making-mods-general

[teal bridge]

You definitely cannot get them from seed maker.

[sweet sphinx]

oh

[brittle pasture]

for a real world analogy, saffron is the most expensive crop in the world, why aren't more people growing them

[teal bridge]

Oh wait, the wiki says you can: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Sweet_Gem_Berry
I wonder if that changed at some point. But, still not very efficient considering the growing time.

[whole raptor]

I think it might have I just remember that when I was trying to move on from CFD for RomRas after 1.6 dropped there was still something that was keeping me there, but can't remember exactly what

[latent mauve]

I'm pretty sure I've gotten them from seed makers before.

in 1.6 even

[velvet narwhal]

i think the only thing that jumped out to me for CFD was the bouquet dialogue as well as the pendant dialogue, so honestly i think we're free from CFD?

[brittle pasture]

yeah you can seed maker sweet gem berry. there's almost no reason to though unless you're doing a challenge 'fill every space with sweet gem berry' run

[latent mauve]

It's just not a great option for money-making, because you can't process it into an Artisan good and it doesn't benefit from the related professions for crop price bonuses (I think), since it's not technically a Fruit or Vegetable.

[sweet sphinx]

I s2g I'm gonna make a mod where every food is edible

[teal bridge]

Since you can't use RNG manipulation to get those seeds from the seed maker, though (i.e. compared to Ancient Seeds), it would be wildly inefficient to do it that way, even once you get the greenhouse. Even with the best ferts, it still takes weeks to grow and at best you get 2 seeds for 1 crop. Covering even the whole greenhouse with that would take years of in-game play, not worth it at all.

[uncut viper]

if anything theres reason not to bc isnt the seed maker not even guaranteed to give you a seed

[brittle pasture]

hence challenge run

[latent mauve]

There's a remixed bundle that requires Sweet Gem Berry, though, so there's that.

[teal bridge]

It'd be kind of a boring challenge run tbh... lots of sleeping.

[sweet sphinx]

watering?

[acoustic summit]

Many challenge runs include lots of sleeping haha

[teal bridge]

Obviously you would use sprinklers, there wouldn't be watering. If you can afford rare seeds, you can afford sprinklers.

[latent mauve]

(Sweet Gem Berry Pie would be an interesting recipe to add in, specifically tied to the Special Order board maybe...)

[sweet sphinx]

have the bear make the special order

[teal bridge]

I guess so, but they aren't just sleeping, except for the TAS run which did all sorts of weather manipulation and other crazy stuff.

[fathom hound]

I considered having the sweet gem berry as a recipe for vanilla cooking recipes but decided against it due to how long it would take for a single ingredient

[sweet sphinx]

does getting the berry kill the plant, or is it like greenbeans?

[brittle pasture]

my hunch was "someone had already done this somewhere" and I was right lol
https://www.reddit.com/r/StardewValley/comments/1cig4bs/i_harvested_over_3100_sweet_gem_berries_in_year_2/

[teal bridge]

It's a personal choice but the more interesting challenges to me are the ones that require maximizing in-game time as opposed to real-world "speedrun" time.

[fathom hound]

It is just a single-time harvest (not kill)

[brittle pasture]

though actually pretty sure the reddit post author was cheating

[sweet sphinx]

damn

wtf is an apricot?? why is it not edible-... oh i'm on the sappling entry

[acoustic summit]

it kills the plant

[teal bridge]

Without question.

[sweet sphinx]

also, why are all the fruits 15 edibility? you'd think they'd be more with how much nutrients are in them

[rancid temple]

Probably because of how easy it is to get a bunch of them

Would cause balance issues with cooked food

[sweet sphinx]

... ah

[rancid temple]

What little precarious balance there even is

[sweet sphinx]

pineapples have 55 edibility

what is this nonsense

[brittle pasture]

though imo it's only an issue in the early game where you need all the energy you can get

[rancid temple]

Gotta get to Ginger Island before you can get those

[brave fable]

pineapples are very lategame. you seem to forget this is a game lol

the numbers don't have to make sense.

[sweet sphinx]

they make sense in the game

[rancid temple]

All numbers are made up

[brittle pasture]

even after summer year 1 I usually don't have to worry about energy
and yeah it's a game, don't think too hard about it

[tender bloom]

Personally I think the pineapples eating me back is why they are extra edible

[brittle pasture]

it's your mod, use whatever works best for you

[rancid temple]

If you really don't like it, you can always change it

[sweet sphinx]

of course

[rancid temple]

Most of my CP mods are just to tweak things I don't like lmao

[sweet sphinx]

I'm just refrencing this stuff for my gold-plated mod, where price & edibility gets increased by 10

-300 will get treated as 0 for the sake of my mod

[brave fable]

-300 is can't be eaten, and 0 is edible but nothing happens

(fairly sure)

[rancid temple]

Kind of risky, since things are usually -300 for a reason

I wonder if that would screw up seeds

[brittle pasture]

huh that's a scenario I haven't considered. though eating is right click and use is left click

[rancid temple]

Oh that's true

[brittle pasture]

I think that should be fine but dont quote me on that

[rancid temple]

I definitely play this game more by letting the parts of my brain that automatically do shit handle controls lmao

[zenith robin]

That might break when using the special ability of weapons. I am not sure though.

[brittle pasture]

yeah same it actually took me 5 seconds to recall which mouse button was eat, since I let the lizard brain handle that while playing

[sweet sphinx]

yeah, and with my mod, those -300 would turn into 10 in edibility

[rancid temple]

Well, those aren't food so they're probably safe lmao

For this case anyways

[zenith robin]

it depends on how their mod handles increasing item edibility though right?

[rancid temple]

*Would you like to eat the Galaxy Sword?*

[sweet sphinx]

I'm doing it manually

for modded items

specifically of my Gold-Plated Food mod

[rancid temple]

I would leave the -300 edibility and just increase price more to compensate, personally

[clever sinew]

I apologize for interrupting, but does anyone have a good updated tutorial on making cooking/crafting recipes for CP?

I am trying to look at other mods and learn that way but it's kind of just making my head spin 😅

[rancid temple]

I have a tutorial but I can't guarantee it's good

[clever sinew]

i mean, i'll take it

[lucid iron]

It's a big ol string

[rancid temple]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Adding_Recipes_with_CP

[velvet narwhal]

messy string

[brave fable]

ugly string

[clever sinew]

oh perfect! that's what I was looking for, thank you

[velvet narwhal]

1.7 to fix monsters/crafting/cooking/npcgifttastes, please

[calm nebula]

(Personally. I would like changes to xmlser)

[sweet sphinx]

should I do it by a multiplier then(like 1.5x or smth)? instead of an addition(+10)?

[bright panther]

I cant 😭

[clever sinew]

....did i accidentally fixate on a difficult section to mod 😭

[brittle pasture]

yes pls, my baby child (that I hate) clickCraftingRecipe can't handle any more transpilers/replacers

[brittle pasture]

not really, it's just annoying since it wasn't migrated to being a proper data model

[velvet narwhal]

no, it's fairly simple

[clever sinew]

ah okay thank goodness

[brave fable]

clickCraftingRecipe needs to be saved from the pile of transpilers

[velvet narwhal]

(hold on, i am sloshed, let me see if my git has an example of a cooking recipe)

https://github.com/Aviroen/Mycology/blob/master/data/Cooking.json

it in fact, has both, rejoice

[rancid temple]

Maybe, depends on what kind of value increase you're looking at, 10 for edibility and price is very little

[sweet sphinx]

they are coated in Gold Dust(which you get 5 from milling in the mill)

[rancid temple]

But that also changes depending on how many of these gold plated items you can expect to receive

[sweet sphinx]

one per gold dust

[clever sinew]

thank you!

[rancid temple]

What are you milling, gold ore?

[sweet sphinx]

yes

[rancid temple]

5 per ore?

[sweet sphinx]

yes

[rancid temple]

Ok so that basically doubles the value of gold ore, could math it based on how long it takes to mill but that's starting to get a little too heavy lol

[sweet sphinx]

isn't gold ore 25 price tho? each gold dust could just be 5 price?

tho I add on an extra 5 bc profit

I may be a little slow on math and numbers

[rancid temple]

Hence the doubling of the ore value

[sweet sphinx]

yee, i see now

[rancid temple]

Yeah, balance is a tough thing to deal with in this game, because it's already pretty wonky

[sweet sphinx]

so what about mill times?

[lucid iron]

would it help if game or smapi exposes a event for thingcrafted

[rancid temple]

The price increase at 10 is probably fine, since that's not a huge increase and early on you won't want to be sacrificing gold so readily

[brave fable]

no ❤️

[rancid temple]

Mill times you could definitely try to calculate what your profit per time is for smelting gold

Gotta account for the coal price

[lucid iron]

isnt the mill like

[rancid temple]

And then see how the mill stacks up

[lucid iron]

capable of processing everything

in 1 day

[rancid temple]

Like it does an entire stack in one day or something?

[lucid iron]

yea no matter how much u put inside it's always done next day

[rancid temple]

Honestly, I never build a mill lmao

[lucid iron]

but molasses

[rancid temple]

I think I've only ever had one, never used it, and have never built one since

[velvet narwhal]

i build it because i'm making an aesthetic farm, that's it

[brittle pasture]

and chicken feed

[lucid iron]

i build the mill cus it spins around and that makes me happy

[velvet narwhal]

i need more buildings with animations tbh

[rancid temple]

My chickens can eat grass and grass clippings and like it

[lucid iron]

well the system is all there

get drawing

[calm nebula]

Pathos intentionally keeps smapi somewhat streamlines

[velvet narwhal]

if i was given buildings TO draw, i would

[calm nebula]

To make his own life easier

[clever sinew]

I'm back to say that this is incredibly helpful, thank you very much

[lucid iron]

u can always make aviro's buildings

[velvet narwhal]

i don't have an aesthetic, so i'd have to figure out what i'd even want to do cause then i need to do every single part of the game

[rancid temple]

Magitek

[sweet sphinx]

Wild Horseradish, Leek, Parsnip, Green Bean, Cauliflower, Potato, Garlic, Kale, Rhubarb, Melon, Tomato, Blueberry, Hot Pepper, Radish, Red Cabbage, Starfruit, Corn, Eggplant, Artichoke, Pumpkin, Bok Choy, Yam, Cranberries, Beet, Salmonberry, Hops, Spiceberry, Grame, Spring Onion, Strawberry, Wild Plum, Hazelnut, Blackberry, Winter Root, Crystal Fruit, Snow Yam, Sweet Gem Berry, Coffee Bean, Ancient Fruit, Apple, Apricot, Orange, Peach, Pomegranate, Cherries, Ginger, Taro Root, Pineapple, Mango, Carrot, Squash, Broccoli, Powder Melon
these are the foods that can be gold plated

[rancid temple]

Just steal FF's garbo

[velvet narwhal]

stardew kugane

[lucid iron]

i think the market is currently saturated with witchy and rustic buildings

to counteract this we should invest in joja building stonks

[velvet narwhal]

there's already someone who made joja everything isn't there

[brittle pasture]

brutalism let's go

[lucid iron]

that new farm house is great

[rancid temple]

Magitek is just like steampunk, which is just witchy smashed together with rustic lmao

[lucid iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/28918

[velvet narwhal]

my civil engineer husband has a bone to pick with architects about this

[rancid temple]

Neo-futurism (no I don't know what that means)

(I'm looking at it, I don't know what it means)

Goofy sci-fi is what they should have called it

[brittle pasture]

iirc it's stuff like rayguns, ufos and The Jetsons no that's retrofuturism, I can't read

[velvet narwhal]

do we have a full cyberpunk remodel?

cause honestly i've been contemplating a neo-tokyo style for a long time

[brave fable]

how are you going to make a cyberpunk farm and small fishing village

[rancid temple]

It looks like if cybertrucks were turned into buildings

[velvet narwhal]

the grass is fake, it glitches out to reveal it's all a simulation

[lucid iron]

holograss

[rancid temple]

Grass that does the hologram fade/glitch when you walk through it sounds fucking dope

[velvet narwhal]

where's my quote

.6240

.q 6240

[patent lance]

#6240

@velvet narwhal #making-mods-art message Honestly I think you do actually have a special talent for ~~derailing ~~giving inspiration and motivation cause last time I ended up releasing a whole mod for 1000+ wallpapers after you asked one innocent question! :bongo_cat_heart: :VMVLmaoDog:

• @worn coral (Jump)

01 Oct 2024 @ 02:31:41 PM UTC

[velvet narwhal]

except i'd do it to myself, i just have to patch the grass draw

[uncut viper]

i will accept no brutalism slander here. association with joja is slander

that said i absolutely think we need more brutalism mods—

[sweet sphinx]

robo cows and chickens

[uncut viper]

you're side-eying me but its genuine its my favourite architectural style

[velvet narwhal]

i trade you then, do the c# for my draw of glitchy grass movement and i'll make farmhouse brutalism

[uncut viper]

ill decline

[sweet sphinx]

XD

[calm nebula]

...

[teal bridge]

(Yes, I've always felt that Stardew's main issue was that it wasn't depressing enough.)

[brave fable]

if you could mod the game so we just live in the concrete cubicle from the intro forever and ever i think we can call it quits

go be brutalist in The Cube

[acoustic summit]

this is a holy idea

[velvet narwhal]

isn't that already a mod

i vaguely recall something called "Never Left The Office" unless that was a hallucination

[jagged cairn]

you'll have to pry my gigantic bare concrete structures from my cold dead hands

[uncut viper]

well at least i know now to keep my brutalist aesthetic mods to myself i i ever make em i suppose

[jagged cairn]

please do share them

[velvet narwhal]

it's probably popular, but i am also not a fan of brutalism

[teal bridge]

People like to look at beautiful things. Total madness, amirite?

[brittle pasture]

hey I think brutalism is neat as well
then again I uh grew up in a country that was taught architecture in the cold war by russians

[zenith robin]

I have to admit, brutalism looks nice, but from an engineering standpoint I never want to work on something like that.

[brave fable]

in this cube we don't mention things like detail, craft, and colour 😌

texture and warmth begone

[teal bridge]

Comrade, we should all give up our cathedrals and castles and live in cold concrete boxes.

Or at least, you should.

[rancid temple]

After looking up brutalist architecture, I feel like I'm looking at Halo levels

Some of these are genuinely cool, but the flat, tall apartment buildings I could live without

[velvet narwhal]

the geisel library made my husband go, "i ain't working on something like that"

[brave fable]

you guys must really love looking at this grey square discord window in your free time

[zenith robin]

I don't blame him I don't want to work on something like that either.

[teal bridge]

I use a non-grey theme, actually.

[calm nebula]

I have spent too much of my life in buildings that could probably withstand a nuclear explosion

[rancid temple]

This looks like I'm gonna get jumped by a Dark Souls boss here

[teal bridge]

At least it's got a brick pathway; usually it would be dirt or more concrete.

[brave fable]

what're the green things on the concrete?

[rancid temple]

Probably weeds someone forgot to pull

[teal bridge]

Yeah, they really don't look like ornamentals to me.

The haphazard, untrimmed nature suggests abandonment... as rokugin said, very much warning of an incoming boss fight.

[velvet narwhal]

great inspiration for my expansion though, but not for the right reasons

[brittle pasture]

actually those are free healing items
nom nom nom

[rancid temple]

This is way cooler than the flat apartment buildings, so impractical

[velvet narwhal]

as someone who is afraid of heights, i hate that

[rancid temple]

Looks like a freakin' parkour course lmao

[teal bridge]

Ugly and extremely fragile, that's a winning combination.

Imagine it being hit by a hurricane or even like, a stiff breeze.

[rancid temple]

TBF, most things struggle with a hurricane lmao

[sweet sphinx]

greebled

[zenith robin]

I am pretty sure that the building codes would prohibit a building like that somewhere where hurricanes are not a rarity. Too much risk of damage to nearby structures.

[teal bridge]

Most permanent structures should be able to resist a low-category hurricane, earthquake, tornado, etc. Of course if it's extreme enough to uproot giant redwoods then your home ain't gonna survive either.

[tiny zealot]

i'm getting lost just looking at this (also i like looking at it. it is cool)

[teal bridge]

Skyscrapers have to deal with insane amounts of wind shear just to stand up on a clear day.

[rancid temple]

I would have to decline going inside this thing lmao, I think I'd have to climb out a window to find the exit

[teal bridge]

What amuses me the most about that photo are the apparent door-sized openings that lead to precipitous drops. Don't go out the back door!

[sweet sphinx]

I think we should build our homes into the ground

[rancid temple]

Where I live, that's insanely expensive, it's like all clay here

And basements leak like hell

[acoustic stag]

those look like windows to me but admittedly i am not an expert in worlds most inefficient minecraft house building so it could be doors

also building homes into the ground is a great idea until there is a Bug in which case. no

[rancid temple]

Actually, maybe that's why I like brutalist, it looks like something I could actually make in MC

[acoustic stag]

yeah thats so valid actually

[rancid temple]

Welcome to my new house build, it's a rectangle with no roof

[acoustic stag]

thats every minecraft house ive ever built tbf

roof calculations are the devil

[sweet sphinx]

there will always be Bug, no matter where you build

even in outter space, Bug will find you

[deep cypress]

“Fixed your spouse sometimes saying "..." instead of the intended neutral dialogue’”

I LOVE U FOREVER PATHOS AND CA AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO DID THIS!!!!

@wanton pebble remember when we worked on this for hours?

[wanton pebble]

Yep.

[mortal stag]

hey mate, if you did that I would certainly use it and hopefully be able to expand it to the rest, I have not much time for modding these days as you may have seen I have put out 0 new mods in recent months, so that may be the only way I could get it done any time soon

also who pinged in this chat lol?

[wanton pebble]

that'd be Pathos!

here

(Also same re: not putting out any new mods - but I am currently on top of making any immediate fixes needed! So I can quickly go code Abigail's for you)

[sweet sphinx]

can you have edibility lower than -300? like -400 or smth?

[tiny zealot]

probably technically, but -300 is a special value that means "inedible"

[sweet sphinx]

ah

so I can do -400 health on a food

[tiny zealot]

you can try it. i don't know what it will do

[lucid iron]

would you die

[sweet sphinx]

probably

isn't max health like 200 or smth?

[tiny zealot]

150 or so, i forget

[wanton pebble]

   {
   "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/Characters",
            "Fields": {
                "Abigail": {
                    "WinterStarGifts": [ 
                      {
                        "Id": "(O)766",
                        "ItemId": "(O)766",
                        "MinStack": 100,
                        "MaxStack": 100
                      },
                    ],
                },
                ...
            },
            },

That's your original (removing the rest of the characters as it's character-by-character edit this way). In new code, it would be

{
            "LogName": "Abigail Winter Star Gift Data",
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/Characters",
            "TargetField": [ "Abigail", "WinterStarGifts" ],
            "Entries": {
                "{{ModId}}.Slime": {
                    "Id": "{{ModId}}.Slime",
                    "ItemId": "(O)766",
                    "MinStack": 100,
                    "MaxStack": 100
                },
            },
        },

You could also use the ID as you did (i.e. matching ItemID exactly) but I find it's easier to have a descriptive entry

[rancid temple]

I think negative edibility only reduces energy

Trying to figure out if I have a mod that patches that lmao

But I don't think I do

[calm nebula]

someone should make a desert plant mod

some of these are fascinating

[mortal stag]

thanks a lot, should make it easier, i will update ASAP!

[velvet narwhal]

makes cactus juice

[rancid temple]

Tested with minimal mods installed, negative edibility indeed just reduces energy. So you can absolutely still pass out if you eat something with too high negative edibility, but with stardrops that buffer increases a bit lol

-400 edibility reduces stamina by 1000, so no staying awake there lmao

[mortal stag]

Fixed Queen of Sauce reruns being affected by the recipes needed by unclaimed farmhands in empty cabins.

Thank god

[sweet sphinx]

Lol

[sweet sphinx]

gives the insanity (de)buff

[velvet narwhal]

i would definitely do the wavy screen effect in c# and just be like, "toggle off for vertigo sufferers"

[sweet sphinx]

yee

[calm nebula]

yes

[rancid temple]

Ah, that's what I was looking for, my brain got tired and I decided to just test it lmao

[tiny zealot]

thinking about a "touch fuzzy, get dizzy" mod now, thanks a lot

[velvet narwhal]

i'm surprised there isn't already a mod that creates that as a debuff, the screen wobble effect, i know spacecore has the screenshake for events

[tiny zealot]

it would be pretty easy to implement as a shader. i think khloe's weather mod has a heat ripple effect (via shader) which is quite similar

[brave fable]

screenshake is as simple as moving the camera, there's base game methods for that. wobble is harder and doesn't already exist

[velvet narwhal]

i know what i must do, i must cause vsync tearing but in game

[tiny zealot]

it would be much harder to do without a shader. you'd have to (transpile-)patch a ton of locations in the code, i think

[velvet narwhal]

xna distortion?

[jagged cairn]

imagine being the first to intentionally create a screen tearing shader

[velvet narwhal]

i like my dramatic events, what can i say, i'd definitely dig my heels in to see if i can implement it in event code

[lucid iron]

ok i am done feature creeping myself

https://github.com/Mushymato/TrinketTinker/releases/tag/1.0.0-beta

And docs https://mushymato.github.io/TrinketTinker/

[teal bridge]

Meanwhile I've still got half a dozen full pages of documentation to write... on features that were completed weeks ago. Why must they take 10 times as long as the actual thing being documented?

Congratulations though, must feel good to be done.

[lucid iron]

i think i should probably improve the API docs and maybe think of how the C# mod api should look like

but i'll do that after getting this out the door

[old edge]

hmm why is there a 1.6.9 coming out?

[lucid iron]

anything i can help with on stardewui?

[old edge]

and wow they already have another modpocalypse coming

[lucid iron]

we knew about 1.6.9 for a while

[old edge]

im here a lot but I had asked if it was mod breaking but no answer.

so just assumed it was not

[lucid iron]

as for modpocalypse, there's a few C# things you need to fix

mainly lights and quests, the migration page describes it in detail but fastest way is to just build your current mods against 1.6.9

[uncut viper]

Is this the modapocalypse?
No. The vast majority of mods should be unaffected by the changes in 1.6.9, and SMAPI will automatically rewrite most mods that are.

[old edge]

updating mods really be incredibly difficult

[lucid iron]

naw all my transpilers survived you'll be fine

[old edge]

oh I was already building my bunker

[sweet sphinx]

question, I know this server doesn't allow nsfw(completely fair), does that count Greek statues and such? /gen

[jagged cairn]

Probably a question for @outer glacier

[sweet sphinx]

how do I use the bot? just dm or smth?

[jagged cairn]

yeah

They'll reply through the bot too

[sweet sphinx]

mk, thanks

[sweet sphinx]

is the top floor of the (normal) mine the only one that doesn't change/keeps items/objects there? could I possibly mod smth(like a shop spot) into one of the treasure/fishing floors?

[lucid iron]

you cannot without C# and even then it's painful

[sweet sphinx]

...dang

the mountain/train area?

[jagged cairn]

The trinket mod posted above adds a vendor to the mine entrance

Probably the only easier place to put them

Other than outside the mines

[dusty scarab]

no computer for a week
over a thousand posts in this channel alone

I will never catch up to what I missed XD

[sweet sphinx]

oof

TDLR of my stuff: I made alt versians of some animals, and am making gold-plated food

[lucid iron]

tbh u can just give your stuff to dwarf vendor

[sweet sphinx]

I mean, yeaaah, but would that dwarf make stone/marble statues & other decorations specifically?

[lucid iron]

i only bothered with a new vendor cus of contest

its your mod and your lore do what feels right

[sweet sphinx]

tbh he seems more like the in the mines with bombs kinda dwarf than a making beautiful stone sculptures kinda dwarf

[zenith robin]

Is there a way that I can make a building have a shadow that functions like the sign's shadow does? (Being that it is under the structure and only darkens the texture below instead of going over it.)

[sweet sphinx]

add the shadow to the sprite?

[zenith robin]

I would, but that just overrites the texture below it. I would want the shadow to change depending if it is on grass or dirt.

[brave fable]

building data entries have a "DrawShadow": true field you can set if you bake your own shadow into the sprite

you'd set yours to false, of course

[sweet sphinx]

sprites can use transparency

like, make a slightly transparent shadow

[brave fable]

are you saving as PNG with transparency? some common formats don't support alpha (jpg, gif, ..)

[zenith robin]

I completly forgot that sprites could use transparency.

That should work. ty

[sweet sphinx]

np

[teal bridge]

Docs, or code? I have yet to start anything in milestone 3 yet, so that's all wide open: https://github.com/focustense/StardewUI/milestone/3

Docs maybe aren't as bad as I thought at first glance; after the page I'm working on, there's only 3 more that can be written before the M3 features are finished. Just gotta keep grinding away. Definitely open to contributions on either end if you can make sense of what's there.

[lucid iron]

i will attempt to fix the bug i noticed previously

[teal bridge]

You mean the grid one, #20?

[lucid iron]

yea that one, and these 2

• splitscreen p2 focus search is very borked rn, suspect i just need to detect split screen and half viewport width before measure
• full screen overlay do not take clicks - machine mod released with a local workaround for this but ill do the bounds caching thing

is it fine if i put all 3 things in 1 PR

[teal bridge]

It's better to have them separate, but if they're all 1-line changes or something very small then it's OK if they're together.

[lucid iron]

ok 3 PR then, i'll open issue for these other 2 as well

[teal bridge]

Full-screen overlays take clicks - are you talking about the thing where scroll bars were considered out of bounds?

[lucid iron]

yea, and floatingelements

the temp solution was this https://github.com/Mushymato/StardewUI/commit/b6c2ed0fea6a810750b0084c8b6dd91f48310c7c

[teal bridge]

(which scroll bars are)

Yes I remember, just confirming it was the same one.

[lucid iron]

actually hm, im not really sure what is up with the split screen thing

it was draw menu correctly, so measure is fine

[teal bridge]

First I've heard of it.

[lucid iron]

just basically impossible to navigate with controller

i'll try to reproduce now and send details in thread

[teal bridge]

Maybe some state needs to be per screen? Although activeClickableMenu should already be.

[sweet sphinx]

I'll say, one thing that I miss from MC modding, is making the little icons for the mod to use in-game, sure there's GMCM, but it doesn't show pics

[old edge]

Finally finished my first farm map

It took approximately 3 weeks

[fathom hound]

Congrats!!!

Weird question, is it possible to have crops grow only at night with CP? For example, I’ll have a crop ready to harvest on this day, but it will be ready at 7 pm.

[drowsy pewter]

no it is not

[fathom hound]

Thank you!

[uncut viper]

SpaceCore has a TimeChanged trigger and Cloudy Skies has a GrowCrops action

[next plaza]

If you’re making a c# mod you can add pictures to your GMCM page. CP just doesn’t provide a way to do that

[uncut viper]

you could probably do something with those

[brave fable]

yeah you can do crazy things in gmcm menu pages with images and scene builds. i went ham on advanced draw for love of cooking

[fathom hound]

Ohh, I’m not too familiar with Cloudy Skies

Doesn’t look too hard to follow on the GitHub

[uncut viper]

ive never used it either, but according to the documentation you can grow crops, optionally using a GSQ to filter which ones are affected, in different locations (All/Here/Outdoors/radius around the player/specific rectangle/etc)

[fathom hound]

That’s very cool. I’d like to make night-time only crops

[lucid iron]

boo-pumpkin

[uncut viper]

im thinking you could maybe set the growth time of your crop to be double what you actually want it to be. it'll grow once every night you sleep by default, but then you can grow it a second time at 7pm, making it effectively half the growth time (and thus what you actually want it to be)

the reason i think you need to double it is in case you go to bed before 7pm, i think

you'd probably want to set a mail flag at 7pm saying "the player got to 7pm today" and if the player doesnt have that mail flag the following morning, grow the crops again in a daystarted trigger action

(and if they do have the mail flag, dont do that, just remove the mail flag so that it can be reset for this new day)

[fathom hound]

Thanks Button - I’ll definitely try this

[uncut viper]

(if you set it to the normal growth time then the problem there is that theres no way to prevent it from growing once more overnight if you ARE up atr 7pm, bc afaik theres no "UngrowCrops" action in Cloudy Skies or any other mod im aware of)

[fathom hound]

Ahhhhh I see what you mean

[uncut viper]

the only thing i dont know how id handle is not doing the GrowCrops action if the tile was unwatered, but... maybe thats just not too big a deal anyway bc who doesnt water their crops yknow. it'd still halve the growth speed

[fathom hound]

Hmmm true

[brave fable]

giant crops don't need their tiles watered to grow, do they? it's not unheard of

[uncut viper]

by then theyre already grown, though, so it doesnt matter

[fathom hound]

The middle one needs water if they’re fully grown but not a giant crop yet

So you’d still need sprinklers if you’re aiming for a giant

[uncut viper]

crops do not need to be watered at all to become giant

(once they are already grown)

[fathom hound]

Hmm I don’t remember that

[uncut viper]

the top left tile is the one thats checked anyway

[fathom hound]

At the start of each day, every possible 3x3 grid of crops (including overlaps) has a 1% chance to grow into a giant crop as long as the top left crop is fully-grown and watered, and all constituent crops are of the same type.

Top left needs the water, not the middle, my mistake

[uncut viper]

hmm
maybe it was amod i was usin in 1.5 then cuz i definitely just abandon my fields without water after like year 3 when i just wanna get a buncha giants

(i have not gotten to year 3 since then...)

[fathom hound]

Lol nice

I knew it

[uncut viper]

though, looking at the code, i dont see where it actually checks whether the tile is watered

[fathom hound]

1.6: Giant Crops now require the top left crop of the 3x3 grid to be watered, instead of the center crop.

I knew I wasn’t insane

[brave fable]

what an oddly specific change

[fathom hound]

Right? Lol

[uncut viper]

probably just made the for loop easier

[lucid iron]

is there any way to cheat in a giant crop

[uncut viper]

do you mean without altering the chance

[lucid iron]

i just want to spawn one

so i can bonk it

[brave fable]

they're very satisfying to hit. big fan of the cromch noise ca got for it

[uncut viper]

the chance for a crop to grow into a giant one is seeded using the tile its on (plus other daily unchanging things) and the rng is recreated every day its checked so you'd have to manually do it i think

[fathom hound]

Is there a way to add a specific type of water/watering can and make use crops grow with that specific kind of water only?

Example: strange crops using only holy water

[brave fable]

is there a way? of course. does it involve disgusting amounts of weird and specific c#? of course

[fathom hound]

Gotcha

I need to get on that then

[lucid iron]

cant believe im waiting for crops to grow in the crop growing game

[uncut viper]

(also i did just change the chance of a giant crop to 100% and grew it without any tiles being watered)

[fathom hound]

That may possibly be a bug then LOL cause it sounds like that’s not supposed to be

[brave fable]

you can subclass tool to look and act however you like. i've got one that's a pair of fists that makes you bounce. the world is your oyster

[uncut viper]

the relevant loop is in Crop.newDay and theres just no check for watered status at all

[fathom hound]

But tbh, I think it makes more sense not needing water so I won’t report it on forum muahahahaha

[uncut viper]

where did you even find that changelog item? its not on the version history wiki page

[vague acorn]

Hey! I think I know what’s your issue, from looking at milkable sheep’s code.

They don’t use the target fields, but set their own values to the sheep, which can override other values, especially since their priority is late

Also good morning everyone!

[brittle pasture]

yeah, you need to load an empty field for them

[fathom hound]

That’s awesome!

[uncut viper]

that giant crop changelog thing isnt on the official changelog post either

[brittle pasture]

I'll fix it by having EAC also load empty fields for every animal in game

so you can use Fields and TargetField

[vague acorn]

Perfect then!

[fathom hound]

[[Crops#History]]

[empty radish]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Crops#History

[brittle pasture]

in the next version which needs 1.6.9

[lucid iron]

i wanted to make iridium scythe able to harvest giant crops

do you think that is too op

maybe i need to gate it after an enchantment

[fathom hound]

I have so many ideas for Halloween mods but it all needs C# so far

[fathom hound]

That would be cool tbh

Since scythes don’t have enchants

[lucid iron]

they do (in my mod)

[vague acorn]

I wonder, do we have actual names for the unused meat sprites?

[rain basalt]

junk food

[brave fable]

the unused meat sprites are only referred to by number on the wiki, and those numbers don't have entries in even the SDV1.4 object data file

[vague acorn]

oh i see, well, time to guess them! XD

[rancid temple]

@ivory plume https://smapi.io/log/75958a54f2234cae8e0cc765066ae35f
Error when opening the wallpaper and flooring catalogue, looking at the Data/Shops entry for Catalogue, the PerItemCondition field of Wallpaper under Items is incorrectly formatted

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.0-beta.5 with SDV 1.6.9 'beta' build 24303 on Microsoft Windows 10 Pro, with 8 C# mods and 1 content packs.

[rancid temple]

Meant to look at this like a week ago

[vague acorn]

should I add some more ingredients to this? steak would probably function as a base like fried eggs

[dusty scarab]

I like garlic with my steaks, but that's a personal taste thing

[vague acorn]

ooh garlic with steak is tasty indeed

[hard fern]

huh, i just realized salt and pepper don't exist

[brave fable]

some JA mods added them as distinct ingredients, loc 2 has them as a basic seasoning item

otherwise you're using qi's secret sauce

[rancid temple]

I've always thought Qi seasoning being just plain salt is very funny

[vague acorn]

i actually wanted to try and add salt and pepper as seasonings XD

[brave fable]

the game doesn't actually let you add new seasonings like qi seasoning very easily, but at least loc does lol

[vague acorn]

I have the power of code and C# on my side

https://tenor.com/view/i-have-the-power-of-god-and-anime-on-my-side-attack-gif-1916296513622050090

[brave fable]

and just like that, another transpiler was thrown into clickCraftingRecipe

[vague acorn]

Too late for that XD

The cooking skill needs xp somehow

[woeful lintel]

The discord app sucks, it tells me I got pinged but no idea how to check it, and the search tool is utterly broken...

So if someone pinged me, do it again

[velvet narwhal]

should be the inbox thing, but it was probably pathos

#making-mods-general message

[brave fable]

yes pathos, do it again you know you wanna

[woeful lintel]

that was it, thanks

discord ping system really isn't built for such channels

[brave fable]

its own channels? i believe it

[woeful lintel]

yeah (I meant very active channels, but the statement still holds by itself)

damn, I just noticed that it's possible to attach a light to a TemporaryAnimatedSprite, I hope no ones uses FF particles in depth cuz I don't want to add this...

[brave fable]

i'm sure it's perfectly simple to add if you like. copy the paths implementation for basic lights, add optional field to your model, add to TAS constructor params, done

[woeful lintel]

I don't want to add fields... it means more documentation, examples and updating the schema... Also I still have so much stuff to do

[final arch]

Notification tab in the app at the bottom or the Inbox top right, next to the search bar on desktop

[woeful lintel]

Uh, literally never used or even seen that before

[brave fable]

pair of cute

[vague acorn]

That’s cute

Why does it look like a Japanese shrine at the back?

[brave fable]

im not sure actually

[hard fern]

🤔

[spice inlet]

It kind of looks like a Saisen box

[timid plover]

Are there any tools to convert mods to Fashion Sense without making a billion manual edits?

[tender bloom]

There’s a converter I made for vanilla style layout of pants to FS pants

!converters

[ocean sail]

A lot of converter tools have been made by helpful members of the community to update outdated mods or convert existing mods to modern or alternative frameworks, and for 1.6. Here's a list:

• Convert XNB mods to Content Patcher
• Convert pants/skirt spritesheets to Fashion Sense
• Convert Custom Furniture mods to DGA/1.6 Content Patcher
• Convert visual Content Patcher mods to Alternative Textures
• Convert BFAV mods to work with 1.6 Content Patcher
• Convert TMXLoader mods to 1.6 Content Patcher
• Convert Custom Music mods to 1.6 Content Patcher
• Convert Shop Tile Framework mods to 1.6 Content Patcher
• Convert hair spritesheets and JSON Assets shirts & hats to Fashion Sense
• Convert regular Content Patcher to i18n format
• Convert JSON Assets to Content Patcher
• Convert fish data from field names to slash delimited values
• Convert markdown text to Nexus' bbcode
• Convert Custom Ore Nodes and Custom Resource Clumps mods to Item Extensions Framework
• Convert Content Patcher Animations to SpaceCore
• Convert More than Necessary to Content Patcher
• Convert SAAT to Content Patcher

To use this command, type !converters.

[tender bloom]

There’s a shirt and hats one too

[fossil osprey]

You can see all ping in the "notification" tab, at the very bottom of the screen when on channel/server selection
I should read channels before answering and pinging people

[brave fable]

hi @ivory plume, is it too late to ask if the three methods on StardewValley.BellsAndWhistles.Bird (Draw, Update, FlyToNewPoint) could be made virtual

think of the possibilities. we could have pigeons

[timid plover]

Perfect, thank you!

[finite ginkgo]

(I absolutely love the mental image of you going "I want pigeons... Oh! I know what to do. (yells across the house [the modding channel]) Hey Pathos can we make these methods virtual")

[brave fable]

i have bird needs

[finite ginkgo]

No i understand, sometimes you just have needs

I personally have junimo needs, and that's why i'm working on junimo npcs

[lucid iron]

Birb good

[finite ginkgo]

If I dont scratch the junimo need they will not leave my brain (they've been stuck in there for over a year)

[calm nebula]

You don't need that

[merry jacinth]

@brave fable Hello, first of all, I'm really sorry if it's rude to mention you directly on the Discord board. Regarding the distribution of LOC Alpha 6.0 translation files, I left comments and messages on Nexus Mode and Discord, But I didn't got any reply, and I found you here, the mods board. If you check the comments I left, please reply. I'm also sorry if it sounds rather strange because I'm not good at English.

[calm nebula]

No critter hits anywhere in xmlser

You can create your own class perfectly fine there

[finite ginkgo]

(speaking of: today's the 1 year anniversary of my brain worms junimos that haven't left my brain since's 1 year nexus release anniversary)

[sweet sphinx]

I am sadly not doing a c# mod, just cp ones

[vague acorn]

what is the % of people that make sdv mods that do c# mods actually?

that seems like an interesting topic of discussion XD

[tiny zealot]

is it even knowable (in practical terms)

[zenith robin]

I think it really just depends on what type of mods are being made. I tend to do stuff in Content Patcher unless I need C#.

[vernal crest]

You could maybe do a really, really rough approximation by looking at the monthly stat dump of mod type breakdown (and I do mean really rough).

[zenith robin]

I mean, technically we could get an estimate by going through all the nexus mods, and getting the authors name and whether it need c# or not, but I don't think anyone has the time or want to do that.

[finite ginkgo]

you could technically iterate over a mod dump, check for # of unique Authors, and then check for the # of unique Authors who have at least one mod with an EntryDll

[zenith robin]

That would be in interesting idea, especially if we went over multiple months of data.

[finite ginkgo]

it wouldn't give a 100% accurate result because people may have changed their author name during their modding journey, there's some collab projects where the author name is X and Y that would count as a separate author (technically you could account for that but it's not really worth it), etc

[calm nebula]

My favorite is SVE which currently lists four names

[hard fern]

If I make a C# mod id count towards that statistic too 🤭

[sweet sphinx]

I wanna look into FS eventually, there's not many furry mods(tho there is the Animals and Myths Pack, which is really good), but I can't find any that add muzzles, and I'd like to make a custom 4 ear accessory

[woeful lintel]

i like clicking on a message in the search results, and discord sends me halfway there

such good software

[sweet sphinx]

yeah...

[zenith robin]

I mean, atleast the search result showd up.

[hard fern]

Discord is a functional messaging app 👍

[woeful lintel]

true

[sweet sphinx]

ok, so, finally got all the objects implimented, how do I add a big craftable?

[brittle pasture]

Data/BigCraftables

[tender bloom]

Mostly the same as an object but in Data/BigCrafyabkes or whatever it’s called again

[brittle pasture]

Data/BigCrabbyCakes

[tender bloom]

Selph is better at spelling than me

[brittle pasture]

Also the corresponding wiki page: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Items#Big_craftables

[sweet sphinx]

where is "StardewValley.Object"?

[brittle pasture]

did you decompile the code

[sweet sphinx]

the unpacking?

[brittle pasture]

!decompile

[ocean sail]

If you want to make SMAPI mods with C#, one important resource is decompiling the game to read the game code. Here's how to do it: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#How_do_I_decompile_the_game_code.3F

To use this command, type !decompile.

[vernal crest]

No, decompiling the C# the game uses

[hallow prism]

you don't need to see the code for most CP modding

don't care about the code part

you want to look at the data, and you have info about where the data is

[sweet sphinx]

so how do I make the BC make things?

[brittle pasture]

That's in Data/Machines

[sweet sphinx]

ah

[brittle pasture]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Machines

BigCraftables for the objects themselves, Machines for the rules

[sweet sphinx]

thanks

[lucid iron]

your machine is similiar to furnance i think

[sweet sphinx]

yee

does anyone have a blank I can copy?

I tried to copy from Machines, but VS just spat so many errors at me about commas T^T

[vernal crest]

Just download a mod that has a custom machine in it

[brittle pasture]

obligatory what editor are you using and whether it has a JSON validator plugin

[sweet sphinx]

I'm using Visual Studio

[brittle pasture]

It should have highlighting at least right (I don't use it personally)

[sweet sphinx]

it does, but no matter what I do, there's still errors

take a comma away, other error happens

readd the comma, tells me to remove it

[brittle pasture]

As usual if you need help feel free to post stuff at smapi.io/json
also seconding aba's suggestion of reading from a mod that adds machines. Cornucopia Artisan Machines have a bunch of examples of both adding new machines and editing vanilla ones

[sweet sphinx]

this is even more confusing

[lucid iron]

Can you tell us what the errors say

[sweet sphinx]

no errors, I'm just lost in trying to understand what any of this means/does, I'm looking at the wiki, but looking at vanilla and Cornucopia Artisan Machines, only makes this confusing

[velvet narwhal]

you're looking at the actual data/machine too right? machines run off of a lot of things at once
if you want to edit a vanilla one that requires the targetfields because you need to dig into deeper lists

but if you wanna make a brand new one i'd just find a similar machine in vanilla and see if you can get it to do what you want it to do

[sweet sphinx]

I'm basically trying to copy the furnace, but idk which one it is in the Machines.json

[quaint moss]

I'm making a personal mod targeting the Ridgeside falls shops and I can't get the syntax for editing specific entries right for the life of me. Any help?{ "Action": "EditData", "Target": "Data/Shops", "TargetField": ["RSVMysticFalls1", "Owners", "None"], "Priority": "Late + 100", "Entries": { "Items": [ { "Id": "Rafseazz.RSVCP.FriendFallsItem15", "ItemId": "(W)Rafseazz.RSVCP_The_Prankster", "Condition": "PLAYER_HAS_SEEN_EVENT Current 75160085, PLAYER_FRIENDSHIP_POINTS Current Keahi 2500, !PLAYER_HAS_MAIL Current mod.weaponbought Any", "TradeItemId": "(O)Rafseazz.RSVCP_Spiritual_Essence", "TradeItemAmount": 100 "ActionsOnPurchase": [ "AddMail Current mod.weaponbought now", ], }, ], }, },

[brittle pasture]

(BC)13
For future reference: https://mateusaquino.github.io/stardewids/

[velvet narwhal]

selph beat me to it

[sweet sphinx]

thanks

[velvet narwhal]

you're trying to add an item? because your targetfields is currently in the owners section and not the shop entries section

[quaint moss]

No, editing an item to make it more expensive + only purchasable once. I've tried every combination of targetfields stuff I could think of, and the closest I ever got to anything resembling success was deleting all the other shop entries which is not what I want

[velvet narwhal]

targetfield is effectively like tabbing through a book's chapters if that makes sense, and each field is a chapter
so if you wanted to edit only one specific item, you have to dig with targetfield like: "RSVMysticFalls1", "Items", "ItemId"

[sweet sphinx]

this is right? do I need the (O) parts for my mod items?

[velvet narwhal]

(O) is object, yes

[quaint moss]

Nope, still not working{ "Action": "EditData", "Target": "Data/Shops", "TargetField": ["RSVMysticFalls1", "Owners", "None", "Items", "Rafseazz.RSVCP_The_Prankster"], "Priority": "Late + 100", "Entries": { "Id": "Rafseazz.RSVCP.FriendFallsItem15", "ItemId": "(W)Rafseazz.RSVCP_The_Prankster", "Condition": "PLAYER_HAS_SEEN_EVENT Current 75160085, PLAYER_FRIENDSHIP_POINTS Current Keahi 2500, !PLAYER_HAS_MAIL Current mod.weaponbought Any", "TradeItemId": "(O)Rafseazz.RSVCP_Spiritual_Essence", "TradeItemAmount": 100, "ActionsOnPurchase": [ "AddMail Current mod.weaponbought now", ], }, }, I keep getting yellow "the field 'RSVMysticFalls1' > 'Owners' > 'None' > 'Items' doesn't match an existing target" errors, probably misunderstanding something fundamentally here

[velvet narwhal]

delete the owners/none

you're trying to look for chapter 7 inside of chapter 2 if that makes sense

[quaint moss]

Finally got it working, thanks a ton

[sweet sphinx]

can I make my machine bark?

[velvet narwhal]

i mean, technically yes

  {
    "Id": "Default",
    "Condition": null,
    "Sounds": [
      {
        "Id": "furnace",
        "Delay": 0
      }
    ],```

[sweet sphinx]

that's amazing

[velvet narwhal]

i don't remember what the dog bark soundID is

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CpDrw23peQiq-C7F2FjYOMePaYe0Rc9BwQsj3h6sjyo/edit?gid=1082266757#gid=1082266757 you're free to find out though

[sweet sphinx]

i'm p sure it's just "bark"

I was working on a dog a couple days back

[sweet sphinx]

I dont think this sheet has sounds in it

[velvet narwhal]

it does, first tab

[sweet sphinx]

oh

"dog_bark"

[sweet sphinx]

I'm not seeing any places to put the non-working and working textures/sprites into anywhere in this code, how does the game know which to use?

[dim yew]

What’s maximum move speed for the speed command in events? 🤔

[finite ginkgo]

I imagine the integer limit

[dim yew]

thats odd

[velvet narwhal]

wdym working/nonworking, it's under load/working effects

[sweet sphinx]

ah

still doesn't have textures stated tho

[velvet narwhal]

under temporary sprites for a different object i'm seeing tilesheets\animations

  {
    "Id": "Default",
    "Condition": null,
    "Texture": "TileSheets\\animations",
    "SourceRect": {
      "X": 0,
      "Y": 1920,
      "Width": 64,
      "Height": 64
    },
    "Interval": 50.0,
    "Frames": 4,
    "Loops": 10,
    "PositionOffset": "0, -4",
    "Flicker": false,
    "Flip": false,
    "SortOffset": 0.0,
    "AlphaFade": 0.005,
    "Scale": 0.25,
    "ScaleChange": 0.0,
    "Rotation": 0.0,
    "RotationChange": 0.0,
    "Color": null
  }
]```

[sweet sphinx]

but is that the full item sprite, or like the furnace, the weird fireball that pops up?

[velvet narwhal]

i don't know what craftable is 64x64 but this is where you would make it do it's animations like the jiggle of a furnace

[sweet sphinx]

I looked at the animations spritesheet, it's the furnace's fireball

[velvet narwhal]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Machines

ShowNextIndexWhileWorking
ShowNextIndexWhenReady    (Optional) Whether to show the next sprite in the machine's spritesheet while it's processing an item (ShowNextIndexWhileWorking) or ready (ShowNextIndexWhenReady). Default false.```

[fathom hound]

is it possible to make food items without needing a recipe for them??

example: i want a candy in the game as a giftable/eatable food item but i dont want a recipe requirement for it

[velvet narwhal]

how would the player replicate it?

or do you want it to be like the golden pumpkin where it's given out sparsely

[fathom hound]

buying it from a festival stall

yes

[velvet narwhal]

just an object and a shop entry then

[fathom hound]

ah nice, it doesnt need to be in cooking category in order for it to be an ingestable item?

[velvet narwhal]

i just copy paste from actual food items tbh

[next plaza]

Just needs an edibility value

[fathom hound]

sweet thanks both!

excited to launch my halloween mod tonight then

[vague acorn]

i cannot change at what index an item is inserted using TargetField right?

[vernal crest]

I have a food item that is only obtainable through dialogue

[fathom hound]

oh that's super cool!!

[vernal crest]

Thanks ^_^

[velvet narwhal]

i don't understand the context of this

[sweet sphinx]

hmmm, what is it using as it's texture, and how do I change that?

[hard fern]

Looks like unused springobjects item

[sweet sphinx]

ah

well, I can't place it either, wtf

[hard fern]

It doesn't look like it's actually a big craftable?

[sweet sphinx]

trying again

[tender bloom]

Error texture

That’s the index 0 sprite on springobjects

Which is sometimes used as a fallback

How sure are you it’s a big xraftable?

[sweet sphinx]

(btw, am I spelling "plater" right? as in, something that plates with gold?)

[hard fern]

Yes

[tender bloom]

Seems right

[sweet sphinx]

i forgot to change Data/Objects to Data/BigCraftables

[tender bloom]

The fallback for big craftables should be the big craftables sheet which is why we think it’s an object

[sweet sphinx]

well, now I can place it, but I can't put stuff in

[hard fern]

Did you set it up so that it functions as a machine

[tender bloom]

Data/MachineRules?

Or whatever the asset name is again

[velvet narwhal]

Data/Machines

[sweet sphinx]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/7faa25c4a1cf4c0ab1ecd6a7bb6112a2

it's only got one rescipe rn, just so i can get it working, but it'll have 53 by the end

[velvet narwhal]

iirc the data/machine needs (BC){{ID}} right?

same exact id as the data/bigcraftable

[sweet sphinx]

so, like this?
"(BC){{ModId}}_GoldPlater": {

[velvet narwhal]

data/machine (left) data/bigcraftable (right)

[sweet sphinx]

it works!

now to wait and see if it spits out a gold plated horseradish

YES!

[fathom hound]

grats!!

will never forget that feeling of having your first mod ever work for the first time

am i missing any important fields here?

(these items will only be obtainable through npc dialogue + sold at a stall during an event)

[velvet narwhal]

i don't think gift tastes is a field in objects?

[vernal crest]

Blehh that reminds me I need to find a way to make mine ungiftable

[fathom hound]

i do want them giftable though

[velvet narwhal]

"CanBeGivenAsGift": true,

no i mean, it's not a valid field in objects

[fathom hound]

oh i see

[velvet narwhal]

you'll have to manually add them in with targetfield, hold on i pull up the copy paste

[fathom hound]

i guess i didnt need that for my other mod since it had a Cooking category and those are automatically giftable items

[velvet narwhal]

https://github.com/Aviroen/Mycology/blob/master/data/GiftTastes.json

[fathom hound]

does it look like this?

oh yay thanks avi!

[vernal crest]

Is that in the code somewhere? It's not on the wiki and it's not in Data/Objects

[velvet narwhal]

should be in data/objects

right underneath artifactspotchances

[sweet sphinx]

mine for example

[tender bloom]

Maybe a newer unpack

[vernal crest]

Maybe it's a 1.6.9?

[velvet narwhal]

oh, it's 1.6.9

[sweet sphinx]

line 1347

[velvet narwhal]

neat

[tender bloom]

I feel like maybe this was added so you can stop handing people prize tokens

[fathom hound]

sweet

[vernal crest]

Well, I need it for tomorrow so that isn't ideal haha

[velvet narwhal]

sorry, i always look at my 1.6.9 unpack

[fathom hound]

no thats great!

thats good to know, thank you

[sweet sphinx]

wait, how do I have it then?

I only have the 1.6.8 version of stardew

[vernal crest]

No problem Avi

[velvet narwhal]

i do actively have the other folder i just uh, renamed it to "stardew 1.6.8" and my go-to is quite literally just "Content (unpacked)"

[fathom hound]

same

[vernal crest]

Was your screenshot of your own mod json or the Objects.json from your Content (Unpacked) folder?

[sweet sphinx]

do I even need to update any of my code then, if you've been giving me 1.6.9 code??

[velvet narwhal]

it's there in 1.6.8 though too so that's weird that yours doesn't have it aba

[velvet narwhal]

no, it's all the same

[sweet sphinx]

my own mod, i got it from A-Sauroen

[velvet narwhal]

the only things that differ are npc-specific dialogue keys

[velvet narwhal]

tbf i have been linking you directly from the wiki

[sweet sphinx]

nono, the object code you pasted into the chat

and then the animal code you linked to your own thing

[vernal crest]

Hmmm if my date modified is to be believed, I haven't unpacked since 1.6.6

[velvet narwhal]

well that makes sense

[vernal crest]

I'd better unpack and see

[velvet narwhal]

major field additives haven't changed between 1.6.8 and 1.6.9, but considering 1.6.9 is in like, 5 days, having your code up to snuff isn't a bad thing

[sweet sphinx]

gods I do not want to add all 52 more rescipes

[vernal crest]

Huh, CanBeGivenAsGift was added in 1.6.6. I haven't even got that! I've been on 1.6.5. Oops

[sweet sphinx]

how do I add a rescipe to the (vanilla) mill?

[velvet narwhal]

is that buildings

data/buildings

then targetfield dig into itemconversions

[vernal crest]

Thank you Avi that CanBeGivenAsGift saves me so much fruitless work

[velvet narwhal]

i need a pufferconstructionhelmet for the amount of times we suggest targetfield digging

i will be the change i wish to see in the world, i pull out the tablet

[sweet sphinx]

how do I do this?

[tender bloom]

Go one level deeper

[velvet narwhal]

same way you did your red chickens

[tender bloom]

Like if you want to access something that’s nested

[sweet sphinx]

like this?

[velvet narwhal]

target mill, then target itemconversions

"Mill", "ItemConversions"

i will brb for a little while, chores just flopped in my lap

[sweet sphinx]

@rancid temple, so, looking at the wiki, you can change how much can be produced each day, so it can be not the whole stack, but a set amount

[vague acorn]

added some fun continuity to my cooking mod.

basically, Joja has a monopoly on selling meats around Pelican Town, and that is why you can only get meat from them.
but when you complete the community center, Pierre starts selling meats as well, since they are out.

[sweet sphinx]

ooo~

[fathom hound]

do i need a type and category for objects?

[calm nebula]

Yes

[fathom hound]

I have a food item but I don't want a cooking requirement for it, how would I format that?

[hard fern]

Just an object

Make it edible

[lucid iron]

you can use spacecore for custom categories

[fathom hound]

i dont want a custom category, would just prefer none tbh

[vague acorn]

you need to inject into the cooking recipes

[lucid iron]

though imo its fine to have something that is cooking but you cant cook it yourself

[fathom hound]

Oh ok, that wont make a cooking/recipe requirement for 100% then right?

[lucid iron]

and u can use spacecore to give it some fun category like "snack"

[hard fern]

:3 now this makes me want to use spacecore to do that

[sweet sphinx]

snackies

[fathom hound]

I wanted to make a trick or treat category but i also have items that villagers may give that's vanilla so i figured its just best i do Cooking but without the requirement needed

so just making sure I wont need any recipe of sorts but its also ok to be a cooking item

thanks all

[sweet sphinx]

https://smapi.io/log/b63863ce3317446e9a1514af5809daf2
hmmmm

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.0.8 with SDV 1.6.8 build 24119 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 9 C# mods and 4 content packs.

[sweet sphinx]

wait, ok I see where I messed up

https://smapi.io/log/bb79ae5132804e5183f35d07ada23765
ok, now I'm stumped

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.0.8 with SDV 1.6.8 build 24119 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 9 C# mods and 4 content packs.

[sweet sphinx]

https://smapi.io/json/none/f6a1c6de3e674608be045c61822436e8
this is my mill file

[lucid iron]

your entries is incorrect

it must always be "entries": {"someid": {}}

even if you only got 1 thing

[fathom hound]

Do I need that /Cooking/ part in there?

[finite ginkgo]

If that's what your target is called, yes

[fathom hound]

it was just {{ModId}}/sourslimes

ill take it out, tyty

[sweet sphinx]

thanks

[tawny bough]

Question about replacing sprites and portraits: What would cause the code in content.json to work for one character but not another even when the code looks identical? I made a mod that swapped out Abigail's sprites and portrait, then copied/pasted it when I added the sprites and portraits I made for Caroline, just changed the file names to her files. When I run the game, Abigail's sprites still change but Caroline's don't acknowledge the mod at all.

[lucid iron]

!json a lot of things could cause it we wouldnt know without inspecting

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[tawny bough]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/ddbf7062fe1d4d049c5a74bf36bcbae8

I literally just copied the exact code from Abigail

[lucid iron]

all the Assets/Caroline* images exist?

[tawny bough]

Yep, I even tried freshly copying them into the folder

[velvet narwhal]

well, all of your targets for caroline have .png in it, which makes it invalid

[rain basalt]

foudn the error

remove .png from targets

[tawny bough]

Oh the Target field oop

Thanks

[rain basalt]

lol guess A-Sauroen beat me to it

[sweet sphinx]

I think this is the longest name in the mod

[rain basalt]

is that a challenge lol

[sweet sphinx]

no?

this is my mod, i'm p sure that's the longest name in it

[rain basalt]

you could reduce it with Golden Wild Horseradish

[sweet sphinx]

no

bc there's more than just that one

[rain basalt]

ah

[sweet sphinx]

including gold plated pumpkin

[rain basalt]

60g seems cheap though lol ^..~

[sweet sphinx]

gold dust is 5g, gold ore is 25g, you get 5 dust per ore. gold plating something increases it's price by 10g

[fathom hound]

(Has anyone updated the wiki with this, btw?)

[velvet narwhal]

it might be in the 1.6 migration?

it seems to have been eaten in the void

[rain basalt]

not sure if its just 1.6 but 1.6.9 beta its in data/objects

yah not seeing it in 1.6 unpack so its added after but definatly in 1.6.9

you get this in 1.6
"ContextTags": [
"not_giftable"
],

[fathom hound]

it was confirmed 1.6.6 iirc

[rain basalt]

k i have a file gap lol had RL issues so i only have 1.6.9 and 1.6 to reference ^.~

[velvet narwhal]

i'll probably throw it into the wiki but i'm just double checking what it defaults to

[rain basalt]

probably true

[uncut viper]

it defaults to true

[velvet narwhal]

looks like canbetrashed is the same

[fathom hound]

would i even need it as a field then?

[velvet narwhal]

no, but if you want it to be a different loved/liked you'd still do the npcgifttastes edit

[fathom hound]

okay thank you!

hmm why is it red lining me?

[uncut viper]

standard json doesnt allow comments

[fathom hound]

ohh didnt know that thanks

[uncut viper]

its fine for stardew modding and smapi and content patcher. just not standard json

[fathom hound]

thank you

[rain basalt]

you can change to ignore

[fathom hound]

how can i do that?

[rain basalt]

file/ properties

[fathom hound]

thank you!!

[rain basalt]

preferecen sorry

sec trying to remeber lol minds stuck on code

[fathom hound]

its totally fine, no biggie~! dont wanna stress you out

[whole raptor]

There was a command...

[latent mauve]

would it make more sense to reduce it to Gilded instead of Gold-Plated?

[whole raptor]

Can't really remember what was it tho

!vscjsonc

[ocean sail]

How to make VSCode not scream at json comments

In Visual Studio Code, go to File -> Preferences -> Settings, then search for "associations", and in the "Associations" setting, click the Add Item button to add an item with key *.json and value jsonc (see image).
If you are making a content pack for Content Patcher, you should consider using its json schema so that VSCode can tell you if your patches are valid, you simply have to add

"$schema": "https://smapi.io/schemas/content-patcher.json"

at the start of your content.json file.

To use this command, type !vscjsonc.

[sweet sphinx]

do you have any idea how many lines of code i'd have to change?

[velvet narwhal]

i was gonna say it's a brand new one

[rain basalt]

.> that works to lol

[velvet narwhal]

ctrl + h /lh

[whole raptor]

Just !jsonc would probably be easier to remember imo 😅

[velvet narwhal]

maybe, i don't use vsc so it doesn't scream at me about my comments

[whole raptor]

Also I didn't know we could make code look like that on discord

[velvet narwhal]

i don't remember which ones are supported but it's like, cs, c#, json, c++ all gives it funny colors

[uncut viper]

https://highlightjs.org/demo

they use this. it supports a lot more languages than that

[rain basalt]

sigh gona have to take a break for some dumb reason the path tile sheet is broken on my map im working on ....

[hard fern]

Will setting a false dependency force a mod to load after said false dependency?

[finite ginkgo]

yes

[hard fern]

Ty^^

[crystal yarrow]

anyone know why im getting this red text? [game] Failed parsing dialogue string for NPC Tenko (key: , text: ). ArgumentOutOfRangeException: Index was out of range. Must be non-negative and less than the size of the collection. (Parameter 'index') at StardewValley.Dialogue.checkForSpecialDialogueAttributes_PatchedBy<mistyspring.dynamicdialogues>(Dialogue this) at StardewValley.Dialogue..ctor(NPC speaker, String translationKey, String dialogueText)

[fathom hound]

thank you!

[rain basalt]

one of your dialogue lines is not coded correct or the reference to the line isnt coded correctly

[fathom hound]

Now that I finished my assets, objects, and i18n, how can i...

1. have Pierre sell my items in a stall during a festival?
2. have NPC's give a random item when you talk to them on only a specific day?

[tender bloom]

For 2, dialogue has an option to give items

Just make sure the dialogue only shows up on that day

[fathom hound]

(if there are any mods that are similar i can just learn from then i dont mind recs either )

[tender bloom]

Either with the games own conditions or CP

[fathom hound]

cool! thats perfect then

[rain basalt]

hmm im sure i saw event shop data somewhere

[tender bloom]

For 1, you’ll have to look in the unpacked content for the names of the festival stalls

[brittle ledge]

(do you want it to be the same item every year or only on year one, because those are two different dialogue keys)

[tender bloom]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Content_Patcher_Snippets_for_1.6#Adding_Items_to_Existing_Shops

[fathom hound]

i wanted it to be a randomized item every year on fall 27

[fathom hound]

thanks!

[brittle ledge]

Should be fall_27 and uh fall_27_2 I think

Jorts and Jean have day-specific dialogue as a reference if you want to look at their dialogue files

[fathom hound]

thank you!

[brittle ledge]

You can use the same dialogue for both keys though (or point them at the same i18n)

[rain basalt]

from what i see data/shops i did a search for strawberries and it shows vendor info and items

"DesertFestival_EggShop"

[fathom hound]

Yeah I'll just do that

[crystal yarrow]

not sure what it could be thats not correct. I ran everything through a validator

[fathom hound]

this is possible with CP though, right? i probably shouldve asked this BEFORE making this mod ._.

[latent mauve]

So, I've been thinking about doing another random feature in one of my personal mods that would trigger a chance to get a clothing item if you interacted with a specific piece of furniture. How terrible would that be to accomplish with CP?

(Mainly thinking about using HxW's bathroom furniture set to try to make the laundry machine do this)

[lucid iron]

is it a whole new clothing item

[rain basalt]

validator just checks format say you are loading assets/map.tmx to maps and you reference map2.tmx later smapi will say map2 doesnt exist but the code could be 100% formated correcty

[next plaza]

You could that using SpaceCore's tile action on furniture thing, using the trigger action tile action to give it.
(I think Calcifer might have tile action on furniture too? Not sure about trigger action tile action though)

[lucid iron]

or like a drawer where u r put in take out

[latent mauve]

I figured I'd use a vanilla clothing item that's associated with a character's spouse, or if unmarried, a random vanilla clothes item.

[rain basalt]

yes you could do a date check and only load assets on certain days

[brittle ledge]

Jorts and Jean are only CP, so yes

[crystal yarrow]

what would be the best way to go about figuring out what is wrong with it?

[rain basalt]

go to one dialoge line and see if it works then add others back

[fathom hound]

thank you <3

[lucid iron]

#making-mods-general message

it's possible to give furniture machine rules

[velvet narwhal]

are you loading an editdata

[lucid iron]

but unfortunately machines can't output Item

only Object

so yea i think either spacecore or calcier are your best bet

calcifer feature:

Custom actions when interacting with furniture (can run tile actions as well as trigger hooks). For example, this can be used to create custom catalogues, by defining a custom shop and then opening that shop when the furniture is interacted with. See HxW Fairy Garden Furniture's beautiful Fairy Garden Furniture Catalogue for an example!

[velvet narwhal]

also best way to actually see what's going wrong is uploading it to the validator and then giving us the link, but from what i'm used to seeing, it looks like you're loading an editdata

[latent mauve]

Thanks for the suggestions! I'll take a look at both Calcifer and SpaceCore's tile action/furniture implementation to see what I can come up with.

[fathom hound]

good luck lily!

[brittle pasture]

(The upcoming version of Extra Machine Config after SDV 1.6.9 has a workaround that allows machines to output non-Objects)
(though the tile action is probably easier; furniture machine rules are actually kinda scuffed lol)

[lucid iron]

i feel like thats gonna draw a chest on the table

unless you specifically do something about furniture.heldObject.heldObject

[brittle pasture]

#making-mods-general message
the "holder" object inside the furniture will get drawn as the first object inside the chest inside it

[lucid iron]

coat stand furniture that give u new shirt every season

[fathom hound]

did i do it right? lol

[finite ginkgo]

It looks correctly formatted

[fathom hound]

ok cool, will skip to the day and test it in a bit then ^_^ tyty

[sweet sphinx]

the construction cats??

[fathom hound]

theyre turtles iirc

[sweet sphinx]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jorts_(cat)

[fathom hound]

awwwwwwwwww!!!

[crystal yarrow]

what is an edit data? and should i link the smapi log or the cp validator

[velvet narwhal]

cp validator, i'm about to take a nap though but if you're making an npc we got plenty of guides on it

!npc

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

• Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6.

• NPCs no longer use dispositions, check the wiki page for the new NPC data.

• Aviroen has put together a template that will allow you to easily create a romanceable NPC.

• Feel free to jump into the https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1277457201077813280 thread for more interactive feedback and help!

To use this command, type !npc.

[crystal yarrow]

thx!

[whole raptor]

I find it hilarious that Jorts has an actual wiki page

[crystal yarrow]

i made this npc a while ago so could just be old https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/4f0ebc5fd3c54fc09098fef3ebee0bf4

[sweet sphinx]

I am mildly suprised he does

[near sierra]

I'm still having problems with events in our custom areas. I'm now loading a blank JSON file into a hypothetical XNB for the new areas, which is what people here have told me to do. Problem is, the event I'm testing this with still isn't working. I tried activating the event through the console, but all I get is an error saying it wasn't found. It's almost like I'm trying to edit a file that doesn't exist, but the console isn't telling me that for some reason. What's actually going on? (I know some people may prefer a link to the SMAPI JSON validator, but I'm just putting the full file folder here so people can see the full file structure, which will probably be important for figuring this out).

[hallow prism]

chance of people looking without the json are low

you do you, but personally i will not dl a file unless i have reasonably excluded other options first

and then i would likely just not doi it anyway

[fathom hound]

btw, i cant find your jorts and jean mod

[latent mauve]

Without looking at it, have you already checked it with debug ebi <id> to make sure the event loads, even if it's not triggering?

to rule out precondition weirdness

[tough crater]

(Unrelated)
I'm working on <location>_Entry dialogue and I'm wondering how many characters can fit in the speech bubble. I wanna make sure I don't break it with too many letters

[velvet narwhal]

Nope I said I was gonna nap I'm gonna nap.
I don't know what hypothetical xnb means but if you never loaded a blank.json i.e. a {} into your data/events/YOURLOCATION then you're writing your events into the wind.

[near sierra]

I did try, and it's saying that it can't find the event.

[tight rivet]

This may be relevant to people here, but I doubt it's relevant to anyone: https://forums.nexusmods.com/topic/13501488-publisher-approved-paid-modding-policy/

still, pasisng it along for those who have patreons etc.

[whole raptor]

Isn't it just for partnership with the game publisher on modded content (mostly or only Bethesda situation with their mod shop)? I don't think Patreon has anything to do with this

[near sierra]

I am loading the blank JSON file into data/events/[The map's name]. I don't know if that's supposed to create an XNB file for the area for events to be loaded in, but it must not be, since it seems to be writing those events into the ether despite this.

[tight rivet]

there's a bit about how you have to link to Nexus if you have a patreon for paid mods

the fact taht Nexus, a private company that makes money off of people downloading mods, is complaining about paid mods, is, however, hilarious.

[next plaza]

I'm kinda bewildered that you're not allowed to offer commissions

[tender bloom]

If you click through to the advertisement policy you actually can’t link to patreons for paid mods at all

[tight rivet]

Nexus! :V

[tender bloom]

They’re very unclear about this in the announcement, but the announcement is for Bethesda games as best I can tell

[tight rivet]

.. they mention InZoi

which is not a Beth game, atall

[tender bloom]

I mean it’s motivated by

Not that it only applies to

[iron ridge]

content patcher doesn't make xnbs

[tight rivet]

Sure, but itapplies beyond Beth, so kinda..

Look, if you want to defend a company that makes millions off of memberships so you can download mods, on you, etc.

I'm going to just point out Nexus is often strict on this and leave it at that

[tender bloom]

I’m not defending

[teal bridge]

I don't think anyone knows or cares what inzoi is, lol... Besthesda is still almost half of Nexus's traffic.

[tender bloom]

Just trying to make sure the info is clear

[tight rivet]

fair, sorry.I misunderstodo a bit

[tender bloom]

Because I was very confused at first

[near sierra]

Here are the two files:
SpiritField.json: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/61d66d26d6ff4af39f68fc3e02de2b07
content.json: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/a0f3693ffa124e8098f719b273093ee4

[tight rivet]

(inzoi is a Korean sims competitor)

(IIRC I don't think it's out yet.)

[tender bloom]

I don’t agree with it, but it seems like nexus is scared of Bethesda getting mad about paid mods given that there’s some options “officially” for paid mods, and is trying to completely separate themselves

With much resulting outcry etc etc (nexus author server is a cage match today)

[next plaza]

You can find the stuff about "no commissions" on the page linked in that post - https://help.nexusmods.com/article/77-donation-options-guidelines

[tender bloom]

But I specifically asked about Stardew situation and they said that no commissions for mods are allowed to be linked, and comms for art they feel is “it depends”

[teal bridge]

Bethesda gonna Bethesda and Nexus gonna Nexus. Attaching oneself to any commercial property and hoping to make a profit off that is always going to be a risk, and subject to having the rug yanked out from under you.

[tight rivet]

Read: Not allowed unless the mod feels like it.

[iron ridge]

mod as in moderator?

[next plaza]

It still feels really bizarre not to allow commissions though.

[tight rivet]

Yes. Nexus's moderation team is .. uneven?

And as such I default to assuming you'll get one of the harsher ones and can't appeal

[quaint moss]

Is there an actual difference between "Now" and "All" when it comes to non-letter mailflags? I've been (accidentally) using both interchangeably and I've noticed no difference, all flags are applied instantly (which is the behavior I want)

[next plaza]

Like... I get it could be abused, but still

[tender bloom]

My theory is that lawyers won’t go for anything if there’s no money in it, but idk why they don’t just say that

[tight rivet]

Maybe that's not other people's experience, so-

[brittle ledge]

Yep, I put them in the game

[teal bridge]

Well, Comms in Bethesda land are virtually all mod commissions, not "asset commissions" like what often happen here.

[tender bloom]

Bethesda land seems scary

[next plaza]

Interestingly, I sometimes get people wanting to pay for me to update my old mods - and that's against the policy apparently: "Do not offer donations in exchange for files, updates, or assistance."

[tight rivet]

Then they can specify.

[teal bridge]

It's not exactly Earth Logic, but I can see how one could come to consider that a form of paid mod.

[tight rivet]

Like I realize Nexus grewout out of the Morr-Obli-Skyrim modding scene

[sweet sphinx]

nice!

[tender bloom]

I feel like you can’t offer but you can accept, by that wording?

[tight rivet]

but they could be clear about non Beth mods

[next plaza]

There's also "Do not solicit or request donations in exchange for files, updates, or assistance." - so maybe, but still iffy

[brittle pasture]

For non-letter mailflags I think you should use Received instead of Now?

[teal bridge]

Their model of modders is the sharecropper model and they don't want you running any kind of independent business on their platform.
(You don't have to like it, but staying in that mindset is how you'll predict their policies and enforcement.)

[old edge]

Yeah well you just can't do it on nexus

[brittle pasture]

otherwise you get a blank letter in the mailbox

[brittle ledge]

Dunno why, it's in the same place it's always been https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/10950

[old edge]

If you do it on Patreon its ok

[crystal yarrow]

oh my gosh custom npcs have changed since i last modded this is so confusing

[fathom hound]

thank you, when i searched it on google, none of the links came up, apologies

[uncut viper]

If you do it on patreon you still have to have no way to link your mod page to that patreon, including through intermediate links like twitter or Reddit that then advertise the patreon

[old edge]

You can offer commissions on Kofi or Patreon

[brittle ledge]

Oh, I wouldn't use Google for anything on Nexus, just use their search

[fathom hound]

makes sense

[old edge]

Not on nexus itself

[quaint moss]

Some confirmation on *what* you should actually use would be nice because I've never experienced this blank letter phenomenon

[next plaza]

Yeah, that makes sense, can't say I agree with it though. I get wanting to push out people who do it in bad faith, but it feels like they want people reliant on them for it all, and don't want people to be able to stand on their own

[tender bloom]

Tia wrote a guide!

Let me see if I can find it

[brittle ledge]

!NPCs ?

[crystal yarrow]

ive been following the wiki and the template but i am so so lost

[tough crater]

even nexus sucks for finding mods sometimes. I'll need to click on the dependencies for translations in order to find the actual original mods sometimes

[sweet sphinx]

I genuinely love this!!!

[old edge]

Oh yeah I also find translation first for some reason have to search on Google

[tender bloom]

If there’s bits that are unclear, potentially looking at mods updated for 1.6 as reference could help?

[crystal yarrow]

thats a good idea!

thank u

[uncut viper]

i mean, it says right there what each one does and what it will do. There is no single answer to what you SHOULD do because it depends on your use case. if all you want is a hidden mail flag, received is ideal

[tender bloom]

By default it goes in newest first order iirc

[hard fern]

i never knew cats could form a union

[tender bloom]

And obviously translations are all newer than the original

I don’t know why it does that instead of like by relevance

[whole raptor]

They could have at least mentioned the name or somethin

[teal bridge]

The sharecropper model is never very good for the sharecroppers. Great if you're the owner, though.

[brittle pasture]

Ahh, I guess it just doesnt show in the mailbox if there's no Data/Mail entry. I know if there is a Data/Mail but it's malformed then you get a blank letter that instantly disappears
As for your original question, I guess All is only relevant for removing actual received mails and for other use cases it's not as important?

[brittle ledge]

I mean the name is just "Jorts and Jean"

[tender bloom]

The helper cats?

[whole raptor]

Well.. fair enough

[quaint moss]

Like I said, I'm asking precisely because I've been using two of the types and have seen no apparent difference between them, and saying to use a third type makes it no less confusing

[tender bloom]

I thought it had a subtaglinething

[old edge]

So can you put requested by if a mod was commissioned?

[brittle ledge]

Missed my opportunity to call it "Rise Up, Sabo-Tabby! The Adventures of Jorts and Jean"

[uncut viper]

well, the third type is the answer. it's the one that does what you want with no other side effects. adding it to All will also work, but only as long as you never need to remove that mail flag on that same day, because it'll be re-added tomorrow whether you want it to be or not

[whole raptor]

I just thought about a possibility of seeing a mod called "The Rise of Jorts" and can't stop laughing...

[quaint moss]

Now that's a solid answer. Thank you.

[old edge]

I actually just finished a farm that was requested made

[uncut viper]

so if you want your mail flags to be temporary or not there after today , you don't want that. if it doesn't matter then there's no difference, just best practices that can potentially save headache later

[crystal yarrow]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/8bfbfadbed7043d4a11aa8c78c97d72e does this look right>

?

[tender bloom]

See the error at the top? You seem to have a brackets problem

[crystal yarrow]

i know theres an error but not sure what to do about it

[crystal yarrow]

it need more at the end right?

[tender bloom]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/d7beb64455c24ad79e0dffa5ee8f4c19

Yes

Several more

[crystal yarrow]

"1 Missing required fields: Format."

what does that mean?

[tender bloom]

Is this a file you used “include” for? Or is this your main CP content.json?

[crystal yarrow]

its my dialogue json

[tender bloom]

What is the original file named?

[crystal yarrow]

dialogue.json

[tender bloom]

Okay, then you can ignore the format warning

The main content.json needs to have the format

But the other ones that get referenced from there don’t

[crystal yarrow]

i was tyring to rework my content file and thats where i got confused lol

[fathom hound]

i dont see my items in the shop

[rancid temple]

What's your object data look like?

[brittle pasture]

your file looks right to me. did you make sure to include it

(if object data is wrong an error entry should still show up right)

[rancid temple]

Do you have a Format in all these included files?

[fathom hound]

ahhh im missing 1 in NPCGiftTastes.json

[rancid temple]

You shouldn't have Format in any Included file