making-mods-general

[lucid iron]

Don't bother exposing a CP token

[uncut viper]

there is no need for a token when you are doing it in C#

and it wouldn't work even if you did

[fervent horizon]

ok

makes sense

[lucid iron]

(but the cp token thing would have taken an Func<string> rather than a string)

[uncut viper]

(but also for future reference, just have a token return null if the save isn't ready)

[fervent horizon]

ok, off to break more code, thanks for the insights

[blissful panther]

Yeah, functionally this wouldn't be too bad with C#, but the usability of the minecart menu is another thing entirely!

[uncut viper]

probably more manageable if you make it an entirely separate network (dunno if that's already the plan) and just hope no one builds more than like 6 of the buildings lol

i wonder how viable it'd be to change the display name based on the paint color of the building? for easier identification in the list

[lucid iron]

Nah I think u should let ppl put a text sign

To name their building

It'll be great

[uncut viper]

i mean I do actually think that'd be great

a lot more work tho

[lucid iron]

It's for greatness

[uncut viper]

tho hmm.. a custom map/tile action on the interior that opens a naming menu and saves it to a dictionary isn't that bad actually

just have it be a dictionary of guid to display name and use that in assetrequested

you'd need to squash that dictionary into a string though to save it in the save data though ig

[fervent horizon]

I think when you set the destination, you can set the name to whatever you want

[uncut viper]

well
"Setting" a destination is another thing entirely still

i thought these buildings became destinations when they were constructed

[teal bridge]

Time for a "Minecart Menu" mod?

[rancid temple]

I had considered that too when I was looking at making a scrollable bus menu lol

But considering I never finished the bus menu, the minecart menu is even that much further away

[uncut viper]

I'd much prefer the pagination

[rancid temple]

I'd hate to see how many pages 108 destinations is

[uncut viper]

I'd hate to scroll through them even more!

[fervent horizon]

Integrated MC lets you set the carts you want, and how many show on screen at a time

[teal bridge]

Why? Tons of games have warp menus with scrolling. Many of them skip forward/back a page with L1/R1 triggers.

[lucid iron]

Minecraft menu mod where each destination has a lil preview

[uncut viper]

well any integration with Integrated Minecarts is out of my wheelhouse so you're on your own there

[rancid temple]

Ultimately I'd prefer scrolling with a search box lol

[fervent horizon]

I am pretty sure the authpr of it just manually adds new locations when people release map mods

[uncut viper]

i dislike menus that have scrollbars but are only like 3 entries tall, and the alternative is having the menu take up more vertical space which I also dislike. also, easier for me to remember a page number than how far to scroll

[teal bridge]

Obviously it wouldn't be 3 entries tall... the vertical space constraint seems a bit arbitrary.

[uncut viper]

everything about Stardew modding preferences is arbitrary

that's why they're preferences

[rancid temple]

Minecart dialogue box is like... 5 entries tall though isn't it? lol

Before it needs a new page

[fervent horizon]

vanilla is 5 I believe

[lucid iron]

Say did the warp network mod have nice menu?

[fervent horizon]

10 works pretty good on the Minecart menu

[lucid iron]

I never got to use it

[uncut viper]

i don't typically use mods that add more entries to it in the first place

[rancid temple]

Not sure which one is the warp network, I used to use a mod that let you set up more mini obelisks

That one I think had a scrolling menu, but I can't be sure anymore since I haven't used it since 1.5 lol

[teal bridge]

I mean, my suggestion was tongue-in-cheek and fairly blatantly self-serving, but objectively I can't see how a side-docked list of 50, 100 or more destinations with scrolling as necessary (+ wraparound and trigger buttons ideally) could ever be worse than a bottom-docked 5-line dialog box with 20 pages to sift through.

[uncut viper]

doesn't sound very objective to me then

[teal bridge]

It's obvious that the vanilla UI was only intended to support a tiny number of destinations, rather than any aesthetic choice.

[uncut viper]

you asked me why I preferred somethin and I answered, dunno what else you want me to say

[lucid iron]

I like the warp nexus thing from sve

[rancid temple]

Physical space warps are cool, but they take up a ton of space if you want them to look good at all

[lucid iron]

It's perhaps not most convienant but the fanfare of going through one is nice

[uncut viper]

i also like the Nexus

not the website tho

[lucid iron]

I don't like that u gotta go through the wizard basement tho

[rancid temple]

It only handles like what 8 locations and is roughly the size of a farmhouse

[lucid iron]

This is like changing lines on the metro

[uncut viper]

wizard basement?

[uncut viper]

isn't there an entrance in the backwoods

[lucid iron]

Yeah to get to Lance's buddie's private island

You need to first go to the wizard house

And then go to the warp to the island

[uncut viper]

my sve knowledge is out of date, I didn't know Lance had a buddy or an island

[lucid iron]

The witch's hut is also through there but I'll allow that one cus vanilla

[uncut viper]

im surprised they didn't add it to the backwoods Nexus

[brittle pasture]

I don't think there's space left in the nexus, unless you add an outer layer

[uncut viper]

they control the nexus tho. they are in charge of how much space there is

[latent mauve]

I am late to this discussion but I do like teleport hub stations that maintain a few carts or trains or warps, and then a separate menu to move between hubs

[brittle pasture]

future nexus shape, guaranteed space for every expansion mod

[uncut viper]

imo thatd be sick actually

[latent mauve]

Giving me Minecraft nether hub vibes, LOL

[uncut viper]

it gives me older gauntlet game hub vibes (i know its not exclusive to gauntlet sh) but i can see the nether hub thing too
hubs are cool you can pry that opinion from my cold dead hands

[cedar turtle]

ok, this might be a really dumb question, but how do I get tiled to use the sdv tilesheets?
I read the guide on the wiki but am confused. Adding tilesets needs a tsx file, but the tilesheets are pnh. And the re-using vanilla tileselts talks about an existing map with everything I want and a wrench in the tileset tab which doesn't exist?

[latent mauve]

There is no required tsx if you are using embedded tilesheets, AFAIK?

[cedar turtle]

no idea.

[latent mauve]

As long as your tileset's source path is in the same folder as your map when editing (and where your map gets Loaded to virtually), then it should automatically pull the correct vanilla sheet

[cedar turtle]

If not, how can I make a map with tiled then?

[hallow prism]

tsx is just if you need specific info, and i suppose you meant png

[latent mauve]

I build my maps inside the unpacked Content/Maps folder and then copy the tmx into my mod folder when it's done

And then when I need to Load the map, I make sure the Target is inside Maps/

[fervent horizon]

You just need to include the png version of the tilesheets in your assets folder, and then when after you save the map, delete them

[cedar turtle]

it says tsx, and to convert the png to tsx

[uncut viper]

not necessarily in your assets folder. specifically, wherever your .tmx is

[fervent horizon]

well yeah, can be anywhere

[cedar turtle]

Well, I have nothing yet. Besides tiled and the unpacked content.
Didn't know everything has to be in the same place

[uncut viper]

a tilesheet is different from a tileset which is where the confusion between .tsx and whatnot is coming from but i do not know enough about mapmaking otherwise to feel confident explaining those parts

[fervent horizon]

I would go into the maps folder in the unpacked content and create the new map there

and after you finish and save, copy the file to your mod

[latent mauve]

Tilesheet directory climbing is a common error, which is why you need the PNGs in the same place as your TMX when editing, so it stays in the same directory

[fervent horizon]

but don't save as to your mod

that messes up the directories the map is expecting

[hallow prism]

it's mentioned that this is if you want to keep animations and stuff from an existing tsx file, and other methods are mentioned too

Adding a new custom tilesheet

If you made a your own tilesheet and are adding it to a map the first time, you can create a new tileset from image.

    Create your spritesheet and place it in the same folder as your .tbin or .tmx map file. This should be a PNG image with images divided into 16x16 tiles (see Modding:Editing XNB files#Intro for examples).
    Open the map in Tiled.
    Add the custom spritesheet:
        In the Tilesets pane, click the Modding - creating an XNB mod - Tiled 'new tilesheet' button.png button.
        Give it a descriptive name (like 'zcute bugs') and choose the image source.
        Make sure that Embed in map is checked.
        Keep the defaults for the other settings and click OK.```
For ex

[ornate trellis]

i just copy-paste the needed vanilla tilesheets into my asset folder until i am dome editing the map tbh

[latent mauve]

Valid, I like to not limit myself initially so having all of them in the same directory already is helpful to me.

[hallow prism]

my usual approach is to copy a vanilla map which will have usually other useful data anyway, add other png that way if i need any with prefacing if needed, and use tsx only on the case when i really need to have custom stuff with animations/property set already

if you give an example of what you want to do, we may suggest the best approach if you're still confused

[cedar turtle]

I want to make a farm map.

But without having any tilesheets available I just have blank spaces

[ornate trellis]

id rather start with a vanilla map because of all the needed data to have it easier

[hallow prism]

any reason why you don't want to start with a copy of a vanilla map in the unpacked map folder (or a copy of it)?

[ornate trellis]

you can always just delete the layers and readd them to have an empty map

[hallow prism]

it's easier to delete what you don't need than to add what you need that you don't even know you need yet

[ornate trellis]

then you keep the map properties and can just move around the TileData needed to the place you want

[cedar turtle]

You mean like editing a vanilla map?

[ornate trellis]

ya

[cedar turtle]

So just load one so everything is loaded and do all the changes I want?
I thought it's easier to just start one from scratch instead of massively revamping an existing one

[ornate trellis]

just be sure to not save over the original file or you have to unpack again if you ever need that specific map again (i did that too often to count anymore lol)

[hallow prism]

no, it's a pain to start from scratch, and advised to not do that (somewhere on the wiki but of course wiki is huge)

[cedar turtle]

good thing I copied the entire folder from my external drive lol

ah gotcha. Didn't know that

I just thought starting something new is easier than basically removing 90% of something and moving the rest xD

I suppose the same would go for farmhouses?

I kinda want to make both at some point (yeah, probably not the most ideal thing to start modding)

[rancid musk]

My source generators project is.. just about ready for proper early testing, I think? I've got attributes set up for SMAPI events, tile actions, touch actions, trigger actions, item resolvers, and GSQ conditions.

Oh, console commands. That's what I'm forgetting.

[blissful panther]

Already planned as a near future MEEP feature... almost certainly using some Stardew framework for UI, not sure if you've heard of it.

[latent mauve]

I'd definitely work from the default farmhouse also, if only to be considerate of the vanilla renovation spots in later upgrades.

Unless you want to rewrite all of the renovations to match your farmhouse, which can be a lot

[cedar turtle]

I feel like a farm is easier for starters
I'm already overwhelmed

[faint ingot]

out of curiosity I used a debug warp while in the SVE sprite springs. I am now swimming in my farm dirt.

[hollow hinge]

can i see a screenshot

that sounds hilarious

Im attempting to do a genderswap mod but the displayname seems to not work is there something wrong with the code?
im using Ladies of the Valley as a reference point

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/b2a6cfb87ec149d3868b2cf149fd2d51

[uncut viper]

this json doesnt show anything useful because its not any of the includes

also id recommend just changing your config schemas to true/false and not yes/no

[tender bloom]

Yeah warping while swimming is generally bad lol

[tardy adder]

Soil swimming

[tender bloom]

Setting up a swimming area can be a little tricky to prevent this

[long jungle]

"Condition": "PLAYER_HAS_SEEN_EVENT Current -1"

This condition only allows the action to execute if the player has already seen the "-1" event

Is there a way to make it a negative condition? Like, it should only execute the action if the player has NOT yet seen the event

[uncut viper]

put a ! at the start

[long jungle]

!PLAYER ?

[uncut viper]

!PLAYER_HAS_SEEN_EVENT Current -1

[long jungle]

Okay thanks

[hallow prism]

is -1 an example? i am not sure there's such an event id in current system

[hollow hinge]

CRAZY!

[latent mauve]

...it begins.

[long jungle]

Well, I checked debug mode for the Meowmere event...

It said "-1"

So -1 it is I guess

[hallow prism]

oh hmm, this one may be a bit special, so keep that in mind if you encounter issues

hopefully it'll work

[long jungle]

Thank you!

I'll try it out right now

I noticed it at first too

Other events had like 5 or more digits

And this one was like "-1"

[shadow pagoda]

If I have a question that is more about a data structure, but is related to a stardew mod, would I post it here, or in #programmers-off-topic ?

[uncut viper]

probably here

[rancid temple]

I think if you're trying to check if the player has seen the event that gives Meowmere, you would check the mail flag hasActivatedForestPylon

Looks like that event isn't a real kind of event, it's loaded very specifically from a strings file

[long jungle]

!PLAYER_HAS_MAIL Current hasActivatedForestPylon ?

[long jungle]

Interesting...

Thank you! I will try that out if the event check doesn't work

[hollow hinge]

So sorry! heres the json thats related to the character im currently working on
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/7ba0ae497b28423fa7960f4d224e9ce5

[green hedge]

hii, anyone willing to look over a content pack i made perchance ? smapi says everythings alright but when i get in game, nothings changed

not sure if im in the right channel for that

[rancid temple]

!json upload it to the validator and send the link here

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[lucid iron]

^that but also tell us what it's meant to do

[green hedge]

oh ! alright well its supposed to change the appearance of my baby in game

[lucid iron]

Are you trying to use littlenpc or just replacing the textures?

[green hedge]

just replacing the textures

[green hedge]

used it for both my content.json file and manifest.jason files and both have no errors

[lucid iron]

If you don't send link here we will never know what you did

[green hedge]

oh my bad

https://smapi.io/json/none/e7f74c45314844ae8556f1d7fdd1f7af

https://smapi.io/json/none/3a308fcd0e224a4ab487448faf86d850

[rancid temple]

looks like you're missing a }

Before the ] for Changes

[hollow hinge]

gosh thats embarrassig

but thank you!!!

[twilit quest]

We have all done it

Multiple times

^_^

[rancid temple]

Target shouldn't have .png in it

[uncut viper]

days later as i work on a thing i can now confirm it has two uses! it also rots the gold lewis statue and turns it into a rotten pumpkin (:

[green hedge]

oh alright let me try that

[lucid iron]

How does gold rot

[green hedge]

yeahhh still not working

[uncut viper]

your guess is as good as mine!

[green hedge]

uh

[uncut viper]

though more likely its Lewis placing the rotted pumpkin there

since the statue gets teleported to his house instead (or marnies)

[twilit quest]

I have a quick Content Patcher question. Is it possible to refer to a vanilla file in the FromFile when using EditImage? If so, how would I specify the path for that? I'm specifically talking about the images packaged with SDV - can I pull one of them when using CP, or must I have it as a part of my mod?

[rancid temple]

Can you share screenshots of your mods folder and your assets folder?

[calm nebula]

No

[green hedge]

yeah, no problem

[hollow hinge]

it works tysm guys!

[twilit quest]

I was afraid of that. Thank you!

[twilit quest]

Good job!

[hollow hinge]

now to do every other npc

[green hedge]

here

i got some other mods, maybe thats interfering ?

[rancid temple]

Nah, this works still

[brittle pasture]

aqua regia

[uncut viper]

you dont have an assets folder but you are telling CP to look inside the assets folder for Baby.png

[rancid temple]

When I said mods folder I meant the folder specific to your mod, but you did show me that, so you don't have an assets folder in your mods folder

So you either can add an assets folder and move Baby.png into it, or remove assets/ from the FromFile

[green hedge]

second pic is inside my assets folder

[uncut viper]

if your content and manifest.json are in your assets folder, thats incorrect

[rancid temple]

Your content.json and manifest.json should be in the parent folder of your mod

[green hedge]

OH alright

[uncut viper]

everything you write inside your content.json becomes relative to where your content.json is. wherever manifest.json is, thats your mod folder, as far as smapi is concerned

[rancid temple]

So you should have a folder for your mod, normally named whatever your mod is, with those two in there, and then if you want to organize it further you would have an assets folder inside that folder with the assets your mod uses

[green hedge]

alright, i arranged it like that and its still not working -_-

[rancid temple]

Uh, maybe show new pictures and upload and share the new json

[shadow pagoda]

I am making a decision tree that checks if the player has enough of the required items to make an omelet. Since there are multiple types of eggs that can be accepted for the recipe, I would like to make the tree reflect that. Right now it's only accepts white eggs.

However, I'm having issues figuring out how to make the tree dynamic since I also need boolean delegate (checkTask) to not take in any parameters via this method in my Decision class

private DecisionTreeNode GetBranch()
{
    if ((permanent && complete) || checkTask())
    {
        complete = true;
        return trueNode;
    }

    return falseNode;
}

The attached image here #making-mods-general message is the tree I am planning to hardcode for this recipe in the meantime. (Assume that there are more eggs that go down the false branch). Though I figure there has to be a better way to do this. Anyone have any advice? I don't want to spam this channel with code snippets, so I'll link to the project on github https://github.com/BlckHawker/Perfectionist-Interactive-Guide/tree/master. The main relevant files are DecisionTreeNode.cs ,Decision.cs Action.cs, and TaskManager.cs .

I already have a method that is able to get a branch of a single item, like a white egg, called GetProducableItemTree https://github.com/BlckHawker/Perfectionist-Interactive-Guide/blob/master/TaskManager.cs#L147-L260 in TaskManager.cs , but I'm unable to figure out how to make it dynamic since the qualifiedItemId needs to be defined by the time the branch is constructed. I know this is a large ask and people have other questions, so if you would like to dm me to have a more detailed conversation, I'm all for it.

[green hedge]

the content one ?

[rancid temple]

Yeah

Also, have you checked the log to make sure there's no errors/warnings

And are you sure the child is a baby and not a toddler

[green hedge]

when smapi opens ? yeah no everythings fine there

and yes

i have a picture of him.. my poor, unfortunately white baby /j

let me do the validator thing again, wait a sec

[shadow pagoda]

I forgot to attach the image

[green hedge]

https://smapi.io/json/none/a1915130eff0400d95af583a592ae0e5

here

[rancid temple]

You still have .png in your Target

[green hedge]

i do ??

I DO

[green hedge]

dude 😭

i think i didnt save

[rancid temple]

!vsc

[ocean sail]

When creating content mods, it's useful to have a program that will check the validity of your json for you. We tend to recommend either VSCode https://code.visualstudio.com/download or notepad++ https://notepad-plus-plus.org/downloads/

To use this command, type !vsc.

[rancid temple]

I like VSC because it autosaves

Not that that stops me from hitting Ctrl S everytime I finish typing something...

[green hedge]

ITS WORKING

THANK YOU SO MUCH

[green hedge]

oohh might try that out yeah

but yeah. thank you so much

this was my first content pack, i think im probably gonna do a whole lot more ahah

this is so cool

[desert pagoda]

Did json assets get updated to 1.6 if yes is the templates the same?

[rancid temple]

I believe it's updated in a "keeping the lights on" fashion, so it should be the same

[desert pagoda]

Now I am at a crossroads option A which is content patcher is a headache but is still supported while JA is no longer in vogue but it is A LOT easier to utilize

[uncut viper]

do not use JA

[desert pagoda]

But it appears to be simpler in every possible way

[rancid temple]

I don't think JA is going to get any additional support, aside from being updated so old mods continue to work

Though I have to imagine some day that will become too much trouble as fewer mods use it

[uncut viper]

its really not, and not going to be as supported, and will be a major headache for anyone else looking at your mod, and people will hate having to install JA for your mod as a depndency

[desert pagoda]

Even if it has no support, what it currently has allows me to do stuff simply, is it that bad?

Is support that important?

[uncut viper]

i would personally consider it that bad to intentionally use JA at this point yes

[rancid temple]

As long as you don't have any problems, then no support is whatever

But if you have any questions, the fact that very few people use it means you'll have a hard time finding anyone who can actually help you with it

[royal remnant]

Where does one find the inventories png file or sprite

[rancid temple]

And any mod that's becoming obsolete like that, I assume will eventually just stop getting updates

It's a Casey mod though, so I imagine it will continue getting updates until she burns out

Though, updates in this case just means, make it work in whatever latest version

[desert pagoda]

Why is content patcher such a headache?

[rancid temple]

I never used JA, I find CP to be very easy compared to a lot of other modding I've tried to do

[uncut viper]

content patcher modding is probablyh some of the simplest stardew modding you can do

[desert pagoda]

Honestly this is just kind of like between a sword and the wall for me

[royal remnant]

In what regaurds XD

Anyone happen to know what the inventory sprite is bundled with i cant find a singular

[long jungle]

!PLAYER_HAS_MAIL <player> <mail id> [type]

This works for "Condition": but not for "When":

Is it possible to make it work for "When":?

[uncut viper]

not without a different mod

When conditions are content patcher things. entirely unrelated to game state queries

you cannot use a GSQ in a when condition

[rancid temple]

There should be a mail flag check for When

[desert pagoda]

Content unpacked tilesheet has some equipment

[rancid temple]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/tokens.md#HasFlag

[long jungle]

Thank you so much

I'm gonna bookmark that page

[tender bloom]

CP modding has a much less human readable format for some assets

That’s my only objection really

Since this mostly is for furniture I don’t really do anything different

[long jungle]

If I do "!HasFlag": will it be a NOT condition?

[tender bloom]

No

That’s not CP format

“HasFlag|contains=FLAG”: false

[desert pagoda]

For me its just fill out a template with all the info you need vs try to understand documentation that reads like arcane text.

Are there content patcher templates?

[tender bloom]

I mean there’s the unpacked content

[uncut viper]

the unpacked content is the templates

[rancid temple]

I knew it was one of the goofy things, Maps/MenuTiles and Maps/MenuTilesUncolored

[long jungle]

Thank you, will try this out

[desert pagoda]

That also reads like arcane text

[rancid temple]

It's built piecemeal

[lucid iron]

if your brand new 2025 mod depends on json asset i will simply not use it

[desert pagoda]

The mod is mostly for me tbh

But I have been trying to switch to CP

[uncut viper]

if you are only doing it for yourself and dont care about publishing it then you can do whatever you want

less and less people in here over time will be able to help you with it

[desert pagoda]

But I know i have to tackle the headache of content patcher eventually so better get it over fast but

[rancid temple]

Ultimately even if you are gonna release it, it's up to you what you want to use

[desert pagoda]

Is there anywhere else to learn other than the documentation?

[rancid temple]

The wiki has examples, there's tutorials on the modding wiki and cracking open other CP mods that do things you want are usually the best methods

Modding wiki tutorials you gotta check carefully though, quite a few of them are outdated

[desert pagoda]

Modding wiki?

[lucid iron]

usually the best thing is to just find a mod that's close to what you want to do

[rancid temple]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Main_Page

[lucid iron]

and see how it's done

[desert pagoda]

Using other mods as a template!

BINGO!

Thank youi

[lucid iron]

the point isnt to copy things though, important to understand why they did this and that

[long jungle]

I do this a lot too. I check multiple similar mods and try to see how they do it and then apply what I learned for what I want to do. If there are no similar mods, I check unpacked content and sometimes I can just make it work.

[desert pagoda]

Also how to avoid a crowded content.json and dealing with syntax

[long jungle]

Make sure the similar mods are updated too. Otherwise, you may be learning the wrong things 😅

[long jungle]

I'm probably not the best person to answer that... so I'll let others answer you lol

[rancid temple]

!vsc will help a lot with making sure you're not missing things like brackets or commas

[ocean sail]

When creating content mods, it's useful to have a program that will check the validity of your json for you. We tend to recommend either VSCode https://code.visualstudio.com/download or notepad++ https://notepad-plus-plus.org/downloads/

To use this command, type !vsc.

[rancid temple]

You can also get content validation in VSC with schemas, trying to find where that page is

[desert pagoda]

Ah yeah the place on the smapi site

[green hedge]

question, if i change the name of my stardew valley mods folder is it gonna fuck things up ?

[desert pagoda]

Are you using a mod manager?

[rancid temple]

You means the folder called Mods?

[green hedge]

yes

[rancid temple]

If you aren't using some kind of mod manager, it will simply create a new folder called Mods and you'll have nothing in it

[green hedge]

im not sure tbh

oh alright

[rancid temple]

If you are using a mod manager, I am unsure because I don't use those

[green hedge]

welp, i just wont risk it

thank youuu

[royal remnant]

Thank you very much fam

[rancid temple]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/SMAPI/blob/develop/docs/technical/web.md#using-a-schema-file-directly
Schemas for various text editors that support them, I know VSC does

If you use the content.json schema, it'll give you real time validation on things/autofill capability

It doesn't have everything, but it shaves a lot of effort off

[long jungle]

"HasFlag|contains=hasActivatedForestPylon": "false",

[long jungle]

Invalid JavaScript property identifier character: |. Path 'Changes[23].When', line 2945, position 12.

[uncut viper]

sending the error without the json is not very good

[long jungle]

oops sorry

Edit: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/fa6990294dc44a698725be1a2b574422#L2971

[uncut viper]

well the highlighted line at that link is missing the quotes entirely

and on line 2971 it seems like you have some weird quotes which i think happened when you copied what Classical Mathperson put

and i dont think theyre being seen as actual quotes

[rancid temple]

Same at 2999

And 3026

[uncut viper]

(also i think you edited the link to a different line after so im assuming you caught the missing quotes on the original line 2945)

[long jungle]

Those quotes... 😆

[rancid temple]

Also, upon scrolling up, you have a ton of things without quotes

[uncut viper]

i actually think those are fine

thanks to newtonsoft magic

not usual, but functional

[long jungle]

Yes, I am aware and spoiled...

[rancid temple]

Ah newtonsoft, saving us from ourselves

[uncut viper]

you technically dont need quotes around the entry keys either iirc

unless you use spaces

or maybe any special character. idr

i tried at one point

[long jungle]

I use quotes when they really matter

[uncut viper]

its json5 standard to allow non-quoted keys like that and newtonsoft implements it even tho its not normal json standard

[rare orbit]

actually.... anyone here into sonic the hedgehog? how would ya'll feel about the villagers portraits in a sonic the hedgehog style?

[uncut viper]

it does help with syntax highlighting though to quote em

[long jungle]

I know it's a bad practice to not use them though...

[uncut viper]

(case in point them looking strange to people not used to it on the validator)

[long jungle]

Okay, so I fixed the softy quotation marks and now it says no error

Thank you for pointing those out

[rancid temple]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-include.md
I forgot to answer this earlier

Include lets you break up your content.json into several jsons, it makes it more annoying to get help troubleshooting because you have to upload and share more things, but when you have a big json it can declutter it

[desert pagoda]

Honestly I learn more from figuring out mistakes, I prefer getting help learning than help troubleshooting. (Honestly for me troubleshooting is more fun than making stuff for some weird reason)

It feels like the code equivalent of a doctor house episode

[long jungle]

Fun... but it sometimes takes a lot of time

[rancid temple]

It's also beneficial to get fresh eyes on a problem

[long jungle]

I do enjoy it though. Finally finding the issue feels so refreshing

[rancid temple]

Staring at the same blocks of code for hours can be frustrating

[desert pagoda]

Honestly this is like dark souls

True sometimes you need jolly cooperation to tackle a hard boss

But quick question can someone point me to where in the documentation content patcher tackles how to make weapons?

[tender bloom]

Content patcher documentation does not and is not intended to cover specific part of the content (other than maps vs images vs data)

[desert pagoda]

So how does one learn to alter those parts?

[tender bloom]

There may be tutorials, but it’s honestly the same as adding an object but you target a different asset with EditData

[long jungle]

Hmmm, never made a weapon before, only edited stats.

I suggest you check out other mods to learn em.

[tender bloom]

And use the weapons format

[lucid iron]

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[lucid iron]

do this and look at the game's content

[desert pagoda]

I have them unpacked

The issue isnt that I dont know how to unpack it its that I struggle to understand the game's content and how it relates to a patch

[long jungle]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Items#Weapons

wiki weapons format^^^

[desert pagoda]

Thank you

I am sorry for all the questions, its just really confusing to me tbh

but thank you

[lucid iron]

you gotta just try things in game

the errors tend to be descriptive of what u r do wrong

[royal remnant]

you still there roku?

[long jungle]

`{

"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/Weapons",
Entries": {

"FatCat.NewWeaponsMod/SuperChainsawSword": {
Name:"FatCat.NewWeaponsMod/SuperChainsawSword",
DisplayName:"Super Chainsaw Sword",
Type: "3"
Texture: "FatCat.NewWeaponsMod/weaponsprites"
SpriteIndex: "0"
MinDamage: "6",
MaxDamage: "15",
Knockback: "1",
Speed: "0",
Precision: "0",
Defense: "0",
AreaOfEffect: "0",
CritChance: "0.02",
CritMultiplier: "3",
CanBeLostOnDeath: "true"
},
}
}
`

I think this should work....?

[desert pagoda]

Oh thank you! I am currently dissecting a mod

Also gotta load the pngs

[long jungle]

I'm not too sure though since I only made that now from scratch

[long jungle]

Yep that too

I never understood what Type 0 and 3 Weapons are...

Like... how are Stabbing Swords different from Slashing Swords?..

And when I turned a Sword Type 0 to Sword Type 3 in the game, I didn't notice any differences with simple testing

Too few people fiddle with combat-related stuff so I believe no one knows much about em

[upper rune]

sorry if this is a silly question but how would I indicate an "OR" condition? As in, this is a multiseason crop it should be displaying in the shop in both summer and fall. I tried "Condition": "SEASON Summer" "SEASON Fall" and that did not work

[tender bloom]

If it’s a condition field that should be a GSQ

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Game_state_queries

[uncut viper]

for that GSQ specifically you can just do SEASON Summer Fall

[tender bloom]

using ANY also works (if they weren’t the same type)

[upper rune]

I will try that thank you!

[uncut viper]

(my own GSQ woes right now: theres no way to check the golden clock status with one ;_;)

it exists on netWorldState but not as a property so the GSQ for it wont work.... sad

[long jungle]

I like the wiki and author guides, but as a newbie myself, I find them only half-helpful.

Even one example per each would be really helpful for new people trying out modding ngl

They only become the most helpful when you already know a couple of things

[acoustic summit]

They are quite good, but yes most useful as a side resource / reference resource for filling in some gaps

[upper rune]

yeah i am refering to them but it can be hard to parse

[hallow prism]

Pathos added a lot of example and i added a couple but filling everything is a lot of work

[long jungle]

I will not disagree on that at all

[uncut viper]

the thing with content patcher is that editing one thing is conceptually the same as editing anything else

[hallow prism]

My mod also was used as a reference by lot of people needing examples

[uncut viper]

so if there is one example for, say, editing objects, thats really all you need to know how to edit any other asset

[lucid mulch]

The best examples are just unpacking the game and seeing how vanilla uses them

[lucid iron]

if u can edit Data/Machines u can edit everything

[hallow prism]

I suggest you add more example once you feel more confident

[uncut viper]

and providing examples for other specific things would be explaining just how the assets themselves work, which isnt really content patchers purview

[lucid iron]

that one's got every case

[acoustic summit]

absolutely, this is what I do most of the time when the wiki isnt enough

Or peek gamecode lol

[upper rune]

I am scared to unpack the game I don't want to corrupt it X(

[hallow prism]

If one person adds one then another another its a lot esnasier to get one for each stuff

[uncut viper]

unpacking the game does nothing to your files

[tender bloom]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Category:Tutorials

[uncut viper]

it is 100% entirely harmless to do so

and borderline essential for any modding

[tender bloom]

^^there are a variety of tutorials on the modding wiki

[lucid mulch]

its repacking them back into xnb which will cause bad things™️

[hallow prism]

Also

[uncut viper]

yes pls do not repack them

one way trips only

[tender bloom]

If you don’t see one you want, it’s a wiki, so you can make a new tutorial !

[hallow prism]

!reset is here in case you mess up

[ocean sail]

Please reset your game files. This will fix any broken game files, but won't affect your save files or mods.

If you use XNB mods, see using XNB mods for more info about why they're deprecated, and a list of Content Patcher alternatives.

To use this command, type !reset.

[calm nebula]

Me, traveling

[long jungle]

I never even once thought of that... diabolical

[uncut viper]

its how it used to be done

by necessity

[upper rune]

that is reassuring haha

[lucid mulch]

back in the stone age of modding

[long jungle]

Like with old mods?...

Hardcore

[uncut viper]

wasnt much option before content patcher

[calm nebula]

What are we now, the aluminum age?

[lucid mulch]

information age?

[calm nebula]

Hi, Mathperson!

I like aluminum.

Definitely a favorite metal

[hallow prism]

Im in a lumina age

[uncut viper]

(xnb mods are also still being made today, unfortunately)

[calm nebula]

You can use an xnb mod if you're brave enough

[lucid mulch]

Even after they all had to start from scratch due to 1.6 nuking all them?

[lucid iron]

u can always make a C# mod that does the loading

[long jungle]

I've read somewhere that it is now strongly discouraged

[uncut viper]

theres been a few monthly mod stats with +x xnb mods

[calm nebula]

(I considered packing Bella into an xnb so I could have her on mpbile.)

[lucid mulch]

would think 1.6 nuking everything would have been a great time to start using content patcher

[uncut viper]

november had +3

[rancid temple]

I was away. Generally if you have a question just shoot it out, usually someone will answer even if it wasn't someone you were discussing it with previously

[hallow prism]

But only once (joke because it reminds me of the "everything is edible" joke)

[uncut viper]

i think the major reason for most of the new xnb mods is non-english speakers not knowing how to make a non-xnb mod

[lucid iron]

sometimes ppl make both for whatever reason

[uncut viper]

mobile and switch have excuses too at least

(and psp vita i guess...)

[tender bloom]

Titanium is good too

[calm nebula]

What about steel

[tender bloom]

Also good, more complicated

What we call “steel” is actually like 12 bajillion different alloys with wildly different properties

[uncut viper]

how do you know what i call it

[tender bloom]

Aluminum and titanium, by comparison, really primarily are used in a couple of popular alloys

[lucid iron]

wolfram

[tender bloom]

Tungsten?

[lucid iron]

yes (but wolfram sounds cooler)

[uncut viper]

chu seems like the type to call it wolfram

[rancid temple]

For some reason that feels so mean

[uncut viper]

its not!! its a positive vibe i get

[calm nebula]

Why did someone make a Minecraft theme park

[tender bloom]

I associate wolfram much more with wolfram alpha

[rancid temple]

So goofy... harvesting forage grown from seeds on regular dirt gives you less foraging experience but also gives you some farming experience. Forage seeds grown in garden pots are treated as if they're just regular forage that just somehow found its way into the garden pot

[tender bloom]

Garden pots seem funky

Maybe blueberry knows more

[rancid temple]

I'm poking the code for them right now, they're awful lol

[uncut viper]

are you making a foraging overhaul mod

[lucid iron]

forage in garden pots are heldObjects

[rancid temple]

Nah, I'm making my own spin on the deluxe grabber mod, since the current one throws NRE's and the source for the 1.6 redux is not open source

[lucid iron]

on the pot

u can maybe look at junimatic? i rmbr that getting garden pots support

[rancid temple]

The NRE on its own wouldn't be such a problem if the mod had any error handling, instead it just slams the whole thing to a stop so all the collection tasks after that don't happen

All because they decided casting everything to Object was a good idea

[lucid iron]

wait what

[uncut viper]

to SObject or Object

[rancid temple]

SObject

[lucid iron]

did they like (StardewValley.Object)thing

instead of thing is StardewValley.Object

[rancid temple]

But there's a whole bunch of things you can't cast to SObject

[calm nebula]

Tbh I've long wanted to do my own take on that mod

[uncut viper]

oh i def know you cant just cast that willy nilly, i was just gonna be very confused why they went to generic objects lol

[rancid temple]

I'm working on the base functionality now, but I was tossing around the idea of making it more balanced by adding some kind of modular upgrade system for it

One of my favorite upgrades currently is the global inventory with no size limit

[lucid iron]

oh did u page the chest menu

or make it scroll

[rancid temple]

Nah, it's like the shipping bin when you have Chests Anywhere lol

[lucid iron]

[rancid temple]

I might eventually paginate or work on a scrollable chest, but I'm still putting off learning StarML lol

[long jungle]

There seems to be two types of swords... according to the game.

Type 3: Slashing Swords
Rusty Sword
Iron Edge
Templar's Blade
Claymore
Neptune's Glaive
Pirate's Sword

Type 1: Stabbing Swords
<The Rest of The Swords>

I noticed that Slashing Swords seem to be bulkier types with thicker sprites. They also have "0 or lower" attack speeds. The Pirate Sword is the only exception with +2 attack speed. The Tempered "Broad"sword seems to also be a Type 0 instead of Type 3 even though it is also bulky and slow.

Stabbing Swords seem to be the thinner blades with mostly 0 and above attack speed.

Do you guys notice any difference between these weapon types in game?

[calm nebula]

Scrolling chest is ez

[uncut viper]

i know this is about making a mod but you still might be better off asking #modded-stardew bc they actually play

[rancid temple]

(I would have said the two types were Galaxy/Infinity and Every other weapon /j)

[calm nebula]

P sure they are thr same

[uncut viper]

ive never paid attention to a single weapon besides my trusty dagger

[long jungle]

Hmm, maybe Seasoned Farmers then... since this isn't really too mod-related

[long jungle]

What dagger do you use?

[uncut viper]

plausibly. i try to forget any channel besides the ones in this category and modded-farmers even exists

[rancid temple]

My weapon progression is almost always, first sword, insect glaive, lava katana, galaxy sword, and that's it lmao

[lucid iron]

starderwui aint that great for chests menu

[long jungle]

FR

[lucid iron]

unless u just wanna redo whle thing

[uncut viper]

i like the iridium needle

[long jungle]

That's 99% the Vanilla Weapon Progression

[uncut viper]

but the wicked kris into infinity dagger is fine too

[lucid iron]

but i think u can do the spans of inventory wren mentioned

[long jungle]

Which sucks and so that's why I made my mod

[lucid iron]

cus the backing items is infinite, all scroll does it progress the span by ROW number of items

[calm nebula]

Yeah

That's basically how the museum overflow in atracore works

[calm nebula]

No obsidian blade?

I don't even recall the weapons

[long jungle]

Rich people apparently skip that xD

[rancid temple]

Maybe it is the one I'm thinking of, whatever you get at the bottom of the mines lol

[hard fern]

i fr just rusty sword it until i reach the bottom

[rancid temple]

It's literally, all free weapons until have to pay with Prismatic Shard

[hard fern]

i dont bother changing weapons unless i get a drop

[long jungle]

I used to like it on paper... but I got a bit disappointed in actual

[uncut viper]

my top priority in weapon choice is aesthetics since my partner is the one that actually does the mines and combat most of the time anyway

[rancid temple]

I like the idea of more weapons but honestly early on I don't really have the money to spare on a weapon

[long jungle]

I asked in #stardew-spoilers but no luck... players there aren't too technically-minded

[uncut viper]

so. yknow. take my preferences with a grain of salt

[rancid temple]

If I wanted to make a weapon mod, it would need to revolve around other ways of getting them

[calm nebula]

My last playthrough was like

[lucid iron]

I think weapons r fine but they should all shoot sword beams

[uncut viper]

i still think someone should just mod the combat into turn based gameplay

[lucid iron]

To make up for my awful aim

[calm nebula]

Neptune. Obsidian. Galaxy sword. Infinite hammer

Oh no I also had a random dark sword I used for a while

[lucid iron]

Wouldn't even take effort, since weapons have a projectile field

[long jungle]

Try my mod 😄

[lucid iron]

Idk what the name of ur mod is

[rancid temple]

This could be fun, but would need a lot of work to get there lol

[uncut viper]

the best way to get there is to start

[long jungle]

So will it be like Final Fantasy Classics?

[lucid iron]

Maybe it could be like ADOM where u fight by walking into enemies

[rancid temple]

Either FF or maybe Mario RPG style

[lucid iron]

And u & enemy both get to roll a hundred different dice in the background to get final damage

[rancid temple]

Something about timing based attacks that increase damage or efficiency is kind of fun

[uncut viper]

like a sword with active reload

[lucid iron]

I have s&s this save so I am tearing through da mines

[long jungle]

How does "sorcery" work?

Sounds interesting

[lucid iron]

Idk ask me once I'm outta year 1

But u get to dual wield immediately and that's strong

[uncut viper]

completely unrelated aside: it bothers me that the networldstate value for whether the gold clock is active is called "goldenClocksTurnedOff"
so its true if clocks are off and false is clocks are on. why

[calm nebula]

Boolean be like that

[uncut viper]

but why not make it goldenClocksTurnedOn instead

or goldenClocksActive

[rancid temple]

shouldGoldenClocksDoTheirThing

[candid estuary]

is there a texture dump of .xnb to .png for 1.6?

[rancid temple]

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[uncut viper]

as another aside thank you getFarmer for becoming obsolete but also explaining how to replace it incorrectly in the obsolete notes

very cool

(its just a typo but still)

[reef kiln]

Is there a guide some place on how to code worldmap overlays so my farmer shows on the world map when in the custom area I am making?

[candid estuary]

thanks !

[long jungle]

Goodbye everyone. Thank you for the help during the past few hours. I have achieved my goal of the having the Far Away Stone giving a buff and a glow when near the wizard's tower, and the buff and glow disappearing after the event.

Thanks a lot!

Ciao

[rancid temple]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:World_map

[candid estuary]

also any idea how I should go about fixing my town exterior tilesheets for 1.6?

[rancid temple]

I haven't done anything with world maps, so not actually sure how to go about doing anything there

[candid estuary]

its a mix of mods i put together awhile back

gotcha

[rancid temple]

What's wrong with the tilesheet?

[reef kiln]

I found that but how do I find map pixel area numbers?

[candid estuary]

i can take screenshots, some stuff shows up fine but there will be minor inconsistencies, like the dirt under crops are a different color and there's some weird squares on sams roof

[rancid temple]

If you use Lookup Anything with the data mining options enabled I think it'll tell you which sheets a tile is from

And tile lookup

I think those are the option names, don't have it open atm

[candid estuary]

thank you!! ill definitely try that

[rancid temple]

If you look at Data/WorldMap and cross reference with LooseSprites/map, seems like those numbers are based on where things should be using the pixel coordinates of the map image

[candid estuary]

so i tried using the mod but pressing f1 on the map doesnt seem to work on enviromental tilesheets, unless im using it wrong. also it looks like the bus got moved to a new tilesheet as my retexture of it doesnt show up

[rancid temple]

There's an option for tile information

It's false by default

[ivory plume]

@calm nebula Hi! I'll be getting updates ready for Cherry's mods; do you have draft release notes for your big Stardew Aquarium PR?

[calm nebula]

Uh, not really, sorry! I think I did write some comments on the PR itself which should be accurate

[ivory plume]

Alright, I'll draft something. Thanks!

[calm nebula]

Sorry!

[ivory plume]

Well, I don't have retroactive release notes for older versions yet. So I guess I'll do that at the same time after merging the PR.

[lucid iron]

anyone know where this ? on cursors is used

[uncut viper]

isnt that just the one rendered over empty speech bubbles

to indicate a Thing

[lucid iron]

im having trouble figuring out what the source rect is (when used by game)

[tiny zealot]

is that what floats over quest drop boxes?

[lucid iron]

no that one's yellow

[rancid temple]

When you make a new character it floats over the calendar to attract your attention

[lucid iron]

that sure is specific

[teal bridge]

Aren't all the Cursors sprites hyper-specific?

[mighty falcon]

Hello! I am very new to stardew valley, and the modding scene. What are some base-line mods reffering to currency, artisan time? Or ore-selling npcs?

[uncut viper]

im sure its used in more places but i couldnt get you a specific example

[rancid temple]

This channel is for creating mods, you probably want #modded-stardew

[lucid iron]

ah ok its 175, 425, 12, 12

[rancid temple]

The calendar is the only place I can think of off the top of my head

[lucid iron]

i was thinking its 16x16

[uncut viper]

raccoon stump, the bridge before repair on the beach, and adventure guild monster board

thats the other places its used

the bridge repair is the one that was on the tip of my tongue

[lucid iron]

previously i was using the (?) at cursors 240, 192, 16, 16

in hopes that ui recolors would recolor that one

they didnt recolor that one prob cus its even more hyper specific

[uncut viper]

i cant even find more than one usage of that sourcerect in the code

and its used in the character customization screen

[lucid iron]

i like that its 16x16 and in a circle

[rancid temple]

I wish everything in cursors had a box that marked just outside of its used area

[uncut viper]

question what are some things that can happen on the farm that can be affected by the seasons changing
i.e. crop growth/death, tree fruits, and bee houses
what else is there

[teal bridge]

Animals don't go outside. (And can get cold inside)

[uncut viper]

oh good point i forgot animals

[reef kiln]

OK, I downloaded someone else mod to see how they did it. they have
"PixelArea": {
"X": 64,
"Y": 22,
"Width": 26,
"Height": 33

How do I find those number to put my place on the map

[teal bridge]

Grass and weeds don't spread in winter, not sure if that counts as crops. And grass gets a big regen on the day of season change. And random junk spawns on season changes.

[brittle pasture]

hyperspecific example: all moss dies in the winter

[teal bridge]

Types of forage and artifacts can change... available fish can change if the farm allows fishing...

[uncut viper]

i am taking notes

[lucid iron]

fiddlehead fern and mushroom trees get stumpy

[uncut viper]

the random junk and weeds are taken care of bc the gold clock stops those already

[brittle pasture]

isnt that just a graphics change

[lucid iron]

i think content packs can apply that to their trees

well they r stumpy selph

[teal bridge]

Speaking of trees, regular trees don't grow in winter unless fertilized. Similar to crop growth but definitely handled in a different place.

[brittle pasture]

ah huh

til

[uncut viper]

i think trees just check IsInSeason

as an aalternative

[brittle pasture]

yeah pine trees still grow in winter

[lucid iron]

button what if u just

[uncut viper]

tbh i never noticed they still did

[lucid iron]

SeasonOverride go brr

[uncut viper]

bc i wanna make each thing configurable

[lucid iron]

r u gonna do something about content patcher {{season}} then

[uncut viper]

no

[teal bridge]

What is the context here, some kind of Season Configuration Framework?

[uncut viper]

im not sure why i would

i want the Gold Clock to stop more things from happening

bc atra said they didnt want their jack o lanterns to rot and it was eating away at me ever since and i finally caved and opened Rider

[lucid iron]

za warudo

[uncut viper]

but that didnt feel like enough to constitute a whole mod

[lucid iron]

so it's focused on behaviors and not appearances

[uncut viper]

so now i also want crops to not die and trees to continue to bear fruit and bee houses to keep making honey

well. i would like to see if i can just let the player choose what seasonal tilesheet to load too

so thats more appearances

but thats an extra thing for later

[teal bridge]

Bring back the ability to prolong thunderstorms, haha.

[uncut viper]

im not familiar with this

[lucid iron]

well i guess u can check what reads GetLocationContext()?.SeasonOverride

[teal bridge]

Used to be if you used a rain totem during thunderstorm, you'd get a thunderstorm the next day, but that was "fixed" in 1.6.9.

I don't know, it feels kind of like a "gold clock do more things" feature.

[uncut viper]

that sets a specific season, though

[teal bridge]

(Not that you have any reason to care about that by the time you get the gold clock, but... eh)

[lucid iron]

yea i mean

reading that would let u know what is gonna respect season in the location

for the most part anyways some r rogue

[uncut viper]

but i wanna know what doesnt respect it

[lucid iron]

like fruit trees in greenhouse

[teal bridge]

Oh, another useful thing would be to have it preventing un-hoeing and un-fertilizing.

[uncut viper]

oh good shout

"this will be a quick and easy mod," i stupidly thought

[brittle pasture]

hmm so just a global greenhouse effect

[uncut viper]

just on the farms!

[lucid iron]

creep is eternal

[uncut viper]

since the original gold clock only works on the farms

[slender badger]

Random question, but what would happen if I synced two CP Randoms using the same key but one had more options in the rotation than the other

[uncut viper]

well unless you're a fence

[brittle pasture]

can't believe my beloved moss brethen outside of the farm still dies smh my head

[uncut viper]

just make a "Gold Clock Works Everywhere" mod smfh

[lucid iron]

oh yea there was that person who wanted to stop autumn mossy trees

[calm nebula]

Also add upgrades to the clock 😛

[uncut viper]

i hate that i like that idea

[brittle pasture]

heresy

[uncut viper]

(also re: the random question though i have no idea but am also interested in the answer)

[calm nebula]

Uh. What do you expect to happen

[teal bridge]

Gold clock is 10 mil, so upgraded gold clock is... 100 mil? Does anyone play that long?

[lucid iron]

the last upgrade shall cost intmax number of money

[uncut viper]

i wonder if it'd be fine to just lower the price of the clock, as long as i made perfection dependant on Max Clock

[calm nebula]

(Random question or random question)

[slender badger]

I don't know! I'm curious if it'd just completely ignore the sync or if it'd sync the first matching options but then pick a random thing if it rolls the unmatching one

[teal bridge]

Since it's gold, maybe for the upgrades you need 36 stacks of 999 gold bars.

[uncut viper]

im not much of a balancer

[lucid iron]

maybe u can just make "downgrades" of the gold clock

so that its not the base building

and u buy it up slowly

[teal bridge]

36,000 gold bars.

[uncut viper]

but i already made a lovely GSQ that detects the gold clock

[calm nebula]

My guess is "nothing particularly useful" tbh

But basically

[lucid iron]

it can be more lovely

[ivory plume]

The key is used to sync the underlying random number, not the choice itself. So it'll technically work fine, but the choices won't necessarily sync since the possible options aren't in sync.

[uncut viper]

also i dont wanna deal with multiple clocks being turned on or off independently

[lucid iron]

maybe its like

[slender badger]

Makes sense! 😆 Thanks, Pathos

[lucid iron]

big craftables u gotta put around da clock

[uncut viper]

multiblock machines...

[calm nebula]

If the first is (a,b), and the second is (a,b,c), you get a 1/3 chance of a and a, 1/6 chance of a/b, 1/6 of b/b, and 1./3 b/c

So nothing useful

[lucid iron]

not machines tho just uh pylons

[uncut viper]

multiblock machines is what that kind of thing is typically called in minecraft mods

that concept

[slender badger]

Reason for asking is that I'm looking at stuff with DSV's Spirits Eve costumes, and some characters have more costumes than others. So I was curious how it'd go if I synced 1,2 with 1,2,3

[lucid iron]

oh i see my brain's still on selph furniture machines

[uncut viper]

i think just adding upgrades would be easier

[slender badger]

I'll just have to duplicate outfits for characters that need to match up so they have the same number then

[calm nebula]

W what's a Minecraft

[uncut viper]

i feel like people would expect different sprites to go with the upgrades though and i cant do art*
*not in a good timescale

[calm nebula]

Yeah, or do (a,b,b)

For one, instead of (a,b,c)

It syncs the position of the choice

[lucid iron]

well if u do some shenanigans to load gold clock to different targets then ppl can edit that

[uncut viper]

i dont know if publishing a mod with shitty art and saying "its fine it sucks just edit it yourself" is a good first impression

[slender badger]

Ah, true! It's currently handled by dynamic token though so that I can use one Random for multiple characters and reference it elsewhere when needed (for overlays and such), but I'll keep it in mind for later whenever I get around to the big costume revamp

[calm nebula]

Ah, the classic programmer trick or "letting someone else deal with the art"

[lucid iron]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/mediawiki/images/a/a2/Gold_Clock_Off.png

maybe u change those 3 purple gems

[brittle pasture]

tint the entire thing iridium with hue shift, ez

[calm nebula]

Maybe you add a paint mask to the final level

[uncut viper]

somehow i feel like my scope creep for this mod took an exponential turn as opposed to my usual linear and im not sure how i feel about it

[lucid iron]

well

[calm nebula]

I will literally give you the png for that

[slender badger]

Yeah, that's what I did for Nach's MPS sprites, just recoloured small elements to match the new upgrade level

[lucid iron]

thats why i feel pylons was better idea

u only need to do 16x32 pixels for that

[uncut viper]

itd be so annoying if you ever wanted to move the clock tho

[teal bridge]

Nah, not exponential. Maybe polynomial.

[lucid iron]

u can make it more relaxed

jus pylons anywhere on the farm

[calm nebula]

I can use polynomials to approach an exponential

[uncut viper]

i like the paint mask idea

[lucid iron]

urple

[calm nebula]

https://github.com/atravita-mods/StardewMods/blob/alpha/ContentMods/[CP] MorePaintMasks/assets/Gold Clock_PaintMask.png

[uncut viper]

delicious MIT assets

[brittle pasture]

inb4 bug reports from users installing building retex

[uncut viper]

installing what now

[brittle pasture]

ture

s

[uncut viper]

its ok take ur time

[lucid iron]

selph possessed by the sneezing cat

[uncut viper]

(fsr i thought it was the name of a mod)

[calm nebula]

There's a joke there but I probably can't tell it in this server

[lucid iron]

i thought ur mitt patterns are CC not MIT

[uncut viper]

hmm tho adding upgrades to a building makes it like, a completely different building right

[teal bridge]

I didn't think you knew any jokes like that.

[uncut viper]

like its no longer gonna be "Gold Clock"

[teal bridge]

Iridium Clock

[hard fern]

🤔 gold alloy clock

[teal bridge]

And later on, the fabled Radioactive Clock (you know you want one)

[uncut viper]

thatll be annoying to patch all the places that c hecks for Gold Clock

not impossible by any means
just annoying

im easily annoyed by work

[calm nebula]

Instead of doing anything useful today I'm going to bed lol

[uncut viper]

huh... apparently a gold clock will only ever actually visually look right if the Wizard builds it, even if you mod it to be built from someone else

since it has to be "magical"

[hard fern]

...huh

[teal bridge]

I think I finally cracked the code. XNA's graphics API was designed by drunk, sleep-deprived, disgruntled programmers playing a practical joke on the users.

[uncut viper]

Dangerous

[teal bridge]

That's just the test view I use, since everything with scissor rectangles is even more broken.

[hard fern]

What....

😭

The ui scares me

[teal bridge]

Transform propagation is scary, especially with all the opaque insanity going on in MonoGame.

[candid estuary]

so i dumped vanilla textures and used look up anywhere, the placement of the map tiles haven't changed since the new update so i have no idea why the grass and bus edits refuse to show the correct modified texture. any chance someone could test it in their game and see if it appears normally? 🙏

[uncut viper]

if it doesnt work on your game its not likely to work on someone elses. if i had to guess theyre using one of the new tilesheets added in 1.6 that your edits dont account for

[scenic warren]

Hello all, I am new to modding and I had a question regarding git. Is it necessary to add a gitignore to my new repo for a CP mod?

[uncut viper]

you can do whatever you want with git

[scenic warren]

Lovely! Thank you so much for responding. I'm very grateful to now have access to the modding community. I look forward to talking with you all from here on! 🙂 Cheers!

[brittle pasture]

one specific situation where .gitignore is useful is if your work folder is also the installed mod folder, and you want to exclude the autogenerated config.json file

[scenic warren]

Thank you kindly, Selph! 🙂

[candid estuary]

that's a huge bummer to hear. i spent a lot of time putting together/editing/drawing stuff on these tilesheets 😭 seems like im just SOL

thanks anyways

[uncut viper]

i mean you can edit the new tilesheets if you can figure out which ones they are

[hard fern]

Probably just springoutdoors 2

?

[candid estuary]

look up mod said grass tiles came from spring_outdoorsTileSheet but ill try editing that and see if it fixes anything

[uncut viper]

did you use it on the actual miscoloured tile?

and not just any random grass tile

[latent mauve]

island_tilesheet_1 (and it's seasonal variants) also has grass that sometimes gets used on some maps, I think

[hard fern]

Oh right

It's used on the beach farm usually

[latent mauve]

As far as the bus, have you also changed it on Cursors?

[tiny zealot]

hey, i know you don't like what you found, but this is just rude

[hollow hinge]

not sure what seems to be the issue with this? https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/5d565926b1e84c67b5a0e1c2dc2575e4

[rancid temple]

You didn't include the first { so it mad

[hollow hinge]

omg

[lucid iron]

i hope you are using vsc or np++

[uncut viper]

it also helps if in the future you give the error along with the json

[hollow hinge]

will do!

[hollow hinge]

tysm i cant believe i missed that

[rancid temple]

I definitely suggest a text editor that'll check for stuff like that

Saves a lot of headache

[hollow hinge]

oh there is one?

[rancid temple]

!vsc

[ocean sail]

When creating content mods, it's useful to have a program that will check the validity of your json for you. We tend to recommend either VSCode https://code.visualstudio.com/download or notepad++ https://notepad-plus-plus.org/downloads/

To use this command, type !vsc.

[rancid temple]

Either of those will do

[hollow hinge]

oh wait i have one of those!

[rancid temple]

!software

[ocean sail]

Here's a list of software for pixel art and JSON text editors we recommend: https://gist.github.com/ishanjalan/c8efb21afa21f74a052293176db107f7

For making SMAPI (C#) mods, see the Requirements section here for which IDE to install https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#Get_started.

To use this command, type !software.

[hollow hinge]

tysm ill def start using those

[rancid temple]

There's also a big ol' list of software suggested for mod creation

[old edge]

Hey guys just a reminder not to respond to any curseforge reps.

Also don't upload to CForge. Your mods will end up on some hacker website called cursefire a knockoff curseforge site that uses the Curseforge launcher.

[quiet nebula]

Or you could let people make their own decisions rather than trying to disparage CurseForge for something out of their control.

[uncut viper]

people here dont like curseforge for a number of reasons already, daemon.

you're in the wrong channel if you want to find curseforge support

it kind of seems like you literally just joined this server to say that lol

[quiet nebula]

Because I did, after dreamy decided to join the CF server just to make a stink

[drowsy pewter]

Sigh

I would personally like there not to be some inter-server beef. Just putting it out there

[old edge]

I joined because I wanted to try curseforge as a mod author.

[uncut viper]

it definitely does not belong

[rancid musk]

I had prior experience with CF from the Minecraft community, so when they came to Stardew I knew I wanted nothing to do with them. And then they added my mods to a list of "hey you can upload these even though the author says don't upload their mods" which was fun.

[old edge]

I'm really bummed its on another site out of my control now

not sure if it has viruses

[quiet nebula]

See my issue is you're blaming CF for something out of their control, I can't speak for other concerns as I'm not familiar with those, but this one thing I have an issue with.

[old edge]

happned after uploaded to curseforge though

[cedar turtle]

Please stick to talking about mod making, not how different hosters do something.

[vapid oak]

I don't think this is a discussion for here

[hard fern]

😔 the hardest part about making an npc really is writers block huh

[blissful saddle]

yeap

it is not easy to be creative when we need to

[gaunt orbit]

Remind me in 12 hours to do npc paintings compat for home designer

[patent lance]

uhhhhhhhhhh oh yeah k i'll probably remember (#6413825) (12h | <t:1734024706>)

[faint ingot]

So I noticed if you use removeTile in an event, it affects that location for the rest of the day. Is there a way to avoid that behavior? or to undo it at the end of the event?

oh maybe I could try makeInvisible I haven't used that command before...

hrrmmmm that didn't seem to work for some reason

[latent mauve]

Is there a reason you need to remove the tile during the event but bring it back after?

If it's necessary to keep the object in the normal map, using a Temporary Map may make more sense.

[faint ingot]

I've done a temporary map before it just seemed like a lot of work for what I wanted to do.

[latent mauve]

What exactly are you trying to do?

[faint ingot]

it looks like changeMapTile will do it which I hadn't seen before. basically I want to open a door and close it but its not actually a door

OK cool that did the trick, sorry!

dang OK here's the follow-up though, I want this event to trigger the next morning if I go to sleep in a particular location (not on the farm), but I want it to trigger immediately at day start instead of on location change. Is that possible?

[wise river]

just a update because i don't think i mentioned it and wanna give yall a update, it did indeed work how ever i couldn't get tilted to work, it did work though when i simply just tossed that SVE file thingy

[rancid temple]

Farmhouse events trigger when you wake up, so have you tried just setting the event to trigger at that location?

If that doesn't work, there might be some specific Farmhouse logic that checks for events

[faint ingot]

I think it actually does work and I had accidentally taken out a line of code at some point where i was marking the event unseen which is why it wasn't triggering consistently for me. i clearly need to go to bed.

[old edge]

HEllo I'm trying to fix an issue with my C# code. My ring buff is removed on after a save/new day. How can I ensure it is not removed when it is stll equipped in the menu ui?

[brittle pasture]

are you adding the ring buff yourself or relying on a CP framework?
either way, buffs don't persist over a new day, it's up to you to add them again

[old edge]

they are added with the ring buff system in content patcher.

but then I also have some code in C# to trigger the buffs when equipped

[brittle pasture]

are you only putting the add buff code in onEquip

[old edge]

yes so far

[brittle pasture]

that function only gets called when you physically put on the ring

simplest way to keep it is a OnDayStart event, if farmer has ring then re-add buff

alternatively you can convert your buffs into a postfix/override for Ring.AddEquipmentEffects

[royal remnant]

Cant get my content to load, {
"Format": "2.0.0",
"Changes": [
{
"Action": "Load",
"Target": "Maps/MenuTiles",
"FromFile": "assets/Maps/MenuTiles.png"
}
]
}

not to sure if im missing a path refferance or what :/

[rancid temple]

Anything in the log?

[royal remnant]

Well the problem is that its not even trying to load the content thing at all the only thing i have doen is had some tracing stuff looking for certain assets but this dosnt really pertain to what im currently dealing with cause im not really to sure what to do for the content pack in general because i havent made one the tracing stuff i have going on in my code for the mod part and not the content part is as follows [00:50:27 TRACE n/a] Tracing inventory background asset...
[00:50:27 INFO n/a] Found asset at: Minigames/Intro
[00:50:27 INFO n/a] Asset dimensions: 240x357
[00:50:27 INFO n/a] Found asset at: LooseSprites/Cursors
[00:50:27 INFO n/a] Asset dimensions: 704x2256

[uncut viper]

you have a C# component and a content patcher component?

are they in the same folder?

[royal remnant]

seperate folders

or should i just make a content pack mod only

[rancid temple]

As long as they're in separate folders with their own manifests it's fine

[uncut viper]

i dont know what your end goal is, so i cant answer that. do you for sure have an assets folder inside your content patcher mod folder, with a Maps folder in there, with a MenuTiles.png?

[royal remnant]

correct thats what it is now i can send through the file structure?

[uncut viper]

does it say its at least loadingf your mod in the log?

[rancid temple]

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[royal remnant]

the mod is loaded in general but the content part is not loading

[wide flint]

How does one add a single line of custom Dialogue without CP?
I was using new Dialogue(NPC, STRING) but that's no longer working/available. The String only accepts TranslationsKey now instead of plain text.

translationKey: The translation from which to take the dialogue text, in the form assetName:fieldKey // like Strings/UI:Confirm.

[royal remnant]

contentfoldername
-manifest.json
-content.json
assets
Maps
-MenuTiles.png

[uncut viper]

theres a constructor that takes an NPC, string translationKey, and string dialogueText, and while i may be mistaken it looks like using that one will just use the dialogueText as the string. barring that, you could always just add a string somewhere and call its translation key

[uncut viper]

please run the command patch summary and then send the log

[royal remnant]

ok

[wide flint]

Do I leave the translationKey empty with "" when providing dialogueText or does it not work without?

[uncut viper]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

might as well try it

i didnt look super deeply into the code

just skimmed

[royal remnant]

https://pastebin.com/WAzKKMhN

[uncut viper]

!log no, please upload the full log here

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[wide flint]

Well, it works with an emtpy string as translationKey. Don't know how I missed that constructor... Went through Dialogue like 10 times to find a replacement. Thanks!

[royal remnant]

https://smapi.io/log/e1c50f4df3684a019a6e08cf82c07500

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.9 with SDV 1.6.14 build 24317 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 7 C# mods and 0 content packs.

[uncut viper]

it doesnt seem like your content pack is being loaded. are you sure they are in separeate folders, both with their own manifest, and both with their own unique id?

(as in, the content pack mod itself is not being loaded, not just your edits)

[uncut viper]

a mod folder cannot be inside another mods folder

they need to be entirely separate

you can put both the C# mod and the CP mod in the same parent folder next to each other, but one cannot go inside the other

[royal remnant]

so do i just make a new folder or?

[uncut viper]

you need to treat them as if they were entirely unrelated mods

so they just both go inside your mods folder as if they were unrelated mods

[royal remnant]

ok so new mod essentially

[uncut viper]

you can package a content pack mod with your C# mod using something with the modbuildconfig nuget package, but i dont know how, you'd have to look at the docs for that

but all that does is just remove the manual part of giving them their own folders

they dont actually get combined into a single mod

[royal remnant]

ok so hmm in theory i could just use a referance to the content pack to coinside with the c# with loading of the content pack stuff possibly?

[uncut viper]

i dont know what you mean

for the record, if the only thing you're doing with CP is loading that one png, you can just easily do that inside the C# mod

[royal remnant]

hmm like so i make the content pack then i use a referance to to the content pack info or whatever in my c#

and im not sure how i have tried numerous time and cant figur eit out

[uncut viper]

you wont be able to get a direct reference to the content pack in your C#

at best you can make the C# mod have a dependency with your CP mod

you can load the Maps/MenuTiles asset after your CP mod edits it though just fine

[royal remnant]

Ok so what i am doing is i am trying to stylize each upgraded backpack after the 36 pack so then afterwards they would get the stylized png inventory png in the bag upgrade after the 36 bag

[uncut viper]

your edit to Maps/MenuTiles in your CP mod as is, is going to change the appearance of Maps/MenuTiles permanently

[rancid temple]

Everywhere

[woeful lintel]

For FF's example pack, I have it in the same project folder, and I added a post build command to copy the pack to the mod folder as its own mod

[royal remnant]

correct but i was trying to make it so that say i use menutiles.png 2 loaded in eafter the next upgrade after 48 and then so on and so forth with numerous versioned like a bag check to then corespond to the png to be used for the style of that bag

[uncut viper]

do you have a way to check what the current bag upgrade is?

[royal remnant]

let me check

[uncut viper]

(but also yeah, if Maps/MenuTiles is used for anything else, which i imagine it is, your edits will show for more than jus the backpack)

[royal remnant]

i dont even think i have added that function because i am trying to even get it so that it would work before proceeding hmm

[uncut viper]

in fact Maps/MenuTiles seems like it'd affect like every menu with an inventory slot in it

[royal remnant]

well see the thing is that it is jus tthe inventory gets stylized you get what i mean so liek 48 is a style and then say 56 is stylized different but just the inventory outline etc

ye3ah thats fine

[uncut viper]

im saying its going to affect things that are not the inventory

[royal remnant]

yeah hotbar etc? like here

[uncut viper]

or things like donation boxes, chests, museum reward pickup, etc

[uncut viper]

okay those parts specifically are probably going to change like many many things

[royal remnant]

Well thats kind of the point like your inventory and boxes get stylized i mean idk then idk

[uncut viper]

if you're fine with changing the UI everywhere then its fine, its just not going to be limited to your inventory/backpack

assuming this is even the png that controls the inventory and its not some weird nine slice on cursors.png or whatever

[rancid temple]

Literally every menu lol

That's the texture that's loaded into Game1.menutextures, which is used to build every single menu in the game basically

[uncut viper]

not some menus, at least

junimo notes have their own

[rancid temple]

That's true, the weird little slabs

[uncut viper]

and prize tickets and tailouring

cursors also has some menu stuff

but yeah point is, its not just changing your inventory

[golden basin]

I need some help folks?
https://smapi.io/log/e6403fd1991240a098fac39a4412e41e

Theres a interesting map error im getting that I havent seen before. Does anyone know what it means?

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.7 with SDV 1.6.14 build 24317 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 41 C# mods and 33 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[golden basin]

isolating the error, it seems to be this part here '''Invalid tile gid: 5823'''

but what does it mean exactly?

[uncut viper]

invalid tile gids i think are caused by, usually, saving the map without the tilesheets present

[golden basin]

oooh a tiled issue

[rancid temple]

Move all the tilesheets back into the same folder as the map, make a change and save the map

[uncut viper]

(emphasis on "i think")

[golden basin]

i can do that

[uncut viper]

is mineral town your mod?

[rancid temple]

I should probably have made a note of it when it happened, I think there was another cause for GID errors, but I'll have to search for it now

[golden basin]

nope im helping the creator

[uncut viper]

ahh, gotcha gotcha

[rancid temple]

Oh, it was using a tilesheet that no longer exists

The wizard house tiles or whatever that got axed

[uncut viper]

oh yeah thatd do it

[golden basin]

oooh interesting okay

[uncut viper]

mentally making a note of that being a potential cause for that error too

that way i have plenty of time to forget it again in a few months bc its probably gonna be very niche and uncommon

[rancid temple]

I'm gonna add it to my wiki entry on the Maps page for GID errors

[royal remnant]

tried doing it with just c# but idk what is going on with the code etc but grr

[golden basin]

yep that fixed it

[uncut viper]

did you make sure to fix it by finding the tiles in a different tilesheet and not jsut copying an old wizardhousetiles or w/e into the tmx folder

i mean you can do that but you'd need to package that tilesheet .png with the mod then

[golden basin]

yeah i did

all is well

[uncut viper]

[golden basin]

thank you for helping i appreciate it a lot

[hard fern]

🤔 would i mess anything up if i renamed the loom to spinning wheel, and then made another machine called loom that then turned spun thread into cloth

I haven't touched machines much

[rancid temple]

Why not just change the recipe for Cloth in the Loom and then make a new machine called Spinning Wheel that makes Thread?

[hard fern]

It was mostly because the appearance of the loom was bothering me 😔

[rancid temple]

You can also change the texture of the Loom

[hard fern]

...... Why do i always go for the more complicated options first

So i can change the texture of the loom to something else, then add a new machine called spinning wheel that uses the original loom texture

[slender badger]

On the other hand, there's no way to get the original texture directly with just CP, so it wouldn't work with retexture mods while renaming the loom would

[hard fern]

Yeah, that was my original intention

I wanted to keep any retexutres intact

[slender badger]

Renaming the loom would potentially confuse people who have new recipes that require the loom though... Hmm.

[rancid temple]

Can't you just set the Texture to TileSheets/Craftables and SpriteIndex to 17?

[hard fern]

I guess I'd have to test it first

[hallow prism]

i would say, do you want the mod for personal use, or publishing, and are confused users a big deal

once you decided that two points, you can move forward to see which approach works best for you

[slender badger]

Oh, in Data/Machines? That might work, yeah. Hadn't considered that

[rancid temple]

Well, Data/BigCraftables

[hard fern]

Well im concerned about confusion users because it's part of a larger project i want to tackle

[rancid temple]

Machines have... something they can do with textures... moving to the next index or something?

Ah yeah, ShowNextIndexWhileWorking and ShowNextIndexWhenReady

[hard fern]

Like the auto geabber?

[rancid temple]

Loom uses WhenReady

Auto Grabber isn't actually a machine

[hard fern]

Oh.

[rancid temple]

It's one of them hardcoded nightmares

[hard fern]

Oh no

You learn something new every day, i gues...

[grave scarab]

someone added to my translation the other week, it was very nice of them and they apparently fixed some strings being changed that weren't being referenced correctly with recent patches

but they did it by giving me the changes as a whole zip of the changed mod so gonna have to look through with a diff tool

bit of extra work but hey it's a free contribution