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[gray oriole]

afterwards depends on what skills u use the most ig

[grave violet]

Foraging seems useless

[gray oriole]

foraging is always a safe bet if you have no particular preference, otherwise whatever skills you use most

foraging's the most universally useful after farming

[wooden oyster]

Fishing and foraging are the two most important after farming IMO.

[forest saddle]

the fishing one is amazing for the legends fish

[grave violet]

Isn’t foraging just mystic syrup and totem

[wooden oyster]

Just for access to golden mystery boxes and golden fishing chests.

[gray oriole]

treasure totems and mystic trees are big QoL and golden mystery boxes apply to everything

[gray oriole]

both of which are a big deal

[regal fulcrum]

As well as simply the Challenge Bait accessibility.

[grave violet]

Is challenge bait hoarding an issue?

[gray oriole]

mystic trees are a very good endgame moneymaker that's usable off-farm and treasure totems let you bypass artifact rng to an extent

[golden pond]

Depends on the need, generally people go for Farming or Mining first because of the Iridum Scythe and the big furnace

Foraging is OP because Treasure totems can help with a lot of things and Mystic trees can rack up a lot if money

Fishing is there if you like fishing

Combat is there if you plan on making a lot of trips to the skull cavern but generally the last one people get

[gray oriole]

it's pretty annoying when you're in y3 and still don't have the dwarven translation guide

or want meowmere but can't get the ancient doll

[grave violet]

Try tilling in the mines

[gray oriole]

or are missing a singular artifact that has easily farmable method

[golden pond]

Use a treasure totem in the mines

[gray oriole]

???

[grave violet]

Is mystic syrup farming tedious to set up (like ancient fruit?)

[golden pond]

No? Its the same as regular tree farms

[gray oriole]

plant tree, wait for tree to grow, put tapper on tree

harvest every 4 days or whenever you need money

[grave violet]

How do i get more seeds though

[gray oriole]

craft them

[hasty lark]

How many children does this racoon have before you complete it?

[gray oriole]

8

[golden pond]

WHAT

[hasty lark]

My guy is BUSY lmao

[gray oriole]

the mystic tree seed recipe can be a bit annoying yeah

[golden pond]

I thought it was only 4

[gray oriole]

I might be misremembering?

lemme check

[grave violet]

Should I set up my tree empire early

[regal fulcrum]

It's definitely 5

[grave violet]

Or is it not worrying grinding for mastery

[golden pond]

Well if you’re a hoarder like me and you never sell or trash any of your tree seeds, you’ll have no problem with the recipe

[wooden oyster]

Depends on the size of the tree farm.

[golden pond]

Honestly, I didnt. I just focused on my regular goals and I eventually got them naturally

[gray oriole]

ok sorry i misremembered, there are 8 quests in total

[gray oriole]

farming is probably the biggest contributor of mastery xp for most people

unless u like doing deep SC runs in which case combat + mining will also contribute a lot

[grave violet]

I don’t have my ancient fruit empire yet

[gray oriole]

a big field of crops will get you like a quarter to half a mastery level per batch

[grave violet]

And I’m approaching winter 😭

[gray oriole]

there's always ginger island

[wooden oyster]

You need 100k XP for all 5 masteries. That’s 2,631 AF or 2,325 SF.

That’s not bad.

[grave violet]

I’ll probably unlock it mid winter

[golden pond]

You could also save up your pine tree seeds for powder melons, although you might want those for mystic trees idk

[wooden oyster]

Minus miscellaneous XP gains.

[regal fulcrum]

and even without AF. The next best is still available no matter what for GI: Starfruit

[wooden oyster]

Exactly.

2,325 SF.

[grave violet]

Alright so lemme get this straight

Farming
Foraging
Fishing
Mining
Combat?

[golden pond]

if thats what you want yeah

[gray oriole]

wait i forgot i buffed my mastery xp requirements oops

a single large harvest of crops is enough to get a mastery point for the first few

[wooden oyster]

That’s my personal order. But it’s pretty subjective. Again, golden mystery boxes and golden fishing chests are really useful and help you gain more exp too through books.

[golden pond]

I forgot te exact number but each mastery level is like 50k xp higher than the previous level right

[gray oriole]

after farming its entirely personal preference imo

[grave violet]

Alright thanks!

[gray oriole]

fishing mastery doesn't do u much good if you don't fish, for obvious reasons

[wooden oyster]

10, 15, 20, 25, 30.

[golden pond]

Oh I was one 0 off lmao

[deep latch]

That’s just over 3 weeks harvest of ancient fruit

Prolly is 3 weeks with greenhousbincluded

[wooden oyster]

Yeah. The way I play, 2 weeks.

[regal fulcrum]

As for me, it's 4 weeks with greenhouse included.

[deep latch]

Damn nice, you have a load on your normal farm as well as the island?

[wooden oyster]

Yeah. Usually 1500ish between greenhouse, farm, and island.

[deep latch]

Damnnnn nice

I stick to my 800 on the island and 100 in the greenhouse

[wooden oyster]

Oh nice, what do you do with your farm?

[deep latch]

For the most part I just make it look pretty. Have my obelisks clock couple of animal buildings and ten rest is mostly aesthetic

[wooden oyster]

I’ve been wanting to do this for the last couple files but then greed takes over.

I’m gonna force myself in 1.6 to change this habit.

[deep latch]

Looool

Waiting patiently for 1.6 on console

Gonna have to redesign my whole farm in line with being able to move the farmhouse

[wooden oyster]

Same. Driving me nuts.

[deep latch]

I find the couple million a week from the island is enough to satiate me

[wooden oyster]

So impatiently waiting. 😂

[deep latch]

Oh yea fr loooool

[neat sail]

Greenhouse fits 100?

[deep latch]

120

And like 18 trees

[wooden oyster]

I just rush perfection. That’s my problem. I get greedy and then I finish everything except QotS receipts by Summer. Then I sleep until winter and check TV on Sundays for recipes. Then done.

[deep latch]

Lmaooooo

[neat sail]

Goddamn it does NOT look like it fits that

Guess I have maybe 50 ancient fruit growing in there rn then, need to get them all on the same cycle once it's full

[midnight knoll]

120 crops is not a lot of space

[wooden oyster]

Lol it’s a problem. If I just recognize that I’m gonna get all the money I need super early, I can slow down the money making and focus on aesthetics.

[neat sail]

Nah but 120 ancient fruit a week is good

Maybe not for late-game but

[wooden oyster]

But now with the QotS book, things have changed.

[deep latch]

If you don’t process it’s only like 66k a week ):

[deep latch]

Gotta be checking that bookseller

[wooden oyster]

Im gonna abuse that shop. Poor guy.

[deep latch]

Gonna buy them out every time

‘What have I just bought? we’ll find out later’

[midnight knoll]

Bookseller should be a fall y1 thing atleast

Hes too overpowered for early game

[golden pond]

Me playing 1.5 would never believe me playing 1.6 if I told them that the last recipes I need are relationship recipes

[wooden oyster]

Summer Y1 for me, I think. After the first starfruit harvest on GI.

[wooden oyster]

Lol facts.

[calm bobcat]

me playing 1.5 would never believe my 1.6 play

[midnight knoll]

How are you completing the cc by summer year one 💀

[neat sail]

With or without uhh the thing that makes crop sell for more

[wooden oyster]

Oh joja. I know, I know.

[deep latch]

With

Wait no

Without

[drowsy steeple]

I hate y1 storms there's no way you can protect all your crops

[deep latch]

I can’t math

[deep latch]

Do the part of the vault bundle that gives you a lightning rod

[neat sail]

Real

[wooden oyster]

35 rods!

[midnight knoll]

I had 2 lightning rods by winter

[drowsy steeple]

I only have 18, how tf do you get that many

[neat sail]

Not even joking I have 20+ rods y2 and still got 2 crops struck I don't know how
The rods weren't even full

[drowsy steeple]

1 isn't that many

[neat sail]

I normally have 10+ rods for summer y1, I just craft a shitton

[deep latch]

Depends if you remeber to get your foraging xp

[wooden oyster]

My Springs are nuts lol. I restart so many days in Spring. Im not as good as these other peeps, so I have to restart a lot to get the outcomes I want.

[drowsy steeple]

yeah fr once other people get into the SC I just fall behind and behind

I suck at SC

[gray oriole]

I restart a lot because im a scatterbrain and forgot to do something important

[deep latch]

Game has no hard time gates, only soft ones. So can always take things at any pace you want

[gray oriole]

i'm not even trying to minmax, it's just really annoying taking the bus to the desert just to realize i forgot to bring bombs, or stairs, or food, or a weapon, or a pickaxe

[drowsy steeple]

the pace I want is maximum pace wdyd

[deep latch]

Staircases and bombs

[wooden oyster]

So I do SC too. Idk how they get what they get from SC. Mine is like half of that at best.

300 iridium ore in Spring without ladders? Psycho.

[wooden oyster]

Lmfao

[gray oriole]

no way no ladders were used

[drowsy steeple]

stones

[wooden oyster]

But you only have so many Jade.

[drowsy steeple]

back to the stone age

[gray oriole]

its possible to walk in without no ladders and get pretty deep but a ladder would've been used at some point with the stones mined to skip infested floors

those eat so much time that doing them's a great way to kill a run

[wooden oyster]

Ahhhh. You know, I never once thought to do that.

[drowsy steeple]

I always have enough staircases for infested and spiral floors

[wooden oyster]

Makes sense now.

[drowsy steeple]

but slightly less annoying ones I can't afford

like the vertical mummy floor that's annoying

[wooden oyster]

I haven’t converted stone to ladders since pre-desert trader years ago. I forget that’s an option.

[deep latch]

Lmfao felt that

[drowsy steeple]

2 of my starfruits died but at least i can craft 17 iridium sprinklers now

[midnight knoll]

What kind of psycho puts their tools and weapons away

[jovial dune]

halle-friggin-lujah I finally got a prismo in fall year 2 from a quarry mystic node, of all things T^T

[wooden oyster]

🔥

[jovial dune]

this playthrough has NOT wanted to give me one

[deep latch]

When I do sc I wipe everything not needed from my inventory. Tools like axe and hoe included

[drowsy steeple]

I don't care how minmax the run can be but I never put away my weapon or pickaxe no matter what

[jovial dune]

same

[short silo]

If anyone's interested in the Max Waivers challenge run, Trash Catalogue (for stopping debris spreading) can only drop after 50 garbage cans have been checked.

[midnight knoll]

What

[arctic crest]

I always put any tool I'm not using for the day away in my dump chest.
If I'm running around a lot and don't have the museum done, then I always have my hoe

[mellow atlas]

put away everything when going fishing

at least in early game when inventory space is limited

[midnight knoll]

I got the special order for killing 50 bats pre-desert while clint was upgrading my pickaxe (i was doing a challenge run where i needed the money)

[short silo]

What are you saying what about

[vagrant sigil]

wow robin, ain't that cool

[jovial dune]

that rocks

[wooden oyster]

Even then though, you often need it. Whether to upgrade it, or to relocate fishing spots. Like from beach to lake to river. Depending on your min max strat.

[hidden ore]

and even put a chest by your frequent fishing areas so you can offload stuff into it

[mellow atlas]

put chests everywhere tbh

[midnight knoll]

Thats just kinda a random subject

[jovial dune]

it's just generally handy info

[wooden oyster]

In some cases, yeah. But even with Zumiel’s min max strat, he uses his pickaxe to move the chest from day 2 by the beach to by the river on day 3.

[short silo]

some people were discussing it in this channel earlier, and just wanted to put the message so that if anyone in the future is looking for info, they'd see it

[midnight knoll]

Oh, ok

[drowsy steeple]

you can click on it repeatedly

[hidden ore]

er what do you mean about keeping debris from spreading? only item I knew about that prevents debris is the golden clock, and I guess fences keep debris from crossing between areas...

[wooden oyster]

Yeah true. That’s a lot of time though lol.

[drowsy steeple]

5 minutes a day isn't that much tbh

[neat sail]

Once forgot to bring my sword, pick, and my +1 luck food to the desert

[jovial dune]

glad to not have to empty a hand to move a chest, now that we can do it with tools

[drowsy steeple]

less time than haboo takes snagging into walls

[wooden oyster]

Wait, you’re saying to push it while running right?

[short silo]

The challenge requires you to avoid levelling up. If you destroy debris manually, you gain exp, and if you use bombs, the rocks still give exp. A source of infinite 'free' furniture can be used to place furniture all over the farm, and stop debris from spreading in the spots that the furniture is placed on.

[drowsy steeple]

no, pick an empty hotbar and click the chest repeatedly

it'll drop

[wooden oyster]

If that’s a thing I’m gonna be pissed.

[hidden ore]

ah, I came into the middle of the conversation I see, and was missing a pile of context. thanks for the explanation!

[short silo]

np

[drowsy steeple]

🤷‍♂️

[wooden oyster]

I can’t be that stupid lol.

[jovial dune]

it's not very intuitive

[drowsy steeple]

it's not immediately apparent

[wooden oyster]

When you say click on it, wdym exactly? Like open it?

[drowsy steeple]

left click

with an empty tool

[wooden oyster]

For console, how does that translate? Any chance you know?

[drowsy steeple]

umm X i guess

[jovial dune]

whatever swings your weapon, I'd imagine

[wooden oyster]

I’ll try it next time im in-game. Im actually mad at myself.

[gray oriole]

to be fair its not explained anywhere that punching things is an option

[jovial dune]

^

[drowsy steeple]

I guess "minecrafting" can be a verb

[wooden oyster]

If I could’ve put away my pickaxe this whole time, that’s one extra spot for so much crap the first few days. Lol

[midnight knoll]

Is that also possible on mobile

[drowsy steeple]

not sure, mobile is more different than console is to pc

[jovial dune]

I only play PC, so I have no idea on either, but on PC it's the button that swings your weapon, and picks stuff up in inventory, etc

might wanna check the googs

[drowsy steeple]

@wooden oyster make sure the chest is empty as well

[wooden oyster]

Right yeah. When I pickaxe, it has to be. But without needing to pickaxe, that 12th slot is crucial.

[viral tide]

i got the living haat durin gthe green rain

[nocturne timber]

what's she waffling on about?

[nocturne timber]

ooooh

[jovial dune]

lol

[gray oriole]

lmao

[formal thicket]

helppp what are those items

[gray oriole]

presumably dialogue doesn't check for location, just time, and assumes the npc arrived at their intended location on time

[gray oriole]

smoked fish, moss, mystic sap, raisins, pickled mushrooms, dehydrated fruit, something

idr the last one anymore sorry

[formal thicket]

tysm!

[hybrid mica]

dried mushroom

[vagrant sigil]

i was recently inspired by a server member here showing their pets, so i decided to name her rabbit

[hidden ore]

that's going to be one very confused ostrich

[ancient ocean]

Is there any glitch to get into elliots house without friendship? Apparently key to the down does not work

[hidden ore]

the theory is that elliot's place and leah's are technically outside of town...

[ancient ocean]

Its his birthday and its raining, and I got no friendship somehow lmao

[vernal shale]

i named my pig bacon

[vagrant sigil]

it's okay, he'll never see a rabbit opens barn and coop doors at the same time slowly

[vagrant sigil]

iconic

[nimble turtle]

i named my pigs pot roast and BBQ ribs and brisket

[hidden ore]

and he stays home int he rain, right. ugh. I got no bright ideas, sorry about that

[nimble turtle]

sometimes he goes to the saloon

[deep latch]

On of my saves my pigs are all just numbered 1-24. On another 3 barns of pigs are cow1-12,sheep1-12 and goat1-12

In other words, names are a lot of effort

[neat sail]

I just randomise names, but I always keep them to the same first letter (whichever the first randomisation gets me)
I have 1 farm with "z", one with "w", and my current one has "s"

[nimble turtle]

nice

normally my family helps me name them

[deep latch]

That’s actually so cute. Omw to grab my younger sister

[tribal gorge]

early onset of dementia

rip

[open basin]

All my chickens are named after cheese
And my cows will be named after egg based food

Omelette and Brie are friends for sure

[nocturne timber]

ptsd and dementia power couple, hopefully vincent grows to be responsible because yoba knows Sam ain't gonna be enough to take care of them

[tribal gorge]

Sam is gonna put the metal to the pedal and get out to zuzu

[nocturne timber]

joja themed nursery home it is then!

[wooden oyster]

Whenever CA finishes up with HC, I bet he takes a long break and then comes to SDV with a zuzu city update.

[tribal gorge]

so vincent is doomed

he's the next shane

[nocturne timber]

gets drunk once he realizes he stands no chance with penny

[tribal gorge]

by the time he's old enough penny's gonna be in her 40s

or late 30s

also you probably dont want pam as your mother in law

[vagrant sigil]

oh my god what am i reading 😭

[tribal gorge]

live fanfic writing

[vagrant sigil]

pam as your mother in law would be nudging you to buy drinks every visit

[nocturne timber]

nah trust me when you get to year 40 he is still not old enough

[tribal gorge]

you know those fictional situations where people dont age

and lose their minds

zuzu doesnt exist, they're stuck in stardew

for eternity

[nova flame]

which one should i get in mastery? mining, combat, or foraging? i already got fishing and farming

[tribal gorge]

if you do skull caverns often then mining or combat

[vagrant sigil]

the one with the dwarf statue is good tbh

[nova flame]

thank

[vagrant sigil]

I think it was mining right

[nocturne timber]

POG

[nova flame]

so, how does one get trinkets

[gray oriole]

Kill stuff

[nocturne timber]

that 999 challenge guy has to do this like... 1997 more times

[tribal gorge]

crates or killing mobs

[nova flame]

aight

[nocturne timber]

after unlocking combat mastery just kill stuff

[gray oriole]

That man is not gonna have a good time when he finds out about panning legends

[nova flame]

panning with poxial moment

[nocturne timber]

YOU CAN PAN LEGENDS WITHOUT THEM BEING ADDED TO YOUR COLLECTION?!?!

[vagrant sigil]

p panning legends?

you can pan the LEGEND????

[gray oriole]

Fisher enchant works on legendary fish yes

[harsh bone]

is it actually worth aging wine at all? seems to take absurdly long

[nocturne timber]

Well isn't he already locked out of it?

[vagrant sigil]

WHAT THE HELL FBFNFBN

[gray oriole]

Its meh

[vagrant sigil]

i think only starfruit at gold quality is good

[nova flame]

i need to test that when i get the extended family quest

[nocturne timber]

you can still make more wines while the ones you are aging are doing their own thing

[gray oriole]

If you need money now to upgrade your income generation, its not worth waiting half a year for it imo

[nocturne timber]

but nah I usually don't bother

[tough remnant]

They're excluded from the challenge due to the "no missable items" rule

[nova flame]

personally, i only age cheese

[tribal gorge]

if you have a massive forest of mystic trees with heavy tappers and completed raccoon story line, you can trade in the syrup for the fairy dust

[nova flame]

since it only takes a week to get from gold to iridium

[woven tusk]

Calico and Ginger Island can be visited
There is evidence of Gotoro (Kent and the Traveling Merchant have been there)
The farmer and multiple villagers are from Zuzu, and you can visit there in a heart event
Some guy in the Trout Derby says he's from Grampleton, wherever that is

[gray oriole]

And honestly by the time i have excess wine to age money ceases to be relevant anyway

[harsh bone]

is there an easy way to set up a reminder for when theyre ready? i use pilot kegs outside my sheds to be able to see when theyre ready but u cant rly do that with casks

[nova flame]

oh also, speaking of the racoon story line. how many kids does he get before the quest finishes?

[gray oriole]

Mods

4 or 5 apparently?

[tribal gorge]

there are dinosaurs on another continent

[harsh bone]

oh good idea

[nova flame]

in this economy? /j

[nocturne timber]

oh good good

[harsh bone]

arent u better off just selling the syrup tho

[nocturne timber]

8 or 7 kids I think

[tough remnant]

It increases your yearly income, yes. Is it worth the effort? Could you be better off dedicating your cellar to something else? Those are both subjective questions that depend very much on you

[harsh bone]

the aging time seems absurdly long for the amount of value it adds

[tribal gorge]

for starfruit wine

[gray oriole]

Fairy dust on gold wine to make it iridium is a net profit

[harsh bone]

like kegs triple the value in 7 days but casks can only double in 8 times that duration

[woven tusk]

Actually now that smoked fish count as artisan goods, I don't need my artisan item to be wine or cheese in the autumn fair

[gray oriole]

Normal to silver to gold is a loss though

[tough remnant]

No it isn't

[tribal gorge]

does it only age by 1 degree with fairy dust?

[woven tusk]

...And waiting around for the wine to reach gold is also an opportunity cost

[harsh bone]

wait it only advances it 1 step? not just age it to completion?

[nova flame]

so 8 total requests before the achievement

gods

[tough remnant]

Basically, with a "standard" 125 cask layout, filling your casks is the equivalent of producing 250 extra wines per year

[gray oriole]

How

[woven tusk]

I think it does?

[nova flame]

it does

[tribal gorge]

yikes

[nova flame]

cause it's already broken enough

[tribal gorge]

nvm then

[gray oriole]

Wait which message are you replying to

[tough remnant]

Oh didn't realise that was talking about fairy dust lol

[nova flame]

giga freak

[woven tusk]

Okay but this was about spending mystic syrup (worth 4digit gold) to accelerate--

Yeah

[gray oriole]

Yeah

[tribal gorge]

fairy dust is useless.

[tough remnant]

It seemed like it started with asking about value of using casks at all?

[midnight knoll]

Ok, this is gonna sound fake but i promise it isnt. I keep seeing elliot move really fast over 1 tile out of the corner of my eye

[woven tusk]

The bit about it being a loss to use dust for normal to silver to gold

[nova flame]

if going gold to iridium then it's p helpful

[woven tusk]

He thinks the Cursed Mannequins are fashionable and is learning their moves in the hopes of impressing Leah

[tribal gorge]

well yeah but its only 575g profit

[tough remnant]

Anyway, fairy dust is a utility item IMO. You happen to really want a jar of pickles right now for some reason (idk, item collecting), you crack out the fairy dust to make it instant

[nova flame]

i personally don't really age wine. I only go for aging cheese

speaking of cheese, i need to get a second barn to get more cows and goats

[tough remnant]

Goats are pretty awful for income

[tribal gorge]

fun fact, no fairies were harmed in the process

[woven tusk]

Or hurrying it along for the raccoons I guess

[gray oriole]

Use it for quests i guess

[nocturne timber]

NUH UH

[harsh bone]

kinda sucks how u can only use casks in the cellar

[nocturne timber]

tru

[tough remnant]

Unfortunately, unlike actual fairies, fairy dust cannot grow crops

[outer night]

Shame

[nova flame]

logically speaking though, it makes sense

[tribal gorge]

so its counterfeit fairy dust

lab made

SHOCKING, Mr Qi is supplying raccoons with fake fairy dust

[nova flame]

oh gods

[tough remnant]

Synthetic Fairy Dust, only speeds up processed goods

[woven tusk]

This would still revolutionize a lot of technology

[nova flame]

until joja monopolizes it /lh

[woven tusk]

Yeeeaaaah probably

[tribal gorge]

I think joja already made some better variants of dust

[tough remnant]

Then again, maybe there are just 3 types of fairy - crop fairy, healing fairy, and machine fairy

[tribal gorge]

machine fairy does sound kinda metal

a fairy with a railgun

[woven tusk]

They'd probably use it for something really stupid like hastening cryptocurrency mining

[tough remnant]

Highly refined Joja dust is probably why Fizz looks the way he does

[woven tusk]

Something something Machine Spirit
Blah blah Omnissiah

[tribal gorge]

sniffing them dust lines

makes sense

so, if i understand correctly, mr qi gives fizz fairy dust drugs to ingest, in return he has to tempt the farmer with perfection progression notes signed by mr qi himself

[tough remnant]

Sad you can't put fairy boxes in fish tanks like frog eggs lol

[tribal gorge]

this is so high quality LORE ladies and gentlemen

and non binary fairies

[drowsy steeple]

if that's a thing then there's already quantum computers

digitalized banking cannot exist in sdv

[tribal gorge]

yeah but

Lewis has some real dark secrets

WHERE is he getting those millions to pay for my produce?

[woven tusk]

Skipping over the magitek aesthetic and magitek weaponry, right into the cyperpunk dystopia

[woven tusk]

He literally tells you on the first day he sells them to buyers

[drowsy steeple]

we talked about it the other day, he takes his truck through a nightmare maneuver to export your stuff

[tribal gorge]

at 3x the cost probably, how many golden statues does he need god damnit

[woven tusk]

The question is why you need the artifact catalog for him to sell them for higher prices

[tough remnant]

Pierre is a god tier distributer

[woven tusk]

Gold is cheap tbh

[drowsy steeple]

because otherwise he gets scammed

[tribal gorge]

no, YOU get scammed

[drowsy steeple]

he sets the prices

[modest cobalt]

WHY DID SOME GREEN CREATURE COME OUT FROM UNDER AN IRIDIUM ROCK That WAS scarARYy

[drowsy steeple]

and he doesn't know any better

[tribal gorge]

exactly

[drowsy steeple]

no it's like how cave systems book doesn't buff you it buffs marlon

[tribal gorge]

he knows its worth and sets it lower

[tough remnant]

"Hey Lewis, we're getting scammed on the artifacts, I've started including certificates of authenticity with them all now so collectors will pay more"

[drowsy steeple]

artifact catalogue buffs lewis not you

[tribal gorge]

Lewis: welp, my work here is done
Farmer: but you didnt do anything
Lewis: did I?

[tough remnant]

It means you're able to actually tell Marlon where the fuck you dropped your gear, which saves him having to scour the whole system himself

So you don't have to pay for as much of his time

[tribal gorge]

Linus finding me at level 119 of mines

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[drowsy steeple]

marlon goes after you're saved though

[tough remnant]

I like to imagine that it's the shadow people doing it

[woven tusk]

Found it

[tough remnant]

"Okay, the tresspassing idiot is unconscious, let's go dump him near the entrance again"

[drowsy steeple]

that's the one

[tribal gorge]

genius design

and what a durable truck

can i have one miracle truck please

[drowsy steeple]

durability doesn't matter if you have a god tier driver like lewis is

[tough remnant]

Lewis earned his gold statue lol

[drowsy steeple]

he doesn't hit anything. everything stays intact

[tribal gorge]

even more, nobody ever sees him driving it either

[tough remnant]

You should see the manoeuvres needed to escape town in the first place lol

[hoary dagger]

I'm rank one stardew valley

[tough remnant]

Of course, he does it all at 4am

[drowsy steeple]

jump to here

[tribal gorge]

absolute legend, what time does he go to bed

to wake up at 4am

drive all the produce to wherever he takes it

[drowsy steeple]

6 hours is plenty of sleep, even more so if you're a developer

[tribal gorge]

gets the gold back, puts the gold into my pocket

all of that within 2 hours

[nocturne timber]

bruh the legend 2 is just NOT having it this time around

[tribal gorge]

and goes back to snoozing

[drowsy steeple]

planting all these starfruits is way more intense than SC

[tough remnant]

Yeah, he sleeps twice a day for a few hours rather than one long sleep

The biphasic sleep schedule

[drowsy steeple]

I've tried biphasic it messes me up

[tribal gorge]

does waking up and staying awake for 10minutes and going back to sleep count as biphasic sleep

[nocturne timber]

I AM GONNA RAGE I MISSED 3 LEGENDS 2 TODAY AND HAVE GOT A NET GAIN OF -1 LEGENDS 2 TODAY

[drowsy steeple]

no?

[tribal gorge]

because usually i feel more tired after getting the rest of the sleep after those 10mins

[nocturne timber]

this is the angriest I have gotten at a video game in like a year

[tribal gorge]

interesting way to say loss
negative gain

[nocturne timber]

last time I got the quest I managed to get 7 legends in like a single day and only 1 got away

[woven tusk]

Oh my gods I know how and why Lewis can casually make those ridiculous maneuvers in his truck every single day

He's Luigi, he's had years of practice making implausible automobile maneuvers in Mario Kart

[drowsy steeple]

implausible automobile maneuvers is gonna be the title of my next song

[tribal gorge]

wont be surprised he made junimokart as well

[tough remnant]

He has the high score

[tribal gorge]

for which he shall burn in hell together with developers of journey of praire king

[tough remnant]

Before the farmer takes it

[woven tusk]

Some mf gives him road rage at 3AM and it takes ALL HIS WILLPOWER not to grab a banana from your shipment crate to retaliate

[drowsy steeple]

implausible automobile maneuvers is also ordered descending in terms of the number of letters, 11 10 9

[woven tusk]

Let's see him powerslide and earn a miniturbo in that pickup truck

[tribal gorge]

is just a countdown before he utilizes his ultimate skill

the rapture

[drowsy steeple]

extrapolating, his ultimate skill would be "a"

[tough remnant]

(Not kidding BTW, Lewis is actually canonically the best townsperson at Junimo Kart)

[tribal gorge]

last thing everyone would say before being vaporized by godpower

[drowsy steeple]

i mean he's canonically the best driver in town

[worthy fossil]

has anyone been to the desert festival yet? i did willys finish thing and he said i got 25 calico eggs but i dont have them

[open basin]

Considering that Pam is his competitor...

[tough remnant]

I'm curious about the Joja Mart truck driver route TBH

[drowsy steeple]

oh here we go again

[tribal gorge]

maybe he's behind Pam's alcohol addiction

[tough remnant]

/theatre guy's car

[open basin]

perhaps

[drowsy steeple]

can't even escape his wooden prison

[open basin]

lol

[tribal gorge]

would make sense if lewis built that fence

[tough remnant]

Perhaps it's a semitrailer, rather than a box truck?

And we just have shit perspective?

[tribal gorge]

and broke the bus so that Pam doesnt have anything to drive

[drowsy steeple]

there are three bridges, two look like this

[tribal gorge]

the lewis conspiracy

[tough remnant]

Yup

[drowsy steeple]

let's not talk about this one

[open basin]

Lewis would say "The town has no money"

[tough remnant]

But yeah, Joja delivery driver is god tier

[tribal gorge]

there can only be one

[lavish rapids]

Well does pierre make his own supply or also get deliveries then

[tribal gorge]

i mean lewis does look like luigi

[open basin]

Lewis verse

[drowsy steeple]

let's just say going down here is a non-option, and it's an a priori that the bridge fits otherwise he's going nowhere

[flat sedge]

'Weegi!

[tribal gorge]

Lewiigi

[woven tusk]

He won't marry Marnie because that means meeting the Old Mariner for a mermaid pendant

According to the library, the Old Mariner is rumored to be a ghost

Luigi is terrified of ghosts

[open basin]

Shit ass excuse /lh

Make the farmer buy one

Everyone makes us do everything in this damn town anyway

[tribal gorge]

good theory but i think he just doesnt want to be married because if they're married she will have more control over him

[drowsy steeple]

going down would be the best option, there's not enough space to make the turn on pierre's

[tribal gorge]

because if they divorce she'll be getting a slice of the golden pie

[drowsy steeple]

then it's the same route lewis takes

[flat sedge]

not like he contributes to the town anyway, stupid old man

[woven tusk]

This doesn't work. The farmer gives him the pendant and then he's engaged to the farmer

[tribal gorge]

god forbid this union

[open basin]

Then the ring shop is married to everyone they sell wedding rings to

[mental cradle]

how do i get a 2nd pet? i already got the bowl

[tough remnant]

But this would require you to give Lewis the mermaid pendant at some stage. That's proposing to him.

Old Mariner can only get away with it because he's dead, so the "til death do us part" thing is already over and done with

[open basin]

That would mean that the ring bearer in a marriage is now married to the groom

As it's also a tradition to have someone else bring the rings

[tough remnant]

Not in SDV it isn't

[elfin sapphire]

i took 1 look at this and thought it was one of the bugs 😭💀

[drowsy steeple]

sdv doesn't follow european marriage customs lol

[dusk silo]

I feel like he won't marry Marnie, because I look better in his underwear, especially now that I've added a golden trim

[open basin]

Not talking about SV, it's an example 💀

Thought it was obvious

Marnie just deserves someone better

[tribal gorge]

no, no, we're just cooking

[tough remnant]

I am talking SDV though

[open basin]

Good for you I guess- It was literally just an example lmao

[tough remnant]

You literally cannot give the mermaid pendant to someone without proposing

[drowsy steeple]

just like dobby

[open basin]

Perhaps sell it then

[drowsy steeple]

you can't give them socks without freeing them

[open basin]

Or better: Make Marnie have someone else

[tribal gorge]

how old is marnie anyway

[tough remnant]

Yes

[open basin]

Probably in her 40s ? but it's just a guess

[tribal gorge]

if shes in her 40s she looks way too good on the portrait art

[open basin]

We can't know for sure 🤷‍♂️

[tribal gorge]

but character sprite makes sense

[open basin]

And yea I think most adults are in their 40s

[tough remnant]

Good with makeup maybe?

[drowsy steeple]

you may be surprised as to how good some people in their 40s look

[open basin]

Fr

She looks 40 to me, Robin as well

[drowsy steeple]

also how do you hand down marriage pendants

[tribal gorge]

robin does NOT look 40

[drowsy steeple]

do you like "accidentally" drop it

[open basin]

If you think ....?

[drowsy steeple]

some people in their 40s can look like robin tho

[open basin]

My family members who are in their 40s look like her ,_,
It's just that it's a pixelated game and they'd obviously not put so many details

They just... don't look so fucking old, they're just adults 🤷‍♂️

[tribal gorge]

im not saying she's not 40

im saying she doesnt look 40

[drowsy steeple]

what's the difference if we're judging how old people are based on their looks?

[open basin]

I just judge based on some small logic-

[tribal gorge]

if shes not around 40 then she gave birth to sebastian while being a minor

which is 🚩

[open basin]

Like, Robin had 2 marriages, Sebastian then met and married Demetrius, then had Maru with him and Maru is a bachelor so she's at least 18

Which means that it's a real red flag if she's not at least in her late 30s(not that shes a red flag, just the situation)

[tribal gorge]

Demetrius doesnt look 40 either

[open basin]

He could be younger than her, we don't rlly know his background as much as we know hers

[tribal gorge]

WELL

cant be MUCH younger

[drowsy steeple]

i mean 18 is not universally the age of consent

[tribal gorge]

because, you know, 🚩

[open basin]

Then we'd go into laws of Pelican Town lol

Which is impossible 'cause we just uhh don't have that info-
So the best is to assume that their age of consent is 18~21

[elfin sapphire]

i presume 18 is for stardew though when we take into consideration federal US law 18 being legal adult, and CA being in the US

[open basin]

Agreed

[tribal gorge]

that would still make Demetrius at minimum 37

[open basin]

I've always imagined that most bachelors are 20+ and some being on their late 20s

There's a secret note for that iirc

Harvey, Shane and Elliot I think? are the oldest bachelors

[open basin]

We don't really know for sure tho 🤷‍♂️

[elfin sapphire]

my personal headcanon/opinion is the youngest marriage candidate being 19-20

[tribal gorge]

Maru is at least 18, and if she was born 9 months after he got together with Robin when he was 18

[open basin]

Maru NEEDS to be at least 18 or the farmer should be in jail

[tribal gorge]

so would robin

[open basin]

Oh fr, agreed
There are some who look younger

[woven tusk]

I'm looking at its constitution and all it says is

"Farmers are forbidden from feeding my shorts to the Governor."

Wow rude

[open basin]

Robin can't- romance the farmer? I don't understand your sentence-

[open basin]

LOL I have no doubts

[drowsy steeple]

towns have constitutions? what is this, danzig?

[tribal gorge]

if demetrius was underage when they got together and if robin was legally an adult then she did an oopsie

[elfin sapphire]

i think maru/abigail/alex/sam are in the 19-21 range

[open basin]

Yea that's why I don't think that's what happened lol
He's just older than that

[tribal gorge]

well then why would you say that then

[elfin sapphire]

alex especially seems like he literally just graduated HS and was quarterback but didnt get scouted

[open basin]

Because CA didn't put the exact years they met and got together bruv? LMAO

[tribal gorge]

but you're leaving a possibility that its possible, then

[elfin sapphire]

pre sure none of the vanilla npcs even have last names either. its just 1 of those things

[drowsy steeple]

how are we discussing ages when a year is only around 100 days long

[elfin sapphire]

and the fact that no one ages (pun intended)

[open basin]

Well I simply don't think that CA would make a character be a literal p@??

[drowsy steeple]

mullner

[open basin]

Why the actual fuck would he put that in- I would never think of a possibility that that was the case, like literally ever 💀

[elfin sapphire]

yeah every single marriage candidate is of legal age

[open basin]

Wait fr 🤣
He's JUST Demetrius

[elfin sapphire]

everyone

[tribal gorge]

well, then you can make a reasonable, educated guess that he would be 36-37 at minimum, why doubt that "we dont really know for sure"

[dusk silo]

Abigail's mom has it going on

[elfin sapphire]

i didnt rly pay that much mind until i played ridgeside and realized pre much everyone in the mod has last names

[open basin]

We just assume that CA wouldn't put a p@ in his game

Why would anyone-

[drowsy steeple]

pretty much none of us here grew up with last names being a thing and later on we realized it's only the case for this country

[elfin sapphire]

ya im a lil wigged out at that even being a thought…

[open basin]

I never realized it until you just said it 🤣

[neat sail]

Why are we talking about age of consent in a sdv server

[elfin sapphire]

idk

[open basin]

I'm trying to figure that out too

[drowsy steeple]

some of us has mononyms and they had to put their names twice in passports so other countries don't get confused

[open basin]

Like, it's not a big thing 😭

[elfin sapphire]

anyways new update pretty grass y/n?

[elfin sapphire]

oH I THOUGHT U WERE TALKING ABT AN IN GAME THING IM SORRY I DIDNT MEAN 2 LAUGH/MAKE FUN OF U 😭

[drowsy steeple]

lol it's ok

[open basin]

I've never met someone with a mononym I think /lh

Now that I think about it

[drowsy steeple]

they're pretty rare all things considered

[elfin sapphire]

if i have then i wouldnt know

[open basin]

Fair enough

[tribal gorge]

it started here so

[drowsy steeple]

guilty as charged

[open basin]

lol

It's a pretty simple topic that escalated into very unnecessary "possibilities" so um

What are your guys objectives atm?

[drowsy steeple]

CA's worldbulding --- and pretty much every good worldbuilding --- is designed to make us have discussions like this

[open basin]

I'm thinking if I should unlock the ginger island trader or unlock the farm obelisk

[gray oriole]

Farm obelisk?

[elfin sapphire]

trader

[neat sail]

Go to ginger island! Just unlocked it

[gray oriole]

Wait what farm obelisk

[open basin]

I just don't think I'd like a character to be the P word, is all
Not about the whole debate

[drowsy steeple]

foraging lv 10 before fall didn't seem very possible now

[tribal gorge]

No, its just that "we cant know for sure" in response to "he has to be at least 36 or its bad" that rubs me the wrong way, cause it just seems that you're having doubts

[open basin]

Apparently you can unlock a teleporter in ginger island that goes to your house

I don't really remember it, but if wiki says, me do

[gray oriole]

Do you mean the parrot transport

[drowsy steeple]

no it's an obelisk

[open basin]

Can't remember

[open basin]

Doubts of what dude-

[drowsy steeple]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Farm_Obelisk

[open basin]

My "we can't know for sure" was just about an exact age 💀

It's not that deep

[tribal gorge]

of that

[open basin]

Every time the wiki is slow to load I get scared of 503 lol

[drowsy steeple]

the age of consent should be 65 considering that that's the same age as 18 irl counting the same number of days

[tribal gorge]

weird thing to reply to 37 or older

wasnt asking for an exact age?...

[open basin]

I don't think you understand

Not even the calendar of Pelican Town is like ours, so an exact NUMBER is unreal

We can't know an exact number because we don't know the exact number of what heppened in their lives-

It's really not that deep

Oh

[tribal gorge]

that makes even less sense because we didnt even talk about it

[open basin]

What 😭

[woven tusk]

The Lewigi Lore still goes deeper at least

[open basin]

Jeez dude.

[woven tusk]

He's the one with the family recipe for Spaghetti, which he'll mail you.
Because of course he'd have a family recipe for pasta. Luigi is Italian

[open basin]

I didn't remember it was so cute

[open basin]

Needs to be canon fr

[woven tusk]

And another man in the valley knows the same recipe. A plump man who is also mustachioed, and who demonstrates a heroic disposition to Linus and, during the first Green Rain, to the whole town.

[elfin sapphire]

the what

[tribal gorge]

The basic assumption is that age is equivalent to real life age, regardless of how many days in a year there is. Its not like we're putting people from earth on mars and expect them to age slower.

[open basin]

Luigi and Lewis are actually the same person

[elfin sapphire]

elaborate

[woven tusk]

There is a lot of evidence

[drowsy steeple]

they do age slower in terms of mars years

[open basin]

My god, it's not even about that 💀

[tribal gorge]

only from numerical point of view because of how much longer the days on mars are

[tribal gorge]

???

[drowsy steeple]

*years, but fair point

[open basin]

It's very very simple, we don't know how old Robin and Demetrius was when they met or when they married, no exact number
For nothing

So it's very simple, ok

[woven tusk]

Green shirt under overalls
Flat cap
Tidy mustache
Small chin, big nose

The name

Is terrified of ghosts (so he won't talk to the Old Mariner, rumored to be one, to get the Mermaid Pendant for Marnie)

Can pull off implausible automobile maneuvers due to years of practice in Mario Kart. Is the high score holder in Junimo Kart

[open basin]

We just don't know if they're exactly 37~38, that's why I said we can't know for sure

Like, it's so- simple.

[gray oriole]

Do u think pierre is aware of his wife’s cheating

[tribal gorge]

they would have to be 18 at least, and because their kids are 18 at least that puts them at minimum at age 36
there is no "we dont know for sure", its "we know for sure they cant be younger than that"

[open basin]

I literally just said we can't know of how old exactly they are because CA didn't put exact years for their background

jesus

[elfin sapphire]

where is the fear of ghosts evidence

[open basin]

I really don't think you're understanding bro

[woven tusk]

Luigi is terrified of ghosts and the Old Mariner is said to be one in the library

[open basin]

We don't even know if they're 18 exactly or if they're older
I'm not thinking if they're younger 💀

[pseudo rune]

You guys are weird

[tribal gorge]

do you know what "at least" means

[woven tusk]

Lewis won't marry Marnie. The mayoral authority may well be an excuse because he doesn't wanna face a ghost

[open basin]

I never said he could be younger, I just said we can't know for sure that i's exactly 36, like - why are we even talking about this

[open basin]

Ffs dude

By god

[drowsy steeple]

is lewis afraid of the old mariner or he just has no goddamn clue where to find a mermaid pendant

[gray oriole]

You two should just move on

[open basin]

I'm trying to but he just comes back

Like. why bro

[drowsy steeple]

I don't think lewis even goes to the beach during rains

[tribal gorge]

dude, you're telling me to 'understand' yet i havent even said 'exactly 36/37' even once

[pseudo rune]

It's like you are saying the same things, but refusing to understand each other and just.. get more and mroe intense about it XD

[open basin]

Why 💀

[woven tusk]

Also I don't know if you're aware but Luigi has an entire flagship series about him being afraid of ghosts

[tribal gorge]

because you reply to my point with yours?

[open basin]

Dude

[gray oriole]

It really doesnt matter and its not going anywhere

[tribal gorge]

am i not allowed to respond?

[elfin sapphire]

counter: his "shorts" are a ghost though, and he asks for them back

[open basin]

Like, exactly-

[gray oriole]

At this point you’re just arguing over who gets the last word in

[elfin sapphire]

i know luigi im asking abt him = lewis

[open basin]

I don't think what I said is hard to understand, but if he can't then It's 100% better to just drop it 💀

[pseudo rune]

I feel like this isnt the hill to die on, someone might as well just say "Oh lol ye you're right TEEHEE!" and get it over with xD

[open basin]

I tried to move on talking about other stuff but nah lol

[gray oriole]

Anyway

[woven tusk]

Counter-counter:
He has unlimited shorts in his basement but asks you to return it to him because he doesn't wanna go down and fight another haunted one to get a replacement

[pseudo rune]

And trust me, I have "died" on many hills for no reason. It's fun as you die, but.. Not after (lol)

[gray oriole]

Do u think lewis worships whatever is in his basement

[elfin sapphire]

[open basin]

So. I'll try this again, for the second time:

What was the latest objective you guys achieved in your save now?

I got to ginger island ☝️🤓

[pseudo rune]

Same for me

[drowsy steeple]

with that mad driving skillz he could've bought another one

and don't tell me he doesn't have the money

[elfin sapphire]

i havent proper started a 1.6 farm yet, been between a big modded save & a 1.5 in y2 perfection attempt.. will prob update it to 1.6 (deffo before i get perfection i aint fast LMAO) but waiting on the updates for the aesthetic/UI mods i have

[elfin sapphire]

he spent all the money on a solid gold statue

[open basin]

Fair enough

I had to wait a bit for my visual mods to update too, but since I don't use many, it was a short waiting time

[drowsy steeple]

that'd be a display of very poor financial skills for an authoritarian mayor

[elfin sapphire]

with my perfection save tho i just unlocked ginger island, working on grinding the cinder shards. the wiki is a bit difficult to use tho now cuz idk enough to separate the new 1.6 things 😭

[elfin sapphire]

oh it was the towns taxes dw

[open basin]

Meanwhile Penny doesn't even have books on her not-school

[tribal gorge]

okay I guess if someone has a different opinion and im trying to explain why their wording doesnt make sense then im "not understanding" when they read "at least/minimum" as "exactly". Anyway, it wasnt anything serious, but just the 'whatever dude' attitude set me off. guess we can end it at that.

[elfin sapphire]

she did but they were old and torn up

[woven tusk]

I mean some of God's worshippers fear him

[open basin]

Iirc she did because of Haley

Lewis prefered the gold statue

[elfin sapphire]

yeah haleys 14 heart gets them brand new 1s (love my wife)

[open basin]

our wife

[drowsy steeple]

if tiktok exists would haley make one

[elfin sapphire]

[elfin sapphire]

what was the soonest you married her

w/o cheats

[open basin]

Umm winter first year, but I wasn't focusing

[white trail]

🙂

[open basin]

I stopped gifting so much after fall because of CC, Ginger Island and SC

[elfin sapphire]

HA i married end of y1 summer. i grinded for my gal

[open basin]

What about irl years

[elfin sapphire]

i got dead lucky, coconut from merchant right before her bday, danced w/ her flower dance

[open basin]

When did you start marrying her

[white trail]

Ive been leah gf for years but i dunno dont want to marry anyone yet

[elfin sapphire]

i havent even been playing the game for a whole year but have 600ish hrs

[open basin]

Oh c'mon that's not fair
I danced with her but was more focused on CC and stuff

[white trail]

dayum

[open basin]

WAIT, can we create a Haley% speedrun cheatless? LOL

[elfin sapphire]

haleys the only 1 ive ever married unmodded. when i first started playing i didnt originally consider her but when i read thru her heart scenes i was like omg the development

[open basin]

Same !!

[elfin sapphire]

yeah i was multitasking. not full min-max but haley was a top priority

[open basin]

I started with Penny actually, but it lasted only a year, then got to Haley

[elfin sapphire]

dating by end of spring, married by end of summer. i also finished the CC literally the day after winter star y1

[open basin]

Haley wasn't my top priority... I admit my sin : (

[pseudo rune]

This sounds so horrible if you dont know you write about a character from a game

[open basin]

LOL

[elfin sapphire]

yo...twins...? my original plan was gna be penny but that was my savior complex

[open basin]

I waited by her bedroom door for 1:30h to gift her a flower

Am I creepy? I don't think so.

[open basin]

LOL perhaps

[elfin sapphire]

thats such a waste of game time tho u coulda fished outside her house

[regal fulcrum]

FISH!

[open basin]

Although I wanted Penny at first because of, yea, savior complex, but also 'cause I think the farmer needed a mommy someone to care for them

[elfin sapphire]

does anything significant change w/ haley in 1.6

[open basin]

Apparently just the winter fit and portrait ?

Have you played that Haley mod btw? the one that adds more events and stuff?

[pseudo rune]

Imagine liking someone irl and looking up online what they like and love, and memorizing their schedule just to be able to speak to them

[open basin]

I was very interested but when I got to playing it ✨ 1.6 ✨

[elfin sapphire]

i think i have? is it a stand alone or SVE

[open basin]

I think it's standalone

[open basin]

I think it-girl haley would love that

[elfin sapphire]

..........people do this tbh 💀

[open basin]

"Omg my fan!"

But "I just sent my skirts to charity" Haley wouldn't bet /j

[woven tusk]

Low-hearts Haley thinks the farmer is gross tho

[elfin sapphire]

besides toxic dangerous "stans" for celebs, ppl will look up someones socials. theres "stories" of dat shit

[open basin]

Good for her ❤️

[open basin]

https://tenor.com/view/damiosanrus-gif-7871968960718044394

[elfin sapphire]

ya cuz shes completely unfamiliar w/ the lifestyle, shes been pretty sheltered/closed off

she isnt actually shallow or else she wouldnt have such an extreme development arc imo

[open basin]

Yea, surely not

[woven tusk]

The farmer also may very well have been digging through the trash moments earlier, especially at the start of the game.

Or in your case has a trash lid on their head right this momebt

[brisk turret]

jesus man these are CRAZY

[open basin]

I don't think any of her character archetypes are really shallow unless specifically written to be-
The fashion blonde girl archetype yk?

[woven tusk]

The game's limitations really choke the arc like that. Could really use like three or four more scenes between 2 and 8 to round it out

The sad thing is that the most disposable scene (the pickle jar) is the one with her hecking theme song in it

[open basin]

The pickle scene is so... 💀

I feel like I'm Alex

I can't elaborate.

[elfin sapphire]

🧍‍♀️ my hat (in the haley marriage perfection save) is the copper pan to save an inventory slot............

[open basin]

LOL I cannot

I can only imagine her face

[elfin sapphire]

yeh she looks like she'd be that stereotype, but thats cuz we dont know her yet

[woven tusk]

I can. You feel like this.

[elfin sapphire]

MOOD THO

[mellow atlas]

iridium pan looks much better than copper one thankfully

[open basin]

Yea, she starts off with that, then develops ✨

[elfin sapphire]

i wont be updating save to 1.6 prob for a hot bit cuz of the mods i use

[pseudo rune]

She is such a b-word to you in the beginning, she says "ew" when you talk to her at one point, wtf. She IS the stereotype, as well as looking it ;_;

[open basin]

Um, well

[elfin sapphire]

have u not spoken to shane yet

[open basin]

Yea XD

Shane is so much worse...

[pseudo rune]

What? So cause he also is a b-word, she can't also? xD

[open basin]

They were both annoying, he was just more annoying in my opinion

[pseudo rune]

Doesn't matter, both are garbage to STRANGERS. Same people who treat wait-staff poorly

[open basin]

But I can't really have any word in that debate, I liked it when she was mean

[woven tusk]

While it shouldn't be a competition, I feel like low-hearts Haley might actually try to make it one?

[open basin]

I am unnable to contribute ☝️🤓

[elfin sapphire]

nah more like, so many ppl argue haley sucks cuz shes mean to u, but the overlap of the same ppl defending shane is like 💀 🧍

[open basin]

Yeea

[pseudo rune]

Well I don't discriminate cause of genders. If one gender gets a pass, the other one gets as well. It's not okay for anyone to be that shitty imo xD

[elfin sapphire]

oh ya theres no passes 4 being shitty

[open basin]

I think that's kind of the issue sometimes, I do remember seeing ppl being more forgiving with Shane but they're both terrible at the start

[pseudo rune]

I've always hated Shane the most XD but never befriended any of them

[buoyant tendon]

hear me out imagine . what if the cc gave you the statue of blessings, and the recipe given from farming mastery was a recipe for qi seasoning (except grandpas seasoning)
…and instead of golden animal crackers, you get … hm, something else. but animal crackers would be from a level 10 ranching skill? so incompatible with artisan ig…

[elfin sapphire]

haley is deffo rude but imo its cuz ur a deadass stranger and she doesnt care 2 connect (yet, until the farmer makes moves). shane is a depressed alcoholic which is also understandable for rudeness, but the dif with them is how long it takes for shane to stop having rude dialogue vs haley

[buoyant tendon]

im too obsessed thinkin about a remix of how to obtain recipes and powers

i still… havent quite befriended haley in my 500 hours

always just go for her sister

[elfin sapphire]

sunflowers, coconuts, daffodils

esp the 3rd one for spring y1

if ur lucky enough with silver/gold daffodils its possible to dance with her y1

[open basin]

Same tbh XD

[buoyant tendon]

ive seen so :p

[open basin]

But I grew to be very fond of him with time

[midnight knoll]

I always befriend george first

[buoyant tendon]

i wish you could befriend people without them very clearly falling in love w/ u

[elfin sapphire]

true

[buoyant tendon]

like i just wanna get to know leah without being involved in her romantic life this time around

or abigail without her saying “really wish i went on cool adventures or lived on a farm or”

[pseudo rune]

I wish Gus wanted to even look my way, if even for a bit..

Nah I'm just kidding

[buoyant tendon]

like dam does everyone in town just wanna live on my farm

[elfin sapphire]

i hate that ppl stop hanging out w/ their friends just cuz we've become friends. tbh even after dating/marriage, why yall not hang out? i aint asked u to, ik u aint gonna cheat its not in your code

[brisk turret]

Chat new glitched dropped, if you animation cancel right on time with casting your line this happens (32 bits version)

if you pick something up you get stuck too lol

[elfin sapphire]

moonwalking

[open basin]

I'm not even gonna talk about Robin

[elfin sapphire]

its a ✨ feature ✨

[buoyant tendon]

and also yeah like, i always feel like im stealing someone from their friends or family or… their clearly designated partner that theyll never ask out

[open basin]

I remember there's this woman in Stardew expanded??? that she looks older but I can't remember her name

[brisk turret]

i'm free

[buoyant tendon]

like leah and elliott, harvey and maru,

[open basin]

She's my healing process to forget Robin

[pseudo rune]

I always felt like that in the Harvest Moon games where everyone had their partner in case you didnt pick them before year 2 or something. Like.. Why would I be better than them? :'c Childhood crisis

[buoyant tendon]

shane may have the ugly room but at least he has no besties to steal, and only jas to leave

[elfin sapphire]

olivia

[open basin]

Sometimes I like it

[buoyant tendon]

i mean yeah ill steal emily from clint gladly

[open basin]

For me it's a bit ?? than Penny and Sam are the designated couple, but it's opinion

[pseudo rune]

I thought Leah and Elliot were brother and sister, lol

[elfin sapphire]

shes the only parent in the valley u can date 💀 and her son

with SVE

[open basin]

So I gladly steal her from Sam lol

[open basin]

NICE.

[woven tusk]

I didn't find out until yesterday that he only goes to the saloon to see Leah.

[open basin]

I really wanna play SVE for a while and that's just SO FUNNY

[elfin sapphire]

yeah i hate that they stop hanging out cuz their platonic friendship is so cute

[buoyant tendon]

everyone has their year 1 flower dance partner and they feel very deliberately meant to be two sides of the same archetype of character

[open basin]

"Hey Jake(Idk his name), hows your mom?"

[elfin sapphire]

do it!! its updated pretty consistently with 1.6 since the mod creator even worked w/ CA on the update

[open basin]

hE WHAT

[buoyant tendon]

oh fr?

[open basin]

I didn't know?? that's so cool ??!

[elfin sapphire]

YA

on the graphics pretty sure

[buoyant tendon]

wonder if thats why we got crop scythe harvest-

[open basin]

DaMN

[elfin sapphire]

but its very clear to me when i look at the waterfalls n stuff

[woven tusk]

Except Emily and Shane, since they were only added in due to a popularity poll

[elfin sapphire]

its got the SVE vibes

[buoyant tendon]

ive only married emily, shane, and leah

in that order

gonna do emily again i think for the vibes, but also tempted to go for abigail

but then i break up the band !

[open basin]

I've married Penny, Abigail, then Emily when she came out as a bachelorette, then Haley and I've been with her for more than... 4 years I guess?

[elfin sapphire]

im glad that shanes blue chickens arent locked behind marriage cuz while i would marry him for them, i'd feel too bad to divorce that i'd jst be stuck in an unhappy marriage 💀

[buoyant tendon]

god lmao imagine

[open basin]

I'd hate that so much 😭 I love love the blue chickens

[buoyant tendon]

penny has those beautiful decor from her 14 heart…

[elfin sapphire]

in my modded save tho its played with an OC/rpg mentality so..not going after haley... but i still love her

[open basin]

Oh that's so brave...

I'm not strong enough to not go after Haley

[buoyant tendon]

i try and go for different vibes in diff farms cus im very indecisive but also like. cant help but have some common factors and things be the same all the time

[elfin sapphire]

im going after ||jio, the male elf ninja in RSV||

[open basin]

Same, sometimes it's hard to diverge

[elfin sapphire]

RSV spoiler

[white ridge]

I like krobus

[buoyant tendon]

well actually i honestly find that picking farm type and marriage makes me Very indecisive and like. panicked tbh

[buoyant tendon]

the only correct take tbh

[open basin]

Which is honestly the reason why I haven't tried SVE
I know a lot about vanilla SV and rarely get confused... but in SVE it's confused all around and I feel like I'd be anxious

[buoyant tendon]

wait sve changes things around instead of just expanding??

[elfin sapphire]

oh god, yall will crucify me for this.................... on my modded farm i dont make any alcohol 💀 ancient fruit & starfruit j..j-..jelly 😭

[buoyant tendon]

i really would love to play the game with things shifted around…

[open basin]

I assume it does change the order of some stuff

Like, there are things you have a sense of that you won't have with SVE

[buoyant tendon]

professions mayhaps??

really not a fan of the vanilla farming profession routes lol

[elfin sapphire]

yeah it adds new areas and changes around preexisting, but you can choose for some changes to revert to vanilla

[buoyant tendon]

or the fishing routes

[elfin sapphire]

SVE doesnt change professions u'd have to get a dif mod

[open basin]

That's nice

[buoyant tendon]

bwaa i jus want animal cracker type behaviour to be a farming level 10 thing..

maybe cooked meals selling for more as the other level 10 ranching option

[elfin sapphire]

eh that'd be better in a cooking skill. idk if the cooking skill mod has anything abt that tho

[buoyant tendon]

and qi seasoning from farmin mastery !!

[elfin sapphire]

ohh that'd b interesting

something similar tho cuz qi seasoning.. OP af

[buoyant tendon]

i want to discuss how id change a lot of things from 1.5 and 1.6 but i feel bad because i love the updates n dont wanna bring down the good vibes or be too critical

[elfin sapphire]

maybe a book that gives u a boost in selling cooked items?

[open basin]

Unrelated but a while ago I have realized that there is even a mod that turns Haley into a centaur, but no mod that keeps her sassy personality after 8 hearts

[buoyant tendon]

grandpas seasoning, a less magical version

if the maypal seerup bear was addedi n 1.6 it would give you a berry book wouldnt it?

i gotta be real they overused books

[elfin sapphire]

as long as u aint talking bad about the current stuff or spamming CA with demands etc, i dont see any issue in being like "god i would love if this was in game" cuz, thats just normal gamer stuff

[buoyant tendon]

dwarvish safety manual coulda been an interesting thing from combat mastery

or mining mastery

prob mining

[elfin sapphire]

i think the books make sense considering the mastery stuff, since XP grind is already a pain when around lvl 7 etc

[buoyant tendon]

well the xp books are nice

its just stuff like… why is alleyway buffet a buff i get from a secret trash can?

[elfin sapphire]

dont u get XP when you read a book uve already read before regardless of what book it is?

[maiden fiber]

Yes

[buoyant tendon]

and not linus teaching me it?

fair enough yeah

[elfin sapphire]

alleyway buffet.. buff?

[buoyant tendon]

the books being used as like, a way to get boosts to xp once youve already obtained the power is kinda pretty smart

gives them a double use

[elfin sapphire]

yee

[maiden fiber]

Triple use. They can be traded also

[elfin sapphire]

oh what

[maiden fiber]

Yup to bookseller

[elfin sapphire]

like sold?

[midnight knoll]

And gifted to penny

[elfin sapphire]

yoo??

[midnight knoll]

No, you get items back

[maiden fiber]

Abigail likes monster compendium too

[maiden fiber]

No certain books trade for certain items. Example monster compendium = 2 monster musks iirc

[elfin sapphire]

god imagine if gunther was freed in 1.6 and we could gift him books

[elfin sapphire]

ohhhhh thats rly cool

[maiden fiber]

‘tis

[gentle otter]

is the. truffle crab a new thing or.

[buoyant tendon]

okay youre convincing me books are a good design decision . thank you. it was almost peeving me because i didnt quite understand em

[buoyant tendon]

yea lul

[gentle otter]

ive never been so confused i was half convinced it was an insane bug

[buoyant tendon]

oh but while im going on about what if scenarios on swapping up the game…
hoppers and solar panels. hoppers from a special order and solar panels from qi

[elfin sapphire]

happy i helped 😄

[buoyant tendon]

love the positivity here

[elfin sapphire]

ohhhh... solar panels from qi would be interesting

[midnight knoll]

I wish hoppers took things either out or in, but not both as in you can pick for each hopper

[elfin sapphire]

it does both??

[midnight knoll]

No, i said i wish

[elfin sapphire]

ohhh

[buoyant tendon]

a hopper upgrade from qi that does that, if hoppers were from special order, would be nice

[elfin sapphire]

i wish hoppers could do both for sure, end-game automate w/o mod

[buoyant tendon]

oh id also prob swap deluxe bait and quality bobber recipe obtainment, it feels like it makes a lotta sense

[elfin sapphire]

well not quite automate

[neat olive]

The mummies have become angry.

[elfin sapphire]

[midnight knoll]

Auto grabber + autopetter + hoppers would be insane

[buoyant tendon]

true yea just afk lmao

[grave violet]

Wtf is a truffle crab

[buoyant tendon]

god yknow whats funny . a thing i exprrienced in 1.6 early on?

maru spoiled me on frog eggs by telling me sebastian loves them

lmao

[midnight knoll]

Rock crab but on the farm, it replaces truffles

[grave violet]

How do you get it?

[buoyant tendon]

a lotta pigs, generally :p

qi would have a pet truffle crab, i think

[elfin sapphire]

do you get the truffle when u kill the crab at least

[gray oriole]

U get bonus truffles

And oil

[gray oriole]

I think he’d have a qi crab personally

[buoyant tendon]

real tbh yea

[remote ridge]

Does the tent kit work on Ginger Island?

[gray oriole]

Yes

[open basin]

She's ❤️ on Ginger Island

[gray oriole]

The game even gives u 3 free ones to use when u enter GI

[open basin]

That was very lovely

[remote ridge]

Ah so you no longer need to leg it back to your bed until you unlock the house on Ginger Island

[open basin]

Yea, unless you have something to do in the farm

I did have the animals to attend to so I had to leave after 2 or 3 days in the island

[boreal cobalt]

when's the raccon questline supposed to appear? random event post cc?

[remote ridge]

I mean

The Deluxe versions of the barn and coop auto-feed

[gray oriole]

Complete greenhouse, 10% chance per day

[remote ridge]

Yea

It can take some time

[boreal cobalt]

ah i see, just gotta wait

[open basin]

Tend to also means petting and getting the eggs and milk

[gray oriole]

Autograbber

[buoyant tendon]

petting

[open basin]

I don't have the auto grabber and auto pet yet
I didn't want to buy it yet

[buoyant tendon]

autopetters r rare

[open basin]

Yea, exactly

And I'm fine without the auto grabber for now on

[remote ridge]

Also I assume I can get rid of the crib once both my kids are toddlers

[dusk silo]

So this new farm map. It doesn't have anywhere you can place a Jumino Hut effectively

[buoyant tendon]

it does iirc? some p good spots anyway

near top left

[elfin sapphire]

autograbber is great QoL when u can afford it

[open basin]

True

I'm just lazy as shit 😭

[dusk silo]

Yeah? But you lose a lot of spots

[woven tusk]

Not just QoL, it's mildly balance-changing.
I can just pet the cows instead of having to chase them with the pail. Saves a lot of time

[open basin]

I'd say like bottom left

[gray oriole]

Isnt not using an autograbber the opposite of lazy

[open basin]

Yea

I don't make a lot of sense

I don't wanna go to Marnie's hous

[dusk silo]

Same, everywhere around the bottom left there isn't a single spot that you don't lose spaces to grass/water

[gray oriole]

Im reasonably sure thats intentional

[open basin]

Yea, I'd use that sapce for grass anyway tbh 🤷‍♂️

[dusk silo]

Likely. Because it is a map thats supposed to be built for ranching - not farming