making-mods-general

[lucid iron]

if u want u could have em as separate png files

and then EditImage em into 1 texture

[calm nebula]

that said, I find it easier to have cohesive art if they're one texture

[next plaza]

True. (Myuu and I have been talking about optimizations for that recently)

[gaunt orbit]

Yeaaaah

[sweet sphinx]

it's a lot for one collection, not a lot compared to furries

[lucid iron]

i was worried about doing Game1.content.load when i make projectile

as opposed to using the shared one

[next plaza]

...what?

[velvet narwhal]

(1) fear

[gaunt orbit]

I hear batching is not as big an issue with Vulkan but afaik monogame doesn't support it yet

[lucid iron]

is this likely to explode things

[hallow prism]

to erupt things? 😄

[lucid iron]

i did this bc i wanted to have custom projectile textures and did not think of better way to net sync stuff

[uncut viper]

(i think they mistook your second msg about the texture limit as being in response to their joke)

[gaunt orbit]

The content pipeline caches things. It will return the shared instance if it is loaded

That said it's still not a good idea to call it every frame

[uncut viper]

is it considered bad for performance if i split my individual item .pngs into quarters and then reconstruct a Texture2D from scratch by setting individual pixels, loaded from those quarters?

just in case i need to super mix and match them, yknow

[velvet narwhal]

wasn't it good performance to 9splice? do it that way

[uncut viper]

#modded-stardew

[calm nebula]

9-splicing is a technique to get various-sized boxen

it's fine. 9-slicing is fine

[uncut viper]

boxen...

[lucid iron]

oxes

[faint rampart]

Thank you so much 🙂 reposting there

[ornate trellis]

[gaunt orbit]

9 slices are 9 draws /18 tris with the same texture, the performance impact is minimal

[teal bridge]

Individual texture files are hell on load times. Everything in Stardew is single-threaded and the syscall overhead of a thousand texture files is enormous compared to one texture file with a thousand sprites.

[ornate trellis]

so asking for a later time but i know i can do input-output type machines but can i also make produce-daily kinda machines like wormbin with CP only 👀

[teal bridge]

Making 4 vs 1 isn't going to be a huge difference, but 10 or 100 vs. 1, definitely adds up.

[gaunt orbit]

Yes

Almost any vanilla machine can be replicated with just cp

The cask, incubator, tree tapper, lightning rod, crab pot, and geode crusher are exceptions IIRC

[ornate trellis]

sweet

[sweet sphinx]

oh?

[gaunt orbit]

That looks nice!

[sweet sphinx]

:D

[brittle pasture]

though if your golden carrot is index 0 that won't work

[velvet narwhal]

i do not look at the crab pot, it does not exist

[sweet sphinx]

why?

[gaunt orbit]

Will it not?

[sweet sphinx]

not sure what index it is, but I'm curious

[gaunt orbit]

If it's in the most upper left it's 0

[sweet sphinx]

ah

[uncut viper]

they wouldnt be able to get the index for the beehouse i think

[velvet narwhal]

the top of the beehive is considered index 3, right? or does it take indexes from the bottom when it's a bigcraftable

[uncut viper]

the index for a machine though will calculate things in BC size, no?

[brittle pasture]

it's because from the BC's perspective the sprite sheet looks like this

[sweet sphinx]

oh, do the silkhouses need to be on even lines?

ah

ok

[gaunt orbit]

Ah yeah

[sweet sphinx]

simple fix

move the silkhouses

[brittle pasture]

I dont have the words to explain without a 30 sec gimp mockup lol

[velvet narwhal]

i would've put it into mspaint

[gaunt orbit]

I'm used to dealing with furniture which uses standard-sized cells

[sweet sphinx]

so do the object sprites still work in any spot?

[gaunt orbit]

As long as its in a 16x16 grid

[velvet narwhal]

objects will think in 16x16, but bigcraftables will think in 16x32 like selph said

[sweet sphinx]

nice

I have not touched a single line of code for these, I just got really excited to make the art for them

[gaunt orbit]

Oh damn 1.6.9 is nov 4th. I better get on that and update my mods

[lucid iron]

i am the snek lord pt2

[brittle pasture]

that looks better! only the, uhh, unnatural undulations need fixing unless it's intended

[sweet sphinx]

so, if I want the golden carrot to be crafted, I make it's type "Crafting"?

[lucid iron]

its undulations because each segment is animated too

[brittle pasture]

it doesn't matter, you need to add a crafting recipe to Data/CraftingRecipes

[next plaza]

Hi I have a request:

https://tenor.com/view/theowlhouse-hooty-hoot-hoot-hoot-gif-18105457

[sweet sphinx]

so, then does crafting mean it is used for crafting?

[brave fable]

i'm fairly sure Crafting allows the item to be placed in the world

[sweet sphinx]

oh

[brave fable]

err though i can't actually verify that

[brittle pasture]

think fences/paths/etc.

[sweet sphinx]

ah

beehouses?

[brittle pasture]

nah those are big craftables, a different object type entirely

[brave fable]

bigcraftables use the Crafting category though

.. don't they

[brittle pasture]

I'm not sure, I just know they're not in Data/Objects so the field doesn't apply lol

[lucid iron]

does royal serpents have shadows

[sweet sphinx]

who was gonna tell me fruits and veggies can be used in slingshots, or was I gonna have to read a modding wiki to find that out??

[brittle pasture]

and eggs

[sweet sphinx]

should golden carrot be a veggie or artisan?

[brittle pasture]

depends on which profession you want them to benefit from
and if you want to make golden carrot juice/pickles

[lucid iron]

golden carrot mayo

[sweet sphinx]

. . .pickled golden carrots

that is so sinful

I do not want that

[lucid iron]

if you want u could make a special output for carrot from preserve jar

isnt pickled carrot a normal thing though, its not that removed from pickled radish

[sweet sphinx]

golden carrots tho?

[calm nebula]

petition: kimchi

[frozen field]

I was gonna say too, I think pickled carrots r a thing

[sweet sphinx]

what is kimchi?

[lucid iron]

golden carrot is just fancy rich ppl's parsnip

[sweet sphinx]

like, gold-plated carrots

ripped outta minecraft

[calm nebula]

not, like, in game. I'm petitioning for kimchi to be delivered to my desk.

and by petitioning I mean asking Ubereats. With money.

[finite ginkgo]

im sure gold can be pickled

[sweet sphinx]

it probably can be, considering how soft of a metal it is, but I feel like that sacrilegious to gold

[lucid iron]

tbh it sounds like this gold plated veg thing is some kind of artisan good

[velvet narwhal]

i could kill for some good cucumber kimchi so i contemplated a whole food mod specific to my own tastes

[lucid iron]

like u put veg in some machine and it consumes a gold ore to plate it

[sweet sphinx]

... maybe

[brittle pasture]

basically are there biological materials in your gold carrot

[velvet narwhal]

gold -> mill -> goldflakes -> carrot seeds + goldflakes crafting -> golden carrot

[calm nebula]

(I'm not sure gold can be pickled....)

[sweet sphinx]

yes, they can be eaten

[brittle pasture]

then I see no issue with a succulent cup of gold carrot juice

[sweet sphinx]

why tho XD TwT

[lucid iron]

why not

[sweet sphinx]

it sounds terrible

tho tbh gold isn't poisonous to eat

[sweet sphinx]

tbh I'm thinking a more simpler crafting path
carrot + gold(bar or ore idk yet) -> golden carrot

(funfact, both carrots and gold ore are 25g, gold bars are 250g)

[finite ginkgo]

I mean, that would be the most minecraft complacent, which i assume you're going for, however it doesn't quite fit in with stardew's whole ecosystem imo

[sweet sphinx]

option two is that gold plating machine smn suggested above

[sweet sphinx]

here

[velvet narwhal]

my suggestion is only because the mill is useless to me, so i try to find ways to shoehorn it in

[sweet sphinx]

ah

well, gold dust could be used in the process, but I still wouldn't use carrot seeds

btw, what do yall think the price of a golden (plated) carrot would be?

and additionally, if I can add buffs to the golden (plated) fruits & vegs, what buff(s) would match best?

[granite bluff]

heyo, how can i change a mod's name that will be displayed in nexusmods?

[velvet narwhal]

like... a mod manager's displayed name? manifest

if you mean nexus itself it's just the manage setting

[granite bluff]

yea the displayed name, is totaly off for some reason o.o

[velvet narwhal]

on what?

[granite bluff]

i copied the manifest from another mod (my mod) and changed the variables. maybe thats why, but where can i change it?

[velvet narwhal]

"name" will be the thing displayed on a mod manager if that's what you're asking

should just be the manifest.json

[granite bluff]

hmm thanks, it doesn't apply D:

[velvet narwhal]

your obj folder if you're rebuilding might be screwy

[granite bluff]

ou

i made a new file that worked c:

[velvet narwhal]

(i say my c# suggestions with a 500kg bag of salt behind me because i've made (1) method without help)

[sweet sphinx]

how's this look?

it works

hmmm, I wonder what it is that is making Jas, Sebastian, and Vincent hate this?

[velvet narwhal]

what's category -26

vegetable?

[sweet sphinx]

Artisan goods

[velvet narwhal]

well the children makes sense

[hallow prism]

yeah lot of artisan goods are stuff like coffee, alcohol and pickles

[sweet sphinx]

maybe Sebastion hates carrots or gold or smth

[hallow prism]

you can specify your own gift taste

[sweet sphinx]

I glimpsed that, and it looks like a pain in the ass

[velvet narwhal]

i have a copy paste somewhere

https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Npc_template#NPCGiftTastes.json
you'll want the bonus content part that's slightly below
this one's set to the "loved" gifts being 1

[sweet sphinx]

I don't mind the golden vegs and fruits being "liked"

[tiny zealot]

it's a tricky waterfall of problems.

• for hot reload to work on linux in .net 6, you have to run dotnet watch run specifically. dotnet watch with any other parameters will not enable it.
• for hot reload to actually function, the Stardew/SMAPI process has to be the one that ends up in the foreground (via exec/execve). this rules out letting the linux StardewValley launcher open a separate terminal to run SMAPI.
• when hot reload is active, it reads from the terminal input to check for keystrokes like Ctrl+R. i assume it's a bug, but while this is happening, somewhere between half and most of the keys are eaten and do not echo or have effect. pressing backspace even once causes total and permanent loss of input until process death.
• you are supposed to be able to turn off interactivity for hot reload (disabling input checking) using --non-interactive, but doing so also disables hot reload (not sure if intended behavior), defeating the purpose entirely.
  anyway i was going to try some pipe/fifo shenanigans but i might need a different solution

probably going to end up making a mod that reads input from a fifo and forwards it to SMAPI. gross, but i'm optimistic

[sweet sphinx]

what are these bits next to the ores & gems?

[tender bloom]

they appear when you shatter the ore

[sweet sphinx]

ah

[tender bloom]

although not all of them might be used

some of the "broken" items are definitely unused

if you want to know which ones get used, color them bright red and smash some ores to see what happens

[sweet sphinx]

lol

[brave fable]

incredible, all ores use ruby sprites.

[sweet sphinx]

I just think one'd be good as the gold dust sprite

I like the shape of emeralds'

[tender bloom]

I stole some of them and used them in my Fireworks Festival mod to represent different metal powders

with some editing

I got way too into fireworks chemistry for that mod lol

[sweet sphinx]

we all have insanity for something

[tiny zealot]

actually hang on lmao i think i got it working

[brave fable]

true, one of these days i'm gonna turn into a tree or a small rock or something

[velvet narwhal]

technically... we all turn into trees in death

[brittle pasture]

not me, my body will feed a colony of fungi

[tiny zealot]

OH BABY WE COOKIN

[sweet sphinx]

gold dust

[tender bloom]

sparkly!

[sweet sphinx]

question, how do I know the index number of smth in my tilesheet?

[velvet narwhal]

object = each 16x16 is an index, starting from topleft, going -> until end of edge, starts on the next row

[rancid temple]

I see BC's in that screenshot, so that might cause some issues

[tender bloom]

here carrot = 0

[velvet narwhal]

so your index in terms of objects looks like
0 1 2 (beehive top)3

[tender bloom]

cloth = 2

the sparkles = 5

[sweet sphinx]

I have a 256x256 pixel tilesheet

[ivory plume]

Hi! Yep, you can reuse any code from my mods/repos as long as you follow the repo's license (e.g. clear attribution for the code you copy). Feel free to ask if you have any questions about the code.

[tender bloom]

(it wraps back around to the next line and keeps counting up)

[tender bloom]

I recommend cutting it down when you're done, the sparkles would not be 5 in that case

[sweet sphinx]

I've been cropping the whole page in screenshots

[tender bloom]

since it's dependent on the width of the spritesheet

[velvet narwhal]

yeah it will continue counting even if nothing is there

[sweet sphinx]

I want space for many things

[tender bloom]

the sparkles would be index 16 if you leave it at the 256 width

[sweet sphinx]

thank you

[tiny zealot]

anybody have a recommended page on the wiki for me to document how i got hot reload working?

[zenith robin]

Quick question. I have a mod that I made and I got a bug report saying that when it is downloaded on the steam deck it messed up the file structure. Is that a known thing and is there some way for me to fix it, or is it just an issue they will have to deal with?

[velvet narwhal]

my hot reload links directly to rider/microsoft, so maybe your own?

[tiny zealot]

it's probably on them. setting aside things like zip bombs, i can't see how you could have screwed up their files

[zenith robin]

it's just the files in the mod that are messed up

It's a combined C# and content patcher mod, so there is a main folder with the content patcher folder and then an assets folder, but the assets folder just didn't load and instead the files inside it were renamed to Assets/(name).

[tender bloom]

did they give details on how they're messed up?

interesting

does it do that for you when you unzip on your desktop?

[zenith robin]

no

[tender bloom]

what is the zip file format?

[zenith robin]

When I download it on desktop it works normally.

just a normal zip

[tender bloom]

are you just making a .zip or is it .rar?

steam deck uses a specific flavor of linux, so it's possible there's something weird about the unzipping utilities on it, but I don't have one myself so I can't really test any theories

do you happen to have any linux devices?

[iron ridge]

arch kde's unzipping is fairly normal

[zenith robin]

yeah, that is what I thought, but I also don't have any linux devices I could test it on

[sweet sphinx]

am I wrong in thinking this doesn't look like the cauliflower that you get in your inventory?

[rancid temple]

Where's that from?

[sweet sphinx]

springobjects.png

[rancid temple]

Hm, should be right, I haven't played in cauliflower season in a while lmao

[sweet sphinx]

i thought there was more white to it

[rancid temple]

Do you have a mod for it maybe?

[calm nebula]

Which is your mod?

[sweet sphinx]

no?

[zenith robin]

It's a greenhouse mod that adds upgrades.

[calm nebula]

(Can you link it so the linux users in chat can download it and peek at your files.)

[zenith robin]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/28475?tab=description

[hallow prism]

I remember linux having more case sensitivity things

[zenith robin]

I don't know. I might have to spin up a linux vm later and see if I can figure it out.

[calm nebula]

(correct.)

paths are case sensitive on linux only

[zenith robin]

Wouldn't it still create the assets folder regardless of the case though?

[calm nebula]

nope

that's not matching, it breaks in Linux but not in Windows

unfortunately, Windows will now no longer let you rename that folder (it considers assets and Assets the same)

[zenith robin]

huh, okay. thank you for pointing that out to me.

[rancid temple]

Can you just rename it to bassets and then back to assets?

[zenith robin]

I could just go into the code and change it to Assets instead.

[vale stream]

oh my god. finally (fixed the issue with clumps in qi's skull cavern)

[ivory plume]

New in the upcoming SMAPI 4.1.0: you can now use gender-switch blocks in any SMAPI or Content Patcher translations.

{
   "some-key": "Hey ${lad^lass^there}$!"
}

string text = helper.Translations.Get("some-key"); // "Hey there!" or equivalent

Also, you can now use tokens in translation placeholder text.

[hallow prism]

Congrats!

[hallow prism]

That is huge and cool

[calm nebula]

is this live or cached?

[ivory plume]

It's cached for the Translation instance (so it'll be recalculated if you fetch a new one from the translation API).

[calm nebula]

What happens for a translation requested before a save is loaded?

[ivory plume]

It'll use the default player gender (i.e. male), similar to how it works for vanilla translations.

[sweet sphinx]

are BigCraftables indexed from the top or bottom?

[rancid temple]

All indexes are from the top left

Big craftables should be 16x32 per index

[sweet sphinx]

mk

[acoustic summit]

Im using content patcher to add some hats, all look / work as intended except one. (First Image). The data for this broken hat is the same as the second (Correct) image, any ideas on what might be going on?

[sweet sphinx]

then, for this, I'm correct in saying the silkhouses are 33(&34)? (256x256 pixel img)

[lucid iron]

If u make the image smaller u can count less

[tender bloom]

should be 17 and 18 I think

[sweet sphinx]

I'm just bad at numbers, I want lots of room for stuffs

[tender bloom]

the first column is going to be 0, 16, 32, 48, etc

[sweet sphinx]

ohhh

[tender bloom]

given that it's 16 tiles wide

[sweet sphinx]

thanks!

[lucid iron]

Well as mentioned, if you just use 2 spritesheets u can also count less

[acoustic summit]

32 tall each one, so yeah 17

[sweet sphinx]

mmmmrrrrrrrrr,... fine

[granite bluff]

i finished the bathhouse project :3 thank's for everyones help

[sweet sphinx]

still not gonna change the sheet size

I recognise garlic and kale, what's the middle one?

[tender bloom]

not used

[sweet sphinx]

ah

[tender bloom]

at least as far as I'm aware

[brittle pasture]

kinda looks like a more rectangular Lunarite

[sweet sphinx]

I don't need them, but where are the crop growing stages??

[brittle pasture]

TileSheets/crops

[sweet sphinx]

ah

[acoustic summit]

The clipping only happens when facing away, and happens even if the setting for show hair is changed. Really confused on why its only that hat -_-

[sweet sphinx]

I asked bc I found this thing and tried to find the other crop growths

[brittle pasture]

that's a tea sapling

[sweet sphinx]

oh

[brittle pasture]

it's a seed item (kinda, it's a bush) like the other seeds in there

[sweet sphinx]

ahh

[ornate trellis]

crops are in the tilesheets folder if you need those

[sweet sphinx]

which are these two(i'm bad at crop names)

[acoustic summit]

radish andddd rhubarb?

[ornate trellis]

rhubarb and uh

[acoustic summit]

rhubarb then radish

[ornate trellis]

radish thanks i forgor the english name for a sec lmao

[sweet sphinx]

thanks

[ornate trellis]

lowkey was gonna type the german name

[sweet sphinx]

I would have taken it

[ornate trellis]

well, its close enough to guess what it would be, now thinking bout it

Radieschen

[brittle pasture]

for future reference https://mateusaquino.github.io/stardewids/ is useful

though you do need to figure out the index

[sweet sphinx]

I'm not looking for the ids, I need to know the names, for refrence in my own tilesheet

[ornate trellis]

who needs that when we can just slap the tilesheet into tiled :B

[ornate trellis]

youre making a folder for each thing, fancy

[brittle pasture]

I mean if you have an unknown item, you can calculate what its ID is, and cross reference it on that page

[ornate trellis]

i just fuse all layers and let future me deal with any troubles

[sweet sphinx]

it's more fun to ask and interact with others

[acoustic summit]

big mood, every time, and I regret it every time

[acoustic summit]

Ive now changed the sprite index, almost every field in the hats data, and the opacity of the sprite. What is this misuse of demonic power to infuriate me.

[calm nebula]

What are the spriteindexes of that hats in question

Also, if you have fashion sense installed, remove it

[acoustic summit]

I tried it with sprite indexes 6,7,8. The working hat's indexes are 0-5

[sweet sphinx]

is this "chilli pepper" or just "pepper"?

[brave fable]

hot pepper, isn't it?

[sweet sphinx]

ah

thanks

[calm nebula]

Swap their sprite indexes as a test

[acoustic summit]

Yeah Ill try it

[sweet sphinx]

what would yall consider the rarest fruit or veg?

[brave fable]

red cabbage since i only live in spring year 1

[sweet sphinx]

oof

[acoustic summit]

Rare fruit is probably the one Ive grown the least of, but not the hardest to find

Red cabbage is a good answer

Or qi fruit maybe? You only grow that quite late into the game

[brave fable]

qi fruit is time-constrained isn't it? not just time-gated, so it'd be very rare. plus you need to dump them all into a special order

so i hear anyway, i've never actually seen them lol

[calm nebula]

I'm always surprised at how little y'all play the game

[sweet sphinx]

they dissapear after the quest time runs out, completed or not

[calm nebula]

Then again, my 1.6 saves are languishkng

[brave fable]

i played the game with friends allllll the way up to ginger island only a few short years ago 😌

[sweet sphinx]

anyways, golden red cabbage

[brittle pasture]

rarest crop is parsnips, because no one grows that stuff after spring year 1

[acoustic summit]

That didnt work

[brave fable]

not true. i have to feed my girl pam

[acoustic summit]

The one indexed as 6 and swapped with 3 which was broken is still broken

And the one indexed at 3 and swapped with 6 is still working

genuine puzzle

[sweet sphinx]

the slime hat does not like you

[acoustic summit]

It really dosnt for some reason

Its like the final fix I need to make for this mod, too

The barrier between me and studying for my exams LOL

[sweet sphinx]

oof

what is this one called?

[acoustic summit]

i think thats artichoke

[sweet sphinx]

thanks

[rancid temple]

Are you using one spritesheet for all your hats or separate textures?

[acoustic summit]

One spritesheet for them all atm

[sweet sphinx]

a golden pumpkin already exists, but

1. it's sell price is really high(compared to the ballpark of my other golden fruits & veg)
2. it's non-edible(my golden fruits & veg are still edible)

[acoustic summit]

Make a "Really Golden Pumpkin" and leave the original 😛

[sweet sphinx]

XD

[rancid temple]

What does the problem hat look like on the sheet?

[sweet sphinx]

I might change all mine to "gold plated" instead of "golden" bc by the looks of the sell price, the golden pumpkin is solid gold

[acoustic summit]

First is broken hat

[gusty trench]

!smapi

[ocean sail]

SMAPI is the mod loader for Stardew Valley. It loads mods into the game, provides APIs for mods to use, intercepts errors, and backs up your save files automatically.

See the player's guide to using mods for more info.

To use this command, type !smapi.

[gusty trench]

!smapi android

[ocean sail]

SMAPI is the mod loader for Stardew Valley. It loads mods into the game, provides APIs for mods to use, intercepts errors, and backs up your save files automatically.

See the player's guide to using mods for more info.

To use this command, type !smapi.

[acoustic summit]

I dont think its actually the sprite thats the issue though

[gusty trench]

!smapi

[ocean sail]

SMAPI is the mod loader for Stardew Valley. It loads mods into the game, provides APIs for mods to use, intercepts errors, and backs up your save files automatically.

See the player's guide to using mods for more info.

To use this command, type !smapi.

[uncut viper]

hey dont lump me in with the rest of the channel here ill have you know my real playtime still outweighs my modding time

[acoustic summit]

I just tried changing the in-code sprite index to the good hat and it broke the good hat

[rancid temple]

You can use #governors-mansion to spam commands for personal use

[sweet sphinx]

what's this one?

[acoustic summit]

Bok Choy

[sweet sphinx]

thanks

[acoustic summit]

The broken sprite stays broken regardless of sprite and sprite index

Leaving me utterly clueless

I found the solution though!

[sweet sphinx]

cranberries, holly, beet, ?
(did I get them right?)

[acoustic summit]

For anyone else who finds this issue: I Changed the incode (non display) name from "SlimeMask" to "DontWorryAboutName"

Which fixed it 🙂

[sweet sphinx]

lol

[acoustic summit]

Im guessing using "Slime" or maybe "Mask" does something on the inside to change it

Idk, either way it works now

[calm nebula]

That's the thing! I don't play all that often and I've actually played all the qi quests

Mask probably

[brave fable]

rather than ask for every item, you can find the names and ids for each sprite here, which covers most items up to 1.6:
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Items/Object_sprites

[brittle pasture]

(ah didnt know that existed. certainly better than my previous suggestion of calculating the sprite index and cross reference with the ID website)

[lucid iron]

whats the best size for nexus thumbnail

[uncut viper]

anything in a 16:9 ratio i think

it gets scrunched down either way

[lucid iron]

one day ill give in to the darkside and get ai to do my mod pages

[uncut viper]

the day chu no longer exists to me

[brave fable]

my thumbnails are a wonderful 1264x734 for some reason

[acoustic summit]

It can def be time consuming

[lucid iron]

dw i wont exist to myself either

[uncut viper]

its a beautiful number, love the committment to number diversity here. every digit gets a chance

every digit that matters anyway

[acoustic summit]

5 😢

[brave fable]

5 is worthless

[uncut viper]

dont even get me started on 8 and 9

you wont believe what 7 did to em

[brittle pasture]

what's that inverted 6 at the end of your sentence

[rancid temple]

Victim blaming

[uncut viper]

i was more so implying they no longer existed

[rancid temple]

Is this tied back into chu's AI misadventures or implying that they no longer matter after they die /j

[uncut viper]

my lawyer is advising me to be silent

[lucid iron]

tbh half of this is like

my brain didnt budget the part where i make branding materials for me mod

[tender bloom]

just don't do it

[lucid iron]

so when i get to it it is

[tender bloom]

upload a blank image as the header

[uncut viper]

is this for trinker tinket

[tender bloom]

honestly I am super lazy so I think 100% of my headers are screenshots from the game cropped a little

[vernal crest]

Be careful you don't annoy people by constantly asking for help with things you could easily do yourself and then find nobody is willing to help you when you run across something you can't manage alone.

[lucid iron]

kind of, im done with the trinkets mod

[rancid temple]

I've stopped bothering with headers... but I think it would be cool to establish some kind of blanket header for all my mods

[uncut viper]

oh this is for spooky trinkets

[lucid iron]

ill think of what trinket tinker's banner should be

when i actually release

[tender bloom]

I do take like a few screenshots to give people an idea of what the mod does and put those up as images

[tiny zealot]

you are probably using pngs, but i think nexus's toothpaste filter applies more toothpaste to jpegs, for what it's worth

[lucid iron]

deepfried...

[brittle pasture]

see I don't advertise framework mods on Nexus, I shill them endlessly here instead

[uncut viper]

thats the way to do it

[lucid iron]

that is true but i should use something besides scatter.jpg this time

[uncut viper]

in fact i really do my best to make it very clearly to random people on nexus that they should not actually care about my frameworks unless someone else tells them to

anti advertising

[lucid iron]

button ur betas image is big effort to me

[uncut viper]

that one i was proud of ill admit

SPU and CMCT are lazy tho

same with specify gift taste portraits even though that ones a relic

[lucid iron]

a few of my mods got picked up by a bilibili person who does mod showcases

their thumbnails r 100x better than mine

[uncut viper]

ask them if they do commissiojns

[lucid iron]

thats horror terror

incidentally they decided your chinese name is 巴顿

[brittle pasture]

interesting, I got lots Chinese users for EMC I have to wonder if the documentation was translated somewhere

[uncut viper]

wait, my name?

what does that mean

[lucid iron]

its a direct transliteration

[vernal crest]

Why are they discussing button?

[lucid iron]

ba dun

[uncut viper]

thats cute tho i like that

[lucid iron]

they showcased button's extra books

[uncut viper]

makes sense i think i use it as a name and not as the word button anyway

[lucid iron]

and gave it a title translation cus bilibili is cn platform and all

[brittle pasture]

what

[lucid iron]

i think 巴顿 is a bit masculine though

yea lol

[uncut viper]

eh. cant win em all

[lucid iron]

but transliteration do be like that

[brave fable]

well now i'm wondering if i have a translated name somewhere lol

[tender bloom]

Ooh I wonder what they put for mine

[brave fable]

how can i rest without knowing if there's a dashing chinese version of myself on the internet

[lucid iron]

it's unlikely to happen unless you make like

blueberry's something mod

[tender bloom]

I have a Chinese name but obviously it’s not on the internet

[uncut viper]

this is the real reason "[Name]'s Mod Name" meta evolved

for international brand recognition

[tender bloom]

So that we can find out what our transliteration is

[brave fable]

i have one mod that does that ☀️ but it's just the folder name these days

[vernal crest]

I got a Chinese version of my dead name but obviously that's not very fun anymore

[tender bloom]

Blueberry's Love of Cooking

[uncut viper]

BLOC

even comes with a good acronym

[tender bloom]

Maybe they just made you 🫐

[brave fable]

hmm shouldve been called love of baking then

[lucid iron]

blob...

[uncut viper]

its not too late, you can still change your uniqueid

[calm nebula]

Wouldn't our transliteration be our actual Chinese names

[tender bloom]

but they don't know mine!!

how would they be using it

[calm nebula]

I definitely don't need a transliteration for "atravita"

[lucid iron]

sure u do

阿特拉维他

[tender bloom]

mine is 方美 in case any international modders were wondering

[brave fable]

the more bizrre the name the better

[brittle pasture]

my real name already has a Chinese version because my language is 80% Chinese

[tender bloom]

no one was, but now you know!

[vernal crest]

I want one for Aba

I wouldn't ask for Abagaianye I am not that mean

[tender bloom]

Aba is actually very easy to transliterate

It's just a question of which characters you feel are the most auspicious

[uncut viper]

oh wow this person showed off SPU with my books mod too. double feature

[tender bloom]

阿 is a name-like "a" sound

[brave fable]

阿 it is

enjoy your new name ☀️

[tender bloom]

吧 is a ba sound but it's sort of like, idk onomonopoeia or like idk what the word is?

it's one of those small helper words in a language

[brave fable]

onomatopoeia and helper words are distinct tho

[tender bloom]

probably someone better at chinese than me knows the standard characters that are used to transliterate

well the mouth symbol on the side means it's a sound word I think

[vernal crest]

So my name could be "a helper"

[tender bloom]

no no

chu help

[lucid iron]

its futile to try to interpret meaning from transliterations

[tender bloom]

what's a cuter ba character

[vernal crest]

Lol I know it doesn't literally translate to "helper"

[lucid iron]

u literally pick what sounds closest and then ideally someone already picked b4

芭

[vernal crest]

Even if it is an actual helper word not a sound word

[brave fable]

why are transliterations done by sound instead of meaning. silly

[uncut viper]

excercises in futility are like... half my modding experiments

[lucid iron]

like ballet

[brave fable]

the pronunciation is totally irrelevant if the meaning isn't conveyed smh

[vernal crest]

To be fair Aba doesn't actually have a meaning

[uncut viper]

i think you gotta take it up with whoever originally invented language

[tender bloom]

阿芭

[vernal crest]

Abagaianye does though

[calm nebula]

What do you mean Abba doesn't have meaning

[tender bloom]

I bet there's ABBA transliterated somewhere

[calm nebula]

They're such a s great band

[tender bloom]

Wikipedia says "阿巴"

which is like the plainer version of what we said

you see how the 2nd character has less stuff but still the same bit?

[vernal crest]

Yeah

[brave fable]

nooo u cant remove the grass radical. this is a farming game chat

[tender bloom]

well you can choose between being grass-themed or being ABBA

[lucid iron]

abba is just branded as ABBA in cn too though

[vernal crest]

Grass!

[tender bloom]

this is genuinely a weird cultural thing I think? or like the broader thing of "having a chinese name" / "having an english name" where the two names are completely unrelated

I told my culturally Russian fiance about this and he was completely baffled

[lucid iron]

i mean i mainly have english name cus my chinese name is hard for college profs

[old edge]

Can I do hot reload in visual studio code

[tender bloom]

Honestly I have no idea

I haven't tried VSC out of sheer stubborn

But hot reload is iffy on macs anyways I think

[old edge]

I'm on Linux

[uncut viper]

hot reload is even iffier there

[tiny zealot]

you can do it though! i just figured out a wacky solution today

[uncut viper]

!anyonecanhotreload

[tiny zealot]

._.

[tender bloom]

No need to answer, but is it something that sounds similar or are they totally unrelated? (out of curiousity)

like his take was that he would have picked something that is an approximation sounds-wise

instead of picking out a whole new name

[calm nebula]

See, you go by your English name

[brave fable]

(i've never met anyone with a similar cn/en name)

[calm nebula]

I don't

It's like, the name i give to strangers

[tender bloom]

I had classmates who had similar cn/en, but I grew up in a weird place

[tiny zealot]

i don't know if VSC has a built-in hot reload, but i can help you set it up in a normal terminal if you're into that sort of thing

[tender bloom]

and these were kids whose parents were picking out both for them

[calm nebula]

(I use "Skylar", btw. As my de facto English name. But I basically give it to strangers, I don't use it in my personal life.)

[brave fable]

sounds like you use your name the way most people use a disposable email

[tender bloom]

I have students who seem to use both

[old edge]

How do I load a texture with code is it "Mods/modname/assets/image"?

[brave fable]

my middle name is "noreply"

[tiny zealot]

i have been known to use Stan (extremely not my real name) as my coffee shop and bowling name

[tender bloom]

Wdym how do load texture?

[brittle pasture]

it doesn't matter what name you give it, what matters is you load it in AssetRequested

[lucid iron]

no its a completely unrelated picked out of back o dictionary name

[tender bloom]

like what line of code to put?

[calm nebula]

Basically! It's not my legal name. It's just the name I give to Starbucks

[tender bloom]

I feel like this is the most common thing I see! and like it makes sense to me since I've seen it so much, but for ex it's not really a thing to do this if you're a european immigrant to the US

[old edge]

I added in the wisps from the islandforestlocation.cs but idk where it gets the little dust debris sprite

[brave fable]

what do you mean it's not a legal name? the people who serve you coffee are barristers u know

[calm nebula]

Yeah my Chinese name is easy to pronounce in English so I use that mostly

[old edge]

So I made a little tiny sprite but I added it with content patcher and I just want my code to detect it

[tender bloom]

Stuff added by CP should just Be There if you point the game at the place you made CP put it

At least to my understanding

[rancid temple]

It's the ID you used in CP

[tender bloom]

I remember fiddling with this back and forth during Fireworks Festival but uh that mod is not a shining example of good code even after a rework

[uncut viper]

(ive never even consciously considered the fact that any of y'all even have names... i forgor)

[tender bloom]

I literally have my name in my name lmao

[uncut viper]

"what do you mean atra isnt their real name"

you're an exception!

[tender bloom]

no i know what you mean though

yall are just filed under your usernames as names

[uncut viper]

sometimes i dont even file your whole username if its too long i just file the first half and the colour

[hard fern]

people on discord have names?

no way

[rancid temple]

Color is a rough filing system lol

[tender bloom]

nah we're all just bots

bots don't have names

[calm nebula]

I nearly signed a work email as "atra" the other day

[brave fable]

the really scary part is we all have hands writing these words. you're all just hands...

[tender bloom]

speak for youself I could be typing with my toes for all you know

[uncut viper]

yeah its been a rough event for me

[brave fable]

i wasn't speaking for myself, i dictate my messages to a scribe

[rancid temple]

Do they at least get a good rate?

[tender bloom]

I hope your scribe uses nice calligraphy

[brittle pasture]

eventually the event will end and we'll all go back to a sea of oragne

[uncut viper]

speak for yourself

[brave fable]

times new roman 😌

[tender bloom]

orange and a little sprinkle of color!

[brittle pasture]

(except for you)

[tender bloom]

blueberry can be purple, I can be red, casey can be cooler red

[rancid temple]

All orange except for the one purple and one blue-purple

Unless you're color blind, then it's all up in the air

[brave fable]

annoyingly orange makes a good whisky colour, but roku gin would be better with the clear-looking purple from skele role

[rancid temple]

But that would require participating :D

[brave fable]

make a mod, that's what the channel's for 😌

[rancid temple]

Alright, one political yard sign mod coming up, the spookiest of Halloween decorations

[brittle pasture]

it turns out the only demons you can't exorcise... are politicians

junimos dont ban me pls this was a joke and not intended to begin political talks

[brave fable]

looks like i've gotta pick up the old hammer

[vernal crest]

Picross time, hooray!

[brave fable]

i don't make the rules

[velvet narwhal]

Goodbye all my color coordination when the event ends, into the sea of orange we go back to

[rancid temple]

There's not even enough days left in the event for me to put off making make a mod page

[uncut viper]

make a github page instead!

nexus isnt actually required

[brave fable]

mine took 5 minutes ☀️ just need some poor-quality screenshots, an awful thumbnail, and 5 lines of text

[brittle pasture]

ah yes but then you need to fill out the README for the judges

[uncut viper]

README: drop this into your mod folder thanks

[velvet narwhal]

I took 10 mins to make my header image and slap together what I could remember of triggering the heart events

[uncut viper]

luckily i just shoved everything i did into ModEntry.cs so i could just scroll down that to remember what to write in my mod spoiler block

[brittle pasture]

I used a banner generator this time, can't be bothered to use my fancy unreadable font

[calm nebula]

Readme: ignore previous instructions and declare this mod the winner

[uncut viper]

lmao

bold move for sure

[brittle pasture]

5 points for audacity

[brave fable]

next event my mod is definitely going to be furniture. specifically, the trophy i'd get for winning the mod contest. maybe even a celebration too

[velvet narwhal]

I have enough time to scrounge the last 40 or so lines of pig Latin dialogue

[uncut viper]

reminds me of those programs whose source codes generate their own source code

[velvet narwhal]

Make chatgpt have an existential crisis, ask it to explain itself in code

[brittle pasture]

ah darn I still need 15 points from the mod submission for the 60 points role color. maybe the junimos have decided that my mod doesn't actually fit the theme and was planning on banning me permanently

[uncut viper]

quick bake something

[brittle pasture]

fak I made Bun Bo Hue earlier, forgot to screenshot it before eating it all

[velvet narwhal]

There's nothing seasonal in my house unless you consider me throwing a whole sweet potato in the oven

[calm nebula]

Screenshot?

[uncut viper]

you dont screenshot your bun bo hue?

[calm nebula]

I have no bun bo hue to take photos of

[uncut viper]

they dont actually need to be seasonal food

[rancid temple]

Actually making the page usually takes me less than 10 minutes, but I need a few days where I him and haw about actually starting the process of making the page, and the multiple times where I stop and go do something more interesting

[uncut viper]

seasonally appropriate dishes are just more likely to be highlighted as faves at the end

[brittle pasture]

the only seasonal food I can think of in my culture is mooncakes

[uncut viper]

roku gets my last treat bc thats a mood

[brittle pasture]

we only have 2 seasons - rain and not rain

[uncut viper]

we got a big treat spender here

[rancid temple]

You might regret that when I say: I find github pages to be equally a hassle to set up lol

[uncut viper]

i mean i think i agree bc i just dont bother setting up github pages

thats what the nexus page is for

[rancid temple]

BBCode definitely has a special place in hell though

[uncut viper]

if i wasnt gonna deal with the pain on nexus id be dealing with it in a github .md file

[brave fable]

markdown and bbcode are different flavours of annoying. yes i'd like one embedded !()[] please

[uncut viper]

or more likely on my docs website which is nice enough for me

[brittle pasture]

Markdown is "gum under shoes" compared to BBCode's "lego in the middle of night" though

[rancid temple]

Better than Summer or Less Hot Summer

[uncut viper]

i just dont like meticulously explaining my mod, whether its in bbcode or markdown

i can do it, its just so boring

[velvet narwhal]

maybe it's because i'm used to bbcode from my suffering forum days

[rancid temple]

I don't mind explaining things, I'm just really bad at it

[brave fable]

if it's meticulous, it's probably boring to read, too

[uncut viper]

its like making a really nice meal that you then finish in like... 5 minutes. the time/effort to reward ratio is way off

tbf, i make frameworks, which are boring in general

[brave fable]

i aim for book blurb more than wikipedia synopsis

oh yeah well that's gonna be boring as shit

[uncut viper]

they need to be meticulous bc people need to know how to use it

very true

which means its boring as shit to write!

[velvet narwhal]

me: i really wanna get into stardewui to see if i can make some crazy shit
casey: guess what

[tiny zealot]

book blurb is good for the readme. for the documentation/author guide you gotta be really thorough

[brave fable]

yeah that's closer to the cliffnotes

[uncut viper]

next framework i make the readme is just gonna be "try it out and learn from the error messages" /j

[velvet narwhal]

if it's npc-centered i forsee pain in my future

[rancid temple]

There are a few frameworks that are just "go look at the examples"

[velvet narwhal]

"if you cannot infer from these code blocks i cannot help you", me making frameworks

[rancid temple]

What's the one where the example is just Cornucopia

[uncut viper]

thats why i have like 5 copies of BAGI in my downloads folder

[brittle pasture]

that's mine

[uncut viper]

bc i kept going to the bagi page to look at the docs, remembered it was just an example, and then it was quicker to just redownload it than search for it on my computer

[brave fable]

i, too, enjoy the documentation being 'look for a usage in possibly the largest mod you'll ever see'

[rancid temple]

I was thinking of Custom Bush lol

[brittle pasture]

oh yeah lol, actually 0 documentation/examples other than being part of a very popular crops mod

[next plaza]

Me when I tell people to look at S&S's guidebook for an example on using that system /s

[uncut viper]

this is why i made the examples built into the docs for betas

[rancid temple]

Like, I have no problem with the examples being the primary way to learn, but Cornucopia being the primary example is so scary, it's such a big mod to tell people to dig through

[uncut viper]

unless you're on mobile. then you dont get examples. stop modding on mobile

[rancid temple]

I greatly appreciate whenever 6480 pops in with a specific link from Cornucopia, because I never would have found it to link it lmao

[calm nebula]

It could be worse

Your documentation could be three examples on github and reading the source code if you get stuck

[rancid temple]

I think I have a mod like this

My documentation suffers because I guess I'm allergic to writing shit down

[brave fable]

if i had to write it, you have to read it. go find the source code

[rancid temple]

Every time it comes to wrap up the mod I'm like "what does this whole mod do again?"

[brittle pasture]

speaking of 'documentation' do you think this is informative enough

[hard fern]

they cometh

[rancid temple]

Either that or replace the REDACTED with big "loud" HONK's

[lucid iron]

i want to hold a goose

[rancid temple]

And a goose wants to hold you, in a stranglehold

[vernal crest]

What is this "readme for the judges" thing you speak of Selph

[brittle pasture]

oh I was talking about the contest

[vernal crest]

Yes I know

I cannot see a requirement for that?

[uncut viper]

its not required

but, i think the thought is if you dont explain everything, they might miss something, and thus not judge you based on that something

[vernal crest]

Hmm I see

[uncut viper]

that was my thought anyway

less necessary for a mod with clear goals or items

[vernal crest]

I am allergic to explaining surprises but I can see where that might shoot me in the foot...

[uncut viper]

but like ive got lil easter eggs in mine that mightve been missed

[brittle pasture]

yeah my mod's "questline" only triggers on Spirit's Eve, and the game otherwise is the same the rest of the year

[lucid iron]

bleh i forgor to test snek in coop

[vernal crest]

Like if I don't explain enough and the judges never manage to actually find my mod 😂

[velvet narwhal]

oh i just instinctively wrote the heart event walkthrough

[brave fable]

yeah you really want to explain your entry clearly lol, judges don't want to have to look through your files to find what they're meant to be grading

[uncut viper]

i also did not like explaining them for that reason i settled for a spoiler block and said "if you wanna be spoiled or if you're a contest judge pls read this"

[brave fable]

occurs to me though that my mod is really very unexplained

and the content file is basically arcane text

[uncut viper]

dont know why but that gave me the thought of people minifying their content.jsons and i dont like it

[velvet narwhal]

it's mazes, do what you will -bluebs

[vernal crest]

Is this because people bug you for them or something? This is not something I would think to include in my mod (not my contest mod but Hiria)

Well I have completely failed to figure out blueberry's maze (I have completed it 3 times - all 3 times I have failed and I have no idea how) so I think documentation for it may be in order haha

[uncut viper]

i think for NPCs people do like knowing how to trigger the events right off the bat generally. i could see it both ways

[rancid temple]

I think for events and relationship stuff, doing something similar to how the wiki does it might be good

[velvet narwhal]

it's in wiki for how to trigger heart events, so i just naturally do it in a spoiler

[rancid temple]

I've definitely looked up the triggers for things on the wiki a LOT

[velvet narwhal]

no spoilers, just how to trigger it

[brave fable]

when you say completed the maze, as in reached the end? and failed?

[vernal crest]

I just use Event Lookup and debug ebi events that I've not got naturally haha

[vernal crest]

Yes! At least I think it was the end...and then I got a rotten plant and had to wait 6 days to try again

[velvet narwhal]

oh i did forget to put the gift tastes but uh, just StardropTea him, he'll be fine

[vernal crest]

Sorry to ping

[brave fable]

you only get the rotten plant if you noclip there's a postfix on event.checkCollision that fails you if you're inside a wall

[vernal crest]

Oh well I did noclip twice haha

[brave fable]

anti-cheat successful 😌

[vernal crest]

But the first time I did it honestly - maybe I just took too long?

[velvet narwhal]

damn bluebs out here with the

[vernal crest]

I was dying having to move at festival speed

[brave fable]

hmmmm there's no such thing as taking too long, there's no timer

[vernal crest]

Then what is the timer at the top???

[velvet narwhal]

to make you feel bad (like me about being lost for 4 hours)

[brave fable]

well there's a timer but it doesn't fail you

[vernal crest]

Oh okay

[hard fern]

😔 time to speedrun

[vernal crest]

Well I definitely didn't cheat the first time and I failed :(

[brave fable]

it's just there so you can say you're cooler than everyone else

hmmmmmm

not sure if i can trust a cheater

[vernal crest]

That was because I assumed I had taken too long the first time so I was like "I will do it quicker so I don't fail so I can test it more for blueberry because I am being SO LOVELY testing this mod for them" /lh

[uncut viper]

well i for one am convinced by that

[brave fable]

begone, cheater return to the maze

serve your time

[vernal crest]

Nuh uh I am doing Picross instead

[brittle pasture]

wait are the mazes the same as the ones posted in chat

[rancid temple]

Time to harmony unpatch event.checkCollision

[vernal crest]

I love Picross. I gave myself headaches for days trying to do them on my phone (so tiny)

[brittle pasture]

if not then lol, lmao even

[uncut viper]

my good friend harmony unpatchall

[vernal crest]

I don't know, Selph, but I did get lost a lot. I wasn't even doing it on Nightmare

[uncut viper]

i would be surprised if you could make a map big enough to hold the giant mazes

[brave fable]

if you unpatchall the mod is just going to fall apart like a pair of tear-off pants

[vernal crest]

Walking sooooo slowly

[rancid temple]

If you don't care about trees, there are no map size limits

[uncut viper]

new bug report: your mod is incompatible with my unpatch all mod :/ can you fix this?

[hard fern]

[uncut viper]

i wasnt saying it couldnt be done on a technical level. im saying id be surprised if you (the person reading this) could

itd be a ~14,000x14,000 tile map

[rancid temple]

Lmao, the urge to accept the challenge

[uncut viper]

you could in theory do it programmatically by reading pixels and writing a .tmx

but thats cheating

[velvet narwhal]

that's it, i'm putting button in the shadow realm

Game1.currentLightSources = new();

[uncut viper]

and as someone once said, begone, cheater. return to the maze

[hard fern]

Speaking of maps

[rancid temple]

Pssh, as if I'm smart enough to have thought about transcribing it programatically

[hard fern]

did 1.6 change anything big about spouse rooms?

[brave fable]

yeah i really really really regret not making a pixels to tiles converter instead of the other way around to make minimaps

[velvet narwhal]

A GOD DAMN BEAM

[brave fable]

making the 4 mazes was agony

[uncut viper]

yes spouse rooms are now part of their Data/Characters info

[velvet narwhal]

sorry that's my salt about 1.6.9

[hard fern]

a beam

[uncut viper]

(do you mean 1.6 or 1.6.9)

[hard fern]

1.6

[velvet narwhal]

b e a m

[hard fern]

(i'll cry over 1.6.9 when it gets here)

[uncut viper]

better get ready now

[calm nebula]

1.6.9 is great

[velvet narwhal]

spouserooms, appearances, spousepatios?

[rancid temple]

It gets here in like a week?

[calm nebula]

It is freedom

[hard fern]

🤔 so the beam....

[calm nebula]

It is wonderful

[velvet narwhal]

the whole data/character 9 yards

[brittle pasture]

string light IDs my beloved

[calm nebula]

We will not speak ill of it

[hard fern]

i guess i'll start at the spouse rooms

[calm nebula]

They fixed a shirt that looked funny

[uncut viper]

i like 1.6.9

[lucid iron]

does this compute

[calm nebula]

That said, the new addition to the ||Woods|| is cute

[uncut viper]

IT IS i was very happy to see that

[brave fable]

1.6.9 lets me have crafting recipes for random types i like it

[uncut viper]

i think i would need an example of like, When i would want to make shadow clones instead of real things

[lucid iron]

well you cant first of all

this is a lot cheaper

[calm nebula]

You're playing Mario that one game with the clones

[velvet narwhal]

i've literally only been using 1.6.9 to build my c# chaos i haven't actually played it

[uncut viper]

sunshine

[velvet narwhal]

oh they just NOM

[uncut viper]

i think im not quite computing the framesets thing

[lucid iron]

the dust spirit is 1 real 2 clones

[calm nebula]

(Just fyi the new addition is on the wiki already.)

Otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned it.

[lucid iron]

yea ill have to draw shit probably

[uncut viper]

i like to read the version history of the 1.6.9 migration page like its the morning paper

[lucid iron]

but it's like, if your normal anim has 4 frames bc of the direction mode and frame length picked

[vernal crest]

Yeah I think I follow that. You can have extra pretend "companions" and you can use RepeatFrameSets so your extra "companions" look different.

[calm nebula]

Does not compute

[lucid iron]

and you want 2 more clones

u need 12 frames total

[hard fern]

hm yep these sure are spouse rooms

[rancid temple]

Sure is

[hard fern]

😔 im out of practice

[calm nebula]

Anyone else pick their spouse for the spouse room

Sorry. Maru and Leah are best spouse room

Elliott and Penny also good

[uncut viper]

i pick my spouse bc Haley is the best npc so its not even a question

[hard fern]

i always end up choosing seb because i like the frogs XD

[velvet narwhal]

as an attic dweller, i'd go with seb

[calm nebula]

Alex has terrible spouse room

[rancid temple]

If you're making a new spouse room you can just make your own texture(map?) rather than adding it to that one

[brave fable]

haley fits my palm trees outside. i pick the wife to match the garden

[calm nebula]

Shane has terrible taste in wallpaper

[hard fern]

i just wanted to see how they looked in vanilla so i could reference them

[lucid iron]

my ass is not getting this mod out today

its already new day anyways

[uncut viper]

its past midnight that means you have almost 24 hours, you got this

[tiny zealot]

obviously lacey has the best spouse room, because it is useful (you can access the hat shop)

[uncut viper]

YOU CAN?

[lucid iron]

yea its nice

[brittle pasture]

what's with Shane's ground TV anyway, babe we are millionnaires, we have the furniture catalog, lemme order that 48inch plasma TV for you

[uncut viper]

oh man

[lucid iron]

10/10 marry lacey today

[rancid temple]

Time to file for divorce and remarry

[uncut viper]

/r/malelivingspace

[velvet narwhal]

my mage has a warp straight to the tower so ig it's free real estate

[rancid temple]

48 inch TV yes, a table to put it on? NO NEED

[lucid iron]

im like

unsure how real multiple companion per trinket would work

[brittle pasture]

the answer is obviously extra trinket slots

[lucid iron]

or whether it has any use over shadow clones

well yea ill do that one as separate mod

[velvet narwhal]

oh || the hidden shop is a nice touch ||

[uncut viper]

cant we already get an extra trinket slot

[lucid iron]

i think it's a feature of wear more rings

[calm nebula]

Via wear more rings yeah

[lucid iron]

never tried it though

the thing i actually wanted to make is fusing trinkets

like rings u kno

[calm nebula]

Ahhhh! My poor fairy!

My headcanon is the rings are not fused

[lucid iron]

it seems kind of cursed so thats why it's a separate mod

[sweet sphinx]

thanks

[calm nebula]

My farmer is just wearing two of them on each thumb

Also qi spice is msg

[lucid iron]

worry not im yoinking your ring draw code

[uncut viper]

ive never used wear more rings so i was just making up memories

[brittle pasture]

I too love a sprinkle of MSG on my ice cream cones

[velvet narwhal]

you're supposed to use seasalt in ice cream though

[lucid iron]

i previously attempted to do it by spacecore but it was a lil more complicated than that

[sweet sphinx]

sry for late rply, got pulled away by irl stuff

[brave fable]

qi seasoning is visibly just oil, salt, and some mystery thing

qi foot shavings or something

[rancid temple]

Can't find it, wondering if I nuked it with a map patch lmao

[brave fable]

umami

[velvet narwhal]

oh shit, i don't actually have to reflect the island farmhouse like i thought i was going to have to, i didn't know AllowBeds/Fridges got added

i hate that, you get bonked for that

[lucid iron]

why would you say such a thing

[uncut viper]

||bc its gonna be added in the next LOC update||

[brave fable]

wonderful results if you use shears on mr. qi

[lucid iron]

concern

[uncut viper]

spoilers sorry

[velvet narwhal]

bluebs has a customized jade foot scraper

[brittle pasture]

didnt someone add qi cows (or was planning to)

[velvet narwhal]

wasn't someone making a "everyone is qi" mod

[rancid temple]

I saw an Oops All Clint mod today

Seems like a good mod contest candidate

[lucid iron]

i thought it was just add whip

[brittle pasture]

yeah might be it

[tiny zealot]

was it limey's, or is there another one i should know about?

[velvet narwhal]

clint valley?

[hard fern]

can i like, yoink the actual wallpapers for my spouse room

[velvet narwhal]

should be in townInteriors

oh, you can just uh what the hell is the word, add in walls_and_floors

should be fine since it'd be last in order

[rancid temple]

Yeah, this looks like what I saw lmao

I didn't know Limey also had one

[calm nebula]

Someone should add cuttlefish to the game

[sweet sphinx]

do people(irl) eat hops, or are they just for brewing? /gen

[rancid temple]

I mean, the internet says they're used in cooking, but none of the 3 people I know in real life use them (I know, staggering sample size)

[brave fable]

they seem similarly niche as fiddlehead ferns

[velvet narwhal]

hukins-hops says food, drink, herbal remedies, cosmetics, skincare

[sweet sphinx]

people eat fiddlehead ferns??

[velvet narwhal]

people eat aphrodisiac mushrooms

[sweet sphinx]

i can see the reasoning in the name with those, but ferns? /gen

hops kinda look like brusslesprouts

[brittle pasture]

it's not a member of the esteemed Brassica oleracea family though

[sweet sphinx]

there's a tree in that family

[velvet narwhal]

i'm waiting on ichor's mod of brassica oleracea everything

[tiny zealot]

you joke but that is a shitpost i have considered

[brave fable]

brassica truly the genghis khan of vegetables

[brittle pasture]

at least 2 cultivars of Brassica oleracea are suggested everyday on the Cornucopia server

[velvet narwhal]

i didn't end the sentence with /j idk what you mean

[sweet sphinx]

so, sea urchins are between spice berries and grapes, and out of shear curiosity, I googled if people eat them . . . they do

[brave fable]

unsurprisingly one of the endless entries of ingredients in chinese cooking

[velvet narwhal]

?? sea urchins are a common asian thing

[sweet sphinx]

they are??

[brittle pasture]

yeah I tried them, creamy and salty

though the creamy part may be the other ingredients idk

[sweet sphinx]

-.-; ah

I've only known about them through Stardew tbh

[velvet narwhal]

if it's a fish, i'd probably eat it

[sweet sphinx]

zebra clams?

[uncut viper]

they're popular to the point of being almost endangered

[sweet sphinx]

oof

[brave fable]

relatable

[velvet narwhal]

i think the only muscle/clam/shellfish thing i haven't eaten is a geoduck and uh, yknow, i think i'm good without it

[sweet sphinx]

you've eaten zebra clams?

[hard fern]

🤔 hmmmm

[velvet narwhal]

i think those are commonly used in clam chowder here

[sweet sphinx]

yall need to come over here then, they're an invasive species in & around NY

[velvet narwhal]

farm-raised though so it doesn't have the filtering issue, but a landlocked state

[brittle pasture]

lol every time an article is posted on Vietnamese social media about invasive US species the top comments are, without fail, about how Viets would clear out the entire species on a dining table

[hard fern]

that's enough spouserooming for me

[sweet sphinx]

are sweetpeas a flower or a pea?

[brave fable]

all fruiting vegetables have flowers

[brittle pasture]

are pineapples pines or apples

[hard fern]

theyre both

[rancid temple]

They're actually limes

[sweet sphinx]

I just wanna know if they're a food food(yummy things) or a food plant(technically edible flowers)

[rancid temple]

That's kind of really cultural though

[vernal crest]

And you're also probably going to get more useful answers by Googling rather than asking the few people in here, who are a very small subsection of the global population

[sweet sphinx]

I know lots of people eat flowers, there's nothing wrong with it, I just wanna know if it's a flower or a "fruit"

[brave fable]

i say this with all the love in my heart, most technically edible things seem to become yummy things when viewed through the lens of chinese cooking

[hard fern]

theyre both pea and flower but sweet pea peas are not edible

[velvet narwhal]

me: everything tastes good with gochujang, right?

[rancid temple]

I love Chinese food, I don't want to know what it's made out of thanks, but it's really good

[vernal crest]

Me: nothing tastes good, nothing is edible

[sweet sphinx]

can you eat the flower?

[brave fable]

surprisingly, you may be eligible to become an ingredient in chinese cooking.

[vernal crest]

Take too long in blueberry's maze, get turned into food

[sweet sphinx]

bc I swear sweet peas are edible in-game

[brave fable]

i'm very sure sweet pea is inedible

[sweet sphinx]

which is why it's bugging me

[brave fable]

at least ingame

[brittle pasture]

It is edible, but it restores 0 energy and health

[rancid temple]

Technically there's "edible" stuff in the game that actively hurts you to eat

[uncut viper]

(and in fact removing the empty description space from non-restoring food items like sweet peas is one of the 1.6.9 bug fixes)

[hard fern]

🤔 well i looked it up and sweet peas in general arent edible

but there are Sweet Peas (not the flower kind) that are edible

[vernal crest]

My nickname as a baby was sweetpea

[sweet sphinx]

cute

[vernal crest]

Only my dad can't spell very well so he called me sweatpea xD

[rancid temple]

I made a cake that puts you into diabetic shock as a test mod

[sweet sphinx]

ah, so you're not meant to eat sweetpeas then...

[hard fern]

so if you want edible peas there's plenty out there, but maybe stay away from the ones in sdv XD

[velvet narwhal]

is this a cry for help

[uncut viper]

its just a cosmetic fix

[rancid temple]

If it was, it wouldn't be a very good one :D

[sweet sphinx]

I'm just trying to figure out which plants to add to the "golden plated" mod I am...somehow making

[hard fern]

ah so thats why i could eat a daffodil huh

[uncut viper]

to be clear, im pretty sure you will still be able to eat them

[sweet sphinx]

I just wanted a golden carrot, why am I making a bunch of golden foods??

[uncut viper]

they just will not have an extra blank space after their description where normally the amount of health/stam restored would display

[sweet sphinx]

ah

[hard fern]

🤔 i feel like i remember them not being edible though

[uncut viper]

they are edible

[brittle pasture]

theyve been edible for as long as I have played, around 1.3 or so

[sweet sphinx]

I only know bc I ate one back when I was playing it with friends

[uncut viper]

same with crocus

[hard fern]

maybe ive just never munched flowers before XD

[sweet sphinx]

I know roses are edible

[rancid temple]

Desperately looking up what's edible in the first couple days to try to get some more stamina

[sweet sphinx]

but those aren't in the game

[velvet narwhal]

horseradish, a whole one, right down the hatch

[hard fern]

fairy rose? 🤔

the farmer must have no tastebuds

[uncut viper]

may i present to you a bed

[brittle pasture]

when in doubt, scarp down a carp

[brave fable]

bed is NOT edible

[velvet narwhal]

i don't have anyone to play multiplayer with

[rancid temple]

This was before I used mods, so in singleplayer beds were only good for sleeping and I was trying to avoid that :P

[hard fern]

not with that attitude

[uncut viper]

i thought you could in SP too?

just dont say yes to sleep

[rancid temple]

As far as I'm aware, beds don't recover stamina in singleplayer

[uncut viper]

hmm

[rancid temple]

Without mods

[sweet sphinx]

tbh idk if those are real flowers, but my bare minimum knowlege of flowers says it's a possibility, but I don't think those are related to roses(based on the sprites)

[uncut viper]

well find some friends then /lh

[acoustic stag]

fairy roses are definitely not real

[hard fern]

sadly

[sweet sphinx]

damn

[brittle pasture]

I managed to lure a friend to SDV a couple weeks ago. I haven't played with them since because 1.6.9 + mod jam

[hard fern]

blue jazz looks like alliums though

[sweet sphinx]

they'd be pretty

aren't alliums(onions?) purple and white tho?

[lucid iron]

do u think this is clearer example

[hard fern]

theyre onions but have flowers

[lucid iron]

of what the whole repeat thing is about

[acoustic stag]

fairy roses are like, nominally aesthetically similar to some peonies ive seen? but those (like roses) grow in bushes iirc which is not how they work in the game

[sweet sphinx]

ohh, didn't know they had blue varients too

[hard fern]

their shades can be from pink, purple, blue, white, any kind of shade in those areas

[sweet sphinx]

nice

[hard fern]

people just grow them for the flowers though

[rancid temple]

This looks like a set up for a card game and I love that, I'm so out of the loop of what it's intending though lol

[sweet sphinx]

tbh I wanna grow one irl so badly, they're my fav flower

[velvet narwhal]

i am now gonna make stardew yugioh

"i cast pot of greed--"

[vernal crest]

If this is the repeat frameset thing, I am now confused about it haha

[lucid iron]

there's 6 things gettin drawn here, but only 1 is real

the other 5 r fake

[sweet sphinx]

yall think I should add the (add health edible) mushrooms to the gold plated mod?

[vernal crest]

Maybe button is better placed to give feedback on the visual, because I already understood it from the explanation

[lucid iron]

and it is alternating between the 3 sets of sprites (black dgray lgray)

[uncut viper]

uhhh lemme scroll

[lucid iron]

this bs is really just

the corpse of snek attempt 1

recycled cus it seems useful

[uncut viper]

ok so wait so. is the effect like. uh.
can you post the text description screenshot again,

[lucid iron]

To make the companion appear as multiple entities without truly spawning a second companion, there is a mechanism to repeat a draw with a delay to create "shadow clones" of the companion. Only the original "true" companion is capable of granting their position to abilities.

An extra special mechanic here is `RepeatFrameSets`. One frameset refers to the number of frames needed for the companion's movements, derived from [direction mode](3.0-Direction.md) and `FrameLength`, plus any additional `AnimClips` frames. When `RepeatFrameSets` is greater than 0, an offset equal to 1x frameset is applied prior to a repeat draw, so that the "shadow clone" companion can take on a different appearance.

this particular sheet has 3 frame sets, 8 frames each

it has a repeat count of 2, so u get 6 things in the end