making-mods-general

[lone ice]

That's so much funnier hahaha

your joke was good

[woeful lintel]

thanks

[rancid temple]

The prismatic effect in game is just a color tint, so the base sprites would have to be grayscale

[lone ice]

which would be fine, but I understand that it's not hardcoded to apply to anything other than like, farmer clothes or slimes

[rancid temple]

I think it's kind of considered expensive to render too

[drowsy pewter]

so you want a bug that changes colors in a rainbow

[rancid temple]

Since it requires changing the color 60 times a second

[drowsy pewter]

You can just make an animated bug with Spacecore

[lone ice]

mod?

[drowsy pewter]

spacecore provides a framework for animating any texture via the CP format

no need to bother with draw functions and overlays or whatever

[lone ice]

ooh

thanks, i'll look into that

that would actually be better too because I have them set as forage in the Woods but a static butterfly looks bad

[queen valley]

Is there a way to tell Lookup Anything to put machine recipe inputs in a different order (perhaps enforce Fuel being first)? Im experimenting with adding new ores and it looks pretty silly to see Chrome Ore x5 + Coal when every other recipe is Coal + Some Ore x5

[velvet narwhal]

i wish i could auto sync between translation files for any new things i've added without deleting preexisting, had to manually compare

[woeful lintel]

is it not based on the order the ingredients are in the data?

[faint remnant]

I'm getting this error when trying to add an interior to a new building MissingMethodException: Constructor on type 'StardewValley.AnimalHouse' not found. does anyone know how to fix this or what I could be doing wrong?

[queen valley]

It looks like they are going in alphabetical order, rather than based on the order in the data

[grand gale]

I'm trying to make a FTM pack, is there a file or something I can see the iridium ore spawn settings to reference?

[royal nimbus]

how would one go about loading in new textures for certain areas in the map? example, i want to edit the textures in spouse rooms but they use some shared textures from other indoor places. this here shows the spouse rooms and on the right is a house having been effected by the texture change which i dont want.

[rancid temple]

You can't patch the base sheet only for some places in the same map

[royal nimbus]

if it cant be done i will just have to sacrifice some of the changes i want. i figured with modding tho that anything is possible

[rancid temple]

You would need to make your own sheet and patch in your changes over the map you want to change in the spots you want to change

[royal nimbus]

ah okay

how do i go about that? is it very complicated?

[rancid temple]

No, just create a sheet with all the tiles you want. Create a copy of the spouse rooms tmx and edit it, add a tileset using that sheet, make sure to embed it

Make your changes and then move your tmx and tilesheet into your mods folder and create a patch that patches the base game spouse rooms and loads your tilesheet into Maps

[royal nimbus]

i think ive seen something like this done before. so like copy the entire png, and cut out everything that's not included right?

[rancid temple]

Loading your tilesheet is optional if you want it to be able to be recolored

Uh, I'm not sure I understand what you mean, sounds like you're talking about creating an overlay patch for a base tilesheet for recoloring

Which, no not that

[royal nimbus]

bare with me as i can be a bit slow with learning and understanding these things. so make the png, load it into the spouse rooms tmx and save it?

[noble jolt]

So I took care of my Robin issue with the greenhouse but just making the map space bigger lol... Now I just have to figure out how to get crops to move from the regular greenhouse to the upgraded version.

[lucid iron]

can you make the dirt tiles match in coordinates

[rancid temple]

So this is my custom tilesheet for a map I made, it's like additional tiles that have my own edits but that I don't want to overwrite the original tiles everywhere

[royal nimbus]

ah so it can just be small and simple then.

[rancid temple]

In your case, since you're editing an existing map, you wanna make a copy of it

Of the map I mean

So copy spouseRooms.tmx and name it something else, I usually still put z_ in front of all my maps so they're grouped together near the bottom

Then open that in Tiled

[noble jolt]

Well, I placed them in the same area, which gets larger, but that shouldn't matter since it's still dirt, i think.

[royal nimbus]

okay. got it. so i just need to make the png for the spesfic tiles now rq

[rancid temple]

Yep

Oh right, I was thinking about making a mod to set custom locations for Robin to show up when working on a building

[calm nebula]

Good morn

[noble jolt]

hewwo

[calm nebula]

Do it

[noble jolt]

Yes, that would be nice

lol

i'll have her hanging on the wall

[rancid temple]

I was able to move her without harmony transpiling, so that was nice, just trying to decide what the best way to get her desired location would be, buildings data has a custom fields

[noble jolt]

you'd have to be able to add it in right?

[rancid temple]

Yeah, ideally I want it to be something that is just already part of the CP process

[noble jolt]

yeah, would be super nice for people like me who can't/won't learn C#

[rancid temple]

So when making your buildings data, my idea is that in the custom fields you'd put something like "rokugin.robinlocation 5 5" and my mod would look for that in the buildings data and set her position based on it

Though I need to make sure custom fields works like that

[noble jolt]

maybe a way to select if she's on a scaffold or not would be nice, if it isn't not too big of a pita

[rancid temple]

That's in the shed right? I don't think I've ever built one of those lmao

[noble jolt]

yeah, in the shed

there's like a plank held up by two ropes

[lucid iron]

u can use TryGetMapPropertyAs

[rancid temple]

Oh interesting, the Self Serve mod is broken in 1.6.9 when Robin is building something

[lucid iron]

theres an overload for point and one for vector

[rancid temple]

Hm, yeah, I could do that though I'm not sure if that's less obtuse lol

For the user I mean

[lucid iron]

idk i feel having map position thing associated with the tmx makes the most sense

plus theres cp stuff to edit this without tmx too

[royal nimbus]

im making the png and honestly these are so tricky to work with because its hard to tell a lot of the time what parts are used where.

[lucid iron]

open tiled and right click with the stamp tool

[rancid temple]

You could take your recolor set up and just copy the tiles into a new png

Though, I assumed you would already have something like this for doing a recolor

Maybe with more blank spaces or something

Depending on your patch mode

[royal nimbus]

this is what it looks like so far

[royal nimbus]

yo ty. i will check that out. i may end up having to watch a tutorial on it

[rancid temple]

This is your new png or the recolor one you'd been using?

[royal nimbus]

thats the new one

[rancid temple]

Well, as long as you're okay with the placement of those things, I tighten my tilesheets up because I don't like a long travel time to find the tiles I want

[royal nimbus]

right yeah. well im not sure how placement and such works so thats why i just copied the original and cut out what doesnt belong.

im sure this needs work tho as im missing things and prob have some things that might not go there

[rancid temple]

Placement doesn't matter for a custom sheet

[royal nimbus]

its just it for now

oohhhh

good to kno

[noble jolt]

so if I have the code do this for the upgrade, the map doesn't change. JSON "NonInstancedIndoorLocation": "Greenhouse", "IndoorMap": "{{ModId}}_IGH",
If I do this JSON "NonInstancedIndoorLocation": null, "IndoorMap": "{{ModId}}_IGH",
the map applies, but the plant's don't transfer. and if I try JSON "NonInstancedIndoorLocation": "{{ModId}}_IGH", "IndoorMap": "{{ModId}}_IGH", smapi get angry.

[rancid temple]

You're basically creating your own stamp pallet

[royal nimbus]

okay

[rancid temple]

You just want to avoid making changes to a sheet you're already using

Unless you like redoing entire maps

[royal nimbus]

well first im gonna have to edit the original png to having the original textures back

nah im not gonna redo entire maps. thats too much lol. i just like to edit some textures here and there

[noble jolt]

So I'm guessing I need to make my map apply as a "NonInstancedIndoorLocation" just not sure where I should targt for that.

[rancid temple]

Yeah, I suggest always making backups of things before editing them

[royal nimbus]

im gonna have to get back to this as i need to do somethings rn

im just glad to kno its not too complicated of a process

[rancid temple]

So NonInstancedIndoorLocation can only be used by a single location at a time

Setting it to Greenhouse doesn't work because Greenhouse is already in use by a location

I'm not sure if you'll be able to move plants between maps with just CP

There's the IndoorItemMoves field, you could try that

You would need to set up an entry for every single tile

Oh wait, there's a Size field

Yeah, so you can try that, but if it doesn't work then I'm pretty sure you'd need C# in order to move the crops

[noble jolt]

Do crops count as items in that sense though? In the other building entries it's like the incubator in the coop.

[rancid temple]

That's why I'm not sure if it'll work, I don't really think they do

[noble jolt]

Sadly.

[rancid temple]

Only really one way to find out though

[lucid iron]

crops are terrain feature

[noble jolt]

That's what I thought, especailly the digdirt part or however it's actually called.

there is a "CustomFields" section, i'm just not sure how that would apply.

[rancid temple]

Custom fields doesn't do anything on its own

[noble jolt]

Right

[rancid temple]

A C# mod can read it and do something based on what it finds there

[noble jolt]

hmmm

[lucid iron]

i feel like you should just make sure the new dirt area entirely covers the old dirt area

[rancid temple]

I don't know if that'll work, upgrading is changing locations entirely isn't it?

[noble jolt]

It does

[lucid iron]

make sure u dont extend the map upwards n stuff

[rancid temple]

So the crops that exist in the first location won't exist in the second location

[lucid iron]

i have no clue really, possible that u just lose all crops yes

which is preferable to crops growing out of bounds at least

[rancid temple]

If it were a map patch then it would be fine

But it's through the building upgrade system

[noble jolt]

yeah

it goes from this with the highlighted corner at 29 11

to this with the highlighted corner at 27 9

so that smaller area would be entirely in the new bigger dirt area

making the top one the greenhouse map also made it so you don't see Robin working.

but yes, i think because it's an upgrade it becomes an entirely different area.

I may have to have the letter Robin sends just have a warning about the upgrades making the crops get removed or something

[plucky reef]

can I do a knockback effect without having it attached to a weapon?

[rancid temple]

You'll probably want the warning in a few places just so that you also still have to explain to people who won't read your warnings

[noble jolt]

Yeah, I'll put it on the mod page whenever I add that, and in the letter I have her mail after you get the greenhouse.

Not sure where else I could put it.

[lucid iron]

u can call GameLocation.damageMonster directly

it takes a knockBackModifier param

[rancid temple]

Stickied post in your Posts tab if you have one I guess lol

[noble jolt]

true

I may have to give in and push myself to learn C#

[plucky reef]

sick ok.
Funny that I started this trying to decide whether to do a damage field or a projectile, and now I'm trying to decide whether to do a damage field or a weapon swing.
I was doing art for the harpsword and can't get it look right, so a friend suggested a "play the harp and soundwaves hit the monster" and that sounded really cool.

[rancid temple]

Oh also, there's a file description you can set on the download page lol

Hm, if I use CustomFields I can also change her position on the outside of buildings

Farmhouse is separate from even all that nonsense lol

Same for community upgrades

[heady relic]

trying my hand at pixel art for the first time, making a mustard seed crop

The game is severely lacking in winter crops, especially given how many crops apparently thrive over the winter. Depending on how it looks when it's actually growing I might add some blue in there to mimic frost

[pastel otter]

Hello! I'm new to the discord and new to modding and have an 'idiot question'
If I was to replace the meadowlands map with a smaller map do I have to do anything special to ensure the coop appears? IE would I have to delve further into the game code rather than the basic map.tmx content patch that the wiki shows?

[next plaza]

Coop is hard coded to appear at the position it does on the Meadowlands

[pastel otter]

Ah, so if there was a clash or the map was too small it would explain the errors I'm getting that I don't understand?

[next plaza]

Perhaps, hard to say without seeing the error (and I'm at work so can't look into much at the moment)

SpaceCore lets you add a coop to new farm types (or other buildings) - there's another framework too but I'm forgetting the name at the moment

[pastel otter]

No it's fine, I think I halved the map size from default so it definitely explains it and gives me a place to re-start from 🙂

[rancid temple]

My brain reading this as co-op the entire time wondering what the hell is wrong with multiplayer on a smaller map

[pastel otter]

Haha sorry! I'll re-do the map, look into spacecore for a new 🐣 coop then have the mod switch a different map out so I don't clash with the hardcoded location in Meadowlands. Thank you so much 🙏

[rancid temple]

Is there a reason to avoid just adding a new farm?

[finite ginkgo]

You don't have to override any of the vanilla farms, you can add your own

[rancid temple]

In fact, Meadowlands is already an entry in the additional farms data lol

[pastel otter]

I'm just making the map for me and I'm lazy/switching seems easier than writing the minimal additional lines of code

and I don't use the river map

If I was to ever put it into Nexus etc I'd abolutely learn how to do it properly

[rancid temple]

Well, as long as it's a choice and not just because you think it's the only way

[plucky reef]

Back when I did my custom map it required overwriting one of the originals, can they just be added on now?

[rancid temple]

Yep Data/AdditionalFarms

[next plaza]

You've been able to make new farm types since 1.5.5 I think

[pastel otter]

You can do a mod folder located swap, then just . out he mod when you want the original one back

[plucky reef]

I need to update that then, I should publish it.

[next plaza]

Docs: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Migrate_to_Stardew_Valley_1.5.5#Custom_farm_types

[pastel otter]

Thank you again!

[brittle pasture]

It is sorted alphabetically yeah, which makes sense for crafting/etc but not so much for machines. I actually have a pending pull request to LA that makes the primary trigger item always the first in the list

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/pull/1027

[queen valley]

Thanks for the info =]

I guess Ill look forward to that PR, lol

[torpid crystal]

hi! does anyone know a mod that automatically craft something?

it would be DOPE for an Automate gameplay session, since i wanna start a resturant, but im lazy

[rancid temple]

#modded-stardew would probably be a better place to ask, this channel is generally for the creation of mods

[torpid crystal]

oh ok thank you

[royal nimbus]

hey whats the command to see ppl to commission for coding? im so iffy about looking up commission stuff with how many scammers there are

[plucky reef]

!commissions

[ocean sail]

If you're looking for people who do mod commissions (either art or code), here's a wiki page with a non-comprehensive list of people who do them: https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Stardew_Mod_Commissions

To use this command, type !commissions.

[royal nimbus]

tysm

[brittle ledge]

I think Kedi's the main person doing C# comms but she's well regarded in the community. Non-C#, Aster I believe is on hiatus but Ark and Thylak are also well-known.

[formal crown]

I have been summoned

[heady relic]

I'm attempting to add a new production rule to the Preserves Jar, and it includes AdditionalConsumedItems. Does anyone know if it's possible to make this input-specific rather than machine-wide?

[lucid iron]

You need extra machine config for that

[formal crown]

Extra Machine Configs may be allowing that, but I'm sure not possible with vanilla

[lucid iron]

If vanilla then u just gotta make new machine I think

[heady relic]

Yeah, making a new machine would probably be easier, but it seems silly just to have a machine that only makes mustard

Oh my god I could add other condiments I'm so stupid. Tomatoes exist too.

[lucid iron]

Mushroom ketchup

[heady relic]

Looks like Extra Machine Config is exactly what I was looking for, thank you!

[rancid temple]

Trying to decide what would make more sense for a user. For buildings with an interior, Robin's position is set based on tile coordinates, so that's really straightforward. Buildings without an interior, her position is set based on pixel coordinate offsets. Currently have it so a positive X value goes right and a positive Y value goes down. This feels wrong to me, but I think it makes sense if you compare it to tile coordinates

[uncut viper]

i think the consistency with the rest of the game (and most 2d games i believe) would make it better than going against the grain there, bc odds are the hypothetical user is not going to only be using your mod in a vacuum and doing nothing else with SDV modding ever

[rancid temple]

Yeah it's also designed as a companion to normal building modding, so hopefully they already know what they're doing lol

I do wonder where 0, 0 is in pixel coordinates

[lucid iron]

Most drawing applications have 0x0 in top left corner I think

So positive -> go down makes a lot of sense

[rancid temple]

Yeah, the tile coordinates work like that, that's how I had the math originally because I figured it made the most sense compared to the tile coordinates

[uncut viper]

positive Y going up in a 2d game would be the weird one out for me

[rancid temple]

I just hate it when I'm thinking about the math behind the scense lol

[heady relic]

so I'm getting this, but I don't see any field labeled action on the wiki modding page for machines

[Content Patcher] Ignored Yumiko's Artisan Update > Include data/Machines.json > invalid: must set the Action field.

[lucid iron]

The Action field is content patcher

[uncut viper]

top left corner as the origin makes sense bc thats where CRTs would start their beam

[plucky reef]

Just a quick check before I get into coding to make sure I'm not wasting time on a weird solution, is there a way to turn off the animation for swinging a sword? Is that Harmony? Can I keep the damage portion as if there was a swing but not the animation of the swing? I know I will probably have to dig around in source files.

[lucid iron]

I had felt that your harp should be a subclass of meleeweapon

You avoid a bunch of harmony shenanigans in exchange for a spacecore dependency to register your new type

[plucky reef]

it is getting to that point

[rancid temple]

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/develop/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editdata.md

[plucky reef]

a journey of discovery

[lucid iron]

As a subtype it can just override the swing I think

Assuming it's not private

[calm nebula]

Basically all graphics works that way

[plucky reef]

and spacecore is already a dependency

[calm nebula]

Tell the mathematician in you to shut the fuck up

[uncut viper]

i think thats always the recommended course of action

[calm nebula]

Nah

[lucid iron]

The mathematician in me never took calculus ii

[calm nebula]

The mathematician in me is needed rn for work

[rancid temple]

I'm more used to working with a grid in Unity where I don't have to start in the top left, I just go wherever I want in the x, y, or z directions

[lucid iron]

It's an abstraction but I'm psure it's still draw with 0, 0 top left

Monogame just makes u call the draws

[uncut viper]

unity i think does start in the bottom left from a user-facing standpoint as loing as the user doesnt care about what the GPU is doing

[next plaza]

Top left 0,0 is a standard from OpenGL I think?

[rancid temple]

Admittedly, I don't have to care what Unity does in the background lol

But uh, follow the rules of the house or whatever that saying is, so positive is down

[uncut viper]

you could try harmony patching monogame to draw it in a different direction if you want

[lucid iron]

In my trinket mod u put negative offset y for floating

[rancid temple]

I could just invert the math, but it's less about what I want and more about what makes sense for others for this project

The rest is my personal gripes with math

[lucid iron]

What is the Robin position relative to?

Top left of the building sprite?

[rancid temple]

Hm, I was gonna figure that out but I forgot to, one sec

(half the width of the building + the top left X, half the height of the building + top left Y) and then with a built in offset of X + 16 and Y - 32

So I guess it's the middle? (plus half a tile to the right and 1 tile up)

Farmhouse has its own different math

At least, it looks like 16 equals half a tile

Or is it 1/4 and 1/2?

Since the scale is 4x

It's funny that the outdoors position is so granular but indoors is just flat tile positions

[faint remnant]

Is there any tutorial out there/can anyone assist for making tilesheets for indoors I think I did it right but I'm getting spammed with errors about a missing animalHouse constructor and finding the file

[heady relic]

God I'm so close I can feel it. The preserve jar now makes mustard with 5 mustard seeds and 1 wine. It no longer makes anything else it should.

[rancid temple]

Sounds like you overwrote the entire outputs instead of just adding to them

[heady relic]

yup

[rancid temple]

Did you use TargetField?

[heady relic]

Nope, I did it this way (obviously wrong, but also, obviously more digging required)

[lucid iron]

Are you trying replace a coop or barn interior

[rancid temple]

I would link TargetField but I'm not at my computer, it's in the docs I sent you earlier

[faint remnant]

Going to be making a new barn interior with a new exterior basically a new animal building

[calm nebula]

Just checked the cads I have access too

Positive down to the right

[calm nebula]

!json

[ocean sail]

JSON is a standard format for machine-readable text files that's used by Stardew Valley mods.

If you need help with a JSON file, you can upload it to smapi.io/json to see automatic validation and share the link here.

When making mods, it's recommended to edit your files in a text editor with JSON support, such as VS Code, Notepad++, or Sublime Text. These programs will check for syntax errors.

To use this command, type !json.

[calm nebula]

Look if my math brain can accept the damn y axis being upside down lol

[rancid temple]

I'll begrudgingly accept it eventually, it's just new to me lol

[faint remnant]

Sorry should have specified I'm getting the errors once I build the building and when I attempt to enter it. New to all this

[calm nebula]

Sure! And I don't care for debugging code I cannot see

[faint remnant]

Ah I see the share link my bad brain is COOKED

https://smapi.io/json/none/109002845ac942eaa00a5f50f928f73e

[uncut viper]

what is the actual error you are getting? on the same smapi.io site on the left side theres a link to upload your error log too ("Log Parser")
(when you're loading the adultSprite for the Mammoth, is it supposed to say Adlut instead of Adult in the target and fromfile lines?)

[rancid temple]

Can animals even be this big?

[faint remnant]

Animal is working fine the buildings not

[lucid iron]

i think it might be cus you made a custom location

rather than simply loading the tmx as an asset

[brittle pasture]

CustomLocations is deprecated right

[uncut viper]

deprecated but still works

[rancid temple]

It should still work, but I don't know jack about it for anything outside of loading a location

[faint remnant]

I've tried it both ways but I'll try the asset way again

[uncut viper]

you should really send your error log

[heady relic]

probably shouldn't be making rapid incremental changes to my mod with the only version I have of it huh.

[faint remnant]

Not popping up with the error it spams

[rancid temple]

Like I don't know if you can use a CustomLocation to load a building location

[uncut viper]

i dont know what you mean popping up. if you're getting errors, if you're getting anything in the console, you're getting a log saved to your computer

[rancid temple]

Probably not, though CP is easier to recreate

[faint remnant]

https://smapi.io/log/18f65182f6f64e4c9d284798f162404a Sorry about that it's in there now! I know a ton of mods but it's the stuff at the bottom that is erroring

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.0.8 with SDV 1.6.8 build 24119 on Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, with 112 C# mods and 207 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[rancid temple]

In the realm of things I wish were different, why are we still using the blueprint data page for buildings

Ignored Mammoth > custom location 'Jonbow.tent_indoor': the Name field must be prefixed with the mod ID (like 'Jonbow.Mammoth_') or 'Custom_' to avoid conflicting with current or future vanilla locations.

[hallow prism]

we do?

[rancid temple]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Blueprint_data

[hallow prism]

ah i thought you meant in game

[rancid temple]

Ah nah, that's all right and fine

[wanton pebble]

While I'm on break - in terms of Winter Star gifting, you can only give dialogue based on ID or category and not Gift taste presently, correct?

[uncut viper]

im not even sure if you can use CustomLocations for this now anyway, I think you need to load the .tmx directly to Maps/

[rancid temple]

Yeah based on the buildings data, you're not giving it a location you're giving it the map

It creates the location itself

[lucid iron]

i did check another animal building mod, and they did use custom location so it'd work

but i think u only need to load the tmx here?

[uncut viper]

seems.... stange, but i guess i know nothing about maps

[lucid iron]

location should get instanced

[faint remnant]

Yeah I based this off a few working ones

[uncut viper]

still probably easier to just load the tmx into Maps though

and future proof

[lucid iron]

from what i understand 1.6 custom location just makes a Data/Location in the back right

[uncut viper]

beats me 🤷‍♀️

[rancid temple]

I mean, I think that's true

[uncut viper]

i am curious why the error itself says it cant find "Jonbow.tent_indoor.xnb" though if neither the customlocation nor the animal building entry have "Jonbow." in front of it

[lucid iron]

would try just doing

{
    "Action": "Load",
    "Target": "Maps/{{ModId}}_Tent",
    "FromFile": "assets/testing.tmx"
},

and "IndoorMap": "{{ModId}}_Tent"

remove CustomLocations

(maybe name the tmx something other tan testing

[faint remnant]

Changed that inbetween sorry to test if it would fix. I saw that error when checking before and saw that could be a solution

[uncut viper]

ah, well, thatd explain it lol

[rancid temple]

It is funny that CustomLocations ignores when you try to load in a location without proper protection against conflicts but Data/Locations will just let you do whatever you want

[uncut viper]

i assumed the game itself would throw some sort of error or warning if you tried to load two locations with the same name, right? whereas CustomLocations was all Content Patcher

[faint remnant]

Thank you all for helping!! Still broken here is the updated code and log with the changes suggested.

https://smapi.io/json/content-patcher/9b74d4cdd53241ee8291a56d055f1310
https://smapi.io/log/f741b3c89bfd4c978b29790bc2a11612

[ocean sail]

Log Info: SMAPI 4.0.8 with SDV 1.6.8 build 24119 on Microsoft Windows 11 Pro, with 112 C# mods and 207 content packs.
Suggested fixes: One or more mods are out of date, consider updating them

[uncut viper]

are you sure your file is named tentMap.tmx in your assets folder (which should be in the same folder as your content.json)?

you should really turn on file extensions, cause that might be the other kind of Tiled map extension im not remembering atm

[rancid temple]

!fileextensions

[ocean sail]

Hidden File Extensions

Windows and Mac hide most file extensions by default. If you are creating or updating mods, it's helpful to show file extensions so that you can be sure all mod files are named correctly.

To show file extensions on your computer:

On Windows 10, open File Explorer, click on the View tab, then check the File Name Extensions box.

On Windows 11, open File Explorer and click on View > Show > File Name Extensions.

On Mac, open Finder, and in the menu bar, click on Finder > Settings (or Preferences) > Advanced, then check the Show all filename extensions box.

To use this command, type !fileextensions.

[uncut viper]

.tml? I cant remember

[rancid temple]

Seeing them off gives me big anxiety lmao

[uncut viper]

.tbin thats the one

[faint remnant]

Sorry

[rancid temple]

Even if it's all working right, my first instinct is that something could be wrong

[uncut viper]

oh, wait

[lucid iron]

your tent map has xml errors

[uncut viper]

are you using a tilesheet from a different mod?

did you also make the Reptile Hut mod and are trying to use the same .tsx?

[faint remnant]

was testing one out from a different mod to try to get it to work

[lucid iron]

it died on load

Can't apply patch Mammoth > Load Maps/{{ModId}}_Tent to Maps/Jonbow.Mammoth_Tent:
StardewModdingAPI.Framework.Exceptions.SContentLoadException: Failed loading asset 'assets/tentMap.tmx' from SMAPI\jonbow.mammoth: an unexpected error occurred.

[uncut viper]

when you load a file from a different path like that in tiled, it will try to look for the tilesheet like "i want the one thats two folders up and then inside this other foldeR"

But when the game loads it, the game cant look "two folders up"

So it breaks

[lucid iron]

maybe start with the coop.tmx file first

from unpack

[faint remnant]

ty will give that a go!

[lucid iron]

btw u can test with a much smaller set o mods

[uncut viper]

the problem isnt with what tilesheet you used just that the way the info is saved in your .tmx the information about where to find the tilesheet is in a format the game cant understand

[lucid iron]

to load faster

!modgroups

[ocean sail]

See this link for how to load different mod groups: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide/Getting_Started#Can_I_have_different_mod_groups.3F

To use this command, type !modgroups.

[uncut viper]

it wont work if you just load the tilesheet from the unpack directly either

because it will still be relative to your .tmx

unless you put your .tmx IN the unpacked maps folder, then open it and load the tilesheet from that same maps folder, and then move it back into your mod folder when you're done

basically when you're making a .tmx map f ile the easiest way to prevent that sort of error is to only load tilesheets that are in the same folder as the .tmx you're working on

so you could also do the reverse and copy a sheet from the unpacked Maps folder into your mods folder and then delete it before release

[rancid temple]

I thought we had a command for that but I can't remember what it would be

[uncut viper]

!tilesheetclimbing

[ocean sail]

When creating or editing maps in Tiled, one common error is tilesheet climbing, marked by red text containing "invalid tilesheet path '../../..'. This is caused by SMAPI not being able to find the tilesheets needed by the map file. To prevent this error, make sure that you have a copy of all necessary tilesheets in the folder containing your WIP tmx file. Copies of vanilla tilesheets can later be deleted, but must be present while working on your map.

If you get this error with a completed map, an easy way to fix it is to open your tmx file in VS Code or a similar text editor, find all of the places with <image source=, and remove the filepaths to so that only the tilesheet names remain. For example, if the code says <image source="Content (unpacked)/Maps/townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>, change it to just <image source="townInterior_2" width="512" height="64"/>.

To use this command, type !tilesheetclimbing.

[uncut viper]

thats for a similar error and explains how to fix it manually after the fact though, idk if theres another one

[rancid temple]

Probably what I was thinking of, the bit about having a copy of all the tilesheets in the folder containing your tmx

[uncut viper]

pretty sure this is the same genre of error just in this case it cant find the .tsx (Which would then not be able to find the tilesheet)

[rancid temple]

Failing just before the tilesheet climbing lol

[uncut viper]

better to fall at the bottom than during the climb i guess

!mapmaking maybe?

[ocean sail]

If you want to make mods that add or edit maps:

1. Use Tiled (https://www.mapeditor.org) to edit .tmx or .tbin files.
2. Refer to the Maps wiki page (https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Maps) for details on how maps work in Stardew Valley.
3. Use Content Patcher to load in new locations (https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/stable/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/custom-locations.md) or make specific map edits (https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewMods/blob/stable/ContentPatcher/docs/author-guide/action-editmap.md).

To use this command, type !mapmaking.

[rancid temple]

I mean, the maps page has a lot of useful info on it

That's where I got most of my info about how to do map stuff

[old edge]

I added logging to help me write some code and debug everything but now I guess it's flooding the console. hmm.. by default does smapi hide Trace logs?

[uncut viper]

one day when i get back to making my NPCs map ill start remembering the relevant commands but that aint today

SMAPI does hide Trace logs by default

[rancid temple]

Though I think you can see them in a log?

Just not the console

[uncut viper]

in the log file you can see everything

[faint remnant]

This all is so helpful thank you everyone!!! Makes way more sense now

[uncut viper]

(though really you should remove unnecessary debug logging before release anyway)

[rancid temple]

If I have something I need to debug that's gonna spam, I usually set up a config setting for it in GMCM

But anything informational I generally keep in trace or if I think it would help me debug an issue later I also will strap to a GMCM option

[old edge]

oh you mean the log in the errorlogs folder?

[rancid temple]

Yeah

[uncut viper]

yeah that saves everything

[old edge]

hmm so I just need to remove all the logging stuff once I'm done?

[uncut viper]

like Roku there are some things I keep in Trace even on release if I think it would be useful to debug someone elses error log later if they report a bug

but generally I remove most logs that arent errors/warnings

[old edge]

I'm getting this but I'm not sure still very new to C#. [19:18:51 TRACE CapeStardewCode] Player state - Swimming: False, Health: 154, Stamina: 276.4502

[rancid temple]

I probably leave too much in trace, but if it's gotten to the point that I'm trying to figure out why my mod isn't working in trace I really have fucked up

[uncut viper]

if its not gonna provide any useful information and is just for you to debug to make sure the mod works then it's just gonna make log files unnecessarily larger, but also, its usually a moot point most of the time, just kinda good practice to not leave debug code in release

[old edge]

how do I post code here?

[rancid temple]

I've seen pastebin, uh

[uncut viper]

if its a big chunk of code then maybe pastebin i guess

there was one other i saw recently but i forget it but it was just for code

[rancid temple]

There was one Pathos was denoted as using

[calm nebula]

Just logging "meow" randomly

Gonna spin up a second thread for it

[rancid temple]

I think I saw one of your commits was just "meeeooow"

[old edge]

can we embed scripts here?

[rancid temple]

Made me laugh

If they're not too big

!codeblock

[ocean sail]

You can embed code in Discord using a series of three ` :
```
Your code can go here
Even if not a haiku
Just an example
```

For syntax highlighting, add the language code on the same line as the first
``` (with no space, like ```json).
The usual codes are cs (C#) and json.

To use this command, type !codeblock.

[rancid temple]

I should probably add that "not too big" caveat to this

[uncut viper]

i dont know if that command is meant to explain how you should send code here though

just explaining the discord syntax

[rancid temple]

Yeah, I guess that's true

[uncut viper]

i think if you said "not too big" in it people would assume that it just literally wouldnt work over a vaguely defined size limiut

[heady relic]

Hmm. Well my mustard crop grows... but it seems to be using the parsnip texture.

[rancid temple]

https://catbox.moe/
Iconic name

Don't know how I could have forgotten it

[old edge]

hmm

[rancid temple]

Looks more for uploading files in general though

[uncut viper]

box

but

i cant type right now lmao

[rancid temple]

Ah, there's also litterbox.catbox.moe, that's what I was originally thinking of

[uncut viper]

but thats for sending files, i coulda sworn there was- oh yeah

[rancid temple]

Still for sending files

[uncut viper]

thats also the one i was thinking of but i was misremembering it

[rancid temple]

Just temporary storage and much bigger allowed

[uncut viper]

i thought it was just text

but i remember that link bc i got timed out for trying to put it in a markdown link in here

bc i saw pathos do it once

and i didnt know better

[rancid temple]

Mods are bad influences

[uncut viper]

theres also github gists

[rancid temple]

For some reason I do remember a somewhat recent link to a different code sharing site

[old edge]

https://gist.github.com/aronyoddity/4dcec3c7d0ff5a4986a34aa24905f779

[rancid temple]

But my stupid lizard brain won't shut up with pastebin

[heady relic]

well that's not right

[rancid temple]

Spooky

Too long I guess, got converted to a text document lol

Generally code embedding is more for snippets of code

[old edge]

I see

[faint remnant]

Yep it was the tile set thank you all!!!

[rancid temple]

Are you using the dev version of SMAPI?

My console doesn't log trace, so I'm wondering if you've either got that or have a setting changed somewhere

[old edge]

using StardewModdingAPI.Events;
using StardewValley;
using System;

namespace CapeStardewCode
{
    public class CustomEventHandler
    {
        private readonly IMonitor monitor;
        private readonly IModHelper helper;
        private bool passoutTriggered = false; // Flag to prevent repeated execution

        public CustomEventHandler(IMonitor monitor, IModHelper helper)
        {
            this.monitor = monitor;
            this.helper = helper;
        }

        public void OnUpdateTicked(object? sender, UpdateTickedEventArgs e)
        {
            // Ensure the game is ready and the player exists
            if (!Context.IsWorldReady || Game1.player == null)
                return;

            // Prevent further execution if the passout event has already been triggered
            if (passoutTriggered)
                return;

            Farmer who = Game1.player;

            // Hide this trace log by default
            monitor.Log($"Player state - Swimming: {who.swimming.Value}, Health: {who.health}, Stamina: {who.Stamina}", LogLevel.Trace);

            // Check for swimming and health/stamina conditions
            if (who.swimming.Value && (who.health <= 0 || who.Stamina < 0))
            {
                // Keep important log at Info level
                monitor.Log("Player needs to pass out or be rescued due to swimming exhaustion or defeat.", LogLevel.Info);
                passoutTriggered = true; // Set flag to true to prevent further execution
                PerformCapeStardewPassoutEvent(who);
            }
        }```

here's a snippet of the file. I haven't been getting the log flooding it's another player

[uncut viper]

they probably have the dev smapi installed then, or turned on verbose logging

[rancid temple]

```cs
<code here>
```
(FYI)

smapi-internal has a config.json, you could check if you have anything in the VerboseLogging field in there

Also DeveloperMode literally says it enables trace logging visibility lol

[uncut viper]

PEBKAC error

[old edge]

ok the player did say they are also a developer.

so they might have unknowingly enabled trace logging?

[rancid temple]

I had to look that up the first time you said it lol

I mean, if they downloaded the dev version of SMAPI these things are probably already on

[old edge]

so is it necessary for me to make any changes to the code?

[uncut viper]

nope

[lucid iron]

iirc you can setup macros in C#

[rancid temple]

It would be wild to unknowingly go into the config json and change these settings but people do be wild

[uncut viper]

entirely their problem, though you can let them know

[lucid iron]

to build with and without logging statements for debug vs release

[next plaza]

C# doesn't have preprocessor macros

(Assuming you mean like C++ does with #define )

[rancid temple]

You can do those #if directives

[lucid iron]

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/dotnet/csharp/language-reference/preprocessor-directives

its got simple ones i think

[rancid temple]

I ran into one with AchtuurCore the other day

[lucid iron]

cant put a whole mini func but can do yay nay

[next plaza]

Ah, by macros I assumed you meant the functions since that's what I normally hear for that

I use #if DEBUG in some of my stuff

[lucid iron]

yea idk the c# specific name for these

[next plaza]

The page you linked calls them symbols

Under "Defining symbols"

[rancid temple]

I think this is one of those things that people call a bunch of different things

[next plaza]

Yeah I've never heard them called symbols

Just preprocessor defines... though those work differently in C++ since you can actually use them in code

[lucid iron]

i do wish for c/cpp style #define so that i can stop writing whatever * 64

[rancid temple]

In Unity I've seen people call them directives

[next plaza]

If only we had user defined literals like C++ does: https://github.com/dotnet/roslyn/issues/4971

[rancid temple]

The questions until OP gave up lol

[lone ice]

hi all, anyone know, can you not mod bundles in content patcher?

[rancid temple]

Data/Bundles?

[lone ice]

  "Action": "EditData",
  "Target": "Data/Bundles",
  "Entries": {
    "Bulletin Board/34": "Bug Catcher's/BO 25 1/{{ModId}}_Dragonfly 1 0 {{ModId}}_Butterfly 1 0 {{ModId}}_StagBeetle 1 0 {{ModId}}_AtlasBeetle 1 0 {{ModId}}_RhinocerosBeetle 1 0 {{ModId}}_HeraclesBeetle 1 0 /6///Bug Catcher's'"
  }
}``` modifies the dye bundle entry but doesn't reflect a change in the game

[rancid temple]

New save? Existing save?

[lone ice]

existing save but I could try making a new game

[old edge]

preprocessor directives?

[uncut viper]

bundles are created on save creation

they dont get affected afterwards

[rancid temple]

That explains everything

[next plaza]

Yeah, you can set certain builds of your mod (like Debug or Release, or for different platforms for other types of C# projects, etc.) to have certain symbols defines. Then use #if to do things based on it. For example, one that VS has by default is DEBUG for Debug builds only, which I'm using here:

        if (Content == null)
        {
            if (cp.IsConditionsApiReady)
            {
                Content = new PatchContentEngine(ModManifest, Helper, "assets/content.spacecore");
#if DEBUG
                Content.OnReloadMonitorInstead("assets");
#endif
                Content.Reload();
            }
            else return;
        }

[old edge]

should I change all of the LogLevel.Info to LogLevel.Trace?

[next plaza]

Then the line between #if DEBUG and #endif gets excluded in Release mode

[uncut viper]

#if stuff also handy for making dotnet templates

[rancid temple]

Only if you don't want to see those logs in the console but still want them to show up in the error log

(still won't solve that users issue, that's still on them)

Though if those logs are only to determine if your mod is working and serve no function of debugging your mod, you could just remove them

I keep forgetting to switch my mods to release mode

I think all my mods on Nexus are still compiled from debug lmao

[old edge]

yes I just needed them to help me check if it's working

[uncut viper]

pretty sure all of mine are too

[rancid temple]

I think it's fine unless someone tries to use reflection on it

[uncut viper]

what does debug vs release mode do for reflection?

[next plaza]

My repo is set up to only do the packaging from modbuildconfig in release mode (I think Shockah did a PR for that for me?)

[rancid temple]

Not sure if it actually does anything, just saw someone mention they were asked to switch to release for that once I think?

[old edge]

Oh that's cool

[next plaza]

https://github.com/spacechase0/StardewValleyMods/pull/373

Release mode is more optimized

[rancid temple]

There's a lot I could be doing to make my mod releases better/less work

[next plaza]

I need to get that automated build upload stuff working again

[rancid temple]

Currently still just zipping up my mod in the Mods folder and deleting the config lmao

[rancid musk]

At the risk of blatant decision to advertise my own stuff: If you use ModManifestBuilder, it will append -Debug to your version automatically when building a debug release, which also makes it very obvious that you didn't use Release mode. https://github.com/KhloeLeclair/Stardew-ModManifestBuilder

I use both that, and disabling .zip for non-release builds.

[next plaza]

This actually causes me problems when I have mods relying on SpaceCore:

<Version_AppendConfiguration>false</Version_AppendConfiguration> <!-- Otherwise mods get confused about having 1.13.0-Debug, but needing 1.13.0 or newer -->

Probably from switching to release to build, then switching back to debug and not immediately incrementing the version

[rancid musk]

Yeah, it can be a detriment when developing multiple mods simultaneously

And when not incrementing your version, as you said

It's not necessarily the wrong behavior, but it does make it harder to be lazy which is its own problem sometimes 😄

[heady relic]

Final question for the day. Do you think the sprites for these should be wider/taller to seem more full when planted in a field?

[rancid temple]

Size is probably fine, but I think there's something off about the color?

[heady relic]

Yeah, I think I'm going to darken the base a bit, and add some frost/snow to the flowers themselves to make it blend in more. Maybe some more texture to make it seem like a bunch of small flowers instead of one weird shaped one.

[rancid temple]

Vanilla has plenty of weird sprites, I think it's just the lack of very specific shading that makes it stand out

[heady relic]

Yeah, that makes sense. I'll go through and try and modify them more based on vanilla flowers

[rancid temple]

Learning and using CA's shading is its own trial

[brittle ledge]

Yeah, I think it could use some darker colors in your palette

[old edge]

what plant is that?

[heady relic]

Mustard!

[old edge]

oh ok well it has the mustard color

[brittle ledge]

If you wanted to make them wider, I'd do it more at the base and make it a bit triangular shaped?

[rancid temple]

FWIW, I'm no artist but I think the sprite looks good, just the colors stand out a lot to me

[old edge]

yes because it seems to have a tint of green no?

[heady relic]

Oh I'm definitely no artist either. This is my first attempt at making any pixel art, and I figured people here would have plenty of opinions on it

[rancid temple]

That might be fine, if that's what you're going for

[brittle ledge]

Actually I take that back, I'd make the top wider if anything, looking at pictures of the actual plant

(also if you'd like art feedback you can also post in #making-mods-art !)

[heady relic]

Yeah, that makes sense. I think the monitor I made the art on was a bit darker looking than the one I play on

[heady relic]

Oh!

[hollow nest]

any tips for npc programming/creating in stardew? i’m making mods to add some characters i like but i only know basic python :(

[old edge]

I would add some lighter yellow shades?

[uncut viper]

well, python specifically is not really going to help you here, but not being totally new to programming will help make concepts easier

[tiny zealot]

!npc

[ocean sail]

Creating a Custom NPC

Keep in mind that making NPCs is a complex process that requires learning many different aspects of Stardew modding.
Here are a few links that can help get you started on all that you need to know:

1. Tiakall has a great tutorial on making a custom NPC for 1.6:
   https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Tutorial:_Making_a_Custom_NPC

2. Custom NPCs received many improvements with 1.6. For changes made, see the migration guide:
   https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Migrate_to_Stardew_Valley_1.6#Custom_NPCs

3. Some information on the NPC wiki page is still relevant:
   https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:NPC_data
   Just make sure you're checking the migration page and tutorial first as this page still has outdated information on it as well.

4. Aviroen has put together a template that will allow you to easily create a romanceable NPC:
   https://stardewmodding.wiki.gg/wiki/Npc_template

To use this command, type !npc.

[uncut viper]

!startmodding to look at content patcher stuff, and im sure someone has the NPC command ready

[ocean sail]

Making mods can be broadly divided into two categories:

• Content packs are formatted text files, and don't need any programming knowledge. They can add/edit NPCs, maps, new items, shops, and more. To get started, see the list of framework mods, the wiki tutorial for Content Patcher, and there might be relevant guides on the tutorial wiki.
• C# mods use programming code to change fundamental game mechanics. See getting started with C# modding.

Usually it’s easier to start with making content packs, since you don't need to learn programming.

To use this command, type !startmodding.

[hollow nest]

ohhhh omg thank u!

[brittle ledge]

(I couldn't remember if it was just !NPC or like !npcmodding )

[tiny zealot]

tee hee

[uncut viper]

(i just saw ichor typing and figured i had a 50/50 chance that it was either gonna be the startmodding command or the npc command. i guessed correctly )

[brittle ledge]

A programming background will definitely benefit even with CP (which is just JSON formatting) cause you'll take to the harder stuff like queries and dynamic tokens easier

[hollow nest]

awesome!!

i have 2 yrs of comp science experience + currently in college for cybersecurity so hopefully it pays off 🤞

using my 3 years of knowledge so far for stardew mods is the best lol

[tiny zealot]

it will definitely help. you will be able to understand instructions like "add an item to this array" without just blindly guessing the syntax

[hollow nest]

tysm!!!!

[brittle ledge]

I mean my 2 years of compsci went to webpage making, Stardew mods, and Excel spreadsheets so

[old edge]

I started modding but knowing absolutely nothing about programming or modding in general. I mainly have a background in illustration. Though I started tinkering with Linux and studying python and at the same time getting into stardew valley. Now I create my mods on my linux machine only.

[rancid temple]

Didn't someone use python to actually mod here though? lol

[velvet narwhal]

pytk is lua, so i mean

[wanton pebble]

I think pillow?

[patent atlas]

hell nah I won't study for the linear optimization test tomorrow, I want to make mods for the farming game!!!!

[uncut viper]

someone was working on a pytocp converter I think but I don't know if it was finished

[old edge]

I was using python to automate some portions of mod making at a certain point. but for content patcher code

[brittle ledge]

That was pillow too, I think

[uncut viper]

(it was aloe)

[rancid temple]

Ah aloe, I don't hear from Pillow much, so I was certain it was someone else

[calm nebula]

Technically I've taking at least one coding class eh

[velvet narwhal]

(i'm aboutta drop kick this assignment and call it a day tbh)

[hollow nest]

that’s so real tho! spreadsheets suck to learn :((

[rancid temple]

Ya'll making me second guess wanting to go to college

[next plaza]

grumpy voice Back in my day, we didn't have a non-programming option for making mods. It was C# or nothing!

(Let's ignore XNB mods, shall we?)

[rancid temple]

(Happily)

[hollow nest]

that’s really cool! when i was younger i had no programming experience but i liked art, so i made a visual novel. it made me happy and gave me a lot of motivation to pursue comp sci

[lucid iron]

Enroll in SDV108 at ur local colleg today

[hollow nest]

exactly!!!!!!!

there should be an sdv class at every college

[next plaza]

I was programming for 7 years when I started modding the game 8 years ago

[velvet narwhal]

my uni just went around going, "why do YOU think cs majors have the lowest graduation rate?" and i said, "because one teacher teaches all the required classes and he doesn't explain anything"

[hollow nest]

yeeeeeep

[lucid iron]

Modding amrite

I wonder if I should make a tool just for ppl to open menu with

[rancid temple]

I assumed it was the classes specifically designed to be hard just to make people quit

[lucid iron]

Instead of key bind

[hollow nest]

comp sci college is a fun loop of hard topic going too fast > “why do you not understand? it’s gonna get harder” > harder topic going too fast

[lucid iron]

Alternatively I figure out how to put a button in gmcm

[rancid temple]

Hack GMCM

[lucid iron]

To open unrelated menu rather than page

[velvet narwhal]

i think i'll have an easier time doing that karaoke minigame now, i'm quite literally fed up with this assignment

[rancid temple]

Become another casualty of the inevitable GMCM update

[tiny zealot]

i've done this. one sec

[calm nebula]

Technically I've taking at least one coding class eh

[calm nebula]

Weed out classes

My understanding is that these are rarer now

[rancid temple]

Thats the phrase I was looking for

Hm, they were still a thing a few years ago when my brother was going through, I guess that was about 5 years now though

[brittle pasture]

it's called discrete math

[next plaza]

Discrete math was fun!

[calm nebula]

I can't really speak for the normal college experience

[tiny zealot]

example here: https://github.com/ichortower/Nightshade/blob/dev/src/GMCM.cs#L79
it's a bit scattered around this (short) source file but you make a complex widget with your own draw function, and just check for the click in there since i'm not sure where else you could check for it

[patent atlas]

Partially.

Thankfully my specific professor was like a father to the class

[tiny zealot]

both of these things can be true. i loved discrete 1 and also the attrition rate was huge

[patent atlas]

And happened to also be in bjj so we became grappling buddies

[rancid temple]

Is this a joke btw? I am concerned that you sent it twice lol

[patent atlas]

But he purposefuly went lighter on the harder part od the discipline

[tiny zealot]

we lost about 20% of the class by the early drop deadline, and another 30% or so by withdrawal time

maybe more. it was brutal

[velvet narwhal]

we're on week 2, and my cs2 class is down to 10 people out of 68

[patent atlas]

Decrypting messages by hand

[patent atlas]

Damn

[uncut viper]

so someone's gonna make a mod to teach discrete math via stardew, right. to make learning fun or whatever

[rancid temple]

Your Uni might want to considering hiring someone else lmao

[calm nebula]

Phone lag

I didn't mean to

[velvet narwhal]

i'd much rather make a GUI in stardew for a matrix than do this class

[hallow prism]

where can i find the item fields thing when you can see the minstack quality and such?

[old edge]

I definitely think C# makes more sense to me now just by learning this modding

[patent atlas]

I genuinelly dont see how you could ever gameify that

[brittle pasture]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Item_queries

[patent atlas]

Just make a videoplayer and play an actual lecture

[rancid temple]

I think Dr. Elizabeth MathPerson was interested in a university mod for SDV lol

[velvet narwhal]

there's already a videoplayer mod iirc

[lucid iron]

frog fractions with sebastian

[hallow prism]

thanks, i had objects AND gsq and what i needed was the overlap of them obviously

[tiny zealot]

i still have my discrete math textbook, although i only saved it for the single paragraph in it that explained quicksort. (in a previous CS class, a not-so-effective teacher spent a whole week trying to teach us quicksort and i think we all left more confused than we came in)

[rancid temple]

I think you mean, monitor riser /j

[velvet narwhal]

the desk stabilizer /j

[tiny zealot]

then in this book it was like "here's how it works, done" and my face was

(it had also been a few years since the debacle, so)

[rancid temple]

Sometimes I think it's amazing we have any competent people anywhere with how many bad teachers we have

[calm nebula]

Hey

[velvet narwhal]

yeah they quite literally got a guy off the street for my husband's ODE class

[calm nebula]

I've always had great professors

Or at least half decent ones

The worst just read off his paragraph long slides tbh

[uncut viper]

(though, the uni talk is probably off topic at this point)

[rancid temple]

Only at this point? :P

[uncut viper]

hey I tried to salvage it with the Stardew discrete math joke

[velvet narwhal]

yeah-- now i interrupt this scheduled programming to go, "what the hell do i do with modentry" i am lost in the wiki sauce

[uncut viper]

modentry just has your entry function and whatever else you want in it

doesn't even need to be called modentry it just needs to extend mod

(and obv have the entry function)

[lucid iron]

AviorenVeryAwesomeMod : Mod

[velvet narwhal]

IAmSuffering : Mod

[next plaza]

I call mine Mod

Mod : StardewModdingAPI.Mod

[lucid iron]

no I indicates interface

[velvet narwhal]

f

[rancid temple]

HelloIAmSuffering : Mod

[next plaza]

To the one who reacted with SDVPufferpain - how often do you really need SMAPI's Mod class instead of your own?

[lucid iron]

i like the IHaveModData interface from the game

[next plaza]

Yeah, that's a fun name, I've done similar stuff before

[rancid temple]

Only the once I suppose, fair enough

I still haven't moved away from naming mine ModEntry, feels right

[next plaza]

I feel like it doesn't make sense with how I organize my mods to call it ModEntry

Since I do more than just set up - a lot of the mod lives there too

[uncut viper]

mine just gets renamed to the mod name

[next plaza]

(Don't look at what I did for S&S though, it's dumb)

So poorly organized

[rancid temple]

Lol, I have way too many mods where I'm doing everything in ModEntry

[lucid iron]

me too, i should really name it something else

and do new class for encapsulation or whatever

[velvet narwhal]

inb4 modding will help me understand this damn encapsulation and inheritance lecture because my brain is smooth

[next plaza]

I mean, you could do what some people do and do multiple files, but all of them are partial class ModEntry

[tiny zealot]

sufficiently small mods i just put in the one class/file. i have moved away from calling them ModEntry though

[uncut viper]

i turn everything into a new class for my two main mods cause then I can use reflection to iterate over every class to do things automagically for me

[lucid iron]

that seems like chaotic evil

[next plaza]

I've been meaning to make myself an abstract base class for my mod to do magical things

[tiny zealot]

it's not chaotic evil until you're using reflection to iterate over your harmony patches

[next plaza]

Like being able to subscribe to events like from MC Forge rather than the C# way

[next plaza]

I mean, isn't that PatchAll does? (I know some people here don't like PatchAll...)

[calm nebula]

Nah

Use exec

[next plaza]

Use the old pointer math overriding method of patching

[tiny zealot]

probably, but i read the advice about the annotations setup being Not Recommended and i took it literally

[next plaza]

I think that's mostly legacy from the days of separate assembly names for Windows and Mac/Linux

[uncut viper]

i read that same advice and said "ok but it's so much easier"

[rancid temple]

Will it not be true when Android updates?

[tiny zealot]

(my patches were also set up in a different class structure than PatchAll expects and i didn't want to reorg them)

[rancid musk]

As someone with a magical abstract base class, it's nice.

[next plaza]

I like to pretend Android modding won't exist until it actually does

[uncut viper]

is Android getting a smapi update?

i thought it was in a weird limbo

[next plaza]

It sorta is, there's nobody maintaining the 1.5 version right now

[lucid iron]

what does the magical abstract base class do

[calm nebula]

Magic

The entire mod

Just magically

No, it's a way to have code reuse

Look at stardew hack

[lucid iron]

oh like one of those common things

i think i been doing this mono repo thing entirely wrong by not having one

[calm nebula]

Nah

Do what you want lol

[lucid iron]

it is a psychology thing i feel

making a whole new git repo feels like higher amount of commitment and vision

[velvet narwhal]

i contemplate throwing in the language change for the karaoke mod but i don't know if i care to have text on screen of lyrics

[latent mauve]

so, I have a general question about how spouses work as far as the outdoor areas and scheduling them to use it. Is that just a built-in behavior that happens when they are given the appropriate status for CanBeRomanced, or is there more to it?

I peeked at a few custom NPC tutorials and didn't see any mention of scheduling them to use outdoor areas, so I was curious.

[rancid temple]

I think that's just one of the hardcoded spouse specific schedules that can be chosen

There's actually a lot about spouses that are hardcoded as hell

[velvet narwhal]

engagement dialogue eats everything and i'm too lazy to do input separators

{
    this.setUpForOutdoorPatioActivity();
    return;
}```
yeaaaaaah

[rancid temple]

Oh, Saturday only huh

Kinda rude they only get one day to enjoy their outside area

[velvet narwhal]

one day, can't be rainin, can't be winter, can't be krobus
can't be happy /j

[tiny zealot]

yep. hardcoded. paturday saturday

[calm nebula]

Poor krobus

[shadow vortex]

I was considering working on a mod to make spouses interact with the farm more, but spouse behavior on the farm is a hard-coded mess.

[velvet narwhal]

button has the machine activator and i was contemplating it

1 keg, randomly, just to put everything off sync

[rancid temple]

I wouldn't want them to wander around

I don't need my fucking chests scooted about willy nilly

[velvet narwhal]

it's bad enough some of them plaster wallpaper/flooring

[rancid temple]

"You have bad taste, here's a random choice from this list that I think is better"

Or a hard set choice I guess, I can't remember

[velvet narwhal]

you can set a list

[rancid temple]

Or a random chair, blocking the path of travel through the house

Because why not

[velvet narwhal]

i think the only less annoying feature i'd do is making tappers ready at random

i have a feeling people would get mad if i did only like, a handful of kegs/casks just because they kept their spouse happy

[calm nebula]

What if spouse did planting with you

Day 1 of thr season

More immersion

Always more immersion

[uncut viper]

reskin a junimo to use the spouse sprite

[calm nebula]

drowns in immersion

[rancid temple]

Would be great to have them run around if they didn't collide or if the pathing system was redone to actually fully avoid running into things

If I play with another person and they walk in straight lines everywhere, using their tools to knock my chests out of the way, I'm going to prison the next day

[calm nebula]

Bathing system lol

God I'm so tired

[rancid temple]

sleeep

I don't remember setting these, and some of my mods don't have it, some of them are opposite values

[rancid temple]

I was so distracted I only just saw this, cursed lmao

[brittle pasture]

make it just their head sprite but with tiny arms and legs attached

[lucid iron]

https://tenor.com/view/applecat-gif-21991451

[uncut viper]

can i report chu for making people look at me weird for suddenly laughing at that

[heady relic]

Alright. Now I just need to extract mustard from the mess of all the other random crap I've added so I can upload it as an actual mod

Which I'm now realizing means I'm going to need to test everything again

[heady relic]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/27726 😎

Thank you everyone that helped! Couldn't possibly have done this without you!

[hallow prism]

sometimes i wish i would eat more mustard, i love flavored mustard but it's so sad to never finish a jar

[heady relic]

Honestly I mostly use it to season burgers before I cook them. Sometimes steak too.

[hallow prism]

i use them mostly in hot dog, which i don't do that often

anyway, you made a crop AND it has french reference, so, good work

[heady relic]

I think it might need some balance changes, but I'm pretty proud of it for now. Specifically, requiring a whole bottle of wine for a single jar of mustard seems excessive.

[hallow prism]

switching for vinegar?

but it's not the same balance of course

[heady relic]

I'm not gonna lie, I totally forgot vinegar was even in the game.

[hallow prism]

ok! i wasn't sure if it was that or wanting something the player can produce (lot of people don't know you can make vinegar with rice now)

[heady relic]

I just saw that Dijon is often made with wine and jumped on that. My biggest issue with the whole bottle of wine is that with the same amount of crop space, you can produce way more mustard seed than wine.

Even buying vinegar for 200 though, you're still making solid returns.

Something for 1.1 I guess.

Could probably just add a second Preserve Jar recipe that uses vinegar instead for a cheaper mustard type.

[hallow prism]

you should possibly be able to require one wine and several seeds

and give several jars

and that sounds fair too

[heady relic]

Ultimately the simplest solution is to reduce the number of seeds that drop per crop

Not gonna lie, making stardew mods is not what I thought I would be doing with a premium Jetbrains subscription

[hallow prism]

you'll have time to consider your option anyway

[velvet narwhal]

(devilled eggs??)

[heady relic]

added to the notpad of future ideas

Thinking 3 eggs, 1 mayo, 1 mustard makes 6 deviled eggs.

maybe vinegar too. Include another use for that.

[silver snow]

alright, finished up the readme in stuff for my lil project. i also like this thing i added

and tbh im liking it more as an external utility, strictly a me thing but having a CLI feels nicer than wiki-ing everything

[heady relic]

you inspired me

[drowsy pewter]

So glad you published something!

[shadow vortex]

Mmmm deviled eggs

[heady relic]

Now the real question is what the stats should be for it

[lapis creek]

grats!

[patent lance]

@next plaza: do this (24h ago)

[next plaza]

Remind me in 24 hours to look into marriage schedules with my 0 schedule fix

[patent lance]

You're a meanie...but okay, kittycatcasey (#6238409) (24h | <t:1726270536>)

[plucky reef]

I am getting confused at the custom object stuff in spacecore... for making a custom weapon type like chu/e was saying to try, do I make it an object so I can use UseForTriggerAction, or do I make it a weapon using weapon data?
Right now both are in C#, would I need to export them to JSON/CP and then add CustomFields?

Is there maybe a mod that has used this I can crib off of?

[calm nebula]

I would inheritance meleeweapon

If you are gonna inheritance at all

[lucid iron]

the api you need is RegisterSerializerType

[calm nebula]

Hey guys

How are things

This piffle is exhausted

If you want a 1.5.6 example, shovel

[lucid iron]

which let you properly save your new MeleeWeapon subclass

[plucky reef]

alright

[lucid iron]

u also need to do stuff to make ur harp actually take on the subclass ofc

not sure where is best place for this

[calm nebula]

In n Out

Clearly. Best place for everything

[frail plank]

Anyone know where to find the list of possible sounds?

[velvet narwhal]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CpDrw23peQiq-C7F2FjYOMePaYe0Rc9BwQsj3h6sjyo/edit?gid=1082266757#gid=1082266757

[frail plank]

Thank you!

[teal bridge]

tfw you not only can't remember why you wrote that code, but can't even figure it out after an hour of staring and stepping.

Past me was far too clever for present me. Or present me is too daft for past me. One of the two. I hate that guy.

[next plaza]

Me trying to remember why I have two different simplify functions in my content engine stuff that're almost identical

https://tenor.com/view/math-calculate-confusing-figure-out-gif-6237717

[rancid temple]

Guessing one's not an overload

[plucky reef]

The current iteration does, and then I got the bright idea to make it not swing anymore but do a quasi equivalent, and the special action is getting overwritten as well, so the only thing left of it is that it isn't held over your head, and the special attack cooldown that does nothing.

[teal bridge]

The thing is, the entire code is maybe 30 lines, and I had the foresight to write a 20 line comment explaining it to future me. And it still MAKES NO SENSE FFFEHJWRHJN

Don't drink and code, kids.

[rancid temple]

I don't think I could stand to read my own 20 line comment, that sounds like something I should have made a fully formatted documentation page for lol

[teal bridge]

Well it was supposed to be an implementation detail... I don't normally write full documentation pages for my own self.

[lucid iron]

if it runs then just ship it

what could go wrong

[sudden pilot]

did I mess this up somehow? Everything except for the beach sprites work.

[rancid temple]

Well, the part where you have to tell others what it is and how to use it lol

[teal bridge]

I think what's happening here is that the fundamental assumption was just wrong, so very wrong. Like reading a physics proof that starts with "Step 1: Assume the speed of light is 38 feet per second." In what freaking universe?

[uncut viper]

your target just says Harvey_Beach and not Portraits/Harvey_Beach

[sudden pilot]

OHHHH

THANK YOU

[calm nebula]

(Aside: I fucking hate it when things are in imperial units and I do often have to use them)

[tiny zealot]

https://frinkiac.com/caption/S06E18/211627 "My car gets 40 rods to the hogshead and that's the way I likes it!"

[calm nebula]

Doing something at work today where my coworker was giving me measurements in um and vendor was giving me measurements in inches

Inches

I'm a fucking engineer why am I dealing with inches

[shadow vortex]

Ooh fun

[plucky reef]

Ok looking at the shovel this is making sense, was in the general range of what I was getting towards. Lots more reading of base game stuff to do to put in my desired changes but it'll look way cleaner at the end.

My modentry was getting very sloppy.

[silver snow]

im confused -- is carp supposed to have the season_winter context tag twice? I thought these corresponded to seasons they can be caught in

[rancid temple]

Got any mods that are patching fish?

[uncut viper]

thats from the unpacked folder, carp just has that

[silver snow]

I made that ran stardewxnbhack before installing mods

and even then, no

[teal bridge]

As a proud burger-grillin', fire-crackin', beer-drinkin' 'murrican, I have to agree that it's a pain in the ass when actual code or math formulas aren't in SI units.

Pretty sure we got the "life-terminating, multi-billion dollar disasters" lesson in like, week 1 of year 1 of engineering school, if my foggy old memory is correct.

[silver snow]

welp dammit. guess ill have to use my other method for getting seasons :v

so close yet so far

[uncut viper]

what do you mean? why does having it twice prevent that?

[silver snow]

it also doesnt have season_summer

er

yea

I want to get the seasons a fish is catchable, I have a method for doing that but its kind of a minor refactor to use, so i figured i may as well just nab contexttags

[uncut viper]

i think the actual spawn conditions are handled in the location data anyway but i doint look at fish stuff too much

[teal bridge]

Yeah, you have to look at location data not fish data, I think the context tags are used more for quests, like when Willy wants you to catch a particular fish.

[silver snow]

yeah, just going to have to go loc by loc and get whether the fish name is a key in the composition with how i do things

[uncut viper]

it is an odd bug that it has a duplicate winter instead of a summer though still

[silver snow]

not too much of an issue and probably the inevitable thing anywho but like. idk. path of least resistance

yeah

[teal bridge]

Then again, maybe one of the season_winters was really supposed to be season_summer and no one's ever noticed it til now.

[silver snow]

if im the first one to notice this im honored, but surely not? it would have been in here for a while

in any case, ill just stick to adding a little blurb for the fish with catchable/freq per location it appears in

[fiery cobalt]

I did this and can still make the juices?

https://smapi.io/json/none/e0e735e5502945bf93ae2474b13d82b1

[drowsy pewter]

are you sure you dont have other mods interfering--and are you also sure this code is being loaded/included

and 2) ancient fiber isnt from us

[brittle pasture]

yeah I just tested in game and it works?

run patch export Data/Machines to see whether your changes are applied correctly

[drowsy pewter]

haha i was just about to ask if you meant patch export

[brittle pasture]

You saw nothing

[fiery cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/the-penguins-of-madagascar-madagascar-movies-animation-cartoons-gif-16596826

[brittle pasture]

/s

[drowsy pewter]

there truly are many many mods which add new rules for juice/wine/etc or fully replace the rules to make one small change

[fiery cobalt]

I think I just didn't have extra machine config (forgot to put in the folder)

[brittle pasture]

I don't think that matters in this case

[fiery cobalt]

It seems to be working!

Sorry to keep bug you guys

[golden basin]

I just posted additional silly content for my mod 🎉

[lapis creek]

I just need to ask, because I'm a little confused in my testing. are there different conditons for weather on and off ginger island I need to be aware of? Or will when I make my fish show up with rainy weather will it automatically detect that it is on the island but isnt in the valley?

[teal bridge]

Doesn't weather query take a location param?

[uncut viper]

it does yes

[teal bridge]

It's just what you put in the param. "WEATHER Here" is the current location.

[lapis creek]

that answers the general question thank you, which I just realised is not actually my confusion

but rather the weather entry in the fish data specifically

[teal bridge]

I think the fish conditions are just normal GSQs.

[lapis creek]

which means its at least "fixable" if the fish data weather only takes into account the valley because I could use a condition instead.

[teal bridge]

It's not only in the valley, it's in whatever location the condition specifies.

"Here" is wherever you are right now.

[lapis creek]

specifically the sunny/rainy here

I know the seasons dont work in this bit, but the weather does.

[teal bridge]

I see, but I think the answer is still the same.

[uncut viper]

it just checks wherever "Here" happens to be

[teal bridge]

Checked what the fish spawner does and it checks location.IsRainingHere()

So it's equivalent to a "Here" GSQ in the fish spawn data.

[lapis creek]

thank you!

[teal bridge]

(note that those particular weather conditions are ignored with magic bait)

[lapis creek]

So I didnt do anything wrong, thats a relief. still need to figure out why the fish in particular isnt showing up tho but I can look into it myself

[teal bridge]

Did you add the fish to spawn data? To locations?

[lapis creek]

yeah

only idea is I might have typed the IslandSouthEast location wrong or that that doesnt point where I think it does

[teal bridge]

Not sure if this is an issue, or maybe qualified IDs aren't used in CP, but normally those fish IDs should be qualified with "(O)"

Weird things can happen when trying to spawn items without a qualifier.

[lapis creek]

theres qualifiers in the right locations

[uncut viper]

i dont think it can be Fall on the island

[lapis creek]

and rsv doesnt add an 9O) to the fist one which is the stylkeguide I am referencing

[lapis creek]

hmm, I think I need to look into how other fish mods do seasonal island fish then

[teal bridge]

There are seasonal island fish?

[uncut viper]

i might be wrong though i might be confusing it with a season context thing

[teal bridge]

Island has no seasons at all, at least in vanilla, unless there are mods that add seasons somehow.

[uncut viper]

oh no yeah, Island has a SeasonOverride set to Summer

so it's always summer there

[lapis creek]

I know at least the Fishmonger mod has, so I'll check its code now

[uncut viper]

you want just SEASON

not LOCATION_SEASON

[teal bridge]

Ah, yeah, I was going to say, you could implement "seasonal" island fish by querying the season in a different location.

(or the entire game's "season")

[uncut viper]

LOCATION_SEASON specifically takes into account things like the island having permanent summer

[lapis creek]

just SEASON checks the valley then?

[teal bridge]

I think SEASON is attached to the save data itself, it's a global.

[lapis creek]

thanks

[teal bridge]

Like what shows on your calendar HUD.

[uncut viper]

SEASON checks the games overall season, which could be the valley or a modded location context

[teal bridge]

WorldDate

[lapis creek]

I'll use that then

[uncut viper]

(for future reference the Desert also has its own season override too, also set to summer)

[lapis creek]

I was going to ask if theres any other vanilla locations like that thanks

[lucid iron]

is it a good idea to make a local in il

[uncut viper]

why not

[lucid iron]

im unsure of the best way to determine the number

[uncut viper]

i dont think you need to

you just declare a local and pass that localbuilder as an operand to stloc_s (or stloc? one of the two. cant remember which is better. ive used both i think)

[lucid iron]

the use case is that i need index to a foreach emumeration

i wonder if i should bother keeping track of a local or just do a find index in the C# func that i patched in

[uncut viper]

what do you mean, like, you need to store an enumerator?

[lucid iron]

no there's a foreach like this

foreach (MachineOutputTriggerRule trigger2 in rule.Triggers)
{
    // call to my func patched somewhere inside
}

i need to know index of trigger2 as it loops

rule.Triggers is on average 1 item, maybe 2-3 if a modder was feeling lucky

so not huge cost to just go index for

very sad that MachineOutputTriggerRule.Id isnt guarenteed to be unique

[uncut viper]

you could do that. it wouldnt be hard to declare a local, but i guess its probably better not to if you dont have to in case someone else codes a transpiler that expects a local with a specific index. i dont know if declaring a new one would possibly reorder the others

[lucid iron]

i wonder how content patcher handles that

yea the reordering is what im worried about, which is why i was thinking of somehow determining the last local index used

[calm nebula]

My god

You're doing python loops

I know this scoping rule

[lucid iron]

yea wheres my enumerate(arr) i miss it

[calm nebula]

I abuse this scoping rule

I'm a bad person

I admit it

Anyways yeah you can declare locals

[uncut viper]

i dont know how you would determine the last local index that was used or how it would help

[calm nebula]

Button will supply an example

[uncut viper]

unless i misunderstand what you mean

uhh uhh

https://github.com/Spiderbuttons/ButtonsExtraBooks/blob/main/Button's Extra Books/Powers/ArtisanMachines.cs

here

bad example

but its an example

[lucid iron]

why did you call instructionsToAdd.Add 3000 times

[uncut viper]

i know ive declared a local other times too i just remember this one (un)fondly bc its hard to forget stupidly writing an entire foreach loop with IL

this was like, my first transpiler

before i realized i didnt need to loop over every farmer in the IL and that i can just call a function to do it for me

this was also before i used codematcher so i was adding an array of instructions to the original instructions list

so instructionsToAdd is a list i created that i was adding instructions to

and laying it out line by line made it more readable for me

[lucid iron]

fair nuff

this is putting me off the idea though

the other annoying thing about this partcular foreach is that theres 4 continues in it

[uncut viper]

https://github.com/Spiderbuttons/BETAS/blob/a1d8217871cc29389e073710f910f5c2f58d99e8/BETAS/Triggers/RelationshipChanged.cs#L173

i also do it here, more recently

[lucid iron]

ill give it a shot tho

[uncut viper]

its also fun to see how much you can avoid declaring a local by just making sure what you want stays on the stack and is at the top when you expect it to be

not as fun when theres like 500 lines of code between when the value is made and when you need it though so locals are better there

probably

[brave fable]

that sounds perilous lol

[lucid iron]

but is there really other way to know where you are in the list

[uncut viper]

not in a foreach loop i think

[lucid iron]

this is not a thing the original function cares about

[tiny zealot]

this is fun for sure but sometimes it leads to things that Feel Cursed like adding extra dups and throwing away values

[lucid iron]

hmm i also have to deal with people adding mods in middle of save that patches in new trigger rule

[uncut viper]

to me those are just part of the puzzle! case in point: i have two Dups in that last example i sent to make it work alongside the local

[brave fable]

a good programming rule of thumb is probably not to try and make your transpilers cute

[heady relic]

All my code must be adorable, that's non-negotiable

[uncut viper]

my better rule of thumb for myself is that if coding something one way makes it more enjoyable to me (within reason. no breaking things!) then i should do it that way

besides, if they work, it doesnt matter if theyre also cute

[calm nebula]

Nah, you should be making your work assembly cute

[brave fable]

on the other hand, prettying-up a transpiler is like putting a ribbon on a forklift

the forklift just needs to work and also the safety of everyone else in my work environment (read: other mod authors) depends on it

[glad zenith]

what is a transpiler? and what is a assembly?

[calm nebula]

A transpiler is when you do it for fun

[uncut viper]

assembly is when you do it for rollercoasters

[brave fable]

assembly is when you do it for honour

[calm nebula]

Or money

[glad zenith]

uh what?

[uncut viper]

for a more real answer: assembly code is basically writing computer instructions at the byte level. transpilers use an intermediate language code thats a little bit more abstracted out than that but not by too much

[glad zenith]

ohhh

i uh already know this just my brain turned off ig

thx for the reminder (?)

[heady relic]

In college I took an assembly course, which convinced me to only use the highest level languages I can.

[brave fable]

in uni i took two years of c++ and java, which convinced me to only use c#

valuable life lessons learned

[heady relic]

lol. I learned Java as a Junior in high school, where all of our tests were handwritten. I learned Java on hard mode.

[glad zenith]

compliers and transpilers

[uncut viper]

in any case i also think any forklift is better than a bool false prefix, bow or no bow

so as long as those still exist i will never feel bad about my transpilers

i will feel bad about the one bool false prefix i have instead

[glad zenith]

i use paper as my text editor kind vibe

"omg mr. insert name writes assembly on paper1!1!1"

[heady relic]

Pretty sure I'm the youngest person at my office that uses paper for anything. Things just make more sense when you write them down sometimes. Especially if I'm pre-planning some wierd logic.

[glad zenith]

office?

[brave fable]

for a genuine answer, an office is a sort of building where idiots go to push buttons on a keyboard and push paper

[glad zenith]

ah thanks i didnt know that

also like how do you push paper?

[heady relic]

You write what you're supposed to on it, and you push it to the next guy for him to sign it

[glad zenith]

tysm!! you guys are so helpful

[uncut viper]

"{{ModId}}_AlwaysPettableAnimals": {
  "Id": "{{ModId}}_AlwaysPettableAnimals",
  "Target": {
    "Type": "StardewValley.GameLocation",
    "Method": "CheckPetAnimal",
    "Parameters": [ "Microsoft.Xna.Framework.Vector2", "Farmer" ],
    "IsGetter": false, // Optional, only needed if it's a property getter
    "IsSetter": false, // Optional, only needed if it's a property setter
    "Assembly": "Stardew Valley" // Optional, defaults to "Stardew Valley"
  },
  "PatchType": "Postfix",
  "Condition": "SEASON winter", // Optional
  "ChangeResult": { // ChangeResult is entirely optional
    "Operation": "Assign",
    "Value": "true"
  },
  "Action": "spacechase0.SpaceCore_PlaySound crystal local", // Optional
  "Actions": [ "spacechase0.SpaceCore_PlaySound breakingGlass local" ], // Optional
}

not to interrupt the office talk but this isnt too bad of a model, right... obviously ignoring the fact that "a CP only mod maker probably isnt gonna know what method to target or what the types of things are" because thats irrelevant. if i cared about that this feature wouldnt exist. i dunno if i should keep the IsSetter/IsGetter fields or combine them into one field somehow (i separated them bc i figured it made it more clear what you wanted)

[glad zenith]

i feel like you should just keep the fields how they are

[brave fable]

what if you want to patch a constructor

[uncut viper]

ngl i did not think of those at all

[nocturne field]

Quick question, what looks more uhm, normal here. This (let's call it 18,) or this other one, (we'll dub it 19, i gotta take a screenshot of 19 just gimme a second)

[glad zenith]

18

[brave fable]

why does he sit on the chair arms like a cat

[nocturne field]

https://tenor.com/view/team-fortress2-tf2-medic-i-have-no-idea-no-idea-gif-17644007

[calm nebula]

Normal goth behavior

[glad zenith]

seriously though 19

[nocturne field]

Yeah, i'm gonna go with 19.

Now i just gotta ask the dev of this mod if i'm allowed to upload this...

off to the nexus

[glad zenith]

im a total idiot so i though the difference between the images was the brightness

[gilded comet]

... you should ask permission for a mod before making it

[nocturne field]

I don't intend to share this...Did i do something wrong?

i'll delete this if so

wasn't my intention

[brave fable]

the police have already been notified

[gilded comet]

oh no you're fine? i'm not sure what this is based off of etc.

[nocturne field]

regardless, i'm not planning to upload this until i get approval

and if i don't i will NOT upload it

[brave fable]

you can do whatever you like for personal use, it really is just uploading and sharing you need permission for

[gilded comet]

there's just been issues recently with like, people basically reuploading assets without permission

[nocturne field]

Really? damn.

[gilded comet]

you're alright!! good on you for asking first :)

[nocturne field]

NP, thank you.

[vernal crest]

I'm orange!

[uncut viper]

rip blue name

(grats tho!)

[vernal crest]

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