making-mods-general

[uncut viper]

oh its just putting multiple spritesheets in one, but each individual clone will only use one section of the sheet and not go through all 24 frames?

[lucid iron]

yea

this is also how snek works

[uncut viper]

i dont think i know what AnimClips frames means

[lucid iron]

not relevant, but it's extra animation frames not part of whats determined by movement

[lucid iron]

this is 3 sets, 3 frame each

for head segment tail

[uncut viper]

also i might change the last sentence of the first paragraph to say like "Abilities only happen relative to the first, original copy of the companion." bc it confused me a bit and maybe also say "Trinket Tinker will [...]" instead of "there is a mechanism" bc the latter makes me think its optional

[lucid iron]

yea that sounds better

oh it is completely optional

[uncut viper]

i thought when i said it earlier u said i cant

make real clones that is

[lucid iron]

i imagine most companions will not have repeats

[sweet sphinx]

frog horde

[uncut viper]

"To do this without truly creating more companions, there is a mechanism to create shadow clones" reads to me like i dont have to use that mechamism if i want to make true companions

[lucid iron]

One trinket can only have one companion, but it's possible to make this companion appear as multiple entities by repeating draws with a delay, creating "shadow clones".

how bout this

[uncut viper]

that does sound a lot clearer to me

[lucid iron]

i am still like

conflict about what multiple companions/motion implies tbh

[uncut viper]

i think then saying something like each additional entity can be given their own appearances by coipying your spritesheet and pasting it below the original or smth

[lucid iron]

yea i am definitely too in the weeds

[woeful lintel]

Oh god, FF will never be ready...

[hard fern]

im scared

[woeful lintel]

yeah, I've "tried" to convert one of my CP mods to AT but gave up multiple times because of the lack of documentation.

[woeful lintel]

thank god, I have 1h30 of online class with no camera required, I can work on it

[silver pelican]

Im confused if is possible to kind of like unlock a convo from NPC B on the condition that the player reached a certain heart threshold from NPC A?

[hard fern]

like an event?

i think you can write an event with conditions, no?

[velvet narwhal]

you can make custom conversationtopics

[silver pelican]

the convo? not really. i'd like it more if it

iit'll become a normal convo

[velvet narwhal]

triggeraction -> addconversationtopic -> make sure npc B has the conversationtopic key in their dialogue
with the condition being PLAYER_FRIENDSHIP_POINTS Current <NPC A> <heart # which is 250 per heart level>

[vernal crest]

You can also do it other ways: have your normal EditData of the dialogue file and also have a patch that adds a new dialogue line/edits an old line after a heart level has been reached.

[silver pelican]

i will try both. thank you! is there a mod that i can specifically compare this to? (esp with the add conversation topic?

[vernal crest]

Or use $query inside a dialogue line so it's like "Mon": "$query PLAYER_HEARTS NPC_A <hearts># This dialogue plays once the heart level is reached | This is played before then"

[velvet narwhal]

uh i can probably throw together a trigger action

[silver pelican]

OHH. I think I'll do this first, then I'll try with the convo topic. :3 Thank u both ! ❤️

[hard fern]

it's possible for me to make an npc who only shows up for events, right? like in another character's heart event, but they dont actually exist in-game?

[vernal crest]

Yep

[velvet narwhal]

  "Changes": [
    {
      "Action": "EditData",
      "Target": "Data/TriggerActions",
      "Entries": {
        "{{ModId}}_ConvoTopic": {
          "Id": "{{ModId}}_ConvoTopic",
          "Trigger": "LocationChanged",
          "Condition": "PLAYER_FRIENDSHIP_POINTS Current <NPC A> <heart # which is 250 per heart level>",
          "Actions": [
            "AddConversationTopic {{ModId}}_ConversationTopic <SET AMOUNT OF DAY(S)>" //    Start a conversation topic for the given number of days. If the topic is already active, this resets its duration to the given number.
          ]
        }
      }
    }
  ]
}``` ![SDVpuffermlem](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/585631006732582935.webp?size=128 "SDVpuffermlem")

[hard fern]

neat :3 i've got an idea for someone my npc is close to to appear in events but wasn't sure if it were possible

[silver pelican]

oh my gosh, thank you so much!

[hard fern]

😓 actually i just might end up including them as a non-datable npc because i like them too much

[devout otter]

Do you want the character to only say the dialogue once or add the dialogue to a pool they can possibly say?

[silver pelican]

the 2nd one xd I was thinking of either doing the query or the convo topic :>

[vernal crest]

The CT will expire unless you explicitly work around that, so don't go that path if you want the dialogue to repeat later

[uncut viper]

you could however set the CT to last 99999 days

but they will also only say it once i think?

so def query is better

[vernal crest]

Yeah once they have said the CT they shift to their normal dialogue

[devout otter]

Yeah, if it's convo topic than they'd only say it once, immediately after the related NPC gets to the required heart level.

[vernal crest]

The query I think is the simplest way to do it if you are happy for the line to be associated with one particular dialogue key

As long as you don't have the query inside i18n and are also using a pipe | somewhere else in your dialogue line (and if you don't know what I'm talking about, you're probably not doing that so it's fine)

[silver pelican]

the query is the way to go then

:>>

[uncut viper]

(you also can actually make them repeat the CT topic dialogue if you really wanted to not much point to that tho)

[vernal crest]

CTs override other dialogue as well, don't they? So if you could make them repeat the CT that's all they'd ever say from then on until the CT expired?

[uncut viper]

correct. but good to consider if you ever wanna add a temporary CT but multiple times in another scenario

[vernal crest]

How would one make them repeat it? Set it again in the CT itself or something?

[uncut viper]

or less "good to consider" and more "could be good to have in the back pocket"

it just checks a mail flag

NPCName_CTKey

so if you remove the mail flag theyll repeat it

[vernal crest]

Which you could do inside the actual CT line, couldn't you? Or would that get too weird with order?

[uncut viper]

it wouldnt actually matter which order you did it in, the dialogue is checked when you talk to them

[vernal crest]

BUt when is the flag set?

[uncut viper]

also when you talk to them

if they find a dialogue line that goes with the CT, they will say it and mark a mail flag for you

that way they wont do it again later

so you can remove the mail flag any time

[vernal crest]

I am being slow. If the order goes "click to talk -> check for flag -> say CT -> unset flag (as part of the CT dialogue) -> set flag", won't that not work?

[uncut viper]

oh, thats what you meant, i thought "CT line" meant the trigger action line that sets the original CT

i.e. in Data/TriggerActions

i wasnt thinkin about action dialogue commands

but i think it would still work

[vernal crest]

Ah right no I know you could do it with a trigger action but I was curious about doing it in the actual dialogue itself

[uncut viper]

the flag is set right after the dialogue is pushed to their dialogue, and then the dialogue is shown, which is when the action is parsed i believe

i just tested it and yeah removing the mail in the dialogue itself lets you endlessly talk to them about that topic

akin to location dialogue you can repeat

[vernal crest]

Woo

I do not currently have any use case for that but good to know (if I remember haha)

[uncut viper]

neither do i

i already have betas if i ever needed to add some infinite dialogue

[hard fern]

🙃 oops now i need to comb through dialogue for the expression keys because i shuffled the portraits

sigh

^how i am feeling

[vernal crest]

When you say you shuffled the portraits, do you mean you forgot the correct numbers and wrote them wrong>

Or did you move them around on the spritesheet itself?

[hard fern]

both

[vernal crest]

So they're inconsistently written in the dialogue so you can't just fix it by moving them on the sheet?

[hard fern]

yeah

[vernal crest]

Unfortunate :/

[hard fern]

😔 im so good at this whole "making a set of portraits that i didnt fumble" thing

😓 yaay.... they're fixed...

[hard fern]

i made a greenhouse mod...?

4 years ago..?

[vague acorn]

oh?

what does it do?

[hard fern]

😭 its just a greenhouse

[vague acorn]

ooh i actually really like this layout

[vernal crest]

I don't know whether it's worse that vscode.dev is working on Chrome (but not Firefox) than having it not working at all :/

[calm nebula]

Weird

I use vscode in gitlab all the damn time from firefox

[hard fern]

maybe a browser setting making it not work 🤔

[vernal crest]

I hope it's just an extension issue. I am trying disabling them.

[calm nebula]

I use ublock

That is the only extension

[vernal crest]

Nooo disabling them didn't fix it

I would've assumed it's because I am using ESR FF except it didn't work on the fancy laptop with the up-to-date FF either

But it has worked before on the fancy laptop so ???

[hard fern]

🤔 it wont let me open folders but i can edit individual files just fine

[calm nebula]

To be fair I'm editing a gitlab repo

[vernal crest]

Okay I have found some errors in the console, promising

[dim yew]

Does anyone have an emote index chart? The event modding resource spreadsheet’s one broke for me for some reason

[ivory plume]

There's no images, but there's a list of emote indexes + names on the wiki.

[dim yew]

Ah sucks that there’s no images 😔 but that’ll work for now haha. Thank you!

[ivory plume]

Good news for Linux/macOS mod authors: Rider is now free for non-commercial use!

[blissful panther]

(Which includes receiving DP for your mods, it would seem!)

[obtuse umbra]

Hope that this is the right thread to ask the following... Has anyone heard it from Idalda or Gwen if they're interested to update their buildings with the new ones from Sve?

[ivory plume]

Is that an image you created, or you got it from someone else? It'd be nice to add an image like that to the wiki.

[reef palm]

It's an East Scarp dev resource from @golden basin (clown can this be put on the wiki?)

[vernal crest]

It looks like trying to get around it will involve disabling my Content-Security-Policy and that just seems unwise

[blissful panther]

(Clown to the rescue? )

[hard fern]

clpwn

[blissful panther]

(NO PROOF.)

[hard fern]

XD

[vernal crest]

I give up. I shall have to use Chrome.

[devout otter]

1.6.9 content: I can't seem to ||add portrait to the new hidden shop|| via CP. Maybe it's simply not possible? I just need assurance that I actually typed this action right:

            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/Shops",
            "TargetField": [ "Crow", "Owners", "AnyOrNone" ],
            "Entries": {"Portrait": "Mods/DolphINaF.VendorPortraits/Crow_Default"},
        },```

[hallow prism]

sounds right to me assuming you did load the asset too

[unkempt magnet]

hiya ! can someone help me out with understanding the colour system with making a fashion sense pack please (,:

[devout otter]

Yeah, no problem with the asset. SMAPI says the field 'Crow' doesn't match an existing target, but there is a "Crow" field in Data/Shops?

[hallow prism]

i dont have 1.6.9 stuff on hand to check

(also i would check about junimo if discussing that here is ok? i am not sure if it's fine on a semi public place, but also ... it wouldn't be in a public access beta if not?)

[lucid iron]

i mean the beta itself is public, just lowkey

[hallow prism]

yes that's... what i just said i hope

[lucid iron]

i dont see a crow field in data/shops

[rancid temple]

Did you re-unpack?

[lucid iron]

it's called LostItems

[lucid iron]

so if u replace "Crow" with "LostItems" it should work

[rancid temple]

Finally did my re-unpacking this morning, can second this for the shop name

[devout otter]

Aaa I guess it's recently updated? This is what I have:

Thank you for the help!

[lucid iron]

beta mood

hm this shop is nice i wont have to make things tool to prevent complete loss

[devout otter]

I just hope it wouldn't suddenly be not a crow anymore because I've already drawn the portrait. 😆

[rancid temple]

Looks like it's open sound is still a crow sound, so I guess hopefully it doesn't change going forward lol

[lucid iron]

if game changes it then u just change it back

[rancid temple]

Yeah, for a non-character vendor that's an easy choice lol

[devout otter]

I've drawn a crow and by gods I shall have it.

[lucid iron]

wow i can just delet the museum furniture now

[rancid temple]

Time for Aba to make a human vendor though

[lucid iron]

all my saves have jade hills + bear early on cus i got nowhere to put those rewards

[vernal crest]

Hey roku up for some testing for me?

[rancid temple]

Sure, what's up?

[vernal crest]

I just saw the changelog for the beta says "Fixed move command ignoring all remaining NPCs if an optional NPC isn’t found." but the issue I ran into was that the move command didn't work even if the optional NPC was present.

[near sierra]

I'm trying to make events that fire in a custom area at the moment. I've tried creating a blank .xnb file for the area and loading it into the events folder. However, the event didn't work. It's possible I just didn't link it up properly with the area. How do I get this working (The area's name is SpiritField)?

[vernal crest]

Could you whip up an event with an optional NPC and try moving them?

[vernal crest]

!json Can you upload this to the json validator and give us a link instead please? That way we don't have to download your file.

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[rancid temple]

whip up is an interesting term lmao, I can work on it but I'm anti-NPC so it'll take me a bit to learn

[hallow prism]

(can you show the command just in case?)

[vernal crest]

Or just test an event I come up with, if you like roku.

[rancid temple]

So far my event experience involves placing the farmer in front of the house and opening a dialogue box 🤣

[near sierra]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/9a69da96ce8344ddbdd8ef1251003cca

[vernal crest]

Actually I'm pretty sure I made a repro pack for Pathos which I am trying to find but I can't - ah ha! #making-mods-general message

[vernal crest]

Thanks. Your Target is wrong - it should be HalfAlive.SpiritFieldsContentPack_SpiritWorld I think. And CustomLocations is an obsolete way of loading custom locations now anyway. Also I'd recommend loading a json file, not an xnb. Finally, your format is old and should be 2.3.0

[near sierra]

Thank you.

[near sierra]

Doesn't the event system store events in .XNB files for each area, though? I heard people say a JSON file would be better, but I'm not sure how including a JSON file in the events folder would work for what I'm trying to do. Then again, I am new to Stardew Valley in general.

[rancid temple]

The game stores everything in xnb files, but you're sending things through Content Patcher which can use xnb's but the preferred method is to use json and plain file types like pngs and such

If I understand correctly, xnb is basically just a way to store assets, probably for compression

[rancid temple]

Hm, am I supposed to do anything specific to make the event trigger?

[vernal crest]

Debug ebi?

[rancid temple]

Oh lmao, not me walking in and out of the forest

[vernal crest]

xD

[rancid temple]

Cut to Penny and Maru standing near each other next to Marnie's, Maru walks down a bit and then the event ends, no console errors

[vernal crest]

Okay that sounds like it's fixed! I'll just run it on my game though to double check since i just remembered I installed the game on my potato for Cam.

[near sierra]

So what would the event-related syntax look like in that case if I don't need any XNB files for the new area?

[rancid temple]

I am the wrong person to ask about event syntax lmao, I have to check the wiki for even the most simple of event stuff, I don't handle anything NPC related so I can really only give some basics and links to where to find more info

[vernal crest]

Well, we do happen to have a basic event on hand right this moment lol

Ah but I will have to edit it so it's in the right format for a load

I imagine it probably looks exactly like how you'd write it for packing into an xnb, actually https://smapi.io/json/none/a51988cdc07948f6a21d6efe6b8088d9

[rancid temple]

Looking at your json, you already seem to have the event syntax down. Is the issue loading a blank json?

[vernal crest]

And then you'd change your content.json code block to this (assuming I am correct about the id of a location when using CustomLocations, which I'm not sure about). It's either this or "Target": "Data/Events/SpiritField", is my guess.

{
      "Action": "Load",
      "Target": "Data/Events/HalfAlive.SpiritFieldsContentPack_SpiritWorld",
      "FromFile": "data/SpiritField.json"
    }

I doubt they were asking about loading a blank json since neither of us mentioned that

[rancid temple]

Lol, I hadn't looked at this before, loading an xnb like this would completely wipe out any other events added by other mods

Anti-compat

[vernal crest]

But same if you just loaded the json

Any load replaces the asset

But it's their own location so there's not going to be any events added by other mods

Or if there are (assuming someone made one for it) they'd need to patch afterwards anyway

[rancid temple]

I actually wonder if you can Target just Data/Events with a json, with an xnb it makes sense because you're replacing one archive with another

Depends on if there's any type validation I guess

Maybe one day I'll pry into CP and actually understand it lmao

[vernal crest]

Oh, hm. I was just assuming that their current Target would fail entirely. Are you saying that it would actually work but would wipe out all the data in there? Because if so, that's not just removing events added by other mods, that'd remove every event from the game wouldn't it? Except the one they were adding.

[rancid temple]

Well, depends if their archive is a copy of the vanilla archive

With just their location added to it

I think that's the typical way you would use xnb in CP, but there's not a lot of info on it since it's not a method anyone should be using lol

[vernal crest]

But all the events for the different locations are in different xnbs

[rancid temple]

Oh, then yeah I guess that would cause some more serious issues lmao

[vernal crest]

Yeah there's 529 files inside Content/Data/Events

[rancid temple]

Might just create an asset called Data/Events, which I'm sure wouldn't be a problem at aaalll /s

Probably would actually be mostly fine, since I don't think anything targets just Data/Events

Aside from the previously mentioned events they added not working lol

[vernal crest]

Yeah I think it would just sort of disappear into the void unless a confused C# modder then tried to do something with a Data/Events asset for some reason maybe

Oh poop I don't have CP installed

Potato testing delayed

[rancid temple]

Can that computer even run SDV? Lol

[vernal crest]

By the way in case our chatter hid the useful information, these two messages were meant for you: #making-mods-general message #making-mods-general message

[vernal crest]

Yes! Just!

[rancid temple]

I guess if you keep the mod load low that will continue to be true

[vernal crest]

Apparently once upon a time it could even run thief

And portal 2. I strongly doubt it could now though

[rancid temple]

Time takes all things from us

[vernal crest]

Except my laptops

[rancid temple]

That's like summoning a crash

[near sierra]

I just saw them. I’ll try that in a moment.

[vernal crest]

Lol most of them don't even work anymore so if someone (or fate) steals them it won't be a huge loss

Yay, Maru is just standing there

[rancid temple]

I'm tyrannical with my electronics, if it doesn't work then it goes away

Maru isn't supposed to move?

[vernal crest]

No, she is meant to move. The yay is for me correctly remembering that in 1.6.8 she doesn't and for your test result that in 1.6.9 she does.

Meaning the bug is fixed in 1.6.9

[rancid temple]

Oh ok lmao, I was worried

[vernal crest]

Thank you for helping me test

El potato

[rancid temple]

I miss 7

[vernal crest]

Fortunately it's not true and Steam does still work. It's just unsupported.

[rancid temple]

Lmao, what a misdirect

[vernal crest]

I remember being very upset about having to go from XP to 7

Now I'm resisting 11 as long as I possibly can

[rancid temple]

Yeah, XP was good. I remember a few issues with 7 but that was mostly hardware related, of course it was an operating system issue since microsoft seems hell bent on making each operating system require stronger computers for no increase in performance or function

11 has been the biggest catalyst to me wanting to switch to Linux, but there are too many issues with just SDV modding alone that I see in here that make me reluctant to actually do it lol

Nevermind that I know there are a lot of other issues I just don't have the energy to deal with anymore

[vernal crest]

I game too much to leave Windows, though I do also have Linux on nearly every computer I own (I want so badly to be a Linux nerd)

[calm nebula]

Fwiw I'm easy to please but I haven't had an issue with linux that wasn't my faulf

You should take my experience with a grain of salt, though, I currently play 0 video game

[rancid temple]

That's right, it's me, the problem

I know most of my initial set up process with 11 is going to be me googling how to turn off 90% of the new shit and bring back as much of the old as I can, but that still seems better than trying to learn a whole new operating system right now

[vernal crest]

Okay I better shuffle to bed (well, sleep) lest I be too tired for the drive to therapy tomorrow

[whole raptor]

Ironically a lot of games either don't run on Linux (correct me if I'm wrong) or run better than on Windows

[calm nebula]

For basic shit you barely need to learn anything

[rancid temple]

I wouldn't be surprised by games that run on Linux running better than on windows

Windows has so much fucking bloat, it's amazing it doesn't sink

[whole raptor]

Wasn't there some kind of Windows "Lite" version?

[rancid temple]

Not that I'm familiar with

[rancid temple]

The bigger problem for me is that, without fail, I always manage to find the dumbest fucking problems that apparently nobody else has ever had

Even on windows, I just am apparently a problem

[whole raptor]

Or Tiny All I remember is seeing something where some of the Windows bloat was stripped from the beginning

[lucid iron]

Just switch before you get into modding

Sdv modding is at least workable just with couple caveats

[rancid temple]

Time to make a time machine

[lucid iron]

I can't even run tesedit properly so skyrim modding is doomed

I don't think linux has been huge impedement to gaming for me, but I don't play latest AAAAA augus beef video games either

[rancid temple]

Yeah I think a lot of games do just support Linux these days

[whole raptor]

I'm honestly curious how it'd be to run SteamOS on PC

[woeful lintel]

basically anything can run through Proton

[calm nebula]

Feel free to bitch at linux over in #programmers-off-topic

[golden basin]

Did someone @ me

[golden basin]

Go for it!!!

[reef palm]

@ivory plume Clown's alright with that graphic going to the wiki if it would help others. (I haven't the slightest idea how to edit the wiki so whoever does that stuff and see this message/wants to act, the emote graphic in question is right here #making-mods-general message)

[ebon lotus]

Hello all! I'm trying to integrate the Generic Mod Config Menu, and it's all good except for the addPage setting. Every single option after this call goes into that page. Is there any way I can end that page and continue with the previous one? Like a endPage() call

[brittle ledge]

Oh, I thought the overhead emote chart wouldn't be useful/allowed in the official wiki, that's why it's on the modding wiki.

[calm nebula]

Weird. That is not how I recall it working

[rancid temple]

Start a new page in the mod's config UI, or switch to that page if it already exists. All options registered after this will be part of that page.

Easy answer would just be put it at the end of the configs

[calm nebula]

In particular I recall having to call switch page

[rancid temple]

Looks like it just does both now

[uncut viper]

it's worked like that for as long as I've been using it. which admittedly isn't as long as atra ofc. but it's not a recent thing

[rancid temple]

Yeah, not sure how far back I'd have to look, it's not even part of the obsolete code currently in the project

[calm nebula]

In particular I recall having to call switch page

Unfortunately I don't recall how to switch back to the original pafe

Oh I see

You just add page link

https://github.com/atravita-mods/StardewMods/blob/2017c2ce5f804d706db34f9a5cbdf00e3c7c4fe1/AtraShared/Integrations/GMCMHelper.cs#L873

So add all your page links then addpage

[rancid temple]

Would still need to do that at the end though in order to avoid having everything you put after that registered on that new page?

Or at least, if you add another page up until that point

[fathom hound]

Any C# modders wanna collab for the #1292662310305005609 ?

[rancid temple]

Don't the contests end in like 3 days?

[fathom hound]

Yeah I only have 1 idea for it but it requires C# can’t think of more

[tiny zealot]

it's probably too late for me to be able to finish, but run it by me and let's see

[knotty phoenix]

Seems likely I'm out of luck here, but is there any way to change the behavior of the special attack on clubs so that it doesn't flip the sprite upside down? I have several single-edged axes in my mod that are operating as clubs and the current behavior means that the special attack is done with the flat end which obviously looks a tad silly

[rancid temple]

Not without C#

[acoustic summit]

Could use a harmony solution and check for weapon, then replicate script with differences needed for sprites

Theres probably a framework out there for custom weapons that could do it, too

[knotty phoenix]

yeah that's all way beyond my skill level so i will probably just live with it for now

[ivory plume]

I'm now officially maintaining Seasonal Hats!

It might already be common, but one fun trick I found is texture self-patching:

1. Load a texture.
2. EditImage the texture onto itself to copy one area to another, so you can have both seasonal and fixed versions with just a sprite index.

[tiny zealot]

ok, adding that one to the list of hat mods to support 📝

[proud coral]

(new to modding)
How would I go about fetching the name (like the item name) of the crop that is planted on a tile?

couldnt find anything like that in CropData, except maybe the HarvestItemId i could use for something (mightve missed something tho)

[rancid temple]

Lookup Anything would be my go to

[proud coral]

ooh no i mean in code

[tiny zealot]

lookup anything's source code is readily available. i would guess you get the HarvestItemId and read the Object data to get the name of its entry

[rancid temple]

GameLocation has a isCropAtTile that you could look at to see how it's checking if a crop is there

A short jump from that to getting what kind of crop it is if true

[calm nebula]

How many mods does Pathos maintain now 😛

[brittle ledge]

I was actually wondering the other day if there's a list somewhere.

His mod page only shows ones in his name.

[calm nebula]

There is a gist somewhere

[ivory plume]

(These are the mods I officially support; that excludes all the mod pages I have access to as a backup in case the author isn't available.)

[uncut viper]

dont ask me why this message in particular made me think of this

[rancid temple]

For sure if your mod needs an illustrated diagram, that ain't gonna be CP lmao

[velvet narwhal]

isn't that an xkcd

[brittle pasture]

xkcd 1425

[velvet narwhal]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/images/5/53/Scrolloftruth.jpg?20230618225827

[uncut viper]

xkcd looks different than i remember

[velvet narwhal]

nah that one's just specifically the memes page

[lucid iron]

Can I touch platonic relationships

[ivory plume]

(Only platonically.)

[lucid iron]

It currently doesn't seem to block >8 heart dialog and events

I had some thoughts about how to do it under the new 1.6 npc format

That I'll get to soon™️

[velvet narwhal]

trinkers first

[lucid iron]

Well I hope it's b4 2025 at least

[ivory plume]

Sure, feel free to submit PRs as needed.

[lucid iron]

And hopefully b4 I play again

Sounds good

[ivory plume]

(Ideally small self-contained PRs; very large or combined PRs may take much longer before I have time to review/edit/merge them.)

[lucid iron]

Well if the existing mod seems like too much work to update I might just make my own version of the mod

But I remember it having something for blocking events, just not for modded npcs

[vague acorn]

I am wondering how to approach making meat for my cooking mod...
do you guys think making it from tofu is a good alternative to actually butchering your animals?

[knotty phoenix]

i think a plant-based meat setup could actually be rly cool

could do mushrooms, tofu, rice, tempeh

[calm nebula]

When was this

[uncut viper]

what do you mean when was this

[proud coral]

sooo I did it like this now: I got the HarvestItemID from the crop tile itself, then create a new Object with that id, of which I get the name.
this definitely doesnt feel like the way youre supposed to do it, but it works 🤷‍♀️

[uncut viper]

use ItemRegistry.Create

iirc theres very few instances in which you should be using an item constructor directly

[brittle ledge]

Btw, Button, my roommate got Graveyards and got a kick out of the little Easter egg you put in the log

[uncut viper]

tell your roommate that i am Appreciating THem

[tiny zealot]

the post timestamp is tomorrow

[calm nebula]

You can just get the item data

Somehow from itemregistry

[uncut viper]

yeah the original was editing already had (Tue) there and making it (Mon) messed up the font alignment so i just made it for tomorrow instead

[calm nebula]

Without creating an instance

[proud coral]

like this? that works as well! im guessing this is the better way to do it then

[brittle ledge]

If you don't want to do Animal Husbandry stuff, you could tie into a mod that has meat crops, like Grow Your Meat

[uncut viper]

atra/life is fleeting is right actually I focused too much on the Object constructor and forgot about ItemRegistry.GetData(string itemId), which will get you data with the internal and display names as needed

[vague acorn]

meat crops sounds a bit odd to me, but i think working either with tofu or with a dedicated shop could work for me

[brittle ledge]

They definitely are odd

[vague acorn]

is there a way to do something like an "item tag" in MC where multiple items from multiple mods can be used in a recipe?

[proud coral]

oooh yep I see now, that does seem like a much better way of going about this sorta thing. Thanks all!

[brittle ledge]

Yes, item context tags! Check Wildflours Artisan Goods, VMV or Cornucopia for some examples.

[vague acorn]

perfect! ill check it out!

[hallow prism]

you need that+spacecore to edit rhe recipe to allow for context tag

[vague acorn]

well luckily i have spacecore already in XD

[brittle ledge]

Oh, Uncle Iroh's Tea also does it, I think, and it's a smaller mod if the other examples are overwhelming.

[vague acorn]

oh there's already a tea mod? i wanted to add some tea to my mod XD

well it wouldnt hurt would it

[uncut viper]

!twocakes

[ocean sail]

If you discover that someone has made or is making a mod with a similar concept to yours, don't stress! Our community promotes the idea of "two cakes", where two versions of the same idea can peacefully co-exist. Your mod will have your own unique stamp on it that makes it special.

To use this command, type !twocakes.

[brittle ledge]

There's a bunch of tea mods, no worries

[vague acorn]

like how there's a bunch of cooking mods i assume XD

[brittle ledge]

Two cakes (or cups of tea in this case)

[lucid iron]

we could always use more tea mods

[vague acorn]

yeah i come from MC modding so i need to take a bit of time to get used to the community XD

everyone is so nice here

[round dock]

(there's also a dear mod author friend of mine @worn coral)

[lucid iron]

is mc against multiple tea mods

[vague acorn]

(not throwing shade on MC modding community)

[vague acorn]

it's way harder to compat

kinda

[lucid iron]

ah yea that's important

not a big worry here though, unless there's a second itayfeder out there making itayfeder.MoreTea

[velvet narwhal]

cooking mods are always welcome, it keeps us npc creators on our toes for not including whole categories into a liked/loved gifts section

[vague acorn]

last time i checked, im the only feder there is here XD

[grand badge]

is there guides for modding hair specifically?

[brittle pasture]

there's two ways to do it, with vanilla hair or with Fashion Sense

[grand badge]

fashion is the one with mirror right

[velvet narwhal]

yep

!fs

[ocean sail]

Fashion Sense

Fashion Sense is a framework mod that allows modders to create static or animated clothing, hair, accessories, and shoes that can be accessed through a special in-game menu. To access this menu, players will need to obtain the Hand Mirror from Pierre's Shop. The framework supports multiple content packs and also adds the ability to save, load, and export custom outfits.

Mod Users: Install Fashion Sense as well as any desired content packs. Content packs can be found by searching Nexus, or for an interactive list, click here.

Mod Authors: Instructions, tutorials, and tips for creating FS content packs are available on the mod's wiki.

To use this command, type !fs.

[grand badge]

thanks

[brittle pasture]

yeah
It's more powerful and allows for bigger hair sprites so that's what most ppl use nowadays

[brittle ledge]

There's also a tutorial on the modding wiki for CP hair.

[velvet narwhal]

trying to find a cp guide on hair but idk if there is one

[brittle ledge]

It's called Non-Replacing Hair or something like that (am on mobile)

[velvet narwhal]

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Non-Replacing_Hair_Resource_Guide

[vague acorn]

wait a second... why do you get rabbit's foot randomly from rabbits?

why do they just drop their feet all of the sudden

[velvet narwhal]

they're secretly lizards

[grand badge]

they regrow

[vague acorn]

yeah wait i can do the same with meat maybe

but no that's way too morbid

or is it

idk

[calm nebula]

Got it. 1k+/1.4k-, single PR, then?

[velvet narwhal]

what's the one meat mod that actually used the unused meat assets? was it butcher?

[lucid iron]

they are serpents

[vague acorn]

there are unused meat sprites?

[hallow prism]

animal husbandry

and yes there are unused meat sprites

[velvet narwhal]

you dig deep enough you'll find a lot of unused things

[vague acorn]

where are they located?

[rancid temple]

Just change the name to Rabbit's "Foot" and it stops being morbid

[hard fern]

yeah they just.. totally regrow 💀

hold on yeah you're right that did always bug me

[vague acorn]

i might use the same logic for beef and stuff

[brittle pasture]

maps/springobjects, same as where the objects sprites are

[hallow prism]

(thanks selph)

[vague acorn]

im assuming it's not in one of the language ones, or all of them have the same sprites (apart from language stuff)

[grand badge]

why did my brain just tell me to replace Abergele's sprite with a pile of clothes on a chair that vaguely looks like her?

[acoustic stag]

(as always, thank you rabbit floof mod fr saving my life)

[brittle pasture]

They're in there as well, for the most part the language ones are identical and only differ in the ones they need to differ

[vague acorn]

found it!!!

ooh these are great for me actually

[brittle pasture]

From a mod maker's perspective you dont really need to worry

[vague acorn]

well then, time to make some meats XD

[lucid iron]

you will probably want to gate your meat behind no animal husbandry

[brittle pasture]

I think most meat crop mods use their own items anyway (even if they use the same sprite)

[lucid iron]

if they are same sprite at least

[brittle pasture]

which sucks for AH compat but ehh

[vague acorn]

yeah that makes total sense

[lucid iron]

is there any established this is meat context tag?

[vague acorn]

does AH work for 1.6 even?

[lucid iron]

its updated psure

[grand badge]

oh thats overwhelming

[brittle pasture]

yeah it does

[grand badge]

its gonna be super complicated isnt it

[vague acorn]

oh there's interesting

didn't know that

[lucid iron]

naw

[velvet narwhal]

fashion sense is a little overwhelming, i do suggest cp first

[grand badge]

oki doki

[brittle pasture]

Since you're making hair styles you only need to follow the hair guide for now

[velvet narwhal]

once you understand how to syntax CP/json, you'll look at fashion sense and go "oh shit world of possibilities"

[lucid iron]

it helps to look at existing hair mods

for example https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/27595?tab=files

[grand badge]

I really do hate the name of that

[lucid iron]

you get over it very quickly

[brittle pasture]

hair/hats/shirts/etc FS packs are actually almost identical in structure

just the dimensions/target is different

so the headers arent that scary

[rancid temple]

There's someone who refers to it as CPatcher, not sure if it's to avoid the CP issue or just because there's also content packs to make that more confusing

[grand badge]

I just hope the spriting is the hardest part

[brittle pasture]

Once you know what you're doing, it is!

[lucid iron]

different aspect of mod making is harder or easier for different ppl

[grand badge]

aw yeah

[lucid iron]

rmbr u can always ask for help here

[grand badge]

I do wish my brain could lock in sometimes

is there a templete for the hair

[lucid iron]

do you mean the content pack or the spriting

prob want to ask #making-mods-art for the later

[grand badge]

fashion sense

since doesnt seem too hard for hair

[velvet narwhal]

https://github.com/Floogen/FashionSense/tree/stable/FashionSense/Examples/[FS] Example Pack/Hairs

[grand badge]

thank you

wait how do i even download it

github my arch enemy

I DID IT

[velvet narwhal]

pretty sure it's just find the .png right click save image

[grand badge]

thank you

I can color in the hair if I want it to be 1 color right?

[velvet narwhal]

github is also my arch nemesis, ate two weeks of commits

[brittle pasture]

yeah, I think there's a settings to control whether the hair style can be manually colored

[velvet narwhal]

yeah then there's some conditionals that you need to have in the .json of like "locked" or something iirc

[vague acorn]

oh question, how do i add an item to the items given a boost by the "butcher" skill?

[brittle pasture]

there's no butcher skill? unless you're talking about something else

rancher?

[vague acorn]

soryr

rancher

yeah it's pretty late here XD

is doing that even possible?

[brittle pasture]

It checks for certain categories, gimme a moment to dig the code up

[vague acorn]

actually is there a good way to view the original game's code?

[brittle pasture]

!decompile

[ocean sail]

If you want to make SMAPI mods with C#, one important resource is decompiling the game to read the game code. Here's how to do it: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#How_do_I_decompile_the_game_code.3F

To use this command, type !decompile.

[brittle pasture]

somewhere in Objects.getPriceAfterMultipliers

to answer your question, Rancher affects items with category -5 (egg), -6 (milk), -18 (sell at Marnie's and Pierre's), or have "mayonnaise", "cheese", "cloth" and "wool" in its internal name

[vague acorn]

so i should put it in the category -18 then

[lucid iron]

did you want to make growable meat

[vague acorn]

it might just fall from animals with high enough friendship like duck feathers and rabbit's foot

or i might make it a shop-only

or might make it with tofu

[grand badge]

alright time for me to begin spriting

[vague acorn]

didn't nail it down then XD]

[vague acorn]

good luck with that!

[grand badge]

thank you

is it pixel studio thats used for this

[vague acorn]

when i do sprites i usually use either paint.net or aseprite

[brittle pasture]

!software

[ocean sail]

Here's a list of software for pixel art and JSON text editors we recommend: https://gist.github.com/ishanjalan/c8efb21afa21f74a052293176db107f7

For making SMAPI (C#) mods, see the Requirements section here for which IDE to install https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#Get_started.

To use this command, type !software.

[grand badge]

I cant use paint.net idk why

[brittle pasture]

I personally use GIMP

but that's a bit advanced

[vague acorn]

oh gimp is a good choice

[rancid temple]

I prefer Aseprite but it's not free, can check out Libresprite but I dunno what features it's missing

[brittle pasture]

obligatory "it is free if you put some elbow grease into it and compile from source"

which admittedly is even more advanced

[rancid temple]

Yeah, pretty sure there's a guide, it's just a lot lol

[grand badge]

doing a rough outline 1st

doing aigis hair from p3

not sure if the hairs too small tho

[tough crater]

(Unrelated)
I'm having an issue with my NPC being spawned. In short, it's saying that a file is missing? Portraits\<NPCName>.xnb Do XNB files spawn there in the first place??????? I thought portraits could only use image files

[brittle pasture]

that means it tried to load a nonexistent asset. you probably used the wrong asset name between load and NPC data

[grand badge]

should I put progress in making mods art

(cant find hashtag on my keyboard)

[uncut viper]

generally yes

[grand badge]

ok thanks

[near sierra]

@vernal crest@rancid temple I still haven't been able to get it working right. The text file is how the error message ended up getting pasted into this message. It still wants an XNB file.

Here's SpiritField.json: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/b983179db62b40b68ae1f4a05463cb07
Here's content.json: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/762ba071645f4de8aafaa18dec08c850

[rancid temple]

The error about there not being an xnb file is because the content is packaged that way, I'm not entirely sure on how the process goes but it's not like actually looking for a real physical xnb file

[velvet narwhal]

"{{ModId}}_82345679/e {{ModId}}_82345678": "farmer 0 0 0/emote farmer 24/pause 3500/faceDirection farmer 0/pause 1000/globalFadeToClear 0.005/pause 1000/removeQuest {{ModId}}_132/end"
you need the sound/viewport/ before the actors, where your farmer 0 0 0 is

[rancid temple]

You didn't do a blank load?

[finite ginkgo]

{
  "Action": "Load",
  "Target": "Data/Events/HalfAlive.SpiritFieldsContentPack_SpiritWorld",
  "FromFile": "data/SpiritField.json"
}```
`Data/Events/<whatever>` is always a `string` -> `string` dictionary
You're trying to load it using the included file, which is not string string dict json, but following the content patcher format, so it cannot load the target with the data provided

[tough crater]

wym?

[velvet narwhal]

are your portraits named the same way as your npc's internal name?

[grand badge]

yall got a farmer head template?

[velvet narwhal]

that's the only reason why it'd give you an xnb error

[grand badge]

for testing my hair

[rancid temple]

My answer wasn't to you, sorry I haven't seen your question

[velvet narwhal]

!unpack for heads

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[tough crater]

The exact same

I'm following the guide on the modding wiki

[grand badge]

aint that like 100 hads tho

heads

[velvet narwhal]

yes, the farmer is a paper doll

[grand badge]

wait is that a thing im not supposed to send or

[velvet narwhal]

it might be your load target then
your load needs to look like: "Target": "Character/YOURNPCNAMEHERE, Portraits/YOURNPCNAMEHERE", "FromFile": "wherever you put your character/portraits"

please delete

[latent mauve]

We encourage people to unpack their own files, sending the unpacked files here is redistribution, which is generally not allowed 🙂

[grand badge]

ok

[rancid temple]

Generally, I think the rule is you're allowed to unpack and decompile for your own use, so you shouldn't be sending the internal files in public places

Grey area modding

[velvet narwhal]

mostly because we don't want to contribute to the pirating of the game

[grand badge]

Man cant believe they made them areas grey gotta repaint them smh

[velvet narwhal]

buy it, it's literally $7.50 usd sometimes

[rancid temple]

Well, grey is better than illegal lmao

[grand badge]

Im just being stupid

Ik Im just making a bad joke

[velvet narwhal]

not you, it's just a general thing i get irked about when people want us to give them the whole unpack

[grand badge]

dang

thats like the whole game tho

[rancid temple]

All 168 MB of content lmao

[grand badge]

167mb

[rancid temple]

Those glossy 16 bit images really eat up the space

[lucid iron]

isnt it the sound

[rancid temple]

I don't have the sound unpacked currently

[grand badge]

grrr sound

[rancid temple]

The packed files is ~535MB so sound is probably a big part of that lol

[brittle pasture]

Disk Usage Analyzer spotted

[lucid iron]

why is this ss explode

[rancid temple]

It become poop

[lucid iron]

anyways the fonts take up 51mb and chinese font is 22mb

i did wonder about the odd highres font

[grand badge]

ye im way too confused on how to test out the hair

[lucid iron]

just load it in game and use the mirror

[grand badge]

danm gotta code

wheres that guide again for fashion

[brittle pasture]

https://github.com/Floogen/FashionSense/wiki/Creating-a-Hairstyle-Content-Pack
You can copy the sample FS pack and drop your sprites in, and some other code changes (ie. defining your hair's size)

[grand badge]

wheres the fs pack

[brittle pasture]

https://github.com/Floogen/FashionSense/tree/development/FashionSense/Examples/[FS] Example Pack/Hairs

[rancid musk]

Have some time so I thought I should update my stuff for 1.6.9, and... Steam's haunted. lol

[rancid temple]

It's taunting you

[grand badge]

there mostly templates

[rancid temple]

The spookiest thing steam could do for Halloween is break

[rancid musk]

lmao I even restarted Steam and it's still happening. I think I need to remove it and reinstall it

[brittle pasture]

I think that's the closest lol
You want to download the "[FS] Example Pack" folder, delete everything you don't need (every folder aside from Hairs, and every folder in Hairs aside from one)

Anyway I gotta run urgently so someone else can help with how to download that folder from GitHub

[grand badge]

ok

how do i download it again

[lucid iron]

u could also just download a hair mod

from nexus

[grand badge]

i hate github with my soul

[rancid musk]

What the heck it's still doing it okay Steam is really haunted

[lucid iron]

non C# mods for stardew are plain text, u can just open it up

[velvet narwhal]

moon's haunted

[next plaza]

How can the moon be haunted when MMR hasn't been made yet /s

(I mean, it's been started, but it isn't very far along)

[lucid iron]

oh khloe i think the main thing that broke for better crafting is quest complete stuff https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Migrate_to_Stardew_Valley_1.6.9#Quest_event_revamp

the other big one is light source change to string id

[rancid musk]

Yeah, so I've heard. I'm going to do evil reflection stuff to make one build that works for both 1.6.8 and 1.6.9 probably.

[grand badge]

download sesamie

nope

doh

[lucid iron]

again i really think it'd be easier for you to just go download a hair mod from nexus

[grand badge]

oki doki

any recomended ones for this

[near sierra]

Can you create the XNB through code? I’m super confused, since everybody I ask suggests that the XNB isn’t even needed.

[lucid iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/27595

you might not need 36 hairs ofc, but u can inspect other mods for the format

[grand badge]

there sprites diffrent than mine

[lucid iron]

you need all 4 directions yes

[grand badge]

the template i got there only have 3

oh wait its just flip middle

[lucid iron]

might be fs thing where left and right is flipped?

[grand badge]

ok

idk ill just use what i got

mod is ready i just dump it in smapi right

[rancid temple]

You aren't creating an xnb, you need to do a Load for your location event asset before you can edit it, since it's for a new location

[grand badge]

or stardrop

[near sierra]

So, referring to the two JSON files I had attached, what would I change? Is there a statement I need to move or add somewhere in either file?

[rancid temple]

At the bottom of SpiritField.json you have a Load where you're loading SpiritField.json, that definitely needs to go away

[rancid musk]

Okay I guess I need to use depotdownloader to update Stardew, because Steam is incapable of not freaking out if I activate the alpha

This is ridiculous

[rancid temple]

Do you mean the beta?

[rancid musk]

Whatever it is, 1.6.9

[near sierra]

I had a feeling I shouldn’t be including that part.

[rancid temple]

Just checking since I don't have access to an alpha and dunno what happens if you try to access something old like that

[rancid musk]

Oh finally. I cleared some caches, and now it's working.

[rancid temple]

You should create a blank.json somewhere in your files, wherever you want, and then at the top of SpiritField.json or in your content.json you need a Load action that loads that blank json into Data/Events/HalfAlive.SpiritFieldsContentPack_SpiritWorld

Your blank.json should consist only of {} and nothing else and you'll never make direct changes to it

[near sierra]

Okay, I’ll try that.

[grand badge]

That aint good

[rancid temple]

You will also need to Load that blank into any other Data/Events/YourLocationHere that is a new location that you're trying to add events to

[rain basalt]

..< just got a comment on one of my experimental mods saying it kills there textures was like how did it kill your textures and they responded with well i installed your mod and a few otheres and even after deleting yours my textures are messed up ... like bro did you unistall the other mods as well and see if that fixed it cause my mod doesnt mess with textures...

[rancid temple]

I installed your free mod and got terminal cancer, I want a refund

[rain basalt]

k heres $0.00 back

[rancid temple]

Thanks, still mad

[grand badge]

welp I got no idea what i did wrong

[rain basalt]

lol so what mod gave you cancer the junimo buildings, bet it was the froggie mail boxes, couldnt be cellars. might be more greenhouses hear the extra sunlight is deadly

[rancid musk]

oh my god now VIsual Studio just straight up crashed when opening my modding repo what is this why is my computer haunted

[rain basalt]

its October

[rain basalt]

yep deffinatly the froggie mail boxes give cancer lol

[rancid temple]

Spoiler alert: it wasn't even your mod probably was something titled "THIS MOD WILL GIVE YOU CANCER IF YOU DOWNLOAD IT"

[rain basalt]

lol

so this is the well im making for junimo buildings mod any way to get it to animate like the windmills?

[lucid iron]

you need draw layers

[ebon lotus]

yep, this worked, thank you!

[lucid iron]

basically the windmill has 1 big sprite and a number of smaller animated sprites

use draw layer to specify where to get the smaller animated sprites

[rain basalt]

yah i just wana make the junimo bounce up and down to turn the handle

[lucid iron]

since there's some transparency involved u prob want to exclude the rect that is meant to animate entirely

from the big sprite

[rain basalt]

yah id cut the section out and animate seperatly

[digital sundial]

Anyone have an example on how to go about making a new slingshot with the 1.6 update? It's been hard to do without Archery and the other options don't really have slingshot compatibility.

[rain basalt]

different effects or just a new look?

[digital sundial]

A separate item from base slingshot. Basically to make a new one to be sold at the Adventurer Guild.

[rain basalt]

thanks ill look more into the draw layers

[digital sundial]

(And eventually a separate shop entirely when I get around to it.)

[lucid iron]

C#

[rain basalt]

just copy the sling shot data from the files data/weapons edit it for your new style use CP to add data into the file then you can add it to the shop data as a sellable item/weapon

but any more advanced you would need to hit c#

[lucid iron]

rn 3 weapon ids are hardcoded to have class slingshot

32 33 34

you cannot make a 4th one without C#

[digital sundial]

Yeah that's what I figured

[sweet sphinx]

normal, master, and what's the third slingshot?

[lucid iron]

unused galaxy slingshot, sve makes it available

[sweet sphinx]

ah

[lucid iron]

im not really sure if there is point in making new slingshot item entirely

u can make custom slingshot ammo with emc i think

https://github.com/zombifier/My_Stardew_Mods/tree/master/ExtraMachineConfig#items-that-can-be-used-as-slingshot-ammo

[vague acorn]

Can i make an entity drop something like how ducks can drop duck feathers and stuff?

[sweet sphinx]

yeah, it's just the produce thing, set as drop overnight

[vague acorn]

wdym?

[vague acorn]

yeah i see

i need to edit DeluxeProduceItemIds

but can i actually add modded item ids here?

[brittle pasture]

sure you can, use TargetField to drill into DeluxeProduceIds field and add a new entry for your new animal produce

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editdata.md#target-field

[vague acorn]

so i place something like this:

{
  "Id": "Default",
  "Condition": null,
  "MinimumFriendship": 0,
  "ItemId": "MODID.itemId"
}

?

that's it?

[brittle pasture]

yeah that should work

[vague acorn]

now i wonder how ill test it XD

[brittle pasture]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Console_commands has a bunch of commands to quickly set up a test save

debug setupbigfarm is particularly useful, and so are the ones under "Farm animals"

[vague acorn]

oh i found another problem XD i cannot have something that is both "DropOvernight" and "HarvestWithTool"

cause i wanted cows to drop stuff

[brittle pasture]

Nope, game limitation
Extra Animal Config however supports overriding the harvest method for a specific produce:
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/25328

[vague acorn]

oh perfect

[brittle pasture]

The documentation is a bit sparse rn, but you can check out Milkable Sheep for an example

It adds sheep milk and override its harvest method to be the pail

[scenic heath]

How does GMCM determine the "valid" values for a slider bar?

[brittle pasture]

though fyi if a cow drops meat then it can't be milked that day, only one produce per day
If you want both milk and meat, you need to use the "extra drops" feature of Extra Animal Config

(For which there are no examples and terrible documentation. I'm sorry)

[desert light]

I'm looking at a method on the WildTreeChopItemData class. This is the method:

    public bool IsValidForGrowthStage(int size, bool isStump)
    {
        if (size == 4) {
            size = 3;
        }
        if ((int?)size < (int?)MinSize) {
            return false;
        }
        if ((int?)size > (int?)MaxSize) {
            return false;
        }
        if (ForStump.HasValue && ForStump != isStump) {
            return false;
        }
        return true;
    }

where MinSize and MaxSize are properties defined as

    public WildTreeGrowthStage? MinSize { get; set; }
    public WildTreeGrowthStage? MaxSize { get; set; }

and WildTreeGrowthStage is an enum defined as

enum WildTreeGrowthStage {
  Seed = 0,
  Sprout = 1,
  Sapling = 2,
  Bush = 3,
  Tree = 5,
}

Can someone explain to me or show me a resource about how the expressions (int?)size < (int?)MinSize and (int?)size > (int?)MaxSize evaluate in C# ? My understanding is that both values are being cast to nullable integer types, but I do not understand how the expressions evaluate if one or both of them are null.

[brave fable]

oh my god what do you mean crows have a shop in the base game

that's like feature 32940 of this neverending gd mod that's been absorbed in before it's even released

[brittle pasture]

"1.6.9 will mainly be bug fixes for mod authors"

[brittle pasture]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/15777745/how-does-comparison-operator-works-with-null-int

[agile notch]

Objects are the default type for items in inventories or placed in the world.

They have their data in Data/Objects (Data/ObjectInformation prior to 1.6)

wew, explains a lot
trying to get back into sdv by making my mods up to date
gotta say, this is much nicer than just splitting whatever's in ObjectInformation using /'s lol

[brittle pasture]

Almost every asset in 1.6 is migrated away from slash delimited strings to proper data models!

(almost every )
but yeah it's much much more convenient

[sweet sphinx]

which one's aren't?

[agile notch]

Yeahhh was wondering why nothing was loading and my old object data dictionary was null when trying to debug haha

also looks like ItemIds are just strings now, was that part of the 1.6 changes?

[tender bloom]

Furniture

[brittle pasture]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Migrate_to_Stardew_Valley_1.6 is helpful
the most notable ones at the top of my head are crafting/cooking, hats, furniture and some item types

[brave fable]

that was pretty much the catalyst of 1.6 hahah

[tender bloom]

Yes

String IDs are one of the biggest changes

[sweet sphinx]

ah

[agile notch]

Ahhh, explains a lot too hahaha

[brave fable]

every change in 1.6 was just a trickle from the waterfall of string IDs

[tender bloom]

You’ll probably see a lot of “type not matching” kind of errors in your code

[brittle pasture]

life is good in 1.6 land
(except for cooking. raaahhh)

[sweet sphinx]

now I get to spend the next however long to add all the object entries for my gold plated foods

[tender bloom]

There was also SMAPI 4.0.0 if your code predates that, which was a bit of an overhaul to the asset pipeline iirc

[brave fable]

true. i hate cooking

[tender bloom]

Hate it so much you overhauled it? 😛

[next plaza]

Brb hacking blueberry's Nexus account and renaming Love of Cooking to Hate of Cooking

[brave fable]

loathe of cooking

[lucid iron]

what is the opposite of cooking

[sweet sphinx]

freezing

[next plaza]

Disassembling

[brave fable]

eating

[brittle pasture]

if cooking is turning raw ingredients into food, uuhh composting? turn organic materials back into plant food

[uncut viper]

chemical dissolution

[next plaza]

Raw ingredients, technically, are already food

[lucid iron]

composting is just cooking for tiny creatures

[brave fable]

compost heap is the original infinite stew 🙏

[lucid iron]

wait so did you want to make a mod where crows have a shop

[brave fable]

crows are kinda half the thing of this mod lol

[tender bloom]

Molecular rearrangement

[brave fable]

back to the drawing board again

[tender bloom]

Crows come in flocks

[brittle pasture]

crow farm animals that have a 5% chance every day to fly away forever

[tender bloom]

You could decide more crows more better

They could be fruends

[lucid iron]

corvids are a big group

[tender bloom]

Blue jays!

Ravens

[sweet sphinx]

i prefer ravens

they have purple in their hues

[brittle ledge]

Doesn't Ornithologist already have a shop run by a crow? Can't believe CA ripped them off smh /j

[brave fable]

wtf

now i'm not just late, i'm unoriginal

[sweet sphinx]

is it a crow animal or crow anthro?

[brittle ledge]

Animal.

[lucid iron]

yea kyle the raven

i like magpies, they melt on the ground like this for sun bathing

[sweet sphinx]

I wish I could do that rn, so cold >.<;

[agile notch]

Alright... think I've got the mod updated for 1.6 / SMAPI 4, everything seems to work 🤞
Do I want to be setting the MinimumApiVersion to 4.0.0 now that it's up to date before publishing to nexus? apparently it's at 3.18 from when I last made changes

[vague acorn]

how do I use TargetField to insert into a target like this:

"DeluxeProduceItemIds": [
      {
        "Id": "Default",
        "Condition": null,
        "MinimumFriendship": 0,
        "ItemId": "186"
      }
    ]

where you have to enter an inner object into it

[tender bloom]

It’s not strictly necessary but it’s totally reasonable

[tough crater]

I finally got my character to load!!! I had to load the portrait and characters in a separate chunk. Originally the blankload was blank.json instead of assets/{{TargetPathOnly}}/{{TargetWithoutPath}}.png I also had a FEW syntax errors. Now time to investigate my i18n file for the little bugs there 😭 I'm just glad I can see my character on screen

[tender bloom]

I’m on my phone and doing this from memory, but the general idea is something like “ TargetField”: [“Cat”, “Breed”]

There should be examples in the CP docs

[sweet sphinx]

how does the game spell cauliflower? bc it's not recognising mine in the search bar

[tender bloom]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editdata.md#target-field

This should be the docs on target field

[vague acorn]

i looked at it, but it does not say what to do in case of my issue

[tender bloom]

Pretty sure it’s spelled the normal way

[vague acorn]

since the values that they try to input are normal strings and not other json objects

[tender bloom]

What is the original and what are you trying to change it to?

[vague acorn]

im not trying to change it, but to add to it another entry

[sweet sphinx]

turns out I was searching in the wrong area

[brittle pasture]

it should be the same, you "TargetField": ["White Cow", DeluxeProduceIds"]
and then in Entries you would have
"YourIdHere": { put stuff here }

That will insert a new entry with Id = YourIdHere into the list

[vague acorn]

{
  "Action": "EditData",
  "Target": "Data/FarmAnimals",
  "TargetField": [ "Brown Cow", "DeluxeProduceItemIds" ],
  "Fields": {
    "{{ModId}}_beef": {
      "Id": "Default",
      "Condition": null,
      "MinimumFriendship": 0,
      "ItemId": "{{ModId}}_beef"
    }
  }
}

like this?

[brittle pasture]

Change Default to your Id in the above line

but yes

[vague acorn]

oh i see

okay

[brittle pasture]

Whoops also change Fields to Entries

[vague acorn]

now i just have to pray that it works... XD

[acoustic summit]

I made a little trailer video for my mod in #1292662310305005609, video editing is fun. Idk if I can post links here but yeah

[potent canyon]

Would anyone happen to know where the four statues from Leah's 8 heart event would be in the files?

[brittle pasture]

Post your video in images-and-memes? idk lol, maybe a mod can confirm before you get sent to the shadow realm

[ornate trellis]

the accursed Cursors

[potent canyon]

Oh no wonder I couldn't find it, thank you so much!

[acoustic summit]

Cursors is a mess of a file, but its also useful in its messiness

[ornate trellis]

in doubt its always cursors

[vague acorn]

should i change the ItemId to the itayfeder.{{modid}}_beef or keep it as is?

or should it be (O){{modid}}_beef

cause how I do it right now does not work

[brittle pasture]

if your username is already in modid then no need
(O) is unnecessary in animal produce

[vague acorn]

it's not

[brittle pasture]

Post your current code at smapi.io/json?

then you can add your username to the mod id
though that will break existing items in your current test save

[vague acorn]

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/9e2cbe1df7bc4e6f87378dbe974f1505

oh wait

im stupid

i didn't add it to the base contents XD

yup still nothing for me

[brittle pasture]

did you try a new day

[vague acorn]

okay now it worked for some reason

huh

[brittle pasture]

animal produce are determined before the game saves, so if you make changes you have to go sleep every time for the changes to apply

[vague acorn]

ill do further attempts tomorrow since it's like 12pm now XD

but it seems like it works pretty well!

thank you so very much for the help!

[brittle pasture]

no prob and let me know if you have further questions with EAC

[brave fable]

eac is a new tla. edit action changes? extracting a calf?

[acoustic summit]

I did end up putting it in #images-and-memes to be safe haha - its a fun thing to make after the stress of publishing a mod.

[brittle pasture]

Eliminate All Chickens

[teal bridge]

Extra Animal... Cack? Wasn't your mod the poop mod?

[brittle pasture]

one more thing, when you're done with your code pls ping me with it, there's an issue in my mod that might make yours incompatible with Milkable Sheep, and I can fix it

(the issue should be fixed when I update EAC to 1.6.9 but you'd still need the code changes regardless)

[brave fable]

is milkable sheep a real mod i can't tell now

[brittle pasture]

Config
and yes I'm also the author of poop mod

[lucid iron]

Yeah it does what it says on the tin

There's also juicable pigs

[teal bridge]

At least sheep produce milk, unlike that freaky milkable pig mod.

Sorry, juicable pigs. shudder

[brave fable]

pigs are mammals, they're compatible

[lucid iron]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/25414

[brave fable]

maybe i've still got a chance to be original. milk the crows

that'll teach them

[teal bridge]

I suppose I should have worded it as "produce milk that humans consume".

But I suppose if the game already has snake milk, then the sky's the limit... sure, milk the crows.

[brave fable]

it only takes one person for your whole system to break down

one very brave person

[tough crater]

What's going on with my i18n? the name for it is default.json in case that's the problem

[teal bridge]

Actually no, since I don't deal in absurd absolutes, the statement is still true if one person does that.

[lucid iron]

Flamingos make milk

[brave fable]

(no)

[lucid iron]

Did you try to use multiple lines in default.json

[teal bridge]

(Nothing to squint at. You can find people out there who eat tree bark, or attempt to. Doesn't mean tree bark is considered edible or fit for human consumption.)

[tough crater]

I think so in the more literal sense.

[ivory plume]

That's probably (no translation:<key>), which gets split by the dialogue parsing. Try double-checking that your translation keys are correct?

[finite ginkgo]

If this is your default.json, tokens don't work in the key, you'd have to type out the modid manually

[lucid iron]

you dont need mod id anyways

[tough crater]

I swear I saw this on the modding wiki 😭

[ivory plume]

There's no need to use {{ModId}} in translation keys; they're only accessible within your own mod.

[finite ginkgo]

But I'd suggest just not putting in your modid in the keys at all, they're unique to your mod, there's going to be no conflicts between mods

[tough crater]

that makes too much sense. lemme fix that 😂

[velvet narwhal]

(unless you're making multiple NPCs)

[tough crater]

It's only one NPC in this mod

[sweet sphinx]

this is a travesty, why are sweatpeas edible but rhubarb isn't?!?

[brave fable]

rhubarb is poisonous if not cooked and prepared

should've been -100 edibility

[teal bridge]

In b4 snail sashimi.

[lucid iron]

is sweatpeas like

something other than sweet pea

[sweet sphinx]

yeah, it's the flower

different plant

[lucid iron]

sounds pretty edible to me

[brittle pasture]

pls no we debated this for 2 hours yesterday

[teal bridge]

Definitely not a sweat bee. Don't eat those.

[sweet sphinx]

yeah, and wasn't the end result that seatpeas are inedible/poisonous?

[brave fable]

i'm good for round 2 on the debate if you are

[teal bridge]

Wikipedia says they're toxic in very large quantities (and Wikipedia is always right, of course). That to me means "about as toxic as any other flower".

[sweet sphinx]

I'm looking up Rhubarb, and it says that the leaves are poisonous, but not the stalks

so, again, wtf is rhubarb not edible??

[teal bridge]

Rhubarb is poisonous, not "mildly toxic".

[brave fable]

the farmer just drops the whole food in his mouth. he wouldn't stand a chance

[sweet sphinx]

While the oxalic acid content of rhubarb leaves can vary, a typical value is about 0.5%,[51] meaning a 65 kg adult would need to eat 4 to 8 kg (9 to 18 lbs) to obtain a lethal dose, depending on which lethal dose is assumed.

[ornate trellis]

rhubarbs leaves are poisonous, the stalk is edible raw. you can dip it in sugar to level out the tart taste

[brave fable]

rhubarb sashimi...

[sweet sphinx]

even if the farmer did eat the whole thing, leaves included, they wouldn't die from it

[ornate trellis]

our neighbour from where we used to live loved eating it as a snack for some reason..

[sweet sphinx]

many rescipies

[brittle pasture]

thx for the idea, now I'm going to extend my future joke mod to "Everything Sashimi"
Apple Sashimi? Sure. Kale Sashimi? Heck yeah. Iridium Bar Sashimi? Why not

[brave fable]

iridium bar isn't raw though, it's been cooked

[sweet sphinx]

what is sashimi?

[teal bridge]

Sashimi is fish or meat. There's no apple or kale sashimi.

[brittle pasture]

hmm Iridium Ore Sashimi

https://minimalistbaker.com/watermelon-sashimi/

[teal bridge]

People can name their recipes whatever they want, but that isn't sashimi, it's chopped up watermelon made to look vaguely like sashimi.

[tough crater]

Removing them fixed it instantly!

[teal bridge]

Just like "vegan pulled pork" is most obviously not pork.

[tough crater]

I appreciate the help I get in this server 😭 Yall always got answers when the wikis don't

[sweet sphinx]

Vegan "Pulled Pork"

[brittle pasture]

everyone's a critic nowadays smh

[teal bridge]

Yeah, but I was a critic before it was cool.

[ornate trellis]

qi fruit sashimi

i keep the sunglasses on

[sweet sphinx]

https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cookbook:Rhubarb_Fool

[lucid iron]

a frame mod that i think would be cool is

[teal bridge]

That is a cooked dish. Rhubarb is safe when cooked, we've established that.

[lucid iron]

generic way to give things TAS effect like smoked fish

then u can give sashimi from - edible things foul odors

[sweet sphinx]

the name, and the wiki pic

[brittle pasture]

EMC do support smoked effects, it is hard coded though

[teal bridge]

Eh? Whatever the joke is, I guess it went over my head.

[lucid iron]

yea expose that

at least the colors

[brittle pasture]

Yeah I was thinking of a more generic particle system for items

[lucid iron]

i also wanted to do that but for enchantments

[tender bloom]

Watermelon does have this weird thing where cooking it with savory flavors CAN make it taste surprisingly meaty

[brittle pasture]

Didnt get around to it yet

[lucid iron]

give them sparkles for different enchant

like in the hit game elder scrolls V skyrim

[sweet sphinx]

we also have umami seasoning now, just make everything taste like m e a t

[teal bridge]

Doesn't SpaceCore implement the generic animation thing?

[brittle pasture]

that will be a fun idea once the 1.6.9 chaos die down

[ivory plume]

(Speaking of which, time to kick the hornet's nest.)

[brittle pasture]

yeah, but TAS are different than anims

[lucid iron]

spacecore replaces the whole sprite

[velvet narwhal]

(i'm afraid of that)

[ivory plume]

<@&475534019782508564> Stardew Valley 1.6.9 will release in one week (around November 4th)!

This is a hefty update, so some mods will break. If you want your mods ready on release day, now is a good time to get the beta and prepare your updates. There are no major changes planned between the current beta and the final release.

For more info:

• Get the 1.6.9 beta. (Please do not share that link online; ideally we'd like a low-key beta without media attention.)
• 1.6.9 draft release notes
• 1.6.9 mod author migration guide

SMAPI and Content Patcher already have beta versions available on Nexus, including initial compatibility rewriters for existing mods.

Feel free to ask if you have any questions about updating your mods!

[lucid iron]

wow

[tender bloom]

Ooh pathos jumpscare!

[velvet narwhal]

oh i'm finally a mod author to get pinged

[wanton pebble]

agh a ping

[uncut viper]

cant get jumpscared if you're not a mod author. good thing i have no mods

[brave fable]

did you really have to break up my 1 and 69 reacts like that
how unseemly

[ornate trellis]

[grizzled rain]

somebody @ ed me and i was like AAAAAA but then i look and im like "oh thank god its just pathos"

[agile notch]

[sweet sphinx]

do I gotta update my mods? considering I started making them like 5 days ago

[velvet narwhal]

cp is relatively untouched

[lucid iron]

the 1 6 9 looks fine to me

[haughty charm]

Double check the migration guide to see if your mods will be affected. 🙂

[golden basin]

sticks leggy out

[wanton pebble]

Is this where I go "can we get gift dialogues for specific gift tastes for the Winter Star" with exactly one week remaining?

(I kid, I know it's too late for that XD )

[lucid iron]

i been in 1.6.9 mode for weeks now im ready

[velvet narwhal]

wait i thought we did?

[wanton pebble]

not tastes, A-Sauroen

[tender bloom]

If you’re not making C# mods you mostly don’t need to worry

[velvet narwhal]

oh not tastes only tags

[sweet sphinx]

cool

[wanton pebble]

We have:

WinterStar_ReceiveGift_<id>
WinterStar_ReceiveGift_<tag>
WinterStar_ReceiveGift

So it allows item ID and tags or a baseline one, but not by gift taste

[brittle pasture]

you do need to slightly worry if you add colored flowers/artisan goods
but that's one extra line

[wanton pebble]

I'm not seriously asking for it, although if it does somehow happen I won't complain at all

I know it's far too late for that XD

[brittle pasture]

hi six thousand four hundred and eighty

[velvet narwhal]

maybe a pr? lest it get approved if it's small enough

[sweet sphinx]

do my gold plated foods count? bc they're artisan goods

[brittle pasture]

no ur good

[brave fable]

you want gift tastes to be updated for winter star only, but not the frightening relic that's the actual gift taste data? smh

[sweet sphinx]

cool

[knotty phoenix]

oh this really doesn't change much for CP huh

phew

[wanton pebble]

What can I say, I'm hyper specific to my mod tastes 😛

[lapis creek]

YoUr MoD iS CaUsInG mY ShEeP tO rAnDoMlY ExPlOdE (no dont look at the rest of my 1000 mods installed including 100 xmbs and a mod called "Combustable Sheep"). here's a real halloween scare ping for you

[grizzled rain]

NAURRRR😭🙏

[velvet narwhal]

like button says, open up the migration page like the morning newspaper

[tight rivet]

Huh. That's a nice list of fixes.

[outer kernel]

it doesnt say we shouldnt share the draft release notes link

[sweet sphinx]

wait, are gift tastes different for the festival??

[thin hamlet]

First mod author ping!

Ill look thru if i have time 🙂

[lapis creek]

yeah but thats Pathos and pathos can do what they want

[spice inlet]

time to report pathos for sharing the link publicly online

[ivory plume]

(It's fine to discuss the changes or post any of those links on Discord. It's just better to avoid posting it on Bluesky/Reddit/etc so it's not picked up by news sites.)

[sweet sphinx]

ahh

[drowsy pewter]

this is how i find out pathos has an unused bsky

[tender bloom]

Get pathos to follow you!

[ivory plume]

(I only post on social media to reply to questions about mods and such, I don't really post anything otherwise.)

[tender bloom]

I’m too old for this newfangled social media 😛 ignore that I’m younger than pathos I’m pretty sure

[drowsy pewter]

says the person posting on a social media platform rn

[lucid mulch]

I'm only twitter, and even then almost exclusively just read

Don't remember the last post I actually made

[sweet sphinx]

i'm like 90% sure it's inedible solely bc the farmer can't gulp down a whole pumpkin in one go

[brittle pasture]

I mean the farmer can eat an entire sturgeon

[spice inlet]

there's too many uninformed low effort opinions on twitter to make it worthwhile to read imo

[sweet sphinx]

how big is a sturgeon? /gen

[tender bloom]

Lalalala I can’t hear you 😛 I really do only have this and Facebook though

[lucid iron]

sturgeons r hueg

tunas too

[lucid mulch]

Just follow better people, skill issue.

[lucid iron]

and its not just irl the game gives their length lol

[sweet sphinx]

so then why are pumkins inedible??

[uncut viper]

because theyre not supposed to be a food item

[tender bloom]

Rind too thick

[lapis creek]

cos they gross, obvs

[tender bloom]

But probably to give variety and balance?

[uncut viper]

whether something is technically edible irl or not is not the sole determination of game mechanics

[tender bloom]

Like some foods are better for cooking or processing and some are better for eating

[sweet sphinx]

my possibly edible gold plated pumpkin tho

[latent mauve]

I like the GSQ changes, I can finally do custom dialogue if I talk to someone with their favorite ||trinket|| equipped, without having to gift them. xD

[tender bloom]

I wouldn’t eat a gold plated pumpkin personally

But maybe other people would

[sweet sphinx]

Not even for the possible buffs?

[tender bloom]

It sounds like it would hurt my teeth

[velvet narwhal]

never been a fan of that gold flake bougie stuff imo

[brittle pasture]

also just in case you arent aware there is already a gold pumpkin in the game
like the one in button's username (if you're reading this message before October 31st)

[velvet narwhal]

(i am also allergic to most metals under the sun)

[sweet sphinx]

People can bite through gold irl

[teal bridge]

Gold leaf is edible, but like Button said...

[sweet sphinx]

I know

[teal bridge]

While it might be fun for a while to debate the edibility of Rhubarb vs. Sweetpea, it's a game.

[sweet sphinx]

But based on the sell price of vanilla Golden Pumpkins, I wanna say it's solid gold, mine are simply gold-plated

[teal bridge]

It's worth considerably more than a gold ingot, in fact.

[bright panther]

i love both using and not using FAudio

[ivory plume]

(The changelog in that post is outdated; you can check the draft release notes links for the up-to-date list.)

[bright panther]

alright

[calm nebula]

looks you in the eye and eats pumpkins

[bright panther]

[calm nebula]

I exclusively follow this one guy who decaps ICs and takes photos of them

[whole raptor]

Is it just me or is this changelog longer than for 1.6.0?

[hallow prism]

for players possibly, but it's because :

• there is not all the modding change listed
• there is a lot of bug fixes, which require listing each one of them (so people can know it's fixed, and so people can report unintended change)

i don't think the update is bigger in term of content/modding content

[whole raptor]

True, content wise it's definitely less, but fix wise it's massive (good for us I guess )

Also just took a peak at new dialogue keys... do we have all the functionality of Custom Fixed Dialogue in vanilla or is something still there to justify using it?

[velvet narwhal]

what else did CFD have?

[sweet sphinx]

1. Sweet gem berries price is 3,000
2. Sweet gem berries are inedible

why are they so expensive(and why aren't people doing profit off of these?) and why the inedibility??

[velvet narwhal]

(unless CFD let you target the wedding strings without affecting other npcs, i honestly don't know what else CFD has that vanilla doesn't)

[uncut viper]

do you know what a sweet gem berry is

[sweet sphinx]

...no?

[hallow prism]

they are basically here so you can get something shiny from the traveling cart, people don't like growing them because getting seeds is a lot of work and there's simpler option

[uncut viper]

they are the rare seed from the traveling cart

they take 24 fall days to grow, and cost 1,000 to buy

[hallow prism]

oh i thought you meant like, IRL

i was expecting to discover that it's based on a real thing that is like poisonous or whatever 😄

[sweet sphinx]

this question made me think it was a rocky mountain oysters situation

[uncut viper]

i thought you just werent sure what they were in game and wondering why ppl didnt grow em more

[brave fable]

Added an ItemGrabMenu constructor to copy an existing menu (e.g. when reopening it).
wonder if this would be useful for craftingpage replacer mods

[acoustic summit]

Id say its inedible largely to prevent people from accidentally eating the one sweet gem berry they grow in fall

[teal bridge]

Well, they are inedible to the farmer, but not to certain creatures.

[sweet sphinx]

nah, i know about them, just questioning why people didn't grow more/make profit off of them

can you make seeds of them with the seed maker?

[calm nebula]

Bluebs plz

[teal bridge]

Because they're (a) limited and (b) not really all that profitable when you consider all the factors.