archived-update-spoilers

[tough remnant]

Particularly for the Caldera Lava Eel situation

Caldera Lava Eel it flips the script basically

[remote ridge]

So yea
Y'all want the folder with the lists once I'm done

[tough remnant]

Actually, Caldera Lava Eel is weird

Because Lava Eel is always exactly second on the list

So it's always checked

So effectively it swaps the priority of Physics 101 and Lava Eel

[hidden ore]

if you've already gotten physics 101 what happens then?

[drowsy steeple]

trash i assume
edit: misread the question

[tough remnant]

You get it again

You can catch it infinite times

It has high priority 5% catch chance

So it rolls 5%, and it's always at the front of the list of possible catches

But uh... in Caldera, Lava Eel is always second on that list

[hidden ore]

huh, so I have just had odd luck to only get it the one time, interesting

[drowsy steeple]

which part of the code is this? because I don't see a fishing-related code that specifically mentions caldera

[tough remnant]

And Targeted Bait means that first three items on the list get checked

[tender meteor]

Yeah I've only ever gotten one as well

[hidden ore]

not using targeted bait though

[normal mist]

So a thing I discovered last night that might be useful for folks to know: if you complete the magic ink quest on a green rain day, the cutscene won't fire. It will fire the next day, though. I feel like it's not a bug because the wizard says something to the effect of "I'm very busy today and can't be disturbed" if you talk to him, so it feels intentional.

[tough remnant]

It's a natural result of the location data. The only catches are Physics 101 with negative priority, Lava Eel at 0, and Trash at 2000. So the list is always in exactly that order.

[reef mica]

there

[drowsy steeple]

lava eel is at -10?

[tough remnant]

Same deal

Physics 101 is -100

[drowsy steeple]

-20 but i get your point

[tough remnant]

Point is, only three possible catches, and the priority makes their positions in the list deterministic

Anyway, point is, this explains why the numbers were off for regions with large fish pools

Because the targeted bait tries significantly helps in places with large fish pools

[drowsy steeple]

where is this precedence code?

[tough remnant]

        orderby p.Precedence, Game1.random.Next()
        select p;```

[floral geode]

which level do you need to be for fishing to catch the new one? <3

[tough remnant]

Dunno what that'll actually be called in your decomp lol

[neat sentinel]

i wonder if im going to get any good stuff

[tender meteor]

Feels like my SC runs are more determined by statue blessings now than daily luck...

[tender meteor]

Hope you got the treasure book

[tough remnant]

But basically, it loads the fish into a list, then sorts it by precedence, then randomly within each precedence bracket

[drowsy steeple]

ok found it

[manic notch]

treasure totem is kinda broken for farming snake vertebrae and qi beans

[hidden ore]

depends in part on what you consider good stuff right now

[manic notch]

i got like 25

[neat sentinel]

meh

at least its money

i only need the flute for the museum

actually the star too turns out i just didnt notice

[hidden ore]

two wanted items isn't too bad, plus the ancient doll in case you didn't already use that for the easter egg

[tender meteor]

Some of those are worth decent money too

[drowsy steeple]

I still don't understand how (1.) it rolls thrice (2.) the probabilities are dependent

[tough remnant]

That's the targetedBaitTries thing

[neat sentinel]

should i trade the books for spicy eel

[tough remnant]

Technically, it sorta rolls 6 times

[twin pier]

Hello what is 1.64 changelog.

[tough remnant]

Imagine shuffling a deck of cards, drawing the top 3, checking if any of them are an Ace, and if not, then reshuffling the deck and drawing the top 3 again

That's basically what's going on

[drowsy steeple]

why 6? shouldn't it be 4

[tough remnant]

3 tries from the targeted bait thing

[drowsy steeple]

for (int i = 0; i < 2; i++)
this is 2 times
if (baitTargetFish == null || !(fish.QualifiedItemId != baitTargetFish) || targetedBaitTries >= 2)
this is 2 times

[tough remnant]

Then roll the entire lot twice

[drowsy steeple]

oh I'm dumb the int starts with 0

dang that's good odds

[tough remnant]

Actually wait

Fuck this is cursed

The targetedBaitTries doesn't reset between rolls

[tough remnant]

No you were right actually

[drowsy steeple]

it's 3+1 right

[tough remnant]

Just noticed that the targetedBaitTries bit is >=, not >

[drowsy steeple]

the fish order isn't rerolled on the second iteration

[grave violet]

So it is 2 times right

[tough remnant]

Yeah, this is weird

[grave violet]

Doesn’t it check 0 and 1

[drowsy steeple]

so if the first fish isn't the targeted fish, it's not going to be the targeted the second time round

[tough remnant]

Okay, on closer inspection, I think my original "you basically roll twice" was actually right but for the wrong reasons?

[drowsy steeple]

can you explain what this is? ItemQueryResolver.TryResolveRandomItem(spawn, itemQueryContext, avoidRepeat: false, null, (string query) => query.Replace("BOBBER_X"...etc
the code trail runs too deep for me

[neat sail]

You nerds digging into the code again? /j

[drowsy steeple]

[neat sail]

Lmao

[tough remnant]

It iterates over the shuffled list twice

[tough remnant]

It handles location data that's a single entry with multiple possible items

E.g. trash, or the wood/stone from fountain fishing

[drowsy steeple]

oh no effect then

[tidal axle]

THAT WAS A RUN

NEW FLOOR RECORD + FIRST TIME DANGEROUS SC ON THIS SAVE

FLOOR 213

[drowsy steeple]

I want those 2 animal crackers

[tough remnant]

But yeah, basically, it iterates over the shuffled list twice, and returns the first success. If using targeted bait, it can instead return the second success, if the second success is the targeted fish.

As far as I can tell

[regal fulcrum]

I would've kept those tools at home for more slots except the ole' Pickaxe and Sword

[tidal axle]

my shard luck wasnt genuinely insane this run but

i did get better with the explosive ammo

so i consider today a win!

[silver magnet]

what are the chances of getting the fairy box?

[regal fulcrum]

I don't fully comprehend the drop rate of a monster kill, because it drops in that instance, right?

[drowsy steeple]

no you shuffle the deck of cards once, take note of the first card, take note of the second card, then look at the first card again for some reason

if one of the cards is an ace, you take it, but if not, you take the first card

[tough remnant]

First card won't be same on second passover, because of the RNG in passing chance/spawn rate checks

[tidal axle]

you can get trinkets from anywhere in the mines and sc by killing monsters

and breaking crates and treasure room floors!

[neat sail]

YOO GOOD SHIT DUDE

[jovial dune]

okay, what does Reaching do for the pan?

[drowsy steeple]

on the second passover this block won't even be executed and firstNonTargetFish is already populated the first time

{
    return fish;
}
if (firstNonTargetFish == null)
{
    firstNonTargetFish = fish;
}
targetedBaitTries++;```

[regal fulcrum]

It pans further!

[drowsy steeple]

I had the same question actually, I think it lets you pan faster because you don't have to move as far?

[jovial dune]

like... charge it to reach those spots that sometimes spawn out of reach? Is the only thing I can think of.

[tidal axle]

it lets you reach the super annoying panning spots

[tough remnant]

So say you have list of [Physics 101 (5%), Lava Eel (50%), Trash (100%)] (chance to pass checks estimated)
Possible sequences should go:
Physics 101 Pass, Lava Eel Pass: Get Lava Eel
Physics 101 Pass, Lava Eel Fail, Trash Pass: Get Physics 101
Physics 101 Fail, Lava Eel Pass: Get Lava Eel
Physics 101 Fail, Lava Eel Fail, Trash Pass, Physics 101 Pass: Get Trash
Physics 101 Fail, Lava Eel Fail, Trash Pass, Physics 101 Fail, Lava Eel Pass: Get Lava Eel
Physics 101 Fail, Lava Eel Fail, Trash Pass, Physics 101 Fail, Lava Eel Fail, Trash Pass: Get Trash

[tidal axle]

i should probably have used a different trinket but honestly im in love with this ice rod jwjw

[hidden ore]

ok I actually understand this now, I think!

[neat sail]

I desperately need an ice rod

[tidal axle]

YOURE GOING TO LOVE IT AAAGAHSHDNDH

[tough remnant]

It iterates over the list either until you've passed twice (in which case it returns the first item), or the targeted fish has passed (in which case it returns the targeted fish)

[tidal axle]

i especially love how it fucks you over but only sometimes

[neat sail]

Lmfao

[robust spoke]

[open basin]

I think that's why I ended up chesting it at first

I was trying to kill a dragon in the Volcano and the rod kept freezing it

So it was invincible 🤣

[neat sail]

Slingshot time

[tough remnant]

Actually wait no

[tidal axle]

I LOVE WHEN THIS HAPPENS

[tough remnant]

I think this is probably bugged lol

[tidal axle]

"well, okay, i guess im NOT killing that thing"

[open basin]

yea 😭

I was just

[tidal axle]

the other trinkets are probably fun too!

I haven't tried frog egg or basilisk paw tho

[open basin]

I have both and only the frog was fun

Lil fella, hopping around

being all silly

Then BAM! he just ate a pepper rex(?)

[tidal axle]

i kinda wanna try him out but idk if reforges work on him aside from aesthetic and idk if i wanna sacrifice drops...

[open basin]

That's why I put it in a chest

[neat sail]

Parrot egg is cute

[harsh plover]

guys help, I've been checking each tree on ginger island every single day for a whole 2 seasons and haven't gotten a single golden coconut
I think I broke my game cause the day before that streak started I got 3 and then died in the volcano

[open basin]

I don't wanna sacrifice drops

[neat sail]

You've been chopping them?

[tough remnant]

Okay, so if 3 items that aren't the targeted fish pass the random checks, it also returns the 3rd item

[drowsy steeple]

it doesn't return except for targeted fish so the list is iterated continuously even if some fish has passed

[tidal axle]

ahhh fair enough haha

[harsh plover]

No just shaking

[tidal axle]

IT ISSS I LOVE HOE IT SITS ON YOUR HEAD IDLY

[neat sail]

Chop for the wood anyway, sometimes the coconut doesn't fall until the last chop for me

[drowsy steeple]

I don't think it can even return more than 1 thing unless GetFishFromLocationData is also iterated?

[tough remnant]

So there's actually 3 possible end conditions:

• Complete Two Iterations of the list with 2 or less items passing: Return the first item that passed
• 3 items pass at any point: Return the third item
• Targeted fish passes at any point: Return the targeted fish

[hidden ore]

do people in here regularly chop down the coconut trees on ginger island? I never have

[mental sail]

rarely. maybe at first, if I need wood for chests and didn't bring any

[neat sail]

I always do just for the wood since I run low and I'm not bothered to go to cindersap

Also golden coconuts

[mental sail]

the claim that coconuts drop from chopping is new to me, shaking was always enough

[hidden ore]

I shake 'em for coconuts, and I regularly chop down the ones in the desert

[tidal axle]

i always do that ESPECIALLY the mahogany trees

[hidden ore]

I do clear the mahogany trees regularly but they don't drop anything but wood and seeds, so it's ok

[neat sail]

Dropped on the last chop a couple times for me so, better safe than sorry

[pine light]

@astral vine Are you ever considering switching to the more efficient shed layout using iridium scythe

[tidal axle]

god i didn't even consider that would be a thing that's so funny

[regal fulcrum]

Nice. If only that applies to Kegs. inb4 mod is created where Iridium Scythe can scythe machines as well.

[neat sail]

Thank sicarious for it lmao

[pine light]

I use automate mod so I can fill the entire building with sheds and it doesnt matter lol

[harsh plover]

I just chopped all of the trees, no golden coconut just 58 regular coconuts and now I gotta wait for them to regrow for another chance 3:

[regal fulcrum]

Skill issue.

[mellow atlas]

DAAAAMN

[pine barn]

I only need to kill 11 more pepper rex but the SC refuses to give me any!!

[mellow atlas]

that't me 1 month before

[astral vine]

This! I could try~ Thanks for this. I currently only have 128 garden pots on each shed.

[neat sail]

Rip

[tidal axle]

of course it was sicarious that guys so cool 😭😭

[astral vine]

But wait... i plant my SFs and SF is a single harvest crop. How am I going to place the seeds?

[pine light]

i thought you planted single harvests in GI

lmao

[astral vine]

I mean i plant other single harvest crops on GI

[hidden ore]

that's why I don't chop down the gi coconut trees, so I can in fact check them whenever I'm there instead of waiting for regrow

[astral vine]

i plant my SFs in shed

in my main farm

[mellow atlas]

I remember when I thought 100k/week was a lot and now I'm making 100k/day

[pine light]

what crops/processing you using

[mellow atlas]

my greenhouse has a mixture of AF and starfruit, I have two barns of pigs, I have mostly AF and strawberries on GI

I'm not anywhere near optimal capacity

[drowsy steeple]

if the targeted fish is not the first or second item that passes the block will not be executed?

[mellow atlas]

to be honest I tend to focus on qi quests and special orders

[astral vine]

wait... this is my farm set up #farms-and-outfits message

sheds near the mushroom cave:
4 sheds - regrow plants
2 sheds - empty

8 sheds (yellow) - Starfruit
8 sheds (pink/red) - Fairy Roses

Other sheds are just storage for things.

[tough remnant]

It will be, the targetedBaitAttempts >= 2 means it's executed even if it's not the target fish

[regal fulcrum]

No Keg Sheds? I fear the architecture of the surrounding areas including the Quarry and the Train Station.

[astral vine]

My GH is filled with AFs

[drowsy steeple]

yes if the first and second time it's not the target fish all the chances will have run out by the third?

[tough remnant]

Imagine the following sequence of checks for Caldera:
Physics 101 Pass, Lava Eel Fail, Trash Pass, Physics 101 Fail, Lava Eel Pass

Under this circumstance, it returns Lava Eel

[open basin]

How does one turn a shed into a greenhouse? the lil pots Granny gives us the recipe of?

[drowsy steeple]

init targetedBaitTries = 0
Physics 101 Pass => targetedBaitTries = 1
Trash Pass => targetedBaitTries = 2
Lava Eel Pass => doesn't even check if lava eel is targeted

[regal fulcrum]

That and the Deluxe Retaining Soil.

[open basin]

Jeez

[tough remnant]

Correct

But it returns the 3rd thing

[drowsy steeple]

huh, how?

[tough remnant]

{
    return fish;
}```

If targetedBaitTries==2, it returns the fish that just passed the check

Whatever it is

(Well, item rather than fish, but still)

[drowsy steeple]

no if it fails it return the firstNonTargetFish

{
    return firstNonTargetFish;
}```

the check can pass for way more than 3 times

if absolutely everything fails you get sunfish

[tough remnant]

Those are all or gates

The thing that you're looking at is what happens if there are 2 or less fish that pass

Over the full 2 iterations

[mellow atlas]

quick question

[tough remnant]

It never gets to that code if 3 fish pass their checks

[mellow atlas]

can anyone tell me what the last two on the right are?

[drowsy steeple]

the inner loop has nothing to return except for targeted fish?

[pine light]

mystic syrup and raisins

[mellow atlas]

ah, that makes sense

thanks

[pine light]

we need to make a new bot command that just shows what the new shippables are lmao

seems like every 2 days someone asks this

[mellow atlas]

or, someone needs to update the wiki

I only asked because it wasn't on the wiki

._.

[tough remnant]

It returns "thing that was just hooked", if either "there is no target fish", "the thing is the target fish", or "we've already hooked 2 other things"

[drowsy steeple]

I'm not sure we're looking at the same piece of code because I don't see another return in that loop

[tough remnant]

It doesn't skip return fish; if targetedBaitTries>=2, it executes it regardless of other conditions

[neat sail]

Yeah, I would but I've no clue how to update the template

[drowsy steeple]

oh I get it now

[tough remnant]

{
    return fish;
}```

Condition 1 = there is no target fish
Condition 2 = this is the target fish
Condition 3 = this is the third thing to pass the checks

If any of those conditions are met, it returns fish

[drowsy steeple]

I think I got confused because of the second condition

read it like
if (baitTargetFish == !null && !(fish.QualifiedItemId != baitTargetFish) && !targetedBaitTries >= 2)

thanks for putting up with my dumb ass lmao

[drowsy steeple]

ok now to calculate the probability of this

[woven tusk]

I eagerly await the results for catfish, sturgeon, legend(II), lava eel, and possibly super cucumber

[drowsy steeple]

I want to find out too, currently watching a video now on probabilities of probabilities

[tough remnant]

Yeah not happening, this is cursed to calculate. Doable for caldera lava eels just because the list of outcomes is so short, but still...

[drowsy steeple]

there's a bayesian thing to do that but I'm way out of practice give me a sec

[dapper mauve]

Does anyone know what the 3 items here are? added with 1.6

[brittle peak]

Mystic syrup, raisens, and dehydrated fruit

Iirc

[neat sail]

Yoo stardrop tea and gold void salmon in one catch

Lucky day

[dapper mauve]

I've been looking for these for 3 hours, thank you, finally finished

[neat sail]

Guys..

1.6 officially fucked my museum

No

Nevermind

[woven tusk]

I hope it used a rubber

[neat sail]

I'm an idiot

[open basin]

lol

[neat sail]

I thought I needed scroll IV..

I needed I

[stark glade]

the torturous work that is rearranging your museum collection

glad I did that before donating all the items

[woven tusk]

It doesn't lock their positions after completion anymore

[neat sail]

Oh fr??

[stark glade]

left of gunther

I think is a book you can click to organize them

[woven tusk]

Yeah you can just reorganize them at will after completion, it was added... 1.4? Late 1.3?

[chilly bloom]

Hasn’t for a while

You just go and interact with the desk and it allows you to reorganize museum

[neat sail]

Damn

[pine light]

It doesn’t add anything new?

[chilly bloom]

They clarify they messed up right after

[stark glade]

would be so much easier to organize the collection if you could do it like a clash of clans base
they'd all stay in a little sidebar inventory you can pick and drop

[neat sail]

It did actually mess up my game a tad

Got dwarvish translation guide with only 3 scrolls donated

But

Thankfully not a lot

[mellow atlas]

Now that I built the mountain obelisk I don't go to the backwoods anymore cuz I can skip it

[hidden ore]

I walk or ride through the backwoods for that tasty forage, even though I don't need it. I have a weakness for leeks and hazelnuts, what can I say

[mellow atlas]

they're good for gifting. worth it imo

hoard your rabbit's feet

[neat sail]

Keep forgetting they're a loved gift, I get a good few I just sell

[astral vine]

175,000g, 450 wood and 100 hardwood to upgrade house

Then 390,000g for renovations...

its a bit expensive but I'm gonna use my gold like water till I go broke.

[ripe osprey]

oh shit they took away our ability to make polls
did ppl start spamming or what

[chilly bloom]

They’re just annoying and take up a lot of screen space

They’re still in some channels

[brittle peak]

We did a few polls didn't think it was that much

[ripe osprey]

discord always manages to implement things as badly as possible
could've made them retracted until you clicked on em

[hidden ore]

check the announcement in the #bulletin-board channel, it was never intended to be unrestricted

[ripe osprey]

makes sense, nice

[hidden ore]

you don't have to do the renovations or even the second house upgrade for perfection, (I think you need it for the missing bundle only), put it off if you like

[mellow atlas]

damn bro looking good

[woven tusk]

Maybe they just want them because House 🅱️ig

[hidden ore]

oh I wanted them too and got them, but perfection came first, then I could save money and spend it on random stuff like that

it's all in the playstyle that suits a person though

[glacial zephyr]

what are the best ring combinations i am think of combining iridium and napalm?

idk if it is worth it though

[woven tusk]

Napalm is risky on the farm due to Truffle crabs

[glacial zephyr]

oh im not using pigs anyway

so what is the actual best combo?

[woven tusk]

Well, Luck rings are popular

[glacial zephyr]

what about iriduim and vampire?

or iriuium and pheonix

[jovial dune]

I'm gonna try Generous with the pan instead of Reaching, I think. We'll see how this goes

[glacial zephyr]

idk what is better vampire or pheonix

[jovial dune]

I always cross Iridium and Slime Charmer, and Luck and Burglar. But I might switch to Luck and Aquamarine (+crit chance%, coz I'm a crit build)

[glacial zephyr]

or crabshell??

yeah ill switch at some point

[jovial dune]

Slime Charmer makes like half the enemies in the game harmless. Slimes are so much more plentiful than others

[glacial zephyr]

how do i get it?

guild?

[jovial dune]

kill 1k slimes and get it from the adventurer's guild

[glacial zephyr]

i should be close to that

[gray oriole]

Idk about half

There’s so much more enemy variety now

Esp in SC

[mellow atlas]

thought I would test how far the iridium scythe reaches.

[gray oriole]

Its 2 tiles to the left/down/right, 3 tiles upwards

You can make the top most rows 3 thick but the cornermost tile cant be reached

[hidden ore]

I have idirium + burglar, iridium + slime charmer, and (to swap in when needed) iridium + lucky, other peopel go for napalm or vampire, all depends

[green gyro]

is ginger ale or triple shot better for skull cavern?

[gray oriole]

Triple shot imo

[green gyro]

i'm using rock candy if that changes anything

[hidden ore]

you can spicy eel it up for the extra bit of luck

[mellow atlas]

ale if you're just staircasing for treasure rooms. coffee if you're doing anything else.

[gray oriole]

Then triple shot even more

[mellow atlas]

that's what I do anyway

[hidden ore]

yeah you're good for luck already, you oughta get some speed on

[mellow atlas]

nuh uh, I'm gonna mrc + qi seasoned ginger ale and you can't stop me

[warped delta]

so i can just plant whatever i want in garden pots at my home, use deluxe retaining soil and boom wine for life?

[mellow atlas]

[gray oriole]

No ancient fruit

But yes

[warped delta]

starfruit?

[glacial zephyr]

okay so between vampire, pheonix and crabshell rings which is the best?

[mellow atlas]

even better, you can do hops!

[chilly bloom]

100%

[warped delta]

oh yes no need to replant then

[gray oriole]

Do you have farming mastery yet

[chilly bloom]

Pretty much

[mellow atlas]

the trellis doesn't matter if it's already in a garden pot.

[warped delta]

yeah all max

[gray oriole]

Iridium scythe buffs garden pots by a lot

[chilly bloom]

With regrowables you can even use the scythe to plant more

[gray oriole]

Since you can double/triple layer hops or pineapples

[chilly bloom]

2 to the sides and 3 thick up and down

[gray oriole]

I have coffee plants growing in the little cubby next to my front door

[glacial zephyr]

.

[warped delta]

okay so I tripling pineapples i think, thanks for the help!

[gray oriole]

All 3 kinda suck?

Vampire is ok ig

[tough remnant]

3 thick up, 2 thick down. Or 5 thick if accessible from both top and bottom

[chilly bloom]

Those are all bad but for survivability crabshell

[glacial zephyr]

okay ty

[gray oriole]

Defense in general is kinda sad when enemies in later content hit for upwards of like 50 dmg

[pliant elk]

Any tips for finding the prismatic butterfly?

[chilly bloom]

I guess the swing distance is a bit different for harvesting than it was changed for combat

Or just calculated differently

[gray oriole]

Find it and then restart the day

Or something

It can spawn anywhere in the valley but farm iirc

[chilly bloom]

It can only spawn in certain areas, search those then reset the day when you find it and go there straight away

[tough remnant]

Probably scythe harvest code is still using actual animation somehow yeah

[chilly bloom]

Nah there are like 7 or smt locations it can

[pliant elk]

Thank you!

[chilly bloom]

Shame

[gray oriole]

…the valley has 7 locations

[tough remnant]

Doesn't really affect shed strats that much. You can still do this

[gray oriole]

mountain, backwoods, cindersap, secret woods, town, beach

• farm but i already said that was excluded

[chilly bloom]

No?

Railroad is also a valley location

[tough remnant]

Missing railroad and bus stop

[brittle peak]

What's the best crop other then sf and af?

[gray oriole]

Ah bus stop

[tough remnant]

Hops if you're masochistic enough to deal with the extreme labour requirements

[gray oriole]

Which is also a valid spawn

[gray oriole]

(This is a bad idea)

[tough remnant]

Lemme find my list of monocrop candidates

A brief rundown of the top 10 crops in terms of pure profitability under ideal conditions (i.e. greenhouse or island, pre-established field for regrowth crops, field already covered in speedgro otherwise, as many off-farm processing machines as you need, etc.):

1. Hops (Pale Ale) - 420g/d
2. Starfruit (Wine) - 393g/d with HSG and Profession Swapping. Drops to 343g/d with no profession swapping
3. Ancient Fruit (Wine) - 330g/d
4. Sweet Gem Berry (Raw) - 212g/d with HSG, Agriculturalist, and eating +4 farming food before harvesting, and purchased seeds. Drops to 144g/d if using seedmaker to acquire seeds.
5. Pineapple (Wine) - 180g/d
6. Blueberries (Wine or Jelly) - 159g/d
7. Cranberries (Wine) - 133g/d
8. Pumpkin (Juice) - 130g/d with HSG + Profession Swapping. Drops to 112g/d with no profession swapping (Not accounting for giant crops, which are a major boost but difficult to calculate)
9. Strawberries (Wine) - 129g/d
10. Rhubarb (Wine) - 118g/d with HSG + Profession Swapping. Drops to 103g/d with no profession swapping

[chilly bloom]

But melons?

Isn’t it better than rhubarb?

[brittle peak]

Thanks

I didn't know hops was better then sf and af

[chilly bloom]

250 sell price over 12 days for 80g seed cost vs 220 over 13 for 100g

[chilly bloom]

It’s a hell of a lot more effort though

[brittle peak]

Yeah

[tough remnant]

I left it off the list because it was yet another summer crop IIRC

[chilly bloom]

Tad odd but sure

[tough remnant]

And I wanted to have the strawberry/rhubarb comparison

[hidden ore]

it is but requires daily work, which is why it's not very popular

[gray oriole]

“Better”

[hidden ore]

if you are just wanting some variety, pineapple is not a bad third thing to toss into the mix, though it's a lot less profit.

[tough remnant]

Pineapple is noteworthy for being the best (non-Hops) shed-compatible crop

[chilly bloom]

At least now with the scythe

[tough remnant]

Even before it still kinda was

Now though it's better

[harsh plover]

Do you guys agree that these are the best enchantments for each tool?

Pickaxe - Swift
Axe - Shaving
Hoe - Generous
Watering Can - Bottomless
Pan - Generous

[chilly bloom]

Mhm

[tough remnant]

Like, nobody was going to manually water their starfruit

[glacial zephyr]

Does buying all golden nuts make it so you cant get 100% perfection?

[chilly bloom]

Wasn’t drs sf better tho

[hidden ore]

no 😄 but some of that is a matter of taste. I prefer reaching for hoe/watering can, the rest are fine

[hidden ore]

you can still get perfection. even if you buy waivers too.

[glacial zephyr]

what in the game actually makes it so yopu cant get perfection?

or can you perfection no matter what?

[hidden ore]

you can always get it unless you encounter some serious game breaking bug.

[glacial zephyr]

okay

[hidden ore]

now depending on what you do, it might take longer than it could, but that doesn't matter so much imo

[harsh plover]

My reasoning for watering can and hoe is you only ever need to till and water tiles once, and then just keep them tilled + fertilized with fiber seeds or multi seasonal crops, and keep them watered with sprinklers

[tough remnant]

True actually, DRS Starfruit is 250g/d with profession swapping, 211.5g/d without. But now pineapple is iridium scythe compatible

[hidden ore]

yeah I often let my main farm crop areas go untiled, so I need the reaching.

[harsh plover]

Depends on your playstyle I guess :p

I was originally going to go powerful on the pick but it's much weaker than I thought which is a shame

Oh and wait I forgot Master for the fishing rod

[tough remnant]

Anyway, accounting for the space compression of sheds, you can fit 167 pineapple plants in a ~28 tile area (assuming 1-wide access path in front of the big shed), which takes it from 180g/d/t to 1074g/d/t

[hidden ore]

yeah master on the rod goes without saying, and I've had the same experience with powerful on the pickaxe not being really noticeable

[chilly bloom]

Also they were also just way faster to plant and harvest

Like 30 minutes vs 1:20

[tough remnant]

A big shed full of potted hops can theoretically make 2505g/d/t lol

[hidden ore]

lol is right

[tough remnant]

70140g per day per shed that you can be bothered to actually harvest and process

[chilly bloom]

You’re accounting for walking between them

[harsh plover]

On the wiki it says it adds two levels to the axe, and only one for the pickaxe (which only lets it break iridium in 3 hits instead of 4 and minor stuff like that)

I think it should be buffed to give 2 on both

[hidden ore]

funny how I don't want to spend a large chunk of every day kegging things. thanks but no thanks

[chilly bloom]

Building clipping is still barely in the game and you could still teir the buildings though it looks a bit hideous

[hidden ore]

by the time you are worrying about that, you're using bombs for most iridium nodes anyways. so it's really only useful in the volcano dungeon, and then not all that useful...

[chilly bloom]

True lol

[pine barn]

4. I only need to kill 4 more pepper rex, but can I find them? 😠

[chilly bloom]

Wait sicarious how many crops are in the new shed layout?

[tough remnant]

167

My initial estimate of 165 before actually mapping it out was damn close lol

[hidden ore]

check the predictor and see what it says about possible floors? oh but maybe you'll find some isolated ones.... good luck!!

[harsh plover]

Pepper Rexes mostly spawn on prehistoric floors but can also spawn on regular floors rarely

I think if you go like 100 floors each trip you should be able to kill 4 in 2-3 trips to the cavern

[chilly bloom]

Does that even make pineapple better than sf with profession swapping

[harsh plover]

And like Apergos said if you don't wanna leave it up to chance and just know ahead of time you can use the predictor

[hidden ore]

at least you can see if there might be one in the first 100 levels, if not, save your bombs and stuff for another day

[tough remnant]

... actually no lol

[chilly bloom]

Ooh it barely edges out non agri sf

[tough remnant]

It's close though

[chilly bloom]

Non agri is is like 5% off or smt

Lol

[tough remnant]

Pineapple Shed is 30.0k per day, Profession Swapping Starfruit Shed is 34.2k per day, Artisan Starfruit Shed is 28.9k per day

Per Shed

[ripe osprey]

tf is profession swapping

[tough remnant]

You use Agriculturalist 99% of the time and horde wine

And then once every few years, you spend 20k to temporarily change to Artisan and back just long enough to sell your stacks of wine

[hidden ore]

an extremely end game move as you can imagine

[harsh plover]

Switching professions at the sewer with the statue of uncertainty depending on what you're gonna do at the following days

For example stacking all your artisan stuff and using agriculturalist- okay nevermind he explained it better

[chilly bloom]

Wait 29.9 or 28.9

[tough remnant]

Oops

[ripe osprey]

maximus tryhardus, i like it

[tough remnant]

Funny thing about profession swapping is that to do it as efficiently as possible, you don't even ship the wine

You sell it all to Pierre

[glacial zephyr]

which parrot do i trade nuts to?

[tough remnant]

Because that lets you use statue same day

[harsh plover]

Then you buy it back again after you switch proffesions back right?

[tough remnant]

Rather than needing to wait for the day after you sold to use the statue again

[hidden ore]

where he gets the millions to buy all that, who knows. never did trust that guy

[harsh plover]

At cheaper

[scenic fox]

How do i catch prismatic butterfly? I found it above the water in the mountain and it disappeared

[harsh plover]

Or do you not do that

[tough remnant]

No that bug got patched

[harsh plover]

Ohh

[chilly bloom]

Now it’s always double the base sell price buyback

[glacial zephyr]

?

[pine barn]

Yes, I know. But I ahe spent the past week getting to level 80 every day and I'm still 4 short

[harsh plover]

I'd say ginger house first

[hidden ore]

sorry? I don't quite understand the question

[harsh plover]

So you can sleep on the island

[pine barn]

I don;t like using mods. 🙂

[ripe osprey]

not a mod, a third party website that analyses your save file!

[glacial zephyr]

acually im stupis where do i find farm obelisk?

[hidden ore]

it's not a mod. it's a standalone site, assuming you are on pc and have access to your save file, it can just show you the possibilities

[harsh plover]

It's actually a save file checker on the web but I understand if you wanna play completely vanilla

[ripe osprey]

left of the house, you need to unlock both the house and the mailbox first

[tough remnant]

Maximum tryhard is hops sheds. Literally 70k per day for a Hops shed if you process it all into Pale Ale.

Downside, you need to harvest the shed with fairly precise iridium scything every day, and also unload and reload 167 kegs per shed per day

[hidden ore]

ah. well you need to unlock farmhouse, then mailbox, then the obelisk would be available to unlock

[scenic fox]

How do i catch prismatic butterfly? I found it above the water in the mountain and it disappeared

[hidden ore]

but I would advise unlocking all the areas of the island first before buildings and such

(all the areas includes: path to farm, dig site, resort because that opens up the east part of the island)

[ripe osprey]

jesus christ, i'll keep my conventional farming so i don't have to do that everyday lol

[harsh plover]

Lol I actually did resort as one of the last ones and I think that was a mistake

[glacial zephyr]

okay i have obelisk now

how can i use the rest of the nuts to but qi gems?

[harsh plover]

Unlock the walnut room

[tough remnant]

Actually holy shit that's hilarious I just realised. Hops shed where you literally just ignore the daily regrowth and do it every second day instead is still better than profession swapping + starfruit lol

[harsh plover]

You can only buy the gems after you purchased every single parrot upgrade

[hidden ore]

thank goodness

imagine if someone could actually lock themselve sout of perfection by trading in their walnuts early

[glacial zephyr]

ty

[tough remnant]

The cow above the bed is certainly a choice

[hidden ore]

udderly ridiculous, you meant to say 😛

[tough remnant]

It looks somehow judgemental in that context

With the narrowed eyes

[ripe osprey]

"thou art committing a sinful act, yoba will be notified of this"

[fluid viper]

How do you get shaym?

[ripe osprey]

"i, personally, am very displeased"

[fluid viper]

Also OWW, lucky pants hurt ;-;

[woven tusk]

You can see why Lewis wanted you to find the one he already had, rather than go downstairs and face that thing to get another pair

[fluid viper]

xD

Like, this was about two hits

[hidden ore]

ice rod.

[arctic crest]

Why do you think his shorts are so angry?

something to do with marnie mayhaps?

[pine barn]

Becasue I did the basement, I finally did the shorts at the autumn fair. First time I've ever done that 😄

[hidden ore]

I bet the cursed shorts are like a guard dog, Lewis can go get the pair any time but anyone else try to mess around, they get what's coming to them!

[pine barn]

I almost died getting them too

you can't fight back and there's no defense

[quasi oracle]

do you even think he washes them

[hidden ore]

again: ice rod.

maybe it was an oversight and it will be patched out, but it freezes them right in place!

[pine barn]

I didn't have any trinkets at that point

[hidden ore]

ah, that would be an issue

[pine barn]

or actually, I didn't know the pants would fight back. I only knew there was a basement secret

[brittle peak]

When I go I am definitely bringing a warp totem out of there

[hidden ore]

I came prepared to die. Instead, I waltzed out with a brand spanking new (I hope they are not used!) pair of shorts, taking my own sweet time

[harsh plover]

can a weapon have both an innate enchantment AND a combat enchantment at the same time?

[ripe osprey]

my luck never fails me

[crude talon]

ok so what am i missing, i tried the axe picaxe nothing

[worn kernel]

me and my coops cant buy a new pet (we have a bowl and the first pet at 5 hearts)

[harsh plover]

Go from higher

[fluid viper]

Nothing is back there

[harsh plover]

not here

[crude talon]

ahhh

[fluid viper]

Wait, there is something?

[harsh plover]

Behind the pink tree (;

[crude talon]

i was trying to hard lol

[chilly bloom]

Are you playing 1.6

[fluid viper]

O.o

[chilly bloom]

You just have to go up higher, it’s hidden

Almost opposite of the secret statue entrance area

[crude talon]

yeah i was trying to hard gorilla LOLL i found it

[hidden ore]

ok so how did you manage to get two of those??

[ripe osprey]

big slime (that has a galaxy soul in it)+ burglar ring and a bit of luck

[chilly bloom]

Either luck from 2 drops or they killed a slime with it in it with burglar

It’s guaranteed to drop 2

[hidden ore]

man the big slimes I run into never have those, so sad

[ripe osprey]

oh

well, still lucky that it spawned lul!

[harsh plover]

Extremely common burglar's ring W

[ripe osprey]

there are no burglar's ring Ls after all

science has yet to create such a thing

[fluid viper]

How do you get burglar ring?

[chilly bloom]

Decently so, if you’re looking out for them they’re pretty easy to spot and it’s the best way to get the galaxy souls

[chilly bloom]

Monster slayer reward for 500 dust sprite

[ripe osprey]

well now i'm only 2 souls short to get all 3 infinity weapons, very cool

[chilly bloom]

Nice

[hidden ore]

I spent oh 7-8 sc runs just looking for and slagging big slimes. not one galaxy soul. not ONE

and yes only good luck days in case that made a difference

[chilly bloom]

Was it the dangerous mines?

Dangerous sc*

[ripe osprey]

i have no idea about my daily luck, i just came here to kill ghosts for ectoplasm
i did get the ectoplasm too lol
and yes, dangerous sc

[chilly bloom]

I was talking to apergos as you can only get them in the dangerous state

They may have been running the regular version

[hidden ore]

oh? I wasn't aware, I thought as long as it was the big slimes they might have them

[chilly bloom]

Nah has to be dangerous sc

[ripe osprey]

nah, qi room stuff only spawns in dangerous variants

[chilly bloom]

^

[hidden ore]

isn't it after 50 monsters killed in dangerous mines or dangerous sc, there's a chance to drop?

[chilly bloom]

Nope

[ripe osprey]

and if you gonna SC, might as well go dangerous because radioactive ore

[chilly bloom]

They only spawn when the danger sc is active

[hidden ore]

ah well I didn't know

I might as well just do the dangerous mines a bunch then, I've got those set to dangerous state

[chilly bloom]

Just want to clarify, this is true but it also needs to be when the danger mode is active

[brittle peak]

Does iridium nodes spawn in the dangerous sc still?

[ripe osprey]

yep

just look at the amount of enemies for me to slaughter, this truly makes dangerous sc superior

[chilly bloom]

Yeah

[ripe osprey]

"ooOOOOOOH"
crusader enchant goes brrrrr

[grave violet]

I like vampirism more

Especially good for the hungry challenges

[ripe osprey]

i just lock in and go hitless if i need to do that one

only lvl 100 anyway

[grave violet]

I might try with crab shell next time

[grave violet]

It’s harder mid game

[fluid viper]

...ok, I just saw a rabbit run through a wall and the adventure guild house...

[ripe osprey]

well if you're doing Qi quests i wonder how you don't have an enchanted iridium pickaxe yet

or a galaxy sword

[hidden ore]

if you're going down there with the goal to kill many things fast, crusader is wonderful, 100% recommend

[grave violet]

Bombs

I don’t have bombs

[ripe osprey]

you don't even need bombs for lvl 100

i never use bombs in sc

[grave violet]

Also it’s pretty hard to deal with the sc if you don’t have ladders

[ripe osprey]

what

cmon it ain't that bad!

[grave violet]

I hit infested floors 3 times

[ripe osprey]

i never use ladders either

unless infested floor and i'm really close to the end or something and have no time

[hidden ore]

depends on the floor but infested floors can be a time sink if you're trying to get deep as fast as possible

[grave violet]

Well yeah, I didn’t have ladders on me

[ripe osprey]

depends on the floor layout too, some i'd definitely keep a ladder around for

but most i just clear, it's fun

[hidden ore]

spirals. yeah

[grave violet]

I might use my 100 iridium bars on crystalriums for jades

[ripe osprey]

yeah.

just run around with swift iri pick and get ladders fast, very easy to use

[grave violet]

Battery packs might be an issue

[grave violet]

I died on floor 99 due to serpent dropping a bomb and me instantly using it

[hidden ore]

woopsie

[grave violet]

Hehe

I had 100 stone in my inventory too

Whatever though it’s fine

[ripe osprey]

unfortunate end

tbh for SC if you really worry about health you can get fairy trinket if you have one

[hidden ore]

who trusts a farmer with serious explosives anyways. sometimes this game...

[ripe osprey]

it heals soooo much

[grave violet]

I’ll probably push floor 200 on the next star luck day

[grave violet]

I unlocked qi before combat mastery

[ripe osprey]

what

[grave violet]

Do you guys not lol

[ripe osprey]

no

[lavish lintel]

did CA just nerfed the recipe for the basic speed grow?

[ripe osprey]

i got mastery 5 before unlocking ginger island

[grave violet]

Lmao

Guess you’re a bit more casual than me

[hidden ore]

you can get to the walnut room pretty fast but it's hard to speed up combat 9->10 unless you're really spending a lot of time on monster slayer goals

[lavish lintel]

instead of clams and pine tar, you need moss and pine tar to craft speed-gro in 1.6

[ripe osprey]

i got mastery 5 on spring of y2

got ginger island a bit after

[grave violet]

Yeah I got ginger island fall 1

Or fall 3 technically

[hidden ore]

what did you do for red cabbage?

[grave violet]

Traveling cart

[ripe osprey]

remixed community center:

[hidden ore]

ah lucky

[ripe osprey]

y'all should try remixed, very cool

[grave violet]

Wdym lucky lol

[hidden ore]

I mean I got red cabbage year 2 a week after growing it

[grave violet]

I had guarantee y1 completion

[hidden ore]

ooohh!

[grave violet]

Do you check traveling cart?

[hidden ore]

yes religiously but... it just wasn't there until too late. but also I did not use that setting

[grave violet]

Religiously?

[hidden ore]

every friday and sunday. without fail.

[grave violet]

Never heard religiously being used in that way before

But yeah I always have that

[hidden ore]

informal
If you do something religiously, you do it regularly:
He visits his mother religiously every week.
(source: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/religiously ))

[grave violet]

I got lucky and when I didn’t have any money for it, the next week they came back

[hidden ore]

now that IS luck

[grave violet]

🙂

Well not really actually

[ripe osprey]

y'all want ?

[grave violet]

That setting guarantees a red cabbages in the traveling cart

The first time around she was selling the seed packet

[grave violet]

Nooo save your copper for tappers 😭

[tough remnant]

Still sorta luck, the setting guarantees a red cabbage or red cabbage seed, but it can be as late as Winter 14

[cloud oyster]

Just kill serpents for the seed

[grave violet]

Oh btw sic, did you figure out what targeted bait really does

[tough remnant]

Yes and I hate it because it makes calculations a pain in the arse

[grave violet]

Can you please describe

[robust spoke]

More

[tough remnant]

Take the shuffled list of fish. Iterate though it on loop (without reshuffling) until one of the following happens:

• The targeted fish passes its RNG check, then hook that fish
• 3 items pass their RNG checks, then hook the third item
• You go through the entire list twice without either of the above happening, then hook the first item that passed its RNG checks

Guaranteed to be at least two items that pass by end of second loop, since trash exists everywhere and you'll hit it once at the end of each loop

It also makes the targeted fish much more likely to pass one of its two RNG checks

[grave violet]

So the wiki x1.66 is wrong?

[tough remnant]

That's the 1.66

[grave violet]

Oh does it simplify

[ripe osprey]

those are just bombs i've gathered from killing monsters lmao

[tough remnant]

One of the RNG checks is needing to roll under Spawn Chance + 2% x Fishing Level

[grave violet]

Oh nice so fishing level matters

[tough remnant]

Targeted Bait multiplies that whole value by 1.66

[grave violet]

I see

[tough remnant]

In addition to the weirdness mentioned earlier

[grave violet]

So if this is above 0.6 it’s guaranteed targeted fish?

[tough remnant]

No

[grave violet]

Cause 0.6*1.66 is 1

[woven tusk]

Competing with every other fish's bite rate

[grave violet]

Oh right

The percentages don’t add to 100

[golden pond]

Man this is too much math for me to remember lmfao

[tough remnant]

As I said, that's only one of 2 RNG checks, and there's a chance for 3 other items to pass first in most areas

[grave violet]

Ah okay

[tough remnant]

Targeted Bait can guarantee passing the spawn rate check

But it can't guarantee a good shuffle on the fish list, and it can't guarantee locational chance

[ripe osprey]

ready for anotha skull cavern run 😤

[tough remnant]

Iridium cheese? Fancy

[ripe osprey]

Inefficient ✅
Fancy ✅
Cheese ✅

[tidal obsidian]

cheese but better

[golden pond]

Cheese but Cheese

[tidal obsidian]

cheese but cheesier

[ripe osprey]

btw does golden spur get the perfect prefix? i have a 10 second one which i think is the max but no prefix

[golden pond]

Yeah 10 seconds is the max, and also no prefix on it… theres prefixes for the other ones?

[tough remnant]

No, that's just an ice rod and magic quiver thing

[golden pond]

Oh huh

I guess it wouldn’t make sense to have a perfect Parrot

[tough remnant]

Fun fact, you can theoretically get an Ice Rod with perfect stats but not "Perfect" name

[ripe osprey]

😔

i have a perfect ice rod too

[tough remnant]

1/2000 chance for each stat to be perfect, and then 95% chance to not roll "Perfect" name

[golden pond]

Oh wow

[tough remnant]

Works out to roughly 1-in-4.2-million

[grave violet]

Is it just me or 3.1/2.9 is better than 5/3

For ice rod

[golden pond]

1.5 content

[grave violet]

1.2 iirc

[golden pond]

Oh farther back

[vague knot]

Woooops, I started in 1.5, but never saw this, so was a bit unsure :3 Ill put it in seasoned :33333

[golden pond]

Its also because you didnt put a Wicked Statue in your hut. The Statue stops the witch from painting all your slimes

[tough remnant]

A lot better? Fires ~60% more often, and freezes almost as long

[vague knot]

Thank you! I had one of those just for decor bc i didnt know what it was for 🥹 ill put it inside instead 🥹

[tough remnant]

I will say I don't remember black slimes having glowing eyes

[grave violet]

It just says on the wiki max is 5/3

[tough remnant]

Where?

[grave violet]

Trinkets section

[tidal axle]

isnt max 4/3

[grave violet]

Oh yeah may have misremembered

[woven tusk]

Wasn't it that the max is "freezes longer than its own recast timer"

[tough remnant]

It's 3-5 seconds shot cooldown, and 2-4 seconds freeze duration

[grave violet]

Can cooldown ever be less than duration

[tough remnant]

Yes

[tidal axle]

a perfect ice rod id 3 seconds shot cooldown with 4 seconds freeze duration

[woven tusk]

Literally just said that

[grave violet]

Ohh ok

[tidal axle]

so yes

you can permastun any enemy in the gsme like this

i would know it has screwed me over more than id like to admit (funny tho ill give it that)

[grave violet]

Thought it was the other way around

[ripe pebble]

idk guys i think i learned a few things about foraging (i need mastery)

[tidal axle]

nothing helps more in the caverns than like a three mummy pileup

[boreal cobalt]

my fishing collection shows another fish after the sea jelly, but it's not shown on the collection page on the wiki, where is it from?

[ripe osprey]

AAAAHHH

[tidal axle]

guys i think they know a few things about foraging

[tough remnant]

But yeah, actual process for it is that it rolls a random millisecond value between 3000 and 5000 for cooldown, then another between 2000 and 4000 for duration, and then has a 5%, chance to just set them both to perfect and rename itself regardless of those results

[tidal axle]

check the wiki page for goby

[[Goby]]

[formal gorge]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Goby

[tough remnant]

Goby, in waterfalls

[boreal cobalt]

oh thank you, it seems easy enough to catch

[brittle peak]

There's bound to be a few dino eggs in there

[tough remnant]

Just thought, you know what would be a good additional source of forage XP?

Watching Living on the Land

[ripe osprey]

pretty shit luck

[ripe osprey]

genius idea tbh

[brittle peak]

That's really good!

[tidal axle]

probably picking berries now that that gives foraging exp

[boreal cobalt]

also, is getting married a requirement to achieve perfection? i don't like the idea of a spouse

[tidal axle]

but uh. hardwood stumps are where its at

[tough remnant]

I was suggesting an additional possible source

[brittle peak]

Really! Now that I know that imma watch it every Monday

[tough remnant]

You can invite Krobus to room with you instead

[tidal axle]

you might be interested in krobus

[boreal cobalt]

i mean i do want to stay alone

[tough remnant]

It's not, I was suggesting something that might make for an interesting change

[gray oriole]

Buy waivers

[tough remnant]

If you live by yourself, you miss out on a stardrop

[tidal axle]

there's always divorce!!

[gray oriole]

I hate that stardrop being locked behind a roommate/spouse tbh

[tough remnant]

You could get the Stardrop then boot the spouse/roommate out

[boreal cobalt]

i'd feel so bad kicking the spouse out

[gray oriole]

That feels slimy

I just never get the stardrop instead lmao

[robust spoke]

Man just wants to be single

[tough remnant]

I just pick my spouse based on home decor preferences

And treat them as furniture

And also dove factory

Winter outfits threw a bit of a spanner into that though

Because my usual pick for best home decor is Penny, and her winter outfit sucks

[woven tusk]

...a "flower vase," as the Chinese idiom goes

[tough remnant]

Haley got the best winter outfit, but her room is C tier at best unless you're doing a full on beach theme

[brittle peak]

What is your favorite farm since 1.6 dropped? And why?

[woven tusk]

Enter a marriage of convenience with a co-op player who joins exactly long enough to have the wedding and then never shows up ever again after the Stardrop shows up

[brittle peak]

Mine is Riverland because you start out with a ||fish smoker||

[tough remnant]

Bonus points for that is you can also get a maxed out cabjn while they're around lol

[robust spoke]

Just do the same thing with a spouse

Ignore your wife

That’s what I do

[tough remnant]

I wonder what spouse adds the most usable tiles to your house actually

[chilly bloom]

Leah or krobus probably

At least from my recollection, those two are rather empty

[tough remnant]

Yeah

Looks like Krobus

[lethal sequoia]

So I got farming as my first mastery, what do y'all recommend I get next?

[tough remnant]

Krobus is either 4 or 6 occupied tiles depending on whether some rubble is actually blocking or not

Leah is 7 occupied tiles

[woven tusk]

Renovated cabin: the forbidden Super Shed

[tough remnant]

Looks like Penny is most suboptimal spouse for space maximisation

[gray oriole]

Whatever content u do the most probably

[woven tusk]

Have the Marriage-of-Convenience farmer move into a trailer cabin (how does a trailer have a cellar??????), divorce you, and marry Penny to move her into the trailer

[tough remnant]

I wonder what spouse offers the most annoying to obtain items as spouse gifts

Leah's gifts were pretty good in 1.5 since chantarelles and morels were annoying to get out of season before, but that's resolved now

[tidal obsidian]

ive seen a few of those floors and got no dino eggs lol my first one was from fishing one up

[neat olive]

Best feature of the magic quiver is that it narcs on crabs

[maiden fiber]

I really hated Alex’s and Elliott’s. Only 2 I couldn’t get to dance y1

[tidal axle]

personally i like how it knocks back nearby enemies basically giving you a knockback forcefield

[neat olive]

That too. It's amazing for the squids.

[tough remnant]

The stuff they give you, not other way around

[neat olive]

You're able to knock the squids back out of their aggro radius lmao

[tidal axle]

the way i see it its like. the opposite of the ice rod

it's more defensive than the ice rod too which is such a cool unintended side effect of knockback

[tidal axle]

that sounds hilarious actually

[neat olive]

Just had an idea... The WearMoreRings mod has a config for a bonus trinket slot. I should combine the two.

[tidal axle]

oh goodness 😭 that sounds funny

i hope it works

[maiden fiber]

Ohh I got a list but idk if anything changed 1.6

[tidal axle]

speaking of trinkets

[tough remnant]

I don't believe so

[tidal axle]

i hope ca adds more

they're pretty cool as of right now but id love to see more

and if not, maybe a mod? they're super cool after all

[tough remnant]

But 1.6 changed the relative availability of items, which changes the relative rarity of different spouse gifts

[maiden fiber]

Warp farm totems ⁉️

[tidal axle]

alex is still a bitch to give gifts to

[neat sail]

Not with meadowlands

He likes eggs so

And also field snacks

[tidal axle]

people say elliott is bad but he's like bearable compared to alex

[tidal axle]

we're looking at loved gifts specifically

[neat sail]

Elliot is at 2 hearts fall y2 😭

[neat sail]

Mm okay

[robust spoke]

Crab cakes aren’t hard to get

[tidal axle]

that's way later in the game though

[neat sail]

Duck feathers I give him

[robust spoke]

Just buy a couple hundred after the crab event

[tidal axle]

i can get a duck feather super easily in comparison

[dense yacht]

My pomegranates are growing. I could have Elliott again if I wanted, but I wasn’t all that impressed with him last time I married him

[gray oriole]

I hate that this is even a thing

[tidal axle]

the crab cake event?

[gray oriole]

Yeah

It encourages the player not to raise willy’s friendship

[tidal axle]

yeah it's an odd one

[gray oriole]

Wish it was repeatable or something

[neat sail]

not to raise it?

[gray oriole]

So you can postpone the event until you can afford to buy as many crab cakes as you want

[neat sail]

Ah

Does he only sell them for one day?

[drowsy steeple]

@tough remnant I gave up with the binomial thing

came up with this in js instead. it returns with the combination of all the chances of fish multiplied (e.g for a, b, c, d, you get a, b, c, d, ab, ac, ad, ... bcd, abcd) in an array. after that you can easily find fish chances just by addition and adding coefficients, which i'm going to do tomorrow

don't bother reading it

function recursiveMultiply(chanceArray) {
  let resultArray = [[chanceArray[0]]];
  for (i = 0; i < chanceArray.length - 1; i++) {
    let currentLength = resultArray.length;
    for (j = 0; j < currentLength; j++) {
      let tempArray = [];
      for (k = 0; k < resultArray[j].length + 1; k++) {
        if (resultArray[currentLength - j - 1][k]) {
          newValue = resultArray[currentLength - j - 1][k] * chanceArray[i + 1];
          tempArray.push(newValue);
        }
      }
      if (resultArray.length <= currentLength - j) {
        resultArray[currentLength - j] = [];
      }
      resultArray[currentLength - j] =
        resultArray[currentLength - j].concat(tempArray);
    }
    resultArray[0] = [];
    let tempArray2 = [];
    for (k = 0; k < resultArray.length; k++) {
      tempArray2.push(chanceArray[k]);
    }
    resultArray[0] = tempArray2;
  }
  return [[1]].concat(resultArray);
}

console.log(recursiveMultiply(chanceArray));```

[gray oriole]

4 days after willy’s heart event

Crab cakes are cheaper than espressos for that 1 spd and last the whole day

(As a comparison of how cost efficient it is to buy them from gus)

[maiden fiber]

Food and drink buffs can stack

[gray oriole]

I am aware

[maiden fiber]

Then why not both

[gray oriole]

I was comparing the cost ratio of paying money for 1 speed

My point is, its a very good deal

[maiden fiber]

Oh

[gray oriole]

Ppl will pay 750/900g for 1 speed for part of a day

[drowsy steeple]

who buys espresso anyway

just get them from the desert trader

[gray oriole]

This is 550g for 1 spd for a whole day

[harsh plover]

can a weapon have both an innate enchantment AND a combat enchantment at the same time?

[gray oriole]

Yes

[maiden fiber]

Mhm

[regal fulcrum]

Indeed

[maiden fiber]

They’re forged differently

[gray oriole]

You can stack forge, combat, innate onto a non-galaxy/infinity weapon

But if its a dragoontooth weapon u need to enchant it before forging it for whatever reason

[harsh plover]

huh

[maiden fiber]

It’s because enchant increases its level & it won’t be eligible for forge past a certain level

You need to do the dragontooth ones first then prismatic shard ones

[gray oriole]

The whatever reason was more about why it has such an arbitrary restriction and less about how it worked

[worldly lily]

1.6.4 released yet?

[neat sail]

I'm sorry

YOU LOSE 15K GOLD FOR PASSING OUT IN VOLCANO MINES?

[maiden fiber]

Not yet

[regal fulcrum]

Skill issue.

[tranquil igloo]

oh i thought it just was

its pretty neat

[neat sail]

It's not HUGE I've got 550k but jesus christ

[maiden fiber]

When today?

[tranquil igloo]

just now

[turbid cedar]

Just 5 min ago

[tranquil igloo]

https://www.stardewvalley.net/stardew-valley-1-6-4-full-patch-notes/

pretty pogged if you ask me

[gray oriole]

Passing out as in dying or timing out

[tranquil igloo]

the alternate mine levels is something ive been asking for for a long time

[neat sail]

What used to be the crafting for speed grow? It's now moss but you could craft it pre-1.6 too?

[neat sail]

Dying

[gray oriole]

Why would u ever do this

[tranquil igloo]

and napalm rings being safe is nice

[tranquil igloo]

aesthetic

[gray oriole]

Its 10% of your cash up to 15k

[tranquil igloo]

iirc it was clams

[neat sail]

Damn

[native rain]

Holy shit

[gray oriole]

Whats a fish frenzy

Hmm

[native rain]

Auto petters can now come in golden boxes

[gray oriole]

Time to find out

[copper violet]

i dont know if anyone else cares as much as i do but,, i love this

[native rain]

That’s insane

[tranquil igloo]

yea this is a great one

[vague knot]

Which big crops should I keep and make an area around? :3 Gna use winter on making the farm look nice :3

[gray oriole]

Wait this is huge damn

[tranquil igloo]

like bubbles but for a specific fish

[gray oriole]

Now i can avoid SC even more

[neat sail]

Added two inappropriate names to the list to exclude from the name generator.
Ugh I wonder what caused this

[gray oriole]

It was generating a slur by accident

[tranquil igloo]

swears in other languages

[neat sail]

Thank god

[neat sail]

Damn

[native rain]

I’m so glad I’ve been stockpiling mine

[gray oriole]

Yooo more mini shopping bins

[random flame]

have you guys received the update on steam?

[gray oriole]

RIP

No more pay2winning your way thru dmg

[tranquil igloo]

just crab pot, cheese, or salad

[native rain]

I have

[random flame]

gamer ty

[tranquil igloo]

gamer

[vapid wind]

can someone tell me what books I am missing ?

[tranquil igloo]

wiki should list them all by now?

[native rain]

Bait and bobber is one of them

[harsh plover]

"mapping cave systems" from the adventure guild and ol' slitherings

[wispy slate]

now how do I get the cutscene for raccoon? I already have them full chilren

[tranquil igloo]

u get it even if uve maxed them already

[wispy slate]

how

[tranquil igloo]

walk into cindersnap forest

[vapid wind]

if its to tell me to check me the wiki

[wispy slate]

I did... its summer maybe thats why?

[vapid wind]

how do I get this one ?

[tranquil igloo]

sorry

[tranquil igloo]

summer shouldnt matter, are you sure you have all of them?

[harsh plover]

It's a generic book that just gives fishing XP, it doesn't show up in the wallet

[native rain]

Bookseller has it

[wispy slate]

yea, I have good neighbors

[vapid wind]

okay

[harsh plover]

So cute!!!

[native rain]

Oh wait you don’t have ol’ slitherings

[vapid wind]

i may have forgot about this one ngl

[native rain]

That’s also in the bookseller

[tranquil igloo]

hmm weird it worked for me when I went in there

[wispy slate]

ill sleep and try again, I just openened the game without clicking an update button :p

[harsh plover]

yeah the two books he's missing that are power related are ol' slitherings which is from the bookseller and mapping cave systems from adventurer's guild back room

[wispy slate]

but they have the golden box trade so idk

[vapid wind]

oooh gotchz ! thanks !

[tranquil igloo]

oh yea u have to update lul

[harsh plover]

There are other books but they are just stuff like "gives you xp in a certain skill" or "teaches you all the queen of sauce recipes that you don't know"

[tranquil igloo]

oh hmm

wait has anyone else seen the new cutscene yet?

[wispy slate]

slept and it did not work

[tranquil igloo]

thats ... not good

[sweet epoch]

anyone know what fish frenzies and 20 mine layouts are in 1.6.4

i don't get what it is

[tranquil igloo]

bubbles but last longer and they increase chance of specific fish

[wispy slate]

even closed and opened the game back up

[sweet epoch]

ty

[wispy slate]

every floor looks different right? thats a mine layout

[tranquil igloo]

no its a low chance of getting a new type of floor every time u enter one

[sweet epoch]

oh. so nothing that special

[tranquil igloo]

theyre special

you'll know when u see em

[sweet epoch]

are there new enemies

[tranquil igloo]

no

theyre just layouts

[sweet epoch]

cool

i wish the dev would just pay the modder to work on the game so he can release 1.7

[tranquil igloo]

its something ive been wanting for a long time, nice to see that its in

[tranquil igloo]

he has people helping him

[white dust]

This is a surprising amount of stuff for a minor patch

[tranquil igloo]

yea he cant stop adding stuff lul

[sweet epoch]

yea he's made millions off the game and can make millions more if modders work on it 24/7

[glass valley]

is this a clam? ive already picked up so many of them but idk what this actually is...

[wispy slate]

theres a fish cutscene on the beach with willy presumably introducing frenzies!!!

[wispy slate]

crab pot clam

[sweet epoch]

he only has to hire like 1-2 people and the game could get so miuch bigger

[tranquil igloo]

need to get from crab pot

[wispy slate]

wait nvm its bug meat cutscene

[tranquil igloo]

you underestimate

[wispy slate]

:p

[glass valley]

i see

[tranquil igloo]

yea there no new cutscene for frenzies

[harsh plover]

That is interesting...

[sweet epoch]

i read about a stardew valley expanded mod (haven't played it) all done by 1 guy

[tranquil igloo]

was very strong

[tranquil igloo]

sve is NOT one person lmao

[harsh plover]

yes it's a clam, you gotta pick it up from a crab pot for it to count as a caught fish

[brittle peak]

You need to get it from a crabpot

[glass valley]

ty guys

[sweet epoch]

how many people is it? @tranquil igloo

[tranquil igloo]

donno, but ive talked with a few people who contributed so i know its more than just 1

[quasi sequoia]

more like other sources were too weak

[sweet epoch]

Oh

[harsh plover]

||– Golden mystery boxes now have a small chance to yield an auto petter.||

[wispy slate]

noice

[sweet epoch]

that's the best update

[harsh plover]

[sweet epoch]

in 100h i only got 1 auto petter

[harsh plover]

ohmygosh

– Napalm rings are now non-destructive on the farm and inside the slime hutch (i.e. the explosion will only damage monsters).

FINALLY

[sweet epoch]

what's a napalm ring

[neat sail]

Omg yes

[harsh plover]

The one that blows everything up around you when you slay a monster

It's good for the mines but terrible if you forget to take it off on the farm

[sweet epoch]

oh it's an actual ring lol

[desert rampart]

Let's fuckin goo new update yeah babyyy

[gray oriole]

anyone know if targetted sturgeon bait makes the lake better money than the ocean in summer

[wispy slate]

how do I get the raccoon cutscene help its updated I think its just that im in summer

[brittle peak]

Guess I won't be using life elixirs anymore

Only restore energy

[desert rampart]

I never liked them

One of my opinions don't know if it is accepted as I never liked the elixir of life or the energy tonic

[brittle peak]

Wait I read it wrong it only restores health and the energy tonics restore only energy

[pine barn]

I'm in fall year 4 and still haven't found a single auto petter

[brittle peak]

So nvm

[pine barn]

it's getting very annoying

[gray oriole]

well now u have an alternative

[desert rampart]

I never liked the auto petter

[tranquil igloo]

and you can trade up regular lootboxes to golden

[brittle peak]

Why? It saves time

[tranquil igloo]

you can also trade up goldens to rock candy

[quasi sequoia]

auto petter works weaker anyways

[brittle peak]

And keeps your animals happy

[desert rampart]

I liked manually doing it

[pine barn]

just means theres one less chore to do in the morning

[brittle peak]

Fr

Especially if you get it early game