archived-update-spoilers

[leaden stratus]

especially now that active fishing is good even in late game with good prep

I really should try that myself

[rose knoll]

Iridium Smoked Fish, my beloved. (Though 1 coal : 1 fish is rough)

[leaden stratus]

farming coal is not that bad

or you can just buy it from clint

[rose knoll]

It's not bad, it's just an extra step (And that cuts into your profits)

Smoked Lava Eel, Smoked Blobfish etc are amazing money though

[opal terrace]

buying things from clint is a sin

if I could upgrade my tools myself I would

[solar idol]

Suppose get a coal blessing and just mega bomb the crap out of the mines or skull cavern

[leaden stratus]

it beats and radioactive bars in terms of money gained from one piece of coal so that says quite a bit

[leaden stratus]

not worth it honestly

I'd rather kill dust sprites

[leaden stratus]

well then I'm a war criminal

on my main file I bought like 10 stacks of coal from him

[opal terrace]

honestly I never really had many problems with getting coals especially now that 1.6 added actual coal nodes

[leaden stratus]

coal nodes are nice but for stuff like sc deep dives it's not enough

[solar idol]

I still need more radioactive bars to build all my heavy tappers but the dangerous mines are being stingy

[opal terrace]

it's kind of sad radioactive ore didn't get much use
like yeah there's like 4 crafting recipes but still
I guess it sells for a good sum

[leaden stratus]

oh I'm slowly running out of it again lmao

[opal terrace]

"running out of it" while showing 2+ stacks is crazy

[leaden stratus]

I've had like 6 or 8 stacks

[misty lichen]

watchu been doing

[leaden stratus]

that's the amount of ore I'm working with

[leaden stratus]

uhh nothing...

[rose knoll]

Bah - I forgot to rebuild my mahogany farm and now I need hardwood

[solar idol]

I can't imagine needing that much bars or ore for anything besides maybe radioactive bars for heavy tappers

[opal terrace]

they're for selling I assume

[misty lichen]

theyre trying to make clint bankrupt

[leaden stratus]

I better don't tell what year I'm on then

[leaden stratus]

yes

[rose knoll]

The Skull Caverns probably look more like an open quarry at this point

[leaden stratus]

iridium and gold are for crytsalariums

copper and iron are for kegs (that I'm going to craft at some point)

[misty lichen]

goodluck with the pine tars!

[leaden stratus]

on lucky days with +1 ore from statue of the dwarf king and +0.5 speed from statue of blessings yes

my pb now is nearly 7k ore

[rose knoll]

It's only misery at the start of the game - If you've set up a tapping farm (Which I expect they've done), you'll be drowning by the end of year 2

[misty lichen]

thats true

[leaden stratus]

I'm moving my oak resin factroy now so yeah it's going to take a bit of time

[misty lichen]

i see

[rose knoll]

Bless Green Rain and Tree Fertilizers for that kind of stuff

[leaden stratus]

my quarry has become resin farm

oh nvm they're done

most likely gonna change that still

and I think I know how

[lyric sparrow]

I got orange. Is it random? Or does everyone get the same prizes every time, in a particular order?

[rose knoll]

Correction - It's just the entries have some variance

Like Entry 2 will be Peach or Orange

Fish Smoker or Dehydrator, etc

[lyric sparrow]

I'm playing Riverlands. I'm not impressed with the fish smoker like I have been the dehydrator. I can think of better uses for coal than increasing the value of a fish less than the value of the coal you're using up. If it smoked more than one fish per coal, then I'd be all in and making more. But one-to-one is a very stingy ratio, making it useful for only the upper echelon of fishes, imo.

[rose knoll]

Keep in mind to also compare it as 10 wood : 1 doubled fish value

Via the charcoal kiln

[lyric sparrow]

I used the smoker twice very early in the game to get some decent food for mining. Haven't used it since.

[rose knoll]

Stuff like Blobfish, Lava Eels, etc get really valuable really fast

[leaden stratus]

lava eel goes crazy

[rose knoll]

But if you have excess wood, feeding it into a charcoal kiln gives you the "cheap" path to high value fish

(And I'm playing on 25% margin and think they're crazy good value)

[leaden stratus]

nearly 6k for one if you get iridium quality, smoked, angler and artisan

[leaden stratus]

can feel what you're going through

[rose knoll]

(Ok, I say 25%, and it is 25%, but I do have a few mods that end up playing with the balance - Longevity for taxes is good fun)

[lyric sparrow]

I'll have to make another list and give it a try. Does Fisher factor into the pricing?
I'm not a big fan of fishing to begin with. I'll do it, but once I get Master Angler, I'm done with it. I chose Riverlands not for the fishing (which has been great being able to do so at home, I'll be honest), but because I thought it would make a pretty farm, and I'm trying to not be so hardcore, max-profit power-gamey this time around.

Billionaire run burnt me out really hard.

[leaden stratus]

fisher and angler work for smoking

artisan does too

[lyric sparrow]

Cool. Thanks.

[rose knoll]

Yeah - It's Fish Price after Bonuses and Quality x 2, then it becomes an artisanal good and benefits from the artisan perks

[leaden stratus]

that's why smoking is powerful

[lyric sparrow]

But at 250 a pop for coal, if you're buying it, you really need to be selective with your fish. I have hundreds of ores to process from my last SC run (my first decent one) and I'm considering more jars (currently at 16 each of jars and kegs) and that is a lot of coal.

[rose knoll]

I mean - How's the wood situation?

[lyric sparrow]

About a stack. Needed for jars and kegs at this point, which will make a LOT more money than fishing ever could.

[trim plinth]

why not both

[rose knoll]

Fair - It sounds like you just have different needs at this point

[trim plinth]

The roe can be put in jars. If you fish and go treasure hunter and get roe, the synergy becomes really profitable. You smoke the fish, you put the roe in jars and from a single catch, you get 15k

I did not do the maths, maybe slightly exagerating but not by much

charcoal kiln is only early game. Later you burglar ring and monster compendium which makes farming dusts very coal profitable

you get the quarry which gives coal on its own, you get their quarry mines which give coal. You get the mining statue that gives days with more coal.

you have a mining profession that gives more coal

Monster musk also helps farming dusts

[woven tusk]

There will always be a summer sapling (random which one) in that specific slot, and an autumn sapling (random which one) in a later specific slot

So either peach or orange first, then either pom or apple second

The default CC bundles want a pom and three apples, so that autumn tree is a big help

[snow glacier]

is this new lmao i don't think ive ever seen this layout

[woven tusk]

Can spawn randomly once you've reached 120 at least once, stays that way for the rest of the day when it happens

Just to keep you on your toes

There are several new floorplans that do that

[lyric sparrow]

Yes, I know all this. This is not my first rodeo. I still think fishing comes in a distant second to farming in moneymaking, especially with artisan goods. And doubly so as a return on TIME investment.
The smoker may have done a lot to improve the fisherman's lot in life, but there's a reason Willy lives in a run-down shack with a boat he can't afford to repair. 🤣
Fishing is a poor-man's profession in this game, even still. But if you enjoy it, then that makes it worthwhile. Like I said above, though, I'm not overly fond of fishing.
I'll most likely go so far as to make another of smoker, so I have two and smoke the more valuable fish.

[woven tusk]

Oh, fishing pops right off insanely in 1.6

Lava eeling with targeted bait and Artisan

It's easier to get the materials to do that than to get them for a massive SC delve, too

[snow glacier]

damn that's pretty cool i like the variation, thanks for the info mate

[woven tusk]

And if Extended Family is up, it's possibly the biggest money per in-game hour period

[rose knoll]

Iridium Legends drools

[woven tusk]

35000G with Fisher and Artisan in the Smoker, or 42000G if you go with Angler instead (though I think Pirate is too good in 1.6 to give up)

It's insane

[high rampart]

I made like 2.5m during extended family I think

wild bait popped off and got me 22 legends in one day

[rose knoll]

And it's so doable with Cork + Quality

[woven tusk]

Think I would prefer Trap+Quality myself. But yeah

Or even a Dressed Spinner in there somewhere

[high rampart]

trap bobber best bobber proven by science (my opinion)

[rose knoll]

Flavor of choice - I like the extra bar size personally

But yeah Quality is required to push gold -> iridium unless it was drunk and sleeping

[woven tusk]

Bar size can be gotten from fishing food, the snare effect can't

[high rampart]

I feel like if a fish escapes it's 90% of the time because it darted away in a terrible pattern right as you hooked it when you have no buffer and it can escape right away

trap bobber makes that almost impossible

[woven tusk]

In my case I just have really slow reflexes

[high rampart]

it doesn't really matter how quick you are, a really annoying fish will be quicker than you

[woven tusk]

Sure, just that more fish will meet that criterion against me and my molasses reaction time

Me and my amazing sloth-like reflexes

[high rampart]

only more reason to keep that trap bobber on 24/7

I think I only stopped using it with challenge bait

[woven tusk]

Ye, I like the trap bobber. Cheap to make, too

[high rampart]

I usually just buy all bobbers available

willy's humble with it

[lyric sparrow]

I'll have to give that a try when I reach that point. Thanks for the tips.

[chilly bloom]

Sure though you can have a doubly large bar size by doing both the cork and the buffs. Not saying I’d pick cork over trap but it isn’t the most sound argument seeing as there isn’t a low limit to bar size

[lyric sparrow]

I've always found the much-touted "bar size increase" from cork bobber to be greatly exaggerated by those who champion its cause. I'm firmly in the camp of trap bobber. But I'm also not someone who fishes more than he has to.

[chilly bloom]

Yeah it’s only the equivalent of 3 levels

Though with a reinforced rod 2 of them can be considerable

More useful if you’re trying to perfect catch stuff tbh tho

[woven tusk]

+3 skill (Lobster Bisque) is +24 pixels
+4 skill (Seafoam Pudding) is +32 pixels
+5 skill (Seafoam with seasoning) is +40 pixels
Cork is +24

[chilly bloom]

Each level is just 8

[woven tusk]

Lv10 bar size is 176 pixels

So the difference between Bisque alone and Bisque + 1 cork is 200 --> 224

The bar size bonus isn't that huge and it's even diluted a little by the size bonus from food

[chilly bloom]

Sure but that’s purely quantitative, in reality it mirrors the actual escape patterns of the fish

There’s certain bar sizes that with good play the fish just can’t escape

[crisp kindle]

First time I saw it I thought it was a glitch or bug that duplicated all the mine carts haha

[chilly bloom]

And in that regard you’re catching them faster

[woven tusk]

I mean, no I wouldn't, because my reflexes are slow

Like, last time my trap bobber broke and I didn't have a spare ready, I immediately started failing against Lava Eels. This was with a fishing buff up. A cork on top, would definitely not have been enough to make the difference there

It's not necessarily the difference between catching and catching faster. It's the difference between catching and failing entirely

[chilly bloom]

As I said it’s fish and skull dependant

Usually there’s just an exact point where the same actions can net a catch on x fish with minor changes

And the way the fishing bar works each subsequent increase is more important than the last

[woven tusk]

The stuff it takes to reach the tipping point, means making too many sacrifices in other things

Like, sure, I won't need a trap bobber when the bar is half the play field, but then I don't have Quality nor Dressed Spinner anymore either

[chilly bloom]

Not necessarily

And again it’s dependant on fish and skill, you’re particularly focused on your situation with lava eel only

That’s decently specific, and you’re doing it for cash which adds further complexity as you most likely won’t be perfect catching them and just want quality bobber

[woven tusk]

The other situation I'd see myself in, is if Qi finally spawned Extended Family, which would be even moreso

[chilly bloom]

In your case the trap bobber is more useful

For someone else the cork may not be as bad as a choice as painted to be

[woven tusk]

I can't even catch Sturgeons consistently without the trap bobber, and I'm not about to break out the seafoam for something as common as those

[lyric sparrow]

Reminds me that I need to fish soon for more sardines. I have plenty of potatoes.

[woven tusk]

Dish o' the Sea enthusiast? I prefer Bisque but I suppose lobsters are difficult to get for most people

(I'm on the beach farm)

[lyric sparrow]

Ah, Riverlands here. And I still only have the 3 crab pots I got from the CC, and they're all in the water behind the house next to my fishing spot.

I don't even know if I have the recipe for Bisque yet. Mid-Spring, year 2.

[chilly bloom]

Also unlocked decently late as a recipe

If you aren’t buying them (and that’s rather late too)

[trim plinth]

I only eat fishing buffing when I have to catch a legendary or for night market as it gives some chance to catch an octopus.
I heard carb pots give good fishing xp. I need to put some in a river. I find they require to much work for what they give. I wish I could put 5 or ten baits at once, so I do not have to unequipe baits from my pole then scroll etc

[chilly bloom]

Smt like mid winter from the tv or Willy 8+ hearts

Which is pretty far along

I will agree it’s the superior fishing food though

It’s what? A milk and a lobster?

[lyric sparrow]

I usually make 3 ponds for the Seafoam recipe: Flounder, Midnight Carp, Midnight Squid. Though Dangerous Mines tended to give me more squid ink than the pond. LOL

[trim plinth]

dish of sea come as cc reward and squid fest reward. Not sure you need a lot of them

[woven tusk]

Crab pots aren't great for fishing EXP, though they are prominently featured in a "go from Lv0 to Lv10 in one day" meme (which requires hundreds or maybe thousands of them)

[chilly bloom]

Would crab pots be faster than spam fishing high xp fish?

For in game time

[trim plinth]

I did that a while ago. It is nice on paper, but midnight squids come quite late. I did not need them anymore after first night market.

[woven tusk]

The context was spamming other player slots to recatch legendaries over and over

So without the time freeze from fishing, crab pots were the plan

[chilly bloom]

Ah fair, I was wondering how you were getting crab pots at level 0

[woven tusk]

Yeah, requires the host to already have everything prepared to "feed" the farmhands

Lobsters are gonna be a problem for most players. Rarest crab pot catch in saltwater. Beach farm players have it easier, as do co-op players (have one Mariner on the team to place the pots, and lobsters become as common as the other catches)

[trim plinth]

Also lava eel and blobfish are way better in fish ponds, bc they actually make money + in the beta, you can put legend fish in ponds, meaning these fish that only have the purpose to give you a unique recipe ingredient are quite expensive, space wise. Fish ponds take 5x5 tiles, it adds up quickly

[woven tusk]

...For me, the problem was getting snails, as the freshwater pond on the Beach Farm has a higher trash rate for pots...

The raccoons want them. Maybe they're bartering with Vincent

[trim plinth]

Raccoons request are random

[woven tusk]

I mean yes but snails were the thing they wanted that time

And there's no handy freshwater on the beach farm, have to leave the farm for it

[lyric sparrow]

They drop more squid ink. They aren't an ingredient for the pudding. I also regretted them not being useable for Fried Calamari, so I might just go for regular squid just to have something to feed picky Pierre (seriously, who only loves one thing? and that one thing having tentacles? Dude's a freak. 🤣 ).

[woven tusk]

I ended up putting them in the GI farm's river. I go there more often than Cindersap

[woven tusk]

Nowadays we can just buy extra Price Catalogues from the bookseller for Pierre

[trim plinth]

It would be nice to be able to "terraform" your farm in some way. Creating a natural pond, a bridge, a mining farm.

[lyric sparrow]

Vincent's the only reason I have crab pots in the water in the first place. LOL

[woven tusk]

I fear for Jodi's sanity, dealing with all those hecking snails he brings home

[lyric sparrow]

So much about 1.6 I have yet to learn.

[woven tusk]

🐌🐌 🐌

[trim plinth]

Pierre likes daffodil, dandelion, crocus which come with iridium quality. I think I end up giving him some fried calamari from Linus and there is not much more friendship to gain anymore.

[lyric sparrow]

Better than Kent bringing home crabs ...

[woven tusk]

Iridium wildflowers are better given to that other shopkeep tbh

[lyric sparrow]

Yeah, Linus was a blessing with the Fried Calamari. Especially when I was still repeating the Qi's Prismatic Grange quest often.

[trim plinth]

I always have 50+ of iridium crocus, by the end of Y1, so it's not an offer problem

Blue melons are that bad.

[distant seal]

I am not happy with my house, idk what to do because I was trying to make a room based loosel off every skill

THe fishing room, mining room, combat/adventure room, foraging room

[undone bridge]

So how good is the fish smoker, I’m early game and money is hard to get

[distant seal]

I need ideas lol

[lyric sparrow]

Is that modded? Or are there more rooms in 1.6?

[distant seal]

All vanilla so it's more rooms

[lyric sparrow]

Very cool.

[lyric sparrow]

Some people really love it. I think you might need coal for other things. One coal to one fish cuts into the profits quite a bit. I guess it depends on how good you are at getting a lot of free coal. Because buying wood from Robin in year 1 and turning 100 of it into one piece of coal would mean any fish you smoke worth less than 100g is losing you money.

[undone bridge]

Well what’s a way I can make money

Just fishing normally?

[trim plinth]

yes it is a good starter. Try to catch largemouth at the mounatin lake during spring Y1

[undone bridge]

And smoke them?

[trim plinth]

smoke comes later

[undone bridge]

I’m in summer y1

[trim plinth]

I would recommened creating a preserving jar farm before going for smoking

jars take 8 coal

summer fishing is about the ocean.

[undone bridge]

Whattt that’s so much

[trim plinth]

wood is only 10g if you buy it from Robin during y1

you should have plenty of trees to cut though

[undone bridge]

Yeh

So what should I put in the jar

[trim plinth]

strawberries from spring, melons blueberries

when you unlock kegs it becomes better to make wine

but some crops are still more profitable with jars

you want many jars and many kegs

[trim plinth]

1 tile tables to put items on them, then get crazy

[undone bridge]

[[Preserve_Jar]]

Damn

[regal ivy]

[[Preserves_Jar]]

[formal gorge]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Preserves_Jar

[undone bridge]

Thank youuu

[lyric sparrow]

Strawberries, cauliflower, melons, pumpkins. High value crops make the best jellies/pickles.

[trim plinth]

Only cauliflowers remain more profitable in jars instead of kegs. But reaching the farming level for kegs takes time. In fall, you should have it though and pumpkins should be processed in kegs.

The wiki has a list

[high rampart]

get a bait maker and a fish smoker and when it's catfish season fish for them anytime it rains

[trim plinth]

Yams in jars are pretty good

Tea leaves being better in jars than in kegs is strange.

[undone bridge]

What does it make in jars

[regal ivy]

Pickled leaves?

[woven tusk]

Very normal snack

[lyric sparrow]

There's a case to be made for jars and pumpkins of you want to make money quicker.
Juice takes 4 days to make, pickles take 3 days. Pumpkin juice base price is 720, while pickles go for 690. Sounds better to make juice, right?
But every 12 days you make juice, you are getting 3 batches for a total of 2160, while in the same 12 days you can make four batches of pickles for 2760.
Add to this fact that all veggies except pumpkins and red cabbage are actually worth less as juice than pickles, and this is why I say you should never make juice.

[candid sequoia]

me making potato juice for pam

[lyric sparrow]

LOL. I set aside a dozen potatoes for just this occasion.

[candid sequoia]

thats good preparation

better preparation is getting 12 fairy dust so you’re not wasting kegs

[wispy spruce]

boil em mash em stick em in a stew

[wheat sluice]

You called?

[wheat sluice]

screams internally

[trim plinth]

I usually do not have much to put in my kegs, while I have many options for jars. Late into the game, my jars are used for fish roe. I think I will keep on doing what I am doing, but your point stands and is interesting.

[lyric sparrow]

I had jars set aside for just fish roe, so I can understand the need for dedicated jars for that. It was my first real save and I had 8 ponds. I'm trying to get back to that kind of diversity, on a smaller scale since I have Riverlands this time with not as much room as I'm accustomed to.

[lunar adder]

confirmed: the Old Mariner does show up during radioactive rain

[lyric sparrow]

He just looks a little different.

[trim plinth]

Riverlands is cruel. When I played it, I remember pushing the house up, and the green house to the right and using the freed gh space for ponds. Maybe the centered island should have been my choice but I setup a tree farm there. No fish pond on riverland seems counter intuitive. Their 5x5 size is a real pain on these lands.

[lyric sparrow]

I've noticed. I've used the big center island for the barn and coop, as it has the most land for grass. The mainland has the house, three different crop plots, the greenhouse and one shed (with room for another) and my tree tapper farm on the grass.
That leaves very little room for fish ponds. And I'll have to break them up as the biggest spots only have room for 2, and I want at least 4.

And I have to be careful to leave room for my horse to get through.

[trim plinth]

I feel the map should have promoted using fishponds instead of making them harder to get. We need a warp zone to Dave the diver.

[lunar adder]

hey guys so. what do raisins do again

i forget

[warped panther]

junimos have a 20% chance to double harvest if fed raisins

[trim plinth]

wine or dehydrated stuff or jelly

[warped panther]

raisins last 1 week and are applied to the junimo hut

[trim plinth]

Is it not better with dehydrated raisin ? I never play junimos

[warped panther]

raisins are already dehydrated grapes

[trim plinth]

oh

raisin is french word for grape, so I got confused. mb

[lunar adder]

i knew they had something to do with junimo i just didn’t know what

[sacred nymph]

How to get junimo hut

[north turtle]

you have to complete a quest for the wizard and you get access to his catalogue, you can build it from there

[lyric sparrow]

That game freaks me out. It not only has my name, it kind of looks like me. LOL

[distant seal]

I hate the RNG for Qi quests

I still haven't gotten the dangerous mines quest

[lyric sparrow]

Yeah, it's the most important one to get.

[tough remnant]

This is of course assuming that you have more crops than you are capable of processing

If you produce 100 crops a week, and you have a choice of 100 kegs, 100 jars, or 100 dehydrators... you just pick whichever gets you the most money per crop, because you're not going to be making full use of the crops regardless

[woven tusk]

Allegedly, ones you haven't yet completed have a better chance of spawning-- for both Qi's orders and the regular Special Order board back in town.
I don't know if it's true and I don't know how big the effect is if so, though. (Qi keeps spamming me with SC Invasion...)

[opal terrace]

He's trying to tell you something

[unborn quartz]

I keep having the hungry challenge, and no

[quiet rampart]

absolutely the worst one out of all of them

well maybe except Junimo Kart, depending on your luck with sunset speedway 💀

[unborn quartz]

That part? I die at the freaking whale

Dam bubbles

[quiet rampart]

fr the rng is crazy

sometimes you can't even reach the fruits without popping bubbles

[unborn quartz]

First time I reached it, I had a perfect game and got 30k points
I died on the first bubble
the challenge stopped that day x)

[quiet rampart]

[opal terrace]

I have never played junimo kart even once and I intend to keep it that way

[quiet rampart]

a wise decision

[rose knoll]

Junimo Cart is "How many ways can RNG hate you"

[cloud crystal]

I played Junimo Kart like once, and it was... frustrating but more playable for me than Prairie King ever could be ;_; (and I always skip the Qi quest for it because no.)

(at least with Junimo Kart it's only the RNG that hates me and not the controls)

[rose knoll]

Junimo Kart's decision of "Well, you made a move without knowing of the existence of the next jump because it was offscreen, now die" is real 'fun'

[quiet rampart]

BOI controls

[cloud crystal]

oh I agree. it's not good, it just has Binding of Isaac controls without BOI's option to swap them (that I enabled immediately so I could play BOI)

[quiet rampart]

fr

[cloud crystal]

(arrow keys for movement are just more intuitive to me than WASD)

[rigid breach]

i got 50020 and never touched it again!

[tough remnant]

Junimo Cart is mostly fine

[stoic dock]

One mess up and you shall cry

[tough remnant]

Whale level and mushroom level however can go die in a hole

Whale level can just screw you with bubble RNG blocking the critical path, and there's nothing you can do about it, because the level gen doesn't account for the bubbles

And the spore mushrooms in the mushroom level have a similar problem - they're randomly placed after the level gen and not guaranteed to be possible. They usually are, but not always

[stray swift]

ghastly galleon

the amount of runs i have lost to it on a second loop is crazy

speaking of which i havent done junimo kart in a while so i should do some now !!!

[trim plinth]

You should give it a try. This is a truly amazing game.

[dreamy gust]

I struggle so bad with prairie king because of the controls

Which is a shame because I really dig the concept

[blazing echo]

omg i hate jotpk i feel u

steam achievements taunting me ☹️

[dreamy gust]

I learned that you can cheese the Abigail Heart Event one by just sticking to a corner and having good reflexes

You literally don't have to move from the corner, just shoot up down and diagonally

[blazing echo]

loll i suppose that works

[tough remnant]

Prairie King is fun until the graveyard world IMO

[sonic skiff]

i remember trying to beat it years back. i had like a steam guide open trying to figure it out

i Think i made it past the first shop

[stray swift]

its mostly good except fector is hard and 3-3 is like so stupid with the amount of imps that it spawns

[tough remnant]

I don't mind Fector

It's the regular world 3 levels that suck

[leaden stratus]

Yeah from what I remember Fector was ok

But world 3 levels made me lose my mind

[stray swift]

i say fector is hard but thats an assumption because i've done the machine gun cheese every time

[leaden stratus]

I tried to cheese him but failed to so had to fight him the normal way

He's not too bad

Getting to him is the main problem

[steady narwhal]

Is there any way to change vendors in the desert festival other than sleeping in different locations?

I checked alex and elliott and they're very far (in years 22 for Alex and 26 for Eliott)

[tough remnant]

I didn't think sleeping in different locations could change that

That's news to me

[steady narwhal]

That's what I did when I went to collect the spouse weapons

I'm missing Alex and Elliott and they're not BUDGING to be in the stalls

[tough remnant]

I thought the only way to manipulate it was with marriages and divorces

[steady narwhal]

Not only that but the person running and time you sleep

[steady narwhal]

Dang it may seem I'll need to break a few hearts...

[tough remnant]

But desert festival vendors are supposed to be seeded?

[steady narwhal]

Ish

They can be changed to another depending on the person running, the time and location you sleep at

I got Abigail by switching Pierre through sleeping at the farm using a tent at around 7PM

[tough remnant]

Actually... I think I get what's happening with that

I think the order of the list of vendors is dependent on which map they're on at the end of the previous day

[steady narwhal]

How would that work

Does it mean depending on the area they were at when I sleep would give them a chance or so?

[tough remnant]

Yeah, I think so. So if you want Alex or Elliot, you probably want to try sleep when they're in transit between different maps

[steady narwhal]

By transit meaning when they're going from one place to another?

[tough remnant]

Yeah

Like, get Alex when he's in the spa lobby or some shit

[steady narwhal]

That may or may not explain why I get Sam's family almost every year in the desert festival

[tough remnant]

Well, not actually there, because that's winter

[steady narwhal]

Dang that's going to be tedious

I just got to spring lmao

[steady narwhal]

Hmm would blocking the villagers help with this?

I'm planning to block every single villager except elliott and alex

[tough remnant]

I don't think so

[steady narwhal]

Shoot

[tough remnant]

Could a little I suppose

But probably not worth it

[steady narwhal]

When you mention transit do you mean the frame when they enter to another location

[tough remnant]

No

I just meant when they're passing through a map where they're only there for a short while

[steady narwhal]

Oh gosh

[tough remnant]

But this is why marriage messes with who gets selected AFAIK

Because it means that your spouse ends the day in your house

Rather than their house

[steady narwhal]

Dang

[tough remnant]

And that changes the order

[steady narwhal]

I don't wanna lose my zero marriage streak

[tough remnant]

Oh, you can probably also influence it by hiring Robin to build something lol

[steady narwhal]

Hmm does Robin need to run the stand?

[tough remnant]

Since that means she'll be on your farm or in a building

[steady narwhal]

I could try that too

[tough remnant]

I don't think it really controls things that precisely

[steady narwhal]

Might need to make her build a building that costs two days

[tough remnant]

I think the way it works is basically that it affects the order in which villagers get loaded before the list gets shuffled

[steady narwhal]

That's going to be tedious considering he goes there during winter

[steady narwhal]

Been sleeping in tents when Alex was going out of the house

Still no change

Currently spring year 11

[tough remnant]

Yeah, the changes would only ever be minor

[steady narwhal]

Married Emily and got Haley lmao

Dang the vendors change ALOT

When I marry...

[maiden fiber]

Farming mastery is usually the first pick

[normal shell]

thanks

[trim plinth]

I went for mining 1st in my current run(farming 2nd). I needed ores at the time and it payed off.

A few SC runs, farming for iridium rocks, and you will get 3 first mastery unlocks quite fast.

[leaden stratus]

sc runs are one of the best ways to get exp for mastery so that's a good reason to go mining first

you're going to have better sc runs

[chilly orbit]

I just upgraded to the new version (I went from mobile to PC) damn it's full of stuff I wish I had right away

[chilly bloom]

If you have the gear and skill for a deep dive you can even get all masteries from a single dive

Do have to mine a fair bit, easier during the desert fest (calico nodes give same xp as iridium for some reason)

[lyric sparrow]

Third day of the desert fest. Not really enthused about the stuff you can buy with those calico eggs so far. First day I got 20 coal from Clint, the only thing worth buying. The trading cart at least had some roasted hazelnuts so I have a loved gift for Kent.
Second day some fiber and clay from Vincent, and wood chipper that I'll never use from Kent, and pocketed the extra 60 calico eggs because it didn't seem like a measly 2 staircases was worth the exchange. All-in-all, it was hardly worth the two days it took to get a meager amount of stuff.

[rose knoll]

I end up dumping most of my calico eggs into mega bombs

[tough remnant]

Did you check out the main shop?

Or only the townsfolk stalls?

[lyric sparrow]

The one with Krobus, or the one below that? Nothing interesting to me in either one.

[tough remnant]

Krobus?

[lyric sparrow]

And completing the kill 10 mummies quest twice has depleted my stock of staircases and bombs to the point where it was not really worth the cost.

[tough remnant]

I don't think the egg tent shop is rub by Krobus

But it offers a Magic Rock Candy on day 3

Plus a lot of rare clothes and furniture

And bombs and food and stuff

[chilly bloom]

I usually just spend all of mine on the forage books

Got level 2-10 in 3 days with it

[lyric sparrow]

Whatever this dude is that looks like Krobus hiding behind the counter with only the top of his head popping up.

I think I'm going to revert to yesterday's save and skip the last two days of this fest and do something more worth my time and get back at least yesterday's bombs and staircases I burned for a measly amount of calico eggs that only got me some fiber and clay I could have just as easily gotten elsewhere in a fraction of the time and at none of the cost.

[woven tusk]

No good villager shops spawned those days?

[woven tusk]

Oh, okay.

The calico eggs themselves at least come with a lot of EXP (50 per node) to quickly race through Mastery levels if you're not maxed yet.
I suspect you might already have maxed it, though

[lyric sparrow]

Not at level 10 in all skills yet. Maybe next year it will be a consideration, but now it's not. I'm more concerned with the equivalent of paying $100 on carnival games to win a stuffed teddy bear worth $7. What I dropped on bombs and staircases, on bad luck days no less, wasn't worth what I got in return.
I had a pretty good day in SC the day before the Fest.

I think I'll save my bombs and staircases to have another one of those.

[merry briar]

I'm still waiting for the Switch update to come.

[blazing echo]

nov 4th

put it in ur agenda

[mellow atlas]

is there a mistake?

[rich lake]

Any mods?

[mellow atlas]

0 mods

i also have 7 colors of silver fairy roses...

but only 6 iridium

[rich lake]

Odd

[mellow atlas]

i also heard that you can get unusual color from item id glitch but they change color when stacked with regular

and they can be only regular quality

[rich lake]

Yeah you're not supposed to get the pink one according to wiki

[mellow atlas]

here is another screenshot

[rich lake]

The one you only have one of

[mellow atlas]

and 5 silver...

idk maybe they are just really rare

[rich lake]

Very weird lol

[mellow atlas]

cause i used to plant a lot of them on fall

[crisp kindle]

How do I get such a big chest, or is that a mod?

[rich lake]

For you to get 6 like that it's cause they're not very rare. Even if they were, it would still be in the game code so it would be on the wiki

[rich lake]

1.6 big chest

[crisp kindle]

Oh nice, thanks!

[mellow atlas]

and recipe can be purchased from robin

@crisp kindle

[mellow atlas]

so it becomes really strange...

[rich lake]

Yeah it does

[mellow atlas]

i use steam version with 0 mods even didn't use glitches

[crisp kindle]

Ah perfecto, thank you 🫡

[mellow atlas]

@chilly bloom do you still have the power to change the wiki? i found something strange

(7 colours of fairy roses)

[tidal helm]

flowers

[chilly bloom]

Was this in multiplayer by any chance?

I’ve seen issues arising from that

[mellow atlas]

yeah, was it the reason?

[chilly bloom]

Did they have a mod by any chance?

[mellow atlas]

no

absolutely

[chilly bloom]

No visual mods or anything

[mellow atlas]

and these flowers were produced in single player afterwards

[mellow atlas]

still no

[chilly bloom]

Oh damn really

Because all flowers naturally have 7 obtainable colours but one isn’t harvestable

[mellow atlas]

one is from id glitch?

or what

[chilly bloom]

Or from buying through the cart

Yea, they spawn with like defaulted colour values

[mellow atlas]

hmm but they cant be diffent quality?

[chilly bloom]

Exactly

[rich lake]

Cart is always base quality yeah

Hey Gorilla

[chilly bloom]

So could you lay out the flowers of the different colours right next to eachother and resend the ss?

[mellow atlas]

i can send a video

links are not banned there?

[chilly bloom]

They aren’t banned here but a ss would be best

A chest with just the 7 colours and no duplicates

[mellow atlas]

okay give me a sec

[chilly bloom]

Thank you 🙏

[mellow atlas]

@chilly bloom here you go

[chilly bloom]

Thanks, I’ll try to figure out what I can then add to the wiki that there is another colour if I was stupid and missed that in a patch or something

It doesn’t look like a default or unintentional colour? Like it’s a bright pink that fits the colour palate

So there’s a good chance it was added

[mellow atlas]

i have to plant another fields of different flowers then maybe we could find out something new...

[mellow atlas]

and i have to mention that all these flowers were obtained after 1.6

[chilly bloom]

Yeah I thought as much, thanks

[mellow atlas]

sorry to add that i turned all my regular quality fairy roses to fairy dust

[chilly bloom]

Yeah do check for other flowers

[chilly bloom]

No problem, the quality ones are all that matters and it’s obvious to see it happens with 2/4 qualities so presumably happens with all

[chilly bloom]

Hi David so sorry I missed your message

[mellow atlas]

but as you can see from the quantity pink ones are rare

not really really rare but compared to other colours

[chilly bloom]

I did notice that

[rich lake]

Heya, you're good!

[chilly bloom]

Like super rare, not sure whether the 1 gold or 5 silver is a fluke tho

Could you maybe harvest some more if you have the time?

[mellow atlas]

i also found my ss from farm when i planted them

which is posted here long time ago

[mellow atlas]

yeah i'll try that

[mellow atlas]

don't see anything unusual btw

[mellow atlas]

@chilly bloom idk maybe it was something related to junimos... but im more likely to think that i harvested everything myself

[chilly bloom]

Unless I’m tripping I don’t see any pink ones

Though they are rare

The only thing I’ve seen that’s similar was an issue revolving around presumably a farmhand sending packets altering the look of blue jazz but that was such a particular case we aren’t even sure that’s what happened

That was specifically multiplayer with one person having visual mods too

[hushed hare]

can you try putting it on a sign and a table, maybe it changes colors?

[chilly bloom]

Good idea, I’d like to see its actual look

If it exists or not

[hushed hare]

what happens if you gift it to Evelyn or Jas, do they still love it?

[chilly bloom]

The actual item isn’t changed, presumably just a colour value. Could mess around with it to confirm tho

[hushed hare]

oh, and try crafting fairy dust with it

[mellow atlas]

I'll do it ant I'll keep you updated I have to do everything with just pink one?

and i just remembered i also harvested some of my roses on GI and some from flower pots on GI

but there is no pink ones

i would like to go to fall faster to record a video and maybe i could catch them

or anyone with fall on their late game save

[hushed hare]

could be a bug with the "hands full" trick while harvesting honey, maybe it changed the flower?

[mellow atlas]

good idea

i'm pretty sure i used that trick

[hushed hare]

that would explain how you have so few of those

and no iridium quality

[mellow atlas]

yeah cause i used deluxe retaining soil in them and no quality fertiliser

or maybe it's just GI feature

@chilly bloom do you still have your honey farm on GI? you could try that out

[chilly bloom]

That’s on mobile, still 1.5

I did get one hit though, the “new colour” was as I expected the traveling cart colour

It’s just odd that you could harvest it

[mellow atlas]

yeah

so there must be some terms

so maybe it was

1. 1.6 new feature/bug
2. GI feature/bug
3. Garden pots feature/bug
4. multiplayer farm feature/bug
5. junimo hut's feature/bug (maybe related to raisins)

now I'll put some pots with DRS on GI to check on that

@chilly bloom can junimos with raisins duplicate flowers?

extra harvest feature

that would also proof why i have no iridium pink roses

cause i didnt use quality fertiliser on that part of farm

i only had quality fertiliser on top of my farm where there was no junimo huts

for me the raisin theory makes more sense than any other

@hushed hare @chilly bloom wdy think about that?

[chilly bloom]

Ohhhhhh

You know that may be it

It’s causing them to give regular flower colours

[hushed hare]

I haven't grown too many roses with or without fertilizer, can't say much about that, but it might be

[mellow atlas]

daamn so it can be it for any type of flowers

I'll try that with spring flowers

[chilly bloom]

Do, I think it’s it too, I’m testing myself rn

[mellow atlas]

1.5 or 1.6?

[chilly bloom]

Would be orettt nice even if niche, going to go suggest it to someone I know doing the 999 challenge (they like collecting quality too)

1.6 now, gone back to pc

[hushed hare]

well, junimos can duplicate only in 1.6

[chilly bloom]

^

Raisins themselves are 1.6

[mellow atlas]

yeah that was the reason of my question

either it is just junimos or it is raisins

i don't know anyone who planted fields of flowers for junimos to harvest them

so that is why it was unseen

[chilly bloom]

Raisins would solve why they’re so rare

[finite horizon]

Remind me in 4 hours to check

But yeah, that makes sense

Oh my god botto

[chilly bloom]

I’m checking with someone already in game but from a code perspective that’d be nice

[mellow atlas]

let's go

on record

[chilly bloom]

Did they actually harvest the default colour tho?

[mellow atlas]

i'm still waiting

[chilly bloom]

lol

Fair, lil guys are crazy slow

[mellow atlas]

@chilly bloom they didn't...

i'll just try again

[chilly bloom]

Yeah I was about to say

Before you only got one gold one for like 180 other gold flowers

So it’s rare

[mellow atlas]

and if the terms are true...

maybe it was something different

i think i used speedgrow as a fertiliser too but that can't be somthing that matters

damn im going to miss out on desert fest but it's okay

[signal path]

Why don’t the same colour same quality stack..

[rich lake]

They do

There's 6 different colours there for each quality

Some just look very alike

[mellow atlas]

okay next try

wasted all my blue flowers now going for some tulips too

look at this mess

[keen wren]

can u not get another golden pumpkin?

[mellow atlas]

yes you can

[keen wren]

why'd i get a ticket instead?

[mellow atlas]

it is now obtainable from boxes or fishing or fest idk

[kindred saddle]

spoiler image

[mellow atlas]

why?

[kindred saddle]

OH MB I THOUGHT THIS WAS SEASONED FARMERS

[keen wren]

did u not read the channel name?

gotcha

[kindred saddle]

im so sorry lol 😭

[keen wren]

no worries

ah so it can be either a ticket or Golden Pumpkin

[rich lake]

I think it depends on even/uneven year

[keen wren]

ok

[rich lake]

But you can get as many golden pumpkins as you want from artifact troves

Doesn't have to be from the festival

[keen wren]

gotcha

[mellow atlas]

no damned luck with that flowers

@chilly bloom did you find anything new?

i had high hopes for that theory

gotta try on summer with speedgrow now

you sure you didn't miss it?

you have to search through available buildings and find it there

[rose knoll]

The building upgrades are in real weird spots in her menu - I've definitely had to really search to find them before

[mellow atlas]

i think he found it since he deleted his message...

[rose knoll]

That's fair - I've definitely missed them before

Feel like "Upgrade Building" should really have just been its own menu item

[finite horizon]

A search bar would be great 😀

[chilly bloom]

I can message you

[mellow atlas]

?

[chilly bloom]

Didn’t want to clog this chat with screenshots from our discussion but I can paraphrase

You need the hut to be full and then I belive the junimos picking up flowers will bring back ones without quality which you can then open the hut to afaik

It’s a tad confusing

But when huts are full the junimos drop items on the ground

That’s the basic gist

[mellow atlas]

yeah i had it today

i actually thought that could be it

but i didn't get any regular

did you?

anyway i sent you dm request if you have any ss or whatever you can send me

[hushed hare]

I can't speak for everyone, but I'd like it if we could also find out the resolution of the mystery of the default colored flower

[chilly bloom]

Nah I basically explained it

[chilly bloom]

What about it, I know most of the information around it

[wet cedar]

How long after a raccoon bundle before the next one starts?

I completed the first one and now he says maybe he’ll have a wife

[chilly bloom]

A week

[wet cedar]

Kk ty

[distant seal]

AAAAHHHH

If I restart, I still get the same special orders right?

I am on Year 4 and no luck....

[chilly bloom]

You could try dynamic seeding

Quests are tied to seed

[quiet rampart]

do the latter

trust me, it's very enjoyable /s

[distant seal]

Lol I hate Junimo Kart so much

[quiet rampart]

JK itself (progress mode) isn't too bad, the quest is...

you get fucked over by RNG

[topaz tendon]

omg what is this

oh thats your farmer LMAO i thought it's some new quest

[deep tusk]

when update for console dropping?

[chilly bloom]

a lil iridium pan pal

[topaz tendon]

November 4th

[rose knoll]

Dear Skull Cavern - An Auto-Grabber is nice, but I was really looking for the other one.

Was super disappointed when I saw my farmer holding it up, then read the text

[quiet rampart]

relatable

[rose knoll]

Can't complain too much about a 25k item, but still.

Next floor was another treasure room - Game decided to taunt me with eggplant seeds

[quiet rampart]

why did Qi put random crop seeds in chests

[vapid wind]

Qi me disliked

[rose knoll]

I mean, Qi probably robs a million graves considering all the mummies let loose

Now if only he'd stick some battery powered robots in here

[quiet rampart]

if they dropped battery packs that would actually be amazing

[rose knoll]

Yeah - My sprinkler expansion is limited by batteries

[gilded acorn]

28 DAYS. I ONLY GOT 3

[quiet rampart]

you can never have enough crystalariums either

[quiet rampart]

did you start on the last friday of the season or something?

[gilded acorn]

probably

[quiet rampart]

damn

[gilded acorn]

i only got to 300

[tough remnant]

Hey, they're super useful for challenge runs at least

[quiet rampart]

huh, never thought about that

but yeah

[tough remnant]

So many items accessible without spending money/visiting shops because of that

[rose knoll]

Just wish treasure rooms showed up more then once a blue moon, but then they wouldn't be special

[quiet rampart]

MRC does help with that a lot

[rose knoll]

True - Just gotta stack enough luck bonuses

They just always show up on days where I have other things to get done

[tough remnant]

They're more than common enough with the amount of luck you can stack

[rose knoll]

I need to actually refill my iron and gold ore supply for bombs, and get my pickaxe fully upgraded - Ideally I'm not manually mining, but. Holding onto my MRC until I can get it all together

[gilded acorn]

i need help im trying to reach 100% all crafted items but i cant find some craft recipes and idk how to get them

[tough remnant]

!checkup

[unkempt dome]

Curious about your in-game achievement status? Tracking perfection? Stardew Checkup can help you find what you’re missing. BEWARE OF SPOILERS. https://mouseypounds.github.io/stardew-checkup/

To use this command, type !checkup.

[tough remnant]

Stardew checkup can help

[gilded acorn]

wht that

[tough remnant]

I just linked it

[zinc elm]

i have a question

why is 1.6 stuff considered spoiler ?

[pure nymph]

not all platforms have it

only pc has 1.6

rest are 1.5

[zinc elm]

so ?

[pure nymph]

some people dont want spoilers

[zinc elm]

i still dont get it

[quiet rampart]

well we wouldn't want to spoil the game for people who play on other platforms, now would we

[pure nymph]

some people playing 1.5 dont want spoilers

so... yeah

[zinc elm]

u mean they wanna experience 1.6 content themselves first time ?

[pure nymph]

yeah

[quiet rampart]

yeah

[zinc elm]

i see

ok

such urges make no sense to me but everyone is different

when is 1.7 coming ?

[sacred river]

Before GTA 6

[quiet rampart]

lmfao

[pure nymph]

we dont know if there will even be a 1.7

ca wants to work on a new game

[quiet rampart]

HC :D

[sacred river]

You know what else ca wants to work on

[pure nymph]

mmm chocolate

[zinc elm]

he can give this game to 10 ppl team

to update

[sacred river]

No

[pure nymph]

if he wants to maybe

[zinc elm]

why lol... dont u wanna be part of that team ?? 🥺

[pure nymph]

but very unlikely

[zinc elm]

is there any video telling all whats new in 1.6 in a single video

i wish to know to avoid spoilers

[mellow atlas]

@chilly bloom YEAH I GOT IT AGAIN

im pretty sure now that it cames from full junimo hut issue

[mellow atlas]

@chilly bloom look what i got after i got all my junimo huts full 💀💀💀

[rich lake]

Are those all the default unharvestable color?

[lunar adder]

guys my hoppers aren’t funneling items into my heavy furnaces and idk why

[trim plinth]

probably bc it is not coded

!officialbug

[unkempt dome]

If you've checked that it's not a mod bug:

• Report gameplay bugs to the Stardew Valley developers here: https://forums.stardewvalley.net/forums/12/ (do a quick search first so you don't report something they're already looking into).
• Report typos or translation errors here: https://forums.stardewvalley.net/forums/32/
  Alternatively, you can email [e-mail]

To use this command, type !officialbug.

[mellow atlas]

yes

i also have a video footage of it

[rich lake]

Oh awesome

[trim plinth]

That would be good for a forum report as well

[lunar adder]

no it’s working for most of my heavy furnaces

i have 10 set up but only 7 are working

[leaden stratus]

what the f...

luck skill mod fucked me up real bad

[normal shell]

When used, do the books from the bookseller give +1 speed?

[trim plinth]

not that much iirc

[analog owl]

+0.25 speed each

[woven tusk]

And the default is 5.0, I think? So that comes out to 5%

[normal shell]

Ah okay

[rigid breach]

posting this in r/fuckpierre for my enjoyment

chaos ensue

[mellow atlas]

@chilly bloom https://stardewvalleywiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?title=Talk:Fairy_Rose&oldid=178892

[mellow atlas]

check an answer on the wiki for this issue

it is an already reported bug as i understand

fix is not far away

[mighty bronze]

hey i saw something about a door in cindersnap, whats that all about?

[hushed hare]

there's a new 1.6 door north-east of the spot you usually find spring onions

[mighty bronze]

oh okay! ill be looking into that when i start my game up! thank you!

[leaden stratus]

I didn't know cindersnap is a location in stardew valley

[wild moss]

Look man, Haunted Chocolatier’s leaking, it’s fine.

[rough frigate]

I hope they charge us mobile players more money, I believe no one will mind! Please just don’t give up on us, don’t give up updates mobile version and PLEASE 🙏🏻 make sure Haunted Chocolatier will be on mobile too!!😭

[opal terrace]

the update is literally coming to mobile next month

[rich lake]

It increases with XP gain

You're not quite lost, you know what's going on lol

[trim plinth]

When the message pops up : "a new way has been opened", you do not really need to go there yet. You have to wait for the first bar to be filled to truly be able to do something.

[maiden fiber]

!cindersnap

[unkempt dome]

it’s called “Cindersap Forest”, not cindersnap!

To use this command, type !cindersnap.

[maiden fiber]

/lh

[karmic aurora]

Just found out that 100% with no tools is (kinda) possible

[maiden fiber]

Why the scythe?

[blazing echo]

awh snap

[trim plinth]

Why ? which tools ?

[chilly bloom]

Yeah it’s fully reproducible every time, it’s just how the junimos work, they don’t assign colour data to the flower when it’s spawned in (the flower they pick isn’t the same as the one they drop for ease of coding)

[karmic aurora]

You can't get a golden walnut without the scythe

[leaden stratus]

you can

[trim plinth]

wha

[karmic aurora]

If you allowed yourself to use the golden scythe and the rod you 100% the game

[trim plinth]

I do not understand

[karmic aurora]

There is one golden walnut in the volcano that requires a scythe to get

[trim plinth]

really ? which one ?

[leaden stratus]

you mean the crate ones?

[trim plinth]

There is one at the east of the volcano that requires the slingshot. One requires a fish rod. But the scythe ?
Multiple actually require a fishing rod.

[leaden stratus]

pretty sure there is a walnut that you can't get without either steel or powerful pickaxe

[karmic aurora]

The one in the west inside of the volcano the one where you get the squirrel statue

[trim plinth]

true on the beach

I do not remember ever using a scythe to get a golden walnut

[leaden stratus]

this walnut already kills a no starting tools run

[tough remnant]

You do not need a scythe

[leaden stratus]

unless you can somehow get it with bombs

[karmic aurora]

You need to do a scythe no clip to get there

[leaden stratus]

if you're no clipping then you need a scythe to even enter volcano dungeon lol

[tough remnant]

Ah, getting there without watering can

Can't you just use a sword?

[karmic aurora]

That also works

[tough remnant]

I think no starting tools is 100%able in theory? Struggling to think of what can't be done

[lyric sparrow]

Having fun. Having fun can't be done. 🤣

[trim plinth]

the pan is needed for some bones

[tough remnant]

Only thing I'm not sure about is whether you can dig journal scrap spots with bombs

Pan is not a starting tool

[leaden stratus]

if you count upgraded pickaxe then it's not

[karmic aurora]

You're allowed to use outside tools

[leaden stratus]

well if you don't sell your soul

[tough remnant]

Upgraded tools don't count towards perfection

[leaden stratus]

you can't get all walnuts without a pickaxe

if you want to get them by hand

[tough remnant]

All the pickaxe ones are bombable

[leaden stratus]

there's a walnut under a giant rock

[tough remnant]

ooooooh

Forgot that one yeah

[leaden stratus]

you need steel pickaxe/powerful enchant

[tough remnant]

Buried walnut under a big rock

[leaden stratus]

and boom the run is impossible without joja

[karmic aurora]

Can't you just bomb that rock?

[leaden stratus]

no

[tough remnant]

Big rocks aren't bombable

[trim plinth]

It's a 2x2 rock

[karmic aurora]

And?

[tough remnant]

And those can't be bombed

[trim plinth]

I do not remember any 2x2 rock being destroyable by bombs

[tough remnant]

Anyway, I'm much more interested in Max Waivers or Minimum Earnings (No Travelling Cart)

[distant seal]

Is there any value to increasing hearts for children?

[whole tangle]

Hm. Anyone try 25% profit margins? I'im thinking about doing a perfection run with it, wondered if anyone had tips other than not to try it?

also, fun name suggestions for the farm with 25% profit margins would be appreciated.

[dreamy gust]

Not that I'm aware

They don't even count towards Perfection

[rose knoll]

25% is just slower to gain money - Your seed prices are also reduced to 25%, so it makes upgrading tools/buildings harder, but makes quests and special orders more valuable in return

[dreamy gust]

Which is a shame because I want them to be more than glorified hat racks

[whole tangle]

That's awesome, i love the idea that special orders and quests are more worthwhile.

[rose knoll]

The only change in their value is that they'll make up a bigger portion of your money

[whole tangle]

That's enough incentive for me. I would normally just not because i felt like it was more worthwhile to keep the item.

[hushed hare]

same vibes as one of those cursed SIMS posts on reddit

[distant seal]

True!

[maiden fiber]

So you’d just need a weapon and slingshot, as well as watering can

[lyric sparrow]

Skinflint Farms
Dirt Cheap Acres

[whole tangle]

Awesome names, I'll prob use the second one tbh.

[lyric sparrow]

Pennypinchers. Though Penny might not like it. 🤣

[whole tangle]

hahaha fair 😂

[whole tangle]

The crusty crab at this point. 😂

[wet cedar]

I wish my dog could go in the dog house

[distant seal]

how good is master slingshot with explosive ammo

[woven tusk]

Tbh the primary use of a slingshot and explosive ammo isn't combat

It functions no differently from the regular slingshot at quickly smashing stones

[distant seal]

is it better than using mega bombs

[leaden stratus]

it only deals more dmg to you

[leaden stratus]

it's not a question of or

you use both

but for different situations

[distant seal]

First time seeing the giant qi fruit

[wet cedar]

Would archaeologist on my pan increase, decrease, or not affect the odds of getting a lucky ring?

[blazing echo]

lucky ring isnt any of those so im guessing no effect

[wet cedar]

Yeah but wouldnt the increased chance of artifacts technically decrease the chance of a ring?

Just got my first parrot egg and its a level 4!

[woven tusk]

I thought the ring was a separate independent roll

Pans aren't exactly limited to one item

[signal path]

Yay

[robust ice]

Nearing perfection on my current save, but I'm tempted to make a new one and if I make a new one I'm not going back.

[lyric sparrow]

They have different functions. Mega Bombs are for big areas with a lot of ores and no walls nearby. Since explosive ammo only detonates on contact with walls, mobs or rocks hiding ladders/holes, it's pretty useless in those bigger, wide-open caverns. Explosive ammo is great for quickly breaking rocks near walls, so great in corridors and narrower cave passages.

[rigid breach]

THEY HAD A FAMILY BONDING AT GINGER ISLAND?!?!?!!??!

WHAT.

(they just got home)

they're all looking forward to me going to egg hunt tomorrow

[rigid breach]

gang im actually curious

why arent my spouse/s not bringing our kids to festivals

its been 2 years since we had kids

[rigid breach]

fectors challenge my despised

im at stage 2 level 2

i think

and its my 5th reset

THE RNG IS SO BAD WTF

💀

i cannot do it anymore

[rose knoll]

Are you going in on a max luck day?

(Also would you like tips?)

[rigid breach]

luck doesnt affect drops

according to CA

[rigid breach]

also yes please (i just do the 1 level per day thing since im doing deathless at the same time as finishing prairie king)

so i never touch prairie king again

junimo kart is tolerable

prairie king, im so bad at it

[rose knoll]

First - probably can get away with two levels if you feel safe at it.

I reset at the first shop if I didn't get 15 coins on the first two rooms - That damage upgrade is so useful

[rigid breach]

i do not feel safe with two levels tbh LMFAO

it took me a few resets with the first boss fight

[rose knoll]

Then, next two - Buy damage again if you got REALLY lucky, otherwise skip.

Third shop, hopefully you have enough for dmg 2, but you only have one level because of miniboss

After you get dmg 2, you just pick up Fire Rate 1, then Fire Rate 2 (or Movement Speed 1, depending on money RNG)

[rigid breach]

oh i should do the damage thing next shop then

[rose knoll]

Always keep a rapid fire of some kind as your reserve skill - Sheriff, Wheel, Machine Gun, or Shotgun

[rigid breach]

i only had speed and shotgun i think

[rose knoll]

Dmg 2 is the critical breakpoint

You want the first damage immediately at the first shop and it's easier to just sac the run and start over if you don't

The minibosses are the hardest part until you figure out the trick to baiting them - Stand about an inch to the left of your safe spot, wait for them to move out and start shooting, then go mid-far right of your safe spot - If you're lucky they'll pause in the open on the right and you hammer them

Fector himself is easy because he's so cheesable

Second zone is annoying because enemies are fast - don't use nukes unless you have to because it destroys drops, wheel in reserve is probably the safest option.

Third zone mummies are a non-issue mostly, since they like to body block - Imps are the only major threat, especially in 3-3

[signal path]

Dang that’s a lot of words

Too bad I ain’t reading them

[vapid wind]

I can hear the voice

[signal path]

Good

I am glad you understood

I was not hating I was being silly

[karmic aurora]

Why is 1.6 taking so long to release on mobile?!?

[nova flame]

I think it’s because of code differences between pc and mobile/console.

[opal terrace]

there's been issues of some sort in the porting process

still there's a release date

if you waited this long you can wait out the rest of the month

[nova flame]

True

[tidal depot]

Think about it this way: the PC users were the testing ground so mobile and console will most likely get the bugfixes for the bugs PC users found right away

[distant seal]

Did you beat the game already

Like with at least one death I mean?

Also even though I won Fectors' Challenge...I have another enemy...RNG

I still have not gotten the quest to go to dangerous mines

But yet I get 1 million skull cavern invasion nonsense

[leaden stratus]

you do get radioactive ore from sc invasion so there's nothing you're missing out on

[distant seal]

Oh no I need it for the achievement

I already got plenty of ore

[dreamy gust]

I have the opposite problem, I keep getting the mines
And I just wanna do SC

[opal terrace]

[[Cave_Jelly#Strategy]]

[formal gorge]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Cave_Jelly#Strategy

[opal terrace]

@barren walrus it is mentioned on the wiki

[barren walrus]

it is?

[opal terrace]

.

[barren walrus]

theres a strategy guide? i didnt even see that

[rigid breach]

i refuse to die

so i decided to beat the game with no deaths on first try

[distant seal]

ooof

[rigid breach]

so i never touch it ever again

[distant seal]

I do recommend at least doing a level without dying successfully and then sleeping

so you can save your progress

[rigid breach]

i do this

[distant seal]

Oh okay good

[rigid breach]

every morning i spend 30 mins going to the saloon to beat 1 level then do my farm chores

my spouses wonder why i run off for half an hour then teleport back to the farm

[mossy dune]

Name one random item for me to get without ever leaving the farm as a challenge! (It has to be possible tho)

[dark phoenix]

i better get that cool cap before the patch drops on consoles or else i would have to pay more

[leaden stratus]

Living hat

[rich lake]

Iridium bar

[mossy dune]

That's a little better albeit still grindy

[rich lake]

Ain't fun if it's easy

[mossy dune]

I'm just glad you didn't say prismatic shard

[leaden stratus]

you wanted one item

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[rich lake]

Wouldn't be that much worse than iridium bar

[mossy dune]

Ik just that one is pure luck

[mossy dune]

It is far worse than iridium as you can't get shards from the farm mine

[leaden stratus]

luck is a skill

[rich lake]

Yeah you can. Iridium nodes

Same way you get iridium

[leaden stratus]

just need to do the same thing more times

[mossy dune]

Weird for some reason I thought the farm iridium didn't drop shards

[rich lake]

It should, I don't think the farm iridium nodes are any different from skull cavern iridium nodes

[leaden stratus]

yeah they are the same

[mossy dune]

I guess that means diamond is rarer

Diamond is also more valuable in the challenge

It's crazy how fast my slimes breed during the challenge

[mossy dune]

Strange doll would have probably been just as bad

[wet cedar]

I like the book system in 1.6 but I feel there’s a little bit of untapped potential

For instance, I’m in fall year 2. For the entire year, the book seller is pointless since I bought all possible power books from her and the Artifact Appraisal Guide is only available in year 3

Now, I have the artifact book since I got it from an artifact trove. So, she’ll never be useful again

[distant seal]

Man endgame is getting boring

[wet cedar]

I like all of the books and their effects are undoubtedly nice, but I feel there could’ve been more books with a bit greater effects

[distant seal]

I love this game but like I got perfection

and all I am doing is waiting for the final 2 achievements

[wet cedar]

Yeah post perfection is pretty meh if you aren’t into organizing your farm and house and making them look pretty

[hazy garden]

Or a different way to get them

[wet cedar]

Well there are alternate ways for most existing books

[distant seal]

I do like organizing

[leaden stratus]

or trying to make as much money as you can

[wet cedar]

To be fair though, perfection IS the end goal of a save

So it makes sense

[distant seal]

At this point, I might try to beautify my GI farm too

make it easier for me to traverse to Walnut Room

[leaden stratus]

imagine how it was before 1.5

after cc there's ''nothing'' to do

[wet cedar]

Yeah lol

[leaden stratus]

but at the same time there was a lot of things to do

you just had to make goals for yourself

[distant seal]

FINALLY

Danger in the Deep time

My last achievement

[lapis sphinx]

That one was also my last until 1.6 came and added a bunch more, lol.

[distant seal]

Lol were you able to get all achievements

Despite the 1.6 update adding more

[lapis sphinx]

I got them all now!

Perfection was the last one, Full House was second-to-last

[chilly bloom]

Nice!

[steady narwhal]

Hello FilthyGorilla

[chilly bloom]

Hey fishmunk

[steady narwhal]

Oh yeah I've seen the recent salmence video

[arctic kindle]

is this channel going to dissipate after the update on nov 4?

[quiet rampart]

probably, but there will be at least a month before it gets deleted

[chilly bloom]

?

[steady narwhal]

Salmence recently made a video on combat

Info is alright but last part of the video on highest damage can at least be improved

[chilly bloom]

Should comment on it

[steady narwhal]

I would've but a bit lenient

Had plans on doing a video on ||innates|| but eh there are a few videos out there already on it

[chilly bloom]

I mean most have slight disinformation or just are outright missing something

If you try to be as objective as possible I’m sure it’ll be new

Oh yeah just watched his video lol

Honestly most of his vids have some mistake, it’s a reason I don’t watch sdv yt, I just end up making some crazy long comment correcting stuff then usually deleting it because it feels pointless

[steady narwhal]

Yeah I just watch sdv videos just for fun and to see what they explain

Hmm should I comment? I have a feeling to do so lmao

[chilly bloom]

Yeah why not

[steady narwhal]

Fair I'll do it during my free time

[trim plinth]

I made a blue discus fish pond after planting my first banana sapling and got a banana from the pond before the banana tree got big. I remember someone was doubting it was reliable. I dropped multiple blue discus inside the pond at every growth time. It did not feel like a lot of work.

[chilly bloom]

Sometimes you can be equally unlucky

And generally the the 3 bananas don’t make much of a difference to get less than around a month faster

Could be situationally useful if you’re maybe playing an older version and want to get 100 walnuts in 2 days or smt for minmax

[trim plinth]

You can be equally unlucky in not getting a banana sapling. Fishing a blue discus is reliable. More chances to get something should lead to more efficiency. You need 12 bananas, for the gorilla, the obelisk and the recipe. Cutting 30 + 12 days seems good.

[quiet rampart]

the 'unluckiness' required to get no banana saplings is much higher though

there are many reliable sources for banana saplings

golden coconuts, the island field office, and even trading (though I'm pretty sure nobody uses the last one)

if you're not getting a banana sapling despite trying very hard, you are either incredibly unlucky or doing something wrong

fish ponds do help with getting bananas, yes, but they're not very reliable. if you want to get bananas asap then sure, go ahead

but personally, I wouldn't trouble myself with that and just get the obelisk a few days later

[sacred river]

Shipping

So that's 13

[tough remnant]

I can get behind this for the banana shrine, if you're doing a challenge run that needs to unlock Walnut Room super early, Blue Discus pond can be a decent gambit. But trying to get the 13 needed for Perfection... you'd need a pretty ridiculous number of ponds, or getting really lucky.

[leaden stratus]

or abuse animal cracker glitch

which still requires some luck

[tough remnant]

Yeah, or predictor

[trim plinth]

13 remains a lot and even if I get 3 bananas from ponds, I feel it still helps. The thing is, what really slows down going perfection is the 10 Millions required for the golden clock. Maybe with a bigger keg empire than I have, the 10 Millions would be easier to grind.

[leaden stratus]

honestly golden clock is one of the easiest parts of perfection

[tough remnant]

Eh, it's also one of the slowest

Like, if you're trying for Spring 3 Y2 Perfection, gold clock is going to actually be genuinely quite difficult

The only things slower are pure RNG (getting the right special orders in time) or just hard time gated (Kent friendship/recipes)

[leaden stratus]

if you're going for spring 3 y2 perfection you are aware that's difficult

[tough remnant]

Yeah, but I think asking which parts of perfection pose the biggest issues for that is a good way to evaluate how hard they are

[leaden stratus]

special orders are probably the biggest run killer if I had to guess

[tough remnant]

Friendship, Farmer Level, Museum, Fishing, etc. are all way easier

[trim plinth]

The obvious answer to get money is star fruit in kegs but how many would you need to be optimal ?

[leaden stratus]

in 1.5 museum would be highly rng based but in 1.6 it's much easier

[tough remnant]

Nah, 1.5 museum was still easy

Museum was hard in 1.4

[leaden stratus]

unless rng wanted to fuck you up

[tough remnant]

Especially since you have Winter

Which means you can get secret notes for the strange dolls

Much better solution than trying to dig for them in the mines

[trim plinth]

How do you get 10 friendship points with Kent by spring 3 Y2 ? Mass stardrop tea ? You would need a lot of them.