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your.. moment?
Oh well silliness
imagine if we got the copper shortsword though
Simple. Just ask Clint for one and bring him a few copper bars
I WISH WE COULD IUSUAIAHBUDSBUISEHFEKJ
me too
SHIELDS MACES CROSSBOWS (maybe ask robin too for that) PLEASE ANYTHIGN
Slingshots take or leave
CLINTS STUFF IS COOL I WANT TO TRY THEM OUT
terraria crossover shouldve added the minishark
damn we now adding that to SDV?
it would have been very funny
yknow for the terraria crossover easter egg i was honestly expecting the traveling cart to sometimes sell the terraria peddlers hat
"bombs cannot damage you" is so nothingburger
We should've gotten the nurse in exchange for harvey
i ship them both actually
good
travelling merchant (terraria) and travelling merchant (stardew valley) are 100% married without a shred of doubt in my mind
YEAH AGREED
I really can't tell who's items are more useless
Interdimensional star-crossed pair
like i sigh whenever i get it because i literally never choose it
oh i thought you meant nothingburger as in why wouldnt you choose such a blatantly good yet boring option
just saying, a dirt block would cost a fortune in stardew. we'd do anything for more land
maybe it should be exclusive to one of the mining lv10 skill trees
you die to bombs? /gen
i dont, buti t seems itd be convenient
The Merchant wasn't kidding "You don't know how much dirt blocks sell for overseas"
fair, but i feel like this would be a trinket
i would definitely have less damage from bombs be a profession to make it mutually exclusi- fair thats also reasonable
dwarvish armor
instead of some safety manual
i was kinda thinking more ladders being a lv10 alternative to having more ores and geodes drop . would be interesting
oh this would be a damn no brainer skill to take 😭 blacksmith has got NOTHING on more ladders
…also i desperately want to make the qi room sprinkler upgrade be a recipe from farming mastery, instead of statue of blessings recipe…
really…? hmm
They learned that from the wandering traders that visit minecraft skyblock players
statue of blessings totally oughta be from year 3 grandpa
…dwarf king statue can take the role of producing iridium?
fair point
I’m on riverland farm. I would love me some dirt blocks
it's very powerful you know
is there a sort of forum/thread place here where i could write down my ideas n ask for thoughts on them?
like "more ladders" is a bigger deal than youd expect
what would you consider to compete against … say, 15% more ladders
it indirectly means more ores, less money spent on bombs, etc
I think it's like how people use Tiller then switch to Artisan for starfruit growing / wine sellijng
Get further down, mine more iridium, switch, sell the iridium
15% hm..... every mining profession that isn't miner and blacksmith get blown out of the water
they are... pretty useless
maybe a level 10 for miner that makes geodes more likely to give ore than artifacts?
you mean archaeologist?
i like that idea....
no offense but this sounds more like a level 5
mining has been the toughest skill to think of because all i do is fish
Oh yeah for the iridium needle...
increased geode drop chance + alters geode tables to give more ore might be able to compete with miner (miner is so good still though)
oh i mean itd be on top of miner
Well I was comparing it to how people grow starfruit faster, then switch to make the wine sell for more.
Get further down in the mines with the ladder skill, then switch to blacksmith and sell the extra bars
as an alt to blacksmith
The wiki say it has a crit multiplier of 14x right?
…actually unsure how much i really like that now that i say it
Turns out it's a 35x crit multiplier with +75 crit power and desperado on iridium needle
wha
oh goodness 😭
LMAO
here's an idea: 2 paths. 1 based on ore and another based on geodes and minerals
like how its managed in game! except tweaked a bit
oh yeah it is 35
i like gemologist a good bit, i think it should be a bigger boost, but i like how it makes crystalariums a working method for money
It do be LMAO
in my rebalance, some old professions are turned into book powers, and vice versa
are you making a mod..?
What if it boosted crystalarium speed too?
the plan is!
MAY I PLEASE REQUEST ONE ITEM
i really love that actually... damn
For dragontooth cutlass with +75 crit power and desperado I got 20x crit multiplier
i wont overpromise cus im at literally the beginning of learning and just overscoping lol
its really more of “my dream mod end goal, and rn im practicing some basic af things”
Boosted crystalarium speed would be pretty good even if you don't intend to sell gems. More Jades and Rubies for trading would be great for anyone
the only changes im really confident in right now though is changing the alt fishing profs to aquaculture (ponds, roe, raising fish, more treasure/gift rewards from them)
please.... just one..........
what would your one item you’d really want be
Oh what does aquamarine do?
I always used desperado. This update makes me want to keep desperado
Warframe moment but toned
aint it uhh crit power?
Crit chance for aquamarine
ah, i thought that was jade
Oh yeah but you hardly need to farm them for that
it's a combat trinket, when you attack you fire a bouncing projectile
meow..mere..
the bouncing projectile makes a meow noise when it hits the wall. yes. that is exactly what it is
So fun fact the game has an enchant for making melee weapons shoot projectiles that is unused
MEOWMERE
AND YET WE GOT HAYMAKER??
Oh gosh WHAT
farming game
look inside
hay
Presumably it was balancing issues idk
Artful acrobat clubs...
75 crit power desperado daggers and swords...
question... are you actually the guy who got over 11 thousand floors in sc
im goin for crit in my playthrough rn
Yes
oh my goodness it's an honor.....
ong
Honestly 75 crit power is underselling it
11 thousand is a big number
Crit innate is basically “if desperado is so good, why not desperado 2?”
70x by bug killer, desperado and +75 crit power
ooo good luck! hows the build planned to be?
It's like acrobat and artful
mfw x5 dmg multiplier on top of crit power
Imagine doing 70x damage to something
What if melee projectile can crit
jades were always terrible
kinda? it's straight ass
More jade for stairs, then
was gonna say, jade for stairs only good thing
not as bad as amethyst though
I'll need stairs...always...
I literally just watched your youtube video of sc run and holy
i refuse to believe you made it to floor 11 thousand using just staircases
literally watching the vid right now lmao
Would you love to see the whole video?
ive never watched it in full i probably should
It's 5.5 hours long trust
holy fucking pause buffer
insanity
GL watching 5.5 hours of me placing staircases and pausing
...So you can have 10% more dmg (ruby) or you can have 10% more dmg but only when you crit (jade) 
how did you not lose your mind
IS IT REALLY JUST STAIORCASES
yes
thank you for making me realize im terrible at staircasing 🙏
Did you faint at the end
yes
I feel sorry for whomever tf carried you back up those 11187 flights of stairs and got you to bed in under 4 hours
I gotta save up all my jade and stone to make one stack, let alone an entire inventory full of stacks
I forgot who it was. Harvey or Linus?
Its 20% more when u crit, but unfortunately its additive with 300% crit dmg u inheritantly have
They fuckin' earned that 1000G fee, I'll say that much
If jade bonus worked like innate does it’d be a good deal tbh
But I might as well be carried back to the surface
Yep...
I still need to check how atk bonuses work oops
So it's even worse than Ruby when you do crit 
Staircase fodder it is.
I like staircases
Answer’s pretty much almost always gonna be aquamarine unless ur running spec build
I might like to see an excerpt of the staircase video to see if pause buffering works the way I think it does
Speed is an option too
what about rubies?
Actually...now I think of it. I felt like that would be on meowmere
is this a new weapon?
old
really? ive never seen it before
Famous for having one of the highest crit rates before Ginger Island was implemented
Possibly the highest before then, in fact?
YOOOOOO THATS SO NICE i hear its better than the galaxy dagger
yes, the highest
yeah... fsir enough
+1 spd on… a weapon type that is already known for high base spd
It would have been, one of the projectile sprites is basically fucking nyan cat
+5 weight… on a weapon that wants to do lots of hits in a row
Default level crit
Its kinda depressing to look at honestly
damn so IT WAS FOR MEOWMERE
lucentglow what art thoust thoughts on the new abby's planchette
?
i am going to rip my teeth out
Would love to see the sprites of the projectile
this!
Its funny but too bad its unusable
its so hilariously bad i love it
I think you can get your hands on it, but realistically, it's not usable as a late-game weapon
Definitely usable as a late game weapon with the recent innate enchants
If it didnt have the +weight i think it mightve been barely usable
None of the desert festival weapons are good by the time you can get them.
Not true
Y1 desertfes is a thing u can do
absolutely fucking not 😭 this things straight ass
unless you can click 60 times a second youre getting nowhere with this thing
If the sword skins worked like Terraria's vanity, I'd imagine it would be good to gather them aside from "I have them in a chest... I never used it for the past 5 years but I have it!"
Only if you min max quite a bit. And if you are doing that then the weapons still shit
this is actually just the terraria update
they added accessories and the meowmere
Cause you definitely have something better by the point you can do the desert festival
Because the thing about the volcano method is that you lose the vanity sword if you want to change it
well, trinkets, but you can reforge them, the reforging is expensive, and it's. yeah
Okay I misremembered, it's not actually Nyan Cat, it's... this fucking thing.
Elliot’s pencil is literally just galaxy dagger but good
Goblin Tinkerer moment
actually... it didnt destroy my meowmere when i unforged my sword
uojhhh thats beautiful
NO WAY. It's...its the meowmere projectile from TERRARIA
💀 24-30dmg
I see, a cat's face to be trailed by the rainbow
Also, you can reforge accessories, which is pretty much what the Farmer is using as trinkets
reminder that this is the best dagger in the game
What about it
the anvil is just the goblin tinkerer in a trenchcoat
Daggers just... have low raw damage ye
The infinity dagger is 50-70dmg
Yeah and its bad
and it's straight cheeks
this has always been weird to me they should have more damage than swords. whatever
I got two of the iridium needles on this save, well after I'd gotten my final build together. I've never seen the weapon on my previous 3 saves of course
ooohhh you enjoying it?
You wonder why the reforging sound is a metal clank in Terraria, even though there may be no anvils in sight of the Goblin? Just you, the item, the tinkerer, and the wooden house with wooden furniture.
I have no idea what weapon you’re expecting to have by day 15 tbh
woot got my first fairy box plus 7 prismatic shards and another autopetter and 300 iridium ore 🙂
I usually get the bus stop done not in the first Spring
no, I have them both in a chest 😄
good god thats lucky!
And if I somehow miraculously do it on the first spring, It's definitely past day 15-17
ahhh thats alright! ive been using an iridium needle this run and its been SUPER fun
Galaxy Sword clearly
if I'd gotten it rather earlier I might have put the effort in to make it my primary weapon. too late now though
i am happy 🙂
Point is, no bus stop by the 15th = no desert festival in the first year
so vault bundle by the 15th, that's pretty fast
Meaning you may have, lets say, the bone sword from level 70-80 in the mines
By the 17th
its so fun seeing the funny crit numbers.... mmfghh....
Because you spent your time mining instead of grinding money through other methods
Isn't the obsidian edge at 90F
Yeah
Doesn't the bus get repaired overnight
the bone katana is so nice i love it
yes and at 120 you can just go buy the lava katana
though, the insect head is what i use to patch the gap, and thankfully its been buffeed
The festival lasts 3 days
U can get the bus repaired anywhere within those days and get partial desertfes
I know it's 3 days straight, but not which 3 days
15-17
Still baffles me that its name is katana but it's clearly not one
The name is nice though
15-17 I guess, 18th is after the festival, and I remember those dates because they are salmonberry dates
Ava - Ana
Lava Katana
I mean it sounds better than 'lava banana' but I claim that would be a lot funnier (and could still have the same stats)
Better than "Lava Sword" at least
Terraria had the "Fiery Greatsword" but changed to "Volcano"
A tragic loss
did the sprite change too?
its rough, salmonberries or desert fest...
imo volcano sounds cooler though./.
Imagine renaming the Fiery Greatsword but not the Ivy Whip when whips were added for summoners, instead it's "Snapthorn"
Easiest way to confuse new players
I am now reminded of my eternal disappointment in Terraria for adopting a fucking class system for some reason years after the game came out
Alright I’ll try it here
To be fair, more replayability / variety in multiplayer
Me and my friends are trying to get the meowmere, and we’ve got the ancient doll and tried throwing it into lava but nothing happened
You can still use items of the "wrong" class if you want to
Are we missing something?
You need to interact with the lava
Not literally throw it in]
We tried
Did you right click the lava while holding the doll
Err
That's the problem
Describe the ancient doll
Thats 1.5
It doesn't exist yet
Oh, yeah 1.6 isn't out yet on console
Consoles didn't get the new update yet with the easter egg / reference / whatever you want to call it
Well poop
Cant do something that isnt in the game yes
OH MY GOD THIS IS TRUE PLEASE RENAME IT TO LIKE THE IVY HOOK OR SMTH
im very happy multiclass wasnt completely gutted ages ago
its fun to fuck around like that
More? All the fun weird hybrid items like Starfury that encouraged interesting mixed builds got pidgeonholed to fit the classes. There are more things than before, but it's now pidgeonholed into the 4 classes. If they'd kept building on the classless system with more items, we'd have so much more than 4
I think I heard that it was like the Star Wrath, but it used a lot of mana
you also needed to spam click
I suppose that feral claws didn't exist yet
its like as fucked up as how phasesabers were the best melee weapon in mobile
oh they worked on the sword, just not the projectile
thats the thing 😭
Old Starfury was great. Even when you ran out of mana, you could still swing the sword. And the sword bits all scaled with melee stuff, while the star bits all scaled with magic stuff
If you have the Steam version, you can go into the betas and enable "Undeluxe" mode. Which is one of the early 1.0.X updates. Not the most accurate way to say it, but it's good enough.
yes. old starfury is still old starfury there
is that the version that comes with the bunny pet
Yup
me and my partner have done 3 full playthrus of terraria
im so good at this
each time he's continued to just use starfury, even when we're at moon lord
i have a screenshot of him poking away at a pirate ship outside our hallow pylon with starfury's stars
For a while I was working on a grand reversion mod that sought to try adapt the modern stuff back to match the pre-1.2 paradigms
he's a keeper
i do love him a lot
please do not delete summoner
its just so funny
does he like the star wrath?
It's okay, Summoner won't be deleted, it'll just have a seat next to the throwing damage type
he actually doesnt. even tho its literally just a straight upgrade of starfury
the only time he's ever used another sword is the one you get from killing betty
bc it can go thru blocks, which means he doesnt have to leave our base to kill stuff
You gotta get a group of 7 people or something, and each one of you uses a Zenith component
i.... mixing up summoner with throwing is a recipe for disaster
Why would I? I'm just deleting "summon damage" as a thing. Whips are melee, summons deal damage based on whatever their attack animation looks like. If it looks magicky, they deal magic damage.
well, what about now that starfury can hit through blocks?
do whips still buff the summons
Never got around to that
did I come back to a full on terraria chat?
Mod proved too big, my interest didn't last long enough
ahh i see, alright then
Yup
summoner being completely unique to terraria made me. really like it actually
terraria is sick
Does "Untitled Document(1)" fit
i can get the ranger and melee experience anywhere, but summoner is unique to terraria
and i LOVE it
im gonna guess thatmyou like melee?
I'll uh just check back in when we're back to stardew, carry on 😛
i must've killed like thousands of those stupid ice tortoises in the underground tundra looking for a fucking ice shell
pets..?
Minions
there's minions, sentries, and whips
i generally run a mix of melee/ranger, yeah
minions and sentries both work together with whips! i love the dynamic
HAHAAA nice!!
I blame CA for putting a full on crossover event into the game rather than just a small reference like all the other easter egg references
There's a melee weapon (Meowmere), a ranged accessory (Magic Quiver), and a magic "weapon" (Ice Rod)
Frog/Parrot/Fairy weren't summoned minion weapons in Terraria, though, were they?
immediately post-hardmode, the setup i go for is frost armor with the drippler crippler (bc it does INSANE damage for something you can get as soon as hardmode starts), shadowflame knives, and the uzi
all propped up with a flask of ichor
i rlly love maces/flails in terraria. i wish an update would add more
oh are the quiver and rod terraria things then?
as a non player I have no idea about any of that
nah
well. the magic quiver is also in terraria but it does something completely different
The ice rod doesn't exactly behave this way either
yeah the ice rod in terraria just lets you place temporary ice blocks down right
yes! still mad useful
is it really adopting pets if you buy them?
I think the magic quiver in Terraria increases arrow speed and damage, you can upgrade it to also make the arrows fiery using a magma stone (Which, by itself, makes melee attacks fiery)
The ice rod is both a weapon, and a building tool
consider it a fee for the adoption papers, vaccinations and all that
the first cat or dog you get you dont pay for at all though
do you just completely neglect the first pet?
no, that's just found, not arranged for via an animal adoption center 😛 you don't think Marnie keeps a bunch of purple turtles in the back room, do you?
she might, who knows
I think we would have seen an article in the Stardew valley Times if something like that were going on. (Although, even in this very small town, people seem to be generally oblivious, c.f. Marie and Lewis)
are you suggesting that marnie is running an illegal puppy mill
shane did have like 200 blue chickens in the back room and nobody knew, soo
nobody told the farmer about it, you mean 😛
precisely 
kinda gotta wonder how much stuff is going on behind closed doors that the farmer just never hears about but everyone in town knows...
i mean. it wld make sense
where the hell is she getting all these dogs cats and turtles
I mean, the same thing could be going on with the turtles
tis gonna rain green no?
Wonder if everyone is oblivious or if it's just Penny that can't see it
that doesn't have to do with the green rain, the beach is just green for 3 days in the summer and there's a lot more forage
The ocean is just green for a few days mid summer, not related to the green rain
Is Penny in denial?
does the wizard also just keep a lot of junimos hostage for the junimo huts
penny doesnt think marnie and lewis are a thing so she is pretty oblivious
cause, when I placed a junimo hut from the junimo catalogue, no junimo seems to be moving in, which is kind of suspicious
Yeah, the question becomes whom else is oblivious.
...Shane probably knows.
Maybe the Junimos can sense your intentions
shane's probably traumatized from that
shane lives with marnie he has to know
Another reason driving him to drink
So if you build one at the Wizard's house, the intention is to hire the Junimos, but if you use a decorative house from the catalogue, it's just decoration
exactly
And plus, it could just be the equivalent of a plastic dollhouse to them. Hollow and unpainted on the inside
i mean i imagine its not particularly hard to make a junimo hut
it looks like its just mud bricks and grass roof
but, we don't pay them, so that isn't exactly hiring them
What do you think the 20,000g is for when building a hut?
the only payment they might get is raisins, and only if the farmer is nice enough to give them some
i just got a mango sapling from a tiger slime how???
They're fake huts that lack actual internal living space clearly. The magical huts from the wizard come with all the mystical amenities forest spirits need for comfortable living
buying the junimos from the wizard for them to work in your farm
I think the 9 starfruit might be part of the payment too
you think the wizard doesn't just take the gold and starfruit for his own purposes??
the wizard might just be looking for an excuse to snack on some starfruit
Special drops, I've got 2 or 3
They do know and understand money, judging by the vault bundles
They're not purple, so no
k thank you
Is there a way to garuntee the 6 roe (max) from a chest when fishing?
Probably had to buy the materials to fix it
I'm trying to get 3 iridium legends and their 6 roe
solar essences aren't purple either, just sayin
The wizard is neutral towards starfruit
Not at all
6 junimos in a trench coat heading to zuzu city for materials
kinda wanna see the comic strip for that now
They gonna pull a Sonic and open a portal. Steal some oreo thins and leave a 20 on the shelf
do you get more roe if you catch 3 fish with challenge bait or is it always 1-6 per chest?
On the other hand, who do we know that keeps stars of some variety in their huts? The junimos from the CC, that's who
omg i didn't knew we could get those in the big size
We know that the Junimos may or may not have the ability to open portals since they gave the Terrarian a starfruit one time in exchange for a Joja Cola
It's not even 1-6 per chest, it's 1/4 for the chest to have any at all, and then it's 1-3, and then another chance at doubling it, iirc
I don't think it's possible to get 5 roe in a fishing chest
Yeah but is it always 1-6? it won't be 1-18 if you catch 3 fish?
No
Yeah cause that would have to be 2.5 roe originally before doubling
which one of these is better ignoring the enchantment?
same with how the shafts work in skull cavern
Number of fish caught has no impact on chest loot
I guess that makes sense since the 1-3 fish isn't necessarily attached to the amount of roe you get from the single treasure chest
I can't believe I'm saying this to you... but WRONG 🤓
You have a higher chance of getting a golden token if you catch 3 (99%) rainbow trouts as opposed to 1 (33%) or 2 (66%)
(the nerd is me)
Defense vs speed your choice
Galaxy hammer can become infinity gavel, at least
negate 2 damage or you like swinging your galaxy hammer
So if the stars may align, I'm gonna get 3 iridium legends size 51 inch today with 6 legend roe
And I'm gonna keep resetting till I do
Wait what
Gold tags aren't chest loot , you get them even if you didn't get a chest
that's the terraria side of the crossover
okay you outsmarted me
though i just assumed it was the dryad creating the portal
hey nonparelli remember we talked about limiteds
today I'm getting 3 iridium legends and 6 legend roe
yeehaw !!!
Oh shit, fun!
(oh god not the fandom wiki)
do u guys know what happens during the desert festival if the desert is decorated/has many trees? i usually keep solar panels and plant a ridiculous amount of trees there for batteries and wood collecting
Terraria - You can fish up Joja Cola alongside regular trash items with a bad fishing setup (Wooden fishing rod, tiny pond, etc) Then "purify" the cola at the Dryad NPC to open a portal. A Junimo comes out and gives you a Stardrop which allows you to summon a pet Junimo. "A fruit from another world, the taste is like a dream..."
There is also a blue chicken egg which summons a blue chicken. "A regular blue chicken egg" "The nametag says 'Shane'"
it just uses an alternate map instead, all your stuff will come back after festival ends
animation canceling
OHH that’s great news thank you !!!
i was talking damage wise 👍
Oh welp then galaxy hammer
Stardew - Toss an ancient doll into the "lava" at Floor 100 of the mines, similar to how you summon the Wall of Flesh boss fight by throwing a guide voodoo doll into lava in the underworld. Get a far away stone which is the gem of a forest pylon, then head to the Wizard's basement and put the stone onto the pylon base.
Because squid fest uses the same map I had my stuff broken by minor NPCs that come visit the valley
Same with the ocean maps during the winter festivals.
Cat comes out, gives you Meowmere, an end-game sword of Terraria which shoots Nyan Cat projectiles.
You never lose anything except the crab pot output for festival days
so basically my things are mostly safe during festivals
except maybe fishing frenzies?
Yep.
lovely, thanks!
I knew about this half since I've been reading about it.
I didn't know about the Terraria side due to having not played it in years
Is it the same with the desert festival btw?
Should make new maps for villager pathing TBH
Yo Sicarious do you have any tip for my 3 iridium legends 6 roe run
Currently my strat is using cork bobbers to get perfect on the legend but I understand treasure bobber would be better
I gotta pray for that 6 roe lol
dammit. accidentally blew up my haunted mannequin when trying to move it. What's the best way of getting a new one?
Slay moar skulls I guess
yeah, that's what I thought
shouldn't you reset the day? and haunted skulls with burglar's ring and max luck is your best bet
max daily luck + lucky rings and lucky lunch
Does luck even affect enemy drops?
I'm 99% sure that yes
It was 1:30am so couldn't be bothered
its not the end of the world, I'd just like to have one again
At least you can swing by that side path with the coal deposit spawns while you're at it
I'm late game so coal is not an issue.
If you know what you are doing coal is never an issue.
I have like 700+ on the 22nd of spring year 1
but yeah, guess I'll be doing quarry mine and levels 70-79 for a while ( l always have the alt mines on)
luck affects some special drops but I don't know which ones
Well burglar's ring is a must tho
She has 1.6 villager pathing up.
Daily luck affect some monster drops and some not
...If indeed the mannequin is on the skull's burglar ring loot table
Burglar ring just rolls the loot table another time
Huh? there isn't a "burglar's ring" drop table
it's the same table rolled twice
The accompanying article was more fun to read than expected
No, the burglar ring doesn't use the standard drop table
Hahaha.
Yes it does. It rolls the loot table twice
There isn't a specific burglars ring loot table
...This might be worse than the "marry Penny to move her back into a trailer" plan I had
If that were true, the possessed doll farm would yield nothing.
Wrong. Each monster type has a loot table called "additional loot" that Burglar's Ring adds to the existing drop table. On top of this, some (but not all) of the rare drops that add extra items are added twice if you have Burglar's Ring (this is why burglar's ring causes double drops at same frequency for some rare items, rather than doubling how frequently they drop)
Unless CA has changed how the ring works I'm pretty sure it just rolls the same table twice. Which is how you can get two prismatic jelly.
It does not and it never has
You are trying to argue with a person who datamines and reads the game code
Oh heck, does the Wiki still say it just doubles drops
The double prismatic jelly is part of the sketchy stuff that I mentioned with some extra drops getting doubled when added to the drop list
It's 100% not worth the effort of explaining how it actually works
It does still say that 
Because it's a clusterfuck of spaghetti code meant to approximate rolling for drops twice
(The topic at hand was the cursed mannequin)
Is that one doubled by the Burglar ring, at least?
they are so shiny
But it's not actually rolling twice because CA wanted to exclude some stuff
Does the monster compendium work like the burglars ring them?
Like prismatic shard drops
Nope
How does that work then?
Compendium causes an item to duplicate itself upon successful drop
Lol that’s hilarious.
in what order should the masteries be claimed?
Haven't looked at that myself, but from talking to other people about it, Monster Compendium literally just takes whatever the final drops are and doubles them
Only secondhand info so I might be wrong on that front
Farming priority is the popular answer. Then it depends on your game style after farming.
Me personally:
Farming>fishing>foraging>mining>combat
if you have large fields of crops, the farming mastery will ease their use in the game considerably, and the xp gained will be very helpful for the other masteries
after that, it all depends, as FST says

WAIT HOW TF AM I SUPPOSED TO GET 333 MOSS 999 SAP 999 FIBER AND 999 STONE
fiber during the summer green rain event, moss the same, stone: just get yourself over to the mines or the quarry
But yeah, burglar's ring not actually doubling drops results in fun stuff like causing cursed doll enemies, which normally drop nothing, to drop bat wings... because they're actually just resprited bats, and the code that purges their loot table forgot to purge the additional drops table
or if you have the fiber seeds recipe, do that for the fiber
It's actually not that bad, the sap accumulates from tree cutting
yeah but 333 moss
Lol you’re really getting a kick out of her website. 😂 I never noticed the snarky stuff until now.
huh, TIL
can you really get 333 from 1 green rain event
oh sure
No I think it drops everything again
prioritize scything all the things, don't do anything else except animal care
It's almost completely useless technical knowledge
Doubling what you would have gotten
yes but it's interesting almost completely useless technical knowledge
Actually, I don't know if Burglar's Ring and Hot Java Ring work together, I should look into that
Question about the statue of blessing, does the prismatic butterfly have a time limit? I've searched the valley for it a few times, I've found it 3 times and 3 times I started later in the day and couldn't find it.
i always liked to think this is a mental thing for pam
since her 8 heart event is her having a crisis over how she cant change
she probably doesnt think she deserves to sleep in a bed
fiber seeds
sap is easy if you chop trees stone is easy if you mine
The 333 moss is the hard one
You know, I wish the wiki would have an extra row for rings saying "stacks"? and then yes/no
Cause I'm guessing the rings that don't stack are Burglar's, Napalm, Slime Charmer, Phoenix, Savage, Yoba, warrior and I THINK Hot Java Ring and Sturdy Ring.
moss is either grinding or green rain day
for me most difficult part was to get fiber
You can go Into the infected caves in the severs to get a bunch of fiber
yeah
Yeah that too but it's once per day right?
Depending on where you are in the game also can make fiber easier. Get like 5 deconstructors and run grass starters through them. 50 fiber every hour.
Yeah but it's a lot
but fiber seeds i guess is the most reliable and no-effort way
Fibre is very easy once you have walnut room access
anything special about about chub frenzy in the mountain lake?
Is it just me or is Meadowlands Farm not being talked about a lot here?
but i can't craft them a lot
The only negative is it takes a while to reset but its a great change of pace
I'm on it, I like it
👆🏻
Fish chubs
It's a nice farm but kinda basic.
Finally, someone who also likes Meadowlands 😭
It's nice and pretty, but only affects some people, whereas the new mechanics and other features affect everyone
Grass Starter into the Deconstructor gets you cheap fiber.
In my case, fiber is the only material I'm short on in y1, and I'm planning to plant a lot of Fiber Seeds anyway at the end of winter
Meadowlands is great, pretty and gives you blue grass early
but you need many deconstructors
Free coop and chickens are really helpful in the early game
i like meadowlands, its like they made a farm for meeeeee~ cause i alwasy do alot of animals instead of crops
No.
I definitely like the free coop part of it 
there has been a lot of buzz about it in this channel earlier, now it's just from time to time as the activity around the update calms down somewhat
5ish or so. Run every hour. That’s 50 fiber per hour.
I liked starting out with chickens already, and I cut down all the green grass so now my farm is covered in exclusively blue
problem is that means you need to be doing work all day near the deconstructors (I'm usually running around and would only get to them twice a day)
any way to start blue grass or just have to wait for it to grow on its own?
grass starter recipe from the walnut room
Meadowlands is optimal for my "minimum earnings + no travelling cart" challenge run 
sweet!
yes play meadowlands
On any farm other than meadow, you need to buy the recipe
No I get that. But if you need to do the crafting recipe and you’re prioritizing fiber, better getting fiber this way than slaving away at the mines.
Imagine if they have a farm layout that gives a free barn instead 😅
Pigs early, damn
if you're spending a day in the mines you might be doing a few other things there at the same time. (if you really are only grinding fiber, then I agree)
I was thinking of early cows but oh well
free deluxe barn... never gonna happen 😛
Yeah to each their own, I guess.
Right but I was thinking you don't have to wait for Robin to build the barn 3 times. Only 2
I plant some fiber seeds in winter if I get close to only one stack left, works ok
We have a free coop farm already so why not a free barn farm this time? 👀
Free house upgrade farm
barn: maybe. deluxe barn: umnope
Yeah honestly I use fiber seeds too. For the additional benefit of trying to get the living hat. 😡
That makes it worth it
Free 100% farm 
allow me to brag one more time about having gotten it in early spring on this save 😛
I hadn't played the game in years so when I was making my new farm it was a tough choice between 4 corners and default but I went with default for the space, meadowlands sounds interesting for lots of animals and my friends playthrough together we picked that, the early chickens was nice
Across my 7 files, not once. I’m super jealous lol.
4 corners is so cool because it gives you a quarry and a pond for fishing
4 saves, got it on first and last one! unbelievable luck. on first save I had no idea of its value so put it in a chest....
I got the living hat by accident
The chickens I got were brown and white at my save 
I have never naturally gotten Living Hat.

Yeah that's guaranteed
how do you get the living hat?
I got the trash can hat on my first save and chucked it… in the trash lol. I was like “this is useless.” 😂
I've only ever gotten Living Hat from farming it
Lol RNG gods smiled upon you.
I've tried so hard to get the trash hat and I'm in autumn year 1 with no luck
A lot of people haven't, I think I have ~2.5khrs and I've only gotten it 2 times
1/100,000 chance from breaking a weed.
Or 1/10,000 chance from killing a wilderness golem
trash can hat onl y on this save, no others
I'm probs pretty close to odds at this point
I got the trash hat very early on (summer, Y1)
you mean never "accidentally"?
btw do iridium golems spawn on maps other than wilderness? I have never seen them even with shrine of night terrors enabled
Never got it without a specific farming strat for it
both times I got the living hat while just clearing out the beginning farm debris. as Yoba intended. 😛
I’m spending extra time on 1.6 when it comes to console. The hat. Will. Be. Mine.
Both times I got living hat, it was from savescumming with bombs strat
Idk how I have 7 lucky rings, 3 garbage hats, a living hat and a hair bone. I don't know what I did.
I have a Switch but not buying Stardew Valley on that
I would like to know this too, though I'd never act on the information (because iridium golems spawn at combat 9+ but freaking serpents spawn at combat 10)
I'm taking this save very slow considering I haven't played since before multiplayer came out
Plant and bomb, no hat, reset?
a few things are familiar but so much has changed
Made a lot easier in 1.5 by the addition of GI, which is way easier to stockpile weeds on
8-player Multiplayer definitely worth it
Haha I've had a couple serpants but never an iridium golem
fr it's super fun to get the squad together for stardew
Can't plant weeds, just need to let them grow and try prune other obstacles. Best done on GI since weeds all die in winter on the mainland
That reminds me.
Is there a fast way to un-fertilize soil on GI for when I pivot from DSG Starfruit to DRS AF?
I even had iridium bats spawn spring year 1
A lot has changed, take your time! It's great.
totally different game with multiple hands, in my friends game I'm the fisher expert
Until and retil
Wait… so fiber seeds don’t count? Well then this is gonna be a nightmare to get. Lol
That's it, huh. Because season-changes don't happen there, I'm guessing 
Yup, fibre seeds are not weeds.
if you were to start a new file with 1m gold where would you spend it
On the casino. All in on slots baby!!!!
I don't know if I've ever just left soil empty TBH
Clint's, overwhelmingly. Just buy out all the ores to rush tool upgrades.
probably tools but getting them all to iridium would still leave you with like 850k lol
With 1.6, backpack, joja route, starfruit (maybe not because lack of sprinklers), golden walnut parrot.
I'm sure I'd buy too many seeds then get overwhelmed watering them all
as is tradition
Unlimited normal sprinklers
i see i see
Since you can just buy the resources
Ah true.
books from bookseller maybe?
I'm glad I bought the seeing price book early, worth it tbh
sandy is so cute at the desert festival
Steel mining pick before even entering the mines
instead of trying ( and failing usually) to calculate the prices by hand or with wiki help
sandy is so cute at the desert festival
If I'm selling it I'm selling it and the price doesn't really matter lol
I only actually care about price in the planning phase
And that's done before the item ever touches my inventory
if she were a marriage candidate she would be unstoppable
There is mods for that. Just saying. (Sandy is so cute and I wish she was a marriage candidate in base game)
I'm really excited to live with krobus
i have 600+ hours in sdv and most of them were spent on two perfection runs, i've made a fresh save file for 1.6 (20 something hours in) and i love reliving all the heart scenes
he was iconic before you could move in with him and I definitely want him because the bachelors aren't my favourite
dehydrator vs brewary which is better?
I want the cursed love triangle plot where the ever-oblivious Emily tries to set Clint up with Sandy because she thinks they'd be sweet together. Clint doesn't realise and thinks Emily has finally decided to give him a chance when she invites him for dinner, only for her to show Sandy in and leave the two "lovebirds" together
It'd be so in-character for Emily in particular
those mods are godsends for people who were disappointed when they found out robins already taken lmao
I love Demetrius and Robins relationship but I was very put out at first
(I have the romacable robin mod on rn for my current playtrough)
she a girlboss queen
Keg gets more money per crop, so kegs are better if you have enough to process all your crops as fast as you produce them. Dehydrators process more crops for cheaper though, so are better early on when you don't have access to lots of kegs.
Cursed affair where you marry Robin while dating both her kids lol
i have like 50 dehydrators, that is going to be a problem
Emily got more votes than her, alas
Well I never really get that far except on my y20 farm
I usually play until year 3 then start a new playtrough
The classic playstyle
i just realized the desert fair, apart from emily's birthday, is one of the rare occasions sandy gets to do anything and/or interact with the farmer
I think I want to perfection this playthrough of mine but I'm not going to commit to it just in case I decide not to
justice for my girl sandy
I mean what can I say. I .mostly enjoy the early game of struggling
Guys the birds in Volacno island are the same kind always but appear differently?
Efter year 1 it kinda gets more and more boring imo
Playing until year 3 used to be the norm back in the early days when the "end of the game" was Grandpa's Evaluation.
Ruby - Aquamarine - Topaz - Amethyst
I like getting to the point where I can do what I want on the farm (which usually entails a lot of decorating, nope that sucks, redecorating, hmm don't like that either, redecorating...)
I know one goal I am sticking to is getting 99 million gold
Do you guys have any tips for my 3 iridium legends 6 roe run
Currently my strat is using cork bobbers to get perfect on the legend but I understand treasure bobber would be better
I gotta pray for that 6 roe lol
Oh yeah I usually quit before then. (I hate grandpa)
5 options, of which 4 are used each save, in random positions.
No repeats though.
cause I wanted to do that on my last playthrough like 6-7 years ago but the save got corrupted in autumn year 3 :(
What is the fifth option?
Which Stone?
Emerald
I think I was at 2 million at the time
It depends on how consistently you can get perfect catch. Personally, if I could get a Rainy + Blessing of Waters day, I'd even consider double treasure
Since 16 fishing by itself makes 82.5 difficulty pretty doable
Not sure if it can rain on desert festival days, I presume no
If it can, then 19 fishing is possible even
Why arent all the beds showing up in the furniture catalogue for me?
wdym unavailable?
like i wan tpirate bed and apparently its meant to be in the catalogue but i cant find it?
Um, well...
The day is desert festival (can grab a shrimp donut), rainy, blessing of waters and I have a master rod and a seafoam pudding.
Yet I'm still worried about not getting a perfect catch. I'm not the best at fishing.
It is not available in the catalogue, it's exclusive to Penny's 14 heart event
Was changed in 1.6. Was originally exclusive to the heart event, then in 1.5 was added to furniture catalogue, then in 1.6 they added the decals from the event to the Desert Festival but removed the beds so you couldn't just get all the stuff from her 14 heart event without actually doing it, like all the other spouses
any special fish during the green rain event?
I think it acts like regular rain for fish
yeah, no special fish
Does dried magma caps sell for a lot?
i imagine pickling them would be more profit?
3025g without artisan, so 605g per magma cap
847g per magma cap with artisan
they do, but it's not worth it
unless you have absoloutely masses of them
yeah, pickling them would be way better
oh wow a prismatic butterfly just dropped me a prismatic shard
it's only ever given me money
I have still yet to find one
same. although now I don't have a need for prismatic shard drops
but money
same, but I still get a small thrill from finding one
just remember that you can only enter a map area once, else it will disappear.
I mean I think it's just cause the SVE map is really really big
So, for example, if you go to the mountains, you need to look all over the mountains before going to the train station
How do the Fish Frenzy spots look like, does the game notify you when one shows up, and is it at a fixed time so you can restart the day to better plan your route?
Game notifies you
They look like bubbles with fish hopping out of the water, yes it notifies you, no idea
I had one that appeared by the tunnel to the desert, but I was on the trail to the mountins, and when I went back via the bus stop, the butterfly was gone
This is what a fish frenzy looks like
Cool. So it's like basically Fish Bubbles but better. 
Or worse, if it's something stupid like Carps or Chubs
Fixed time but the exact species may change
Catfish, Sturgeon, Super Cucumber... that's the good stuff
I'll still take Chubs. Carp Frenzy is such poop tier though.
minow frenzie
the issue I've found with my frenzies is they're always right next to land so they're always base tier >:(
Hopefully SVE also implements the frenzy. Would love a Butterfish/Puppyfish/King Salmon frenzy. 
Lava Eel Frenzie 🤤
carp surprise is a thing
They have, I've gotten frenzies from SVE fish
If I want it, I fish in the sewer
Literal shit tier fish
lol
I rather like the environment of the mountain lake for fishing as opposed to the ewww stinky sewer
Forest River Fish Frenzy on Day 3 could well be worth seeding for for some challenge runs
Then reset day for catfish
That's not it. Carps are the only thing that spawns in there, I believe
Excellent. Time to further break my new save file with the SkipFishingMinigame mod. 
and the mutant one I guess
smh
PC is for shenanigans, Switch is for purist experience. 
I wonder what the odds are for trash in the sewers as opposed to everywhere else
It's at least much lower than floor 80, ironically.
Imma guess 2nd highest rate.
omg there is a fishing bite sound you can change?? wut TIL
I don't think sewer actually has any particular boost to trash rates
it should
It's just that there's only other 3 items on the catch list
Rolls for Carp, Green Algae, White Algae in random order, and if they all fail then you get random trash
oh the algae, right
algae = trash
In my mind
Which is more likely than getting trash from places with more items in the catch list
So I lost my iridium scythe.. I cannot go back to picking up crops one by one.. I am ruined.
restart days?
wait it's not supposed to be an item you can lose
How did you even manage that?
But idk when I lost it.
not sus at all
not in lost and found, any crate, etc?
It is probably in a chest somewhere
I don't know but I've checked every chest like 10x times. and lost and found
I swear it is just not.

I wonder if the save file format lets you check for something like that using text search tools
Maybe the game could give you a second as a failsafe when you go back to the mastery room
would be busted in co-op
Can't see how, since the scythe isn't sellable or enchantable
It's not like the perfection statue with a few iridium nuggets per day
Probably, since most new item IDs are names rather than numbers now
Shouldn't be necessary since it's meant to be impossible to lose
my entry in the savegame info xml file says it's a melee weapon 😄 it also says "<isLostItem>false</isLostItem>" so that's interesting
<currentParentTileIndex>66</currentParentTileIndex>n I wonder what that means
What's the word for when something has a failsafe, and a failsafe for the failsafe in case the first one fails?
Redundancy protocol?
This is very embarrasing. I spent 4 in-game days looking. I did find it now... just as I complained about it.
I swear bitchin about things always helps
xd
you know what I don't care as long as you found it, congrats!
If nothing else there is the therapeutic value
haha, true. 
I can put up with almost anything as long as I can complain about it
Why did my train of thought go "Redundancy protocol, curiosity rover on Mars, Twitch Chat sending commands to move a rover on another planet, full DougDoug style"
My brain is 404ing with those two catalogues on top of one another
Got this my first desert festival but I was like 4 eggs short, now, year 4, finally George was there again. 
They're really buddy buddy
Only 36% in 2 years 
Well tbf, a lot of the things you have left are not terribly time consuming? (granted that you have saved crops for cooking)
But really, how have you only cooked 2% 
Only cooking sashimi and fried egg until year 2💪

just need the jumino one now 
^ exactly that
uhh
waaahhhh, I am so jealous of that trash catalouge.
just gotta dig through all the trash
I do...!!
what do u use mytic syrup for
1 is required to ship and can be traded with the raccoons for fairy dust
i got juniml by pure luck on traveling cart
Are the big quests (forgot what they are called ) now more frequent or am i delusional?
ugh im only on the "now we'll make a family"
Woah, didn't know this item existed. Now I need to farm the skulls 
dig through all on lucky days
literally why, I wanted gold quality ones aaaa
Think you gotta dig through like 25(?) cans and then after that, every can you dig in has a large chance of giving you the catalogue
blue grass starter, and also treasure totems (which spawn the circle of artifact spots)
Thats crazy
I don't know if luck buffs impact that, isn't it seeded to the save?
I'll keep trying my luckkk
I got it immediately after starting to dig through cans
I got the trash catalogue on my first month year 1 
I thought it was later found to be a tiny chance
i'm pretty sure luck doesnt matter, I saw it on the stardew predictor
Mouseypounds' predictor can find it for you, ye
Did the rarity change?
hii updated the fishing calculator with jelly
https://brokencygnus.github.io/stardew-fishing-calc/home
yeah, next one for me is fall year 4 and im in winter year 3
I CANT GIVE GIFTS DURING GREEN RAIN???
so turns out you need fishing level as low as possible for jellies to have the maximum chance
wow the chance for sea jelly is so dang low, that explains it
i dont think so aventurine pfp
Thank you arlecchino pfp
your welcome hsr fan
that's awesome! thank you!
please help share it! Sicarious and I took a long time figuring out the calculations
there's an explanation in the code (it's open source) if anyone's interested
feeling glad I have a flounder fish pond right now
if I plant winter seeds on winter 28, will the plots still be preserved on spring 1? Trying to preserve fertilizer but my dumb self cleared the powdermelons with no time left
no unless you plant fiber seeds
If you're pc you can just download a mod to keep watered soil
I know if a crop goes into a season it doesn't grow, it becomes dead plants but the plots still stay
there is no winter crop that can carry over, fiber is your only option. the forage seeds (wild seeds) never carry over from one season to the next
you'll have some odds for some tiles to become untilled
If there is no crops, a lot will be untilled
I dunno if my question is coming across, but I guess I'll just find out
dead plant is equivalent to not having a crop there, I believe
maybe you could put it in your profile, if youre allowed to?
Winter forage, powdermelon, fiber?
oo that's a really useful tool, I'm definitely saving it
they still should be preserved yes
ok I am correcting myself, dead plants do not act like no crops. they indeed keep the tile preserved
as long as crops are on a plot, they will not go untilled
good idea, I don't have nitro but I'll set it up on my discord profile, thanks!
Well that's a cool alternate layout
That layout would piss me tf off it's so long
I need to look for a ladder here now tho
the random cliff just for the ladder

💔
the new layouts kill me
it's nice to see something new tho
arle savings r going to aswell
I hit one of those 'many islands in a sea of lava' layouts in the volcano dungeon the other day, truly annoying
May I introduce you this layout?
you can't really see what's on any of the others than the one you're on, they might have a chest or some other useful thing...
I've caught like 50 prismatic butterflies and never got a shard, only monies
eel
long one too
more gold though
instant staircase right there
lmao
I've only found 3, and I found this one on accident lol
I think I'm just gonna mentally prepare and then use 2 treasure bobbers
prismatic shards after a certain point just kind of become useless though
HOW DO YOU DO SOMETHING WITH BUTTERFLIES
eh magic rock candy I guess
||statue of blessings||
Staircase immediately
what would magic rock candy even be useful for
true
skull cavern records
anything where you want a lot of luck
if you already at the limit of the game might as well set challenge yourself
"How deep can I go in skull caverns"?
doesn't luck barely affect anything?
well it actually does a lot
you get like 5 stacks of staircases and you just spend all day just going down
it affects extra ore from nodes, ladder spawns, panning (with the new iridium pan! includes clothing drops), and other stuff
iirc the wiki said it only did very little stuff
except if you get shafts you could go down even more floors per day
I think ladder spawns are only affected by daily luck
speaking of sc
I'm going for a record today
it's 10am and I'm at floor 60 already
Doesnt affect as much as maybe you'd expect, but still affects a lot and can dictate what you shouldnt do on a given day
I got twice 10+ shafts
and dwarf statue
hm I could be wrong about that or not remembering right
Perfect luck and ladder/shaft blessing
niceee
That saves a lot of day time, even with pause-buffering staircases
Wiki says it does a lot
I think shafts are the key to breaking records if you can find a reliable way to spawn lots
what is this.
hm wiki thinks that luck buffs do not differ from daily luck as far as ladders (it lists the differences)
Mystery boxes can now be found
go do things, cut trees, fish, kill monsters.... and you'll see
CS;GO crates Qi style
it doesnt mention ladders in the regular luck section
https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Luck#Luck_Buff_Effects for future reference, as to luck buffs vs daily luck
hi guys, can I ask how can I load a tapper on the green rain trees? It's just not working
you don't
No sadly
oh, interesting
the fiddlehead fern trees can take tappers but not the other ones
because the stardew wiki says we could
Good to know
confused
Wiki isn't 100% accurate all the time though
you tap them and they create moss juice (I'm kidding)
yeah true
How what
they are in the daily luck section and not listed in the "luck buff effects" section as to things impacted by daily luck and not by luck buffs.
it was a joke, should've clarified that lol sry
thank you guys!
Omg my bad lol

no worries
I feel dumb after that 😆
nah, there's lots of little details in the game mechanics, too many for anyone to keep track of
Fair
yeah exactly ^
hard to know if someone is joking because some stuff is so surprising in here 😄
Fr
Yesterday I spent the entire day browsing reddit, the stardew forums and the wiki to find a list of rings that stack and rings that don't
It's baffling I found nothing
Really so much to keep track of in the game
"new pickaxe upgrade!"
Who let lil bro enchant his pickaxe with Reaching
God i need that
dam the green rain got me so much fiber
it'd be really annoying to do sc runs and stuff with that with the little delay
Would love that for removing DSG en masse to replace with DRS
43k earn today sheesh
bombs have a delay too though
yeah but every rock just having a tiny delay would kinda suck
I mean when not charging it
not the time it takes to actually charge
gemologist and mining mastery go along crazy well
I'm imagining you would only use it for larger clusters, just like bombs. only it's free instead of costing 1k (but also uses stamina)
+book to earn diamonds
But you gotta stop in place to use it
And it doesn't have a 360° affect
no, you'd have to learn to approach a cluster from the right angle for optimal use
I don't think I'd take it even if it were available, but it might be worth testing out just to see
yeah, I'm saying the tiny delay when just trying to hit once with it
like the hoe and the watering can have, when you just use them for 1 tile
I suppose one could animation-cancel that away?
it's at the start of the animation, though
Isn't that just the same delay when pickaxe is unupgraded...?
I don't get it
when you upgrade the hoe it has a tiny extra delay at the start, you hold it in the air for a bit longer
I'm not getting the difference between those and the axe let's say. but maybe I'm just not observant enough
so we're just saying what if pickaxe had an upgrade that charged like that