making-mods-general

[lucid iron]

we made custom building type

which gets put into the serialization json file all fine

its just not getting put back on load

[next plaza]

Hmm

[lucid iron]

bc that bit i linked didnt find an entry point

[next plaza]

Curious.

Remind me in 30 minutes to look into that

[patent lance]

.....ok..... (#6293487) (30m | <t:1728595679>)

[next plaza]

(I’m about to get off work)

[lucid iron]

i printed the instructions and indeed theres no DeserializeProxy getting added

[ivory plume]

(There's some fairly significant changes to the SaveGame model in the latest 1.6.9 patch.)

[next plaza]

Ohhhh

That explains it

I was about to say #BlamePathos, looks like I was right

[ivory plume]

(Nope! You can #blameMyuu for this one.)

[lucid iron]

here's my minimum repo mod, it tries to give well a custom building type

[ivory plume]

(The changes will help SpaceCore long-term though, since it means the save/load logic is much more similar between PC/mobile/console going forward.)

[rancid temple]

Thank you for saving my sanity lol. Bittersweet relief to know it wasn't just something I was doing wrong

[vernal bone]

This might be a dumb question (sorry in advance lmao) but does anyone know if it's possible to add a gift box to a map w/ content patcher? Specifically, I want to make it so when you marry a someone, a different gift box spawns in the farmhouse depending on who you marry, but so far all I'm seeing is modding the gift box that spawns in a new save

[brave fable]

i was so productive before i installed the 1.6.9 beta 😌 spacecore as a dependency on every mod..

[lucid iron]

need FTM i believe

despite the name FTM is the "spawn stuff on any map" framework

[next plaza]

SpaceCore can do something similar too

With the loot chests

Though... given the farmhouse, not sure how you'd make it work per player

[lucid iron]

maybe u can just have the spouse mail you stuff though

[brittle pasture]

mailing is definitely the easiest method that doesnt require any extra dependencies

[brave fable]

but also why would your husband/wife send you something in the mail. they live there. it's their house lol

[brittle pasture]

I was thinking housewarming gifts from others, in which case it makes sense in the mailbox

[lucid iron]

they bought it from joja.net

[patent lance]

@next plaza: look into that (30m ago)

[next plaza]

Literally just opened it uber

[vernal bone]

looking at FTM, it looks like this'll have what I need 👀 thank you!! I know mail would technically be easier, but I just figure a box would make more sense in this context lol

like if I was moving 5-10 minutes away to a different house in the same town, I'm just gonna throw my stuff in a box and go, not ship it LMAO

[crystal field]

Sorry it this is in the wrong place.

So i want to make a stardew valley mod and have all the coding skills to do it. But I completely lack any pixels art skill. Any tips or resources out there? I don't want to put out something with crap art.

[lucid iron]

#making-mods-art might have better answers for u here

art has no rules though just try stuff and see how it goes

!software

[ocean sail]

Here's a list of software for pixel art and JSON text editors we recommend: https://gist.github.com/ishanjalan/c8efb21afa21f74a052293176db107f7

For making SMAPI (C#) mods, see the Requirements section here for which IDE to install https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#Get_started.

To use this command, type !software.

[brittle pasture]

just opening up and editing vanilla sprites help immensely in getting your feet wet

speaking from experience as an art deficient coder

[vernal crest]

There's also free or low-cost pixel art resources around like on Itch or open game art

[next plaza]

Sorry, still blaming you. That's just how the meme goes 😔

[lucid iron]

what kind of mod are u hope to make anyways

there's a lot of things you can do just by recontexualizing vanilla assets

[ivory plume]

That's fair. Since I'm committed now, I may as well refactor the save logic.

[brave fable]

if you've got the coding ability, wrap that up first and use placeholder or base-game art where you will -- once you know the concept's sound, you can dig into the art as you like

[crystal field]

Thanks I will see what I can find and I will just fire up good old Aseprite and see what I can pull off.

Already, have most things working feature and map wise really just lacking art. Already using placeholder art

[next plaza]

@lucid iron @brave fable ?

[lucid iron]

happy to report it worked

[next plaza]

Hooray!

[rose forge]

maybe this will be a noobish question but I have made a custom tilesheet set for myself, I can use it in tiled to make the map, but the recolors will not work, and if I remove the original tilesheet i edited from the same folder as the map, it will not load the map into smapi

    ```{
        "Action": "Load",
        "Target": "Maps/z_nesting_box_dark",
        "FromFile": "Assets/Maps/z_nesting_box_dark.png"
    },
    {
        "Action": "EditImage",
    "PatchMode": "Replace",
        "Target": "Assets/Maps/z_nesting_box_dark",
        "FromFile": "Assets/Tilesheets/z_nesting_box_{{woodcolor}}.png"
    },```

here is my code? tilesheet works but recolor does not change anything

[lucid iron]

Assets/Maps/z_nesting_box_dark

should be Maps/z_nesting_box_dark

[brave fable]

loads save with errors and warnings:
https://smapi.io/log/b7aad7bac0e44a8ca28590bbeae16668

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.1.0-beta.4 with SDV 1.6.9 'beta' build 24284 on Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, with 22 C# mods and 4 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[rose forge]

okay I try that ty

[crystal field]

It's a new small new town and NPC expansion mod. Just cleaning up the last few events and looking into killing my place holder art. So I can put up version 0.1.

Making portraits from scratch is the primary difficulty at this point

[heady crest]

is this how i make a working door? checked teh wiki but its kinda vague (or im dumb)

[rose forge]

i'm now getting an error ;-;

[Content Patcher] Patch error: (CP) Immersive Barns and Coops > Load Maps/z_nesting_box_dark has a FromFile which matches non-existent file 'Maps\z_nesting_box_dark.png'.

[next plaza]

wha-

[vernal crest]

!comms There's also commissions as an option

[ocean sail]

If you're looking for people who do mod commissions (either art or code), here's a wiki page with a non-comprehensive list of people who do them: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions

To use this command, type !comms.

[next plaza]

@ivory plume Are these errors SMAPI or SpaceCore?

[vernal crest]

I think Chue meant remove "Assets" from the Target for the EditImage, not from the FromFile for the Load.

[brave fable]

how come package.smapi.io isn't a valid domain, but json.smapi.io and log.smapi.io are

[ivory plume]

(Legacy reasons; the JSON and log parsers used to be subdomains, before they were moved to smapi.io/*.)

[ivory plume]

Looks like SMAPI will need an update for the changes too.

[crystal field]

I have a feeling that's what it will come down to. Just was hoping to save the cash. But i will do what I need to to put out quality.

[faint remnant]

Is it possible to edit the mill/what items can go in/out of it with CP?

[lucid iron]

ya

vanilla mill has example

iirc cornucopia give molasses this way too

[faint remnant]

Thank you!

[calm nebula]

Later: okay, stardew saves are json now

[velvet narwhal]

Oh-- the midnight beta was much more than I thought. (Time to take a break from my c# for a few days excuseexcuseexcuse)

[brave fable]

content patcher incompatible == modding incompatible

[blissful saddle]

Hello, my fellow modders.

First time tinkering with Stardew Mods and, before I dwell too deep just to find it was attempted already and not possible, I decided to make this a question:

It is possible to alter the Total Exp needed to level up the skills?

I got to this playing a bit with LevelingAdjustment and finding that I am very unsatisfied in how it approaches the matter, altering the gained xp in the case, and stumbling on things like partial XP. I know the mod has an option to round up the partial ones, but it's very this that makes the solution unsavoring to me.

I would like to make skill leveling slower or faster without resorting to this, and simply altering the amount of xp needed to progress.

[lucid iron]

i guess you can just give the needed exp to next level once u hit a specific lower number

not sure what is wrong with just altering the exp gained though

[tender bloom]

Anything is possible with enough C#

This particular thing might be super annoying

Especially if you want company with other mods

Mostly ones that touch professions

[lucid iron]

yea im mainly concerned about spacecore skills

u can always patch spacecore ofc

[blissful saddle]

the main problem is that when the altered exp is between 0-1, when goes to integer, the system gets it as 0. Or 1 with the Round Up option built in (ceiling)

[lucid iron]

u could prob make a float just to hold the remainder

[blissful saddle]

my target is to make, as an example, if would need 5 trees cut to goes from Foragin 0 to 1, now one would need 20. so making the rate go for 0.25

[lucid iron]

give the 1 exp once u have 1.23920 or whatever

[blissful saddle]

cutting a tree is 1 exp though

[lucid iron]

continuing with 0.23920 in the remainder

[blissful saddle]

this is a good thing, but I would preffer to tinker with the total exp instead of making a LevelingAdjustment 2.0

[lucid iron]

as long as you account for spacecore skills in your solution, it should be fine

this is C# land you are free

[brave fable]

spacecore at least lets modded skills define an experience-per-level array themselves, so overriding those is simple enough. if the base game is similar, you can easily replace experience requirements

[blissful saddle]

I think making the inverse rate act over the Total Exp once a day instead of calculating the exp gained would be also a cleaner solution

[blissful saddle]

I looked over the Love of Cooking code to have this idea, so thanks a lot

I will dwell on the game libraries so to get where the Total Exp is stored and if it can be set, changed or at least worked with (as a fake exp). I also looked at the LevelingAdjustment code to have some ideas, but it just refers to Player.gainedexp

as would be expected, of course

[brave fable]

LOC is even easier to change experience scaling; the experience-per-level array is loaded from a data file, so it's editable with just Content Patcher
https://github.com/b-b-blueberry/CooksAssistant/blob/feature/sdv-1-6/LoveOfCooking [CP]/assets/mod-data.json#L37-L53

[blissful saddle]

the main target is to alter the base game skills first. I hope it is as easy as the LOC solution sounds

even if not changing the base game values perse, but at the exp check

I am right now setting my visual studio project as says the modding guide on the wiki

[boreal peak]

Would anyone be available and willing to showcase a mod post for me? I do not have a high enough role.

[dusty scarab]

I can't, but I'd love to see what kind of mod it is

for some reason, nexus mods doesn't seem to want to load for me right now

[lucid iron]

link the mod here

and write what msg u want to put

[boreal peak]

Thanks! Not sure if it'll work, but I wanted to try to make a post with a gif as well. Here goes

Convenient Inventory 1.5 is now available! This update includes: a new quick stack animation (which also works in multiplayer), new quick stack range options "Location" and "Global", a toggleable Auto Organize mode for chests, a Take All But One item modifier hotkey, along with many other improvements and bug fixes. See the updated mod page here for more info: https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/10384. Enjoy!

[lucid iron]

i dont think gifs work over the publish thing

[brave fable]

sure they do
https://github.com/aquova/leah/blob/master/src/main.py#L213-L229

[lucid iron]

yay lets give it a shot

[brave fable]

if they don't then that's just another thing i've broken lol

[onyx hamlet]

Do you have a link to the alpha/beta for the LOC mod? :3

[brave fable]

sure, it's in here:
#modded-stardew message

[onyx hamlet]

tysm!!!

[boreal peak]

@lucid iron I see the showcase, looks perfect. Thanks a bunch!

[dusty scarab]

I have realized that I need to stop trying to find solutions to every problem I encounter now that I have the power of Content Patcher, otherwise I will keep making solutions and never play again XD

is... is this the cheeto curse?

[brave fable]

just one of the many responsibilities of godhood

[dusty scarab]

I should not want to make a mod just to hide a single star trek reference in one of the items XD

[proven spindle]

Someone made a mod to fix a single missing pixel in one of the fish sprites. I say go for it

[dusty scarab]

...I'm already working on art assets XD

[lucid iron]

there's a mod that brings it back too

[vernal crest]

Haha I was going to mention 6480's fish mod

The mod description says "why would you even download this"

[dusty scarab]

speaking of fish mods, I hope that one person who was working on better images for the fish is able to post their mod soon. I'm looking forward to better pictures of feesh!

[teal bridge]

Hey @ivory plume, do you think you might ever consider adding a ContentHelper.LoadAsync, where mods can request an asset to be loaded in the background and then use OnAssetReady to pick it up?

[ivory plume]

The game is single-threaded and not really threadsafe; so even if the mod doesn't need to handle it immediately, the load will still happen single-threadedly as soon as it's called.

[teal bridge]

Ah, alright... I figured it could open the file, do the parsing/decoding/whatever in the background, and then just do the "submission" back on the main thread.

[blissful saddle]

I just noticed I may make LevelingAdjustment 2.0, but because the code is not so hard to update to my purposes

[ivory plume]

(RIP my Nexus DP. After the changes to that system, my amount for September is the lowest since July 2021. )

[next plaza]

Same here, down to the month 😔

There's hope for "some point in the future" though:

[velvet narwhal]

it's time to riot if they only pick the other games for that 'special pool of extra dp'

[lucid iron]

i wonder what kind of algo inadvently leads to modding tools to get dp cut

cant just be bell curving this right

[velvet narwhal]

i think i read somewhere about repeated downloads and repeated users across your downloads? but i honestly have no idea

[tender bloom]

I feel like framework is hard to define, I sort of expect them to get things wrong potentially

Like, obviously SMAPI and spacecore: yes

But I wrote a dinky little mod to add some conversation topics Lumi wanted

Technically that’s a framework I guess?? It’s no SMAPI

[calm nebula]

The algorithm is to give pathos and Casey ($$$$$$

And I would vote for that algorithm

[tender bloom]

Specifically just the two of them 😛

[brittle pasture]

that counts; in fact I'm going to add that to the framework page right now
/s

[tender bloom]

More seriously, I do think the two of them definitely do, but it’s hard to pick as you get smaller and smaller

[vernal crest]

Maybe they will look at the number of required mods or something - and by that I mean number of other mods requiring the framework mod

[tender bloom]

And nexus hasn’t got a lot of good will these days for making definitely good choices that everyone understands

[lucid iron]

if nexus seavers become 2~5x more reliable in exchange for deleting the DP system i'd take it

[tender bloom]

I do believe they’re making the choices they think are best for whatever their personal metrics are, I just think they’re doing an awful job of selling that story to their audience

[velvet narwhal]

it's too complicated for nexus imo, but if i'm making a pack for a framework even though, yes, i am contributing to their UDL's by making a pack, i would still like to opt in to contributing further with my own UDLs or whatever they're attributing dp to
i get that i could just add in their names to my dp split but it lags and i'm forgetful

[old edge]

Hello I'm working on my first farm map ever. I have an issue with the greenhouse appearing glitched out. anyone know which mod is causing it?

[dusty scarab]

what even is the DP system?

[rancid temple]

I feel like the greenhouse entrance tiles being weird shows up fairly often but I can't remember if I've ever been here when the fix is found

[velvet narwhal]

i can't... specifically remember if it's because the greenhouse itself is not in a favorable spot, or if it's a tilesheet, or some other thing

[rancid temple]

#making-mods-general message

[vernal crest]

Donation Points. Nexus gives you money according to how popular your mod is every month.

[rancid temple]

Looks like those tiles are hardcoded

[dusty scarab]

ahhh. okay, so it's an incentive system, that's nice of them to have

[rancid temple]

Though it's more like, how popular is every mod you have now

[velvet narwhal]

is it? i thought they were trying to move away from the modular mods

[rancid temple]

As I understood it, it was essentially how much traffic all your mods generate, rather than based on each one

[velvet narwhal]

ah, that's where my reading comprehension failed

[rancid temple]

But also they aren't exactly saying that, because they don't want people to know 100% what it is

[velvet narwhal]

the double edged sword, you want true transparency to the ones who deserve it, but you're also opening your back to those who will abuse it

[rancid temple]

Trust nobody: never be betrayed

[tiny zealot]

thinking about how trustno1 is (or maybe only used to be) one of like the top 5 most common passwords

[rancid temple]

Lol

[calm nebula]

I make chatgpt handle all my passwords

[rancid temple]

nOt StRoNg EnOuGh, NeEdS a SpEcIaL cHaRaCtEr

[tender bloom]

Also numbers

[calm nebula]

Hey, life is fleeting. Live on the edge

[tender bloom]

But some special characters are banned

[rancid temple]

Also make it long, but not too long

[calm nebula]

My bank password is Bobby drop table

[lucid iron]

Swordfish

[velvet narwhal]

are we all gonna move to stenographing passwords

[tiny zealot]

my god, maximum length limits i am resisting the urge to fly into a rage

[rancid temple]

Special characters are my trigger

[lucid iron]

.choose docs, sml, me own farm map

[patent lance]

Choose result: me own farm map

[lucid iron]

Scary

[velvet narwhal]

wdym, it's not bad

[rancid temple]

Especially when it refuses to tell me that I need to use one when signing in

[lucid iron]

.chooses docs, sml

[velvet narwhal]

LMAO

[rancid temple]

Like I don't remember which sites I've had to put special characters in my password so fucking tell me

[lucid iron]

I'll do sml probably

Docs also scary

[velvet narwhal]

i've gotten so used to adding a special character that i forget which specific password of mine got gibbed by a hacked website

[rancid temple]

Lol, flip a coin and if you don't like the result, then you know which one you wanted to do

[lucid iron]

Exactly

[calm nebula]

What is sml?

[lucid iron]

I do want to make a farm that's got a big canyon in it

[brittle pasture]

you need to rig it, add multiple options that's the one you want

[velvet narwhal]

https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1293051032904925255 focus' stardewui

[brittle pasture]

(though that doesn't always work: #programmers-off-topic message)

[lucid iron]

Make another example for focustense's stardewui, sml being the file extension for the ui templates

[brittle pasture]

it's a markup lang like xml

kinda like XUL

[calm nebula]

Nice!

[velvet narwhal]

iirc focus said it's a hybridization of html + xml

[lucid iron]

the problem with farm maps is like

theres too many good ones out there but u only use 1 at a time

[velvet narwhal]

pif it-- (has no idea how pif works)

[lucid iron]

maybe i just make more pif instead

[rancid temple]

Make a mod that lets you buy and run additional farms

[brittle pasture]

That already exists

[lucid iron]

i figured out how to build in my pif cave (while banning it from regular carpenters)

so it can totally just be a farm lul

[brittle pasture]

Stardew Realty I think

[velvet narwhal]

uploaded in august

[brittle pasture]

Though literally every expansion mod also adds their own farm lol

[velvet narwhal]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/10512?tab=files farm maps are an addiction once you get over the initial bumps though

[calm nebula]

(I still want a farm map where you start out super tiny but you increase space over time via unlockable bundles.)

You knoe

For 2026

[velvet narwhal]

i just replicate raccoon-- no

[rancid temple]

I was thinking about that when I saw some of the tiny farm maps too

Having an expandable farm would be neat

[calm nebula]

Hi rhubarb!

[brave fable]

do hearts and stars exist in the dialogue font, or just in the small font?

[velvet narwhal]

unlockable i assume exactly like the community center

[brave fable]

whobarb

[calm nebula]

I mean like the framework mod unlockable bundles

Because I as sure as fjck will not be doing my own menuing

[velvet narwhal]

who knows, could easily dig my heels into stardewui

[brave fable]

i thought draylon had a farm map with this setup? or was this Cave Farm(tm)

[velvet narwhal]

and i wouldn't have to deal with the offset tree

[calm nebula]

I cannot be trained to maintain anything anymore

[calm nebula]

No idea

Look, I only recently recalled that I have a Nexus accounr

I haven't logged in at all for months

[velvet narwhal]

to help with aquarium and then vanish back into the void?

[calm nebula]

vanishes prematurely

[velvet narwhal]

y'know, maybe i could implement unlockable bundles in my already tiny farm map and just ... extend with conditions

[pine elbow]

How would I go about making a mod that extends the earthly recolor mod to cover the vanillin farm mod? I have no idea where to begin

[modest dagger]

why did i immediately know that username was you atra

[true coyote]

Speaking of sdr, has it been updated lately? It was a little... buggy/conflicting last time I used it

[brittle pasture]

If you just want this for personal use, the absolute easiest way is to download that farm mod and recolor its tilesheets directly

with your graphic editing program of choice

[calm nebula]

I kept my avatar

This isn't hard

Maybe I need a new profile pic

[velvet narwhal]

knitted socks

[brittle pasture]

if you want to make a separate, reuseable mod that doesn't touch the original, I would get familiar with Content Patcher's syntax and how it loads/edits image assets, find the tilesheet asset the farm map is using, and edit it with your own edits

[pine elbow]

What file would I access to do this? sorry I have little to none modding experience

I feel like you just answered that question before I even sent it

[brittle pasture]

Browse the SDV mod directory, find the farm mod's folder, and see if it uses any pngs

[lucid iron]

anyone knows what lefauxmatt's shopping cart mod used to do

it's hidden rn

[pine elbow]

I have the mod downloaded already and I have the pngs open, I’m just not sure how to get to the same color scheme that DaisyNiko uses

[velvet narwhal]

i'd assume it held items in a separate 'box' rather than immediately buying from the store?

[brittle pasture]

Open up earthy recolor's pngs in a separate window and use the color picking tool

[velvet narwhal]

usually looks like this

[brittle pasture]

Then paint all over. Trust your judgement and your eyes

Alternatively, depending on what image editor you're using and your level of knowledge you can hue shift the entire thing

that's a bit more finnicky though

[velvet narwhal]

maybe i take this time to actually play the game again

deactivates my own mods though

[teal bridge]

Now that's just mean, right there. It's a minimalist HTML-flavored framework like Angular or Vue templates.

[brittle pasture]

XUL is awesome!
(Admittedly I only say that because of fond memories with XUL addons and not any experience actually working with it in any serious manner)

[teal bridge]

Hah, I'll take your word for it. I only know it as a minor failed/obsoleted framework that was mostly an internal Mozilla plaything.

There really is no XML whatsoever involved, though.

[brittle pasture]

(It's not that internal, Firefox/Thunderbird's GUI used to all be XUL. And so were its addons, being allowed to directly modify the browser's GUI in ways that isn't allowed now. Arguably it failed because it was too big for Mozilla to maintain; allowing extensions with that level of control was too risky, and letting Google maintain WebExtensions for them to use was much less effort)

There's like at least 4 Firefox forks that added XUL back to the browser

[vernal crest]

I think DaisyNiko might have Photoshop masks for her recolours - or someone else has

I've downloaded some but haven't actually looked at them yet and am on mobile at the mall so I don't have links

[pine elbow]

Were they on nexus?

[vernal crest]

Yup I'll try to find them

[velvet narwhal]

(nexus might be a lil slow unless it's just me)

[vernal crest]

Found it https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/21545

[pine elbow]

Tysm, now I just gotta figure out how to use it 💀

[heady crest]

can someone tell my why the warp isnt working? idk whats wrong here

[lucid iron]

did u forgor your {{ModID}} again

[heady crest]

huuuuhhhh

[brittle pasture]

Your warp is Maxine_Railroad, while the actual name is MalkeTFC_MaxineCustomNPC_Maxine_Railroad

[heady crest]

ah

i have to put all that on the warp thing?

[brittle pasture]

yeh

[zenith robin]

Yes, because to the game that whole thing is the name of your location.

[heady crest]

ohhhh

right

sounds like it makes sense

so ill go with it

[lucid iron]

you can do the warp in content patcher instead if u want to use token

[heady crest]

like this right

[tiny zealot]

the debug command helpfully does fuzzy matching, which is why it works in the SMAPI console with the shortened name

[harsh harbor]

Stardew mods are codded in c# correct?

[brittle pasture]

code mods, yes.
content mods use JSON files and rely on a framework like Content Patcher to add them to the game

[harsh harbor]

Ah okay thats cool

Was just wondering how everyone learned c#?

[zenith robin]

I don't know about others, but most of my knowledge of C# is from reading documentation and trial and error when making mods.

[brittle pasture]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#Learn_C.23 can help

C# is one of the easier languages to get started, especially if you already know how to program

[harsh harbor]

I do not know how to, been tryna learn c# and unity recently was just curious on others methods to learn

[brittle pasture]

That link I posted has links to a couple beginner guides

[calm nebula]

!yellowbook

[ocean sail]

A good book for learning c# is https://www.robmiles.com/c-yellow-book

To use this command, type !yellowbook.

[calm nebula]

But nothing really beats opening VS and arguing with it until it bends to your will

What are you trying to make?

[brave fable]

a course in c, cpp, and java is enough to make anyone learn c#

[teal bridge]

I don't think C++ is so bad, though C# is certainly easier to work with for things like this.

[pine elbow]

I’ve spent the last hour trying to make this file into a mask layer but my photoshop app is just not havin it

[dusty scarab]

I do love me some Stardew Realty

[heady crest]

i saw a actiontouch thing on the wiki to make the player sleep but i tried it and it just makes the screen darker without going to the next day

is it a bug or its supposed to work like that

[harsh harbor]

Im tryna learn how to make a game, always been interested in coding

[dusty scarab]

if you're still looking for an answer on this, I've been using it since 1.5, and the changes made in 1.6 helped a ton with its stability and loading times

[harsh harbor]

An online course or?

[brave fable]

university haha

[harsh harbor]

Ya i was thinking of starting some type of night class to learn it cuz i get to distracted at home trying to learn

[rancid temple]

I learned the absolute basics of Java and C++ but didn't ever leverage them the way I did C#, need projects to practice and grow with

[brave fable]

yep, it's one thing having best practices and requirements drilled into you with deadlines, and it's another to really want to do something and do it well

it's good to have a balance of both.

[old edge]

The island tilesheet 1!!!!!!!!

Yeah it's new but also this one only blends with the summer tilesheet!

The green grass of spring and fall won't match up.

Am I correct?

Idk actually maybe your not using grass

I'm making my first farm but only using the summer ones since the ginger island tilesheets don't have seasonal changes

[teal bridge]

That's uncharacteristically serious of you. You care about best practices and deadlines?

[old edge]

I think the dirt is the same color

[brave fable]

i have a job lol, i'd like to keep it

[teal bridge]

Ah, the ole-fashioned real life.

(Though TBH, my reaction to arbitrary deadlines at work has generally been double-barrel middle fingers, too)

[brave fable]

you probably have a lot more clout at your office than me then

[teal bridge]

Maybe. It helps to actually be very productive if you want to say "it'll be done when it's done". But it's also frame.

I don't argue or get upset, I just laugh uproariously when they say it has to be done in 6 months and reply that they'll be lucky if it's done in a year.

[brave fable]

i suppose it helps we run on short release cycles. either way it's funny to be described as uncharacteristically serious

[teal bridge]

If you've got a team that runs on short release cycles and plans that way then you've got it good. Most "agile" is actually "ok we'll have status updates every 2 weeks but we still need quarterly estimates for everything".

(I don't know your role; if you're not a lead, then your lead may shield you from that nonsense; I always did.)

[rancid temple]

I really thought I had seen something recently about sleeping in different locations but I can't find anything by searching

[rancid temple]

I tested this and the lights shut off, I walked out of the room and it ended the day lol

[teal bridge]

You mean tent kits, or is this related to a specific mod?

[rancid temple]

Specifically about adding sleeping to locations that aren't the farmhouse I guess

Using TouchAction Sleep

[heady crest]

yeah same here

when i stepped out the home it updated to the next day

[old edge]

Sleeping you add a bed tile property and add a ✔️

What's it called a Boolean? With the touch action sleep.

On back layer

[slate totem]

Hello! Sorry to break the flow of conversation. Newbie modder question. I've been stuck trying to figure out how to make it so the game checks if I want to gift my custom item like with regular game items - i.e. if I wanted to gift Abigail an amethyst. Right now as soon as I'm next to the NPC the item is gifted. Where should I be looking to find information for this type of check? I hope that makes sense

[teal bridge]

It's amusing to hear this channel described as a flow of conversation. It's more like a circus.

Is your question that you want to show some kind of modal dialog before the item gets gifted? Because that isn't something that happens with normal gifting.

[slate totem]

So like the little present that pops up on your cursor when you hover over an NPC with an item in your hand. Right now if my item is in my characters hand it just gives it, no clicking needed

[brittle pasture]

that sounds like a bug, unless you specifically coded it to do that?

[teal bridge]

It's definitely not a vanilla behavior that I've ever observed.

[zenith robin]

If you are using content patcher to add the item, it should act as normal items do with regards to gifting.

[brave fable]

have you any other mods installed, or just your own?

[slate totem]

I did not code it to do that on purpose.
I have other mods installed yeah. I was trying to fix the Adopt Leo mod for my own game but gave up and decided to make my own. Maybe I messed up somewhere in the object.json then and the game isn't registering it as a normal item

[ivory plume]

Can you post a zip of the mod, so I can see what the game code is doing? (You can send it to me in a DM if you don't want it to be public yet.)

[slate totem]

Yessir! Give me a sec to zip it

It's a hot mess

[rancid temple]

Took me a minute to figure out what dreamygloom meant, but they are indeed correct

[heady crest]

Bed?

should i add that for it to work?

[rancid temple]

Yeah you can put it on the same TileData

[zenith robin]

Is it just leo that you are having an issue with, or is it any npc?

[unique sigil]

i just had a brilliant idea, but i have to know if it's possible to add custom panning data to a modded farm map? or on a custom map in general

[slate totem]

I honestly haven't tried to give it to any other npc yet

[old edge]

I found this method which is the same thing.

[rancid temple]

Probably because it doesn't actually care what the value of Bed is

Just that it has a value at all

[brittle pasture]

Pan drops are still hardcoded unfortunately

[rancid temple]

I actually gotta wait for SpaceCore and CP to be updated before I can get back to working on mods lol

[brave fable]

surprisingly, spacecore is updated, just cp isn't

[brittle pasture]

Oh but Item Extensions add it apparently!

https://github.com/misty-spring/StardewMods/blob/main/ItemExtensions/docs/Panning.md

[rancid temple]

Oh, I hadn't checked if Casey actually pushed that earlier code lol

[unique sigil]

thanks! i'll take a look

[rancid temple]

I tried to fix CP myself but I don't actually know what the original code is supposed to be doing so I have no idea if my fix works as intended lol

[velvet narwhal]

Yeeep I decided to take a break and organize all of my vs22 and gits until we get cp back

[slate totem]

Okay I just tried to give the item to krobus and I got the gift icon and had to click to gift. So its definitely just Leo

[zenith robin]

Okay, I had the same interaction with the other npc's, so I will look into Leo in a min. I just have to get a save to that point.

[slate totem]

Thank you so much for helping

[heady crest]

thanks!!!

[ivory plume]

That doesn't happen for me in Stardew Valley 1.6.8 or 1.6.9. Does it still happen if you temporarily remove all mods except Content Patcher and your content pack?

[slate totem]

I'll give it a go!

[slate totem]

Okay so I removed everything except Content Patcher and SVE + dependencies and it is working as intended now

[zenith robin]

Well that's good. I think it would be interesting to know what mod was causing the problem though. But that is something to think about later.

[rancid temple]

Even with that SpaceCore version from earlier, I'm actually getting errors from every mod trying to access StardewValley.SaveGame.CustomData

[slate totem]

Yep! I'll keep it just as is for now and work out my dialogue bugs. Thank you so much for helping me figure it out. It was driving me nuts

[ivory plume]

Make sure you have the latest 1.6.9 build 24285, which should fix that.

[rancid temple]

Ah ok, my Steam is being lazy about updating me. Thanks

(Elden Ring update drops that breaks every mod, updates the second it becomes available. Opt-in to a SDV beta because I'm trying to make sure stuff continues working, updates every other day I guess. Thanks Gabe)

Huzzah, no errors

[brittle pasture]

You can set update priority in Steam

There's a settings for "update as soon as possible" instead of whatever scheduling it uses

[rancid temple]

Ah, I see, thanks. I used this setting for ER to try to keep it from updating, though it ignored my choice. Forgot about it since though lol

[heady crest]

why does the warp on the editmap section works but not the ones in load? should i put those somewhere else?

ive treid putting it here too but it didnt work

[rancid temple]

Load can't use tokens

[heady crest]

idek whats a token.....

[rancid temple]

{{ModId}}

[ivory plume]

(Load can use tokens in the patch itself, but the issue is that AddWarps isn't a field of Load patches.)

[heady crest]

sorry guys im really new to this, it smy first time modding

dont mind me being kinda stupid soemtimes

[rancid temple]

Oh, huh I had heard Load couldn't use tokens before

[brave fable]

does anyone in the SDV repository know if there were changes to CraftingPage.cs:clickCraftingRecipe other than for checkForQuestComplete -> NotifyQuests in SDV1.6.9.x
i replaced my decompile export with the latest version without thinking.

[ivory plume]

Load only sets the initial version of an asset to a specific file; it doesn't make any edits to the file. To edit the map, you can add an EditMap patch to edit the asset after it's loaded.

[zenith robin]

There is no reason to be sorry, a lot of people get caught up, just earlier today I forgot a brace and spent half an hour trying to figure out what I did wrong.

[heady crest]

so i gotta make a editmap to the custom railroad?

[zenith robin]

I then quickly transitioned from notepad to VScode for editig json files.

[rancid temple]

Yeah, learning is a process. Like how I'll just spout stuff I thought I knew because I heard it before lmao

[ivory plume]

You can't use tokens inside the file you load. So for example, you can do this:

{
    "Action": "Load",
    "Target": "Characters/Dialogue/Abigail",
    "FromFile": "assets/{{TargetWithoutPath}}.json"
}

But tokens inside Abigail.json will be treated as plaintext.

(Basically you can use tokens in any patch field, but the file you load is raw data rather than part of your patch fields.)

[rancid temple]

Oh okay, so I'm just struggling with the brain thing right now

[tender bloom]

do you want the 1.6.8 vers or the 1.6.9 vers?

i freaking hate what github has done to their website

[ivory plume]

There are no changes to that method in 1.6.9 besides the NotifyQuests change.

[tender bloom]

all this stupid rich text feature stuff makes it borderline unresponsive

[ivory plume]

No worries, feel free to ask questions. That's what this channel is for!

[rancid temple]

So you should have your currently set up Load for the loading the tmx into Maps and then you need a separate patch block of EditMap in order to add those warps to the map

[brave fable]

thanks! my transpiler blew up a while ago and i wasn't sure if there was more to fix.

[ivory plume]

(Or you can put the warps in the map's Warps property directly in Tiled.)

[rancid temple]

Yeah, I usually decide where I'm gonna do it depending on if I'm using tokens or not

[heady crest]

i did that but the game was not loading the area if i put multiple warps at once

[rancid temple]

Unless I'm mistaken in if Tiled can use tokens or not too

[velvet narwhal]

tiled does not like tokens

[rancid temple]

I have only tried it once but it was one of my earliest mods so I can't be sure any more lol

[ivory plume]

Tokens only work in Content Patcher patches; anything outside Content Patcher (e.g. map files or loaded data files) can't use tokens.

[velvet narwhal]

the vague handwavy time that i used a 'token' with tiled, it was pulling from some convoluted way that i did it and i inevitably changed over to cp

[tender bloom]

idk what tiled thinks a token is but there's no way it's the same as what CP thinks a token is

[rancid temple]

Might be worth looking at how a vanilla maps has its Warp property set up, but I feel like even an improperly set up Warp should still load just with issues on the warps

[tender bloom]

improperly set warps used to crash if you tried to access the map

[rancid temple]

Pretty sure if you put a token in Tiled it just becomes literally that

[tender bloom]

I think that got better in 1.6 but I'm not sure

the warps field was incredibly touchy pre-1.6

i got so familiar with the errors it threw I could spot it just from a log most of the time

[old edge]

Is custom farm loader necessary for a new farm?

[vernal crest]

No

[ivory plume]

Warp properties are fully validated in 1.6, so theoretically broken warps shouldn't cause any issues beyond warps not working.

[vernal crest]

Broken warps just don't warp you to the map and you get an error in SMAPI

That it can't find the location

[brave fable]

what happened to my poor il.... ldloc.1 turned into some hideous ldfld class StardewValley.Item StardewValley.Menus.CraftingPage/'<>c__DisplayClass42_0'::crafted

i never knew captured variables were so ugly

[brittle pasture]

oh yeah welcome to the "nothing changed about this function but there's this wack capture class now?" club

#making-mods-general message
same function too

[lucid iron]

Is this from the notify quest thing added

It takes a delegate

[brave fable]

misery 🤝 company

[latent mauve]

You probably figured this out if you looked at other vanilla maps, but be careful not to use anything other than a single space to separate your warps in Tiled. No commas or anything like that.

I may have made that mistake before

[brave fable]

pathos: nooo we can't change the recipe method haha, think of the transpilers
pathos 5 mins later: 🔥

[velvet narwhal]

pathos did say blamemyuu

[brittle pasture]

to be fair, IIRC nothing actually changed

the compiler just decided to be funny apparently

[velvet narwhal]

[brave fable]

somewhere, a butterfly flapped its wings

this sent a ripple through the .net platform

[velvet narwhal]

and the save serializer, but casey is quick with it

[heady crest]

i dont think i did tho

then i'd reload the map on tiled and it'd automatically replace the space with \n

[late pewter]

I made the mistake of using a map that hadn't finished being updated to 1.6 thinking it worked because the comments said it worked. Anyways, it continues to disappoint me with how buggy it is, so I'm making my own now.

Question: What considerations do I need to keep in mind before making a map bigger? I have Tiled and all that jazz all set up, but:

1) How does the Game determine the warp locations for going to the Bus Stop/Cindersap Forest? Does it use the Entrance location where you get dropped off when entering the farm? And just kinda makes that tile and maybe the 8 tiles around it auto warp you to the forest/bus stop when you touch it? Or is there a hidden warp I'm not seeing?
2) How do I add more layers in Tiled? Unless I missed it, I don't think the wiki tutorial covers this...

[lucid iron]

Farm warps have special props

So their sizes are very flexible

For non farm maps if you extend right and down only then the original coords stay the same and you don't have to think about it

[velvet narwhal]

I don't suggest making vanilla maps 'bigger', as you'll inevitably run into incompatibility, you'd skew the <x> <y> coordinates if you were to expand the maps
"more layers" is subjective, if you're talking about the 'layering' affect like an art program, you can simply do things like 'Back2" "Buildings2" etc, but know that "Buildings" is the only impassible layer, even if you have a "Buildings2", it will not make those tiles have a movement-blocking effect

[crystal field]

Arrr having so events many events that switch map assets is proving to be a headache. But it's one of the core features of my mod so I shall forge on.

[crystal field]

I fully agree with this and is why I decided on a island

[velvet narwhal]

there's plenty of ways to get to your new areas, spacecore's warp totems (mod), the new minecart feature (vanilla), the... unofficial bus locations? (mod), even an itty bitty TouchAction warp (vanilla)/warp action from an original vanilla map

[latent mauve]

You shouldn't have a \n in your warps in Tiled at all, if you do, you need to remove that character

If you are copy/pasting from some text editors then you might be getting the \n as a hidden/code character that will need to be removed from your warp entry

[slate totem]

Well I figured out which mod was running interference with my mod. Looks like both PolyamorySweet and FreeLove mess up something to do with gifting my custom pendant. Which kinda sucks if you wanted to have a spouse and adopt Leo as a Roommate

[brave fable]

how exactly did you work around this i'm trying to invoke this method:```cs
public static Item TryApplySeasonings(CraftingPage menu, ref Item item, List<KeyValuePair<string, int>> seasoning)

previously this il worked:```cs
CodeInstruction[] call = [
  new(OpCodes.Ldarg_0), // menu: this
  new(OpCodes.Ldloca_S, 1), // item: crafted
  new(OpCodes.Ldloc, 2), // seasoning: seasoning
  new(OpCodes.Call, seasoningMethod)
];

but my updated il doesn't:```cs
FieldInfo crafted = ilOut.FirstOrDefault(ci =>
ci.opcode == OpCodes.Stfld
&& ci.operand is FieldInfo info
&& info.Name == "crafted").operand as FieldInfo;

CodeInstruction[] call = [
new(OpCodes.Ldarg_0), // menu: this
new(OpCodes.Ldflda, crafted), // item: crafted
new(OpCodes.Ldloc, 1), // seasoning: seasoning
new(OpCodes.Call, seasoningMethod)
];

errr wait i think i need to prepend it with ldloc.0

nope still broken nvm im smert and it warks

[late pewter]

Ok so I figured out where the warps are kept. I'm now trying to move the tile properties stopping Livestock and forage from leaving the map, but the boxes aren't napping to the grid, how do I move several Tiledata boxes at once and make them snap to the grid as I move them??

Nevermind, figured it out! Will wait a few more seconds next time before asking questions...

[dusty scarab]

good to hear you figured it out! keep going :D

[late pewter]

Assuming "?" is at the coordinates of Map Property "FarmHouseEntry", is this the correct hitbox of the farmhouse? (And this should remain clear of junk?)

Assuming "?" is at the position of Map Property "GreenhouseLocation", is this the hitbox of the Greenhouse?

For both of these questions, I *think* the answer is yes, if my understanding of the wiki map tutorial is correct, but I've been dead wrong about my assumptions before, so wanted to confirm real quick.

[dusty scarab]

yes, those should be correct for the farmhouse and greenhouse

[late pewter]

Sweet, thanks!

[unique sigil]

correct for both. aside from the FarmhouseEntry position, all the building spawn coordinates are the top leftmost tile

do note that the spouse area is actually a 4x4 area and the coordinate for spouse patio is still the top leftmost tile. the spouse patio you see on finished maps is actually the lower half of the whole spouse area.

[late pewter]

...Hey this Dot shaped paths object doesn't actually spawn anything right? I can use it as a generic visualization marker?

[unique sigil]

they dont. i usually use them for planning paths and crop areas too.

[late pewter]

Noted, thank you!

...Can I locate the mailbox seperately form the farmhouse? What happens if I try to move the farmhouse later? Or does the mailbox always have to be positioned at the second "?"

I notice when I move the farmhouse on a Vanilla map, the Mailbox moves with it.

[unique sigil]

the mailbox coordinate have to be on that right ? tile i think

it will still move alongside the farmhouse

[late pewter]

Figured as much, thank you!

[dusty scarab]

yeah, the mailbox comes attached to the farmhouse

[mighty ginkgo]

i assume you can change the relative position by editing the FarmHouse entry in Data/Buildings if you want? or is it decided by something else

[dusty scarab]

it's an EditMap action, actually. you're editing the coordinates on the FarmMap (whatever your map's name is) for the FarmHouseEntry field (or entry, I can never keep the difference between those two straight)

here's an example from my own farm map :D

[mighty ginkgo]

ah i see. that's simpler

[unique sigil]

huh, you don't add them into map properties?

i usually only do this for warps that have an unlock condition or compat for other mods, otherwise i just put them all into map properties in tiled

[dusty scarab]

I do, but I also have them in my content.json as a backup, because the content.json loads after the tiled map does. it's redundancy for my own peace of mind

[ocean sail]

@dusty scarab You leveled up to Farmer. You're now a prettier shade of blue. Thanks for sticking around!

[dusty scarab]

eeeeeeeey I'm a new shade of blue!

[unique sigil]

yoooo farmer!! now you can be a cheeto!!

oughh my map is finally done. now the annoying part,,, paths layer and map properties,,,

[dusty scarab]

I like sprinkling that stuff around. I'm like the Oprah of trees! this spot gets a tree, this spot gets a tree, this spot gets a tree... look under your Paths layer everyone, you're all getting trees!

[patent lance]

@velvet narwhal: research karaoke (3mo ago)

[merry rampart]

It used to be you could move the mailbox to be separate from the farmhouse but I suppose that changed.

You could also get a mod that makes the mailbox a placeable item. That's what I did

[woeful lintel]

randomly checking my server level for the first time in months

[frigid hollow]

i got this a while back

[frozen elm]

Thanks for letting me know that this is how you check it, I was wondering about that actually

[unique sigil]

getting a couple of weird reports that the newest update to secret grove (where i added assets from my tilesheets) has tilesheet loading issues, so the map won't load at all.

i'm confused because the map loads perfectly fine on my end when i download the zip from nexus and install as usual. i'd appreciate if anyone here can try installing secret grove and check if it's broken as well, because i have no idea what the problem is at this point

fyi: the new tilesheets are embedded in the .tmx and there's a dependency for the tilesheet in the manifest.

[frigid hollow]

the tilesheet has to of course get loaded into Maps through content patcher

[mighty ginkgo]

https://smapi.io/log/b720d0ee817f4152be477b4b8b31d6d8?Levels=trace~debug~info~warn~error~alert~critical (CP) CR Secret Grove Farm loaded map 'assets/Farm_SecretGrove.tmx' with invalid tilesheet path 'spring_CR_outdoor.png'. The tilesheet couldn't be found relative to either map file or the game's content folder. everything default

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.0.8 with SDV 1.6.8 build 24119 on Unix 6.1.0.23, with 4 C# mods and 4 content packs.

[frigid hollow]

does the name of the embedded tilesheet in tiled matter again? i think it does?

[mighty ginkgo]

in this case the tilesheet mod just doesn't seem to be loading that tilesheet. it doesn't appear in the log at least

[velvet narwhal]

if it has the season modifier it will change

[frigid hollow]

huh, the tilesheet mod does have the load for it

[velvet narwhal]

though i don't think the nexus for SVE has the season logic, i have no idea how the customlocations works in parallel to a data/location

[rancid temple]

I believe CustomLocations just create a super basic Data/Locations entry

Would have to pick apart CP to be sure though

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/stable/ContentPatcher/Framework/Locations/CustomLocationManager.cs#L158
Seems so

[velvet narwhal]

oh that 10pm pst content patcher beta update

i can go back to work in beta ig

[calm nebula]

I drove past a Korean karaoke bar yesterday

Here is your research on karaoke

[rancid temple]

Eye witness accounts

[velvet narwhal]

that means i get to research how to create a tile action

[calm nebula]

Easy peezy lemon squeezy

[unique sigil]

ah see, apparently this keeps happening. not to me though. so what do i need to do exactly? the farm cave also uses a tilesheet from daisyniko and it loaded perfectly fine pre-1.1.0, and i did not have to do/add anything extra in the content.json either

[frigid hollow]

it seems the recolor token isn't ready in time for the load

so it doesn't actually load the map

[calm nebula]

https://github.com/atravita-mods/StardewMods/blob/02971ccd5cf7a492b439de6f7625cb5036237500/AtraCore/ModEntry.cs#L128

[unique sigil]

so i have to change something to the tilesheet's content? but i followed another tilesheet's content.json example and, again, there was no problem...

[frigid hollow]

you could give it vanilla as a default value

[velvet narwhal]

i'm pretty sure 70% of my c# "list of resources" is just specific links in your gits

[frigid hollow]

the config has vanilla as default but the dynamic token itself has no default on it

oh wait, for some reason it's defualting to VPR

[unique sigil]

hold on did the config file come with the zip?

[rancid temple]

Whatever the last satisfied condition is for a dynamic token is what will be chosen

[unique sigil]

the dynamic tokens has a HasMod condition for recolors, so it would not load if you don't have the recolor mods

[frigid hollow]

yep, you left the config in

so it explodes if people don't have VPR

[unique sigil]

ah crap it was still there?? i thought i removed it already

[frigid hollow]

bc it tries to load recolor according to the selection, but it can't do it since VPR doesn't also exist

i think you could also leave out the condition entirely on the vanilla part of the dynamic token? doesn't it check the dynamic tokens in order, so it would apply the VPR one on top of the vanilla (?) (not sure though someone more knowledgeable could answer that)

[unique sigil]

ugh no wonder people keep reporting issues when there was no actual issue

then again they probably didn't read the config too even when ive made detailed config instructions on the tilesheet page

[frigid hollow]

yeah for example simple foliage has the dynamic token just load vanilla without conditions, and all the mod-specific options are listed after it

[unique sigil]

there's a manual recolor selection option, so i probably have to leave the When condition in. but idk, i was copying another tilesheet's content haha

[frigid hollow]

mm yeah, i mean as long as no config file for non-vanilla is in the zip it probably works fine out of the box

[unique sigil]

right that's taken care of now. thanks yall

[frigid hollow]

yippee!

no more ominous blank red room!

[velvet narwhal]

i love forgetting my config files in my zips, thankfully my niche audience has the Figure It Out and don't report to me every time a yellow smapi yells at them

[tiny zealot]

i crave reports

[velvet narwhal]

"0/10 mod, couldn't throw my buddy into the volcano"

i now scan every day for a crow

  "Action": "EditData",
  "Target": "Data/Buildings",
  "Fields": {
    "Deluxe Coop": {
      "CustomFields": {
        "Aviroen.AtraAntiCrow": "true"
      }
    }
  }
}```
![SMCKekLmaoDog](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/965981699982901348.webp?size=128 "SMCKekLmaoDog")

[calm nebula]

(atra likes crows and thinks they're smart.)

[velvet narwhal]

i do too, i'll eventually make my own custom building with the crow critters as a throw in

[tiny zealot]

crows are great but ravens are where it's at

[velvet narwhal]

day 7 and still nothing, i think i've finally got it

[tiny zealot]

i'm sure you do, but just making sure you have more than 15 crops outside (crows won't spawn unless you have more than that)

[rancid temple]

Another reason I didn't want to completely abandon all the crow logic, no feedback makes it hard to know if it's working

[velvet narwhal]

oh i just did debug setupbigfarm

i'm sure i can just reroute the logic to a pseudo scarecrow counter to a building, maybe i can throw a sign asset in front of the selected building? but that's "Big Brain Problems ™️ " which i do not have

[unique sigil]

man i wish, but what i want most for people is to report bugs in the bugs tab. i'm not getting notifs from your issues people!!

and id rather not have to be DMd on discord even if i say you can contact me here lmao

[velvet narwhal]

mine are scattered all over the place now, it's either a DM on nexus, a discord message (because i setup a bugreport channel in my own), or the Figure It Out actually make bug reports

[unique sigil]

im starting to have published just enough mods where checking their individual comment sections every day is becoming a hassle

i think i should make a pinned going forward and hope for the best

[rancid temple]

I don't get comments enough for it to be a bother, but I did set up Nexus to show a notification when I have new comments

[velvet narwhal]

i think my favorite is when i get a comment on a bug report and nexus doesn't tell me it's a bug report comment and instead just says, "User commented on this mod" when i know ferdamnsure i removed comments on those mods

[woeful lintel]

How would I go about having config tied to each Furniture Pack? since each Pack can define its own config fields (a bit like CP does), I don't know how I could use something like helper.ReadConfig<PackConfig> since the attributes of PackConfig are completely dependent on a json data file.

[woeful lintel]

What I hate is people just sending a discord friend request with zero message explaining why

[rancid temple]

If I haven't at least talked to a person before I will ignore friend and DM requests

[woeful lintel]

Oh, god, don't get me started on people sending "Hello" as a DM and expecting me to answer

[calm nebula]

Hello!

Are you interested in a land share...okay i can't do this with a straight face

[bronze crystal]

So
I'm not sure this is the right place but I'd like to participate in mods, but only in the art aspect, and I don't know how to go about it? I'd like to make pixel art for mods

[tiny zealot]

my solution is simply to be aloof and unlikeable so nobody tries to DM me

[calm nebula]

Sure! #making-mods-art also too probably

[velvet narwhal]

no you can get 3 doller for pixel

[rancid temple]

3 doller per day

[calm nebula]

Plenty of coders who either want art for their mods or would help you put your art into the game

[bronze crystal]

Okay!

[velvet narwhal]

is currently trying to read through alternative texture's logic of how he deals with configs

[bronze crystal]

Thank you

[rancid temple]

Does AT have separate configs per pack?

[velvet narwhal]

https://github.com/Floogen/AlternativeTextures/tree/development/AlternativeTextures/Examples/[AT] Example Pack/Textures/Craftables/Cask

[woeful lintel]

I've been procrastinating porting Seasonal Japanese Buildings to AT because I don't want to work with it.

[unique sigil]

this is so real i instantly reject any DMs that dont adequately explain why theyre DMing me

[velvet narwhal]

oh wait, isn't it a GMCM handle?

squints that also doesn't sound right

[unique sigil]

ive DMd twice by a person going "hi i like your pfp" and getting sent a friend req and,, yeah nah lmao

bug reports or away you go from my inbox

[rancid temple]

"This could have been an @ on the server" energy

[unique sigil]

might as well send me a "we are reaching out to you about your car's extended warranty" because at least i'll get a laugh out of it instead of being wary

[woeful lintel]

In contrast to that, there's this one user which whom I've had a lot of DM discussion because they are too scared to come here to ask, but they are very nice and sweet, and they reported a ton of bugs (with adequate information)

[velvet narwhal]

the only way you'll get me to visit town square, i get dinged there to immediately close out of it

welp

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/tree/stable/ContentPatcher/Framework/ConfigModels time to dig into the belly of the beast ig

[rancid temple]

CP might not be a great comparison, since it's basically doing its own GMCM stuff

[woeful lintel]

not again...

[velvet narwhal]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/Framework/ConfigFileHandler.cs#L46 maybe?

i'm a strange one and i need to understand the core of something to then understand the rest of it so i'm not useful for like 99% of scenarios

[woeful lintel]

thank got Github can get me the references of ConfigSchemaFieldConfig, I don't have to search for it manually

[unique sigil]

yep and that's the key: adequate information. it's like dealing with spam email, youre unclear/sus, into the trash you go haha

[velvet narwhal]

will we get yet another to use the turing test on, maybe

[woeful lintel]

(constantly holding myself from applying this method to school administration emails because I hate answering those)

After going through some CP code, it looks like there are custom methods to parse, save and load everything, so not helping much the case

I guess I can't use the semi-automated SMAPI config handler

[velvet narwhal]

i assume you don't use the contentpacks helper

[woeful lintel]

IContentPack? Yes I do

[velvet narwhal]

oh-wait yeah it has to actually register

[woeful lintel]

holly shit, there's a Read/WriteJsonFile methods on IContentPack that I never noticed.

What the hell is a TModel tho?

[velvet narwhal]

google says, generic parameter

[woeful lintel]

ok, fair enough, I didn't go even this far, but what restrictions does it have for the parsing to work?

I'll look into it, I have another design question before putting my hands in the beast

[velvet narwhal]

#programmers-off-topic message this is beyond my scope

[woeful lintel]

So here comes my actual question regarding config: I'm trying to lazy load Furniture Packs, so that I don't have to actually load or parse the content.json until I have to fill Data/Furniture, but FF can't tell if a Pack has config to load, save and show in GMCM until the content.json is loaded, so is there an event handler for when the GMCM menu opens so that I can load the packs and register the config pages for the packs?

[velvet narwhal]

https://github.com/spacechase0/StardewValleyMods/tree/develop/GenericModConfigMenu
https://github.com/spacechase0/StardewValleyMods/blob/develop/GenericModConfigMenu/IGenericModConfigMenuApi.cs

i also dig

[woeful lintel]

oh shit, I never looked passed the AddOption functions

my bad

Oh, but there isn't any event handler, it's all just stuff to change the state of the menu, nothing to be notified when it changes...

[velvet narwhal]

i might be getting lost in translation, but initial load of a mod usually doesn't come with the config.json, it gets created with cp, so ig the thing is to do with your mod is to auto-generate that config like how cp/gmcm does?

[calm nebula]

Leroy, you don't necessarily have to like

Register gmcm at game launched

[woeful lintel]

So from what I gather, I would have to at least load the content.json at game startup to parse the config structure, and leave the actual Furniture parsing for later

[calm nebula]

Plenty of my mods either do their registration or part of it at saveloaded

[woeful lintel]

yeah, that's what I'm trying to do, but it would be weird to open the config menu and the pages of the mods you installed are not here

I would be totally fine with registering the packs only when the mod menu is opened (or when I need to parse a pack anyway)

[zenith robin]

This might not be the right place to ask, but how does one add a spoiler tag to information on their nexus page?

[woeful lintel]

I would look up BBCode, that's what Nexus uses

[velvet narwhal]

[spoiler] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBCode#:~:text=BBCode ("Bulletin Board Code",before being translated into HTML.

[blissful panther]

That are (or were?) quirks with formatting inside of spoiler tags though, so be aware of that.

[zenith robin]

Ahh, brackets. everything I saw was saying was to use angle brackets.

[blissful panther]

No angle brackets in BBCode!

[velvet narwhal]

i've only tested with spoilered images and those work good, but i haven't done anything wild like quotes or w/e inside of a spoiler, just know that the stupid preview on nexus won't actually show the spoiler tag and you just have to Trust

[blissful panther]

I just wish they would replace it with a Markdown system...

[calm nebula]

They are planning that

Also apparently upload-from-github is a possibility

[velvet narwhal]

i wonder how that's gonna work if code gets trunicated?

or does it just not care and it looks for the actual modfile things to contemplate

[blissful panther]

I remember they're at least aware of the desire for an upload API.

[blissful panther]

I wonder how it's going to do that...

[calm nebula]

Anyways, hi DH!

[blissful panther]

Hello!

[calm nebula]

Long time no see

[velvet narwhal]

yeah.. we're uh, a .dll thing, so we'd have to effectively make sure a folder or something is just for nexus?

[lucid iron]

maybe if they make github workflow thing

[calm nebula]

I see you have left the leaf and become an apple again

[lucid iron]

nexus i mean

[calm nebula]

Or grab GH releases

[blissful panther]

Honestly, I think I'd prefer just an upload API. That way it could be made to work any which way. But I'll take what I can get.

[calm nebula]

What's an API lol?

(I kid I kid)

[tiny zealot]

god automatic sync with the github would be nice, but i don't actually maintain mine exactly the same so i'd probably have to adjust

[calm nebula]

....why is there a tesla at the gas station

[tiny zealot]

inertia

[velvet narwhal]

depends, my city has those solar panel things next to gas stations for EVs

[lucid iron]

i havent bothered releasing anything on github except as temp file share

[velvet narwhal]

(i took the downtime of content patcher to actually sync up my working folders with my github so )

[woeful lintel]

@calm nebula what do you think about that

[lucid iron]

your furniture packs are not CP/content pipeline right

[tiny zealot]

one nice ("nice") thing about having to do two releases is i can do the nexus one first, then by the time i finish doing the github one, the file has gone through nexus's CDN and has the checkmark so i can post about it without worrying about scaring my dozens of users

[woeful lintel]

FF works independently from CP, but I want moders to be able to patch both packs' textures and data (so basically just passing them through OnAssetRequested) with CP

[lucid iron]

well i suppose u can patch gmcm

https://github.com/focustense/StardewFishingSea/tree/master/FishinC/Integrations/Gmcm

this mod replaces gmcm ui with own ui

you prob dont need to go that far but i dont think gmcm otherwise exposes "on gmcm open"

could also do custom option inside gmcm ofc

[woeful lintel]

Yeah, I don't think I'll go this far

Wait, hold on, how do I handle a Furniture Packs where the config structure gets patched by CP at different time? Do I change the config menu registration/structure to reflect the patch? Or do I just move the config structure to a file that doesn't go through OnAssetRequested to avoid it getting patched?

[lucid iron]

well u set up the asset invalidated stuff right

[woeful lintel]

Thinking about it, I think I can just Unregister the pack from GMCM when its content is invalidated and just run the registration process again

[lucid iron]

so that the cached version of furniture packs are consistent with the content as they have been loaded

[frozen elm]

@woeful lintel this is nitpicky, but I was wondering if there is a way that when you place the furniture, the faded icon that you see in the green square could match the icon rectangle instead of the source rectangle? (sorry for interrupting)

[woeful lintel]

It is possible, but can you explain why you'd want this feature?

[frozen elm]

since I'm making the source rectangle empty so I can draw the texture with an offset using layers

which means that when I place it I can't see what I'm placing

[woeful lintel]

I'm trying to plan how to organize the data structures before doing anything, but yes, I have an OnAssetInvalidated event handler to know what packs to (re)load when any custom Furniture data is requested

[woeful lintel]

oh, right, I don't draw layers on placement

yeah, that makes sense

I could also add an option to draw the layers during furniture placement

[frozen elm]

yeah thats probably even better

[woeful lintel]

The only case when drawing layers during placement is bad is when there are multiple overlapping because the opacity would add-up and it's kinda ugly

[frozen elm]

oh yeah i guess that's true. But if you make it optional then either way is fine I guess

Really looking forward to that new update btw! If you need any help testing, I'm working on this mod right now so I'd be happy to help.

[woeful lintel]

I still have some way to go before starting testing, especially because I have classes now so I actually work on it only on weekends. I'll take note tho, testers are always welcome!

Btw, I might also just add a base layer offset that would completely solve your problem at the root.

[frozen elm]

Ooh that would also be great!

[tiny zealot]

TIL the russian version of the "HATS" banner that hangs at hat mouse's shop was updated in 1.6

[true coyote]

ok so I just loaded in my mod for testing, and looking through CJB, 99% of the icons loaded in "correctly" ie the image changed, however most of them are out of order (wrong icon with wrong item), some are missing. I'm not sure how to remedy this with the new 1.6 modding changes, as I have the items in the same order on the png file as they are in the data json

[rancid temple]

Are you using sprite index correctly? (like reading from top left to right, top to bottom)

[true coyote]

yes

they seem mismatched randomly, not like by any of the adjacent images

and the first like 3-4 seem to be matched correctly

[rancid temple]

!json can we see the data?

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[true coyote]

(also is there a way to further filter cjb, I can type the mod name but I'd like to filter it down further to just like honey or juice etc)

[rancid temple]

Never tried stacking keywords, though I would wager probably not

[true coyote]

https://smapi.io/json/none/8066ee2dd33f46179a4944511a2c23a4

first one

https://smapi.io/json/none/25f92371bcd3435fbdaccab87431370b

second one

(should I validate it a certain way? or is none fine)

[rancid temple]

Huh, what is this for?

[true coyote]

my b

I misunderstood

is this what you need?

[rancid temple]

I need to know what mod this is a content pack for, as it's not one I'm familiar with

Had assumed you were using CP, gotta familiarize myself with the other framework

[true coyote]

Its one I'm making, its an add on pack for https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/23373 to patch in cornucopia's items

sorry, didnt mean to cause confusion

[rancid temple]

No problem lol, just need some time to look over this mods documentation

[true coyote]

first data is for Cornucopia more crops, this one is for More flowers. Take your time, Ive got nothing going on here

[woeful lintel]

I'm starting to wonder if I shouldn't just ditch the idea of a "base layer", and just force modders to define at least one custsom layer (which would be used as a base layer).

[steep frost]

I have this idea for a mod but no real know-how: Non-human farmer mod, it doesn't change the appearance of the farmer or anything, it changes dialogue and reactions of characters to the farmer so they refer to the farmer as if they're a type of friendly humanoid creature

[brittle pasture]

Sounds like https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/26291

[rancid temple]

Itty bitty embed

[brittle pasture]

well not 100% your idea, but the method's the same

basically just a bunch of dialogue replacements

[steep frost]

kind of but it's more like, like imagine how the other characters would react to krobus or like, a monster walking right out of the mines and being friendly

like, the longer the farmer is there the more the dialogue changes and I'm good at making dialogue but the coding know-how is zip

[brittle pasture]

!cp

!contentpatcher

whats the command again fuck

[ocean sail]

Content Patcher (https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/1915) is a mod which loads content packs to change the game's images and data without replacing XNB files. If you want to make mods using Content Patcher, start at https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Content_Patcher.

To use this command, type !cp.

[rancid temple]

Gov being slow today

[brittle pasture]

anyway yeah you can follow that link to learn content patcher's syntax

!unpack

[rancid temple]

You willing to zip up your project and send it? Only other thing I can think to see without actually being able to look at the images is screenshots of your folder structures

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[brittle pasture]

unpacking the game is also recommended so you can see the game's dialogue and know what to patch

[steep frost]

thank you!

I also mentioned the idea here incase anyone else wants to utilize it because I struggle with management because I'm more of an artist-

[frozen elm]

would that cause problems with existing mods though?

[true coyote]

I'm going afk but I'l be around on my phone o7

[woeful lintel]

@agile terrace what is your opinion on this? it would allow customizing the base layer's offset and depth while avoiding a lot of extra fields (I'm planning on keeping the same default value for depth of course), and make parsing cleaner in the code on my side.

[woeful lintel]

the next update is a major update, it will not be compatible with mods that aren't updated anyway

Another advantage is that it will simplify the documentation: I wouldn't have to explain the fields for the base layers separately from the custom layers

[rancid temple]

Are you testing in a minimal mod set up? As far as I can tell, all the sprites are matching for me

[rancid temple]

There are some things I don't seem to be able to get like Ancient Coconut, I'm not really familiar with Cornucopia so I don't actually know what that is

[true coyote]

I think I have 170 going rn lol

Ancient coconut shows an icon for me but marjoram, tarragon and wormwood are missing

In fact wormwood is pulling juice and pickles twice, one missing (my assets) and randomly assigned assets from fancy even though the only other fancy one I'm running is for vanilla

[rancid temple]

Yeah this doesn't seem right lmao

[true coyote]

I yoinked the data file from the original bagi mod I was referencing, and that works so idk why it's all mixed up on mine. Maybe my manifest is messing with it by having a dependency for the main ebagi fancy (not required) in it

Yeah the other one of wormwood's on mine shows the juice as -50 energy lol

I'm in town rn so I can't get a screenshot but some shenanigans are afoot and my smapi log seems fine

[rancid temple]

For the Marjoram, Tarragon and Wormwood you have too many entries in Vegetables and not enough sprites in the sheet

[velvet narwhal]

(side steps in, were you also prefixing addCrows to your building, roku? i'm probably gonna do a harmonyafter annotation )

[rancid temple]

Yeah, I'm making it count the crows it feeds

[rancid temple]

(wormwood should show negative energy, it has a negative edibility)

[true coyote]

I'll double check when I get home. I noticed from the file I pulled from they started with leer_name when it was in both fruits and veg but I saw it more with the peppers than the herbs

[rancid temple]

Yeah I noticed the leer stuff too, no idea what that's about, assuming some kind of translation issue maybe

As for the order issue, still seeming like a conflict issue at this point, I'm checking random things in your images to see if I have anything out of order but so far have been matching

[true coyote]

It's funny cause I don't have an issue with any of those ones AFAIK. But yes I will double check the data file when it return home

I'll load a smapi log for you too for my mods list, see if anything stands out for you

[velvet narwhal]

(leer, from previous iterations, was just "read" iirc in spanish)

[true coyote]

Cause AFAIK my mod should be the only one changing cornucopia artisan sprites

[rancid temple]

Yeah, though it's not in a place where you should be using translations as far as I can tell

So really no idea why it was there, worst case it was probably just not doing anything

Well, other than offsetting the number of sprites you need lol

God, I know bell pepper is fruit, but I hate that

[acoustic summit]

what else would it be? haha

[lucid iron]

vegetables aren't real

[brittle pasture]

vanilla hot pepper is a fruit

[velvet narwhal]

is it a new vegetable? nope just Brassica oleracea

[brittle pasture]

hmm WAG hot pepper ice cream

[tiny zealot]

brassica oleracea mentioned

[velvet narwhal]

listen, i enjoy tajin on fruits as much as the next guy

[rancid temple]

I need my fruits to be sweet and my vegetables to be... not bitter but I dunno, not sweet lmao

[velvet narwhal]

peppers are sweet if you cook them--

[rancid temple]

I guess that's true

I tend to kill their original flavors with other spices lmao

[tiny zealot]

so are carrots but you don't see me calling those fruits /lh

[rancid temple]

Ironically, this jaunt into off topic can be useful here @true coyote all those entries starting with leer are actually fruit anyways so you can just remove them from Vegetables lol

[true coyote]

Yeah I probably will, I also hate that botanically they are fruit but culinary wise they are a vegetable

Wisdom vs knowledge forehead tap

[vernal crest]

Savoury?

[rancid temple]

Yeeesss

[velvet narwhal]

is ichor's next shitpost a, renames everything that's actually a brassica oleracea into brassica oleracea

[latent mauve]

All I need is to find out onions are defined as fruit for me to find out I actually don't like any vegetables

[true coyote]

Also once I get this mod published, how do I acquire thr fancy mod maker role 👀

[brittle pasture]

onions are not fruits?

they're the plant bulb

[true coyote]

They are not, since they are the bulb of a plant and not the fruit part (ie pollinated flower offset)

Squash tho

👀 froot

Strawberries? Not technically a berry

[latent mauve]

(I did not know bellpeppers were fruit, RIP my favorite 'vegetable')

[true coyote]

Bananas? Beery

Berry*

[brittle pasture]

Dm bouncer

[velvet narwhal]

i'm gonna ruin your life

[rancid temple]

🌟 Science is a curse 🌟

[vernal crest]

You message bouncer with a link to your mod to ask for permission to add yourself to the mod author list on the wiki. They tell you if you're allowed to do that, then you edit the wiki to add yourself and then they sprinkle Cheeto dust on you.

[true coyote]

Delicious pea fruits

[true coyote]

Mmm cheeto dust... I hate being on a diet lol

[velvet narwhal]

i want to get hard pinged if they actually do setup a modjam

[vernal crest]

I've never had a cheeto

[rancid temple]

Cheeto's are okay, all chips get stuck in my teeth and I hate that

[vernal crest]

Yeah me too and am not a fan

[velvet narwhal]

the urge to make a junkfood 'food' mod

[vernal crest]

You can set up your notifications for the bulletin board channel to ping you for any message can't you?

[rancid temple]

Special buffs, they give you speed for a few minutes and then reduce your speed for a few minutes after that

[gaunt orbit]

They're extremely delicious for the first few handfuls and then super disgusting after that

[velvet narwhal]

true but i'd get jittery over pings that aren't the modjam

[rancid temple]

Any like flavor coated snack is best had in small quantities

[humble timber]

i like cheetos

i will eat a whoel bag

[calm nebula]

Consider: funions

[rancid temple]

I'll eat too many Takis and then regret my life choices

[calm nebula]

Funyons

[rancid temple]

Funyuns are similarly good in small quantities lol

[velvet narwhal]

off topic, i'm a rye chip fiend

[vernal crest]

Don't you want to know about bulletin board messages anyway? I always do because they're important server information (usually).

[rancid temple]

As if we aren't already off in the deep woods of off-topic

[humble timber]

i just have the bulletin board as the only channel in this server i dont have muted

ez

[lucid iron]

Update that puffer chick mod to produce cheetos instead of eggs

And cheetonaise

[velvet narwhal]

this is still technically mod gen, i am thinking about it (i will not do it)

[vernal crest]

Me, unable to tell someone using a tbin to edit their map in a text editor:

[vernal crest]

I must know what is happening in this channel at all times

[gaunt orbit]

Open it in a hex editor

[lucid iron]

They can just save to tmx right

[rancid temple]

why crow spawn private

[lucid iron]

Unless they r tIDE purist

[velvet narwhal]

wait what?

[gaunt orbit]

That's not a joke btw I actually did that for my greenhouse mod

[rancid temple]

The method and event that spawn crows are private, just means have to remake the functionality or I guess reflection

[lucid iron]

Did you have a good reason

[velvet narwhal]

oh ask pathos?

[gaunt orbit]

Tmx was not cp-supported yet and I needed to make a large number of identical maps where the only difference was the season string in the tilesheet name

[vernal crest]

Or just say "no I don't want to"

[gaunt orbit]

Nowadays I just use tmx and a python script

[lucid iron]

If you want crows to do something besides eat crops then u probably need to make your own crow critter

[rancid temple]

Crows eating crops is a facade

The crop is destroyed and a crow is spawned on the crop spot

[velvet narwhal]

this.spawnCrowEvent.Fire(tile); i like how this is just, "Fire it."

[lucid iron]

Smoke and mirrors huh

[rancid temple]

Vapes and shiny surfaces indeed

[velvet narwhal]

oh no, i'm a crow

[brittle pasture]

RSV has a rare event where it spawns 10000 crows on the summit farm

[lucid iron]

Wait u mean that wasn't a bug

I thought it was shenanigans between rsv and custom bush

[brittle pasture]

... why custom bush specifically

[lucid iron]

I had a vineyard up there

With grape bushes

[vernal crest]

Right, looks like I'm up for the day. What should I do

[velvet narwhal]

what's your list looking like

[true coyote]

hmm ok removing the leer entries has fixed the three herbs not showing, but wormwood still has extra entries, and we're still mismatched

[vernal crest]

Hiria: outfits, dialogue, events, gift tastes, marriage, probably a bunch of other stuff I forget
Map: map
UI Info Suite PR: figure out what lines to edit to make NPCs invisible

[true coyote]

what do I have thats adding wormwood twice...

oh I wonder if its forager

[brittle pasture]

yes it is

[true coyote]

yep it is

I wonder if t hats the conflict

[brittle pasture]

there should be no conflict, they are different items

We're not in JA land anymore

[true coyote]

there is something conflicting somehow that's making my sprites mismatched

[rancid temple]

Well something seems to be causing a sprite shuffle for them because I don't get it when I have minimal mods

[ashen oak]

Q: Looking to make some music tracks and want to keep the vanilla Stardew soundtrack feel. What are some good synths and/or programs for this?

[velvet narwhal]

uif2 can probably wait until after they're done with the gmcm transfer? or maybe just a suggestion
gift tastes will probably be a quick one
map would probably be a full day thing if you want a full farm
i don't know which would be easier for you to write for; the generic dialogue and then into heart events, or vice versa

[ashen oak]

(I've been out of the digital composing game for a looooong time)

[brittle pasture]

if you disable Forager does the issue go away

[true coyote]

the jellies and wine seem to be correct but honey, and vegetable related things are off (pickles and juice)

it does not fix the mix up no.

obv removes the extra entry since they're separate things

[vernal crest]

UI Info: I want to try to do it before they finalise the new version because it'd be incredibly easy for them to integrate a fix for it as long as they know it's something that needs fixing (and want to fix it). So I guess that answers my own question! C# time it is. Thank you for the help

[true coyote]

example of a mixed up sprite, prismatic rose honey showing on winter honey

[lucid iron]

Is this ebagi

[true coyote]

yeah

an add on pack for ebagi fancy icons

for cornucopia

a mouthfull

ok so

the honey are all in order now except these roses (preliminary, gotta check the rest)

[lucid iron]

Might not be thing fixable by you then, though I'm not sure how ebagi handles flavored items

The fear is that they r still use parent sheet index and preserve index

[brittle pasture]

opened your mod files, your 8th to last entry is RoseWinter
your 8th to last sprite is that swirly rainbow honey

so that seems working as intended to me

[true coyote]

so somewhere before that i accidentally duplicated something to push it ahead

who is the culprit...

[brittle pasture]

just edit one of either the json file or the sprite to fix the order

there seems to be no problem with either EBAGI or your mod itself, just the ordering is mixed up

[tiny zealot]

this is the way. rye chip gang

[rancid temple]

I guess that explains why I thought everything matched, technically it does I just didn't know it wasn't the desired images lol

[tiny zealot]

if you want full accuracy, CA used Propellerhead Reason for stardew's music.
i don't know if i'd actually recommend it, per se, but i used Musescore (it's free!) for my mod's music and i think i got good results

[true coyote]

ah found it

the config image i was looking at was in a different order than the data file and i didnt process that when looking between the two

some switcheroos and that should be fine

the pickles and juice though...

[brittle pasture]

probably same issue. Which ones are mixed up

[velvet narwhal]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[velvet narwhal]

assuming it's your own mod, but uh, is this another fiddly with the renovations again

[true coyote]

yep I see the problem

[velvet narwhal]

probably, if you could upload whichever pieces you changed so we can see, i honestly don't know if the cellar gets moved though

[true coyote]

well this just got a lot more complicated

[velvet narwhal]

i'll check this in a bit, pressing bugreport just came in

[true coyote]

i forgot to eat

mod on back burner while i stuff sustinence in my face

[rancid temple]

Oh right, that's why I feel like shit

[unique sigil]

was about to test my map but i forgor i still havent made the quarry map at all,,

it's 1 am and it is Too Late to start a map from scratch

[agile terrace]

@woeful lintel
I mean allowing the base layer to be untethered from the hitbox could be pretty interesting, I don't really know how I'd use that to my advantage but I don't think it would be a Disadvantage? Overall I think right now I'm ambivalent? I mean if I'm going to have to rewrite my stuff one way or the other... If it's something you think you'll wanna do in the future do it now when we're already having to rewrite...

[hasty steppe]

Hey there! I’m newish to modding but wanted to ask how possible something might be before jumping in. ||I’m playing with the new update of SVE and like the idea of the western frontier being a new area unlockable on the frontier farm, but I also prefer playing on smaller farm maps (playing on Aimon’s Small Forest Farm rn and really loving it). Would it be possible to make a personal mod attaching the frontier and all its related quest lines to a different farm map? I know it would require patching any other map but that’s fine.|| Any help is very appreciated 🙂

[vernal crest]

Yeah, that should be possible I think. Does the frontier farm replace a vanilla farm or have they made it an additional one?

[velvet narwhal]

it uses additionalfarms

......i just realized, this code block in frontier farm doesn't... do anything

[true coyote]

heck yeah got it fixed

[sacred rain]

Does anyone know how Stardew Valley validates savefiles? How does it tell apart a corrupted/incorrect savefile from an accurate/valid one? It doesn't show the corrupted savefiles in the load game menu. I've looked at decompiled source code, but nothing points to a validator.

[iron ridge]

if the xml messes up, I assume just catching errors parsing

[sacred rain]

That was my guess too. I suppose that means parsing the entire file?

I was trying to cheap out and only look at specific values in the xml document.

But I guess that's not really feasible

[iron ridge]

try
{
    using FileStream stream = File.OpenRead(pathToFile);
    f = (Farmer)SaveGame.farmerSerializer.Deserialize(stream);
    SaveGame.loadDataToFarmer(f);
    f.slotName = saveName;
    results.Add(f);
}
catch (Exception e)
{
    Game1.log.Error("Exception occurred trying to access file '" + pathToFile + "'", e);
    f?.unload();
}

definitely just seems to catch errors

[sacred rain]

yep, that's it

[late pewter]

Making a Custom Farm Map: Does the Map Property "PetBowlLocation" refer to the "?" or the Bowl itself?

[rancid temple]

Usually the coordinate refers to the top left corner, so the ? here

The pet bowl area includes the weird tiles under it

[late pewter]

Got it, thanks

[tender bloom]

I’m pretty sure it reads the whole dang thing

[pine elbow]

I’m currently working on a mod to add additional weapons to my game, what should I put in the “StockItemCurrency” section?

I’m not entirely sure what it means tbh

[brittle pasture]

Are you using STF? It's basically deprecated in 1.6, unless you're modding 1.5 for some reason

[gilded comet]

figured i should put this here. ever get annoyed with having to write so many SMAPI commands over and over when testing? well, here's ConsoleMacros!

https://github.com/aceynk/ConsoleMacros

[pine elbow]

I was using JA but google kept telling me to use the shop tile framework to make it so a shop sells it

[hallow prism]

google isn't always updated with most recent info

[brittle pasture]

your guide sounds like it was made back in 1.5
In 1.6 land you need neither JA or STF, just good ol content patcher

[pine elbow]

So I could add the new weapons using only content patcher? that’s so annoying, I spent like 3 hours looking through YouTube and google searches lmao

[brittle pasture]

modding went through significant changes in 1.6, and for now the wiki is the most authoritative source of updated info
(that and unpacking the game files)

check out https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Index (particularly Items and Shops)

[vernal crest]

And even the wiki isn't up to date for 1.6 on every page so it's worth keeping the migration page open as well to ensure that any other page you're looking at does have the most recent info https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Migrate_to_Stardew_Valley_1.6

[calm nebula]

Lol it would show invalid files

[sacred rain]

hmm?

[calm nebula]

Here is an intentionally broken 1.5.6 save

It shows up on thr save load menu

[pine elbow]

What program do y’all use for your pixel art?

I see a few on the wiki, but which one is the most simple to use?

[vernal crest]

Most simple is probably going to be something like Piskel or Pixel Studio. Maybe paint.net.

I use Aseprite, Affinity Photo, or Photoshop.

[late pewter]

Question: How do I set in my map so that at night, it uses the glowing lamp, but during the day, the lamp appears off? (Along with corresponding light glow). I figure the glow comes form the light bulb on the paths layer, and the different appearance has to do with the Map Property "DayTiles" and "NightTiles" but the wiki is pretty vague with how to use the property and what all the numbers mean....

I vaguely recall messing with the NightTiles parameter back in 2017 for a now severely out-of-date map I edited a long time ago. That was in 2017 - I don't remember how to do it anymore...

[vernal crest]

DayTiles and NightTiles have 4 arguments per tile they're changing: layer the tile is on, tile coord X, tile coord Y, and tile index (e.g., Front 6 1 1253). Place your tile you want during the daytime on the map itself and set the DayTiles property up to reflect that, then set the NightTiles property to match the layer and X/Y but with the tile index of the night-time tile instead. As for the glow...I use the Light map property but I don't think that has an on/off.

[loud ice]

!commissions

[ocean sail]

If you're looking for people who do mod commissions (either art or code), here's a wiki page with a non-comprehensive list of people who do them: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions

To use this command, type !commissions.

[gilded comet]

i use aseprite! i built it for free on linux

[true coyote]

Now to make a mod image. But first I must retrieve my child from daycare

[late pewter]

It's the 4th number I'm having a hard time understanding For the glowing and not glowing lamp on the mine there, what is their tile index? I think I understand the other 3 numbers well enough, but that 4th one the wiki is too vague on IMO... I recall the light has an on-off? At least i think it did back in 2017? But then I could just be remembering wrong, it was only like 7 YEARS AGO...

OH MY GOD IT'S BEEN 7 YEARS SINCE MY LAST FARM MAP MOD.

OR 6 I FORGET WHEN I RELEASED THE SECOND ONE

[vernal crest]

Looking at the mountain map it appears that it's using the Light map property for the glow as well - if it is on all the time it might just not be very visible during the day? And if you hover over the lantern tile on the map itself while you're on the buildings layer you can see the tile index is 510 - that's the place on the spritesheet that the lantern is found.

[atomic vale]

So what do you use for moding Stardew? (SMAPI)

like coding

[late pewter]

Oh right, the Mountain map! I'll copy the numbers off the mountain.

[vernal crest]

NightTiles has 507 for the tileIndex so if we click on the tileset and go "edit tileset" and then click on the lit lantern on the tilesheet you can see it has the ID 507 which matches the NightTile argument.

[uncut viper]

if you're using code to make a mod for SMAPI alone to load and run you use C#
if you're making a Content Patcher content pack you use json (and misc files for tilesheets and maps and stuff)

[atomic vale]

yea what programe for C#?

(dotnet doesn't open)

[uncut viper]

well, thats up to both personal preference and whats supported on your machine. lot of people use Visual Studio

[atomic vale]

Thx

[brave fable]

pretty much everyone uses visual studio community (2022), some use jetbrains' rider if they have a license

!startmodding lists IDEs i think

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[lucid iron]

any text editor is fine really

[brave fable]

.. for c#?

[vernal crest]

Going to be tricky to build lol

[lucid iron]

yea u can just dotnet build

[brave fable]

wordpad is my IDE.

[lucid iron]

from the cli

so its fine/10

[brave fable]

you have a very, very low baseline for fine lol

(is your name pronounced chewy or shway)

[lucid iron]

how do u get shway

[brave fable]

(or shoe)

[tender bloom]

Probably from the French

I blame them for any weird vowels

[vernal crest]

I would've pronounced it chu-ur (very bad approximation of Chinese e sound)

[lucid iron]

its actually just chu but i got no strong feelings about any particular form

[tender bloom]

Like vinegar goose?

[fathom rapids]

i hear chewy

[lucid iron]

my origin story is that i defeated all the other chu<realnumber> and now there is just me

[vernal crest]

I have no idea what vinegar goose is o_O

[brave fable]

hi elizabeth, how do i transform Game1.windGust into some circular motion for a simple pendulum sort of behaviour

[tender bloom]

Cos and sin

[brave fable]

my beloved circularFromRatio method fails me since my implementation is a screwy version of bush shake code

windgust and globalwind in sdv are real weird, gust occasionally gradually increases from 0 to 5 or 10, then immediately returns to 0

globalwind sits at some value 0/-0.25/-0.5 depending on the season, and increases (negatively) by some amount of the current gust each tick, while decreasing by a constant rate until back at baseline

[tender bloom]

https://www.acs.psu.edu/drussell/Demos/Pendulum/Pendulum.html this might help — it gives a direct equation for theta(t)