making-mods-general

[tiny zealot]

there probably isn't a single best answer that applies to every location

[velvet narwhal]

I have three ways to get to my expansion. A secret hole in the quarry mines, a spacecore warp totem, and a secret quest building that acts as an obelisk

[tiny zealot]

for example, for the expansion i'm not yet making, i've cooked up a method to get to [REDACTED] which is, as far as i know, unique

[velvet narwhal]

Your own ass custom c# yeah that works too

[tiny zealot]

you know it

[acoustic summit]

Thats something I noticed, methods for travel often have to be unique if not using a framework, two people cant use the same quarry hole 😛

[velvet narwhal]

Make that 4, I forgot I made a boat ride in c#

[brave fable]

if you're fine with adding Shovel as a requirement you could dig your way there

[rancid temple]

I was tossing around the idea of adding pseudo random islands you can visit Animal Crossing style via plane, I dunno if I have the energy to actually do this idea lol

[velvet narwhal]

The quarry has many walls, Edd boy

[brittle pasture]

chaotic idea: a location that can only be accessed by passing out in a different location

[acoustic summit]

That could be really fun for a secret location

[brittle pasture]

no monsters though, so have fun bombing yourself

or just use fishing rods until you pass out

[velvet narwhal]

Shrimply wait until 3am

[acoustic summit]

Like passing out at 2am inside lewis's house sends you straight to hell

[velvet narwhal]

Or the secret room

[acoustic summit]

The floating lucky purple shorts makes me* feel like its already close to hell

[tiny zealot]

if you were making a place like Magicant, the travel method could be "sleep in a specific bed". anything is possible

[velvet narwhal]

I'm tempted to make a cp patch if possible to change ichors portable hole to the sims1 magic hole with arrow

[brave fable]

love of cooking on the backburner while i go out and get some inspiration to redraw that boat cutscene from a while ago

[tiny zealot]

go for it, all the assets are loaded in so you can just EditImage/EditMap them

[brave fable]

i steal this boat. the perfect size

[acoustic summit]

I miss Sydney sooo muchhh

[tiny zealot]

(some alternate map appearances and item textures are on my list of improvements to make down the line)

notably i want to have at least one other texture for the holes that is nicer for colorblind players

[brave fable]

how'd you know that photo's from sydney. i've been rumbled

[velvet narwhal]

There'd be like 5 people who get the reference of the magic zone from sims1 though

[acoustic summit]

Just a lucky guess I think, there isnt any definable tourist attractive visible in the photo, right?

[brave fable]

that could be from anywhere

[tiny zealot]

i had not looked behind the spoiler and i assumed you were talking about the NPC

[brave fable]

i know i shouldn't redraw a sprite that's only like a month old but man i want that boat

[velvet narwhal]

From what my bad memory can remember the boat you had looked great

[brave fable]

but new thing. shiny thing. yacht

have u considered that

[velvet narwhal]

I have not

[acoustic summit]

Does your boat ride go from the right of the beach, on the second dock? I saw that as a spot to maybe use 😮

[velvet narwhal]

My boat ride is attached to my own custom location that then does a little timed event to move to the full expansion

I barely touched vanilla for full compat

[acoustic summit]

Valid, very valid

[tiny zealot]

vanilla is so crowded, the struggle is real

[brave fable]

i doubt ill even have my charas leave their location lol, i don't want to deal with other people

very realistic

[acoustic summit]

I just want a place that you can walk to, but that seems very difficult without breaking compat 😦

[velvet narwhal]

First message will always be: "is this compatible with SVE?" Me: I mean sure, but my expansion is suited to be a midgame to near perfection playstyle

I like the idea of catering to people bored of the late game

[brave fable]

i cater to those who don't play (me)

[tiny zealot]

i think the best way to handle this is to be a little flexible and have a few potential spots. then you can use the one that works best with the user's mod loadout by checking for stuff that conflicts with you

[velvet narwhal]

Sidenote is it unreasonable to lock a romanceable behind a 50m quest

[brave fable]

that sounds like a nightmare lol

[tiny zealot]

50... meters?

[velvet narwhal]

50 million doller

[brave fable]

having multiple map patches with different layouts and world map edits and schedule setups? id rather just mark it as incompatible

[rancid temple]

Only if the goal is to keep anyone from ever interacting with it

[tiny zealot]

i think that's unreasonable, yeah

[velvet narwhal]

I currently have the idea set at 10mil but it honestly might be funnier

[acoustic summit]

I was 100% thinking 50 minutes lol

[velvet narwhal]

drat

[tiny zealot]

lock the CanBeRomanced flag behind a five-minute unskippable cutscene

[brave fable]

like my current map entry patch straight up destroys the useless playground in town. if someone's modded the kids to go there then they're gonna have to find some bugs on the ground to play with

[velvet narwhal]

.... I've already done this except not unskippable

[tiny zealot]

or make it skippable but don't set a skip action so it can be lost forever

[brave fable]

'i could only ever love someone able to beat Junimo Kart(r) in 3 continues or fewer '

'u have 10 minutes'

[hard fern]

...i feel so tempted to add a basement or something

[teal bridge]

Does SMAPI do semver checks for mods depending on other mods? I'm curious if graduating a mod to 1.0 will cause it to blacklist mods depending on the 0.x version.

[brittle pasture]

no, smapi only has min version I think

[tender bloom]

I believe only “or newer” yeah

[velvet narwhal]

that'd be a #modded-stardew question

unless you want to make your own, then we can help you

[jade pond]

Oop sorry clicked the wrong channel

mb

[hard fern]

how do you add a tile property to a tile that doesn't normally have it?

like "diggable T"

[acoustic summit]

I think you can do that in tiled, or in c# via setTileProperty, not sure for cp

[hard fern]

😔

it didn't work in tiled

i wanted to be able to plant trees on these spots, but setting the tile properties didn't change anything...

[foggy kiln]

Perhaps you could set a TileData: Diggable T in the back layer?

It just requires setting one for each spot where you hope to plant trees. I guess this isn't a very good solution, but it's the only method I know.

[hard fern]

😅 so apparently just that one tile didn

*didn't like me

switching it to a different tile fixed everything?

i can now plant as many banana trees as i could ever want

[foggy kiln]

I have two custom maps (as different mods) that add green crystals as teleportation points in the original greenhouse, but they are not compatible with each other now (the positions of the green crystals are different, so theoretically they should not affect each other). If I use either one alone, it works very well, but when using both at the same time, only one can be loaded and displayed. How can I modify the content file to make them work together?

[hard fern]

? you cant

wait

am i understanding this right?

...maybe im not

[velvet narwhal]

if it's a 1 tile editmap, you should have compatibility

[hard fern]

mhm

[whole raptor]

How is it possible that down arrows turned into stars..? (someone posted it on my v2 fix)

[velvet narwhal]

uhhh i have forgotten what symbol it is

[hard fern]

but if you're loading the whole greenhouse, then it's incompatible...

[velvet narwhal]

try = ?

oh wait no that is the star

[foggy kiln]

I added green crystals through "editdata" without modifying the original greenhouse map. In theory, they should be able to be used simultaneously, but unfortunately, they cannot.

[hard fern]

ok, but.. what exactly is the situation with the maps...?

[whole raptor]

I meant like without my fix (with just original v2) they are supposedly normal arrows, just without a recolor, which is confusing me even more 😅

[hard fern]

i can't really understand what you're talking about without some kind of example, more detail, etc...

or an image of the map

[velvet narwhal]

oh, does one of their mods change something in the spritefont then?

[hard fern]

can i see the content.json?

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[whole raptor]

No idea yet, just asked for the log

Those arrows are in fonts?

[hard fern]

yeah? they should be i think

[velvet narwhal]

i'm like 85% sure, but > turns into -> arrow

[foggy kiln]

Sorry, I'm launching the game to take a screenshot, so my replies might be slower. (By the way, how do I post text in code format? I'm not very familiar with it.)

[velvet narwhal]

just uploading the json link that smapi gives is good enough, large code blocks here make it hard to read

but if you're doing small ones

!codeblock

[ocean sail]

You can embed code in Discord using a series of three ` :
```
Your code can go here
Even if not a haiku
Just an example
```

For syntax highlighting, add the language code on the same line as the first
``` (with no space, like ```json).
The usual codes are cs (C#) and json.

To use this command, type !codeblock.

[whole raptor]

Hmm either I'm blind or I don't see them anywhere

[timid ice]

@stable grotto Just a heads up - Vibrant Pastoral Redrawn is missing a dependency in the manifest - It requires MixedBag's Tilesheets, but lacks the dependency in the mod manifest.

[foggy kiln]

Oh, thank you, I understand. Do you need me to send both content files as links?

[velvet narwhal]

...loosesprites/font_bold/font_colored ?...

i don't see a down arrow in here

[stable grotto]

it's deliberately missing since I didn't change mixedbag's dependecy from grapeponta.VibrantPastoralRecolor to VibrantPastoral.C when I updated to 3.1.0

[foggy kiln]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/ac6ee1fbce9b4ac398f211dfc875da9

https://smapi.io/json/none/c4d2a4754d044e8296828cfee5d288e5

[hard fern]

?

[whole raptor]

Huh.. I wonder where it comes from then Maybe SVE adds it's own arrow? Since those are SVE locations..? But that wouldn't make sense why it turned to star.. I think

[timid ice]

Fair enough - But it turns out you can hit it from the wrong side and break things. VPR tries to load when Mixedbags is missing.

https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1309779610631933993

[foggy kiln]

https://smapi.io/json/none/5d124622f86f41bf9ddfde680d944299

[stable grotto]

best case would be if I got elle's permission to add the compat for her Dirt and Cliff Recolor
then I'd at least have a good reason to update

[stable grotto]

only if you ignore the dependencies on nexus

[whole raptor]

Oh yeah, I guess it is SVE

[timid ice]

Yeah, but people do that or they assume they have it already - Most mods will fail gracefully and not do a partial load. Either way, I just wanted to bring it to your attention in case it was a mistake.

[hard fern]

SVE moment (?)

[whole raptor]

I see the old "When in doubt, blame SVE" still works

[stable grotto]

oh, I knew about it before I uploaded VPR, that's why it's missing

[timid ice]

Alright. Either way, problem solved. In this case, intentional design decision, and that's the end of that. Thanks for responding so quickly.

[velvet narwhal]

as far as i can tell... nothing is loaded named As's go-van-dsp.tmx so i'm... unsure as to where the dsp is pulling from nevermind i have to get used to re-reading how the editmap goes from there

it looks sound, but i haven't tried to do an overlay with a single map in two different mods, what happens if you set them to false dependencies on one

[foggy kiln]

Those are the mods I uploaded to Nexus Mods. As a beginner, I made quite a few strange mistakes (though maybe they're not even mistakes)...

One of them I haven't uploaded yet, because editing the same map has caused one of them to stop working.

[foggy kiln]

I will try it.

[velvet narwhal]

If you haven't uploaded it would it be easier to merge I don't know which one is the one you published

[foggy kiln]

One cop is uploaded as an additional map, while the other was initially uploaded as a replacement for the greenhouse map. Later, I wanted to make an extra map version, but after encountering problems, I didn't upload it and the progress has been halted.

As_cop_greernhouse

[whole raptor]

This also very much explains the star

[hard fern]

😔 so it was sve all along

[whole raptor]

Is purple star even used anywhere? Just out of curiosity

[brave fable]

yep, it's attached to every stardrop message

i use it in loc whenever strings mention the special powers tab in the game menu

so I guess SVE is going to make that look a bit silly

[whole raptor]

Yeah... I guess I might remember seeing a weird arrow when spouse gave me the stardrop on the porch, so that's what it was

[brave fable]

could they have possibly used a less-important character for the down arrow lol

like the stardrop icon in stardew valley

rly

[hard fern]

What about that thing on a skateboard

[brave fable]

don't you dare touch him

[unreal spoke]

That's just a weird thing to patch in general.

[hard fern]

😭 ok, skateboard guy will be unscathed

[brave fable]

he said see ya later boi

[hard fern]

I know he shows up on one of Emily's letters though

[whole raptor]

... why

[brave fable]

he's the best thing emily's got

it'd be nice if sve could just extend the font or something equally ridiculous instead of eating a character

[whole raptor]

Yeah, definitely a weird choice

The rest of the locations don't really interfere, but why Farm..?

[brave fable]

wouldn't that make, say, the grandpa cutscene noticeably weird

i'm proud of you, my beloved grandchild. you have earned a 👇 Stardrop

[hard fern]

Hes pointing to the stardrop

[finite ginkgo]

Cool little dude in sunglasses riding a skateboard is essential to me one of my WIP npcs uses them extensively in dialogue

[whole raptor]

It's hard to believe it was never pointed out (as far as I know)

[foggy kiln]

Well, I tried it out and it seems to be of no use.

[tight rivet]

...

So I was checking out Shiko

I spotted this: "@Litten1110 It didn't pass review, because I decided for it to not pass review and I asked MissCoriel to delete it since some "morally superiour" people here couldn't contain their desire to just instantly report something that was doing the community a service at the end of the day. That is why I decided to have it deleted. MissCoriel advised me to post it somewhere else which isn't NexusMods, which is something I might do some day depending on how much I care to post my days of wasted effort to the Internet again."

.. yes it didn't pass review because you don't have permissions to do any of that.

... is this a thing that's going on? Anyway, I don't want to go further b ecuase on reflection this could start an argument.

[lucid mulch]

While there is a certain double standard in the rule, at the end of the day nexus mods has the right to have it's rules and them being enforced.

For what it's worth, at least smapi has first class support for mods not on nexus mods and will do update notifications for curseforge, moddrop and GitHub, and can also be pointed at arbitrary hosts. Even if discoverability of the mods is unfortunately centralised on nexus

[latent mauve]

Friends, what am I doing wrong here? The asset won't load at all, and thus keeps complaining that the texture is missing when I try to give myself the item: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/65f0e672bac0492d9f97823b9bc64cff

[rancid temple]

Are you Including it?

[latent mauve]

I just showed that as an include for an example so the log site wouldn't fuss about the formatting, it's actually directly in my content.json

[uncut viper]

are the tilesheet names supposed to have quotes? does your log say anything?

[latent mauve]

Here's my SMAPI log, it's just fussing about the texture asset missing: https://smapi.io/log/bc62214551e44f2db1d9f24b7019a490

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.7 with SDV 1.6.14 build 24317 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 17 C# mods and 11 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[finite ginkgo]

I would try removing the quotes from the timesheet name, it sounds unusual to me to need to quote it

[uncut viper]

the vanilla furniture doesnt use quotes

[rancid temple]

Hm, yeah, I'm not using quotes on mine

[latent mauve]

okay, reattempting without quotes

I'm just used to using them because I was messing with String references and schedule dialogue before

quotes were the issue!

Now I have to fix the problem with the sprite cutting off weirdly and being the wrong size when it's supposed to use the default for the type

[lucid mulch]

A reminder of a quirk of how Content Patcher (and by extension the SMAPI Asset Pipeline), Just because you have a Load statement doesn't actually load the asset, it just defines the behaviour on the event the asset is attempted to be loaded.
Loads (and Edits) all happen lazily at the moment the assets requested

The only exception really being vanilla assets, as the game eager loads most of them, and SMAPI on asset cache invalidation will tell vanilla to reload

I'm somewhat surprised in the logs that didn't attempt to load an XNB file, but the quotes may have convinced it to be an invalid filename instead

or smapi/vanilla has gotten smarter in 1.6.9+ and doesn't try to hit filesystem reads anymore for files that don't exist

[rancid temple]

Well that field is for a texture asset, so maybe that's why?

[lucid mulch]

it would still use the asset pipeline to load that asset, and the asset pipeline always falls back to vanilla xnbs

As the vanilla Data/Furniture specifies texture assets that are xnb's

[rancid temple]

I thought I had seen this before, these are the only types that have set defaults

[latent mauve]

good to know, removing all my -1s xD

[rancid temple]

9 doesn't have a specific default, just falls to the switch block default of 1, 2 lol

[worn coral]

Nah -1s are totally fine if it works - just note which ones have "unexpected" results and you'll be able to take advantage of them. The -1 makes it much easier to maintain (since the vanilla values are extremely unlikely to change for those) and would let you convert easily to other frameworks if you were interested later on

[rancid temple]

I think I prefer looking at the decompile to see the actual values lol

I dunno what other furniture you've got, but even base game defines the expected tilesheet size for the Child Bed

Rather than using default values

[latent mauve]

It's a sheet of just Child Beds

I've changed all the values but some of the beds are still complaining about missing textures? I'm so confused

[rancid temple]

How are the entries set up now?

[latent mauve]

also they are absolutely not the correct spriteindexes for some reason

fixed the missing texture issue, I missed a " for one line

[rancid temple]

Well, the index is probably based on TileSheets/furniture, so your sheet needs to be set up like that

[latent mauve]

But the sprite indexes are still very wrong

?

[rancid temple]

This sheet is a mess, I'm not really sure how the indexing works here lmao

[latent mauve]

I suppose it was too much to hope that it would understand that the new sheet was a bunch of 2x4s with the front section after the main bed. xD

[rancid temple]

Yeah, index is generally based off the default texture

This explains why the furniture id's are so fucking batshit

[latent mauve]

I did manage to hit on ONE spriteindex that it likes for an actual bed, it's just not the one I needed. LOL

[rancid temple]

Oh god, I think it's 16x16 per index

[latent mauve]

oh no

that explains a bit

8, 12, and 16 seem to work

[rancid temple]

Alternatively you could just load each texture separately and have 0 indexes all around lmao

[latent mauve]

also it's 6am, I should probably just go to bed and deal with this after some sleep

[calm nebula]

good morning!

[shadow pagoda]

Let's say I have a chest at tile [x,y] that has 12 parsnip seeds in the Farm House. I have a method that will tell me the number of items found in a certain location. If I set location to be the Farm House and itemId to be 472, it will return 12. Though I'm wondering if there's a way to return the the specific chest (or tile of said chest) that the seeds are in.

public static int GetItemCountInLocation(GameLocation location, string itemId)
{
    int count = 0;
    Utility.ForEachItemIn(location, delegate (Item item)
    {
        itemId = ItemRegistry.QualifyItemId(itemId);
        if (itemId == null)
            return false;
        bool itemFound = false;
        if (item.QualifiedItemId == itemId)
        {
            itemFound = true;
            count += item.Stack;
        }
        return !itemFound;
    });
    return count;
}

[lucid iron]

You have to iterate chests instead, instead of using the utility

[brave fable]

well you could still use the utility and check for if (item is Chest chest && chest.items ...)

depending on what you want to do with it, of course

[uncut viper]

1.6.9 added a way to get the path to an item for some overloads or something for those methods i think but, alas, the wiki,

The advanced forms now use a context object, which also provides the 'path' to the item. For example, an item inside a chest would have a path consisting of the location and chest:

Utility.ForEachItemContext(delegate(in ForEachItemContext context)
{
    // remove pufferfish inside chests
     if (context.Item.QualifiedItemId == "(O)128" && context.GetPath().Last() is Chest)
        context.RemoveItem();
    return true;
});

this is for the advanced foreachitem form e.g. Utility.ForEachItem((item, remove, replaceWith) => ...))

i assume theres one for InLocation too but idk

[shadow pagoda]

Thanks for confirming it's possible. I don't fully understand this now, but I'll look into more.

[uncut viper]

ok yeah theres just Utility.ForEachItemContextIn(GameLocation location, delegate(in ForEachItemContext context) { ... it seems

i think you just need to replace your current delegate (Item item) with the kind of delegate from that example block and then just grab the item from the context instead

[shadow pagoda]

I'll test it now

[uncut viper]

GetPath() will return a complete path for how to find the item but if its in a chest then Last() should return the actual chest its in

[shadow pagoda]

I made the following method that returns a list of chests. Then I put a big chest with the seeds in the farm house. However, the returned list is always empty. I used the debugger, and the context.Item.ItemId check seems to be true, so the issue mut be with context.GetPath().Last() is Chest. Not sure what the problem though

public static List<Chest> GetItemLocations(GameLocation location, string id)
{
    List<Chest> chests = new List<Chest>();
    Utility.ForEachItemContextIn(location, delegate(in ForEachItemContext context)
    {
        if (context.Item.ItemId == id && context.GetPath().Last() is Chest)
            chests.Add((Chest)context.GetPath().Last());
        return true;
    });

    return chests;
}

[uncut viper]

unfortunately since they're both new and also not methods I've used before, that's about as far as my knowledge on how to use em goes
they're on the 1.6.9 migration page on the wiki though, if you're able to get that to load

[shadow pagoda]

Never heard/seen that page before (assuming you're taking about this wiki https://stardewvalleywiki.com). Based on your previous messages, I assume it's down?

[uncut viper]

it's been very spotty the last week

[strange wave]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Migrate_to_Stardew_Valley_1.6.9 is the page you're looking for. If it loads

[shadow pagoda]

I see, thanks

[strange wave]

You're welcome

[pine elbow]

Hello, just a small interruption sorry
not exactly a code help question, but I've only just started learning c# syntax /etc/whatever

I assume, by this, they're asking for translator support...?

[uncut viper]

yeah i18n is short for international which is translation support

Internationalization

[strange wave]

Yeah, they want your mod translated. You can find more info on it here https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Translation

[uncut viper]

auto correct took away the ization oops

[shadow pagoda]

Slightly related, what do the delegates return value mean? That may be the issue. When I was making this method #making-mods-general message, I originally had it always return false, which made caused it to never process any items besides weed.

[uncut viper]

for those utility methods the return value should determine whether or not you want to keep iterating

so, returning false means "stop iterating over every item in the world"

[calm nebula]

killjoys

[pine elbow]

Got it, ty!
I thought it was that but then got confused because there's nothing in my mod to even translate, it's an editimage cp mod lmao

[calm nebula]

this is so much uglier

[calm nebula]

do you have any config options

[pine elbow]

nope, no configs

[lucid iron]

Atrng adventures

I think you can ignore em, maybe they thought u changed the channel text

[calm nebula]

Just tell them there is no translatable text in the mod

[uncut viper]

is there text in the image?

[pine elbow]

Nope no text either,
it's this one: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/29589?tab=description

[uncut viper]

oh. then yeah I'm with chu

[calm nebula]

o.O the ai learns!

[shadow pagoda]

fixed this. Taking a closer look, GetPath() doesn't grantee the last element is a Chest

[uncut viper]

ofc not, but your if statement was checking for that, wasn't it?

[shadow pagoda]

Originally yes. I just assumed that based on the code snippet on the wiki. I can't come up with a reason why someone would only check one seemingly random index

[calm nebula]

if something is in a chest, the last thing in GetPath should be the chest it is in[*]

[shadow pagoda]

I can run it again, but I believe the last index was something along the lines of player inventory

[lucid iron]

Do you have that item in your backpack too

[calm nebula]

is it Worth It TM?

(I'm looking at the difference between the second and third lines, where I skip out on the expensive cryptographically secure init of new Random())

[shadow pagoda]

Yes. I just rechecked, so there is are a seed in both the chest and the backpack, but it only returns the chest now. Even though I know it returned like 4 objects last time

[lucid iron]

Hm maybe it's cus u are using item id

Instead of qualified item id

Item id only guaranteed unique within same class, eg there's (O)130 and (BC)130

[tight rivet]

In this case, the issue is less the hypocripsy of Nexus, it's the fact that Shiko's permissions are "You cannot do anything to this without my express permission." and Coriel is suggesting a way to get around that by posting what is essentially an unapproved mod elsewhere

[lucid iron]

Hm how do unofficial updates work then

[tight rivet]

a lot of times they're to mods that are open enough that you can post it somewhere.

[brittle ledge]

I would hope Coriel didn't actually tell them to post the mod elsewhere and that's just this guy reading inbetween the lines of "you can't post this on Nexus"

[fathom hound]

where can i find this btw? didnt see it in cursors or tilesheets

[calm nebula]

it's an emote

[fathom hound]

dont see it in emotes

[slender badger]

It's in Cursors next to the skip box

[fathom hound]

tysm!

[tight rivet]

tbh now that I'mawake that's kinda what I'm thinking too, but also the tone of it was just "I was doign this for you!" and I.. >_>

[lucid iron]

f Shane 2500/D means 10 hearts + dating shane?

[tight rivet]

I think so

[lucid iron]

i am once again using this channel in place of wiki

[calm nebula]

doesn't it need to be f Shane 2500/D Shane

[lucid iron]

is there a dating flag for dialog?

ah ok the / was delim

[calm nebula]

dialogu?

you can use gsq

[lucid iron]

hm so game doesnt have innate dating version of dialog?

the thing i am attempt to solve is that some modded npc seem to give me "dating" dialog when i am not dating but above 8 hearts via this mod https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/4668

but hm i am unsure if i can do anything about this besides harmony on content patcher & w/e other mod that give u more control over dating/not dating

[brittle ledge]

do said modded NPCs have platonic 8/10 heart dialogue though?

What I'm planning to do is conditionally patch 8/10 heart dialogue depending on whether you're dating or not

[calm nebula]

You know how you start something

And then it slowly gets worse

[lucid iron]

so the mod i recall this happening on was ridgeside village, which does use "Relationship:Kiarra": "Dating", and so on

[calm nebula]

...

[lucid iron]

hard to find exact npc to check if its a rsv bug tho, perils of not immediately investigating

tho its not really a bug even, cus i am enable a normally impossible scenario (10hearts but not dating)

[calm nebula]

no, platonic sets the status of the npc to dating internally iirc

it's weird

tbh it would be better to just make the npc not date-able

[lucid iron]

i thought it only did that for draw

welp what if i just

change the draw of the little relationship indicator

the actual reason i wanted this mod is that i am dum and forgot if i max out friendship already when i see the 8 heart purple orb

i suppose i could just do mass data edit to make everyone except npc i actually want to marry not datable

[brittle ledge]

Hm, Kiarra should have platonic 8 heart dialogue, I think (since she becomes nondateable if you go Joja) but I wouldn't expect her to have 10 heart platonic. AmaranthCyan was working on a Ridgeside addition for PPAF (which edits the romantic dialogue to platonic options) but I don't think they released it yet.

[lucid iron]

oh i see

yea i checked the i18n they do seem very romantic

patch the dialog box draw it is

[brittle ledge]

so yeah the issue isn't so much that we can't have nondateable 10 heart dialogue, it's that most dateable NPCs don't add the actual lines for 10 heart nondateable

[lucid iron]

hm

yea nvm i got no magic solution here

what r these

[unreal spoke]

... unused beta portraits?

[lucid iron]

strange things in cursors

i like modern art marnie(?

[slender badger]

They're part of Leah's 14 heart event

She teaches you how to paint with Marnie as the model and asks you which style she should go for

[unreal spoke]

Oh! That's actually pretty neat. Another reason to get that 14 hearts events for all mod, huh?

[slender badger]

You know it

There's also a sprite for the farmer's portrait of Marnie which is, uh, pretty wonky

[unreal spoke]

... where?

[slender badger]

LooseSprites/temporary_sprites_1

[unreal spoke]

Oh dear. That's a potato with a wig!

(This is where I'd use the LMAO dog if I had Nitro. We really need an LMAO Dusty emote.)

[slender badger]

The farmer might have hidden musical talents, but apparently doesn't have any hidden artistic talents 😆

[unreal spoke]

I mean... it is a nice potato!

[slender badger]

Typical farmer, too much time looking at potatoes and not enough time looking at people

[fluid marsh]

Hello! Am I allowed to send a SMAPI error message in this channel? It's a bit long -- I wanted to ask so I don't get in trouble for spam or anything. Ty :)

[hard fern]

Hmm, regarding 10-heart romantic dialogues,... The platonic friendships mod makes it so you can reach 10 hearts without dating the dateable npcs, right? It's been a while since ive used it ..

[proven spindle]

!mh

[ocean sail]

For help with modding issues, please ask in #1272025932932055121! When asking for assistance there, sharing an error log will help others identify your issue (see https://smapi.io/log for instructions).

To use this command, type !mh.

[fluid marsh]

Thank you!

[proven spindle]

(Unless it's for a mod you're making, if it is then that would probably go in this channel)

[fluid marsh]

It is!! Sorry I should've added that from the start.

[hard fern]

Then feel free to send the log haha

[lucid iron]

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[lucid iron]

use the parser so u dont explod this chat

[fluid marsh]

Thanks!

https://smapi.io/log/aaa604e1a4764bf1b899227baabd4890 I'm making a portrait mod for Sam and I'm having trouble getting it to work. It says that the version in my manifest is invalid, but there doesn't seem to actually be anything wrong with it.

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.7 with SDV 1.6.14 build 24317 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 5 C# mods and 2 content packs.

[calm nebula]

Show your content.json

[fluid marsh]

Will do, one sec!

Oh shoot I totally just spotted my own mistake, I'm gonna make some tweaks and report back after

[lucid iron]

2000 (250 * 8) is 8 hearts right

[brittle pasture]

yesh

[hard fern]

y...yes?

😭 i totally didn't just look at my npc's 8 heart event to see what number i put there

[lucid iron]

this seems incorrect

public bool IsDating()
{
    if (Status != FriendshipStatus.Dating && Status != FriendshipStatus.Engaged)
    {
        return Status == FriendshipStatus.Married;
    }
    return true;
}

[hard fern]

good ol schedule bonk?

(i had this same problem)

[lucid iron]

ah nop its fine

[patent atlas]

decompiler go brrr

[final arch]

why?

iirc that check is used for events and youre supposed to be able to see the "dating" events when you are engaged or married, too

[lucid iron]

no its fine i was just dumb

misread the != in my head

[patent atlas]

status is dating or engaged or married

but decompiler goes brrr

[lucid iron]

im not sure what this code would look like in source

[patent atlas]

i would imagine literally

Status is FriendshipStatus.Dating or FriendshipStatus.Engaged or FriendshipStatus.Married

or the == equivalent

[calm nebula]

Status is Friendship.Dating or Friendship.Engaged or Friendship.Married

the decompiler sometimes has fun

[patent atlas]

it can do so as a treat ocasionally

[calm nebula]

left is decompiler. right is source

[patent atlas]

yo i want to draw something dynamic in the mod settings panel, is this ok or a nogo? Dynamic as in a table listing blacklisted monsters which can be updated by user action in-game

mainly equiping a frog trinket

meth2

[patent atlas]

i assume this would mean recalling SetupConfigMenu during game?

but idk if thats something i should do

[lucid iron]

mod settings like GMCM?

[patent atlas]

ya

[lucid iron]

u need to make a custom option

[patent atlas]

a custom option?

oh i think i remember methods mentioning that in the interface

documentation reading time

[lucid iron]

although

if the list of monsters is known and doesnt remove

[patent atlas]

nice it has acallback when the menu is opened which means I don't need to fill my code with events

[lucid iron]

u could just continue to add more checkboxes

[patent atlas]

nah, it does remove

[lucid iron]

what mod is completely deleting a monster type

[patent atlas]

nooo not deleting monsters

it's my BetterFrogControl mod, when a player tells their frog to spit a monster out it is added to the frog blacklist

so the frog doesn't eat that same monster / monster type

[lucid iron]

yea like, the ez impl would just be

[patent atlas]

and these blacklists are cleared during gameplay when the player exits a lvl or time passes or whatever

[lucid iron]

get the monster data and add 1 checkbox for each monster

u can update the config to reflect changes this way

but u do get more freedom if you just make custom menu ofc, up to you

[patent atlas]

thank you!

I'll try out the complex option thingie

see what i can do with it

[lucid iron]

if u want u could just add a button in gmcm

to open ur own menu

then u can optionally let ppl hotkey that

https://github.com/Mushymato/MachineControlPanel/blob/master/MachineControlPanel/Framework/ModConfig.cs#L11-L54

[tough crater]

I re-did my NPC's gift tastes (trust me, the file was clunky since I was listing individual items and wasting my time in the process lol). I know that there are gift categories such as -2 for gems, but how come there isn't a category for artifacts? Minerals get their own category too

[warm tulip]

I have ask him the permission for publish (not respond yet and probably never) but it's just for me and my friends that's all

[unreal spoke]

These sprites in Cursors are unused in 1.6, right?

[uncut viper]

those look like character/save creation menu sprites to me?

[unreal spoke]

Ah, sorry – I mainly meant the horse. I know it used to be in the inventory screen next to your farmer, but the new animal tab uses part of the whole sprite instead.

[hard fern]

I havent seen the horse used anywhere....

I don't think so, at least?

[unreal spoke]

Like I said, I know it was used in 1.5 for sure, but I haven't seen it anywghere in 1.6. Meh. I think I'll just leave the patch in. Thanks!

[final arch]

that horse is used on the world map to show where the horse is I thiiiink?

maybe thats only NPC map Locations tho

unless that changed in 1.6? 🤔

not sure Ive had a horse in 1.6 yet

[unreal spoke]

Oh, well that's certainly a reason not to remove the patch!

[final arch]

lmao sry for the farm name, was a random image from google... 😅

[unreal spoke]

I didn't even see that, ha. I can confirm both pet and horse info were moved from the main inventory screen to the animal tab.

[final arch]

oh so it might actually be gone mhh

does the horse show on the worldmap in vanilla?

[unreal spoke]

Doesn't look like it.

[final arch]

k Im out of ideas where its used then :p

[calm nebula]

things will get worse before they get better

is still going

[patent atlas]

hell yeah intermediate language !!!!

[unreal spoke]

No worries, that was very helpful!

[calm nebula]

(for fun, we have decided to stackalloc in IL)

[final arch]

are you even modding sdv? :p

[grave warren]

I am trying to make a mod that adds some custom hats for my me and my friends. How do I start?

[calm nebula]

I mean, what do you think

[lucid iron]

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[lucid iron]

for hats, you can do it via content patcher, but you can also check out fashion sense

[calm nebula]

whooot

[latent mauve]

So as a follow up to this, it appears that multiples of 4, starting at 0 and ending at 28, will line up properly for the furniture sprite index placements. So my solution was to keep the same PNG that had all of the child beds on it, but to load a blank 512 pixel wide and 64 pixel tall PNG for the remaining 8 child beds and use EditImage to grab the section of the image that was needed to remain within those pixel coordinates

And it worked!

[rancid temple]

Is this to avoid dropping down and counting past all the middle and bottom parts of the beds?

[final arch]

well on one hand youre in the SDV modding channel

on the other hand... no :p

ok the log says you are sdv modding so all good :p

[calm nebula]

I find this all very funny

[latent mauve]

Yes

[raw oxide]

hello i'm trying to make some pif door for my personal use but i don't know why the door asset are not loading this is the content pack

[calm nebula]

so

because the furniture asset is slash deliminated

you have to use the other slasshes in your asset name

Mods\\{{ModId}}\\Doors

[raw oxide]

thank you very much just i'm not sure i understand where i should change that ^^'

for the target load ?

[final arch]

at the end of the lines of the Data/Furniture patch

[raw oxide]

okay thank you i will do that ^^

{{ModId}}_Door0": "{{ModId}}_Door0/painting/2 3/2 3/1/100/-1/{{i18n:Door0.name}}/0//Mods//{{ModId}}//Door", like this ?

[rancid temple]

Other way

\\

[patent atlas]

so we are really uspposed to just rawdog UI with direct spritebatch calls?

[rancid temple]

You could use something like StardewUI or SpaceCore

[patent atlas]

hmmmm

will consider

[raw oxide]

{{ModId}}_Door0": "{{ModId}}_Door0/painting/2 3/2 3/1/100/-1/{{i18n:Door0.name}}/0\Mods\{{ModId}}\Door" , like this ?

[patent atlas]

\

\

[rancid temple]

The slash before Mods should still be / the others should be double \\

[patent atlas]

oh

discord

\\

[lucid iron]

yea gmcm isnt a ui framework itself

[patent atlas]

i saw it uses Element and RootElement, I assume that's another mod?

[lucid iron]

in the example button i linked, the actual menu is made with StardewUI

Element/RootElement are from spacecoreui

[rancid temple]

Discord is probably eating your formatting because you're not using the backticks

[lucid iron]

u need to do a dll ref to use that

[patent atlas]

GNA is weird because it seemingly doesn't care about rects when drawing UI?

[rancid temple]

Since Discord uses \ as an escape character

[lucid iron]

so yea pick ur flavor

[patent atlas]

as in, it only cares about the origin position

[lucid iron]

not sure what is mean by GNA

[patent atlas]

XNA

and when you call DrawString or whatever it just draws it and there's no way to know how much space the thing that was drawn actually takes

[raw oxide]

like this ?

[lucid iron]

well yea monogame doesnt come with ui stuff

[calm nebula]

(yes, you would measure the string first if you cared)

[patent atlas]

ya it's all sprites

[calm nebula]

and yes. it's very much manual ui

or you can use focus's lib or casey's lib for it

[lucid iron]

u either do it urself or borrow someone else's work, who did it themselves in your place

[rancid temple]

Yep, that should do it

[raw oxide]

thank you very much for your help

[lucid iron]

stardewui highly recommended

[patent atlas]

unity imgui isn't great but still spoiled me

[rancid temple]

Same

[lucid iron]

its got layouts n stuff

[patent atlas]

aight aight I'll consider, thanks!!

ooh layouts i like

[lucid iron]

and grids that flow properly

and scrolling

theres thread for it #1293051032904925255

[patent atlas]

how would this be done?

[raw oxide]

there is an assets forlder too should i also add it like this ?

[uncut viper]

(stardew has a helper function for it. BellsAndWhistles.SpriteText.getWidthOfString)

[patent atlas]

oh god thank you

that has all the consts I needed

bells and whistles

[rancid temple]

Did you already do a Load to that asset?

[raw oxide]

you mean this : "Action": "Load",
"Target": "Mods/{{ModId}}/Doors",
"FromFile": "assets/Doors.png"

[rancid temple]

Yeah, so you don't need assets in there then

[raw oxide]

okay thank you

[rancid temple]

In the furniture data, I should specify, since your Load is staring me in the face lmao

[raw oxide]

oh like this i applied the changes

[rancid temple]

Looks good, I would put the Load near the top but I think it's probably fine

C# habit to put stuff I'm gonna use later at the top

[raw oxide]

Thank you very much i'll try and see if ti work ^^

[raw oxide]

it worked thank you so much

[old edge]

Anyone can help test my mod? I'm not sure why the seasonal changes are taking effect if I used the default spring tilesheets that I found

[hallow prism]

tilesheets automatically swap seasons if named spring_ something

not sure what you meant by "found" however

[rancid temple]

And if the location is outdoors

[calm nebula]

joy

why is Game1.random different between "load into game" and "sleep into new day" don't answer that question

[old edge]

If I add the island location type as a map property doesn't inhibit the changing of seasonal tilesheets?

[rancid temple]

Not sure if context affects that, the island is using summer tilesheets so it shouldn't trigger the seasonal change anyways

[old edge]

Im confused cause I thought ginger island was summer only but then I found island seasonal tilesheets and I can't find anywhere in the game that's has island seasonal changes

[rancid temple]

What are the island seasonal tilesheets?

[old edge]

Idk they're in 1.6 files

[hallow prism]

they may be the farm one

[old edge]

There's winter island tilesheets and fall but idk where

They are used

[hard fern]

in maps? idk

[hallow prism]

yes i know they are used

by the farm

[lucid iron]

are you using SeasonOverride

[hard fern]

everything is in maps...

[rancid temple]

Yeah, as Lumina said the Farm_Island.tmx uses spring_island_tilesheet1

[old edge]

No I removed the season override because I'm trying to make a seasonal island farm now

[lucid iron]

well, i am not sure why island has seasonal tilesheets either

but they work fine

[old edge]

also if I wanted to alter the starting seeds is it possible?

[lucid iron]

i used them https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/29586

[rancid temple]

They're for the uh... beach? farm

Its internal name is Farm_Island

[old edge]

But it doesn't have the island location context property huh. I'm guessing cause I'm at work lunch break

[rancid temple]

If you mean the farm, it's not on the island, it's a starting farm

[rancid temple]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps#Farmhouse_interior
FarmHouseStarterGift lets you change what's in the starting gift box

[old edge]

I see so it looks like an island but not ginger

Thank you that's helpful

[old edge]

I was also looking at the code for island west is this where the ginger farm is located? The code for blocking the crows is here?

[brittle pasture]

I think it's more accurate that the code for spawning crows is only in the farm class

[rancid temple]

Yeah, it's an event specific to Farm

[final arch]

reasons

[timid plover]

Are there any tutorials on making farmhouse layouts? The wiki page on map editing lists a few properties applicable to the farmhouse, but that's about it.

[rancid temple]

I just realized a limitation on this math I did after uploading my new version... But honestly if someone needs more than 60 HP/s regen then I think god mode might actually be better for them

[solar jolt]

alrighty so how do I convert Json Assets mods yall

[patent atlas]

I've been comparing monster types (for example, two different monsters are slimes) by using monster.Name, is this the way or is there some kind of TypeObject I could use?

[hard fern]

on the sdv wiki, under modding category, there's all the new stuff for Modding:Items

which covers pretty much everything(?)

[brittle pasture]

you should probably be comparing their types instead

[patent atlas]

you mean c# class type?

or a type property?

[brittle pasture]

c# class

[latent mauve]

I don't know that there's a full on tutorial but generally the practice is to start with the unpacked vanilla farmhouse map, save a copy, and make your changes on the copy.

Major considerations for compatibility are the locations of the vanilla renovations. And the fact that the starting farmhouse level has a set starting bed location that can't be changed (9, 8 IIRC)

[patent atlas]

aight

i wish stardew used something mroe like rimworld's defs

[west grail]

Hey everyone, I could use some advice as I am new to modding. I'm well-versed in C# and JSON, so that's not an issue.

I've got my custom item in the game, but I want to know how to make it spawn in the world. Is there a quick way to do that? I've been looking into the code using ILSpy, Visual Studio and prowling around on GitHub, but I can't seem to find it.

The idea is that a barn animal leaves behind an item once a day, at a certain time per day, if a condition is met. I'm using C# to do that while I have a separate content pack for the item itself.

I appreciate any help or advice. Thank you.

[patent atlas]

like a dropped item, or something like a forageable plant?

oh

for dropped items on the worst case you can look into pig code

no

truffles are pickupable?

[west grail]

I tried that but it justs JSON

[patent atlas]

damn it's been a while since I played this

[west grail]

yeah it needs to a pick up item

lol

no worries

[lucid iron]

Are you hoping for normal farm animal business or something else

Normal = just like one of the vanilla animals (pig?)

[west grail]

basically the C# code loops through all barn animals and checks for a condition, and if that condition is met, spawn the item like a truffle would

yes basically

[lucid iron]

I don't think you need C# at all for that

[west grail]

but from looking at the JSON code, it's done one-by-one on each animal, which means it doesn't take modded animals into acconut

account*

that's even better, I'm sure I'm overcomplicating it

[lucid iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/23453?tab=files

Here's a custom "dig up" animal that doesn't replace pig

It's entirely content patcher

[patent atlas]

the creature

[lucid iron]

That said you are subject to the vanilla pig digup rng with this

That's where you might need C#

[west grail]

I'll take a look at least, yeah

[lucid iron]

But I'd worry about that later, get it running with standard setup first

[west grail]

the mod itself is simple: if the animal's fullness is a certain value, leave behind manure that can be turned into fertilizer. I got everything working except knowing how to spawn the manure in lol

yeah. thank you

[hard fern]

Oh they're so cute

[west grail]

I have it doing it once a day but I suppose I could check the fullness sporadically... gives me some ideas. thanks

[lucid iron]

There is a poop mod

[hard fern]

A ...

You're right

[west grail]

😂

[hard fern]

There is.

[lucid iron]

It's independent of animal product tho

[west grail]

I'm sorry the way you said that was funny

[lucid iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/27432

[hard fern]

Iridium poo

[devout otter]

When you set up a shop, is there any way to make "this item only has 50% chance of appearing per day"?

I tried "Condition": "RANDOM 0.5", but apparently that means "50% chance when you open the shop" and I can just get it to eventually appear by closing-opening the shop.

[lucid iron]

Yeah sync random

I forgor the syntax but I'm psure there's a vanilla store that does it

[rancid temple]

Traveler I think

[devout otter]

Aa alright, let me see...

[lucid iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/25988

This one is rando seasonal fish I rmbr the person who came asking about it

[uncut viper]

SYNCED_RANDOM day randomKey 0.5

[timid plover]

One question I had is how do I make sure furniture goes to the right spot when upgrading the house?

[uncut viper]

(you can also change it to tick or season or year and optionally add @addDailyLuck at the end)

[devout otter]

Aa alright, thanks!

randomKey can be anything, right?

[uncut viper]

yeah, and any other random with the same key will be in sync with it

in hindsight putting just randomKey as an example is a vague choice lol sorry

[atomic vale]

why is this happning

i can't get it to go away

[hallow prism]

no idea with the masked stuff and no json

if you censor things you make it harder for people to help, just so you know

[rancid temple]

Looks like you're using Fields wrong, but that's about all I can tell

[uncut viper]

yeah you kinda covered up the stuff that tells you where to look

[atomic vale]

i am trying to add compat and it hates me

[devout otter]

Yar that's alright. And seems like it works! Thank you again.

[uncut viper]

do you have an optional dependency or late priority?

[lucid iron]

why is ur keey big whitespace

did u newline

[rancid temple]

I don't think you do, the game has some hardcoded shifting but I think stuff being in the wrong place is just a common issue with upgrading

[atomic vale]

?

[uncut viper]

Chu's discord didn't scroll📜

[rancid temple]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[atomic vale]

that is the json

[rancid temple]

I'm not downloading that lmao

[uncut viper]

no, use the uploader

[atomic vale]

i forgor 💀

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/9a11766c58bf46178e4905df8bdac0b2

[hallow prism]

you are adding items with just context tags, i am not sure they can work

they probably need some mandatory fields

[rancid temple]

Did you add these fish before?

Because Fields can't add new things

[atomic vale]

these fish should be added

[rancid temple]

By a separate mod?

[hallow prism]

then why not having the context tag directly added to them?

[atomic vale]

yea

[hallow prism]

oh

[rancid temple]

Did you make sure you're patching after that mod?

[hallow prism]

you need a different approach to edit context tags

i don't remember which one but you are not at the right level

let me grab that

[atomic vale]

thx

[hallow prism]

{
"Changes": [
{
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/Objects",
"TargetField": [
"199",
"ContextTags"
],
"Entries": {
"food_soup": "food_soup",
},
},
{
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/Objects",
"TargetField": [
"456",
"ContextTags"
],
"Entries": {
"food_soup": "food_soup",
},
},
{
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/Objects",
"TargetField": [
"457",
"ContextTags"
],
"Entries": {
"food_soup": "food_soup",
},
},
]
}

[drowsy pewter]

food soup

[hallow prism]

replace food_soup by the proper context tag (in both occurence)

food soup

[atomic vale]

this has been causeing me a headache for 2 hours now

[drowsy pewter]

I think you also need to make sure to patch after that mod. As two people said

[uncut viper]

i don't think that's the cause?

[drowsy pewter]

Either with an optional dependency or with priority field

[uncut viper]

you can replace the entire Context tags field if you want. it's not recommended, but you can

[hallow prism]

well

i am pretty sure that "field" isn't formatted that way either

[uncut viper]

you should still do what lumina says though, but that alone won't fix the error

[hallow prism]

but sure, i can try to provide an half incorrect fix!

[uncut viper]

That is how you edit the fields of an item

[hallow prism]

just with field?

[rancid temple]

I believe Fields would work that way, if you wanted to obliterate all the ContextTags

[hallow prism]

this looks odd to me

[drowsy pewter]

It does look like it would work lumina

[uncut viper]

it looks odd because it's absolutely horrid for compatibility

you SHOULD do the way you suggest. But this way works too if you just wanna replace the entire set of tags

[rancid temple]

The warning that was popping up was making me think this mod is trying to access Objects data too early

[drowsy pewter]

@atomic vale You have to make sure your edit order is ordered properly. Your error is because your mod makes edits before the mod that actually adds the fish. When your mod tries to add tags, the fish does not exist yet

[hallow prism]

i mean

i don't remember just "field" being a thing

but well

i didn't open a mod file in like one week

so, an eternity

[rancid temple]

It's Fields in the provided json

[hallow prism]

(except quickly earlier)

[atomic vale]

it is a sperate mod that is adding the fish so how do I fix that?

[rancid temple]

Easiest way is to make your mod dependent on the other

[atomic vale]

what is a optional dependency again?

as the mod is going to be in a mod that doesn't need the mod i am refencing to run but jsut for this compat

[rancid temple]

If it's for compat and you want optional dependency, you'll need to make sure the patch checks if the mod is installed

[hallow prism]

(which i didn't remember either, but i feel it's a pretty niche use case now that most stuff is at deeper level and need targetfields, hence me not remembering fields)

[rancid temple]

Fields is good if you have a single thing nested in models/objects all the way down

As soon as anything is in a list/array, you need TargetField

[uncut viper]

it also works on slash delimited strings too iirc

[drowsy pewter]

yeah ivee used it often

[rancid temple]

    "Dependencies": [
        {
            "UniqueID": "", //whatever the mods unique id is
            "IsRequired": false //optional
        }
    ],

And then in the patch that adjusts their context tags, you need a

"When": {
  "HasMod": "" //whatever the mods unique id is
}

Otherwise you'll get some fun errors when the dependency is missing

[atomic vale]

is this in the manifest?

[rancid temple]

Dependencies is in manifest, When is in the content

[atomic vale]

thx

[rancid temple]

Specifically on the same level as the Action that denotes the patches you'll be doing for the context tags

{
  "Action": "EditData",
  "When": {

  },
  "Target": "" //etc and so on
}

I've started moving mine up so they're more obvious

[atomic vale]

my brain is trying to wrap around this

[rancid temple]

Well, the dependency is the easy part, all you need is the other mods unique ID

Then you can make the switch to using TargetField and worry about the When last

[atomic vale]

thx

you are a lifesaver!

my brain will not explode thank you!

[rancid temple]

I need to figure out how global storage works I guess

[drowsy pewter]

[Unlockable Bundles] cleanupDay was called by NotOnHostComputer -7105846935796677645
[SpaceCore] Doing skill menus
[SMAPI] Skipped reload for 'Cornucopia.MoreCrops/teabushes' because the underlying asset no longer exists.
[Unlockable Bundles] cleanupDay was called by P0 2382915790532795785

This hasn't happened before today but I am getting this error just before I crash on my multiplayer game! Help!
Has anyone seen something like this before? Is it something on my end or do I tell them to re report on unlockable bundles? (no log ofc)

[uncut viper]

without a log im not even sure if that's actually an error or just a warning that doesn't actually affect anything (as in, not the actual cause of the crash)

im like 85% sure the "skipped reloading bla bla" stuff is usually a warning and I don't think that can really cause a crash?

[drowsy pewter]

Okay so it's just a situation where I respond with "Can I get the log according to the instructions please" and they never respond back

[uncut viper]

and then wash your hands of it, yep!

even if I'm wrong they should still give a log

[rancid musk]

Users really love coming up with new and innovative ways to not follow simple instructions to provide a copy of their log.

[drowsy pewter]

So true

[rancid musk]

(I lied. It's not new or innovative they just don't.)

Well the person who uploaded one specific log message to smapi recently for me was pretty innovative

[drowsy pewter]

New and innovative methods such as copy and pasting 60 error message lines into my comment section

[uncut viper]

(it is a WARN level log)

[brave fable]

"here is my error log" ✅
"here is my log error"

[rancid temple]

Skipping because the underlying asset no longer exists is usually what SMAPI says when it's shutting down isn't it?

[uncut viper]

i feel like I've seen it happen once just during gameplay overnight but that might be my memory making things up

that is A cause though I'm pretty sure yeah

which raises a good point. can we even be sure the user crashed? maybe they clicked the X and didn't know what would happen

[latent mauve]

It also happens on a patch reload if you changed the name of an asset for some reason

[rancid temple]

Ah, yeah I can see that

[calm nebula]

it happen sif you use a save-related token in an asset adn then quit to title

but it's completely harmless in that case

ie, I don't hve access to {{season}}PrettyBush anymore but I'm also staring at the title screen

[drowsy pewter]

its a very simple asset in my case, just a simply loaded tilesheet

[uncut viper]

does it rely on season

[drowsy pewter]

uhh

Oh it does

Yeah

[uncut viper]

seems like something a tea bush sheet might

[drowsy pewter]

            "Action": "Load",
            "Target": "Cornucopia.MoreCrops/teabushes",
            "FromFile": "assets/teabushes_{{season}}.png"
        },```

[latent mauve]

I get that message all the time for custom farm maps when I return to the title, yeah, so completely harmless in most cases

[uncut viper]

i would be surprised if unlockable bundles was at fault either lol

[rancid temple]

How about linking to a youtube video of a 2 hour stream they did with two timestamps of the supposed issue, only for it to have nothing to do with your mod?

[uncut viper]

waiting for someone to write a screenrant article about a bug as a report for a mod

[rancid temple]

Or what was that other one... someone got a link to a GPT convo where the person requesting help had uploaded their log to GPT

[uncut viper]

that one takes the cake for me I think, I think I'd rather receive anything else than that as a bug report

[rancid temple]

Technically I guess you could say at least that one had a log involved

[tribal willow]

Oh god I actually just got into this via gpt last week 🫠 to it's credit, the amount of minute details it gets completely wrong really helped me learn how to look up info on my own

[drowsy pewter]

Wow

[uncut viper]

i would say it gets un-minute details majorly wrong too

hour details?

[rancid temple]

Year perhaps

[uncut viper]

maxute

[tribal willow]

Please don't bully my teacher

[rancid temple]

Please learn from anything else

[uncut viper]

you'll not receive any love for any AI like that in here

[tribal willow]

I'm joking!

I promise I'll be asking questions soon enough 🫠

[uncut viper]

all too easy to take it too seriously when it feels like once a week someone comes in citing their chatgpt code for their mod or mod help lol

[drowsy pewter]

"I keep getting this error can anyone help??"
"Yeah post your code though"
"Here's my code by the way i asked chatgpt for help so its probably shit 🤪 but whatever"

[uncut viper]

(that's not an exaggeration)

[atomic vale]

is fish pond water color able to be changed with CP or is it hard codded?

[rancid temple]

CP now

[drowsy pewter]

The worst is when they dont even take it seriously lol its like if you dont think chatgpt can write good code then its not like any of us want to fix it for you

[rancid temple]

I had made a mod for it, but thankfully it was consumed by CP so now I'm free

[uncut viper]

fresh off the 1.6.9 presses for that one

[atomic vale]

is that for my post?

[rancid temple]

Yeah, same for Button's reponse

[atomic vale]

k i can't seem to be getting it to work

[uncut viper]

you might be able to load the wiki page but who knows

[drowsy pewter]

Is the wiki still struggling?

[rancid temple]

Did you change your format to 2.4.0?

[uncut viper]

very much

[drowsy pewter]

Someone put it out of its misery

[uncut viper]

im close to just downloading individual pages as backups that I use often

[rancid temple]

I'm always surprised when I click a page and after the 5 minute load time it actually pulls up a properly formatted page

[uncut viper]

I probably should at least download the migration pages

[rancid temple]

I've taken to not closing pages again, like when I first started modding lmao

[drowsy pewter]

I mean if you download them then we can spread copies around in the channel

Just like the dark ages..

[uncut viper]

lucky you! I just get absolutely no css in mine. Pure white background and black text, no padding, no formatting, all natural

[rancid temple]

That's what I usually get

Just an absolute 90's looking webpage

[uncut viper]

also fwiw the content patcher format version doesn't matter because it doesn't need a rewriter

[rancid temple]

Ah, I'm never sure exactly what features are blocked out by format

[teal bridge]

I don't know, I'd expect a 90s looking webpage to have more animated gifs and background midis.

[calm nebula]

just decompile the game and read the code!

[lucid iron]

what if u just spin up a media wiki mirror

mirahaze can do that right

[uncut viper]

unless you're working off an old decompile/unpack you don't need a modern CP format

[rancid temple]

No joke, I've started doing this and opening contents and mods before the wiki now

[atomic vale]

we might have to

[uncut viper]

edge cases don't interact I didn't think too hard there

[calm nebula]

I'm actually surprised at the sheer number of randoms the game inits

[lucid iron]

r u manually getting each one

[atomic vale]

the wiki is working of for me for now

[calm nebula]

no, most go through a handful of helper functions I'm patching

[rancid temple]

Everyone wants their first game to be procedurally generated

[calm nebula]

most, glares at Game1.random

look at this

[rancid temple]

repeats 61 times... this frame?

[calm nebula]

not necessarily this frame

just 61 times, exact same seed

why 😦

oh my god this is hialarious

[uncut viper]

1000, 7, and 11 are maybe some of the most random numbers i can think of, so that looks good to me

[calm nebula]

it's initiating a random..for every quest...in the quest log...of every farmer

because every farmer is deserialized for the loadgamemenu

[brave fable]

i nominate 8868 as the most random number, being the ascii int value of XD

this number was decided on from years of study by mathematicians and scene girls

incidentally, what's the draw to refreshing the rng? i thought we already had a mod to do this, or is this the continuation

[atomic vale]

what!?

[calm nebula]

so there are two previous mods that try to do this

both kinda just replace Game1.random with their own random impl

but Game1.random is not the problem

the problem is all the times the game initiates a new Random

[brave fable]

ah, so this is another transpiler MIRV

[calm nebula]

MIRV?

[brave fable]

well i was going to call it a carpet bomb of transpilers, but with a bit more precision

another prismatic-everything mod

[calm nebula]

blueberry, there's only one transpiler so far

most (and this is just MOST) of the random number generation (that I care about) goes through a handful of helper functions that I've patched

very few new Random left in the game, there's a handful of things related to a new secret (which I don't care enough about)

the chance of getting prismatics from big meteor

which also I don't care much about

I care more about the day to day randomness of, like, rain chances

(hi Khloe!)

this is the one transpiler

        bool found = false;
        foreach (CodeInstruction instruction in instructions)
        {
            if (!found && instruction.opcode == OpCodes.Ldc_R8 && instruction.operand is double v && v == 0.0)
            {
                found = true;
                yield return new CodeInstruction(OpCodes.Call, AccessTools.Method(typeof(GameLocationForagePatch), nameof(GetValue)))
                                        .WithLabels(instruction.labels)
                                        .WithBlocks(instruction.blocks);
            }
            else
            {
                yield return instruction;
            }
        }

[brave fable]

oh if khloe's around, love of cooking is getting a 2.0 release after the weekend, so you might get some spill-over bug reports if something goes wrong

why do you use if instruction.operand is double v over if instruction.operand is w? seems inefficient of u

[calm nebula]

speaking of rain chance, that's the next feature up

where I'll bend the rain chance higher if there's been a drought

[devout otter]

Yar, you might as well give a blank document and ask people to code from scratch for you. I feel like at that point people should just ask for payment.

[hallow prism]

i feel this way sometimes with users asking for help at every step. It's ok to not want to figure it out, but then it's more fitting to commission someone than having someone else debug every single part every time you're stuck.

[lucid iron]

You can't item query the currency in a shop right

Or use multiple items

Is there demand for such a thing

[calm nebula]

I wonder if it would be interesting to have a third stage for animals

[rancid temple]

My first thought was a la Pokemon and then I realized you probably mean old age

Better yet, give all of them 50 stages like Digimon

[coral horizon]

can stdv tell what health the farmer is at?

i wanted to have dialogue branch off based on if the player was "injured", and i could have the character just ask, and have the responses branch from player input, but it would feel more natural if they reacted

[tiny zealot]

i don't believe there's a built-in way to check player health where NPC dialogue can reach it

[coral horizon]

shucks

questions it is

thanks

[rancid temple]

Seems like the kind of thing that wouldn't be too hard to make a GSQ for, but I currently don't have any mods that touch on doing stuff like that lol

Aside from my personal trash pile mod

[teal bridge]

You're going to break all the predictors if you mess with these... I guess maybe that's the point for you, but I hope you note it prominently in the description.

[calm nebula]

yup, breaking all predictors

but I'm not changing that specifically, I was just more amused because why is it different in MP

[rancid temple]

rAnDoM

[calm nebula]

(to also be fair, I think the

1. I want to be pleasantly surprised by randomness.
   and
2. I want to know the outcome of everything

is not the same person.)

I've been listening to an audiobook about the power of dopamine recently

[scarlet quarry]

Users when reading a smapi log

[tribal willow]

Hey all! I've tried 3 different tutorials for adding an object (food item) into the game, but despite the mod showing up in SMAPI and causing no errors, smapi can't find anything when trying to spawn it in my inventory. Can someone point me in the right direction for reading on what may be happening? json files are all valid, I have a placeholder sprite, etc. Maybe I'm missing something obvious. I've followed tutorials for json assets and content patcher. I'm about to start praying to the moon for guidance.

[lucid iron]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[lucid iron]

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[lucid iron]

post your content.json and your log

[patent atlas]

do ya'll also use #mod-showcase for mod updates?

[teal bridge]

We use our best judgment... most of us. If it's a major or important update, sure. If it's "fixed typo in default.json", maybe leave it be.

[tiny zealot]

it's also courtesy not to flood the showcase with your own posts

[brittle pasture]

@ivory plume if you have time can you look over https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/pull/1028 ? I tested it with WAG 2.0 and it should work. Thanks

[velvet narwhal]

best judgement, either new mods or a major update, if i added like 50 lines of dialogue i wouldn't bother

[ivory plume]

I'll mainly be working on Stardew Valley 1.6.15 for a bit. That's possibly the last update for 1.6 though, so I'll be back on mods full-time after that and start clearing the backlog of PRs, releases, etc.

[velvet narwhal]

(i win the bet then i'm gonna hedge everything on 'possibly last update')

[tiny zealot]

avi getting ready with the eyes emote

[velvet narwhal]

we love divisible by fives

[tiny zealot]

since i've been testing grandpa's evaluation recently... has anyone else had inconsistency getting the event to start when waking up on spring 1 year 3?

[velvet narwhal]

mm i can speedrun it if you want but i don't know how consistent that'd be

[lucid iron]

i only seen it like 4 times

but its always happened for me

[brittle pasture]

huh it should be guaranteed right, as long as you go to bed on winter 28

that's what I got from the testing

[tiny zealot]

it should be, but sometimes it doesn't start for me until i walk outside, see the candles, get assaulted by marnie/kent/demetrius, and then when those are done grandpa shows up

[patent atlas]

I can't even use the showcase actually lol

[teal bridge]

You need to be orange, like us.

[patent atlas]

but I hadn't looked at my page in a while and aparently my mod had been broken for a month due to 1.6.10

[velvet narwhal]

oh cause you're backlogged by events?

[patent atlas]

and i just updated it, so idk if it is major enough

also how do yall test networking

[tiny zealot]

no idea. sometimes it works as expected

[teal bridge]

Honestly, we're signs, not cops, but compatibility updates generally aren't cause for a showcase post, unless they're also major feature updates.

[velvet narwhal]

are you using day skips? i can debug for you on my day off but that's not for another two days

[tiny zealot]

i am exploiting debug commands to get to the right time and meet the requirements (hence the unwatched events), so that could be involved, which is why i asked in the modding channel

[teal bridge]

Of course, if it's something like Love of Cooking that has been broken for years, then maybe it warrants an announcement....

[velvet narwhal]

bluebs on vacation, blissfully hidden love of cooking

[tiny zealot]

but the eval event is in FarmHouse and the requirements are "558291/y 3/H" so i can't imagine why it wouldn't fire on wakeup

[patent atlas]

ya nah neither my mod nor the update are nowhere major enough

[lucid iron]

start 2 copies of the game

join local lan, no ip entered

you also want to test split screen which works different than 2 actual instances

[patent atlas]

huh, dunno why i didnt think of that when my current job involves testing the project doing exactly that

[tiny zealot]

(i don't want to)

[patent atlas]

thanks!

[lucid iron]

well

[patent atlas]

i didn't even know stardew valley had split screen

[tiny zealot]

i also don't know how! i've never seen split screen and i tell myself it doesn't exist and can't hurt me

[lucid iron]

i feel obligated because i am wired that way

unfortunately

[velvet narwhal]

i forget, but events go on a stack don't they? grandpa's is probably going after everyone else's because of the stack

[teal bridge]

I test multiplayer by drinking a Scotch and hoping that it all works out.

[brittle pasture]

I'll test split screen/mp once I get paid for it

[lucid iron]

im done with all this netcode stuff now that trinket is yeeted out of the door

[patent atlas]

trinket?

[lucid iron]

yea i was make a framework

[royal stump]

split-screen support is mostly wrapping any per-person variables in SMAPI's PerScreen<type> class
and you start it by loading a game (not necessarily hosting, you can just click Load), going to options, and clicking this

[tiny zealot]

i believe it, but the others are in Farm and not FarmHouse, so on wakeup i should just get the one. (also, sometimes i do! it's not consistent)

[lucid iron]

i didnt implement hungry frog though, slacc

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/29073

[royal stump]

probably requires a gamepad to test properly

[calm nebula]

yeah, you either emulate a gamepad

or you buy a controller

or you say fuck that shit and knit a sock instead

or argue with ilgen

hey esca! Can I show you something fun

[velvet narwhal]

atra loves showing the new fun thing

[calm nebula]

https://github.com/atravita-mods/StardewMods/blob/23caaed7e6cc66478b111d4917268a07301c16d2/RefreshedRandom/Framework/SeededXoshiroFactory.cs#L33

[royal stump]

sure, can't promise I'll understand it if it's IL or something

[lucid iron]

atra just likes sowing fear in hearts of mortals

[royal stump]

squints yep, good job with whatever those instructions are

[brittle pasture]

almost as scary as Button's pile of IL

[royal stump]

(I did see you were poking at better rng, but yeah, I'm not very familiar with those internals)

[teal bridge]

I've never seen someone get so excited about a PRNG before.

[velvet narwhal]

well atra is now titled 'mathperson' so it checks out

[lucid iron]

this isnt very quantum

[teal bridge]

Meh, he didn't actually create a new algorithm, so it's not math.

[velvet narwhal]

true, you were talking entropy the other day, i was expecting some entropic RNG

[teal bridge]

I mean, I'm hoping for the best, personally, but I maintain that without a distinction between global and derived entropy sources, it's not going to "feel" that much better than what's there now.

[royal stump]

at very least, I like the idea of tricking an rng into using seeds and then tricking stardew into using it

[lucid iron]

the only times ive ever thought about prng in sdv is when i get the dum wizard special orders

and the slime doesnt wanna spawn

[brittle pasture]

prismatic slime/ghost goo I forgor its name my beloathed

[royal stump]

aside from early FTM misuse of them, I remember doing a PR for one of the early rng replacers at some point, I think it had a divide by zero?

basic new Random or Game1.random's good enough for me not to think about it

[teal bridge]

I think you could get decent results by replacing the game's seeded randoms with derived entropies - instead of replacing them all with the same global entropy.

[devout otter]

How do you get your map to use custom tilesheets like from DaisyNiko's Tilesheet? Do I just do it the same way I do vanilla tilesheets? (i.e. copy the tilesheet to my map folder when making map, delete when finished?)

[lucid iron]

i believe daisyniko loaded their sheet, so yep just like vanilla

[devout otter]

On another side of the coin, if I want to load a tilesheet for other mods to use or edit, then I just need to do Load with Maps/<Tilesheetname> as Target, right?

Alright, thanks!

[old edge]

Is there a way to override behaviour and inhibit the crows eating the crops.

[lucid iron]

yes, block Farm.addCrows somehow

[old edge]

Hmmm I already have a class for my farm set up

Or whatever its called

[lucid iron]

well you cant override it, it's not virtual

[velvet narwhal]

~prefix crime~

[patent atlas]

can I remove fields from mod config?

i cant see to find a relevant method in the api

[fallen depot]

Does anyone know where the tilesheets of crops are located?

[brittle pasture]

in the creatively named TileSheets/crops

(Maps/springobjects for the actual crop items)

[woeful lintel]

With GMCM API? nope, you have to unregister and build it again.

[patent atlas]

Damn

[devout otter]

Is there a way to change a map tile to another index via EditData?

[lucid iron]

no but u can editmap

[devout otter]

Oh wait sorry, I meant via EditMap, but not by patching another map onto it.

[lucid iron]

yep map tiles

example https://github.com/Mushymato/MiscMapActionsProperties/blob/main/[CP] Krikos Greenhouse/data/construct.json#L11-L33

this adds 2 tiles to the map

[devout otter]

Wait you can even set tilesheet? So in theory you can do an entire map patch without using Tiled?

[lucid iron]

yep

well, i imagine it's probably pretty bad perf?

and u cant resize the map

[devout otter]

Yea, I imagine nobody would do it like that. But you can.

[lucid iron]

but for small things it might be faster

dont need to parse a whole tmx

thats why i did it

[devout otter]

Here I am making 1x1 .tmx files. 😅

[lucid iron]

well now u can switch over

[devout otter]

This would be very useful. Thank you!

[lucid iron]

say tile action and touch actions r both new in 1.6 right

[hard fern]

? ...no? are they?

now this is bugging me 😭

[lucid iron]

ah nop

it was just actions huh

[oblique meadow]

Can someone help me understand something. So in my mod. When upgrading from farmhouse 1 to farmhouse 2 its randomly shifting everything super far down and right. The map doesnt shift, For all intents and purposes the coordinates should remain the same but it's shifting. Is there something hardcoded im not accounting for?

[velvet narwhal]

renovations don't kick in until farmhouse3, right? it's been such a long time since i've bothered

what exactly is shifting?

!json (but also use this to show us your jsons)

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[tawdry light]

Does anyone know if there is a way to use "textAboveHead" on the farmer during an event?

[velvet narwhal]

can't

[tawdry light]

That's what I thought. Thank u for clearing it up.

[velvet narwhal]

unless you hard image them and use the object above head command

but then the farmer looks like they're holding up a text bubble, but it has been one of the banes of existence

you can possibly get around it by having a completely "transparent" fake npc that is directly underneath the farmer

with ignoreCollisions

(fake meaning, you load something like MyFakeNpc to Characters/MyFakeNpc as a transparent image, you then call that "actor" with addTemporaryActor MyFakeNpc then you set ignoreCollisions MyFakeNpc and warp that thing on top of the farmer and use it to "speak" so to speak)

[tawdry light]

Gotcha. Thanks a lot

I'll see if that's something I wanna do. Since I plan on making many events I might have to learn it eventually. For now tho I think I will just scrap my initial idea since it was just one dialogue bubble anyway and save what you said to use it in the future.

If I get the hang of it I can go back and improve on past events