generic objects i mean
#making-mods-general
uncut viper
next plaza
Ah
lucid mulch
its all moddata and not customfields
lucid iron
i hope this means the framework lets me draw funny shape to use with my watering can
gaunt orbit
it does if you accept json strings
extension assets are definitely the better way though
uncut viper
im just reiterating what they were talking about last night
next plaza
~~it does if you accept json strings~~
extension assets are definitely the bette...
That's a horrendous idea. Converting SpaceCore to require that now
lucid mulch
I cant remember if the new Data/Tools allows specifying moddata to initialize
lucid mulch
ah yeah it does
but it means it only applies on tool creation
so just loading the mod wont make existing tools powerful
next plaza
Yeah, that is a big problem with it
gaunt orbit
custom fields is definitely the better option
next plaza
Or good depending on use case I guess
(Mainly for custom tools)
(Which I know blueberry has been really enjoying exploring the implementation of)
lucid mulch
if they are doing custom upgrades then its useful, but customfields could have done that anyway iirc
gaunt orbit
it's too bad stardew uses type checking for tool type. it would be nice to be able to make a paxel
or I guess just a paxe since shovels don't exist in stardew
calm nebula
Be the change
brave fable
it's too bad stardew has all these custom types for tools and still just lumps all the custom behaviour in a couple of methods around the world that simply check for the type anyway
blissful plover
Is anyone interested in updating a couple of mods? I think the mod creator has quit and has given permission on his page to anyone that wants to update, or use his mods in creating other mods. As long as he gets credit for the original.
lucid iron
im interested in teaching you how to do it
blissful plover
you are? I am like illiterate when it comes to mods.
lucid iron
!anyonecancook
ocean sailBOT
lucid iron
blissful plover
where do I start?
brave fable
blissful plover
Yes. and there is NO ERROR. Nothing at all happens.
lucid iron
ig u also gotta tell us what mod
teal bridge
If it's nothing at all, then I'd guess it's a content pack for some framework that isn't installed.
latent mauve
Make sure you look at the trace log, too, and if it's a patch, run a patch summary.
ok, it's a CP mod, so first thing is checking the paths in the content file
To make sure the targets are right
blissful plover
I don't know how to do that either. It used to require extra map layers, but on his page, he said to delete the dependency, so I did.
teal bridge
And there it is, Extra Map Layers.
blissful plover
Isn't it built in now though?
teal bridge
Is that installed?
latent mauve
Extra Map Layers won't likely need to exist since its obsolete, but you MIGHT need to rename the layers on the map files to align with vanilla
lucid iron
another thing to do is update the content patcher version
2.4.0
*the format version in content.json
blissful plover
Ok. Just type that in place of the last?
lucid iron
this part disables cp migrations, which could have failed to correctly migrate mod but hid the errors
blissful plover
I don't see a reference to Content Patcher in content.json
blissful plover
Oh.
ok i was looking for CP Or Content patcher, etc.
Is that all I need to do?
latent mauve
huh. That mod looks like it uses Dynamic tokens that are set by the config, but the actual asset FromFile for the shed is looking for {{Layout}} which isn't actually set as a Dynamic token. Maybe they just missed that one?
Try running the game with the Format changed and see if there are errors now.
Also I just checked the map files, no renaming of layers needed, they already follow the vanilla structure for the bonus layers (Back, Back1, Buildings, Buildings1, etc.)
hard fern
what do back1 and buildings1 do different from regular back and buildings?
latent mauve
They draw the tile on top of the normal layer without the number, in the order of the number.
brave fable
(they're also purely decorative, and no tile properties or collisions will be checked)
latent mauve
It's for visual drawing layers
(you can also apparently do silly things like add a -1 instead to draw under the base layer, though I've not tried it.)
gaunt orbit
Be the change
I feel like that would require so many transpilers it's not funny
rancid temple
Be the transpiler you wish to see in the world
blissful plover
its slow to load but so far I've got a bunch of red. But nothing refering to this mod.
gaunt orbit
!log ?
ocean sailBOT
calm nebula
I feel like that would require so many transpilers it's not funny
Hilariously shovel did have an insane number of transpilers
blissful plover
ocean sailBOT
Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.7 with SDV 1.6.14 build 24317 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 110 C# mods and 267 content packs.
gaunt orbit
oh I meant making a paxe, but I can only imagine what went into Shovel
brave fable
you want the tool, you play the fool
latent mauve
Trynket, try running a minimal setup if you're trying to fix a mod specifically. Only the mod and its dependency to start.
gaunt orbit
maybe I was the tool all along /jk
calm nebula
oh I meant making a paxe, but I can only imagine what went into Shovel
The rest of my sanity
blissful plover
ok. I can do that.
calm nebula
Thankfully, a year away seems to have restored that
latent mauve
you can figure out the mod conflicts after just in case
blissful plover
but then when I go to check out the mod won't I lose a bunch of stuff?
rancid temple
I was thinking about what it would take to make a paxe yesterday lmao
I think every time I start a new save I have the thought "I fucking hate having an axe and a pickaxe"
blissful plover
Or should I start a new save just for testing? I need to be able to upgrade my shed.
latent mauve
Make a new save to test with
hard fern
i mean 🤔 this is why you do a new save
blissful plover
ok
latent mauve
There are debug commands to give yourself money and items to test a shed build and upgrade quickly on a new disposable save. >_>
hard fern
the mods i always keep for testing are cjb cheat/item spawner, noclip, debugmode, etc... because i kinda hate console commands 😭 me and my fat fingers making typos 5 times ina row
gaunt orbit
ok. I can do that.
so you need to reinstall custom backpack, for one thing.
there's also something feeding nulls to a dictionary, but I'm not sure what without looking at the code for CopperStill
blissful plover
I talked to someone about CopperStill. ITs linked to Cornucopia. There are a few issues so they are working on it but it still works.
gaunt orbit
based on the code it looks like some mod has an item with a null name
wheat finch
Quest article on the mod wiki is a stub and the only thing in the migration guide about quests is that they have string IDs. So I'm guessing there's not an easy way to mod quests with CP and I should convert my void ghost pendant mod to a special order instead of a quest? Quest framework is obsolete and the mod list doesn't list a replacement for it. Thought I'd ask before I make a poor attempt at a CP patch for my three-part quest that is doomed to fail.
gaunt orbit
it's kind of weird that it's not just using the ID instead
blissful plover
Does is say NULL . If i searched for it would that be it or would it be blank
gaunt orbit
Quest article on the mod wiki is a stub and the only thing in the migration guid...
I think 1.6.9 changed stuff with quests, so it may be possible now. I haven't looked at quest stuff since the update
gaunt orbit
Does is say NULL . If i searched for it would that be it or would it be blank
if you are searching json files it will be null
brittle ledge
Quests are doable in 1.6, I believe, I just don't think anyone's looked into it enough to write a tutorial for it?
rancid temple
I know it's come up a few times and it seems like people have had success
blissful plover
So, now How do I check this for errors? Its a brand new vanilla save. How do I get a big shed? LOL
It only works with the Big shed
wheat finch
That would make sense too. Perhaps I'll give it a shot. Worst case Pathos sees me posting and comes to my rescue lol.
rancid temple
CJB to get the materials to build a shed, CJB to instant build, CJB materials to upgrade
tardy adder
Ok I have been playing with CS Critters and I am still not sure how chancy is chance 9-9
wheat finch
Ooh I wonder if RSV did it. Time to dig through their files.
blissful plover
Do i have to put a value in x and y?
rancid temple
Yeah, depends on where the issue is happening, I generally just test by doing stuff as close to as regular game behavior to make sure it's working as I would expect
blissful plover
Yeah, depends on where the issue is happening, I generally just test by doing st...
the issue is that NOTHING at all happens. its like the mod isn't even loading, it doesn't show errors in the log, or anything. I'll load with CJB
gaunt orbit
also sidenote thank you so much @rancid musk for the manifest builder package, it's a lifesaver
wheat finch
How did this mod of mine ever work? I can't tell anywhere in here where I ever told it to trigger the quest only when reaching 10 hearts of friendship with Krobus.
brave fable
it's perfectly possible that it didn't work at all 
hard fern
how many quick questions can i put in one quick question
wheat finch
It had to have at one point or I wouldn't have released it (and would have had a bunch of comments about it on nexus) so 🤷♀️
brittle ledge
<:SDVpuffersweats:585590140806758401> how many quick questions can i put in one ...
Are you asking how many options you can have or whether you can have more than one in an event?
hard fern
like, ex: if i wanted to make branching dialogue
brittle ledge
oh, so you're asking whether you can nest them? Pretty sure you can, yeah
hard fern
ooh
slender badger
Yep, you can! I have nested quickQuestions that lead into sub-branching events in Secret Forest Walk if you want an example
Well, not specifically nested questions, but I use switchEvent to move to a sub-event for the branches
tardy adder
How to make sprinklers temporarily cannot place 
blissful plover
Ok , so I loaded a test save, with only the shed mod, CJB Cheats and Item Spawner and Instant building. I got an upgraded shed. Nothing. when I open my menu and go to the controller tab, and scroll down, there's NO option to configure mods.
I show no errors, red or yellow.
any ideas?
rancid temple
Did you install GMCM?
blissful plover
haha.. no.
anything else I should install? haha.. as you can tell this is all new.
rancid temple
Mmm, my test list usually includes Fast Animations and Skip Intro but they aren't necessary, just gotta make sure Console Commands is still in there as well
And CP if this is a CP mod
slender badger
https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Recommendations:_Playtesting_as_a_Modder has some useful mods for play-testing
calm nebula
Can we peer pressure you into playing the gamw
slender badger
Maybe, I am pretty susceptible to "ooh, this thing my friends are playing looks fun, I want to play it too" 😆
knotty phoenix
wait, modders are still allowed to play the game?
tender bloom
only when we're good
next plaza
Can we peer pressure you into playing the gamw
I dunno, peer pressuring you into modding again hasn't worked well 😛
Wait... aquarium...
calm nebula
I dunno, peer pressuring you into modding again hasn't worked well 😛
Eh, that isn't likely to ever work
blissful plover
Ok. Nothing. 😦
hard fern
Bad modders get put in the scope creep machine
next plaza
Eh, that isn't likely to ever work
You know what they always tell kids. "Give in to peer pressure!" Or something like that, right?
blissful plover
Is that Console Code?
next plaza
(Let's ignore I'm semi on a modding break myself)
next plaza
Is that Console Code?
Is what console code?
blissful plover
Mmm, my test list usually includes Fast Animations and Skip Intro but they aren'...
this post
calm nebula
(Let's ignore I'm semi on a modding break myself)
Hey, you're taking a well deserved break
rancid temple
ConsoleCommands is a mod that ships with SMAPI
blissful plover
I am trying to update a mod and I am new to this so, I am getting help.
oh.
where do I load that?
rancid temple
Along with SaveBackup
If you delete them, you'll have to reinstall SMAPI I think
I'm not sure if there's a better way to get them back lol
uncut viper
"everyone has console commands, it comes free with your smapi"
rancid temple
If you just moved your mods out of the Mods folder, just move ConsoleCommands and SaveBackup back, but like they don't matter for testing per se
ConsoleCommands is just nice if you want to avoid having things like CJB for whatever reason
Today in "why isn't this working" coordinates that are out of the possible screen view are pretty worthless
Unless your intention is to hide something where you'll never be able to see if it's working
wheat finch
Anyone recall what uses conditions formatted like "z winter"? I found a working mod that uses CP to create new quests but it uses those conditions not the more layman friendly "season winter" noted in CP's docs.
tender bloom
yes unless someone else has already 
tender bloom
(one of the horse storage mods used a chest out of sight iirc)
wheat finch
Didn't console commands get replaced with default cheats?
tender bloom
Anyone recall what uses conditions formatted like "z winter"? I found a working ...
events?
rancid temple
Ultimately, not having ConsoleCommands won't affect your mod working
wheat finch
Default On Cheats it looks like.
tender bloom
I don't think console commands went anywhere
rancid temple
Unless it's Lacey maybe? Because of the reflection lol
tender bloom
I definitely still have Console Commands
rancid temple
Not sure if that's still a thing at this point
uncut viper
console commands has not been replaced
velvet narwhal
i'm pretty sure ichor hasn't committed that much of a crime
hard fern
where is console commands going
wheat finch
Oh I had it confused with chat commands
blissful plover
OK I moved it.
rancid temple
Well, I know for sure ichor had I don't know if it's still being committed though
wheat finch
Sorry my bad.
calm nebula
can you put a chest at -1,-1 then
Why would you though
With mumble global inventory right there
blissful plover
ConsoleCommands is not in the mod folder. Its in the Stardew Valley Folder where the MODS folder is.
rancid temple
Oh yeah, it doesn't go in your mods folder, it's a mod for SDV
It goes in SMAPI's Mods folder
blissful plover
Ok
rancid temple
Just like all the other mods I suggested
devout otter
Yay NightTiles works. \o/
calm nebula
i just keep thinking about horse overhaul ok
Yeah y'all no longer need to be so hackish lol
hard fern
is yall's console commands not in your mods folder?
blissful plover
I'm confused. It was in my Stardew Valley Folder, then in that folder was Mods, stardrop installed mods. etc.
rancid temple
I don't really know what to tell you about Stardrop, I don't use mod managers
If you're using Stardrop to test with, you need to figure out how you're supposed to have everything set up, because it's gonna be different from just slapping shit into your Mods folder afaik
brittle pasture
stardrop should be identical
devout otter
I'm confused. It was in my Stardew Valley Folder, then in that folder was Mods, ...
Inside the Stardrop Installed Mods folder should be mods managed by Stardrop.
blissful plover
I"m not I am loading with team
devout otter
Any mods outside of that folder would not be managed by Stardrop and would always load.
rancid temple
With just Steam or did you set it up to launch SMAPI?
brittle pasture
Any mods outside of that folder would not be managed by Stardrop and would alway...
not true actually, it manages every mod
rancid temple
brittle pasture
the folder thing is just a convention one that you can totally disable by just setting the "Stardrop installed mods" folder to be the same as the mod root
blissful plover
If Its the same, I get conflicts that say I have the mod installed twice and I need to remove one. I can have mods in both folders, but not the same mods.
brittle pasture
yes, that's how it works
blissful plover
I can load the game via Stardrop, and it will load only selected mods. or steam, or smapi, both will load all mods in the mods folder.
devout otter
the folder thing is just a convention one that you can totally disable by just s...
Aa I see. I guess I assumed that because Stardrop doesn't detect Console Commands and Save Backup.
blissful plover
But, I am trying to get this particular mod to load. No errors, no conflicts, just nothing happens.
velvet narwhal
i'm kind of lost in the context here, you're not necessarily supposed to see anything about console commands
if you type into smapi something like, debug warp farmhouse does it do it?
blissful plover
yes.
velvet narwhal
ok then it's working
brittle pasture
yeah Stardrop specifically hides Console Commands and Save Backup by default
velvet narwhal
you are now free to utilize https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Console_commands
rancid temple
It's not Console Commands they're having trouble with
brittle pasture
if they show up in logs, they are working
hard fern
🤔 how do i go about making a dummy npc (aka one who only shows up in events)
blissful plover
So, the mod shows up in my log, and says it loads just fine, LOG:
19:10:40 INFO SMAPI SMAPI 4.1.7 with Stardew Valley 1.6.14 build 24317 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home
19:10:40 INFO SMAPI Mods go here: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Stardew Valley\Mods
19:10:44 DEBUG SMAPI Waiting for game to launch...
19:10:46 DEBUG SMAPI Loading mod metadata...
19:10:46 DEBUG SMAPI Loading mods...
19:10:47 INFO SMAPI Loaded 5 mods: This section is hidden. Click here to show it.
19:10:47 INFO SMAPI Loaded 1 content packs: This section is shown. Click here to hide it.
19:10:47 INFO SMAPI (CP) Zyr's Immersive Multipurpose Shed 1.6.1 by Zyrnathos | for Content Patcher | Redesigns the shed to be more useful and, hopefully, visually pleasing. Immersive Version - Big Shed Only!
19:10:47 INFO SMAPI Patched game code
19:10:47 INFO SMAPI --------------------------------------------------
19:10:47 INFO SMAPI These mods directly change the game code. They're more likely to cause errors or bugs in-game; if
19:10:47 INFO SMAPI your game has issues, try removing these first. Otherwise you can ignore this warning.
19:10:47 INFO SMAPI - GMCM Options
19:10:47 DEBUG SMAPI Launching mods...
19:10:47 DEBUG SMAPI Mods loaded and ready!
19:10:49 INFO SMAPI Type 'help' for help, or 'help <cmd>' for a command's usage
Its the Zyr's mod I am trying to get to work.
uncut viper
!log please use this
ocean sailBOT
blissful plover
It just doesn't do a thing
uncut viper
type patch summary in the console and then upload the resulting log
blissful plover
ocean sailBOT
Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.7 with SDV 1.6.14 build 24317 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 5 C# mods and 1 content packs.
uncut viper
you havent typed patch summary
blissful plover
I did type Patch summary. what do I do with it? its long
uncut viper
upload the log to that site like you just did
ocean sailBOT
Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.7 with SDV 1.6.14 build 24317 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 5 C# mods and 1 content packs.
uncut viper
ok, minor correction on my part: do that again but when you're in game and the save is loaded
(also in case anyone else ever asks you for one in the future, just know that they will also expect the command to be run when the save is loaded too, since thats when most of content patcher's tokens are ready. cant know what the location is before you're in a location, for example)
tiny zealot
Anyone recall what uses conditions formatted like "z winter"? I found a working ...
i think expanded preconditions utility used conditions like this, mimicking the (old) event precondition style
blissful plover
ocean sailBOT
Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.7 with SDV 1.6.14 build 24317 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 5 C# mods and 1 content packs.
blissful plover
Button, ok
wheat finch
Boo. The base quest data in the game is slash delimited string (is that what it's called?) that doesn't allow for non-gold rewards like friendship or items. At least not that I can decipher. Nor does it allow for triggering a letter afterward. I realized that the mod I thought was editing Data/Quests was actually editing Data/Events. Sigh.
uncut viper
have you made any other edits to this mod besides removing the extra map layers dependency?
wheat finch
I'll have to see if I can trigger the letters with HasQuest or something and attach the rewards to that. Unless Pathos swoops in and tells me that quests have been changed in the back end so I can use fields like game state queries for conditions and such.
brittle ledge
cosplaywrite, I think Pride in the Valley adds some quests, could check their code?
tiny zealot
Boo. The base quest data in the game is slash delimited string (is that what it'...
quests are limited like that, but you can have your quest's completion conditions trigger an event, and in the event you can complete the quest via event command, and also do whatever else you need with action
uncut viper
you can if your quest completion involves giving someone something too, you can put the action directly in the quest data as part of their reaction dialogue
(also yes its a slash delimited string)
tiny zealot
ooh, good point from button
tiny zealot
Unless it's Lacey maybe? Because of the reflection lol
while i'm here, which of my crimes are we talking about in this case? 😅
rancid temple
Lacey's ConsoleCommands reflection
uncut viper
while i'm here, which of my crimes are we talking about in this case? 😅
what happens with lacey's console command if consolecommands is not installed
wheat finch
Button saving the day lol. My third quest in the string is supposed to give the player the void ghost pendant. Afterward the player is supposed to get a letter from the wizard and a friendship boost with him.
rancid temple
But yeah, I would like to know if Lacey just explodes if someone removes ConsoleCommands
blissful plover
I changed the Format to 2.4.0
tiny zealot
what happens with lacey's console command if consolecommands is not installed
oh, okay, yeah. i did not consider that case whatsoever, since i consider it a broken installation. i guess i could find out
calm nebula
(Nothing)
blissful plover
And, on the posts on the mod page, it says to remove the dependency for extra map layers. It show how to do that on his page. Also gives permission to use and upgrade this mod.
calm nebula
Console commands just adds. Bunch of console commands
The system itself is on smapi
And the command lacey calls is in CP
Now
rancid temple
Ah
calm nebula
If Pathos were to rename the command
blissful plover
Are we running out of ideas for this mod?
tiny zealot
i also call one of my own, to be fair, which is part of why i use the queuing setup
uncut viper
im not actually sure why theres a bunch of HasFlag:HostPlayer things its complaining about, because i dont see any such tokens when i downloaded the mod
velvet narwhal
https://smapi.io/log/f143cce9bf004c06a99bb14e646833a4 honestly there's probably bare minimal that would need to be edited
ocean sailBOT
Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.7 with SDV 1.6.14 build 24317 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 3 C# mods and 1 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them
blissful plover
https://smapi.io/log/f143cce9bf004c06a99bb14e646833a4 honestly there's probably ...
I don't really know how to edit. I was learning .. 🙂 I don't see anything wrong.
velvet narwhal
i am lost then, what was the initial problem?
blissful plover
im not actually sure why theres a bunch of HasFlag:HostPlayer things its complai...
I have no idea
The initial problem is that I get no errors or warnings but it does nothing.
velvet narwhal
wdym does nothing, It Just Works ™️
this is not what the shed looks like base game
uncut viper
oh i see, i downloaded the non-immersive version
velvet narwhal
oh i see, i downloaded the non-immersive version
yeah i think we both did
blissful plover
I mean I enable it, I go to my bigger shed and it still the same.
OOOOOHHH maybe I need to do that.
velvet narwhal
if you get annoyed with the "update this"
just open up the mod's manifest and set it to version 1.6.1
uncut viper
you have the immersive version
rancid temple
Did you enable it before building it?
wheat finch
My brain is broken. Gonna step away from it for the night.
uncut viper
which means i must ask, have you completed the requirements that the immersive version sets for it to unlock the bigger shed?
lucid mulch
just open up the mod's manifest and set it to version 1.6.1
(if its currently 1.6 (or 1.6.0) setting it to 1.6.1-unofficial-<your-name> will make your version newer, but if an actual 1.6.1 comes out it will correctly warn again)
brave fable
do you need to use the[Emily_Name] [Emily_Objective_0_Text] format for special order strings in custom entries?
velvet narwhal
(if its currently 1.6 (or 1.6.0) setting it to `1.6.1-unofficial-<your-name>` wi...
there is an actual 1.6.1 and that's the immersive one that we were talking about, oh, so just bump it up to 1.6.2
lucid mulch
special orders feels like a thing that will bake into the save file, so probably
blissful plover
Ok I thnk thats what happened. I updated it to the new version and it was the immersive one.
lucid mulch
is this SpecialOrder Objectives?
brave fable
every localised string in data/specialorders entries
uncut viper
special orders seem to manually strip away the [ and ] and just load the rest as a translation key from Strings\SpecialOrderStrings
brave fable
i can't use localisedtext or i18n instead of patching into specialorderstrings?
uncut viper
theres a Tokenizable String parser for it but apparently thats just not used lol
you might be able to just give it a string
blissful plover
that did it.
brave fable
why do i always run into the worst patterns 
blissful plover
it works now.
uncut viper
i think if it doesnt find a [ with a matching ] in it, it'll just return whatever is there
blissful plover
Oh thank you everyone. I am so happy to ahve this working. I love this mod. I dont know why but I just do.
uncut viper
glad its all good now!
blissful plover
uncut viper
(that said blueberry you cant use localizedtext tho bc it doesnt run it through a token parser)
CP i18n token should be fine though but it wont update again after
the relevant code is in SpecialOrder.MakeLocalizationReplacements which is used for SpecialOrder.GetName()
which uses its questName value, which is set to whatever is in your Special order data
though i forgor you asked about more than just the name
tardy adder
Hmm I'll figure if sprinklers can be with mistyspring.ItemExtensions_OnBeingHeld trigger
lucid mulch
ok yeah just took a peek, yeah thats getting baked into the save big time
uncut viper
the same MakeLocalizationReplacements is used for its general Parse method tho so maybe its fine idk
tardy adder
Will soon send for help, dis making me lose sanity
cinder goblet
velvet narwhal
the trenchcoat? when he goes to the movies with you
oh wait not those
the world* sprites? or his portraits?
cinder goblet
~~the world* sprites? or his portraits?~~
World
velvet narwhal
i know SVE uses it for one of his heart events he do a little jiggy
lucid mulch
the square brackets stuff are used to reference Strings\\SpecialOrderStrings:<Whatever> but you can just use i18n when editing that strings asset
velvet narwhal
considering i can't read anymore i think that means it's time for me to go to bed 
brave fable
i feel so lost without having played any of this new stuff, i can't even find where the unique special orders are added
like sure the normal ones are at the board but qi challenges and d. festival orders don't even show up in the data files
hard fern
Same
brave fable
oooh there's a qi qallenge board
maybe i can just set one from dialogue or something
rancid temple
Guess you'll have to play, you know for research purposes
brave fable
lol no
lucid mulch
its in Data/SpecialOrders for me...
brave fable
when i say add i mean to the player's quest log
yes they're in their own data file haha
lucid mulch
special orders like that show up in FarmerTeam.specialOrders not the quest list
as farmhands share the same special order instance
brave fable
aren't special orders shown on your quest log?
lucid mulch
the quest log shows both FarmerTeam.specialOrders and personal quest list
/// <summary>Get the quests which should be shown in the quest log.</summary>
protected virtual IList<IQuest> GetAllQuests()
{
List<IQuest> quests = new List<IQuest>();
for (int j = Game1.player.team.specialOrders.Count - 1; j >= 0; j--)
{
SpecialOrder order = Game1.player.team.specialOrders[j];
if (!order.IsHidden())
{
quests.Add(order);
}
}
for (int i = Game1.player.questLog.Count - 1; i >= 0; i--)
{
Quest quest = Game1.player.questLog[i];
if (quest == null || quest.destroy.Value)
{
Game1.player.questLog.RemoveAt(i);
}
else if (!quest.IsHidden())
{
quests.Add(quest);
}
}
return quests;
}
i think ive confused us both. i was just wondering where in the game you happen to be given (in gameplay) unique special orders lol
lucid mulch
events, trigger actions, etc can just start special orders
brave fable
but dw, ive found it
lucid mulch
including the special order boards
there is the AddSpecialOrder <order ID> trigger action, so anywhere that can trigger actions (like dialogue's $action, events action, mails %action, along with the triggers themselves)
uncut viper
buffs and museum rewards actions my beloved (ive never used them)
brittle pasture
(mail can also do %item specialOrder)
uncut viper
shops is another big one tho dont forget that
lucid mulch
gotta love the addition of trigger actions to cause duplicate paths in various ancient engines
brittle pasture
(which I think is necessary for the fancy accept button to show up)
(the trigger action just adds it silently)
lucid mulch
ah yeah that would be true
cinder goblet
How would I mod SVE? just some contentpatcher stuff.
wheat finch
That way lies madness. But generally yes CP.
rancid temple
It's similar to modding the base game, your targets just have to be the ones SVE creates and you generally should set your mod as dependent on SVE so it's load order is correct
I would look for a mod that edits something from SVE to find an example of it being done
normal latch
Okay so seeing as I'm genuinely considering doing this, I come with a question
I'm already looking at the wiki for unpacking .xnb files, but I'm mostly just wanting to know what file would have the graphics for the grass/path tiles that are all throughout the valley
I ask this cause I noticed that 1.6 had added in new tiles, and as those aren't in Eemie's Map Recolor ((the one uploaded on ModDrop)), and the person who uploaded the mod is AFK forever, I thought "Hey, I can recolor things, it'd be supposedly easy"
But a bit of guidance wouldn't hurt, I'd think
rancid temple
Once you've unpacked, they'll be in Maps, as for which ones they are the easiest way is to use Tiled and open the offending map and see what tilesheet is being used there
rancid temple
!tiled is this the command
ocean sailBOT
rancid temple
Hey hey
normal latch
I see I see
rancid temple
It's a map editor, basically
normal latch
...okay ngl, for someone like me, this is all a little more complicated than I thought
slender badger
Basically all you need to do is compare the files in Eemie's mod with the unpacked vanilla files
Hit enter too early lol, one sec
And see which parts are missing. Pretty much all of the 1.6 files are in separate files, but Eemie's was never updated for 1.5 either, I think, so you'll have a bit more to do there. Once you've found anything missing, you just recolour the missing textures and delete everything that you're not recolouring so that it's a transparent file with only the recoloured bits
For the coding, it's just a simple EditImage code probably with an overlay. You can check the code for more recently updated recolour mods to see how they do the same thing, but the basic concept is also explained in the Content Patcher documentation
normal latch
hhhh, the coding part I may need help with
I'm not exactly super confident when it comes to doing that part myself
slender badger
That's fine, you can give it a shot and ask for help in here
normal latch
And see which parts are missing. Pretty much all of the 1.6 files are in separat...
But for the recoloring part, it'd be as simple as:
- Using StardewXnbHack to unpack the files and getting into the Maps files
- Compare the files there with the ones in Eemie's Map Recolors
- Recolor the textures that EMR doesn't have, saving the changes once made and getting rid of what's not needed
normal latch
That's fine, you can give it a shot and ask for help in here
and honestly yeah I think that'd be what I'll do
I'm mostly just wanting to make sure I understand what's needed for the recoloring part of this
Haha sweet, I understood correctly
normal latch
Well so far, at least without going to Calico Desert, I have an idea of what would need recoloring around the valley"
Grass tiles, specifically in the lighter grass and grass around paths
Ground around water
Some trees, like the Mahogany ones
Possibly the big trees in Cindersap Forest
shut grove
can I/how do I add conditional recipes? like, one version of a recipe for vanilla one for when someone has SVE installed for example?
This is my cooking recipes for example, but I'd want to add butter to these 2 if the player has SVE since SVE adds their own butter.
"Changes": [
{
"LogName": "Recipes",
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/CookingRecipes",
"Entries": {
"{{ModID}}_Cooking_GarlicBread": "216 1 248 1/4 2/{{ModID}}_GarlicBread/f {{ModID}}_Marie 3/{{i18n: food.GarlicBread}}", //Bread Garlic
"{{ModID}}_Cooking_CheesyGarlicBread": "216 1 248 1 424 1/4 2/{{ModID}}_CheesyGarlicBread/f {{ModID}}_Marie 3/{{i18n: food.CheesyGarlicBread}}", //Bread Garlic Cheese
}
},
],
}```I know how to do it for map patches
just not for something like this
uncut viper
you can do another patch after yours that edits the entries you just added, but with a HasMod token When condition on it
tiny zealot
principle is the same: use When conditions to make different edits depending on whether SVE is installed
shut grove
so, like this?
{
"Changes": [
{
"LogName": "Recipes",
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/CookingRecipes",
"Entries": {
"{{ModID}}_Cooking_GarlicBread": "216 1 248 1/4 2/{{ModID}}_GarlicBread/f {{ModID}}_Marie 3/{{i18n: food.GarlicBread}}", //Bread Garlic
"{{ModID}}_Cooking_CheesyGarlicBread": "216 1 248 1 424 1/4 2/{{ModID}}_CheesyGarlicBread/f {{ModID}}_Marie 3/{{i18n: food.CheesyGarlicBread}}", //Bread Garlic Cheese
}
"When": {
"HasMod|contains=FlashShifter.StardewValleyExpandedCP": false
},
},
],
}```and then just have a second section with it being true
rancid temple
You don't even need to track the false
The first one can just be normal and the one after can be true and it'll overwrite the first
If it helps you keep track of it easier though, that will work
brave fable
ah yes, setting a tool to giftable means spacecore crashes instantly since it expects all giftable items to be objects
[SpaceCore] Exception while handling event SpaceEvents.BeforeReceiveObject:
System.NullReferenceException: Object reference not set to an instance of an object.
at SpaceCore.VanillaAssetExpansion.VanillaAssetExpansion.SpaceEvents_BeforeGiftGiven(Object sender, EventArgsBeforeReceiveObject e) in C:\Users\space\Programming\StardewValley\StardewValleyMods\SpaceCore\VanillaAssetExpansion\VanillaAssetExpansion.cs:line 154
at SpaceShared.Util.InvokeEventCancelable[T](String name, IEnumerable`1 handlers, Object sender, T args) in C:\Users\space\Programming\StardewValley\StardewValleyMods\SpaceShared\Util.cs:line 250
brave fable
in my defence, canBeGivenAsGift is Item virtual
next plaza
But... It's NPC.tryToReceiveActiveObject
I'm surprised the game doesn't have problems
brave fable
ocean sailBOT
Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.7 with SDV 1.6.14 build 24317 on Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, with 26 C# mods and 5 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them
brave fable
ignore the spacecore serialisation error, there's objects in the save that i no longer serialise
next plaza
Ah, vanilla just returns without doing anything with if it isn't an object
next plaza
ignore the spacecore serialisation error, there's objects in the save that i no ...
That... doesn't look like a good error. Especially considering that it should be ignoring types not serialized anymore
Instead of failing and removing all serialized mod types to still load
brave fable
i wanted to use it as a trade-in item for a special order through a wonderful setup of event > add item + add special order, use item on world > get context tag, give item with context tag > fulfil special order delivery, receive original item
pls it's only a warning, noone reads those
next plaza
I don't understand why you need a tool to be giftable still 😛
brave fable
well i could just pile the on-click-world behaviours into an extension of object but i figured it was worth trying tool
now i hate tool though
next plaza
It's sad you spent so much time working on tools and it turns out it was all for nothing
brave fable
also ideally i didnt want the item to be giftable anyway but it has to be to turn in a special order lol
such is life
anyway i need tool knowledge for secret scissors
or maybe i dont, that could also be a terrible idea, but i drew a sprite so it's worth a shot
rancid musk
This makes me think of the "A developer walks into a bar and orders a beer. Orders 999 beers. Orders -1 beer. Orders null. A customer walks into the bar and asks where the bathroom is. The bar catches fire." or however the original goes
brittle pasture
patch right click to transform the tool into an object clone upon right clicking a villager
uncut viper
can you just secretly replace the tool with an object when the player goes to right click
brave fable
hmmm i think this is more 'why did you push a commit that prevents the spacebar from heating up? i was using that to brew tea'
next plaza
Prevents the spacebar from heating up, or using the spacebar to heat your desktop?
brave fable
can you just secretly replace the tool with an object when the player goes to ri...
that sounds like it'd fall under the purview of the currently-crashing SpaceEvents.BeforeGiftGiven event lol
next plaza
Very important information for future tea brewers
fiery cobalt
brave fable
debugging is so much simpler when u can just bury ur face in a bouquet of flowers at ur own desk
i can just hide from the bugs. like another, larger bug
next plaza
Until you find bugs in the bouquet
brave fable
it's a feature 
augh moving to object means i cant use the wonderful ClassName field that tools get. what a world
brave fable
oh it should be fine, just needs a new itemdatadefinition thing
just another step in the wrong direction lol
brave fable
well it is, but if you want a custom type object you've gotta make a custom type object
it gets better, it's a temp item used for one special order lol
next plaza
Yeah... for the S&S bow I think I just patched item registry to return the custom item class for the given item ID
brave fable
oh right, a new bow. now that's a thought
next plaza
Sorta like it already does for slingshot
brave fable
more tools
is there any helper method for what used to be getSourceRectForStandardSpriteSheet before it was removed in 1.6?
it's like 5 times now i've wanted to get a source rect from a sprite index
Utility.getSourceRectWithinRectangularRegion?
next plaza
I'm not sure offhand, but if you've got the item object you can just use ItemRegistry.GetDataOrErrorItem(qualId).GetSourceRect()
next plaza
Ah, so you are going that route
brave fable
the famous subclass pagliacci is in town
next plaza
I don't know what a pagliacci is
It looks like Object at least uses Game1.getSourceRectForStandardTileSheet
(Or rather ObjectDataDefinition)
brave fable
oh, the original is grimaldi. nonetheless
spiral blaze
so I'm trying to redo all character portraits but I'm struggling to view the originals as they're all .xnb files and I'm not sure how to open them? Sorry if this is a silly question, I've never done this before
I'm wanting to view all of the characters like this
So that I know I'm getting the portraits the right order etc
uncut viper
!unpack
ocean sailBOT
spiral blaze
ohhh thank you ❤️
I really appreciate how patient you all are ❤️ thanks @uncut viper !
fossil osprey
*muffled sobbing as I realise there are 100 items in the vanilla folder to redra...
I feel you, I had wanted to make a cartoon texture pack for the game, but I quickly abandoned when seeing how much work that meant D:
woeful lintel
I think that's the reason most anime portraits mods are unmaintained, or only cover bachelors
spiral blaze
I think that's the reason most anime portraits mods are unmaintained, or only co...
So I adore Rin's Portraits for the bachelors but it upsets me a lot that they only did the bach, so I'm sloooooooowly going to do them all myself. Maybe upload them maybe not idk. Depends how awful they end up looking
fossil osprey
So I *adore* Rin's Portraits for the bachelors but it upsets me a lot that they ...
Remember to ask the original mod author for permission if you want to upload an update with every villager
robust robin
Does anyone know how to rename flavored items? I can get the parent item to work but all the flavors just show the original name with the parent description. For example, I'm pretty sure preserve_sheet_index_613 is Apple Wine, but I don't know what the target for the action would be or how to list the change for each name. For the parent item, "Wine_Name": "New Name" under entries for Strings/Objects worked but that doesn't seem to be the case for the rest of the flavored items????? I need help (also please reply to this thread so I can find your response later bc I have to sleep; thanks so much)
hallow prism
can you elaborate more about the context?
you want to make what? a custom flavored item like apple cider pear cider and so on? Use vanilla flavored items? else?
woeful lintel
So I *adore* Rin's Portraits for the bachelors but it upsets me a lot that they ...
I personnaly don't like HD portraits, so I use a mix of different Anime Portraits mods I made for myself
damn... Seasonal Outfits mod is in the forever hidden jail
hollow hinge
i just make my own portraits but coding them is sometimes an issue
woeful lintel
myself and a lot of people here should be able to help with that if you want.
If you want to try to learn how to do it yourself, you can start by taking a look at that:
!CP
ocean sailBOT
tardy adder
Alright time to see if my trigger actions are triggering
hollow hinge
If you want to try to learn how to do it yourself, you can start by taking a loo...
tysm ill definately look into it!
calm nebula
Goooooood morning (not)
woeful lintel
21:34
calm nebula
Well I hope you guys are having a great morning
Or evening
Or middle of thr afternoon break
hollow hinge
good tidings!
rancid temple
I spilled hot chocolate on myself 
so y'know
calm nebula
Running on two hours of sleep because fuck insomnia:P
rancid temple
Oof
foggy kiln
Someone knows a mod similar to the shopping cart mod? This mod stopped working after the 1.6 update, and I've been looking for a replacement.
rancid temple
#modded-stardew is a better place to ask
foggy kiln
Oh, thank you for the reminder!
silver pelican
where can i find the fire animation for the fireplace?
woeful lintel
I'm curious, why do you need them?
rancid temple
Near the bottom
brave fable
ah, i remember the nighttime event where dusty witnesses the witch firebombing your farm. hard to believe it's in the base game
rancid temple
A masterpiece of cinema though
silver sand
ok but event like that would go HARD
silver pelican
I'm curious, why do you need them?
i kinda want to make the fireplace work 🥲
silver pelican
Near the bottom
thank u!
woeful lintel
It doesn't work?
rancid temple
Like furniture or map?
silver pelican
in a custom map xd i opened saloon and pierre's to see how it goes but couldnt find how it works or displays the fire animation.
rancid temple
Those are set in code
silver pelican
rancid temple
I did make a mod that lets you add interactable fireplaces
Otherwise you can do conditional map patches to add animated tiles
silver pelican
reallyyy? where is ittt 
rancid temple
silver pelican
yipieee
rancid temple
Oh right, I still need to remove the beta stuff from this page lmao, it's all the same I just never changed it after the beta was over
silver pelican
Detailed guide as well. I'll try it out
rancid temple
Lemme know if you have any problems, I'm still not confident in the guides I write lmao
patent lanceBOT
me to finish patching up my npc : pensive (12h ago) [Requested by forsythia]
silver pelican
Lemme know if you have any problems, I'm still not confident in the guides I wri...
yaaaayyy! 
thank youu! ill do the other ones now. 
dusky charm
could anyone please explain to me how i can prevent a tile from having the tillable property when making a custom farm map? thanks
lucid iron
Need to remove Diggable tile property
dusky charm
yea but how lol
rancid temple
Most likely, by editing the tileset, selecting the tile and deleting the property
I'm assuming you're working in Tiled
dusky charm
ill check it out thx
rancid temple
Ugh, I thought my math for my stardrop mod was messed up again but I disabled it and my health values still seem way out of wack
I don't think I should have over 300 health at combat level 7 lmao
fervent horizon
Is there a way to change the skin of an animal based on the name it is given?
like a "when" trigger
rancid temple
Huh cool Nexus, I only have one mod apparently and I can't find any of the others by searching
lucid iron
Is there a way to change the skin of an animal based on the name it is given?
Need c# most likely
fervent horizon
yeah, I was hoping to avoid that
lucid iron
Huh cool Nexus, I only have one mod apparently and I can't find any of the other...
Nice I have 0 mods now 
rancid temple
We've been set free by Nexus
And then a notification about some stupid event, like no fix your dumb site first
rancid temple
Assuming that part of the site is working
tiny zealot
You can turn that off
you can?!
rancid temple
Lmao, I refreshed the main page and half the new mods for the day disappeared
rancid temple
It's probably still my mod, last time my math was broken I fixed it with the built in max health validation because my math was giving too low values, but the health validation only checks if max health is lower than expected and not higher lmao
rancid musk
Fun, I got another use comment asking me to update a mod that is already updated
tiny zealot
Yeah the notif config is pretty detailed
but clicking a toggle seems to work only about... half the time? (but it says "your changes were successfully saved" every time, and sometimes ones you previously set move themselves back. good job, everyone, high fives all around)
lucid iron
but clicking a toggle seems to work only about... half the time? (but it says "y...
Yeah I poked it until it stopped doing that 
Leaving page when I toggle 1 thing seems to help
tiny zealot
other notes for next.nexus.com: when you are on a user's profile and you click to change tabs (e.g. "Mods"), there is no reaction whatsoever until the server response comes back, which can take multiple seconds. urgh
velvet narwhal
other notes for next.nexus.com: when you are on a user's profile and you click t...
Oh it wasn't just me I was wondering why it's been so unresponsive
tiny zealot
saw this in a log from a Windows user (1.6.14/4.1.7):
[21:17:11 TRACE SMAPI] Rewrote HatMouseLacey.dll to fix ArgUtility.TryGet method, ArgUtility.TryGetInt method, ArgUtility.TryGetOptionalBool method...
[21:17:11 TRACE SMAPI] Rewrote HatMouseLacey.dll to fix LocalizedContentManager.LoadStringReturnNullIfNotFound (added missing optional parameters)...```
i do not get these rewrite logs in my linux game. do these methods have platform-specific differences and/or should i be concerned about them?Those should definitely also happen in Linux
lucid iron
Is that the new string optional arg
rancid musk
(am I going to have to decomp the other os builds now)
The ArgUtility stuff is the ArgumentCaller stuff
So it can make slightly nicer error logs
tiny zealot
i would love to fix it but i had no idea it was happening
brittle ledge
Ichor, I'm windows, I could check if I can reproduce the issue when I'm home if you want?
tiny zealot
if you really want to, but it's not necessary
lucid iron
Is your lacey a build from source
tiny zealot
doesn't seem to be broken, and i'll get an updated decompile and sort out whatever i'm missing when i get to it
lucid iron
Instead of whatever version you put on nexus
tiny zealot
Is your lacey a build from source
yeah i've only ever installed from nexus once, when i thought a file might have been corrupted. i just leave my builds in place as i do them
(that makes for a fun time when i see "update available" for my own mods 
)
lucid iron
Yeah why does nexus show that
tiny zealot
i have a lot of questions about how nexus works /lh
ocean sailBOT
Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.7 with SDV 1.6.14 build 24317 on Unix 6.11.5.1, with 35 C# mods and 14 content packs.
rancid musk
Yeah, once you build against an updated Stardew then it's no longer an issue
lucid iron
really nice that you dont have to though, thank u rewriter-san
jolly bane
does anyone happen to know how I would put fish swimming around in a tank in a custom map I made for an event? so the fish already need to be there without me placing them in a tank as the farmer, thank you!
rancid temple
Unless someone has made a framework for it, that would require C#
brittle ledge
Or you could just do a temp actor, though you'd have to move/animate it yourself.
brittle ledge
I don't think you could grab them directly, you'd have to make a fake spritesheet basically
rancid temple
Ah okay, at least you could trim down the sheet and only include what you need then
mild gust
Hi guys ^^
Okay . I love stardew very much . And ive heard its pretty easy go mod .
*to
Sooo Like How can i begin ? I have zero idea about making mods 💀
ocean sailBOT
tiny zealot
what kind of mod are you thinking of making?
patent lanceBOT
@astral prism: axon bodycam overlay (18h ago)
hard fern
do i dare test my npc now, or do other things instead hmm
calm nebula
Remind me in 12 days to look at asset prop and additional farms
patent lanceBOT
fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiine (#6362005) (12d | <t:1732645468>)
robust robin
you want to make what? a custom flavored item like apple cider pear cider and so...
I'm just trying to rename the wine to juice/cider
brittle pasture
The names for the flavored wines live elsewhere outside of strings/objects IIRC
looking them up rn
Huh actually 1.6.9 should have put all of them into Strings/Objects
Did you also change Wine_Flavored_Name (+ all the fruit-specific wine names)
calm nebula
Look at Cranberry Wine
shut grove
is it possible to make events require, say 3 hearts with 3 different people?
hard fern
im pretty sure it is? 🤔
shut grove
didn't know if the requirements section had a limit on that
hard fern
well
inner harbor
is it possible to make events require, say 3 hearts with 3 different people?
Yes, the dating everyone events do this
hard fern
there's a bunch of different requiremens u can stick on there too
robust robin
Did you also change Wine_Flavored_Name (+ all the fruit-specific wine names)
What would that look like? Would it be something like "Wine_Flavored_Name (CranberryWine)":
brittle pasture
did you unpack the files
looking at the unpacked Strings/Objects should be self explanatory
lucid iron
anyone seen spacecore anim go 2x fast with split screen before
no split screen for compare
rancid temple
Warp speed
brittle pasture
hmm would it go 3x as fast with 3 players
maybe both clients are updating the frames causing them to stack lol
robust robin
looking at the unpacked Strings/Objects should be self explanatory
Oh I found it thanks
faint junco
Good morning all.
With CP is it posable to add conditional recipes based on mods installed (ie if vanilla use X recipe else if hasMod use Y recipe)?
I found the "HasMod" token but the only example I can find just load a different asset with a different recipe.
rancid temple
When is a field used to indicate conditions for a patch block to be applied
So if you have a HasMod in a When for an EditData that adds a recipe, if the conditions are met, that patch block will be applied
If you want a recipe that's one way with just your mod but changes with another mod installed, create one patch block that adds your base recipe and then after that create another patch block that edits that same recipe but with a When to check for the other mod
This has come up a few times lately, I wonder if I should make a 5th example for crafting/cooking recipes lmao
lucid iron
are there mods that change where the obelisk warp targets are
faint junco
im guessing I can't just add the when to recipe like for example the "UpgradeFrom" block
rancid temple
No, recipes don't have any fields for conditionality like that
lucid iron
you could give the recipe in a trigger action
rancid temple
Kind of a separate thing from creating the recipe in the first place
lucid iron
ah right 
rancid temple
I hate refactoring code 
rancid temple
Why couldn't I just write it correctly the first time, what's wrong with me
Unfortunately Nexus came back up so I guess I will soldier on
lucid iron
i think it is a sign of improvement to look at old code and definitively say "wow thats bad"
rancid temple
Can't wait to do it again in a couple months 
runic rose
Hi all! I'm new to modding and need some help troubleshooting a simple content pack I made. I'm just trying to replace the red mushroom icon with one I made. The content.json looks right, checked it with a json checker. smapi says it's loading my mod, but nothings happening in game. Thoughts?
rancid temple
!json share the link, the validator only checks syntax it doesn't know if the code is correct or not
ocean sailBOT
rancid temple
I wonder if this command has too much general information
It's typically used to try to get people to share their jsons but that is like less than a third of this commands actual function
tender bloom
I do think we semi-regularly get people asking "what's a json and why do I need it?"
plus people going "how do you manage to get your braces to work??"
maybe it should be more than one command?
rancid temple
Yeah, I think the command is useful, just wondering if a more directed one would be better
uncut viper
if anything i think it should be used more when people ask what text editor to use
rancid temple
The log command is very direct about being used for troubleshooting, which is what got me thinking this one is too general lol
teal bridge
I do think we semi-regularly get people asking "what's a json and why do I need ...
To me that's a !startmodding question.
uncut viper
to me that seems like it's because people generally know what a "log" is when you ask for it, but people might not know what a "json" is when you ask, or may think it's Stardew specific
(emphasis on the word generally)
teal bridge
Agree it's better to link the json command to questions people actually ask, specifically uploading logs and choosing a sane editor. (Which is pretty much what it already is, except for the first line.)
uncut viper
Also feel free to interrupt any time mycena
runic rose
youre fine, im just uh...well im wondering what "share the link means" and was wondering if a screenshot of my code would suffice....
hard fern
Guess what
runic rose
(I'm sorry, im a complete newb haha)
uncut viper
when you upload your json to the site, copy the URL afterwards
you can paste that URL here so everyone can see what you uploaded
runic rose
okay, cool, can do
uncut viper
screenshots of code are very not recommended here
shut grove
question for clarification, can I use this to add friendship points to multiple npcs?
rancid temple
Yeah, generally speaking if you share a screenshot of code I'm not helping lmao
Or I'll help up until the code slips off screen and then I'm done because I'm not about to scroll up to find it 
shut grove
for example, if I did this would it add 1 heart to all 5?
"Type": "Friendship",
"Data": {
"TargetName": "Luna, Leon, Marie, Leah, Alex"
}
}```Aren't the rewards part of an array?
rancid temple
Hm, man the special order page is kind of badly formatted lol
shut grove
it is
teal bridge
I doubt that you can target multiple NPCs in one reward (don't know, but it certainly makes no suggestion that you can). Just set up multiple rewards, one per NPC.
runic rose
Ah, hang on, the number for the format version is completely wrong. Let me fix that and see if anything happens
I did say I was a newb, didn't I 😅
shut grove
I doubt that you can target multiple NPCs in one reward (don't know, but it cert...
k, I'll do that then
uncut viper
everyone's a newb to start
shut grove
I wanted the quest to reward some friendship with each npc who would appear in the event after you finish the special order
uncut viper
and if you got that info from the uploader site then you're already doing better than a lot of people who upload their json and then never read a single thing in it and just ask people to point out the errors for them
rancid temple
"Rewards": [
{
"Type": "Friendship",
"Data": {
"Amount": 100,
"TargetName": "Leah"
}
},
{
"Type": "Friendship",
"Data": {
"Amount": 100,
"TargetName": "Alex"
}
}
]
Honestly, might be easier to just reward the friendship through the event lmao
shut grove
maybe, idk lol
runic rose
thank you, button, I was a bit nervous about posting in here...i've been using reddit as a resource but this seems like it needs some real time feedback
that's the link, still got nothing from the game after fixing the format version
uncut viper
remove the ".png" from your "Target" line
i think thats the only thing wrong with it assuming your file name is c orrect and your coordinates are correct
but Target lines always take "asset names" not file names
which are generally the name of the asset in your unpacked folder but without the file extension
so you just want "Target": "Maps/springobjects"
runic rose
gotcha
uncut viper
your FromFile should have your file extension though
which it does, sodont remove it
rancid temple
For something small like this it won't matter, but I do wonder what is less expensive. Editing the image of Maps/springobjects or Loading a new sprite and editing the object itself to use that texture instead
runic rose
aha!! It worked!! the coordinates are definitley off, but it worked!
uncut viper
probably the latter. baby steps though, and technically this does have some benefit (if another mod reuses the same sprite, it will work there too)
uncut viper
just in case it helps with the coordinates remember you want the coordinate of the very top left of the thing you wanna replace
including any transparent space
rancid temple
X and Y start at 0
But most editing programs should be able to give you accurate coordinates
Being able to show a grid helps with finding the top left corner
runic rose
noted. my first goal was to get the mod working in game. next is to tweak the coordinates
Thank you guys! was this an okay thing to bring to this chat? or is there somewhere more appropriate for basic questions?
rancid temple
Nah, this is the place for making mods questions
There's an art channel for arting and writing, but coding questions should be in here
Runs the range of the simple CP stuff all the way up to the complicated C# mods lol
tender bloom
this is the perfect place to ask
and feel free to interrupt if people are off topic
uncut viper
(i will say tho dont be discouraged if you ask something else in this chat later and it seems like you were ignored, that reeally only happens if people are eithe distracted by a different topic and didnt notice, or dont know the answer and so might be around but cant help. people here are very willing to help usually!)
tender bloom
we're...not good at staying on topic
runic rose
cool! i'm trying to work my way up to some more complicated mods, so you will probably see me again soon
lol thats okay, thats how discord be
uncut viper
we're...not good at staying on topic
as evidenced by us immediately going to talk about the governor commands right after they asked for help
rancid temple
#making-mods-off-topic 
uncut viper
like atra i would change that from "feel free to interrupt" to "please interrupt, you'll be doing the whole channel a favour"
rancid temple
Added all the other buffs I left out before to my stardrops mod, now I have to figure out what effects some of them actually have lmao
tender bloom
like atra i would change that from "feel free to interrupt" to "_please_ interru...
it's me Elizabeth 😛 but yes that was what I meant to imply
uncut viper
i was referring to what atra said the other day
tender bloom
ah ok
uncut viper
in response to you
uncut viper
the name colour is hard to miss
uncut viper
almost everything > orange
rancid temple
I may be a little colorblind, but they don't seem that far apart
These particular shades anyways
uncut viper
they are when you like red and dont like orange like me
rancid temple
Lol
teal bridge
almost everything > orange
Everything except purple.
uncut viper
theres a reason purple is the colour of the toppest tier of chat roles in here
tender bloom
purple > blue > red > green > certain shades of yellow > orange > other shades of yellow
though teal is pretty good, maybe better than red
teal bridge
Correction, purple is the color of the toppiest tier of non-producing chat roles in here.
tender bloom
ranking colors is hard
rancid temple
Pink is more of a red color huh?
uncut viper
hm. thinking about chat name colours makes me wonder how possible it'd be to bridge this chat channel with in game stardew chat
i wanna be able to lurk in here while i play
how possible it'd be without a custom discord bot* i should say
rancid temple
Just get a third monitor
rancid temple
I can't imagine having three and not making one dedicated to Discord lol
uncut viper
one is dedicated to discord
what makes you think its dedicated to this channel though
rancid temple
Ah, that's fair lol
uncut viper
i like y'all but i dont like y'all that much /lh
lucid iron
Well just go bribe aquova
uncut viper
(i do have it open often but if im playin with someone its gonna be dedicated to the discord of the people im playing with)
lucid iron
Make governor stalk us on your behalf
uncut viper
hey now. if it was added to governor bot it could be for ALL of our behalfs. behalves.
teal bridge
What you need is a discord aggregator that spews out every message from every channel you're in into one giant feed, so you can follow all 200 messages per minute.
iron ridge
how possible it'd be without a custom discord bot* i should say
Now depending on the server's rules and your dislike for discord's, you may not need one.
This is not legal advice, please contact your nearest legal representative for advice.
lucid iron
Right yes socialism
uncut viper
yeah im not interested in getting my discord account banned for being a self bot
lucid iron
Say wasn't there a twitch sdv bot
uncut viper
sounds familiar
iron ridge
Believe so
long jungle
Hello again. I'd just like to ask if you guys can suggest any easy-to-understand guides on how to add Mod Config. to my Mod? I only need a simple Turn On/Off Toggle for some features.
It's a Content Patcher mod.
whole raptor
long jungle
<https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/aut...
Thanks a lot! I'll start reading now.
grand lantern
you have tons of fans cheering you on though ❤️
clever sinew
I know this is from days ago and you already sprited something, but for the record because I just saw it Emily the Mixologist allows players to buy specific juices (e.g. tomato juice instead of regular juice). So if anyone else is interested, I’d look in that mod’s code.
(Wanted to throw this in here before i forget, apologies for interruption)
brave fable
my suggestion would be to start with ForEachItem -> ForEachItemContext no reason, but it's a start
brittle pasture
we answered it. Tldr shops (or any place that uses item queries): yes, dialogue/mail: no
clever sinew
Ah okay. Missed that 😭. My apologies again.
brave fable
and ooohhhh new vs update previews show me so many features i haven't been using. where has Change Signature been all my life. how is Ctrl+T better than Ctrl+,
and mmMMMmMMMm display return values inline
mmmmmm copy from error dialogues and copy files between windows. two things i totally wanted yesterday
rancid temple
we answered it. Tldr shops (or any place that uses item queries): yes, dialogue/...
Can MFM do specific flavored items in mail ya think?
I know it has like 2 things it still does that CP can't but I can't remember if that would be one of them lol
brittle pasture
Hmm I don't know, probably not since it predates item queries
EMC does add a custom AddItem that uses item queries
rancid temple
I was wondering about an AddItem using item queries lol, that's at least usable
I think you'd have to word the mail to indicate that you'll receive a flavored item though, since it won't show up there
brittle pasture
yeah, maybe I can look into how %item works and add a mail-tailored version
valid folio
Hi, how are you? I have to decide certain values in my mod (prices, production time, health and energy restoration values, etc.), is there any table or parameters to guide on the subject?
lucid iron
nah just go by vibes
brittle pasture
yeah vanilla food is all over the place
brittle pasture
if you want to care about balance I guess you can compare against vanilla stuff
lucid iron
but hm that one doesn't really account for growing the stuff
rancid temple
I prefer the look at vanilla and add a tiny bit method lol
long jungle
I'd appreciate any help as I am new to this stuff. I don't understand what's wrong.
This doesn't seem to be valid JSON.
Technical details: Invalid property identifier character: {. Path 'ConfigSchema['Monster Health']', line 10, position 0.
ocean sailBOT
Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.7 with SDV 1.6.14 build 24317 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 43 C# mods and 28 content packs.
brittle pasture
the wiki lists "gold per day" for each crop, but that doesn't tell the full story (cauliflowers for example is about twice as good as parsnip, but its seed are 4 times as expensive, which matters early)
rancid temple
I'd appreciate any help as I am new to this stuff. I don't understand what's wro...
!json share your code
ocean sailBOT
rancid temple
Vaguely, you have likely forgotten a character such as a comma or a bracket or you're using an incorrect one near the position it indicates
long jungle
!json share your code
``{
"Format": "2.4.4",
"ConfigSchema": {
"Monster Health": {
"AllowValues": "true, false",
"Default": "true",
"Section": "Monster Changes"
},
{
"Monster Damage": {
"AllowValues": "true, false",
"Default": "true",
"Section": "Monster Changes"
},
{
"Monster XP": {
"AllowValues": "true, false",
"Default": "true",
"Section": "Monster Changes"
},
},
"Changes": [........ ``
hard fern
that's not
rancid temple
Use the validator site I linked
hard fern
yeah
long jungle
Use the validator site I linked
Ooooh so that's a thing
rancid temple
Yeah if you're not using a text editor with validation, you can use the validation site to check your syntax. Though I strongly suggest VSC
long jungle
Use the validator site I linked
I feel so dumb as I am probably making a common sense mistake, but please be patient in helping me 😅
rancid temple
You have extra { curly brackets in several locations
Line 10 and 17 I can see immediately
long jungle
ohhh
So Those are not needed
Oh I get it now...
I accidentally copied them along
rancid temple
Yeah, think of {} and [] as the bread to some code sandwiches
For every open you need a close and you need to follow the presented syntax closely to make sure the data is valid
long jungle
For every open you need a close and you need to follow the presented syntax clos...
Yes! Understood
Thanks a lot
According to the json validator, it's now fixed
amber adder
@dusk terrace are you currently open for C# coding comssions right now/near future and can I dm ya
valid folio
the wiki does have artisan goods profit chart tho
ok Do you know in which section of the wiki I can see that?
dusk terrace
<@957767582033772634> are you currently open for C# coding comssions right now/n...
depends on the complexity, you can dm me details
amber adder
depends on the complexity, you can dm me details
Awesome doin so now
shut bane
How do I get my mod in the showcase?
drowsy pewter
@blissful panther Nice mod!
indigo yoke
I'm trying to content patch my own machine (if a mod is installed) to add in more recipes to the output rules. is this the correct format?
hallow prism
i don't think so let me check
drowsy pewter
On the line after Entries, it needs to say
"EfficientCog_to_Iridium": { instead of just {
hallow prism
{
"LogName": "Editing Jeweler Workshop",
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/Machines",
"TargetField": [
"(BC)Lumisteria.MtVapius_JewelerWorkshop", "AdditionalConsumedItems",
],
"Entries": {
"Lumisteria.MtVapius_GoldBar":{
"ID":"Lumisteria.MtVapius_GoldBar",
"ItemID": "(O)336",
"RequiredCount": 1,
"InvalidCountMessage": "{{i18n: MtVapiusJewelerWorkshop_MissingGoldBar_Translated}}"
}
},
"When":{
"HasMod |contains=selph.ExtraMachineConfig": "false",
}
},```So you put the id twice
hallow prism
you directly put the machine then maybe a default, but default isn't a first field
drowsy pewter
also true
hallow prism
{
"LogName": "SeedChange",
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/Machines",
"TargetField": [
"(BC)25",
"OutputRules",
"Default",
"OutputItem",
"Default",
"StackModifiers"
],
"Entries": {
"Lumisteria.MtVapius_ImprovedSeedMaking": {
"Id": "Lumisteria.MtVapius_ImprovedSeedMaking",
"Condition": "ITEM_CONTEXT_TAG Input mt_vapius", //PLAYER_HAS_MAIL Any Lumisteria.MtVapius_SeedMakerMail,
"Modification": "Add",
"Amount": 1.0,
},
},
},```
A more "classic" edit
cinder goblet
Who is easiest to mod in SVE, Krobus or Mr. Qi?
indigo yoke
from my testing, this does indeed seem correct. yay time to... adjust and recode all of the vmv artifacts to use this instead of the old way that I did it >->
lucid iron
Who is easiest to mod in SVE, Krobus or Mr. Qi?
you gotta be more specific, i dont think sve has major changes for either
cinder goblet
you gotta be more specific, i dont think sve has major changes for either
Do either of them have ANY changes to them or their related items (eg. Iridium Krobus Statue, Qi Beans)
lucid iron
not that i know of, but go ask in SVE server to be sure
nothing stops you from just
adding your own item with same sprite as the vanilla ones tho
rancid temple
Honestly wouldn't be surprised if they did, SVE kind of brushes against everything even when it isn't making big changes lol
green patrol
hey hey am back with yet another "how do you do this" question
So I am trying to do a "flavored" item for the kimchi mod and I'm not exactly sure what exactly I'm doing wrong to define it but it causes the game to crash when I scroll to it in the inventory.
This is the code snippet for defining the base object:
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/Objects",
"Entries": {
"KimchiMakerContinued_Kimchi": {
"Name": "KimchiMakerContinued_Kimchi",
"SpriteIndex": 2,
"DisplayName": "{{i18n:Kimchi_Name}}",
"Descripition": "{{i18n:Kimchi_Desc}}",
"Texture": "Shads42.KimchiMakerContinued/Objects",
"Price": 145,
"Edibility": 50,
"Type": "ArtisanGoods",
"Category": -26,
"ContextTags": [
"kimchi_object",
"color_red"
], ```
And then this is the code for defining the corresponding machine output:ArtisanGoods is not a Type
green patrol
"OutputRules": [
{
"Id": "KimchiMakerContinued_Kimchi",
"Triggers": [
{
"Id": "VegetablePlacedInMachine",
"RequiredTags": [
"category_vegetable",
"!no_kimchi"
],
"Trigger": "ItemPlacedInMachine",
"RequiredCount": 1
}
],
"OutputItem": [
{
"Id": "Kimchi_Default",
"ItemId": "KimchiMakerContinued_Kimchi",
"ObjectInternalName": "{0} KimchiMakerContinued_Kimchi",
"ObjectDisplayName": "[LocalizedText Strings/Objects:KimchiMakerContinued_KimchiString %PRESERVED_DISPLAY_NAME]",
"PreserveId": "DROP_IN",
"CopyPrice": true,
"CustomData": {
"selph.ExtraMachineConfig.RequirementId.1": "(O)260",
"selph.ExtraMachineConfig.RequiredCount": 2,
"selph.ExtraMachineConfig.RequirementInvalidMsg": "{{i18n:Kimchi_Missing}}"
}
}
],
"MinutesUntilReady": 100
}```it's not your issue but its not a type and oh wow can you please use the json website
uncut viper
!json
ocean sailBOT
rancid temple
Discord doesn't like formatting, another reason to use the validator site
uncut viper
use this, dont send it directly in here
green patrol
okies uh lemme get screenshot then
uncut viper
not a screenshot
use that website in the governor command
copy and paste your json into it, submit it, and then copy and paste the resulting url into here
drowsy pewter
And you said the game crashed so I want your log too
ocean sailBOT
Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.7 with SDV 1.6.14 build 24317 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 18 C# mods and 20 content packs.
brave fable
screenshot is maybe the worst possible option short of taking a photo lol
green patrol
do you want the machine file and the object file or just the machine file?
rancid temple
Ugh, I'd forgotten about people who just take photos, unhinged
drowsy pewter
Did you set the LocalizedText String elsewhere?
Or did you just replace it with your own name and not actually define a string
teal bridge
screenshot is maybe the worst possible option short of taking a photo lol
You are obviously not familiar with the wooden table method.
https://thedailywtf.com/articles/web_0_0x2e_1
green patrol
No I defined a string
drowsy pewter
Ok
spice inlet
Hm, I am contemplating about adding live events and buttons to UB. Like a button that sequentially lights up some torches in a dark room, or a set of switches that will open a gate in the right combination. A touchaction for non disruptive short dialogue. A pressure plate that patches a bridge onto the map alongside some screenshake, smoke and a woosh sound. 
green patrol
uncut viper
(also when sending jsons thru the validator website you should always include all of the relevant ones)
drowsy pewter
Is your item intended to be colored like other flavored artisan goods?
green patrol
no just flavored
From what it looks like the original 1.5.x mod preserved the name
but the sprite didn't change
I tried doing it like the ones in the vanilla objects file from the base game but it gave me the whole "Flavored objects can only be jelly/wine/pickles/juice/roe" message
so I tried poking around on stardew forums before asking here
drowsy pewter
correct
green patrol
It works if I don't try to preserve the name just fine
uncut viper
its curious that its the string.Format thats erroring
uncut viper
ItemRegistry.GetDataOrErrorItem(base.QualifiedItemId).Description this is returning null somehow
what does your i18n look like?
green patrol
lemme grab it
green patrol
H E C K
hard fern
😭
drowsy pewter
lol
hard fern
descriptition
green patrol
rip this is the semicolon issue all over again
rancid temple
Can you use / in LocalizedText? Base game uses \\
calm nebula
*rip this is the semicolon issue all over again*
For your sanity
drowsy pewter
Can you use `/` in LocalizedText? Base game uses `\\`
yeah
green patrol
what sanity
Also I have no idea rokugin 😅 this is my first time trying to do a "flavored" Item
rancid temple
Good to know
drowsy pewter
anyways do change your Type to be Basic
calm nebula
Use a spellchecker
calm nebula
Always use a spellchecker
next plaza
woh neds a spelchecker
rancid temple
~~what sanity~~
Also I have no idea rokugin 😅 this is my first time trying to ...
I probably should have directed the question at 6480 since that's basically who I was asking lmao
lofty ruin
How do you fix this? It comes out as jumbled words and I just want it to be randomly selected sentences.
https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/1b68423f037541a7b5b1973bd066967a (Schedule,json)
uncut viper
Random separates choices by comma and you've got commas in your dialogue
drowsy pewter
You can instead do Random and put each dialogue choice in an i18n token
its a good idea to i18n, anyways
lofty ruin
Is i18n random? Or is it a daily thing
drowsy pewter
i18n is the system for making translations simple, it just "holds" strings for you behind different keys.
Dialogue file:
"Random: i18n String 1, i18n String 2, i18n String 3"
i18n file:
String 1: "blah blah blah blah"
String 2: "blah blah blah"
String 3: "blah blah"
Aside from being used to make translators lives easier, it also comes in handy for organization like this
That's the basic idea but not the exact syntax
brave fable
what's a clean way of netsyncing a dict<string, (string, vector2)> per day i was going to have them as netfields on a location but now i want arbitrary number of locations
hard fern
whats the thing that makes items count for shipping bin vs not?
brave fable
"ExcludeFromShippingCollection": true, in your data/objects entry
hard fern
^^ tyy
lucid iron
what's a clean way of netsyncing a dict<string, (string, vector2)> per day <:SD...
Just use smapi message maybe, do a send from host player on day start?
blissful panther
<@147736231072104448> Nice mod!
Thanks! It might be a little bit OP currently, buuuut... 
drowsy pewter
I was looking at it like wow I cant believe it's a linear stacking buff 😂
uncut viper
right? it should be exponential /j
blissful panther
With very, very small amounts per crop, at least!
valid folio
The prices of the products, both when buying and selling them are always double what one stipulates in the mod's json, right?
For example if I put a purchase price of a recipe at 500 it will cost 1000 in the game?
uncut viper
it depends on the shop
blissful panther
I'll probably add a balance toggle that reduces the impact the more you have once I have SpaceCore skills in.
uncut viper
but generally yes
valid folio
it depends on the shop
Traveler, saloon or seed shop?
brave fable
smapi message makes me sad but it's an option
uncut viper
pierre has an additional 2x markup
you can make an entry ignore that additional one though if you want
lucid iron
Well I suppose you can also just put the Vector2 into the modData of each location
valid folio
pierre has an additional 2x markup
So if I set 500 is 1000 really
lucid iron
I am assuming the str key is the location name
uncut viper
if you set 500 it will be 2000 in pierre afaik
valid folio
you can make an entry ignore that additional one though if you want
I have no idea what it is
uncut viper
valid folio
<https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Shops>
Reading
brave fable
dict<string, (string, vector2)> for dict<location id, (critter id, critter tile)>
i could probably just lump the value tuple into two moddata entries tho
lucid iron
Blub critter framework 
lucid iron
Worth a shot 
I like making dependencies tho, theoretically ppl better than me at art can use it
indigo yoke
btw @hallow prism , I am just wondering.... have you added anymore artifacts since like.... june?
atomic vale
where is the texture for iron ore in the mines?
lucid iron
springobjects
rancid temple
Maps/springobjects
atomic vale
springobjects
are there any other season objects?
rancid temple
You should include the maps part, some peole still don't know that it's in maps lol
lucid iron
no
atomic vale
and funny
atomic vale
thx
rancid temple
Further objects are in TileSheets/Objects_2
patent lanceBOT
@next plaza: fix the GMCM menu open API stuff for focustense (and other people who might be using it) (23h ago)
teal bridge
Blueberry is red now. That's going to cause some Strooping.
uncut viper
red is the real prize
brave fable
!!
indigo yoke
grats!
brave fable
HOW COME BUTTON'S RED HUH
tender bloom
red!!
uncut viper
bc we won third and second place!
brittle pasture
Rip both of ur prpl
brave fable
OH RIGHT I forgot graveyards was literally your mod and i thought you were 1st place winner lol
blissful panther
So much red here right now!
brave fable
finally... server owner role
tender bloom
blood blood blood blodd
uncut viper
waiting with baited breath to see who the last red is gonna be
lucid iron
now u can all become mathpersons
teal bridge
red is the real prize
I'd say it is, but what happened to "purple beats all"?
uncut viper
it still does! but it wasnt available!
teal bridge
So your prize is actually a downgrade.
lucid iron
so wait do u just permanently have red now
teal bridge
Betting it is, I mean Elizabeth still has red.
next plaza
My exclusive color!
I guess mine is subtly different
Contest Winner colors don't normally last permanently
lucid iron
u have nice magenta tint
uncut viper
doctor classical elizabeth mathperson has a different role
next plaza
Elizabeth has a different type of role
brave fable
jammers 🤝 contestants 🤝 developers
indigo yoke
Elizabeth has a different type of role
more saturation? yours pop more / is brighter?
uncut viper
i will enjoy the red for as long as it lasts
lucid iron
candied apple mmm
brave fable
god i wanna play with graveyards and spooky furniture but playing is so hard
drowsy pewter
finally the modding chat gets a crumb of color variation
calm nebula
Contest Winner colors don't normally last permanently
We need to give you permanently rainbow colors
rancid temple
Fun fact: if you grab a GMCM scrollbar and drag it past the top/bottom, it spams the movement noise
lucid iron
i think we r still too much warm colors