making-mods-general

[unique sigil]

i think a vertical map would be better to this. whats an actual hilltop if not with some verticality

and thats an excuse for kisaa to slap on 20 waterfalls in the map. hell yeah

75 x 130 tiles. i hope i do not regret this

[fathom rapids]

Tree Size Framework bigger oaks

[velvet narwhal]

oh speaking of waterfalls, do you happen to have a east/west waterfall link? or have you created one yourself? asking for a friend

[unique sigil]

waterfall link?

[velvet narwhal]

like a nexus tilesheet that has one

[unique sigil]

oh, nope

dont think i could do complex water features for the time being

[velvet narwhal]

[vernal crest]

I looked into drawing it but I couldn't find any pixel art references and I can't draw without them :(

[still mason]

Hey people, I've been playing Stardew Valley with my girlfriend for a while, and we love the game, but my she doesn't speak English that well (we're from the Czech Republic). I was wondering if there's some way to make a custom translation..? I made some translations for some other (but way smaller) games before for this reason and would love to try my shot at this, but I couldn't find the right files, maybe I'm just looking in the wrong place.

[vernal crest]

Yes you can make custom languages

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Custom_languages

[velvet narwhal]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Translations

[vernal crest]

Pretty sure that translations link is for mods, Avi. I thought they were asking about translating the game itself.

Not that they can't also translate mods of course.

[velvet narwhal]

oh i mean if you do have some mods you wanna translate too that works

under the assumption that they've made things available-to-translate

[vernal crest]

@still mason I might be able to help a bit with figuring out the custom language thing (if you do want to translate the game itself) as I've helped someone before with their Latvian translation.

[still mason]

I'm gonna try this for a bit on my own, and maybe get back to you if I'm lost?

[vernal crest]

Sounds good!

[unique sigil]

@velvet narwhal like this?? 👀

if it's this way, i could block off the left half with a boulder

[velvet narwhal]

oh you meant making the entire farm the summit that's pretty good too

[unique sigil]

,,no this is just the top half

[velvet narwhal]

o

[unique sigil]

theres a bottom half haha

[velvet narwhal]

oh i see, you're making this the left yeaaaah i see the vision now

[unique sigil]

rest of the map will be under that

if i divide it this way i dont have to think too hard about geographical logic 😂

and i can still make the lower half very hill-y with waterfalls

[timber plover]

how do i replace this when they have the same id ?

[brave fable]

you might have to redefine the rainsound cue with the 2 sounds you want to keep as well as the 1 sound you want to change

Overriding a cue will reset all values to the ones specified.
most likely meaning you'll reset all filepaths when you override it with your single filepath

[brave dove]

Does anyone have any pointers on how to start tackling the idea of adding a custom menu (I'm thinking something borrowing functionalities from Tailoring and Dye menus)? I'm pretty sure I will need c# for this, but maybe someone has already added one or can suggest a mod example that has it? 🤔

[velvet narwhal]

https://discord.com/channels/137344473976799233/1293051032904925255 it's very much in progress but focus is looking for input

[fossil osprey]

Me want make a cartoon texture pack, but work

[timber plover]

yay Halloween Sounds are now working again 😄 (soem might still be bges but that work for future me )

[timber plover]

i might need to add them to the cue for them then figured ..^^ thanks

[frigid hollow]

why the heck is my animal like. never doing it's second uniqueanimationframe. does it being wider than vanilla break something??

sometimes it'll just flip the first frame and use that instead of actually using the second one

am i crazy or is this supposed to switch the current displayed unique frame when it hits/goes over 500? assuming animal has double unique frames

wait HUH the frame IS switching (according to lookup anything) but visually it's doing NOTHING (on vanilla chicken)

[unique sigil]

finished the sketch at last. damn this terrain is annoying. but that's hilltop for you

[lucid iron]

if only u can jump down ledges in sdv

[unique sigil]

hey at least i'm giving a generous number of minecarts here

[lucid iron]

u know maybe instead of having cart it could just be touch warp

[unique sigil]

that's no fun :)

[lucid iron]

fair enough

[unique sigil]

dont worry every warp is located close by, except the quarry warp which is that top left path

all the warps to bus stop, forest, summit/backwoods, and farm cave are on the right hand side of the map, and you could just walk straight down from the farmhouse

which is nearby the farm totem

oh shit i forgot about spouse area position AGAIN

[royal nimbus]

is this like an easter egg joke? lmao the mayor's shorts in the farmer pants file

[finite ginkgo]

Those are the trimmed lucky purple shorts, tailor the lucky purple shorts with some gold and you can wear them ;p

[royal nimbus]

lol but that sprite doesnt fit in there xD

but yeah good to kno about that item

thats weird the player gets to wear them xD

[acoustic summit]

I guess it is kinda an easter egg in any case haha, I believe that sprite would be the in menu sprite

[unique sigil]

alright guys i have a quick question: does the terrain for this map make sense? except for the little cliff on the right that has the farm cave entry, areas with the grass tiles are on the same elevation and the yellow tiles are hills

[lucid iron]

could you mark where the warps to bus forest & backwoods are

im a bit confused about this part of terrain, but the rest looks good

[unique sigil]

I FORGOT I DELETED THE WATERFALLS

but yeah theres supposed to be waterfalls there

[unique sigil]

red is summit (and backwoods), purple bus stop, orange forest, and blue quarry

[lucid iron]

makes sense to me

oh where is grandpa shrine

[unique sigil]

ffffuck how i did i forget that

[acoustic summit]

Im not sure if this would interrupt things too much, but it could be cool to have the top exit be a down segment in the cliff, like a hanging valley

[sacred rain]

What parameters are guaranteed to be on an XML savefile (I assume it depends on the version?)? has anyone done research on this before?

[unique sigil]

okay i just have to shove it in somewhere

[acoustic summit]

Just cause the top exit might otherwise be slightly higher elevation than the expected for the top path, idk!

[unique sigil]

there is another half to the map. what youre seeing here is the main area, top half has a summit. i cant change it like that bc it wouldnt make sense

[lucid iron]

what do you want out of that

[woeful lintel]

Zelda-ass map (affectionate)

[acoustic summit]

oh thats sick! Yeah it wouldnt make sense then

[unique sigil]

i have no idea what that means (not zelda player lmao) but thanks

[sacred rain]

I'm working on something that deals with savefiles, and my test suite comprises of random savefiles I got off the internet, one of them doesn't seem to have the gameVersion element, so I want to know if the savefile is corrupted, or is something else going on.

[unique sigil]

@acoustic summit this is the top half, if youre interested

[gaunt orbit]

yeah that looks good

[lucid iron]

take a look at Stardew Valley/StardewValley/SaveGame.cs in decompile perhaps

[tiny zealot]

my understanding is that the save file is pretty much a straight dump to XML of the current game state, so anything that is defined in the assorted objects and isn't excluded from serialization by the special attributes is in there. that also means that it will vary by game version, since there's no formal schema or anything

definitely check your decompile(s)

[gaunt orbit]

only thing is this spot might be tricky to tile

[unique sigil]

eh it's a rough sketch anyways. the final product always changes very slightly

noticed that too but i wont overcorrect bc i wouldnt get things done that way 😂

[gaunt orbit]

yeah that makes sense

I tend to make maps in a more procedural and less iterative way

[unique sigil]

boy this is going to be a doozy to properly draw

ah i have space on the summit. grandpa shrine could go there

[sacred rain]

aha, that makes sense. That also means I have somehow get older Stardew Valley versions (to decompile and check)?

Steam doesn't have them I think

[gaunt orbit]

you can use depotdownloader

[tiny zealot]

you can do some steam depotdownloader thing to get old versions

[gaunt orbit]

but the game has save migration

[tiny zealot]

unless you're doing some archaeological support i would probably not bother supporting saves older than 1.5.6

and that one is readily available on the legacy branch

[gaunt orbit]

I think I had a save that I played from like 1.2 all the way up through 1.5

if I can find it I might even try running it on 1.6

[lucid iron]

Wonder if there's platform differences

[sacred rain]

I will have to think about that. It's a savefile editor essentially.

[gaunt orbit]

IIRC there are other options for older formats

people have made save editors in the past but as far as I know all the ones that exist are wildly outdated

[lucid iron]

We are 1.6 all platform soon anyhow

[tiny zealot]

in that case i would just support 1.6 only. doesn't seem worth the headache to me for the legacy branch

[lucid iron]

Not a problem if you only support latest

[sacred rain]

yeah i see, makes sense to not support ancient versions then

I reckon 1.5.6 will be good enough as far as legacy support goes then

[frigid hollow]

no gameVersion is like. a 1.0 or something thing

i have a pre-1.1 save file and it doesnt have gameversion i believe

[brisk kraken]

I have a question. If you have a character mod and a mod that changes some map layouts, what will happen to the character schedule? I assume it can walk with no problems but if it has to stop in a changed layout it will be weird. How could you fix this? More precisely, im thinking about Stardew Valley Expanded and his changes to the desert/mountain

[sacred rain]

I suppose the savefile is just corrupted then

[frigid hollow]

hmm, 1.2 also doesn't have it

[tiny zealot]

for a situation like this, you have to alter the NPC's schedule when the mod fucking with the maps (SVE) is installed

schedules only define stopping points, and pathfinding to those points is automatic, so it's usually not a major edit or anything. you just change the coordinates they're supposed to go to

[brisk kraken]

Hmm, doing that, would make the mod only work with stardew expanded right?

[latent mauve]

You could make a when condition so it only changes when SVE is found?

[tiny zealot]

use When conditions and the HasMod token: https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/tokens.md

[brisk kraken]

Thanks!

[brittle ledge]

Assuming the endpoint is not reachable in vanilla, yes. Depending on where you're going and the changes, you could get away with the same endpoint.

[brisk kraken]

Eeehhh kinda, I wanted to use the fishing animation in the desert lake, but I remembered that, well, expanded moves the lake.

Other schedules I think are alright so is a minimum work

[brittle ledge]

Ah yeah, iirc they're not in the same area at all In that case, yeah, just conditionally patch that schedule.

[patent lance]

@astral prism: actually try that thing (17h ago)

[hollow pendant]

hehehehehehehehehehehehehe

[spice inlet]

For anyone interested I uploaded 1.6.9 Beta versions for CFL, UB and PIF.
This also means no more updates to those mods until 1.6.9 comes out

[lucid iron]

is there a version of "Painting of the Season" that goes on the floor?

[spice inlet]

like a carpet?

[lucid iron]

yea

[spice inlet]

sounds pretty cool tbh, but no

[lucid iron]

i ask cus i didnt figure out how to make a wall that was wall for furniture purposes, but not actually let you wallpaper

[gilded comet]

when is 1.6.9 out again

[lucid iron]

so in the end i just made a floor ladder in case ppl wanted to pif out of my pif room that has 0 decoratable walls

[spice inlet]

Kana actually did that with this part of her latest room:
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/28346

I'll keep the carpet idea in mind though, I am sure it'll find plenty of use

[lucid iron]

Nov 4th

[iron ridge]

does anyone know where the onscreen keyboard's code is?

[faint ingot]

any reason why when using advancedMove in events, sometimes they get stuck in the walking animation? seems to happen most often with farmer. I know I can manually stop the animation just seeing if there's something else I'm missing that causes this behavior...

[hallow prism]

hum, i remember someone explaining why it happens

i think it's a question of not having a pause at the end sometimes causing this?

[faint ingot]

I'll try to add a small pause at the end of each and see if that makes a difference, thanks

that didn't seem to make a difference but thank you anyway : )

[vernal crest]

You don't have loop accidentally set to true, do you?

[faint ingot]

I don't

this is the snippet, farmer doesn't stop walking: ```globalFade/viewport -1000 -1000/stopMusic/pause 1000/stopAdvancedMoves/stopAnimation farmer/
changeToTemporaryMap sdvhead_LawAndOrderSV_mines1 false/
warp Shannon 1000 1000/warp Abigail 1000 1000/warp Clint 1000 1000/
warp Lewis 1000 1000/warp Harvey 1000 1000/warp Jodi 1000 1000/warp Marlon 1000 1000/
warp Russell 10 6/warp Kent 9 5/warp farmer 11 5/
faceDirection Russell 2/faceDirection Kent 2/faceDirection farmer 2/
viewport 10 5 true/
viewport move 0 1 2400/
playMusic Cavern/pause 500/

advancedMove Russell false 0 1 -2 0 0 1/pause 100/
advancedMove Kent false -2 0 0 1 -1 0/pause 100/
advancedMove farmer false 3 0 0 1/pause 100/
pause 800/emote Russell 40/
pause 800/emote Kent 40/
pause 800/emote farmer 40/
pause 1600/
advancedMove Russell false 0 2 1 0 0 1/pause 100/
pause 3200/emote Russell 40/```

I mean his position stops in the correct spot, but the animation continues

[vernal crest]

Is that snippet with the pause that you added that Lumi suggested?

[faint ingot]

yes that's when I added the pause 100's

[vernal crest]

I would have assumed they meant the advancedMove pause, not the separate command

[faint ingot]

oh I see

OK it works just fine now, my mistake, thank you both!!

[vernal crest]

No problem. Good thing you posted your snippet!

[acoustic summit]

I have no idea what part of my mod isnt compatabile with 1.6.9, this is tragic

[hallow prism]

yeah i meant in the advancedmove but it was a bit unclear

did you test it?

is it a C# mod?

[acoustic summit]

C#, yeah - just says its no longer compatabile 😉

not wink, cry

LOL

[lucid iron]

did you build it

[hallow prism]

i don't do C# but usually the trace has info about that

[faint ingot]

I tested it, it's just a CP mod mostly

[hallow prism]

!software @frozen field

[ocean sail]

Here's a list of software for pixel art and JSON text editors we recommend: https://gist.github.com/ishanjalan/c8efb21afa21f74a052293176db107f7

For making SMAPI (C#) mods, see the Requirements section here for which IDE to install https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#Get_started.

To use this command, type !software.

[faint ingot]

Oh you were talking to Nature lols sorry

[frozen field]

Hi Lumi (again) lol

[acoustic summit]

I recompiled, if thats what you mean

[hallow prism]

i usually use notepad++ for the json and aseprite for the art

(i don't do C# personally)

[lucid iron]

so if you had a function signature that changed, then build would give warnings

[frozen field]

gotcha. was curious bc im looking at making a vs code extension for modders

[lucid iron]

however, if you have harmony stuff, especially transpilers

then you won't know it explod until in game

[acoustic summit]

I have some postfixes but no transpilers

[lucid iron]

make sure u r building against 1.6.9 beta too

the fact that smapi caught things being incompatible means it's prob more of the former

[acoustic summit]

Caught it in the trace, thankyou lumina 🙂 And checked it in project, the mod is pretty chunky so It can be hard to find which class is having any errors

It was to do with trinkets for some reason

But the 1.6.9 migration info has almost nothing on trinket changes

[lucid iron]

trinkets got their own namespace in 1.6.9

[acoustic summit]

Well thatll do it

Yep

Feels like something that should be on the migration page

[lucid iron]

how clunky is the mod though

usually build is like

5-10s for me

[tardy adder]

hewo, has anyone used item extention's behaviour extensions before?

[acoustic summit]

I dont work in vs, I recompile the mod which means it skips over checking if there are errors in any class unless Im recompiling that specific class

[hallow prism]

the one like "eating but use a different message"?

[lucid iron]

i mean i also just dotnet build

[acoustic summit]

So once the trace told me it was in a class I can open that class and itll tell me "Hey woah woah woah - you cant resave this - there are errors"

[hallow prism]

oh i see! i am pretty unfamiliar with what it would cover

[lucid iron]

but it should error out for something like namespace changed i find

The type or namespace name 'TrinketEffect' could not be found (are you missing a using directive or an assembly reference?)

like this

[acoustic summit]

Yep! Thats the same error I found when I recompiled that class

It just wont give me the errors if I work anywhere else in the project or save the project without editing that class

[heady crest]

guys can someone help me with whatever this is? im trying to make a mod (first time) and i thought making Content Patcher mods would mean I didnt had to edit the xnb files

[lucid iron]

im not trying to accuse you of workflow crimes or anything, just really confused about how you are building stuff

[tardy adder]

the ones that use lightdata, and onequip, onuse, on purchase, etc. parameters >< idk the documentation puts it under behaviour extensions

[acoustic summit]

No its okay haha, Im using an app called DNSpy, which I do think is likely a workflow crime

[lucid iron]

did you have a Load

oh yea thats a decompiler

[acoustic summit]

yep!

[tender bloom]

the error might say XNB but what it means is that you're missing a file

[lucid iron]

on windows u can get the usual vs tool chain stuff without needing actual VS

[acoustic summit]

I find it really easy to work with though - loves it

[tender bloom]

you do NOT need to edit the xnbs

check your map name

check that it's loaded to Maps

[acoustic summit]

Besides the occasial this kind of issue

haha

[tender bloom]

!json post a json file if you still can't figure it out

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[lucid iron]

i am on linux so i just use this stuff https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/core/tools/

are you able to get a working mod out of dnspy compile?

[heady crest]

isnt this all i need for just the location?

[heady crest]

oh aight

[tender bloom]

You probably aren't loading the TMX to the right place

[hallow prism]

i don't believe i used them

[tender bloom]

The error has a very long tmx name, while the file you have has a very short name, which can be done but smells like a place where mistakes can sneak in

[heady crest]

it says no errors found

[tender bloom]

yeah the website checks for json formatting errors

it doesn't check for "you told the game the map is named X but actually it's named Y"

[acoustic summit]

Oh yep for sure 🙂 Ive worked on a few now - all you need is a base to work from

[heady crest]

oh

rightmakes sense

[acoustic summit]

Eg. An empty dll with assembly attributes basically

[tender bloom]

full log please too, I can't tell what's wrong at a glance

[vernal crest]

You have a typo in your MapPath where you've added a second "M" in front of "Maxine"

[lucid iron]

these words terrorfy me but whatever floats your boat i suppose

[tender bloom]

Ah yep Aba got it

[heady crest]

oh

[tender bloom]

That would be the problem

[vernal crest]

I have powerful typo-spotting eyes 👁️

[heady crest]

🤦

let me try again lmao

[vernal crest]

Which is about all they are good for seeing lol

[vernal crest]

Also to explain the xnb thing: the game works in xnb but Content Patcher lets us work with other file formats because it does the work of turning them into xnb for us.

[heady crest]

always a different erros i really dk what im doing

[tender bloom]

ah where's the command

!tilesheetclimbing

[ocean sail]

When creating or editing maps in Tiled, one common error is tilesheet climbing, marked by red text containing "invalid tilesheet path '../../..'. This is caused by SMAPI not being able to find the tilesheets needed by the map file. To prevent this error, make sure that you have a copy of all necessary tilesheets in the folder containing your WIP tmx file. Copies of vanilla tilesheets can later be deleted, but must be present while working on your map.

If you get this error with a completed map, an easy way to fix it is to open your tmx file in VS Code or a similar text editor, find all of the places with <image source=, and remove the filepaths to so that only the tilesheet names remain. For example, if the code says <image source="Content (unpacked)/Maps/townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>, change it to just <image source="townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>.

To use this command, type !tilesheetclimbing.

[tender bloom]

new errors means progress!

now that the game is actually seeing the map, now it's starting to make noises about the actual content of the map

[heady crest]

thats a way of looking at it

[heady crest]

so i have to put the sheet on the assets folder with the tmx?

[frigid hollow]

isn't it {{ModID}} not {{modID}}

or does that not matter

[vernal crest]

Doesn't matter, or it would still be getting the error it had before.

[tender bloom]

CP sometimes lets you get away with capitalization stuff

[solemn sand]

what software can open xnb files?

[tender bloom]

This is not something you should assume is ok in general but Pathos likes to make things noob friendly

!unpack

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[vernal crest]

You can open the .tmx file in a text editor to remove the filepath. Try following the second paragraph of Governor's message.

[tender bloom]

My understanding is the XNBs are packed files, sort of like zips. You can unpack them to look at what's inside.

[frigid hollow]

oh yeah i see the tile path issue there now

[vernal crest]

From the wiki: "You can't edit an . xnb file itself, you need to edit the file that's inside it. Pulling out that inner file is called unpacking, and putting it back is called packing."

So yeah, Elizabeth, looks like you are right.

[heady crest]

so from this to that?

[vernal crest]

Yup that's right. Make sure you check all the sources in the file.

[heady crest]

right

theres only 2 and the first one is already like that

[vernal crest]

Hopefully you're good to go then!

(And if that means on to finding the next error, that's normal and still progress)

[heady crest]

hopefully

yall made me optimistic

if i were to figure it out on my own id prolly have given up by now

well it kinda worked

but only one layer of the map is visible lol

no thats 2 actually

but still

kind of not what i had in mind

[gilded comet]

doesn't content patcher just edit the data when it's requested? i don't think it changes the actual xnb files

[lucid iron]

did you start from a vanilla map?

the naming scheme is pretty strict

[heady crest]

what does that mean

[lucid iron]

for instance, make a copy of something like the railroad

and draw over it in tiled, maybe resize it too

[heady crest]

you mean the layers?

[lucid iron]

yea thats no good

[tender bloom]

Anything other than Front, Paths, Buildings is never going to show up

[hallow prism]

yeah arbitrary names can't work

[tardy adder]

thanky >< I am trying to see for more examples, since some in the examples in docu don't appear

[heady crest]

:(

[hallow prism]

and Back

[heady crest]

oh so thats a thing

[hallow prism]

just name them back

[tender bloom]

You can add layers above/below the game's named layers like Buildings1

[hallow prism]

back+1

and so on

[tender bloom]

let me look for the wiki info on this

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps#Basic_concepts

this part of the wiki lists the allowed names

and then below the table there's a description of how to do extra layers

Keep in mind that some of the named layers are special

Buildings is the layer that governs collisions, and extra layers in front/behind won't count for collisions

Paths is special and will not be drawn

[vernal crest]

Probably? Though I assume the game (or SMAPI) must think there's an xnb involved if the SMAPI error is that the xnb wasn't found. I try not to get into the weeds of the exact way stuff like that works when I am talking to very new people because they end up more confused.

But if there is a more accurate newbie-friendly way to say things like that I am all ears.

[tender bloom]

I think it's just the way the error is formatted

[vernal crest]

Does Back+1 work (with the + symbol)? I've only done Back1 and that's all I've seen vanilla do as well.

[tender bloom]

Back1 not Back+1

but there is Back-1

probably because it gets trimmed and parsed as an int

if I had to guess

[heady crest]

wait but can i do Back2 and so on? or just 1 for each

[vernal crest]

Here is an example of one of my map's layers (which works)

[tender bloom]

You can do and so forth, yes

[lucid iron]

i double checked and the error says xnb because it's thrown by monogame/xna

[heady crest]

that answers my question

[tender bloom]

Back1, Back2, Back3 etc etc

At a certain point it does probably get to be a hassle in some ways

I'm very boring so I have just done the usual sneaky tricks from before this feature existed

[vernal crest]

It'd be surprising if you needed more than 2 extra layers for any main layer

[tender bloom]

ohh interesting

[vernal crest]

Cool so the plus symbol does work

[tender bloom]

I wonder if int parsing does accept "+1"

[hallow prism]

(i think the + was accepted to mirror the -)

[lucid iron]

b4 1.6 did people just have Passable T everywhere

[tender bloom]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/api/system.int32.parse?view=net-8.0 I think it's probably as a result of this

[lucid iron]

when they want to draw soemthing over back

but not make it buildings

[tender bloom]

the example there gives a bunch of different formats accepted/not accepted

// The example displays the following output:
//       +13230 --> 13230
//       -0 --> 0
//       1,390,146: Bad Format
//       $190,235,421,127: Bad Format
//       0xFA1B: Bad Format
//       163042 --> 163042
//       -10 --> -10
//       007 --> 7
//       2147483647 --> 2147483647
//       2147483648: Overflow
//       16e07: Bad Format
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[heady crest]

also i got a question kind of unrelated, if I use only vanilla tilesheet, if i use a mod like daisy's recolor will it be applied? or do i also have to make a version for that? also kind of the same question for seasons, so I have to remake the map for each season???

[tender bloom]

I recommend not trying to name your layers Back-2147483649 😂

[lucid iron]

you can do your Tiled work in the unpacked map folder

[tender bloom]

if you use the vanilla tilesheets and don't include them recolors automatically apply

[lucid iron]

or copy the vanilla sheets into a wip folder

[tender bloom]

the game automatically does the seaon switching

[hallow prism]

the recolors are applied whether you want it or not based on the user of the mod mods

[vernal crest]

You don't have to make a recolour version if you use vanilla tilesheets - nor do you need to make a version for each season if you use tilesheets that begin with "spring" (or one of the other seasons).

[lucid iron]

do not include any sheets in actual mod

[hallow prism]

extra tilesheets need to be added however

[heady crest]

also is this better?

[lucid iron]

yea, unless it's a sheet from another mod

[tender bloom]

yep!

load it up and see!

[lucid iron]

hm i think the Buildings1 object layer doesnt do anything right

props have to go on Buildings no numbers

[heady crest]

im yet to figure out what object layers do

[vernal crest]

It's fine to use Buildings with numbers (I do)

[tender bloom]

They're for tile properties

[vernal crest]

You just can't expect collision from them

[heady crest]

buildings with no number is just the mountain thing

[tender bloom]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps#Known_tile_properties here's some tile properties, for example

[lucid iron]

not the tile layers i mean the object layers

[heady crest]

and buildings1 is the stuff

[hallow prism]

the pink one will be useless

[tender bloom]

but yes, the pink ones don't do anything if they're aren't the normal set

[lucid iron]

This only affects layer rendering. Tile properties must still be set on the original layers.

[hallow prism]

but it will also be harmless

[vernal crest]

Sorry I didn't see the "object" in your initial message >_<

It wasn't a typo so I couldn't see it

[heady crest]

im back to this 😮‍💨

oh right

i resaved the tmx and it added the ../../.,/ thing again

[vernal crest]

You need to have the tilesheets inside the folder while you're editing the map to avoid the tilesheet climbing

[heady crest]

but i think i do

[hallow prism]

verify the path used

[heady crest]

yes its right there

[heady crest]

huh

[hallow prism]

sometimes tiled grab them from elsewhere

[heady crest]

how do i do that

[vernal crest]

You don't have the daisyniko one though

[hallow prism]

which is sneaky

it's a recolor however?

[heady crest]

oh

[heady crest]

no theres a vanilla colored one in the folder

[vernal crest]

Remember last time you only had to fix the source for the daisyniko tilesheet, not the vanilla one?

[hallow prism]

ok

[heady crest]

ye

[hallow prism]

you open the tilesheet in tiled and verify its path

[heady crest]

ok now its there

but hwo do i change the path on tiled

do i just reload it?

[vernal crest]

By editing it in your text editor like you did before

[heady crest]

oh

right

[vernal crest]

You don't need a path when it's in the same folder

[heady crest]

oh NICE

nothing has collision but i assume thats smth i gotta do on tiled right

gotta figure that out too

[hallow prism]

congrats

[heady crest]

wait nvm the mountain has collision

[latent mauve]

the Buildings layer is where you'll be able to stop players from walking through things. 😛

[heady crest]

not the fences tho

[heady crest]

thank uuu

not on buildings1?

im so confused with this collision honestly

[vernal crest]

Correct, not on buildings1 or any other number

Only buildings

[latent mauve]

Yeah, just the base building layer

Buildings# is meant for drawing assets over the base Buildings layer, but they won't have collision or accept TileData

[hallow prism]

(buildings#)

[latent mauve]

(thanks)

[heady crest]

is tthat also the case for alwaysfront?

[hallow prism]

(i forgot the s a couple of time and wondered why my layers didn't work 😄 )

[heady crest]

i have these on always front and they also have collision

the tunnel things

[latent mauve]

I believe the Buildings layer is the only one with collision, but someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

[heady crest]

m

[latent mauve]

There may be something there on the Buildings layer that's hidden because AlwaysFront is drawn over it

Try turning off that layer to check

[heady crest]

oh nvm theres also these bottom tiles

they imght be whats giving collision

[latent mauve]

Yeah, that's the typical use case. 😄

[lucid iron]

you can use data layers to check collision in game

[vernal crest]

If you use water tiles on the back layer you might find that some of them have collision too. That's a tile property though that is specifically applied to those water tiles, not a layer thing. The only layer to have collision is buildings.

[tender bloom]

there's also invisible tiles sometimes

[heady crest]

so ill just be able to walk on water

[tender bloom]

sneaky ones hiding

[heady crest]

how do i make a layer more transparent? i changed the opacity of the water on tiled but here its fully opaque

[vernal crest]

Yes. So if you place water tiles on the back layer make sure you have your shoreline tiles on the buildings layer to stop people walking out into water.

[tender bloom]

is this real moving water?

if it's using the game's water overlay, that has some wonkiness you can't change

[heady crest]

huh

[tender bloom]

well, not without C# or a dedicated framework, which I don't know offhand about

there's water (what you see in tiled) and then there's water (the shimmers on top the game adds based on tile properties)

[heady crest]

can i use invisible tiles on buildings to add collision to another layers?

[tender bloom]

Yes

The game itself does that sometimes

[solemn sand]

Where are the sell price modifiers of kegs/preserve jars/etc written?

[tender bloom]

machine data probably

wait do you mean selling a keg?

[solemn sand]

I'm blind then

[tender bloom]

or selling keg produce?

[solemn sand]

sell price of wine

[hallow prism]

on the wiki because the machine stuff use C# for calculation

[hallow prism]

you didn't use the right tile

you used (likely old unused) tiles that aren't the one the game use for classic water

vanilla use some tiles then have the extra overlay on top

[solemn sand]

I want to change them tho

It's possible to do with just content patcher, right?

[hallow prism]

i believe so but then you'll erase the old method

or you can see if you can add a modifier to the price

depending of what you need (but untested, not sure if it works with the C# part)

[tender bloom]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Common_data_field_types#Quantity_modifiers

[heady crest]

i used the ones that i found on the sheet

[hallow prism]

yes

i know which ones you used

(it's why i spoke about which ones you used)

[solemn sand]

this seems a bit much for me, thank you though

[heady crest]

there aint any others tho 😭

so i just keep the water like that then

[hallow prism]

there is, look at any vanilla map with water

[brittle pasture]

You don't need C#, you can apply the price modifiers to the final product using machine data
See PriceModifiers in https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Machines

And also the link Elizabeth posted above

[hallow prism]

(i just wonder if the C# will allow for that to be applied after it calculated stuff)

(to my knowledge it wasn't tested)

[brittle pasture]

So for example Wine is 3x fruit price by default. If you want it to be 4x you need to multiply it by 1.3333333
(or to be cleaner divide by 3 and multiple by 4)

price modifiers are applied after the item query iirc

[hallow prism]

good then 🙂

[ornate trellis]

man....where was that image again from the tiled terrain set thingie for the foliage, i somehow lost my copy

[latent mauve]

if you scroll down a bit, the vanilla maps use these water tiles on the town and forest maps

It's on the same tileset as the ones you are using, but these are the ones actually in use on the vanilla maps.

[heady crest]

i thought those were just the bottom of the ocean or smth

[heady crest]

that would appear below these

[latent mauve]

If you open an unpacked vanilla map, the tiles I am showing are the ones used in the rivers. 🙂

[vernal crest]

Strongly recommend using vanilla maps as a reference

[latent mauve]

The animation is drawn and overlayed by the game itself afterwards

[vernal crest]

Trying to make a fully functioning map without vanilla maps as references is just super-hard mode

[tender bloom]

My maps are all a heavily frankenstein mush of like 3 different vanilla maps

[heady crest]

i completely overlooked the fact that i can open vanilla game maps

[finite ginkgo]

(oops, I've always been doing it in super-hard mode apparently )

[ornate trellis]

oh my god i found the image after rummaging through this channel for like 20 minutes lmao

[heady crest]

whats the map for the trainstation named? i cant find it on the unpacked folder

[latent mauve]

Railroad

[heady crest]

ofcvours

thanks

[heady crest]

still a few fixes, but it mostly works

thanks guys !

are these debris? (on vanilla map)

[finite ginkgo]

No, the one with a 3 is a pine tree iirc (it's at least a tree, the type im not sure of), and the other one is a medium bush (the 2 wide one)

[heady crest]

oh

right

[finite ginkgo]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps#Paths_layer

[heady crest]

another question, how do i add collision out of boundaries?

[heady crest]

thanks

i have like 10 of those stardew wiki pages open

[finite ginkgo]

Yeah, it happens, i constantly have multiple tabs on the sdv wiki when modding

[lucid iron]

im ok with looking at unpack for most data

but modding:maps is essential

[vernal crest]

Add tiles to the buildings layer around the edges of your maps

[heady crest]

you dont mean here right? its red so i cant place that

[lucid iron]

well normally a edge like that reads as "go to different area" to players

[heady crest]

yeah right

[lucid iron]

you would want to expand it and fill in some more fences there

[heady crest]

so ill cover that up with leaves

extend this

[gaunt orbit]

Make sure to put stuff on the buildings layer to prevent anything from escaping the map

[hallow prism]

usually i put the green square in building then the other as fluff in always front

[finite ginkgo]

I should, in theory, only need the Event Data wiki page when making events (I can never remember most event commands)

And yet I always end up with like 10 different tabs, one is on the event commands, the other is on the same page but just for the emote numbers, probably one opened to the audio wiki page for playSound/playMusic, tiled open to 5 different maps, aseprite open with the portraits and sprites of like everyone in the event for dialogue and animate/showFrame

[hallow prism]

me : "i have emily in this event, would she say "hi" or "hello" more? let's look at dialogue and mail files too to be sure

[vernal crest]

You got answers already but to be clear about what I was saying: no, I meant on the tile above that - all around the inside edge of the map. But Chue's advice about making sure it's not appearing to players like you can go down there is important.

[tender bloom]

@outer glacier

dunno what this is but it's definitely scam

was pinging bouncer the thing to do again?

[gilded comet]

yeah i reported

[hallow prism]

me seeing the first : "this sounds suspicious"
me seeing the second : "yeah it definitively is"

[tender bloom]

I was like "35% off what?"

[hallow prism]

your bank account

[tender bloom]

noooo

[heady crest]

also something i was meant to ask earlier, i put the map ingame and noticed all tiles are making stone (ithink) sounds when i walk on them, how do i fix that?

[tender bloom]

it a tilesheet property

[heady crest]

i did change the tile property of almost every single one of the used tiles

[hallow prism]

by not having the stone terrain property

[tender bloom]

this should be on Back layer

[heady crest]

a few

[heady crest]

it is, this is how the map looks with back disabled

[finite ginkgo]

Is your map set as outdoors?

[heady crest]

now it is

does that has anything to do with it

i just changed it like right before you asked

[finite ginkgo]

Yes, the step sounds only work on outdoors maps

[heady crest]

oh

alright that answers it then

[heady crest]

isthere smth wrong with the line? the warp to the railroad is working but not the way back

[rancid temple]

Is that the name of the location?

[vernal crest]

No it's not

[rancid temple]

!json generally, sharing snippets instead of the whole thing is less useful for debugging

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[vernal crest]

You need to have your {{ModID}}_ bit in front

[latent mauve]

You want to use the exact ID you entered in for Data/Locations, so you likely need... yeah, what aba said

[heady crest]

this?

[vernal crest]

Yes

[rancid temple]

Pretty sure tokens aren't case sensitive anyway

[latent mauve]

Unless you're on Linux

_>

[rancid temple]

Well, if you're on Linux that's your own fault :P

[latent mauve]

Your poor endusers xD

[rancid temple]

Well, I always assume case sensitivity lmao

Even when I know something isn't, I'll still do it

[lucid iron]

I think tokens r fine

It's when u have to hit file system like path

[heady crest]

i just think it looks prettier with lowercase m lol

also do i just copy this property for each warp tile? or is there a easier way to do this

[gaunt orbit]

No easier way

[heady crest]

ofc

[gaunt orbit]

That's why most maps only have 2-3 tile exits

You CAN click the three dots button to get a bigger text box though

[heady crest]

can i do it like this?

[gaunt orbit]

Yes

The line breaks won't stay in when you save it though

(tmx is xml and xml has no concept of line endings so tiled replaces them with spaces)

[heady crest]

huh

but it'll still work right? or its gonna break?

[gaunt orbit]

It'll work

[heady crest]

thats all i need

[gaunt orbit]

Just make sure to double check that there's not two spaces in a row anywhere bc that will break

(unless that got fixed in 1.6?)

[lucid iron]

You could use content patcher add warp if you want, even on the custom map

[gaunt orbit]

Oh yeah I forgot about that

[vernal crest]

Hasn't the chat lately been that EditMap is performance costly and to avoid it?

Or have I just misinterpreted it all?

[tender bloom]

The add warps thing should be fine I thought

Especially unconditional stuff gets shoved under the cover of night

Reloading entire maps in the middle of the day maybe more costly? But rule of thumb is typically blame C# for performance unless you’re doing something dumb

(Color-shifting all of Cursors with ImagEd after config changes did have a noticeable one-time impact, for example, but it was perhaps a little bit dumb of a thing to do)

[latent mauve]

Definitely don't ever do an EditMap OnTimeChange then?

[tender bloom]

Maybe if you have to

[rancid temple]

I think EditMap is just more costly than other types of patches, it's not going to be like ever noticeable

[lucid iron]

tbh i was thinking more

do it in cp while testing

cus it's easier to change

once it's all good u can put it into tmx

[tender bloom]

I always always prefer the warps in CP because the tmx format is gross

[rancid temple]

Fractions of milliseconds and all that

[lucid iron]

this is workflow cruff do what you want

[velvet narwhal]

(unfortunately i am too lazy to do the warps in cp for farm maps because i am too lazy to deal with it)

actual custom locations? great, clean, works nicely

[rancid temple]

I prefer doing all my warps in CP because I can use tokens there

[velvet narwhal]

though, if editmap only goes in once and that's upon location created, and it never gets called again unless idk something else happens then maybe i might move everything into editmap

[lucid iron]

well doing tile props in edit map kinda succ

cus u can only do it 1 tile at a tile

[velvet narwhal]

true, i've just kinda gotten used to it

[tender bloom]

I prefer to copy paste in boxes I can see

In tiled the boxes hide

[heady crest]

i didnt even do nothing........god i hate it here

[tender bloom]

I can’t tell from the screenshot but I suspect a formatting issue

[vernal crest]

!log

[ocean sail]

Important note: Your computer username may appear in the log. If your username is your full name, please be aware of this before uploading it.

Please share your SMAPI log file. To do so:

1. Open this page: smapi.io/log.
2. Follow the instructions at the top of the page to upload the log file. (Don't copy & paste from the console window!)
3. After uploading, it will show a green box with a URL to share. Post that URL here.

Please do it even if you don't see any errors. This has useful info like what mods and versions you have, what the mods are doing, etc. If the issue didn’t occur in your last session, please load the game to the point where the issue occurs, then upload the log.

To use this command, type !log.

[lucid iron]

wow json assets

[prime flicker]

anyone knows where to get the love of cooking v1.6 ?

[tender bloom]

Better to ask in #modded-stardew probably?

It’s either available on nexus or unavailable is my guess

[lucid iron]

btw if you arent doing it right now, you can do patch reload <modid>

[tender bloom]

Stardew is a 2D game

[prime flicker]

ow ok i tought i read somewhere that the test alpha was available on the discord

[vernal crest]

Actually blueberry has posted her latest version in here...somewhere

[lucid iron]

you wanna implement stardew3d raytracing first?

[latent mauve]

Jason Turan, It is, but it's in #modded-stardew

[tender bloom]

Ah ok! I haven’t been stalking blueberry enough clearly

[velvet narwhal]

where's the cursed stardew3d gif

[tender bloom]

Casey has it I’m sure

[velvet narwhal]

is that another bot

[tender bloom]

Maybe?

It’s either a very lost person

Or a bot

[uncut viper]

i assume so bc they sent me a weird random DM request too

[tender bloom]

Ooh random DMs get blocked

[uncut viper]

which is why i came in here to check if anyone else did just in time to see that lmao

[tender bloom]

That’s my policy if it’s bots

[velvet narwhal]

that got an immediate report from me lmao

[tender bloom]

If it’s a person I don’t know they get a public ping

[vernal crest]

Aww I am not important enough for a random DM

[latent mauve]

I contacted Bouncer

[tender bloom]

I think accepting comms is allowed here but 3D models comms are…so not Stardew

[vernal crest]

Okay she might have a more recent version than this but if she does I can't find it: #modded-stardew message

[uncut viper]

surprisingly they didnt send the same spiel to me in DMs but they did hope that my day is "proceeding as planned"

[lucid iron]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3i4JeKNEYo

searching up this chat to find this exploded my discord

[velvet narwhal]

considering the display name is timothy but the actual account name is 'vicky' uh, safe to assume it's some kinda bot

[tender bloom]

It also read like some chatgpt bland nonsense

[lucid iron]

there was those cool glass obelisks though

i think they are rendered 3d models

[tender bloom]

Like actual comms people are like “hey I made X Y and Z, peep them here to see what my style is”

[rancid temple]

Oh snap, Button is purple

[tender bloom]

Some nonsense about collaboration and vision triggers my bullshit detector

Purple!

I wish I was purple

[vernal crest]

Ya it is marketing nonsense-speak

[uncut viper]

why am i the only person who knows this is still blue

[heady crest]

https://smapi.io/log/2927b263c0bc4d7daf8d5beb4fa62271

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.0.8 with SDV 1.6.8 build 24119 on Microsoft Windows 10 Home, with 19 C# mods and 7 content packs.

[velvet narwhal]

no i agreed with you, it's blue

[vernal crest]

Because you are clearly colourblind, Button

[uncut viper]

oh i missed that ok thank u avi

[velvet narwhal]

i checked the hex code it's blue

[tender bloom]

Look at the little rock

[latent mauve]

It's a fancier blue

[tender bloom]

The rock next to your name

It’s a purple rock

[uncut viper]

yeah but its not the same colour as the rock

[tender bloom]

Ergo the junimos think you’re purple

[latent mauve]

It's blurple

[vernal crest]

No but it is still purple

[tender bloom]

If they picked a purple rock

[lucid iron]

blurple

[uncut viper]

it was smack dab in the middle of the blue section of the rgb line

[velvet narwhal]

petition to put it in the actual ourple hex

[tender bloom]

RGB doesn’t have P though

Purple is a mix

[uncut viper]

the gradient from red to red, whatever its called

[tender bloom]

Oh HSV

hue

[uncut viper]

the colour wheel but a rectangle

yes that

art is not my passion can you tell

[tender bloom]

Art is not my passion but it is a fun hobby

[tender bloom]

That looks purple to me

[rancid temple]

The color polygon

[lucid iron]

need to sample of the rock's ourples

[lucid iron]

button's color is uh

cornflower blue in css names?

[tender bloom]

There’s a super fine line between what I perceive as blue vs purple

[latent mauve]

Optical illusion shenanigans because of the Discord background color

[tender bloom]

It’s hard to eyeball in the hue bar

[lucid iron]

Medium Slate Blue

so yea blue

[tender bloom]

Even when I full screen the images I see purple

[vernal crest]

Yup I am still only seeing purple

I wonder if it would look more blue against white

[tender bloom]

We gots purple eyes

[uncut viper]

maybe i should believe no one not even myself until everyone in this channel calibrates their monitor colours

[velvet narwhal]

color theory is fun and engaging

[tender bloom]

I’m on my phone

Idk that that can be calibrated

[lucid iron]

https://html-color.codes/color-names/medium-slate-blue

[uncut viper]

i actually dont know either

[latent mauve]

LOL My antivirus blocked that site, said it's compromised

[uncut viper]

im gonna release a recolour mod to change the.... whatever the fuck rock this is to blue

[velvet narwhal]

is that an amethyst?

[lucid iron]

well u can just google the name and hex

[tender bloom]

Fairy rock

Not amethyst

[next plaza]

Yeah, too bad they haven't update the channel / github in a while 😔

[rancid temple]

The hex I grabbed looks purple in Affinity, but blue on every hex lookup website lmao

The names also aren't just one solid color lol

[lucid iron]

the css color is more about what browsers will render

although idk if thats a real limit in modern web

[faint ingot]

I'm never letting myself write an event this long again!! 20+ characters, 5 maps, 3 music changes... and I'm barely halfway done

[rancid temple]

Sounds long, is it even gonna work in MP?

[faint ingot]

oh no what is MP??

[uncut viper]

multiplayer

[rancid temple]

Multiplayer

Where time doesn't pause unless you use a mod

[lucid iron]

what if you just make a passive festival

[faint ingot]

oh let me tell you I have NO IDEA

[uncut viper]

where time does not stop

[lucid iron]

5 maps

[faint ingot]

I haven't ever played multiplayer and haven't tested any part of my mod for it even once. So that will be a huge mess

[rancid temple]

For an event mod, timing is going to be the biggest issue for MP

I don't know what happens if the day ends in the middle of an event going lol

[zenith robin]

Idk about an event, but if a player is in a cutscene (heart event) when the day ends, the cutscene continues to play until it is over and then the player passes out. I haven't tried any mods that add cutscenes that are not heart events, so I don't know if they work differently or not.

[rancid temple]

I believe that is typically what is meant by an event

So the other players connected are just stuck on the end day screen or something?

[zenith robin]

yes

[rancid temple]

Lol oof

[vernal crest]

Yes, cutscenes are events

[velvet narwhal]

my singular character expansions are anti-mp sorry

[vernal crest]

Except for grandpa's intro I guess

[rancid temple]

It's a weird distinction, because cutscenes I usually think of as the intro and that's actually a minigame

But that comes with the familiarity of what the base code is like

[vernal crest]

Yeah lol

I dislike it when people refer to festivals as events

Because that's just...so confusing

I mean I understand it

But game code wise, no

[rancid temple]

Lmao, fun with word meanings

[calm nebula]

Grandpa's intro is a minigame

[vernal crest]

Yes I know Rokugin just said :P

[rancid temple]

I think from now on, if I make any AT packs, I'm just gonna be okay with the index names

I've got 4 helper scripts to create these manual variants and this is still taking an eternity

342 dog variants

[faint ingot]

5 maps because it starts in the tavern and it's discovered someone is lost in the mines, so the other 4 are mine maps with 2 search parties

[rancid temple]

This makes me want to learn python, could probably make something way more efficient for this process lol

[lucid iron]

oh i thought it was like

5 new custom locations or something

roku cant u just do it in C#

not as a smapi mod just a C# console program

[rancid temple]

Oh I guess, I've never done that either

Only really used C# in Unity and SDV

[lucid iron]

doing it there means u get to use newtonsoft.json if u want, for parity

[rose forge]

finally did my first map mod ;; im so nervous

[velvet narwhal]

...why do you have 342 dog variants

[rancid temple]

It's a personal conversion of Elle's Cuter Dogs

[vernal crest]

I'm sorry I took so long to respond! I didn't see your message and because you replied to Governor (a bot) instead of me, I didn't get a ping. This log you gave me is not the same one that you took a screenshot of. Did you restart the game but not load a save?

[calm nebula]

Super easy

Although I think unity breaks people

[rancid temple]

I definitely think Unity has handicapped me to using C#

So many things normally handled for me that I really don't know where to start with

[rose forge]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/28462

thank u so much i uploaded my mod, but animals still stack on each other, not as bad as before though!

[calm nebula]

I'm not a person who thinks the way someone starts programming breaks them for life

But also like, I started in vba

So I would be so damaged if that was the case

[lucid iron]

hm did you put only 1 tile prop per pen?

[rose forge]

there's only 12 animals in the barn, so i put 1 tile per pen and that didn't work

so i tried 2 and it didnt change anything

there's 12 stables

[lucid iron]

interest, i'll test with your mod and see about fix

[rose forge]

okay, thank you!

i hope it works lolol

i never done map mods before

[lucid iron]

collision shenanigans probably

[rose forge]

if peta says they need more space maybe i have to make the pens bigger

[lucid iron]

manifest error

"UpdateKeys": [ "Nexus:"28462" ],

to

"UpdateKeys": [ "Nexus:28462" ],

[rose forge]

agh

on it

[calm nebula]

It's a rhubarb!

[brave fable]

colour is more than just hue push the lightness and saturation around with hue r255 g255 b0 and you'll get anything from yellow to green to brown to white, but nobody says those are all yellow

you're purple and you'd better get used to it 😌

[rose forge]

updated sorry

[calm nebula]

You're purple

[brave fable]

i'm not used to it 😌

[calm nebula]

Lol

I'm orange and not used to it

[lucid iron]

you have to put the tiles on the grid

game doesn't read these half tile props

[rose forge]

ohh

im sorry

i will fix it

[lucid iron]

it helps to turn of the snap to grid feature

[heady crest]

huh

[lucid iron]

but hm, i think the spot logic is not quite right either

[heady crest]

i dont get it

[vernal crest]

What part don't you get?

[heady crest]

"Did you restart the game but not load a save?"

[rose forge]

omg the snap to grid i did not know i could do that

holy shit this is a huge difference

[heady crest]

is there something wrong with this content file? when i disable the edit map part it works but iof i add t it doesnt load the mod

[vernal crest]

Yes, your log is just from the main menu. THere's no evidence that you loaded a save file and there's no errors in it.

Yet you showed a screenshot of errors in your SMAPI window.

[heady crest]

oh

right

i prolly did that

[rancid temple]

I thought default Tiled behavior was snap to grid lol

[rose forge]

omggg

it works

!!!

[lucid iron]

do u want my version of barn3 as example

i did remove all the npc barrier props cus it was hard to see stuff

[rose forge]

yes pls i will take a look, i am putting everything on grid rn

[rose forge]

thank you im gonna test it now with all barn types

[vernal crest]

It looks okay to me. When you say it "doesn't load the mod" do you mean it actually doesn't load the mod at all, or that it gives you the error about not being able to create the location?

[lucid iron]

u can do this with large amounts of tiles that should have the same props btw

[heady crest]

yeah the error from the screenshot

[lucid iron]

then u only gotta setup one of these

debug setupbigfarm my beloved

[vernal crest]

Then please restart the game, play until you get that error, and then upload a log with the error so I can see the entire log.

[lucid iron]

maybe i should do a save where thats what u start with

[calm nebula]

Fish ponds

[lucid iron]

fish dimension

[calm nebula]

Debug setupfishpondfarm

Is best

[lucid iron]

yes

i didnt know fish pond fish had shadows util then

[heady crest]

ive started the game 3 times and none of them showed the error again

[vernal crest]

You mean you have successfully warped from the railroad to your custom map 3 times?

[heady crest]

yep

with no clip cuz idk how to edit the railroad area and make a proper entrance yet

[vernal crest]

Maybe the first time you'd forgotten to save your file after fixing something on it

[heady crest]

probably lol

why is the objects grid offset

is it supposed to be like that

kind of annoying

[brittle pasture]

springobjects? It's not?

[zenith robin]

Where would one go to find how to make custom buildings? I can't seem to find anything on specifically making buildings with Content Patcher, so I am unsure as to the fields to use.

[brittle pasture]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Blueprint_data

[zenith robin]

ty

I assume I still make the building with Content Patcher though, right?

[heady crest]

guys when theres a dialogue with the player alone, is it refered as "you" or "me/i"? like "You ate an apple" or "I ate an apple"

[brittle pasture]

Yes

[vernal crest]

A quick look through StringsFromMaps says "you"

[latent mauve]

It's "you"

Non-speech dialogue is always narrator-style

[heady crest]

thank yous

[vernal crest]

Also wow I have never read most of these strings

[heady crest]

lol

[latent mauve]

I've gone through most of the dialogue at least twice by now with my in progress NPC overhaul mod

[vernal crest]

Tia said something about using map strings for important character development that you don't want the player to miss and I was like "uhhh I never read map strings"

[velvet narwhal]

[vernal crest]

So much movement and clicking for so little payoff

[velvet narwhal]

my map strings are 65 keys of books i've raccoon stashed over the years

[rancid temple]

I always forget map strings is even a thing lmao

[calm nebula]

vs update

oh god this is slow

[velvet narwhal]

i didn't even read the changelog for vs

[vernal crest]

I am learning so many new things about vanilla NPCs

I've never even seen Kent's note to Jodi

[velvet narwhal]

i like the immersion of map strings cause it's just, "yeah i left this out and you get a glimpse of my life that doesn't involve me talking"

[tiny zealot]

there are a few "you do X" lines in StringsFromMaps, and none of the "I did Y" variety, but personally i much prefer the ones that are purely descriptive

[vernal crest]

I like the idea of them for that reason but I get bored of finding and clicking on them

[velvet narwhal]

me, with like 16 bookshelves that have a rotating randomizer of their titles: "yeah, these are all actual books and some of them are recommendations, the others are just my personal life in the form of school books i was forced to buy"

[tiny zealot]

"You rifle through Clint's personal effects." 😩
"There's a bunch of carpentry magazines." 😌

[lucid iron]

cant believe clint was the one commissioning all those romancable robin mods

[velvet narwhal]

god when i was looking for roku's "make robin anywhere" mod and i stupidly just put "robin" never again

[tiny zealot]

... those aren't from the same entry, they're just examples

[rose forge]

the robin mods arent as bad as the caroline mods where she "acts like an older sister" romance

and immersive where you watch pierre get his heart broken

and swoop in

[vernal crest]

Wow I can't believe Harvey is advertising Pravoloxinone

"In extremely rare cases (1 in 500), test subjects experienced complete disintegration of one or more bones."

"JojaMart.4": "Taco sauce for babies",

[tiny zealot]

the jojamart product strings are hilarious and i love them

"JojaMart.76": "Blue Alien ENERGY... Get LAUNCHED", my beloved

[tender bloom]

maybe they weren't using those bones, like one of the small ones hiding somewhere

[rose forge]

i dont know why i cant replicate what yours does this is how mine is set up

and they all spawn in like this

is it the fences?

[lucid iron]

possibly, the animals are checked for collision

i know when i put tile too close to bowl the animal dont like it

[rose forge]

hmm maybe i place the bowl as a front tile instead of building and see if it works lol

err

ill remove it first

and see if its the problem

[lucid iron]

yea maybe

i suppose i could just ignore it and let map makers deal with animal in wall oops

[rose forge]

dammit peta

let me have small pens for my animals

[lucid iron]

[rose forge]

ahahah what the hell

now they're ALLL there

[calm nebula]

they want friends.

[lucid iron]

hug box

maybe instead of accepting T i could accept a height and width

[latent mauve]

So, I finally got my Night version of the map to properly load, but the transition is... jarring, to say the least. Is there a way to imitate a fade for a tile change through CP?

Or do I just need to only update it OnLocationChange to avoid it feeling so abrupt?

[teal bridge]

Help me with phrasing here... I'm trying to write my docs, how would you guys describe to a normie in plain English how the SpriteText looks compared to the other fonts?

[rancid temple]

Which one is the sprite font?

[teal bridge]

I meant SpriteText, I cannot stop getting those two mixed up.

[tiny zealot]

yeah which one is that lmao. could you describe it for us?

[teal bridge]

It's the one that normally appears inside "scrolls" (also a ridiculously overloaded term but I'll assume you know what I'm talking about there).

[tiny zealot]

oh, ok. i'd probably go with that then, or something like it. if you're able to show a screenshot, you could say "it's this one"

[velvet narwhal]

stardew font

[rancid temple]

I didn't know there was other kinds of text other than the small font text

[tiny zealot]

failing that, i'd describe it based on where it's used instead of trying to describe its appearance

[teal bridge]

There are four Stardew Fonts, so calling it Stardew Font definitely won't clarify.

(I'm including the tinyFont which is somehow larger than the smallFont, no idea what it's used for)

[velvet narwhal]

[lucid iron]

@rose forge ok so when you want a animal thats 2x2 to go somewhere, the tiledata needs to go to top left

like this basically

(the stick was me marking where fences go

[rose forge]

nods nods i got it

wanted to show you the coops work great

[lucid iron]

chiqn

[rose forge]

imprisoned chiggin....

[lucid iron]

that said u may need to do something about the produce areas

or just tell ppl to spawn autograbbers lol

[rose forge]

uhh can I do like a no spawn barrier I think?

they never spawn oddly for me

[lucid iron]

yea maybe, i forgor what tile prop that was

[rose forge]

did you need to update your mod first? cause i try this and they are still in that one corner

[lucid iron]

hm i didnt do anything different besides rebuilding in debug

oh i removed the bucket too

made sure they had clear 2x2 basically

[rose forge]

yah I did too

fences are giving them 2x2

[lucid iron]

well i guess you can try this build

the code is the same though..

can you try on a new farm just to make sure

[rose forge]

ye ill try my test save

[lucid iron]

debug setupbigfarm will give u some coop & barn full of animals

[rose forge]

ooh

thank you will try

[rose forge]

the code did not give me any buildings just a bunch of crops and objects

maybe i did something wrong

i did it again and it worked nvm

yay its working now

not sure if it was the 1.0.0 build or new save

i will check with my other save now

its working now, i think it was the build

thank you so much for the help!

[lucid iron]

well ig i can upload it again how odd

[rose forge]

can I ask a very noobish question how can I make it so my mod will not run without yours?

[gaunt orbit]

in the Dependencies section of your manifest, add an entry with a UniqueId that's the same as the main UniqueId in the manifest of the mod you want to require

like this:

"Dependencies": [
  {
    "UniqueId": "spacechase0.SpaceCore"
  }
]

[lucid iron]

Oh you know maybe it's gates

I put only fence when I test but gate would impact the collision

[rose forge]

i tested on my main with the gates and its working fine still

[rose forge]

thank you so much sorry i am so noob lol

[gaunt orbit]

everyone has to start somewhere!

[upper rune]

is there something different about how trellis crops count days in phase? I keep trying to mess with it but whatever I do it's always showing the final regrow sprite as the harvest sprite and then when i harvest it turns invisible. i know its still there because its a trellis and it won't let me walk there

[formal radish]

Hiii I hope this is where I ask quetion regarding mods. I used to use the Ui Info Suite mod but I recently was redoing all my mods to update everything and it isn't working. I was just wanting to know how I should fix this and if anyone else is having problems with it as well?

[uncut viper]

(actually you want #1272025932932055121 !)

[formal radish]

thank you :D sorry

[upper rune]

check this link if you have the most up to date version

https://github.com/Annosz/UIInfoSuite2/releases

[formal radish]

thank youu

[upper rune]

np

[zenith robin]

How would I go about changing the tile that you are placed on when entering a building?

[faint ingot]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps#Warps_.26_map_positions

[zenith robin]

I have been reading that, but I can't seem to get it to work. I can change the warp locations from map to map, but not upon entering a building. I'll try some more though.

[faint ingot]

Is it a vanilla building or a custom one you are adding?

[zenith robin]

vanilla

[faint ingot]

If you you have unpacked the game files, open the map for the location you're warping FROM, then see if there's a map property called lockeddoorwarp or something like that

this is an example from the mod I'm working on but it should be similar I think.

[zenith robin]

Okay, I'll look. Thank you.

[faint ingot]

good luck if you still have trouble come back and maybe somebody competent will be around instead of just me : )

[upper rune]

Why is my trellis crop not following the proper days in phase and turning invisible after harvest?

what can i check in the code

[lucid iron]

could you show us your sprites

[lucid iron]

add another one, there should be 8

[upper rune]

is that a minimum requirement for all trellis crops?

[lucid iron]

its for regrowable crops

the last one is after you harvest for first time

[upper rune]

ah, ok. guess i lucked into doing the correct number with my other two regrowables

[lucid iron]

ContentUnpacked/TileSheets/crops.png

check against vanilla crops

[zenith robin]

Is there a way to change the tile that you warp to when entering a farm building such as the barn?

[lucid iron]

im glad you asked https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/28423

map property mushymato.MMAP_BuildingEntry x y

[latent mauve]

Does anyone know offhand how many unwalkable tiles I need on the edges of my map to avoid the black outside from showing when the farmer walks around?

[lucid iron]

that would depend on screen size

[velvet narwhal]

that changes depending on resolution but i tend to keep like, a 10 tile border from my edges

[latent mauve]

this is what I'm trying to fix

[velvet narwhal]

you'd probably have to do filler yeah i'd just take that as ref of how many tiles you'd need

is there a map property to offset the viewport until the map is centered?

[zenith robin]

could you not just make the map stop scrolling when you get so far from the edge?

[latent mauve]

All I saw was one to make the viewport follow the player or not, but it seems to follow the player regardless of the setting there.

[lucid iron]

is your location outdoors

[latent mauve]

Yes

[frozen field]

so I fixed a bug in a mod and I know that the modder is still active but idk if they're looking at all at this very popular mod they have...

[spice inlet]

iirc the busstop does something similar since 1.6 using a map property, so you might want to take a look at that

[latent mauve]

oh good call, there's a property not listed on the wiki in the BusStop map: ViewportClamp

[latent mauve]

ViewportClamp has resolved it nicely!

[brave fable]

now add it to the wiki for future generations 😌

[latent mauve]

If I knew enough about how it actually worked rather than just guessing, I would xD

[brave fable]

feel free to leave a TODO or some short description about where it appears as a hint, it's better than not knowing it exists right?

[velvet narwhal]

"clamps viewport to map, TODO: explain better"

[rancid temple]

I'll add it if you don't want to

[heady crest]

WHY DOES THIS KEEPs HAPENNIG I DIDNT DO ANYTHING

it was workingso fine right now

[brave fable]

null reference in updateDoors

[heady crest]

what does that mean

[brave fable]

check your map properties for double-spaces, leading and trailing spaces, newlines, and other problems

[frozen field]

still better than the time I left a comment in my code that I had to revisit two semesters later, and all I wrote was "Description: not needed, you know exactly what this method does"

spoiler: I absolutely did not know

[velvet narwhal]

my comments are verbose, so i can't relate

[rancid temple]

My comments are pretty trash lol

I try to make up for that by making my naming descriptive

[frozen field]

every so often, at work, I have to translate some comments from german

and all it ends up saying is "Todo: idk ask Bob"

[latent mauve]

please do, the wiki editing scares me

[brave fable]

i run into the occasional TODO: find out what this code does on my own code

knowledge lost to time

[latent mauve]

Screenshot in the making-mods-art channel if anyone's curious as to how it worked out with ViewportClamp 😄