making-mods-general

[wraith meteor]

:jsonthonk:
[subtext]you'll have to take my word that that's an actual emoji somewhere. I've committed to taking a break from discord Nitro for a bit in order to give myself a cash advance on something else.[/subtext]

[teal bridge]

Ok, I actually successfully got the test to run one frame. Now I just have to figure out how to pass the GAME_PATH into the test instead of hardcoding all the paths.

[swift vessel]

ahhhhh thank you so much!!!! glad you saw the praise!

[wraith meteor]

I reciprocate the remark about "keep circling the tapes". Not that I have any mods etc. (at least in this community) anyway, but everything I publish is implicitly under a "don't be a jerk" license like the one CoFH uses for their Minecraft mods.

[uncut viper]

if you ever do publish something though you should make it explicit and not implicit

[earnest orchid]

yes I think I wrote that somewhere on my mods' pages but I'll add it to the readme and anywhere else relevant

[wraith meteor]

True. And for at least some projects, I do. For instance, my (currently private) github repository for a WIP Minecraft mod has a LICENSE in the root folder.
I just want to state it as a general rule also, so people are at least slightly less likely to assume ARR if I forget that file sometime

[uncut viper]

well.. if you forget that file, and no one is around to remember you saying it in this one instance in this channel, they have to assume ARR

[wraith meteor]

Yeah...

I did say it's foolproof did I

Didn't*

[latent mauve]

Question: I managed to get the DrawLayers animations to work for the Obelisks that are actually Buildings, but the Farm Obelisk isn't a Building. How would I animate that?

[tender bloom]

Is that one a map patch?

[latent mauve]

It looks like it

[tender bloom]

You might need to animate the tilesheet using spacecore

[latent mauve]

That's unfortunate and makes it pointless for me to use CP Drawlayers in that case, since I might as well use Spacecore animations if I have to use Spacecore at all. xD

Was hoping to make a version that didn't require SpaceCore

(Original was a CP Animations mod)

[modest dagger]

the struggles of map making continue

[latent mauve]

I suppose the Farm Obelisk can be the only hot air balloon that stays on the ground.

[latent mauve]

change the ChairTile sittingDirection to opposite. 😉

[modest dagger]

Any idea how to remove warps from the previous map used

like I edited the adventurer's guild to make this and now when I walk to the fireplace I exit at the guild

[latent mauve]

If you're editing in Tiled, you'd need to change the Map Properties for the Warps

[modest dagger]

I've no idea how to do that

[latent mauve]

Okay, so open up Tiled

[modest dagger]

gotcha

[teal bridge]

Nexus's virus scanning seems to be a bit behind... like more than 2 days behind.

[latent mauve]

Yep, my screenshot was to show them how to get there, Shrimply. 🙂

[hard fern]

DX i heard tiled and my brain moved on autopilot

[latent mauve]

LOL

[hard fern]

well "heard"

[modest dagger]

oh my god this is how i fucking do doors and fix the lighting as well?

[hard fern]

doors as in clicking on a door to warp in somewhere?

[latent mauve]

Yep

[modest dagger]

doors are in the internal ones to open rooms

[hard fern]

if you have to click on a door, wouldn't that be in the buildings object layer? as an action

[latent mauve]

The internal doors with the animations are set in the Map Properties, yes.

You then pair it with a TileData object for Action Door on the same tile coordinate

[hard fern]

ohh the internal ones

😔 reminds me i need to do map making

[modest dagger]

this and doors now working thank u

[hard fern]

😔 i tell myself to work on my npc but making houses is fun

[modest dagger]

that it is, all my npc says still is 'hello dear'

[lucid iron]

Use regular ol tiled animations with a tmx edit map?

[outer kernel]

do any of yall blacksmiths develop on linux

if so would you be willing to share your coding workflow with me if i ever make the switch to using it as my primary OS

[deep cypress]

Hi! I cannot recall. Updates as to what?

[solid ocean]

You said you were going to look into CP-A Mods not properly working/converting

I think

[latent mauve]

Yeah, that's what I've been working on for the past half hour, it's a lot of tiles to animate xD

[lucid iron]

https://github.com/lukas-shawford/tiled-bulk-animations

[latent mauve]

Well, I've already finished doing it by hand

So, too late now

[lucid iron]

For the future

[opaque cobalt]

does there happen to be video tutorials on how to do modding on the coding side for Stardew? Almost to the point to start making the rough outlines of the actual busyworks for my Seasonal Penny mod and hoping there is a video or step by step guide. Or, is it better to find a pre-made seasonal outfit mod and reverse engineer for what I need?

[lucid iron]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Adding_Seasonal_Outfits_via_Appearances

Don't use video tutorials because they don't tend to get updated as game changes

[opaque cobalt]

okay thank you. Coming from very basic HOI4 modding, was spoiled was amazing video tutorials that still work even after many many patches

[lucid iron]

You can't copy paste out of a video tutorial either

[uncut viper]

anything posted before march of this year is definitely way too out of date to be helpful. anything after march but before november is like, slightly possibly (but not likely, but maybe) out of date for specific things

[lucid iron]

for sdv in particular there was big paradigm shift with 1.6

[reef palm]

anyone who might've fussed with playerControl in events, should/can it be possible to interact with tiles that have a message or letter action on them in the map or am I going to need to crack into C# territory for something like that?

[old edge]

Workflow on Linux... I use gnu manip program for sprite art. No complaints but I'm all in on Linux at this point you get used to it.

[outer kernel]

i was mainly asking for the coding side of things, hence the use of Blacksmiths lol
guess i shouldve made that a bit more clear

[old edge]

I use visual studio code from arch repo. Still new to it but works good got intellisense.

Need to install mono tools

[outer kernel]

how do you use vsc with the visual studio extensions

[old edge]

I'm still new what extensions?

[outer kernel]

i currently use visual studio, not visual studio code

[old edge]

I haven't used visual studio yet

Only vsc as a newbie

[outer kernel]

its a c# exclusive ide

[old edge]

But I've created several c# mods already

[outer kernel]

huh okay cool

good to know

[old edge]

Well everything works but still trying to figure out how to do hot reload

I think because I am on arch I think they only have visual studio code but maybe other distro like the Linux mint Debian,Ubuntu distributions will have the other visual studio perhaps?

[pulsar flower]

hello, where can I see the source code for translating Stardew valley? thankyou so much

[old edge]

translation?

You need to unpack the game

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[latent mauve]

I'm up entirely too late, but the balloon obelisk animation for the farm obelisk is working! Hooray!

[minor mountain]

Guys

[hard fern]

?

[minor mountain]

Why does my ancient doll does not sink on the lava, It keeps coming back to me(im on mobile)

[inland cedar]

really can use some time this winter break to update the good ol' market town

[earnest dock]

Hi! Need help installing smapi on an arm device (handheld console) or raspberry pi. has anyone had success?

[fossil osprey]

You'd be better asking in #stardew-spoilers

[fossil osprey]

#1272025932932055121 would probably help you better

[earnest dock]

they sent me here

[fossil osprey]

Oh, so that means it would need another smapi basically... Okay, my bad ^^

[old edge]

Can't you install Linux on a raspberry pi?

I thought you could

Always wanted a raspberry pi

[fossil osprey]

Probably not all distributions

[old edge]

Linux could do it

I think

[earnest dock]

Yes, but the problem is that there is no rpi version.
It is an arm architecture, like on android phones. smapi for Linux is made for x64 architecture. I wanted to know if it is possible to run smapi on arm at all.

[hard fern]

probably not

[earnest dock]

the most interesting thing is that smapi andoid version exists.

[hard fern]

surprising, i know

well i guess it "used to" exist

because right now it's still in development, and barely works. If it ever does work properly, that is.

[iron ridge]

you can use the compatibility branch (which ofc means no smapi), a vm/translation layer or 1.5.4

[woeful lintel]

yeah, don't do that to Furniture, that would break FF compat in some ways (I have postfixes for clicked and checForAction and I already rewrote the whole draw function)

[blissful saddle]

If one makes a secondary recipe for an item, one ends up with two copies of the same 'item' on the crafting menu, right?

[rancid temple]

Yep

Well, assuming your entry key is different than the original recipe anyways

[blissful saddle]

alas, your recipe and furniture tutorials are awesome. helped me a lot!

[tiny zealot]

from one linux user to another, let me know if you need help setting up hot reload manually.
i do it through the terminal with dotnet watch but i had to work around some finicky bits

[edgy laurel]

hey, so I mentioned to my husband ages ago I wanted to try and make a mod just as a project and to say I have tried it, especially because I have an interest in coding and such. He has requested I make a custon NPC character for the game for him as a project to work on.

As someone who has never made a mod ever before, am I in over my head starting with making a mod that creates a custom NPC character or is it doable for a first timer? I don't want to try doing something that is simply not within my capabilities for my first go :'3

[hard fern]

Honestly it's not the best for a first timer because of how complicated it is imo

It's doable, but

[edgy laurel]

I suspected it would be a bit much xD

[hard fern]

!npc

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Aviroen has put together a template that will allow you to easily create a romanceable NPC.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

• Fireredlily has a WIP NPC Builder Please do report any errors you get with it into the NPC thread!

To use this command, type !npc.

[hard fern]

If you're interested there's a bunch of things that can belp you

[edgy laurel]

oh, thank you!

I shall go in with low expectations that I will actually make it, but it will be an interesting read nonetheless. I want to give it a go someday, even if I try other things first!

[tiny zealot]

unless you want to do something really out of the box (requiring C#), i wouldn't say making an NPC is especially hard as a first mod. it's just a lot of work: there are a lot of pieces scattered all over the place and you have to do them all in concert for it to function

the only part that's hard is finding a place for them to live (the game map is really crowded these days)

[hard fern]

you should probably just ask it here

[tiny zealot]

better to just ask without gating for "experts"

[calm nebula]

Heavily c# but like

Oh, yeah, that's actually easier probably

[hard fern]

it sounds doable ?

[fallow musk]

is there a way to make NPCs immediatly warp/follow their schedules if i change time programmatically?
In my case, making my mod requires talking to robin in her shop a lot
so to ease the development process, at day start i teleport to mountain and set time to 900 programmatically, but it looks like shes still following her usual schedule

[tiny zealot]

oh, it's okay. i didn't mean to sound rude.
when you lead off by asking "who here knows a lot about <subject>", people who might be able to help you but don't consider themselves to know a lot about it may be disinterested and ignore your question. and people who do know a lot may not want to commit to helping without knowing what the question is. if you ask directly, you are more likely to get helpful answers from passersby

[calm nebula]

debug ws Robin

[edgy laurel]

@mighty lake not a mod-maker (yet!) so can't provide expertise, but just wanted to say that I love this idea! You could also integrate existing things in the game with this easily that could negatively impact Lewis' favor/increase yours. For example, when you put the gold statue of him in the town centre for people to see or the classic purple shorts

[fallow musk]

oh ic. thanks

[lucid iron]

oust lewis in a predefined series of events: not that bad, SVE does it #morris4mayor
dynamically simulate an election where any npc can be mayor: thats a lotta C# and dialog writing

[mighty lake]

ive never made mods before so its like probably way too ambitious but i want my idea to exist so bad even if its just for my own gameplay xd

[mighty lake]

that makes sense, i appreciate it

[tardy adder]

Time to attempt again to get my book to book

[lucid iron]

@distant radish
What are the benefits of doing MPS in C#?

1. You can inspect the data of modded machines, and generate additional tiers automatically
   • Need some heuristic to decide what tier the base machine's at though, and what would a tier upgrade
2. No longer need to produce recolored version of machine sprites, can just do things during draw
   Components:
3. AssetRequested: do a late priority edit on Data/Machines and Data/BigCraftable
4. Object draw: alter draw here, using mod data to identify what to do

i dont have plans to do any of this but i do think it's a good idea and the most efficient way to do mod compat

[hoary lake]

i thought 2.0 was in c# already?

[lucid iron]

not the bulk of the data edit afaik, the C# is for edge cases

[hoary lake]

ah okay. my memory told me that 2.0 was the project of converting MPS to c# fully but maybe my memory is faulty...

[distant radish]

No, but 2.0 had a code cleanup (that’s what you might be getting mixed up)

[distant radish]

Those are good ideas, but I don’t have the knowledge to do them haha I’m also fine doing the compatibility patches, they are usually very quick to do

[lucid iron]

never too late to lern

[hoary lake]

that would be it!

[lucid iron]

and i think the asset requested part is pretty good for a starter C# mod

its really just doing what content patcher would have done for you, but programatically so u write less code

[hoary lake]

hey chu....is that pi in your user name?

[lucid iron]

no

euler

[hoary lake]

no it isn't..never mind! ignore me!

i saw long number and assumed it was pi...

[distant radish]

I understand… but I have learnt my lesson for Machine Evolution System - most rules will be done with Context Tags so I don’t have to add compatibility with any mods

[eternal mortar]

how do i change maps for festivals?

[brittle ledge]

The big thing about an NPC as your first mod is that it has a lot of parts and is a lot of work, so it's hard to see the payoff vs. a small mod. Plus it does help if you have a little familiarity with CP first. I'd start by setting yourself a realistic list of what you want in the initial release: as an example, Jorts and Jean's first release had no movie or resort stuff and only two events, so you don't have to come out of the gate swinging

[latent mauve]

Do you mean to replace a vanilla festival map or are you creating a brand new festival that needs a map?

(SVE still has my ire for making custom NPC compatibility extra work for festival appearances, LOL)

[calm nebula]

What about a machine upgrade item

[brittle ledge]

Thanks for reminding me I gotta go adjust a position

[edgy laurel]

my husband loves Jinx and was surprised to see no League themed mods, but I explained there's very little crossover in what League stuff could be applied to Stardew short of simply adding characters as NPCs (like how people have made Jujutso Kaisen characters! ) so he asked for me to make Jinx as an NPC as my project, but I think what I will do first to get used to it is simpler stuff like reskins (e.g. a bomb to look like a Jinx bomb) as I'm sure he will enjoy that and it gives me an excuse to learn!

[calm nebula]

Okay but a cat being underfoot or on a wall is okay

Cats do that

[brittle ledge]

This is Wren, she's supposed to be by the castle in Ice Fest and it apparently wandered off

[tiny zealot]

i'm still confused about how SVE handled spirit's eve in 1.6. like i figured it out (eventually!) but why did they do it Like That

[calm nebula]

Ah, okay

[brittle ledge]

If you like doing pixel art, you could look into stuff like Fashion Sense for Jinx themed outfits! Not very applicable to NPC making per se, but he'd probably like it

[calm nebula]

What castle lol

[edgy laurel]

I have never done pixel art before actually! I would like to try it though :3 so maybe this will be the thing to focus on first!

[brittle ledge]

The ice castle Robin builds in vanilla

[brittle ledge]

Feel free to check out #making-mods-art to post WIPs and get help or feedback!

[eternal mortar]

brand new festival that needs a map, one of my custom maps

[frozen elm]

Ahh yes can you please make vi and cait as well to feed my obsession /lh

[edgy laurel]

if this works out, I would love to!

[mighty lake]

Oh god i just realized something, how are festivals going to work if i get rid of lewis as mayor 😭

[edgy laurel]

....demoted to Events Coordinator? 🥹

[mighty lake]

you're so smart i kiss ur forehead platonically

[latent mauve]

Upside for Marnie though, Lewis will be less busy since he won't be the mayor in full and might finally have a chance at making his terribly kept secret relationship public

[mighty lake]

oh.. haha... haha

She deserves better x

[edgy laurel]

LMAO

[latent mauve]

LOL

[edgy laurel]

my husband got the purple shorts quest for the first time in our shared gameplay together and his innocent lil completionist in him said he would do it, and I was like "no, let me handle this one. I need to torment the man"

[latent mauve]

I figure there must have been something there if she was willing to go along with it for this long, but, it's your mod and your vision xD

[mighty lake]

just because. funny

[edgy laurel]

#KrobusForMayor

[lament shell]

would love to see other mods adding compat for this where you can just have like jorts as mayor

our mayor is this cat thank you town

[fallow musk]

what is the difference between an item and an object?

[brittle ledge]

Object is a specific type of item, 16x16 pixels + can be gifted generally iirc

things like big craftables, rings, and clothing are items but not objects

[tawny ore]

Check this out. A bunch of things are Items each with their own properties:
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Items

[fallow musk]

thanks

[tawny ore]

From that page:

Objects are the default type for items in inventories or placed in the world.

[eternal mortar]

I accidentally messed up a unsaved stardew tile sheet, without a back up like an idiot, is there any way to get a new one??

[brittle pasture]

re-unpack?

[eternal mortar]

nvm i was able to undo it

ik i asked a bit ago but how do i change maps for festivals? like new festival, my own custom map

[blissful saddle]

I am finally done with my chest sprites!

once you know how to satisfactory make one, the others fly by

I can go back to the fun: coding

[latent mauve]

Unless it's a passive festival, I think new festivals are beyond my knowledge and probably need C#?

[tender bloom]

Nope

You can do new festivals

They won’t have fancy mini games or anything

Ridgeside has some, fireworks festival is mostly CP except the mini games

[eternal mortar]

thats completly perfect! Mind letting me know how to code in a festival and how to change maps for festivals?

[brittle pasture]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Festival_data

[eternal mortar]

ok ty!

[brittle pasture]

there are also the new passive festivals (night market, trout derby, desert festival, etc) that doesn't block off the map and force you home when it ends, if that's more your thing
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Migrate_to_Stardew_Valley_1.6#Custom_passive_festivals

[eternal mortar]

how do i set up like an in game like cutscene, for example maru's rocket or like when alex's mom popped up in the sky

[brittle pasture]

the "traditional" way is to load custom maps
https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Making_Events_CG

ah wait, you want in game sprite stuff

Probably the new temporaryAnimatedSprite event command to load any sprite anim you want

[eternal mortar]

tysm i was pretty much looking for both

[hollow dust]

hello!! can u guys help me fix the content.json file😔

i keep getting this text

im kinda having trouble how to input properly

[grizzled rain]

hello, i am trying to add a warp to a modded map with the "EditMap" action, it's not giving me any errors, but it won't show up in-game. will post a shorter version of the content.json soon just give me a minute please

[brittle pasture]

!json post it here

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[brittle pasture]

at first glance you seem to be having a syntax error (missing comma/bracket/etc.)

[hollow dust]

https://smapi.io/json/none/6ecfe0920c6e48f0806f8849a45da8cb

[hollow dust]

I'm trying to figure out where to put that missing something something 😔, perhaps y'know where?

[brittle pasture]

missing comma end of line 10

[grizzled rain]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/3fb3d2a529e047fe9a519857957feaaf
ok here's mine 😔🙏

[hollow dust]

gawd dzamnnnn thank you, thank you so muchhhhh dosjjfkajdjsjdjsjsj thanks bro👽

it's fixed now

mwamwa

[brittle pasture]

you're loading your map using the internal asset key, but is editing "Maps/ritzygen.gabrielmod_GabrielHouseInside"
I don't believe those will point to the same asset

[grizzled rain]

o

so do i point it to the internal asset key then?

sorry 🙏

[latent mauve]

(I usually load my map assets to a Target so I can point things to the Target and avoid that)

Is there a particular reason you are using the internal asset key in the map path?

[frosty hull]

i dont have ras pi, but i made Harmony Patcher for Arm64 & x64 and i made SMAPI 4.1.7 Android
it run works fine

[grizzled rain]

it's easier for me

[reef palm]

Figured I'd pop back in now that it's a different time of day/more folks might be active - has anyone tried using playerControl in an event and if so - were things like message actions interactable during the playerControl portion?

[latent mauve]

I'm not sure why it's easier than loading and using "Maps/ritzygen.gabrielmod_GabrielHouseInside" for your Map Path if you are gonna have that available anyway. InternalAssetKeys are also specific in that they block things from changing them, so you might not even be able to add things directly to it from code?

I could be wrong but my understanding is that you use an InternalAssetKey when you don't want anyone else to be able to alter the asset later.

[brittle pasture]

InternalAssetKey is more performant, but yeah assets loaded by it can't be edited

[grizzled rain]

ok thanks 🫡

[brittle pasture]

(at least that's the case for images. Not sure about maps, probably the same)

[grizzled rain]

question

[latent mauve]

I've been told multiple times that CP mods should not be concerned about optimizing performance unless they've done something very silly, so not sure how relevant that is, LOL.

[grizzled rain]

if i have an NPC that spawns on the map that i'm going to load instead of using internalassetkey, will it break the NPC's spawn when i change it to load?

[tawny ore]

InternalAssetKey pretty much just means that SMAPI does the loading for you. Otherwise, it will behave almost identically.

[latent mauve]

As long as your location's internal name isn't changing, it shouldn't matter?

[tawny ore]

It's for convenience as you have to do less typing.

[grizzled rain]

ok thanks you

[grizzled rain]

so um, where am i supposed to load it to?

sorry, it's unclear to me

[latent mauve]

In this case, I believe you'd just be doing {"Action":"Load", "Target": "Maps/ritzygen.gabrielmod_GabrielHouseInside", "FromFile": "assets/GabrielHouseInside.tmx"},

So just telling SMAPI "hey, put this file from my mod folder into the game's Maps folder virtually with the name 'ritzygen.gabrielmod_GabrielHouseInside'."

[deep cypress]

Sorry, I was talking about Spacecore dungeons! 🙂

[solid ocean]

ohhh, sorry for my confusing

[lucid iron]

!converter

!converters

[ocean sail]

A lot of converter tools have been made by helpful members of the community to update outdated mods or convert existing mods to modern or alternative frameworks, and for 1.6. Here's a list:

• Convert XNB mods to Content Patcher
• Convert pants/skirt spritesheets to Fashion Sense
• Convert Custom Furniture mods to DGA/1.6 Content Patcher
• Convert visual Content Patcher mods to Alternative Textures
• Convert BFAV mods to work with 1.6 Content Patcher
• Convert TMXLoader mods to 1.6 Content Patcher
• Convert Custom Music mods to 1.6 Content Patcher
• Convert Shop Tile Framework mods to 1.6 Content Patcher
• Convert hair spritesheets and JSON Assets shirts & hats to Fashion Sense
• Convert regular Content Patcher to i18n format
• Convert JSON Assets to Content Patcher
• Convert fish data from field names to slash delimited values
• Convert markdown text to Nexus' bbcode
• Convert Custom Ore Nodes and Custom Resource Clumps mods to Item Extensions Framework
• Convert Content Patcher Animations to SpaceCore
• Convert More than Necessary to Content Patcher
• Convert SAAT to Content Patcher

To use this command, type !converters.

[lucid iron]

3rd from bottom is the cpa to spacecore anim

[tame orbit]

hey friends not sure if this is the right channel but is there there a sheet that lists the X and Y tile coordinates of the game maps? I'm trying to code npc into a specific location

[iron ridge]

you can use debug mode/tiled

[tame orbit]

where can I find that mode?

and thank you!!!

[lucid iron]

Debug mode is a mod

[lucid iron]

I also like using LookupAnything with tile lookup on

[tame orbit]

Ooo I see thank you so much!!! @iron ridge @lucid iron

[blissful saddle]

the double backslashes thing for opening textures in CP EditData thing is old? Or is a cross-platform practice? because I saw paths with normal slashes working normally and got confused

[deep cypress]

Spacecore animation?!?!?! I missed that somehow!!! That would likely have fixed my solutions yesterday!!!

[brittle pasture]

the game normalizes both so it doesn't really matter nowadays
the only place that this is relevant is in slash-delimited data structures (e.g. furnitures), where you want double backslashes when you don't want the game to think it's a new field

[blissful saddle]

I see. ok, now this makes sense

thanks a lot

[mighty lake]

does lewis have a shocked portrait?

i just unpacked his portrait file but i swear i remember seeing a shocked expression on his portrait one time, am i mandela-affecting myself or am i confusing it with a portrait mod?

[royal stump]

he has a shocked sprite in the intro cutscene, but not a portrait

(unless a mod does that somewhere)

[latent mauve]

^ I believe the portrait that's used along with that shocked sprite in the revelant event where it happens is usually the angry portrait.

[mighty lake]

gotcha, i guess i got confused remembering the sprite!

thanks for your help loves <3

moriss has the funniest expressions

[latent mauve]

Morris is very wacky

[mighty lake]

the 3rd one kills me

isnt that when he gets punched by pierre?

[latent mauve]

Also when his customers are all in Pierre's shop, I think?

[blissful saddle]

ok, I am having another unintended behaviour with CP conditions.

By CP Git example text bellow:

{
    "Action": "EditImage",
    "Target": "Buildings/houses",
    "FromFile": "assets/{{season}}_house.png",
    "When": {
        "Season": "spring, summer",
        "Year": "1"
    }
}

I understand that the patch will be applied if (Season is Spring OR Summer) AND (Year is 1)

if so, why my patch bellow was applied even if farmer doesn't have the Big Chest Recipe?

{
    "LogName": "Load Frozen Big Chest Crafting Recipe",
    "Action": "EditData",
    "Target": "Data/CraftingRecipes",
    "When": {
        "HasCraftingRecipe": "Big Chest",
        "HasCraftingRecipe": "{{ModId}}_FrozenChest",
            },
    "Entries": {
        "{{ModId}}_FrozenBigChest": "388 60 84 60 334 2/Home/{{ModId}}_FrozenBigChest/true/default/{{i18n: FrozenBigChest.name}}"
    }
}    

[mighty lake]

yeah!

what a silly fella

[royal stump]

{} can't have the same key multiple times, so I imagine only one of those is applying

[blissful saddle]

hmmm I see

[latent mauve]

oh wait, nvm, misread

[blissful saddle]

so the only way to check if farmer has both recipes so is through dynamic token?

queries and such?

I was trying to get rid of a boring dynamic token, but seems like I will need to get back to it

[royal stump]

I'm not sure about the format offhand, but a query should handle "has recipe A and B", yeah

[blissful saddle]

I will look for using queries in action. thanks a lot

[latent mauve]

"HasCraftingRecipe" being there twice doesn't do something silly like "HasMod" and only read the first one unless you do a |contains= right? (I don't actually know)

[royal stump]

I imagine it's the same situation; {} in JSON is basically a dictionary of unique keys with attached values, so it'll either throw an error on load or just read one of them if they match

(whereas [] is just a list, anything can be in it)

[uncut viper]

"When": {
   "HasCraftingRecipe |contains=Big Chest": "true",
   "HasCraftingRecipe |contains={{ModId}}_FrozenChest": "true"
}

this should work

[royal stump]

(also yeah, I forgot about contains, that'd be better than setting up a query )

[latent mauve]

Yeah, that

[tender bloom]

!mh

[ocean sail]

For help with modding issues, please ask in #1272025932932055121! When asking for assistance there, sharing an error log will help others identify your issue (see https://smapi.io/log for instructions).

To use this command, type !mh.

[turbid rapids]

OKOK thanks

[light bramble]

right I was looking through the files in the game...what exactly is the Dog5 supposed to be? Like...it looks like Dog...but purple?

Like is that for people who have custom animals?

[uncut viper]

(but also yeah its not just HasMod that wil ldo the "only load one" thing its any key as esca says. its a json thing)

its the same as if you tried to add two objects to Data/Objects both with the same entry key. cant do it

[latent mauve]

unused Iridium Pupper? LOL

[light bramble]

IKR?! I was just trying to update one of my mods to allow for people to select what dog is overwritten for my Dog substitution mod but now I'm invested lol

The cat has one too!

[latent mauve]

Definitely looks like an unused iridium variant

since it's both

[royal stump]

they aren't directly referenced in the code at least, and Data/Pets* doesn't use them, so probably that

[latent mauve]

turtle is the same exact purple coloring

[ornate trellis]

free real estate

[light bramble]

Hmmm

[blissful saddle]

thanks a lot. (and I also think it will be better)

[light bramble]

I'm just gonna stick to the ones I know are referenced and used in game....

XD

Another question. If I wanted to have a blank option for something IE you don't have to have it. Would one of the allowed values just be " "?

so like this "AllowValues": " , 1, 2, 3, 4, 5",

and then "AllowBlank" would be just true or "true"

Honestly though it might make more work for me I might just have a checkbox to enable/disable the specific animal... 😭

[lucid iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/25361

[drowsy pewter]

Hi

[calm nebula]

Hi

[tawny ore]

[brittle ledge]

(I think someone made a mod for the iridium pets!)

oh, nm, I see it got linked

[ornate trellis]

question: i know i can do forage on any grass and sand tiles etc but is there any different with custom tiles? I am either doing something wrong or idk. i just wanna have an item spawn in a room

[blissful saddle]

Hi Faux. May I DM you?

[tawny ore]

Of course

[light bramble]

Still needing assistance on this...

[light bramble]

use the config editor for FTM it'll help

you can set an actual area instead of tiles

[ornate trellis]

i dont use ftm

[lucid iron]

Man I swear the thumbnail wasn't this crunchy before

[ornate trellis]

i am just doing it via CP

[light bramble]

I would use FTM

[ornate trellis]

shouldve mentioned that, sorry

[lucid iron]

Did nexus smoosh it a second time

[ornate trellis]

i dont really wanna use ftm tbh

[latent mauve]

Do you intend to have "they didn't pick one" return the default value?

[light bramble]

yes, so I want there to be the option that they don't have to pick one so that would be left blank and the default value would be a blank too

[ornate trellis]

what i basically just want is ferret furballs to spawn in the fishmongers boat lol

[hallow prism]

"Those trains are regular like clock" does this sentence makes sense and is there a more natural phrasing in english? It's a bit hard to picture trains thatarrive on time, i know, but well, sdv is a fictional world in a lot of sense

[tardy adder]

well guess who wrote category -1002

[light bramble]

I still feel that FTM would be the easiest option. As you can set an area to have spawns from a certain time and only when the player is present.

[latent mauve]

I mean, how are you planning to use the "blank" value?

[drowsy pewter]

"Those trains run like clockwork" is the colloquial phrase

[light bramble]

If it's blank, don't load anything

[ornate trellis]

yeah but i dont really want too many dependencies for my mod

[hallow prism]

thanks 😄

[latent mauve]

In that case, I feel like you could probably just list that as "Default" or "None" in your AllowValues to make it easier for the user to understand.

Rather than just a blank dropdown option, which they may think is an error

[hallow prism]

you need for an indoor location forcespawnforageable (exact name toc heck) and a tile with spawn true

[ornate trellis]

hmm

[light bramble]

It's because I have two (planning to add more eventually) dogs for the Dog Substitution mod XD

[hallow prism]

however i got some annoying stuff in using that for VMV as i got stone and twigs to spawn in those area too, which is apparently unavoidable

[light bramble]

I mean you have one dependency right now, content patcher. unless there's more that I don't know about

[lucid iron]

Ftm or spacecore pick ur spawning framework

[ornate trellis]

Custom Companion, Content Patcher, Spacecore, Item Extension and probs the custom secret note framework in the future

[ornate trellis]

wait i can do spwaning with spacecore??

[light bramble]

And I mean, my massive farm mod has content patcher and FTM as depenancies

[ornate trellis]

hm, well i gonna try what lumi said first if i figure out how

[brittle pasture]

it's new compared to FTM but yeah

[ornate trellis]

oh wait maybe not when i read that stone and twig comment

i jsut want this lil room to spawn some furball objects

twigs n stones kinda not fitting there lol

[hallow prism]

yeah, maybe it's not always the case, but i prefered to let you know just in case

[light bramble]

Fact of the matter is, dependencies are gonna be everywhere, and some mods have 20 from what I've seen. And given that FTM has an easy way to set spawns for items, plus a config editor, I just think it's the more friendly way to do it.

[hallow prism]

you can always test and see

[light bramble]

And FTM is always kept up-to-date and its creator, Esca, is very helpful :3

[light bramble]

Yeah I guess that makes sense. Just do "None" and have that key in the conditionals just not do anything so it's skipped...Now just to make sure that the options aren't overlapped....

[lucid iron]

yea spawnables https://gist.github.com/spacechase0/35453e1e7a0593d8d4f00246c1dd3990

[light bramble]

Wasn't there a mod that would allow you to add extra animals automatically without much issue? Like I know there used to be a mod that would allow you to have extra animals and that you could just drop them in the assets folder?

[brittle pasture]

wdym extra animals
both farm animals and pets are supposed by the game/CP now

[light bramble]

Also...Is there a way to do a conditional for a patch that is basically when this = this and that doesn't = this

[hallow prism]

there was the old mod allowing to add skin

but it's outdated/deprecated

now that animals have skins in their data

[light bramble]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/7407

[lucid iron]

yea vanilla ate it

the only animal left out is

but u know flute

[brittle pasture]

does AT support horse skins I forgor

[light bramble]

Well, still want to know. Can you do a When X = 1 and Y != 1 conditional?

[lucid iron]

u need to be more specific

what are you trying to check

[light bramble]

Basically I have the config schema set to allow a user to select 1-5 (and none) but both dogs up for substitution have the same options. If someone selects 1 for the first dog, I want to make sure that they cannot selct 1 for the second dog

or that if they do, nothing will happen

[rancid temple]

Yes

[lucid iron]

why

they can just buy 2 dogs?

[light bramble]

I'm replacing the sprites

[lucid iron]

just add new breeds

thats the better way to do things in 1.6

[light bramble]

HOW?!

I DID NOT KNOW THIS

[latent mauve]

LOL

[light bramble]

HOOOOOOOOOW

[lucid iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/20557

[brittle pasture]

maybe i should have been more clear lol

[latent mauve]

SDV 1.6 is the "Add, don't replace" update

[drowsy pewter]

the iridium cat and dog mod does this too

[light bramble]

And here I was replacing textures... 😭

[lucid iron]

and u can decide if u let ppl select ur doog at game create

or lock it behind pet shop

[latent mauve]

[[Modding:Pets]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Pets

[light bramble]

😭

All my hard work on the mod I made....SOB I need to re do it all

XD

[lucid iron]

eh its just a bit o json

[latent mauve]

Nah, a lot of it is transferrable

[brittle pasture]

tbh if you did the sprite that's 90% done

[lucid iron]

art is the same

[latent mauve]

You're mostly just gonna be targeting a new pet or breed target rather than the existing one in a lot of cases.

[light bramble]

No I mean I have to make a new project or completely re-name the old one and then make sure it transfers to curse forge

[lucid iron]

circling back to the original config q though

you can't use cp conditions in the config schema

for the fancy stuff u have in mind you'd need to do a C# mod (like atelier cauldron for wildflour altelier goods)

[ornate trellis]

hm

I think I am doing something wrong

[light bramble]

Ok well I'll just add new pets XD

[blissful saddle]

ok, the condition worked, but now I need to exit the game and reload when I have the conditions met so the new recipe shows up

[ornate trellis]

oh yeah i am realizing what it might be lmao

[blissful saddle]

maybe I should just try to do it with dynamic tokens

[light bramble]

But, I do have question on if there is a better tutorial for adding an animal than what is on the wiki as I do not understand it in the slightest....

[lucid iron]

not really

if u poke rokugin enough times maybe he will make one

[rancid temple]

Couple it with seeing how Ichor did it

I'm still sick, I'm not doing anything currently

[lucid iron]

but eh i think the best way to lern is hands on

just do it™️

0 consequence if u explod game

[light bramble]

I still like tutorials as they help to guide me....else I'm in here being a bother and constantly asking questions....

[latent mauve]

I have successfully used Dynamic Tokens to create values based on my config options to change additions to a shop list via item query for a specific context tag value.
(I did this for one of my unreleased mods, I hope Airyn is proud of me! )

[ornate trellis]

yeah no i still dont get em to spawn

[lucid iron]

i also think that the format is not that hard

[rancid temple]

Forage spawns are a fairly low chance aren't they

[lucid iron]

since vanilla is your example, u r just editing in some new entries

[light bramble]

I mean I will have to make the icons...

I don't have those XD

I'm gonna ask so many questions y'all are gonna hate me....

[rancid temple]

If we hated questions, we wouldn't be helping here

[ornate trellis]

probs, but i think i found another issue so before i show my code i gonna try again after fixing it lol

[light bramble]

Like also, just looking at the github page for ichorscat... I am confuzzled... mainly because there is this "IconTexture": "Mods/{{ModId}}/Icons", but like...wouldn't it just be assets/icons.png?

[lucid iron]

nope

[light bramble]

BRAIN NOT BRAINING!!!! the structure just doesn't LINE UP FOR ME

[ornate trellis]

man, I either am really unlucky or i am still doing something wrong xD

[lucid iron]

you have to Load an asset

and then use it

[light bramble]

I know this, but like....you have to have a target

right?!

and this makes NO SENSE

[rancid temple]

Are the Load's further down?

[light bramble]

...they are...still makes no sense to me as it's all in one?

      "Action": "Load",
      "FromFile": "assets/{{TargetWithoutPath}}.png"```

Like can you do that?!

[lucid iron]

yea

[rancid temple]

You can do all your loads at once using the TargetWithoutPath token

[tardy adder]

weeee I finally got my book to book... now to get the secrete notes to note

[light bramble]

WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

[rancid temple]

It takes the Target you provide, scoops off the "path" part and leaves just the end

[latent mauve]

Just need to make sure that your png names match your Path part of the Targets, yep.

[rancid temple]

So if you provide your Target as Mods/{{ModId}}/Cat TargetWithoutPath returns Cat

[light bramble]

Error 500 N3rdGirl brain crash

[ornate trellis]

time to show my code and hope someone knows what i am doing wrong (I did check if the location is right already that was my second issue lol) https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/87c2e42c1ece4cbaae666cc876619610

[lucid iron]

there's no need to panik

this is all on the content patcher docs

[ornate trellis]

scroll all the way down for the forage stuff btw

[light bramble]

See Idk if I'm being dumb or just overwhelmed XD

I mean I also go into work in about an hour....

[ornate trellis]

i didnt wanna cut it out of my content.json in case i missed a bracket in the copy-paste

[light bramble]

so I'm getting the customer service mindset ready....

I work retail...

[ornate trellis]

colleague

[rancid temple]

Looks like SpawnableDefinitions require Trigger Actions?

[light bramble]

lol I can't do tiny text XD

[ornate trellis]

[faint ingot]

Was doing some very basic testing and my NPCs failed to load with a message like "Could not find file '[pathname][NPC name].xnb'. Anyone know why this happens? Complete log: https://smapi.io/log/e9eef9561f344a749d111e1d8d9f1cdb?format=RawView

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.8 with SDV 1.6.14 build 24317 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 8 C# mods and 5 content packs.

[ornate trellis]

trigger actions, huh....

[brittle ledge]

usually that means your loads are wrong

portrait or sprite most commonly

check for typos, file name mismatches, etc.

[edgy laurel]

sorry if this is a ridiculous question; I'm going in totally blind here! How do I know exact what size to make my pixel art for clothing items? I'm trying to make clothing items through Fashion Sense and I want to understand how to do everything before I try and throw myself into it all :'3 (literally only got as far as making the manifest json so far )

[rancid temple]

SpaceCore readme has a specific Trigger Action for Spawnables

[light bramble]

Make sure you have portraits instead of portrait

[rancid temple]

I haven't actually played with any of this spawnable stuff, so I'm not actually sure how it works, but looks like there'a an example

[brittle ledge]

check out the wiki and the example packs: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/9969 For reference, the farmer is 16 pixels wide and 32 pixels tall.

[faint ingot]

do you see somewhere I'm using portrait/? I don't find that in the log

[rancid temple]

Hm, looks like the example is just the definitions, not sure if this example actually works

[edgy laurel]

...I actually have that page open on one of my tabs and somehow completely missed the examples/templates part thank you for pointing this out!

[brittle ledge]

yeah it's something off with your portrait load sdvhead

[light bramble]

can you upload your dispos.json
https://smapi.io/json

[ornate trellis]

hmm

[light bramble]

Or the content.json

whichever has the portaits load

[brittle ledge]

upload wherever you're doing the portrait load, presumably content.json

[light bramble]

yeah what Tai said....

Puts on a dunce hat

OH! Taikall, I got my NPC to LOAD!!!

He lives

[faint ingot]

this is my npc load: https://smapi.io/log/345387bc6f3c44b68f6bf6e38aed6342

[ocean sail]

Oops, couldn't parse that file. Make sure you share a valid SMAPI log.

[faint ingot]

keep in mind that npc loading and everything else in my mod USUALLY works, but occassionally it seems the save file gets corrupted and NPCs stop loading

[brittle ledge]

Use this page to upload your json: https://smapi.io/json

[faint ingot]

could the cause be that debug commands (i do a lot of world_setday right now for festival testing) is corrupting the file?

[ornate trellis]

SIGH

[faint ingot]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/940af05afac34c46ae21f009d8d45ca4

[ornate trellis]

should really read everything carefully

[light bramble]

Missing required fields: Format.

you need "Format": "2.4.0",

[uncut viper]

if its in an include it cant have format

[brittle ledge]

if this is include... what button said

(I wouldn't do the loads in an include but)

is this the folder where your files are at?

[faint ingot]

it is loaded from an included file like so: { "Changes": [ { "Action": "EditMap", "Target": "Maps/Town", "FromFile": "assets/Locations/Sheriff_fixup.tmx", "ToArea": { "X": 70, "Y": 0, "Width": 8, "Height": 9 } }, { "LogName": "Initialize NPCs", "Action": "Include", "FromFile": "assets/NPCs/npcsetup.json" }, { "LogName": "Unlock initial mod events", "Action": "Include", "FromFile": "assets/NPCs/Events/events.json" } ] }

I do have format in my content.json

[light bramble]

Wait is this not in the content.json?!

XD I am dumb

[faint ingot]

I guess it's unnecessarily complicated but my NPCs don't load until daysplayed > 40 so that's why they're loaded later on after checking that you've seen an event

[light bramble]

Right well I need to go be retail drone...wish I could've helped more 😭

[faint ingot]

but I mean I have files that I've played for hours and hours and hours on, and they continue to work fine

[brittle ledge]

I assume you've either disabled that condition or you're past 40 days on your test file?

[faint ingot]

but I saw this error on a file I was using for festival testing and it broke the save after playing for like 5 minutes

I used debug dp on my test file

so that's why I'm asking if using debug commands can cause this

[brittle ledge]

(I would personally put that condition in your disposition instead of conditionally loading, but)

[uncut viper]

it might be possible that when CP reruns the patches your stuff gets temporarily unloaded i guess, which might cause problems

which is why yeah, id also put that condition in the dispo

[ornate trellis]

augh its still not working what is up

[brittle ledge]

also I would strongly suggest giving your NPCs a more unique internal name, e.g. yourmodname.Shannon - if there's any other NPCs sharing your internal name that get loaded, SMAPI will just refuse to load them both

[faint ingot]

I've wondered about that but this is my first mod and the tutorials / examples I worked off didn't have that approach... that may have to be a 1.1 feature because I'm actually 99% done with this

[brittle ledge]

void, you might try pinging casey? I don't know that a lot of people have used the spacecore spawning yet

[uncut viper]

if you make it a 1.1feature it will be so much work to fix it

more work than necessary i mean

[faint ingot]

oh like it could break previous installs... sigh

[uncut viper]

because there will be data associated with the old NPC name in the save

[brittle ledge]

yep

what tutorials have you been working off? Pretty sure I mention that [goes to check]

It handles it automatically.

[faint ingot]

oh I'm pretty sure it was a pre 1.5 tutorial on youtube i think the guy who wrote the zuzu city mod

plus some others

[brittle ledge]

ohh yeah, I would not reference a 1.5 tutorial just because some pretty significant stuff to NPCs changed

!npc

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Aviroen has put together a template that will allow you to easily create a romanceable NPC.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

• Fireredlily has a WIP NPC Builder Please do report any errors you get with it into the NPC thread!

To use this command, type !npc.

[faint ingot]

Well I'm not going to start over like I said i'm 99% done you guys!! I will see about the NPC name prefix though

[ornate trellis]

I am too shy and awkward to ping the cool people

[brittle ledge]

If you're using a 1.5 dispo but you're using Format 2.4.0, that could also be causing the NPC to not load

[meager dome]

i assume all the disposition information is mostly obsolete now?

[uncut viper]

(the stardewmodding wiki tutorial also does not use modid for the NPC internal name in its example though)

[brittle ledge]

yeah it didn't exist when I wrote the tutorial

[faint ingot]

I updated it for 1.6 and like I said usually everything works, but I do have a follow-up question about what you two were saying about 'putting that condition in your dispo'

[brittle ledge]

I mention it under content.json but like my examples from Jorts and Jean don't have it because they started in 1.5

[faint ingot]

let me summarize how i'm doing it now give me a min

[brittle ledge]

that's the 1.6 dispo format, yeah, but no, it wouldn't be obsolete

[ornate trellis]

maybe i am doing the trigger wrong, who knows...what I understood from it I got

"{{ModID}}_FerretFurBallspawnSPACECORE": {
                    "Id": "{{ModID}}_FerretFurBallspawnSPACECORE",
                    "Trigger": "DayEnding",
                    "Action": "spacechase0.SpaceCore_TriggerSpawnGroup VoidWitchCult.CP.TheFishmongerNPC_FerretFurballSpawn VoidWitchCult.TheFishmonger_Fishmonger_GI_Inside_LowerDeck includeRegions excludeRegions"
                },```

[meager dome]

then are age manner and socialanxiety all actually used?

[brittle ledge]

@next plaza is this the right format for spawning forageables via spacecore?

[ornate trellis]

oh wait i thing i also understood the region thing at the end wrong

[brittle ledge]

Yes, they determine which of certain default strings get used.

[meager dome]

and its not like harvest moon with rivals so i assume that loveinterest was never actually used

[meager dome]

huh, interesting

[uncut viper]

social anxiety also determines whether or not they say hi to people they pass by

[brittle ledge]

Yeah, loveinterest in particular is obsolete and you don't have to include it (it has a default null)

[uncut viper]

and how they react to you drinking mayonaisse

[ornate trellis]

I thought the setpiece stuff in the group was the area but uhh

[meager dome]

thnkxxx

[ornate trellis]

[meager dome]

what about friendsandfamily

im gonna set them but

do they also get used for default strings

or determine non dialogue interactions

[lucid iron]

They say hi

Also those gift taste reveal dialogs

[brittle ledge]

yes, they'll determine how your character refers to others in e.g., revealing gift tastes ("Did you know my dad, Pierre, hates trash? I guess everyone has their hangups.")

[faint ingot]

OK so I have my condition in content.json (https://smapi.io/json/none/146785ce8b484fd782dd8e05762f5c0f) that conditionally runs an include called prereq.json (https://smapi.io/json/none/e1e82d23876d41d4b7839cb6b37783f0), which will update the NPC home, initialize the NPCs in npcsetup.json (https://smapi.io/json/none/988de45f62fe4339968ad48a2d1d1240), and create a few events. The bulk of the NPC data though including schedules is in fixup.json (https://smapi.io/json/none/a195a2808b0e4761899ad21f39d9500f) which isn't loaded until after they've seen the event where the NPC building gets fixed up

And it USUALLY all works, but help me understand what I should change about my conditional loading to improve it, besides making my NPC names internally unique

Sorry I know that's probably an overly complex way to approach it. first-timer here that bit off maybe more than he should have

[uncut viper]

NPC character data has a field called UnlockCondition or something that determines when they can actually show up

[blissful saddle]

I am not debugging it

[brittle ledge]

You said it usually all works? What have you changed since it last worked?

[uncut viper]

when we say use the Condition in the character data thats what we mean, not conditionally loading it with CP

[faint ingot]

it STILL all works, just on occassion it seems like test files get corrupted, and I THINK it only happens when I use debug commands to change the day but I'm not positive

[uncut viper]

that way the character data always does exist, but the NPC is still only unlocked after the days_played requirement is met

[brittle ledge]

I feel like conditionally loading parts of the NPC based on different conditions is going to cause problems

[faint ingot]

OK, so Button can you point me to what is the correct way to hide the NPCs from the player until the reveal time?

[brittle ledge]

so yeah, I would load everything at once and just not spawn the characters until you're ready using the Condition field in the disposition

[uncut viper]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:NPC_data#Spawn_rules

[brittle ledge]

Jorts and Jean do this, they don't actually spawn in until after six days, so that might be a good example of what you're doing

[faint ingot]

OK I will take a look at that resource and your mod for an example. Thank you both for your patience.

[brittle ledge]

Also why are you splitting the NPC load between npcsetup and fixup - what's the difference between these two?

[faint ingot]

In retrospect there is probably not a good reason. It just doesn't "do stuff" that I don't need them to do. like I need them to be able to be present in an event. But I don't want to activate their schedule until the next day

[brittle ledge]

If you don't want them to start their schedule until after an event, you can conditionally patch that in

if they're spawned but you want them to not be wandering around until after the event, I'd use a warp room (small map not accessible by the player) and have a schedule that just dumps them there

then patch that out in favor of their normal schedule once the event is seen

[ornate trellis]

ok i think i gonna stop trying for now idk whats the issue with my stuff but i did figure out to add the numbers for the regions in my trigger

[faint ingot]

OK well thank you for the pointers. I'm grumpy that I have to do all this unexpected work but I guess it's good it will save work later.

[brittle ledge]

learning is part of the process

[ornate trellis]

which is btw just for reference

                    "Id": "{{ModID}}_FerretFurBallspawnSPACECORE",
                    "Trigger": "DayEnding",
                    "Action": "spacechase0.SpaceCore_TriggerSpawnGroup VoidWitchCult.CP.TheFishmongerNPC_FerretFurballSpawn VoidWitchCult.TheFishmonger_Fishmonger_GI_Inside_LowerDeck 6,12,3,6/9,12,4,3/11,10,4,4 0,0,0,0"
                },```
aka these spots

so i guess i really gotta wait till casey is online

[blissful saddle]

@next plaza

[uncut viper]

casey was already pinged

[ornate trellis]

i am sorry that you got pinged again casey afdsf

[final folio]

Hey, do you know if this command to give random money in a dialog is correct?

$action AddMoney {{Random:{{Range:5000, 7500}}}}

[tender bloom]

Have you tried it?

It’s usually much more reliable to test things by putting them in the game than by asking humans to read them

[final folio]

Yes, and it does not work, it shows me the keys }}}}

[uncut viper]

inside an i18n file?

[final folio]

nope, in xnb but should work

[blissful saddle]

oh, I failed to see that even looking for it before pinging myself

I am so sorry in this case, Casey

[brittle ledge]

in XNB? Do you mean in content patcher?

[uncut viper]

if you're working with the .xnb file format at all for anything other than unpacking, you are doing something wrong

unless you are modding your switch

[brittle ledge]

yeah random would not work in an xnb because it's a CP function

[rancid musk]

Yay, found someone violating Better Crafting's license and uploading it to Curseforge. Time to see if they comply with a demand to remove it or if I get to shout at Curseforge directly

[blissful saddle]

ok, even calling the "HasMod"s conditions in a dynamic token, it yet requires to reload the game to the recipe show up...

[calm nebula]

🫂

[tender bloom]

The license is no license rn? I snooped a little because I was curious

[final folio]

ohh, that explains everything, thxxx

[blissful saddle]

I think she says the upload permissions in nexus

[tender bloom]

(Curious whether i should imitate you)

[rancid musk]

Yeah, I switched to All Rights Reserved while I figure out what license I actually want to use. But licenses are annoying so I have been procrastinating.

I'm sure there's some kind of source-available license I can use.

[blissful saddle]

oh, neat

[rancid musk]

And yeah, I list my permissions in Nexus since that's where I distribute actual builds.

[tender bloom]

I switched to MPL for some of mine since I’m not an expert on licenses but it seemed maybe better than MIT

[rancid musk]

I want to have my source available too, I just don't want people uploading builds and stuff while I'm still maintaining them.

[tawny ore]

I'm pretty sure recipes are only "added" during load/sleep even if the conditions for adding them are true

[tender bloom]

That’s about how I feel

Although some of my mods I feel more protective of than others

[blissful saddle]

I got from 'I am doing only the original chest' to 'since I am here, why not doing all the chests' to 'I am doing only the normal sized chests for now' and finally 'I am doing only the original chest again'

doing four times more work to end at the same place

[tender bloom]

I might switch licenses again idk

[blissful saddle]

I tried to sleep, didn't worked

[tender bloom]

Maybe if i actually work on mods again

[blissful saddle]

had to reload the world/game

[tender bloom]

Like if I’m dead, then sure people can have them, and I like having them public so people can reference them

[tardy adder]

Hewo sorry to interrupt, I has a question:
How do I prevent the keg/preserves jar from processing a specific category_fruit item?

[blissful saddle]

I am ok having an open-source since Nexus give me option to not authorise the build be uploaded anywhere else. But I know how you all feel

[brittle ledge]

Elizabeth are you learning to knit too

[tender bloom]

lol

I already know how to knit

[tender bloom]

People can and will claim they built from source

Truthfully or not

Curseforge is kind of a bad influence that way

[blissful saddle]

seems like I am the only MathPerson actually working on mods. maybe I should leave the nick to another retired modder thinking about coming back while knitting

[tender bloom]

I prefer crochet

I’m not good at sticking to a pattern

[tawny ore]

I don't mind my stuff being completely open. The worst case scenario I can imagine is someone building directly off of my work and maybe getting a bigger audience than me.

[brittle ledge]

I was gonna say, you'd better be careful, the knitting brigade might come for you

[rancid musk]

Yeah, Curseforge basically says "oh this is MIT sure you can upload it you don't need permission"

[tender bloom]

I just get annoyed by straight reuploads

[drowsy pewter]

you can only exclude them by patching in an exclusion for your item into the machine rule

(but for the love of god please do it in the least invasive way possible)

[tawny ore]

It's like if anyone wants the headache of supporting my mods, be caseful what you wish for

[tender bloom]

I haven’t found a license that prohibits reuploads without some actual thought and changes put in

[rancid musk]

I like how the BSL has a feature to automatically relicense to something like MIT after a period of time passes. That seems like it'd be good for mods.

[tender bloom]

Which is what my actual intent is

[brittle ledge]

(let's be real, they wouldn't support them, that requires effort)

[tender bloom]

I’m also picky about where licenses come from

[calm nebula]

Just write nonsense code

Lol

[tawny ore]

I can only think of that ending in 2 ways - they support my mod better than me in which case you can have it, or they support it worse than me so people would end up coming right back to me

[calm nebula]

I think one reason why no one has tried with mine is that my repo isn't trivial to even fork ans recompile lol

[tardy adder]

Gotcha, thanky!
That would be in the trigger part right?

[tender bloom]

Absolutely true I think

I won’t touch GPL stuff, which does limit my options on licenses

[velvet narwhal]

atra you also write in such a verbose way that it gets lost on someone who does it purely as a hobby

[brittle ledge]

well in fairness, stealing a C# mod generally does require at least a little effort, and most people aren't about that

[tawny ore]

My mods have so many overcomplicated abstractions as this point that I can barely make sense of it anymore

[brittle ledge]

easier to just steal SVE and call it a day

[tender bloom]

Idk if it’s a working mod they probably just download and reuploads it

[calm nebula]

(Amonf other things, you have to disable my keysign)

[tender bloom]

Stealing a broken C# mod is the hard part

[tardy adder]

Invade the keg >:3 /j

[blissful saddle]

I really don't care. over and over issues will show up that will not be answered in curseforge, and so hopefully the users will come to nexus to reach me and it will be just kind of free propaganda

[drowsy pewter]

yeah, cornucopia does it for some stuff (because they have rules that require 2 or more of the same item, so we dont want the player to be able to make something with just 1 of them)

https://github.com/MizuJakkaru/Cornucopia/blob/main/[CP] Cornucopia Artisan Machines/machines-extendedcrops/keg.json
Scroll to the bottom of the file

Your alternative option is to make it not a fruit in the object data, and just use Spacecore to overwrite the category label so it LOOKS like a fruit

[tawny ore]

Anyway, I already have my mods automatically syncing to CF and ModDrop so there's no reason for anyone else to reupload them there at least

[tender bloom]

I’ve considered stealing atra’s but then i remember support is gross 😛

[calm nebula]

And what do you think I am

[velvet narwhal]

a knitter

[tardy adder]

Hahaha I do use cornucopia as an example to follow when I get stumped, thank 6480!

[tender bloom]

I might someday try to revive the ones I used to use for myself

I really liked the Simon says one

I’m so bad at Simon says

[blissful saddle]

maybe I should do the same just to discourage these, since I am just starting

[velvet narwhal]

i just know the day will come that tia holds my arm behind my back and says, "revive GIMA for me, or else"

[calm nebula]

(To be fair I think if someone re-upload me rn, we'll, I'm inactive(*), fair game.

(*) or maybe I'm too active, ran five miles yesterday.)

[calm nebula]

This tripped up sheku when he tried to fork me lol

Fuck yeahhhhh work code worksssssss

I get to go hommmmeeeeeee

[brittle ledge]

time to git gud at C#, shlub

[faint ingot]

so I was advised to move my conditional NPC loading to a game state query in the NPC disposition. All well and good. This will be unlocked based on 'daysplayed'. However it needs to synchronize with an event which unlocks the same day, which currently uses content patcher's days played which is not exactly the same. Do events support game state queries (I don't see that on the wiki page that I can tell)?

[blissful saddle]

I think I did something wrong on my last edit

[brittle ledge]

If you need it to wait for the event, you can make the event seen the condition itself.

The NPCs would spawn in the next day iirc

[faint ingot]

the event seen needs the NPCs though : (

[brittle ledge]

ahhh

[calm nebula]

Okay

Instead, try this

[lucid iron]

Atra I think yours is 1 tier under casey's in terms of cloning and building

[calm nebula]

Spawn the npc unconditionally

Have a day started trigger that sets the npc invisivle

Set the npc visible in the event

[lucid iron]

I dunno how pathos keeps things so clean tbh I only got to 6 mods before I went "nope I'm splitting this shit up"

[brittle ledge]

Atra if you're already spawning the NPC could you not just hide them in a warp room until the event is seen?

[faint ingot]

Is NPC visibility a character data property? I don't see it

[calm nebula]

No, but there is trigger actions for it

[uncut viper]

a trigger action action can hide an NPC by making them invisible

like Elliott with his book tour\

[calm nebula]

Hi my favorite trigger action author

[uncut viper]

(but if you know where theyre supposed to be you can stilol catch them with Lookup Anything)

[brittle ledge]

(huh, did 1.6 change how Elliott's 14 heart line works or did hardcoded trigger actions always exist?)

[uncut viper]

(i should admit i dont know how elliotts stuff works im just repeating what ive heard over the last 8 months)

(ive never gotten him anywhere close to that number of hearts)

[calm nebula]

What

Tbh I like Elliott but by that I mean I like Realistic Writer Elliott

[uncut viper]

all heart levels i get with the men are incidental

[velvet narwhal]

turn them all into women, got it

[calm nebula]

Anyways, question to the crowd

[brittle ledge]

I'm just gonna doublecheck his vanilla event to make sure nothing changed...

[calm nebula]

Which marriage candidates feel super young to you

For some reason despite the fact that Maru is super young she doesn't feel young

[velvet narwhal]

abigail, sam

[uncut viper]

all of them feel identical in age to me except elliott

who seems older

[calm nebula]

Harvey feels older

Penny feels like she could be older

[brittle ledge]

Penny still feels young to me

[calm nebula]

Leah is older

Penny has that "grew up too fast" feel

[brittle ledge]

...so who's the older sister, Emily or Haley

[blissful saddle]

Abigail without a doubt

[calm nebula]

Both older and younger

[uncut viper]

is this for a mod you're making atra

[calm nebula]

Emily is older

Uhhhh.....not yet?

[faint ingot]

It looks like I can use the game state query in the event after all so hopefully that will work if I understand this correctly

[blissful saddle]

Emily and Haley are a bit hard to define. Emily sounds older, but having a less responsible older sibling like Haley also makes the younger mature faster

[velvet narwhal]

yeah i've always seen emily as older simply due to the clint infatuation thing

[blissful saddle]

I would also not be beyond consider they are non-identical twins

Haley may also be older than she sounds, but have some kind of Peter Pan syndrome

[meager dome]

ok what of this data in specialorders is actually used by the game and what should i change if i just want a characters displayed name to be different

[blissful saddle]

and after spending 12 hours and downgrading my former 4 chests, 12 files and a handful of conditions, I have a simply frozen chest to work with spoilage

[tardy adder]

weeee no more weird fruit as wine

[brittle pasture]

are you changing Clint's name, or just the person that requests this order

[meager dome]

im changing clints name through the whole game but i just mean here

i want it to still be requested by clint but have the name say something else

[brittle pasture]

got it. the strings associated with the special orders are in Strings/SpecialOrderStrings

[meager dome]

ohhhh

ok cool

so im not gonna be changing anything in here

[brittle pasture]

nope

[silk cliff]

is there any mods that add more dialouge to emily?

[calm nebula]

Probably lol

If you're looking for ohe, #modded-stardew might know

If you're planning on making one, make one anywyas lol

[silk cliff]

ohe?

o i could never make mods

[faint ingot]

then you're in the wrong channel

[silk cliff]

o oki

[rancid temple]

ohe is probably one

[gray linden]

just quickly so i dont need to make a post, does anyone know how to add a hud mesage without the whitespace / border for the image. just got started and this Game1.addHUDMessage(new HUDMessage("rain boosted crop growth!")); adds the hud msg but with the area for an image

[calm nebula]

!anyonecancook

[ocean sail]

To use this command, type !anyonecancook.

[uncut viper]

Game1.showGlobalMessage

[gray linden]

thanks!, is there an easy way to change the size or do i just have to accept it

[uncut viper]

you can skip the first four stages of grief here

[rancid temple]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/fd551f653dd5408bb9c1fc61be0fe2d9
Working super basic example of making a Prismatic Shard spawn in the General Store using SpaceCore

[ornate trellis]

🤔

maybe its time for me to make a spacecore json to keep all my spacecore stuff in...

[brave fable]

hi @rancid musk , where can i find a list of current materialcontainers/inventories from ICheckCanCraftEvent? my usual method takes params of CraftingRecipe, List<IList<Item>> in the base game inventory item list format

[ornate trellis]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/e86e9b80c32842beb732202f1f51cc4e

idk what not present in the dictionary means

[brave fable]

if i have to rewrite the ingredients handler i'm going to leave love of cooking at 2.0.1 hahah

[calm nebula]

🫂

[blissful saddle]

it is your mod? if yes, do you use a key named VoidWitchCult.CP.TheFishmongerNPC_FerretFurball anywhere?

[ornate trellis]

yeah its the key for the object

i thought i needed to add it there

[blissful saddle]

if it is a new object, check if it is being loaded correctly

[rancid temple]

Oh

You have capitalization issues

[blissful saddle]

damn capitals

[ornate trellis]

it does exist ingame if thats what you mean

[ornate trellis]

please dont tell me thats the issue

[ornate trellis]

i am now just confused

o

[rancid musk]

I didn't include the inventories because I didn't think it was necessary. Better Crafting is already checking the recipe's ingredients are all available.

What exactly do you need them for?

[blissful saddle]

yeap, seems clearly a capitalization issue to me

I had {} issues when working on my mod earlier that almost made me lose my mind and scream for help here, because my textures were not opening

I was loading it to Mods/{ModId}/texturename and trying to open them from Mods/{{ModId}}/texturename

[ornate trellis]

it lives

thanks everyone

[calm nebula]

Floof

[ornate trellis]

i either wanna make thread out of it or cloth..or maybe just directly use to it craft something idk 🤔 we shall see. i am happy enough for now that it spawns at least lol

[brave fable]

oh, if bc already checks there then that's probably fine, i was just looking to use the existing behaviours if possible

[blissful saddle]

question: with EditData it is possible to add a context tag to an item without deleting or having to manually copy the original ones?

[rancid temple]

I do think there's some problems with how this spawnable thing works though

Seems like if it chooses a spot that's not available it throws an error

Doesn't stop it from spawning in other spots

[ornate trellis]

O:

[rancid temple]

But the red I'm sure will be great when any user sees it

[distant radish]

I think Cornucopia does this

Look at Cornucopia - Artisan Machines and then look for their objectcontexttags.json file

[ornate trellis]

just like all the comments i get for an AT issue with the menu not showing the textures of custom buildings and i get asked why my mod isnt working

[brittle pasture]

CP 2.4.0 and onward supports editing lists of strings like models now'\

[rancid temple]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editdata.md#target-field

The example includes adding, removing, and replacing context tags

[rancid musk]

Yeah. All you need there are your extra behaviors. So, the frying pan upgrade level? I didn't notice anything else but I might be blind

[brave fable]

no, that's all for now thanks

[dreamy cedar]

I'm adding a mechanic to Junimatic where Junimos will take raisins and get a speed boost. The way it'll look will be a Junimo grabs the raisin from a chest and hauls it to the Junimo hut (which is a big-craftable, 1x2 thing)... Easy enough for me. But I'd also like all the Junimo Huts to have an animation when that happens. Perhaps a shake and a little burst of sparkles. Any idea where I could find an animation like that in the game already?

[lucid iron]

blueberry my liege the cat in sailor styles is leaving behind a impassable tile

[lucid iron]

the anim when junimos repair bus/bridge/etc?

[dreamy cedar]

Those are all cut-scene animations, aren't they? I'm hoping for something that'll happen during gameplay. That is, the player is just walking around and the huts sparkle for a second or two.

[tender bloom]

Ugh I think I actually have to deal with VS being discontinued

I sort of hate microsoft

[blissful saddle]

I will save it for later. but I am glad to know

[lucid iron]

yea they are but i think the sprites is just this one but side to side

as for sparkle effects u can pick smth from TileSheets/animations

[calm nebula]

Rider is free now!!!!!

[brave fable]

think i'm good to update the patch to this?

{
    "LogName": "Sailor Styles: Shops - Tile",
    "Action": "EditMap",
    "Target": "Maps/Forest",
    "MapTiles": [
        {
            "Position": {
                "X": 33,
                "Y": 96
            },
            "Layer": "Buildings",
            "SetTilesheet": "outdoors",
            "SetIndex": 102,
            "SetProperties": {
                "Action": "OpenShop blueberry.SailorStyles.Shop none 0 2020 33 96 1 1",
                "Passable": "T"
            }
        }
    ]
}

[tender bloom]

Yeah I'm downloading Rider rn

The wiki doesn't have any tutorials on Rider though

So that's going to be fun

[uncut viper]

its basically 99% the same

[tender bloom]

I don't feel like figuring things out myself rn but I guess I have no choice

Many grumbles

[lucid iron]

i think so? never tried interacting with a passable tile with action on buildings

the other approach would be to use action in the cat's dialog

since the cat is an anti social npc right

[solid ocean]

im having troubles coverting CP-A mods. when i convert them they dont animate in game

[brave fable]

yeah the cat is antisocial and has no dialogue, but it does use a unique animation at every schedule point

[tender bloom]

What are you converting them to?

Also what language is your game in

[brave fable]

so in theory i could open a shop action. if one exists

[solid ocean]

to spacecore i think and english

[lucid iron]

nop its only avail as tile action or debug

[blissful saddle]

VS is being discontinued?

[brave fable]

tile action it is 😌

[blissful saddle]

panic

[lucid iron]

i will hope that passable is just work

[blissful saddle]

seems like time to learn another IDE

[lucid iron]

vs on mac is ending yea

[blissful saddle]

oh ok. I am safe with my shitty windows so

[lucid iron]

just use notepad

who needs things like "syntax highlighting" and "intellisence"

[blissful saddle]

just use punched cards

[brave fable]

is it possible to add other folder trees to the solution view? since removing the csproj files and using ContentPacks in the c# project it's a nuisane having to open via explorer

folder view in solution explorer sucks

[tender bloom]

I don't think I even own a hole punch

[tender bloom]

You have to get the area you're patching precisely right in SpaceCore animations

Show an example of what you're doing and I can explain what I mean

[calm nebula]

Neither do i

[tardy adder]

I am scared to know what those are...
https://smapi.io/json/none/68f54fff25fa48b280911fd2a789cabe
The items and recipes are all there >-> but why is those there???

Send help ><

[lucid iron]

Weeds

[tardy adder]

But from where?

[rancid temple]

Isn't that like the default Texture and SpriteIndex?

[tardy adder]

-> maybe the recipe isn't loading?

since the item is

[rancid musk]

You can set DisplayUnknownRecipes to true on that crafting station for debugging purposes

[tardy adder]

hmm probably recipe no like ze pumpkin seeds

nvm I has discovered an extra slash in ze recipe after actually seeing

[tender bloom]

friendship ended with VS, Rider is my new best friend

[tardy adder]

on a side note I was today years old when I realized I can add a number next to the yield

[tender bloom]

ok so how do I edit the mod compat whatever-it-is-now

now that I've unbroke my mod

[uncut viper]

what do you mean

[lucid iron]

You need to open a pull request

[uncut viper]

o

[lucid iron]

To the compat github

[tender bloom]

Terible

I can do this

[lucid iron]

Elizabeth new mod

[tender bloom]

nope

just fixing a broken one

Maybe a new mod...in like a couple years 😛

I still have 2 more broken mods

and 1 I want to add a feature to

I have been feeling the art itch a little bit

like one tiny iota

I also relicensed a bunch of my mods, again

Probably janky but idk, at some point I just pick something that seems ok and go with it

I did discover one of those mod stealing websites stole one of my mods

I think they didn't update it for 1.6 tho lol

[brittle ledge]

if you do cloth or yarn or something lmk, Wren could use some I'll add it to her gift tastes

(could also include Lola and Lacey in that)

[calm nebula]

Yarn? Yarn?

[brittle ledge]

We'll also add it to atra's gift tastes.

[calm nebula]

[lucid iron]

Cotton candy flavored

[ornate trellis]

hmm, maybe ill add yarn. tho not sure what all could be done with it 🤔

[modest dagger]

hats

[ornate trellis]

i do have one cloth made of flax that i use for some bigcraftable deco :B

nothing too fancy but

i fear i gonna scope creep myself into making a custom crafting station or w/e and thusly will never finish my update cuz i always gonna do more lmao

[calm nebula]

(Brioche hat?)

[brittle pasture]

huh I never bothered to check 1.6.9's furniture crafting fix. Looks like it works, so Craft Anything Framework is mostly obsolete

looks kinda weird though lol

[tiny zealot]

take your time and make your mod what you want it to be, but i am eagerly awaiting your hats so i can write reactions for Lacey to have about them

[brittle pasture]

that's more points toward the "furniture as machines" side, vs "revive bigger craftables"

because it turns out the collision and placement logic is kinda a pita to reimpl lol

[teal bridge]

1 step closer to the table that makes more tables

[brittle pasture]

(better crafting does show the icon correctly, fun fact)

[rancid musk]

Naturally.

[brittle pasture]

(I'll just add a hard requirement for BC ez)

[rancid musk]

I appreciate using 10 wood to transform an oak table into a walnut table.

[brittle pasture]

wood plating

[brave fable]

it's just a veneer 😌

[rancid musk]

You just soak it in wood.

[calm nebula]

I looked into how hard it would be for vanilla to switch to using drawinmenu

And meh

It's not a simple two line change so I'm not going to bring it up

[wise river]

okay- i has question, yall want the short story or the full story, cause either way it involves- uh- what- are they-

[hard fern]

Just ask it

[wise river]

Tbin?

[hard fern]

? Do you want to make maps

[wise river]

how does one- see the stuff in it--

[hard fern]

!tiled

[ocean sail]

If you want to make mods that add or edit maps:

1. Use Tiled to edit .tmx or .tbin files.

2. Refer to the Maps wiki page for details on how maps work in Stardew Valley.

3. Content Patcher allows you to create custom locations through editing Data/Locations

4. Vanilla Maps can be edited via Content Patcher as well: EditMap

To use this command, type !tiled.

[wise river]

i'm trying to edit something but, completely clueless

[lucid iron]

enable the tbin extension in tiled

dunno why you are editing tbin though, just use tmx

[hard fern]

Maybe an older mod that uses tbin? Idk

[wise river]

i give short story, a revamp of alex's home is clashing with SVE, a way to fix it was to edit the file

or- at least that's what a person suggested--

[hard fern]

Can you give more details,

What about it was conflicting

[wise river]

the resident of alex and his grandparents is the mod that had the instructions, i'm trying to see if a mod that changes ||the casino|| works still, or if it's clashing with SVE

which, i will be honest this is like. super new. so i have no clue what tmx is, or what tilited was until now

[drowsy pewter]

Okay so what exactly do you need help with. I think people want to know what the actual question is

[hard fern]

Yeah

[drowsy pewter]

If you want time to go through the map editing guide thats fine

[acoustic summit]

I still use tbin cause its what Im used to, and change is... change lol. What are the advantages of tmx though?

[wise river]

pleaseeee be patient i have no clue what im doin-

[lucid iron]

u can rotate tiles

and its plain text

[wise river]

i wanna try and use the mod "less ugly casino" but- apparently SVE edits it or does something with it i think- so i'm hunting for its file, and im trying to check if its the right file but its in Tbin format (?) and im not sure how to really- see or use what's within it

[acoustic summit]

Whats the advantage in plain text?

Unless you want to analyse the file in a seperate tool

[drowsy pewter]

Did you read the message that Forsy pulled up about tiled?

[uncut viper]

if your tilesheets get fucked up you can fix it manually instead of having to open it in tiled and potentially need to redo the whole map

(potentially)

[acoustic summit]

Ah, cool!

[tiny zealot]

you can fix mistakes with a text editor and you can easily discern the file structure

[acoustic summit]

tbin can be opened in tiled, a program for editing and opening maps. To really see it though youll need the associated tileSheets as well. When you open the .tbin file in tiled though it will be tell you what tileSheets it wants.

[lucid iron]

sometimes i mess up tilesheet climbing so i can just open tmx and fix it

cus it's just xml file

[wise river]

mhm, but- i can't seem to understand how to use it,

[lucid iron]

but u dont have to deal with any of that if u dont want to

tiled can open both tmx and tbin(with extension enabled)

oh yea i also check my maps into git

so plain text = can see diffs

[lucid iron]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps

[wise river]

i think i found it- but how do i find what version im on?--

or- windows version

[gaunt orbit]

If you're not sure and don't have a mac, you're on windows

[brittle ledge]

honestly it seems like it would be easier to just turn off SVE's edits than edit the other mod to fit SVE, but ymmv

[serene quarry]

Hi there.
I want to move custom NPCs around on the event map. For example, I want Pam to move around during the Luau, similar to how she does in the base game. I've set it up like this. Please advise.
thank you.

{
  "Action": "EditData",
  "Target": "Data/Festivals/summer11",
  "TextOperations": [
    {
      "Operation": "Append",
      "Target": [ "Entries", "Set-Up_additionalCharacters" ],
      "Value": "Yamionisama 39 7 2",
      "Delimiter": "/"
    }
  ]
},

[tiny zealot]

you will want to continue using TextOperations, targeting "Fields" -> "set-up" -> a reasonable index in the script, and append advancedMove commands targeting the desired NPCs

[brittle ledge]

pretty sure I use field 5 for festival animations

[tiny zealot]

if you don't already know, be advised that every festival now has two maps (for odd and even years), so there are _y2 keys involved as well

[brittle ledge]

                    "Operation": "Append",
                    "Target": ["Fields", "set-up{{FestivalYear}}", 5],
                    "Value": "/animate JeanCat false true 100 28 28 28 28 28 28 28 28 28 28 29 30 31 32 33 34",
                },```

what I use for festival animation (the {{FestivalYear}} adds in the _y2 tag on even years)

[faint ingot]

hello, its me again, I have come back for more chastisement. I'm the one who had their NPCs everywhere with "Shannon" and "Russell" as internal names instead of something firmly unique

I'm starting revisions and want to make sure I have the right idea before I do this everywhere, do I have the right idea to do it in this fashion? {
"LogName": "Russell Blank JSON load",
"Action": "Load",
"Target": "Characters/Dialogue/{{ModId}}_Russell, Characters/schedules/{{ModId}}_Russell, Strings/schedules/{{ModId}}_Russell, Characters/Dialogue/MarriageDialogue{{ModId}}_Russell",
"FromFile": "assets/NPCs/Data/blank.json"
},

sorry { "LogName": "Russell Blank JSON load", "Action": "Load", "Target": "Characters/Dialogue/{{ModId}}_Russell, Characters/schedules/{{ModId}}_Russell, Strings/schedules/{{ModId}}_Russell, Characters/Dialogue/MarriageDialogue{{ModId}}_Russell", "FromFile": "assets/NPCs/Data/blank.json" },

[brittle ledge]

Yep, that would work and is the most common way of doing it in 1.6

{{ModId}} will output your mod ID, so the internal name will be yourmodname_Russell in this case (with yourmodname being, well, your mod name)

[faint ingot]

yep understood, thank you just confirming

if I was better at regex I'd have a chance of hunting down all these references

wait the abbreviated names are still fine in like event scripts for advancedMove etc, right?

[brittle ledge]

no, those need to be the internal name too

[faint ingot]

[brittle ledge]

can you not do a find/replace on everything that isn't dialogue and the display name?