making-mods-general

[velvet narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237
@ the "not working on"

[topaz zenith]

Like she needs a schedule so she doesn’t just vanish into the void

[hard fern]

So long as the npc exists and works, that's all that matters!

[latent mauve]

mhm

[topaz zenith]

I hate when npcs just suddenly disappear

[hard fern]

Schedule can literally be stand at x tile for the whole entire day

[topaz zenith]

LOLL

[velvet narwhal]

compare slots, here's mine

[latent mauve]

Correction, schedule needs 2 points unless you're using the square command

[topaz zenith]

poor Susan. The stander

[round dock]

I think your best bet here is to plan integral things out, what you wanna accomplish and perhaps a general idea how you’re gonna accomplish that.

[hard fern]

Stand at x tile, then one to the left!

[topaz zenith]

I’m stuck on dialogue writing now LOL

I know I’ll revise it later but DAAMN she feels very flat

[latent mauve]

Easiest basic schedule is to pick one spot they go to after waking up, and then sending them back to bed.

[topaz zenith]

She has beef with Emily

[gentle rose]

with the npc apartments, do mod authors have to define a specific apartment to use (so potentially it could clash with other mods), or is it dynamically assigned?

[hard fern]

A proper plan is definitely important, i second that

[topaz zenith]

That’s her most interesting dialogue rn LOL

[round dock]

Why does she have beef with Emily?

[latent mauve]

I have a Google Sheet so mod authors can self-assign rooms and avoid clashes.

[topaz zenith]

Cuz she thinks clint likes her still

So she’s mad at Emily for it (she does have character development.)

[tiny zealot]

dynamic assignment would be sooooo cool (future version?)

[latent mauve]

There are currently a whole 3 NPCs taking up rooms. 😄

[gentle rose]

so theoretically, most people will have some empty spot (which is fine obviously), and each npc stays in their fixed location each time. I get you I get you

[latent mauve]

(Apparently Morris Redeemed has claimed space on floor 3, so that's cool)

[topaz zenith]

She’s an insecure silly

[velvet narwhal]

i imagine that'd be hard to do unless you do some sort of customfield and i guess... foreach your own personalized Door tiles?

[hard fern]

🤔 it sounds interesting

[topaz zenith]

Can you enter the apartments or

[latent mauve]

Yes

[gentle rose]

maybe by dynamically patching the map? as cursed as that is lmao

[velvet narwhal]

you'd become another one of the sea of Door Sufferers™️

[topaz zenith]

Are they just a hub for npcs to go where you don’t see

Oh

[hard fern]

door sufferers sounds scary

[latent mauve]

The apartments are an actual location added to the game that the farmer can visit.

[hard fern]

Are doors really that cursed

[topaz zenith]

Bet.

(Borrows one of your rooms /j)

[gentle rose]

each npc author uploads a map patch of one room, and the mod dynamically patches that map into the correct location

[latent mauve]

LOL

[tiny zealot]

call me if you need dynamic map patching. i've done it

[topaz zenith]

Casually swipes an apartment key

Ok that’d be a cool fetch quest for Susan

Finding her missing keys LOL

[round dock]

Would be a little funny to have some assigned dialogue, just some sort of reference with their neighbors Anime NPC and then NPC Expansion X casually complaining about the other

[latent mauve]

Still 8 first floor rooms open, as well as all but one room open on the other 6 floors. xD

[hard fern]

Omg it's all doors

[gentle rose]

oops! all doors

[topaz zenith]

Susan be like: “MORRIS WONT SHUT UP ABOUT TAXES!”

[hard fern]

Door valley

[velvet narwhal]

oops! custom doors!

[topaz zenith]

How does one collect a room

[velvet narwhal]

welcome to door depot

[round dock]

Why would Morris talk about taxes

[topaz zenith]

idk cuz he’s rich

Idk what rich people talk about

[gentle rose]

opening trenchcoat: may I interest you in… a door? it even opens!

[topaz zenith]

Writing dialogue for my ocs two kids is gonna be easier

[velvet narwhal]

i'm running out of ideas over here, button took the delayedaction to put into BETAS

[topaz zenith]

Since they’re toddlers that say very little.

[gentle rose]

wait, are you calling clint’s wife susan

[proven spindle]

Yup that's mine, currently finishing up a bunch of updates for it so that should be up in the next day or two :) I put him in what I figured would be one of the less popular floors so people making new NPCs could take the better ones

[topaz zenith]

Currently she’s called Susan LOL

[hard fern]

I'd want to put my NPC in an apt, but I've already established they live in the absolute middle of nowhere 😭

[latent mauve]

Awesome! ❤️

[gentle rose]

there’s a susan in sve, just so you know

[topaz zenith]

I just give my npcs whatever name I’m using at the time as a placeholder

[tiny zealot]

if i did a room assignment version of the apartment house, i'd define a CP token to expand to an NPC's assigned room (for saying e.g. "i live in apartment 3B") and maybe others for their neighbors

[topaz zenith]

Good thing it’s a placeholder

Also wait that could be cool

[round dock]

And your supposed toddlers are also NPCs?

[gentle rose]

honestly that would be a really cool framework to have

[topaz zenith]

If they’re both callled Susan and there’s dialogue where one of them mentions the other sharing it

[topaz zenith]

Sort of? Theyre kinda just attached to her if that makes sense

[latent mauve]

The mod is here: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/30295

[uncut viper]

how would you handle schedules?

[topaz zenith]

Like they don’t really go anywhere that she isn’t in the same vicinity of

[round dock]

Interesting, good luck

[latent mauve]

Google Sheet link is in the mod description so you can go and claim a room on the NPC Locations tab 😄

[topaz zenith]

Their schedules would be the same as hers if not a small difference to make up for like Harvey visits

[uncut viper]

(or events too, for that matter)

[tiny zealot]

liberal use of bed and/or a home location token

[latent mauve]

Dynamic apartments would be very cool, but my brain broke even thinking about how to try to do it.

[gentle rose]

I guess you would have to dynamically regenerate the schedules inside the building… allocate the max time taken to reach a room and then add pauses to pad up to that for the closer rooms maybe?

[latent mauve]

So I went with the simpler "self-service" approach for mod authors to use it as a building block

[velvet narwhal]

would you just interrupt the pathfinding for all of the npcs living in the apartments and slowly trickle them out

[topaz zenith]

Susan side eyeing you as you walk into clints room uninvited:

[tiny zealot]

i'm making myself want to experiment with it now. why do i come on here 😅

[topaz zenith]

(Don’t enter the room /j)

[latent mauve]

(My brain is still breaking trying to consider a future elevator)

[velvet narwhal]

idk why you choose to accept scope creep either

[hard fern]

elevator....

[topaz zenith]

Can I ask who scope is

[hard fern]

Is the scope creep in the room with us-

[topaz zenith]

WHO IS SCOPE CREEP

[calm nebula]

Land of thr off topic

[velvet narwhal]

i'm out of ideas right now, so probably not

[calm nebula]

Home of the poastsrs

[uncut viper]

Scope Creep = when you start adding more and more ideas onto your mod before you've finished other ones

[gentle rose]

you know what would be fun? animating the elevator by patching it to different places in the map in real time

[topaz zenith]

That’s really how I work LOL

[hard fern]

😔 i still can't escape scope creep

[uncut viper]

a la "thats out of scope"

[topaz zenith]

I work better by doing that

[latent mauve]

well, if it helps, the default floor map has a NPC warp that skips the other floors and goes straight down to the lobby. Doesn't really work with the individual floors going up the stairs yet though.

[topaz zenith]

I struggle with focusing on a singular thing at once

[gentle rose]

the issue with scope creep is that you never actually do the necessary things

[versed wyvern]

I think scope creep also includes content that diverts from the main purpose of the mod even if you've completed and released it

[topaz zenith]

Nessasary can be last

[latent mauve]

My initial thought was "make an elevator room that's hidden and has NPC warps for each floor in it."

[round dock]

man

[topaz zenith]

The npc im making was never rlly meant to be a standalone thing

[gentle rose]

and the mod becomes bloated and not specific enough

[topaz zenith]

She was always supposed to have other stuff added to LOL

[hard fern]

...i need to fix my npc's sprites (by making their stance wider, lmfaoo)

[velvet narwhal]

i was thinking about this the other day and actually you might be able to get away with the minecart system

[topaz zenith]

Like story tweaks etc

[latent mauve]

I looked at this earlier this morning and my brain just shut off completely LOL

[velvet narwhal]

[topaz zenith]

And a small amount of random items

[latent mauve]

The UI is also not great if you get into larger numbers of floors

[velvet narwhal]

it's not that bad, at least you're not trying to make a conditional where the player is allowed to create the minecart system

[latent mauve]

You'd need the elevator UI format after a point

[hard fern]

😔 i keep putting this off because i focus on dialogue instead

[topaz zenith]

Me when om writing dialogue but I’m stuck

[gentle rose]

ngl if you aim for a mod to have everything (especially when you’re just starting modding), you’re just never going to release it because you’re never going to be done. A mod that only does part of what you want is better than no mod imo

[topaz zenith]

It’s not rlly everything

[velvet narwhal]

again

[topaz zenith]

It’s a few minor things alongside an Npc

[hard fern]

[topaz zenith]

I have 0 intent to release jsut the Npc for a public use before she’s done

[velvet narwhal]

this is the hardest part for new modders

[gentle rose]

forget Rome wasn’t built in a day, let’s do stardew didn’t release on 1.6

[velvet narwhal]

getting the npc in the game

[topaz zenith]

well yeah I have people who would test the npc for me too so I don’t have to release her publically

Before adding more stuff once I know she works fine

[hard fern]

Getting my NPC to actually leave the void was hard enough 😭

[topaz zenith]

LOL

[latent mauve]

I have so many half-finished Google Sheet projects that are just converting old frameworks to CP right now sideeyes CP-A to SpaceCore / CP Building DrawLayers doc

[gentle rose]

when I was first trying out modding and Console Code (my beloved), I warped myself into npc warp rooms a bunch of times. I genuinely have no memory of why

[topaz zenith]

I’m probably gonna do dialogue -> sprites -> coding -> redo sprites -> tweak dialogue -> tweak reactions

[gentle rose]

but they were fun to see in action

[topaz zenith]

So like reactions as in when you stand infront of an npc and they run past you for example

[velvet narwhal]

idk my favorite is seeing my own unique id in the harmony_summary and going "okay now what"

[hard fern]

the whole time i was thinking i fucked up the drawlayers and it was just because i typoed my tilesheet

[latent mauve]

My brain has decided "If I do this thing once, I'm gonna make a spreadsheet with formulas to do it for me if I ever have to do it again"

[hard fern]

And i never even touched the building afterwards

[gentle rose]

unfortunately, at the time I was using the mod id me.MyTweaks (not a joke)

[topaz zenith]

I wanna have extensive dialogue to fix her current issue of just being flat and one sided

[latent mauve]

Could probably cheat a bit by using random tokens mad-lib style for some repeatable dialogue with variations.

[topaz zenith]

prob

[gentle rose]

I had the mod author as “me” on every single mod I made (which was like, one catch-all CP mod and one catch-all smapi mod lmao)

[velvet narwhal]

me and my key formatter for my npcs 🤝

[topaz zenith]

She’s supposed to be a bitch LOL

Her current dialogue does not fit that at all

[rotund elm]

On my maps is it possible to have a Back3 or just Back and Back2

[hard fern]

Yes?

[gentle rose]

also I don’t mean my npc rooms. I refuse to make an npc unless there’s a really funny one I make as a joke OR I finally make a ||clint replacerinator||

[hard fern]

Just i think properties and stuff only apply to the first one

[rotund elm]

ok cool I wasnt sure if there was a limit lmao

[velvet narwhal]

actual TileData need to be on their base named layers, but you can have as many layers as you wish

[topaz zenith]

WHAT

[rotund elm]

awesome!

[gentle rose]

don’t some SVE maps have like 5 of the same layer

[topaz zenith]

Clint noo

[latent mauve]

You can in theory add as many Back numbered layers as you want, just the unnumbered layers are the only ones that respect collision or tiledata object properties

[hard fern]

Turn clint into a furnace XD

[topaz zenith]

NOOO

Wait..that would be funny

If my npc could react to that (not rlly possible tho)

Oh no my husband is a furnace-core

[hard fern]

Wait thats actually so easy to do i can just make clint a furnace right now

[uncut viper]

is there actually no limit to the layers or is there some weird limit like it breaks after Back99

[velvet narwhal]

additional caveat: if you have a TileData on the base layer, it also needs to have a valid tile there (even if it's invisible)

[velvet narwhal]

i mean, do you want me to check

[uncut viper]

yes

[velvet narwhal]

ok

[latent mauve]

NPC nightmare fuel? 😛

[rotund elm]

Ok I will keep that in mind

[uncut viper]

(no)

[topaz zenith]

yeah

[gentle rose]

I was gonna replace him with like this chill lumberjack-type guy who doesn’t make any moves on uninterested npcs and also doesn’t have the most ridiculously specific opening hours and doesn’t start closing once a week AFTER you finish CC 😭

[topaz zenith]

My npc/oc is a silly fella

[latent mauve]

Practical joker Clint dresses up as a Furnace that is surprisingly realistic before revealing that it's his Spirit's Eve costume

[topaz zenith]

I-..can I make an alternative npc thing for that LOL

[hard fern]

Cant clint close at the same time as anyone else jeez 😭 4pm

[gentle rose]

wdym?

[latent mauve]

I made a Community Center mod just so Clint would have a workstation in the Community Center boiler room that you could access his shop from on Fridays. xD

[topaz zenith]

I wanna make a joke about my npc thinking he used magic or smthng to replace clint

[latent mauve]

He's free to admire the boiler, but if he needs money so bad, he should take my business on Fridays.

[gentle rose]

my guy works like three hours a week and charges us 25g for a three second job 😭 work ethic whomst /lh

[topaz zenith]

ATLEAST MY NPC MOD WILL MAKE THAT AMKE SENSE STORY WISE

[hard fern]

Tbh, i still forget pierre is closed on wednesdays

[topaz zenith]

“Oh yeah I have a wife and kids. I should get home now” vibe

[gentle rose]

at least pierre closes less the more you progress in the game 😭 clint feels like a punishment

[versed wyvern]

You giving him a new house too?

[latent mauve]

Clint's earlier close time honestly created a good reason for getting the Key to the Town later, at least

[topaz zenith]

Maybe

[hard fern]

I love how clint stares at the boiler for hours. You go, dude...

😭

[topaz zenith]

I might give him a proper house in the future

[versed wyvern]

Do you really need him that much by the time you can get the Key though

[topaz zenith]

Bro has a family so they don’t need to live in the back room anymore

[versed wyvern]

Quite a lot of unlocks have the problem of coming too late to be useful tbh

[tiny zealot]

listen, get real life people in a room with a fireplace or a wood stove and count how many of them end up staring at it (a lot!)

[gentle rose]

also, Anti-Clint™️ will give you replacement tools while upgrading he’s just nice like that

[topaz zenith]

😭

Can I borrow ur idea for Susan

[latent mauve]

He's still faster than a geode crusher

[gentle rose]

that’s why netflix has multiple “movies” that are just an hour of a fireplace burning

[topaz zenith]

She LENDS you stuff. You gotta return it tho otherwise she’d run out

[tiny zealot]

for what it's worth there's already a mod that has clint give you backup tools while he upgrades yours

[latent mauve]

^

[topaz zenith]

Yeah but who says another won’t hurt lol

[gentle rose]

not really my idea, it’s a pretty common one haha

[latent mauve]

!twocakes

[ocean sail]

If you discover that someone has made or is making a mod with a similar concept to yours, don't stress! Our community promotes the idea of "two cakes", where two versions of the same idea can peacefully co-exist. Your mod will have your own unique stamp on it that makes it special.

To use this command, type !twocakes.

[hard fern]

😔 he should at least sit down

[versed wyvern]

Instructions unclear, now I have diabetes

[topaz zenith]

I’ll give him a chair

He doesn’t have to use it tho. It’ll just be there

[gentle rose]

anyway. this is Anti-Clint™️

[fervent horizon]

Would this be right "When": { "HasFlag": "hostPlayer", "FarmhouseUpgrade": "3" }

[hard fern]

It looks like a moss ball XD

[gentle rose]

here he is at 4x scale for those of you who want a better look at that handsome, handsome face

[topaz zenith]

Imma draw him later

[gentle rose]

idk why my discord is refusing to send things with transparency on rn

[hard fern]

I think the blurry one had a certain charm

Lol

[velvet narwhal]

the blurry one made me think of a long legged junimo

that's just a bush with legs

[calm nebula]

Instructions unclear. Hair is on fire now

[gentle rose]

I’m so upset I don’t have the original game he came from any more

[round dock]

[gentle rose]

this is an artist’s recreation but he’s from a game I made in gamemaker when I was nine

[velvet narwhal]

live long enough to watch yourself become the villain, all of those public assets you created being redistributed

[gentle rose]

concernedape, I’d like royalties for the unlicensed use of my green blorb /lh

[fervent horizon]

Would this be right "When": { "HasFlag": "hostPlayer", "FarmhouseUpgrade": "3" }

mainly the host player part

[tiny zealot]

that doesn't look right. i don't know of a mail flag called hostPlayer.
what are you trying to do?

[fervent horizon]

ok, I am just confused about this - FarmhouseUpgrade The farmhouse upgrade level for the current or specified player. The normal values are 0 (initial farmhouse), 1 (adds kitchen), 2 (add children's bedroom), and 3 (adds cellar). Mods may add upgrade levels beyond that.

[velvet narwhal]

tbh i think you can just leave it as FarmhouseUpgrade

[fervent horizon]

the patch works for the host whose house it is, but the patch doesn't show for the farmhands

map patch

[drowsy pewter]

You may need to use Query?

[velvet narwhal]

oh you're doing cursed things

[fervent horizon]

ha, trying to figure out how to get the cellar stairs to show up for my house on mine and my wife's farm

using Kisaa's farmhouse

[velvet narwhal]

[fervent horizon]

I figure that when it checks for farmhouse level 3, it is checking just the owner

[velvet narwhal]

wdym, like connecting the warp from the main to the farmhand?

yeah it checks owners because of the ~shadow realm~ shenanigans

[fervent horizon]

so, if my wife upgraded her cabin to level 3, they would probably show for her

[velvet narwhal]

without the hostplayer bit, yes, it should if it's only stated as farmhouseupgrade

[teal bridge]

I ran into an interesting little issue where if I call Texture2D.SetData, with Clear Glasses enabled, it keeps drawing the old texture forever. Any graphics guys here or anyone seen/found a workaround for that issue? Atra perhaps?

It's clearly a bug in that mod (or maybe in the original SpriteMaster code) but knowing that doesn't automatically suggest a workaround, other than something awful like creating a new texture on every frame.

[gentle rose]

I vote something awful /lh

[fervent horizon]

yeah, this is how Kisaa has it, seeing if I can troubleshoot it for my own save

[teal bridge]

Strangely, this does not seem to affect images in GMCM, they do update even with CG on.

[fervent horizon]

but farmhouses suck

[velvet narwhal]

i'm not quite understanding, does kisaa have hostplayer?

or was that an addition that you're trying to do?

and if so: what is the actual plan of action that you wanted to get going? different farmhouses between the main player and the farmhand?

[tiny zealot]

i think the goal is: if the host has house 3, apply the cellar stairs patch, regardless of the current player's house

[gentle rose]

shouldn’t it be something like {{FarmhouseUpgrade: hostPlayer}} ?

going by the cp docs

[fervent horizon]

no

[uncut viper]

irocendar is correct, minus the outer braces

[tiny zealot]

this is what you want. "FarmhouseUpgrade: hostPlayer": 3

[fervent horizon]

      "Action": "EditMap",
      "Target": "Maps/FarmHouse2",
      "FromFile": "assets/Farmhouse_Cellar.tmx",
      "FromArea": { "X":0, "Y":0, "Width":4, "Height":4 },
      "ToArea": { "X":42, "Y":36, "Width":4, "Height":4 },
      "PatchMode": "Replace",
      "When": {
        "FarmhouseUpgrade": "3"
      }
    },```

This is her code

[uncut viper]

that code only checks the current player always

[fervent horizon]

right

[gentle rose]

so replace FarmhouseUpgrade with FarmhouseUpgrade: hostPlayer

and it will check the host instead

[fervent horizon]

awesome, That is what I couldn't figure out

thanks

[mortal stag]

yoo i had a mod before 1.6.9 that worked where i could sell a custom item. anyone know what i have to change to make it sellable again

it's not letting me put it in the bin but there is a price on it still

[uncut viper]

it needs a Type

previously you were able to get away with not giving it a Type but that was unintentional

now it needs a type

[rotund elm]

Is there a reason new tiles are not showing in the tile animation editor

nvm fixed it

Well actually now I cant select them in the editor

[light bramble]

can you do or functions in a when for content patcher?

[tiny zealot]

an individual check (entry) in a When can often work like an OR, but you can't do an or between multiple entries

for example, "Year": "2, 3" means year 2 OR year 3

but you can't directly do, say, year 2 OR HasFlag: some-mail-id

usually you can accomplish something like that with a dynamic token. what specifically are you trying to OR together?

[mortal stag]

thank you

[brave fable]

why does the shipping bin expect Type values now? what behaviour is this meant to cover?

seems a real abstract way to check if something can be shipped

[uncut viper]

i assume it has to do with the new Item.canBeShipped method which replaces Object.canBeShipped, to allow any type

if a mod makes it return true that is

and by replaces i mean apparently Object.canBeShipped now just overrides it and checks for the type
dont know what it did before. just going off the migration page

[brave fable]

it just checks if type is not null? wonder what objects even fail that check

[light bramble]

thank you

[uncut viper]

i asume any object that isnt actually an Object but instead a different derivative of Item fails it

so tools and clothing, i suppose

[brave fable]

but they wouldn't be using the Object override in the first place

[uncut viper]

true

dunno then. maybe the intent is to now let you make an item unshippable by simply doing that

[mortal stag]

i am so sad i gotta go thru trinkets to treasures and add "Type": "Basic", to 100 items lol

[brave fable]

again, very abstract way of doing that lol

isn't there an ExcludeFromShippingBin property

[uncut viper]

no, just ExcludeFromShipping_Collection_ afaik

[mortal stag]

nah i added type: basic to my whiskey and it still can't be shipped

[uncut viper]

old items are broken forever

[mortal stag]

ah right

ye it works thanks

[brave fable]

relatable

[rotund elm]

is it possible to add a light source that gets bigger and smaller with the lights animation?

[gaunt orbit]

the best way to do something cross-entry would by dynamic tokens.

[brave fable]

sure, with c# you can define custom light classes with a draw method override. ive got a couple of my own, you just need to add-if-null on location change via smapi events

[mortal stag]

well i like to whine but i'm done already so i guess that wasn't that bad

[rotund elm]

Ok cool thank you!

[versed wyvern]

Is there a way to block off a path from NPC pathing? I need to be sure they don't try to walk on water in a pool

[fervent horizon]

Is the tile data for the water set to water? I believe that should prevent them walking over it.

[versed wyvern]

It must not be since I had one walk over it, but would marking it as water also prevent the player from entering it like a pool?

[latent mauve]

You could put a TileData object for NPCBarrier at or blocking your pool entrance?

[versed wyvern]

I was under the impression NPCBarrier could only be used in certain locations

[latent mauve]

I mean, you can exclude an entire location from the NPC Pathfinding, but it would help to know what kind of location you're blocking off

ah-ha!

The NoPath tile property would handle this, probably

[versed wyvern]

Aha, my eyes glazed right over that one, I'll give it a shot, thanks

[latent mauve]

Also yay, I have a functioning NPC-only elevator for faster warps to different floors

[rotund elm]

can anyone tell me why my custom sand tiles are like this? I gave them the Type Dirt property, I don't see any other difference from them vs the regular tilesheets

[versed wyvern]

Any errors in your SMAPI console?

[rotund elm]

No errors, everything is layered properly too

[latent mauve]

you're not testing with a recolor mod on, right?

[rotund elm]

Nope

The only thing that makes sense to me is it's some sort of tile property, but the only one on the vanilla sand tiles is Type Dirt so it shouldn't be that as I have given that property so Im lost

[latent mauve]

doublecheck that you aren't mixing tiles from the island tilesheet and the beach?

The colors/shades are slightly different, enough to create that level of variance.

(island sand is darker)

[rotund elm]

It's not that I havent once opened the island tilesheet, and I copied the tiles in aseprite from the sheet attached to the beach

[versed wyvern]

I was going to suggest perhaps you had to remove any copies of the vanilla tilesheets you had in your working folder because it looks like a season mismatch, but if you don't have any errors that might not be it

[rotund elm]

Yea, I know someone else brought this exact issue up a few weeks ago or months, idr but I cant find it X|

[tender bloom]

Use lookup anything tile lookup options to check what’s displaying?

[rotund elm]

Does it have to do something with the season maybe, look up anything only shows that difference, but its the tilesheet name so Im not sure

I dont feel like that would affect it

especially when all my other custom tiles are fine except the sand ones

[versed wyvern]

Are you testing in a season that's not spring there?

[rotund elm]

It is summer, but even if I was using both spring and summer tiles that shouldn't affect the rain overlay over those tiles no?

also I added the light path in the paths layer to my lamps and it is not working either, idk if there is a property I am supposed to set on the tilesheet for the lamps or what

thank yall for the help as well this is killing me X|

[versed wyvern]

Well, your situation seems different from the one I had but I'll suggest removing any copies of spring_beach and other such vanilla tilesheets from your mod's folder, just to see

[rotund elm]

They are already removed in the game mods folder, they are present in the regular folder I edit my mod and maps in which isnt in the stardew game directory

for reference all tiles in the red boxes aren't being overlayed by the rain

[versed wyvern]

Hmm, ok... and have you tried removing the Dirt property just to see if that's the cause?

[rotund elm]

Originally they didn't have it when I noticed the issue and then added it after to see if that would fix it and nothing happened

[tender bloom]

I wonder if they're somehow ending up on top of the rain?

No idea how that would happen

super weird...

[rotund elm]

Possibly? The sand tiles are on the Back layer, the bench is on the Buildings layer if that gives context

[unique sigil]

does your tilesheet already have seasonal variants? what is the in game season?

[glossy cargo]

I've seen that there is an easter egg dialogue if you try to gift purple shorts to marnie. She says something about quality silk that you can't get at Joja.

I am unable to find where in the game files this text is, nor can I find where in the code it triggers. Anyone got a pointer?

[rotund elm]

No it doesn't yet, it is summer in the game I can try setting it to spring or something else

[unique sigil]

that's your problem

you go make a summer variant of your tilesheet

for the tilesheet to automatically change with the seasons, the naming scheme has to be {{season}}_yourtilesheetname.png

[brittle pasture]

Strings/schedules/Marnie.json

[glossy cargo]

Wait, is this dialogue specific to winter 16?

What?

[brittle pasture]

that's not the mayor purple shorts easter egg, that's just her night market line

[rotund elm]

so is there a reason the other tiles work fine in the same tilesheet tho? or is there a property I can set for the tile to specify its season

[brittle pasture]

you might have misremembered

if you try gifting it to her she just giggles you get other dialogue

[uncut viper]

gifting purple shorts to marnie just makes her reject it and pretend she doesnt know what it is, which would be in her Characters/Dialogue file

[glossy cargo]

I might have been mislead by a youtube video

[teal bridge]

It might be the Fair dialogue?

[brittle pasture]

(the giggles is if you talk to her when you're wearing the trimmed golden version)

[glossy cargo]

Last point here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqSAe08ZJP4

[teal bridge]

Trying to remember, been a while since I exhibited them at the fair. She has some unique dialog for that.

[glossy cargo]

At the fair in my memories she talks about purple lettuce....

[uncut viper]

yeah they just put that over an unrelated background

[versed wyvern]

Yeah judging by the schedule file that's just not the line

[unique sigil]

if i'm reading this correctly:

1. your tilesheet does not have a summer variant, while the in game season is summer.
2. the mismatch happens because the vanilla tilesheet is in the summer version, but your tilesheet is still in the spring variant.
3. to make your tilesheet change with the seasons you have to make 4 variants of it, and name each with {{season}}_tilesheetname.png format.
4. Embed the spring variant into your .tmx file, then do a Load action in CP to load your custom tilesheet (all 4 placed in your assets folder).

[glossy cargo]

dang tiktokers and their lies

Alright so I found this:

[rotund elm]

Ok I am on it

[versed wyvern]

Yep that should be it

[glossy cargo]

This is presumably the gift dialogue. I still can't find where in the code it gets triggered. Ideas?

[brittle pasture]

yeah the "island" one in that video is also fake no its real

[versed wyvern]

I think that kind of thing is in her gift tastes?

[unique sigil]

by the way, tile layering in your .tmx has nothing to do with rain overlay. the rain overlay will be drawn on top of everything

[brittle pasture]

reject_<item_id> is for if you give the quest item to the wrong person

which in this case applies if you try giving the purple shorts (item ID 789) to Marnie

[rotund elm]

thank god that scared me

[latent mauve]

The purple silk line is Night Market specific, that's why it's tied to winter 16

[glossy cargo]

The method NPC.GetGiftReaction() has the code for the AcceptGift_ dialogues, but I see none for the reject_ dialogue

[stoic spindle]

Hello; does anyone know how to edit Queen of Sauce events? I want to reorder the recipes given to you (for example, giving Carp Surprise or Hashbrowns in Year 1 instead of Year 2), but I don't know where to start. I have basic coding knowledge but am unsure of where to search for it

[brittle pasture]

it's in tryToReceiveActiveObject

which calls GetGiftReaction

after all other checks (including the quest stuff)

[glossy cargo]

Is it? It seems to be right there

[unique sigil]

your tilesheets are actually working as intended. it's the lack of seasonal variants that cause the mismatch

you can also make seasonal variants for the other tiles like the bridge and building too by the way, just draw your seasonal edits/change color palette on top of the existing tiles. what's important is that every tile is in the exact same place as the spring variant.

also, if you don't release your custom tiles as a whole mod (like mine), make sure the Load action for the tilesheet happens before the Load action for the map.

[brittle pasture]

huh never mind that is a thing

sorry for the misinfo

[glossy cargo]

I'm investigating tryToReceiveActiveObject() and can't find rejection code. I can find where it checks for giving a quest item, but it seems like if you give it to the wrong person it just does nothing

[rotund elm]

Ok good to know I'm assuming I wont have to change much for the seasonal varirants besides the house, which I already made just havent implimented

[uncut viper]

just ctrl F reject_

[brittle pasture]

make sure you're looking at NPC.tryToReceiveActiveObject

[glossy cargo]

oooohhhh found it

It was a super long line that I didn't see the stuff off screen

my bad

[wispy idol]

Hi, I'm newish here, I was wondering, are there any coders that would be interested in working with an artist?

[uncut viper]

there is also RejectItem_ that can also do context tags

[brittle pasture]

check out Data/TV/CookingChannel.json. Though I don't think you can cleanly rename a dictionary entry with Content Patcher?

[uncut viper]

you cant rename dictionary keys period

you can only remove and readd

[brittle pasture]

yeah, I'm wondering because changing the recipe order would be trivial with C#, but that isn't exposed by CP unless you're fine with duplicating the vanilla strings

[stoic spindle]

i'm fairly new to modding, csci student rn so i will poke around and see

[brittle pasture]

!commissions though what kind of code are you talking about?

[ocean sail]

If you're looking for people who do mod commissions (either art or code), here's a wiki page with a non-comprehensive list of people who do them: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions

To use this command, type !commissions.

[uncut viper]

tbf you'd be duplicating the strings in C# too. alas though CP still doesnt have a Copy action or anythin like it

so you would be out of luck

out of luck with CP anyway
if you're comfortable with C# then yeah you can do it

just familiarize yourself with the content pipeline

[pale harness]

hii i just started modding

would be cool partnering

[stoic spindle]

seems like its just the text

[uncut viper]

that dictionary of strings to text is what controls the cooking channel

[stoic spindle]

but i will poke around and see what else is in the tv

[brittle pasture]

the number at the beginning is what week the recipe will show up

[stoic spindle]

seems like I have some reading to do on how all this works

[uncut viper]

the cooking channel is very not friendly to editing compared to a lot of other things

[stoic spindle]

thats unfortunate; i just wanted to edit the order so recipes that are friendlier in year 1 are able to be made

[brittle pasture]

if you can shift those numbers around you can control when the recipe shows up, though as mentioned there's no easy way to change a key while keeping the value with CP alone

C# is your best bet

[versed wyvern]

Can he not achieve what he wants by just doing EditData on two entries he wants to switch around, or is it just a matter of compatibility issues

[uncut viper]

he would have to copy the entire vanilla string for both entries. for all languages. and ruin anyone elses edits to those entries, too, if theyve made any

[versed wyvern]

Ah, the languages bit does make that seem like a sticky situation

[uncut viper]

it would be doable with i18n tokens easily, just annoying, and the entire thing is just inherently incompatible with anything else that touches those entries. all of these things would be non-issues with C#

(or very very unlikely to be an issue)

[stoic spindle]

i would assume not much actually touches those entries in the first place

[uncut viper]

well, you yourself are!

[stoic spindle]

but im not too sure; i feel like i need to do a lot of reading, it would be my first mod

[uncut viper]

if you already have programming experience and either know C# or can pick it up quickly, it would be a very easy mod to do

[versed wyvern]

If this is for personal use only also feel free to do whatever

Compatibility's primarily a concern for when you toss it out there to the masses and suddenly you have people finding incompatibilities and thinking a mod has a bug

[stoic spindle]

another concern is i want to add it to a modpack

but that is for future me to deal with and troubleshoot

[versed wyvern]

Definitely sounds like you ought to go the extra mile for compatibility then

[stoic spindle]

at some point i think doing it via save editing is easier though lol

considering im just doing it for my partner and i

oh well

[versed wyvern]

Well then that sounds like personal use

[uncut viper]

if the mod is only going to be used for your partner and you, then its absolutely easier to do a quick content patcher edit

[stoic spindle]

i'll do some reading on the content patcher wiki page tonight and see what i can put together

[versed wyvern]

There may also already be mods that give alternate ways of learning the Queen recipes that would be functionally just as good

[stoic spindle]

seems like NexusMods is fairly dry on queen of sauce mods

also nexus is down (?) maybe

[versed wyvern]

Yeah I think something's breaking at the moment

[stoic spindle]

oh well

Seems like there's not many mods for restructuring Queen of Sauce recipes

[chrome mountain]

yea it's down for me as well

[versed wyvern]

Not dealing with the channel itself, but there may be mods that allow you to buy or otherwise earn the recipes it would have taught you
(I see there's a buyable recipes mod dating back to 2017 but can't see the comments to see if it's still working with Nexus in this state)

[brittle pasture]

vanilla 1.6 also has a book that straight up gives you every recipe

though it is late game only

[stoic spindle]

Yeah, the problem wasnt obtaining recipes, it was the order of which the player recieves them; for example, an early spring recipe is Coleslaw that requires red cabbage, a year 2 crop

I wanted to restructure the order of which you obtain recipes so for example, you may get Carp Surprise for the first recipe

A lot of the Queen of Sauce recipes aren't necessarily helpful early on, so I wanted to make them more useful

[versed wyvern]

Yeah, I'm just saying sometimes you can achieve the same kind of end goal through a roundabout means with different mods

[stoic spindle]

I think i'll end up just editing the save file to have all cooking recipes unlocked at the start, I didn't expect the TV to be fickle and I don't necessarily want to run for compatability for a personal playthrough

[uncut viper]

if you're gonna do that you might as well just spawn in the book

[stoic spindle]

oh ya u can do that

[rancid temple]

Safer too

[latent mauve]

I mean, alternatively, you could make a mod that provides an alternate way to learn those particular recipes that you think should be earlier? (Letters, etc)

I'm sure Gus could be nudged to share a few recipes...

[hot sorrel]

Hey, in 1.5 stardew I had a mod that changes the portrait of characters I will send example.
I want now to use it in 1.6 but I cant since The mod needed another one called HD Portraits and its no longer useable in 1.6...
Can someone guide me pls or send me video on how can I use it/fix it for 1.6?
Example:

[velvet narwhal]

portraiture probably still works -op can't link it because nexus is dead

[hot sorrel]

I tried and open it but it didnt let me cause its requiring the other mod...

[velvet narwhal]

just open up that original mod, yoink the what i assume are called Mister Qi.png images, put it into the portraiture folder

like open up the original mod from your mod folder* it probably has a folder called assets*

[versed wyvern]

If the original mod hasn't been updated since 1.6 released it's probably also missing all the regular villagers' winter outfits now too

[hot sorrel]

yeah ik but I can just move those to the stardew assests it wont like destroy the game or sth?

[velvet narwhal]

...no? just put a . in front of the old mod folder name* that you're yoinking these .pngs from and you're fine

and i'm not saying move these into the stardew folder, move them into the portraiture folder

[hot sorrel]

yeah ik but its fine if just in winter I will see regular or not see the outfits

[versed wyvern]

Well, go look up Portraiture like Jamore says when Nexus is back then, there should be instructions on the mod page about where to copy the HD portraits

[rancid temple]

Portraiture doesn't scale the original images up

Rather than seeing normal portraits in winter, you'll see nothing

Also Demetrius's special outfit comes up blank too, found that out the hard way

[versed wyvern]

They could, however, make copies of the default portraits titled name_Winter and then they should just be wearing normal clothes year-round like before 1.6

[rancid temple]

Yeah

[hot sorrel]

yeah thats what I was about to ask lol

[rancid temple]

Portraiture also doesn't handle sprites, not sure if the original mod did

There is Sprites In Detail, more work though

[versed wyvern]

Doubt it, there were very few sprite upscaling attempts

[rancid temple]

Ah

[stoic spindle]

ended up sending an email to CA about the recipe order, hope it gets to them

[uncut viper]

wh... what?

[velvet narwhal]

wh huh

[versed wyvern]

[stoic spindle]

oh this

sorry

[uncut viper]

right, but... why

[stoic spindle]

the thing I wanted to make a mod for earlier

[uncut viper]

you can also get red cabbage year 1?

[stoic spindle]

sure, but only if you're lucky

[velvet narwhal]

[hot sorrel]

wait all the images has like "Abigail.png" or like "Abigail_Beach.png" or sth
it is in the mod folder under the folder "assets"
Now I gotta dupe the files for and add winter
and after that where do I move the "assets" folder?

[latent mauve]

There is literally a toggle and it puts it in the traveling cart.

[stoic spindle]

i dont think sending an email to CA is a bad thing

[uncut viper]

well no, you can also guarantee it in your save options, and it can also be gained from the skull cavern

[velvet narwhal]

my brother under yoba's teaching, what?

[uncut viper]

i just dont know what you hope to accomplish with it

[stoic spindle]

its not that im like, "going to the manager" type of thing

[versed wyvern]

You're gonna want to go get https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/999, there are instructions on how to use portraits with it and other questions about how to use it may be better suited for #1272025932932055121

[stoic spindle]

i think the game can be improved upon with something like the recipe order, and if that email gets opened and things get changed, sure, thats cool

[rancid temple]

There's like a section on the forums for suggesting improvements

[stoic spindle]

but its not like im gunning for it

oh thats nice

idk i just saw the email first

[rancid temple]

CA doesn't have the time or energy to field randos asking for stuff

[stoic spindle]

I figured as much

[rancid temple]

There's like a whole team for this game now

[stoic spindle]

Yeah

hence, why i emailed, its not necessarily going directly to them

[fossil osprey]

Idea: when you collect all ingredients for a recipe for the first time, you "have the idea" for the recipe, kinda like animal crossing did it
That way, all recipe you get "yourself" are useful because you have the ingredients

[uncut viper]

either way i suppose that makes this not very mod making related at this point

[versed wyvern]

I do think a way to get recipes more naturally (and earlier) would be useful

[hot sorrel]

ok thanks! I will try!

[stoic spindle]

yeah that would be cool

[versed wyvern]

But cooking as a whole is also kind of an afterthought

[rancid temple]

You can use CP to make the recipes available earlier

[stoic spindle]

i enjoy cooking in this game, i just wish it was accessible earlier with the recipe order

[versed wyvern]

All these varied foods need more reason to exist before the recipes being available would serve much gameplay purpose

[rancid temple]

Just not through the TV

There's a lot of other ways to get recipes

[versed wyvern]

Like, why make Carp Surprise when I can turn them into sashimi x4

[uncut viper]

and even then, you still can do it through the TV. it just wont be compatible with other queen of sauce editing mods

potentially

[rancid temple]

Only reason is for Perfection

[stoic spindle]

Carp Surprise would be a great stepping stone for early game

turning 50 something energy into 90

but its unlocked all the way in year 2 lol

it sounds like a great first recipe from queen of sauce

but yeah i figured its not worth the time to make a mod and make it compatible with every other mod i have installed if its for personal use

[rancid temple]

90% of my CP mods are for personal use

[versed wyvern]

Well we did say if it was for personal use you're perfectly fine just doing the EditData on two entries swapping them around thing

[velvet narwhal]

💯 of my mods are for personal use

[uncut viper]

it's also not something you COULD make 100% compatible without C#. you can just choose to accept that if someone else edits those same TV recipes that users will need to pick you or the other person

or if you are the other person, you know exactly which mod you need to add compatibility for, and it's probably only one mod if anything

If you are the user* I meant

to be clear, no one meant to give the impression that if you do it with CP, you will 100% have an incompatibility issue with anything

you just have the possibility of one if you have another mod that edits the TV

in all likelihood you would have to do literally nothing for compatibility

[ancient marten]

mod idea: mod that does a fnaf jumpscare everytime a panning spot appears

[rotund elm]

Are foraging spots added by the paths.png/another tilesheet or is the spawnable property all that is needed?

[velvet narwhal]

afaik it should just be the map property, for more finesse you'd need FTM though

[rotund elm]

Ok awesome thanks!

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/4d740f5b7b5444508453550ce6a0e892

Also just to jog my memory, this would be how I add forage to a location or one way of adding forage there right?

[velvet narwhal]

looks... right...

[rotund elm]

Thanks XD

[brave fable]

errrr every queen of sauce recipe, or every recipe in the game?

[versed wyvern]

I'm pretty sure it's just Queen recipes specifically

Ape might have put it in specifically to address that the Perfection speedrun was timegated behind her in 1.5

[velvet narwhal]

Dictionary<string, string> dictionary = DataLoader.Tv_CookingChannel(Game1.content);
int num = 0;
foreach (KeyValuePair<string, string> s in dictionary)
{
    if (Game1.player.cookingRecipes.TryAdd(s.Value.Split("/")[0], 0))
    {
        num++;
    }
}
Game1.player.stats.Increment(base.itemId.Value);
Game1.showGlobalMessage(Game1.content.LoadString("Strings\\1_6_Strings:QoS_Cookbook", num.ToString() ?? ""));```
my brain is too flat to read this right now, but it's after the check `if (!(text == "Book_QueenOfSauce"))`

[next quarry]

looks like it's just the Tv_CookingChannel recipes to me

[fierce oak]

Soo just want to ask, where can I start to make my own map? Not like make my own, I just want to edit a already exist farm in the vanilla

[calm nebula]

!mapmaking

[ocean sail]

If you want to make mods that add or edit maps:

1. Use Tiled to edit .tmx or .tbin files.

2. Refer to the Maps wiki page for details on how maps work in Stardew Valley.

3. Content Patcher allows you to create custom locations through editing Data/Locations

4. Vanilla Maps can be edited via Content Patcher as well: EditMap

To use this command, type !mapmaking.

[topaz zenith]

Guys im scope creeping again

[versed wyvern]

Well then stahp

Or scope creep twice as hard in defiance, I dunno

[topaz zenith]

double the scope

[next quarry]

more power!

[hard fern]

i finished scripting one event... sigh

pain

[somber walrus]

Hello hi I have talked before on the server sometime last year about my mod? I have decided its best to ask someone for help. is anyone willing to do a commisson for me on a heart event for my npc character? I havent touched my mod for a long time as I was quite discourged. I tried to find someone on google but I wasnt sure who to talk to. :/

[unreal spoke]

!comms has a list of people who do commissions. Not sure if there are event creators, but taking a look can’t hurt.

[ocean sail]

If you're looking for people who do mod commissions (either art or code), here's a wiki page with a non-comprehensive list of people who do them: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions

To use this command, type !comms.

[somber walrus]

thank you very much. 🙂

[topaz zenith]

Does anybody wanna listen to me brainstorm

I have brainstorming to do🙏

[hallow prism]

remember we can also help for free but this mean you doing the main work however

(so i get why commissions may be better, just want to refresh you on the other options available)

[topaz zenith]

well yeah LOL

[vernal crest]

Lumi was talking to Eniitime

[topaz zenith]

OH NB

MB

I’m thinking on like building her relationships with the other characters a bit since the village seems to have pre established friendships and stuff

She probably has atleast a little friendly backround with Robin cuz axe fixing and probably fixing stuff for her husband too

She probably fixed ||Sebastian’s motorcycle|| atleast once?

[somber walrus]

@hallow prism my brain fried by the end of doing it. the last thing I remmeber was trying to activate the heart event and....I didnt come close. so I rather have someone else do it. :/

[topaz zenith]

Like my Npc might have woodworking, blacksmith, and some mechanic experience from schooling and past jobs?

Since she’s 36-40 she has plenty of time to build skills.

[hallow prism]

that is fair! triggering an heart event with debug command should be easy when the event exist, but conditions can be complex

[topaz zenith]

I’ll make my npcs sprites after the artist I paid finishes her ref sheet

I wanna wait till I have a good reference point

The artist said I can base my sprites on the ref sheet so that’s good

[somber walrus]

@hallow prism yup... that's the word complex

[topaz zenith]

As long as I credit in mod description he said it’s fine to use the sheet since it is my character he just drew it lol

Also should I use stardew style sprites or are non pixel sprites fine too

Like would it ruin immersion to use non pixel sprites?

[vernal crest]

By sprites do you mean the overworld sprite or portraits, Susan?

[tiny zealot]

for me, yes, but immersion is a personal question

[topaz zenith]

Portraits

Her overworld sprites would be atleast kind of stardew styled

[tiny zealot]

also if you don't stick to vanilla pixel sizes you will have to hard-require a framework to get around the limit

[topaz zenith]

Maybe if I share her as a “test” mod her sprites won’t be pixel it depends

Might also pay somebody to make sprites if I struggle

[vernal crest]

Like ichor, I do not personally enjoy using portraits that are not Stardew-style or at least a style of 64x64 pixel art, but plenty of people enjoy HD portraits.

[topaz zenith]

I don’t enjoy making HD lol

[somber walrus]

to explain briefly on the project I was working on. I wanted my npc character to have a heart event similar to Emily. so I worked on it myself. then when it started to get to coding the event that's when things got hard. I made the script but I think I might have missed something. and I couldn't figure it out.

[hard fern]

wdym "similar to emily"? she has multiple heart events

[somber walrus]

the dancing one XD

[hard fern]

ah

[vernal crest]

But that's what non-pixel portraits are?

[topaz zenith]

OH

Her sprites and portraits are being done absolutely last

Because the artist hasn’t finished her ref sheet yet so I can’t work off it properly

I’ll design her alternative outfits too after

She has some for every season, sprites for a wedding dress(there’s a scene where she tries her wedding dress on again), and for events

[vernal crest]

How have you been going with getting the code (json - I assume you're not doing C#?) started for her?

[topaz zenith]

I haven’t started

I’m doing dialogue and general brainstorming first, rhen MAYBE her sprites of the ref sheets done

The code would need to wait till I have a longer period of time for school and such

I’ll probably work on her having a half functioning schedule first

[latent mauve]

It might be good to brainstorm events alongside the dialogue if you are going to do them, because you can often have dialogue conversation topics that are a direct response to events, which will help fill things out a bit more.

[topaz zenith]

Yeah!

[latent mauve]

And by that, I just mean what kind of events the NPC might have, if any, and what/where that might be. Nothing too fancy at this stage.

[vernal crest]

That's fair enough! The code part is definitely a fair bit of work but if you already have the whole character ready to go and just need to write the code to actually implement her it will probably be pretty straightforward.

[topaz zenith]

her early events are just establishing her marriage and her other relationships

Since typically I learn the marriage status of a person first

The overworld sprites are gonna be my demise bro 😭

[vernal crest]

I've found the overworld sprites to be somewhat tedious because of the repetition but once you get a body shape down doing the clothing isn't too bad.

[topaz zenith]

I need to make feast of winter star dialogue but

I forgot exactly what npcs are dialogue triggered by

[topaz zenith]

yeahhh hopefully it won’t be that bad

[hallow prism]

my advice would be : work on basic stuff, and keep the fancy stuff as occasional reward

[topaz zenith]

Yeahh

I’m trying to not creep scope LOL

I need lore building questions to work off of

[vernal crest]

I honestly don't know how people manage to make an NPC quickly

I've been working on Hiria for 6 months and I still feel like I don't know her well enough to write more events or anything for her

[topaz zenith]

I wanna work slow and build lore slow

[hard fern]

this is like... month 3? 4? and i'm "close" to being finished

[topaz zenith]

I need her personality and story before I make her sprites

Her clothing should match somewhat to her pre established style and stuff

[hard fern]

by close, i mean, it's almost done enough that i can try a playthrough with my npc

[tiny zealot]

lacey took five, but that was to get to minimum viable product. i've continued to work on her (in fits and starts) since release

[topaz zenith]

I have to do less stuff since mines already married

So there’s no hassle for spouse dialogue etc

[hard fern]

my current enemy is just rewriting my dialogue (not a full rewrite, just tweaking it to adjust to their "voice")

[tiny zealot]

you won't have to write marriage dialogue but that was not a big portion of my mod. i think you'll find there's plenty to do

[gentle rose]

ngl as soon as I get on my pc I’m about to absolutely speedrun making an npc. Joke mods are the best

[topaz zenith]

My npc speaks with a lot of “slang” sometimes

[hard fern]

and 2 more heart events, one of which is already half written out in notepad XD

[topaz zenith]

she intentionally speaks in a way that is cringe sometimes

Some of her dialogue lines are just intentionally cringey LOL

[hallow prism]

it depends of a lot of things

[gentle rose]

his schedule will be standing in one spot. His heart events are all going to be in that same spot and one sentence long. I may commission art just for the joke of it all but also I’m broke

[hallow prism]

tia said something like 2 weeks for jort and jeans (initial) and more than two years for wren?

[topaz zenith]

My npcs schedule involves the blacksmith unless it’s a holiday, or if she’s working on other tasks

[gentle rose]

what’s a “normal” price range for a stardew portrait art commission?

[topaz zenith]

Her schedule SOMEWHAT depends on Clint being in town so the mod will conflict with mods that change/remove Clint

[hard fern]

😔 i should stop getting ideas for npcs

[hallow prism]

!commissions

[topaz zenith]

Plus

[ocean sail]

If you're looking for people who do mod commissions (either art or code), here's a wiki page with a non-comprehensive list of people who do them: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions

To use this command, type !commissions.

[hallow prism]

you can see some stuff

[topaz zenith]

Why would you download a Clint wife npc if you don’t want Clint

[hallow prism]

but portraits are usually 40+ i would say

[gentle rose]

I assume in dollars and per portait

that’s… a lot but also would be so funny to do

[odd ginkgo]

tbh for dialogue I was looking at the vanilla NPCs and they are SO standoffish until like 3-4 hearts. Shane basically reveals nothing about himself and tells you to leave him alone for 3 hearts, while Marnie gives you all the backstory on him

[gentle rose]

tbf, that’s just shane being shane

[topaz zenith]

Yeahh

[odd ginkgo]

truue

[mortal stag]

gents. does anyone know how weapon levels work in stardew. the modding:weapons page did not enlighten

[hallow prism]

expressions are often an add on to the price because they use the same base

[tiny zealot]

per sheet, i would think. four to six expressions seems like a reasonable baseline since you wouldn't have much to work with otherwise (but also i don't know a lot about commissionees' habits)

[gentle rose]

aren’t they kind of meaningless? I could be wrong but that’s what I thought

[hallow prism]

it also depend of the artist, because some people do portraits for people that don't make mod

so they don't need more than one expression

[mortal stag]

it is now extraordinaly meaningful after 1.6, as stardew will automatically add extra bonuses to weapons under level 15

[tiny zealot]

ah, fair point by lumina as usual

[gentle rose]

idk how many expressions blorbo will need tbh

[vernal crest]

I remind myself of Wren every time I start feeling too bad about Hiria!

[hallow prism]

but usually it's one portrait (with or without some variations in expression)+extra expression being a small price addition

[gentle rose]

as always, I’m oout of date with post-1.6 stuff ig haha

[mortal stag]

I have a weapon that deals 700 damage however it is under level 15 somehow so the game dropped it with +6 speed or something crazy...

[topaz zenith]

I’m thinking of a name for my npc

[mortal stag]

it was quite balanced without that

[topaz zenith]

Since her current name is placeholder

[tiny zealot]

seven... hundred

[hallow prism]

i created the VMV mod page the 18 September 2021

i released it this year

i created mod page while i already had some content ready

so... it gives an order of idea 😄

[gentle rose]

I need to play vmv. also I need to ask you some questions about how you handle player events in vmv but I can’t remember what they are rn

[tiny zealot]

lumina i remember when VMV was released i did a spit take at how low its nexus ID was /lh

[mortal stag]

on a crit. it does like 75 base damage with a multiplier. it's supposed to be a slow, high critting hammer

but game made it fast

[odd ginkgo]

I changed my NPCs name three times...

[topaz zenith]

I want my npcs name to be more of a Slavic name rather than a Hebrew one

[gentle rose]

all I know is that vmv seems to be using conditions in a way that makes my mod think events are ready to trigger when they aren’t, and it’s pretty much just vmv doing it. But it’s been a while since I had a look at why

I’m fluent in Hebrew and somehow never realised Susan is a hebrew name it’s pretty different to the root word Shoshana tbf

[topaz zenith]

LOL

[gentle rose]

learn something new every day ig. Also in Hebrew, shoshana is like an old lady name rn lol

like my grandma’s generation

[topaz zenith]

My ocs homeland is inspired by Russia and other places in the same continent BUT it isn’t called a real world place

so it’s a fictional land based on irl places

[mortal stag]

actually the wiki is wrong about the level 15 thing because my item is level 16 and it stlil got the extra enhancements

[gray bear]

is susan a hebrew name??

[topaz zenith]

Yes..

[gray bear]

wait is it one of those cases where it's from the bible

[gentle rose]

apparently so. It comes from the Hebrew word Shoshana meaning a lily

[gray bear]

god i think it might be... then again so is mine

[topaz zenith]

A lot of the most common names are actually Hebrew

[gentle rose]

Shoshana - Susana - Susan

[gray bear]

see that makes sense yet i never linked those together

[gentle rose]

anything ending in -el or -ya is typically Hebrew

[topaz zenith]

Her name might stay as Susan/Suesanna or I’ll give her a Slavic inspired name

[gray bear]

also shosashna means rose

[topaz zenith]

Suesanna is a correct spelling for the name Susanna lol

[gray bear]

wait,

[topaz zenith]

There’s a few correct spellings for the same name

[vernal crest]

You're right, you do need to play VMV! It is fantastic.

[gentle rose]

shoshana is rose (my bad), shoshan is lily

[topaz zenith]

LOL

I am so torn between calling her Suesanna or Svetlana

[gray bear]

so i'm not crazy! huzzah

[topaz zenith]

Svetlana or Avdotya

[gray bear]

altho that is confusing, but than again hebrew just kinda is-

[gentle rose]

also you have some extra sh’s there haha. Sho-sha-na

[topaz zenith]

Chat help

[gentle rose]

accidental ping, sorry

[gray bear]

[topaz zenith]

Suesanna or one for these two

Of*

[gray bear]

spelling is hard. anyhow-

[ornate trellis]

[gray bear]

Susan, would you like a thread made so oragnize your thoughts? It'll be a good way to make sure you have all the info you need in one place

hey void

[topaz zenith]

Mayhaps lol but also I’d lose it rlly quick LOL

[gentle rose]

שושנה

just spell it like that, easy! /lh

[ornate trellis]

hi bea :3

[topaz zenith]

I have a bunch of names I wanna do but eee

[vernal crest]

That is pretty but the...first...? three characters (RTL right?) look like an owl looking left!

[gray bear]

see while i do have hebrew on my keyboard i don't have stickers on my keyboard so must of the time i'm typing blindly

[vernal crest]

Hiria's name has been totally constant since I chose it but I have rewritten her backstory three times so far.

[gray bear]

i should really, get those stickers lest i forget important letter location

[gray bear]

you can follow it so it's always there! it's very handy

[gentle rose]

I’m on mobile rn but on pc I’m the same

[vernal crest]

I should follow my thread, it has disappeared again

[gentle rose]

on mobile I also have greek, bc maths degree lmao

[gray bear]

it's a good thing my memory stores the location of hebrew letters on my keyboard, for reasons unknown

[topaz zenith]

Dumps name ideas cutely /j

[gray bear]

would've made school harder if it didn't

[gentle rose]

I still remember them vaguely and I haven’t been using hebrew with any regularity since I was 10 lmao

it takes more tries now though

[gray bear]

bro i used to write fanfics in hebrew this is off topic!

[hallow prism]

feel free to ping me when you do 🙂

[topaz zenith]

I should find a comically hard to pronounce for English speakers name

[gentle rose]

SAME yes it is

[hard fern]

😭

[gray bear]

i mean, why tho

[hallow prism]

when i took the id for the tilesheet mod i was like "oh, ok i must take the next one for VMV, it'll be easy to remember"

[topaz zenith]

why not lol

It would make fun dialogue with other npcs

[lament shell]

people pronounce holland wrong sometimes so it doesnt even have to be comically hard

[topaz zenith]

Of them just saying her name wrong LOL

Yevdokiya? Idk if that works well hmm

the comically hard to pronounce name thing was a joke btw

Maybe a name that fits her personality would be better

[fading walrus]

I'm not sure that's the nicest thing to do, even as a joke
If you're (jokingly or not) intentionally giving her a name that's "hard for anglophones to pronounce" it's just making fun of the real struggles people have getting people to say their name correctly 😅

[topaz zenith]

it wasn’t gonna be given based on that lol

it was a joke that I would but I won’t

She lacks a proper name yet because I have no clue how to name somebody LOL

[gentle rose]

personally as someone with an unpronounceable name I’m on the fence about that kind of joke, it can be funny if done right but a lot of ways of doing it will just lead to me judging the hell out of whoever wrote it lmao. Idk if I’d be offended per se, I’d just roll my eyes. But that’s obviously my personal opinion, not representative

[topaz zenith]

I named previous ocs based on names I thought sounded good to the ear, alongside whatever naming convention I wanted to use

[topaz zenith]

Yeahhh. My actual name has never been pronounced “correctly” by non family so I wanted to put SOME of that into dialogue but not a lot

[vernal crest]

I love unpronounceable names. I'm still unsure whether I should've used my unpronounceable middle name as my first name or not.

[topaz zenith]

Not as a making fun thing

Just a “it’s actually pronounced like this” type passing dialogue between two npcs

[gentle rose]

the thing is, that’s very tricky to convey in text anyway

[topaz zenith]

Yeahh sadly

it would be so much easier if there was voice acting LOL

[gentle rose]

without ending up writing “it’s pronounced susan not susan”

[topaz zenith]

Her name won’t stay Susan forever lol

[gentle rose]

(replace with whichever name you actually use)

[topaz zenith]

It’s just Susan rn because it’s an easy for remember placeholder

[tiny zealot]

i bypassed this whole npc naming process by having it chosen for me in advance. easy mode

[topaz zenith]

maybe instead of the name thing I’ll have dialogue where an Npc gives my Npc a nickname

And she doesn’t like it

“What if I call you polar bear” “I would hate that very much” type it reaction

[hard fern]

😭 absolutely nobody can pronounce my name right, but i don't quite blame them because it's not really a sound that most english speakers can even say

[gentle rose]

use a d20 and a d8 to roll letters, easy

[topaz zenith]

My irl friends I discussed my oc with call her polar bear because she likes wearing a lot of fur LOL

[tiny zealot]

in the expansion i'm NOT working on, i have a whole list of names lined up so i'll probably choose from there (in the future). or maybe i won't, who knows what will happen

[fading walrus]

Oh I meant more like
People not even trying and then making fun of your name, y'know?

[vernal crest]

Naming is always easy for me because I never want to give an NPC a name that isn't appropriate to their culture any more than I wanted to choose a name for myself that was from a culture I don't belong to. Unless the appropriative name was part of what I was exploring for the NPC, I guess.

[hard fern]

oh yeah, that's happened too 😭

[gentle rose]

does anyone else ever think about how to correctly combine dice to get a uniformly random number in a certain range

[gray bear]

do clarify?

[tiny zealot]

👀 i spend much more time than is probably average thinking about this sort of thing

[fading walrus]

My name is spelt wrong on my driver's licence in my native language because the guy phonetically mistranslated the English spelling, fun fact 😭

[hard fern]

naming is... easy? in the since of i choose the name first, and then build the character around it 🤔 sometimes i just really want an npc to have a certain name

[topaz zenith]

Man

I need her a name bro

[gentle rose]

tbh it’s gotten to the point where I’m tired of shows doing the “I’ll just call you (replacement name)” thing bc it’s clear that’s the only experience of having an unpronounceable name that they know and aren’t willing to actually think beyond that

[lament shell]

i get hayland a lot, or haleand. its a bit silly sometimes

[gray bear]

i like names with meaning

[gentle rose]

like, how do you use dice to get a random number from 1 to 26 without some being likelier than others, for example

[gray bear]

but then again that's not to say every name needs to say something the character

my name means... red

[topaz zenith]

Actually wait polar bear as a nickname COULD fit my Oc wait

Since she wears fur a lot in the winter and has two kids who she acts like a mother bear to, and she prefers cold climates, it could be a reasonable nickname

[gray bear]

i... have no idea, sorry

[round dock]

Hi, just wanted to jump in and ask, if you're debugging eventSeen_memory dialogue, they're supposed to go under Characters/Dialogue right? Trying to playtest rn and it isn't loading well gah

[gentle rose]

you can’t actually just add a d20 and a d6 because it isn’t possible to get 1 like that. You’d have to add a d20 and a d8 minus one, and reroll the d8 whenever you get 8

[topaz zenith]

And in her home land there’s polar bears (it’s based on real places but its fictional so I can give them more details)

[vernal crest]

Yeah they're dialogue keys Claire. What's not working? Can you try using debug loaddialogue? You'd probably? have to have seen the event first (but maybe not, never tried)

[topaz zenith]

Clint calling her polar bear would be cute actually 😭

[gentle rose]

(and it still makes some numbers more likely than the others, that’s just how you cover the full range)

[round dock]

Redirecting this in our shadow realm brb

[hard fern]

(the shadow realm...)

[vernal crest]

I enjoy thinking about things like this but I am not very good at it lol

[topaz zenith]

Chat

Is polar bear an offensive nickname like genuine question

[gentle rose]

…depends who for

[topaz zenith]

My npc

[gentle rose]

it absolutely could be for a very northern character

[gray bear]

i'd uh need more context i think

[gentle rose]

but it depends

[fading walrus]

I'd probably look at literature from the region you're taking inspiration from

[topaz zenith]

I was thinking she could be called that by some people based on her preference for cold weather, her mother bear nature, her winter clothing, and the fact her homeland has polar bears which she seemingly likes

[gentle rose]

like, if you call an inuit character polar bear, that’s… probably suspect. Same with some russian characters

[fading walrus]

Books should be a great source of nicknames

[rough valve]

What are the item ids for the AHM meats? I am trying to add them to a custom shop.

[vernal crest]

Unless one of us happens to have the cultural knowledge necessary to answer in the affirmative, I think you will need to google it because if we say no that doesn't help you much because we don't represent all the possible cultures in the world

[topaz zenith]

Yeahh probably. I’m probably gonna do a few diff regions as inspo so not jsut one

[fading walrus]

Specifically authors from those regions

[vernal crest]

You can find them by looking through the mod files of AHM (which I assume is a mod)

[topaz zenith]

Oh apparently it’s a derogatory term for a parent

[gentle rose]

I’d say if it’s a super obvious and region-based nickname you should probably be careful

[topaz zenith]

It’s not rlly region based

It’s just based on how she acts dresses and the fact she likes the animal LOL

[light bramble]

My when in a content patcher mod.

    "Cheese Amount": "3, 4, 5"
}```
This is the corresponding area where `"Cheese Amount"` is defined(?)
```"Cheese Amount": {
    "AllowValues": "2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8",
    "Default": "2",
    "Description": "The amount of normal cheese you get when crafting from a Large Cheese",
    "Section": "Splitting"
}```
Is this correct syntax?

[gentle rose]

also, don’t just look for literature from the area, it’s probably worth looking at literature from english-speaking diaspora originating in the area too bc they will have had different experiences

[fading walrus]

And that!

[topaz zenith]

yeah will do

[fading walrus]

Cheese json spotted

[hard fern]

🤔 it... looks, correct? to me, anyways.

[topaz zenith]

The only thing Google said is that it’s usually used to describe parents that don’t fit the normal mother bear/mother dad description

[light bramble]

Concern...HANDS OFF MY CHEEEEEEEEEESE

[topaz zenith]

Since polar bears are generally the most aggressive member of their biological lineage

But typically polar bears are only aggressive to outside things so not their own children

[fading walrus]

Where's that dancing rat emote when I need it

[lament shell]

[hard fern]

omg

rats

[fading walrus]

Ty holland

[light bramble]

You know... 2024-2025 is a bunch of firsts for me...

[topaz zenith]

Yeah so the names generally fine if it’s not used to describe somebody’s parenting (form what I read from a few sources)

[light bramble]

Early 2024 I started work on an NPC mod, first ever time doing it. And now late 2024-early 2025 I'm adding ITEMS to the game

for the first time

[gray bear]

evolution

[topaz zenith]

If we’re talking my npcs way of behaving at low hearts it could also fit just based on that alone

[gentle rose]

if she’s meant to be vaguely russian, I’d say your safest bet is to just ask some russian people how they feel about it tbh lol

[light bramble]

And yet my first code mod was made in 2023 and never posted to nexus...because it sucked

[hard fern]

😭 2024-2025 is when im finally being more serious about modding

i had never tried anything bigger than just a little JA mod

[light bramble]

it ebbs and flows for me XD

[topaz zenith]

yeah I know a few who live in Russia and are Russian and they said to just make double sure it’s not being sued in a derogatory way

[gray bear]

realizes i have no idea when i published TSP

[topaz zenith]

Used*

[tight rivet]

it's always fun to see a mod update go 'please reset terrain features'

[topaz zenith]

Which the nickname isn’t rlly used by other npcs in a bad way

It’s generally used as a positive nickname for my npc

[gray bear]

h

[rough valve]

AHM is short for animal husbandry mod. I could only find the names, edibility values and prices of all the meats but no item id. Just putting the meat's name as a item for my custom shop does not work, resulting in a error item.

[topaz zenith]

So the same vibe as calling somebody a teddy bear

[hard fern]

🤔

[gray bear]

I think you need the ID of the item for those

[light bramble]

My first mod was made feb 16, 2020. Dog substitution....I remade that one to N3rd's Pets

[hard fern]

so what happens when there's no item ID... hm

[gray bear]

there's always an item id

[hallow prism]

show what you found for those?

they likely use numerical ids

[brittle pasture]

you can look up ingame with Lookup Anything + enable data mining fields

[gray bear]

ah

[light bramble]

My second mod was made four days after and is hidden on nexus... Updated Greenhouse

[round dock]

Lumi, quick question, you can def debug conversation CTs, right?

[topaz zenith]

To be honest my ocs nickname would be used as like the same kinda vibe as calling somebody “dear” or “hun”

[gray bear]

i forgot AHM is quite an older mod

[odd ginkgo]

hmm looks like my first mod was published July, 2020... and then I didn't publish a mod again until March 2024 haha!

[hallow prism]

hu no idea claire

[rigid musk]

So I want to have Mr.Qi go to his walnut room - in order to do that ... well how would I do that really? would I set another home to happen with like... a when condition? Because him traveling from his room in the casino all the way to the island sounds like a literal nightmare (and honestly kinda impossible ish)

[hallow prism]

maybe with debug actions

[light bramble]

Like look at this thing

[round dock]

Trying to debug eventSeen_memory dialogue rn and something seems off, thank you Lumina! ❤️

[light bramble]

It's also the era where I had pink theme instead of purple

[topaz zenith]

oh I’m so excited to design my npcs winter outfits

They’re very cute

[rough valve]

This is what I found from a file inside the mod named "meats":
{ "Beef": { "Price": 100, "Edibility": 15 }, "Pork": { "Price": 1250, "Edibility": 30 }, "Chicken": { "Price": 250, "Edibility": 15 }, "Duck": { "Price": 400, "Edibility": 20 }, "Rabbit": { "Price": 2500, "Edibility": 20 }, "Mutton": { "Price": 650, "Edibility": 20 }, "Ostrich": { "Price": 10500, "Edibility": 60 } }

[rigid musk]

ive never hidden any of my mods... even my cursed 'gunther is furniture' one

[topaz zenith]

aren’t baby bears called cubs

[gray bear]

yes

[rigid musk]

yes

[topaz zenith]

my npc calling her kids her cubs occasionally would be cute

[hard fern]

ive hidden like half my mods bc outdated and old XD

[tight rivet]

I've hidden a few because they were replaced, but I think my first ones came out in 2017

[gentle rose]

gunther is furniture????

[light bramble]

I used to put a spindle in all my mods...hidden JUUUUUSt out of sight

[topaz zenith]

But she’d call them that in the same convo she’s called smthng related to bears

[gray bear]

AHM ... doesn't use CP to add it's items,,,

[hard fern]

oughh... JA mod, huh

[gray bear]

nope???

[round dock]

Patch parse worked thank you you’re amazing @vernal crest

[topaz zenith]

So she’s called polar bear and in the same convo she refers to her kids as her cubs but she doesn’t call them her cubs in a convo it wouldn’t make sense for

[gentle rose]

one of the non-joke mods I sant to make is a bunch of crafty stuff

[hard fern]

wait what

is it done in C#?

[gray bear]

it seems like it, i think

[hallow prism]

it's not enough context, sorry

[ornate trellis]

look at the preview irf theres a dll file, i guess

[topaz zenith]

“Can you not block my kids path thank you” as an example of a context she wouldn’t use the nickname for

[lament shell]

i really wanted to make a pumpkin carving mod, i started learning C# just so i can make the stupid carver have a silly action

[hard fern]

i still have yet to finish my crafts mod

[gray bear]

u guys finished ur mods?

[tender bloom]

^^^^^

[hard fern]

no... i dont finish my mods...

[topaz zenith]

my Npc is gonna be stylish

[ornate trellis]

finishing mods, whats that

[topaz zenith]

She wears ethically sourced furs in the fall and winter 🤭

[latent mauve]

I finished some mods, just not the big one I started with when I came here xD

[gray bear]

anyhow, Enik, it seems the mod uses C# to add it's meat items, so I'm like, unsure how sell them in a shop

[gentle rose]

I was going to say that’s a wheel not a spindle but it found out there are spindles that look like that too. The more you know!

[hard fern]

imagine fish...

[gray bear]

but yeah lookup anything seems like your best bet

fish

[latent mauve]

(I will get to the Zelda mod again eventually, but the portrait art is sapping my will to continue)

[hard fern]

(real)

[topaz zenith]

I’m super hyped to design my ocs seasonal and event outfits

[tender bloom]

Making a new shop entry with the ID should do it

[gentle rose]

well, the spindle is part of the wheel I think

[topaz zenith]

I might do a seperate mod for my npc where you can slowly watch her relationship with Clint grow

It would be neat to be honest but I don’t want to have that in main mod

[hard fern]

if i touch the spindle will i die 😔

[gray bear]

won't you just fall asleep?

am i thinking about something else

[hard fern]

yeah but i dont have fairy godmothers 😔

[topaz zenith]

Does anybody understand my vision guys

[rigid musk]

Like a uhh lifecycle mod

[hard fern]

sleeping beauty was originally cursed to die, but the fairy godmothers cast a spell on her that would have her just fall into a deep sleep, and-

[rigid musk]

but for your npc :)

[hard fern]

well this isn't fairytales and fables chat XD

[topaz zenith]

Kinda bit a mod where as your hearts go up with her you witness her relationship with Clint and the village grow

[rigid musk]

but we can make fairytales an fables here

[topaz zenith]

So like she JUST got there

[rigid musk]

coding - where your dreams can become reality... with a lot of effort and cussing at your screen probably

[wanton pebble]

I think like with a lot of mods most people only see their own vision

[rigid musk]

Yeah! a lifecycle mod! :D

[topaz zenith]

I don’t want it in the main mod but it would be really cool to have a side mod

[wanton pebble]

Example: Part of a Saloon Breakfast XD

[topaz zenith]

So you can basically see her develop

She has two kids so maybe I’ll make smthng to account for that

like you don’t see her for an extended time or smthng

[rigid musk]

Cause with the other life cycle mods you do see cutscenes between the other NPCs and see their relationships grow and expand (im not sure if those also have ones where the farmer plays a part in any of that but i havent played too far into them)

[topaz zenith]

She hides in Clint’s house lol

For like two game weeks idk

[wanton pebble]

It's a lot of ideas - personally I'd suggest making a document so you remember everything you're saying about your npc

Otherwise you will forget all the small details

[topaz zenith]

I do have a phone note pad open LOL

okay wait a 10 heart wedding cutscene would be cute 😭

[rigid musk]

cause this got sent into the stratosphere > (i shoulda put it in the npc channel but i did not.. i did not)

[vernal crest]

I thought this actually was the point of your mod already

[topaz zenith]

The mod I’m making is basically after she’s married if that makes sense

[somber walrus]

I am not going to lie... seeing Susan and the others going..I can't believe I am saying this. it makes me want to retry again to activate the heart event for my NPC, and to get it to work.XD

[rigid musk]

I put all of my ideas into a little (private) discord channel and then i refine them and put the ones i will put into my mod into a spreadsheet :]

[topaz zenith]

So if you start using the mod in a new file she’s been here longer than you so she’s married by then

[topaz zenith]

YAAAY

[rigid musk]

if i can do heart events, YOU can do heart events I promise

[vernal crest]

Try a 0 schedule to spawn him in there? (And yeah it might be worth discussing this in the NPC thread given how busy it is in here)

[topaz zenith]

But ti would be fun to make a side mod where she’s here after you

[hard fern]

i put all my ideas into my head where i remember them always. totally.

[proven spindle]

Adding an NPCwarp could work too

[rigid musk]

I would simply pass away