archived-update-spoilers

[woven tusk]

It also means they're more likely to see use for this purpose before the Salmonberries arrive

The other purpose is that you can feed a carrot to a horse to make it run slightly faster for the rest of the day

Like, if you wanted to do stuff with a 1day harvest cycle, that crop already exists: Hops.

Hops will drive a man insane.

[rose oxide]

maybe i'll just do the 1 day stuff to gather seeds and then stockpile enough carrots for the entire year then, since i'm already at year 3 with millions in the bank

[maiden fiber]

😭⁉️

[tender plinth]

oddly specific

[stone crypt]

not me trying to get golden tags in the trout derby

i feel like if the prize pool is this lame then we should at least be getting the gold tags more often

[rough galleon]

Anyone know when 1.6 update comes to the Switch

[dense kernel]

no.

[nimble turtle]

i like infodumps i do google spirals

[ebon haven]

i just did my first one for the hat

now im just ignoring the derby

[dense kernel]

sameeeee but sometimes I do it for the rainbow trouts

[hazy marten]

is it possible to upgrade cabins in single player in the update?

[dense kernel]

I don't think so, the way I did it was when someone came onto my save they obv move into the cabin then I just got them to upgrade the cabin although idk how many times it can be upgraded compared to the farm house

[rich lake]

Same ammount of times, 3

[dense kernel]

oh what's the 3rd upgrade for them ?

[rich lake]

Cellar

[dense kernel]

damn I had no idea the cabins could have those too

[silk field]

It drove me insane, thats for sure

I wonder how many Stardrop Teas you could amass before Morgan arrives?

[sacred river]

Depends entirely on luck, but you're guaranteed 2

[sacred river]

Mood tbh

[ebon dock]

Dude i was trying to catch a different (modded) fish and instead I got so many rainbow trouts that I got all the rewards

[silk field]

Mining > Farming > Combat > Foraging > Fishing

[ebon dock]

I like fishing the most

Then farming

Then combat

Then mining

And then foraging

[hushed hare]

anyone know if the golden and regular mystery boxes are included in the geodes mining statue blessing?

[fierce oar]

And then: Aw sheep.. Here we go again

[ebon dock]

idk man those mYSTIc trees are just PISSING me off

(i am not the ORIGINAL STARWALKER)

[fierce oar]

Speaking about combat, did ya know, that Desert cave dungeon had around 2,2 Billion floors?

[ebon dock]

Just call it the Skull Caverns for gods sake

and yes, I do know it

[fierce oar]

How many floors did ya passed?

[ebon dock]

210

[fierce oar]

500K

[ebon dock]

glitches do not count

we KNOW what YOU did

(there was a glitch which produced staircases in the Quarry mines, on using the stairs, you were teleported like a absurd amount of floors into the Skull cavern)

[silk field]

that puts you at ~77k

[ebon dock]

Well shit then

[silk field]

[ebon dock]

What did you abuse then

[fierce oar]

Well, if on my own, using ladders and without using holes, then I reached the maximum of the 300th floor.

[silk field]

Fishing is the least useful to me because it doesn't really give any benefits outside of its skill, and fishing itself is not that big

The advanced rod is nice though

[ebon dock]

Were you expecting the fishing mastery to allow you to fish up crops or what

[silk field]

obviously not

[ebon dock]

Then what

[silk field]

fishing mastery just isn't useful to me

[ebon dock]

understandable

[silk field]

however I did pick it over foraging just to spite Salmence

[ebon dock]

pffr

[fierce oar]

And you know, guys, I’m wondering what will be waiting for us on the very last floor of the Skull Cavern?

[ebon dock]

understandable

[silk field]

a game crash probably

[ebon dock]

A blue screen of death

[silk field]

or just a softlock

that'd be more likely

[fierce oar]

OR the biggest secret of game

[ebon dock]

imagine if you reach the end and Mr Qi just locks you up because he thinks you are too much of a threat to society

[silk field]

what the fuck bro i havent finished placing treasure rooms here yet

the next floor was meant to have 15 cactus seeds but you got here too damn fast

[fierce oar]

Or, alternatively, he will want to make the hero his right hand and then return him to the surface.

[silk field]

what is wrong with you

[silk field]

the... wha?

[ebon dock]

he meant the farmer

[fierce oar]

Yep

[ebon dock]

that is what action comic brainrot does to a human being

[silk field]

i do NOT wanna be qi's right hand

the mans a stalker i tell ya

[ebon dock]

I wanna be his left leg

[silk field]

[silk field]

bold of them to assume i'm in any way a hero (the iridium economy is in shambles because of me)

hero? what's that?

all I hear is WEALTH

[ebon dock]

This is what stardew valley does to flashbanging background discord user

(that backGROUND is PISSING me off)

{I am not the ORIGINAL STARWALKER}

[silk field]

damn I don't have :FLASHBANG:

[silk field]

reference

[dense kernel]

anyone know the loot table for the volcano chests

[silk field]

[[Volcano_Dungeon]]

[formal gorge]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Volcano_Dungeon

[dense kernel]

ta

[rigid zinc]

Does anyone know if the 1.6 update is out on switch?

[rigid zinc]

Ohhh ty!

[pliant elbow]

Good morning everyone

Hey hi everybody

[silk field]

morningg

[open geyser]

Let’s get THAT on a Governor command Huh?

[silk field]

governer?

take notes

[torpid zephyr]

That would be nice

[worn rune]

question

buy tons of starfruit seeds or house upgrade?

[torpid zephyr]

Starfruit. Make profit and then you're more comfortable when you get the upgrade

[worn rune]

159 starfruit seeds :D

hell yeah

got a lil plant pot to remind me about starfruit in the greenhouse

[finite horizon]

#1019646506665525441 !

[woven tusk]

See if you can get some Dx Speed Gro for them on Thursday

I count 114 tiles of starfruit planted, so that's... Let's see...

9120G. Or 9200G including the indicator pot

Is that the Iridium Rod? You should be able to handle it with a little bit of fishing, then

[open geyser]

Already tried. All I got was a response from Truffle-boy sayin’ we probs don’t need it.

[ebon dock]

1.6.9 IS REAL

this was planned all along

[willow badge]

woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo 🗣️

wait

'i shall take my leave tho.'

[ebon dock]

The discord brainrot will not allow for it

[willow badge]

💀

aight for real this time homie

[green igloo]

|| do you know the way ||

[topaz quest]

||THE MUFFIN WAY?||

[green igloo]

|| Da way ||

[main wadi]

||shes Married to the Muffin Man||

[green igloo]

|| SHE?!?!?!??!?!||

[topaz quest]

||tell me you never watched shrek without telling me you never watched shrek||

[main wadi]

You'll be an it with that attitude

[green igloo]

|| not married tho ||

[main wadi]

ALSO is that a spanish waterdog

[green igloo]

|| how dare thy ||

[silk field]

What a useless item

[boreal junco]

sigh truly

[hushed hare]

leave it, it looks dope there as a part of the statue

[woven tusk]

But while it's there, you can't use the statue to teleport home

Absolute farmer brainrot, tho

Sees a menacing grim reaper statue
Farmer A: "oh, I could use that scythe to harvest crops and cut grass."
Farmer B: "ugh, so useless when I already have a better one."

[boreal junco]

...how does one define brainrot?

[woven tusk]

____ Brainrot is when you are so deep in ____ context that you stop noticing it's not normal to be like that

[boreal junco]

i see

[woven tusk]

It is decidedly not normal to have opinions on whether it is or is not okay/useful to rob a grim reaper statue

[boreal junco]

even in this context?

on a game server?

[woven tusk]

Absolutely. It's just so farmer brainrotted that the first thing you think when you see a grim reaper statue at the end of a cave infested with undead, is whether the scythe can be useful for harvesting crops

[boreal junco]

ahhh rather than thinkin it looks sick ur mind just autopilots its usage and shit

[woven tusk]

Yes exactly

[boreal junco]

pretty cool..never thought of that

[woven tusk]

Or being spooked or whatnot

[boreal junco]

yeah

[woven tusk]

Farmer brainrot got you too

[boreal junco]

uhh i prob have SC brain rot

my brain be like huhh damn this greenish stuff kinda looks like a jade huh

[woven tusk]

That does indeed sound like brainrot, so you are using the term correctly

[boreal junco]

good to know

[full hull]

You know why dehydrators are actually the best artisan product thing?

Because no one has enough kegs for all of the fall cranberries

[woven tusk]

Is this going to be a pun

Oh. Whatever, then

[cunning cove]

I dont have enough dehydrators for all the fall cranberries either

[full hull]

What would the pun be

[cunning cove]

Also who kegs cranberries

[full hull]

Exactly

[woven tusk]

Dehydrated, dey high-rated

[full hull]

It's year 1 so my 10 dehydrators are enough for the 120 cranberry bushes

[full hull]

Real

[cunning cove]

Idk how I’m gonna make enough dehydrators for my 816 cranberry bushes so I just start planting pumpkins instead

[woven tusk]

One preserves jar can service three tiles of DSG pumpkins
Ohe dehydrator can service twelve to thirteen tiles of cranberries

[full hull]

Time to slap those fire quartz gems on a crystalarium

[crisp tide]

Can we get a spoiler by knowing when console is getting the update?

[full hull]

we can

But will we

[celest ridge]

where can I find void salmon

[full hull]

Witches hut water

[crisp tide]

Witches domain

[neat sail]

In the witches swamp

[[Void_Salmon]]

[formal gorge]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Void_Salmon

[celest ridge]

Okie thanks

[full hull]

I wonder what it tastes like

Not that I can eat regular salmon

Well it doesn't come from the sea so maybe void salmon doesn't count as seafood

[celest ridge]

Hahhaahahahhahahahahaha

[green igloo]

I think it would be a bit bitter

[visual musk]

would taste like nothing

a bit

[green igloo]

OMG DUOLINGO

[full hull]

Do mushroom logs give any foraging xp?

[woven tusk]

Ye, 5 per harvest

[sage ledge]

dude i need more of that then

ive never been stuck on foraging level 9 for this long what is happening

[woven tusk]

Might not be a bad idea if you run out of trees around the valley to clearcut

[sage ledge]

yeah ive chopped them all🥲

do we know if hardwood logs/trees do more than regular trees?

[visual musk]

hardwood stumps?

yes

and hardowod logs

[sage ledge]

trees in general

so i gotta wait for them to grow

ive already done one playthrough on 1.6 and ot did not take me this long wtaf

[woven tusk]

Hardwood stumps are worth 25
I do not know if mahogany trees are worth an unusual amount (normally it's 12 for the tree and 1 for the stump)

I do not remember the amount for hardwood logs (e.g. in the mine with danger mode on)

[sage ledge]

thank you😋

ive got the forest farm so the logs r respawning

not logs stumps

[woven tusk]

Then that plus the secret woods might be enough for some good steady progress

[somber scaffold]

What does "you've got new ideas to sleep on" mean?

[rough bluff]

it means that you'll level up when you go to bed that night. it confused me the first time i saw it lol

[visual musk]

new level

[sage ledge]

hope so ive been stuck on 9 for ages

[green igloo]

Can’t wait for 1.6 on switch so it’s portable

[torpid zephyr]

I can't wait for 1.6 on switch bc I hate keyboard lol

[sage ledge]

i need a new controller to try to connect to steam again

[green igloo]

Can I recommend 8Bitdo because it has switch/ pc capabilities

[tawdry tapir]

dudee i’m dying waiting for it to come out

i pray it comes out soon bc i’m so ready lmao

[green igloo]

I’ve got the ultimate with back buttons so it’s easy to water

[green igloo]

Same

[deep loom]

where do i find the statue of blesssing?

wait nvm

i see the crafting resipe

[somber scaffold]

WOAH

Is it 1.6 for your spouse to give you a stardrop?

[sage ledge]

i need one thatll conect to mac but i think ive found one

i looked at that one and its similar to the one i was looking at i think

[maiden fiber]

It’s been around since before that

Think maybe it was 1.3

Oh wait maybe it was always in the game lmao 💀

Says 1.3 for multiplayer only

[visual musk]

or you can just grind for dust sprites

[maiden fiber]

You could with burglar ring & monster musk

Agreed

[zinc cosmos]

i just got mystery boxes and acid rain on the same day??

[maiden fiber]

SC you could get coal pretty easily with minecarts & bags tho

[zinc cosmos]

💀

at least it watered my plants ig

wtf happened to my trees

everybody is hiding inside and then theres demetrius

who needs a suit when you have the trashcan hat to keep you dry

hes chilling

AND A TRAIN TOO

[maiden fiber]

Oooo nice mod!

Is that Mono’s?

[neat sail]

Looks like it with the way his profile is facing

[zinc cosmos]

yup!

got it from a tiktok after i couldnt get burgers' to work afrt my hiatus

this one is pretty nice

[maiden fiber]

Soooo cute

Mono’s is my favorite

I just haven’t been able to play

[dense kernel]

[maiden fiber]

[somber scaffold]

What's up with the "only a master of the five ways may enter" door?

[neat sail]

It's the mastery room! Get lvl10 in all 5 skills and you'll see 👀

[woven tusk]

Leah is standing out in the open wondering where all the plants came from.

She proooobably wouldn't last very long in a horror movie

[hushed pebble]

When is 1.6 coming on switch

[rich lake]

No release date yet

[rich heron]

wtf is acid rain is that different from green rain ?

[finite obsidian]

maybe

oh

[worn rune]

WE ARE WINNING FELLAS

you can only win one a day?

[tacit rune]

fellas, what maestry paths do ya'll take first?

[tacit rune]

WHOHOOOOO GAMBLING!!!! 🔥🔥

[worn rune]

id say Farming mastery

for the buff, iridium scythe and golden animal crackers

[elfin finch]

Is mobile worth trying or not due update situation?

Especially given we don't have a firm date for 1.6 on mobile I'm somewhat hesitant

[worn rune]

not yet atleast, bcuz no update

[elfin finch]

The other thing is wiki being up to date and mobile.. Not being.

[worn rune]

because 1.6 has been out for pc for a while now

[sacred river]

Wdym update situation

[elfin finch]

The major updates being delayed due to company requirements

[lone ibex]

How does the monster compendium compare to the burglar's ring?

[maiden fiber]

[[Bookseller]] @tall inlet

[formal gorge]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Bookseller

[maiden fiber]

fuck wrong @ lol

[rich lake]

It happens

[hazy marten]

was the hammer spam thing removed in the update?

[rich lake]

Nope

[hazy marten]

thank goodness

wasn't sure if it'd still be worth to buy the galaxy hammer

[sacred river]

Monster compendium doubles the drops of the loot the monster was supposed to drop

Burglar's ring adds another chance for an item to drop

Basically, the book doubles the loot
The ring doubles the chance

[lone ibex]

Ah, okay. Thanks

[tall inlet]

thanks

[chilly bloom]

Also burglar ring doesn’t reroll the chance for every item

[ashen slate]

Anyone here try using smoked fish as an Artisan Good entry in the Grange Display? Nothing is listed on the wiki yet, but thought (hoped) maybe it just hadn't been gotten to yet. Just curious.

[rose breach]

I did. I had a smoked clam and I think a smoked muscle

[ashen slate]

Did it affect your score in any noticeable way?

[rose breach]

I don't know. I had all iridium items. But they weren't that special. I think it was around 112? Give me a hot second. They're all in the lost and found. I can tell you exactly what I had

[ashen slate]

no rush

I've been selling off all my smoked fish, then noticed they were tagged Artisan, and it just got me thinking maybe I ought to hang on to a couple.

[hazy marten]

what would one suggest for mastery after farming and foraging? i've been thinking combat but idk

[ashen slate]

maybe mining, I would think

combat would kinda naturally follow behind it

Unless you rely on fishing as a main source of income

It really all just depends on how your play

[hazy marten]

makes sense

mining it is then

[ashen slate]

I haven't gotten to that point in my playthrough yet, so I don't really know what else to say that might help

[limpid terrace]

I need some quick assistance.

[hazy marten]

i don't even have materials for the forge so it's probably best to ignore it

[limpid terrace]

I'm trying to make an updated "which is better to shove fruit into" chart for the dehydrator but I don't know if all fruits can go in.

Can someone tell me if cactus, qi, and rhubarb can go in?

[ashen slate]

I haven't gotten that yet, either, was just looking at it in the last day of my save, thinking I need you next, but I didn't have the cash yet

[rose breach]

I had ||golden egg||(8), smoked clam(?), mussel (7), pumpkin(8), void mayo(??), peach(8), coconut(8), sea urchin(?)

[ashen slate]

right on, so it was a positive addition, sweet, I'll keep a couple back in the chests then, thanks, Insomnia

[grave stratus]

does the grass grown during green rain disappear the next day?

[rose breach]

It's not adding up for me lmao but I did win first place. Tho it could be that egg... I'll have to try later!

[ashen slate]

If you don't mind, if I get to the thing before you do, I'll post my results and @ you.

[rose breach]

Oh! There's a helper. It doesn't have the smoked stuff. But has the rest.

[ashen slate]

yeah, the wiki guide was what I was talking about, but alas, there's no smoked artisan goods, which was why I was curious if it's not not been gotten to yet, or if they aren't counted, which doesn't seem right, imo.

[ashen slate]

Do you mean the grass? or the weeds? Grass stays as far as I've noticed, I can't answer regarding the weeds though, because I'm modded, and I managed to destroy every weed on the map in one day, lol

[rose breach]

Dunno.. I'm pretty sure I put the clam and muscle in smoked, but in the lost and found they... un smoked?... it could be that they don't have a id. And they're just treated like their base product.

[ashen slate]

possible

[grave stratus]

grass! ive been kinda running low cause i habe too many animals but my farm is like 50% grass now and i read somewhere that some plants or something disappeared and i was wondering if that included the grass

[ashen slate]

nope, you're good, I think, grass will stay

[grave stratus]

ok, thanks!

[ashen slate]

np 🙂

[rose breach]

Going through the calculator, that seems to be the case that smoked items are treated like their base counterpart

[lone ibex]

Whoops, this was meant for the modded channel, sorry

[grave stratus]

omg... u guys.... junimo catalogue... someone give me a reason not to buy it before i spend my money on this....

[hazy marten]

if you buy it you won't be able to buy 400 void eggs from krobus

[grave stratus]

i bought it 🤡

[mellow atlas]

How do you get the ducks to swim in the pond?

[nimble turtle]

they do it automatically i think

[ashen slate]

They do it on their own, sometimes it takes them a while

If you like decorating as much as I do, getting the catalog was the choice, imo

[mellow atlas]

They haven't yet, but maybe they haven't discovered the pond yet? It's not far from the coop either. Hmmm

[ashen slate]

I had a coop that was like 5 tiles away from water, and they almost never swam in it

[tacit rune]

is there a mod that makes abigail stay the hell away from my man?

[ashen slate]

but they did eventually

[tacit rune]

IKR, THEY NEVER SWIM WHEN I WANT A CUTE SC

speakng of water, do ya'll also hate when you try to grab smth and water just snatches it?

I once lost a bait maker because of that :(

[ashen slate]

with a passion

[tacit rune]

I mean its cool and "realistic", but not pleasant at all

imagine if someone had a statue of perfection near a river in riverland farm

and that occurs

[ashen slate]

I lost a chest, empty, ofc, but still I wasn't rich in the wood department, and it hurt my feelings

[vocal spade]

is the update out on console

[bronze jetty]

Nope.

[lone ibex]

I nearly died to boxers

Whoever it was who told me to put a staircase ||in Lewis' bedroom,|| I'll never forgive you

[hazy marten]

i mean

boxers tend to pack a punch

[green igloo]

Oh bc i have one that is a 3.4G connection

[wicked frigate]

this is new: I got a message "I must not cut down trees in town." when i tried to chop down some of the trees around the saloon

[hazy marten]

i don't know if you still need help on this, but i just tried cactus fruit and it worked.

[limpid terrace]

That does help thank you

But weird

[hazy marten]

i'll let you know the price once it's done if you need it

[limpid terrace]

Oh no I have the price

I just had no idea if the nonsensical would work.

[hazy marten]

ah yeah

[limpid terrace]

Thanks to you I can officially say so long as it is classified as a fruit it takes it no matter how stupid the idea is.

[hazy marten]

np

[limpid terrace]

Thanks a bunch.

[hazy marten]

you got the qi and rhubarb?

[limpid terrace]

Yeah they work.

It's dumb

[hazy marten]

wow, did not expect qi to work

i thought there were a bunch of weird rules around it

[soft wasp]

Yeah the trees in the town are now actual trees, but you can't chop them down

But you can harvest moss from them

[nimble turtle]

qi fruit got changed

havent had the quest yet but i cant wait to see what its like now

[woven tusk]

Changed how? The only difference I know of, is that they can now become giant crops

[half prairie]

They cant be giant in 1.5?

[hushed hare]

you can't be there...

never mind, you rest up Champ!

[crude talon]

eeee hello blue melon

[topaz quest]

Why is the cauliflower there

[neat forge]

it's chillin

let it cool

[topaz quest]

Duh

It's winter

[mellow atlas]

As someone who’s never played Joja and plans never to, this analysis delights me in showing that ConcernedApe knows what he’s doing how he set up that route: Joja’s supposed benefits are smoke and mirrors.

[woven tusk]

Giant crops persist through season changes

[topaz quest]

Yeah but Where's pumpkin and melon

[crude talon]

They deicied to not appear .....

[topaz quest]

Damn

Your birthday party wasn't good enough for the popular girls

[crude talon]

The melon waited till the end of winter to appear (I got 2 but I'm just keeping this one )

Pfft

[midnight knoll]

I wish butterfly powder worked on NPCs

Id use it on shane and haley

[topaz quest]

._.

[chrome karma]

guys what happens when i beat junimo ride?

[open geyser]

An enormous sense’a accomplishment for doin’ what many fail to ‘round here.

‘Nd a JK Machine ya can place anywhere on ya farm.

[midnight knoll]

Yeehaw

[open geyser]

Who ya poked recently?

[midnight knoll]

You

[chrome karma]

so i died alot of times for nothing huh

[floral stone]

hey everyone i am looking to play stardew valley and it will be good to team up with someone ti just chill. Have a laugh i am 38 so adults only please and it would be great to make friends on here too.

[chrome karma]

bud

listen thats the spoiler chat

go to multiplayer-lfg

[floral stone]

Oh sorry 😂

[silk field]

Yeah... uh...

[chrome karma]

PLEASE HELP ME IV BEEN STUCK IN THERE FOR BILLIONS OF YEARS

[midnight knoll]

Why

[chrome karma]

i dunno my crazy gurl put me and made me stuck in there for being with her twin brother

BRO THERE WAS A WEIRD BLACK BIRD IN THE NIGHT I COULDNT TAKE A PIC WAS TOO SLOW

WTH WAS THAT

[midnight knoll]

An owl

[chrome karma]

NUH UH it was black 💀

had three red eyes

[midnight knoll]

Cause its a silhouette

[midnight knoll]

That’s literally not a thing

[chrome karma]

it must beenthat bear im drunk

Can i go through this place?

cuz i wanna go to this place

[mental anvil]

Semi-weekly check in.... any 1.6 console news?

[chrome karma]

wut

guys how do i get there

uhhh

[ashen slate]

That's the Calico Desert, you get there by finishing the Vault in the Community Center. It repairs the bus.

[chrome karma]

how do i repair the vault?

[ashen slate]

have you looked inside the Community Center?

[chrome karma]

ye and finished the rat problem a long time ago

[ashen slate]

have you finished all the bundles?

for all the rooms?

[chrome karma]

uh

these?

[ashen slate]

yes

there's one called The Vault

[chrome karma]

doesnt let me place

[cunning cove]

Odd
It should

[torpid zephyr]

Pls don't make it a running thing. You can check #bulletin-board where they'll post updates, or go to Concerned Ape's twitter directly

[topaz quest]

They are looking from inventory

[torpid zephyr]

You need to be in the actual building

[ashen slate]

you have to actually go into the building to place the items

[cunning cove]

Oh

[ashen slate]

(I don't have enough caffeine in my bloodstream)

[worn rune]

my nitro ran out :(
cries and explodes

[chrome karma]

Aw man

I BE MAKIN BREAD COEMS 🤑

[woven tusk]

Looks like someone already told you, but the in-game hint was over here

[chrome karma]

get yo money up not yo funny up

excuse me what in the actual f-

[torpid zephyr]

That's a junimo

[chrome karma]

DONT TELL ME I HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING SO I CAN GO TO CALICO DESSERT

[torpid zephyr]

You need 42,500g to go to the desert. You donate to the vault bundle

[chrome karma]

where is the vault bundle

?

[ashen slate]

yes, it'll become active after you complete so many bundles

[torpid zephyr]

Yeah that one. You need to finish some bundles in other rooms and it'll unlock

[chrome karma]

FU-

[ashen slate]

it's going to take a little while, get comfy

[chrome karma]

man im just tired from farming AND NOW I HAVE TO TAKE MY@ UP AND DOWN JUST FOR DIS?

[torpid zephyr]

Oh no, you have to play the game as intended. How awful /s

[mental anvil]

@torpid zephyr don't ask questions? Gotcha chief. ✌️

[chrome karma]

....

[torpid zephyr]

Not what I said, chief. I said please don't make it a running thing. No one wants that question semi-weekly. We'll all be very obviously told when the update drops

[ashen slate]

That's gonna open up later in the game

[chrome karma]

I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS

[woven tusk]

That's not my screenshot. It's also a brand new game with the starting 500G on day 1.

[torpid zephyr]

Now that you have to finish the community centre for

[chrome karma]

KILLME

[topaz quest]

I don't feel like it

[worn rune]

(not my image) but like what is that skull thing to the side? i cant find any info on it in the wiki

[sour tartan]

Community Center and Grandpa's Evaluation veteran here

I completed Community Center Year 2 Winter 28
My grandpa came to my dream that night and I didn't have a chance to have the ceremony yet
As a result I had 3 candles
REALLY BLIND GRANDPA ehem
And I had to call grandpa's ghost self back with a DIAMOND

[torpid zephyr]

It toggles the dangerous mines on and off for skull caverns

After a quest from Mr qi

[worn rune]

ah got it, Mr Qi thing

[rough bluff]

unless you have the game modded to allow you to place items while outside of the Community Center, it won't let you place. to me it looks like you're outside of the CC in this picture. that could be the issue but i'm not 100% sure

[topaz quest]

Yes we already mentioned that almost 2 hours ago

[silk field]

Damn. Can't believe Marlon buys a Galaxy Sword for 650g but sells it for 50,000g

Oh, that isn't even the worst of it

Galaxy Hammer costs 75,000g but you sell it for only 600g??

[silk field]

Is he talking about the Mastery cave? Because I have news for him...

[sudden sparrow]

waiting for choso

[craggy void]

Got a question about the 1.6 update

Can you still duplicate in multiplayer?

[silk field]

Yeah

Netcode is hard

[craggy void]

Whats netcode?

Me and my brother play but he'll quit if thay got rid of the exploit lol

[silk field]

uh... would he really quit?

Having infinite prismatic shards etc. sounds like a surefire way to instantly get bored of the game

[patent bane]

Added in 1.6 - it converts SC to dangerous if you’ve done the Qi quest! Basically the SC version of the shrine at the bottom of the mines

oh someone already answered, whoops lol

[worn rune]

ah i see

ty

[silk field]

This seems extremely useful for frequent SC divers like myself

[patent bane]

it is! nice for farming radioactive ore

[silk field]

Also I discovered something interesting about the Blessing of Fangs

It increases critical chance for things that normally have a 0% critical chance (e.g. club bonk, slingshot, tools)

Also it applies before Scout multiplies it by 1.5, so it's actually more like a 15% crit buff

[chrome karma]

GUYS 💀 WHY DONT I HAVE A SUIT TO?

[torpid zephyr]

That's normal dw

[chrome karma]

at least i have emily

[neat mulch]

cuz ur poor /j

[chrome karma]

OK HERE BUCKO

[neat mulch]

LMFAO

[chrome karma]

CALL THAT POOR

[neat mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/winnie-the-pooh-i-cannot-read-gif-10549564367608169258

Darn

[chrome karma]

LOOK AT SHOES

HAT

CAT

CHESTS

[silk field]

poor

[neat mulch]

Sorry am blind

[chrome karma]

well i bet you dont have 100 gold bars

[neat mulch]

Well...... 😭

[silk field]

uhh well

[neat mulch]

Yeahhh, I had to start selling my bars cuz they were taking up too much room 😭

[chrome karma]

SEE THESE CHEST

DO YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I DIED?

[neat mulch]

LMFAO

[silk field]

this isn't even nearly half of it, I have over a thousand bars in my chest and i sold most of the rest to clint

[chrome karma]

JUST TO GET ALL OF THIS

[neat mulch]

😭

But it was worth it, right

[silk field]

also shouldn't you ||read that book||?

[chrome karma]

man downloads wemod it will be worth it

MUEEEHHEHEHE

[silk field]

[chrome karma]

jk i aint no cheater

[neat mulch]

I am !!!!!!

[silk field]

i didn't just spawn those bars in ya know

i mined em all with my bare hands

[neat mulch]

I cheat on fish cuz this is like my 7th save 💀

And I can't be bothered going through all the pain and suffering from my 1st one

[chrome karma]

ahem

[silk field]

huh

[chrome karma]

nothing nothing

[silk field]

[neat mulch]

Screenshotted, thanks for your credit card # /j

[silk field]

[chrome karma]

WHAT NO

[neat mulch]

[silk field]

now time to steal all your money /j

[chrome karma]

i dont have money

[silk field]

i can confirm that

[chrome karma]

i spent it all on dis

https://store.duolingo.com/products/duo-the-owl-mask

[neat mulch]

LOL

Duolingo my beloved

This is the mod for you
https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/22579?tab=posts

[chrome karma]

nah bro my internet be tweakin up my ass

[neat mulch]

The hotspot internet

[limpid terrace]

I have a big announcement! I have finally done the math of value vs time spent for each fruit in the game in all three processors.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cBSGKdfMvxDvJy-E1MmM341DS5p--_IKmCQH-0ymcwE/edit?usp=sharing

If I'm wrong in any regard please let me down gently I lost a night of sleep to this

Also 1.6 spoilers, obvs.

[torpid zephyr]

Well, this is the 1.6 spoiler channel. Does what it says on the label

[limpid terrace]

Right, hence why I posted it here and not #stardew-spoilers

But I hope I can now be considered as a guy who added something to the knowledge of this game.

This might change the meta honestly.

Probably not

But hey, my information might end up in a yt vid lol

[full merlin]

If I make a mini forge, can my friend who hasn't hit Mastery yet use the forge or would they have to hit combat mastery

[neat mulch]

I haven't played multiplayer myself (no friends ), but I wanna say yes (?), they should be able to since I've spawned in a mini-forge before in one of my saves via CJB & was able to use it without achieving mastery

[full merlin]

okie dokie. was curious bc they cant use my mastery farming statue

ill have 2 make one anyways for perfection

[neat mulch]

One way to find out !

[left rose]

DUOLINGO MENTIONED

[neat mulch]

LOL

You cannot escape

[solar gorge]

What's the best way to get moss?>

[neat mulch]

During Green Rain day probably 🫠

[edgy nest]

Green day, trees in general

[solar gorge]

I got the blessing of the butterfly but can't find the damn butterfly

[hushed hare]

it goes away after 5pm, hope you find it soon

[solar gorge]

Found it

[worn rune]

i might be stupid cuz i genuinely forgot to go to the halloween event in fall of year 1

my free gold pumpkin :(

[hushed hare]

big oof

missed out on free bonus friendship and a golden pumpkin

also, new festival layout

not so much as "new layout" but a new maze feature

[spiral cargo]

Free friendship?

[hushed hare]

isn't there a bonus when talking to NPCs during festivals?

[spiral cargo]

Just regular friendship gain from talking

Nothing all too special, I thought you meant like getting +1 hearts with everyone or something

[hushed hare]

yeah, I thought the regular daily talking bonus is boosted by a smudge

[spiral cargo]

Don't think so

Would be nice though

[hushed hare]

maybe it stacks with normal talking, so +20 x 2 ?

[neat sail]

It says the same as a non-festival day though so I'd assume it doesn't stack

[chrome karma]

.....

SHE WAS GONNA KISS ME

[limpid terrace]

Dude wants to bee seen as cool not cute.

Funny thing is that scene plays even without being in a relationship.

So it's a total misunderstanding.

[chrome karma]

XDDD IMA BOUTA END THIS GUY WHOLE CAREREER

[limpid terrace]

Did you mean to send the same image 5 times?

[neat mulch]

Probably poor internet connection 😅

[limpid terrace]

Also you really seem to not like... anyone.

[chrome karma]

YE

i have poor connection

[neat sail]

That is not an okay comment to make.

[chrome karma]

now how do i marry emily

[torpid zephyr]

You need a mermaid pendant from the guy on the beach when it rains

[chrome karma]

uhhh

it just rained yesterday in stardew

is thunder storm good enough?

[torpid zephyr]

Yeah he should be there then too

[chrome karma]

uhhhh

[torpid zephyr]

Go further to the right

Over the mini bridge

He'll be at the top

[chrome karma]

i need to fix it?

[torpid zephyr]

Yes

[elfin finch]

Is there a way to access the Community Center on the day of the Egg Festival?

Or am I out of luck?

[warped panther]

you can run to it after the festival ends

[torpid zephyr]

Out of luck. You can go afterwards though

[elfin finch]

Hmmm.. afterwards wouldn't give me enough time for my plan, I don't think. Thanks.

The idea is complete spring crops to get Speed-Gro for strawberries

[torpid zephyr]

If you have coffee or a horse (or both) you might be able to make it

[elfin finch]

This is a new Spring Y1 game

[torpid zephyr]

Ah

[chrome karma]

what 😦

[torpid zephyr]

You could always just go but pass out?

[torpid zephyr]

You don't have enough hearts

[elfin finch]

I wonder if I can get to CC and back then plant before 2am

[elfin finch]

You need 10 hearts

[chrome karma]

whara you mean

[worn rune]

10 hearts and first house upgrade

[chrome karma]

idk what else to give her

im out of wood dang it

[torpid zephyr]

[[Emily]]

[formal gorge]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Emily

[worn rune]

get one more heart with her and then upgrade house if you havent

[elfin finch]

Nice, got 10 eggs in the Y1 egg hunt 🙂

[dense kernel]

eggsilent

[chrome karma]

....

[chrome karma]

https://tenor.com/view/sofunnyman-unfunny-notfunny-gif-19861288

[dense kernel]

what bad yoke?

[elfin finch]

Nice, got the strawberries with speed-gro done at 12 am

[midnight knoll]

Yes, egghead

[dense kernel]

I thought it was cracking

[midnight knoll]

I should probably stop

[dense kernel]

same

[worn rune]

okay so

leveled up to lvl 10 foraging

Botanist or Tracker?

[tired prairie]

Botanist

Your truffles will always be iridium quality

[woven tusk]

And most other forage will pack neatly into fewer inventory spaces since it will all be matching quality

[worn rune]

DINO EGG

YESSS

[visual musk]

w

now incubate it

and what happened ot the corner tiles in the river

[hard fern]

do dinos actually do anything besides from looking cool?

woah wth are those tools

[visual musk]

give dino eggs

[worn rune]

weird bug with the mod

[sage ledge]

love how all my legendary fish are gold star except the angler, which has no quality at all

[hard fern]

what do dino eggs do 😦

and dont say hathc dinos

[visual musk]

donate to museum

turn into dino mayo

sell

[hard fern]

dino mayo?!?😭

22 more walnuts until walnut door opening

is there any way to get the banaan fruit but not the banana tree?

[spiral cargo]

Don't believe so

[visual musk]

a blue discus fish pond

5-15% chance after it reaches a population of 4

[hard fern]

o

wait i realize this is the new update spoilers channel😭

I thought I was in seasoned farmers

[hard fern]

👍

[humble meteor]

Not sure if it's the right channel but ||have you seen the "new" cut content in the game files ? There is a post on reddit talking about it||

[woven tusk]

The waterfall farm?

[chilly bloom]

There’s other stuff too

Quite a bit at that

[woven tusk]

I went to the reddit and couldn't find it. Welp

[worn rune]

how do i get lots of fiber?

and moss

[sacred river]

Green rain for both

[dense kernel]

farm floor 81 of mine and tree farm for moss

[cunning cove]

Green rain

2 years and you’ll have 800+ moss and 3 stacks of fiber trust

[worn rune]

i just had green rain

fuck

i did also set up a tree farm

[dense kernel]

well fiber can be farmed in floor 81 or the sewers

[elfin finch]

Are there any "best" floors for duggies?

I have a bounty and I'm not finding any.

[dense kernel]

floor like 5 to 20 id say

[elfin finch]

Wiki says 6-29, not sure if more common on certain levels.

Thanks.

[dense kernel]

I'd just run through those over and over

[stiff fulcrum]

there's a floor in that 6-29 range that has a lot of dirt in a circle or donut shape that usually has 3-7 duggies, repeat that floor a lot

[elfin finch]

Thanks. Just went to 11 and got em

[visual musk]

coincidentally

the last 3 people i need for perfection is

fall 5-15

10 days

their birthdays

[elfin finch]

For the quality fish remixed bundle, does it have to be gold or does iridium also work?

[chilly bloom]

Iridium works

Just has to be at or higher than the listed quality

[elfin finch]

Thanks, was curious.

[visual musk]

got perfection

finally

[elfin finch]

Congrats!

[chilly bloom]

Nice

[worn rune]

yummy money

[vocal plume]

y u selling straight up eggs?

[chilly bloom]

Why not, it’s only a couple thousand g worth of them anyway

[rose totem]

I love it when you make so much money it goes over

[dull wagon]

Is the 1.6 update on console yet?

[chilly bloom]

No

[visual musk]

bope

nioe

nope

[umbral dagger]

no it's not on android, it's not on switch

[visual musk]

only pc

[umbral dagger]

i just drank some yummy mayo in front of my wife abigail and she just responded with "umm"

[neat mulch]

Gg ur getting the divorce letter tomorrow

[umbral dagger]

she probabably is sad i didn't offer her any

if any of you are married and have a mayo machine go drink some deliciuous mayo in front of your spouse

[maiden fiber]

Did she really? Lmao

Like it was an automatic dialogue window? 😭

[limpid terrace]

So to go back to what I was saying.

I meant I was comparing the value of each crop in each machine given g/d including growth time.

If we only ever cared about the value of the product or the value of the calculation per fruit, not only would we start having to deal with infinity but also the idea that there's strictly either no reason to make dried fruit or no reason to NOT make dried fruit.

[chilly bloom]

Quite impractical set but sure

[limpid terrace]

The only way to get a fair comparison is to incorporate the time spent not only being made but also being grown as to handle the velocity issue.

[chilly bloom]

What about regrowing crops then

[woven tusk]

I suppose both cases can happen within the same playthrough, since nobody's farm situation is completely static from Year1 to YearXX

[limpid terrace]

I accunted for days regrown as well.

[chilly bloom]

Are you calculating by average growth time season over their total growth period on the mainland

For example ancient fruit producing x amount of times over y amount of days

[limpid terrace]

Total growth on mainland with the exception of cactus because it's a special case.

[chilly bloom]

So you’re taking no value in the metrics of time, effort, the fact that machines can work as crops grow, etc.

Just making sure before we go on

[limpid terrace]

If I had just done value per day, Apples would always be a net loss, for example.

Bingo.

[woven tusk]

I think, but am not certain, that the idea is to measure the soil tile and the machine tile productivity... together, somehow

[limpid terrace]

Wait I thought you said I am taking the value of those.

My bad

[chilly bloom]

Yeah and that never works well

[woven tusk]

Which is gonna get weird if their schedules don't line up well

[chilly bloom]

You always get super misleading results like the stupid profitability calculator lmao

[limpid terrace]

We do that and I have to take another night not sleeping if not two.

[woven tusk]

Yeah, it won't be pretty.

[limpid terrace]

I am not calculating per area.

I am simply calculating assuming one plant and one machine.

[woven tusk]

Yeesh, that pretty much instantly kills the Dehydrator

[chilly bloom]

Yep

[limpid terrace]

Because if I don't there's an infinite number of variables that would hurt my brain.

[limpid terrace]

See it would. And that was the original issue.

[chilly bloom]

As well as making kegs too powerful when anything take more than their process time to grow

[limpid terrace]

But then there was a little revelation.

[chilly bloom]

Honestly the ideal would be calculating for a set amount of units that’s practical and upkeeps production

[woven tusk]

The Dehydrator excels for the most probable situation for when it comes into play:
A player who has too many berries and not enough jars or kegs for them.

[chilly bloom]

Even then…

[limpid terrace]

Because of the time taken per harvest, dehydrators can make more profit per day on some crops.

Most notably tree fruit.

[woven tusk]

The Dehydrator is the highest gold per day when the crop supply is not the bottleneck

[limpid terrace]

Right. Hence why I said that it was otherwise useless.

[woven tusk]

As the player's farm situation proceeds, they get more kegs and can shift away from dehydrators. It's a really good stepping stone

[maiden fiber]

Oh my god I meant to do a point up finger react not the middle finger 😭💀

Sorry Giga LMAO

[cunning cove]

I got warned in another server cuz I accidentally used that too

😭

[maiden fiber]

LMAO

[limpid terrace]

See, when it comes to tree fruit, the value is greater due to the regrowth time.

[cunning cove]

Anaira just said
“Giga, fuck that statement from you specifically”

[maiden fiber]

Ultimate disagree 😭

[chilly bloom]

I mean that’s always going to be true when you implement weird limitations

[limpid terrace]

By shoving 5 fruit into the machine at once, it basically only takes 1/5th of a day per fruit to add the formula to it.

[chilly bloom]

1 crop and 1 machine massively favours some stuff and has basically no basis for equality between different crops

[limpid terrace]

Right but think: when it comes to long-term profit, if I had an infinite supply of ancient fruit and an infinite supply of any machine I wanted, what would make me the most money?

[cunning cove]

Time to make 20 dehydrators and shove all my gold ancient fruit, spare starfruit and berries into them

[chilly bloom]

Again, have to make an assumption of time

Could change based on that

[limpid terrace]

Yeah you don't the answer is always the dehydrator because it's processing the most fruits.

[cunning cove]

Oh people
Do dehydrator take 1 day for everything that can be put in it?

[limpid terrace]

Literally works overnight. Not even kidding, putting it in at 6am and 2am have the same outcome.

See if we don't take into account the time spent growing and regrowing then it's a no-contest stomp.

[cunning cove]

Weird
Usually there are hours on the machines
CA just doesn’t wanna deal with it anymore 😔

[limpid terrace]

The main reason I did it like that is to also account for fruits that produce more than one per harvest.

[maiden fiber]

LOL I never realized that

I love that tho

[woven tusk]

This is the case for quite a significant fraction of the player's development, since Oak Resin is time-gated

[limpid terrace]

Blueberries are never one fruit per harvest.

[cunning cove]

Ofc not
Isn’t that why it’s so good for Y1 summer profit since newer players can’t get to desert yet?

[woven tusk]

3 per 4 days, yes. It's highly probable that blueberries will even be the first thing to be dehydrated in a normal playthrough

And then jar the melons

And jar the one starfruit seed from the museum

[cunning cove]

Usually we just advise people to sell the berries raw cuz there’s no way to process them all but they can now with the dehydrator eating up 5 every time

[woven tusk]

5 per day, so a dehydrator can even handle multiple berry bushes

[cunning cove]

My dumbass tried processing berry in jars my first playthrough and end up with 5 stack surplus of berries when I finally get the kegs going

[limpid terrace]

right but we're also focusing on late-game production. The thing that has to be taken into account is the fact players are generally speaking not going to have an infinite supply of everything. Moreover if they want the max profit from anything it's a waste of time to grow anything but Starfruit since it provides the highest value good in the game. But if we tookonly the raw value of an item and never accounted for time spent growing, time spent producing, or other factors, why are casks not the godsend of all of stardew?

Because the value they provide per day isn't worth it.

[chilly bloom]

It’s primarily because they’re area gated

Not just because they have poor g per day

[limpid terrace]

If we only EVER looked at values of items and the multipliers, then there's no point in making a dehydrator even early game.

[cunning cove]

Say, if you can theoretically cask all the wine you make
Would it be worth casking?

[limpid terrace]

Unless you just have too many mushrooms I guess.

[cunning cove]

I’d say an average late game farm produce 600+ bottles of wine every 7 days
If you can have as many casks as the number of wine produced
I think the 2 season wait would be worth it

[limpid terrace]

I didn't go insomnia mode for someone to tell me every second I spent making that chart was a waste of time. There's a point to that chart being made and it's to prove it's not a worthless machine "only made for those with limited space or early in the game and not having enough kegs or jars."

Tree fruit are the best when dehydrated, first and foremost. They are not that good when preserved or when fermented. It is a g/d loss compared to selling them raw.

[chilly bloom]

Oh absolutely, casks are decently cheap and require basically no upkeep, it’s basically just like kegging again but taking a long period of time

[cunning cove]

People might even find the long period of wait time quite tempting cuz it’s easy money for basically refilling every 2 seasons

[chilly bloom]

Only because of your hyper specific set of parameters

[limpid terrace]

Not even and I'm getting real tired of you saying that.

THE WIKI AGREES WITH ME ON THIS.

[chilly bloom]

You’re setting it up in a way that processing loses money and you’re saying that isn’t specific

Of course limiting your calculations to one crop and one machine is utterly debilitating for some stuff

[cunning cove]

What the
The wiki does meta crafting now..?

[maiden fiber]

Wdym?

[cunning cove]

Like it tells you what’s the most profitable and all that?

[chilly bloom]

Calculating g per day using growth time and process time while not accounting for any overlap is just dumb

[limpid terrace]

I did account for overlap.

You assumed I didn't.

[chilly bloom]

Then how do you get less g per day from processing tree fruit than selling entirely raw

[chilly bloom]

And value calculations on the wiki are notoriously misleading, there is a reason that people tell players to ignore those and just do the applicable calculations for yourself for the situation you yourself are in

[limpid terrace]

I can't articulate it.

I have the chart you can look at it and tell me how stupid I am for trying.

I linked it earlier.

[chilly bloom]

could you link it again, sorry I missed it

[limpid terrace]

Probably should just delete the damn post too since it's "the wrong way to look at profit" and nobody should ever use the dehydrator unless they are in like fall of year one or picked the mushroom cave or something.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cBSGKdfMvxDvJy-E1MmM341DS5p--_IKmCQH-0ymcwE/edit?gid=743523482#gid=743523482

Here.

[chilly bloom]

I never said it was the wrong way, I said it was a very specific way that probably wasn't very applicable in a practical setting

That doesn't mean your math is wrong at all

[limpid terrace]

I just wanted to feel like I did something for the community and it seems like I wasted my time.

The most I contributed was telling the wiki staff the g/d of powdermelons was wrong.

[chilly bloom]

I wouldn't say you wasted your time, I would still post it on the guide section of the stardew forums, you just really need to give some of the context we discussed

everybody and their uncle calculates ideal profit differently and that's a pain but it's also nice to have a different perspective, I enjoyed talking with you regardless if my messages didn't allude to that

[limpid terrace]

I don't know how to do any of that math. There's an infinite number of variables and I can't account for every possible outcome.

[chilly bloom]

yeah that's why I said above that I reccomend to players that they do their own specific math

you can come up with half a dozen different ways to calculate pumpkins vs cranberries

[limpid terrace]

My brain broke seeing ancient fruit value per month in a jar significantly higher than that in a keg and still being told to use the keg so I had to do something.

[chilly bloom]

it's also why the stardew profit calculator is almost universally disliked between players with any experience, it offers too much of a single faceted perspective

[limpid terrace]

Ironically enough we aren't talking pumpkins

That's a veggie according to the game.

[chilly bloom]

It's just an example lol, it's one of the most popular conversations here

[limpid terrace]

I don't see why, cranberries are just generally better unless you get lucky with a giant pumpkin. You get more harvests for less seeds.

I still think it's more valuable for fruit trees in dehydrators because of a similar reason.

[chilly bloom]

Pumpkins are more profitable if you’re using any type of quality fertilizer or dsg

[limpid terrace]

Dsg?

[cunning cove]

Deluxe speed gro

[chilly bloom]

Deluxe speed gro

[limpid terrace]

Ah.

God something's wrong with discord for me today stg

[chilly bloom]

I thought it was just me

Discord is being complete shit for me rn

[cunning cove]

No same

It keeps not letting me send messages and update message log late

[maiden fiber]

Servers getting fucked right now

[limpid terrace]

Actually I think I know how to get that g/d calculation done. I just was so caught up in my excel sheet I forgot I can just use the value of the items.

[maiden fiber]

Same

Holy shit

DISCORD PLS MY XP

[limpid terrace]

The goal is to make more than 100g/d because that's the g/d of an apple.

Apple wine = 420g/8d = 52
Apple jelly = 350g/4d = 87
Dried apples = 217/2d = 108.5

That's easy enough math we can agree on right?

[maiden fiber]

I’m confused why u added an extra day

[limpid terrace]

Same reason you add an extra day when planting a crop.

[chilly bloom]

but then why aren't you calculating the other apples being produced in the meantime?

[maiden fiber]

Huh?

[chilly bloom]

in 8 days, the apple tree will produce 800g worth of apples, the apple tree and a keg will produce 700g + 420g

that's the crux of the argument

and the reason so many get weird results with casks too

[limpid terrace]

I quit.

I'm terrible at math my time was wasted and I wasted everyone's time too

[chilly bloom]

I'm not trying to be rude, it's a very common mistake

it's the reason people say casking to silver is better than gold or iridium

because they don't account for the plain wine being sold in the background

sure aging 8 silver wine is better than aging 2 iridium wine, but the comparison is 8 regular + 8 silver vs 14 regular + 2 iridium

which is the exact same

[limpid terrace]

Right and you're probably right I just don't care anymore it's clear I'm in way over my head and should have never tried this and moreover I should probably never talk about it again as I'm making another scene.

[chilly bloom]

no need to think like that tbh

[limpid terrace]

Dehydrator bad all hail kegs

[chilly bloom]

hell nah

I'm dehydrator all the way, doesn't have to be for the reasons you said though

there are quite a few different aspects of balancing

[limpid terrace]

Who cares it's all about profit that's why when asked what fruit I should plant on gi that was easy to buy and regrowable it took 45 minutes to get an answer that wasn't starfruit pineapples or ancient fruit

[chilly bloom]

sorry to hear

[limpid terrace]

You can't make profit with the dehydrator it's a waste of resources because you can get 5 apple wine in 12 days or one bag of apples in 6 days

[rose totem]

only fruit I put in the dehydrator is grapes, yay raisins

[chilly bloom]

well that's unfair, you're comparing 1 dehydrator to 35 kegs

and one of those is far easier to craft...

[limpid terrace]

Nah I'm comparing it to 5 kegs

[chilly bloom]

but the dehydrator could process 5 trees worth of fruit

kegs take 6-7 days for fruit so that's 30-35 kegs

and now it's easier to see the practical difference

[limpid terrace]

Day 1 apple > keg
Day 2 apple > keg
...
Day 7 get wine 1
...
Day 12 get 5 wine total
300x5/12 = 125 who cares about dehydrating at a loss

[chilly bloom]

because again, it's the ease of processing

why would I spend way more time doing something that'll net minor profits

[limpid terrace]

Nobody cares because it's not enough money if you use the dehydrator you're only trying to fill the collection or you need raisin or dried mushrooms.

[chilly bloom]

or waste time optimizing when the non optimal is superior in all but profit

It's plenty enough money, I think you overestimate the amount of cash you need for perfection

[rose totem]

also what you might want to think about is the resources to make kegs vs dehydrators.

[chilly bloom]

perfection is usually don over a 4-5 year period for moderate players, assuming 2-3 for time on ginger island, even with those couple years of just running sf dehydrators you'll have more than enough cash for perfection multiple times over

the time span you need the cash is way more than enough to allow dehydrators to be usable

[limpid terrace]

I think you overestimate what people will even bother with why even bother putting tree fruit in anything when it's easier to get 100/d with apples than get less money per day with machines that take up room you could be filling with starfruit and ancient fruit wine

[chilly bloom]

1 machine taking 1 tile to double profits of 5 trees...

how is that bad vs selling raw

[limpid terrace]

It's not even remotely doubling.

[chilly bloom]

there are 45,000 tiles on the map, not including on farm indoors, there is more than enough space

[limpid terrace]

It's not even close to doubling.

[chilly bloom]

if you have basic fruit then a dried version of that fruit with artisan doubles the sell price basically

so yeah, it's doubling

it's kegs that don't make sense, why care with 30+ kegs for a handful of fruit trees

[limpid terrace]

Okay so since nobody has fruit trees outside of the greenhouse that's 16 trees to double the value of wow 3 machines or I could just not care

[chilly bloom]

now you're fixating again, you were the one who brought up apples as an example, don't now turn that on me for continuing to use them

[limpid terrace]

You can make a profit on fruit that are worth -45g or less.

[chilly bloom]

I see a lot of people putting pomegranites and peaches down, those have a decent sell rate

140g base

that's what, ~5000 g per day with a dehydrator?

not insignificant

[limpid terrace]

My guy there is no point to try. All I have done is burn a valuable night of sleep and several hours after trying to prove something so I can say "see that thing on the wiki I'm resposible for that" and I've gained only a bad reputation.

[chilly bloom]

hey, you're the one continuing this conversation every time it dies, don't look at me

I'm happy to leave it here if you want

[limpid terrace]

Because there's like this desperate spark thinking that something I have done in the last 24 hours was not in vain.

[maiden fiber]

It’s okay to make mistakes and learn btw don’t beat yourself up for it

[limpid terrace]

A mistake is accidentally planting a coffee bean when harvesting them

I made a friggin ass of myself.

[maiden fiber]

Not fair, mistakes can be made by anyone to any degree

You’re not the first to get mathematically corrected here (me lol)

So don’t worry

[limpid terrace]

And this is a catastrophic one. I could've slept, worked on college work, play more stardew, and here I am having wasted 7 hours on a chart so I can selfishly proclaim "I singlehandedly changed the meta" and that my info would appear in a salmence vido or something.

I just wanted to feel proud of something, man.

[maiden fiber]

Well first and foremost I can’t tell you what to do, but college should always be your priority

Stardew is endless, it can wait

Secondly, if you’re doing this for reputation gain, I’d reconsider doing it just for the sake of helping seems healthier to think this way instead!

But don’t worry Stardew math is a monster & no one is faulting you for trying, don’t fault yourself for it

Feel proud of yourself for trying and proud to accept learning from it

[limpid terrace]

Well if it helps nobody then it still has no purpose.

[maiden fiber]

It helped you realize how you can improve in the future though

[limpid terrace]

FilthyGorilla said more that's helpful than I ever did.

[maiden fiber]

FG is a king when it comes to math, he’s just known for it

[limpid terrace]

The only thing I realized is hat someone else will alwys be better at doing the math so there's nno point tring because by the time you do have it down someone's already figured it out and better.

[maiden fiber]

Or — you can take what you learned from him and apply it for the future, instead of being so negative on yourself

[limpid terrace]

I'm just gonna go I've made too much of a scene anyway and should expect a ban soon anyway.

[full hull]

Shane's winter outfit got me feeling kinda uhh kinda uuuuuh

[maiden fiber]

Me with Haley & Sam fr

I have a thing for blondes after that

[full hull]

He just looks cute

I should look like him

[limpid terrace]

...I can't just keep feeling sorry for myself. I know I'm on to something or it wouldn't be bothering me so much.

I still think it's more worth converting tree fruit into dried fruit.

[maiden fiber]

It’s your game, do what you want

[chilly bloom]

From all but a pure profit perspective it is, really, do whatever you want but dehydrators were made for fast producers

Makes sense they’re good for trees

[limpid terrace]

It wasn't just trees though.

With my math, as flawed as it was, it also seemed to be good for other things.

I think the main reason to use a dehydrator over a jar or keg is when the value per item is only slightly lower but the number of items per season is high.

That's the main connector with my math.

[maiden fiber]

What’s your guys favorite statue of blessing power?

[limpid terrace]

When an item had a high number of fruit per harvest, it was labeled as "use the dehydrator."

[visual musk]

speed

[maiden fiber]

Same I think tbh

[visual musk]

i wanna speed through town

[maiden fiber]

ZOOM ZOOM

[visual musk]

whats the fastest possible speed actually?

[cunning cove]

I dont even have it yet

[visual musk]

im gonna think

[limpid terrace]

Wouldn't know never have 999 fiber

[maiden fiber]

[[Speed#Player_Speed]] Let’s seeeeee…

[formal gorge]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Speed#Player_Speed

[fathom saffron]

I just like dehydrators cause they're quick

[visual musk]

desert fest + spicy eel + triple espresso (the food and drink which arent from desert fest can be replaced by any food/drink with speed), uhh

wind books

horse book

horse

[maiden fiber]

Statue blessing

[limpid terrace]

HONSE

[visual musk]

yeah

and

the trinket

and the savage ring

[full hull]

How many trees do you even have to make them good for that? I'm all for dehydrators but I don't get it

[cunning cove]

Is espresso the only drink that increase speed

[fathom saffron]

I also use mushrooms in dehydrator

[full hull]

Technically there's 2 drinks that do

[visual musk]

and the calico statue

[full hull]

Coffee and espresso

[maiden fiber]

Joja cola, coffee, and espresso

[cunning cove]

I dont use dehydrators

[maiden fiber]

3 in 1.6

[visual musk]

on flooring while on farm

[limpid terrace]

They grow 1 fruit a day. In all fairness after 6 days you'll have a bag of banana chips.

[visual musk]

4

[full hull]

Oh I'm in year 1 and making 25k every couple of days with mushroom logs

Mushroom log supremacy

[maiden fiber]

What’s fourth?

[visual musk]

green tea gives +0.5 speed in 1.6