making-mods-general

[uncut viper]

i forgive you i think

[vernal crest]

I wanted that thread power lol

[glad zenith]

yay aba is o-rage

[lucid iron]

now u match icon

[glad zenith]

i 2 will be orage soon

[lucid iron]

hm i am struggle to access the movenext method

this one

call instance bool valuetype [System.Collections]System.Collections.Generic.List`1/Enumerator<class [StardewValley.GameData]StardewValley.GameData.Machines.MachineOutputTriggerRule>::MoveNext()

i am try this which seems close but not quite

AccessTools.EnumeratorMoveNext(AccessTools.Method(typeof(List<MachineOutputTriggerRule>), nameof(List<MachineOutputTriggerRule>.GetEnumerator)))

nvm i had unrelated error

[silver pelican]

say, if i plan to create a shops adjacent to each other , where it can be accessed via the bus (prompt: go to XYZ custom place), is CP just the framework i need? ive decided the items to sell will be using CP instead of json.

I gues the closest I can describe thisi s like the garden village mod.

[rancid temple]

CP is json

[lucid iron]

what do you mean using cp instead of json?

instead of json assets?

[rancid temple]

Or do you mean JA?

CP is good enough to make custom shops

[glad zenith]

isnt ja like dead

[tiny zealot]

CP is enough for the shops and the items. i think you still need a framework (Bus Locations might be its name?) to have a selectable bus destination

[rancid temple]

Not necessarily, just not really needed anymore

If anything, I imagine Casey would probably rather spend time on her new content engine than adding features to JA at this point

[tiny zealot]

minecarts i'm pretty sure you can do with just content patcher, but the bus i think is still hardcoded

[rancid temple]

Yeah, though there is a mod for that

[tiny zealot]

like rokugin said, JA is just keeping the lights on for old mods. other than that it isn't useful anymore

[teal bridge]

You finished your NPC?

[rancid temple]

Bus Locations has an unofficial update, not sure why it's even listed as unofficial if it's still uploaded on Nexus, but maybe it's fine, I certainly haven't looked at the permissions on the original

[buoyant apex]

Yes it's just for personal use. I'd love to make a patch. But... I've barely an idea what I'm doing.

Is there any attribution I should do?

[lucid iron]

why is carp surprise a chili item

[rancid temple]

It's a surprise

[brave fable]

because it's surprising 🎉

[lucid iron]

the way i picked contaxt tag lead to some interesting results

like dinosaur egg for any egg

and pufferfish for any fish, as it should be

[vernal crest]

Hahahahahahaha no xD I made an alternate portrait mod for TDIT (Pau did the artwork) https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/27730

[lucid iron]

what is your plan with hiria

[teal bridge]

Oh ok. Well that's good too.

[lucid iron]

do you have a mvp in mind or just going by vibes

[vernal crest]

MVP? Most valuable player?

[teal bridge]

Minimum Viable Product

[rancid temple]

I feel like all my mods are slowly being sacrificed to ItemStockInformation, I guess I should probably figure out why this is dying for so many different mods
[game] An error occurred in the base update loop: Failed loading type 'StardewValley.ItemStockInformation': TypeLoadException: Could not load type 'StardewValley.ItemStockInformation' from assembly 'MailServicesMod, Version=1.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=null' due to value type mismatch.

[vernal crest]

Ah I see. I have a vibes-based MVP lol

[lucid iron]

[teal bridge]

But also that's totally corpspeak and I almost wish I didn't know it.

[lucid iron]

yea it is quite different with creative pursuits

[uncut viper]

constructors are now patchable

[lucid iron]

eh i think mvp is more useful concept than agile at least

[vernal crest]

I have a base level of finished that I'm aiming for with stretch goals (the stretch being my motivation, not money lol)

[teal bridge]

yea it is quite different with creative pursuits

It is. Like, if I'm working on a track, there's no "MVP", it's done whenever I can't stand to listen to it anymore.

[uncut viper]

if its just for personal use and only you are ever going to use it then you can do whatever you want with the files

[silver pelican]

slr, yes i meant JA my bad. I'm avoiding JA as much as possible :v

[gilded comet]

oooh did harmony update?

[lucid iron]

you can do your items in content patcher

[silver pelican]

I see. Will CP and Bus Loc do it?

[uncut viper]

nope! this is for my update to BETAS that will allow you to write harmony patches with CP

you can already patch constructors with harmony!

[lucid iron]

no button is giving nuclear warhead (harmony) to small children (who make content patcher mods)

[uncut viper]

its fun!

[gilded comet]

oh that's so cool!?

i figured you could patch constructors but i misinterpreted and doubted myself 😭

[uncut viper]

i wouldve let you run simple C# code from a CP defined harmony patch too buuuut i didnt feel like packaging another DLL with my mod

[lucid iron]

wait what r u doing in constructor then

[vernal crest]

Should do, yup.

[uncut viper]

and i gave up trying to write my own parser

[lucid iron]

just listening for it to exist?

[uncut viper]

yeah basically

it has theoretical uses

[lucid iron]

shenanigans

[uncut viper]

for testing i patched the LetterViewerMenu constructor for example so it runs an action every time i open a letter

[lucid iron]

say u r doing this in a way that only 1 actual harmony patch happens for X number of cp mods right

[uncut viper]

yeah all the patches are loaded and put into a list and each patch is written into one Harmony patch

[teal bridge]

Will you make this your mod logo?

[uncut viper]

(if one patch fails the others are still loaded in)

its being added to BETAS! which has a logo!

or well, a header

[lucid iron]

how terror

[teal bridge]

(it's a footgun. nobody got it, sigh.)

[uncut viper]

the main things missing from this feature are a) bool prefixes and 2) patch priority
i originally had 2 implemented for priority between patches that my mod loads, but then realized thats basically worthless bc it doesnt translate to priority overall between all mods
and A isnt implemented bc i dont want to allow it

[silver pelican]

thank you so much!

[uncut viper]

(i did not get it. sorry! i just thought it was another joke abt irresponsibly handling a dangerous weapon)

[teal bridge]

Well I suppose it is. But too meta.

It's alright, I'm used to jokes backfiring (heh).

I found a better one.

[lucid iron]

say does StardewUI.Grid support borders of some kind

[teal bridge]

(that's... probably not real. but perfect!)

[lucid iron]

the css style of borders where you can choose which ones out of four to have

[teal bridge]

I'm not sure what you mean, the Grid is a layout control. If you want a border, you can stick it in a Frame or Panel?

[lucid iron]

yea on the children is fine too

i just didnt figure out how to make only leftside border

[teal bridge]

Ah. Well, everything in SDV is sprites, so that didn't really occur to me. But I guess it's possible by disabling some slices of the nine-slice.

Or you could just use the vertical divider sprite.

Why do you need a one-sided border?

[lucid iron]

to divide ScrollableFrameView

[teal bridge]

Definitely use the divider sprites for that - just add an image pointing to that sprite.

That's how it's done here (top of the thing I posted the other day)

That's the horizontal divider but, same thing, just different sprite/layout.

[lucid iron]

yee

[rancid temple]

Remind me in 14 hours to look at this ItemStockInformation error

[patent lance]

ugh I was about to take a nap. but fine rokugin I'll stay awake just for you (#6238776) (14h | <t:1726252797>)

[teal bridge]

The repo is not public yet but the code for that is literally just

var separator = new Image()
{
    Layout = LayoutParameters.AutoRow(),
    Margin = UiSprites.MenuHorizontalDividerMargin,
    Fit = ImageFit.Stretch,
    Sprite = UiSprites.MenuHorizontalDivider,
};

Requires a precise margin but that's CA's fault, not mine.
(Also, I should clarify, this does not require any weird layout stuff with panels. Just stick the separator in a normal Lane and you're done.)

[pine elbow]

Hello guys!

[teal bridge]

How did I manage to end the day with a longer to-do list than what I started with...

[pine elbow]

I want to create a new npc, but the wiki guide it's too old

Someone can help me with some stuffs?

[uncut viper]

!npc

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

1. Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6:
   https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Making_a_Custom_NPC

2. Custom NPCs received many improvements with 1.6. For changes made, see the migration guide:
   https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Migrate_to_Stardew_Valley_1.6#Custom_NPCs

3. Some information on the NPC wiki page is still relevant:
   https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:NPC_data
   Just make sure you're checking the migration page and tutorial first as this page still has outdated information on it as well.

4. Aviroen has put together a template that will allow you to easily create a romanceable NPC:
   https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Npc_template

To use this command, type !npc.

[pine elbow]

Oh, thanks!

[old edge]

hello been attempting to conjure some lava into a map. Still having some trouble but I did find the VolcanoDungeon.cs file and looking at it.

[rancid temple]

Can you cancel a Remind me request?

Building the project in 1.6.9 fixed the error lol

[uncut viper]

technically there is a way but i wouldnt be surprised if only mods had that command permission

[lucid mulch]

.timer remove <id>

if the docs are correct

[brave fable]

forget about me, maru

[rancid temple]

.timer remove 6238776

[patent lance]

Timer removed.

[rancid temple]

Thanks!

[lucid mulch]

https://ub3r-b0t.com/docs/articles/commands.html#timer for reference

[rancid temple]

I have been hoping for this exact thing lol, thanks again

This bot has some absolutely unhinged commands lmao

[teal bridge]

Wow that is a lot of commands

[old edge]

there must be a way conceredape conjures the lava tiles into the map on the fly.

[teal bridge]

Though I clicked on some of the APIs it claims to use and they're going to domain squatters...

[lucid mulch]

lvl100 mines lava, volano lava, or other

[rancid temple]

Rebuilding AT also fixed its issues, seems like Happy Home Designer is having an issue patching it now, in the midst of some IL and I'm way too tired to deal with that

[teal bridge]

Remember that for every bug you get Pathos to fix, you're breaking somebody's transpiler 🙃

[rancid temple]

Lol

[latent mauve]

well, this answers the original thought behind my question. Multiplayer friend wanted to know if we could make Krobus actually use a spouse patio, since we can make one for him. Game code says no. xD

Only other reason I'd have wanted to know about spouse schedules was to try to set times where they go into a custom renovation room, because they will not path into them at all currently.

[rancid temple]

Yeah pretty sure the areas they can randomly wander inside the farmhouse are hardcoded rectangles too

[latent mauve]

(I was gonna make cute hobby rooms for spouses)

I could still make them, but they'll never actually visit them, which is sad

[lucid mulch]

spouse behaviour is an authentic italian meal

[rancid temple]

Exactly the way it is and you'll like it that way?

[knotty phoenix]

so has 1.6 been out long enough that there's methods for doing most things that we could do before?

[lucid iron]

Yes?

[rancid temple]

Did anything major get lost in the update?

[lucid iron]

Depends on what you r thinking of

[uncut viper]

there were methods for most things like as soon as 1.6 came out

[rancid temple]

If you have like a specific concern, it would be easier to point you in the right direction

[formal crown]

If anyone had meddled with Automate before, do they know if Automate automatically supports custom buildings added via CP?

[rancid temple]

Haven't tried on custom buildings, I know it works on custom machines, so I would assume

[formal crown]

I wanted to ask in case there's an obvious answer somewhere and I missed it

[lucid iron]

If it's a mill like building I think it'll work

[old edge]

I think I got it the lava is a tile and it still uses the water tile map property

but I think it's coded a bit differently mainly I think the animation is just reversed and there is some code behind it.

[unique sigil]

hi, a newbie mapmaking question here:
i'm using my custom farm to replace the vanilla hilltop farm. the custom farm has no quarry area, but ore deposits are still spawning on the farm. how do i disable this? do i need to make an FTM file?

[latent mauve]

If you are actively replacing the hilltop farm instead of creating an additional farm, you may need to change the Location Data for the farm to change the ore spawning chance?

Not at my computer right now, but I think that's determined in Data/Locations for the specific farms.

[unique sigil]

can i do that via CP? i am indeed trying to replace hilltop using the Load action in my content.json

[latent mauve]

If it's visible in the Data/Locations entry for the hilltop farm, then yes, you can change it with CP

[unique sigil]

okay ill try that out!!

[latent mauve]

If it's not in there, hilltop may still be hardcoded to do ore spawning, in which case, you would be better off replacing a different base map type if you want to remove the ore spawns entirely

Or creating a new map entirely through the AdditionalFarms data entries, which is my personal preference

[finite ginkgo]

(I thought the ore spawning was controlled by a map property? The SpawnMountainFarmOreRect map property, unless it's hardcoded on the hilltop farm)

[unique sigil]

i don't have any such map properties on my map, so it has to be hardcoded i think

[silver pelican]

hewo! does anyone know if theres a mod that lets your baby grow into a child in a short time or a configuration of it? im doing a test on a mod. Im using cjb but it doesnt trigger the baby's growth regardless of how far i skip days (>28d)

[brave fable]

do these console commands do what you want?
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Console_commands#Children

[untold nymph]

Hey. I have never written a mod, but I am a somewhat experienced programmer. I have everything up and running to start writing a mod (a functioning "hello world").
I want to write a "dual wield" mode. That is, that you could mark two items in your inventory and use one with click and the other with alt+click.
Any recommendations on how to start?

As a start I would like to have the inventory item marked with a blue square if I alt+click it similarly to how it is marked in red when I click it normally

[silver pelican]

ill try these. thanks so much!

[finite ginkgo]

If you haven't already

!decompile

[ocean sail]

If you want to make SMAPI mods with C#, one important resource is decompiling the game to read the game code. Here's how to do it: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#How_do_I_decompile_the_game_code.3F

To use this command, type !decompile.

[finite ginkgo]

Otherwise not many tips anyone could offer

[untold nymph]

Is the only way to find out whether a mouse click was on an inventory item is to use Harmony? SMAPI doesn't have an API for that?

[proud wyvern]

SMAPI does not generally have a lot of APIs/events, no.

[shadow vortex]

I'm curious if Shane's mom has ever had her name stated in canon, or if there's even a standard fanon name for her. Does anyone know?

[drowsy pewter]

nope

[formal crown]

Well, depends on what are you looking for. SMAPI doesn't have an event for ClickedOnInventory or something, but you can hook into the ButtonPressed event and if the current menu is a MenuWithInventory, check if its heldItem field is null or not

[untold nymph]

I'm actually not trying to look into the inventory meny but the inventory bar

[formal crown]

Then you want the Game1.activeClickableMenu to be null, but I'm not sure how'd you do the rest (don't forget to call e.Button.IsUseToolButton() instead of hardcoding it to left click)

[proud wyvern]

yeah, i'd definitely use Harmony for that. it makes the intent more clear

(although i'm a big hater of using the ButtonPressed event)

[formal crown]

(Why? Out of curiosity)

[proud wyvern]

you're doing additional logic to make sure the player is clicking the thing you care about
and also you're making cross-mod compatibility harder

[shadow vortex]

After thinking it over, this mod idea makes a lot more sense if it's about Alex's dead mom instead. I don't think her name has ever been given either.

[gusty bison]

I want SMAPI on my switch 😭😭

[formal crown]

||Iirc her name is Clara||

[rancid temple]

!switchmodding

[ocean sail]

Modding on the Nintendo Switch is technically possible in a very limited capacity, but it requires jailbreaking your Switch, which is only possible on select models or by physically altering the hardware of your Switch, and can run the risk of bricking your console and/or being banned by Nintendo. Only visual texture and dialogue replacer XNB mods can be installed. Due to these limitations, we do not provide guides on how to mod the Switch and it is up to the individual if they want to take these risks.

To use this command, type !switchmodding.

[rancid temple]

Looks like no SMAPI for Switch even if you have a modding capable console, that's unfortunate

[heady relic]

now the steam deck though...

[rancid temple]

Sure, if you have the extra money lying around lol

[heady relic]

lmao fair. I got mods working on mine right before 1.6 came out. It was a several hour long process, and then everything broke and I gave up.

[rancid temple]

Oh great lol, they're phasing out their cheaper models too

[calm nebula]

Inflation!

How much is a steam deck

[heady relic]

they're actually on sale right now apparently

[rancid temple]

$300 and $340 before tax for the cheap ones

$400, $550, $650 for the ones that will continue to be sold after those run out of stock

[calm nebula]

Oh that isn't as bad as I thought

I mean, I have zero use for one but still

[rancid temple]

If I had the money, I'd rather upgrade my computer lol

[heady relic]

Yeah, when my last bonus rolled in I hyped myself up and bought the 512 OLED one for when I travel. I then immediately stopped traveling, and have used it like, twice.

[calm nebula]

I legit boot up my personal computer about once a week now lol

[rancid temple]

I would not be able to function lol

[calm nebula]

How so? My personal email is on my phone. Work gave me a laptop

So all actual work is on work laptop

[rancid temple]

I just have a problem lol, this computer is everything I do all day every day

[small path]

So I am trying to make a feature in a mod, however it would require me to add save data to the save. But I don't know where to look for a mod that already does something like this. Basically I just need to save a list of GameLocations and Vector2s but I don't know how to go about doing this

[rancid temple]

In order to avoid messing with the save serializer, or having to figure out SpaceCore's, I'd probably just save that stuff in a json with my mod tying it to the player's ID or some such thing

[small path]

I'd need to use the save as n identifier because it's per save not per player but hmm

[tiny zealot]

here's the API reference for how to store stuff in save data: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Data#Save_data
be mindful that this API will barf if any non-host player tries to execute it, so you will have to check that

[small path]

If I use SpaceCore's do I need to reference the DLL itself, because I don't know how to access the events through the API, but yea

[tiny zealot]

if possible, consider storing your data in some object's ModData instead, since then you don't have to do any fiddly work about it (the tricky bits are handled for you)

[small path]

okai sure

[rancid temple]

Ooh, I can dump my hard reference to SpaceCore, the API has the virtual currency stuff again (3 weeks ago apparently lmao)

[grand gale]

Can't get a drop from the node :/ https://smapi.io/log/90f3c42abc714dbe8dc778f3f2b8ec6f

"LogName": "Adding Node",
            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Mods/mistyspring.ItemExtensions/Resources",
            "Entries": {
                "LightningStone": {
                    "DisplayName": "{{i18n: LightningStone.name}}",
                    "Description": "{{i18n: LightningStone.description}}",
                    "Width": 1,
                    "Height": 1,
                    "Texture": "{{ModId}}/Objects",
                    "SpriteIndex": 0,
                    "Health": 24,
                    "Tool": "Pickaxe",
                    "MinToolLevel": 0,
                    "ItemDropped": "(O)128",
                    "MinDrops": 1,
                    "MaxDrops": 4,
                    "Debris": "stone, blue",
                    "BreakingSound": "stoneCrack",
                    "Sound": "hammer",
                    "FailSounds": ["clubhit", "clank"],
                    "Shake": true,
                    "Skill": "Mining",
                    "Exp": 55,
                    "MineSpawns": [
                        {
                            "Floors": "170/-999",
                            "SpawnFrequency": 0.1,
                            "Type": "All"
                        }
                    ]
                }
            }

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.0.8 with SDV 1.6.8 build 24119 on Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, with 16 C# mods and 10 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[teal bridge]

I never noticed the line that it doesn't work for farmhands in multiplayer. Does the SaveLoaded event actually run for farmhands or does only the host actually "load" the save?

[tiny zealot]

i don't recall offhand about the events. i'm talking about ModHelper.Data.ReadSaveData/WriteSaveData, which will throw if farmhands try to call them

[teal bridge]

Right - I'm doing ReadSaveData in OnSaveLoaded without explicitly checking for multiplayer and thinking that's probably OK if the event doesn't run for farmhands.

Looks like I'm wrong though: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Events#GameLoop.SaveLoaded

Surprised that no one's reported an issue, I wonder if it really crashes or does something nasty vs. just printing a warning to the console.

[tiny zealot]

it definitely crashes out of whatever thing you're trying to do. it didn't bring down the game when my mod did it but it did prevent NPC interaction

[calm nebula]

How

[tiny zealot]

only with my NPC, for the record. i was doing shenanigans

[teal bridge]

It also says you don't need to prefix the key with your mod ID, and my every time I've used it, my mod ID is the entire key... I should really read the docs once in a while.

[rancid temple]

The only thing jumping out at me as wrong is that there's no field for FailSounds on the docs

Oh wait

You put a comma in the Debris field, pretty sure it's space delimited only

Should just be
"Debris": "stone blue"

[untold nymph]

Found it!
https://pastebin.com/gmmCLxZB

[rancid temple]

Which would explain that error log I guess

Choosing a category on Nexus is the hardest part

[teal bridge]

I notice Utility.controllerMapSourceRect is hardcoded to xbox (we brought this up last week) but I wonder if it is conditionally compiled? Could the implementation be different on other platforms? (are there even console targets?)

[rancid temple]

Anyone know if there's any particular difference between using CustomFields vs ModData?

[teal bridge]

Well, custom fields can be used in GSQs, for one.

[rancid temple]

That's interesting, not something I need for this, but certainly interesting

[teal bridge]

They're also passed into TriggerActionContext

[tiny zealot]

all i have to say here is that presumably there are console targets, but they aren't likely to be visible to us on PC with just a decompile

[brittle pasture]

CustomFields is a data model property, while ModData is meant to persist in an in game instance

[teal bridge]

Custom fields are also available on more types, but availability of mod data can be checked with IHaveModData whereas with custom fields it's either there or it's not.

[rancid temple]

Hmmm, ok. Thank you both

[teal bridge]

(re: console code being unavailable with decompile, yep, that's why I was asking, it seemed strange that CA would include a sprite sheet for so many different controllers but not write any code to use them)

[heady relic]

Nah, that sounds par for the course for a single person project of passion. Get caught up making all the sprites you could possibly need, then think about coding it, and do something else instead.

[teal bridge]

Does not strike me as CA's style. While there are plenty of little foibles in the code, I haven't seen a lot of wasted sprites or data, unless you count the abandoned meat stuff.

It's more often the opposite - there are a bunch of loose/random sprite sheets because sprites had to be added at the last minute with no obvious place to put them.

[unique sigil]

aaa i did it you guys! my first mod!!

editing the json files took way longer than i thought. do yall use a program for that or just notepad?

[teal bridge]

Even if CA did create way more sprites than necessary, there'd be no reason to include them in the published game data.

[rancid temple]

I feel like I'm constantly stumbling over unused tidbits in the code and files

[heady relic]

I use IntelliJ. lets me open what I want side by side, color codes everything, and shows errors.

[rancid temple]

!vsc

[ocean sail]

When creating content mods, it's useful to have a program that will check the validity of your json for you. We tend to recommend either VSCode https://code.visualstudio.com/download or notepad++ https://notepad-plus-plus.org/downloads/

To use this command, type !vsc.

[teal bridge]

I mean yeah, there's unused stuff. But there is "no longer used", there is "didn't quite work as intended but plan to use it", and there is "I have no idea why this is here".

[unique sigil]

oh that sounds great. i'll be checking that out

[rancid temple]

I prefer VSCode but you can also use N++ if you want, just make sure to get the validation plugin if so

Anything with validation will save your life

[teal bridge]

There is definitely some of the latter, though I think the former is the most common - code that made sense at one point and is now a historical artifact.

[velvet narwhal]

school paid for my vs22 so that's what i'm using

[rancid temple]

I just use the free version of everything lmao

[teal bridge]

And I just realized that this entire controller sprite sheet doesn't have any prompts for the trigger/shoulder buttons anyway, so fuggit.

[rancid temple]

Though, I'd love to get my hands on Rider for playing with IL

[tiny zealot]

counterpoint: Dana

[teal bridge]

Dana?

[tiny zealot]

previous incarnation of penny. her old unused spritesheet was included in the game data until 1.6

[teal bridge]

And was never actually in the game, even in the early versions?

[grand gale]

Ughh, these little details are gonna make me crazy someday, lol thank you so much it worked

[tiny zealot]

(there were a few others too) correct

[teal bridge]

Alright, well, I stand corrected then.

[heady relic]

looks like there was a male/female rival too

[rancid temple]

When it doubt, copy the template and then make micro changes from there lol

I definitely get the "I shipped it with stuff it doesn't need, but it's already out so why bother removing it now" mood

[heady relic]

when I'm confused I tend to grab chunks from the unpacked code, ditch the optional fields, and change what I need.

[rancid temple]

This can be a double edged sword if you don't format the rest of your patch correctly lol

[heady relic]

Oh it almost always bites me in the ass

[unique sigil]

literally me just now i keep making mistakes bc i keep mistaking which parenthesis is whose

or how many i need

[rancid temple]

Yeah, definitely get an editor with validation, it'll point out things like that

Good ones will even add closing brackets and stuff for you

Another double edged sword sometimes lol

[velvet narwhal]

intellisense scorns me with the amount of " and '

[rancid temple]

Editing my manifest for C# mods is always fun because if I'm not paying attention, my description will have a bunch of unnecessary ' lying around

[teal bridge]

Great "feature" of VS, ain't that?

[rancid temple]

It might happen in VSCode too, but I haven't been writing real descriptions for my various test mods lmao

[teal bridge]

Yes, I totally meant to type two single quotes inside my double-quoted string!

[rancid temple]

Surely I needed to quote something in my quote and not make something plural

[velvet narwhal]

worst feature: all of my jsons used to have a cleaner whitespace, now they've squished it so whenever i open an untouched json it's wide and wieldy

[rancid temple]

I haven't been able to figure out why some of my indents are small and some are huge

It's different between jsons I open and I don't get it lol

[teal bridge]

Eh, just run prettier if you want a particular JSON format.

Yeah, VS confused between spaces and tabs sometimes.

I've actually run into issues where it will just straight up refuse to switch to spaces.

[rancid temple]

I thought it might be that, but when I check they're all spaces

[teal bridge]

Like, clicking on the "TAB" and select "SPC" does literally nothing.

[rancid temple]

It just for some reason decides that some of my jsons need 4 spaces instead of 2

"You're gonna want to spread out for this one, bud"

[teal bridge]

Are they all .json extension?

[rancid temple]

That's how they're saved but I have them linked to validate as jsonc

[teal bridge]

You could try turning off adaptive formatting.

That's what causes a lot of those problems.

[brittle pasture]

see I don't get any of these problems in vim

[teal bridge]

I find adaptive formatting mostly annoying anyway since I use csharpier for the code formatting and don't use different formatting styles for different data on different projects.

[rancid temple]

I'll have to give that a try, thanks

[teal bridge]

I'll bet there's a lot of other things you don't get in vim.

Don't get me wrong, I used nothing but vim and command line tools for a whole year at work. But I can't say I want to go back to that.

(cue the one emacs guy saying that if I followed the one true faith I never would have left)

While we're on the subject of workflows and such, does anyone else who works on shared projects have a nice way of keeping the source rule set at **\*.cs?

My current (hilarious) workflow is:

• Have .projitems open in Notepad++
• Alt-Shift-C to add new class
• Click on "C#" in the dialog because VS insists on defaulting to "MSBuild Directory.Build.props file" anyway
• Ctrl-Shift-S to save everything, including the borked .projitems
• Switch to Notepad++, tell it not to reload the file
• Resave the old .projitems in N++
• Switch back to VS and click the "Reload All" button, or sometimes the "Discard" button depending on what mood it's in
• Actually be able to compile code again.

[lucid iron]

This is a lot just to build

[teal bridge]

It is indeed. Makes you appreciate the convenience of MSBuild, when it works like it's supposed to.

[lucid iron]

I do everything in vsc and get angry at microsoft whenever they break the c# plugin again

[calm nebula]

CustomFields are on data

And are often not MP synced

ModData is NP synced

[rancid temple]

Thanks! That does give me some idea for my fish pond mod, if I want to avoid sending messages between clients

If I ever go back to that lmao

[brittle pasture]

sounds like you'd use neither in that case but your own thing?

A non-synced moddata kind of

[rancid temple]

I was thinking the ModData might be good because the colors don't sync as reliably as I would expect of a net field

[teal bridge]

ModData is a net field (net dictionary)

[rancid temple]

Yeah but I'm hoping it syncs more reliably 🤣

I'll probably end up having to just do the messages thing

[teal bridge]

I deal directly with netcode not at all, but are you sure it's not syncing reliably vs. you're just not detecting it in time (e.g. responding directly to change event)?

[rancid temple]

Really not sure, my current implementation is something like, postfix the color and hope the game syncs it right

MP wasn't even a consideration originally, which is also why I haven't bothered to fix it at this point

[teal bridge]

Hard to guess at specifics there, but... if you (or the code you're patching) has any code that reads from a netfield and saves the value, or derives some other value based on it, then it has to watch the event in order to update as soon as the field is synced.

Netfield just gives you a value that's synced, it won't guarantee that anything derived from it is also properly synced unless it always derived on the fly.

[rancid temple]

Ugh, I hate looking at this code lmao, I wanna dump this content pack shit so bad. Aside from setting the override color on the fish pond based on some content pack data, I'm not really doing anything else with this net field

My original assumption was that net fields are synced often enough that I wouldn't actually need to do anything else, but in practice the syncing was not really consistent

Don't know how this whole networking system works, like if the client thinks something is supposed to be one value, but the host tells them it's supposed to be something else, do they just argue about it until the host eventually wins?

[shut loom]

Is anyone working in a not very human-like NPC, monster-ish NPC? I would like to draw one.

[faint ingot]

I have a question about how to set up custom NPC festival positions for y1 vs y2? I have it figured out by year for dialogue but don't know how to enter year 2 coordinate positions. ``` {
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/Festivals/fall27",
"TextOperations": [
{
"Operation": "Append",
"Target": [
"Entries",
"Set-Up_additionalCharacters"
],
"Value": "Shannon 32 62 0/Russell 22 53 2",
"Delimiter": "/"

            },
        ],
        "Entries": {
            "Shannon": "{{i18n:festivals.shannon.fall27}}",
            "Shannon_y2": "{{i18n:festivals.shannon.fall27.y2}}",
            "Russell": "{{i18n:festivals.russell.fall27}}",
            "Russell_y2": "{{i18n:festivals.russell.fall27.y2}}",
        }
    },```

[velvet narwhal]

i'll double check in a sec but i think it's quite literally Set-up_additionalCharacters_y2

yep it is lmao Set-Up_additionalCharacters_y2 if you go beyond y2 you're gonna remove all other custom npcs that don't have that key, so i don't suggest it lest you get yelled at

[rancid temple]

Does it alternate years if you only have the two?

[faint ingot]

Thank you so much just tested and it is working.

[velvet narwhal]

you can get away with standard Set-up_additional and then when conditions (based on me reading SVE's spirits eve code) so i'm gonna assume as long as no one adds a _y# we'll all be happy

[tiny zealot]

[finite ginkgo]

When you say "on the base layer" do you mean on the Back layer? Passable on Back makes tiles impassable regardless of the value you give it, in spite of it's name

[tiny zealot]

can't say i've seen either of these. for the first one, could there be a fully-transparent tile placed there?

[quasi dew]

ISO motivation to mod some events for Shane. I looked at his marriage dialogue for inspo, and Yoba CHRIST is it bleak.

[final arch]

(share the map if you still have issues)

[rancid temple]

Shane is a pretty bleak dude

[teal bridge]

I think Stardew uses some type of custom rollback netcode but someone like Atra might know better. If so, then conflict resolution is some variation of "make the change locally, right now, but if you learn that some remote client made a different change on a previous frame, then throw away your local change and use their value".

[rancid temple]

So everybody has authority?

[teal bridge]

It's nowhere near that simple in practice, of course.

Everybody has some authority - though, since Stardew does have the concept of a host/main player, it is likely that the host has more authority. Conventional rollback is entirely peer-based.

Keep in mind I'm just giving a generic-ish answer of "this is what netcode generally does" without diving into the hairy specifics of Stardew's wacky custom netcode.

[faint ingot]

Well, I have learned a useless fact. If you don't do ANY fishing until the festival of ice, you get the 'tutorial' fishing bar (bar never depletes) for every cast in the event.

[teal bridge]

That being said, since you're generally trying to write code independently of whether you're the host or a farmhand, what you probably need to know is that anything you try to write to a netfield might get overwritten almost immediately (within a few frames) if there was any kind of conflict.

[tiny zealot]

oh, i didn't know it lasted the whole event, that's neat. i've done this exploit to guarantee a lava eel on mines 100 before

[teal bridge]

Also, that anything you read from a netfield should be understood as totally transient; whatever value it has right now, might be a different value a millisecond later.

[rancid temple]

For map making, I suggest taking a look at how the base game structures maps, generally you'll want to create a border around the area you want to be walkable with Buildings tiles

[lucid iron]

I think you can make the main player do all the updates

[next plaza]

Yeah it's something like that, though on the topic of authority it is generally all shared, except for your Farmer object, which other clients can't edit

[lucid iron]

And make clients draw according to state

[teal bridge]

Thanks, good to have confirmation. It's complicated because real rollback netcode isn't generally purely field-based, it's event/state-based... but Stardew's is field-based.

[rancid temple]

If you have it, you can use Lookup Anything in game to see if your tile data is on the tiles, though this is kind of annoying to do because of how much info is displayed

You can also patch export the map to be able to look at the tmx, which will also be kind of flooded with data

[teal bridge]

Well, "real" is probably unfair, I should say something like "industry standard" instead.

[rancid temple]

Stardew's netcode makes me glad I don't have to roll my own solution

[teal bridge]

My understanding (though I don't work in the game dev "industry") is that writing one's own netcode is generally frowned upon, like writing one's own crypto.

There are well-established libraries like GGPO that do it for you.

Of course in a brand new framework (like Bevy) someone will of course have to write a new one.

[lucid iron]

Was there a standard netcode lib for monogame back when stardew was adding multiplayer

[teal bridge]

There's not much of a standard anything for MonoGame...

I mean, as we're all intimately aware of, there isn't even a standard UI library (Unity has two).

No wait... I think Unity has three now.

[rancid temple]

I'm familiar-ish with two of them

Not sure what the third is lol

[teal bridge]

So yeah, MonoGame is game dev for C# guys who are deeply into DIYing (which I totally get; Bevy is the same in Rust-land).

Unity had the old IMGUI, a semi-old Forms-based thing, and I think the new one is some HTML/CSS analogue although maybe it's not ready yet.

[rancid temple]

I think it's ready, I don't like it lol

[teal bridge]

Haha, I didn't say the new one was better, or even that any of them are good, just that they exist!

MonoGame has... um... SpriteBatch. Do what you will with it.

[rancid temple]

Lol

[next plaza]

There apparently used to be some monogame networking: https://github.com/nkast/MonoGame.Framework.Net (I saw it when reading about KNI recently) But it looks fairly barebones, like everything else MG does

[teal bridge]

Interesting, it's based on the same Lidgren.Network I see in Stardew's decompile.

Wonder if SD's was forked from that.

[rancid temple]

Didn't even register that while going through it lol, weird

[faint remnant]

Is there a special way to link up the paths tilesheet? I cant get the light feature to work in Tiled map making

[finite ginkgo]

Is it an outdoors map?

Outdoor maps need the map property forceLoadPathLayerLights in order to use lights from the paths layer

[faint remnant]

Indoor sorry

[calm nebula]

(Casey and Myuu are the MP authorities.)

(An Atra knows little of MP these days and is trying to forget that little bit.)

[queen valley]

I may have not thought about how long these names were going to be when I made this 😅

[golden spire]

during my latest hiatus I have finally thought of 3 more delivery events for Ayeisha, Delivering some special cloloured ink to Elliott. Delivering a spare fuse for Harvey as the internal fuse to his radio burned out. And whilst delivering to Robin she asks for any off cuts of wood, as she wants to make a cat toy for her cat.

[next plaza]

CAT

Ahem

[heady relic]

dear lord tungsten tools would be so heavy

[gilded comet]

probably why it seems to be an alloy?

[gilded comet]

(looks like a really fun concept, btw!!)

[shadow vortex]

Iridium tools would also be incredibly heavy and not very useful, if they were solid iridium.

[frail plank]

Is there an easy way to trigger a tool use animation? Like the full animation with tool in hand?

[heady relic]

true enough

[queen valley]

I originally wanted to just make a new skill for Blacksmithing, but then I got carried away and started making new resources and alloys to use, lol

[gilded comet]

oh yeah, crazy heavy. iridium is super dense

[teal bridge]

Iridium is also a dark silver/gray color, not violet. I always assumed that what Stardew calls "Iridium" is really just a stand-in for some sort of exotic fantasy metal, like mithril or latinum.

[tiny zealot]

magic space metal 👐

[plucky reef]

Unobtainium, fresh from Eywa'eveng (since we know it's from space).

[teal bridge]

Also pretty sure that if we were playing by real-world rules, gold would be a terrible "upgrade" on steel. Iridium is a very hard metal, so +1 on that, but gold is almost as bad as copper.

It's best not think about the actual chemistry and consider as more of a "tier".

[plucky reef]

Gold is to hold extra enchantments, everybody knows that.

What's the base tool material, iron?

[calm nebula]

Iridium is hard but very brittle

Anyways

The base tool material is clearly aluminum

[plucky reef]

Could make iridium a Tungsten electroplating instead.

[next plaza]

Technically you use iron after copper, even if it's called a steel tool

[velvet narwhal]

though we do have uranium now, and they're used in military armor defense

[teal bridge]

If you want something really hard and not brittle, diamonds seem to be rather plentiful in game...

[calm nebula]

You have what

In

What

[velvet narwhal]

depleted uranium is used for tanks

[brittle pasture]

Arent diamonds super brittle

[tiny zealot]

wrong hard. diamonds will shatter (fairly easily) if you hit them

[calm nebula]

Why is depleted uranium used for tanks

[velvet narwhal]

DU is one of the densest metals known, and is almost twice as dense as lead. DU is used in military applications, such as anti-tank rounds, because its high density gives it momentum and a straight trajectory.

i hope my fbi agent enjoys that google search

i had it backwards, it's anti-tank

but that means it makes a great pickaxe

[calm nebula]

Elizabeth don't look

[brittle pasture]

reject modernity, return to the 7 metals of antiquity

[royal nimbus]

im struggling with Tiled and im not finding any tutorials very helpful. would anyone be willing to teach me a thing or two with it sometime?

[teal bridge]

You're right, I should have been looking at toughness, not just hardness. Chromium or cobalt would have been a better choice. (Gold is still bad, though)

[next plaza]

Did somebody say cobalt for tools? https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/1723

(Predates prismatic tools)

Prismatic Tools got made because someone was impatient I hadn't updated Cobalt for a beta

If I remember correctly they even based it on my code

[teal bridge]

What is that craziness going on at the left side?

Cobalt energy?

[next plaza]

That was the Magic mod

This one https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/2007

(It's a trash-tier mod)

(So poorly designed)

[teal bridge]

Heh, good you clarified, I was thinking of a different kind of "trash mod"

Cobalt makes a lot more sense for an axe or pickaxe. But then, what would anyone want with a cobalt sprinkler or a cobalt watering can? It's hard to reconcile the real-world material with the tier. Prismatic probably communicates the whole "magic fantasy material" thing better.

[next plaza]

I just wanted blue tools 😛

[teal bridge]

"Let us take an alloy of the heaviest metals in existence and use them.... to dispense a trickle of water"

[next plaza]

You could argue similarly for the watering can for vanilla - why not just make a bigger copper one

[brittle pasture]

let's just go the Dwarf Fortress route and add a bazillion metals to the game, but make iron/steel the only one you can make tools from

[teal bridge]

Doesn't Stardew already have that?

[next plaza]

Or the TerraFirmaCraft route

[brittle pasture]

as in the only one

[teal bridge]

There are 500 different minerals you can get (not literally).

[golden spire]

elementomon gotta collect 'em all

even the really dangerous ones

[calm nebula]

Oh my god

Elizabeth please don't look

[golden spire]

and an expensive research facility to produce the ones that only survive for a nano second

[teal bridge]

I'm sure it would be possible to make a mod that lets you combine, say, malachite and granite into an axe, and even give them unique properties. It'd be hella confusing though. IME most players don't actually enjoy those kinds of crafting systems.

[golden spire]

Unbinilium

[next plaza]

I mean, I almost made a Tinker's Construct tools like mod for SDV at one point - I couldn't think of a lot of unique properties for things though

[teal bridge]

Any enchantments, any buffs are potentially effects.

Maybe one material magnifies the effects of others, etc.

[next plaza]

I think this was back pre-enchantments. Though I wouldn't want to invalidate the vanilla enchanting system either

[teal bridge]

Dunno if it'd be invalidation, they'd presumably be weaker than vanilla enchantments and buffs because they're passive.

[golden spire]

Turning your granspas farm into a giant polluting metal refinery

[teal bridge]

Or just think of any specific tool-related buff. Pickaxe generates more stone/ore. Watering can makes crops grow 1 day faster. I dunno.

You want to see the most ridiculous and convoluted crafting system ever conceived, look at Legend of Mana.

[calm nebula]

You want to see a ridiculous and convoluted crafting system see IRL

[teal bridge]

It's possible to make the most insanely overpowered items you can imagine, but only with insanely long and convoluted formulas; if you don't get them exactly right you end up with basically garbage.

[calm nebula]

What do you mean "scotch tape won a nobel"

[calm nebula]

Sounds like IRL

Do everything right and you get an i9

Do the slightest thing wrong and you get expensive sand

[teal bridge]

Yes and in real life we call that "work".

[calm nebula]

Lol

Knitting is a much simpler crafting cycle

[teal bridge]

Have you tried making your own wool?

[next plaza]

chants Knitting mod. Knitting mod. Knitting mod

[teal bridge]

I can't say I know that much about it, but the synthetic textile industry does seem to go pretty deep.

[lucid iron]

What about crochet mod

[heady relic]

hmm. that's actually an interseting idea. I wonder if it's possible to have a machine that only works when the player is interacting with it

[teal bridge]

I think Atra is going to give his usual response, along the lines of "the whole point is to actually make these things, not put them in a game".

[next plaza]

Applied Energistics (or maybe it was another Minecraft mod) tier 0 grinder flashbacks

[velvet narwhal]

i am too stupid for applied energistics, but my autism goes haywire for create

i will someday dehardcode minigames /s

[hollow nest]

started npc coding today!!! so much harder than I thought…

[shadow vortex]

Yeah, making NPCs is a lot of work.

[hollow nest]

it’s my first mod too… but it’s a fun challenge

[rancid musk]

I will forever not like Applied Energistics for making a "throw this item down and wait a while" mechanic in a game where items despawn after a period of time.

[velvet narwhal]

you'll definitely learn a lot of how to do everything content patcher provides if you go crazy with it

[hollow nest]

ooo!

[heady relic]

According to some quick searching, it might be possible to make a machine that only works when interacted with, but it would require C# coding.

[velvet narwhal]

i was honestly thinking of just shoving a minigame into the sewing machine, make it spit out a rug with the same pattern, i don't know what kind of minigame that would be though
similar to actual rug weaving maybe? (in terms of a knitting mod)

[next plaza]

Yeah... though I think I read they don't despawn while they're processing? (Not sure about when finished)

[rancid musk]

Yeah, they made sure the items don't despawn. It's still just not a great mechanic for Minecraft.

[next plaza]

Yeah

[rancid musk]

It'd be better if they popped into a waterlogged "block" or something.

[heady relic]

My thoughts immediately went to my low-concentration hobby, which is making chainmail.

[next plaza]

To be fair waterlogging didn't use to exist

[rancid musk]

Or just, you know, didn't waste our time taking so long to process.

[heady relic]

You could make maille pants/shirts out of each metal, then combine them with your clothing to increase defense

I guess it would be possible to make a machine that just does it in parts. You add 5 iron bars, after x time you get a 'sheet' of chainmail. You combine enough sheets, you get pants or a shirt.

[old edge]

day 3 of trying to create lava

[lucid iron]

Do you want your lava to work like volcano dungeon lava?

With water interactions

[old edge]

yes the same as the dungeon and caldera maps. I have my map in tiled set up like the caldera map.

[velvet narwhal]

oh you mean like how a watering can creates a platform?

[lucid iron]

The cooled lava code is in VolcanoDungeon, so it's specific to that location

Wow aviroen orange too

[velvet narwhal]

i figured it was time since aba left me

[brittle pasture]

Sounds like a job for a framework
(maybe SpaceCore)

[old edge]

that would be great!

if spacecore had a feature like that?

I just built some code after looking at the volcanodungeon and caldera maps code. Is there a difference to how the lava works in each map?

[velvet narwhal]

it's only used for the volcanodungeon, i don't think the mines has that same function

[old edge]

I mean the outside map ||top of the volcano||

[velvet narwhal]

i honestly never tried to use a watering can out there

[old edge]

I never made it that far yet.

[brittle pasture]

If you mean the forge, no water cans dont work there

[old edge]

hmm that would explain why the code is so short then

[heady relic]

Damn, the wiki doesn't have an article about modding clothing. Does anyone know of an external one?

[velvet narwhal]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Items#Boots

[heady relic]

Ah, perfect, thank you

[lucid iron]

do you want to add shirt/pants items?

[velvet narwhal]

if you want more variety and control there's !fs

yells

!fs

[ocean sail]

Fashion Sense

Fashion Sense is a framework mod that allows modders to create static or animated clothing, hair, accessories, and shoes that can be accessed through a special in-game menu. To access this menu, players will need to obtain the Hand Mirror from Pierre's Shop. The framework supports multiple content packs and also adds the ability to save, load, and export custom outfits.

Mod Users: Install Fashion Sense as well as any desired content packs. Content packs can be found by searching Nexus, or for an interactive list, click here.

Mod Authors: Instructions, tutorials, and tips for creating FS content packs are available on the mod's wiki.

To use this command, type !fs.

[heady relic]

I jokingly suggested a chainmail mod, and now I can't get the idea out of my head. Of course, now I need to make a full new texture for chainmail pants and shirts.

Of course, if you have chainmail, then you should also have plate armor...

[lucid iron]

the game has some

for stats spacecore has ability to add/remove buff on equip

[heady relic]

Looks like there's other mods that already add buffs, like Clothing Buff and Price Adjustment. The real issue is that I want full custom images for the shirts and pants, and looking at the shirt sprites is intimidating at best

[proven spindle]

When you skip an event in-game, it gets marked as 'seen' right? That was my assumption but a comment on one of my mods says they're unable to trigger the mod because they skipped an event that's a prerequisite, and I want to verify whether or not that's possible before I troubleshoot the issue

[rancid temple]

If you set a mail flag in the event, you need to set it before the skip

Otherwise the entire rest of the event is skipped and anything you did after the skip button is pressed doesn't happen

[rancid temple]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Items#Item_types
If you look at shirts, you can see that they have a minimum width requirement, but whatever sheet you're using for your shirt can be whatever height, so you could have multiple shirts on the same sheet

[velvet narwhal]

if it's just e <eventid> it should have marked as seen even if it's skipped, there could also be an underlying where if you have a 'transitionary' event ID as a prerequisite, it'll never trigger
(i.e. if you switchEvent -> eventID and set THAT eventID as a prereq, it'll never register)

[rancid temple]

A new <author> touches the <cheeto dust>!

(Grats lol)

[uncut viper]

(but also ditto grats!! c:)

[rancid temple]

Button marches on to purple alone

[velvet narwhal]

aba left me first, i had to

[proven spindle]

It doesn't rely on a mail flag, it requires having the eventID itself marked as seen (the required event is vanilla, the condition in my mod's event is 'e ###'

[uncut viper]

its ok ill just make you showcase all my mods to make up for it

[velvet narwhal]

i would spotlight the sfw version that i'm simul-patching but i think i'll be fine on that front

[velvet narwhal]

deal

[proven spindle]

It's an old mod at this point (adv abigail), this is the first time I'm hearing of an issue like this but I'm about to release another mod with an event with a similar precondition so I want to make sure it's working right

No switchevents involved

[rancid temple]

Did they happen to do the bare minimum and get you a log?

[proven spindle]

Not yet lol

[heady relic]

then the bug doesn't exist

[velvet narwhal]

since you have prereqs in it, it can't be the stringID problem that i had before-- lmao

[uncut viper]

im pretty sure the event id always gets added to the players seen events when the event is exited no matter via what means

[proven spindle]

Cool, just making sure I'm not crazy in thinking that's how it works

[velvet narwhal]

unless you're attempting an event using the summit location, then that gets problematic

[rancid temple]

Only other thing I can suggest is sharing the json's for others to look over, if they feel up to it

I know relatively little about events, unfortunately lol

[uncut viper]

even those call exitEvent() in the end, which adds to eventsSeen

unless youve already done a command to say you shouldnt mark it seen

[proven spindle]

I'm fairly confident it's working as intended, this comment just threw me for a loop

[velvet narwhal]

much like how aba can't let go of tiled info from their brain, i cannot let go of event coding

[brittle ledge]

Come code my events, I'm feeling lazy

[teal bridge]

Anyone recall where this animation gets used in the game's UI?

[velvet narwhal]

i would but i have a 7 split question switch to deal with in celebration

[proven spindle]

Dialogue boxes I think. In the lower right corner

[rancid temple]

...in celebration

[velvet narwhal]

yeah my first big boy mod hit 1k uniques, now i suffer

[rancid temple]

Ah cool, I love crashes that don't get logged

[teal bridge]

Ah, thanks, you're right, it's part of the dialogue box, I was totally misinterpreting it as a "delete" button.

[unreal spoke]

It’s used in the dialogue box in the bottom right corner. It just kind of… spins in place.

[formal crown]

It's an animating X button at the bottom of dialogue box

[teal bridge]

Thanks folks, I spotted it.

[rancid temple]

Lmao

[drowsy pewter]

just in case nobody's answered yet, it's the x button at the corner of the dialogue box

[brittle pasture]

...but why male models?

[lucid iron]

selph can i request some doc strings in IExtraMachineConfigApi

[brittle pasture]

Ah yeah, sorry for the completely undocumented API. That's what happens when your "API" was created solely so you can add integration to Lookup Anything/Junimatic

[lucid iron]

its not huge deal cus i can infer from names

[brittle pasture]

(to people who doesnt get it like roku's reaction, this is a reference to a funny scene in Zoolander where a character is given a longwinded explaination, and ends up repeating the question, twice, because he didn't get it)

[brittle pasture]

so basically GetExtra(Tag)Requirements take an output item data and returns a dict of item IDs (or comma-separated list of context tags) to count

[rancid temple]

Male models definitely made me think Zoolander but I usually end up thinking of different quotes lmao

[brittle pasture]

so if an output item takes 2 coal as fuel you'd get a dict with key (O)382 and value 2

You want to call both and use results from both

You can probably ignore the other two functions

[lucid iron]

what about GetFuelsForThisRecipe

oh ig that is check against real player inventory

not in abstract

[brittle pasture]

Yeah that is solely for an upcoming fix to Junimatic - it gets the actual items that will be eaten from the inventory

in case you're using context tags

or the "unique fuels" feature

Oh one more thing, GetExtraRequirements also supports category numbers, so you'd want to handle "-6" and the like
(Though as far as I am aware a grand total of 0 mods use it since it's a vastly better idea to just use context tags)

[iron ridge]

there's only if you want 1.5.4 under linux

[lucid iron]

the host's SaveLoaded event should always happens before PeerConnected right

[rancid temple]

Can you even connect to a game before the host has loaded the save?

Like menu wise I don't think the game is even up until after they've selected the save and loaded into the world

Unless there's a lobby system?

[lucid iron]

yea thats what i thought, but i dont play coop for reals

[rancid temple]

Only played a few times, but I'm pretty sure the lack of a lobby was one of my gripes

Big decider in using time pause for multiplayer was just how long it takes to get everyone connected

[silver snow]

that sounds difficult if even possible considering that the invite code is generated after loading the save

last time i played coop it was either join via invite code or steam

[rancid temple]

Oh, I usually just direct connect with IP lol

[silver snow]

though the host can open their inventory to pause time while other player(s) join

oh never did that lol

[rancid temple]

Until the first player connects and then inventories no longer pause

Unless you have the mod that pauses time when everyone is doing something that would cause time to be paused

[silver snow]

they do if both people are in a pausable menu at once iirc

wat

i thought that was vanilla..

[rancid temple]

Part of the reason fishing is so much worse in multiplayer is because it loses the time pause mechanic without that mod

Unless I missed something and it was added at some point, last time I played it was not

[silver snow]

ah, only for split-screen says the wiki. i dunno where i picked up that information

[rancid temple]

That's actually interesting too though

[silver snow]

ah, main result on https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/389980/is-there-a-way-to-pause-stardew-valley-in-multiplayer is what i saw

i clearly only read the main post and not its replies.. lol

[rancid temple]

In game dev, I've avoided doing splitscreen because the way you have to handle inputs is a pain in the ass and it's not something we've been targeting, so there's a lot of other things about it that I've never considered

[next plaza]

I'm not even making my main game project multiplayer - splitscreen or online.

Easier to design gameplay around one person

[rancid temple]

That's fair, my brother handles the majority of our networking, so the decision usually falls to him lol

[silver snow]

i think its at least nice to think about it, but yeah its also just a pain to support online play

[next plaza]

I can do networking (as demonstrated with the MP mod)... I just don't feel like it

I probably won't finish this project anyways

[rancid temple]

Big mood

[silver snow]

aw. felt

[rare prawn]

Ayye I have a question Trying to figure out a workaround to Content Patcher's animation limitations. When designing a custom building using Content Patcher I believe animations cannot be used correct? I know that Alternative Textures can use animations though. I know you can include a CP and AT mod together in a single download to work together.
My question is that is there some way that you can have the custom building's skin default to an AT texture once built without using the paint bucket first? I know in the building menu it will be whatever skin you have set in the CP mod, I just mean for once it is built and when AT can take effect

[brittle pasture]

building data has a ModData field which allows setting fields in a newly constructed building's modData dict

and AT uses modData to determine which skin to use

I'm not sure if AT documentation lists which fields you need to set and which one. what you can do is enable Debug fields in Lookup Anything, set a skin on your custom building, look at that building and check the modData field to see what you need to copy

[rare prawn]

Okay cool, so it is possible then >:3 tyty

There was an update to Daphne's Buildable Ice Cream Truck, but there is a new framework being used that has the truck spawn on the farm instead of being built, apparently it allows animations, and a lot of folks want the building to be built from Robin's menu still, plus I can't figure out how to target the building with this framework cause I am big dumb, so trying to see if there's an easier way to do this that I can propose to the new author/helper

[brittle pasture]

looking at that mod it seems they are using Solid Foundations instead of CP, and I don't think it exposes the ModData field

[rare prawn]

They were using it previously but now they are using Buildings Included instead

they just haven't removed the requirement of Solid Foundations still

[brittle pasture]

Buildings Included doesn't support defining new buildings, it just allows the ice cream truck to spawn on the farm

[rare prawn]

I guess that would make sense as to why the building won't show up then lol

[brittle pasture]

perhaps you can consider SpaceCore's animated texture feature

[rare prawn]

I was just wondering about that too, would that work with CP custom buildings?

[brittle pasture]

it should, you can target any arbitrary texture

there's also the older Content Patcher Animations but apparently it's somewhat deprecated in favor of SpaceCore

[rare prawn]

It's super laggy too. I tried using it for my festive animated winter tree mod before but it had me sweating

and I'd like to think I have a decent computer

I will give spacecore a go! I will see if I can adjust the mod to work with it, then fiddle with my own retexture

[brittle pasture]

yeah I recall the old way CP-A did it was super slow, and SpaceCore was meant to be faster

[rare prawn]

yehh I think spacecore is similar to DGA, which I liked, was much more efficient

[calm nebula]

I believe in you

[dim yew]

Is spacecore still required to gift a hat in an event or was that nixed in 1.6? 🤔

Can’t find it in the migrate to 1.6 docs but maybe I’m blind

[next plaza]

You can just use addItem with a qualified item ID now

[dim yew]

Yayyy glad it works for hats now 🫶🫶

[rare prawn]

Does anyone know of any mods that use SpaceCore to animate things I can take a look at for a template? Bonus if it's editing the texture of a building, but I mainly just want to see how it's set up o.o

[next plaza]

This is what I have in MMR:

Entry( spacechase0.SpaceCore/TextureOverrides; &_StellarEssence )
{
    TargetTexture: @( items.png );
    TargetRect: { X: 0; Y: 32; Width: 16; Height: 16 };
    SourceTexture: Concatenate( @( items.png ); ":16..19@10" );
}

Equivalent json would be something like (not including the patch header like Action or Target, just the inside of Entries):

"{{ModID}}_StellarEssence": {
  "TargetTexture": "{{InternalAssetKey: items.png}}",
  "TargetRect": { "X": 0, "Y": 32, "Width": 16, "Height": 16 },
  "SourceTexture": "{{InternalAssetKey: items.png}}:16..19@10"
}

[rare prawn]

Thank you! This helps >:3 I will try to figure this out

[brave fable]

the sdv1.6.9 migration page lists Item.CopyFieldsFrom(otherItem) in New utility fields & methods -- wasn't this already in 1.6?

[patent lance]

@next plaza: look into marriage schedules with your 0 schedule fix (24h ago)

[brave fable]

oh no i'm wrong i'm thinking of GetOneCopyFrom

[next plaza]

no u

Remind me in 24 hours to look into marriage schedules with my 0 schedule fix

[patent lance]

For you? Of course, kittycatcasey (#6240376) (24h | <t:1726356964>)

[rancid musk]

How many 24 hour reminders in a row is that now? 🤔

[next plaza]

Like 2-3

[brave fable]

a weaker mind would give in and do the task. it's important to train a strong will

[next plaza]

(The first one was 19 hours)

I just gotta do it before 1.6.9 comes out (or before I put out a new spacecore version), it'll be fiiiiiine

[brave fable]

public bool LearnRecipe(Farmer player = null)
{
    player ??= Game1.player;
    return ((Category == Object.CookingCategory) ? player.cookingRecipes : player.craftingRecipes).TryAdd(BaseName, 0);
}

i wonder of all the ways this won't work for weird category modded items

[rancid musk]

That method looks spooky.

[calm nebula]

How is it spooky

[brave fable]

it gives off a negative aura

[rancid musk]

Using an item's category field. Spooky stuff.

[calm nebula]

Of all the methods in that game

I don't actually find that one terrifying

[rancid musk]

You didn't develop a crafting mod.

[calm nebula]

I guess that's true

[brave fable]

[calm nebula]

Look a distraction!

[next plaza]

Socks!

[brave fable]

oooh why do i have so many ui mods, this screenreader setup is going to double my i18n

[brave fable]

do you know if your InvalidateCacheAndLocalized extension method is still needed at this point?

[calm nebula]

It probably still is

But I like a good citizen registered my strings with strings/objects

And then I like a bad citizen abandoned all my mods

[brave fable]

it's a quiet life

[rare prawn]

Ayoo does anyone have a link to all the item IDs in the game? Specifically looking for things like wood, ice cream, iron bar, etc.

I tried looking on the wiki but it keeps leading me back to the item queries page which just shows me examples on how to put them together in code

[rancid temple]

https://mateusaquino.github.io/stardewids/

[rare prawn]

Thank you! <3

[rancid temple]

Alternatively, the data assets would be the place to look

Oh, we do have a command for that, good to know

[brave fable]

for most items in the game, the sdv 1.5 item IDs sheet is enough:
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Items/Object_sprites

but it's nice there's a more searchable site

[teal bridge]

What's the command? Something like !itemids ?

Guess not.

[brave fable]

!stone

[ocean sail]

🪨 The item ID for Stone is 390.

To use this command, type !stone.

[rancid temple]

!itemid not plural

[ocean sail]

Item ID’s [1.6 SPOILERS!]

https://mateusaquino.github.io/stardewids/

To use this command, type !itemid.

[teal bridge]

Haha, not the stone command.

[rancid temple]

Could make an alias that's plural I guess

Also commands only work at the beginning of a message

[teal bridge]

Let's make a bot command to query a specific item ID, so we can just spam the chat relentlessly to look up items. 🙃

[rare prawn]

!eggplant

[rancid temple]

Lol, stone is important though, if you look in the data carelessly, there's about 20 entries of just stone

[rare prawn]

:C

[rancid temple]

Every single stone that's actually a node is listed in the object data as stone, but if you look at the name and description they say for what node they're for

[next plaza]

That's only in 1.6

[teal bridge]

Oh, I meant define a command like !itemid <value> so we can just make all our queries here.

[next plaza]

Pre-1.6, we weren't so lucky

[rancid temple]

Peak problem is when there's a meme for it

[lucid iron]

does GenericSpawnItemData.MaxItems do anything outside of shops

[next plaza]

It's a new meme, fresh out of the oven

[tiny zealot]

on two occasions i have, in full sincerity, used the !stone command to help someone. feels good

[rancid temple]

Oh lol, that was hot off the presses damn

[next plaza]

I've used it at least 3 times for myself

(I have it memorized now)

[teal bridge]

So how come there's no !wood, isn't wood way more important than stone?

[next plaza]

There's not a bunch of entries named "Wood"

[calm nebula]

Because there is only a single wood item

Because video game

[teal bridge]

Ah I get it now, it's for all the stone nodes/objects vs. the actual stone you can have in your inventory.

[next plaza]

Yeah

[rancid temple]

Wood Variants Mod, makes a bunch of different wood entries for the various "flavors" of wood (All with the same name)

[lucid iron]

i remember seeing a log item

[rancid temple]

!ask I fucking love this one, like why

[ocean sail]

Ask your question or describe your issue here, and someone will help if they can!

To use this command, type !ask.

[lucid iron]

oh thats just furniture

[teal bridge]

Maybe Green Rain Weeds will be the new stone.

Regular weeds were like that too, but they really went all-in on the green rain variants.

[brave fable]

i miss the good old days of Weeds Honey and Weeds Ring

[teal bridge]

Ask Selph about snail honey

[lucid iron]

does the game still rely on internal name stone somehow

[tiny zealot]

that one is probably about https://dontasktoask.com/
for when people are like "has anyone used <mod>?" or "any experts on <foo>?"

[calm nebula]

Yes

[lucid iron]

no :(

[rancid temple]

Actually, there are a bunch of regular Weeds entries too

[teal bridge]

Maybe?

[calm nebula]

Do we have an expert on lasers in the house?

Check the implementation of Object.IsStone

[teal bridge]

I don't actually see an isStone method/property.

Probably for the best, I'm imagining whatever the implementation used to be was goggles-worthy.

[lucid iron]

/// <summary>Get whether this is a stone litter item which can be broken by a pickaxe.</summary>
public bool IsBreakableStone()
{
    if (base.Category == -999)
    {
        return Name == "Stone";
    }
    return false;
}

[calm nebula]

Damn

[lucid iron]

why

[calm nebula]

I was sooo close

Because games with good coding practice never ship

[teal bridge]

They used to

[rancid temple]

Look up how Undertale is coded

[tiny zealot]

old games were just as wtf as new ones. goes back decades

[teal bridge]

Maybe some of them, but e.g. Doom was a masterpiece.

[rancid temple]

Now we get $70 games from AAAA (self proclaimed) studios that ship with all the bugs blatantly visible

[calm nebula]

AAAA is a smaller battery

[teal bridge]

My studio is AAAAAA

[rancid temple]

But it's an extra A, so it must be better (I guess)

[teal bridge]

(It would be more technically correct to call these studios AAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaa)

[calm nebula]

I don't even know what you guys are talking about

[rancid temple]

Ubisoft

[lucid iron]

maybe 1.7 will rename (O)390 to Rock

[rancid temple]

Rename it to Dwayne

[calm nebula]

What's ubisoft

[rancid temple]

A joke company that pretends to make video games

[brittle pasture]

A fr*nch company too

[rancid temple]

Considering dumping the ability to change Robin's position when she's working on your farm, it does not work very well lol

[lucid iron]

what does it do rn

[rancid temple]

Changing her position while she was upgrading inside buildings was the primary purpose

Because if you have a custom building with even slightly different internals that don't leave tile 1, 5 open, she'll be in the wall

When she's building a new building, her position changes properly, but not when upgrading a building, so I guess I need to look for a different method, just haven't gotten lucky with my search terms yet

Iiinteresting, it's that method it's just not using the data I expected

Still reading the data from the base building rather than the upgrade building

[dusk terrace]

hmm... the fact that AT's API methods use a custom class parameter means that my assembly would need to have a hard reference and dependency on AT to use said methods, correct?
https://github.dev/Floogen/AlternativeTextures/blob/stable/AlternativeTextures/Framework/Interfaces/API/Api.cs

I'm trying to optionally support AT for a texture I'm replacing, ideally in the same mod that's also patching draw calls to said texture...

[rancid temple]

Well, knowing what was wrong with it sure made it easy to fix lol

[teal bridge]

Does anyone know how on earth menu cancellation is actually supposed to work in this game?

• Escape works and is what a normal person would press but
• Gamepad B presses translate into the "E" keyboard key and that also cancels out of menus
• ...and Game1.options.cancelButton is a totally different key, "V", which doesn't cancel out of any menu

Is there even actual logic for it, or is just cowboy code all over the place doing whatever it feels like with the key state?

[rancid temple]

I normally push E lmao

Really throws me off when things like GMCM can't be closed with E

[teal bridge]

Does it work everywhere? Is it some kind of alias? Like, the parrot perch for example, says SetHotKey(Keys.Escape)

[rancid temple]

Hm, I am unsure if it works everywhere, kind of a hard thing to remember considering how many menus there are

[teal bridge]

There's so much vanilla logic referencing Keys.Escape directly.

OH... I got it, it's menuButton, apparently.

One problem down, only 78 to go

[rancid temple]

Ah yeah, love when Nexus is being slow as dirt

[velvet narwhal]

is it cloud server problems yet again ?

[rancid temple]

Not sure, no notifications, it's loading okay, just won't publish my shit

[velvet narwhal]

oh is it the perpetual gear time

[rancid temple]

Like the third mod where I've just had to leave and come back some other time

[velvet narwhal]

server status says it's okay so iunno

[rancid temple]

Guess they just don't want my mods

[tiny zealot]

thought i was going to have a nice, easy, fun time making a fun little mod as a treat. Turns Out™️ it is more complicated than i would like

[hidden tartan]

what language is sdv mod written in?

[velvet narwhal]

c# or json for content patcher

!startmodding

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[hidden tartan]

oh ok thx

c# seems annoying to learn

:(

[rancid temple]

How's that YAML thing going?

[velvet narwhal]

linkoid did a pretty good one

lemme get his fork

[tiny zealot]

published, as far as i know

[rancid temple]

C# is relatively easy, as far as programming languages go

[velvet narwhal]

https://github.com/linkoid/Custom-NPC-Edelweiss-YAML/tree/master/data

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/27472

[round dock]

Congratulations on the cheeto avi!!!

[rancid temple]

Robin Build Position is a mod for mod creators that lets you set a custom position for Robin to stand while she upgrades or constructs buildings.
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/27753

[velvet narwhal]

brb gotta throw robin into the ocean

[rancid temple]

I considered also making it so you can flip her sprite and stop the sound from playing, but those both required patching more methods so I figured I'd hold off until someone specifically asked for it lol

[velvet narwhal]

tbh the sound is what makes the brain tingle so i doubt the latter will be asked for

[rancid temple]

@noble jolt #making-mods-general message

I did take a look at the shed's scaffolding and that's yet another hardcoded map patch lol

Only other thing I was thinking might be fun to add was making it so it would collect any number of coordinate pairs and randomly choose between them

Have her stand in a different spot each day

[old edge]

are the volcanodungeon maps not in the map files?

[velvet narwhal]

they're in the mines folder

you should be able to target them just like all the other .pngs though

wait i lied

<image source="Mines/volcano_caldera" width="144" height="320"/> this is their redirect

[old edge]

but I need the map files

.tmx

[tiny zealot]

yeah, they're not maps like the rest of the game. they're images, and the maps are built from them in code i think

[old edge]

yeah hmm I'm thinking of implementing lava but I think I'll just opt for the caldera version of lava.

[tiny zealot]

i do not know why. CA is mysterious sometimes

[rancid temple]

The most chaotic way to build them

[velvet narwhal]

~randomization~

[old edge]

without the extra code for the watering can tile hardening ability

[calm nebula]

(For mapgen it's not bad.)

(How often has it produced an invalid layout for you?)

[velvet narwhal]

i think i've only legitimately delved volcano dungeon like, 3 times all were correct layouts

[calm nebula]

It's surprisingly unglitchy

[rancid temple]

I think I've only had one time where I thought I was stuck but it just happened to be a real pain in the ass layout

[calm nebula]

Given how stardew maps work, it's pretty awesome

Anyways, a png is a perfectly valid way to encode 2d info

[velvet narwhal]

i need to make this trigger action before i forget about it in roughly 7 minutes

[calm nebula]

Remind @velvet narwhal in 7 minutes to make that trigger action

[patent lance]

[remember what they said in anger management...deep breaths...] YES I WOULD BE SO HAPPY TO ASSIST (#6240644) (7m | <t:1726283605>)

[velvet narwhal]

i'mma just use that reminder to tell me to get a snack

[heady relic]

So I just noticed that you can place floor tiles underneath the edges of buildings now. Is that a new stardew thing, or a mod thing?

[next plaza]

1.6 vanilla

[heady relic]

my farm looks so much cleaner now, i love it

[rancid temple]

There's a setting in the building data

I actually forgot, I didn't see it on the wiki, was gonna add it

[patent lance]

@velvet narwhal: make that trigger action (7m ago) [Requested by atravita]

[teal bridge]

ButtonCollection considers thumbstick directional movements to be "button presses", but does not consider stick presses to be "button presses".

Makes ya think.

(Also, because of this, functions like Game1.isAnyGamePadButtonBeingHeld() exclude the stick presses.)

[pine elbow]

Hello guys!
I have one question... ¿Why my event isn't trigger? (sorry for my bad english...)

"LogName": "Souldragon Events",
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/Events/Woods.json",
"Entries":
{
"11245968/F/w sunny/e spring24/t 1000 1600/y 1": "woodsTheme/8 10/Ghastdev_Souldragon 8 10 2 farmer 8 17 0/skippable/pause 500/animate Ghastdev_Souldragon true true 250 18 18 27 27 26 26 25 25 24 24 43 43 42 42 40 40 41 41 40 40 43 43 47 47 46 46 43 43/jump Ghastdev_Souldragon/44 44/jump Ghastdev_Souldragon/43 43/jump Ghastdev_Souldragon/45 45/stopAnimation Ghastdev_Souldragon 45/pause 500/emote Ghastdev_Souldragon 40/pause 1000/emote Ghastdev_Souldragon 60/pause 500/shake Ghastdev_Souldragon 1000/animate Ghastdev_Souldragon true true 200 43 43 24 24 25 25 26 26 27 27 18 18/stopAnimation Ghastdev_Souldragon 18/fade/viewport -1000 -1000/end",
}
},

[velvet narwhal]

change your data/events/woods.json to just Woods

[old edge]

I didn't know we couldn't use 2 tiledata on top of each other?

[pine elbow]

I've tried that but doesn't work...

[velvet narwhal]

you have a separate event called spring24? or did you just want that to be the specific day?

[pine elbow]

That event it's "Floral dance"

[velvet narwhal]

there's also a bunch of the 44 44 marks that i don't have context for, those need specific commands

[pine elbow]

Oh...

I'm ret***d

xD

[velvet narwhal]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Event_data#Event_scripts
https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tips_for_Making_Events_from_a_Novice_by_LenneDalben
https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Anatomy_of_an_Event

[pine elbow]

Wait a minute hahah

[velvet narwhal]

also, if you made a prior event, the e command is for requiring that a specific <event ID> has to have been watched at least once

[pine elbow]

Yeah

I'm on Spring 25

But those "44" marks are some sprite animation

[teal bridge]

@lucid iron and anyone else using SDUI - wanted to give a quick heads up about a breaking change I just pushed. I try to avoid doing this type of thing, but access to SMAPI's helpers got too important to ignore, so where you used to do this in ModEntry:

Logger.Monitor = Monitor;

It should now be:

UI.Initialize(helper, Monitor);

It's just the one line difference. I recommend putting it with I18n.Initialize assuming you use that.

(P.S. With all these changes, I may have forgotten an import or two; if you happen to get a compilation error with the shared project, let me know.)

[velvet narwhal]

so you want it to only trigger on spring 24?
you can do it two ways: the event commands like how you have w sunny you need to put in Season Spring/u 24
the other way is a "When" condition,
you'd put that like this:

"Target": "Data/Events/Woods",
"When": {
"Season": "Spring",
"Day": "24"
},```

[pine elbow]

Hmm, ok. i go to try this

[velvet narwhal]

also, if you've ever used debug ebi <EVENT ID> in the SMAPI console it marks it as seen, so you would need a new save or reload to see it activate 'correctly'

[lucid iron]

oh did u have csproj using for Color and SButton

[teal bridge]

There's a specific using for Color, and SButton is part of the SMAPI import. If I forgot it in one or two files, let me know which ones...

[pine elbow]

Oh, thanks so much

Ily!

[teal bridge]

It's a bit hard for me to track it down since the shared project isn't compilable by itself, and all the projects I use it in have those implicit usings. (This is why I was asking Casey the other day about including assemblies directly, hoping I can find a long-term alternative to the submodule/projitems).

[pine elbow]

I'm on the way of "New developer" xD, sorry for bother you

And thanks for you time

[teal bridge]

(If there were some way to set up VS/dotnet to use the implicit usings only for my path, and not the SDUI submodule path, I would definitely do it to make sure that project stays squeaky clean. As it is, I haven't found a way.)

[lucid iron]

StardewUI/src/Widgets/Keybinding/KeybindListEditor.cs - SButton, Color
StardewUI/src/Widgets/Keybinding/KeybindView.cs - Color
StardewUI/src/Widgets/Keybinding/XeluButtonSpriteMap.cs - SButton
StardewUI/src/Spacer.cs - Vector2

[teal bridge]

Ok, done, those should all be taken care of now. Thanks for the report.

[lucid iron]

i dont have smarter way besides making bogus test proj without the implicit usings to quickly check

[teal bridge]

Yeah, I guess that's what I should be doing too. Just an empty template with a submodule.

[lucid iron]

ah there r more for Game1 and Utility on rebuild, i assumed compiler would catch all of em first pass

KeybindOverlay.cs and KeybindView.cs

[faint ingot]

Does the ice fishing festival not accept y2 positions for the 'main event'?

[lucid iron]

ok no more after i added the using locally

[faint ingot]

I have this and it applies the y2 dialogue and y2 initial positions but uses the y1 main event positions instead of y2. ``` //Festival of Ice
{
"Action": "EditData",
"Target": "Data/Festivals/winter8",
"TextOperations": [
{
"Operation": "Append",
"Target": [
"Entries",
"Set-Up_additionalCharacters"
],
"Value": "Shannon 65 46 0/Russell 82 32 3",
"Delimiter": "/"
},
{
"Operation": "Append",
"Target": [
"Entries",
"Main-Event_additionalCharacters"
],
"Value": "Russell 80 29 3/Shannon 66 44 0",
"Delimiter": "/"
},
//year 2
{
"Operation": "Append",
"Target": [
"Entries",
"Set-Up_additionalCharacters_y2"
],
"Value": "Russell 83 36 0/Shannon 62 43 3",
"Delimiter": "/"
},
{
"Operation": "Append",
"Target": [
"Entries",
"MainEvent_additionalCharacters_y2"
],

                "Value": "Russell 78 29 3/Shannon 62 43 0",
                "Delimiter": "/"
            },
            
        ],
        "Entries": {
            "Shannon": "{{i18n:festivals.shannon.winter8}}",
            "Russell": "{{i18n:festivals.russell.winter8}}",
            "Shannon_y2": "{{i18n:festivals.shannon.winter8.y2}}",
            "Russell_y2": "{{i18n:festivals.russell.winter8.y2}}",
        }
    },```

[teal bridge]

Just set up a dummy mod and verified the same, should be alright now.

This has been one hell of a yak-shaving, headache-inducing few days, I never expected to have to write so much more code for such a "simple" use case. Wonder if KC went through the same pain on that part of GMCM.

[lucid iron]

what is the new feature?

i gathered something to do with key binding?

[teal bridge]

Figured it was obvious from the file names.

Yes, it's a keybind viewer/editor. Guess it's mainly going to be applicable to custom settings UIs and not typical in-game stuff.

[plucky reef]

Is there a particular reason to use tmx over tbin or is it just best practice? I'm trying to modernize my map mod.

[velvet narwhal]

tmx has reflective tile properties, which means you won't need to add multiple tilesheets just because you wanted to rotate a sprite or reflect it

[lucid iron]

you can just open tbin in tiled and save as tmx i think

[plucky reef]

oh no way it's that easy

[velvet narwhal]

yeah forwards capability

well export as tmx

[lucid iron]

the features of tmx r like, use if you want

[plucky reef]

nice alright. I can otherwise keep my CP content files the same for warps?

[velvet narwhal]

i don't remember if it was because i did something stupid, or my tiledata got corrupted, but it ate a good 3/4ths of my tiledata and left only a handful when it was a .tbin

[lucid iron]

hm you maybe want to change custom locations to proper Data/Location entry

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Location_data

[plucky reef]

it is a farm map so I don't think I have any of those.

[lucid iron]

if you were replacing a default farm before it can be additional farm now

[plucky reef]

oh yeah that needs to get done.

and SVDE updated a lot of their maps so I have to redo all those warps

[lucid iron]

i think sve kept the names

[faint ingot]

jumping through dates on a test farm for QC'ing festivals and grandpa's ghost caught me by surprise. 1 candle

[lucid iron]

or maybe used FormerLocationNames?

[plucky reef]

well the coords, for some reason I put a lot of backwoods warps in here. I'll try pulling them out

[lucid iron]

oh yea the bus stop is bigger in 1.6

rmbr to fix that one or people will lose krobus event

[plucky reef]

and it needs a new name, "mini" seems to be the new standard for maps the size of a postage stamp and this one is about a third the size of the standard.

[lucid iron]

what does it look like

[plucky reef]

I haven't touched it in about a year so it needs some tuning but the circled red parts are the big trunk and big rock that block the other areas of the farm, so you have to upgrade your tools to unlock the full space.

and then this.... I need to redo this because it has miscolored beach section and hide the swimsuit change section but it's a hot tub. It's supposed to have a blocker on it but I could not get it to spawn. There isn't a rock that requires pickaxe upgrade 1, is there?

[lucid iron]

its too big for mini but just right for small

[rare prawn]

Can someone please help me figure out why this SpaceCore error is popping up and what I have to fix to make it go away?
https://smapi.io/log/1c62563b09834f5888b4bb76d4b33fad

This my code currently:

https://smapi.io/json/none/e4688fce2f164e84b488f3a06713199f

Screenshot of SMAPI error as preview:
https://i.imgur.com/jHp7JMu.png

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.0.8 with SDV 1.6.8 build 24119 on Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, with 116 C# mods and 324 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[rare prawn]

This is the exterior section where I have the SpaceCore code:

    {
      "LogName": "Load Daphne's ice cream truck exterior",
      "Action": "Load",
      "Target": "Buildings/DaphnesIceCreamTruck",
      "FromFile": "Assets/IceCreamTruck.png"
    },
    {
      "LogName": "Change Daphne's ice cream truck exterior",
      "Action": "EditData",
      "Target": "spacechase0.SpaceCore/TextureOverrides",
      "Entries": {
        "Wabi.IceCreamTruckCP_Buildings/DaphnesIceCreamTruck": {
          "TargetTexture": "Buildings/DaphnesIceCreamTruck",
          "TargetRect": {
            "X": 0,
            "Y": 0,
            "Width": 96,
            "Height": 64
          },
          "SourceTexture": "{{InternalAssetKey: Assets/IceCreamTruck_{{Ice Cream Truck Colour}}_{{Season}}.png}}: 0@35, 1@5, 2@5, 1@5"
        }
      }
    }```

[lucid iron]

it looks like you loaded the texture, so i think SourceTexture should be Buildings/DaphnesIceCreamTruck rather than internal asset key

[rare prawn]

Ty! I will try that >:3

It worked >:3 now I can diagnose the other issues hehe

tytytyty

[brave fable]

is there a 1.6.9 beta thread at all? just wondering if there's a dedicated place to discuss

[velvet narwhal]

uh probably the forums if it's bugrelated?

[calm nebula]

(Fwiw

1. AtraBase, which is also a submodule, used to catch me off guard with nuget package requirements all the time. The only real blessing was that it intentionally did not reference game or game related code. I also started but never finished unit tests for it. (I really should do that. The point of AtraBase is that it's just generically useful c# tidbits.)
2. You can just make a nuget package. But it doesn't work well because smapi loads the first, not the newest, version of an assembly. So if you and someone else use the same nuget, get used to coordination where you all have to update that assembly at the same time. Shockah made a PR that gives every mod it's own assembly context which would have fixed this particular issue.
   )

[lucid mulch]

From memory that shockah pr merged and is in the 1.6.9 beta builds, would need to double check

[calm nebula]

I think so too

[lucid mulch]

Yeah double checked it's in the release notes

[calm nebula]

Forgot how it works, do you have to opt in or opt out?

[lucid mulch]

Need to explicitly opt into it in the manifest

On a per dependency basis

[calm nebula]

Would be interesting to see it used 😛

[lucid mulch]

Note that fun things happen with it too, as multiple mods using the same private dependency will have independent static values

[calm nebula]

Lol. Don't do it to harmony

[lucid mulch]

Docs explicitly call out harmony as the example of when you really shouldn't

[calm nebula]

I mean it makes sense as to why statics wouldn't be shared

[proud wyvern]

not that people should ever include Harmony with their mods

also it probably wouldn't break Harmony, it's made to be resilient against that kind of thing

[faint remnant]

Does anyone know how to get the lights to hook up correctly(I've tried just increasing brightness on the tilesheet but that doesn't cut it) I can't figure out how to get the lights in paths tilesheet(p) to light the room. I'm sure I just don't know a basic thing but can't find it in https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps

[vernal crest]

Does it work if you set the lights in the map properties instead of using the Paths tiles?

[faint remnant]

Not familiar with setting map properties is that done in the console? It is giving me ReferenceError: Light is not defined

[vernal crest]

Nope it's done in tiled! If you go up to the menu up the top and click on "Map" then "properties" (I think, going from memory) it should open the map properties. If you based this on a vanilla map you might already have some lights defined in there.

[faint remnant]

Huge thank you! Didnt know that menu existed, This all makes way more sense now. That worked!

[vernal crest]

Yay!

[merry rampart]

how do I trigger an event so I can see it without having met the conditions? testing an npc event and the debug ebi command doesn't do it

I do have event repeater installed. I'm just not sure what the input command is and I can't find anything about it on its github page

[velvet narwhal]

if you can't trigger it with debug ebi then something in the event code is wrong

does smapi give an error that it doesn't exist?

[merry rampart]

no

no errors

i teleport to the location but the event doesnt trigger

[velvet narwhal]

are you using a custom location?

[merry rampart]

no. it's at the beach

[velvet narwhal]

i'd say throw the event json here

[merry rampart]

it might be because it depends on another event to trigger, now that i take a closer look at the console commands list...

[velvet narwhal]

debug ebi circumvents all of it

[merry rampart]

i managed to get it to trigger. idk what i did but...

[hallow prism]

yeah debug ebi test the event even if conditions aren't met, as long as it currently exists

(it can't test an event that is behind a "when" condition that isn't fulfilled for ex, because then the event doesn't exist)

[velvet narwhal]

ah yeah when conditions force it to not exist, all of my conditions are in the event script just so people can look at it through event lookup

[lucid mulch]

in general, cp when conditions should be done as last resort, or on stuff that won't change like HasMod

also causes multiplayer issues if it is a broadcast event, as it can only broadcast if the other clients know the event exists

[calm nebula]

Playing moded mp sounds like signing up to do a lot of debugging

[merry rampart]

that is good to know

ill try not to use it if i can avoid it

[worn coral]

I'm trying to swap out a wallpaper tilesheet I'm adding via CP to Data/AdditionalWallpaperFlooring using a config setup schema but having some odd behaviour.

Exmple: default loads the "cotton" background, new choice made via GMCM should load the "forest" one - catalogue sees the change and now shows the forest version rather than cotton, but farmhouse still only loads from the cotton one.

Here's my content json: https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/0f043ced8cde46788089e46a957635a5

I tried: leave and re-enter, sleep to trigger new day update, patch reload, with no change. Not sure if swapping them out via config is just something that might not work with the wallpapers in the farmhouse?

[untold nymph]

When not handling a button pressed event, is there any way to check if a given key is pressed?

OK found it

[drowsy pewter]

what happens if you place it down again?

there are a rare handful of textures which cannot be updated dynamically; farmer base being the one i know of. so that might be whats happening

[worn coral]

Placing the wallpaper down after the config change (with the new version visible in the catalogue) does change it to whatever I select but it still loads from the old tilesheet (the tilesheets are identical except for the bg color atm so it's technically the right pattern/index, but wrong color)

[drowsy pewter]

farmhouse shenanigans

[worn coral]

What I failed to test, because of course I forget the most obvious thing, was to restart it with the changed config - that does force the change, but that's going to be probably too much to ask users to do to swap wallpaper sets mid game I was trying to not spam the catalogue with too many variants but looks like it won't work the way I hoped - I'll have to think of something else

[drowsy pewter]

make your own catalogue item?

i feel like players may want to mix and match different colors anyways

[lucid iron]

Imo it's fine to just have color variants as separate wallpaper

[worn coral]

I was planning to get a separate catalogue as well, but including it in the Happy Home Designer would spam that as well (and at the moment I have over 600 variants with 5 wood recolors and 4 bg colors) - maybe I just need to trim down the choices in that case

[drowsy pewter]

i dont think that telling players to restart if they want to change the config is a big deal

we used to always have to do that

[lucid iron]

But u can perhaps offer config to turn off certain wallpaper variants

[drowsy pewter]

smart

[lucid iron]

Dunno how that affects already applied wallpaper though

[drowsy pewter]

it would just pull a vanilla texture if it cant find the custom item

[calm nebula]

Fwiw I would not remoce the actual wallpaper item

[worn coral]

That could work - I did try loading multiple tilesheets at first so people could tick which ones they want to load, but the data edit action was complaining about the ID (had to match the mod id so it ended up loading only the first tilesheet and skip others) - is there a way to something like that in a another way?

[calm nebula]

Instead. Recommend just removing from shops/catalog

[calm nebula]

These are really pretty!!!

[worn coral]

Thank you @velvet narwhal requested some wallpapers to match a sample of furniture I posted the other day and I went a bit nuts with patterns - but it was fun to make! (but yeah 600+ options now!)

[lucid iron]

Unsure I understand what you mean here

[worn coral]

This is what I tried to do before https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/8810df96f679416e91233adaa76a6b4f

[lucid iron]

Oh yeah just suffix the id

{{ModId}}_Blossom and so on

[worn coral]

Yeah I tried it, SMAPI did not like

Let me dig out the error..

[rancid temple]

Love waking up to a fresh new bug report with no log and no helpful information

[worn coral]

Sorry, this is the json with the suffix in the entry https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/9f68bcc7540b49fd987ff29b30021541 and the error - it looks like it is looking specifically for an ID that matches the mod ID (ignoring the ones with the suffix?)

[vernal crest]

Time to pretend you didn't see it

[rancid temple]

Lol, if they don't provide a log and more info, that's just going to be what happens because I can't recreate the issue

[worn coral]

Huh, well this is a new one for me - it works in game, but does throw the red errors at the same time?? And it does actually dynamically add the tilesheets!?

[vernal crest]

Ooh speaking of useless bug reports Roku did you end up fixing the issue with custom locks and sve? I noticed that I cannot enter houses outside the allowed times and my memory of what actually happened with it is hazy.

[rancid temple]

SVE should be fine I think? It was DTZ

[vernal crest]

Oh lol

See how hazy

[rancid temple]

And I can't do anything about that, because Harvz doesn't have a public repo for me to make a PR on

He's been made aware of the issue, but I dunno if he has any intention of fixing it

[oak dragon]

Hi everyone I'm new here.After reading source code of some populay mods, I found some of them save assets in folder (such as .png), but others use directly the game texture. I want to know which is recommended? thanks a lot!!(English is not my first language excuseme :C)

[vernal crest]

Oh okay cool that's fine I just warp inside them anyway I just couldn't remember if there was a fix that I should've gotten but didn't lol

[rancid temple]

The only thing I can really think to do is make my own prefix that specifically checks if DTZ is installed and only runs then lmao

With a way higher priority

[uncut viper]

People put custom assets that they made in their assets folders if they need them, otherwise I'm not 100% sure what you mean by using directly the game texture

[rancid temple]

I could reflection patch his prefix, but that lies the way of insanity

[vernal crest]

I think if you're not getting inundated with bug reports about it, don't bother (unless you'd enjoy doing so lol)

[rancid temple]

So far I think it's only been one or two people, so not a big deal

If I ever do a playthrough where I use DTZ I guess I'll cook something up then

[lucid iron]

Cotton one is fine but for blossom the key has to be changed as well

"{{ModId}}": {
          "ID": "{{ModId}}_blossom",

[vernal crest]

If you're talking about people who include vanilla assets in their own mod files - that is bad practice done by people who don't know better (usually).

[rancid temple]

There are some edge cases where it's unavoidable, but generally should be avoided