archived-update-spoilers

[native rain]

Get 999 of each

[tough remnant]

Targeted bait boosts spawn rate. Legendary Fish don't use spawn rate.
Targeted bait searches through the first 3 fish in the list to pass their RNG checks for the target fish. Legendary Fish are always first on the list, so they always get checked regardless.
Targeted Bait loops around the list a second time if it doesn't get 3 fish on the first pass, giving a second chance for fish early on the list. This can hit Legendary fish. It's the only part which does.

[native rain]

Then drink all of it

[gray oriole]

wdym no

[woven tusk]

Thank you

[mellow atlas]

that would be fun if there was a drunken state in the game

[fossil magnet]

alr thx

are the npc weapons any good?

[broken portal]

i dont think i am understanding

why doesnt the second one work?

[native rain]

1.7 should add the ability to pass out in a pool of your own vomit in the middle of the forest at 1:20 PM

Should also increase alcohol variety

Vodka, Sake, stuff like that

[broken portal]

potatos and rice in kegs

[gray oriole]

when the fish drop table is created it shuffles the order and then goes down the list doing dice roll for each fish

[broken portal]

tipsy exists i guess

[gray oriole]

whichever fish passes their roll first gets selected

[native rain]

Pam doesn’t deserve to drink potato juice

She needs a real vodka

[gray oriole]

legendary fish don't get shuffled, they're always at the top

[broken portal]

but wouldnt it give it more chances to pass the roll?

[gray oriole]

it still only rolls once

the 2nd effect of targetted bait is that if the fish you're targetting isn't at the top of the list, it lets it bypass the line to roll first if it's close to the top

[woven tusk]

Well, trash is at the bottom of the list and always passes
So you're counting on no more than one fish on the list passing until the list is checked the second time

[gray oriole]

legendary fish are always at the front of the line

aka legendary fish already always do what the 2nd effect of targetted bait is for

[strong geode]

when will i get my new neighbours?

[gray oriole]

10% per night after fixing greenhouse

[strong geode]

ah

so

i need the greenhouse

[gray oriole]

yes

[woven tusk]

Yes because your neighbor is currently living in its ruins

[strong geode]

ohh

[gray oriole]

is that how it works?

[robust spoke]

yea

[fossil magnet]

best ways to grind xp for mastery stuff?

[robust spoke]

you see it when the junimos are fixing the green house

[gray oriole]

go skull caverning

oh right i forgot about that cutscene

[robust spoke]

bombing skull caverns/farming

farmings still decent even if it got nerfed

farming is just that broken for xp

[fossil magnet]

alrighty thankyou

[woven tusk]

IIRC even before 1.6, there was flavor text about a raccoon living in the ruins if you examine it
In 1.6 you literally see it pop out of a crack in the floor and run off when it's being repaired

[robust spoke]

CA planned years in advance

[tough remnant]

Second effect is basically meant to benefit fish in case they get randomly shuffled late in the list of possible catches. They only need to be one of the first 3 successful hooks, rather than the first successful hook, which means they're likely to get checked even if they're later in the list. However, Legendaries are always first on the list, so they're not at risk of not being checked.

[hidden ore]

sure. first off it gives an opportunity to do skull cavern runs without losing money or items if you pass out; you can get a great food buff from the chef that stacks with your existing food buffs instead of overwriting them for the run; the eggs you collect can be turned in for various exclusive items from the npc booths, or for some cool desert themed furniture like the calico cat statue from the calico egg marchant (who also sells stuff like mystery boxes and spicy eels if you want them)

[gray oriole]

you get a cool cactus

[fossil magnet]

ah okay that's cool

[woven tusk]

Emily's makeover booth has some exclusive items

[woven tusk]

Or is it a cactis

[gray oriole]

the most important thing is the 🌵

[fossil magnet]

oh my god why didn't someone tell me earlier, I'm going right now!

[broken portal]

also the villager booths can have some cool stuff

[broken portal]

i think i get it?

[robust spoke]

desert festival is also the only way to get magic hair dye apparently

[woven tusk]

The thing that bothers me is that it overlaps with Salmonberry season and I think also the pot-o'-gold day

[hidden ore]

yes that irks me no end

if you play the game in even a semi-immersive way, then "oh salmonberries aren't useful after year one" isn't really the point, you would go out anyways, and having the festival on the same days conflicts

[robust spoke]

Meanwhile most sdv players trying to maximize profits

[woven tusk]

Having a zillion 29HP (iridium salmonberry) healing items is potentially useful.

[gray oriole]

in one stack specifically

[mellow atlas]

to get full artisan collection i have to visit travelling cart every friday and sunday to get regular juice jam and pickles....

if they are obtainable

[robust spoke]

Or just make it yourself

[gray oriole]

like yeah I could have a lot of fish if I needed it, but it's spread across a bunch of stacks annoying

[robust spoke]

That’s a option

[mellow atlas]

how?

[broken portal]

but if the desert festival is before salmonberry season, you could farm the foraging books for more berries per bush

[hidden ore]

see I look out for profits but I don't minmax everything.

[robust spoke]

The cc bundles takes any juice/jam

[woven tusk]

They said regular (i.e. typeless) juice/jam/pickles

[robust spoke]

Doesn’t have to be regular

[narrow parrot]

So, does time still work like...

[woven tusk]

They're collecting, not CCing

[gray oriole]

I don't think he's talking about CC

[robust spoke]

Oh

[mellow atlas]

yeah

[robust spoke]

He’s collecting

[narrow parrot]

An hour counts as 100 minutes while you're sleeping for artisanal stuff like kegs?

[gray oriole]

pretty sure he's trying to collect 1 of every item

[robust spoke]

Then nevermind

[woven tusk]

Specifically 2-6AM only now

[mellow atlas]

i got typeless wine from travellig cart

[hidden ore]

at least 1 of every item istead of 999...

[woven tusk]

Sleeping early no longer speeds it up faster than that

[mellow atlas]

and typeless honey from deconstructor

[narrow parrot]

Okay, so those specifically.

I feel like that's a nice compromise.

[woven tusk]

IIRC it was 1.4 that changed the sleeping time machine

[tulip fossil]

@tough remnant I just realized you need insane luck for Spring 3 Year 2 perfection there’s exactly 9 recipes from the community board you only get 9 quests by the that day meaning you need every community board to give one of those 9 quests and the final one to be doable in 3 days aka island ingredients can be a problem there

[humble cloud]

What's the best mastery in your guys' opinion?

[broken portal]

farming

[woven tusk]

Depends heavily on what you're up to

[mellow atlas]

i guess i collected every dehydrated fruit?

[woven tusk]

E.g. I'm in the middle of winter and my Ginger Island crop is nowhere near ready, so Farming Mastery isn't the play just yet

[mellow atlas]

27 fruit + 5 mushrooms

[broken portal]

qi fruit?

[mellow atlas]

yeah

and the screenshot if somebody is curios about the stats

[tulip fossil]

999 guy needing 5 stacks of qi fruit for that

[broken portal]

not that hard

just get a few seed makers

[tulip fossil]

Still an annoying quest

[broken portal]

i mean thats the entire challenge in general

[tough remnant]

Yeah, perfect request board is a seeding requirement for "One Year Perfection"

[mellow atlas]

it is hard if you have no place on your farm

[desert stag]

Is there a Fish Tank that have 5+ Fish?

[broken portal]

aquatic sanctuary

[desert stag]

from where?

[broken portal]

qi walnut room

[desert stag]

Perfect tyvm

[hidden ore]

ok so the really bad item to get is the... 999 statues of blessing, requiring.. 999 stacks of sap and fiber and stone ("only" 333 stacks of moss)

[mellow atlas]

do i miss any type of mayo?

[broken portal]

fiber and stone you can buy

[hidden ore]

you got the ostrich one and the duck one in there?

[woven tusk]

I see duck mayo

I thought ostrich just gave large amounts of regular mayo?

[mellow atlas]

i think ostrich is regular

[broken portal]

ostrich just gives 10 mayo

[hidden ore]

does ostrich convert to its own type? maybe not

[mellow atlas]

i have duck

[hidden ore]

right, then that's all of them I think

[mellow atlas]

nice

[narrow parrot]

Yeah it's 10 of the quality of the egg.

[mellow atlas]

thanks

[woven tusk]

I think ostrich mayo is the silver and iridium regular mayo there

[broken portal]

ostrich gives 10 mayo of its quality

[gray oriole]

is this animal products

or just food

[mellow atlas]

it is artisan based on animals

[broken portal]

truffle oil

[gray oriole]

cloth?

[hidden ore]

sap otoh...

[mellow atlas]

yeah

i gues

s

[swift bay]

good luck getting iridium quality regular milk :s

[mellow atlas]

okay so now it would look like that

[gray oriole]

oh yeah truffle oil

[mellow atlas]

it is easy

but it is not artisan good

[swift bay]

ok

you forgot the other qualities of cheese

[swift bay]

thats large milk

[woven tusk]

I think they mean small milk

[mellow atlas]

oh

[swift bay]

ye lol

[native rain]

Small iridium milk isn’t hard at all

[mellow atlas]

yeah it is easy

my little goats still give me iridium small milk

but i have 0 cows

[swift bay]

ok

[woven tusk]

Can't we just pour half of it into a smaller bottle

[humble cloud]

fair enough

[mellow atlas]

like 2 years ago i sold them all

[humble cloud]

i see, thanks

[hidden ore]

but that's goat milk which is a separate item

[native rain]

Empty bottles aren’t real, everyone knows a bottle demanifests as soon as it becomes empty

Demanifest is a word right

Spellcheck doesn’t seem to think so

[hidden ore]

I don't see how you get them to be happy enough to produce iridium quality without it also being a large milk though

[mellow atlas]

aigh i did it

[gray oriole]

Use shepherd to boost quality without also boosting the happiness check

[native rain]

I get most from that point in time when they’re producing both small and large

[mellow atlas]

idk but sometime it happens

i saw them a lot

[hidden ore]

hm possible, I've never chosen that profession

[mellow atlas]

i got stack of gold ancient fruit but now i thought about getting a stack of iridium ancient fruit...

but i will need a lot of qi fertilizer

if that thing is obtainable

damn it is obtainable

idk maybe i will not focus on getting a full stack

the one stack of iridium crops which is the most expensive is stack of iridium sweet gem berries i guess

it's even more hard to get then ancient fruit or starfruit

[woven tusk]

Hyper speed gro for seeds and then deluxe fertilizer to actually grow it

But it would still take a very long time

[hidden ore]

seedmaker and hope for more than 2 seeds on average but yeah, slow no matter what

[narrow parrot]

Alright, Angler or Pirate?

Which is better in 1.6?

I'm going with Pirate.

[slender wing]

Depends on what you're going for mostly

Later game, pirate is probably more beneficial to you

[gray oriole]

I like pirate earlygame too

[slender wing]

With fishing being buffed especially, I would personally choose angler early game

[gray oriole]

Mostly so i can get stuff from deep mine floors ahead of time

[spiral bronze]

I think late game angler is better, you can make insane profits in 1.6 with the smoker

[hidden ore]

the sole trapper in the crowd looks around sadly

[slender wing]

Especially if you activate the Legendary fish Qi quest, angler is insane profits in just 3 days from fishing

[spiral bronze]

pirate is the best way to get animal crackers as I'm aware though (I hadn't actually farmed animal crackers yet so idk)

[gray oriole]

Its the most reliable way yeah

[strong geode]

nice

[hushed hare]

do mushroom logs work outside the farm, lets say the Spa area, or the Desert?

[neat sentinel]

why do you have four hundred milk

[gray oriole]

Yes

[gray oriole]

Autograbber and not checking barn

[polar valve]

2nd day of marriage and this is how she spends it
said she had something to do in town this day

[fossil magnet]

how do the cows give exclusively iridium if you weren't checking on them?

oh does blue grass make up for it

[gray oriole]

Autopetter?

[tidal obsidian]

yeah

[green lagoon]

What’s that box with the ? On it in your inventory

[hazy garden]

a golden mystery box

[green lagoon]

Ohh

[hidden ore]

what's that spoiler mark doing in the channel? 😆

[fossil magnet]

oh, is that vanilla..?
I've not seen such a thing before

[hidden ore]

yes they are vanilla and not 1.6 items either, but hard to get unless you go the joja route

[fossil magnet]

ohh okay

thx

[hidden ore]

if you do want them: skull caverns, treasure chests, low rate though. but also now, golden mystery boxes, still a very low rate.

[fossil magnet]

I see

I still need to do level 100 for skull cavern so I guess I'll hope I get those too while doing that

[gray oriole]

Hard mode mines drops them too

[hazy garden]

Lol my bad I thought I was in another channel

[hidden ore]

you'll likely have to make a bunch of runs, but just go on lucky days with lots of luck buffs to maximize treasure rooms, and sooner or later

[hazy garden]

Paranoïa ;-;

[hidden ore]

with enough servers and channels open it's hard to keep track, totally understandable

[mellow atlas]

[desert stag]

Is there somewhere to find all costumes in the game?

[gray oriole]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Tailoring

[desert stag]

even the stuff we get as drop?

[gray oriole]

Oh the table is gone weird

Not sure one exists rn then

Unless u wanna dig thru game files

[pine barn]

tried to capture the present train going through my snowy tree farm, but should have gone with the in-game screenshot instead of through Steam 😄

It dropped 3 regular mystery boxes

[true thunder]

i need help finding the trash book

[gray oriole]

Go right of clint’s house and hug the fence

[frozen minnow]

the racoon 😭

[desert stag]

Lol

[neat sail]

Just edited the wiki for the first time (minor edit, adding a link to the locations salmon can be caught in), however I went to make the same change in the other languages and noticed that they hadn't even been updated to include the waterfalls, and I could not edit it

Anyone experienced in editing the wiki know how to edit other languages?

[formal bronze]

What’s the best way to make money in y1 that isn’t crops

[dry lance]

Fishing or clay farming I think

[dry lance]

Or sc runs

[formal bronze]

I thought Clay farming got nerfed

fishing seems to be a crazy time sink for the money you get being just okay

[delicate magnet]

Just a setting that’s needs to be on before you create the world if you want to clay farm. If it isn’t on you can’t clay farm

[formal bronze]

I guess caverns and iridium bars are what’s up

[dry lance]

Pretty sure it’s what they do in speed runs

[south sand]

The game really told me to go make even more money

this is my second trinket btw, my first trinket is level 3 parrot egg kekw

[mellow atlas]

yeaaah got it

[crimson halo]

what do yall think?

[pine barn]

that you actually make more money using starfruits for wine, but it's still cool

I use my pineapples in the dehydrator

[quiet ore]

legend fish roe

Is this rare?

[crimson halo]

i know, i need money fast though

[pine barn]

but surely buying all the starfruit seeds is eating into your cash a lot quicker?

[south sand]

rare enough I guess(?) since they can't be placed on pond the only way to get their roe is by the fishing treasure chest (I got midnight squid roe with the same way btw)

[pine barn]

I got son of crimsonfish roe. aged it up but still haven't sold it

[buoyant field]

finally got all my infinity stones

[nimble turtle]

infinity stone?

[frozen minnow]

why does the travelling cart have this 😭

im so temtped to buy but its so random

[frozen minnow]

the catalogues

[slender wing]

Sells whatever spouse you have

A portrait of them

[crude talon]

ok this date for the wedding is low key kinda perfect since elliott loves/writes books ❤️

[nimble turtle]

nice

[frozen minnow]

thats 30k out of my pocket

[slender wing]

Worth

[buoyant field]

sorry to confuse you, I was making a dumb joke

[nimble turtle]

i was just wondering because i thought you might be using a mod that has infinity stones

[polar wyvern]

any advice on finishing mastery stuff quick?

[buoyant field]

haha fair enough, I'm referring to all the catalogues available in the new update

[nimble turtle]

🙂

[wet geyser]

how can I get trinkets ?

[buoyant field]

monsters will drop them

[nimble turtle]

infinity stones plus prismatic shards to enchant the infinity store would probably be cool

also can you lvl up trinkets with use?

[buoyant field]

ooo

[buoyant field]

I don't think so

[nimble turtle]

dang

[slender wing]

I think rerolling is the only way to make them better

[frozen minnow]

this is so cute

[nimble turtle]

squid fest

[wet geyser]

can you sleep in ginger island?

[buoyant field]

I think you can sleep anywhere with the tent

[wet geyser]

yes, but without tent can you ?

[buoyant field]

I wanna say no, but I'm not sure

[mellow atlas]

regular jam is special

it has no effects

[slender wing]

Farmhouse on GI?

[lusty pecan]

once you get the ginger island farmhouse you can sleep there

[mellow atlas]

Is there a list of every item that could come from artifact spots, i have so much mystic syrup I wanna turn into something useful

[lusty pecan]

(you'll also automatically wake up there if you pass out on ginger island after unlocking it)

[nimble turtle]

treasure totems

[dry lance]

Go to artifact spots on the wiki

[lusty pecan]

there's a list on the wiki for where each artifact can be dug up from: https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Artifacts

[dry lance]

I know tons about artifact spots

I don’t like the treasure totem tho cause it ruins totem% catigory for 1.6

I have to change it to warp totem%

But then 1.6 make gi totem way easier

[lusty pecan]

totem%,, is that just getting all the warp totems + rain totem & treasure totem ?

[dry lance]

Yes that’s totem% warp totem% is that minus rain and treasure

[next kelp]

so im having an issue. i had decorated the entire map(almost every square) as part of a major challenge. took me 400hrs and multiple trips to a hand surgeon - long story. anyways, the trout & squid derby have destroyed the areas i decorated. all other events even new ones like the desert festival, haven't effected any spots. After events everything is set back to normal but with the derbies that is not the case. im not sure if this is something that can be reported and maybe fixed...

[dry lance]

Totem% in 1.5 was lit

Cause you didn’t need to grind foraging exp

[lusty pecan]

i believe the items are sent to the lost & found box?

[swift bay]

how much of it was destroyed? the whole map or just some areas?

[next kelp]

yes, but i cant redecorate the areas because the derbys will destroy the area when the derby happened in, which is annoying because literally no other festivals destory things

[swift bay]

oh man, thats annoying

[lusty pecan]

yeaa,,

[swift bay]

i guess theres nothing you can really do

[lusty pecan]

it does seem like you'll just have to replace the decoration after those festivals which is annoying yeah

[next kelp]

legit sucks. one major thing i hate about this update. lmao i noticed it today on stream and just ended because i needed to have a good long cry lmao

rest of the update is great though so theres that

thank you though!!!! sorry for the bother

[dry lance]

It’s probably worse than the addition of treasure totems

[next kelp]

what are the treasure totems?

[lusty pecan]

now u gotta grind All the xp 😭

[dry lance]

Trash

[next kelp]

fair enough lmao

[dry lance]

I’m just doing warp totem% now

[swift bay]

why? they really helped me complete the museum

[dry lance]

But it takes away the most fun part the rain totems

[dry lance]

They ruin totem%

[swift bay]

oh... idk what that is lol

[lusty pecan]

you get them from foraging mastery and they spawn a ring of artifact spots when u use it (but since they're locked behind mastery it takes quite a while to get to)

[dry lance]

They should just make one like a museum reward or something

Literally any other way than exp

Although it does make sense

But every other totem is accessible with lvl 1 foraging

What’s a cool 1 word way to say warp totem%

Warp%?

I could just say Warptotem%

[lusty pecan]

yea

[dry lance]

Lol I want to get into speedrunning but ever speedrun get changed by 1.6 so I feel like I’m gonna have to restart after the update comes out

[lusty pecan]

ya,, Big update

[dry lance]

Like It even changes banana pudding%

[pine skiff]

sorry, hand surgeon? did you over-exert yourself?

[lusty pecan]

how so? earlier cookout kit im guessing?

[next kelp]

yupp, caused my fybro to flair up and caused a form of carpal tunnel lmao - i played too much in a single month >.<

[lusty pecan]

ouchh ,

[pine skiff]

oh jeez, i hope ur better now lesson learned

[next kelp]

yeah, im kinda better. but still gotta wear wrist braces any time i use tech

[mellow atlas]

Not even 10 levels in

[pine skiff]

can i ask why didnt you stop or something? or were you too far in that you wanted to see it through

[next kelp]

i was doing a challenge for stream. i had a month left to decorate and it wass crunch time. plus was a good distraction from other stuff... but was a horrible idea

[pine skiff]

ohh

im glad youre in recovery, its like a canon event lmao

[pearl vortex]

if i complete the cc, can i still get the joja catalogue?

[woven tusk]

Yes, the Traveling Cart will start having a chance to carry it each week

[pearl vortex]

ohh nicee

[mellow atlas]

Help shes been here all day

[uncut merlin]

is this where I need to fish for the goby?

[lusty pecan]

yep!

[uncut merlin]

thanks

got it!

[wise granite]

where do i ship these

[woven tusk]

Any shipping crate, no?

[neat mulch]

^^ Just ship em

Doesn't matter which

[manic notch]

lewis will personally deliver them to her i guess

[woven tusk]

...And pay you for them as normal, with the special order's reward money being on top

[wise granite]

so the one in pierres shop is okay?

[woven tusk]

No?

[wise granite]

or the

[neat mulch]

Lewis lugging 100 pineapples 💀

[wise granite]

pls JSJJSS

[woven tusk]

Isn't there literally a shipping crate on both of your farms

[wise granite]

oh it goe sthere

thank you SOB

[woven tusk]

And possibly some Mini Shipping Crates from other orders

[neat mulch]

I don't think I've ever used the mini ones

They get thrown into a chest - never to see the light of day

[woven tusk]

If the pineapples make it to the overnight money summary, they've been shipped

This includes the night of the final day, according to the wiki. Credit will be awarded, and the order successfully completed, even then.

[mellow atlas]

nice i realised it is a cooking thing and not an artisan good

[frosty bough]

Has anyone run into Demetrius' quest "Tastes Like Chicken"? I don't know what I'm doing wrong but I can't complete it....

[mellow atlas]

it is artisan even on russian wiki

If u didnt know, ctrl, shift while buying anything from a shop to quickly buy 1000 of it

[subtle mauve]

what that

[jade rose]

is this from the bulletin board?

[formal bronze]

Any reason to go geologist these days

[mellow atlas]

wtf

[neat sail]

It's 30 no?

It only purchases 30 for me

[mellow atlas]

@neat mulch put them outside ur keg areas saves so much time

[subtle mauve]

its actually only 25

[neat mulch]

That's fair - but I already had built big ones outside of my sheds by the time I got them so they weren't necessary

[frosty bough]

Yes, bulletin board quest. Says it wants 15 mushrooms in the dropbox in Demetrius' lab, but it won't let me put anything in....

[neat sail]

I was thinking it was definitely not 1000

[neat mulch]

Is that a modded bulletin request ?

[neat sail]

Is this a 1.6 quest or modded? It's not on the wiki

[neat mulch]

Cuz I don't think I've ever gotten it

[neat sail]

Same here

[subtle mauve]

how th does bro have 800 stardrop teas

[frosty bough]

I don't think I have any mods that add quests?

[neat sail]

What mods?

[chilly bloom]

You can press control shift and 1 to buy a stack instantly

Then just press e or escape for it to be deposited into your inventory without moving the mouse

[neat mulch]

Spamming ctrl + shift + 1 to buy crab cakes 🙏

[frosty bough]

I don't think any of those add quests? Not that I recall anyway....

I think it must be 1.6 new?

[neat mulch]

I don't think it's new - I vaugely remember seeing it before *in screenshots, but I'm pretty sure it's modded

[slender wing]

I've never seen that request, it must be a mod

[neat sail]

If it's not working in your game it's most likely modded? I'm honestly not sure

[slender wing]

I've just recently completed all the special orders and dont recall it

[frosty bough]

Huh, weird. I don't remember any quests from the mods. Meh, I'll ignore it then.

Thanks all.

[mellow atlas]

Ugh i needa get 510 ancient fruit seeds in 7 days

Stardew days

[frosty bough]

Okay, it's totally a mod. Uses mushrooms from Atelier Wildflour Crops & Forage 🤦‍♀️ My bad.

[neat mulch]

Oohh

Good to know

[neat sail]

The salmon's catching times seem to be changed in 1.6 but it's not reflected on the wiki (just caught one at 9:30pm in the waterfalls), @drowsy steeple sorry for the ping but would you be able to clarify this (with game code)?

[slender wing]

How'd you find out

[pine skiff]

finally got 60 things for the museum

krobus time

[dusty mason]

uh

can I get calico eggs in the regular mines lmfao

oh it doesnt increase lol

[lusty pecan]

yea i think the egg level is just there for some reason

[woven tusk]

There was a bug for a while, that you could take the elevator to Mine 120 and instantly get Egg Level 25. And then just talk to Gil for 200 eggs and his hat.

It was fixed. But that was funny.

[dusty mason]

that is incredible lmfao

[tidal obsidian]

Is deluxe bait or wild bait better

[tidal obsidian]

No that was actually patched out in 1.6.4

[sacred river]

Deluxe bait is better for overall fishing, but wild bait has its uses in catching two of the same fish

[tidal obsidian]

i assume challenge bait is better though

[lusty pecan]

if you can get perfect catches consistently, then absolutely yea

[unkempt dome]

@lusty pecan You leveled up to Cowpoke. You can now speak in our voice channels and share images in all channels!

[lusty pecan]

that's just hard to do

(for some fish at least)

for fish that are hard to catch, it's probably better to use wild bait since if the fish escapes 3 times with challenge bait you'll lose that fish instantly

[mellow atlas]

CA please let us marry robin

Demetrious is probably packing 3 inches

[woven tusk]

Good idea, it will be possible to date Robin and both of her children all at the same time!

Oh wait

That's disgusting

[mellow atlas]

I'll elope with her to california or some shit

[reef prawn]

simply make it so you cant date maru or sebastian

[harsh plover]

LOL

Sebastian is adopted though right?

So not biological child

[mellow atlas]

Is 632 ancient fruit plants too many? also I have another 300 in green house and ginger island

[harsh plover]

Never too many, get infinite money

[woven tusk]

No, he's Robin's eldest child from a marriage before Demetrius

Jas is the kid without blood relatives here (until Leo moves in, I guess)

[reef prawn]

LEO IS RELATED TO JAS?!

[woven tusk]

Nah, he's just also an orphan

So there will be two without blood relatives in the valley

[cloud oyster]

It’s Joever..

My internet is ass guys what do I do

[mellow atlas]

Risk it

Ive had this so many times

But this might delete ur game

Just spent 500k gold on 2.5k salads

[cloud oyster]

Then why would I open it??

[mellow atlas]

I mean what else would u do

[cloud oyster]

Where do u find my stardew files on my computer guys I need to ensure they are saved

[tiny torrent]

%appdata%

[tiny torrent]

StardewValley

[mellow atlas]

Back up

[cloud oyster]

what menu is that

[cloud oyster]

nvm

its properties

[cloud oyster]

yea

[tacit oriole]

The wiki's rather vague on details of targeted bait, do the increased odds replace all catches including trash and algae and such, or does it only increase the odds of catching the targeted species if you're already hooking a fish?

It'd be fantastic to finally have a way to find more than one lava eel every five hours...

[cloud oyster]

5 golden tags 6 trout, what are the odds

[fossil kelp]

do dehydrators accept sweet gem berries?

[dry lance]

No

[fossil kelp]

makes sense

[dry lance]

Sweet gem berries are barly concidered crops lol

Only crop thing that applies to them is agriculturalist speedgrow and fertilizer

[fossil kelp]

i can see why though lol, you could make bank with them if they worked

[mellow atlas]

Got trash going 414 floors down in SC

[dry lance]

No rain totems?

[mellow atlas]

None

[dry lance]

Reset

[mellow atlas]

Too late

I passed out

[dry lance]

Dam

[mellow atlas]

About to plant 800 ancient fruit

Day 1 year 4

[dry lance]

Not sf?

[mellow atlas]

Sprint

Spring*

[dry lance]

Ah

How fast do you think I can unlock sc with joja route?

[mellow atlas]

Fast

[grim siren]

Are all the books of Power 1.6 update? I'm a newer player and on Switch. So trying to sift though what is 1.6 and what isn't so I don't waste my time hunting down stuff not availble to me yet.

[broken portal]

yes

[grim siren]

So the bookseller is a 1.6 thing too?

[mental sail]

the only book things before 1.6 are the blue lost ones for the library that never make it into your inventory

[grim siren]

Gotcha. Then why do certain characters like books as gifts? That's odd

[mental sail]

did you get that from the wiki as well? then it was added in 1.6, they like books in my game but not in yours

[broken portal]

because they like books in 1.6

[grim siren]

Ahhhhh. I see. So the wiki is updated for all things 1.6. Which as a Switch player keeps throwing me off. lol

[mental sail]

the history tab can help, pick a version of the article older than march 20

[grim siren]

I'm also in my very first play through.... So I am constantly searching things and referencing the wiki

[grim siren]

Excellent idea!

Thank you very much!

[edgy narwhal]

what are these from

ive never seen them before so i assume theyre new?

[tepid fiber]

dioes anyone knoiw what item this is

[marble patrol]

The second one is from year 2's halloween maze, not sure about the first pic

[marble patrol]

Raisins maybe?

[tepid fiber]

ooh right thank u

i was gonna wait for the racoons to give it to me but they gave me seeds

[latent rune]

i think the first one is from one of his 14 heart cutscenes!

i could be wrong though i havent married sam in ages 😭

[narrow parrot]

Man, it's like...

I modded the game to give myself rigged RNG so as to save time with RNG manip...

Except now I'm not sure if the RNG manip is still active.

Because what happened was I used the thing to get a Book of Stars for Fairy Dust.

Except after I turned the quest in, I got a Book of Stars afterwards.

From a Mystery Box.

And now I'm not sure if the manip is still active or not because it's supposed to turn off after the quest is finished.

[hidden reef]

Did they lower the the odds of getting duck feather and/or rabbit's foot

I've got my duck at four hearts and it still won't drop a feather to let me finish the bundle

[broken portal]

they shouldnt be changed

[hidden reef]

Guess I'm just unlucky

[gray oriole]

Is it winter or are you feeding them with hay

[hidden reef]

It's winter, unfortunately

[tiny torrent]

This is anecdotal but I’ve actually gotten more of feathers and foot. But also running rancher

[hidden reef]

but I wasn't getting any feathers at three hearts before winter either

[gray oriole]

Do you have a heater installed

[dapper mica]

Does grass still grow from there a lighting rod/ fence this update?

[gray oriole]

Not aware of any chances to that

For reference, duck/rabbit special drop caps around 40% at max luck/mood/friendship

If theyre not able to eat grass, there is no heater, and u keep rolling bad luck stat on produce days u get like a good 20%+ shaved off that 40%

[tidal obsidian]

damn ok

[latent rune]

what a haul omg

[tiny torrent]

Golden or normal?

[tidal obsidian]

thats normal lol

i dont have the fishing mastery

[mental sail]

the game seems to be hinting heavily that you should get it asap

[tidal obsidian]

i think im just really lucky

[latent rune]

insanely so yeah

[tidal obsidian]

except when it comes to finding rainbow trout

[gray oriole]

Use a baitmaker

[tidal obsidian]

probably a good idea, im just using wild bait atm

[polar wyvern]

can someone tell me the fish between midnight carp and mutant carp?

[frosty bough]

Turned out my chests for all the mushrooms, including the modded ones, and went to the dropbox. The modded ones were the only ones that it would let me add, and it gave me starters of one of the modded mushrooms, so it has to be from there.

[uncut epoch]

how do i modde

how to mod

😐

[tiny torrent]

!gs

[unkempt dome]

If you would like a guide to setting up mods for Stardew Valley, check out the getting started guide! https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Modding:Player_Guide

To use this command, type !gs.

[polar wyvern]

anyone?

[tiny torrent]

Pic?

[polar wyvern]

update... just got it.. its a clam 🤦‍♂️

[tiny torrent]

lol right crab pot fish got added to the tab

[full pond]

is fairy dust a 1 tile only thing or is it like a spread?

[slender wing]

1 tile

[full pond]

thanks

[visual musk]

fun fact:if you dont catch a single fish before the end of spring y1 you get a cutscene from willy which auto gives u fishing lv1

[visual musk]

average skull cavern run (you didnt bring staircases)

[tidal obsidian]

chat im back at it again getting lucky with fishing chests

[visual musk]

trout derby W

[cloud oyster]

W i got similar results during mine too

pirate for the win, trust no fisherman without it

[tidal obsidian]

pirate for the win

[tiny torrent]

Pirate best perk

[cloud oyster]

ong

[tidal obsidian]

i got two artifacts that i needed for the museum and im not missing many artifacts

[tiny torrent]

Just left with trilobite and another bone for my run

[wary quiver]

is rain still based on steps?

[hexed coral]

on steps?? rain is randomly generated for the next day except for hardcoded days

[molten turret]

no i dontt hink

[molten turret]

i believe the game used to have step-based calculations as randomization for the daily luck and weather of the next day

but now its more randomized

of course a modder would know that :3

[hexed coral]

at least in 1.5 it was never based on steps now idk about older patches

the game randomly assigns rain

[keen wren]

is there any way to display a sword? just got meowmere but already have galaxy sword

[hexed coral]

besides some days which are hardcoded to rain

which are very few

[molten turret]

signs

[keen wren]

ok thx

looks epic

thanks again

[woven tusk]

My understanding of how it works is...

When you cast your line, the game puts all possible catches in a list, shuffles them like cards in a deck, and then evaluates the bite/no-bite RNG for them in order from top to bottom. Certain special catches (e.g. legendaries) will always be at the top, so they get first dibs on your hook; certain other catches (e.g. trash) will always be at the bottom so you only snag them if nothing else bites first.

Targeted bait does three things:

1. your hook will check the top three items in the list for the fish you target, meaning it has a chance to override something else that would have successfully gotten to your hook first
2. the target's bite success chance will be increased by 66% (doesn't apply to legendaries nor Extended Family)
3. if your target doesn't bite, the game will continue down the list repeatedly (starting over from the top again if necessary) until either it does successfully bite, or until three other things do. (Trash has a 100% hook rate, which can limit the number of times the hook rescans the list for other bites)

[keen wren]

now this is evil

[woven tusk]

Wanna know a secret?

They'll accept Dried Common Mushrooms too, for that one

I went to track down a mushroom floor in the mines, dehydrated my loot, and then... tried a bag of common ones on a hunch. It worked.
Now I can sell the purples.

[keen wren]

thx

[woven tusk]

Can't be. Mouseypounds' predictor applet can identify every rainy day the valley will ever have, as soon as you create the farm.
Ginger Island doesn't use the same RNG, though, so it can't predict the weather there. Maybe that is still based on step count?

[woven tusk]

Hm. Radioactive Carp's habitat only has trash and regular Carp to compete against. Wonder if targeted bait would meaningfully help for it. Though it'd have to work extremely well in order to have any chance of competing with just trying for Legend II using Wild or Deluxe Bait

[tidal obsidian]

pretty good haul and my best skull caverns run of 164 (still no auto petter though)

[gray oriole]

i wonder if it's just checking for item type

[gray oriole]

iirc 3's wrong

targetted bait slaps a 2nd copy of the fish roll table to the end

if u fail a 2nd time it'll just go straight to trash

[tacit oriole]

Innnnnteresting, thanks for all the detail! So it will reduce trash odds… and apparently even potentially reduce bite times? Huh, this stuff is powerful. Weird that I had so much trouble with it… I tried using it via the bait maker for more spookfish, and it barely caught me more back than I spent on making the stuff. Though, the catfish bait I bought worked wonders… is it just the submersible that was an issue?

[gray oriole]

all bait reduces bite time

every other bait is just an upgraded form of the regular 5g Bait

[lusty pecan]

i once had the raccoon ask for dried cherries... i did not have a cherry tree

[tacit oriole]

I knew that, but the way Gigafreak phrased it implied that it also increased bite chances for that fish specifically, which would be an additional bonus, no?

[gray oriole]

that's the bit where it's targetted yes

also it doesn't work on submarine fish

[tacit oriole]

That is to say, increased odds of getting a bite at all, which was the implication.

wat

Then why does it let you make it?

[gray oriole]

submarine fish don't use the SpawnRate stat

it will still reduce trash rate by doubling the fish table length

[tacit oriole]

Weeeeird.

[gray oriole]

and it will still alter the drop table to do 3 checks at at time

[tacit oriole]

Oof that’s two spookfish I could have smoked.

[gray oriole]

but those are less specific to the fish being targetted, it's more like the effects of the bait type itself

[tacit oriole]

I see, just a misinterpretation on my end then.

[tidal obsidian]

idk what mastery to pick between fishing, foraging and combat

[gray oriole]

whichever you're using more, probably

[lyric girder]

[tidal obsidian]

honestly kinda tempted to go foraging because i dont fish too often atm

combat mastery is mainly a convience thing and to help you out in combat (other than the parrot mainly)

[tiny torrent]

imho as rancher pov

1. farming mastery for gold crackers
2. fishing mastery because fishing best xp gain and you might as well get gold fish chests
3. combat mastery for parrot egg trinket and passive income
4. foraging mastery for treasure totems to find pesky artifacts
5. mining mastery for heavy furnace which is just qol upgrade
   Discuss

[tidal obsidian]

this room looks cool

[cloud oyster]

I believe that the iridium scythe should harvest acorns or tree seeds in the ground, PLEASE CA

i cant see through my oak trees

[keen wren]

what fruit is that?

[gray oriole]

no point in buying the mastery early for a skill you don't use

[tiny torrent]

Yeah the seed scatter makes me sad because I need to put flooring on everything

[gray oriole]

whichever skill you use the least of should go on the bottom

[tiny torrent]

But we use everything…?

Ok I get some people don’t fish

[mental sail]

foraging is more useful when you still need museum stuff, getting it late feels a little pointless

[gray oriole]

its pretty hard to "not use foraging" when basically everything drops mystery boxes

[tidal obsidian]

honestly i think fishing is best after you get golden animal crackers and golden mystery boxes

[lusty pecan]

i thiink i got foraging last

[lyric girder]

Ancient fruit

[keen wren]

ah ok

[lyric girder]

There's about 130k gold there

[tidal obsidian]

im looking at the loot table and im not seeing much thats interesting to me for the golden treasure chest

[keen wren]

damn

[gray oriole]

its the most consistent way of getting animal crackers

[lyric girder]

Is powerful the best pickaxe enchantment?

[tiny torrent]

Not everyone has your luck in treasure chest loot

[tidal obsidian]

its only a 2% increase from the regular treasure chests

[nimble turtle]

why are the mushrooms growing in winter

[gray oriole]

so?

golden treasure chests give more items flatout

[tidal obsidian]

i just feel like you get more out of fishing mastery when you already have farming, and foraging masteries unlocked

[gray oriole]

obviously given they apply bonuses to it

[cloud oyster]

Penny why tf did you push George's wheelchair without his permission

clearly in the wrong in that cutscene

[gray oriole]

hasn't that cutscene been around forever

[mellow atlas]

yeah i hate that

if you tell her she did something wrong you lose 50 friendship

[cloud oyster]

yea im just currently playing a new save for 1.6

[cloud oyster]

im low friendship with her anyways so i just said that

also told her id rather die young and she was fr so pissed

[tiny torrent]

Penny villain arc incoming

[mental sail]

not only the pushing, she talks about him like he isn't there, even switches between George and Mr Mullner when adressing him again

[cloud oyster]

Penny when she actually has the opportunity to grow and change as a person (you lose friendship points):

[tidal obsidian]

i gave my cat a party hat

[cloud oyster]

hell yea

[gray oriole]

I don't see the issue with this

[cloud oyster]

you lose friendship points for telling her she was a jerk to george

[gray oriole]

Yes?

Lecturing people who barely know you tends to upset them

Big surprise

[cloud oyster]

she asked for your opinion on it 😭

[gray oriole]

sounds pretty realistic to me

[cloud oyster]

like cmon she got mad at constructive criticism she asked for

"realistic" does NOT mean "no issue"

[tidal obsidian]

do mystic trees produce their own seeds like other trees

[gray oriole]

nope

gotta pay the tree seed tax for every tree

[gray oriole]

aren't you currently doing the same thing she's doing

[cloud oyster]

?

[gray oriole]

ignoring the bit where she's a written character on a screen, you're displaying your dislike of her reaction to your interaction with her

[cloud oyster]

arent you ignoring the fact that im making a joke about a character and instead continue to defend "a written character on a screen"

im allowed to make fun of characters, i dont inherently dislike her and i never said i did

[gray oriole]

you're allowed to make fun of characters but I'm not allowed to respond to public messages in a chat?

ok

[cloud oyster]

i dont remember saying you werent allowed to respond to me lmao, i dont know why you continue to be so angry over penny of all characters

[gray oriole]

i don't particularly care about penny

I just wanted to put you into the same situation as her and see how you'd react

[cloud oyster]

how in any way was i put in the same situation as her?

this argument is genuinely confusing me as i think weve both lost the point of it

[gray oriole]

naaaah i'm having a good time rn

[cloud oyster]

ok

[molten turret]

so you're trolling them

got it

[gray oriole]

shhhh

[molten turret]

can't say shhh to bouncer ><

anyways im gonna do some fish farming

[fossil kelp]

how many times do i need to help the raccoons before i get the good neighbor achievement

[bleak current]

9 in total now

[cloud oyster]

that many?

[fossil kelp]

jfc dude

[gray oriole]

wait it went up again?

[cloud oyster]

danggg

[gray oriole]

what changed

[high creek]

6

[bleak current]

when CA added the cutscene he bumped the achieve back to when the last (8th) baby raccoon spawns

[cloud oyster]

2 rabbits feet les goo

[paper cloak]

Love the trinkets, just wish it wasn't so expensive to craft the anvil, let alone use the darn thing to distribute the stats of said trinkets

[gray oriole]

wait shouldn't be it be 10 quests then

[bleak current]

wife + 8 babies

[gray oriole]

repairing the tree, getting wife, and then 8 children

[cloud oyster]

dude im stuck on number 2 he fr asked for cherry jelly

[bleak current]

i don't count the tree since it isn't a bundle quest, but if you want to then it would be 10

[high creek]

I didn't know he made it take longer. My complete 1.6 file there's only 7 babies, and I have the achievement.

[bleak current]

changed in 1.6.4

[paper cloak]

i want to complete the racoon side quest too eventually, but it takes so long between quests

[woven tusk]

I think I overheard, earlier today, that it doesn't work properly in the submarine. I don't remember the details, though.

I also remember much more clearly that B100F of the mines straightup does not use the normal fishing programming. If you want to use targeted bait for Lava Eels, better head to the Ginger Island volcano instead; I hear it works very well there.

(Sorry for replying late and pinging, I'm trying to do a last-minute thing on one of my mobile games before it expires)

[nimble turtle]

which hole should i take?

[broken portal]

it doesnt matter

all holes in a level go the same amount

[molten turret]

the shaft

preferably the one closest to you

[narrow parrot]

Poggers. I can check my Mastery progress.

From the pause menu.

[gentle otter]

do the raccoon tasks like, end, or just go on forever?

[robust spoke]

how would you even test this

[broken portal]

the code

[broken portal]

forever

[nimble turtle]

doesnt it give you a count?

[slender wing]

Eventually you get an achievement after 8(?) babies

[nimble turtle]

in the stardew checku[

[broken portal]

yeah 8 kids

[slender wing]

Idk what happens after that though

[gentle otter]

yea i got that

they're so cute :0

[slender wing]

Are they still requesting things

[gentle otter]

yes

but also the valley is going to have an incredible raccoon problem

[gray oriole]

the quests repeat after the 6th

[gentle otter]

and it wont b linus this time

[nimble turtle]

i kinda want the opposum its so cute

[brazen oar]

am i doing this right for a giant crop?

[cloud oyster]

yooo my pig just gavce brith, saved me 16k

[broken portal]

yes

[tiny torrent]

Now pray

[slender wing]

Yes

[broken portal]

i got a giant qi bean giant powdermelon both within 10 days

[nimble turtle]

cool

[robust spoke]

do trees still spread seeds if their being tapped?

[gentle otter]

yes

[dusty glen]

How do i spawn a hability book with id ?

[gentle otter]

its more a pain to get them to stop spreading seeds

i have to put paths all arond them

[robust spoke]

I want seeds for mystic seeds

just kinda hard to actually see the seeds now

[broken portal]

wdym?

an xp book?

[dusty glen]

No

I have maxed out all habilities

The thing is i found the book that adds a chance to receive double wood from chopping trees

But my pc restarted and i lost it

[broken portal]

the books dont have proper ids

woody's secret is just [Book_Woodcutting]

[vapid furnace]

Pulled a Minecraft and made the item numbers into actual names
It's not "give Shibainu25 232 64" it's "minecraft:stone_block" or whatever

Sorry if I accidentally did a bot command somehow

[quartz forum]

Today I learned rhubarb is a fruit

[vapid furnace]

Alright Demetrius

[quartz forum]

🤣

I couldn't figure out why my quest for harvesting 25 gold vegetables wasn't completing, then took another look at the Rhubarb and it's labeled as fruit

[dusty glen]

Yes i saw but the thing is the id is so long that i cant add rename the character or buy an animal with the id

[short cloud]

Truffle crab spotted 👀

[broken portal]

ive yet to get one

in two years

full barn of pigs

[tiny torrent]

Disgusting

[short cloud]

This is the first one I've seen, and I'm in year 4 oop

I have 2 barns of pigs xD

[tiny torrent]

But there’s a chance they drop prismatic shards

[short cloud]

wait is there?

[tiny torrent]

Yeah I was so disgusted I went to look them up

[molten turret]

• dried wild plum
• pomegranate jelly

[short cloud]

I got 4 regular quality truffles from it. Not super amazing but truffle crab is still cool

[desert stag]

do we have to turn on the mobs to appear on our farm for this to appear?

[short cloud]

No, I don't have mobs on the farm enabled

[desert stag]

nice tyvm

[tiny torrent]

No they just friggin appear

[desert stag]

btw is there a way to change the farm type after playing the game?

[short cloud]

No, at least not legitimately. Maybe if you go into the save files or something but I've never tried

[desert stag]

Tyvm

[tidal obsidian]

finally got the statue of blessings

[short cloud]

Nicee congrats!

Good luck finding the butterflies. Its like 50/50 if I find them or not haha

[gray oriole]

U can turn them into oil and now u effectively got 4 iridium truffles from 1 truffle with bad attitude

[gray oriole]

If someone wants to go update the forge wiki page

Innate enchantment stat caps scale with item level

Crit power caps at 75%

Attack innate enchantment adds +3 dmg post multipliers per level, capping at 5 levels

Crit chance increases by 2% per lvl capping at 6%

[mellow atlas]

Magic rock candies are farmable now before perfection, grab a crap load of treasure totems, use them, get mystery boxes, trade them for golden ones, get magic rock candy from racoons, or just monster musk qi mode reg mines lvls 45-50 over and over again killing sprites

[gray oriole]

or just fish

[mellow atlas]

For golden boxes and trade them in

[lavish rapids]

how much per level?

[gray oriole]

25%

[lavish rapids]

weird the wiki doesn't even have attack and crit chance listed

[gray oriole]

yeah

lightweight (-kb) reduces kb by 10% per level, capping at 5 levels

slimegatherer spawns 1 + random(sqrt(maxhealth/3)) slime whenever u kill a slime (small or big) and for some reason caps at 5 despite not using levels in its calculation

slimeslayer adds dmg * 1.33 + 1 dmg whenever you hit a small slime

[lavish rapids]

what the heck is lightweight

[gray oriole]

the bottommost enchant

the internal name is lightweight

[lavish rapids]

ah okay

[gray oriole]

this doesn't work on big slimes, L

[lavish rapids]

sorry I got confused cause of the - I missed

[lavish rapids]

Might be a bug like the OG Slime Charmer ring bug

[gray oriole]

its cuz big slimes are considered a separate enemy category and it didn't include a check for big slime

[lavish rapids]

mistake then not bug

[gray oriole]

weaponspeed multiplies attack speed by +10% per level, capping at 3

[lavish rapids]

can you explain what this code means, I just straight up don't understand it lol

[gray oriole]

ok so

if a slime has 100 hp it'll divide that by 3 first, so 33

it'll then get the square root of that number, so 5.744 in this case

and then it'll randomly generate a number between 0 and that number and add it to the guaranteed 1 slime drop

[lavish rapids]

me trying to decide if I want to write that all out in the description

[gray oriole]

add a footnote I guess

or something

[lavish rapids]

is there no maximum?

[gray oriole]

it's too bad the game doesn't even bother to include descriptions for these to steal

[lavish rapids]

Tiger slimes can have quite a lot of health

[gray oriole]

the only limit is whatever the enemy's hp is

[lavish rapids]

huh alright

[gray oriole]

it doesn't matter because square root turns any big number small really fast

exponentially even

[lavish rapids]

I suppose so

[gray oriole]

a special purple slime has 1230 hp and sqrt(1230/3) drops it down to 20.25

so 0.175% chance a purple slime is special, and then a 1 in 20 chance it rolls a 20 to drop u 20 slime

[lavish rapids]

does it stack with the thievs ring? and the multiplier book?

Feel liek there's a theoretical drop of like 92 slime

or wait no uhhh

[gray oriole]

yes

[lavish rapids]

88 slime

[gray oriole]

slimegatherer is its own separate thing

[lavish rapids]

1 + 1 bonus + 20

multiplied by 2 twice

[gray oriole]

it directly just spawns its own pile of slime whenever it detects a slime dies

[lavish rapids]

or 88 slime from one slime lmao

not really broken though since slime isn't particularly useful as a money making tool

[lavish rapids]

Do you have the defense stats for inate enchants? That's the only one I'm missing

[gray oriole]

the exact mechanics:
on monster slaying, check if the enemy type is a greenSlime or bigSlime, roll a drop amount, directly spawn the item on top of the player's location

Defense adds 1 def per level, capping at 3

[lavish rapids]

heck yeah

[gray oriole]

also the note about slimegatherer and slimeslayer accompanying each other can probably be removed

i'm not aware of any limits on what 2 innate enchants can pair up

[lavish rapids]

everything look good to you

[gray oriole]

i'm not 100% certain but I think it just rolls a 50% dice roll for a 2nd enchant

(don't add that, I'm not confident in that claim yet)

err where is the Attack page linking

oh

i completely forgot other things gave attack

[lavish rapids]

haha

[undone imp]

if i read the code right, the +defense is limited to weapons with level <= 10

[gray oriole]

you might be looking at the level cap scaling

iirc the level cap is 15 but each enchant has its own individual scaling behavior

[undone imp]

i'm looking at attemptAddRandomInnateEnchantment

[gray oriole]

yeah

that one handles level caps

[lavish rapids]

Oops I clicked save changes instead of show preview

ah well I think it looks fine

[gray oriole]

iirc the actual check for allowing innate enchants is.. somewhere in the forge ui script?

let me double check

[undone imp]

there's a Forge method in Tool.cs which calls attemptAddRandomInnateEnchantment

[gray oriole]

I could be wrong there

[undone imp]

and well, attemptAdd... is the only function i see which even references all the separate innate enchantment classes lol

[gray oriole]

oops you're right

defense requires level 10

[undone imp]

also have you confirmed that it's possible to get +3 defense with it? to me it looks like that function limits the level to 2 at most

[gray oriole]

I went by whatever's in the enchant file not the weapon class

[undone imp]

well the enchant file can say whatever it wants lol

oh, looks like the max level from the enchant's class is used when applying an enchant to a weapon that already has that enchant, in which case the levels combine?

so i guess +3 defense is possible then

[gray oriole]

i'm still trying to figure out what the 50% roll at the top of the method is for

[undone imp]

the forge calls that method with force=true, so the 50% roll is ignores

that's only used for rare drops in the mines or volcano dungeon i think

[gray oriole]

so where is double innate enchantment logic handled

my initial assumption was that the first one is forced and then the 2nd one gets rolled but i'm not seeing that

[undone imp]

ugh this code is so weird lol

[gray oriole]

ye

[undone imp]

OH

it's just the first if/else-if chain being separate from the switch statement

so it rolls one ench from the ifs and one from the switch

i think?

[gray oriole]

oh

I think you're right

so it does a 0.125 roll and checks for level <= 10 for defense, if that fails rolls again for 0.125 for lightweight and slime gatherer?

[minor frigate]

How do i claim one of the masteries in the room? Im lvl 10 in everything but i cant claim anything 💔

[gray oriole]

and then all the other enchants go in a 2nd pool

[gray oriole]

get 10000 mastery xp

[minor frigate]

Do i need to get the 10k xp first?

Oh only 5k okie

Ty

WAIT IT IS 10K

[gray oriole]

whatever the bar in the middle of the room says

idr off the top of my head

[minor frigate]

Its 10k, ty

[gray oriole]

treat mastery as basically another skill bar you start at 0 in

[minor frigate]

Icic, ty

[buoyant tendon]

i think itd be kinda cool if claiming mastery wasnt like. you claim one skills mastery at a time
but rather every time you leveld up mastery you’d get one new thing from each skill

[undone imp]

oh also the while(true) loop is there because if, during forging, it tries to give you an ench you already had previously, it just tries the whole thing again

[gray oriole]

personally I'd like it if each skill individually tracked xp for mastery

[bleak current]

I'd hate that. some of them suck to grind.

[lavish rapids]

please don't make me grind more foraging xp

[gray oriole]

well u can claim the mastery of whatever skill u hate first so its cheaper

but yeah i didn't consider how variable the xp rates are

ig that doesn't work too well

[mental sail]

but also happens to be the skill you use least

[gray oriole]

anyway uhh

[lavish rapids]

I do feel that the xp rates should be increased and it should at the very least track xp past level 5 for a fun stat

[gray oriole]

you're up again frosty

[lavish rapids]

what happened

[gray oriole]

defense requires an item to be at or below lvl 10

[lavish rapids]

alright sure why not

[gray oriole]

defense, attack speed, and slime gatherer are mutually exclusive with each other

every other enchant are also mutually exclusive with each other

[lavish rapids]

oh god

[gray oriole]

so eg you can have defense + attack

or slime gatherer + crit chance

but not defense + attack speed or defense + slime gatherer

and can't have crit chance + crit damage either

(just as some examples)

[gray oriole]

I don't quite understand what's going on here yet though

which method are you looking at for that

[undone imp]

still attemptAddRandom...

[gray oriole]

is it the foreach loop near the bottom?

[undone imp]

no, the while (true) near the top

or well

yeah the foreach at the bottom checks for matches

[rose oxide]

i wished the dehydrators kept their quality

maybe in exchange for only processing 1 item at a time or something

[gray oriole]

that would be incredibly broken

[undone imp]

also i am once again pretty sure you can't get more than +2 defense, because you can't get the enchantment combine logic to happen on it, because that add innate method is the only thing that can possibly add DefenseEnchantment, and all innate enchantments are removed before that one gets called

[gray oriole]

dehydrators already multiply input value by x1.5 + 5

applying iridium quality again would cause it to triple the value

[rose oxide]

dehydrators are at a point where they're worse than kegging though

[gray oriole]

yes?

[lavish rapids]

Innate Enchants wiki v3

[gray oriole]

that's the point

you trade value for speed/cost

[rose oxide]

why go through the effort to spend 10k on a recipe for a machine that's not as good as kegs

[lavish rapids]

hmmm I can probably make that clearer

[rose oxide]

just get the kegs instead

[lavish rapids]

do you mean the dehydrators?

[gray oriole]

because a single dehydrator works as fast as nearly 20 kegs

[lavish rapids]

because their processing time is significantly slower and can process 5x as many items

[gray oriole]

it's a one time upfront 10k gold cost

[lavish rapids]

I have not made a single keg in my current playthrough, just use dehydrators

[gray oriole]

kegs are also locked behind farming 8 instead of a paywall

[rose oxide]

idk, my income is just really lackluster with the dehydrators

[gray oriole]

oak resin's also slow to get early on

[rose oxide]

it's probably better for people who don't want to tryhard and get a bunch of kegs idk

but i'm already at the point where i have more than enough kegs to outpace my greenhouse harvests

[gray oriole]

if you want to tryhard, dehydrators still end up being the answer anyway early on because you physically cannot acquire the kegs

you don't even have the recipe prior to your first summer harvest in most cases

[rose oxide]

and then you get like your first batch of like 30 kegs and never use the dehydrators again

it's disappointing

[gray oriole]

that takes 30 oak resin

so 30 bars of copper + iron for the kegs

and then another like 30-60 bars of copper for the tappers for that resin if you want 30 kegs by your next harvest

[rose oxide]

i'm not using the copper on anything else

[lavish rapids]

god damnit which one of you changed my edits in an attempt to break my brain

[rose oxide]

the kegs take more resources to create but there's literally no reason to use dehydrators once you get the kegs

[gray oriole]

I produce far far far more crops than 30 kegs worth

given it takes a week per processing I can maybe process twice per harvest for 60 crops

[mellow atlas]

excuse me

[gray oriole]

the greenhouse alone's already 120 crops

[mellow atlas]

its green rain and I saw weird trees

[gray oriole]

yes

welcome to 1.6

[mellow atlas]

are they gone after rain is gone

or do I chop it or keep it

[molten turret]

chop it

CHOP IT ALL DOWN !!!

[gray oriole]

a small amount stick around but you should consider chopping at least a few for the cool seeds they drop

so u can plant them to get more

[rose oxide]

i'm annoyed that the meadowlands farm has irregular farm patches

[mellow atlas]

wait so all of these woods gonna be gone the next day if I dont chop it?

[lavish rapids]

unless you're a dumbass like me and accedentilly dump all the seeds into the shipping bin

[molten turret]

its summer 27 and my pigs have now started producing truffle LFG !!!

[rose oxide]

it's hard to place down sprinklers

[gray oriole]

the trees spawned by the rain die yes

[mellow atlas]

wait a min

so it affect a tree and turn it into that weird looking tree

[lavish rapids]

how so

[gray oriole]

a % of existing trees get turned into weird trees yes

and the rain also spawns a ton of trees that last for 1 day and then die

most of the converted trees turn back after too

[mellow atlas]

this is heaven for fiber and wood