entries first, the Condition you can worry later

[hallow prism]

it would need matching property in the map

which you CAN add yourself but be aware of mods that may already be doing that

[rotund elm]

Ok! I believe willy already has one so I can just look at his original Special order and use that right?

[desert crane]

I didn't create the code myself, @latent mauve did it for me. So the things you are asking me to do are out of my comprehension so far. I can modify something already done, but can't create it myself.

[rigid musk]

oh no no i need you to send the whole error log sorry

[hallow prism]

yes but exclude the box to already be active (look at qi orders for detailled exmaple)

[rotund elm]

Thanks lumina!

[rigid musk]

not the json validator file but the smapi log file

[somber walrus]

its ok your busy too sometimes 🙂

[rigid musk]

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[somber walrus]

oh

[drowsy pewter]

Selph did say that they couldnt do more than give advice, so I think it's your job now to consider what is possible to do for your mod

[latent mauve]

It shouldn't be too hard for you to look at what I gave you and figure out how that works as far as Targeting the Fields and adding your entries.

[rigid musk]

Even setting qi's gift tastes back to what I had them before I touched them doesn't fix me not being able to talk to him... maybe i borked something up in his dialogue file 😬

[desert crane]

I really thought it was something as easy as an extra line saying "If in greenhouse". But I'm thinking about it and maybe I just keep the greenhouse the way it is, and make the trees bear fruit for 3 months outside the greenhouse. On a mathematical level this actually gives me better space for balancing.

[desert crane]

Maybe I just keep it as it is. It should be ok. Just changing outside should work good enough

[rigid musk]

you know its probably the copious amounts of empty dialogue i have in my translation file

[desert crane]

Sorry If I made you write so much, I'm thinking about keeping the greenhouse the way it is and change only outside.

[latent mauve]

It honestly makes more sense to me to keep it so that the trees bear fruit in every season except winter outside, whereas the trees in the greenhouse also grow fruit in winter.

[desert crane]

Exactly my idea!!

[latent mauve]

You were talking about the reverse before which is a lot tougher to deal with, so I think that's a good change to approach it this way instead.

[wispy idol]

how does someone who's never coded get into modding? I've got the art side covered (I learned how to do pixel in 2024 and I was a traditional/digital artist before that for a long time) but now I want to create my own mod and Idk where to start 8) any pointers would be helpful please and thank u ❤️

[calm nebula]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[somber walrus]

https://smapi.io/log/f8c09eff37c04971a30ef690cbaefa3d @rigid musk @vernal crest

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 3.13.4 with SDV 1.5.6 (build 22018) on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 36 C# mods and 11 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[somber walrus]

uh....

[brittle pasture]

In that case that code you have is fine, just remove the seasons you dont want to produce from the list for each tree

[wispy idol]

oh thanks!

[desert crane]

Before I wanted to do 2 season outside and 3 seasons inside. But talking here right now I thought this exact thing you said. That's why I said I was going to settle with greenhouse producing for 4 seasons

[desert crane]

Yeah exactly. Thank you again for the help!

[rigid musk]

oh boy you... thats a lot

you're doing this in 1.5.6?

the info we've been giving you is for 1.6 events

[somber walrus]

yeah.....I did say its old XD

[vernal crest]

Can you get a log from after you have tried to run the event?

[latent mauve]

Are you planning to use it in 1.6 or 1.5.6?

[rigid musk]

^ We thought you wanted to update and use it for 1.6 so you could see it run there or at least I did anyways

[somber walrus]

Ok will do

[somber walrus]

I did say I dont mind updating if its needed

[latent mauve]

I don't think there's TOO much that's changed in events between the two versions that would impact your code in particular, but if something is up, it should be in the log after you run the event.

[vernal crest]

Updating shouldn't be necessary

[latent mauve]

Yeah, it should be fine as is since we didn't end up needing to do anything with Data/Locations

[somber walrus]

ah ok I see

[latent mauve]

Right aba, I was more saying that even if we were giving advice based on the 1.6 version of the event data, it shouldn't matter here, since none of that advice should have been unuseable in 1.5.6.

[somber walrus]

thanks for clairfying 🙂

[vernal crest]

Yes sorry I wasn't replying specifically to your message, just sort of generally saying that it shouldn't be necessary

[latent mauve]

no worries, I just wanted to make it very clear so we're all on the same page!

[somber walrus]

ok I don't care after sorting the heart event out I need to fix my laptop. I hate when it switches off. it's not to do with my charger. it's to do with a different battery that needs fixing

I was about to do the debug command....

[vernal crest]

Oh that's unfortunate :/

[topaz zenith]

One of my heart events is just Clint and Svetlana doing a musical duo. He sings she plays violin

[somber walrus]

[NPC Map Locations] Using maps\_default\winter_map.png.
[NPC Map Locations] Unknown locations: Custom_Eniitime's House``` @vernal crest @latent mauve

[lament shell]

question! for furniture catalogues what is the process for that :o? is there a framework needed extra

[vernal crest]

Please share the entire log!

[somber walrus]

oh....sorry I thought I shared the log?

I would have to scroll up to get it?

[vernal crest]

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[somber walrus]

I did share it. can I paste it again?

[vernal crest]

Last time you shared a link to the log, you hadn't tried running the event

[somber walrus]

I did

ok I'll redo another one

[vernal crest]

Can you show it to me? I see no link from you after I asked you to get a log with the event

In fact you hadn't even loaded into a save for the last log you sent

[somber walrus]

https://smapi.io/log/9987cddb10de42fca2a0ae0b93a8f3ed

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 3.13.4 with SDV 1.5.6 (build 22018) on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 36 C# mods and 11 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[brittle pasture]

Need either Calcifer or SpaceCore

[lament shell]

thank you!!

[velvet narwhal]

or furniture framework

[wispy idol]

what are you working on currently? I'd like to hear about your projects

[desert crane]

If I raise the selling price of parsnip, does the upgraded version of parsnip price changes accordingly? Or they would stay the same?

[brittle pasture]

upgraded as in higher quality? then yes

[desert crane]

Yes it changes accordingly?

[brittle pasture]

yes
though keep in mind that existing parsnip items that are already spawned keep their old price

you'd need to spawn new ones to get the updated price

[desert crane]

That's not a problem. Thanks for the info!

[vernal crest]

Thank you! It looks like your event might not be getting into the game. Can you please send me a link to your most up to date json for the event and also one for your content.json?

[somber walrus]

sure!

[wispy idol]

well, I'm an artist and I wanted to work with someone on incorporating drawings into a mod for the game but it looks like I could probably learn a bit on my own, possibly commissioning at some point for more complex mods.

[brittle ledge]

If you're looking to do like portraits or reskins those are pretty easy to do in CP!

[topaz zenith]

I decided

Svetlana has more kids

More than 2*

[hallow urchin]

Hi guys, is there somewhere where I can access the map layers/tilesheets? I need to check the specific index of a tile and I'm a bit dizzy from looking at the wiki/code all day so if someone already knows it'd be a big help ^^'

[vernal crest]

Is this for your own mod? And what do you mean by "access"?

[topaz zenith]

Svet only had two because I was working off the farmers kid limit of 2

[hallow urchin]

Yeah so basically I'm looking into ways I can detect if a mine layer has generated ladders or not, and one of them i'm trying out rn is checking if one of the map layers has a tile of that index

[somber walrus]

sighs. I forgot to save the new stuff before. i'll add them again. and refun the log and resend it to you. then I'll send the up to date version. not unless you want it now?

[hallow urchin]

i THINK i know what that index is but I wanna be sure

[vernal crest]

Ah so you're wanting advice about C#?

[hallow urchin]

I'm actually looking for the image itself

[vernal crest]

No, I don't want them before you have added back the fixes. Add the changes, save, try in game again and if it doesn't work, send another log.

[vernal crest]

As in you just want to look at it? Have you got your content unpacked?

[hallow urchin]

Hmm I don't think so, I never messed with content before

[vernal crest]

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[hallow urchin]

thanks!!

yeah that's what I needed :) thanku

[vernal crest]

Once you unpack you will find the mine maps and tilesheets under Content (Unpacked)/Maps/Mines

[hallow urchin]

saved me some good wikisurfing time

[vernal crest]

I meant to do a thumbs up but oh well, have a heart instead lol

[true coyote]

Ugh this spring decor option is driving me nuts lol, I keep changing my mind but none of it feels right to me

[somber walrus]

great I forgot how to edit the event. I guess it will take some time to remember

[vernal crest]

Just look back through the messages and read what you were taught again

[vernal crest]

Do all of it

[somber walrus]

I'm in the event studio. I am trying to change it from there.

[vernal crest]

What is an event studio?

[iron ridge]

is that misscoriel's thing?

[vernal crest]

That is my guess

[somber walrus]

Yup I am defooo using the old way. long time ago I met someone and she helped me with starting out with the mod. you might know her as misscoriel on youtube. shes the one I learned at first from. she has a Stardew Valley NPC creator that I am using. XD

[somber walrus]

yuppp

[velvet narwhal]

i wouldn't depend on builders and such because then you won't understand how to debug your own stuff

!makeevents

[ocean sail]

So you wanna make events?

This is a compiled masterlist of event-making tutorials. If any more are made, feel free to add them into this command!

Arknir
Tips n Tricks
NPC Movement
CG Events

Thylak
Events for Everyone

Meeliebones
Narrative Writing for Events

LenneDalben
Tips for Novices

SMC's Funniest Home Skits
Anatomy of an Event

Lemurkat
Creation and Story
Code Breakdown

Skellady
Events for Babies

Aviroen
Final Boss of Events

To use this command, type !makeevents.

[rigid musk]

https://smapi.io/log/9ead2a84ffda48279de8607489bec5c2

could someone help with this ? for reference this is the section where I load his portrait

    `{
        "LogName": "Qi Portraits",
        "Action": "Load",
        "Target": "Portraits/{{ModId}}_TheMrQi",
        "FromFile": "assets/QiPortrait.png"
    },`

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.10 with SDV 1.6.15 build 24356 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 17 C# mods and 5 content packs.

[somber walrus]

ah thanks for the link XD

[velvet narwhal]

it is a long boy of a list because there's a lot of finesse that can be done

[velvet narwhal]

is the portrait actually called QiPortrait.png

[rigid musk]

yeah

it worked before i changed his internal name :(

[velvet narwhal]

weird, you're not using the {{Target}} bit either, so it should Just Work™️

[rigid musk]

[velvet narwhal]

what happens if you name the png to AngelOfStars.Mrqifriendable_TheMrQi.png

[rigid musk]

why did that work

[rotund elm]

For a map patch do I need to worry about the patch having map properties?

[somber walrus]

I'm curious to ask then...if you guys are not using what I'm using then how are you able to maifest your npc character into your mods?

[rigid musk]

content patcher magicks

[velvet narwhal]

https://itisamystery.com/iiam.gif

[vernal crest]

Yes you do because they do not get transferred. You will need to use CP to add them.

Wow that's a squooshed cat

[vernal crest]

By writing the json ourselves

Or in some cases using templates or copying from other mods

[velvet narwhal]

!npc a few of us have written our own tutorials

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Aviroen has put together a template that will allow you to easily create a romanceable NPC.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

• Fireredlily has a WIP NPC Builder Please do report any errors you get with it into the NPC thread!

To use this command, type !npc.

[quiet cedar]

hi, i posted here yesterday about updating code for an older mod and i fixed that, but i realized all of the maps within the mods use internal tsx tilesets of the vanilla tilesheets that dont seem to be compatible with recolors and its driving me nuts 😭 i was trying to fix it but the last time i worked on a map mod was years ago and back then i only used the pngs as tilesets.. and then deleted them from the folder so the map would use the tilesheets from the game instead
but i have no idea how to do that with these tsx files and i dont understand how they work, and im not finding any explanations that are easy to understand.. does anyone know of a guide or something you could link, or any advice?

[somber walrus]

ohhhh

[velvet narwhal]

npcs are probably 2nd in line to machine data in terms of "really rough for newcomers"

[rigid musk]

well at least he loads now but hes still not talkin ... sad

Also yeah i built up to making an NPC

Went from turning gunther into placeable furniture to npc making

[vernal crest]

You should be able to embed the tsx files into the maps. Alternatively if you don't want to do that for some reason, just edit the source for the tsx file so it doesn't point outside the map folder.

[somber walrus]

hmm I guess I can upgrade then and not use the event studio.

[vernal crest]

What edits are you even making to the event? I thought the event was finished and you just want to make it play.

[velvet narwhal]

to add onto what aba is saying, you'd have to dig into the .tmx file itself with a text editor and change out things like this to point to vanilla names (unless you're using arbitrary tilesheet access) for things outside of the maps folder

[quiet cedar]

thanks! ill try that

[somber walrus]

It was mostly done I didnt lie about it. I showed you guys I have been trying to make the correct changes. and I didnt do this correctly. I forgot I was supposed to upade it through the event studio.

[vernal crest]

I wasn't accusing you of lying, I am just getting very confused about where you are at and what actually needs to be done to help you achieve what you want.

[gentle rose]

"supposed to" is a stretch here, you can do it that way but most people edit events directly

[versed wyvern]

Hum... does this mean there was actually a requirement for the load target and the asset to share a name? Did we... know that?

[vernal crest]

There cannot be. Mine work fine without the names matching.

[gentle rose]

also, the misscoriel mod was last updated over a year ago now, does anyone here know if events have had any breaking changes in 1.6 or 1.6.9?

[devout otter]

That shouldn't be. Some of my mod's file names are all over the place and they still work.

[vernal crest]

Not sure if you are asking because of Eniitime but they are working with 1.5.6 anyway

[tender bloom]

Event syntax got a lot stricter and better validated in 1.6

[versed wyvern]

Yeah, that's what I'd thought, I guess the source of the error is somewhere else in that json

[gentle rose]

partially for them, partially out of curiosity tbh

[tender bloom]

I don’t think anything much changed for events in 1.6.9 but idk for sure

[velvet narwhal]

i lose track of where/when/what the hell is going on whenever i need to load content and what the pipeline looks like because i have swiss cheese brain, but all of my pngs for my npcs are as such because i strictly use {{Target}}

[vernal crest]

We got some bug fixes for events in 1.6.9!

[devout otter]

I'm going to guess the Texture field in the NPC disposition.

[vernal crest]

Like optional NPC stuff actually working properly

[velvet narwhal]

optional npc, some gsq escape quote parsing

[vernal crest]

Tada

[velvet narwhal]

y'know, i haven't thought about that and i realize i set them all as null in my dispositions

[devout otter]

null basically means "set to default" right? There shouldn't be too much problem there.

[uncut viper]

null sets it to null, which is not necessarily the default

[rotund elm]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/6e1dbda9d4834c75883f41e050bce201

Is anyone able to explain or show me how to add a reward message, SVE uses an event and I am not near ready to start dabbling with events, I would prefer not to use mail either for this specific Special Order, much appreciated : )

The link is the Special Order and the Special Order Strings

[vernal crest]

Can you explain what form you are wanting your reward message to take if not an event or mail?

(Unless that's just a normal thing for Special Ordes and I am being obtuse)

[somber walrus]

nah I know but you said not to send the code in pieces. what do you want me to show you so that you know what to do? 🙂

[rotund elm]

After handing the last item to willy he would have dialogue with you, if that is possible which I think it is from other orders that use the deliver objective

im looking in soecialorders.json from unpacked rn having trouble finding a reference

[vernal crest]

If anything has changed since you last tested, your log. Also your content.json and your events.json (or whatever your json file is called that has your event in it).

[vernal crest]

If you can remember or find an exact phrase from his dialogue you can run a "find in files" search over the whole content unpacked folder and find where that dialogue is.

[rotund elm]

Ok cool I will try doing so

[deep cypress]

This is someone's game load path... is this a Android EMulator on PC?

[vernal crest]

Uh, what are you referring to Apryll?

[somber walrus]

Right.... I just managed to change it to 1 heart event on misscoriels npc creator. I am trying to put the farmhouse in data/events section but....its kinda hard for some reason. I'm trying to remember where I have to find that to change it.

[vernal crest]

Please go back and re-read the instructions you were given before. It was only a few hours ago and it's not polite to expect us to repeat them instead of you just searching discord.

[somber walrus]

I dont think you get what I am trying to say. do you want me to send you a picture as of what I am talking about?

[gentle rose]

what is?

[vernal crest]

Yes please

[gentle rose]

we may struggle giving help specifically for npc creator though because I don't think many people here use it, just fyi

[vernal crest]

But if you're asking for help with the NPC creator I probably won't be able to help

[somber walrus]

ok. ok... what I'll do is just update then. as the NPC creator now in a way isnt helping me much. I mostly know what to do it was certain things making me stuck

[vernal crest]

If you want to but there's not really any advantage for you in updating

At least, not any advantage regarding make it easier for you to understand how to fix your event

[hard fern]

tbh, i find writing npcs manually to be easier than using the creators, as i can control what exactly i'm doing and what i'm not

[velvet narwhal]

you're also learning in the process of how the game recognizes everything you type

[hard fern]

i do use some templates, mostly just for all the dialogue keys, but i still have to do the bulk of the work XD

[hard fern]

yeah, it helps build familiarity

[velvet narwhal]

well templates =/= a builder that has clickable components, so those are fine

you're still forced to look at something and go, "what the hell does that mean"

[uncut viper]

(it helps when the templates arent outdated too)

[vale stream]

Here's a new mod: Green Rain Totem
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/30535/

[calm nebula]

Got it, using my favorite LaTeX template

[vale stream]

(Thats all, sorry for interrupting )

[hallow prism]

(glad to see you around 😄 )

[rigid musk]

oh i love this :O

[vale stream]

I'm glad to hear!

Also hi Lumina!

(and hi 6480 )

[rigid musk]

why do you love maple syrup where does that even come from

sometimes this stuff breaks my brain

i said love - those are likes - my brain is marshmallow

[drowsy pewter]

hiii

[hard fern]

i think maple syrup is a universal thing? 🤔

[rigid musk]

yeah but his gift tastes should eliminate it

other than the SVE items which i have to manually do

[hallow prism]

eliminate it how?

[rigid musk]

he's set to dislike anything from the category for syrups

and fruit... and gems/minerals

[hallow prism]

ok

individual gift tastes override global ones

[rigid musk]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/7b5a055ff66d4c51949a65d40445e9fd

[hallow prism]

aka : if an item is universal like (by id) and the npc has universal dislike by category, it will be liked

[rigid musk]

o

is there a way for that to.. not do that

[hallow prism]

yes, adding the id

to the dislike

[hard fern]

slap in each indi-

yeah

[hallow prism]

it will then be having priority

[rigid musk]

and we're back to adding them manually

context tags you have failed me

[hallow prism]

not all, at least

[rigid musk]

at least ...

[hallow prism]

also technically it's not context tag

[uncut viper]

(i also see yyou have Stardrop Tea somewhere in there but just letting you know thats hardcoded, you're not changing the taste of that)

[hallow prism]

i do not remember where context tags would be (but probably lower than specific ids)

[rigid musk]

its okay i figured out how to circumvent that

[vernal crest]

(Although you can make NPCs reject Stardrop Tea completely)

[hallow prism]

gift taste dialogue?

[rigid musk]

i just added a gift rejection option so he doesnt actually accept it

yeah

[topaz zenith]

Bad news

[rigid musk]

I did that already B) No stardrop tea for mr qi

[hallow prism]

my solution would have been to set a custom friendship loss

😄

[topaz zenith]

I had bad math about how many kids my oc/npc canonically has

[hallow prism]

less simple

[vernal crest]

I cannot be bothered doing much work on gift tastes when as soon as a user installs a food or item mod where the mod author has decided their items are a universal love it will throw all my work out of the window anyway.

[hallow prism]

reject is more clean

[rigid musk]

far easier to make him not accept it lol

[uncut viper]

as long as you werent expecting it in the gift taste data to do anythin thats fine

custom friendship loss would be more difficult bc of unknowable multipliers

[rigid musk]

i dont wanna think about that

[vernal crest]

I will tell people what is canon for Hiria and then they can violate that all they want as long as I don't know about it.

[rigid musk]

it was mostly for me to remember to actually code that in before

[hallow prism]

it's hard for me to make gift tastes because making stuff liked isn't that high in significance when most stuff is already liked, so in term of narrative, loved/hated/disliked are the most impactful, and in term of fun, disliked/hated are not the best, and having too much loved isn't fun either

[rigid musk]

i can remove it now tbh i just forget to

[hallow prism]

so i make stuff difficult for myself 😄

[hallow prism]

well mods are unknowable, but birthday is once a year and the tea has special behaviour anyway

[hard fern]

and then there's this that i wrote XD

[velvet narwhal]

where's the cursed action dialogue that atra had for friendship gain/loss

[hallow prism]

i am not sure how the tea works on winter feast, last time i tried to offer it i don't remember the result being specially great

[vernal crest]

I was going to make Hiria reject every gift but I relented

[hallow prism]

it's not easy to acccept other mods influence on some stuff but it's also not doable to control everything, gift taste is a great area for compromise

[rotund elm]

is there a command for console to give a special order to the player manually

[hallow prism]

it's also why i heavily suggest people having context tags on their items so people can adjust gift taste in larger scale more easily

yes

debug gso orderid from memory

[rotund elm]

ok I think I keep missing it XD

[hallow prism]

let me verify but the wiki is searchable

[rotund elm]

awesome ty Ill search the wiki for it !

[hallow prism]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Console_commands#Quests_and_Special_Orders

[calm nebula]

Harmony

[rotund elm]

Oh thank you!

[hallow prism]

no it's just specialorder

[uncut viper]

dont forget the friendship book! or quality multipliers!

[hallow prism]

my memory was tricked 😄

[hallow prism]

not sure how they interact with the tea

well

[uncut viper]

not with the tea specifically, but with the friendship points gained

[hallow prism]

yeah

[calm nebula]

https://github.com/atravita-mods/StardewMods/blob/34f5e2013f95aba2c980c9dcf6ef44f0f96654be/PamTries/PamTries/HarmonyPatches/PamGiftTastes.cs#L25

[hallow prism]

to be fair suggestion was more in context of tea, it's a bit trickier for other stuff

[velvet narwhal]

foward privileges gone #making-mods-general message i found atra's cursed custom friendship per item

[uncut viper]

itd still apply for the tea

[vernal crest]

Of course you have code for this xD

[hallow prism]

my assumption is that the dialogue thing isn't affected by those

since it's not part of the gift itself

on some items i have special code to give sometimes a small friendship boost when gifting the "favorite" of a npc

[vernal crest]

Also LOL I still cannot write even the most simple C# mod on my own sure I will just jump into Harmony

[uncut viper]

what do you mean forward privileges gone

[velvet narwhal]

idk it said "won't be forwarded to slowmode channel"

[rigid musk]

thats horrifying

[uncut viper]

huh. curious

[hallow prism]

me is hmm

[gentle rose]

I wonder if that's just during the wait time or if you can't forward to a slowmode channel at all

[rotund elm]

So it would be "specialorder S:Willy"? I think I ID'ed my Special order wrong, I assumed that was supposed to be the name of the npc, can I just add {{ModId}}_ infront?

[hallow prism]

let me search it

[vernal crest]

Junimos might have turned it on for the whole server because of how weird modded-farmers is right now

[hallow prism]

yes pls do

[velvet narwhal]

damn them, ruining it for the rest of us

[rotund elm]

Ok cool!

[uncut viper]

well boy do i have a BETAS feature for you—

[hallow prism]

vanilla has simple names but right now you would overwrite willy default one

name it whatever_willy and then type debug specialorder whatever_willy

no special character

[vernal crest]

Is this your "I will make Harmony available for people who don't know what Harmony is" thing?

[uncut viper]

yes but dont worry i wasnt seriously suggesting it

[calm nebula]

How is this cursed?

I wanted Demetrius to give you a little friendship bonus for each unique sciency item you gave him

[hallow prism]

"AsterDialogueAcceptGift_(O)Lumisteria.MtVapius_StarShapedFlower": "$query !PLAYER_HAS_MAIL Current Lumisteria.MtVapius_FavoriteGiftFlag Any#Oh, @, what a marvelous gift. this flower is my favorite.#Don't you think they're out of this world? #$action AddMail Current Lumisteria.MtVapius_FavoriteGiftFlag received#$action AddFriendshipPoints AsterPellegrinVMV 20|This flower is marvelous, thanks a lot.#Don't you think they're out of this world?",

[vernal crest]

Well it can't hurt to look at it

[hallow prism]

if atra is cursed i'm beyond redemption

[uncut viper]

i wouldnt be so sure

[hallow prism]

because i do that, then i have a trigger to remove the flag periodically

[vernal crest]

Unless the weight of Atra's disapproval of me will crush me to death

[hallow prism]

the flag is also shared between npcs

[velvet narwhal]

i'm already beyond saving i might as well keep atra's seat comfy

[calm nebula]

Yeah, I sorta wanted to have the idea of Demetrius as a Collector TM

(Robin hates that.)

[rotund elm]

I am not doing it right X| lol

[hallow prism]

but this allows me to have a small bonus that you can see sometimes, not too often

[calm nebula]

He just collects....everything

Shells. Rocks. Dangerous fangs.

[hallow prism]

just the order id

no special characters

no S: whatever, it's not the id

and preface with debug

[uncut viper]

debug specialorder

[hallow prism]

always for vanilla commands

[rotund elm]

oh ok

[hallow prism]

except one or two

[calm nebula]

You're also overriding the vanilla Willy quest

[velvet narwhal]

"So my dad has this weird habit of stashing anything you give him in a storage unit, don't tell him I've been secretly taking some for my own experiments." -Maru

[calm nebula]

Which I assume you don't actually want to do

[hallow prism]

they should have changed the id by now

so it should be fine now

(but yeah i pointed that too. To be fair, vanilla ids are a bit confusing, i was like "can i use arbitrary stuff here? vanilla is npc name + sometimes numbers, can i put whatever???" the first time i did a special order)

[rotund elm]

Also I have now noticed, that I set the duration to Month and its only giving 14 days in game? any ideas?

[brave fable]

there was a platonymous template for visual studio around 1.5 that I used for everything, not sure if it's still usable but if so you can install that and it'll handle all the setup for you, and all you've gotta do is hit Debug to build it and run

[brave fable]

are there only 2 weeks left in the month or something? not sure how orders work

[hallow prism]

you are half way the month in game

[velvet narwhal]

special orders are hardcoded with time limits

oh-

[rotund elm]

I seee thank yall

[hallow prism]

month is valid but if you take it mid month it will have two weeks remaining

i don't remember how game filter those so in game it may not be possible to have it mid month

[rotund elm]

Is there a way I can specify as I dont want it to repeat

[hallow prism]

(i don't remember, so it may happen)

[rotund elm]

that way the time isnt shortened

[vernal crest]

Thank you for the information but I am not quite sure what it is meant to be helping me do. Learn to write C#?

[hallow prism]

wdym?

[brave fable]

you already have Repeatable False set on the order

[hallow prism]

specify what?

[rotund elm]

Like to specify a date or specific days the special order can appear on

[velvet narwhal]

oh you mean you want to make sure it starts at the first of the month or something

[calm nebula]

Sure

Use a GSQ to confine it to the first week

[brave fable]

oh, just to say that it's possible to get the awkward mystery stuff out of the way and immediately have a runnable do-nothing mod

[rotund elm]

How would I do that in the SO entry?

[brave fable]

which, from there, is basically your playground to do whatever you like

[hallow prism]

it may be tricky, but remember you can send orders by mails or something more reliable if needed

[brave fable]

such as learn c# ✨

[hard fern]

XD i'm running away to hide in here

[hallow prism]

i have to go, good luck

[uncut viper]

if it has a Month duration then you cant get it on or after Day 16 but thats the only filtering

[rotund elm]

Or better yet would it be possible to have a letter in the mail give the Special order as a quest from reading it?

[uncut viper]

(the only time based filtering anyway)

[vernal crest]

Ah, I see. By "handle the setup" do you mean creating the project and setting up the namespace and so on?

[brave fable]

events, mail, and dialogue can add special orders by trigger actions, so you've a lot of freedom in how to add one

[rotund elm]

Amazing! Thank you I will check the wiki for instructions

[uncut viper]

with mail it has its own specialorder command which is probably better

[brave fable]

yep, the old template would create a dummy manifest, a simple project file and ModEntry class, add the modbuildconfig package, and you'd have a runnable mod

[calm nebula]

There is a Conditions field too on Special Orders noe

[uncut viper]

(i dont know if its better. i assume it displays it slightly differently maybe)

[vernal crest]

Ah okay. I already know how to do that part but thank you!

[calm nebula]

I'm not at home so this is about as good of an instruction I can give