archived-update-spoilers

[woven tusk]

The biggest thing I hate about basic sprinklers is still taking a wholeass iron bar to make. Iron is a bottleneck for things for a surprisingly long time, even after you reach the mine stratum where gold starts spawning

[hushed hare]

Coal sprites really can't catch a break

[lofty axle]

Yeah, it should give more sprinklers to be worth it lol

[woven tusk]

I could possibly deal with the staggered zigzag pattern necessary for basic sprinklers, but... The materials are a ripoff

[lofty axle]

2-3 per craft would be really nice

Or maybe even 4

[woven tusk]

3+ per craft would hilariously make them more Iron-efficient than Quality unless we increase the craft yield for those too

[ocean parcel]

found the prismatic butterfly and it went out of bounds

[lofty axle]

*All of sprinklers recipes now yield 10 per craft.

[hushed hare]

What time was it?

Someone said they leave at 5pm

[ocean parcel]

10am, reloading by walking into a building helped

[hushed hare]

Good to know!

[elfin finch]

Would it be a good idea to only smoke fish that have a decent price (50-100g+)? Given coal can be scarce

[hushed hare]

I have yet to get a shard from them, only got money so far

The 3 times I found it

[lofty axle]

It's always the best idea

For coal just grind the dust sprites

[elfin finch]

Ah, okay. The other bottleneck is smoker space due to no recipe

[lofty axle]

[[smoker]]

[[Fish_Smoker]]

Weh

Need to go there manually

[elfin finch]

Don't have 10K or even close for recipe from willy

[lofty axle]

It processes rather quickly

You can also try to get it from prize machine

[elfin finch]

True

[hushed hare]

Isn't that a one time possibilty? And if you get a different item from that slot, it's GG?

[lofty axle]

Yup

One or two times

I got lucky on my save lol

[hushed hare]

Same

[woven tusk]

Build a Bait Maker and you can vastly improve the ratio of Catfish you hook on rainy days.
Once it's summer, use it for Sturgeons at the mountain lake instead

That gives you a steady supply of great stuff to smoke for sale

Bait Maker sacrifices one fish to make 5-10 bait for that fish. The results are extremely worthwhile in the right places

[lofty axle]

I use it at volcano for lava eels

[mellow atlas]

how to get turtles and more than one pte

[lofty axle]

I've seen a drastical increase there as well

[lofty axle]

Max out friendship with your starter pet

[woven tusk]

This is the endgame usage, yeah (sadly it doesn't work in Mine B100F)

[lofty axle]

Mines is awful location to fish for eels

[woven tusk]

Mine fishing doesn't use the normal fishing programming, so targeted bait doesn't even work down there

[mellow atlas]

How do you unlock a fairy to follow you around?

[chilly bloom]

Combat mastery

Then find a fairy trinket

[mellow atlas]

Thanks!

[sharp gazelle]

20 coal for a single mahogany seed is INSANE

[lofty axle]

Then don't

[woven tusk]

Hm. If I'm to plant a proper Mystic Tree farm, I'm going to need more Mahogany Seeds myself

[lofty axle]

Buy one let it grow and farm seeds then

[woven tusk]

I'd best plant and fertilize some now so they can propagate

[chilly bloom]

It’s like 1-2 coal per hardwood

Which isn’t bad at all

That’s pricing hardwood at around 400g per

Plus the trees drop seeds so the price is less over time

[wet geyser]

damn how ? that dmg

[woven tusk]

I suspect this is about mystic seeds rather than hardwood

[woven tusk]

Dragontooth cutlass, Desperado, Critpower innate...

Oh, they fully explained it right above.

[chilly bloom]

I realized that but I meant in terms of balancing

If they were much cheaper hardwood would then be thrown around

Even though it is quite easy to get a lot per day

You can also get like 50-70 mahogany seeds a day from hardmode mines

Which is probably faster than you’re getting the other seeds

[weak rapids]

What did this update add to joja

[oak pier]

the man in the cave that u can buy 1 % of perfection for like atleast 500k gold (u can buy urself through the game with that one)

[weak rapids]

Thank ye very much

[oak pier]

np :D

[viscid sleet]

heyyy uhhhh where that cave at

[oak pier]

at ginger island,i believe at the digiste but im not sure

[viscid sleet]

OHH yeah !!! i assume he only shows up after you unlock qi's room ?

[oak pier]

finally ||green rain ||

[oak pier]

yh

[viscid sleet]

green rain green rain green rain

[oak pier]

were gonna go crazy with the ||moss|| today

NAHH MY TV AINT TVING

[viscid sleet]

ruh uh

[brittle peak]

i love green rain

[oak pier]

me too its so funny and a good farming time for moos

[brittle peak]

fr, i just wished that you didnt have to get all the moss and fiber in one day

[oak pier]

aww my fav homeless man

[oak pier]

yh its a hassle

[brittle peak]

i say its a yes

[oak pier]

for what does my bro need moss

[brittle peak]

who knows?

[viscid sleet]

its his damn business LEAVE HIM ALONE!!

/lh /j

[wet scroll]

w

[oak pier]

how can i pick it up,i need that

[hoary pivot]

I wanna yoink it as well

[drowsy steeple]

does granpa wear his nightgown everywhere then

[oak pier]

idk,hes dead to i guess they buried him in that f bro

[drowsy steeple]

no i mean considering you can find his nightgown cap thingy in the cave

when he was still alive does he always wear the outfit in the portrait like at all times

[oak pier]

maybe its his main fit after he became so old,like granpa fit idk

[drowsy steeple]

ya I thought he only started wearing that on his deathbed

[oak pier]

huh?Where u going man?

[oak pier]

maybe,cuz he was so old he had to stay in bed so he just wore that

[elfin finch]

Got an orange sapling on Spring 26, should I wait until I have a greenhouse?

[soft grove]

why can I not put hats on my iridium turtle

[elfin finch]

Since it'll only give me a few before it goes out of season.

[soft grove]

you’re telling me I paid 500k for this guy and he can’t wear a hat !!!

[elfin finch]

Got it from prize ticket

[soft grove]

[lofty juniper]

i don't think leo's schedule is properly updated for green rain day

on the wiki

or maybe it was and im just dumb

never mind ok it was summer 16, green rain, and he was just on ginger island all day instead of what the wiki says (i do have 6+hearts)

[hushed hare]

does it rain in the Desert during green rain?

because my maple trees turned to special ones

[drowsy steeple]

weird for george to request joja cola while having exactly a can in his trash. so I just gave him what he threw away

[gray oriole]

He bought a cola and then evelyn threw it away

[lofty axle]

Granny says no-no to unhealthy food and drinks

[drowsy steeple]

does he even leave the house without evelyn

what's the best enemy to farm golden boxes

[hushed hare]

something weak in the upper levels of regular mines

• monster musk

[drowsy steeple]

isn't it more populous at the ice levels

[hushed hare]

I don't know if the box drop rate is tied to monster HP/lvl

[gray oriole]

An infested floor maybe?

[hushed hare]

sure, but can the coal sprites get a break from the farmer

[gray oriole]

irregardless of enemy type

[drowsy steeple]

lol

[gray oriole]

I wonder if small slimes spawned by big slimes drop

SC but farming for big slimes might work if so

[drowsy steeple]

do you know where the code is located

[hushed hare]

I don't think I've ever used monster musk in SC

[gray oriole]

That one linus event where he thought a raccoon was in the trash

[hushed hare]

and the Penny event

[elfin finch]

Got 3.5k or so, what summer crops first?

Besides necessary bundle ones

[hushed hare]

0.5% on each axe hit is huge

maybe treasure bait+bobber would work

[drowsy steeple]

so in theory you should get steel pickaxe max

[hushed hare]

what a way to min/max

drop axe in lava, get new one

[drowsy steeple]

you can drop axe?

[hushed hare]

dunno

[drowsy steeple]

no you can't

you can't even drop weapons 😦

wait you can

I guess that only applies to broken trident for some reason?

[mellow atlas]

im gonna go back to my meadowlands file. it already achieved perfection but honestly there’s still more to do and I’m in the mood to relax

[hushed hare]

uhhh, why is the wiki page for mystic syrup weirdly formatted?

[gray oriole]

Weird how

[drowsy steeple]

oh no I fainted right after I stole some tea leaves from caro

what would pierre think

[hushed hare]

like the default wikipedia layout

[drowsy steeple]

still don't see what you mean

[austere oracle]

Can star fruit become giant crops or is that a mod

[drowsy steeple]

mod

[austere oracle]

That’s what I thought 🙂 thank you

[woven tusk]

As many Blueberries as you can sustainably water/sprinkler.

[polar valve]

you go by the order theyre written, not by jumping to the number set for them

its not like this

its like this

[maiden fiber]

what is happening

[hushed hare]

I'm just as confused

[maiden fiber]

😭

[hushed hare]

the shell puzzle is one of the easier, straight forward ones

[brittle peak]

idk

[maiden fiber]

there was too many numbers

just to make it more confusing

[woven tusk]

I'm a right-handed pianist, so maybe this is just extremely intuitive to me as fingering notation?

They're 12345 from left to right, and the order to click them is leftmost(1), rightmost (5), second-from-right (4), second-from-left (2), center 3. Right?

[maiden fiber]

yes

[woven tusk]

They are arranged in rising order so that the correct sequence plays out the melody from the mermaid song

[hushed hare]

it's funny how with the diamond book, the mussel nodes on GI can drop gems if mined manually

[woven tusk]

Why don't Oyster ponds produce pearls actually

[hushed hare]

trueeeee

what if all fish that go in special recipes produced that in their respective ponds, not just the eels

[maiden fiber]

blobfish somehow do LOL

i cant get the image of irl blobfish whenever i see it 😭

[drowsy steeple]

I'm actually impressed how you managed to misinterpret it like this

[polar valve]

its because of the - between each number

[stuck surge]

Is buying a turtle worth it for the chance of getting a rainbow shell?

[mental sail]

nah, it will be summer anyway most likely before you have it at full hearts

[maiden fiber]

didnt think the pet type mattered for the items you get

[mental sail]

it does, turtles give beach stuff

[chilly bloom]

It does

Cats will give fish and rabbit feet, dogs give wood and stuff or smt

[stuck surge]

Alright, I'll just focus on foraging and building up my rainbow trout pond

[hushed hare]

bone fragments

hardwood

[elfin finch]

Do monster kill or fishing quests give friendship or just gold?

[maiden fiber]

monster kill one is gold

[stuck surge]

It depends on if it's a quest from the help wanted board. Even then, sometimes it's just gold and sometimes it's both.

[elfin finch]

Thanks. Is there a way to check?

[stuck surge]

Not that I've seen, no

I think that if the quest has the name of the NPC, it gives you friendship with them

[violet creek]

Dogs can give dirt, bone fragments, wood, some artifacts
Cats can give fish items, duck feathers and rabbits feet

I've had a dog give me elven jewelry and a cat give me a cave jelly. No idea how the kitty found the cave jelly lol

[brittle peak]

i was really glad to have a dog on my dont leave the farm challenge because that was the only way i could get hardwood for mushroom log

[mental sail]

cave? don't cats give river jelly and turtles the others?

[hushed hare]

from hunting fish?

[violet creek]

Yes but cave jelly is in caves and the kitty should be sticking to the farm xD

[chilly bloom]

Missed the fish and got a face full of jelly

Cat probably thinks it could poison you too

[topaz pollen]

he went with abigail dw

she wanted to eat rocks and the cat wanted to eat cave fish

[dense marten]

Is there any news on 1.6 for console?

[woven tusk]

Abigail does canonically like cats

[brittle peak]

no

i dont think so

[dense marten]

People who don't like cats are wrong

[dense marten]

Heck I was hoping there would be news

[drowsy steeple]

people who like cats don't like birds

[dense marten]

Yes and

[drowsy steeple]

being invasive species and all it hurts the environment

oh hey what a productive year 1

[hushed hare]

cats and guinea pigs, a bad combo

[dense marten]

Birds can also be invasive and hurt the environment

[brittle peak]

you got all that done in y1?

[drowsy steeple]

yes!

[brittle peak]

wow! impressive!

i wouldnt have near all that done

[drowsy steeple]

it's CC so it's going to be slower

[brittle peak]

fr i probably wouldnt have gi much less found all the walnuts in y1

even going joja

[drowsy steeple]

horse flute or infinite money?

[violet creek]

i love cats. irl i do not let my cats outside bc i am fully aware of the harm they can do if they decide to be little hunting pests in an area where they arent like, working as a ratter

[woven tusk]

A difficult choice indeed...

I forget, can Extended Family spawn if I haven't caught the original legendaries yet

[drowsy steeple]

I haven't caught angler and legend

[woven tusk]

Excellent, thank you

[drowsy steeple]

so I guess it replaces the original ones?

oh no I've given 17 people gifts last sunday. which means out of 53 possible gifts I have to give 50 of them :/

[slender valley]

Pick extended family

[hushed hare]

does the stardrop tea count?

[drowsy steeple]

I assume so but I have none in stock, even after fishing a lot

[hushed hare]

what made you go ham last Sunday?

[drowsy steeple]

I go ham every day

I fr carry prismatics everywhere

so I can do precisely that

[low drift]

So the tents you get on Ginger Island, can they be set up anyplace?

[hushed hare]

any place outside, where there's 3x2 room

IIRC

[mental sail]

Wiki says no anyway (on the friendship page, not the quest one)

[drowsy steeple]

oh well extended family it is then

it's going to be annoying to chase every last odd townfolks

[low drift]

So I can't do it in the dungeon then. Drat.

[hushed hare]

no, you gotta go outside

[drowsy steeple]

nice try

[hushed hare]

but you'll have a good start tomorrow

I never used one

I don't even sleep on GI

main farm or bust

[violet creek]

put a tent on a random cavern floor and sleep, get tent burnt down by pepper rex in sleep

[drowsy steeple]

sleeping on GI has the added benefit of basically sleeping on main farm bc return scepter

[ebon hinge]

Is Holly the most useless item in the game?

[low drift]

I ask about the tents because I'm not certain I can get through all ten floors in the span of one game day.

[mental sail]

If you don't mind the slight cheatyness, take a screenshot (via options) of the whole floor, plan where to go and it should be much easier

[low drift]

Been saving bombs for my next attempt, cause somebody suggested I'd need them.

[drowsy steeple]

could be, I couldn't think of anything that compares

[violet creek]

at least holly is a liked gift by a few people and makes a cute blouse lol it has some minor use

[ebon hinge]

I don't even bother with liked gifts. Only loved. Lol.

Maybe super early game for gifting then?

[drowsy steeple]

I think every clothing item that you don't like could be worse than a holly

it cannot be sold or gifted and it doesn't stack

[ebon hinge]

I was originally just thinking like things you find. But tru like if you find 3 shirts while mining, huge inventory waste.

[sacred river]

You can put them on mannequins for decoration so no they're not entirely useless

And an infinite number of them can be placed inside one dresser so there's that

[topaz pollen]

chat why are there pet frog emotes

those are 1.6 exclusive

[topaz pollen]

at least those don't take up space

hollies need chests to store

[hushed hare]

there were wild frogs before, no? that jumped in the water

[topaz pollen]

it says specifically pet frog

[hushed hare]

I mean a chicken emote has PET in it

all animals do

[topaz pollen]

might be

but is that the sprite for the jumping frog

or the frog egg frog

[hushed hare]

I mean, if you look hard enough, but like... who's gonna figure out "combat mastery trinket frog" from how an emote looks

[topaz pollen]

true

guess i just looked too much into it

[rich lake]

The emote was like that way before 1.6

[topaz pollen]

oh

ok

thansk

[half prairie]

[obtuse crescent]

heyoh does anyone know why there's just a random face right here

like look at it

[stiff wadi]

Is it not possible to get journal scraps from treasure totems? i've been farming artifact spots on GI but no luck so far, even tho the wiki says artifact spots should have an 11% chance at a scrap

[marble patrol]

Doesn't Sebastian technically get a pet frog pre 1.6 as well, in his marriage heart events

[low drift]

Not technically, it's precisely what happens.

[marble patrol]

Well I meant technically regarding it being considered a per or not

*pet

[ashen lichen]

u have me looking stupid js squinting at my screen where df is fhe face

[obtuse crescent]

i swear

like between the two top trees

bruh i dont even know

[ashen lichen]

LMFAOOAA

ur tweaking

been on stardew too long

[obtuse crescent]

bruh

i swear

looks just like a face

[ashen lichen]

i mean i kinda see an old man at the bottom

[obtuse crescent]

nah im just kinda dumb

[neat mulch]

Ngl, I think you've been on Stardew a little too long 😭

[obtuse crescent]

bruh i dont even know

[ashen lichen]

GOJOOO PFPFPFOF

[neat mulch]

YESSSS

[ashen lichen]

HAIAIAIIAIAIA I LOVEJJKK

[neat mulch]

In Gojo we trust 🙏

[ashen lichen]

in gojo we thrust

[surreal rapids]

Where would you sleep?

[arctic trout]

Who needs sleep when you have cash

[surreal rapids]

Good point

[ashen lichen]

he can sleep on the gold its fine

[short silo]

in your main farmhouse & use a fully upgraded cabin for your 586 kegs

[arctic trout]

Or use a tent

Or sleep on the floor

[lone yoke]

Ok what marine? I feel like this is a new quest? Is it? I have never seen this one since 2021 lol

[final spindle]

What do you recommend I buy from the bookseller?

[primal pulsar]

Way of the Wind

Speed is always important

[wanton basin]

hi chat how is 1.6 treating you

[arctic trout]

Horribly i have to get all the 1.6 stuff on my main save

[rare trout]

How do u upgrade cabins tho??

Do u need someone to come in and do it??

I tried one time and it didn't let me upgrade the cabin so I switched back to a shed

[wanton basin]

i havent touched 1.6 yet and i dont plan to so you'll do more than i ever will

[arctic trout]

Yup

[woven tusk]

That player also needs to stay connected for the required number of days and nights

So they can't just upgrade and logoff

[rare trout]

Mmmmm sheds it is then 😭

Not really a huge problem but yeahhhh cabins seem like too much work fr me

[polar valve]

What happens if you dont have a bed?

[lone yoke]

This kinda shows on how much Joja doesnt care about their customers in my opinion

[polar valve]

Conceredape should have really leaned on downsides for working for joja
Like seen here, lead and arsenic poisoning for one

[thorn trellis]

Quick question, i got my mastery in winter. Which skill should i pursue that give you exp aside from farming? [mining, combat or fishing?]

[shrewd plume]

Mining is by far the fastest if you're good with SC

[lone yoke]

I think going into mining

[olive patio]

probably used lead to make the plastic or rubber

[lone yoke]

yeah

[shrewd plume]

Fishing can net a decent amount of XP too (3-4K/day)

[lone yoke]

Im currently using the new catalogues and this is what i made with the joja catalogue that prob has lead

and then retro one

[thorn trellis]

Thankiee @lone yoke @shrewd plume

[olive patio]

now I am thinking of P65 warnings

[lone yoke]

yw

[olive patio]

on basically everything because food*

[lone yoke]

joja catalogue is hard to work with in my opinion using only stuff from it lol

[olive patio]

*(some chips have P65 warnings)

[lone yoke]

like there isnt the joja shelves in the catalogue, or like stuff you would see in joja mart

gn im going to bed early im tired

[rain zinc]

Does anyone know which version of pc will be the next content update for the mobile version?

[elfin finch]

Ugh.. accidentally mined my ancient fruit seed

[maiden fiber]

No one knows

[shrewd plume]

It will be the last 1.6 PC update

So 1.6.9 or later

[elfin finch]

Instead of something else. At least I had another

[shrewd plume]

1.6.9 appears to be mainly bugfixes so I think there won't be many 1.6 PC updates left

[elfin finch]

Do you mean for the 1.6 cycle or is it going EOL update wise?

[shrewd plume]

1.6 cycle

[elfin finch]

Makes sense. Thanks!

[rain zinc]

The mobile version of Stardew Valley is still the content of version 1.56.

[maiden fiber]

So is every other non-PC platform

[final spindle]

is the trout derby 1.6?

[shrewd plume]

Yes

[final spindle]

Are the rewards random or do they increase in quality?

[woven tusk]

FML

[shrewd plume]

The rewards start repeating after ||11||

[maiden fiber]

They’re not random, they have an order

[shrewd plume]

They're not random either

[rain zinc]

[final spindle]

ah damn

so i got them all then

damn the trout is huge xD

[shrewd plume]

My favorite reward is the Mounted Trout that painting is amazing

The rest of the rewards are okay

I'll also take a free Tent Kit ig

[final spindle]

they're pretty bad imo lol barely worth it

the tent kit IS nice

[shrewd plume]

Yeah I just try to get exactly 11 Golden Tags to get all of the rewards and then dip

[woven tusk]

FMLFMLFMLFMLFML

GUESS WHAT, I SPENT ALL MY STAIRCASES YESTERDAY

[near tapir]

rip

[rain zinc]

my mobile archive file can be moved to the computer to play, so can the computer archive be moved to the mobile to play ?

[maiden fiber]

Not if they’re different game versions

[rain zinc]

okey

[woven tusk]

Did a test run of the dangerous mines. The rocks here drop a ridiculous number of Stones, so it's not hard to get enough for staircases on the fly and skip the worst floors. Hm.

[solemn hemlock]

is not smoking high quality fish better?

because i smoked some fish that was iridium quality and my friend witha price catalog said it costs less

[maiden fiber]

How would it cost less?

[solemn hemlock]

we both have fisher and dont have artisan maybe?

[maiden fiber]

If you don’t have artisan yeah

[solemn hemlock]

ooh ok

[maiden fiber]

Could be more than the coal price

[solemn hemlock]

is it better for the grange display tho?

[woven tusk]

Smoking regular quality fish is always worse than smoking high quality fish

Because smoking keeps quality

And the price multiplier still works

Maybe they were looking at a stack of unsmoked fish and the price catalogue reported the full stack's value, and they compared that to the value of one smoked fish?

That's tripped me up before

[solemn hemlock]

nah it was just cuz we didnt have artisan

[woven tusk]

That's odd. Any fish is straightup worth double after smoking

Artisan makes it 2.8x instead of 2.0x

[solemn hemlock]

thats what i thought

[woven tusk]

Like, it's bad to smoke cheap fish because then you're wasting the coal

[molten turret]

yea

[woven tusk]

But higher quality fish is more valuable so smoking it doubles a bigger number and gets you more profit

[solemn hemlock]

nevermind i think she just misread

[woven tusk]

[arctic trout]

LETS GOOOO I GOT JAS IN THE DESERT EVENT

Rock candy time

[cyan nymph]

No this dialogue is NOT MODDED

[violet creek]

interesting farm name lol

[lapis kite]

I just got broccoli seeds from the prize machine thingy (first time using it), it’s fall day 14 so I don’t feel like planting them outside - is it worth planting them in the greenhouse if I have extra space? What can I do with the broccoli after? Anything for perfection bc that’s what I’m working on rn

[violet creek]

unsure, i like growing them anyways and theyre one of the continuously producing crops which is nice

[drowsy steeple]

imo get 1 broccoli and ship it

[arctic trout]

A bug just dropped a galaxy soul how rare is that

Dangerous bug

OMG A SPECIAL SLIME JUST DROPPED THE IRIDIUM NEEDLE

Also dangerous

Why does the egg rate counter appear in the dangerous regular mines

[finite warren]

I'm theming my farmhouse rooms for each marriage candidate. I need ideas for items to decorate Maru's room. So far it's got penny's night sky decals and the retro spaceship painting, and I put winter and night fish in some fish tanks.

[molten turret]

cool farm name

[patent bane]

farm computer perhaps?

[maiden fiber]

I made an alien farm just for Maru

[patent bane]

Demetrius also sells a periodic table poster in his stall at the desert festival

[maiden fiber]

Can check in #farms-and-outfits but it’s 1.5

[finite warren]

That's a good one. I was gonna put the periodic table in Harvey's room.

[ebon hinge]

My farm and name are "peepee" so she said "Mmmm.... peepee eggs." 🤣

[solemn hemlock]

is smoked fish good for the stardew festival display

[maiden fiber]

Yeah higher sell price than normal fish

[faint skiff]

Just shipping one for perfection or if you’re going for achievements, you have to ship 15

[quartz forum]

Opened a gold treasure box, got three blue treasure boxes. Opened all three, and one of THOSE gave me two more blue treasure boxes. Good lord.

[twilit briar]

recursive dupe

[gaunt summit]

Which trinket is better? Basilisk Paw or Parrot Egg?

Cuz I got both

Don't know which one to use

[ebon hinge]

Probably the paw

If you find a quiver though, that's pretty useful imho

[gaunt summit]

Yeah I'm using paw atm

Really helping in the volcano

Bc of those friggin Magma Sparkers

[maiden fiber]

I only ever use parrot egg

Only time I used fairy box was for Qi’s Hungry Challenge

[violet creek]

i usually use the quiver or frog just bc i like them keeping enemies away from me when swarms appear. frog doesnt join me till ive gotten eradication goals done and i dont care about the loot as much anymore tho

[maiden fiber]

What about ice rod for large mob groups

[ebon hinge]

Sometime the quiver is annoying because I just wanna hit them with my sword but they keep getting pushed back. Lol but generally its great for avoiding getting ambushed

[violet creek]

ive not actually tried the ice rod yet, prob cause the first trinket i actually obtained was a perfect quiver lol

[maiden fiber]

The rod freezes in a path

So all enemies are affected in that path

[violet creek]

i play with sve and ridgeside currently so im prob gonna finally try the ice rod out once i get into one of their monster-filled zones

[cobalt tulip]

this is my farm so far in the new update i figured this was the safest place to post this Year 2 winter

[chilly bloom]

You can also post in #farms-and-outfits spoilered

Looking great though, send a day pic too

[maiden fiber]

Beat me to it lol

[cobalt tulip]

yeah ill get yall a day pic

day pic as requested lol

[maiden fiber]

[cobalt tulip]

<3

[molten turret]

looks great

love the color scheme!

[red goblet]

Which animal should I give my first golden cracker?

I currently have 4 cows, 2 goats, 2 chickens, 2 ducks, a void chicken and a dino

[drowsy steeple]

cows

[sour tartan]

Cows would be whack indeed

[high creek]

Sheep are the best option, but you don't have any yet.

Of those options, Cows are the best.

[drowsy steeple]

best money should be sheep > ostrich > cows i think

[high creek]

I like giving them to Rabbits after Sheep personally. Not for money though, jsut nice to have a lot of Feet on hand so I don't have to think about gifts.

[drowsy steeple]

same, I don't even have sheep bc I want to keep agriculturalist

I have 4 rabbits printing iridium rabbit's feet

[sour tartan]

I still love rabbits a lot
Though now I see the appeal of sheep... I can make way more money with artisan stuff instead of wool niche...
But... If any prestige mods come along that allow you to get all the professions, I could go for sheep

[rich trellis]

just got a galaxy soul and a prismatic shard within 10 seconds of each other lol

[drowsy steeple]

what's the ideal legend II setup again? curiosity lure, trap bobber, and wild bait?

[sour tartan]

Challenge bait I'd suggest

[drowsy steeple]

pls I'm not sicarious

[open geyser]

Dun forget Seafoam Pudding.

[rich trellis]

[Smoked Legend II Guide]
1 Iridium Smoked Legend II, fisher+angler+artisan = 42.000 gold

Prerequisites:

• Nut room
• Fisher+Angler+Artisan
• Smoker
• Advanced iridium rod (don't forget u can also enchant it)

Obligatory setup:

• 30-50 coal
• 200 wild bait (I've tried legend ii bait using bait maker and it's so bad... just use wild bait)
• Fishing stat foods (1/2 fish stew/lobster bisque per day is enough.)
• 15 quality bobbers (so the quality is iridium. difference between iridium and gold is ~10k per fish and u dont wanna lose that)
• 15 trap bobber (curiosity lure is better statistically but trust me we all have skill issues we can't fish this consistently without a trap bobber 😭)

Unobligatory setup:

• 2-3 Tent kit
• Mountain warp totem/obelisk

Blessings of water bonus, this blessing made catching legend ii feels like catching smallmouth bass. Reset day if BOW is active but you didn't pull any legend iis:

• Statue of Blessings
• 9 Challenge bait (3 per day.)
• Curiosity lure

If u get 10/day, 1.26M per 3 day is safe. Reset day if u get less than 10 a day. Or don't. It's up to you.

[sour tartan]

Wow, this is... A lot holy...

[drowsy steeple]

ooo two water days

the counter starts the day I get the quest right? so I should get it tomorrow at the 2nd

[drowsy steeple]

curiosity lure is better than quality bobbers. with quality you get 10k more extra fish but with curiosity you basically double your amount of fish

and if you use curiosity + preserving rod, targeted is better than wild bait. with targeted you get like 40% more fish while wild bait you get 25%

[tough remnant]

Yes, plus fishing food obviously.

If you're really struggling, the first thing that would be dropped is the wild bait, subbing it out for deluxe bait instead

[drowsy steeple]

targeted tho

at fishing level 14, that's a 14% increase with average fish loss of 6.6%

[lapis kite]

Did 1.6 add any new buildings or building extensions (like bigger farm house)? I saw these pics and I can’t tell if it’s a mod or part of 1.6 (someone posted these in #farms-and-outfits so not my pics!!)

[torpid zephyr]

That's definitely a mod but 1.6 did add some extra rooms too

[lapis kite]

What’s a legend II setup?

Okay thank you!

[stiff wadi]

the one on the right is from the grandpa's farm mod

[lapis kite]

Thank you! Gonna download it right now :)

[stiff wadi]

I really recommend it! It's super cute. Most people like to pair it with Stardew Valley Expanded, but you can use it without

[lapis kite]

Omggg wait the bus is a part of your farm in that mod? Girl I am RUNNIN’ to get it ahhh

[steady narwhal]

Cork bobber, iridium rod, wildbait and qi seafoam pudding

That's what I did for my perfect catch on Legend II pre 1.6

Also iridium rod has master on it too so

[drowsy steeple]

isn't master like basically inconsequential

[steady narwhal]

Nah it's always good to have more fishing levels

Rest of the fishing enchants I don't use

[lapis kite]

What’s a legend II?

[steady narwhal]

Fish from qi fishing quest

[lapis kite]

Oh is it like a version of the legend fish?

[steady narwhal]

Yes

[lapis kite]

Gotcha, thank you!

Also floor 11,187 - is that how far you’ve gotten in skull cavern??

[stray swift]

ye

[drowsy steeple]

my calculations must have been wrong, out of 10 casts with targeted Legend II bait I've hooked 7 of them wtf

[stray swift]

what are the odds of you getting that with your calculated probabilities

[drowsy steeple]

idk I'm not good with probabilities of probabilities

but it should've been 34%

[stray swift]

to get a single legend II?

[drowsy steeple]

per cast yea

with curiosity and targeted

[stray swift]

i mean that seems like maybe a 1/100 idk

[drowsy steeple]

lmao minimum is 10% without tackles or bait

[stray swift]

i just plugged it into a calculator and this result is a 2% chance?

[drowsy steeple]

immediately the next 10 is 3/10 so that's a good sign that it isn't wrong after all

ok I'm starting to think this isn't worth it. 20 gold legend II gives 450k g per day, which is half what I would get in the SC

[tough remnant]

Not even remotely worth the cost

Actually, I should do the maths on that now that we have accurate modelling for targeted bait odds

[drowsy steeple]

I've discussed this with @gray oriole, the chance increase is double the average fish loss, which combined is substantially better than wild bait

[gray oriole]

hi

[drowsy steeple]

hi lucent

[gray oriole]

u remember how it was concluded that raising your fishing level past 10 decreased the chance of legend with targetted bait

[tough remnant]

Yeah

[gray oriole]

well if u take that to its logical conclusion, Master enchant is bad so u swap it with the only other option worth considering, Preserving

[drowsy steeple]

I was on fishing lv 10 this whole time 😅

[tough remnant]

Kinda offset by the shortened bite time though

[gray oriole]

this halves the % increase needed for targetted bait to be net positive

[tough remnant]

Ah true

Preserving is pretty good

[drowsy steeple]

no, it halves the differential

which is better

wait I misinterpreted what you said

[tough remnant]

Preserving is 50% chance to not consume bait right?

[gray oriole]

yes

drops it to like 6-7% absolute increase for target bait to be worthwhile i think

[tough remnant]

Okay, so that means you get 15 casts per baitmakered Legend II

On average

[gray oriole]

i have no idea how accurate simon's calculator is but

[tough remnant]

Quite

[gray oriole]

it's definitely a higher than 7% increase using legend bait

[drowsy steeple]

sicarious would know, he helped with verifying it

[tough remnant]

Okay, so every 15 casts, with targeted bait, you catch 5.26 Legend IIs on average

For a net profit of 4.26

[gray oriole]

assuming 13 fishing

its a.. 7.26% absolute increase from the base 10%?

[drowsy steeple]

if you want the best results take curiosity into account, it's multiplicative

[gray oriole]

13 because I like using lobster bisque

[rich trellis]

ive already mentioned that curiosity is better but our skill is the limit lol

[gray oriole]

14.26% if curiosity lure is used

[drowsy steeple]

no, swap quality with curiosity instead of trap

[tough remnant]

In comparison, with Wild Bait, on max luck day, from every 15 casts you will catch 3.975 Legend IIs on average

So yeah, targeted bait actually worth it

Neat

[steady narwhal]

Ye

[lapis kite]

Without mods?? How did you manage that?

[tough remnant]

4.26 >3.98

[gray oriole]

a lot of staircases and spamming the pause key probably

[steady narwhal]

Pausing and staircases for 5.5 hours not counting sleep

[rich trellis]

wait you're onto something here

[tough remnant]

You'd be better off dropping the Quality Bobber than the Curiosity Lure though

[lapis kite]

5.5 hours irl or in game?

[steady narwhal]

IRL

[drowsy steeple]

now calculate the bite delay offset lol

[tough remnant]

Doesn't Legend II bait have shortest bite times?

[gray oriole]

best case scenario a quality bobber nets you 33% more money from legends from gold -> iridium I think

[steady narwhal]

I'd probably do curiosity and cork instead

[gray oriole]

every bait but deluxe should have equal bite time, no?

[drowsy steeple]

oh I thought deluxe = wild

[tough remnant]

It used to be based on the sell value of the bait

Dunno if that's changed, I didn't look at that

[true thunder]

you know something i find to understand.
when CA was making the statues why did he do two different method for selecting buffs?
couldn't he do both act like either option?

[gray oriole]

ah you're right wild bait also has a boosted bite time

[tough remnant]

Because he specifically didn't want them to feel the same

[true thunder]

oh

[rich trellis]

btw how do i change the buff? by having two statues?

[drowsy steeple]

one is for raining

[true thunder]

you don't...

[gray oriole]

it's..
bait = target bait = magnet = magic = 50%
wild bait = challenge 62.5%
deluxe 67%

[rich trellis]

ohhh okay

ty

[drowsy steeple]

wait fr

lemme check again

[rich trellis]

deluxe is better?????

[molten turret]

deluxe has 67%

[gray oriole]

I mean

bite time is deluxe's main gimmick

[tough remnant]

Nah

The bigger bar definitely the primary selling point

[gray oriole]

counterargument

[rich trellis]

anyone tag me when the calculations for the best setup is done 😅

[gray oriole]

almost anything difficult enough u start considering the increased bar size, has to compete with the loss of profit from not using wild/challenge/target bait

[tough remnant]

TBH, best setup is gonna be fishing buffs + targeted bait + curiosity lure + quality bobber

[rich trellis]

related question, how do i farm curiosity lure lol

[sacred river]

I just realized Robin still works on a building during Y1 green rain

Woman is truly built different

[tough remnant]

The extra consistency from the larger bar and the bite time are gonna easily counteract the miniscule reduction in bite chance

[gray oriole]

deluxe's BiS bite time makes it uniquely suited for stuff like fishing up jellies imo

[tough remnant]

Counterpoint though

By far the best way to fish up (most) jellies is using training rod

[rich trellis]

aint nobody catching any legend iis consistently with that 😭

[drowsy steeple]

countercounterpoint, the increase isn't that big to warrant the loss of two dressed spinners and deluxe bait

[tough remnant]

You'd really be surprised

[tough remnant]

Yeah, those suck

[gray oriole]

?

[drowsy steeple]

@tough remnant any ideas if we can add Sicarious Method in the jelly modes? lol

[tough remnant]

This is the good shit

[sacred river]

It's interesting how the minmaxers have an overanalyzing discussion

Because I never understand anything

[gray oriole]

what am i looking at

[rich trellis]

i wont be surprised but people whose able to do that are those people with a deranged skill in osu or any type with a rythm game

[sacred river]

Since we're in this topic how common can you get cave jellies

And what's the setup for them

[drowsy steeple]

just max luck basically

[rich trellis]

btw what website is that?

[tough remnant]

Cave jellies are just max luck + fastest catch time in Mines 100

[ashen lichen]

hiiii

[gray oriole]

@drowsy steeple i think i broke your calculator

[drowsy steeple]

which location

[sacred river]

Does curiosity lure affect

[tough remnant]

You need the advanced options for this lol

[tough remnant]

Slightly reduces your odds actually, since you'll catch more Lava Eels

[gray oriole]

oh i see

[drowsy steeple]

lol this is wrong, gourmand shouldn't advance jelly seed 😦

[sacred river]

So the fishing rod setup is just wild bait + 2 dressed spinners?

[gray oriole]

does halving the bite down double the fish rate

[tough remnant]

deluxe, not wild

[sacred river]

Won't you be able to catch 2 jellies with wild

[gray oriole]

jelly aren't fish

[drowsy steeple]

pulling fish out of the water takes time as well

[sacred river]

Interesting

[drowsy steeple]

at some point it can be longer than the nibble time

[gray oriole]

how do u get 8 luck again

[sacred river]

I would assume autohook

[gray oriole]

ah qi seasoning

[drowsy steeple]

MRC + chef + ginger ale

wait that's more than 8

[sacred river]

Spicy eel

[gray oriole]

??

eel sucks

[sacred river]

Woops didn't mean to reply

[drowsy steeple]

how much does qi ginger ale give

[sacred river]

+2

Iirc

[gray oriole]

2

[drowsy steeple]

MRC + qi ginger ale + 2 lucky rings + chef is 12 isn't it

[rich trellis]

so its +13 max?

blessinf

[gray oriole]

5 mrc + 2 ale + 2 ring + 3 rare + 1 statue

[drowsy steeple]

ah yes blessing

[sacred river]

Oh wait I'm dumb I completely forgot mrc overrides spicy eel

[mystic heron]

should i be saving calico eggs for anything specific? i am about to blow 250 on coal lol

[drowsy steeple]

brb updating the calc

[gray oriole]

magic rock candy on the last day

otherwise whatever looks good I guess, but coal is certainly a choice I guess

[mystic heron]

oooo id rather go rock candy lol, thank you

[rich trellis]

whoops, max luck day =+14.25

[mystic heron]

and harvey is here at the festival- is there an option for him to heal me?

[gray oriole]

luck and daily luck are not the same

[gray oriole]

eat another meal from the chef

[rich trellis]

oh okay

[sacred river]

You need to die in SC first before he tends to you

[mystic heron]

got it, brb

[sacred river]

You don't lose any items or gold but do lose calico eggs

[gray oriole]

.

[rich trellis]

+13 Taylor swift lucky number easter egg detected

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[gray oriole]

man literally offering unlimited meals that give full heal + energy + buffs and u opt to go die instead?

[tough remnant]

Would be pretty doable TBH, but really not worth it

[gray oriole]

anyway

[tough remnant]

The rod switching method is only useful in a handful of locations

[gray oriole]

30.93% jelly rate and 67% bite rate reduction vs 50% jelly rate I guess

[drowsy steeple]

just need the state change equation for (fish || jelly) between Next Catch and Long Term

[gray oriole]

this is just deluxe bait to clarify

[drowsy steeple]

how many ms does it take to pull the fish out of the water

[gray oriole]

more realistically if you're going preserving anyway for target bait shenanigans you probably might as well bring spinners too and hit the 0.5s cap on bit time

or well actually lower depth increases bite time doesn't it

whatever the bite time is at 0 depth with bait + x2 spinner

[tough remnant]

You need to use the Long Term prediction for this. The Next Catch mode is only really useful for rod switching calculations

[rich trellis]

btw why are yall calculating jelly? is it useful more money making early game?

[gray oriole]

no

we're just being silly

[tough remnant]

Not at all

[rich trellis]

oh lol okay

[gray oriole]

the longer u play a game the more things u run out of to talk about

resulting in the only things left being increasingly nonsensical and silly scenarios

like minmaxing jelly rates at endgame

[drowsy steeple]

it's in my bio

[rich trellis]

the minmaxxers yearn for more things

[gray oriole]

sometimes u learn new stuff that literally no one ever knew in pursuit of minmaxing theoretical scenarios

[rich trellis]

okay thankuu

[mystic heron]

just learned that carrots have te same healing as cauliflower

[gray oriole]

carrots r pretty good

[mystic heron]

if only we could do cheesey carroits

[tough remnant]

Basically, take the ratio of Jelly to Trash in Next Catch option, multiply the Trash ratio by 1+1/Fish_Chance from the Bad Seed option, then turn that ratio back into a probability

[rich trellis]

have anyone calculated whats the maximum speed possible

[drowsy steeple]

ok this seems to be correct

and max luck is increased to 13

deploying now

[rich trellis]

nixe

[drowsy steeple]

qi seasoning affects triple shot right

oh it excluded speed buffs

[rich trellis]

oh well rip

[drowsy steeple]

so +0.5 from books +2 +however many it is from carrot horse

6.6+2.5+0.9 = 10

10.1 with flooring lmao

[rich trellis]

wiki says flooring dont apply to horse

[drowsy steeple]

10 it is

[rich trellis]

+savage ring +blessing +gokden spur

[drowsy steeple]

@gray oriole I've adjusted max luck to 13 if you want to try it out
edit: damn freudian slip

[drowsy steeple]

those never apply when riding a horse, no?

[rich trellis]

oh idk that

[drowsy steeple]

just from the virtue of not being able to ride a horse in the mines

[gray oriole]

still 8 for me

nvm

[drowsy steeple]

reload

[gray oriole]

had to refresh a few more times

fun

[rich trellis]

me when secret woods

there should be a jelly tournament in a day

[drowsy steeple]

ok then that's 11 and 14 for a very short while after slaying a monster with crit

[rich trellis]

nyoom

[whole tangle]

So base speed is 5
Desert festival meal, Savage Ring, Blessing of Speed Golden Spur Calico Statue speed boost, Way of the wind part 1 and 2 then food then drink buff, and add .1 for flooring which can happen if you warp somewhere to it but not really pheasable.

The horse to my understanding isn't effected by way of the wind pt 1 and 2, or any of the combat buffs so not really worth trying to use but someone did calculate the horse stuff for ya.

5+1+2+.5+1+1+.25+.25+1+1+.1=13.1 speed?

I think that's the largest speed but thinking i'm missing something.

[mystic heron]

is there a way to break trees without an axe? am stuck after warping home from desert fest, with no axe, and a sapling is blocking my path

[mystic heron]

and it late

[drowsy steeple]

bomb

[whole tangle]

bombs can. Though not sure if you want to drop too many large bombs next ot all that

[mystic heron]

tried a little one. i'll go bigger

[drowsy steeple]

use the small bombs it makes no difference

[whole tangle]

you need to use like. 3-4 of them i think?

[drowsy steeple]

just use a lot of them

[woven tusk]

May need to pave that area with flooring tiles to prevent trees from planting new saplings there

[mystic heron]

jfc im gonna pass out, no time. rip

[woven tusk]

Curses, you've been foliaged again

Trees have betrayed Treefrog

They got their Treevenge

[mystic heron]

f please

[drowsy steeple]

new vocabulary get! "foliaged"

[mystic heron]

least i got gil's hat today

[woven tusk]

Technically "foiled" would have still been a pun but it's used so uncommonly that I have doubts it would be noticed

Made like a tree and...
Couldn't leave.

[mystic heron]

^^^

[drowsy steeple]

couldn't leaf would've landed better

[rich trellis]

oh yeah i missed the calico boost

nice one

[woven tusk]

I can't believe I have to explain the joke

[drowsy steeple]

I've never heard of that phrase my entire life

[mystic heron]

or 'make like a tree and fall out'

[mystic heron]

cause in fall. leaf leaves. leaf falls

[mystic heron]

fall out. get it

[woven tusk]

Certainly makes more sense than autumning out

[drowsy steeple]

hate to use the english is my third language card but english is my third language

[mystic heron]

skill issue

[whole tangle]

and now you are learning the joys of English language sayings and puns. Glad you can expand another language. :p

[mystic heron]

drop your favorite english phrase/pun/saying vvvv

• call me butter cause i'm on a roll

[drowsy steeple]

that can be a bad pickup line... "are you a butter girl?"

[whole tangle]

Break a leg
By the skin of your teeth
Barking up the wrong tree
Bite the bullet
Beat around the bush
Call it a day
Break the ice
Birds of a feather flocking together

can't pick one

[mystic heron]

love skin of your teeth. so accurate, as teeth don't even have skin

[mystic heron]

only one magic rock candy should be available, right?

[gray oriole]

yes

[woven tusk]

For some reason I imagined carpentry nails when "tooth and nail" was mentioned, for years. It was only fairly recently when I looked at the phrase again and realized it's about being desperate enough to bite and scratch in a fight.

[drowsy steeple]

kids named tooth and nail:

[whole tangle]

you know, i thought it was meaning that you'd rather eat nails than be beaten in a fight but yea,that makes more sense

[drowsy steeple]

ok challenge bait with water blessing is pretty ridiculous

[silk vortex]

What animal is the best to give golden animal cracker to?

[whole tangle]

Golden chicken, but realisitically, i think Sheep or fish ponds of certain varieties have a very good option to give it to. But in the end it depends on what you really want. Profit, pigs do slightly better than even sheep or other animals that can accept golden crackers. Dino is also a good option.

[silk vortex]

It says it doesn't work on pigs, I will give it to dino, Thanks!

[whole tangle]

Tried to imply that. realized it didn't come out that way after rereading. Sorry! but ye. ostriches could be interesting never have done it but 🤷‍♂️ could be cool for 2 eggs a week instead of 1.

[woven tusk]

I thought Dino was the second worst animal in the game

Just ahead of Ducks if you have the artifact price catalogue, and actually dead last without

If you need money, you give it to a cow or chicken or ostrich. If you are a Shepherd rather than an Artisan, give it to a sheep.
Otherwise it may be better used for utility rather than money (Rabbit, Fish Pond)

[whole tangle]

Dino Mayo gives pretty good with artisan. 1,120 per egg put into a mayo machine and it produces decently fast.

[woven tusk]

Once per week is not decently fast

One week of chicken egg mayo is worth more than that

[whole tangle]

It's been a whil;e since i've used dinno's thought it was 1 every 2 days?

[molten turret]

every 7 days

[whole tangle]

I am definately not a great source. Oof

Learn something new today though so not a total loss

[woven tusk]

And also, mayo is worth less than the raw egg if you have the artifact price book

[molten turret]

damn

[woven tusk]

Dino eggs are funny and Dinos make Demetrius spit his coffee out (and give you the rest because he's too shook to finish it), but they're lousy as a cash cow

[whole tangle]

Yeah, normally i do ancient fruit wine for money and don't really like doing animals too hard.

[woven tusk]

Then yeah, in your case I'd recommend crackering for utility instead of money

Moar rabbit feet and moar funny fish pond stuff

Lava Eel pond, Blobfish pond, Stingray pond

[whole tangle]

I enjoy fish ponding a lot. lava eel, midnight carp, flounder. (Dislike collecting jelly regularly)

[woven tusk]

...Hm. I forgot to include "Commission Robin to build something (pond or cellar)" into my notes for my next day

[woven tusk]

Certainly valid

[whole tangle]

heh, just had prismatic jelly drop twice from a prismatic slime. Gonna be gone by the end ot he night but still funny to see a double drop on it.

[woven tusk]

Ha ha ha Burglar Ring go brrrrr(glar)

[whole tangle]

could've also been the monster book but not sure if they work.

Wonder if a double proc could do 4 prismatic jelly. Interesting thinking...

[pine mural]

what are you guys ||mushroom log layout||

[hidden ore]

late to the party but "...and Bob's your uncle"might have to be my favorite fixed phrase in english

[whole tangle]

It's been so long since i've heard this one 😂 at least 4 years.

[hidden ore]

grand innit tho?

[whole tangle]

Haven't integrated it into my farming setup. sorry don't know.

[whole tangle]

Very much so.

[woven tusk]

Purple for mystic tree, brown for shroom log, white for empty (walkable) tile

[ashen lichen]

id assume js having 4 groups of 10 diff trees for each mushroom ?

[woven tusk]

However, according to the same person, you may wish to stagger the rows because of funny rounding errors causing the logs to generate a better ratio of purple shrooms if there is not a multiple of four purple trees nearby

[hidden ore]

random, I don't place them for efficiency, just for looks (next to mystic trees) on the farm, and making sure that my ability to move around between the various buildings is unimpeded. in the railroad where I have trees lining the area, the logs go in the empty tiles between the two trees on either side. there are actual efficient layouts though around

[woven tusk]

Staggering them will make it no longer 16 trees per log, which means more purples but slightly worse avg quality

Could also do something with oak (morels, resin, can keep moss for vastly better shroom quality or harvest moss because moss) or pine (tar is not needed in the quantities that resin is, but you can get chanterelles instead)

[hidden ore]

my railroad trees are oak (needed initially for kegs, now they are just decoration), so the logs up there produce mainly morel

[proven snow]

These are NOT new update spoilers

[rich trellis]

wasted 250 staircases and 1 magic rock and got 11 prismos. what's the benchmark to restart/not restart?

[hidden ore]

it entirely depends on you. do you have a steady supply of staircases? can you put the prismatic shards to good use? are you happy with the amount of iridium?

[drowsy steeple]

hmm maybe 3 or 4 iridium per staircase?

5 or 6 is typical for me

[hidden ore]

bear in mind the first 50 or so floors are likelyto have had nothing

[drowsy steeple]

you skip them anyway

[hidden ore]

I mean, those 50 staircases are just a net loss, you write it off

[rich trellis]

18 crystalariums, all tools are enchanted, all friendships maxed, iridium idk maybe i need more

[hidden ore]

the rock candy is not a big deal, take 3 of the shards and go get a new one next thursday

[rich trellis]

okay ill restart

[drowsy steeple]

you always skip a certain amount of floors anyway, be it 50 or 2000

[hidden ore]

that's why it really amounts to whether you have easy influx of staircases or it takes some time

[drowsy steeple]

that's only a factor for at which floor you start mining

[hidden ore]

sounds like you could use more crystalaria for jade tbh, 18 total is not a lot

[rich trellis]

yeah i havent been grinding for more crystalariums

[drowsy steeple]

my strategy is to make as many rods as possible before fall y1

[rich trellis]

btw ty yall for the answer

[drowsy steeple]

because you're always short on batts

[sacred river]

Just grind iridium bats fr

[drowsy steeple]

I don't find that particularly effective

I only get like 2 a day

[rich trellis]

im not short on bats im short on gold bars lol

[hidden ore]

and you can't guarantee getting the solar panel recipe in any sort of timely fashion

[rich trellis]

ik i just need to buy it from clint but hmmm

[hidden ore]

wut, gold? get moneys or get mining, that's an easy fix

[sacred river]

Monster musk and dangerous SC

[drowsy steeple]

at the time haven't unlocked both

I'm in spring y2 rn and qi keeps giving the trash quests

[sacred river]

This is without monster musk

[drowsy steeple]

but I've got monster musk now

[sacred river]

Monster musk will turn dangerous SC into a warzone

It's probably internally coded to have double the monster spawn rates as normal sc

[drowsy steeple]

I'd do that once qi gives me the quest for it

[hidden ore]

that's 9 iridium bats in just that one tiny area, not bad at all

[sacred river]

10 actually

[drowsy steeple]

bruh that's 11

[hidden ore]

no 10

I don't see the 11th. but 10 for sure

[drowsy steeple]

above the buff icons

[sacred river]

I literally jumped when I saw them
Like they were waiting for me or something

[drowsy steeple]

there's a head that's barely visible

[sacred river]

Ooh yeah

[hidden ore]

wow good eyes

[sacred river]

I didn't notice that

Nice

That made the situation worse

At the depth each were dealing 50+ damage

[hidden ore]

what was your weapon?

[drowsy steeple]

anyway why can't I catch legend IIs at night

[sacred river]

Infinity gavel ofc

[drowsy steeple]

they're supposed to ignore time requirements

[sacred river]

Luck issue probably

[drowsy steeple]

I've gotten like 20 casts in with targeted bait and curiosity lure

that can't be a fluke

[sacred river]

Maybe there's a hard cap

[final spindle]

What are the benefits of green rain?

[drowsy steeple]

hmm

[final spindle]

aside from moss

[sacred river]

Lots of moss and fiber

[drowsy steeple]

code dive time

[hidden ore]

go grab your scythe and go to cindersap and see

[sacred river]

Breaking the weeds also gives foraging exp suprisingly

Good time to get level up foraging

[final spindle]

should i go while it's raining then?

[hidden ore]

yes, go that day and spend the entire day

chop the bare stalk trees too when you see them

this game at a later point expects you to have a lot of moss fora certain crafting recipe so don't be a slacker

[final spindle]

stalk trees?

[sacred river]

Green rain is also the perfect time to amass materials for the infamous statue of blessings

So make use of it

[hidden ore]

'bare stalk' I mean there are not leaves, there is a smooth trunk that has no bark

[final spindle]

yeah I've been regularly trimming the forest for moss since i know it's used in a lot of stuff

ohhh

[sacred river]

Basically looks like a beanstalk

That drops fiddlehead ferns

[hidden ore]

you might get a good seed or a few from those trees too, save to replant later

[drowsy steeple]

ok I've concluded that legend ii farming isn't worth it

too much setup time for not that much amount of money

[hidden ore]

eh all the late game stuff is "do what entertains you" really

[sacred river]

Tbh it's not every week you get the quest either

It's a good side income but definitely nowhere near as good as something like pigs or honey

[drowsy steeple]

deep SC is still unparalleled

[woven tusk]

Targeted bait does next to nothing for legendaries, including Extended Family

[drowsy steeple]

it does a lot actually, check my calc

[woven tusk]

Did your results match your calculations?

[drowsy steeple]

more or less

[woven tusk]

Let me go check it out then

[sacred river]

Mod

[final spindle]

thankies

[whole tangle]

I've honestly enjoyed Son of Crimson spam as it's a bit easier to get a perfect catch with that with challenge bait. i've been able to do it decently reliably with Cork(or double if you have it.) and a normal pudding. Granted it's not the fastest way to make cash still a fun alternative.

[drowsy steeple]

what's quark

[whole tangle]

Cork, i'm terrible at spelling

[woven tusk]

Spring (not that it matters), Extended Family checked, Curiosity Lure and Legend II targeted bait, fishing in the mountains... And Legend II is not even on the list?

[drowsy steeple]

fishing level?

[woven tusk]

10

[drowsy steeple]

gimme the full screenshot

[woven tusk]

Wait, did Legend II erroneously have a rain req flagged for this

[drowsy steeple]

no it doesn't

[woven tusk]

Nnnnope, toggling that did not make it appear

[drowsy steeple]

can you try refreshing

[woven tusk]

Sure

[drowsy steeple]

maybe some leftover code was cached

because everything is handled client-side

[woven tusk]

Refreshed, reselected the lake and other settings, and still nothing

[drowsy steeple]

hmm how bout incognito mode

I'm literally matching your exact settings and I'm seeing Legend II

[woven tusk]

I refreshed two more times and now I see it. Wtf, Firefox

[drowsy steeple]

I need to resolve that but I'm not familiar with client side caching 😦

[woven tusk]

So let's see.
According to this, the Legend II hook rate goes from 20% to 34.26%
Assuming the bait maker has an equal distribution from 5-10 bait per fish sacrificed, that's 13.33% of your catches sacrificed for bait, bringing your net Legend IIs hauled in to 20.93%

Oof

[drowsy steeple]

preserving makes it better than wild bait

[woven tusk]

Think I'd use Deluxe Bait as the comparison, for faster bites. But noted

(Also for the easier minigame, as I'm not good enough to consistently haul in lava eels without trap bobbers. Let alone the Legend II.)

[green dagger]

i think i found an bug

or it might be found already

the raccoons bundle says they want coconut jelly and dried blueberries. i've had dried apricots in my inventory and when i placed it in the box it turned into dried blueberries

or it counted as dried blueberries

[quick rock]

are there any new infos for console for the patch?

[gray oriole]

Raccoon quest only checks item type yes

So if it asks for dried fruit it’ll take any fruit

[woven tusk]

I guess it suggests an item rather than requires that specific item

[gray oriole]

Same with smoked fish, veggie juice, pickled items, dried mushrooms, jelly

[woven tusk]

Hell, are my raccoons ready...? Ugh, I absolutely won't have time to check in the next two days

[green dagger]

oh right

[gray oriole]

I think the ui is just poorly conveys the info

[drowsy steeple]

fuck I just dived to level 200 and realized I didn't have any blessings

reset time

[astral vine]

the racoons calling me dumb in my language....

[drowsy steeple]

get used to it bobo

(I mean bobo in raccoon language not in tagalog)

[woven tusk]

I must not abuse this knowledge against my Phillipine acquaintances

Maybe the Raccoon just really likes Wumbus World

The yellow Strange Doll is also this guy

[still plume]

Which of these is better on money making in the first year? Fish smoker or dehydrator?

[drowsy steeple]

those are completely different things

[gray oriole]

Just get both lul

[final spindle]

say whaa

[woven tusk]

Happens when you get two prize tickets or 50 days in the valley, whichever is first

They pop out of nowhere while doing most things. Open them like a Geode at Clint's

[still plume]

I know its just im in a dilemma I cant decide which is hard to grind for

[gray oriole]

?

[woven tusk]

Where does his body fit though

[neat mulch]

He's squishy /j

[woven tusk]

Maybe it's a remote-controlled plane with a likeness of his face mounted on

[woven tusk]

I don't get it. Do you have the materials to craft one but not the other? Then get the one you can craft.

[final spindle]

bro got that shrip neck

[woven tusk]

I'd be surprised if you already have Cave Jelly while having this dilemma

[neat mulch]

LMFAO

[woven tusk]

Pretty sure I'd hurt myself if I tried tilting it like that. Just another of his mysterious powers,,,

[final spindle]

god green rain is so stressful

[gray oriole]

?

[final spindle]

i'm out here runnning around madly tryna get everything 😭

[woven tusk]

If it's Y1 I recommend playing through the day twice

Once to check in on all the townies and seeing their reactions. Then reset and play through again to actually grab as much loot as you can

Apparently this is also the one day per year that you can chop trees in pelican town?

[uneven lake]

willy broke my baitmaker, what a jerk.

[final spindle]

is fiddlehead fern used in anything now or something?

[woven tusk]

It was always part of fiddlehead risotto, and is decent food besides

Or can be sold for money

You can think of this as sort of a very insane equivalent to salmonberry and blackberry season for summer

[final spindle]

green rain year 1 haul

[verbal surge]

Idk if its a new update thing per se but its definitely a spoiler, is there a way to check the world data to see what gemstones i need for the island birds? It never seems to rain there on my save

[uneven lake]

Stardew predictor can check for gem birds.

[woven tusk]

I think you can also bring a rain totem and use it on the island if you want to do it more fairly

[verbal surge]

Honestly i kinda hate the whole golden walnut puzzles, and i tried brute forcing the thing, but im in winter so it would take me a long time to get a rain totem

[atomic sage]

how do you buy a full stack with 1 click again?

[final spindle]

this fucking guy lmao

[neat mulch]

ctrl + shift + 1 + right click

[atomic sage]

thx

[final spindle]

it's also hilarious how robin's supposed to be freaking out but she's out here working on my shed lmfao

[woven tusk]

Contrast with Leah's reaction

[woven tusk]

Yeeeaaahhhh Robin was upgrading my house during my first green rain

And then complained about Demetrius running around outside, when she got home the next day

[drowsy steeple]

latest dive results, 420 staircases => 3333 iridium is a pretty good conversion rate

[maiden fiber]

Cute outfit!

[maiden fiber]

Ayyyy….

[mental sail]

the sign mentions your stuff would be in lewis' found stuff box, probably worth checking there if you want it back

[gaunt summit]

Yeah, the Lost and Found box

Next to the money thing and Divorce-inator™️

[uneven lake]

it's probably not since willy ran into it and broke it.

yeh, i figured.