making-mods-general

[fallow musk]

How can I add a clickable button/icon on the HUD? can this be done using stardewUI or something simpler?

with stardewUI im not sure if i can make a HUD button, most of them look like menus

[frosty hull]

HUD like status bar, health bar?

[fallow musk]

something which could act like the quests button

not necessarily at that position, just a always on HUD button to access some other menu

[frosty hull]

you can inspector class StardewValley.Menus.DayTimeMoneyBox

[rancid temple]

https://github.com/rokugin/ShopsAnywhere/blob/main/ModEntry.cs
I dunno if it'll help, but this is a WIP mod I never finished, current functionality just adds a button in the inventory page that opens a shop

[frosty hull]

you need to implement
//for render sprite icon & HUD
public override void draw(SpriteBatch b)
//for handle mouse click & use if else for handle action
public override void receiveLeftClick(int x, int y, bool playSound = true)

[fallow musk]

thanks

[granite bluff]

hey i'm stuck forever while saving my mod-file in publishing on nexus, anyone knows whats going on?

[uncut viper]

can't you just draw in the SMAPI renderedhud event

[brave fable]

just to wrap-up your implementation, you want to add your MyOnScreenHUDButton : IClickableMenu to Game1.onScreenMenus in the Events.GameLoop.SaveLoaded event ONCE ONLY

[uncut viper]

Nexus just does this sometimes

[rancid temple]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Events#Display

[uncut viper]

I refresh when it happens

[granite bluff]

dayum. any clue how long this takes?

[uncut viper]

it doesn't, it's stuck

it doesn't take

ever

[rancid temple]

Whenever Nexus is being dumb, I just give up until the next day

[uncut viper]

(which is why I refresh)

refresh and try again and it'll probably work

[brave fable]

i wouldn't recommend adding a 'fake' hud button with smapi rendered/pressed events, it's better to do it vanilla and add to game1.onscreenmenus and get all the benefits of actual clickable components

[uncut viper]

ill trust blueberry on it since blueberry does more menu stuff than me

[brave fable]

the functionality is all there ready for you to use

[fallow musk]

oh i see

[brave fable]

the fools trust me like they don't know i'm wiping the il out of menus.daytimemoneybox.draw wholesale and butchering it back in out of order

[uncut viper]

that makes you even more trustworthy to me

[brave fable]

we're reaching JIT errors i didn't even know existed

[uncut viper]

but wait can't you still use clickable components with the SMAPI events, just store em in your modentry

granted that's not far from just making a menu class anyway but it'd mean you wouldn't have to add it to that on screen menus things right

[brave fable]

sure you can, but why would you when the game already handles draw/update/hover/pressed

literally does it for you when you add to onscreenmenus

that's like asking 'why would i make a custom menu when i can just lock out all input and render over everything else'

[uncut viper]

i figured you'd be adding custom functionality for those things anyway
these are just learning questions from me though not suggestions

[rancid temple]

onScreenMenus being a list of IClickableMenu's makes me confused as to how it handles the HUD buttons

[brave fable]

hud buttons as in zoom in/out and quest/journal?

[rancid temple]

Yeh

[brave fable]

those are just clickablecomponents on the daytimemenubox class

it really is just an onscreen menu haha

no different to scroll buttons in a crafting page

[rancid temple]

So if you wanted to add more of those buttons how would you do that?

[brave fable]

probably just make a new iclickablemenu to add to the list, as we're doing here

include your buttons as clickabletexturecomponent instances on the menu and do the input handling as elsewhere

again it's nothing really new or novel, just more buttons

[uncut viper]

just one of me is enough thanks

[rancid temple]

Right, I've just struggled to find any documentation on it, part of the reason I gave up on that mod lol

[brave fable]

ah well there really isn't any documentation haha

game code and all

copy code, edit code, reload code

[rancid temple]

Experiment until you break everything and then do it again

[frosty hull]

i prefer UI Framework like this in unity game objects MonoBehaviour driven

[rancid temple]

I'm more familiar with making UI in Unity but I know for a fact that being reliant on that system has crippled me elsewhere

[brave fable]

yeah sdv doesn't really do hierarchical ui all that much, i suppose you could call GameMenu and its submenu pages a hierarchy but everything's completely arbitrary and flat

if there's one single thing i miss from android development it's nice flexible ui construction

which isn't to say that sdv doesn't have a builtin ui framework, it's just only expected to be used for mostly flat pages that never react or resize

definitely a bad idea to leave for a few days between adding a ridiculously large and destructive chunk of transpiler and actually running it btw

[frosty hull]

or sometime we should make SMAPI UI Framework built-in

[brave fable]

there's a few projects out there that simplify things

stardewui the latest breakout project ofc

[hallow prism]

would "travel safe" be a ok sentence in english or is there a more natural (but preferably, formal) way?

[brave fable]

be safe/drive safe/get home safe are all fine but casual, comes across as personal

safe travels is good too

somehow i don't think i've ever heard someone say travel safe, just safe travels

[rigid musk]

I was just about to say 'safe travels' (while it is very similar) would be how i would write that

[hallow prism]

thanks

[rigid musk]

and safe travels is pretty formal but also natural too i say it all the time to people who I dont know very well but want to be respectful to :]

[hallow prism]

sometimes i have to swap things between english and french

[round dock]

Save travels for formal, polite. Be safe is something you’d say to someone you’re familiar/friendly with.

[brave fable]

am i allowed to place labels on nop opcodes in IL?

[slender badger]

"Travel safely" would be fine, I think, but "safe travels" is the more standard phrase

[blissful saddle]

[rigid musk]

Congratz!

[unique sigil]

Official Orang Post

congrats!

[blissful saddle]

Even Nexus recognizes me as a cheeto now

yet on it, seems like my NOP try to force SaveLoaded event on farmhands when playing in multiplayer and they stay up to 6AM

looking for a way to check if the current player/world is the host to skip the onSavedLoaded event

in C#

[brave fable]

simple, you want Context.IsMainPlayer

[blissful saddle]

thanks a lot. I was lost looking through the multiplayer documentation

[blissful saddle]

Since my mod saves data from players on save file, should I worry about it just loading the host data correctly on save load? or the game/smapi takes care when moddata is generate from farmhands?

[scenic dawn]

help

[blissful saddle]

ie. should I make check for multiplayer and generate different mod data if it is a multiplayer or single player. what could cause compatibility issues with games that may be played single or multi from time to time.

[ocean sail]

Log found, uploaded to: https://smapi.io/log/5acd5b81b7ad4924b093323d17c2cb55

Log found, uploaded to: https://smapi.io/log/e431d1db750644ae84178a45faaea6f2

[blissful saddle]

!mh

[ocean sail]

For help with modding issues, please ask in #1272025932932055121! When asking for assistance there, sharing an error log will help others identify your issue (see https://smapi.io/log for instructions).

To use this command, type !mh.

[blissful saddle]

seems like a Scale Up 2 crash though...

may help to put it in the title when creating a thread in the support section

[teal crest]

excuse me. I want to ask about how to use temporaryAnimatedSprite in events.

temporaryAnimatedSprite <texturename> <source_x> <source_y> <source_width> <source_height> <interval> <length> <loops> <tile_x> <tile_y> <flicker> <flip> <depth> <fade> <scale> <scale_change> <rotation> <rotation_change>

I wrote as

temporaryAnimatedSprite "Maps/springobjects" 0 0 16 16 500 1 100 16 20 false false 10 1 1 0 0 0 hold_last_frame/
I expect it as appearing a weed in the position, but seems nothing happen. no error though.
And it's too long command to one by one parameter analysis for me without any reactions.
Anyone notice what's wrong about that?

[calm nebula]

Hmm, what do you have for depth?

Try 1

[teal crest]

ok

[winged basin]

not quite sure. but I searched through the files and found a single file that uses it Data/Weddings.json:
"Celebration": "temporaryAnimatedSprite LooseSprites\\Cursors 558 1425 20 26 400 3 99999 26 64 false false 65 0 1 0 0 0 ping_pong/warp Marnie -2000 -2000"
if that helps

[teal crest]

depth 1 was same result. but thanks I would try check that one too.

[calm nebula]

Can you try fade 0?

[calm nebula]

Oh. Maps\\springobjects

Because the Slash is used as the deliminatoe

[teal crest]

copy & paste later half make appear the weed. don't know what was wrong yet. but it will be where should I start. thanks

[calm nebula]

You have to use the other slash

[teal crest]

slash was just be single because discord erase it in chat 😛

[calm nebula]

Wrap things in `

For code blocks on discord

That's how I can write mine

[teal crest]

ok it looks like fade was the problem as you said.

it works as expected when I changed the fade 0 from origin line. Thank you very much.

[winged basin]

interestingly though, C# wise I get an error if it can't find the specified spritesheet for example. If I patch in a Event via ContentPatcher it won't throw any errors? Or the Event doesn't get triggered to spawn in an temporaryAnimatedSprite

[teal crest]

sprite place was correct. just discord didn't display '//'

so, fade 1 mean "instant fade out soon" I guess?

[winged basin]

si I wanted to check if it would throw an error if it wouldn't exist

[distant radish]

Is it possible to put money into a machine?

[hard fern]

😅

i dont think so?

[distant radish]

I've never seen someone do it, but I had to ask just in case haha

[hard fern]

the problem is money isnt an item 🤔

[teal crest]

[game] Event script error: The content file was not found.
~~ yes it spit an error

[hard fern]

idk if u could do some C# magic to make it work,

[distant radish]

I think the easiest solution for a CP beginner like me would be to create some sort of Voucher/Bill that you buy in a real shop, and then put that voucher into the machine

[hard fern]

but to get it to work with CP, it would have to be some kind of item representing money? like you can "Buy" a 500g bill or whatever with 500g

[distant radish]

we read each other's mind xD

[hard fern]

lol

[winged basin]

So my Event just simply didn't start lol

[winged basin]

I looked at the code and apparently a TemporaryAnimatedSprite starts off with alpha = 1.0, so setting fade to 1 effectively sets the alpha instantly to 0 thus makes it invisible? if u want you can double check it and set the fade to something like 0.01

[teal crest]

yeah, it disappeared like ghost.

[calm nebula]

Yeah, for most things, 1 is 100%

Your average fade in game js like 0.01

[teal crest]

since I won't use that fade function, I had thought I set it as "instant fade in" or something, as opposite.

all value was required, so I was not sure all of them.

[calm nebula]

Maybe we should add an example to the wiki

Remind me in 6 days to add example to wiki

[patent lance]

all right atravita but next time you better bring me 20 nirnroot or i ain't doin it (#6420127) (6d | <t:1734793692>)

[calm nebula]

Thank you!!!!

[teal crest]

I'm very glad cause I had totally no idea which one was wrong.

[fallow musk]

what is the difference between sourceRect and bounds for any ClickableTextureComponent?

[fossil bear]

Is there something like wabbajack for stardew valley?
I always liked the idea of being able to download mod packs. But they often need customisation and vortex isn't that good.
Is there a way to let people download mod packs but for example also supply custom config files etc.?
Wabbajck copies your complete skyrim directory and creates a modpack with different game instance so your base game is untouched. That way you can create really customized packs to share.

Is there something like that?

[iron ridge]

does wabbajack not work for sdv?

[calm nebula]

Bounds is where the component is on screen. Sourcerect it draws from

[fallow musk]

👍

[calm nebula]

I saw you were trying to do a hud button

https://github.com/atravita-mods/StardewMods/blob/6484107b7f394c72fe9cbd4f370f05b997c607e8/CameraPan/ModEntry.cs#L111 is mine

https://github.com/atravita-mods/StardewMods/blob/6484107b7f394c72fe9cbd4f370f05b997c607e8/CameraPan/ModEntry.cs#L248

[fallow musk]

thanks

[calm nebula]

It's just a simple clickable component, everything is handled via smapi events

[frosty hull]

sorry, i see this code "/// <summary>"
which editor do you use
and how do you use the shortcuts?

[calm nebula]

It's just Visual Studio

Type three slashes and it'll do that automatically

[frosty hull]

aha, thanks 😯

i have question
i build mod from CjbItemSpawner github fork
can i upload mod zip file on release tag?

i have this fork
https://github.com/NRTnarathip/SDV-Mods/tree/android-dev
for support android version
but i'm not sure about upload & share mod zip file

[ivory plume]

Yep, as long as you follow those mods' open-source license (e.g. linking to the original for attribution).

[ornate trellis]

is there a way to have a custom water overlay on a map no matter what the screensize is or would that be some C# shenanigans(not counting making the map extra big with void just to achieve the effect)

[hallow prism]

i'm not sure what the screensize has to do with it?

[ivory plume]

The Modding:Items page is pretty big after the 1.6 changes, and it's hard to add more specific info like texture layouts. Any thoughts on splitting it into more specific pages?

Possible scheme:

Modding:Items    <-- intro, common info, description of each item type with links

Modding:Big craftables
Modding:Boots
Modding:Furniture
Modding:Hats
Modding:Pants
Modding:Objects
Modding:Shirts
Modding:Tools
Modding:Weapons

[ornate trellis]

well i mean if i just have a small map the rest of the screen will be filled with void, no? and if i put an overlay on my small map the rest of the screen wont have it

[drowsy pewter]

I'd be happy with this. There isnt too much cross-referencing needed between item types that makes having them on the same page be especially useful

And most of the time I'm linking someone to a specific item type anyways

[hallow prism]

i don't follow, what are you trying to do? i thought you wanted to edit the existing overlay when in your location, you have another plan apparently, what is it?

[ornate trellis]

i just have a alwaysfront layer rn but as you can see my map is small so everything outside is jsut void with no water overlay(tho since its not much light it jsut looks blue oops)

[wanton pebble]

I'd be down with it. However - and this may just be me reading too much into how you wrote said possible scheme - make sure to have Modding:Objects as the first in that section

I know it wouldn't be alphabetical, but objects would probably be the most common over all mods, whereas stuff like clothing/tools/weaponry generally end up secondary

[drowsy pewter]

Why do you want water overlay on the void anyways

[hallow prism]

ok it's not really context like i asked but i think you mean you want to give an "underwater" of sort effect

[ornate trellis]

because i wanted an underwater-y feel and just trying to put the overlay on the inside of the cave gives too much contrast

[hallow prism]

which isn't what i put under the words "water overlay" because for me it's overlay FOR water and for you it's overlay OF water (maybe?)

[ornate trellis]

yeah sorry, sometimes im bad in explaining what i want

[drowsy pewter]

Okay I also thought the same thing as lumina?

I dont know how to draw out there without C#

[ornate trellis]

oh yeah that was actually jsut my initial question if something like that needs C#

alternatively, without putting it on the void it'd look like this but idk if it still has this underwater-y feel

[drowsy pewter]

A tesselating weather effect might be able to draw out there but I dont know how to use weather wonders or if you would want to add another framework

[hallow prism]

i say it's better but maybe with some texture it'll be more obvious and also hmm

[drowsy pewter]

yes, the additional image helps

[hallow prism]

if there's no water pond maybe because i'm not sure if it would be obvious as water if there's another layer of water

[ornate trellis]

hm

well, the thing is i want it underwater-y but more in a uh

you know how when youre in a cave and theres water and the water movement or w/e reflects on the surrounding area

[hallow prism]

then maybe consider something with animation, like reusing the water overlay in cursor but with different colors

anyway

it depends of the efforts you want

[ornate trellis]

i plan to do a underwater type of map but thatll be big enough so i can just slap decorative areas to have the map bigger or w/e but this one is jsut 20x20

[hallow prism]

it's pretty good in the latest image for the concept

and can work as it is with the right context

[ornate trellis]

like this

i hope the quality drop of the vid aint too bad

[hard fern]

ur so fast...

but i think it looks good?

[ornate trellis]

im just fast cuz i had the animation for the regular water in tiled already lol

[hard fern]

no like literally

ur walking speed

lol

[ornate trellis]

OH lol thats max CJB speed

i gotta go fast

[hard fern]

makes me feel slow when i test lol

speaking of

i gotta work on my mod some more

taking a break from my npc simply bc i hit a writing wall

[ornate trellis]

thats why i have a long scope creep list so i can jsut do something else when i am fed up with doing a certain thing /hj

[hard fern]

grgnn...

[ornate trellis]

time for me to look at warps again

[winged basin]

still a bit goofy but its getting there

[gray bear]

HE HOP

[pine elbow]

cute

[gray bear]

godspeed

screams

[ornate drift]

how can i add another change without fucking up the brackets

[hard fern]

just add another set of brackets?

[ornate drift]

between where

[hard fern]

just. after the block you already have

[ornate drift]

like between which brackets

[latent mauve]

Before the ]

[hard fern]

remember the comma at the end of your previous block

[lucid iron]

{
  "Format": "2.4.0",
  "Changes": [
    {
      "Action": "Include",
      "FromFile": "data/valley.json"
    },
    {
      "Action": "Include",
      "FromFile": "data/island.json",
      "When": {
        "LocationContext": "Island"
      },
      "Update": "OnLocationChange"
    },
    {
      "Action": "Include",
      "FromFile": "data/objects.json"
    },
    {
      "Action": "Include",
      "FromFile": "data/flooring.json"
    },
    {
      "Action": "Include",
      "FromFile": "data/zothers.json"
    },
  ]
}

its like this

[] is a list of many {} separated by ,

[ornate drift]

like this?

[lucid iron]

dont forget the ,

but anyways pls get a proper text editor like visual studio code or notepad++

[ornate drift]

why

is notepad unreliable

[lucid iron]

so you don't have to ask inane questions like this

[hard fern]

yeah

[lucid iron]

it checks format for u

[ornate drift]

oh

hm

are they on microsoft store

[teal bridge]

Is there some save data stored outside the Saves directory? I was trying to open a save someone sent me for troubleshooting but it just doesn't show up in the save list after copying it to my save directory.

[lucid iron]

vsc probably? microsoft owns that one

[hard fern]

just look it up

[lucid iron]

what kind of data are you looking for?

[hard fern]

notepad++ is free for download too

[lucid iron]

oh and turn off steam cloud save maybe

[teal bridge]

Anything. The save file just doesn't appear in the list when I go to load.

[hard fern]

🤔

[teal bridge]

I don't use Steam. It's GOG, and I'm launching it directly from the command line so no galaxy sync.

[latent mauve]

They make it easier to see the individual elements and will automatically show when you have syntax errors

[ornate drift]

did i add the comma correctly

[hard fern]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[hard fern]

you can check it yourself 👍

[lucid iron]

i have thing where i symlink to different save folder when i switch between mod lists so i dont think theres like a separate "saves list" to update

[latent mauve]

I did my earlier coding on Notepad (not N++) in conjunction with the smapi.io/json validator just fine, so it's doable without swapping programs, but it does help

[ornate drift]

yippeeeeee,,,,

[lucid iron]

the cloud save stuff is all i can think of for this situation

does the save u got have both FarmName_xxxxx and SaveGameInfo and their _old versions

[teal bridge]

Yeah, all that looks fine.

Huh, ok... I had to run it with the Galaxy sync, which failed, but then the save showed up anyway. 🙄 whatever.

[ornate drift]

sam open the house i need to check your portrait sprite god damnit 💢

[lucid iron]

debug wtc sam

[ornate drift]

theres a debug mode/

?

[lucid iron]

there's a number of debug commands

[hard fern]

is it possible to put more than one category in like a "requiredtags" field in order to allow any item from any one of those categories, or is that not how that works

[lucid iron]

tags is a list yea

[ornate drift]

that is NOT sam 🙏

[lucid iron]

for example vanilla bone mill:

"RequiredTags": [
  "bone_item",
  "!id_o_881"
],

any bone item, except for (O)881 bone fragment

this is AND so if u want OR then u need to add another "Triggers" entry

also on bone mill rule 1 is the 5 bone frag trigger

[ornate drift]

how can i change sams name
not every instance of his name where someone mentions him but like his bio and all

i think its called a display name

[lucid iron]

are you sure you don't wanna just make a standalone sonic npc

[ornate drift]

no im bad at coding lol

[lucid iron]

i think sam would find sonic radical

[ornate drift]

sam is suitable for sonic

[lucid iron]

and become good friends

[hard fern]

💀 i couldnt find a list of category context tags thingies...

[ornate drift]

true

[lucid iron]

!npc

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Aviroen has put together a template that will allow you to easily create a romanceable NPC.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

• Fireredlily has a WIP NPC Builder Please do report any errors you get with it into the NPC thread!

To use this command, type !npc.

[ornate drift]

cant i just code everything in json

[lucid iron]

u can prob start with the npc builder spreadsheet

yea

you can make an npc entirely in content patcher

[ornate drift]

whats that

[lucid iron]

the wip npc builder in the command

[ornate drift]

real 🔥

[patent lance]

@next plaza: look into EnderTedi’s collection of SpaceCore bugs (48h ago)

[ornate trellis]

how come whenever i wanna look at some intensive warp explanation i cant find any besides the example in the location wikipage

does this look right if i wanna make the warp only work after an event has been seen? https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/c59ce6eac2134430be5ac6d75dbc2ed3#L19

[viscid ice]

so i read into scaleup 2 and tried to create whats needed... but come to the stated issue. i tried to find out myself what i need to do, but kinda got stuck and need ideas/solutions x.x

[latent mauve]

If you run into an issues with the WIP NPC Builder, definitely let me know! I'm pretty active around here, so I'll try to fix any errors y'all track down

[pine elbow]

looks ok to me. I believe you can also use just
"HasSeenEvent": "EventID"
did you look into Modding:Maps page in the SV wiki? there is some explanation about map properties including warps https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps

[latent mauve]

That looks like you're trying to use a dynamictoken as your FromFile, but the token's not been loaded yet?

[ornate trellis]

oh yeah ive been staring at that page alongside the location one but i wanted to add it via CP and not directly on the map(to not confuse myself where to look later if theres issues)

[viscid ice]

i dont rly know what i'm doing, i just want to get hector's portraits work with scale up 2 x.x

[latent mauve]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[latent mauve]

Can you post your JSON?

[viscid ice]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/0a1fff89d18c40c987191b206ea235ff

pls help, i draw but i dont know shit about coding a mod xD

[pine elbow]

Yeah the wiki isn't exactly easy to comprehend... I just added warps directly in the tmx file and loaded the map when I first did it. It was less confusing that way. But if you're using conditions I guess using CP is better.

[prime gull]

guys can someone ss the town interior tile sheet and circle the bedroom door tile cause i acc cannot find it

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editmap.md
AddWarps

i think this only supports the regular kind of map property warp, ur tile action warp with mail flag seems correct

[pine elbow]

Does anybody know why my NPC is saying this? https://smapi.io/json/none/eb63f65558334daf92adaa2e2ff314fe

[brittle ledge]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Kailey's_Interior_Door_Guide#townInterior_Door_Sprite has it highlighted

[prime gull]

THANK YOU I WAS LOOKING SO LONG

[hard fern]

wow are doors that complicated

[brittle ledge]

Did you load your schedule strings? They're a different patch from regular dialogue

[brittle ledge]

if you want to do custom doors, yes

[lucid iron]

doors r just hella specific

[hard fern]

scary

[pine elbow]

I did... loaded a blank json for Strings/schedules/NPCname and editdata for that.

[brittle ledge]

hmm

let me see what I did for mine, one sec

mine's i18n'd and I assume you haven't done that, does your syntax match this? ``` {
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Strings/Schedules/JortsCat",
"Entries":
{
"Trash.000": "{{i18n:JortsCat.Trash.000.{{Random: {{Range: 1,6}} }} }}",
"ColaShop.000": "{{i18n:JortsCat.ColaShop.000.{{Random: {{Range: 1,5}} }} }}",
"Kevin.000": "{{i18n:JortsCat.Kevin.000.{{Random: {{Range: 1,7}} }} }}",
"CatCafe.000": "{{i18n:JortsCat.CatCafe.000.{{Random: {{Range: 1,6}} }} }}",
"Pride.000": "{{i18n:JortsCat.Pride.000}}",

        },
    },```

oh hm, I wonder if it's case sensitive

ah, my load is lowercase so I suppose not

[pine elbow]

I used i18n. I honestly have no clue what's different? Could you take a look in the json I linked it

[ornate trellis]

wait a sec, are you saying I could've done Random: {{Range: 1,6}} instead of Random:1++2++3++4++5++6++7++8|inputSeparator=++

[dusty scarab]

Samic!

[brittle ledge]

yes

[ornate trellis]

shakes fist

[fossil bear]

What? I didn't know that!!!!

[brittle ledge]

Nothing's jumping out at me and it didn't say anything about no translation, looks like, so it wouldn't be an issue with the i18n I don't think

[calm nebula]

If you've seen me write it out

In the past, range was quite inefficient

Sinz fixed that

[pine elbow]

it doesn't perform any animation either.... and I don't have a clue for that. maybe this is relevant?

[brittle ledge]

....Atra, do 0 schedules do anything weird with animations/string dialogue?

[calm nebula]

You can't use them in a 0 schedule

[brittle ledge]

Well then.

[calm nebula]

But the behavior should be "is ignored"

And by that I mean the entry with the 0

I literally do 0 location x y/610 location x y dialogue for Demetrius

The behavior you see is if the entire asset is invalid

[pine elbow]

I'll change it but it didn't work when I started with 610 either

I just did that to test it faster

[brittle ledge]

So it's a problem with the whole schedule, then, atra

I'm not seeing any issues but if one of those end tiles is impassible that would do it, yeah?

[latent mauve]

Unfortunately, I'm not sure what's going on that's throwing the {{TrueShape}} error, based on your JSON. Are you able to post the full SMAPI log, in case the Trace shows something?

Otherwise, someone else who's played with ScaleUp 2 may need to step in

[teal bridge]

Probably worth pointing out that, at least last time I checked, there was precisely one WJ list for Stardew and it's a bit of a kitchen-sink deal. Most of the Stardew community seems to find managers like Stardrop "good enough", since SMAPI already has a content pipeline and doesn't need the same degree of file-level virtualization as a Bethesda game. And you can already point SMAPI at a different mod directory via command-line arguments.

[viscid ice]

i dont know why it deletes the trueshape out when uploading it

[latent mauve]

ah! Can you provide the full JSON file where you're defining the TrueShape token?

(probably your content.json?)

[fossil bear]

Yeah I know. But I can't create custom configuration files and supply them via vortex or stardrop. I'd have to manually upload them to nexus. With wabbajack I just create a folder with every mod directory and custom configs and then they'll get installed.

[viscid ice]

what does that mean for dummies?

the trueshape token is part of the s&s mod

[latent mauve]

ok

[pine elbow]

Oh!!! That may be the issue here. I didn't double-check where the NPC could be in 24:00. I didn't know it will lead to that kind of error. I'll fix it and try again. Thank you

[latent mauve]

Are you using S&S as a dependency on your own mod?

[hard fern]

it's part of s&s, but it your mod wont know that unless you-

[latent mauve]

if the token is set in another mod and your mod tries to load first, it won't think the token is ready, is your mod set to use S&S as a dependency

[ornate trellis]

i think its time for me to make more fish :^)

[viscid ice]

i did add the unique ID of it in dependencies in the manifest

[latent mauve]

That's if Dynamic Tokens load across mods, I genuinely don't remember if thats the case.

[brittle ledge]

I would try setting her schedule to just BusStop and have her move around there so you don't have to worry about maps. If she still doesn't talk/animate, try removing the schedule strings and leaving the animations and see if it works.

[latent mauve]

What does {{TrueShape}} parse to in S&S?

[hard fern]

i think you need cross mod compatibility token things

?

[latent mauve]

Yeah, I think so too

But they might be able to bypass that by using the parsed token instead

[viscid ice]

as far as i understand it handles the portraits fitting with the changing gender, like changing appearance

[latent mauve]

patch parse "{{TrueShape}}" "<whatever S&S's uniqueID is>"

try that in the SMAPI console?

I don't know if you can run it for just the token, but worth a try

if not, you can probably run it as part of asset lookup

[calm nebula]

Where does TrueShape come from

[latent mauve]

Swords & Sorcery, apparently

And they're trying to call it in their own mod's asset path, which... won't work as is, AFAIK

So, figuring out the potential parsed values that it COULD be using seems like a way to properly target it with the new mod?

[calm nebula]

You could do something with buttons token mod

But yeah

You can't normally read another mods dynamic tokens

[viscid ice]

that did not work

[viscid ice]

i will try this

[latent mauve]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/28284

[rare prawn]

Hello! I'm not sure if this is a complicated question, but I am trying to fix a furniture shifting issue when the building is upgraded in my Medieval Tiny Shed mod. It's a 1.6+ custom building, and it has its own upgrades (base, tardis, and tardis+)
My question is how do I resolve the furniture shift issue while keeping in mind the 2 upgrades, and that there may be multiple sheds on the map?
Aimon used this fix for their Aimon's Fancy Shed, but this is not for a custom building and it depends on selecting which size shed you want to use in the config menu, but it's the only example I can find that doesn't use the IndoorItemMoves option which only seems to move objects, not furniture:

        "LogName": "Furniture Shift Fix",
        "Action": "EditData",
        "Target": "Data/Buildings",
            "TargetField": [ "Big Shed", "IndoorItemMoves" ], 
            "When": { "Big Shed Redesign": "true" },
        "Entries": {
            "AimonShed2": {
                "Id": "AimonShed2",
                "Source": { "X": 1, "Y": 6 },
                "Destination": { "X": 1, "Y": 10 },
                "Size": { "X": 13, "Y": 10 },
                },
            },
    }```

Here is my code, with no adjustments currently: https://smapi.io/json/none/9ce6a891e4054225912d0f63895436c7

Also please talk to me like baby. Brain tier 1

[brittle pasture]

so if you upgrade a Small Shed to a Big Shed, what IndoorItemMoves does is "move a rectangle of size Size from the Source tile in the Small Shed to the Destination tile in the Big Shed"

[rare prawn]

I thought that it only moved objects though, not furniture? I only saw someone comment that before though, I am not 100%

[brittle pasture]

it should also move furniture

[rare prawn]

👀

Oh okay, so this would work with my issues then

I will fiddle around, thank you! 🩷

[hard fern]

is it possible to have crafting byproduce? like when you craft x you get another fun secret thing?

[lucid iron]

is that a thing better crafting supports

[viscid ice]

my brain is frying x.x i did set the dependencies but i dont understand how to add the token now... the "demonstration" on the mod page arent rly helping at all. ..qq

[lucid iron]

for machines emc has a byproducts feature

[pine elbow]

I changed the schedule to
"spring": "610 BusStop 29 5 2 Niki_notes "Strings\schedules\Niki:000"",
and it still doesn't work.
"spring": "610 BusStop 29 5 2 Niki_notes ",
still no animation.

[brittle ledge]

Does it work if you swap the animation out for the string?

[brittle pasture]

Better Crafting's custom recipes seems to only support one product at a time, but there is an option to run a trigger action on craft, which you can use to put an item in the player inventory

you can't do it with vanilla crafting recipes

[pine elbow]

nope.

[hard fern]

🤔 hm, alright then

... more trigger actions

😭

[near sierra]

Can you make a letter a quest reward?

[teal crest]

the animation listed part are correct?

[pine elbow]

Sorry

[brittle ledge]

hm so that seems like there's something going on with your schedule, period. But I'm not seeing anything

stupid question, is your NPC's internal name just Niki?

[pine elbow]

yes I think.. I used the same frames in festivals and it worked then.
I also changed the animation key to all lowercase, I don't think it matters.

[brittle pasture]

you can put the add mail dialogue command in the NPC reaction

don't think you can do it as a direct reward

[pine elbow]

Yes. I found out the modding wiki too late, I didn't go back and add all {{ModID}} stuff

[teal crest]

When you set other animation, she do that move?

in that place

[pine elbow]

I didn't check other animations in that specific location but when I checked another one in Town, it didn't work either

[hard fern]

..maybe i just cant find it

[pine elbow]

she just... stands there

[teal crest]

if she do, problem is animation. if not the schedule problem maybe

[brittle ledge]

(You could go back and add it before anyone starts adding compat for your character 🙂 as of right now, I don't know any other NPCs that share the name, but you never know )

Is the JSON you posted earlier your full content.json?

[brittle pasture]

https://github.com/KhloeLeclair/StardewMods/blob/main/BetterCrafting/author-guide.md#custom-recipes
ActionsOnCraft

[brittle ledge]

No, I guess it can't be. Can you post your full content.json?

[hard fern]

oh, there we go

[pine elbow]

No, I just included what seemed relevant, as other functions are working well. I'll upload the full content.json now...

content.json:
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/81c27cb4e0604f968d66ab75a3d2c95d
TestSchedule.json:
https://smapi.io/json/none/dcc57326eb284aa198f93db1f07b61bc
animationDescriptions.json:
https://smapi.io/json/none/5c7916a3a3724a9b895876fb49d8390c
ScheduleDialogue.json:
https://smapi.io/json/none/2229a1a838a74f24829a51897eda9aed

Thanks for looking into this. I really hoped it was some stupid typo I overlooked

[teal crest]

how about "{{ModId}}_Niki_notes" that's what I'm doing for my NPC

[pine elbow]

I should do that when I change my internal NPC name to {{ModID}}_Niki. I didn't think this through when I first started making mods

[teal crest]

hey yours are't same folder as mine about animation

  "Action": "EditData",
  "Target": "Data/animationdescriptions",
  "Entries": {
"{{Lowercase:{{SigId}}}}_sleep": "43/43/43",//睡眠時

mine

[pine elbow]

oh wait

[teal crest]

"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Characters/Data/animationDescriptions",
"Entries": {
"Niki_notes": "16/16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 18 18 18 19 18 19 18 19 18 19 18 19 18 19 18 19 18 19 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 18 19 18 19 18 19 18 19 18 19 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 16 17 16 17 16 17 16 17 16 17 16 17 16 17 16 17/16",
yours

yours inside Characters/ is that right?

[ornate trellis]

ye its just Data/animationdescriptions

[brittle ledge]

yep

[pine elbow]

yeah that's right

wow I was stupid

[tame nebula]

Sorry to butt into this but I was wondering if someone could help me figure out why a letter I'm trying to add hasn't shown up (relevent json below)

  "Action": "EditData",
  "Target": "Data/mail",
  "Entries": {
    "{{ModId}}_RoryHelp": "Text"
  }
},
{
  "Action": "EditData",
  "Target": "Data/TriggerActions",
  "Entries": {
    "{{ModId}}_UPMail": {
      "Id": "{{ModId}}_UPMail",
      "Trigger": "DayStarted",
      "Actions": [
        "AddMail Current {{ModId}}_RoryHelp"
      ]
    }
}```

[brittle ledge]

See if that fixes it? I'm still looking at your schedule json to see if I see anything else

[brittle pasture]

addmail by default adds the mail for tomorrow

[uncut viper]

have you been testing this trigger for a while on the same save? A trigger can only ever run once by default, so if a trigger with the id already ran, it won't happen again

[hard fern]

😓 can i put a category (not a number category) in a recipe data

[uncut viper]

aren't all categories numbers?

[hard fern]

oh wait ur right

[brittle pasture]

though be warned that not every category will show up properly

[hard fern]

i meant like context tag

[calm nebula]

Not without spacecore

[brittle pasture]

in that case nope, need either SpaceCore or better crafting

if you're already using BC custom recipes then use that

[hard fern]

back we go to better crafting

[hard fern]

better cooking:

[pine elbow]

Now she does the animation but the strings aren't fixed

[ornate trellis]

progress

[tame nebula]

added the now type and that fixed it, thank you

[ornate trellis]

do you have something in your i18n for that shedule dialogue

[brittle ledge]

Does she move around the map (when you have more than one in your schedule)?

[ornate trellis]

i remember the game doing a funky if its left as ""

thats why i either put a word or just ... lol

[teal crest]

if not a random but direct linked, is that displayed?

[hard fern]

hhh... im a bit confused reading the docs for better crafting, i can't tell if i can include it in the main mod or need a separate mod for it? im not editing a vanilla crafting recipe, im adding a completely new one, so would i just stick that into the crafting station portion?

[pine elbow]

I've tried that and there was a red wall in my console

[brittle ledge]

also I don't know if this is relevant, but I usually see strings in the format NPCname.Thing.000 whereas you've got NPCname.000

[brittle pasture]

BC uses the asset system so you can put it changes in your existing CP mod

[pine elbow]

Yes, I stalked her and she moved along the schedule.
She walks through walls when I patch reload in the middle of the day but I suppose weird behavior is expected when I do that. It becomes ok next morning

[brittle pasture]

just target the assets exposed by BC in your Target field

[hard fern]

oh ok

[ornate trellis]

[pine elbow]

Professor Jasper Thomas mod uses just numbers, I used it as a reference.

[teal crest]

you looks like trying display Niki.000.1 but the game is searching Niki.000

[brittle ledge]

that should be the i18n key, but the schedule call and the string name look like they're both Niki.000

[ornate trellis]

i figure you have actual text in your i18n

[teal crest]

then i18n file is correct?

[brittle ledge]

Does he also use schedules lowercase, or is it uppercase like this?

That shouldn't be the problem, but also case sensitivity happens when you least expect it

[pine elbow]

it's all lowercase for him

[uncut viper]

targets are not case sensitive

[brittle ledge]

Button I have trust issues

[uncut viper]

i understand! i trust the CP Docs tho

[ornate trellis]

wondering bout that but alas not getting an anwer so we will stay curious lol

[pine elbow]

i18n file is like this because I didn't know how to set... what do I call it, possibilities?

[ornate trellis]

me too tbh i kept coming in here for these exact issues to be the cause way too often

[teal crest]

did you load initial file for "Target": "Strings/schedules/Niki"?

[pine elbow]

Yes, I loaded blank.json for that

[ornate trellis]

sometimes i hate my typos

[brittle ledge]

(if you want line 1 to be twice as common as line 2, {{Random: 1, 1, 2}})

[pine elbow]

I'm starting to think it's just my computer

[uncut viper]

if it helps, its almost never just someones computer. whether thats good or bad depends on your outlook though i guess

[pine elbow]

that's helpful. at least I learned something

[latent mauve]

not sure if it matters, but I ended up having to use Strings/Characters for my schedule text to work properly for the Satoru Gojo NPC mod fix

[brittle ledge]

question, if you remove the schedule string do you get her regular dialogue?

[pine elbow]

yes

[pine elbow]

and how does this work? do I add strings like "Niki:000"?

[brittle ledge]

okay, so we can also cross out your blank load, since it's functioning for regular dialogue

[ornate trellis]

i am having war flashbacks with my map issues from yesterday where it was me leaving a tiledata empty to make the whole map load crap out

and it only took 500 years to figure out

[brittle ledge]

Okay, if you've still got the game loaded, put patch summary full into your SMAPI console and then post the log?

[latent mauve]

I ended up doing this for Satoru Gojo's forest training text:

[pine elbow]

Here! https://smapi.io/log/458dc1380a1a438aad2c7663ca265dfa

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.9 with SDV 1.6.14 build 24317 on Microsoft Windows 10 Pro, with 12 C# mods and 1 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[latent mauve]

I still am not entirely sure why, but it WOULD NOT return the actual text string for a schedule entry until I loaded the text string into Strings/Characters instead.

[pine elbow]

I should try that.

[brittle ledge]

aha

Change this to "001": "{{i18n:Niki.001.{{Random: {{Range: 1,5}} }} }}",

[pine elbow]

Wait I wasn't allowed to do that??

[brittle ledge]

Range is looking for a start and end. If you want just a specific set of items like 1,2,3,4,5, it's just {{Random: 1,2,3,4,5}}

[pine elbow]

Oh right
that was +1 stupid of me

I'll change it but I'm only using 000 for testing so I don't think that's the main problem here

[rare prawn]

I require assistance.. I have no idea what I did, so I am not really sure what to do to fix this..
I am trying to resolve a furniture shifting issue with my Medieval Tiny Shed, and this was the starting furniture and objects I used as a reference: (picture)
This is the IndoorItemMoves section of my code that I changed:

                {
                "Source": { "X": 0, "Y": 0 },
                "Destination": { "X": 4, "Y": 0 },
                "Size": { "X": 8, "Y": 14 }
                }
            ],```

[brittle ledge]

It might be causing the whole patch to fail is my thinking - if you check the patch summary, it says it's not loaded.

[rare prawn]

and somehow it ended up like this???:

[pine elbow]

oh!!!

I should have posted i18n from the start lol

thanks guys... I didn't even doubt it

[brittle ledge]

I mean I should've asked for a patch summary about three steps ago but the success is all that matters!

[brittle pasture]

That looks like the code is working fine to me, moving from (0,0) to (4,0)

[brittle ledge]

also, I saw your NPC on Nexus the other day, she looks interesting can I make a small suggestion about your mod page?

[pine elbow]

of course!

[brittle pasture]

actually ignore me, it doesn't

hmm

[rare prawn]

I was about to be very confused xD

[brittle pasture]

yeah I only looked at the flooring and didnt notice the lamps

[rare prawn]

I am confused why the lamps kind of went wherever and then the blue plants stayed on the left

and the cushion

[brittle pasture]

can you try moving just the floor stuff (not the wall)

[brittle ledge]

I think it'd help if you added some more screenshots of her to your page like some more shots of her daily dialogue, showing her different expressions, and maybe some non-spoiler shots of her heart events?

[rare prawn]

I can do that :3 I'll be back

[pine elbow]

I'll do that! thanks for the suggestion

[ornate trellis]

meanwhile while I was hiding in here I made two whole fish sprites lmao

[brittle ledge]

I wrote a whole two lines in my fish tutorial 🤝

[ornate trellis]

look at these goofs

Raboras and Rainbow Kribs

not so rainbow but yeah

[hard fern]

fish

feeesh

[ornate trellis]

yass

i wonder how many gonna be too many

[brittle ledge]

more than More New Fish

[hard fern]

tbh. im dreading fish sprites

[brittle ledge]

fish aren't too bad

[ornate trellis]

doubt ill ever reach those heights

i have currently 21 and now plus these two (and possibly more)

[hard fern]

why am i making so many handkerchiefs

[ornate trellis]

why not

[hard fern]

i have to make crafting recipes for all of these

[ornate trellis]

ive, like 30 cooking recipes and 20 crafting recipes by now, i feel you

still unsure if i should make my hats craftable or sold by hatmouse

[hard fern]

i got carried away 😭

[ornate trellis]

mood

[brittle ledge]

question, how does the Edibility field relate to the actual edibility in-game? Is it a 1:1 where 10 edibility = 10 health/energy restored or is there a calculation involved?

[uncut viper]

there is a formula and its not equal for both health and stam

unfortuinately i do not remember what wiki page its on,

nvm i found it
"A numeric value that determines how much energy (edibility × 2.5) and health (edibility × 1.125) is restored when this item is eaten. An item with an edibility of -300 can't be eaten, values from -299 to -1 reduce health and energy, and zero can be eaten but doesn't change health/energy. Default -300."

[brittle ledge]

thank you! I checked the item page but couldn't find it.

[hard fern]

fascinating

[tender bloom]

there's a constant factor

plus it gets rounded

I find it's too annoying and just look at vanilla foods

[uncut viper]

i also chcked the item page but its actually on the Objects specific page

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Objects#Edibility

[hard fern]

i just guess a number lol

[uncut viper]

i think spacecore allows you to set arbitrary values? dont quote me on that tho

[rare prawn]

This is probably a really dumb basic question, but when I am editing code in a content.json over and over is there a way to load/reload that into the game without closing the game and relaunching it over and over every time I make changes?

[brittle pasture]

!reload

[ocean sail]

How do I reload my changes while I'm still in game?

-You cannot reload tokens, that's a forced restart unfortunately
-If you've done any CHANGES, then type into SMAPI:
patch reload YourMod.UniqueID
-If you've done i18n DEFAULT.jSON changes, then type into SMAPI:
reload_i18n then
patch reload YourMod.UniqueID
-C# Visual Studio has a feature called Hot Reload
-C# Rider also has Hot Reload
-Generally working in C# it will be called "Hot Reload" (usage may vary)

To use this command, type !reload.

[rare prawn]

👀

Thank you!

[uncut viper]

hm, i wonder if that command should specify that its dynamic tokens that are a forced restart not normal tokens

[brittle ledge]

okay, I have two other dumb questions regarding fish. First off, is it required in the item data that Type be Fish and Category be -4? I assume so but

[acoustic summit]

You mean for them to be catchable from locations? If so it dosnt need to be of type fish / category -4 (I think anyway)

[teal bridge]

You can fish up trash and even big craftables, so yeah, not required for the fishing itself.

The category is mainly for cooking recipes I think?

[acoustic summit]

And collection, I believe

[brittle ledge]

according to the wiki -4 is also affected by the fishing professions

[acoustic summit]

The sell price would be, yes

[brittle ledge]

so in theory you could fish up, say, tree fruit?

[acoustic summit]

Yeah

[brittle ledge]

👀

[ponders new crimes]

[teal bridge]

One part of the game has you fish up a Void Mayonnaise.

It might be hardcoded, mind you.

[rancid temple]

Really? I can't recall having to fish it up

[teal bridge]

You don't have to, but in a minmax you might not have a better way to get it.

[rancid temple]

I just didn't even know it was an option in the first place lol

[teal bridge]

And to our eternal frustration, CA massively lowered the fish chance in 1.6.9.

[rancid temple]

Is there an in-game clue to this? This is such a wild way to get it if it's unprompted lol

[teal bridge]

Well, you can fish it in exactly the same place you need to use it.

[ornate trellis]

wasnt it in the witches swamp so you can pass to the hut

[rancid temple]

Yeah, that's what I'm seeing on the wiki, I just don't recall that ever being obvious

[rare prawn]

Okay so I tried fiddling away with the code in multiple ways, tried moving around the wall items by the upper and lower wall separately but it was still wonky and I can't really explain it, but this is the result of me just trying to move only the floor items:
https://i.imgur.com/CZCqag0.png

                {
                "Source": { "X": 0, "Y": 6 },
                "Destination": { "X": 3, "Y": 6 },
                "Size": { "X": 8, "Y": 9 }
                }
            ],```

[ornate trellis]

that i only got to know through this discord too tbh lol

[teal bridge]

Lots of fishing secrets aren't made obvious. Iridium Krobus Statue has no clue, does it? (Or maybe it's in one of the secret notes)

[ornate trellis]

i dont think it has a clue

[rare prawn]

This is where 3,6 should be:https://i.imgur.com/fOdJlVP.png

[teal bridge]

I think even the Gourmand Statue is just a secret.

[hard fern]

debating if i should add more handkerchiefs or move on 😔

[ornate trellis]

you know my answer

[teal bridge]

Don't ask how a fishing rod can pull up a 2500 lb statue. Forest Magic™

[rancid temple]

Gourmand at least has a stupidly high drop rate

[near sierra]

Is it possible to use console commands to set it so you've never spoken to a character before? I need something like this to make it possible to test some code.

[teal bridge]

Void Mayonnaise used to have a pretty high drop rate too, it was only lowered in 1.6.9

[rancid temple]

I think I only knew about the Iridium Krobus from game files

[teal bridge]

It was like 1 in 5 or something, IIRC.

[rancid temple]

What are you trying to test?

There's no command to make an NPC untalked to before, as far as I can tell, but depending on what you're trying to do it might not even be necessary to do that

[teal bridge]

"Never spoken to" is actually a relationship state, that is having no Friendship entry in that dictionary. No console command for that: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Console_commands#Relationships

[near sierra]

I'll try that.

[teal bridge]

But you say you're testing code, so you could pretty easily register your own console command to delete the friendship data from the dictionary.

...I think.

[uncut viper]

thats all it should take yeah

[near sierra]

Basically, there's some code that's supposed to trigger when you've talked to a certain NPC in our mod for the first time, and I think the reason I can't get it to trigger is the fact I've talked to him in an earlier build.

[teal bridge]

Clearing friendship entry might resolve that but it depends if there's some intermediate state like a mail flag involved.

[near sierra]

I'll try it.

[uncut viper]

afaik everything that matters will return unmet if there is no dictionary entry, including content patchers relationship token

[brittle ledge]

Now I remember what the second question I had was!

Can context tags take . or is it only underscore?

Related: can they have tokens, e.g. {{ModId}}_item?

[lucid iron]

yea if ur in content patcher

[finite ginkgo]

Since tokens are resolved by CP before being added in: yes, just keep in mind if a token changes value it'll only change the context tags for new items since items retain their data

[brittle ledge]

thank you!

[rare prawn]

I changed the appearance of some of the furniture/objects to make it easier to identify which ones are moving where:
https://i.imgur.com/8axWpuu.png

This was my most recent attempt.... :

                {
                "Source": { "X": 0, "Y": 6 },
                "Destination": { "X": 3, "Y": 7 },
                "Size": { "X": 9, "Y": 9 }
                }
            ],```

I am so confused

[latent mauve]

Which items specifically aren't moving where you expect them to? Because the bottom left blue flowers seems to be mostly correct in both instances, (likely because it's outside of your source range)

is it worth trying to move one tile at a time and make them separate moves rather than grabbing the whole rectangle area, at least while troubleshooting?

[rare prawn]

All of the floor items

[latent mauve]

This looks like your tile coordinates are off

[rare prawn]

the plants, lamps, carpet, floor pillow

[latent mauve]

If you use debug ppp while standing in your item's destined location (the top left corner of the selection box), does it match up with what you got from debug mode?

[rare prawn]

Only the top blue and pink plant and the middle lamp

Everything else is in random spots

for the previous attempts it was even messier

[rare prawn]

this was the first one when I tried to move all the items, including wall stuff

[latent mauve]

Have you tried to individually move one of the items that is placing wrongly, just to be sure?

[rare prawn]

I tried to move the wall items separately from the floor items, but right when it seemed to be proving fruitful some weird stuff happened where half of the top section moved all the way over to the right way outside of the coordinates, and one of the left plants were missing

This is the layout of the floor items:
https://i.imgur.com/fNozvbF.png

They are all supposed to move to 3,7

Well, like the top left corner of the layout is

Only the top row seemed to behave this time around, minus the carpets...

The carpets did their own thing

[latent mauve]

And your new map is expanding from the right and down of the old map, right?

So your coordinates for the walls at the top and left are the same?

[rare prawn]

It would normally look like this if I didn't use the IndoorItemMoves:

[latent mauve]

Okay, that answers my question

And if you only did a vertical move, do some of the items still move out of alignment?

[rare prawn]

I can check, just a sec

https://i.imgur.com/6reSoId.png

                {
                "Source": { "X": 0, "Y": 6 },
                "Destination": { "X": 0, "Y": 7 },
                "Size": { "X": 9, "Y": 9 }
                }
            ],```

https://i.imgur.com/uPQzzqf.png

                {
                "Source": { "X": 0, "Y": 6 },
                "Destination": { "X": 1, "Y": 7 },
                "Size": { "X": 9, "Y": 9 }
                }
            ],```

I tried 2 different coordinates just in case I messed up with the 0

I did 0,7 and 1,7

Which should've put them down 1 tile if I am not being super dumb

I am so confused lol

[rancid temple]

Well, you could always try creating individual entries for each thing you want to move

[rare prawn]

Like for each individual tile?

[latent mauve]

Yeah, that was why I said to try it one one to test first

[rancid temple]

Only other weird thing I'm seeing is that your Size X is 9 but probably should be 7. I have no clue if that would cause issues though

[latent mauve]

Oh, the size is a good call, change that too

[rare prawn]

Yeh I made it bigger after a few attempts

I was still having issues when it was a 7 x.x I made it bigger just in case I was making it too small

[latent mauve]

Quite honestly, I would have tried each of the corners individually, as a 2x2 or 3x3

[rancid temple]

I'm wondering if it's having issue with placing the items because of collision checks

[latent mauve]

And then if it still got wonky, try moving it only on one axis.

[rare prawn]

I will try the tiles individually and see what happens

[rancid temple]

With these size based movements, I could easily see this grabbing something that was already moved and moving it again lmao

Rather than establishing all the moves that need to be done and then completing them at once, it does each move then goes to the next

So if you aren't moving them far enough away, the overlap would mess it up

[rare prawn]

Doesn't seem to be working either
https://i.imgur.com/j5s2lyY.png
There is a hanging plant still stuck at 1,1 - and for some reason the hanging plant on the right swapped with one of the blue hanging flowers?

                { "Source": { "X": 0, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 3, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 1, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 4, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 2, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 5, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 3, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 6, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 4, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 7, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 5, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 8, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 6, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 9, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 7, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 10, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 8, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 11, "Y": 1 } }
            ],```

Maybe I need to reverse the order?

[rancid temple]

Where are you getting your source numbers from?

I think it might be based on the new locations coordinates and not the old

Based on your new location all those Source coordinates would be the top of the map where nothing is

[rare prawn]

I was taking them from the new location

I tried the Y 0 but nothing moved, once I changed to Y 1 things moved

[rancid temple]

Oh, those things up top did move

[rare prawn]

I tried reversing the order, hoping it would help the priority?
https://i.imgur.com/KRVN2BV.png
The hanging plant on the left is where it should be now, but the blue hanging flowers decided to randomly go to the right still

                { "Source": { "X": 8, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 11, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 7, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 10, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 6, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 9, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 5, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 8, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 4, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 7, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 3, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 6, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 2, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 5, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 1, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 4, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 0, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 3, "Y": 1 } },
            ],```

I have a feeling if I keep going with the pattern that things will start to randomize again, cause idk why the dried flowers are on the right

The dried flowers were originally at 2,1 - should be at 5,1 but they're at 11,1 o.O

I'll try one more thing I can think of

ugh that reload patch command thing yall gave me earlier is chefs kiss idk how I went so long without it

[rancid temple]

I think you have to get more granular with the order of moving things

[rare prawn]

https://i.imgur.com/M2Zu4FE.png

Apparently it did not like that extra line of code that moved nothing

                { "Source": { "X": 7, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 10, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 6, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 9, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 5, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 8, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 4, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 7, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 3, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 6, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 2, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 5, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 1, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 4, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 0, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 3, "Y": 1 } },
            ],```

[rancid temple]

You might also want to try doing a full close the game and relaunch it occasionally, patch reload is nice but sometimes the game doesn't like when you do it lol

[rare prawn]

Ohh good advice

Okay now that I have all the lines that for sure move an item/object and know the dimensions 100% I am gonna try fiddling with the size option again and see if it'll behave this time, if not then I will continue moving things individually and keep going row by row to make sure nothing is weird >:3

                { "Source": { "X": 7, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 10, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 6, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 9, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 5, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 8, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 4, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 7, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 3, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 6, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 2, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 5, "Y": 1 } },
                { "Source": { "X": 1, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 4, "Y": 1 } },
            ],```

[brittle ledge]

Hi everybody! The modding wiki is now updated with a new, thorough 1.6 tutorial on adding new fish to the game! Add ALL THE FISH! https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Adding_a_New_Fish

[latent mauve]

Friends, does anyone know whether or not there is a reason why the "When": { "HasFlag:anyPlayer": "Island_W_Obelisk" }, would be just.... not working for one of my patches?

The wiki says it's a legitimate mailflag for when the Farmer has unlocked the Farm Obelisk, and my JSON is valid

But the map patch isn't happening

[hybrid talon]

Coming back to my mod project trying to remember wtf I was doing and how my code worked

Or more specifically how it's not working

Did I actually write all of this?? I don't remember that

[brittle ledge]

I assume nothing is happening in your log? Did you just unlock the obelisk today?

[latent mauve]

yeah, just used debug commands to get the walnuts and unlock it so that it would be easier to test

nothing in the log

[brittle ledge]

Sleep and see if it works the next in-game day

[royal stump]

it's added to "mail for tomorrow" on construction, yeah

[latent mauve]

ahhh, I see.

[lucid iron]

You will have to post it in a more readable form if you want help with that

[latent mauve]

slightly awkward then

It's a roof view of the island farmhouse, so it's a bit weird to have the obelisk there but not on my map when it instantly poofed into place in the vanilla map xD

[royal stump]

HasFlag does claim it checks tomorrow's mail in the CP docs, though

[latent mauve]

Mailbox flag was instant, so I wouldn't expect that one to be delayed.

[hybrid talon]

Nah I'm just joking about how much I have to read through lol
(I can talk about non-help-requests in here, right?)

[lucid iron]

Yep anything's fine as long as u be making a mod

[latent mauve]

....and nevermind, I don't think the mailbox flag was instant either, I didn't fix that post in the map file

[royal stump]

Island_W_Obelisk and Island_UpgradeHouse_Mailbox are both coded identically (and right next to each other), so maybe there's another issue involved

ah, nvm

[lucid iron]

It's just that ppl come here with unreadable screenshots with intent of asking question all the time

[latent mauve]

I've been saving so many copies of this dang map

[hybrid talon]

Question, does anybody know if 1.6 changed the code about mouse events?

(How/where they're handled, etc.)

[calm nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/ninjala-jane-hacker-hacking-computer-gif-20337624

Chue, my code doesn't work

Please see the gif

[calm nebula]

Should not have any changes

[lucid iron]

Did you try typing really fast like in the movies

[hybrid talon]

Hmmm

[latent mauve]

It's working now after a sleep, yep

[hard fern]

Looooong island hut

[hybrid talon]

I might have broken my own code when I last worked on it, I can't remember now
I know I had simulated clicks working at one point

[latent mauve]

Yeah, had to fake scaling it because building interiors don't follow the rules xD

I just need to remove the bonus windows now

[hybrid talon]

Oh the thing I thought was wrong is not the thing that is actually wrong

[lucid mulch]

does the patch have an UpdateRate which would give CP a reason to revalidate?

[latent mauve]

It does not

[lucid mulch]

out of the box Contentpatcher only revalidates on daystarted

[latent mauve]

Ah, so even if I just did a "OnLocationChange" update rate, it would possibly be able to apply the patch same day?

[lucid mulch]

yes

[latent mauve]

A little harder to test on that file now that I had to sleep a day. xD

[hybrid talon]

Okay, does anybody know why this code would produce a click with a significant offset?

if (config.leftClick.JustPressed()){

ICursorPosition cursorPos = this.Helper.Input.GetCursorPosition();
Game1.activeClickableMenu.receiveLeftClick(Game1.getMouseX(), Game1.getMouseY());
Monitor.Log("Recieved left click", LogLevel.Debug);
return;

}

I'm not sure if I'm doing something stupid or what

I think this worked before 1.6 though

[calm nebula]

You need to do things in ui mode

GetmouseX should have an override for that

[hybrid talon]

Okay I found uimode
Looks like it takes an Action but I can't figure out how to convert the getmousex into that, is an Action a c# thing?

Trying to find a c# documentation somewhere to find that out but google hates me I think

Wait I think I'm looking at the wrong thing

Hmmm

[lucid iron]

does [ContentSerializer(Optional = true)] do anything of note when it comes to making content patcher custom assets

[hybrid talon]

Can't remember how to build my project now
I never work in c#

Might not have enough things installed on this computer yet

Should probably read the instructions again

[lucid iron]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[uncut viper]

ive used those attributes before and i can confidently say that i have no idea

[lucid iron]

ive never used those cus nothing seems to explode when you dont

[uncut viper]

i took the idea to use them from someones repo but i dont remember where or when

[lucid iron]

it is just that

they r a lie when it comes to content patcher anyways

things not marked with ContentSerializer can still end up being null

[hybrid talon]

Okay this might be a stupid question, but I can't figure out how to get dotnet6
I installed the ubuntu backports repository because it looks like they've made only dotnet8 available through the regular repositories since I last installed it, but I can't figure out what the package is called to install it now

[brittle pasture]

I don't think you need to install the dotnet 6 SDK, you just need to target 6.0

you can use any SDK/runtime that's newer

[calm nebula]

(No)

I suspect it's used for the xnb builder

[hybrid talon]

Oh you might be right
I did have to install a sdk of some version at least though (didn't have 8 either)

I did figure out the problem, though, which is that microsoft said on their backports page that you don't need to run apt update after adding their repository, and that was just a straight-up lie

[hybrid talon]

Also thanks for this, this fixed most of my problems

[lucid iron]

if ur on linux u can use the manual dotnet install script or AUR

[hybrid talon]

I think I have stuff installed now

Was able to build and run at least

[ivory plume]

The item docs on the wiki have been overhauled!

See Modding:Items for the new overview page, which links to more specific pages like Modding:Objects. That also includes new pages for the previously undocumented wallpaper/floorpaper and mannequin item types.

[zealous moth]

Does someone have a list of mods that will enrich fishing and such?(except cheats)

[lucid mulch]

if you want to make it optional, correctly mark it as nullable in C# syntax.
Vanilla can't because of legacy branch (and other reasons) meaning it can't use anything that the old .NET Framework builds dont have

[rancid temple]

#modded-stardew would probably be a better place to ask

[zealous moth]

Oh

Ty

[gentle rose]

does anyone know why nexus is simultaneously saying that my mod is and isn't published 😭

is that common initially?

[rancid temple]

Common enough

Depends on what they're doing to their backend/the current traffic and whatever is happening with caching at any given time

[gentle rose]

thanks. I'm kinda freaked out because I have no idea if I uploaded it right lol. Why is uploading to nexus more complicated than writing the mod 😭

[rancid temple]

Older than dirt website

[tiny zealot]

nexus has a CDN, so depending on how stuff is migrating around and which node you hit, you see different results

generally you gotta wait some amount of time for things to become consistent

[lucid iron]

just go to sleep

it'll work out by time u wake up

[gentle rose]

I think it's worked out now. Thanks for bearing with me guys 😅 this is a massive favour to ask, but would any of you who know what you're doing be willing to check that I uploaded it correctly? if not dw, I just want to make sure

the link is https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/30108/

[ivory plume]

I suggest adding install instructions on Nexus (see template mod page on the wiki) and a code license on GitHub, but otherwise that looks fine to me.

[gentle rose]

Thanks for checking! Can't believe I forgot a license haha

[drowsy pewter]

Install instructions: Even though 95%+ of mods are installed the same way, every mod can be someones first mod! So I usually try to add instructions

[brave fable]

it never hurts to start with 'download smapi, download the dependencies, download this mod, then add them all to your mods folder'

[brittle pasture]

hmm didn't know the mod page template exists

[lucid iron]

hm i forgot to add the install instructions on some mods

here is hoping the smapi requirement is sufficient

[modest dagger]

u know it won't be

[lucid iron]

here is hoping my stuff is niche enough

(ill go back and add it eventually)

[modest dagger]

sve compat?

[lucid iron]

nou

[modest dagger]

I got a comment asking that on my desert festival foods mod, like i'm just adding recipes what the hell am i infringing on?

[lucid iron]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/images/7/70/WillitworkwithSVE.png?20230618231453

[ivory plume]

(Fun fact: someone once asked if SMAPI is compatible with SVE.)

[modest dagger]

my god they're everywhere

[brave fable]

people just want to be sure. sometimes i wonder how much worry old-love of cooking caused when people installed a cooking menu mod and had it change recipe buffs

any mod can do anything

[lucid iron]

can i learn to cook with loc

[uncut viper]

i mean SVE changes a lot of things, that wouldnt even be that out there of an overlap

[lucid iron]

i am entranced by the pizza animation...

[brave fable]

of course. just fry some sugar and milk in a pan for a while to get icecream

[modest dagger]

sorry fry?

[lucid iron]

you joke but this is a thing in hongkong

[gentle rose]

All sorted now! I also added a readme to my repo (which I also forgot, too long spent without coding 💀)

[gentle rose]

...but will it

[brittle pasture]

LOC is unrealistic, you need to also add copper/iron/gold/iridium pots/woks/spatulas/ladles/baking trays alongside the frying pans

[modest dagger]

or you could just change the pan to 'cooking set'

[lucid iron]

prismatic yolk separator

[calm nebula]

Loc is unrealistic. Where is my best knife, bluebs

And my bench scraper

And my silicone spatula

[brittle pasture]

sorry, your frying pan is iridium but you didn't upgrade your egg beater, no ice cream for you

[brave fable]

this recipe requires an orichalcum tea strainer.

[calm nebula]

What if it is protein powder ice cream

[brittle pasture]

reminds me of the cheese scraper I bought on a whim and used exactly once some time last year

[modest dagger]

use it again rn

[brave fable]

i know it should be fairly self-explanatory, but what exactly does a cheese scraper do

[brittle pasture]

grater
the word is grater
english hard

[lucid iron]

is it those mysterious wedges with holes i seen on tom and jerry

[calm nebula]

Oh I have a cheese grater

[uncut viper]

tbf cheese scraper is almost a thing too

[calm nebula]

I use it 100% to grate bars of soap

[brave fable]

doesn't everyone have a cheese grater? how do u grate cheese

[uncut viper]

you were close

[brittle pasture]

someone who eats cheese once every 2 years

[calm nebula]

I don't grate cheese, I take bites out of the block like a savage

Dude I can eat an entire wheel of brie by myself in a week

[lucid iron]

but can u homf a whole stack of 999

[calm nebula]

Probably not tbh

[lucid mulch]

very briefly there have been SMAPI builds that are incompatible with SVE, if viewed in that specific direction

[teal bridge]

A week? That's like, less than an ounce a day.

[rare prawn]

Okay so I have tested a whole lot of different methods now, including moving the floor items column by column, row by row, individually, by the whole area, and I am lost
This is the closest I have come to success, and I still feel like this will fail as soon as I put a 2x2 wall item in the mix instead...
https://i.imgur.com/8QLywUF.png

                { "Source": { "X": 7, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 10, "Y": 1 }, "Size": { "X": 1, "Y": 2, } },
                { "Source": { "X": 6, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 9, "Y": 1 }, "Size": { "X": 1, "Y": 2, } },
                { "Source": { "X": 5, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 8, "Y": 1 }, "Size": { "X": 1, "Y": 2, } },
                { "Source": { "X": 4, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 7, "Y": 1 }, "Size": { "X": 1, "Y": 2, } },
                { "Source": { "X": 3, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 6, "Y": 1 }, "Size": { "X": 1, "Y": 2, } },
                { "Source": { "X": 2, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 5, "Y": 1 }, "Size": { "X": 1, "Y": 2, } },
                { "Source": { "X": 1, "Y": 1 }, "Destination": { "X": 4, "Y": 1 }, "Size": { "X": 1, "Y": 2, } },
                
                { "Source": { "X": 7, "Y": 3 }, "Destination": { "X": 10, "Y": 4 }, "Size": { "X": 1, "Y": 2, } },
                { "Source": { "X": 6, "Y": 3 }, "Destination": { "X": 9, "Y": 4 }, "Size": { "X": 1, "Y": 2, } },
                { "Source": { "X": 5, "Y": 3 }, "Destination": { "X": 8, "Y": 4 }, "Size": { "X": 1, "Y": 2, } },
                { "Source": { "X": 4, "Y": 3 }, "Destination": { "X": 7, "Y": 4 }, "Size": { "X": 1, "Y": 2, } },
                { "Source": { "X": 3, "Y": 3 }, "Destination": { "X": 6, "Y": 4 }, "Size": { "X": 1, "Y": 2, } },
                { "Source": { "X": 2, "Y": 3 }, "Destination": { "X": 5, "Y": 4 }, "Size": { "X": 1, "Y": 2, } },
                { "Source": { "X": 1, "Y": 3 }, "Destination": { "X": 4, "Y": 4 }, "Size": { "X": 1, "Y": 2, } },
                
                { "Source": { "X": 1, "Y": 6 }, "Destination": { "X": 4, "Y": 7 }, "Size": { "X": 7, "Y": 9, } },
            ],````

What am I doing wrong??

https://i.imgur.com/lBBJZYk.png

The layout without IndoorItemMoves looks like this normally (minus a few changes I made to items to help me differentiate which ones were moving where after a few tries) after an upgrade:

just so yall know how wonky this is

[rare prawn]

This is when I did each individual tile:

Please ping me if you reply to my plea I might pass out soon

[woeful herald]

hi, uh, I want to modify the game's quest, but the wiki is very ambiguous, is there a more detailed guide?

[brittle ledge]

A regular quest (like Robin's axe) or a special order?

[gentle rose]

do you guys ever open what you thought was an old mod of yours but is actually a big plate of spaghetti? because I just did 😭 there's more errors than code I think

[rancid temple]

Even my working code reminds me of spaghetti usually

[gentle rose]

so imagine a single project with like three mods all mixed together, all using outdated functions from pre 1.6 and with no comments to be seen

all in one class file

[brittle ledge]

I was going over my code for fish while writing my tutorial and past me has stumped myself with what one of my context tags is for

[rancid temple]

Essentially my junk drawer project but I started in 1.6 so nothing has become outdated yet lol

[gentle rose]

the sidebar showing all the errors

[rancid temple]

I've definitely opened a few old mods intending to update them and decided I'd rather just rewrite the whole thing than look at all that red

[gentle rose]

that's likely going to be where this is headed

because it also has hard dependencies on multiple mods (I think I might have hardlinked their dlls?)

but hey, it was compatible with ridgeside lol. Idk which part needed special ridgeside compatibility, but something apparently did because there are patches for that in the code

[hybrid talon]

Successfully fixed my mod

Now I need to remember what else I wanted to do with it lol

I should have made a todo list

I know I want to put some visual indications of what keyboard shortcuts do what into the game but that involves figuring out how sprites work I think...

Or maybe not, I'd mostly be adding text

I'm not really sure what it would involve

Which is why I haven't done it yet lol

[woeful herald]

A regular quest

the special order's description is very detailed

I need more about regular quests

[brittle ledge]

I don't think we have any tutorials about quests

Your best bet might be to find a mod with them implemented in 1.6 and look at what it does

Ridgeside and Lousis's Garage off the top of my head do, but I don't know if they're implemented in CP

I think Jane does?

[woeful herald]

...

thank you

[gentle rose]

I'm honestly shocked any part of that mod still works but here we go (original light radius in the top right, modified radius in the middle). Now time to see if I can apply it to non-craftable lighting

[velvet narwhal]

Have you looked at [[Modded:Quests]]

Op

[[Modded:Quests]]

[rancid temple]

It would work in-line, might not be called that lol

[velvet narwhal]

I'm on mobile so I'd have to dig

[rancid temple]

[[Modding:Quest data]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Quest_data

[rancid temple]

I would assume they have though, because this page is microscopic lmao

[velvet narwhal]

Tbf it's a pretty straightforward string delimited

The only fancy shenanigans I can see involves understanding what you can get away with in terms of dialogue

[uncut viper]

its straight forward to map the indices to the things they c ontrol, yeah, but looking at this page, id have no idea how to make like, any quest that i dont manually remove with a trigger action

like, what goes in "Solution/Trigger"
what the heck are all the quest types

[velvet narwhal]

Oh it is old, appending with modid# rather than the cp token

[rancid temple]

A lot of quests are completed through hardcoding lol

[velvet narwhal]

While true, "what the heck are all the types" I do tend to stare at the unpacked for thr mysterious questions

Yeah AFAIK special orders were kind of meant to... replace...? Modded Quests?

[uncut viper]

the unpacked wont tell you if all the types are used in vanilla though

[brittle pasture]

special orders still have time limits that you cant get around without C#

not quite quest replacement

[uncut viper]

i also doubt CA is really thinking that much about mods when adding entirely new features

[velvet narwhal]

That's fair. There are a few things that definitely screams, "built for modded" though like the animal skins

[uncut viper]

thats far from the "entirely new f eature" i meant though

[velvet narwhal]

Rise up for updated data models

[brittle pasture]

0 days since selph begged for crafting/cooking data model in vanilla

[faint ingot]

Does a mail flag's name have to already exist in Data/Mail for it to be sent by AddMail in an event or trigger action? This would be for a flag that is not an actual piece of mail

[uncut viper]

mail flags dont have to correlate to real mail

so they dont have to exist in data/mail at all

[faint ingot]

OK, thank you. I'm kind of confused because I followed advice (I think yours) the other day about incrementing stats to affect mail counters, but it doesn't seem like the mail part is working although the stat part is. This is the code: { "Action": "EditData", "Target": "Data/TriggerActions", "Entries": { "{{ModId}}_StartPierreJail14": { "Id": "{{ModId}}_StartPierreJail14", "Trigger": "DayEnding", "Condition": "PLAYER_HAS_MAIL Any {{ModId}}_Flag_StartPierreJail14", "Actions": [ "AddMail All {{ModId}}_Flag_PierreInJail", "AddConversationTopic {{ModId}}_PierreInJail 15", "IncrementStat {{ModId}}_PierreJailSentence -99999", "IncrementStat {{ModId}}_PierreJailSentence 15", "RemoveMail All {{ModId}}_Flag_StartPierreJail14", ] }, "{{ModId}}_PierreJailTimeServed": { "Id":"{{ModId}}_PierreJailTimeServed", "Trigger": "DayEnding", "Condition": "PLAYER_HAS_MAIL Any {{ModId}}_Flag_PierreInJail", "Actions":[ "IncrementStat {{ModId}}_PierreJailSentence -1", "If PLAYER_STAT Any PierreJailSentence 0 0 ## RemoveMail All {{ModId}}_Flag_PierreInJail", ] }, } },

[uncut viper]

have you waited a day

[faint ingot]

one day after the event yes

[uncut viper]

i dont remember which mailbox player_has_mail checks by default

[faint ingot]

and the stat counter changed, but the mail pieces didn't seem to fire

[velvet narwhal]

because you haven't specified a <time> after the mail's ID, it will get sent as a real mail "tomorrow"

[faint ingot]

ah ok

[velvet narwhal]

AddMail All {{ModId}} Received is what you're looking for as a "flag"

[uncut viper]

if its just a flag and not a real letter actually it shouldnt be stopping those triggers from working

it would jus lead to a phantom letter in the mailbox

since player_has_mail checks "Any" mailbox which includes "coming tomorrow"

are these triggers supposed to be repeatable?

[faint ingot]

yes

[velvet narwhal]

if you're trying to do a daycounter though, IncrementStat will not work afaik because IncrementStat won't be readable?

[uncut viper]

you'll need to add "MarkActionApplied": false to them then

you can read player stats

[velvet narwhal]

i can't remember exactly what i was trying to do, but the incrementstat thing when i was trying to lengthen a process would be screwy in terms of it's activation

[faint ingot]

so the weird part is this... the "IncrementStat" counter is incrementing as intended, which means PLAYER_HAS_MAIL Any {{ModId}}_Flag_PierreInJail is evaluating to TRUE, right? but this is what I get ont he console

[uncut viper]

theres nothing wrong with incrementstat as long as you get the timings right

[velvet narwhal]

ah

i just kind of got around it by using addconverationtopic <modid> days as my own counter

[uncut viper]

have you double checked thats your modid?

also when you say its incrementing as intended do you mean the -1 in the second trigger action?

[uncut viper]

or do you mean the 15 in the first?

[faint ingot]

yes, it is getting -1

I originally had it set to 3 for testing and when i checked it, it said 2

[uncut viper]

then you are removing the mail right after?

[faint ingot]

i'm only removing the "start14" mail

[uncut viper]

thats not what your json says

[faint ingot]

I remove the: "PierreInJail" mail after the counter reaches 0

[uncut viper]

"If PLAYER_STAT Any PierreJailSentence 0 0 ## RemoveMail All {{ModId}}_Flag_PierreInJail"

this is removing the mail that it just checked for

[faint ingot]

yes if the stat is between 0, and 0. correct?

[uncut viper]

correct. not the start14 one

[faint ingot]

that's the intended behavior

[uncut viper]

so then of course the GSQ will evaluate to false after, you just removed the mail

[faint ingot]

This is the part I mean: "Condition": "PLAYER_HAS_MAIL Any {{ModId}}_Flag_PierreInJail", "Actions":[ "IncrementStat {{ModId}}_PierreJailSentence -1", "If PLAYER_STAT Any PierreJailSentence 0 0 ## RemoveMail All {{ModId}}_Flag_PierreInJail", ] },

[uncut viper]

i know. you are removing the same mail that the condition is checking

[faint ingot]

but only if the counter is 0, which it shouldn't be

and isn't

[velvet narwhal]

oh

[rancid temple]

You're checking the wrong stat

[velvet narwhal]

you've forgotten {{ModId}}_ before your If

[faint ingot]

ah thank you

[velvet narwhal]

so it's defaulting to 0 0 because it doesn't exist

[uncut viper]

i got confused by the removing start14 thing and missed that entirely

[rancid temple]

I had to jump around a bunch before I even noticed it lol

[velvet narwhal]

8 pairs of eyes are nice

roku and i noticing on the same tick 🤝

[faint ingot]

: )

[uncut viper]

8... pairs?

who are the 4 lurkers

[velvet narwhal]

brain no good brain had a sushi nap

[uncut viper]

8 pairs of eyes, 0 brain cells among us

[rancid temple]

I'm wearing glasses, so that's an extra pair

[velvet narwhal]

time to see what uber will force me to do today

[faint ingot]

so while I'm updating this, it would be better practice for me to put "received" after I set the mail flag?

[uncut viper]

yes

otherwise, the player will get a letter icon over their mailbox

but when they click it'll do nothing

[rancid temple]

Spooky

[brittle pasture]

"must have been the wind"

[velvet narwhal]

i can't update a sprite while a player is looking at an NPC, huh

[uncut viper]

why not

make them spin in a poof of wind-like swirls a la The Sims

[rancid temple]

Make their previous skin slough off, to reveal the new

[velvet narwhal]

the inner demon is speaking to a "bucket" item that can be gifted to my shopkeeps that forces their dialogue to say "Must be the wind."

with, obviously, a bucket on their heads

[uncut viper]

some may call this junk...

[rancid temple]

PTSD activated

[velvet narwhal]

i mean i'm already putting in the pothat "Let Me Solo Her" for tia

[brittle pasture]

are you also adding the dual Rivers of Blood

[velvet narwhal]

i do not want to go down the crazy rabbit hole of dual wielding that casey has done

i can probably make them floating trinkets though?

shadowcloned trinket

[lucid mulch]

have the parrot swarm cover them up while the asset swap occurs which ginger island uses to do various upgrades

[uncut viper]

id download a mod just to see that

[velvet narwhal]

oh y'know ig i can just force an event

[rancid temple]

Terraprisma

[velvet narwhal]

force event upon bucket gifted, it updates sprite after event

[uncut viper]

can you make an event that is just a fade to black then it fades out bc the event instantly ended

[velvet narwhal]

(wired brain, figure out how to put hats on NPCs)

[uncut viper]

like your farmer blinked or something

[velvet narwhal]

probably yeah

i'd have to dynamically get the farmer position using c# and write said event in c# though

[uncut viper]

what do u mean probably i was asking you specifically bc you're the person i know who does events

[velvet narwhal]

i know my limitations

[uncut viper]

i was thinking it would be like there wasnt an event at all so no need to get the positions

just literally like you talk to them, screen fades to black, then it fades back in as if nothing happened, but the npc has changed

since i dunno another way to trigger a fade to black in vanilla on the spot like that

[lucid mulch]

that would still throw them back to a warp location though iirc

[velvet narwhal]

i'm probably also misremembering end and it just dumps the farmer in the position that the event started on, right?

[uncut viper]

really? huh

[velvet narwhal]

yeah that's what i meant

[uncut viper]

what about events that start from a tile action though?

[rancid temple]

Just draw a black box on the screen that's 10kx10k

[velvet narwhal]

i think i'd have less of a hassle just dynamically getting the farmer position per npc gifted

[lucid mulch]

Actually the community centre intro one has one to end someone on the exact tile, but isn't where they started

while broadcastEvent that hijacks multiplayer people leaves them where they started

[brittle pasture]

yeah events can choose where to dump the player when it ends

[velvet narwhal]

i'd preferably leave the position alone

i could obviously force to know exactly where the player is standing by only leaving 1 side of the 4 tiles open