making-mods-general

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[warm garden]

Yeah I tried that too, the weird thing is earlier today I followed the mod guide on the wiki since I've never made a mod before, and it worked perfectly that first time. But when I decided to actually start my own this manifest error started happening.

[lucid iron]

do you have the game open maybe?

[warm garden]

nope

[old edge]

Ok I can't use it anymore then

[warm garden]

steam is fully closed too

[old edge]

Since I don't have 1.6.9

[lucid iron]

no idea then

[old edge]

How would I use the removedelimited function to achieve the same task

[lucid iron]

maybe you should just update to 1.6.9?

[rancid temple]

Remove and then Append I would guess

[lucid iron]

it is come out in a few days anyways

[hard fern]

how would i go about making my npc not show up until later in the day? I uh, am bad wit schedules

[rancid temple]

Like you want them to be completely inaccessible until later?

[hard fern]

yeah

[cyan marsh]

nvm.. i found a tester in my community

I think i've got the ItemList command set

[proven spindle]

Could do a warp room (a map that isn't meant to be accessed by the player) with an npcwarp so only the npc can enter and leave

[vague acorn]

good evening lovely people! what are yall working on?

[acoustic summit]

Making a slimey guy bounce

[hard fern]

warp room>

?

[rancid temple]

They described it in the same sentence lol

[old edge]

That worked It looks to me

Never knew how to use these

[rancid temple]

Yeah I've only used them a few times

[cyan marsh]

https://smapi.io/log/4d9eb2f5f3754d9584698924fb14931b I wonder what the problem is here

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.0.8 with SDV 1.6.8 build 24119 on Microsoft Windows 11 Home, with 6 C# mods and 0 content packs.

[brittle ledge]

Spreadsheets

[hard fern]

😓 ive never heard of a warp room before

[brittle ledge]

(I'm at work)

[acoustic summit]

if you use SVE you can teleport to some npcs like clare in the morning and find them in this empty void

thats a warp room

[vague acorn]

oh XD good luck on those!

[proven spindle]

Basically just add a map (a single tile will do, though you can make it fancier if you want) and add an npcwarp to it that leads to one of the main maps, then in your npc's schedule tell it to go there. Since there's no player warp, the the npc'll vanish from player-accessible areas

[vague acorn]

i wonder, how do you add new aquarium fish?

[hard fern]

ahh

[rancid temple]

Very carefully with no regard for compatibility

There's only a little bit more room on the aquarium fish spritesheet

[vague acorn]

oh? i see it was already solved before me XD

[brittle ledge]

I'm pretty sure aquarium compat is now okay with 1.6?

[acoustic summit]

You dont need to edit the original spritesheet

[vague acorn]

no way to use a different spritesheet?

[rancid temple]

I thought it was added in 1.6 lmao

[vague acorn]

where are they defined though?

[acoustic summit]

you can use a seperate spritesheet and reference it seperately

[rancid temple]

Was it a more recent change to have separate sheets?

[proven spindle]

I personally like to go all out with my warp rooms so my npcs are comfy lol. My mod jam entry's warp room has couches, a game console + tv, and a fridge. None of that's required tho

[hard fern]

time to open tiled LOL

[vague acorn]

oh wait im silly i found it XD

[acoustic summit]

Its in data/AquariumFish

[rancid temple]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Fish_data#Aquarium_fish
Well this would have been good to know earlier when I was fucking with aquarium fish lmao

[acoustic summit]

and you reference the custom texture as the last slot in the data

[brittle ledge]

Nah, aquarium was a 1.5 thing. I'm not super into the details but I think it basically dynamically patches the aquarium like it does the items and it's no longer tied to a specific index

[acoustic summit]

I have an example in my shinyFish mod

[vague acorn]

yeah seems like there's no way to specify a spritesheet

[acoustic summit]

There is

[brittle ledge]

What's your entry?

[vague acorn]

oh? could you send your ShinyFish mod?

[proven spindle]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/28973

[acoustic summit]

"ID" : "Sprite Index/type{fish, eel, float, static, ground}/(Customdata}/texture"

like this: "397SHN": "86/static/////Mods\ShinyFish\ShinyAquariumFish/12 4",

[rancid temple]

Oh I see why I didn't know about the texture field, it's another one of those asides in a sea of information on the migration page with no link to it in small text

[acoustic summit]

this is the mod if you wanna look at source code: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/28183

[vague acorn]

oh i see, it's added at the end

interesting

[proven spindle]

It's in the modding contest channel, tho not in the showcase lol. If someone could pop it in there for me I'd appreciate it

[rancid temple]

I love that it got added to the Items page

[lucid iron]

what message do you want

[acoustic summit]

btw that texture near the end was loaded to that folder, its not local

[vague acorn]

yeah of course

i do need to load the sprites

the spritesheet is 24x24 right?

[proven spindle]

Up to you

[acoustic summit]

Yep 🙂 just clarifying incase

24 by 24 is the format I believe yes

[vague acorn]

oh ): that kinda ruins my original plan

but it's aright, ill just have to split the sprites

[vernal bone]

crying in the club rn

[rancid musk]

Nexus really needs to address how search works. This is just silly.

[brittle pasture]

doesnt it sort by most downloads by default

[acoustic summit]

Its weird cause when you dont press enter the results are 10x better, like the pre-results it shows

[rancid musk]

It seems to sort by Whatever You Want Last by default

But being serious it defaulted to date published

The dropdown on the search box has better sorting than the actual search page, but it also has a tendency to just kind of break, for me

[brittle pasture]

Weird, I just did a sample search on my phone and it defaults to most endorsement

[vague acorn]

another question, what is the best way to increase a fish's chances of being chosen when fishing?

i want to have a fish that appears a whole lot when a specific condition is met

so i want it to absolutely dominate the pool at that condition

[rancid temple]

Generally referred to as spawn chance I believe Sorry I misread the question lmao

[brittle pasture]

Location fish data has a precedence field

[vague acorn]

(probably using the location's fish data)

the lower the number is the better the chacnes are right?

[brittle pasture]

that's controlled by the actual chance value
precedence just ensures your entry gets checked first

and yes the lower the earlier it gets checked

[vague acorn]

perfect!

[acoustic summit]

Lower precedence or higher chance same precedence

[hard fern]

aha, the void.

[vague acorn]

the chance is already at 1.0

[acoustic summit]

I found that changing precedence is the most volatile of the changes for chance

[rancid musk]

So I was digging around and found that there are account-specific settings for default sorting option. Which is, uh... nice I guess? But I have never touched this setting in my life so I don't know why it's on "By recent files"

[brittle pasture]

ah, wacky nexus wackiness

I wonder if I changed that settings when I made my Nexus acc nearly a decade ago

and it actually defaults to recent files which would be rather boneheaded

[hard fern]

hm

[cyan marsh]

this.mailIDCount.Value = Game1.player.mailReceived.Count;``` why is this giving me a null reference

[hard fern]

no clue if im doing this right...

[brittle pasture]

Possibly silly question, but are you running this when the save's loaded

[cyan marsh]

yep

I've always have

[lucid iron]

dumb idea what if you debounce it with delay action

[cyan marsh]

Lookie.. i can now generate Item lists with just a command... even accounts for modded items

[cyan marsh]

why would I need to.. and what do you mean

[lucid iron]

StardewValley.DelayedAction DelayedAction

it let you call a method after delay (in miliseconds)

but hm im pretty sure the farmer would have been init at that point

[lucid iron]

could we have more context around this code? maybe post it to a gist

[cyan marsh]

my git is updated as of today

https://github.com/MissCoriel/Event-Repeater/blob/master/ModEntry.cs

like 315 i believe

[lucid iron]

where do you init private readonly PerScreen<int> mailIDCount;?

ive not used PerScreen before so im unsure

[vague acorn]

I kinda love these

[cyan marsh]

Perscreen is for dualscreen

local multiplayer in other words

[lucid iron]

yea but do u need to new() it

[cyan marsh]

nope

[uncut viper]

(you do)

[cyan marsh]

never had to before

[lucid iron]

smapi changes probably

im too new to know the history here but just try slapping = new(); on them

[cyan marsh]

considering none of the other Perscreens are broken....

it's a null reference.. and it's not MailIDCount

it's Game1.player.mailReceived

[uncut viper]

every example of perscreen ive seen has always initialized it
if initialization is required, then you'd ofc get a null reference exception when trying to get the .Value of a null PerScreen

[cyan marsh]

it's never had that before..

[rancid musk]

You absolutely need to use new() with PerScreen

And you always have

[cyan marsh]

but i never had

[rancid musk]

It's a class, you need to instantiate it.

[uncut viper]

its likely that all your other perscreen stuff IS broken. but your code never makes it far enough to check them and you never encounter it

[cyan marsh]

i've never had to and Pathos assisted with understanding them

Event Repeater is one of my oldest mods

<.< if this was an issue it'd of long been here

[uncut viper]

well, try initializing it and see if it works

[cyan marsh]

@ivory plume did you make a change to PerScreen?

[ivory plume]

Nope.

[cyan marsh]

why is everyone saying i need to suddenly use new with it

[rancid musk]

It's a class. You need to instantiate it. That's how C# works.

[ivory plume]

(You do.)

I don't think that code has ever worked as-is?

[cyan marsh]

<.< so you're saying i should of been doing that

[rancid musk]

I am looking at decompiled Event Repeater 6.5.8 and you're doing it there.

[cyan marsh]

<.< then i know whats wrong

it means I always have

but this code was recovered and it was removed xD

XP explains alot

i haven't really looked at all the recovered code

there.. that fixed it...

I just took things for granted that it ported good

Looks like Dear Diary works fine

that stressed me out

with the issue fixed, I can get back to NPC Utility..

[rancid musk]

On porting related news, I'm updating Cloudy Skies... and somehow the only thing that broke in 1.6.9 is the television menu override?

All these harmony patches, including transpilers... and what broke? The basic menu thing

[cyan marsh]

Now, next on my agenda... acquiring a list of available Maps in game

[rain basalt]

its cause you have sort by date published as your sort options

[brittle pasture]

meanwhile clickCraftingRecipe broke even though zero code changed because the compiler decided to be funny

[rancid musk]

Yes, I discovered as much. I don't know why Nexus made that my default, but I have since changed it.

[rain basalt]

no clue lol working on a new mod idea thats compleatly crazy and have no idea if its even worth it ^..^ but still gona try

[cyan marsh]

anyone has insight on this? cs Game1.locations.ToList().ForEach(location => { });

[brittle pasture]

use Utility.ForEachLocation instead (I think I spelled that right)

[rancid musk]

What are you trying to accomplish

You said acquiring a list of available maps, but what do you need a list for?

[cyan marsh]

This mod is a utility for the new NPC Creator

basically, if you wish to mod using existing mods, you can use this mod to acquire all items, maps, npcs..

so NPC Creator has updated data for you to use

[rancid musk]

Then Utility.ForEachLocation(loc => { return true; }, includeInteriors: false); would probably be best.

Excluding interiors because you really don't need to go digging through the list of locations associated with constructed buildings.

[cyan marsh]

that would be a problem.. and I'd have to figure how to sort them.. because I only want maps that are useable in events

[brittle pasture]

though do you really need the actual locations, or just reading from Data/Locations would suffice

[finite ginkgo]

All locations are technically useable in events if you load their event files

[cyan marsh]

would that include modded map names?

[cyan marsh]

lol don't get technical with me xD

[rancid musk]

It should, yes.

Mind you, some mods might not inject all their maps into that all the time.

[cyan marsh]

so I just need to access that..

[rancid musk]

DataLoader.Locations(Game1.content) is your friend

(DataLoader is your friend in general for ensuring game assets are loaded with the correct types.)

[cyan marsh]

never used it before..

[brittle pasture]

You did use it, albeit indirectly, when you got the list of items in game

[cyan marsh]

        public void ItemExtractor()
        {

            foreach (IItemDataDefinition itemType in ItemRegistry.ItemTypes)
            {
                foreach (string id in itemType.GetAllIds())
                {
                    Item item = ItemRegistry.Create(itemType.Identifier + id);
                    if (item.canBeGivenAsGift())
                    {
                        try
                        {
                            ItemList.TryAdd(item.DisplayName, id);
                        }
                        catch (Exception ex)
                        {
                            Monitor.Log($"{ex.Message}\nSkipping {item.DisplayName}", LogLevel.Warn);
                        }
                    }
                }
            }
            string path = Path.Combine(Environment.CurrentDirectory, "ExtractedData", "ItemList.json");
            File.WriteAllText(path, JsonConvert.SerializeObject(ItemList, new JsonSerializerSettings { Formatting = Formatting.Indented, NullValueHandling = NullValueHandling.Ignore }));
            Monitor.Log("ItemList saved!", LogLevel.Debug);
        }

not sure how they correlate

[brittle pasture]

itemType.GetAllIds() call to the data loader's objects data sheet under the hood

but anyway you don't have to worry about that for now; iterating over what Khloe posted should work

[cyan marsh]

trying to get that to work properly

foreach (KeyValuePair mapinfo in DataLoader.Locations(Game1.content))``` this isn't working

[rancid musk]

Just use var for the type and save yourself a headache, lol

[cyan marsh]

come to think of it

why am i not using var

[rancid musk]

Otherwise you'd need KeyValuePair<string, StardewValley.GameData.Locations.LocationData>

[dim yew]

Are there any common reasons why pressing the specified option on the event fork would just… skip the fork command and proceed with the event as normal?

I’m very confused

[cyan marsh]

can you be more specific?

rather what how are you forking it

using $q or question

[dim yew]

Yeah so my event script just says question fork0 \”#dialogue#answer#answer#\”/fork [event]

Actually wait

[cyan marsh]

fork0 is first answer

[dim yew]

Okay why does the wiki have a hashtag before the dialogue because I feel like that may be the issue

[cyan marsh]

the # separates the answers

[dim yew]

Yeah, in the wiki there’s a hashtag right after the first quote also

like \”#

Let me try without it

[velvet narwhal]

do you want 3 separate options? quickQuestion is probably your best bet

[dim yew]

Yeah it was the # 😩

[cyan marsh]

i prefer to use $q

easier to control and and it's response ID can be recalled anytime

[velvet narwhal]

i only use fork if i want a [yes] -> new event, [no] stop event
but then again i've transitioned everything out of that and i use quickQuestion because it just does what i want

[dim yew]

I had to use fork because the event stops if you select no 🤣

But it’s working now so I’m good

I think that might be an error in the wiki though.

Or maybe I misread which is more likely.

[brittle ledge]

quickQuestion my beloved

[cyan marsh]

woop success

[brittle ledge]

You can end an event early with quickQuestion too! I use it for one of Wren's heart events.

[cyan marsh]

need to remove that Default tho

[velvet narwhal]

quickquestion my beloved, until i forget i don't need to escape quote the damn question bit of it and it throws an error at me because i'm copy-pasting

[cyan marsh]

also the maps that don't apply to events

[acoustic summit]

Someone taking the time to translate your mod into their language is so nice, really just gives you the smiles

[sage jasper]

hey how would i go about trying to start making a mod that retextures polycart minecarts? i havnt made a mod before

[devout otter]

You can start by editing the texture within the mod. Go to assets\Tilesheets in the mod's folder.

[sage jasper]

oh it does actually just have its own assets, welp this is gonna be easy then

thanks

[hard fern]

Thats probably the reason why mods weren't retexturing them

[lucid iron]

need to check if they are loaded to own target or editimage to something else

i recall minecarts being on various map tiles but dunno about this particular mod

[sage jasper]

yep, unfortunately the medieval mods dont have a sideways minecart sprite...

[hard fern]

If it's custom minecarts then

Aka minecarts added by the mod

Then they're their own assets

Instead of borrowing in game asset

[lucid iron]

you need to inspect that mod's content.json then

see where they loaded the sprites to

but if it's just personal edit then feel free to edit the mod directly, it's fine as long as you dont redistribute

[next plaza]

So I did actually mention this to him yesterday. He showed me some pumpkins and said I could share, but he also mentioned wanting to post it on twitter, so I decided to wait until he did. 😛 https://twitter.com/ConcernedApe/status/1852065903560790069

ConcernedApe (@ConcernedApe) on X

I will add every stardew pumpkin to my folder

Twitter · Oct 31, 2024, 7:11 PM

(To be clear, they're not his pumpkins)

[sweet sphinx]

so many krobus, and one chicken

[teal bridge]

It'd be pretty hilarious if he had 50 pumpkins on his porch.

[sweet sphinx]

stardew mod that puts 50 pumpkins on your porch

[velvet narwhal]

so many krobus

[brave fable]

sdv posted pumpkins... for me..

i mean ca

[velvet narwhal]

https://smapi.io/log/b3c69c416d0f404ba649de3b628ac023 did AT not have this error before?

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.0-beta.5 with SDV 1.6.9 'beta' build 24305 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 34 C# mods and 33 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[brave fable]

that does look like a very 'beta refactoring' error

pathos getting one last framework to collapse before release ☀️

[velvet narwhal]

i pressed the funny 'enable all' and i've forgotten which ones are and aren't betas

i think all of peacefulend's stuff didn't load

[next plaza]

I don't think that's a recent change?

I mean, 1.6.9, yeah

[velvet narwhal]

oh wait it's just fashion sense that didn't load

[next plaza]

But I thought Pathos changed that weeks ago

[brave fable]

maybe, but peaceful sure isn't around to update it

[next plaza]

I mean they updated FS recently

[velvet narwhal]

i go grab yet again

[brave fable]

oh really? nevermind then haha

[next plaza]

Well, 4 weeks agop

Last active is today

[teal bridge]

There's no one version of SMAPI that's compatible with both 1.6.8 and 1.6.9, right? It's still all or nothing?

[velvet narwhal]

i have 3 smapis

dev 4.0.8, reg, 1.6.9 smapi

[next plaza]

The version I use I think might be compatible at both, or maybe just older builds of 1.6.9

I just changed the requirements when compiling

And ignore the contenthashes.json missing warning

[velvet narwhal]

oh i have the latest fs unless you meant the git fs

[teal bridge]

So if you build it yourself it might work with both versions... though eh, I don't know if I want to do any serious work with a homebrew SMAPI build.

[dim yew]

Dumb question but there’s not a “rain” music track for events is there?

[velvet narwhal]

p sure rain turns off all bgm

[dim yew]

not in events sadly

[teal bridge]

Well, rain is the BGM.

[dim yew]

is it just called rain? Lol

[teal bridge]

Oh, I doubt that.

[dim yew]

oof

I’d like for rain sounds to play during an event is what I mean.

[teal bridge]

Wait, maybe it is.

[ornate trellis]

its called rain

[velvet narwhal]

none bgm and then playSound ?

[lucid iron]

static void PlayRain()
{
    changeMusicTrack("rain", track_interruptable: true);
}

[teal bridge]

According to the spreadsheet, there's rain for the BGM and rainsound for the croaks and such.

(I got caught off guard, it's so rare for a sound to match its sound-bank name.)

:drumkit6:

[lucid iron]

say how do u unpack sound

[brave fable]

there's a guide on [[Modding:Audio]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Audio

[lucid iron]

maybe i can wine it

[teal bridge]

("there are dozens of us! dozens!")

[lucid iron]

oh i can build the first one, maybe

[teal bridge]

There might actually be license issues involved. XACT is apparently a Microsoft thing, which they hilariously call cross platform, that's what the "X" in "XACT" stands for.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross-platform_Audio_Creation_Tool

[lucid iron]

wait is that what X stands for in all the XNA and related things

[calm nebula]

Oh I thought it stood for xbox

[lucid iron]

yea same

[brave fable]

surprisingly, xbox stands for cross-platform box.

[teal bridge]

And the X in Xbox X Series X stands for Xbox X.

[iron ridge]

wasn't it directX?

[brave fable]

nono, that stands for xbox

[teal bridge]

DirectXBox.

[brittle pasture]

the X in Xbox stands for DirectX, and the X in DirectX stands for Xbox
ez

[brave fable]

classic case of circular dependencies

[lucid iron]

the tool deals with xwb but what is in FarmerSounds.xgs and Sound Bank.xsb?

[teal bridge]

Sound bank is like an index to the wave bank.

[brave fable]

yeah you won't need those

[iron ridge]

that's meant to be a b, not a v, right?

[brave fable]

what is 'that'

[iron ridge]

wavevank

[brave fable]

oh

lol

[rain basalt]

wabe vank

[teal bridge]

As for .xgs, those are "global settings": https://wiki.multimedia.cx/index.php/XACT#Global_Settings_(.xgs)

[brave fable]

makes me wonder what sorts of tricks you could pull by playing with the audioengine settings

unsurprisingly the game really doesn't dare for the most part

[teal bridge]

It does do spatial audio, or so I'm told - haven't really noticed it myself.

[tender bloom]

my bets would be on the first one though idk for sure

oops sorry for ping

[lucid iron]

i built it

[tender bloom]

I remember gnashing and wailing but it worked for me

[lucid iron]

but it only grabbed int ids

[tender bloom]

so I think I did maybe have to build the code or something

oh yeah all the files are just named random strings of numbers

[lucid iron]

i need to inspect the xsb for that right

hex editing 👻

[tender bloom]

idk I just left them as the numbers and cross-referenced the wiki

are there new 1.6 sounds or something?

I haven't tried since 1.5

[lucid iron]

no but i desire info

it's also just nice to have at hand to ref i think

[calm nebula]

If you like

[tender bloom]

the wiki has a table with filename to audio thingy name labeled

[calm nebula]

Just want info, chue, just weite a tiny little mod that plays sounds lol

[tender bloom]

are you saying that cause you made one

i am remembering something about jukeboxes

[calm nebula]

I did not. Peace dix

[tender bloom]

ah, easily confusable 😛

[calm nebula]

Chue could make it before I get home from work

Nah, peace is a good programmer

[lucid iron]

but i want to see if there is mystery unused sounds

[tender bloom]

I love how if I squint it looks like we're losing our minds

talking to ourselves

[tender bloom]

heyyyyyy so are you!!

[brittle pasture]

Is Relativity MathPerson taken

[tender bloom]

don't think so

maximum purple time?

[brittle pasture]

ah but Im not prpl

[tender bloom]

fixable

[calm nebula]

Reflect into the soundbank

[velvet narwhal]

here i was thinking atra was still the old name

[calm nebula]

Lol. It's just a dictionary lol

[lucid iron]

oh i can just do that?

ur smort atra

[calm nebula]

Nope, take it!

[brittle pasture]

unfortunately I value my skeleton general title too much to rejoin the ranks of prpl

[velvet narwhal]

Who's dumping their stats

[brittle pasture]

the last burst of treeeeeaats

[uncut viper]

i realized i had 3 minutes left and still had 30 of each

[brittle pasture]

We will not go gentle into the night

[velvet narwhal]

[uncut viper]

i didnt get to use them all, rip.

[lucid iron]

aw shucks i forgor about it

[brittle pasture]

Jail
I at least dumped all of mine, at least I think I did

[velvet narwhal]

Button, a suggestion was made for you to have made gravestones say junimo names

[uncut viper]

like, server mods?

[velvet narwhal]

Yeah, "Here lies Pathos/Logo etc"

[brittle pasture]

now I wonder who will win
(probably Graveyards )

[uncut viper]

i dont think i have a good enough rapport with like any of them to feel comfortable putting their names as dead people on a gravestone lol
bit late now anyway

[calm nebula]

Yeahhhhh

[velvet narwhal]

Button still on front page last I checked

[uncut viper]

i wouldnt have been free enough to do it today anyway

[lucid iron]

shoulda opened headstone signups

[uncut viper]

too late for the contest, i mean. i think its whatever version exists now is the version thats judged

[lucid iron]

free real estate

[velvet narwhal]

Yeah I was happy to have put in the accessibility option and call it a day

Button just barely got all the points out

[dim yew]

lmfao I missed the contest deadline by two minutes

this is awesome

[rain basalt]

[dim yew]

Emailed bouncer but.... oh well.

[tender bloom]

I forgot to send any treats or tricks

[velvet narwhal]

That's also kind of why I posted my modpage and didn't care how many updates needed

[dim yew]

I'm pretty upset actually haha

[hallow prism]

try sending it to bouncer anyway

worse case, they'll judge it but you'll win no prize

neutral case, it stay as it is, which is already the case anway

[dim yew]

woof.

[hallow prism]

i mean, you have nothing to lose, unless it's even more frustrating this way

but since you decide, well

it may already help to have a small choice

[dim yew]

I hope that mods are gracious

[hallow prism]

"dear teacher, nexus ate my submission"

[rain basalt]

O.O can i not react to lumina 🤔

[teal bridge]

I couldn't understand how it was supposed to work, so I just ignored it.

[rancid temple]

Pretty sure it was just a for fun interaction

[uncut viper]

and a way to spend my extra 45 points

[lucid iron]

Very sad that this channel is going back to all orange + button soon

[brittle pasture]

didnt even fall to the temptation of an early 10 points role, now that's dedication

[uncut viper]

i didnt like any of the colours

[brittle pasture]

not even prpl?

[hallow prism]

there will be green with 1.6.9 release soon AND end of month stats (if they didn't happen already)

[uncut viper]

the purple is okay but its not my ideal purple

[teal bridge]

I understood that at a very abstract, conceptual level, just not in the particulars.

[uncut viper]

not good enough of a purple to be bought when its gonna be covered up by gold

[teal bridge]

I think the gold suits you.

[uncut viper]

it is quite nice

its not usually my colour but this one is nice. very bold.

[teal bridge]

I thought about going grey, but the red offered a slim chance for being confused with the developer role, and I can't resist the opportunity for a little chaos.

[brittle pasture]

hey "frankentense" whens 1.6 SMAPI for mobile plees

[teal bridge]

Six to eight weeks.

[rancid temple]

Six to eight business years

[sweet sphinx]

3

[tender bloom]

6 to 8 millennia

[teal bridge]

(Those are all very good points, but they are already implied by the six to eight weeks meme)

[sweet sphinx]

3 days? 3 months? 3 years?
3

[rancid temple]

It wouldn't be the authentic game dev experience if a bunch of people didn't try to tell you what you meant when you said something

[sweet sphinx]

I was referencing a different meme to Shadow, didn't mean to be stepping on Frankentense's toes

[teal bridge]

Not to worry, I can sew on new toes.

[tender bloom]

I got you some, now you just need a needle and thread

[teal bridge]

I was thinking contact cement.

Or superglue. Whatever's on hand, really.

[rancid temple]

My grandmother was a superglue kind of person

[tender bloom]

Superglue is super effective

[rancid temple]

Chop off the tip of your finger? Superglue it back on

[teal bridge]

sgtm

[rancid temple]

Got a gnarly cut, superglue will fix that too

[tender bloom]

My hot tip is that if you need less superglue on your fingers, let it dry and use a file to get it off once it’s hard

Of course definitely don’t touch your fingers when it’s wet

[teal bridge]

And don't rub your eyes.

[tender bloom]

My RA in college sliced his hand accidentally so I took him to the ER

He said they just medical superglued him

I got to drive his car because I was voted most responsible

[cyan marsh]

im back from trick or treating

[teal bridge]

It's a real thing. Pretty much the same as cauterizing or stapling, really.

[brave fable]

i give you full rights to my likeness as the most dead modding staff

[teal bridge]

Although I'm obliged to point out that it doesn't, technically work on severed digits, only for closing up wounds.

[teal bridge]

Who are you again?

[lucid iron]

But you are already in the game

I grow you every summer

[tender bloom]

If you’re a Frankentense maybe the rules are different

[cyan marsh]

sooo.. i need a bit of help... particular help if anyone is available

I need someone who uses mods that add maps to the game

[rain basalt]

k

whats up lol

[cyan marsh]

are you volunteering?

[teal bridge]

I will break any rules, including the laws of physics and chemistry.

[round dock]

Checked the strings just now, can anyone please explain to me how this works in the mail in deducting cash? "passedOut3_Billed": "@,^Someone dropped you off at the clinic last night. You'd passed out from exhaustion!^You've got to take better care of yourself and go to bed at a reasonable hour.^I've billed you {0}g to cover your medical expenses.^^-Dr. Harvey[#]From The Office Of Dr. Harvey",

[rain basalt]

yep lol i add and change maps

[round dock]

Thank you!

[velvet narwhal]

i think it's locationcontexts

[lucid iron]

This string is just the mail

[velvet narwhal]

but i'll have to double check, my taquitos come first though

[tender bloom]

C# for the money

{0} gets replaced in code

[cyan marsh]

Install this mod, start a game, use the following console command create maplist and put the resulting text file here for me to see

[tender bloom]

As they should

[round dock]

ah, thank you Avi, Chu, and Elizabeth

[tender bloom]

The passing out letters are a bit of content and a sprinkle of C# to make it all work

[cyan marsh]

oh @rain basalt, It outputs to a folder called ExtractedData in your SDV folder

[tender bloom]

So you can affect some stuff but others would be hard

[rain basalt]

im running 1.6.9 beta will that be an issue?

[cyan marsh]

unsure

would be nice to know

[rain basalt]

hmm

[cyan marsh]

did it not work for you?

[rain basalt]

well got map list but not seeing my custom maps

[cyan marsh]

can you post it here?

[cyan marsh]

hmm

[rain basalt]

should be Custom_NewCellar

[cyan marsh]

        public void MapExtractor()
        {
            List<string> MapList = new List<string>();
            List<string> Filter = new List<string> { "Default", "Farm_Standard", "Farm_Beach", "Farm_Forest", "Farm_FourCorners", "Farm_Hilltop", "Farm_Riverland", "Farm_Wilderness", "Farm_MeadowlandsFarm", "BeachNightMarket", "DesertFestival", "fishingGame", "Temp" };
            foreach (var mapinfo in DataLoader.Locations(Game1.content))
            {
                MapList.Add(mapinfo.Key);
            }
            foreach (string mapFilter in Filter)
            {
                MapList.Remove(mapFilter);
            }
            string path = Path.Combine(Environment.CurrentDirectory, "ExtractedData", "MapList.txt");
            File.WriteAllLines(path, MapList);
            Monitor.Log("MapList saved!", LogLevel.Debug);

        }
``` might not in the same place?

[rain basalt]

all maps are loaded into Map folder

[cyan marsh]

I want it to detect all maps

[tiny zealot]

celestia, have you also edited Data/Locations for those map assets?

[rain basalt]

no not locations

but they work lol

[tiny zealot]

well that's why they aren't showing up then:
foreach (var mapinfo in DataLoader.Locations(Game1.content))

[rain basalt]

🤔

so shes looking at location folder and not reading maps directory

[cyan marsh]

Maps Directory wouldn't use their actual names normally

[rancid temple]

For events, the locations is what matters, not the maps

[cyan marsh]

i imagine anyways

[tiny zealot]

if you are using CP's CustomLocations (deprecated), then maybe miss coriel needs to account for that

[rain basalt]

yah i load with CP and custom locations

[rancid temple]

I believe CustomLocations does just make Data/Locations entries

[cyan marsh]

what should I look for?

[tiny zealot]

that's what i thought too, but it seems like they're not showing up

[rancid temple]

Did you run that command after loading a save?

[rain basalt]

but im not using custom locations for this mod lol just loading in a map for my buildings to reference

[cyan marsh]

yep

[rain basalt]

yes

[uncut viper]

if those are maps intended for constructable building interiors, they shouldnt be Locations

[rancid temple]

Oh, weren't building interiors intentionally excluded?

[brittle pasture]

It's a building interior?

yes they are earlier

[rain basalt]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/21971

[rancid temple]

I don't think you can put events in building interiors even if you wanted to lol

[brittle pasture]

the tool's for an npc maker so we only wanted non-instanced, real map locations

[rancid temple]

At least not those types of buildings

[cyan marsh]

yeah things like sheds and the like won't be in the list

[rain basalt]

lol

[uncut viper]

i wonder if an event would work if you somehow knew ahead of time what the exact unique instanced interior ID would be

[rancid temple]

Maybe if you were distributing the save file lol

With the interior already generated

[cyan marsh]

you could probably acquire the ID the first time you go in there, then use SMAPI to make it work

[brave fable]

i'm sure there's a token for location name including unique id. just gotta do some weird bullshit to load an event

[rain basalt]

sec let me see if my ranch mod loaded the one side map

[uncut viper]

i dont know if the game specifically checks if you're inside an instanced interior

[brave fable]

you, too, can have a wedding in your coop

[cyan marsh]

so.. is this issue my code or what

[brittle pasture]

no, it's just celestia tested with a building interior mod, which shouldnt be included (and didnt)

[rain basalt]

and of corse my ranch map is broken again lol >.>

[sweet sphinx]

is that what you're trying to do? /gen

[cyan marsh]

so thus.. need someone that uses something like SVE or something

[rain basalt]

yah sorry im mostly working on building stuff right now

[brave fable]

no, i'm not doing anything lol. just posting nonsense

[uncut viper]

the code actually only seems to check the GameLocation's name, not even its NameOrUniqueName. would you even need the unique id then or can you just load Data/Events/Coop

[cyan marsh]

would be interesting

[calm nebula]

Yup

You can indeed have an event in a coop

[uncut viper]

well, i guess you technically dont want to exclude those, then

[brittle pasture]

but then again do we really want to give ppl the power to

[cyan marsh]

[calm nebula]

Yes

Always

[uncut viper]

i can think of some cute event ideas that take place in buildings

like another Haley cow event in a barn

so i think it should extend to custom NPCs

[brittle pasture]

the issue is that events would be weird the moment the user uses an interior change mod

but that's about my only objection

[uncut viper]

if things were limited based on the possibility of things being weird with different mod interactions, no mods would exist

[calm nebula]

Sorry, bootton

This mod randomly assigns every texture to every other texture

[brittle pasture]

anyway if you want interior maps you can iterate over Data/Buildings and get the IndoorMap field

[calm nebula]

It also throws random errors in log if any other mods are installed

[uncut viper]

my mods do that last part anyway if i put enough prefixes in

[brittle pasture]

that should cover it? can events warp to a standalone map?

[cyan marsh]

welp so much for this right now DX

[calm nebula]

Aren't y'all glad I'm retired from modding

[velvet narwhal]

wdym standalone map?

[velvet narwhal]

no, i want shovel back

[brittle pasture]

temp maps?
though since you can't start events in temp maps I'm not sure if finding them are necessary
(actual event makers pls feel free to silence correct me)

[velvet narwhal]

i have never tried to start an event in a temp map because, well, i don't know how i'd even get to it in game

[brittle pasture]

yeah exactly, baring C# shenanigans

[velvet narwhal]

that's still some form of, you're somewhere -> change to temp though? unless it's a forced ondaystart warp

[brittle pasture]

anyway if you're seriously considering the power to allow weddings in coops you want to iterate over DataLoader.Buildings(Game1.content) and pull the IndoorMap field

[cyan marsh]

That is not anything i'm doing

I am just trying to generate a list of event compatible maps

[uncut viper]

thats the point, coops and things ARE event compatible

[velvet narwhal]

why not iterate everything loaded into data/events then

[cyan marsh]

doesn't account for custom maps, doesn't show maps that can have events but don't by default

[brittle pasture]

yeah, though ppl may be making their own maps with their NPCs and didn't put events in there

[uncut viper]

also, how do you iterate over things in Data/Events

[velvet narwhal]

you still ahve to create a blank.json though for a brand new location?

hmmmmm checking the content pipeline? but idk that's me pulling it out of my bum

[uncut viper]

custom maps and maps that dont have events by default would be loaded... as Data/Events/MapName

but loading Data/Events is just nothing

[tiny zealot]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
i just spent an insane amount of time on what i thought were sync problems or other weird shit and it turns out i'm just a dumdum and i used the wrong player's id for one of the steps so it was always trying to find the wrong instance

[velvet narwhal]

some locations might not've bothered to load a blank there though, so would there be a way to just compare both

[brittle pasture]

technically you can, with SMAPI reflection crimes™

[uncut viper]

it doesnt matter if they load a blank if content patcher is loading it

it has to exist as an asset to be used

[cyan marsh]

The scope of this is to just create a text file with all the locations so I can use it to populate my NPC Creator

[tiny zealot]

reflection crimes?

[uncut viper]

can you elaborate on what smapi reflection crimes can have you finding everything under Data/Events/*

[brittle pasture]

to be clear, what you have is sufficient for real game locations that can conceivably be NPC homes/pathing routes and the like, we're just a bunch of nerds debating over instanced/temp maps

[velvet narwhal]

oh i thought you were trying to add in some kind of event creator

[cyan marsh]

though I need to be sure it works for the custom maps people put out

such as what if someone wants to make a NPC that uses SVE locations...

[uncut viper]

if someone has a custom map with an event, it will be loaded and caught by DataLoader.Locations and DataLoader.Buildings. if its not in there, its because they have it conditionally patched, but in that case there's not really anything you can do except watch in the AssetRequested event for it

and refresh your list as needed

but people should not be conditionally loading their locations anyway

probably not their events either since they can just precondition them

[brittle pasture]

ah yeah forgot they have to be loaded first

[cyan marsh]

I still want to have solid proof it works, but I really don't want to go through the tedium of installing SVE or something

[uncut viper]

the locations dictionary is still just a dictionary of every location though, they will all at least be listed in there even if their actual maps are not loaded

[brittle pasture]

finally at my desk, going to test with my mod that adds a couple extra locations

[safe mortar]

I'm getting this for all my marriage dialogue. I'm sure I missed something. It said to go here to learn more about format documentation stuff https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/tree/develop/ContentPatcher#readme

[cyan marsh]

appreciate.. just put the text file here so I can look

[velvet narwhal]

what does your content + marriage dialogue json look like?

[brittle pasture]

no other mods but mine that adds the last 2 entries

[cyan marsh]

is that the valid name?

i was expecting CUSTOM_<mapname>

[brittle pasture]

I think that's for maps using the old CustomLocations route?

[cyan marsh]

i see

[brittle pasture]

Mine just uses the 1.6 system

[cyan marsh]

i never been good at the maps stuff

I should look for the old stuff too right?

[uncut viper]

Content Patcher handles the old stuff by converting it to the new stuff

[tiny zealot]

maps/locations can be called anything now. it is recommended practice to prefix them with your mod id, but some people just don't, so have fun

[calm nebula]

My new location is a zero width space

[safe mortar]

here ya go!

[velvet narwhal]

okay the old loading format, what does your dispositions look like

[safe mortar]

oh yeah i started before 1.6 that could be causing some issues

[velvet narwhal]

that's fine for now, but if you're using the old dispositions, format 2.3.0 will get mad at you

[brave fable]

oh do we not prefix stuff with Custom_ now

is it all modid

[velvet narwhal]

actually i don't think 2.3.0 even recognizes NPCDispositions

[lucid iron]

yea since we can do that

now u can enforce your branding

[safe mortar]

i think i started this around when 1.6 came out and everything was chaos

[velvet narwhal]

!npc tia has the updated one

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Aviroen has put together a template that will allow you to easily create a romanceable NPC.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

To use this command, type !npc.

[brittle pasture]

ah the olden days, when my knees didn't hurt, and when SMAPI complained if your maps didn't start with Custom_

[safe mortar]

i remember much chaos but i'm super ADHD so that's kinda my everyday vibe

[cyan marsh]

I hope i am overthinking things

[velvet narwhal]

i think once you've sorted out your data/characters, it'll make the other things stop erroring

[brave fable]

i have many things to rename 😌

[safe mortar]

oh yes! i just saw this posted in prior chat and started looking at it 😄

[cyan marsh]

Next, I need to create an NPC roster...

[velvet narwhal]

as it is right now, you're fine to load your dialogue/marriagedialogue like that, but just remember that you cannot use i18n tokens

[safe mortar]

i've seen those but i don't think i used any (or have i? 😅 ) ok!

[tiny zealot]

now that i keep having to reload two game instances for multiplayer nonsense, i am thinking about a mod that reduces the steam api connection timeout down to 1 second

(or skips it entirely and returns false or w/e)

[lucid iron]

does hot reload work with 2 instances

[tiny zealot]

maybe, but some of the stuff i'm debugging is like, unrecoverable crashes so i have to restart anyway

[velvet narwhal]

does hot reload work in multiplayer?

[cyan marsh]

hmm.. how to find a list of the npcs in game

[brave fable]

export data/characters surely

[uncut viper]

hot reload will change the game of the player thats running through the IDE but not the other one

[tiny zealot]

it works for at least one instance!

[lucid iron]

that seems very explody

[velvet narwhal]

(1) fear

[lucid iron]

but what if you do split screen

[tiny zealot]

if the other one doesn't change you will get weird shit, yeah

[brittle pasture]

DataLoader.Characters(Game1.content)

[velvet narwhal]

i couldn't even save when i used hot reload

[uncut viper]

do you have any idea how fucking annoying it was to test my Rock Paper Scissors mod since it required 4 players

[brittle pasture]

everything you ever need is in DataLoader

[safe mortar]

maybe i just start over and copy/paste as needed 😅

[tiny zealot]

i don't actually know how to play split screen at all. it is probably broken for this and i would prefer not to think about it

[lucid iron]

im sure button has 3 willing friends

[calm nebula]

Tax prep is in dataloader?

[brittle pasture]

(I did not my test my battle arena mod with MP, should I be nervous)

[lucid iron]

naaaah

[uncut viper]

bold to admit that before judging

[calm nebula]

Or at least three unwilling friends

[lucid iron]

if they crash its lore friendly (the void chiqns gottem)

[cyan marsh]

ahh i was using NPC

[velvet narwhal]

it might be best! though i will give you the spiel, you should make your internal NPC's name with your modid because 'jo' seems quite common

[brittle pasture]

(like worst case scenario the farmhands get stranded in the void with no way to return)

(eh I;m sure it's fine)

[lucid iron]

if the void is instanced to player then u dont have to worry about this ever

[velvet narwhal]

oh time to open up the void chickens in split screen

[tiny zealot]

more J-name NPCs?

[velvet narwhal]

what does j club change 'Jo' to? or does it stay the same

[brittle pasture]

1.7 really added a lot of new stuff

[tiny zealot]

it would just stay Jo. why mess with perfection

[lucid iron]

hm i think 1.6.9 might have fixed mystery donate box problem?

[safe mortar]

gotcha, so i'd put {{ModId}}_Jo

[velvet narwhal]

the double entendre of two special orders at the same spot?

[lucid iron]

i could turn in 1 special order and then the box will be fore other special order once i reopen

[safe mortar]

when said aloud, could be Jo (fem) or Joe (masc) and I love that gender confusion

[lucid iron]

jojo

[safe mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/leave-get-out-end-no-more-relationships-gif-5380785

saw her live at a gymnastics thing before she was famous. forgot all about it until now lmao

[lucid iron]

why do we have

[safe mortar]

JoJo™️

[velvet narwhal]

why not?

[lucid iron]

terror

[safe mortar]

perfect for halloween

[ornate trellis]

you thought it was puffer but it was dio all along!

[brave fable]

omg we lost puffersenpai

[velvet narwhal]

what

i pray my entry gets in

[lucid iron]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/585550871962583040.webp?size=160&quality=lossless

[ornate trellis]

[brittle pasture]

I declare national day of mourning

[cyan marsh]

😮 with this power, I could probably divide the npc between marriagable and not

[ornate trellis]

[brittle pasture]

void here smuggling in illegal puffers

[velvet narwhal]

void took all the puffs before they got banished to the shadow realm

[ornate trellis]

excuse you i printed them myself at home, totally legally

[cyan marsh]

first... lets check if i can make a list

[ornate trellis]

and one time i even got one into the official list

[velvet narwhal]

that's pretty good ngl

[ornate trellis]

too bad handsome and smug were declined lmao

the cheer one exists because someone wished there was one in the event chat and i was like ok im bored why not

[cyan marsh]

hmmm

[ornate trellis]

beautiful

[cyan marsh]

needs adjustment

[sweet sphinx]

ngl, once I figure out NPCs, I'll probably do:

1. more of Krobus's people npcs
2. more dwarf npcs
   and if I can figure out maps too
3. zuyawn(the species my kin/character is) expansion mod

[ornate trellis]

ill stop derailing and go back to sorting through my closet, ahem

[velvet narwhal]

godspeed expansion dreamer

[cyan marsh]

npclist.Add(npc.Key, npc.Value.DisplayName.ToString());``` any thoughts on refactoring?

[lucid iron]

i thought DisplayName is a string

[cyan marsh]

it comes out as the result above

[brittle pasture]

you can wrap the second value in Game1.parseText to convert those tokens into the proper values

yeah it's a tokenizable string

[cyan marsh]

not sure how that works

never had to do that

[tiny zealot]

tokenizable strings are new in 1.6. call Game1.parseText on them

[cyan marsh]

ok.. since i've never used that i am unsure how it comes out

[brittle pasture]

Game1.parseText(npc.Value.DisplayName) should work

[cyan marsh]

ah

seems worse

[brave fable]

the other function of parsetext is adding line breaks to text

[cyan marsh]

guess what it did xD

[brittle pasture]

hang on it might be possible I gave you the wrong function

[brave fable]

you want TokenParser.ParseText()

not Game1.parseText

lol

[brittle pasture]

yeah
puts on cone of shame

[cyan marsh]

outstanding..

would this pick up NPCs that use NPCDisposition?

[velvet narwhal]

🤝 i am also making my expansion based around shadowpeople but it's more rpg-story based

[brittle pasture]

I think the conversion's done by SMAPI at that point so yeah

[sweet sphinx]

ooo~

[cyan marsh]

good to hear

[sweet sphinx]

will it contain more shadowpeople?

[velvet narwhal]

a lot more, considering that's the whole storybeat

[sweet sphinx]

niiiice

maybe smn else can pipe up about their dwarf expansion mod so I can immediately move onto the zuyawn one X3

[tiny zealot]

i know there is one, or maybe two

[velvet narwhal]

i don't know about a full on one but there is "the littlest smallnu"? i don't remember what it's called

it's usually one or two npcs though, right?

[tiny zealot]

last smoluanu, and i think there's a separate dwarf expansion but i don't know how much content either one has

[velvet narwhal]

mine encompasses both but uh, that is a "this thing is probably not releasing until sept 2025"

[sweet sphinx]

fair

anything rpg is bound to take a while

[tiny zealot]

i am always talking about mice but no expansion in the works about it (Lacey's whole deal sort of precludes it, oops lol)

[velvet narwhal]

i make ichor make all the mouse npcs

a fair trade

[sweet sphinx]

my zujawn one is mainly just a new place to visit, some people to talk too, maybe some exotic crops and animals(can you buy animals from places other than Marnie's?) you can get

[tiny zealot]

i have some notes about an expansion i would like to make (aren't we all expansion dreamers?), but i have not done one lick of actual work on it. only dreams

[cyan marsh]

now I have sorted them 😄

[velvet narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/dreams-shia-motivation-dont-let-your-dreams-be-dreams-gif-4777431

c'mon ichor, join the hell fun

[brave fable]

join me in expansion purgatory. low expectations and no deadlines ☀️

[cyan marsh]

oopsie code.. i fixed

but yeah.. sorted them

[tiny zealot]

one day! i'm in hell enough on this "small" mod i started as kind of a whim

[cyan marsh]

I will work on other things later.. for now, this is functional but i need to get NPC Creator going

[lucid iron]

what r u gonna do about translations

[tiny zealot]

basic shit seems to be working now, so now i have to staple on the extra features and the progression

[lucid iron]

will it just be up to person using it to obtain their own list

[sweet sphinx]

wait, would an expansion need c#?

[cyan marsh]

yep.. it's for NPC Creator customization without a bunch of guesswork

[brave fable]

i feel like for an NPC creator you wouldn't want to use DisplayName anyway, you'd only want internals right?

[velvet narwhal]

no, i'm just extra

[cyan marsh]

you will need both

[lucid iron]

expansion isnt really a well defined thing anyways

[brave fable]

well yes to make one, but you're compiling a list of all other npcs

if there's 3 with the displayname Jeff and you don't know if it's MyMod.Jeff or CoolHouse.Jeff though

which are you going to reference, Jeff, Jeff, or Jeff

[velvet narwhal]

Jef, Jeff, Gif

[cyan marsh]

if, for some reason, someone's custom NPC uses a displayname different from their internal name

[sweet sphinx]

ah, fair

[tiny zealot]

definitely CoolHouse.Jeff. all the other jeffs can't compete

[tiny zealot]

everyone should be doing this

[cyan marsh]

like, the item codes.. i don't need the display name perse.. but I use that for ease of use.. it's easier to select by item name than Item ID

[sweet sphinx]

Geoff

[lucid iron]

i think ppl usually consider expansion a mod that adds some extra area and several npcs, and associated items and such

[cyan marsh]

thus.. when you select the display name, the code will reference their internal name

[velvet narwhal]

"Hello, Aviroen_Mothman, how are you today?"

[brave fable]

i just feel like in the development tools you should always use internal names

[lucid iron]

none of these inherently need C# but ppl do end up with random C# features they wanted

[cyan marsh]

that would work for me.. but not for everyone

NPC Creator uses internals..

it just uses the display name for selection..

[velvet narwhal]

an expansion could solely be cooking as well, it's a broad term to just be "large amount of content" tbh

[brittle pasture]

in a brief moment of hubris and weakness I almost added "Expansion" to my contest mod name

[next plaza]

MMR is kinda an expansion I guess with how much content I want to do for it

[calm nebula]

just expand every spritesheet by 16px

[tiny zealot]

casey i'm really sorry that this acronym stands for Measles/Mumps/Rubella

[next plaza]

Vertically and not horizontally, right? Riiiiiiight?

[brave fable]

technically, wide pam counts as an expansion

[cyan marsh]

as an example https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2898 if someone wanted to do something with this mod, they wouldn't realize her internal name is Wizard as she is a replacer.. they would be able to select her by her display name and NPC creator will add the internal name where applicable

[next plaza]

Hmm. Well, there are worse acronyms with another definition in the modding community

[cyan marsh]

(sorry my cat decided to lay on my keyboard)

[calm nebula]

Hey I just made a mod that inserts a purple square at tilesheet position 0 on every map 😛

[next plaza]

wat

You made a mod???? You're not retired anymore?1?!

[velvet narwhal]

we're getting shovel 2.0, folks

[brittle pasture]

I heard atra even agreed to be Aquarium's maintainer for life

[tiny zealot]

they pulled atra out of retirement for one last mission (fixing Aquarium)

[brave fable]

i can't wait for Spade

[next plaza]

Maybe we can convince atra to do an expansion mod too

something something knitting mod

[cyan marsh]

what is easier to understand Cave Carrot or 78

[velvet narwhal]

whole new machine, with a custom ui that lets you knit anything into furniture/clothes

[brittle pasture]

I'd have both somewhere while making clear the latter is what should be used

[next plaza]

Technically cave carrot, but I feel like 78 is better for the user experience long term (since this is for mod makers)

Unless you plan on parsing and reprocessing dialogue for instance, they'd have to do stuff like [78] for giving items in dialogue anyways

[cyan marsh]

mod makers who have trouble remembering things... ease of access is paramount

i can get past that too

a simple add item button that asks you to select items.. and when you click ok, it will substitute your selections with their IDs

[tiny zealot]

ease of use is one thing, but i recommend against hiding details like this from users. it does them a disservice

[next plaza]

I mean, I get it, but I feel like having modders understand the underlying concepts is really important

[calm nebula]

Ah, yes, thirty lines of code to test a 1.6.9 feature vs an entire expansion mod lol

Differences, I see none

[cyan marsh]

they will see it

[velvet narwhal]

long term ramifications, i believe numerical is better, as much as i believe 'ease of access' is good and all, having them come 'round because they want to add in something to the npc but your creator doesn't cover it puts them 5 steps behind than they would've reading docs

[next plaza]

I could see a "item name to item ID" separate window could be useful

[cyan marsh]

the list is customizeable with the utility.. and it also provides them a comprehensive item list with their IDs

ie. A personal resource set to their specific game

so my lists can double as personal lists

[next plaza]

What do you do if two items have the same display name

(Very easy thing to do)

[brave fable]

are u going to include a button that notifies the user of the correct stone item 🪨

[brittle pasture]

(Case in point: the 4 Butters)

[cyan marsh]

not sure.. since I haven't written it yet

[next plaza]

Every time someone clicks said button, it opens this channel in discord and sends a !stone message

[cyan marsh]

sorry cat is making it hard to type xD

[tiny zealot]

my next band name

[calm nebula]

Case in point: eggs

[brittle pasture]

ah yes forgor about eggs

[next plaza]

🥚

[velvet narwhal]

this is why the void chickens spited you

[cyan marsh]

not sure.. didn't realize butter had more than one iteration now

[calm nebula]

It is required for every expansion mod

[brittle pasture]

4 butters, 3 olive oils, 4 basils

[calm nebula]

You must have your own butter

[cyan marsh]

the old NPC creator was simplistic.. so I have new things to figure

[next plaza]

It doesn't in vanilla

[velvet narwhal]

to add in a butter? shit, guess i gotta have void butter

[next plaza]

But if you're taking mods into account all bets are off (and yeah, vanilla eggs)

[tiny zealot]

adding some kind of butter is on my expansion's list under "jokes"

[velvet narwhal]

mouse butter

[cyan marsh]

i can make the list as `(name - ID) easily

I'm off for now Kat has decided that I don't need to chat anymore

[languid aurora]

(you can close the member list that's taking up the right side of your screen [two-person icon up next to search], btw, in case you didn't know [mentioned to someone the other day and blew their mind])

[cyan marsh]

I'm aware I keep it up there on purpose

[clever sinew]

good all hallows' eve to you all

I have a potentially obvious question

[velvet narwhal]

what would be an obvious question?

[clever sinew]

I am trying to make a recipe mod with new recipes using new objects

I've been trying to study other mods to try to puzzle out what this should look like

I have noticed that some folks' content.json's in the first subfolder seem to just be telling smapi/CP to include the new recipes, and then in the second subfolder are doing .json's for each individual recipe?

The question is, do I still need to include that first content.json if I don't have a config to not include?? Or am I completely misunderstanding what's happening here

[lucid mulch]

the only thing that actually matters is EditData patches, in this case for Data/Objects to add the thing, and Data/CraftingRecipes to add the recipe

[uncut viper]

you can separate things out into different .json files for organizational purposes, but they function the same. you do still need the original content.json though

[velvet narwhal]

content.json is how your mod gets read in general, you can put everything into the content.json if you so wished

[uncut viper]

a content.json in the top-most folder of your mod is required in all cases for a content patcher mod

[lucid mulch]

all content patcher packs require content.json as its the entry point

[clever sinew]

Okay, that makes sense

[uncut viper]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-include.md

this will explain the Include stuff you were seeing

[lucid mulch]

you can have everything in content.json if you want, splitting stuff out via Include is purely for organizational benefit and is not required for any functionality

[clever sinew]

So all mods have your manifest and content in the first subfolder and then further on is just different organizational styles

[uncut viper]

correct

[clever sinew]

ah okay thank you for the link and advice!

that also explains why all these mods have different structures lol

[velvet narwhal]

some people like to keep it as organized as possible, others will blow caution to the wind and put everything into content.json

if you can find it, and as long as it works it does not matter

[lucid iron]

use a editor that does validation and indentation

[lucid mulch]

some mod structures might also just be a trait of their history if they were previously using JA or other things, and when combining everything for 1.6 kept those existing hard walls

[lucid iron]

(please)

[clever sinew]

I downloaded notepad++

[lucid iron]

turn on the json extension

[velvet narwhal]

https://sourceforge.net/projects/nppjsonviewer/

[uncut viper]

i dont know when to break the news to chu that i dont use any sort of validation in my notepad++ usage. i dont even use more than two syntax colours

[lucid mulch]

(you can wrap links with <> to prevent the embed from ever happening in the first place)

[clever sinew]

[velvet narwhal]

i had a taquito in my hand, couldn't paste in the <> with my mouse

can't go through graveyards in 1.6.9, guess i'll stick it in my 1.6.8 folder

[uncut viper]

wait, what

do you mean my mod

[velvet narwhal]

yes

[uncut viper]

is it broken in 1.6.9,

[velvet narwhal]

https://smapi.io/log/7021123f4f17467e887968e25257e6b4

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.0-beta.5 with SDV 1.6.9 'beta' build 24305 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 34 C# mods and 34 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[uncut viper]

well, shit

[velvet narwhal]

don't look at me and my messy folder structure, i clicked "enable all" to see the red wall of flames

[19:37:33 TRACE SMAPI]       Loading assembly 'Pastel.dll'...
[19:37:33 TRACE SMAPI]       Detected game patcher in assembly Graveyards.dll.
[19:37:33 TRACE SMAPI]       Broken code in Graveyards.dll: reference to StardewValley.Game1.currentLightSources (field returns Dictionary`2, not HashSet`1).
[19:37:33 TRACE SMAPI]       Loading assembly 'Graveyards.dll'...```

[uncut viper]

i dunno what im even using thats changing

wha..

[brittle pasture]

light strikes again

[lucid iron]

maybe u just need to build it

[uncut viper]

i dont remember doing anything with light at all

[velvet narwhal]

is my 1.6.9 borked

refreshes it

[lucid iron]

why is it NetEvent0

[brittle pasture]

FWIW my mod is also broken and needs a 1.6.9 rebuild even though it does nothing with lights, and the worst it does is a couple Harmony postfixes on functions that are identical in 1.6.9 (EDIT: which on second thought may not be that identical)

[uncut viper]

oh my god i do do something with light

Game1.currentLightSources.Clear();

[sweet sphinx]

I also wanna make a mod about potion-making/"alchemy"

[uncut viper]

thats literally it

to get rid of the light from the torch on the wall by the ladder

[velvet narwhal]

Game1.currentLightSources = new(); zappy fingers

[uncut viper]

pretty sure that still wouldve broken

[velvet narwhal]

i go back and quote chu to put into my list of quotes

[uncut viper]

i do likely just need to rebuilt it bc im pretty sure Clear() exists on both hashsets and dictionaries

just needs to be recompiled

im just gonna hope the mods judge it on 1.6.8

[velvet narwhal]

you can preface that in the description

[uncut viper]

i will do that too but, if theyre strict about not changing the mod after the contest closes, they wont be able to download a 1.6.9 version

[velvet narwhal]

i don't know if they've started/when/what they're looking at, but yeah i'd probably just drop a "please look at my mod with the 1.6.8 lens"

[uncut viper]

and i dont think they'll be able to downgrade once 1.6.9 actually comes out

[brittle pasture]

tbh I'm almost 98% sure they'll judge 1.6.8 and only uses 1.6.9 if specifically requested

like chu's trinker thing

[velvet narwhal]

i can throw a bouncer question if you'd like

[uncut viper]

i wasnt sure what they would be juidging first (art, food, writing, etc) since they said the results would be in about a week

which will be after 1.6.9 drops

so if they did mods last, theyd be judged after 1.6.9 released

[velvet narwhal]

(i sent in a question)

[uncut viper]

i need a pufferORZ emote

[lucid mulch]

its possible via steam console, depotdownloader and others to downgrade an install back to 1.6.8, or the judges can simply not update their steam install

[velvet narwhal]

sorry i didn't tell you earlier, i was out and i didn't even get to my mod list until now

[uncut viper]

its hours past the deadline anyway so it wouldnta mattered even if you did tell me earlier, so dont sweat it

[lucid iron]

i think they r testing ur mod on 1.6.8 anyways

[velvet narwhal]

i doubt anything is broken for mine in 1.6.8 but it doesn't hurt for me to go and check

[sweet sphinx]

I am very s l o w l y working through the last half of recipe iterations for the GPF mod

[velvet narwhal]

ah yeah mothman is fine, but god i forgot verbose smapi is on

[velvet narwhal]

As long as a version that was uploaded before the end of the contest is still available for us to download and judge, that should be fine.
*a version of the mod, changes to the mod page are okay```

so just specify "only 1.6.8 please"

[uncut viper]

guess that'll have to do

[tawny axle]

Hey What channel do I type in, if I want to ask if someone can do my art work for my custom NPC i'm maikingfor my mod

[uncut viper]

i had only considered making a mod in 1.6.9 that wouldnt work in 1.6.8 when i started, i forgot about the opposite case when testing

[brittle pasture]

!commissions

[ocean sail]

If you're looking for people who do mod commissions (either art or code), here's a wiki page with a non-comprehensive list of people who do them: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions

To use this command, type !commissions.

[uncut viper]

!commissions

[ocean sail]

If you're looking for people who do mod commissions (either art or code), here's a wiki page with a non-comprehensive list of people who do them: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions

To use this command, type !commissions.

[tiny zealot]

i would like to have puffernegativeman

[velvet narwhal]

claire that is not sleeping, unless you're planning to fix your god awful sleep schedule

[round dock]

You’d wanna commission an artist for that, the link shows who may take comms

[uncut viper]

(what is negative man)

[round dock]

(it is 11am, i eep, no more lurking)

[velvet narwhal]

?

[tiny zealot]

mother 3

[uncut viper]

noted

[sweet sphinx]

I am sharing that no-context into my main server

[round dock]

(also fixing your sleeping schedule is so difficult bc one deadline and i am back to being rng owl statue) off to eep i go

[velvet narwhal]

it's what we all felt during this event, i feel

[brittle pasture]

today will be the day I go to bed at 12AM! aaand I stayed up to chat until 2 again

[velvet narwhal]

t'was a good event, but with 1.6.9 looming over us it also had to be something in the back of the mind cause it was like, "do we also need to make it compatible with 1.6.9? but some things are broken in 1.6.9"

[tiny zealot]

i like that explanation for me not doing the mod contest better than "lazy and devoid of ideas"

[brave fable]

'something looming' can be the next mod contest prompt 😌

[velvet narwhal]

"spacecore serialization broken in 1.6.9, i'm not gonna do the modding-contest, no i will not build spacecore from source"

[uncut viper]

part of me a little bit wishes i did not care about the mod contest bc it kind of torpedoed, sank, scavenged, and melted down for scrap my motivation to work on my museum framework

all the momentum i had with it has been lost completely

[round dock]

today, i had an idea but i was devoid of execution and will.

[velvet narwhal]

something will spur you back into it, probably

[round dock]

avi has to hear my wails of i cri and then finally going nope

[velvet narwhal]

claire trying to guilt trip me into making a passoutcost postfix

[lucid iron]

oh yea did u find the location context claire

i got distracted earlier

[brittle pasture]

(on the bright side in my totally not biased opinion you have this thing in lock)

[round dock]

i did until i found out i need to c# which

[lucid iron]

i dont think u do

[uncut viper]

i would be happy just gettin an honourable mention tbh. babys first modjam

[velvet narwhal]

(passoutcost is an int, set to 0 or -1, i don't think claire can make it a 50% cost)

[lucid iron]

Data/LocationContexts.json

[velvet narwhal]

if (max_passout_cost == -1)
{
                max_passout_cost = LocationContexts.Default.MaxPassOutCost;
}
int moneyToTake = Math.Min(max_passout_cost, who.Money / 10);```

[uncut viper]

passoutcost is not only -1 or 0, -1 just means its unlimited

[round dock]

(cant even guilt trip u to eep bc i cant do it myself ) it’s all good tho perhaps one day

[lucid iron]

i thought the idea was to make it free for harvey

[velvet narwhal]

(it's only 8pm for me anyway can't guilt trip me i won't sleep until 2am)

[lucid iron]

but yea -1 just means use default here, u can put 500 in the FoundByHarvey entry

[teal bridge]

Please tell me this is a Star Control reference.

[round dock]

i forgot the 0g on strings isn’t something u can alter outright on cp

[uncut viper]

unfortunately i do not know what Star Control is, i was just thinking of the ORZ emoticon

[round dock]

hence, my mod idea shall be politely buried under button’s graves for now

[velvet narwhal]

you can guilt trip me to do it in cp later

aka whenever you're done with pom flowers

[teal bridge]

That's a shame. Ah well.

[lucid iron]

harvey takes 10g

to keep the books happen

[round dock]

first i guilt trip u to fix our sleeping schedules

[velvet narwhal]

i am now off to actually experience everyone's modjam entry

[round dock]

perhaps one day, i might ping u at my threads tho i get shy when i ask questions at making mods sometimes haha

[teal bridge]

(For the record, the Orz are one of the coolest alien designs I've ever seen in a sci-fi game)

[lucid iron]

yea feel free

also i remembered what the proposed impl was

you should add a new PassOutMailData entry in front of all existing ones

conditioned on marriage to harvey

with separate mail key than the normal

and make it cost 0

[velvet narwhal]

oh i already threw a copy-paste at claire for one i already had

if it's done this way though, i'm told it doesn't have compatibility with that one custom passout user-based mod

[uncut viper]

i thought the problem was the 0g still showing up

[brittle pasture]

just throw in (PS. I have to use this standard letter format, but rest assured you won't be charged!)

like when Pierre sends you his rebates

[velvet narwhal]

just do what i do, make a scolding letter

[uncut viper]

could also just blame it on insurance purposes, needing to send you a bill but not necessarily an expensive one

[velvet narwhal]

"If you're trying to keep me on my toes, I'll have you know I passed my ABMS with flying colors! So please do take care of yourself!"

oh that's american board of medical specialties, make the equivalent for phillipines

[round dock]

funnily enough, my mod was a silly haha what if after studying insurance law 😭 but yeah it’ll politely be half buried in your graves for now

[lucid iron]

say did u try using the billed not billed part

"passedOut3_" + ((num > 0) ? "Billed" : "NotBilled")