making-mods-general

[teal bridge]

That you should be able to do normally, I think. Though I haven't really tried.

You do have to be careful though, and again it's same as CSS and the like; depending on how you did your layout, horizontal and vertical size may or may not be independent.

[uncut viper]

your texture starts with Mod in the object but it needs to be Mods

[lone ice]

OH

let's see if that fixes everything 🤣

[lucid iron]

yea that is true, tho i doubt i would have to deal with wrapping at this time

[plucky reef]

quick dumb question, for assetrequested, I have a couple if statements for each png I'm loading, but once I get things finalized, can I make a tilesheet, call assetrequested once to pull the tilesheet, and then have the spells grab a tilesheet location off it? Would that work kinda like the usual defaultTilesheet part of projectile?

[lucid iron]

hm unsure what you mean

do you want to make a tilesheet.png with all your bullets on it?

or make your own version of cp editimage?

[plucky reef]

the first one. I have this right now because it's just "toss the png in, see if it works" but it looks kinda messy.

[lucid iron]

so you just have to get the correct sourcerect when you draw

[plucky reef]

oh sourcerect of course

[lucid iron]

game tends to represent this by sprite index

but ultimately u need the rect yes

[plucky reef]

I've seen it done more explicitly than sprite index but I think I remember where I saw an example. Can probably do it either way so I'll see which way becomes easier.

[lucid iron]

if u use temporaryanimatedsprite then they call it frame iirc

[plucky reef]

Might make it easier if someone wants to do a reskin too, if they can just swap out a single tilesheet.

[lone ice]

that definitely fixed it 🤣 thanks

[teal bridge]

So here's something strange... when I do SpriteBatch.Begin(...) and provide a RasterizerState with ScissorTestEnabled = true, it does do the clipping... but if I subsequently look up SpriteBatch.GraphicsDevice.ScissorTestEnabled, its value is false.

Is this an XNA bug?

Ok, it doesn't update the GraphicsDevice at all. The only way to access the actual state is with reflection.

[brave fable]

@next plaza hi there, just wondering gohw OnGiftGiven changed in sdv 1.6? it seems to just call on any gift checks now rather than on given

[calm nebula]

Well

Probe was added in 1.6

[next plaza]

Are you meaning BeforeGiftGiven or AfterGiftGiven

[brave fable]

oh dear, beforegiftgiven

my method is ongiftgiven :/

[next plaza]

Yeah, there's a probe argument on the event now

[brave fable]

ah

whereabouts in the base game code is it placed? i was getting a stack overflow using npc.tryReceiveActiveObject, so in there?

[calm nebula]

I'm not sure why you're getting a stack overflow tbh

First call is your box

But the second call is unboxed, right????

[brave fable]

i'm not sure, i'll just reorder the lines until it stops overflowing

[calm nebula]

Like, if you go "is not my box? Bai!" I don't see a stack overflow

[brave fable]

the issue is more likely that it is my box, since it'd endlessly retrigge the gift-given behaviour for the box

but it looks fine now actually

beforegiftgiven -> not probe & is box & npc.tryReceiveActiveObject(box.item) -> npc.receiveGift(box.item) -> player.remove(box)

[lucid iron]

i had to change this to new() { Width = Length.Content(), Height = Length.Stretch() } for fit width to content to work
https://github.com/focustense/StardewUI/blob/master/src/ScrollableFrameView.cs#L195

[teal bridge]

Sounds reasonable. Could probably externalize the ContentLayout same as is done for the FrameLayout.

It is just a convenience widget after all, trying to cover the "most common" configurations for a scrolling layout.

[lucid iron]

yay thank

[teal bridge]

I'll add it to the to-do list, haha.

Pimping the latest stuff coming out with it, just 'cause. It took longer than expected but was pretty fun.

Sliders, sprite animations and about a dozen other bug fixes are all going into the framework proper.

[foggy crown]

Is there any convenient way to make a daily question with npc dialogue? I want to make it so you can say no any number of times, but you can only say yes once per day. I've gotten it to work partially with $y and $action together, but there's always an empty dialogue box that pops up after the action runs, and an index out of bounds error on a custom trigger action so I've been unable to code any "one yes daily" functionality.

[hallow prism]

Maybe with query

But i cant help further because im going to sleep and dont really pucture what you want to do anyway

[velvet narwhal]

1.6.9 fixed the $action dialogue with a blank box thing but I assume by yes only once then an addmail function to the yes option and the no stays blank?

Honestly BETAS can do what you want with the replacer dialogue upon player hitting yes, my brain is fried and can't think of the vanilla way to do it

[foggy crown]

not gonna lie, I thought 1.6.9 was already out so I was very confused for a bit, I'll see what I can manage with queries and mail, thanks!

[velvet narwhal]

Tis not public release yet

[foggy crown]

I've just opted in and updated so hopefully it doesn't break anything and I'll be able to test dialogue shenanigans

[velvet narwhal]

Oh you can probably do conversationtopic upon "yes"

Since conversation topic eats everything except spouse dialogue

[rancid temple]

Depends on what you're using, there's definitely still a couple broken mods

[foggy crown]

Only really using my other mod so it'll be a good test run anyway

[brave fable]

pathos will PAY for this

[next plaza]

It's a net field so do hasBeenKissedToday = { true },

[calm nebula]

Lol

Kitty deserves head kissy

....I meant the cat in blueberries mos

[next plaza]

I figured that's what you meant 😛

[calm nebula]

Tbh I get confused every time pathos calls you kitty

[brave fable]

is this a legal move

what dark arts

[velvet narwhal]

I don't question Casey I just follow

[calm nebula]

Question my good rhubarb

[tiny zealot]

issuing an important correction: earlier versions of the data model in Data/Characters had "SocialTabIconSourceRect", which was used in the social tab only. my contribution was to ask for it to be used in the Billboard (calendar) menu as well, when showing birthdays. after granting that request, pathos renamed it MugShotSourceRect.
we regret the error.

[calm nebula]

Why not enter your cat into data/characters

And use the normal spawn gsq

[brave fable]

i dont know what those are

this mod is from 1.3 or something

[next plaza]

He does?

[calm nebula]

!1.6

[ocean sail]

Stardew Valley 1.6 is the recent major game update, which added lots of content and modding changes. See...

• 1.6 release notes (scroll up for patches);
• changes for mod authors.

It released for PC on March 19th; console and mobile are coming soon.

To use this command, type !1.6.

[next plaza]

I never noticed

[calm nebula]

He used to!

[brave fable]

ohhh are we on 1.6 now

so anyway the cat is basically just the old mariner but a cat

does he use data/characters

[calm nebula]

You can make an antisocial npc

Using data/characters

Even birdie is in there these days

[brave fable]

i dont know what birdie is but if the old mariner is in there i'll take it lol

[velvet narwhal]

Content patcher has usurped a lot of things in the wake of 1.6

[calm nebula]

Good

I am willing to offer more to be adopted

I'm too old for this shit. I'm now "why does everything hurt" years old

[next plaza]

Technically it's more the game itself and not CP

[tiny zealot]

i prefer to phrase it as "more things are controlled by data (content), and so fall under CP's purview"

[next plaza]

Since CP just edits the game assets

[velvet narwhal]

Honestly trying to annoy linkoid to pr smapi/cp for his crazy yaml thing only for him to be pinged for whitespace errors

[next plaza]

How about we all just adopt SpaceCore content instead? /s

[calm nebula]

I swear

[velvet narwhal]

Spacecore gonna be the next content patcher kirby

[teal bridge]

I think you're younger than I am. I'm "I'm not even going to ask why that hurts" years old.

[calm nebula]

As late as last year I was at "I know why I hurt I deserve it."

[velvet narwhal]

Listen if you bring in yarn for events I will be your evangelist

[calm nebula]

(Hiit training. Almost always hiit training)

[brave fable]

i was born 'i deserve it' years old

[next plaza]

Unfortunately I think yarn is better off as a standalone dependency since it's kinda large to integrate into SpaceCore

"large"

[teal bridge]

kinda large to integrate into SpaceCore
I'm almost surprised to hear those words.

[calm nebula]

What is yarn

[next plaza]

https://docs.yarnspinner.dev/

[next plaza]

I do think about these things to some extent 😛

[lucid iron]

why r there so many tech things named yarn

[teal bridge]

SpaceBorg

[brave fable]

i have to assume yarn is to do with rolling strings

[next plaza]

Hey now

[lucid iron]

is the knitting programmer overlap that big

[teal bridge]

All other frameworks will be assimilated

[next plaza]

I intentionally don't absorb other people's frameworks

[calm nebula]

So

[teal bridge]

Haha, I know, but the size of it still conjures up that image to me.

[next plaza]

I tend to avoid a feature if it's in another (unless there's some way I can differentiate it or need to, like the spawning stuff to get dungeons doing properly)

[calm nebula]

Most women I know irl either knit or crochet

[brave fable]

to be fair tho if you crochet or knit you really do become a magnet for other addicts, the yarn just naturally tangles together

[calm nebula]

Almost every person I know is a software or hardware engineer

(Again, irl)

[teal bridge]

I'd say, if you can do it better, then do it better. Though once you hit 1 million uniques then the "two cakes" principle does start to get fuzzier.

[calm nebula]

(There is a reason why I assume everyone who is currently in college doing a technical degree knows python.)

[next plaza]

Yeah, I don't want to overshadow other people's work sort of thing.

I feel like I kinda need to with SpaceCore being so used (though not as much as in 1.5 since JA relied on it)

[uncut viper]

(is it bad to admit that I don't?)

[next plaza]

I can use python? But I don't know it well and don't like the syntax

[teal bridge]

If there's a mod out there that's on the good-enough side and I want to add a few tweaks or fixes then I'll submit a PR, and have done several of them. But there are a fair number of mods that are simply poor execution on an otherwise good idea.

[calm nebula]

Okay I'm the last person I the office. Do you think I can get away with taking some popcorn

[teal bridge]

I think they're fair game to redo.

[next plaza]

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[calm nebula]

(It is the ceo's favorite snack)

[next plaza]

Ah

[calm nebula]

But technically it's for everyone

[uncut viper]

is your resume up to date

[rancid temple]

LOL

[calm nebula]

Yeah I sent out PRs once

[brave fable]

depends if you need a raise

[calm nebula]

But at some point I figured

[next plaza]

That explains the superceding my very rough attempt at radial menus 😅

[queen valley]

I really appreciate how easy it made adding my custom skill Im working on =]

[tiny zealot]

i have only sent one PR so far, and it was to casey, for spacecore. (i'm sorry i left some of my trace output in by mistake, spacecore users please forgive me)

[next plaza]

(And to be fair, I have way too many mods to maintain... hence most not being updated for 1.6)

[calm nebula]

I used to send a lot of PRs

I also kinda realized at some point

[next plaza]

I should've caught it in review, it's fine

[brave fable]

by the way, spacecore still has my wallet sprite

you might want to remove that lol

[next plaza]

There's some PRs I accepted during my depression phase a few months ago that I really should've taken a closer eye to

[brave fable]

unless it doesn't and i just merged folders

[next plaza]

Good point!

[teal bridge]

Ahaha, well I didn't specifically mean that mod, but I guess I did go into it thinking I could make it look better at least. I was actually thinking of GIG and some of the fishing mods.

[calm nebula]

Gig is not a name I recognize

[next plaza]

Neither I

[teal bridge]

Are you not finishing your sentences, or is there something wrong with my Discord client...

[tiny zealot]

Ginger Island Ghosts (wrong answers only)

[brave fable]

ginger island goblins

[uncut viper]

Good Immersive Ginger

[calm nebula]

Didn't finish sentence

Had to deal with popcorn

[teal bridge]

Garbage In Garbage Can, I put that out about a month ago. (It's not that popular, so don't worry, I'm not offended.)

[next plaza]

Ah, that one

I'm a hoarder

[teal bridge]

I have to update the SDUI version in that one too, now that I found out the scrolling UI was totally broken back then.

[next plaza]

Yes, I DO need those two rows of a big chest of stone

And the sap

And the slime

[teal bridge]

You can put it on limit mode, though, and still hoard whatever you want as long as the inventory doesn't get full.

[lucid iron]

I would like to do a shop menu mod at some point too

[calm nebula]

The sentence ends with "I preferred dealing with my own context"

[next plaza]

Yeah, I really should update Better Shop Menu...

Grid mode is so nice

[lucid iron]

I used the unofficial update someone did but they did not handle item icons correct

So 1.6 items r borked

[next plaza]

Oof

[lucid iron]

The scrolling was also resetting but unsure if due to the fork

[teal bridge]

Anyway, as far as this, they were all for mods I actually wanted to use, so it was just logical for me to do.

I'll admit I'm not eager to go after totally random mods fixing their crap just because, lol

[lucid iron]

I kinda want the shopping cart thing lefauxmatt has too

Tho I never had chance to actually use it

[next plaza]

Yeah, that makes total sense

[calm nebula]

I did a bunch of profiling about 1.5 years ago

And would send out PRs if I found something

(Of course, only over the mod group I was using.)

[hoary lake]

Question....can i use non food items in a cooking recipe for json assets?
we apparently do not have jam in the game so i am considering Jamborite which has the word jam in it...

[calm nebula]

Do not recommend tbh

[calm nebula]

Sure!

[teal bridge]

Because performance optimization is a pain? Or because the PRs were a pain?

[hoary lake]

also Hi friends!

[lucid iron]

You can use all object I think

[calm nebula]

Hmmm

[lucid iron]

And 1.6.9 is supposed to let you cook big craftables too

With qualified id

[calm nebula]

I wonder if you can use any random qualified item id

[brave fable]

.. is it

[hoary lake]

and if you want to know what i am making.
have you watched friends?

[teal bridge]

That's not serious, is it? Cooking your machines?

[calm nebula]

You end up just flipping out at windmills I think

[lucid iron]

#making-mods-general message

Maybe I interpreted wrong lol

[teal bridge]

flipping out at windmills
I know what the metaphor refers to in general but I don't think I understand the analogy in context.

[lucid iron]

Does that let you put qualified id in ingredients?

[brittle pasture]

interesting, this would mean Craft Anything Framework's no longer needed

[brave fable]

unless i also dont understand it, this was a fix for my recipe output rather than input

[lucid iron]

Ah I did read it wrong alas

[calm nebula]

No, Mr. CA put qid ingredients in earlier iirc to support certain 1.6 machines

[calm nebula]

This was over outputs

[brave fable]

unfortunately, we can't yet make crunchy coleslaw with mayonnaise machine

[lucid iron]

Ah so I can feed ppl an entire keg?

[teal bridge]

Turn all those useless auto-grabbers into auto-petters.

[calm nebula]

Likely only object subclasses though

[lucid iron]

Yeah ig the deluxe worm bin does take a worm bin in ingredients

[brittle pasture]

that covers furniture, which is like 95% of use cases so good enough for me

[lucid iron]

So cooking ought to work?

[calm nebula]

Spending more time staring at flame graphs and not actually, you know, playing the game

[brittle pasture]

(ok I forgor weapons, dang, but still)

[calm nebula]

Not recommended

Play the damn game

Be happy

[teal bridge]

Ah, I see.

[calm nebula]

Don't bother to worry

[teal bridge]

Does that mean you've actually played? I thought you'd stopped that too.

[calm nebula]

Three years ago?

[teal bridge]

All this stuff hasn't really stopped me from playing yet. Although I did put my new playthrough on hold until this fishing mod is done, because early-game fishing is just too boring.

[calm nebula]

Tbh I do enjoy a nice flame graph

[teal bridge]

If a mod is written reasonably well then I don't mind going over it for performance optimization. Sometimes it's a fun problem.

[calm nebula]

Looking forward to getting some free time back to spend with flame graphs XD

[teal bridge]

Perfetto is nice

[brave fable]

is there a very flexible ja to cp converter around

[next plaza]

!converters

[ocean sail]

A lot of converter tools have been made by helpful members of the community to update outdated mods or convert existing mods to modern or alternative frameworks, and for 1.6. Here's a list:

• Convert XNB mods to Content Patcher
• Convert pants/skirt spritesheets to Fashion Sense
• Convert Custom Furniture mods to DGA/1.6 Content Patcher
• Convert visual Content Patcher mods to Alternative Textures
• Convert BFAV mods to work with 1.6 Content Patcher
• Convert TMXLoader mods to 1.6 Content Patcher
• Convert Custom Music mods to 1.6 Content Patcher
• Convert Shop Tile Framework mods to 1.6 Content Patcher
• Convert hair spritesheets and JSON Assets shirts & hats to Fashion Sense
• Convert regular Content Patcher to i18n format
• Convert JSON Assets to Content Patcher
• Convert fish data from field names to slash delimited values
• Convert markdown text to Nexus' bbcode
• Convert Custom Ore Nodes and Custom Resource Clumps mods to Item Extensions Framework
• Convert Content Patcher Animations to SpaceCore
• Convert More than Necessary to Content Patcher
• Convert SAAT to Content Patcher

To use this command, type !converters.

[next plaza]

I don’t know how flexible that one is

Just know that it exists

[brave fable]

Currently this cannot convert clothing (shirts/pants/boots/hats) because it was made to convert Raffadax and that mod does not have Json Assets apparel.

[next plaza]

Oof

[drowsy pewter]

Lumina is a proponent of "load JA mod ingame and patch export the data file"

god's own converter

[next plaza]

Ah, good point

[brave fable]

oh, and i just removed the ja api from the mod

good advice though

[silver snow]

hm if im doing this whole brain thing right, targeted bait should just affect the probability that any other item is chosen by making it the sum of itself and all other elements except the targeted one

so like if we have [a,b,c] and are targeting b, getting the prob that a is chosen in a shuffled list should be ((a*a) + (a*c))

or to simplify, a * (a + c)

that might make it easy enough to fit calculating targeted bait into here.. hm

I got to this conclusion because:

• The list does not reshuffle itself upon rerolling for targeted bait (might not matter though)
• Only one reroll is done, and only for targeted bait. Anything else just returns the fish
• Targeted bait passing for its target fish just returns that fish rather than rerolling

[brave fable]

i knew updating sailor styles was going to be bad but even with patch export it's going to take years just to fix all the data before i even work out how to split all the hats and stuff into themed groups again

tens of thousands of clicks...

maybe even billions

4000 lines of shirts....................

[calm nebula]

sounds like my closet

[silver snow]

and if the fish the bait is targeting isnt in there, same probs likely

[silver snow]

there ought to be a way to automate that

[calm nebula]

fwiw, this cannot be right

if b == 1, then a cannot be caught

(skip first shadow, catch b)

so the lack of dependency on b is a dead giveaway something is wrong

[silver snow]

wdym? if a is caught initially, it goes back to the start, and rolls the chance for a again

[calm nebula]

it doesn't go to the start

[silver snow]

ah dammit ur right. it goes to the next fish

hmmmmm

[calm nebula]

(also, just fyi, the chances are changed when you have targeted bait.)

for most fish, it's multiplied by 1.66

[silver snow]

i get the probs like that beforehand

nw

the actual alg is done after probs like that are handled

[patent lance]

@teal bridge: two if there hasn't been any update. I seem to be almost at the point where I need a to-do list.) (1d ago)

[plucky reef]

Is JA deprecated?

[tiny zealot]

yes. it's keeping the lights on for old mods, but you should use CP to add items in 1.6

[teal bridge]

Haha, worst rem!nder ever.

At least it explains why the bot thought I was talking to it.

[calm nebula]

lol, pathos

this is great

[lucid iron]

helper.Events.GameLoop.SaveLoaded always run even on brand new save?

[teal bridge]

I sure hope so. I'm depending on that.

Oh wait, no I'm not, I'm using DayStarted everywhere. Still, the save is created before gameplay actually starts, as evidenced by the fact that quitting on day 1 still leaves the save.

Why do you need SaveLoaded to run anyway?

[lucid iron]

hm i guess it can just be lazy loaded

i am put some stuff in SaveData

[teal bridge]

I normally write to save data in the Saving event.

[lucid iron]

oh hm i thought u can call WriteSaveData as much as you want, it only gets saved for real at end of day

[teal bridge]

That is correct.

Saving is fired just before the real save data gets written.

[lucid iron]

yea ig i can move the write func there

but i was put ReadSaveData in SaveLoaded

[calm nebula]

(does it matter)

[teal bridge]

So the normal workflow, especially if treating nullable warnings as errors, which I hope you are, is:

• Write private Data myData = new() in the field initializer to always have a default instance
• Try to read Data in SaveLoaded, if it exists then overwrite myData
• Save it again in Saving

[lucid iron]

prob not but ill feel better

[teal bridge]

You should do ReadSaveData in SaveLoaded, but don't depend on it being there.

[calm nebula]

if they have not saved before, all data should be default anyways

[teal bridge]

Exactly - even if the event fires, the data for a new save won't have your mod data.

Same with a save that isn't new, but was created before your mod was installed.

[lucid iron]

yea so i just put that in lazy loader

[calm nebula]

(anyways, the other common flow would be something like

private Data? myData

internal Data MyData => 
  myData ??= helper.LoadSaveData("mypath");

I'm rusty so that might not even be valid C# anymore

[teal bridge]

I guess you could implement it as a lazy loader? But it's really not necessary, just set a non-null field initializer on it.

I just don't let Data be null, it starts out as private Data myData = new()

[calm nebula]

(forgot a very important equals sign)

[teal bridge]

Even if the save data is expensive to load, which it rarely is, this is one instance when I'd prefer to incur the cost right away, while loading the save, while the player is expecting to have to wait, vs. at some random time during gameplay.

[calm nebula]

(I used to have a 1 day rule. If the player was more likely than not to see the content in a day, I would immediately load it. If the player was more likely than not to NOT see the content in a day, I would lazy load it.)

rule of thumb more than anything else

[silver snow]

ok im back after doing the basic calculations for [0.25, 0.5, 1] where 0.5 is the target. this is going to be annoying

[lucid iron]

why is dotnet dying every 30 seconds

[silver snow]

ok so maybe i could still do this without having to rewrite the original alg

if there's a, b, c, d and i'm targeting c, after getting the avg chance for each, there should be chances of :
[c, c+a, c+b, c+d, c+a+b, c+a+d, c+b+d] and potentially more for the new weighted prob that c is chosen

could probably average all those and do some other cool things

[lucid iron]

@teal bridge did you forget to commit OptionsSlider

[silver snow]

idk this is probably just me coping with not wanting to redo the math i already spent a while trying hard on, but i want to believe

[teal bridge]

Just left out the namespace reference, that type is part of SDV.

[lucid iron]

foiled by not using the template once again

[teal bridge]

Was trying to keep the half-finished dropdown work out of it and left that import line out by accident.

[lucid iron]

hm so i want to make a text button widget

what is best way to do that?

[teal bridge]

Actually the template wouldn't handle that since it's in StardewValley.Menus, not the root.

[lucid iron]

i was try to find some kind of hover event

[teal bridge]

Well, typically buttons don't do that in Stardew. It's more common to animate a sprite on hover, which you can do with HoverScale. But you've got PointerEnter and PointerLeave if you really want to do something like tweak the background color during a hover.

And the best example you can find of those pointer events is... in HoverScale, since it uses them. Very simple usage.

[lucid iron]

sounds good ill do that

[teal bridge]

I'd been trying to make myself finish the dropdown but just ran out of steam today. Slider works great though, better than the GMCM version (sorry Casey!).

[muted sable]

                "Shin.Florist_LucienSpousePortrait": {
                    "Id": "Shin.Florist_LucienSpousePortrait",
                    "ItemId": "Shin.Florist_LucienPortrait",
                    "AvailableStock": 1,
                    "AvailableStockLimit": "Global",
                    "Condition": "PLAYER_NPC_RELATIONSHIP Current Lucien Married"
                  }
            }``` Does anyone know how to make this item permanently unavailable after the player has bought it?

[uncut viper]

you could always set a mail flag on purchase and make that part of the condition too, but what if they accidentally lose it?

[muted sable]

Oh right good point. I can't really think of a better way to implement it. Should the condition check for inventory?

[velvet narwhal]

you can put it into the travelling merchant sales

wait that's where it's at huh

[uncut viper]

you can check inventory, though it wont be found if they put it on the wall

[velvet narwhal]

can you set the object to "cannot be trashed" or something

[uncut viper]

i mean you could. that might be found kinda annoying though if they eventually dont want it anymore though

[velvet narwhal]

sve has it set to just player_hearts 14

[uncut viper]

that wouldnt make it unavailable after purchase though

[velvet narwhal]

onpurchase is a c# thing isn't it

[lucid iron]

Hm I can't seem to write a HashSet into save data

[uncut viper]

no, shop entries have ActionOnPurchase

sorry, ActionsOnPurchase, plural

it is of course limited to trigger action actions though

[velvet narwhal]

oh the negation always screws me up when it comes to flags

i was gonna say, action on purchase, setflag, if they have said flag, don't let them purchase, i don't know how to guarantee if it's "lost" though

(i tried digging into the lostandfound code but idk how to handle that)

[uncut viper]

i dont think there is a way to check whether furniture exists anywhere with just content patcher

[velvet narwhal]

i salute leroy, this furniture code has me confused

[muted sable]

Since theres no real way to check would players be annoyed if i make the furniture always available in the travelling cart?

[uncut viper]

you could tie it to a random chance if you want

if you did like SYNCED_RANDOM day lucienPortrait 0.5 as part of the GSQ condition it'd be a 50% chance each day of being for sale

(though ofc the days when the traveling cart isnt there wont matter but there's no week interval, just tick, day, season, and year)

[muted sable]

Okay that makes sense, i'll do that ty button

[uncut viper]

you could even make it increasingly more likely to appear over the course of the month if you used SYNCED_SUMMER_RAIN_RANDOM. not super useful but hey! you could

though interestingly despite the wiki saying it accepts <base chance> and <day multiplier> parameters it doesnt seem to actually even use those?

[velvet narwhal]

oh--i should've asked this dang question when casey was around
are the new default folders going to automatically understand even if all of my keys are still i18n, or should i specify i18n/dialogue:
i'm about to begrudgingly set a folder for 1.6.8 just so i can see how it works

[uncut viper]

can you explain what you mean a bit more

[velvet narwhal]

ah lemme see if i can dig where the patchnotes for it, it's the new i18n folder splitting process where default can be turned into a folder, with the other things being .jsons, like dialogue.json/etc

[uncut viper]

the key thing would be a content patcher thing though right

[velvet narwhal]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Translation#i18n_folder

yeah

i'm just wondering if it'll understand how to pull it, or if i have to specify, i don't really know how that'll work, or hells, if i have to include it

[uncut viper]

lookin at the code for it it seems like it just adds all the keys into one big pool of keys so it should be functionally the same

so long as you dont mix and match folders and top-level files for one language

[velvet narwhal]

... interesting

oh i know what i need to do, right

i still gotta think of the workaround

wait --would BETAS work for that

[uncut viper]

map actions and other map stuff are entirely foreign to me

[velvet narwhal]

right it's NPC not tile

[uncut viper]

i dont know how anything map related works except for basics

[velvet narwhal]

good to know my migration from custom npc to a jumbled mess of a skeleton of an expansion is smoothly working though

i just realized, yeah, it yoinked straight from a .json in my default with a benign name, so this is great, i can separate it based on npcs or whatever i need it for in regard to the default folder

[vernal crest]

Does the USA have a govt conservation department? I see there is the Fish & Wildlife Service. Do they employ park rangers and manage hiking huts and stuff?

[uncut viper]

thatd probably be the National Park Service for the most part

[velvet narwhal]

i think it's state-by-state?

[vernal crest]

National Park Service sounds like it might be what I want

[velvet narwhal]

https://www.nps.gov/aboutus/index.htm

i don't hike, i sit indoors like a roach

[uncut viper]

Fish & Wildlife also does some stuff but i also think you want NPS.

[vernal crest]

Yes I think NPS makes sense since I am envisioning Cindersap as a National Park

[uncut viper]

Fish & Wildlife has like. full police powers and idk if NPS has that.
im also just assuming this is mod related somehow and that you're gonna make a reference to one in stardew

(i didnt think about it at first and am a little surprised at myself for how ready i was to just go along with it. like yeah sure a question about NPS and FWC. thats normal here)

[vernal crest]

Yeah Hiria is a park ranger doing conservation, heritage, and trail/hut maintenance work.

I appreciate both your responses, thank you :)

I am mostly basing her work off NZ DOC rangers but I figured I should at least check US stuff in case it's noticeably different.

[calm nebula]

(The writer's dilemma: "why yes officer I had a reason to Google 'can you use powdered glass to murder someone'?")

[uncut viper]

i did a lot of writing before i did modding so i know this all too well

[calm nebula]

(The answer is no.)

[uncut viper]

(on the other hand, the answer to whether or not NPS has policing powers is "very much yes." so dont push Hiria's buttons)

[vernal crest]

[uncut viper]

drop one joja cola on the ground? straight to stardew jail

[velvet narwhal]

drop joja cola in the lake? get drop kicked into the lake

[uncut viper]

and then get fined by stardew Fish & Wildlife for disturbing the fish habitat

[velvet narwhal]

wait does hiria take me on a lil hiking excursion, i want this now

[vernal crest]

I was considering scope creeping into a hiking experience lol

Currently she goes away for a few days each season to go check and maintain the trails and huts within her purview.

[calm nebula]

Scope creeping into a hiking experience?

Hiria hard crashes the game if you don't go outside and touch grass?

[vernal crest]

Lol no the opposite. Giving you more outdoors in your indoors. Maybe a choose-your-own-adventure hiking event in the vein of Airyn's Secret Forest Walk.

[uncut viper]

can you make a Firewatch mod to go alongside her?

if its not too much trouble

thank you!

[vernal crest]

xD

[velvet narwhal]

oh aba's gonna go into the cinematic events?

[vernal crest]

Aba was considering this

[velvet narwhal]

aba's gonna write all of the dialogue then strongarm me to script said cinematic event?

[uncut viper]

aba made the mistake of saying it publicly and now has given expectations

./j

[vernal crest]

Don't worry I will just procrastinate for so long you will forget this discussion ever happened.

[velvet narwhal]

i will forget by the morn, i'm roughly 2 beers deep with no luck of sleeping

[uncut viper]

hey marubot remind me in—

[fathom hound]

Remind me to check up on Aba’s cinematic progress

LMAO button same brain

[fathom hound]

Can’t sleep might mod instead

[scenic bison]

Sleep? NZ? Aus? I think east coast America are waking up by now

[vernal crest]

Surely too early in the evening for Aus, unless she's a real early bird lol

[brave fable]

(eastern australia isn't even at 9pm yet lol)

[vernal crest]

Yep only just past 8:30 for us

[fathom hound]

It’s almost 7 am for me but I woke up at 3 am and can’t go back

[vernal crest]

I hate when that happens

[fathom hound]

[scenic bison]

active minds

[vale veldt]

As someone with insomnia: that sucks and I hate it too

[fathom hound]

Idk what to do

It’s just bad because I get like allergy attacks when I wake up. Idk why

So ima just mod instead heh

[vernal crest]

Can you take drowsy antihistamines at night and hope they both deal with the allergies and keep you asleep?

[scenic bison]

Hey Purrpling

[brave fable]

i hate this mod. i hate this mod so fucking much

[scenic bison]

is that someone pushing?

[brave fable]

i need a midwife to push this many changes

[floral portal]

Hello.
I am currently checking the operation of my first “machine” type mod that I created.
I have succeeded in crafting a machine in the game, but could not get it to function as a “machine”.

The details of the error are as follows English is not my native language, so I don't know how to successfully correct the cause of the error. Is there a wiki page that might help?

[Content Patcher] Can't apply data patch "(CP)Bomb Manufacture Machine > Include data/Machine.json > EditData Data/Machines > entry #1" to Data/Machines: failed converting entry to the expected type 'StardewValley.GameData.Machines.MachineData': Cannot deserialize the current JSON array (e.g. [1,2,3]) into type 'StardewValley.GameData.Machines.MachineOutputRule' because the type requires a JSON object (e.g. {"name":"value"}) to deserialize correctly.
To fix this error either change the JSON to a JSON object (e.g. {"name":"value"}) or change the deserialized type to an array or a type that implements a collection interface (e.g. ICollection, IList) like List<T> that can be deserialized from a JSON array. JsonArrayAttribute can also be added to the type to force it to deserialize from a JSON array.
Path 'OutputRules[0]'..

https://smapi.io/json/none/c28273d57e4740a8a0a7345417197207
The JOSN regarding the behavior of the machine is also noted.

[finite ginkgo]

You have an extra set of [ ] you shouldn't have

[vernal crest]

Yeah the [ on line 35 and the ] on line 65 should be removed.

[floral portal]

I see. Thank you very much for your very specific points!
Since this was the first time I had edited the official JSON of the machine operation and various JSON references regarding the operation, I honestly couldn't figure out what the problem was and was at a loss.
I'll go fix it right away！

[still frost]

im having trouble figuring out which frame on the farmers spritesheet is the kiss frame, i want things to line up for the npc im making but i dont know what height the lips/hands should be

[ocean sail]

@still frost You leveled up to Cowpoke. You can now speak in our voice channels and share images in all channels!

[rancid temple]

Might be easier to line it up with another NPC, but also if you aren't lined up doesn't it just mash the sprites against each other terribly anyways?

[still frost]

another npc is a good shout, and yeah probably but im a perfectionist, its a bit of a problem lmao

[vernal crest]

Are you looking at this page for reference? https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Farmer_sprite#Kissing

[rancid temple]

What is that?

It looks like a series of... hats?

[brave fable]

it's the kissing sprites for a long dyeable dress, of course

[rancid temple]

This loops back around to pants are cursed huh

[still frost]

i have no idea what im looking at there ngl lmao

[brave fable]

believe me when i say cursed pants never left us

[rancid temple]

I'm really not sure how that image is supposed to help with kissing lmao

[vernal crest]

The kissing one is in the blue rectangle, I believe

[brave fable]

maybe when you're older

[vernal crest]

The notation is explained further up the page

[rancid temple]

Think like when I'm 50 maybe?

[still frost]

i read the notation section and its not any clearer how this is supposed to help me line up my npcs kiss frame with the farmers

[vernal crest]

I think it would probably be faster to test Natalie's kissing location in game, adjust her in the direction you think she needs to go, then test again than learn how to interpret farmer sprites.

I have not bothered to learn how the farmer works and I think I probably never will lol

[rancid temple]

Given how farmer sprites work, I would definitely approach it from that direction last

[calm nebula]

If you overlay the dress sprites over the farmer sprites

They are (kinda) indexed the same?

It's like a you know

Paper doll

Just 100+ if them for different frames

[still frost]

i think imma see if i can just screenshot the farmer during a kiss frame and count the pixels lmao

[rancid temple]

In game the scale is I think 4x

[still frost]

?

[rancid temple]

Everything is scaled up

So the pixels you see in game are not the same as you see in the files

[still frost]

well yeah okay, but the scale doesnt affect the number of pixels you see though, like sure one pixel is made up of multiple after its scaled up but i can still count pixel by pixel

[rancid temple]

Pretty sure if you open the farmer base, the frame you're looking for is at 80, 512

[tiny zealot]

101 is the farmer's kissing frame, i'm pretty sure. do not worry too much about lining up your NPC perfectly, since 1. the female and male farmers are different heights and 2. the game doesn't force the sprites to the same Y pixel so it won't line up anyway

just get it in the ballpark and you're good

[rancid temple]

Lmao, I was just testing that, male sprites are indeed an entire pixel taller

[still frost]

good point, getting into the ballpark feels pretty important here cause im pretty sure my npc is fairly tall at 29 pixels lol

not including her bow abigails only 25 lol

[tiny zealot]

mine is 19, and that's generous, so i understand completely

[drowsy pewter]

ichor your npc is a mouse

[still frost]

yeah i shaved a pixel off natalie(my npcs) height cause its just a flyaway hair lol

[rancid temple]

For a while I didn't even know it was supposed to be a kiss, I just thought it was a hug

[drowsy pewter]

me too lol

its still a hug to me :/

[rancid temple]

I think it reads better as a hug lmao

The awkwardness of mashing the sprites together without matching their Y position works better for hugging than kissing

Especially with the wild height differences

[still frost]

still gotta at least match height somewhat for the marriage kiss though, so might as well try and get fairly close

[vernal crest]

Hiria is 31 pixels tall if you count her hair

I don't know how tall she would be if she was bald although I think I have drawn her as bald so I could count

[still frost]

atm the main issue is abagail is 15 pixels from floor to lips and my npc is 21 lol, she gonna be bending the knees a bit, good thing i made her wedding dress straight and flowy so i can kinda try and show that

[vernal crest]

In the opposite experience, my wife thought I was running around kissing all the NPCs and was scandalised lol

[frigid hollow]

it's used for both isn't it, there's just a heart on a kiss and a smiley face on a hug

[vernal crest]

Yup

[rancid temple]

Oh I didn't know there was a literal difference lol

[vernal crest]

It is just the emoji and sound that are different. The sprites are identical.

[frigid hollow]

yeah, krobus uses the same animation when he's your roommate but it's a smiley face instead of a heart to separate it from kissing (and sound yeah)

[rancid temple]

Oh I guess I've never done a roommate playthrough

I was trying to think when I'd ever see the hug lol

[vernal crest]

(When you download the mod Hugs and Kisses and then run around town hugging everyone and scandalising your wife, of course)

I had to search the wiki to see if hugs were an actual vanilla thing lol

[gentle sleet]

Is the hugs and kisses the one where the romance-able NPCs can hug each other?

[vernal crest]

Yes, but more importantly for me, it also lets you hug all your friends (if they are romanceable and therefore have a kiss sprite). So I can romance nobody and hug everyone (ish)!

[gentle sleet]

I should download it. I have it on my list on my phone, but I always forget to download it on my steam deck

[void aspen]

Uh anyone knows where the main screen menu sprites are located?

[frigid hollow]

if i had to guess in cursors

ooh, not this time (?)

[void aspen]

It has some image sprites, I was thinking about ui mostly

[calm nebula]

Minigames iirc

[frigid hollow]

oop yeah there it is

[void aspen]

Also unpacking cursors.xnb makes some water pixels green

Thanks a lot

[frigid hollow]

titlebuttons and profilebutton (though what platform is profile button for?)

[rancid temple]

I don't have any un-platform specific profile buttons

All mine are prepended with Xb1

[mortal stag]

            "Action": "EditData",
            "Target": "Data/Crops",
            "Fields": {
            //Strawberry Seeds
            "745": {
                "HarvestMinStack:" 1,
                "HarvestMaxStack:" 2
            },
            //Blueberry Seeds
            "481": {
                "HarvestMinStack:" 6,
                "HarvestMaxStack:" 9
            }
            },    
            "When": {
                "IsJojaMartComplete": true,
                "Enable CC/Joja Completion Scaling": true,
                }
        },```

Getting: Line     Field     Error
1492     Changes[19].Fields.745     Invalid character after parsing property name. Expected ':' but got: 1. Path 'Changes[19].Fields.745', line 1492, position 23.

Which is the line under Strawberry Seeds showing "HarvestMinStack:" 1,

I have no idea what is wrong with this line

[rancid temple]

Your : need to be outside of the quotes

[mortal stag]

oh, thanks

[rancid temple]

"HarvestMinStack": 1

[mortal stag]

one of those things that just won't solve itself no matter how much you stare at it

[rancid temple]

The longer you stare, the less it makes sense until someone else points it out, kind of situation

[plucky reef]

there's def points where walking away and doing something else is more productive than continuing to code.

let it sit in the back of your brain to find a solution, or come back with fresh eyes and you find the problem point instantly (or someone else's fresh eyes).

[calm nebula]

(Or use VSCode. Which would have pointed out the issue immediately)

[plucky reef]

man there's already so many good rings, not much more unique things I could do with them.

[silver snow]

there definitely are such points

and then theres targeted bait

[calm nebula]

Teo, once upon a time I wanted to make a junimo trinket

It would wander around harvesting for you

Or picking up forage

[plucky reef]

what happened with that idea?

[finite ginkgo]

Atra started knitting

Presumably

[plucky reef]

my mod has a jumino trinket idea but more combat-focused, a utility-focused option would be cool too.

[calm nebula]

I had a bunch of ideas for noncombat trinkets tbh

Fairy with hammer anyone?

[finite ginkgo]

A fairy with a comically large hammer would be a great trinket

[calm nebula]

Many reasons. I no longer have the spare time for further mod development

When I get some of my spare time back I have other projects I want to prioritize

[plucky reef]

that's fair. Mind if I use the idea?

6 colors of juminos, 6 types of trinkets...

[calm nebula]

Go ahead

[deep cypress]

Maybe a watering junimo, a seed planting junimo, a junimo who hoes any open dirt, a junimo who harvests crops, a animal petting junimo, and a forage finding and getting junimo?

[silver pelican]

having trouble understanding why this recipe wont work.

"{{ModId}}.Turon": "-14 1 -75 1 246 1 -5 1 247 1/99 99/{{ModId}}.Turon"
The 2nd ingredient shows null in-game . -75 is any vegetable category, -14 is any meat. -5 is any egg

[calm nebula]

Interesting

That's hardcoded

Use a spacecore recipe

[finite ginkgo]

Yeah, only the milk eggs and fish categories work in vanilla iirc

[tiny zealot]

spacecore also allows context tags (if memory serves), which in my opinion you should prefer over categories

[silver snow]

alright i give up on targeted bait. maybe ill get back to it but for now ill just raise a NotImplementedError

[silver pelican]

spacecore recipe? :0 wha- how?

[finite ginkgo]

CookingRecipeOverride, check the spacecore docs, but if you also want an example:
https://github.com/MizuJakkaru/Cornucopia/blob/555a4bc598b8a722d431133ea30a19c832d1b9c8/[CP] Cornucopia Artisan Machines/data/objectreplacements.json#L43

[heady spire]

i don't know if this is just me making a stupid mistake, but i've been trying to load HD portraits with Portraiture and according to the description of the mod ". The aspect ratio of the spritesheet and the layout of the faces needs to be the same as in the original" but most HD portraits i use work fine with it, but when i try making my own for some reason it doesn't work even when i use the exact same size as the other HD mods

[rancid temple]

Do you have an example of what you mean? Doesn't work is kind of vague

[heady spire]

basically it doesn't load, but doesnt say anything on the logs i'll show a video example

[rancid temple]

Hm, I know green role can't post images here, not sure if you'll be able to post a video

[heady spire]

then ill send a dm, just let me get the vid

[rancid temple]

Try here, if that fails try #images-and-memes , if that fails then I'll accept a DM

[heady spire]

Okay thank you ^-^

[rancid temple]

Someone sent me a DM the other day asking if I make mods, I just ignored it because they didn't even see if I was okay with DM's first lol

[heady spire]

damn that sucks, thats really disrespectful tbh :(

[rancid temple]

Plus it's easier to get more help from others if the info can be posted here

[brittle pasture]

Oh I received that exact DM. It's 80% a scam attempt

[rancid temple]

I wonder if they got phished or something, they've been on the server for a few years with medium activity

I just assumed it was an attempt to get me to make a mod or something for them

[patent lance]

@solemn roost: 4th anniversary of the #pokemon channel (365d ago)

[royal nimbus]

is there a map file png for spouse rooms and patios?

[tiny zealot]

do we think this is off by one because of leap year?

[tiny zealot]

yes, but if you want to add your custom NPC's spouse room and patio you should put them on a separate map to prevent collisions

[rancid temple]

Spouse rooms use indoor and sewer for their tilesheets, there's not just a plain png image of the rooms or patios

[royal nimbus]

i just want to edit original textures is all

[tiny zealot]

ah, i misread. my mistake

[royal nimbus]

nw and tyty

[rancid temple]

Maps/townInterior and SewerTiles to be specific

[royal nimbus]

gotya ty

[rancid temple]

And spouse patios use Maps/spring_outdoorsTileSheet so gonna need to edit the seasonal variants as well

[royal nimbus]

ah right, thanks

[patent lance]

318487045129502720: it was a leap year, you dum dum (365d ago) [Requested by shockah]

@solemn roost: it was a leap year, you dum dum (365d ago) [Requested by shockah]

[rancid temple]

I'm dying 😂

[lucid iron]

leap year police shockah

[next plaza]

Amazing

[calm nebula]

It's a leap year

[tiny zealot]

how did i fall for shockah doing this twice? i am cackling

[calm nebula]

What is this pokemon

[heady spire]

okie got the vid done, had to try not to accidently dox myself

i'll send the aspect ratios, that's probably the problem

[rancid temple]

Portraiture works by replacing images based on specific names

[finite ginkgo]

Something you could knit probably

[rancid temple]

So your image needs to be the same name as the portrait you're trying to replace

[old edge]

how may I add lava on a custom map?

[calm nebula]

Lots of c#

[old edge]

which method?

in the decompiled code

[rancid temple]

From what I can tell in this video, Karlach is a replacement for Leah?

[heady spire]

oh yeah i was trying to replace the karlach portarait that replaces Leah's portrait (i was working on this for 3 hours itrying to figure the problem)

[rancid temple]

For Portraiture you would just call it Leah.png and then you can call the folder whatever you want

Or just Leah if you don't have file extensions visible

[next plaza]

It's not a specific method - there's a bunch of different code (including net stuff) in VolcanoDungeon

[teal bridge]

Same here. Even if it's not a scam, it's a "wtf". No introduction, no explanation, no "I saw your work here" or "so and so said to contact you", not even an indication of what they want. I just ignore requests like that on principle.

[heady relic]

So I'm considering writing a program to make modding easier. My goal is to have a simple gui that let's you add a new item to the game, and it has fields for all the info you need. You type out what you want for each one, select edibility, shops, price, etc, and then click save and it just creates all the json files you need.

Before I started though, does anyone know if that exists already?

[next plaza]

I started on one a while back but never released it

[plucky reef]

Miss Coriel's NPC creator does that in a way but for NPCs, not items.

[next plaza]

It was also during the days of JA dominance, so it wouldn't be as useful now

[rancid temple]

Closest thing I can think of is the NPC creator but it's also not up to date lol

[old edge]

ok which folder should I look in the decompiled code going to have to figure it out do you know?

[next plaza]

I don't know off the top of my head. Just search for VolcanoDungeon in file explorer (or ILSpy or whatever)

[calm nebula]

I don't think this exists no

[rancid temple]

I had considered learning Python to make something for the data types that aren't updated to the new models (clothes and such) but I am unsure if I really want to learn Python lol

[calm nebula]

I know aloe has a py to cp that allows currying

[lucid iron]

im not sure why you would need to learn py for that, C# should be sufficient

[heady relic]

My job is asking me yo learn python and I figured doing this would be the lease painful way to learn.

[rancid temple]

I guess, either way I need to learn to make UI

[lucid iron]

make one of those ascii interfaces

[gilded comet]

(i do. it doesn't have a GUI though it's just a module)

[rancid temple]

Oof, I wanted it to be user friendly lmao

Not something that looks like I pirated a "game" and am actually about to install a virus

[next plaza]

I used Godot for my attempt since it has UI stuff. Though these days I'd probably just do MonoGame + Mlem

(Since I'm using mlem for a game project and already wrote a XML/stylesheet loader for it)

[rancid temple]

I did consider just using Unity for it lmao

[heady relic]

Ideally I'll be able to get it to the point that it can read your mod folders and properly integrate between mods. So if you have SVE, you can select that it's a loved gift by Sophia and stuff like that

[lucid iron]

if i was making smth like that i'd prob just do some potato react app for it

so i can host it on github pages

[next plaza]

That's going to be fun (in the dwarf fortress sense) since packs can conditionally add NPCs and such

[heady relic]

I'm always down for a good challenge.

[calm nebula]

I don't say these words often

[lucid iron]

hm so something like wyrebash

[calm nebula]

But python UI makes me want to shoot myself

[rancid temple]

Sounds like basically recreating how the game loads data lol

[next plaza]

Don't forget emulating content patcher!

[calm nebula]

I have literally spun up a tiny web server and written Javascript to avoid python ui

And I might do it again

[next plaza]

JS shivers

I didn't realize Python UI was that bad

[heady relic]

I learned JS from bitburner lol

[teal bridge]

Wrye. Wrye. You did that just to push our buttons, didn't you?

[gilded comet]

literally

[lucid iron]

i think pyside6 is ok

[tiny zealot]

well, it is python

[lucid iron]

but its just secretly cpp

[next plaza]

I mean, fair

[lucid iron]

not very pythonic™️

focustense dont u have some big skyrim npc tool

[teal bridge]

Wait, I'm trying to follow the conversation. Were we talking about a way to run a Stardew UI outside the game? Because I really want that for testing.

(chu: yes, getting to 1.0 of that is another long-running project. like, very very long.)

[lucid iron]

no i think they want gui content mod program

[next plaza]

It was more data editing outside the game

[lucid iron]

which was brought up b4, wren had a wip somewhere?

[heady relic]

Nah, more like a way to more accurately make json files to avoid as much testing as I do

[teal bridge]

I can't remember if the thing Wren was talking about was an actual thing in progress or an idea for a thing.

[rancid temple]

I feel like the testing is half the fun

[next plaza]

Json isn't too bad... (I say, as if I didn't come up with my alternate content patcher partially because I hate all the quotes involved)

(The other reason of course being embedding into C# mods)

[silver snow]

gui development...

[teal bridge]

A real editor UI would definitely be a big benefit to the CP modding community.

[silver snow]

i did like one personal project in ctkinter

[teal bridge]

I don't think JSON is bad either, but I'm not a writer or a spriter, I'm a programmer. We aren't representative of that clique.

[heady spire]

that was the problem , i just didn't name the file right

[heady relic]

I think my biggest hurdle is dealing with whatever the hell dll files are.

[teal bridge]

Ok, if you don't know what a DLL is, then you're probably a long way from being able to create a full GUI for content packs.

[lucid iron]

what kind of programming background do u have

[teal bridge]

(well, unless you're 100% Linux and just never use Windows)

[rancid temple]

You'll probably want to make the variants too, Winter and Beach

[calm nebula]

Linux better though

[heady relic]

Extensive Java, JS, and performance testing for work

[calm nebula]

I'm glad to see the last of perfmon

[silver snow]

tbf I havent touched DLLs (i am going to this semester) and ive been learning programming for a fair number of years, just.. mostly python i couldnt tell you either

[heady spire]

yeah still a w.i.p (im not done with the emotions even]

[silver snow]

also dreammaker

[lucid iron]

oh i guess none of those would have *.dll extension (java is *.jar right)

[teal bridge]

I don't disagree, but we all have our reasons.

[heady relic]

Yup

[teal bridge]

(except Java, which is universally bad)

[lucid iron]

i think the first step is learn how the stardew content pipeline works

simple way is to try editing data in C# rather than through cp

wiki has doc about that

[calm nebula]

Work gave us all windows machines

I think the sound of us bitchinf about SharePoint is music to their ears

[heady relic]

Yeah I've made and extensively edited a few mods (rip dead mods), so I have a solid general understanding of how everything links together. But I know a lot of the big ones use dll files

[lucid iron]

those are just builds of C# mods

[teal bridge]

Stardew uses MonoGame. Literally every instruction that runs is part of some DLL.

[lucid iron]

there was previous convo back here #making-mods-general message

[teal bridge]

Also, some mods do actually use DLLs, and aren't just the one DLL for the mod itself, but rarely.

In .NET it's called an "assembly". Unless it's not an assembly.

[lucid iron]

and 1 possible route is to have a mod packaged with the gui app to run a instance of stardew

to have access to the internals

[heady relic]

Ooh. That's a good idea.

[teal bridge]

If all you want to do is load content, you really don't need to run the game. XNB can be read offline.

[lucid iron]

so that you dont need to reimplement various data models

[rancid temple]

Well it's more like reading the content added by mods with all the conditions and everything available

[lucid iron]

yea that too

[rancid temple]

I dunno if reading the XNB's would help all that much other than having a base to start from

[teal bridge]

But if this is an editor, you don't really actually want to run the pipeline, you want to look at what each individual mod is doing independently, i.e. read their content packs.

[lucid iron]

!unpack if u havent done this then unpack both Stardew Valley.dll and StardewValley.GameData.dll

[ocean sail]

Follow this guide to unpack the game's content files in order to see and explore how the game data is structured.
It's helpful when making your own mods, or just to learn about how the game works!

To use this command, type !unpack.

[teal bridge]

And yes, the data format is obtuse for a lot of them, but most of the time they are actually just strings until they reach some deeply-nested inner loop of the game; there is no format to speak of.

[lucid iron]

its not obsfucated so ez to read

[rancid temple]

!decompile you mean

[ocean sail]

If you want to make SMAPI mods with C#, one important resource is decompiling the game to read the game code. Here's how to do it: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/Get_Started#How_do_I_decompile_the_game_code.3F

To use this command, type !decompile.

[lucid iron]

ah yea ty

[brittle pasture]

(both? both!)

[rancid temple]

Both is good

[lucid iron]

what r the options for C# gui anyways

aside from winforms...

[brittle pasture]

Unity

[next plaza]

Godot

More seriously, I think there's Maui now? Never used it myself

[teal bridge]

If you're not targeting cross-platform, then WPF is still the convention.

Rumors of its demise are greatly exaggerated.

And if I were trying to do cross-platform, I just wouldn't use C#, I'd use a web container (Electron, Tauri, etc.).

[rancid musk]

If you want WPF shouldn't you just use Avalonia

[teal bridge]

Maybe. It was pretty immature back when I was doing a lot of WPF stuff. Could be a better choice now.

[silver pelican]

help.
Include assets/Data/gifttastes.json > EditData Data/NPCGiftTastes > text operation #10" to Data/NPCGiftTastes: record 'Elliot' has no value, so field '1' can't be modified using text operations.

block in question:

                    "Operation": "Append",
                    "Target": ["Fields", "Elliot", 1],
                    "Value": "{{ModId}}.Halo-halo {{ModId}}.PutoBumbong {{ModId}}.Kopiko {{ModId}}.SalabatTea", 
                    "Delimiter": " "
                },```

the others have the same format and is working. but idk what's wrong here :/

[hallow prism]

there is no npc named elliot

[rancid temple]

Oh yeah, his name has two t's

[hallow prism]

as a french person i can tell you that there's no npc named georges either

[silver pelican]

*:'> ugh *

[hallow prism]

as someone who can perfectly read thanks you very much, there is no hailey either

[silver pelican]

[gilded comet]

wait what

is it haley?

[rancid temple]

Yes

[hallow prism]

yes

[heady spire]

my dyslexic ass was ABOUT to write a paragraph

[gilded comet]

omg

[silver pelican]

welp, i failed elliott

[brittle pasture]

!eliot

[ocean sail]

Elliott has two l's and two t's in it...

To use this command, type !eliot.

[gilded comet]

so good

[silver pelican]

did we all thought its hailey ? xd

[gilded comet]

yes...

[rancid temple]

Just be me and don't remember their names without having to look at them

Chiseled beach guy

Blonde camera girl

[gilded comet]

blonde lady

[silver pelican]

XD yyessss! were all in this together

[rancid temple]

Sad hammer man

[silver pelican]

gym guy / topless morning guy

[heady spire]

should be nice guy on reddit, thats how i remember him

[silver pelican]

dat about rayt. phew.

[heady relic]

I wonder if I could do the GUI in Ren'Py

[rancid temple]

I can't tell if this is for or against lmao

[teal bridge]

No one got the reference? Phbt, flounce time.

"It's Elliott! Everyone knows it's two Ls and two Ts. I have two of everything!"

[next plaza]

Stardew raytracer person hasn't committed in a month, sad

[brittle ledge]

(if it helps, Jorts and Jean had broken CTs for Elliott in their initial release because of exactly this )

[calm nebula]

It's not just you

When I was toying around with JA gift tastes it was the most common error I saw

[hallow prism]

if it helps, CA had a schedule for lewis to go to the library (no map of this name)

[next plaza]

Brb implementing NPC/location aliases

[calm nebula]

!elliot

[ocean sail]

Elliott has two t's in it...

To use this command, type !elliot.

[next plaza]

!false

[ocean sail]

true

To use this command, type !false.

[next plaza]

I love some of these commands

[tender bloom]

the !stone one is fun

[next plaza]

I WAS JUST ABOUT TO

Sigh

[tender bloom]

It's just a brilliant moment when someone wanders in with that exact question

[next plaza]

You win this time, Elizabeth

[tender bloom]

Sorry for stealing your thunder 😛

[next plaza]

You can search and find times of me randomly popping in here, running !stone, and not saying anything

I might have it memorized now, is it 390?

!stone

[ocean sail]

🪨 The item ID for Stone is 390.

To use this command, type !stone.

[next plaza]

Hooray

[tender bloom]

vitally important info

[brittle pasture]

!eliott

[ocean sail]

Elliott has two l's in it...

To use this command, type !eliott.

[next plaza]

(I do actually have my SSN memorized, but it made for a funny meme)

[calm nebula]

!!true

[ocean sail]

true

To use this command, type !!true.

[teal bridge]

SSN => license plate and that's me.

[calm nebula]

(It was pathos' idea)

[royal nimbus]

i rly wish i knew what somethings like these are suppose to be xD

[ashen oak]

Q about this line from the wiki on Harmony patching (https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Modder_Guide/APIs/Harmony):

However annotations work differently in the compiled code, so SMAPI can't rewrite them. That means mods which use annotations are more fragile; they may break without warning in future game/SMAPI/Harmony updates, and may not work on some platforms.

What exactly trips SMAPI up here? If I write my own attribute and then use it to apply patches using the standard code API, will that end up being a problem?

[calm nebula]

Yes

[ashen oak]

-_-

[next plaza]

(I use annotations exclusively and never run into issues )

But it is more fragile technically - the problem is Cecil (the rewriter library) can't pick those up for some reason

[calm nebula]

If you have any type reference

In the annotation

It may break

This is pretty commonly seen on mobile tbh

[next plaza]

It's not as much of an issue these days to be honest (on desktop)

[calm nebula]

"Can't find gamelocation"

[next plaza]

It used to be a cross platform nightmare when the assembly names were different per platform

[ashen oak]

Oh, I see

[next plaza]

Mobile... well, I like to pretend that won't exist for 1.6 😇

[rancid temple]

I mean... will it? lol

[next plaza]

(Modding mobile that is)

[ashen oak]

But if the annotation doesn't directly have a type reference then it should be okay?

[next plaza]

(Mobile will definitely exist)

[calm nebula]

I mean

[calm nebula]

Yeah

So you can even use the harmony onws

Just use the form that uses a string to identify the class to patch

(Don't do that it makes refactoring worse)

[brittle ledge]

Is there even any interest in mobile modding programming nowadays? I.e., someone wanting to work on Android SMAPI?

[ashen oak]

Trading one maintainability issue for another wheee

[proud wyvern]

i mean, depending on how the 1.6 port is done, it could be super simple

[next plaza]

Good question... not from me? 😛 I dread it getting updated since I'm basically obligated to update spacecore

[brittle pasture]

maybe someone is lurking in the woods ready to fix mobile modding the moment 1.6 is ready for mobile

[ashen oak]

I mean it'd be nice if mods worked on mobile for the folks who play there, but yeah is anyone maintaining that infra?

[rancid temple]

No way to maintain it currently lol

[brittle ledge]

Really? What makes it potentially easy vs. the 1.5 port?

[rancid temple]

Unless you wanna target the very select group of people who didn't update their mobile version and can still mod

[brittle pasture]

but right now why invest in effort to fix 1.5 modding when 1.6 is on the horizon

[ashen oak]

That sounds like a challenge (that I don't have time to accept)

[next plaza]

I can see some ways it'd be simpler... and some ways it'd be worse. (Can't say more than that)

[royal nimbus]

how are any textures from the sewers being used in spouse rooms? i dont understand the connection.

[brittle pasture]

Krobus

[rancid temple]

Krobus

[royal nimbus]

ooohhhhhhhh

[brittle ledge]

Kro...

[royal nimbus]

lmao okay tyty

[next plaza]

We almost got uber to chime in

Just needed that one more Krobus

[brittle ledge]

I'm sorry, I failed us

[next plaza]

tiakall typing faster training arc commencing

[proud wyvern]

1.5 mobile is a mess that uses Android .NET 5 (?), which is in no way close to PC .NET 5. 1.6 PC updated to .NET 6, and the Android equivalent of that is much closer

[lucid iron]

r they swap out xamarin for 1.6

[next plaza]

I don't know how much I can say, sorry

[lucid iron]

syntax wise the harmony.patch function is clearer to me

[ashen oak]

I'm okay with either, attributes used to weird me out until my last job

[lucid iron]

helps when i look at my code and go

[next plaza]

I much prefer the attributes

[ashen oak]

Now they're actually kinda neat tbh

[lucid iron]

i didnt need a transpiler there

[next plaza]

(Hence only old code using the function based instead of attributes)

[proud wyvern]

i feel much more in control with manual patches

[next plaza]

I will say, it does bug me about attributes that if one patch fails the rest won't patch

[proud wyvern]

...that's how it works? omg

[next plaza]

Yeah, it goes in some sort of sequential order and bails once one fails

So if it fails half way through, half won't patch

(That could have changed I guess, but it feels like it does that last time I checked)

[proud wyvern]

adds yet another reason why he doesn't like Harmony to the pile

[teal bridge]

That's probably why so many mods relentlessly try/catch around all their Harmony stuff. (For me, it's just YOLO)

[proud wyvern]

try catching won't help you with applying patches

[next plaza]

I'm also kinda annoyed that you put [HarmonyPatch] on the class, but [HarmonyPriority] does nothing unless you put it on the method

Took me a while to figure that out

[teal bridge]

Depends on your definition of "help". If you try-catch each one then it will at least try to apply them all.

Whether or not the resulting combination of successful and failed patches actually "works", well that's another question entirely.

[proud wyvern]

in case of PatchAll, try catching in most cases won't do a thing for applying these patches, as applying itself could throw between the patches

the one thing it can help with is if you have a bad transpiler, but only in some cases

if you end up creating invalid IL, that will stop all other patches from applying too

[ashen oak]

I assumed try/catch on each patch was pretty standard just to ensure enough error handling/logging to keep players from bugging PathosChild when a patch goes south

[teal bridge]

The SMAPI error log will pretty clearly state which patch/mod failed, so if they bug Pathos, that's their fault.

[ashen oak]

That doesn't help Pathos out much tho

Hence the recommendation on the wiki

[lucid iron]

i figured it's more bc harmony can mysteriously fail with specific mod loads

[next plaza]

"Pretty clearly" not to users 😛

[proud wyvern]

no, the recommendation is so you don't break the flow of the game or other mods

[teal bridge]

What I mean is, if it's the sort of player who is going to bug Pathos over that sort of thing, I think they are going to bug Pathos no matter what you do.

[lucid iron]

so more than usual amount of error catching seems warrented

[next plaza]

Or me. I sometimes get error reports just because SCore is in them

[teal bridge]

Haha... SCore must be SpaceCore, right?

[next plaza]

Of course!

[teal bridge]

Oh, to behold the mind of a user...

[next plaza]

(It's really SMAPI)

(Pathos hates me, personally)

(Because of that + the serializer warning)

[ashen oak]

Yeah I tend to err on the side of "make sure the user knows that I'm (or they are) the one who messed up". That's for Pathos/casey/etc.'s sake and my own

No skin off my back hitting a quick key combination to wrap my patch in a try/catch with log with a macro

[teal bridge]

Thing is, if the patches are half-applied or 80% applied then it is probably going to break the game anyway. Maybe for some mods/frameworks, that is not the case.

[ashen oak]

Yeah that depends greatly on the mod

[finite ginkgo]

(the "found X mods with warnings" warning? Pretty sure that's getting removed in smapi 4.1.0, pathos hates you ever so slightly less)

[ashen oak]

Our server played through an entire day of game after I busted one of the mods we're testing, then I fixed it and we restarted

[next plaza]

Wait is 4.1.0 not out yet?

I thought it was

[ashen oak]

Whereas if I'd been testing something with a lot of codependent patches that really affects gameplay then yeah a fail should have just stopped everything

[finite ginkgo]

It's in beta for 1.6.9 I think

[next plaza]

Ah

I guess my custom SMAPI version is what's making my i18n folders work still then

[ashen oak]

Oh, did they change i18n?

[next plaza]

I put in a PR that got merged for letting you use folders instead of a single file (atra's idea)

[next plaza]

Nope, that was something else, the serializer warning is still there: https://github.com/Pathoschild/SMAPI/blob/develop/src/SMAPI/Framework/Logging/LogManager.cs#L399

You got my hopes up, how could you!

I did just spot a bug though

Time to DM Pathos!

(It's a very minor one)

[brittle pasture]

he should just add a hardcoded exemption for spacecore

[finite ginkgo]

(payback for hamster pics, which I mean uhhh, I've totally forgiven you for that because separate datability yeah)

[next plaza]

That context is totally lost 99.99% people here

[finite ginkgo]

oh yeah i know, i love confusing people

[solemn roost]

Ah shit we did get a leap year this year. Tomorrow's the day!

remind me the 4th anniversary of the #pokemon channel in 17 hours

[patent lance]

How Can Time Be Real If Our Timers Aren't Real? (#6234332) (17h | <t:1726061819>)

[solemn roost]

Tomorrow the timer will be right again, and the cycle continues

[velvet narwhal]

it works like a dream

[solemn roost]

Peak.

[woeful quartz]

what mods are good to get? i didnt get SDV on steam 😦 so I have no idea what to do

[noble jolt]

I would ask on modded-farmers, but Nexus mods is a good place to just brows them.

[woeful quartz]

AHH ok thanks didnt see that

[quaint moss]

Am I allowed to import .tsx tilesets into my map? I exported the spring_waterfalls tileset from the Forest as a .tsx file in order to keep the animations, if I were to simply use tilesets straight off the png I'd have to painstakingly set the waterfall animations and their timing again

[rancid temple]

Permissions wise, there's no difference between you using an exported tileset and just creating your own because both are using the base tilesheet, so it should be fine if it's a vanilla file otherwise normal permission rules apply

[next plaza]

tsx should work, yes. I'm using some in MMR

(Though those are custom tilesheets)

[quaint moss]

Good to know, thanks

[rancid temple]

The wiki even suggests exporting as a means to keep animations from vanilla maps, so it would be kind of wild if you weren't allowed to then use that lol

[light jasper]

Hey @tawny ore got a SimpleInjector question
How do you handle a harmony patch needing access to a singleton's content?
If I want my event manager to fire off an event from a harmony patch, I'll still need some kind of static method I can use to get the instance right?

[noble jolt]

Is there anyone on who is familiar with using the Cloudy Skies framework?

[rancid temple]

Documentation seems pretty straightforward, what's the question though?

[light jasper]

you could just ping Khloe for direct help as well

[noble jolt]

I'm still looking over the docs, was just asking so i would know who i could ask if questions came up 🙂

[light jasper]

you're welcome to ask here, and if we don't know, the author is in this channel as well

[rancid temple]

I would say, in general it's best to just ask the question and if anyone is on who can help and is willing they will

[noble jolt]

True.

[rancid temple]

I don't actually use a lot of the frameworks but I can read and understand documentation and pick apart code pretty well

And I know there are a lot of people who are tangentially familiar with different mods even if they don't frequently use them

[noble jolt]

It's looking very promising to use as a trigger action for watering my greenhouse without having to learn c#

[tawny ore]

Yeah, my solution is to have a static instance of the service as a reference to injected dependencies: https://github.com/LeFauxMatt/StardewMods/blob/3779413465bf07af853c7877853cfc3b30fb0680/BetterChests/Framework/Services/Features/CarryChest.cs#L21

[valid cobalt]

hello! do you guys know of any in depth tutorials for making hair mods?

[noble jolt]

I do have one question though, i have this

 "BuildCost": 10000,
 "BuildMaterials": [
   {
     "ItemID": "(O)787",
     "Ammount": 5
   },
   {
     "ItemID": "(O)621",
     "Ammount": 6
   }``` and the items show up on the menu, but not the ammounts

[rancid temple]

Amount has one m

[brittle pasture]

Mispelled, you have two ms

[light jasper]

ok that makes me feel better lmao that's what I was doing but it just felt like I was cheating

[noble jolt]

omg xD

thanks

I know many words, but spelling them all correctly evades me.

[light jasper]

mood

[rancid temple]

The eternal struggle

NGL, I don't see how Cloudy Skies would be able to trigger watering inside a greenhouse, still looking through but like the best I could think is maybe creating a new location context that's specific to the greenhouse and then making it rain there

But I don't know what kind of effect that would have on the rest of the functionality of the greenhouse

[noble jolt]

there is --indoors thing, so i'm hoping there's something that can be done with that, if i can get it to be specific to the map I made for the greenhouse. We'll see though.

[rancid temple]

Oh, I see, I hadn't gotten down to the added trigger actions yet

[brave fable]

is there a shop in the base game that adds a fixed number of items from a random pool? maybe other than the 1000 lines of traveling merchant code

i'm so locse to getting sailor styles entirely content patcher, but the shop behaviour is so incredibly specific in c#

[brittle pasture]

You can do RANDOM_ITEMS and then filter it to only items from your mod with PerItemCondition

the vanilla game maybe has something like that?

[lucid iron]

Sandy maybe

She has random clothes iirc

[brave fable]

https://github.com/b-b-blueberry/SailorStyles/blob/master/SailorStyles/Core/ModEntry.cs#L262-L372

[noble jolt]

doesn't the guy with the camel also have random stock?

[rancid temple]

Bookseller?

[fathom hound]

desert trader? no

fixed stock depending on days

[noble jolt]

ah

[round field]

Hey guys, quick question, how do I go about adding an animal actor on a heart event? what's the code that I need to use? I don't understand this: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Event_data 😂

[velvet narwhal]

oh i have one, one second

addTemporaryActor \"Duck\" 16 16 95 17 2 false Animal duck1
command "actor" <spritesheet dimensions height> <spritesheet dimensions width> <x coord of map> <y coord of map> <facing direction> [type] [name]

[brave fable]

ah, sandy's random items might not work since it's just using the global list of random sale items

mine would probably have some stupid cp tokens

[lucid iron]

does your stuff all have context tags

[round field]

so for cows, that'll be addTemporaryActor "BrownCow" 16 16 95 17 2 false Animal BrownCow?

[lucid iron]

so u could do it like the 1.6 catalogues

"ItemId": "ALL_ITEMS (F)",
"PerItemCondition": "ITEM_CONTEXT_TAG Target collection_joja"

[brave fable]

ooh

[velvet narwhal]

i edited it with explanations of what the numbers mean

[round field]

Thanks man!

[brave fable]

am i able to add context tags to shirts hats and pants?

[next plaza]

You could take a look at how the bookseller works in Data/Shops - though you'd still need a list of all the items

[brave fable]

there's only 200 of them. i'm willing

[brittle pasture]

are all of these items guaranteed to have the same mod prefix in their ids

[brave fable]

yep, they're named author.mod.contentpack.item

[lucid iron]

ITEM_ID_PREFIX

[brave fable]

there's like 8 content packs i'm converting to cp

and originally it'd pick some random 20% of the items from each content pack to add to the shop

[lucid iron]

but hm shirts and pants dont have context tag very sad

[brave fable]

.. and also pair matching hats with shirts. and matching pants with kimono shirts

[lucid iron]

they only got custom field so i was gonna look at button's thing

[uncut viper]

wont there not be a way to guarantee each of those 20% of items is unique on any given day?

if going off the bookseller method

[brave fable]

repeat sales were fine before

[brittle pasture]

Shop item queries can return a list of multiple unique items, and you can choose how many to pick from that list

[brave fable]

oh honey item_id_prefix is probably it

[brittle pasture]

with MaxItems

[brave fable]

with maxitems.....

[brittle pasture]

so for example you can have a shop entry that gets every item that starts with a certain mod prefix, and set MaxItems to 5 to pick 5 of them for sale

[uncut viper]

ah, i was confusing that with Max_Stack_, whoopsie

[brittle pasture]

For completeness' sake, MaxStack (and MinStack) determines how many of each of those 5 items are on sale

[lucid iron]

ig u have to do RANDOM_ITEMS too

[brave fable]

it works it works it works it works it works it works it works

uyoiu are ALL beloved

[round field]

You are a lifesaver @velvet narwhal 😍

[calm nebula]

Cat!!!!!!

[brave fable]

is it possible to define a pair of items in a single shop entry, or do i need 2 entries?

like, a pants and a shirt with the same name

nvm it's probably not possible

[calm nebula]

I recall shop entries allowing multiple items

Check out vmv

[brittle pasture]

like you want to buy two items with one click?

[calm nebula]

I also have a test pack (lumi's wallpapers, was debugging weird ass shit as per usual)

[brittle pasture]

or two items with one entry?

[brave fable]

no ,just add two matching items in an entry. but it's fine since i can just use CP keys to ensure a pair

[lucid iron]

ig u can use seeded random

[calm nebula]

Bluebs

If it is easier for you

An item resolver is dirt easy to write

[brave fable]

nonono i got this

it's gonna be amazing

[calm nebula]

https://github.com/atravita-mods/StardewMods/blob/1db0a9587f1f5963a2f7e09ebd40824f351326c4/MuseumRewardsIn/MuseumRewardsIn/MuseumShopBuilder.cs#L17

[brave fable]

i deleted the c# component 😌

[teal bridge]

Threw away the best part.

[brave fable]

hmmm m using two CP keyed randoms can give duplicate results. can i make the results exclusive?

[brave fable]

i prefer to think of it as a dramatic weight loss effort

[next plaza]

There's a shop data thing to remove duplicates, I think the bookseller uses it

"AvoidRepeat": true, on the shop item entry

[brave fable]

oh, i assumed that was just for RandomItems and wouldnt notice CP changes

[brittle pasture]

Then if collision happens you'd only have one outfit for sale right

[lucid iron]

can u use SYNCED_CHOICE for this

same list for shirt+pants but in different order per pair

[brave fable]

current setup for CP keys kimono1 and kimono2

{
    "Id": "blueberry.SailorStyles.SakuraKimono1S",
    "ItemId": "(S)blueberry.SailorStyles.SakuraKimono.SakuraKimono{{Random:Dye, Aqua, Blue, Green, Lemon, Orange, Pink, Purple, Red, White, Yellow |key=kimono1}}Upper",
    "AvailableStock": 1,
    "AvailableStockLimit": "Player",
    "AvoidRepeat": true,
    "UseObjectDataPrice": true,
    "Condition": null
},
{
    "Id": "blueberry.SailorStyles.SakuraKimono1P",
    "ItemId": "(P)blueberry.SailorStyles.SakuraKimono.SakuraKimono{{Random:Dye, Aqua, Blue, Green, Lemon, Orange, Pink, Purple, Red, White, Yellow |key=kimono1}}Lower",
    "AvailableStock": 1,
    "AvailableStockLimit": "Player",
    "AvoidRepeat": true,
    "UseObjectDataPrice": true,
    "Condition": null
},
{
    "Id": "blueberry.SailorStyles.SakuraKimono2S",
    "ItemId": "(S)blueberry.SailorStyles.SakuraKimono.SakuraKimono{{Random:Dye, Aqua, Blue, Green, Lemon, Orange, Pink, Purple, Red, White, Yellow |key=kimono2}}Upper",
    "AvailableStock": 1,
    "AvailableStockLimit": "Player",
    "AvoidRepeat": true,
    "UseObjectDataPrice": true,
    "Condition": null
},
{
    "Id": "blueberry.SailorStyles.SakuraKimono2P",
    "ItemId": "(P)blueberry.SailorStyles.SakuraKimono.SakuraKimono{{Random:Dye, Aqua, Blue, Green, Lemon, Orange, Pink, Purple, Red, White, Yellow |key=kimono2}}Lower",
    "AvailableStock": 1,
    "AvailableStockLimit": "Player",
    "AvoidRepeat": true,
    "UseObjectDataPrice": true,
    "Condition": null
}

[brittle pasture]

I think ppl were discussing/asking for exclusive random tokens the other day. Not possible in CP yet I think