archived-update-spoilers

[mellow atlas]

[hidden ore]

(now that I don't need them for anything, heh)

[mellow atlas]

mans hit the jackpot

[glacial zephyr]

does volcano dungeon reset daily?

[hidden ore]

yes it does, new layouts, new monsters, new loot each day

[ripe osprey]

New? I don't remember being able to see weapon stats in Clint's geode menu!

[harsh plover]

ABBY YOU PICKED THE WORST TIME TO GO DOWN HERE

[broken portal]

makes it all the more impressive

[glacial zephyr]

opinions on trinckets (which is best)?

[ripe osprey]

How the fuck is Abby in the mines lmao

[broken portal]

parrot

[ripe osprey]

Parrot

[glacial zephyr]

really?

[ripe osprey]

Some will say Ice Rod, i say Skill Issue

[mellow atlas]

how did she go down there

[glacial zephyr]

i like to use perfect quiver rn

[ripe osprey]

Golden Spur is very fun too, makes you go very fast

[broken portal]

10 heart event i think?

[ripe osprey]

Quiver is annoying as hell tho, pushes back aerial enemies so far

[mellow atlas]

freezer

no no no, 10 hearts she doesn't go down the ladder or elevator, she just hides on floor zero

[glacial zephyr]

true true

[broken portal]

12 hearts then

i know its one of the heart events

[golden pond]

Max level Parrot racks up insane amount of money considering you are constantly fighting enemies

[crude talon]

mod or new ?

[glacial zephyr]

so how much money do you consistently get from parrot?

[hidden ore]

I like the ice rod for its somewhat chaotic impact on gameplay. when I get bored of that I'll switch to something else

[broken portal]

1.4

always was a thing

[ripe osprey]

Max level Parrot + Luck buffs + Lucky Ring + Max Luck + Monster Musk goes extremely hard

[crude talon]

ooo ive never seen her in the mines

[ripe osprey]

I got 2250g from a single slime at some point, on a neutral luck day...

[glacial zephyr]

damn

[ripe osprey]

And 4k from 3 dust sprites

[golden pond]

[broken portal]

wiki says theres a chance she appears there after the 10 heart event

[ripe osprey]

Easily made 70k gold solely slaughtering monsters that day

[glacial zephyr]

idk if im just unlucky but i havent gotten a luckty ring yet?

[ripe osprey]

Keep panning, it's pretty rare

[glacial zephyr]

you pan for it?

[ripe osprey]

Keep your ears peeled for little water sounds, it means a panning spots appeared

[golden pond]

Now imagine that but in SC where you encounter a room with 5-6 giant slimes which all split into 4-5 smaller slimes

[ripe osprey]

Yes, or you get it through SC and Dangerous Mines barrels, with a very very low chance

[glacial zephyr]

i thought wiki said it a drop in skull caverns

ah right

so better chance panning

[ripe osprey]

Gonna have to do that eventually, only been doing it on dust sprites at most because i'm farming iron

Oh and, Hot Java Ring!

[golden pond]

fair yeah

[ripe osprey]

Makes you get gold and coffee from monsters, lol

[ripe osprey]

If you got time, run around every body of water in the valley on max luck days

[broken portal]

its a really good source of coal

[ripe osprey]

Max luck is when you have the most chance of getting one

[ripe osprey]

I have never ran out of coal, i love slaughtering dust sprites

[hidden ore]

if you have ginger island access, upgrade your pan to idirium and go to the dig site and pan on a great luck day

[broken portal]

best place to do panning is dig site

[ripe osprey]

Slaughtering is legit the most fun activity in this game for me xD

[hidden ore]

if you don't come away with (at least) one lucky ring, maybe re-evaluate your life choices 😄

[glacial zephyr]

where do iget a better pan?

[ripe osprey]

I bring death and destruction

[ripe osprey]

Upgrade it at Clint's!

[glacial zephyr]

okay

[hidden ore]

you upgrade your pan with Clint like all other tools (new to 1.6)

[broken portal]

i have more than that

[ripe osprey]

Only fall y2 👀

[broken portal]

multipy that by 3

its close enough

[ripe osprey]

All of em?

[hidden ore]

I think my most fun thing changes from day to day. sometmies I might just want to fish for awhile, other days to run around and collect forage, other days to whack things in skull caverns, and sitll other days to hang out with the villagers

[broken portal]

i have like no duggies

[ripe osprey]

Well, same

[golden pond]

I made the mistake of making Dust Sprites my last Slayer goal to complete lmfao

[ripe osprey]

Smhhh i literally complete that goal as soon as i reach level 120 in the mines

Reaching lvl 120 gives them the chance to drop prismatic shards, so it's the best time to get started

[broken portal]

going for insect head early could be a strategy now

[hidden ore]

the pepper rexes are usually my last one, because of the rarity of their floors

[ripe osprey]

Same

[mellow atlas]

I love the variety in this game. Even though from a wider perspective it's all just grinding, it never feels the same because there's so much diversity in the things you need to do.

[broken portal]

magma sprites technically

but no one cares about those

[mellow atlas]

my bad habit is stockpiling crafting resources without crafting things out of it

[ripe osprey]

Wha?!

[hidden ore]

I feel called out by this 😛

[ripe osprey]

Magma Sprites, i love em! They drop so many Cinder Shards!

[glacial zephyr]

what is max level for parrot?

[tough remnant]

4

[glacial zephyr]

ty

[mellow atlas]

same for fairy?

[hidden ore]

5 for fairy

[mellow atlas]

🤔 icic

[glacial zephyr]

lo, i got it on first reforge

[ripe osprey]

My first parrot egg ever dropped was level 4

My first fairy box ever dropped was level 5, too... i'm quite lucky!

[glacial zephyr]

mine was 1 but i just refoged and got it first try

[mellow atlas]

I've never seen a drop above level 2

[ripe osprey]

My first frog egg was prisma- nah just kidding, although it was a void frog!

[broken portal]

i got a perfet ice rod drop

and a 10 second spur

[ripe osprey]

I reforged for my 10 second spur, but i also got a perfect ice rod

Just missing the perfect quiver

[hidden ore]

it's taken some time from drops, but I have perfect/max level of fairy, quiver, spur, and nearly perfect (good enough) of ice rod. but only boring colours of frogs, heh

[glacial zephyr]

can i have multiple blessing active at one if i have multiple statues?

[broken portal]

i got a rapid quiver drop too but i accidentally reforged it

[mellow atlas]

what are the top 3 most useful trinkets?

[broken portal]

imo parrot, fairy box, spur

[short silo]

i wasted like 30 iridium bars on my first parrot before checking the wiki and seeing that its max level scales to your income

[hidden ore]

first off blessings are seeded so specific to the day, second they don't stack anyways

[robust imp]

after the 1.6.4 update my infinity blade is doing 20 more damage than before
is this a new feature?

or a bug fix of some sort

[broken portal]

bug fix

[short silo]

bug fix

[tough remnant]

Magic Hair Gel, Prismatic Frog Egg, and the rest are all useless because they lack glorious PC Gamer RGB

[broken portal]

the forges werent working properly

[ripe osprey]

rip

[maiden hedge]

What dose racoon do

[broken portal]

sell you stuff and give you stuff for quests

[maiden hedge]

Ok

[mellow atlas]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Giant_Stump

[hidden ore]

do you have a link for that? so I can add it to my collection of "stuff that changed in this update"

[robust imp]

depends on how u setup ur file
like if u have a farm earning a ton than fairy/frog is prob the best
if not parrot or spur depending on ur build

[robust imp]

ah thanks

[broken portal]

#bulletin-board

[hidden ore]

ah 1.6.4! I see, thank you

[ripe osprey]

Magic Hair Gel? i haven't gotten that yet

[broken portal]

alex sells it during the desert festival and a small chance from skull cavern chests

[tough remnant]

You buy it from Alex's shop at the Desert Festival once you have Combat Mastery. It makes your hair rainbow

[ripe osprey]

That's sick lol, too bad it uses a trinket slot

[tough remnant]

Huh? Second part isn't true

[broken portal]

it says it on the wiki

[tough remnant]

It shouldn't

I fixed that over a week ago

Someone just copypasted the stuff from other trinkets, but Magic Hair Gel has a tag that prevents it from randomly generating

[broken portal]

[tough remnant]

It's not in any of the random trinket pools

[broken portal]

i saw it on there yesterday

[ripe osprey]

Just opened 86 golden mystery boxes and didn't get a single auto-petter 😭

[broken portal]

should have traded them in for magic rock candy

[swift bay]

i dont see it on the wiki 🤷

[ripe osprey]

Magic Rock Candy is temporary, auto-petter is forever

[tough remnant]

I'm looking at it now, it does not say this anywhere

[broken portal]

welp

i guess it was fixed again

[hidden ore]

if you're not adverse to using the predictor, it can show you if an autopetter is in the list

[ripe osprey]

It doesn't change anyway, i will keep going until i get one

[broken portal]

you can use magic rock candy to skull mine or more autopetters

[ripe osprey]

Good point...

[hidden ore]

it doesn't change but you could open regular geodes or some other thing to move yourself forward in the list

[swift bay]

golden mystery boxes now have a chance to give you an autopetter

[ripe osprey]

Pretty sure i heard 30 minutes ago that they have their own list

And that geodes do not affect em

[hidden ore]

golden mystery boxes have their own pool. but the sequence index is shared with all geode types

[tough remnant]

Not so for mystery boxes

Mystery boxes have a separate index

[broken portal]

can you use regular mystery boxes to move golden mystery boxes forward then?

[tough remnant]

Opening mystery boxes advances the geode index, but opening geodes does not advance the mystery box index

[tough remnant]

Yes

[swift bay]

damn ive opened like 20 golden coconuts and haven't gotten the skull yet, the geode-like items feel like they screw you over sometimes lol

[hidden ore]

I understand differently from Mousey

[broken portal]

also whats the formula for geode crushers now?

[tough remnant]

No? The predictor accounts for this even

It's why mystery boxes aren't in the same tab as geodes

[hidden ore]

"The number of boxes opened is a cumulative count across all types. " it says this under the mystery boxes entry.

[broken portal]

blame clint 👍

[hidden ore]

there is a separate loot pool, so they must be in a different tab, yes

[tough remnant]

All types of mystery box

"Note also that while Mystery Boxes have their own counter and item pool (and are thus predicted in a different section of the app) having Clint open a Mystery Box of any type will also increment the geode counter."

[hidden ore]

I am not seeing that under the mystery box tab

[tough remnant]

That's on the geode tab, because opening mystery boxes affects geodes

But not the other way around

[hidden ore]

oh, because it is (somewhat annoyingly) only under the geodes tab

[tough remnant]

The mystery box thing is pretty clear that only opening boxes affects the count

[hidden ore]

your interpretation is likely right then, but it would be nice if there were clarifying text also on the mystery boxes entry.

[tough remnant]

Predicted results from opening all types of Mystery Boxes at Clint's Blacksmith Shop. The number of boxes opened is a cumulative count across all types.
No mention of anything other than mystery boxes there

But yeah, that's why it's in a separate tab

Because it doesn't use the same count

[hidden ore]

for those of us used to 'across all types' meaning 'all types of geodes', it is very easy to misread that. as I did.

mind you I am not knocking Mousey, this is a great app and clearly a lot of work went into it and continues to go into it.

[ripe osprey]

🤩 chees 🧀

[glacial zephyr]

best boots in the game?

[swift bay]

cinderclown shoes iirc

[ripe osprey]

Dragonscale if you don't care about debuffs or have the trinket

[hidden ore]

aren't the mermaid boots better? (than cinderclown)

[ripe osprey]

Mermaid boots if you don't mind trading 1 defense for 8 immunity

Cinderclown if you want that extra defense for a total of 6, but only have 5 immunity

(1 immunity = 10% chance to not get debuffed on-hit)

[tough remnant]

Mermaid Boots have highest stat total and highest immunity

Dragonscale has highest defence

[ripe osprey]

Mhm

[tough remnant]

Cinderclown is a compromise between the two

[sonic skiff]

but cinderclown shoes make funny sound

[tough remnant]

And they jingle yeah

[vapid wind]

ourple cheese

[vapid wind]

how do I get these I forgor

[tough remnant]

Crystal Shoes are also cool because white boots

[hidden ore]

but you can reliably get the cinderclown ones, I've never gotten the mermaid ones

[vapid wind]

i love crystal's shoes design

[tough remnant]

Got Mermaid Boots first try on my new save lol

[tough remnant]

Purple chests in the volcano

[reef prawn]

immunity is also not really as good as defense in most cases

[vapid wind]

oh

[tough remnant]

Yeah, it's better

[hidden ore]

thanks for the salt in the wound 😛

[subtle mauve]

yo my volcano chest luck is cracked

[tough remnant]

2 defence is pretty negligible, literally just -2 damage per hit, when you can heal over a hundred damage with a single piece of gold quality cheese

[ripe osprey]

If you really want defense, get crab-shell ring ig

[wise granite]

THE HAT IS SO FRICKEN CUTE??

[hidden ore]

after many many volcano dungeon runs, I have gotten: cinder shards, golden coconuts, way too many phoenix rings, a deluxe pirate hat and an ostrich egg, and not a single dragonscale or mermaid anything.

[ripe osprey]

Hmmm... hmmmmmm...... hmmmmmmmmm...

Chat is this real?

[swift bay]

how do you get that?

[ripe osprey]

Cursed Skull dropped it. It was a dangerous variant of em

[swift bay]

ooh ok

thanks

[tough remnant]

My volcano runs so far this save are: Mermaid Boots, Deluxe Pirate Hat, Soul Sapper Ring, and Phoenix Ring

[ripe osprey]

Can't wait to wake up and see my spouse strangled to death by a mannequin

[hidden ore]

oh I think I got a soul sapper ring too. right.

[tough remnant]

It's okay, it just stands over your bed and stares at you while you sleep. The eyes disappear a second after you wake up as well.

[hidden ore]

not going to mention the other side effects? 😄

[ripe osprey]

I will give it full plate armor.

May it fight honorably!

[swift bay]

aww its so cute

[tough remnant]

Oh yeah, they can also give you rare, unique flooring and wallpaper

[keen needle]

hello everyone
What happens to a desert tree farm during the Desert Festival? (pls ping)

[hidden ore]

... in place of whatever one-off wallpaper you might have bought and placed

[tough remnant]

And swap clothes with you in your sleep

[swift bay]

nothing happens

[hidden ore]

it's temporarily unavailable (festival uses an alternate map) @keen needle

[tough remnant]

... or swap places with you so they take your place and you become the mannequin, nobody can really say how it works

[ripe osprey]

How many damn side effects does that thing have?!

[hidden ore]

enough 😄

[ripe osprey]

Perhaps i shouldn't place it

But i will!

The voice of reason is, often times, simply yapping

[tough remnant]

You can mitigate most of the effects by putting it in a shed somewhere

[ripe osprey]

Most?!

Will it come back to my house if i leave it in Elliot's cabin?

[hidden ore]

it wouldn't be cursed if you could mitigate them all, now, would it

[ripe osprey]

Well actually that's great, i'll have to farm for that in my coop save when my friend's back

[tough remnant]

It could still move around inside the shed, or turn it into a spooky cave

[ripe osprey]

He has a mannequin i can replace... he won't notice

[hidden ore]

just as long as you know that revenge is a dish best served cold and all that

[ripe osprey]

I'll be fine, Krobus doesn't sleep he will watch over me 🥰

[tough remnant]

He's a self-proclaimed mischief maker though, he'd probably side with the cursed mannequins

[ripe osprey]

Dang it.

Well, you get some you lose some

[tough remnant]

Funniest shit though

There are two wallpapers that are obtainable, but not in item form. One is the spooky cave from the cursed mannequin. The other is the default wallpaper for the attic.

[ripe osprey]

Ah, the word about the illness that causes you to hallucinate and be delusional is a banned word...

[tough remnant]

If you ever lose the attic wallpaper, you cannot get it back

[ripe osprey]

But that will definitely make him have those symptoms, lol

[tough remnant]

Making it the rarest wallpaper in the game

[hidden ore]

which means that if you are not extremely careful you can have one and lose it to the other, permanently

[ripe osprey]

You can just, delete the attic and rebuild it nah?

[tough remnant]

Nope

[ripe osprey]

Huh

[hidden ore]

you get the wallpaper that was last on it. I tested.

[tough remnant]

It remembers the wallpaper you had before

[ripe osprey]

Well i haven't built the attic yet, so i'll be alright

[hidden ore]

(and flooring too in case it matters)

[vapid wind]

has someone a clear pic of the house with all the new upagrades ?

[hidden ore]

er depends what you mean by "clear". I have one with a bunch of furniture and crap in it

[vapid wind]

thats fine

just wanna see how it looks like

[ripe osprey]

great heavens i am surrounded by spiders

and the parrot is t-posing

[vapid wind]

[shell snow]

can i not dehydrate different quality items together?

[gray oriole]

Nop

[vapid wind]

nope

[ripe osprey]

nop

[shell snow]

lord help me

[vapid wind]

oh nice thank you !!

[shell snow]

going to take forever to do this ||raccoon bundle|| lmao

[hidden ore]

(note that this is the spoil-all-the-things channel)

[vapid wind]

64% perfection almost doooone

[swift bay]

my raccoon wants rusty spoon, he gonna wait

[vapid wind]

just need a few mastery recipes and i'll be done with it omg

[shell snow]

omg that is worse lol. i'm trying to get 5 morels to dehydrate and I have 2 silver, 3 normal, and 1 iridium ffs

[vapid wind]

your raccoon want an artifact ?!

damn

[swift bay]

yeah

[vapid wind]

stradew predictor me beloved

[shell snow]

i have mushroom logs, a tapped mushroom tree if those even give morels, and check the secret forest everyday. but I just got the Botanist forager skill so now everything will be iridium

[rich trellis]

i'm ready for iridium legend ii farming

[buoyant lark]

not going for challenge bait?

[ripe osprey]

they're recatchable anyway, challenge bait would be good for duplicate legendaries, the regular ones

[buoyant lark]

true true

[tough remnant]

If you can reliably catch without trap bobber, I highly recommend curiosity lure, as it literally doubles catch rate for the Legend/Legend II

[rich trellis]

i'll never be capable

[tough remnant]

Takes it from 10% to 20%

[rich trellis]

havent did a lot of skull dives yet

[rich trellis]

but yeahh i really want it when i skull dive

[wispy slate]

DONT PLACE IT it will get rid of a mystery wallpaper I JUST GOT AGAIN YEA I WIN CURSED MANNEQUIN

[vapid wind]

hai hai wanted to ask you smth : silly question but is the geodes count on the stradew predictor reliable ?

[rich lake]

Always has been for me

[tough remnant]

Should be? I've never had an issue.

[ripe osprey]

bruh i have two now

[tough remnant]

I am not MouseyPounds and have never looked into how it works though

[vapid wind]

okay just wanted to be sure

[tough remnant]

Time to start making a full tank of each kind of frog

[ripe osprey]

i am collecting them, how many can i put per tank lol

[wispy slate]

noice, also u can put em in fish tanks

[tough remnant]

They count as bottom-dweller fish AFAIK, so whatever the fish limit is per tank

[urban kiln]

why is the background for the tv different

[ripe osprey]

not a problem

[wispy slate]

ZAMN

[ripe osprey]

i have a 6th one that i forgor

too

[tough remnant]

You know

Why the hell isn't wallpaper stackable

[ripe osprey]

alright, i have fitted this beast with the best steel of the valley

now i'll hear it clanking at night so i can wake up and beat it up

[tough remnant]

Also, fun fact, for bottom dwelling fish (including frogs), jungle tanks are the most space-efficient aquariums

[ripe osprey]

good to know!

[tough remnant]

1 fish per tile

Whereas aquatic sanctuaries are 6 fish in 7 tiles

[harsh plover]

Yeah it's annoying and why is it consumed each time you use it lol

[tough remnant]

I get that

Like, the rest of the quirks with wallpapers I generally get

I don't get the lack of stacking

[harsh plover]

I did not pay 10000 for a one-time use wallpaper that I could easily change and lose forever

If it dropped the old paper when you put a new one that's more fair

but you just lose it the moment it's on the wall

[tough remnant]

Yes you did

[chilly bloom]

Probably because he wanted to keep it standard with furniture

Holdover from old updates

[tough remnant]

That said, I personally think that the design paradigm of the catalogue was a mistake from the outset, and it would have been better if the catalogue basically let you use the wallpaper on it to unlock that wallpaper forever

[last stag]

Anyone having issues with Prismatic butterfly after yesterdays patch

doesn't seem to actually spawn and the extra butterflys are missing too

[harsh plover]

oh gosh that sounds so much more fun

and also allows to keep exclusive wallpapers

like maybe it comes with some by default but most you will have to collect

[tough remnant]

Nah

[harsh plover]

Why is this such a good idea dang

[tough remnant]

None by default, that makes the random wallpaper selection actually relevant

Because I do not know a single person who has ever actually bought a random wallpaper from Pierre or JojaMart

[harsh plover]

no I mean literally just one pretty bland one you can't get anywhere else lol

to show you how it works

then you have to get the rest

[tough remnant]

Ah okay

Technically therre is actually an exclusive wallpaper and flooring in the catalogue lol

[harsh plover]

If I knew how to mod I'd totally make it how it works

[ripe osprey]

tired of having monsters on the farm, time to give up a strange bun

[harsh plover]

If it's really unique and fun it should be gotten through other means

[tough remnant]

The last item in each category is exclusive and unobtainable from the random selections

[harsh plover]

would furniture catalogue work the same way? Stay as is? Receive some other change?

[tough remnant]

The wallpaper looks sorta like the greenhouse interior, and the floor is just that generic large wooden planked floor but darker

[harsh plover]

Hmm so maybe it will just get added to the collection of random wallpapers and floorings they sell at Pierre's

[tough remnant]

Dunno, furniture catalogue has a lot of exclusive items actually

[ripe osprey]

"Sam took Vincent into the maze, i hope they're okay." - Jodi
She doesn't know

[harsh plover]

Where was Sam during that festival anyway? I only saw some blonde zombie

[ripe osprey]

Lol, that blonde zombie's a paid actor, you've been fooled

[tough remnant]

It's Sam

You get friendship for talking to him

[tawny fjord]

Hello for the raccoon family he says he has to find a wife, should I wait?

[ripe osprey]

yes

he go find wife

Sebastian hanging out with zombie hands, gravestones and bones is so hilariously typical of him

[silver magnet]

How rare are trinkets?

[ripe osprey]

Oh shit Leo's in the maze 😄

[silver magnet]

Should I finish the community centre so I can get the trinkets or I can get it when I finish maxing out my professions and get the warrior mastery?

[tough remnant]

CC has nothing to do with it

It's just about combat mastery

[silver magnet]

Huh I got a parrot egg

Lv3

I want fairy tho

[lavish rapids]

you know I didn't realize trinkets had levels until you said that lol

I wonder what level my fairy is

[ripe osprey]

ostriches make such cute sounds

[native rain]

Ostriches are awesome

They just say “gwoh” and make me a lot of money

[tidal obsidian]

whats the second best mastery after farming?

[tough remnant]

Ostriches are like sheep that don't need Shepherd to be good (and are also worse, but not massively so)

[lavish rapids]

I mean depends on your play style

farming isn't even necessarily the best one

I think I got fishing first and farming third

just because I do a lot of fishing and while the iridium scythe is a nice QOL option it's not like overpowered or anything

[native rain]

Farming does give the statue though

[tidal obsidian]

yeah

[lavish rapids]

yeah but it was winter and I didn't have 333 moss on me

[tidal obsidian]

the mining statue is also quite good

[tough remnant]

Also lets you start farming animal crackers early while doing everything else

[lavish rapids]

and the heavy furnace is extreemly good

[lavish rapids]

right but the fishing mastery let me start making 50k a day pretty easily

I'm not saying the farming mastery isn't not the best for everyone but it just depends on your play style

well other than foraging, I can't imagine that's extrodinarily useful for most people

[native rain]

Goldens can have auto petters now

That changes a few things

[tough remnant]

Mystic Trees are pretty busted

[unique yew]

we be feeding drugs now?

[lavish rapids]

are they?

[tough remnant]

And golden mystery boxes are good

[lavish rapids]

Maybe I'm just misunderstanding something but they seem pretty mid

[lavish rapids]

yeah but compared to what you get for the other 4 masteries

[unique yew]

i like this farm more than the beach one tbh

[native rain]

Meadowlands is very fun

[tough remnant]

Mystic Trees with Heavy Tappers are better than diamond crystalariums, and that's not even mentioning the purple mushroom farming with mushroom logs

[native rain]

Though I don’t think I can work in a junimo hut anywhere and also have it cover the maximum amount of sprinklers

[lavish rapids]

that seems like an absurd amount of work for what you get out of it

not to mention the space required

[ripe osprey]

Does grass spread when winter comes?

[native rain]

Don’t believe it does

[ripe osprey]

Makes sense

[ripe osprey]

I'm glad CA turns some mods into features

[native rain]

You get that big ol grass boost when spring comes though

[ripe osprey]

I used to play with Winter Grass all the time

[ripe osprey]

Gonna get blue grass all over the place when spring 😤

[native rain]

Blue grass made the early game so much easier

[lavish rapids]

I get annoyed because some of the mods are turned into late game features (ex. iridium scythe, horse flute) so I simultaniously can't really justify playing with them and have to wait longer to get the QOL change

[native rain]

Had large eggs so damn quickly

[ripe osprey]

Honestly, harvest with scythe was busted. Glad it was turned into an item that you have to work for

Getting maxed mastery is not even that hard tbh but hey

[lavish rapids]

I mean it becomes busted late game, it's just QOL early game

[ripe osprey]

At least you don't get it straight off the bat

[lavish rapids]

and by then getting mastery is fairly trivial

[ripe osprey]

Meh, you can manually harvest stuff early game, it's not like you have 10 morbillion crops

[lavish rapids]

yeah that's my point

[tidal obsidian]

honestly kinda tempted to take foraging mastery mainly for the golden mystery boxes

[lavish rapids]

it's not busted, it's just QOL

[lavish rapids]

they sound a lot better than they are

[ripe osprey]

Doesn't really change much tbh

[tidal obsidian]

i mean they do have auto petters

[ripe osprey]

Not good, go for farming mastery

[lavish rapids]

they what

[lavish rapids]

That's my point

[native rain]

Farming is better to start with

[tidal obsidian]

already have it

[ripe osprey]

Yeah but the chances are very low

[ripe osprey]

Might as well not have it!

Goes both ways

[ripe osprey]

Good choice

[tidal obsidian]

im deciding on my second mastery point atm

[lavish rapids]

dang the wiki doesn't have the choices for all the items laid out

[lavish rapids]

fishing/mining, the latter if you don't do much fishing

[tough remnant]

1250g per tree every 4 days with tapper profession, and that synchronises perfectly with the mushroom logs for harvest, and this can be done entirely off-farm

[lavish rapids]

if you're good at fishing the challenger bait is extremely good

[lavish rapids]

yeah like I said, an absurd amount of work for what you get out of it

I'm aware with the rewards just feels there are easier ways to do it

not to mention getting all those mahogony seeds is a pain

[tough remnant]

It's roughly same income per tile overall as Ancient Fruit with unlimited off-farm kegs

But not limited by farm space

[native rain]

Could always just buy em

[lavish rapids]

from where

[native rain]

Island trader

[lavish rapids]

I feel like stingrays would be significantly more annoying to farm

[native rain]

You can catch quite a nice amount of stingrays in a day

[lavish rapids]

also it should be noted that in my exerpeince crafting them into treature totems and using them in teh desert yields more than 1,250g/mystic syrup on average

[native rain]

Quicker than mahogany trees grow

[tough remnant]

Also fish ponds

[tough remnant]

Sure but that's a looooot of manual labour in processing

[lavish rapids]

I don't understand your standards

[native rain]

Tappers are automated

Totems ain’t

[tough remnant]

Setup costs are one-off

Totems need to be done every harvest

There's a reason people do AF wineries all the time, but nobody does Hops

[native rain]

Also spending all that time doing all that work in the desert can’t be healthy

You’ll get heat stroke

[tough remnant]

AF has a high setup cost, but it's one-off

Hops has a low setup-cost, but really high ongoing labour cost

[native rain]

I just do both (I love alcohol)

[lavish rapids]

AF setup cost is only the opportunity cost of selling the AF instead of turning it into seeds

[tough remnant]

I mean the effort required

[lavish rapids]

is basically nothing compared to what you're suggusting

[tough remnant]

Not really?

[lavish rapids]

yes?

[native rain]

Making a large ancient fruit farm also takes a long ass time

[lavish rapids]

it takes substantial in game time but the actual real time effort required is comparitibly small

[small lynx]

Awwww.... The raccoon family is singing to me
Sooo cute!

[tough remnant]

So is tree seed farming?

[short silo]

Finally got enough jades in my Low% / Max Waivers run to finish the mines. Now I just need to get 100 more for guaranteed Skull Caverns chest so that I can get more Crystalariums or Auto-Grabber. 7 Spring, Year 4, 11 hours of Playtime.

[native rain]

They’re thriving and living the good life

[lavish rapids]

that's a significantly more labor intensive process

[native rain]

What percentage are you going for

[tough remnant]

You just plant a shitload of trees then go bomb them down in a couple seasons if you want the low effort version, it's less effort

[short silo]

3%, then buying 97 Perfection Waivers from Fizz

[lavish rapids]

yeah but now you're talking years, that isn't practical in a standerd playthrough

[native rain]

That sounds expensive

[tough remnant]

Nice, Joja catalogue

[tough remnant]

Not really? My new save is still year 1 and already has 150+ of each tree seed

The ones needed for mystic trees anyway

[pine skiff]

is that joja door part of the catalouge?

[lavish rapids]

so what 30 mystic trees?

that's nothing

[short silo]

Yup

[pine skiff]

nice

[tough remnant]

And this is without specific farming

[short silo]

My farm isn't in the best shape.

[ripe osprey]

Insane tree farm you got going!

[lavish rapids]

If you want to min/max this then sure, it is a strategy. But in a normal playthrough it makes more sense to do something that is compartively low effort, like grinding out a couple thousand anctient fruit seeds

[tough remnant]

When I want more, I'll be able to roughly double each of those quantities in a week

With tree fertiliser and bulk planting

[steady narwhal]

Could leave the trees to drop seeds

[tough remnant]

Yeah, that's the high labour strategy

Spend effort to save in-game days

[pine skiff]

is this "low%/max waivers" run just the bare minimum or what

[lavish rapids]

sounds like they're trying to get perfection in the lowest amount of real time

errr maybe I'm wrong though?

[sonic skiff]

no, in the lowest amount of % fulfilled by the player

[lavish rapids]

oh interesting

[pine skiff]

oh

[sonic skiff]

there were already low% runs where you try to enter walnut room with the least amount of perfection completed

now you can do that and then finish off the run by just buying perfection instead of actually fulfilling the goals

[lavish rapids]

with a mere 48.5 Million G

[pine skiff]

how much would that be

oh wow

[ripe osprey]

only 5 golden clocks?

perfection is quite cheap

[lavish rapids]

god there's so much interesting lore with the new joja department

I want to know so much more about joja and Mr. Qi

[sonic skiff]

the only low% run i've seen was salmence's in 1.5

[short silo]

Going for most Perfection Waivers purchased. This requires reaching Qi's Golden Walnut room with 3% perfection, then purchasing 48 500 000 Gold's worth of Perfection Waivers. (97x500 000)

[tough remnant]

The fun challenge is figuring out a feasible way to earn 48.5M without earning any perfection score

What strat are you planning on?

[mellow atlas]

willy still tending his shop at 1am

[short silo]

Mixture of Dinosaur Eggs + Diamond Crystalariums

[tough remnant]

Very nice

I like that dinosaur eggs are actually almost optimal for this lol

Technically cows are marginally better if you sell the milk to Marnie

[lavish rapids]

can you level up to lvl 9 in each skill or does it count every 5 levels gained in all skills combined at 1% perfection

[wispy slate]

he be on dat grind

[tough remnant]

You can earn 1 level in 1 skill total

[sonic skiff]

i think it's every 2 levels? so yeahh you can gain max 1 level in any one skill

[tough remnant]

It tracks farmer level, which is equal to half your total skill level, rounded down

And earning 1 farmer level is enough to put you on 4%

[silver magnet]

Yeah I think they will bite more often at this case

[mellow atlas]

man, low% speedrun go crazy

[lavish rapids]

that doesn't make any sense but alright

like I understand how farming level works

I just don't understand how perfection tracking works ig

[gray oriole]

Wait why

[short silo]

There's a new feature in 1.6 where if you haven't gained 1 fishing level by Summer 1st, Willy will visit you at your farm, give you a training rod, and you will automatically level up to 1 fishing level.
There are some ways to dodge this, but ultimately it would require only leaving your Farmhouse on rainy days, which imposes it's own challenges.

[wispy slate]

prices for the eggs got buffed

[tidal obsidian]

Just found this new layout, confused me at first, but look super cool!

[wispy slate]

insane

[lavish rapids]

that is the dumbest thing I've ever seen what

[gray oriole]

Income is irrelevant

[buoyant lark]

holy shit thats a lot of minecarts

[lavish rapids]

and somehow none of them have coal what a scam

[gray oriole]

I meant why do dino eggs minimize perfection gain over the other stuff

[tough remnant]

Perfection tracking simply (Progress in Each Category)x(Percentage for completing that category)

[gray oriole]

Do they just not give farming xp or something

[tough remnant]

No, it is income

There are tons of ways to get money without XP

[lavish rapids]

But wouldn't that mean you ened farmer level 5 to get 1%

[tough remnant]

No, because you actually start on like, 3.9% roughly

Game just rounds down

Because of the walnuts needed to enter the room

You have enough leeway to craft a single item of your choosing

[lavish rapids]

oh so it doesn't contribute the percentage point in a category to the total only when the point earned for said category is achieved it instead adds up all the points, including decimals, and spits out that number

[tough remnant]

Anything more and you go to 4%

[lavish rapids]

interesting

I suppose that is the logical way to do it

[chilly bloom]

For the stuff that isn’t a check yeah

[lavish rapids]

well yeah

[short silo]

Yup. If you never read willy's Day 2 letter, then this won't happen, but you do eventually need to read it to be able to unlock community center (and boat maybe?) Once you've read it, as long as you avoid going to the beach then this also won't happen as you wouldn't have triggered willy's cutscene, but eventually you'll need to visit the beach to use the Ginger Island boat. Your last hope is to only leave the farmhouse on rainy days or never return to your Valley farmouse once you've reached Ginger Island.

[lavish rapids]

just count steps and make sure it's always raining problem solved /s

[brazen oar]

is there any better way to get mahogany seeds besides secret forest and GI?

for mystic tree seeds

[short silo]

You can plant mahogony seeds on your farm, and then shake the trees or harvest their spreaded seeds.

[tough remnant]

They don't, but Maximum Waivers requires a lot of money with no XP gain, and you basically don't have access to artisan machines (or professions). Under those conditions, using autograbbers (from SC treasure rooms) to harvest dino eggs and sell with artifact guide is one of the best moneymakers available to the farmer.

Though autograbbing milk from cows and selling direct to Marnie is technically slightly better

[ripe osprey]

huh

[hidden ore]

so that the guy collecting all stackables to 999 doesn't get screwed 😛

[ripe osprey]

DAMN

[tough remnant]

Desert Totems can resolve this issue

Omni Geodes are farmable, and desert totems are cheap and can take you to the bus stop without going via the farm

[dusk glen]

I planted pumpkins on day 2 why did it harvest on day 15 no more double harvest

[short silo]

Would work

[tough remnant]

And eventually you can start sleeping at GI house

[hidden ore]

I actually love the wildness of it, the trees everywhere, it's wonderful

[tough remnant]

Alternatively you could accept Fishing 1 as your one levelup lol

[short silo]

Yeah, it's annoying but it can be worked around.

[tough remnant]

I wonder what the optimal levelup is actually

[woven tusk]

Isn't that normal?

And how does that prevent a second harvest?

[short silo]

Maybe mining? Would let you have more opportunity to break rocks in Volcano Mines looking for walnuts.

[hidden ore]

geez I have to hope there's a workaround for that, ugh

[tough remnant]

Yeah, mining is a good pick

[woven tusk]

2+13=15, right? So if you plant new pumpkins on the same day, 15+13= exactly 28

[dusk glen]

Still double harvest? I kinda am feeling dumb rn

[woven tusk]

A good ⛏️ Pick indeed.
(Rimshot)

[tidal obsidian]

Just found another new level, man really went crazy with minecarts and tracks

[tough remnant]

But fishing lets you not have to deal with Willy ambushing you at your front door lol

[dusk glen]

Doesn't it harvest after 13 days so 14

[tough remnant]

I'm pretty sure optimal crafting (you can make exactly one crafting recipe without going over the line for 4%) is some sort of flooring

[woven tusk]

Why 14?

[desert stag]

Endless Junimo Kart should be named Endless Stressful

[woven tusk]

Your first possible harvest is on Day 14 because you'd plant on Day 1, not Day 0.

1+13= 14

[wispy slate]

THEY STAND UP THIS IS SO CURSED OMG (raccoon cutscene)

[dusk glen]

I planted on like day 2

[wispy slate]

actually it looks cute

[woven tusk]

You planted on day 2.
2+13 = 15

So if you plant on Day 15...
15+13=28

[dusk glen]

After 13 days not on day 13 it like says there

I'm confused ngl

[tough remnant]

Planting day + growth period = harvest day

[woven tusk]

They can do that. Nothing odd here

[hidden ore]

the raccoon cutscene might be the cutest thing in the game so far

[native rain]

Weird lookin’ dog

[tough remnant]

If you plant on day 1, and it takes 13 days to grow, you harvest on day 14. If you plant on day 2, you harvest on day 15. If you plant on day 15, you harvest on day 28

[woven tusk]

Not on day 13. Never said Day 13. You can't reach Day 13 without Speed Gro because you can't plant on Day 0

[wispy slate]

aawww cute

[wispy slate]

nah thats a weasel

[dusk glen]

It'll probably die if i plant one rn which crop do I replace it with
(No cranberries I lose money)

[wispy slate]

fr

[native rain]

Shit mb

[woven tusk]

?????????

[native rain]

Wait which crop and which day?

[dusk glen]

Fall

[woven tusk]

It's only too late if it's Day 16+

[native rain]

That’s not a crop or a day

[dusk glen]

I'm confused do I plant one rn or not I'm on day 15

Pumpkins

[native rain]

What crop is it

[tough remnant]

Day 15, plant pumpkins

[native rain]

You can plant that

[woven tusk]

15 will allow pumpkins to bloom on day 28

[tough remnant]

They're ready for harvest on day 28

[woven tusk]

Needs 13 overnights to grow
13 overnights from Day 15 is Day 28

[dusk glen]

Mb I forgot sumthing

[woven tusk]

This is the kind of thing our gradeschool math textbooks were trying to warn us about, with all those word problems

[dusk glen]

I had to like tilt 640 tiles for 640 crops on my first fall so I had to plant on day 2

[woven tusk]

"A farmer in Stardew Valley wants to plant a 13-day crop on the 15th. When does the crop bloom?"

[native rain]

Oooh, oooh, I know this one! It’s… uh…

Hmmm, 32?

[open basin]

That one episode of B99 where Gina says "Does anyone get a little bit of a gay vibe?"

[woven tusk]

The hetero-ish bachelorette is Abigail, IIRC (mentions she never realized she'd be into girls until the female farmer dates her)

Don't know of any others among the girls saying something similar

[open basin]

Oh I'm loving this new y2 npc position, it's so interesting to talk with everyone now
I don't remember Robin and Leah interacting so much up until now? in the Fair, Leah is now saying that they make a good team

[woven tusk]

I think Alex has the equivalent quote among the boys

[open basin]

True lol
I remember thinking it was quite cute when I first saw that cutscene

I remember that when I first started playing, I thought Leah and Robin were sisters or aunt and niece or something

Wow lot of I remembers 💀

[woven tusk]

Y1 Fair has one or the other mentioning that their lines of work are similar, and Ice Festival has them both constructing ice sculptures. I think Robin is one of the ones to comment on Leah's sculptures if you suggest the art show

The hints were there but they rarely interacted directly until now, despite how much they have in common

[open basin]

They construct the ice sculpt together?

[woven tusk]

Nah, separately

[silver magnet]

time to cash these in men

[open basin]

Yeaa exactly

[open basin]

yea xd

[woven tusk]

Unless they do team up in y2 ice fest I guess. I haven't gotten that far yet

[green igloo]

When is this coming to switch

[open basin]

I've always thought that they would have a closer relationship, given that their work are so similar, but I do understand why they wouldn't I think ?

While Leah works on art, Robin is making a... fence?

[woven tusk]

Well, they live on almost opposite ends of the valley. In fact the only one who lives farther away without being outside the valley, is the Hat Mouse

[open basin]

So it's like functionality meets creative thinking, I imagine their convos would be so interesting

[green igloo]

What’s the best sword in 1.5

1.6*

[open basin]

If Sandy and Emily can be so close together, I think that that wouldn't be such an issue, since they 'see' each other rather commonly in the bar

[tough remnant]

She's just planing a wooden beam of some sort. The legs are just a carpenter's sawhorse

[open basin]

So I think it's just that they're not close or perhaps Leah just never thought about it?

[pine skiff]

wait so are all of the npcs who you can date bi-sexual then

[open basin]

Not sure what it is, I just mean it's very functionality x creative thinking, really

[woven tusk]

Sandy and Emily grew up together. Robin and Leah didn't; Leah is from Zuzu city and only moved here recently.

[open basin]

Well you can't marry a straight dude when you're a dude, can you? it's either fake love or they're kind of finding out their sexuality with you or something

[open basin]

I'm not talking about relationship, that was about distance

[woven tusk]

So Leah and Robin are basically only ever in the same room on Fridays at the Saloon... If you didn't hire Robin to build something... And Robin would be busy dancing with Demetrius on that day

[open basin]

They're long distance friends, Leah and Robin could also just talk if they wanted lol

[silver magnet]

i think i mod too much until i feel guilt.

[open basin]

That's exactly because they're not friends

[tough remnant]

Yeah, kinda the natural result of romanceable characters that don't care about player character gender

[open basin]

Leah seems to be rather new to the village, so it looks like y2 Fair is where they actually interact and see how nice they are together in a friendship

[woven tusk]

Yeah, they don't interact because they haven't interacted because they almost never are even in the same room

[open basin]

Yea, because they're not friends-
If they were, we'd be able to see them talk

Which is why, again, I think that y2 fair is where they're starting that relationship

[woven tusk]

And Elliott is usually hogging Leah's attention at fairs

[open basin]

Like that thought of "Oh this person seems nice"

[woven tusk]

(Unless you prefer hammers like me, I guess)

[tough remnant]

I wish NPCs actually had more variable schedules. Like, random chance to replace a generic day schedule with visiting a friend's house or something

[open basin]

Yea, that'd be nice
I assume it'd be a lot of work tho xd

Although I'm not very bright on programming anyway

[woven tusk]

Maybe I'll leave the island resort open for that reason And then regret that decision when I forget to check the island for a townie I can't find

[open basin]

The resort is a nightmare

[midnight knoll]

Whats even the point of the resort

[woven tusk]

I got Ginger Island open today and did a scouting run without saving, but am worried about getting enough walnuts to open the farm soon enough.

[tough remnant]

Sadly, NPCs actually become less social over time rather than more

[open basin]

I was looking for Maru to gift her on HER BIRTHDAY and she was at the resort
"I'll just wait for 6pm then"
-> forgot

[woven tusk]

Bikinis

[open basin]

You can get a food recipe there and it unlocks the pirates

I do like to leave it open for roleplay reasons, it does seem like a very relaxing day for the villagres

(not a relaxing day for me, though)

[woven tusk]

If you add the gold trim to Lewis' shorts before returning them to him, he will temporarily wear them as his resort outfit swim trunks

[tough remnant]

The various implied couples stop hanging out with each other after becoming friends with the player

[hidden ore]

still the infinity blade for swords, nothing new was introduced in 1.6 along those lines

[mellow atlas]

deconstructing grass starter for fiber...

[woven tusk]

I didn't realize Elliott only went to the saloon to try peacocking for Leah until 1.6 made him stop going when Leah reaches high hearts

[open basin]

Unrelated but sometimes I wonder how a SV mini-comic would look like
Just small little stories to branch out the villager's relationships and backstories

Sounds pretty wholesome

[tough remnant]

Yeah, it's actually such an anti-feature IMO

[open basin]

FR I saw his schedule to gift him and saw that I was just ???? my brother in christ

[tough remnant]

Most baffling design decision in SDV IMO

[woven tusk]

I was looking for him to deliver a Help Wanted item and he... stays home on that day now. And I didn't have 2 hearts yet to get into his home

[tough remnant]

If they like the farmer they just drop their prior social connections

Alex and Haley also stop being friends

And Abigail stops visiting Sebastian

[woven tusk]

In this case Elliott sees the writing on the wall (possibly from Leah mentioning the farmer... a lot...) and gave up, so it makes sense. He's a writer, he should be aware of these things

[open basin]

I understand Alex and Haley breaking their ties

But the others are so ? idk
At least they look more like genuine friends to me

[tough remnant]

Issue is that these are literally their only friends most of the time

[hidden ore]

I didn't know until reading this comment 😛

[woven tusk]

Abigail still hangs with the boys on Fridays, she just stops going out of her way to meet Seb on other days I suppose

[open basin]

Thought about that too, "Is it because Leah can't shut up about the farmer and Elliot has better things to do?"

That's DRAMA /j

[open basin]

Fair enough
Still talks about him when married with the farmer tho

[tough remnant]

Once Alex and Haley stop hanging out, Alex literally has no friends

[open basin]

Well, the dog

[woven tusk]

Meanwhile I realized a few days ago that Haley is less popular in the valley than her hippie sister

[open basin]

But now I'm thinking, who else would he talk to

[tough remnant]

Penny and Maru at least have an actual friendship

[open basin]

FR like holy shit

In vanilla she has this popular vibe, meanwhile she's always alone 🤣

[woven tusk]

Popularity was her life back in the city and now she has... less of it than the hippie she's housing with

[tough remnant]

She got nominated as flower queen which implies some degree of popularity

[hidden ore]

well Emily does those gem therapy and clothing therapy sessions, Haley I think winds up running some charity events after marriage (unless I am confusing this with another game, which is possible)

[open basin]

True but it makes me think, why would they nominate her?

[woven tusk]

That's correct

[open basin]

If they're not friends, then... because she's beautiful ?

Beautiful in a very uhh social classic way

Forgot the name

[woven tusk]

...Conventional?

[open basin]

YES that lol

[mellow atlas]

it would be cool if hoppers not only loaded things into machines, but also took them out. i mean, there's a lot of space in there.

[woven tusk]

This is basically the Automate mod

[mellow atlas]

i don't play with mods

[silver magnet]

is it true that Alex sell trinkets in the desert festival?

[woven tusk]

Then yeah you gotta deal with the half-Automate that Hoppers do

[tough remnant]

I 100% believe she was a cheerleader at whatever out-of-town high school the youth all attended

[open basin]

It's a nice hc, she totally has cheerleaders vibes fr

[tough remnant]

He sells Magic Hair Gel specifically

[woven tusk]

CA actually mentioned that Automate goes way too far at... automating things. So he later added Hoppers which only do half the job

[open basin]

Maybe even cheerleader captain, I have no doubts

[woven tusk]

I basically just assumed this since she's trying to put moves on the local sports jock

[open basin]

Yea, seems almost compulsory

[mellow atlas]

do you think pam used to drive the kids of sdv to school in the bus?

[silver magnet]

that ain't worth nothing

[tough remnant]

Prismatic Hair though

[buoyant lark]

probably

[cloud oyster]

bug i found, idk how old it is

[silver magnet]

i am suffering a heart attack

[lavish rapids]

What bug?

[cloud oyster]

forgable

[woven tusk]

Think, thonk... The kids who would've needed schooling in that era would've been Penny plus Abigail/Sam/Seb. Emily is older (mentions Abigail's graduation party), Maru is significantly younger than Seb, and Alex hadn't moved into the valley yet. Hm.

[cloud oyster]

i imagine hes not intended to clip on top of a foragable, or even that it should be in the cutscene at all

[tough remnant]

Forageables are generally present in cutscenes and have no collision

[cloud oyster]

hm alright

[tough remnant]

It's funny for Haley's bracelet cutscene

Where you get to run around the beach looking for the bracelet

And can run straight through the beach forage

[cloud oyster]

ah okay, yea i noticed them there too but i didnt try running through them

[woven tusk]

I tried picking up some coral but was forbidden

[hidden ore]

speaking of weird collisions, has anyone noticed that the winter wild seeds (I assume the same is true for the rest too), when the crop is matured, if you get too close you cannot harvest with the scythe, the game will make you pick up each item individually instead? and you cannot move through them like normal crops. so the solution is to stand back a tile and then swing, not optimal but better than picking up each crop one at a time

disclaimer, this is on controller as always, behaviour might be different for mouse and keyboard

[woven tusk]

I should sanity-check my current plan...

So I just unlocked GI. My current plan is to sprint up the volcano, running right past enemies rather than fighting them with my garbage weapons, and snag the Prismatic at the top so I can finally get Galaxy weapons. Does this make sense or are the enemy drops too valuable to give up even with bad weapons, or is there perhaps something else I haven't accounted for?

[gray oriole]

having GI and no prismastic is super cursed

[dry lance]

You can do volcano infinite times so don’t worry about skipping some enemies

[woven tusk]

Yes, combat has been godsdamn miserable this playthrough

[gray oriole]

i'm still baffled u haven't gotten a shard from SC yet

[dry lance]

Always kill the things swimming in lava though

[woven tusk]

So am I

[dry lance]

Cause of dragon teeth

[hidden ore]

you're going to need cinder shards at some point but if you want the prismatic to get a decent weapon, then sure, seems like a plan

[woven tusk]

Noted, I'll prioritize those. This kind of thing is exactly what I was worried I'd miss out on

[dry lance]

Also I’m pretty sure volcano chests can have a weapon better than the galaxy sword

[woven tusk]

My scouting run had me trying to fight the bastards off with the Obsidian Edge and the Slammer.

I did not have a good time. (I died)

[hidden ore]

if it's your first run through and you're just trying to rush getting to the top, don't even spend a minute on the lava lurkers, you can get them on the second, third, 4th and 20th runs

[gray oriole]

yes but the rates are low

[mellow atlas]

if you have no galaxy sword yet, don't bother fighting anything, it will take too long. just get as many speed buffs as you can and run to the end

bring healing too

[woven tusk]

Ye

[dry lance]

The dragons teeth are crazy valuable tho

[hidden ore]

also make sure your pickaxe is fully upgraded, the fewer hits to get some rock out of the way, the better

[dry lance]

Being able to tp to gi is broken

[mellow atlas]

it's more efficient to fight them with a decent weapon

[silver magnet]

so 1.6 release the unreleased locked weapons which exist before 1.6?

[mellow atlas]

upgrade your watering can too

[woven tusk]

Couldn't bring it to Iridium due to what I had to do for the past two weeks (grind Dust Spirits, get Prismatic Jelly, get Ectoplasm). Had to upgrade my other tools instead

[hidden ore]

you might hit one of the new layouts that makes you use a lot of water, indeed

[woven tusk]

It's steel
At least I have the 5-line shot

[mellow atlas]

you can bring bombs to speed up the process too

[hidden ore]

top off before going in and again at level 5

[gray oriole]

new volcano layouts make the unlimited water enchant better than the others now imo

it's too easy to get trolled by one of the new layouts in volcano

[hidden ore]

eh I'm at iridium, even if I got several crap layouts in a row I'd be ok

[gray oriole]

wait until you get buttons on a crap layout and have to traverse the long way around

also im lazy and forget to refill my can often lmao

[hidden ore]

ah now the truth comes out 😄 😄

[mellow atlas]

i forget to fill my can because of adhd

if I notice my watering can is empty, it only takes like ten seconds for me to forget about it

[hidden ore]

I have to double check everything before I go in, but I at least have the little mantra: "I can get fast, mine things, kill things, heal up, get around [watering can], and get home, OK, let's do it" which I say before every run

[dry lance]

If it’s a speedrun idk if you can afford to not be able to tp to gi

[hidden ore]

if I don't say that and check, then I may leave something important behind.

[dry lance]

Honestly I don’t bring food I just eat random mushrooms I find on the floor lol

[hidden ore]

I bring salads and usually end up eating 2, maybe 3. I'm usually stopping to whack things though, which won't be the case for Giga.

[dry lance]

The one time I got a ostrich egg from a volcano chest it went into the wall and I didn’t have enough magnetism to get it

[gray oriole]

how exactly do ppl get salad in bulk

[dry lance]

Buy from saloon I think

[hidden ore]

from the saloon. just put down a chunk o change and gus will oblige

[silver magnet]

i got my lv 2 fairy box

[hidden ore]

I mean I could bring cactus fruit I guess, I have a pile of iridium quality. but I can't be bothered

[neat sail]

Level 420 for it 😭

[silver magnet]

my weapon is a modded weapon tho. Buster Sword from ff7

[neat sail]

Mm

[ripe osprey]

death

[silver magnet]

the ice rod is opaf

[gritty laurel]

free way to get a prize ticket if you don't have copper axe

[sand wigeon]

?

[gray oriole]

he's using the chair glitch

[hidden ore]

chair glitch in it looks like

[sand wigeon]

ah

i see

[vague knot]

Waaa, I just found this|| (retro catalogue)|| at the traveling cart!! :3 others who got it? Are you happy ||with the items inside?||

[gray oriole]

i like the furniture

[hidden ore]

I used a couple of them. But my tastes run more to the wizard and junimo catalogues tbh

[vague knot]

Uhh! That makes me happy, im so excited :3

[buoyant lark]

best new catalogue

[vague knot]

I also bought a junimo from there, my entire house looks like a forest and im obsessed with it xd

[buoyant lark]

retro furniture is so awesome it gives you shag carpet flooring

[vague knot]

oml rly!!! 😮

[rose oxide]

what's the chair glitch doing here?

[gritty laurel]

there was a free prize ticket there

[rose oxide]

where?

[gritty laurel]

i picked it up

[rose oxide]

well yeah but where?

[gritty laurel]

i am gonna take a new screenshot 1 minute

[rose oxide]

that location looks genuinely unfamiliar

[gritty laurel]

its the place of the bookseller

oh wait

you'Re asking where is that place in the valley

[vague knot]

Ah.. the retro fireplace.. SO CUTE 🥹

[gritty laurel]

not the prize ticket right?

[buoyant lark]

yaaaaaaaa

also just the dulled shades of all the furniture. ticks smth in my brain

[silver magnet]

my celebi and espeon

[vague knot]

Its very cozy-vibing indeed 🥹

[open basin]

YES

SV rng gods have shined upon me

Thank you I was starting to lose my mind 🙏

[hidden ore]

you all get these cool coloured ones, I got a dark blue dud. oh well it is level 5, I guess I shouldn't complain

[open basin]

Yea, mine is lv 4 XD

Yours look like a dark magic fairy tho, that's really cool !

Mine is Tinker Bell. (I do love her so it's nice, nostalgic even)

[hidden ore]

is that your horse wearig a ball cap there to the left? 😄

[sharp gazelle]

what is the stardew valley tribune??? I just got a letter about it

[sour veldt]

do somebody know how to activate ||hard mode skull caverns|| on ||desert festival||??

like what do you need

[cloud oyster]

you dont have to spoiler here

also

[sour veldt]

kay

[mental sail]

isn't it qi quest as usual?

[cloud oyster]

you unlock hard mode by completing hard mode mines i think

[lavish rapids]

yeah it's the qi quest

[open basin]

hahaha yea, he looks like a mailman

[cloud oyster]

then you can activate it in sc im pretty sure

[vocal crescent]

Is farming Legend II still a thing in the newest patch? I turned my first one into bait and caught 0 since then. Am I just incredibly unlucky?

[sour veldt]

okay thanks!

[open basin]

A fairy trinket just dropped from a yellow sprite and it FELL in the lava

[silver magnet]

dude is it me or desert festival is the best time to farm for mobs

[open basin]

I wanted a new fairy shit

[lavish rapids]

the DF is the best time to do everything in SC lol

for no other reason then the free +3 luck and +1 speed on top of food

[mental sail]

speaking of unlucky, golden fishing chest with two luck rings, ginger ale, charm and mildly positive daily luck: ten non-deluxe bait. wtf, I didn't even know I could still get those

[hidden ore]

I thought targeted bait did not work with legen or extended family. but challlenge bait does (and maybe quality bobber / curiosity lure, some combo like that)

[swift bay]

nice

[mental sail]

personal harvey

[urban wolf]

i only have 2 master levels

ugh

[hidden ore]

I mean, you have the statue effects that can add more monsters so maybe?

[urban wolf]

my dumbass saw that i need 333 moss the day AFTER the green rain.

for the statue

[tough remnant]

It's not quiet no effect, but it is minimal effect

[low drift]

Possibly stupid question time: do staircases work in the Volcano Dungeon?

[open basin]

Nope

'Cause the idea of the volcano is that you're going up

Rather than down

[hidden ore]

there are no ladders in there, just an doorway thing to the next level

either leave with a totem or from the top or run back out the way you came

[tough remnant]

Basically, Legendaries only ever benefit from targeted bait under the specific circumstance that you reach the end of the list of catchable items for your fishing area without 3 items passing any RNG checks. If this happens, it starts again from the top of the list, and can attempt to hook the Legendary a second time.

This technically improves the odds, but the effect is so negligible (due to all the other fish, algae/seaweed, and trash in the pool) that it's absolutely not worth the targeted bait.

[cloud oyster]

ive been waiting for parrot egg for so long that i just decided to turn my ice rod into perfect, i love money.. but idk if i can live without ice rod anymore

[hidden ore]

Giga returns to us! any word from the volcano excursion?

[woven tusk]

So if I'm not going to try Challenge Bait, my best bet is Deluxe Bait plus Curiosity Lure plus Quality Bobber?

[woven tusk]

I took a shower. People need to do that sometimes.

[tough remnant]

I'd go Wild Bait personally

For Legend II farming

[hidden ore]

imagine letting real life interfere with your stardew valley game 😛

[tough remnant]

IMO the best combo is Wild Bait + Quality Bobber + Curiosity Lure

[gray oriole]

wait i thought legends were immune to wild bait,did it get changed?

[tough remnant]

Actual Legends yes

I believe Extended Family is not

[hidden ore]

here it's the extended family

where you are permitted to catch multiple as long as the quest is ongoing

[gray oriole]

how exactly does wild bait check for legendary fish

[tough remnant]

Uses the "IsBossFish" tag

Which I believe is what causes the fish to render with the crown

Extended Family does not have the crown

[gray oriole]

that's kinda jank ok

so its filtering for bosses not legendaries

[tough remnant]

BossFish is basically what the legendaries are called in the code

I'm not entirely sure where the term "Legendary" actually came from

[cloud oyster]

I JUST GOT ONE

[gray oriole]

there is a context tag called fish_legendary for legendary fish

[daring hinge]

oh may lawd i got blessing of the butterfly for the first time - ive looked EVERYWHERE istg and cannot find it

[gray oriole]

i don't remember where else it appears off the top of my head but i was tinkering around with fish frenzies so i happen to just have this open

[tough remnant]

Interesting. Probably what triggers the "you have caught one of the legendary fish!" dialogue

[hidden ore]

there's the book "Secrets of the Legendary Fish" (lost book etc)

[gray oriole]

fish frenzies specifically check for item category -4 and lack of a fish_legendary tag

[tough remnant]

I wonder if extended family have the tag

[gray oriole]

i have no idea how to check

[tough remnant]

They don't trigger the popup for catching one of the legendary fish

[desert stag]

I cannot find Luck rings lol

[gray oriole]

this is completely unreadable to me

[wooden oyster]

Blade’s vod gives a walkthrough on reading this if you’re interested. I can pull it up.

[tough remnant]

Yeah it's not in there, that's pretty ancient code at this point. The fish modding data page on the wiki is a helpful reference for what index means what

[gray oriole]

or well, I know what most of it does off of context

name, difficulty, ai, seasons, weather r pretty obvious

no clue about the random numbers thrown in though

[wooden oyster]

Right.

[daring hinge]

rip its 1am and i still didnt find the butterfly </3

[gray oriole]

reset the day

or don't

wait are legendary fish hardcoded in

[tough remnant]

Some of them do literally nothing

[tough remnant]

The catch conditions are in Locations.xnb now, they used to be fully hardcoded pretty much

[wooden oyster]

So CA basically completely altered fishing code this update?

[chilly bloom]

A lot of it yeah

If not most

[tough remnant]

Not completely

But it was a pretty huge overhaul

[silver magnet]

Well I hit down another 30 floors into the SC

Ended with a bang

[tough remnant]

Location data replaced most of the old hardcoded exceptions, and targeted bait forced some pretty drastic rewriting of the basic loop

[silver magnet]

Emily free outfits is weird

[gray oriole]

i don't understand where items are created

[wooden oyster]

Gotcha.

[gray oriole]

Locations has the data for catch conditions but not the actual fish item itself

extended family falls under the LEGENDARY_FAMILY condition btw

but that's still not the tag that GameLocation is checking for

so there's like what

3 different tags being used to handle legendary fish?

[tough remnant]

That's a condition to catch the fish

Which I have no idea what triggers it

[gray oriole]

wdym what triggers it

[tough remnant]

Those conditions are conditions that must be met to be able to catch the fish

Oh actually

That condition is literally just Extended Family quest is active

Didn't notice the quotation marks

[gray oriole]

yes

[tough remnant]

Whole thing is one condition

[cloud oyster]

why is my parrot egg only upgrading to level 1 or 2

[ripe osprey]

this cursed mannequin has been up for a good 10 ingame days or so and has yet to do any trolling

i am disappointed

[cloud oyster]

seriously ive tried like 10+ times

oh wait

[tough remnant]

In fact, that's actually the base legendary, that condition is "the player does not currently have the Extended Family quest active"

[ripe osprey]

max lvl is dependant on your total income

[gray oriole]

fun story, green rain counts for rain requirement

[cloud oyster]

i misread the wiki

thats a day restart lmao i wasted so much iridium

[gray oriole]

oops you're right

[tough remnant]

Oh yeah, impossible for it to matter, but it counts anyway

[gray oriole]

this one is extended family

glacierfish jr I think

[tough remnant]

Yeah, notice the lack of ! at the start

[gray oriole]

i still have no idea where the legendary tag is

[tough remnant]

But yeah, that condition is just checking the current active special order to see if it's the Extended Family

I bet if you look at the quest data, you'll see extended family is named "LEGENDARY_FAMILY" in the code

[gray oriole]

smoked fish, moss, raisins, dried fruit, dried mushrooms

[bold tiger]

tyyy

[daring hinge]

oh my god im gonna cry it cant be in the middle-

[buoyant lark]

theres a mod that can help with this

[dry lance]

Are dehydrators better than kegs for af or sf

[mental sail]

no, they're for the cheap bulk stuff that you'd sell raw otherwise because you have no machines free

[dry lance]

Ok thanks

[daring hinge]

omg

[untold kindle]

They're great for like cranberries and blueberries

[gray oriole]

pretty great in general for y1

[buoyant lark]

https://www.nexusmods.com/stardewvalley/mods/10213

dont let the last updated scare you, it still works in 1.6 just fine

[daring hinge]

thank you so muchhh

[buoyant lark]

np! very much helps with how weird the snapping is for furniture in this game

[dapper mica]

What happens if you do the skull cavern invasion during the oasis event?

[gray oriole]

you suffer

[daring hinge]

as someone who's not good at decorating, or making things look 'randomly placed' but in a good way if that makes sense, i tried my best

[buoyant lark]

ohhh this is so purdy though

[daring hinge]

thank you i couldnt bring myself to put different flooring, it kinda messed up the flow in my head but maybe if i put a rug between the rooms it could work

ofc abigails room is.... out of my control 😔

[brazen oar]

how do you tell the "type" of the magic quiver?

[woven tusk]

By reading its prefix if it has one

[mental sail]

compare the numbers

[woven tusk]

If it doesn't have one, it doesn't have a particular type

You can just have a typeless one with a randomized spread

[brazen oar]

okay thanks

[cloud oyster]

theres no villager paths on the ginger island north part right? like no leo walking or anything?

[rich harness]

Is there something I should be saving the fishing jellies for?