archived-update-spoilers

[hidden ore]

wh I use mine almost never on this save, so I moved them out to the walls and have other devices in the center which I actually use sometimes (looms, cheese/mayo machines, etc)

[harsh trellis]

I put machines near the gh

[mellow atlas]

i used to think casks kinda just worked and i had placed some in a shed

what happened next will disappoint you!

[hidden ore]

I like to mostly not have devices out and visible, except things like solar panels and such

[harsh trellis]

True its only temporary

[mellow atlas]

you can fill up the desert with solar panels and never worry about batteries ever again in your life

[harsh trellis]

As soon as i get 2 3 more sheds ill have smelters processors and crystalariums in em

Or kegs

[harsh trellis]

Desert festival exists now so....

[hidden ore]

my crystalaria and furnaces are in a shed, it's only the smaller groups of food processing machines that are in the cellar

[mellow atlas]

so? it uses a different map, it doesn't break the panels

[hidden ore]

it's on a different map, you won't have access to your stuff during the festival but it will be back afterwards

[mellow atlas]

it just gives you 3 days of downtime

[tough remnant]

This is roughly the ideal form for a large scale mystic syrup/purple mushroom combo farm

Hmm, maybe need to scale that up lol, discord does not like very small images lol

[hidden ore]

maybe but it's so tiny we (or at least I) can't see what it is...

[mellow atlas]

can you please scale that png up

[harsh trellis]

Wait i didnt know that

[mellow atlas]

same goes for all festivals btw

including the squidfest and trout thingy

[harsh trellis]

I thought it breaks stuff at festivals

[hidden ore]

it's why your crab pots go missing during whichever winter festival it is

[harsh trellis]

Like...for squid fest for example

[tough remnant]

Okay, actually visible in Discord version

[mellow atlas]

it doesn't break anything

yay

o that looks very optimized

[tough remnant]

Obviously, blue = mystic tree, brown = mushroom log

Yeah, that's optimal scaling pattern

The edges are lower efficiency by necessity

[mellow atlas]

is it worth building a mushroom farm like that >.>

[tough remnant]

So the larger the farm is, the closer to optimal it gets

[hidden ore]

if you want to do bulk processing for profit, sure

[harsh trellis]

Is it worth making money? Yes

[mellow atlas]

that depends, do you wanna be a big shot?

[harsh trellis]

The zaza man

[mellow atlas]

I'm just wondering if it's actually profitable for all the space it takes up

[tough remnant]

Yes very

Particularly since it can go entirely off-farm

[mellow atlas]

insanely so

is it expensive materials wise?

[tough remnant]

Extremely

[mellow atlas]

very

[harsh trellis]

Hell yeah

Acorns and mahog seeds are hard to get

[mellow atlas]

muhsroom logs are what, moss and something else?

i'd say the millions it gets ya are worth the investment

[hidden ore]

you can start small and scale it out, use the profits from each round to help with materials for the rest (some materials though are a matter of time)

[mellow atlas]

moss and hardwood.
ten of each.

[tough remnant]

It's basically the idealised form of the mystic syrup/mushroom farm, if you had no space and resource constraints

[tough remnant]

Hardwood is fine, just deconstruct cork bobbers from Willy

[mellow atlas]

what about moss

[harsh trellis]

Where would you even put that farm btw

[tough remnant]

Cry

[mellow atlas]

I haven't used mystic trees yet, I just got to level 5 mastery and I did foraging last

[tough remnant]

Now that's the question lol, ideally somewhere on GI

[harsh trellis]

Hmmmmmm

[mellow atlas]

mainly because I wasn't sure if those materials were gonna be extremely difficult

[harsh trellis]

The bottom area below the farm?

[tough remnant]

Honestly could put it on the farm

[harsh trellis]

Where the seashell or muscles whatever they are called spawns?

Thats alot of free real estate

[tough remnant]

Particularly if you fill gaps with Ancient Fruit

[mellow atlas]

i wanna fill my farm with insane ammounts of AF because it's easier than making a mushroom farm thing

[tough remnant]

Now that is an extraordinarily valid point lol

This is such a dumb concept

Particularly if you wanna do the rain totem thing

I don't wanna farm I have to harvest every 2 days

[mellow atlas]

it's theoretically optimal and humanly possible but it takes so fucking long

[tough remnant]

Sure, it's the highest profit thing you can do on GI

[mellow atlas]

not worth the trouble

[harsh trellis]

There should be a way to buy/trade for mahog seeds

[tough remnant]

It's even highest profit-per-harvest

[mellow atlas]

is it better than diamond crystalariums

[tough remnant]

There is?

[harsh trellis]

Should be*

[tough remnant]

Yes actually

[gray oriole]

there is

[harsh trellis]

Heh?

[gray oriole]

trade stingrays at GI

[mellow atlas]

oh boy somebody tell @chilly bloom

[tough remnant]

Already have

He knows lol

We talked about this, it's hilarious

[harsh trellis]

O right

I dont have a lot of stingy bois but thats a start

[autumn cedar]

star shards are good for crystalarium iirc. and if you can collect them every day fire quartz are also worth more i think

[harsh trellis]

How many seeds for 1 stingy?

[mellow atlas]

whats a stingy

[harsh trellis]

Stingray

[mellow atlas]

what I wanna know is how do I get a lot of dragon teeth >.>

[harsh trellis]

Them lava dwellers

[tough remnant]

If you wanna do the full "limited by harvests per day" ultimate income farm, it's stupidly complicated now because unlike crystalariums, which can go basically anywhere, mystic trees can only be planted in some places, and depending on how many mystic trees you can happen to place nearby, mushroom logs may or may not be better than crystalariums

[tough remnant]

Also stingray ponds

[mellow atlas]

yea I'm working on that.

the materials are kinda annoying

[hidden ore]

luck buff, lucky days, burglar ring, target lava lurks and run through floors where there's no dragon skeleton looking for the floors that have them, repeat until done, it's a slow grind

[gray oriole]

bigass mystic tree farm, outer edges are crystalariums, inner edges are mushroom logs

[mellow atlas]

i gotta go now, have this silly art i found on tumblr
byeee

I just started spring so I haven't been able to jump to GI to retrieve the cinder shards I need

[harsh trellis]

Biee

[gray oriole]

think its 1:1 but targetted bait makes it a lot less annoying now

[tough remnant]

Question is how you make efficient routes through all the random weirdly shaped areas like Backwoods, while maximising use of mystic trees and mushroom logs

[harsh trellis]

Yep

[hidden ore]

I guess stingray ponds can give dragon teeth but at such a low drop rate it's hardly worth it

[mellow atlas]

I need to spend a lot more time in volcano dungeon but I want to make my valley farm a lot more efficient

[gray oriole]

i don't think backwoods is even large enough for mushroom logs to work

[tough remnant]

5%, plus golden crackers

[gray oriole]

you'd maybe get a single column of logs in the center of the path

[tough remnant]

Sure, but mystic trees alone are also still worth

[hidden ore]

and you have to invest dragons teeth to get it going in the first place

[tough remnant]

Mystic Trees with Heavy Tappers are just better than diamond crystalarium

[gray oriole]

sure yeah but mystic trees aren't that bad imo

the limits on where you can plant them are very strictly grid shaped

[harsh trellis]

At this point placing them at ur farm is best option

[tough remnant]

Not really, there's all kinds of weird places you can't put them

Because of stuff like grass edge tiles

[tough remnant]

Nah, farm is full of golden chicken coops

[harsh trellis]

Make room then lol

[gray oriole]

so you just don't plant a tree there

[tough remnant]

Because autograbbers are the most efficient gold per harvest by far and it's not even close lol

[hidden ore]

so what about the quarry for a small version of that grid?

[gray oriole]

being unable to plant a tree in some spot doesn't magically make you able to bypass the very strict grid tiles to plant an additional tree somewhere else does it?

[harsh trellis]

Quarry also good

[tough remnant]

Quarry is good yeah

[harsh trellis]

Stones/ores wont spawn on tiles right?

[tough remnant]

On paths no

[gray oriole]

paths block iirc

[hidden ore]

they do not.

[harsh trellis]

Nice then quarry seems perfect

[tough remnant]

It's why my quarry tapper farms are usually filled with gravel

It looks like dirt, but it blocks rocks spawning

[harsh trellis]

This way i wont have to replace oak tappers 🙂

But ill have to replace new mystics in quarry

[tough remnant]

My old quarry tapper farm

Very nice and clean aesthetics

[harsh trellis]

Ye

[mellow atlas]

I like using the quarry for crystalariums

connected to the minecart network which means I can easily take the jades and take the bus on sundays right after

[harsh trellis]

Wait what do mahog trees give with tapers?

[mellow atlas]

just normal sap

ass

[harsh trellis]

Weird but ok

[tough remnant]

But... they can be tapped

[mellow atlas]

what? it just gives you sap. that's the answer

not worth your tapper

[harsh trellis]

Ye

[autumn cedar]

like, a lot of it tho

i think

[woven tusk]

Which raccoon seed trades for sap again

[autumn cedar]

isnt it like 10 per day or something

[tough remnant]

Important for my main farms, since my main farms are all about "if I can have a farm for it, I will have a farm for it"

Everything Farm

[harsh trellis]

Theres also 1.6.4 patch coming next week

[tough remnant]

I sacrificed my children to fuel the Bat Wing farm even back when that was the only drop you could get from Possessed Dolls

Because hey, I could have a reliable bat wing farm

Never know if some extra use will be added for those in the future

[gloomy falcon]

Random question has anyone found where to get this wallpaper? I am going insane looking for it:

[harsh trellis]

[gray oriole]

its not in the wallpaper catalog?

[hidden ore]

there are some new wallpapers now that aren't in the catalogue

[flat sedge]

So.... I did the Lewis basement run and got the shorts.

[gloomy falcon]

Nope

[flat sedge]

It won't let me give them back to him? Im confused, tf do i do now?

[hidden ore]

keep 'em. you can probably put them in the soup at the luau, display them at the fair, or you can use them as a bobber (maybe they need to be trimmed for that, not sure)

[solemn haven]

looks haunted. maybe one of the haunted manequins puts it up

[flat sedge]

IT CAN BE A BOBBER

[hidden ore]

and you can trim them and wear them too

[flat sedge]

💀

[tough remnant]

Hmm, don't recognise that one

[solemn haven]

put them on

[tough remnant]

Doesn't seem to be from any of the festival stalls either

[flat sedge]

What do i have to put in with it at the sewing machine, just cloth? To wear the shorts

[hidden ore]

I think it might need a gold bar to add the trim

[solemn haven]

gold

[hidden ore]

or is it gold ore< I thought a bar but best to check the wiki

[solemn haven]

does krobus have stall?

[flat sedge]

Move over, Emily i need your machine 😆

[gloomy falcon]

I was not aware they could do this - I'll try it out and see

[solemn haven]

i havent had it happen but i thought someone said they can

ive only had them creepily move around my house and stare at me while i sleep

currently one is the wallpaper

they somehow glitched above bed which was against wall

[gloomy falcon]

lol sounds creepy - perfect for my edgelord farm thanks

[flat sedge]

Gold bar and shorts, no cloth

[hidden ore]

so yo ucan wear one set then get another set for the bobber

[cyan prawn]

Wait, I just realised something cool 0.0 The birds in the cinema change to Ravens and bats in Fall! It also has pumpkins outside and you can win them in the claw machine game.

[flat sedge]

Oh i can go down for another pair?!

[hidden ore]

you can go down for as many pairs as you like!

[cyan prawn]

Haunted undies lol

[flat sedge]

CA gives us too much power 😆

[hidden ore]

want a row of mannequins wearing lucky purple shorts by the entrance to your farm? you have the power

(would love to see what Lewis would have to say about that, heh)

[gray oriole]

give marnie a pair

give lewis a pair

give everyone a pair

[gray oriole]

why does the lucky purple shorts not have its own wiki page

it has a bunch of secrets, events, and dialogue associated with it and its own mini dungeon

[flat sedge]

Cuz we're cowards

Lmao

[woven tusk]

Those shorts in his basement are pretty menacing, tbf

[hidden ore]

they are apparently a type of "bat" in the game code

[flat sedge]

Those have got to be RANK to be able to levitate like that

Gliding goon boxers

[woven tusk]

Farmer A: "I can fix them." (Launders them and tailors a gold trim onto them)
Farmer B: "I can make them worse." (Attaches them to the fishing pole as a bobber, goes fishing in the radioactive green goo in the sewers)

[flint shore]

What a creation

[woven tusk]

Its grange score is

OFF THE CHARTS

(Because it was disqualified)

[tough remnant]

I have discovered where this wallpaper comes from lol

It's actually hilarious

You cannot obtain it

However, you can potentially put it on a room

[autumn cedar]

slaayyy

she dressed me up like a slime

[tough remnant]

It turns out that that wallpaper is exclusively available from Cursed Mannequins redecorating your house

[flint shore]

Elaborate

[tough remnant]

0.1% chance each night

[flint shore]

oh damn

[woven tusk]

So you stack cursed mannequins in the house and hope they pick that wallpaper

[tough remnant]

For cursed mannequin to set your wallpaper of (WP)MoreWalls:21, the name of that wallpaper

[chilly bloom]

It’s very limited by a multitude of factors, still good for swapping out maybe a couple thousand crystalariums though for about 15% extra cash (you’d harvest every 5 days to keep sync with crystalariums)

[tough remnant]

Specifically that one

[gray oriole]

new challenge

decorate the entire house with wallpaper 21

pray the mannequins don't overwrite an existing wallpaper 21 with a different one

[tough remnant]

Oh no, that's actually the only wallpaper they can pick I think?

[hidden ore]

it's too bad you don't get one wallpaper back when placing a new one over it

[gray oriole]

wallpapers being consumable is so ass yeah

i wish furniture worked more like journey mode on terraria

[tough remnant]

I don't see any other code that would overwrite wallpapers in their nightly events

[gray oriole]

where u put an item in to unlock infinite copies of it

[tough remnant]

Yeah, I've said that I think that's how the catalogues should have worked from the beginning

Including the default wallpapers

[hidden ore]

I don't mind if for rare wallpapers you need to get several if you want to do several rooms, but if you decide it would go better somewhere else and you can't reclaim it? not a fan

[tough remnant]

Make it so they actually have a point

[tough remnant]

I mean, that's wallpaper for you

[regal fulcrum]

FISH!

[tough remnant]

Not exactly a reusable product

[hidden ore]

you can pick up and move anything else (except floors). anything.

[gray oriole]

realism shouldn't get in the way of gameplay QoL

also realism got thrown out the window for decoration when we became able to move entire buildings instantly for free

[tough remnant]

Wasn't generally an issue until now though

Addition of scarce wallpapers really messed with the dynamic lol

[hidden ore]

ayup

[regal fulcrum]

As if a living slime wasn't real enough.

[hidden ore]

now if I want to test out a wallpaper I need to do it first thing in the morning so I can reset the day if I don't like it (for ones not in the catalogue)

[tough remnant]

Okay yeah, basically Cursed Mannequins have a 0.1% chance every night to turn the room they're in into a cave

[gray oriole]

what about other wallpapers?

[tough remnant]

That's the only one they do

They don't have a general random wallpaper thing

[hidden ore]

there's a really beautiful blue and white one that's new, I haven't seen it in game, only on the wiki

[autumn cedar]

thats awesome omfg

how do i get a cursed mannequin

[hidden ore]

quarry and whack.. skulls? skeletons? whichever

[amber walrus]

i got one from the quarry mine

[autumn cedar]

i see i see

makes sense

[amber walrus]

kill enemies and they have a chance to drop it i think

[autumn cedar]

im glad theres reasons to revisit the quarry mine now

[amber walrus]

cursed mannequins are new though? never encountered them before that so i didnt know that

[gray oriole]

Quarry mine is pretty sick

Lots of good drops and loot

So much coal

[tough remnant]

Cursed Mannequins specifically do this combo

[hidden ore]

yep 1.6 item, the mannequins

[tough remnant]

Left is wallpaper, right is floor

[hidden ore]

someone is likely workin gon the chaos decor mod righ tnow

where the range of floors, wallpaper and general crap they can move around is much much larger 😄

[tough remnant]

Also, it seems like every mannequin has independent checks

So if you really want cave house

Fill the room

[hidden ore]

upper right room of fully renovated house is quite large, could fit a lot of them in there

[tough remnant]

I was thinking the bottom right room

That seems like prime cave area

[hidden ore]

(excuse the mess) here's what I mean, about the upper right. yes I know it needs to be decorated, no I haven't gotten to it yet

[tough remnant]

Also the odds are low enough that you can actually pretty safely approximate by just multiplying by number of mannequins, which is nice

[tough remnant]

I'm not sure if that all counts as the one room?

[hidden ore]

I think it does, it's listed as the "corner room" and expanding the corner room, for the renovation iirc

[tough remnant]

I mean in terms of flooring and wallpapers

[hidden ore]

oh I see, yeah 3 wallpapers to cover the space, I don't know about flooring, would have to test

[tough remnant]

Actually, huh

They specifically replace the wallpaper directly north of them lol

The floor they're standing on, and the wallpaper directly above them

[hidden ore]

oh wow, that's very targeted

[tough remnant]

You could get some cursed interactions like changing entry room to cave floor and attic to cave wall

[hidden ore]

but. they move around right?

so you can't guarantee they'll stay in the room you put them in

[tough remnant]

Yes, even better, the movement check happens first lol

[gray oriole]

Simply use more of them

[tough remnant]

Oh wait

That only happens if the farmer is present

Interesting

But the wallpaper bit can happen regardless

Cursed Mannequins don't move in sheds

[hidden ore]

so if you sleep at the island

[tough remnant]

Or in your house if you sleep elsewhere

[hidden ore]

very interesting...

[tough remnant]

Actually nevermind, I misinterpreted that code

Actually that's a different thing

That's not the code for them moving around their room

They have a 0.5% chance each night to move to a location next to the farmer's bed, and be staring at you when you wake up

[forest saddle]

I just need to say that with the new better fishing rod and 2 trab bobbers the legendarys are SO easy, ive always had big problems but now i got the glacier on my first try

[tough remnant]

That happens before the 0.1% chance to redecorate

[hidden ore]

is it still true that if you sleep elsewhere they don't move?

[tough remnant]

Nope

[hidden ore]

I went one trap and one cork bobber, and did the round of 'extended family' today, done easily in a day and time to spare

[tough remnant]

The moving is a 2% chance if they don't redecorate

[hidden ore]

oh, so wait. they redecorate maybe, if they don't do that, then they move?

this at least is manageable

[gray oriole]

U can make the fishing bar so long now

Its like half the fishing ui at max buffs

Pretty crazy

[hidden ore]

qi seasoning plus seafoam pudding plus the blessing of waters plus all the rest, yeah it's a lot

[tough remnant]

0.5% chance to swap clothes with you
0.5% chance to stare at you in your sleep
0.1% chance to redecorate
Only if they don't redecorate, 2% chance to move. The code for this is pretty inscrutable and I have no idea how it works.

That's odds for cursed mannequin

There's also a bunch of other miscellaneous jumpscare interactions

[hidden ore]

if you're not present can they still swap clothes with you?

[neat sail]

Like eyes following you around

[spark bronze]

Does anyone know when the 1.6 update is coming to other platforms??

[tough remnant]

No, the clothes swapping part is actually done by the farmer

It's in a separate part of the code to the rest

[gray oriole]

🤷‍♀️

[hidden ore]

We know CA is working on it and wants the time not to be very long, that's all

[tough remnant]

Also if this happens, the mannequins will have eyes for 1 second after you wake up

[hidden ore]

eeeeewwwwww

[spark bronze]

Thank you

[hidden ore]

stardew valley of the dolls

[glossy cipher]

y’all

[woven tusk]

Hm, yes

The mousey pounds

[tough remnant]

They also have a 1/3000 chance to have eyes for 2.5 seconds each time the clock progresses

[gloomy falcon]

Welp my house is gonna be swarmed with them - time to farm the quarry.

[forest saddle]

how do i find the cave jelly fastest? the wiki confused me on which water place is fastes

[gloomy falcon]

Thanks for confirming 😄

[forest saddle]

that is so creepy

[hidden ore]

floor 100.

[forest saddle]

alr thanks

[hidden ore]

there's an additional luck based roll there in addition to the standard chance the other floors have

[tough remnant]

Mines 100, do short casts with as much luck buff as you can possibly get. Bait and spinners are best if you wanna farm it, just to reduce time between catches.

[tough remnant]

It's not "in addition", it's instead

But it still works out as better odds

[hidden ore]

I was under the impression that there was luck + the regular chance, is that mistaken?

[tough remnant]

And you get max odds without needing to do any weird shit

Nope, mines 100 never actually uses the regular fishing function

[hidden ore]

ok, making a mental note, thanks

[calm bobcat]

do we not get a golden pumpkin anymore on spirit's eve? i only got the prize ticket from the chest...

[hidden ore]

you get a golden pumpkin every other year

[forest saddle]

im gonna set up a lava eel pond to get them as well cus that was annoying haha

[tough remnant]

It's literally:

• Is it a lava eel?
• No? Then is it a cave jelly?
• No? Then it's trash

Never calls the other functions

[hidden ore]

let's hope I can retain that and recall it next time

[tough remnant]

Targeted Bait also works differently there, it's just a flat increase to chance of lava eel without any of the fancy "roll twice and see if either is lava eel" or "multiply the bite chance by 1.66" shenanigans that other fish do

In fact, bite chance of lava eel doesn't matter there lol

[hidden ore]

well bite chance compared to what other fish, after all

[tough remnant]

Caldera is also cursed in a completely different way lol

Caldera uses the regular fishing mechanics

But has 8 different entries for Lava Eel depending on depth

Depth 6+ doesn't exist

But it has entries anyway

[hidden ore]

8 entries, sheesh

who has the time to code that up anyways

[tough remnant]

I mean, they're basically identical

[hidden ore]

gives CA the side-eye

[tough remnant]

Practical effect is that lava eel rates go up by 10% per depth

[gray oriole]

Multiplicative 10%?

[tough remnant]

So depth 5 is 50% chance

[gray oriole]

Eh?

[tough remnant]

Nah additive

[gray oriole]

Depth 5 has coinflip for eel in caldera?

Really doesnt feel like it

[tough remnant]

Sorta but not really

[hidden ore]

maybe I should get a few lava eels for the fish tanks

[tough remnant]

Because this is before bite chance

It's like... 50% chance to have a chance at lava eel

[glossy cipher]

i can pick two masteries

i have farming already

so

what do i pick 😭

[tough remnant]

But targeted bait in caldera is pretty insane rates

[hidden ore]

hm, might have a lava eel around, I doubt I got rid of it. will consider.

[median imp]

im so confused the squid fest wants me to catch EIGHT squids and i havnt even gotten 1 D:

[woven tusk]

Once you do manage one, you can at least make bait out of it to get more of them faster

Squid are real bastards to land, if memory serves. A trap bobber might help

[tough remnant]

Squid are like... B tier difficulty

Harder than most

[woven tusk]

Where do catfish fall?

[fluid acorn]

help why is my tree weird????

[hidden ore]

they take a bit of work if you'r not sufficiently leveled up

[tough remnant]

They'd be an A tier

[woven tusk]

Green Rain just... does that

[forest saddle]

this was exactly my reaction when i saw that haha

[fluid acorn]

does it go back to normal 😭

[woven tusk]

Squids literally have arms but they're not smart enough to use them?

No wonder the octolings had them cornered that time

[tough remnant]

Octopus on the other hand are S tier

[forest saddle]

im not 100% but pretty sure when the rain stops (the next day)

[woven tusk]

Octopi are scarily smart even irl, so that makes sense

[tough remnant]

But yeah, Catfish are like, low A tier. They share space with shit like Lingcod, Void Salmon, Blobfish, etc.

[fluid acorn]

is there anything i should do during green rain or just a usual farming day

[forest saddle]

more foraging things, more moss on trees

[woven tusk]

And presumably Sturgeon, as they are only 3 difficulty apart

[tough remnant]

Cutting down trees in the wild IMO

[tough remnant]

Yeah

[woven tusk]

Green rain day comes only once a year

[tough remnant]

Sturgeon is probably bottom of A tier

[woven tusk]

Great time for foraging exp

[forest saddle]

while i was fishing for cave jelly i took some lava eels beside it x)

[woven tusk]

Get as much moss/fiber/wood as you can, unless it would mean neglecting your farm

[tough remnant]

Then S tier has shit like Scorpion Carp, Octopus, Legend, Glacierfish, Crimsonfish...

[woven tusk]

Angler and Mutant Carp probably would be in the A tier, then?

[tough remnant]

Angler might be B honestly

[woven tusk]

Weaklings among the legends

[tough remnant]

Mutant Carp is A

It's basically a catfish

[fluid acorn]

do the weird trees stay the next day ? clint is holding my axe hostage

[tough remnant]

They stay a few days

Then change back

I think I could more reliably perfect an Angler than anything in A honestly

I don't remember the last time I got a non-perfect Angler

So it's B tier

[woven tusk]

Many (if not most/all) of them persist, just as regular trees. They un-mutate when the green rain ends.

I recommend playing the day twice: once to see all the townies' reactions to the rain, then reset without saving. Replay the day to actually run around harvesting all the fiber/moss

The townies have more dialogue for the day after the rain is over, too

Contrast Demetrius' reaction to most of the townies'

And then contrast Leah's reaction with the lot of them

Wizard and Linus have stuff to say, too

[tough remnant]

No green rain on GI 😔

[limpid grove]

GI?

[woven tusk]

Ginger Island, lategame unlock (or postgame, if you count the community center as the main game)

This talk about the green rain has me curious.
Do the townies grow accustomed to it according to the number of green rains that have occurred on that save file, or by calendar year? Because loading up a pre-1.6 file can mean those aren't the same thing... And that can mean Kent is or is not present for the "first" rain, and possibly react differently if the second one isn't his first

[green gyro]

yeah the A tiers are all inconsistent to perfect

angler is a pretty easy perfect

did anything change about angler spawning

i haven't been able to fish one in 1.6

[tough remnant]

Haven't tried

[green gyro]

oh wait im in the wrong part of the river lol

[cedar wind]

ok

[green gyro]

does the artifact sell price book make dinos worth it now?

[cedar wind]

greeny rainy

[woven tusk]

Why is there an anglerfish in freshwater shallows

[harsh plover]

Still waiting for the Galaxy Slingshot and Rapier Sword

[green gyro]

wait

yeah

[tough remnant]

They're still bad compared to most other animals, but no longer hilariously awful

[green gyro]

oh

i was so excited about finding a dinosaur level on floor 12

[cedar wind]

harvey'

[tough remnant]

They're now 2nd worst animal instead of worst by far

RIP ducks

They are now worst

[harsh plover]

Lol poor Duckies

[green gyro]

are ducks really that bad?

[woven tusk]

Why'd we need the artifact price guide when Lewis is the one doing the selling, actually

[green gyro]

i guess cause the eggs suck and are every other day

[tough remnant]

And feathers suck

[woven tusk]

Sometimes you get a feather instead, which sucks even more

The two people who love it, also love tree fruit

[tough remnant]

Ducks "good" produce is a downgrade

[harsh plover]

The feather REPLACING the egg is so stupid

Just have the eggs be guaranteed and then a chance for an extra feather

[green gyro]

wait are duck eggs really the same as large eggs but with half the frequency

oh wow that's bad

[tough remnant]

And dinos were still significantly worse before lol

Now they are better

[woven tusk]

New additional benefit to dino: making Demetrius so shook that he can't finish his coffee so he gives it to you

[calm bobcat]

can i change the color of my parrot? from the trinket

[harsh plover]

It's pretty much better to sell Dino eggs with the archeology book than to turn them into mayo right? At least with the higher quality ones

[tough remnant]

Nope

[tough remnant]

Always better unless you both have Artisan and the egg is base quality

[harsh plover]

Oof

Dino mayo sucks

[tough remnant]

Dinos have some reasonable niches in challenge runs though

[calm bobcat]

was that for me?

[tough remnant]

Yeah, no parrot recolour

[harsh plover]

Yeah I'm pretty sure, cause I also don't know of any way to change the trinket's color.

Sorry, maybe it'll be added in the future though

Or someone can make a mod for it

[woven tusk]

Magic Hair Feather Gel

[tough remnant]

But yeah, while dinos are 2nd worst overall, they're 2nd best if you're doing a no-XP challenge

[woven tusk]

New problem: only one trinket slot...

[harsh plover]

The best is pigs?

[woven tusk]

Gold chickens?

Or if this is for the max waiver challenge, both are bad

[tough remnant]

4th actually lol, forgot those because they were ineligible for the challenge I was theorycrafting

Yeah for Max Waiver

[harsh plover]

Ooh wait can you put the golden tag on gold chickens

[tough remnant]

Yes

[harsh plover]

Cool

[woven tusk]

...The Trout Derby currency?

[harsh plover]

Although that late game it probably doesn't matter lol

[green gyro]

pigs are just the best with machines right

[harsh plover]

The medal that looks like a cow

[woven tusk]

The Animal Cracker?

[white ridge]

It is a cracker
They eat it

And yes you can

[harsh plover]

They are also good without, especially with botanist profession

[harsh plover]

Ohhhh

That's what it is

[green gyro]

sorry bad wording

[tough remnant]

Pigs are highest income per animal, but high effort and not very space efficient

[green gyro]

the just was extra

[harsh plover]

High effort? Because the autocollector can't take the truffles?

[tough remnant]

Yes

[harsh plover]

Can you get the truffles with iridium scythe

[tough remnant]

... I don't know, I suspect no but haven't tried

But yeah, dinos are actually 2nd best animal for the Max Waivers challenge, where you need an animal that can be harvested without XP gain and to sell produce without processing

They're outperformed by cows

[woven tusk]

Wouldn't want to scythe truffles, you might hit your grass

[green gyro]

what's the best thing to work on while waiting for the last few y1 cc items?

i'm just waiting for winter at this point

[tough remnant]

But dinos are more convenient because clearing farm space in Max Waivers is hard and you can just ship the eggs instead of needing to sell the milk to Marnie

[green gyro]

have a ton of cranberries

[tough remnant]

Finish mines if you haven't already, collect hardwood, do SC dives if you can

[green gyro]

waiting on jades for SC diving

just did one

how deep do you have to go to get a substantial amount of iridimu?

i didn't find any at all until like 35

it was all crabs

[tough remnant]

It's pretty rare in early levels yeah

[stray swift]

how substantial we talking

[tough remnant]

Odds just keep going up as you get deeper though

[green gyro]

enough to be able to collect enough for a tool in an hour or two

using bombs

[stray swift]

first run i would aim for 100 floors at least, with good prep its pretty doable

[stray swift]

per ingame hour?

[green gyro]

yeah

[tough remnant]

Diminishing returns kick in quite heavily around floor 800 or so in my experience, but even then, people who are better than I am go much deeper than that

[green gyro]

oh i way underestimated how deep i'd need to go

[stray swift]

i think if i hit up floor 100+, i get about 200? iridium which is pretty decent

bring all the buffs, decent heals, bombs, desert warp, and don't be afraid to craft a few stairs with stone if you dont have enough other gear

[carmine patio]

My cat just gave me a fish is this 1.6 or old news

[green gyro]

to get more crystallariums can you just have 3 players join to collect them from the museum?

for a total of 5

[tough remnant]

New stuff yeah

[wintry forum]

wait

the four precious stones qi quest was changed?

[tough remnant]

Yeah

No more just hoarding shards in advance for it

[wintry forum]

well time to reset the day

[maiden oar]

unironically nice of pam to remind me she aint driving this day lmao

[vestal widget]

if we can drive it why the hell do we need to wait till 10 lol

[golden pond]

Because its her only job lmao

[green gyro]

isn't it absurdly difficult now then

[gloomy stag]

good question lol

[calm bobcat]

can i give back my waiver i don't want it

[golden pond]

Tbf a couple good trips to the skull carvern still proves to make that quest simple enough

[gloomy stag]

NO

[calm bobcat]

yuck

[golden pond]

You have crossed a line you can never go back from

[wintry forum]

yeah

i still get 2-3 prismatics on a good day

[calm bobcat]

it's so disgusting, even if i get perfect perfection it's always there... written...

[golden pond]

Thems the consequences for selling your soul to the Joja

[gloomy stag]

Why would you buy it

but I understand if you did it

but why would you⁉️

[calm bobcat]

i wanted to see what it would do

even though i could've just read a stupid wiki page

[gloomy stag]

Bad

Bad pink cake slime

[drowsy steeple]

I love that bus skin, it's such an insult to pam's dignity

[calm bobcat]

it's done

[gloomy stag]

and now you won't achieve true perfection

[calm bobcat]

i will but it has a smudge in there

[gloomy stag]

Unless you begin a new save

[golden pond]

So is getting a desert obelisk

[stray swift]

bit of a stretch to call it that

[maiden oar]

the hello kitty bus stays

[green gyro]

are prismatic shards really that easy to get

[stray swift]

depends

but thats a single skull cavern run if you're decently prepared

[drowsy steeple]

idk if it's a thing in other countries but we have colorful "open buses" that ride in short routes for kids and their mothers, and their driver is always the most blue collar men imaginable

[stray swift]

and they do give you 28 days to ge tit done

[drowsy steeple]

tbt clueless me deciding to do only 50 floors of SC during the desert fest so I can experience the rest of the fest

no prismatic whatsoever in 3 days

[stray swift]

preparation is Important ...

[drowsy steeple]

couldn't do much in preparation except getting the bus in spring y1, desert fest is already tight

[stray swift]

does time pass during the desert fest

[drowsy steeple]

yes

[stray swift]

(i still have not played the update)

[sacred river]

The real

[stray swift]

i'll play it soon to re max my sc setup

[drowsy steeple]

if you get to the desert fest please learn from my mistake and eat food buffs, it stacks with the chef

[stray swift]

oh yeah i heard about that

[round meteor]

I have a question

[drowsy steeple]

I heard about that only after the fest is over

[sacred river]

You also got to reach the bottom of the mines to begin with

[stray swift]

i also heard that the egg nodes replace some iridium? which makes sc during desert fest a bit worse

[sacred river]

To unlock sc

[drowsy steeple]

desert fest unlocks SC no matter what

[stray swift]

apparently sc is always unlocked during dseert fest

[round meteor]

Who is the new npc with the sunglasses

[drowsy steeple]

I only go down mines to get a decent weapon

[sacred river]

Interesting

[stray swift]

but i looked at it and 55 egg rating for a mrc sounds amazing

[drowsy steeple]

that's pretty much impossible year 1

unless you abandon everything else

[stray swift]

i would sell my kids for a mrc

actually i changed my mind

[drowsy steeple]

who wouldn't, kids are worthless

lol

[golden pond]

You have a 3.5% chance to get one from an iridium node. So you have about a 35% chance to get one from breaking 10 of them. And getting past level 100 in the skull cavern means you’ll break at least 20 of them probably. Raising the chance of getting at least one to 65%

Not to mention mystic stones which have a 25% chance to drop them, many of which are also found past floor 100 so you’ll have plenty of chances.

[round meteor]

Who is this guy

[sacred river]

Fizz

[drowsy steeple]

according to people in this channel, mr qi's alter ego

[golden pond]

Mr, sell your soul for perfection

[stray swift]

mystic stones are like the worst way ever to get consistent prismatic shards

[round meteor]

Sr soul

[wintry forum]

mr cheap

[viral tide]

Is this the green rain thing

[sacred river]

Mystic stones are definitely not commonly found past floor 100

[drowsy steeple]

yes

[sacred river]

They are significantly rarer than people think they are

[wintry forum]

yep go get your free +999 fiber and +300 moss

[green gyro]

yeah i forgot they're pretty common from iridium nodes

also you're way overselling the chances it's more like 30% and 50%

[golden pond]

I didnt say bet on them, just saying if you’re at least decent enough at mining, you’re bound to get more than enough in a week

[stray swift]

10000 floors in sc, i see average like 2 mystic stone

breaking iridium nodes is most consistent

[drowsy steeple]

30% and 51% respectively btw

1-P^n

[stray swift]

for at least 1 prismatic shard

[golden pond]

Yeah I dont do math, but you get the idea lmao

[drowsy steeple]

yes

[stray swift]

probilty

what would be the easiest way to get a tent kit from a pre 1.6 perfection save

[drowsy steeple]

craft one?

[stray swift]

they're craftable?

ok gg

[drowsy steeple]

speaking of, that hardwood makes sense from a balance perspective but not from a realism perspective

you can definitely make a tent out of softwood branches

[sacred river]

You say the hardwood is unrealistic when the thing only needs 1 cloth lol

[stray swift]

also can i get 25000 mastery xp from one sc run and claim two masteries in a row

[white ridge]

Hypothetically you could

[golden pond]

I believe one of the remix bundles also gives tents. I forgot which one though. I have like 3 and haven’t even crafted one yet

[drowsy steeple]

depending on the size of the cloth. i think 1 mummy worth of cloth is reasonable

[stray swift]

the question is more "can i store 25000 mastery xp and claim two masteries"

[white ridge]

I think you can

[stray swift]

or do i have to get 10000, claim a mastery, and get 15000 more

[drowsy steeple]

that'd be annoying considering you can harvest starfruits and get to lv 3 immediately

[stray swift]

i dont have starfruits planted

[golden pond]

Yes you can. Mastery XP is the same as regular XP. So its just, you can claim your level up reward if you want to, its not required to level up further

[stray swift]

col

[vernal shale]

meteorites also have a 25% chance now

[karmic cargo]

oh snap

[vestal widget]

was it buffed to 100% in 1.6

[vernal shale]

then nerfed in 1.6.3

[golden pond]

Yeah but like. No one is gonna wait to get that quest to finally break the meteorite assuming they have one

[vestal widget]

wish i knew that lol

i had an early meteor in my first 1.6 save didnt break it

[drowsy steeple]

is this cut content? "FishFrenzy_town": "A {0} frenzy has begun in town."

[vestal widget]

no clue, could be 1.6.4 tho

[golden pond]

^

[vestal widget]

something about new fishing content

[golden pond]

We do love fishing content

[drowsy steeple]

I'd hate to have a carp frenzy in the mountains

[normal falcon]

at the desert festival, are calico eggs reset or they stay on the old amount?

[vestal widget]

reset

[normal falcon]

oh thanks

[vestal widget]

👍

[drowsy steeple]

hmm according to the games code if you break a qi fruit giant crop when the quest isn't active you get mystery boxes instead?

[muted flint]

so now that the mushroom cave only reproduces once every other day does that make it factually worse or is it still opinionated because of the dehydrator?

[drowsy steeple]

I still do mushrooms, fruit bats give little value imo

[white ridge]

I don't need fruit for anything when I join joja

[glossy cipher]

it won’t let me place acorns in certain spots in the desert 😭

it keeps doing stuff like that

whereas on 1.5 a lot of the spaces I could fill

i can place on one part of the darker bit but not another

[gloomy stag]

Yes please

[feral wyvern]

Fishing stresses me out but I enjoy it 🤣

[golden pond]

Wont like, most of that stuff get destroyed during the desert festival

[spiral minnow]

Hello people, i've got a question, did diamond farming got nerfed with the RNG changes? do i need to have the legacy thing enabled to be able to do it?

[white ridge]

No the desert festival is a different nap than the regular desert

[atomic sand]

whatre the benefits of the key to the town that lets u into any house 24/7 if the npcs leave their jobs at 4/5

[sacred river]

Gifting

[white ridge]

Opens pierres on Wednesdays if you're on the joja route

[stray swift]

id ont believe so

[solid crane]

😱

WHAT COULD IT MEAN

[spiral minnow]

Really? I've tried diamond farm on 2 different very good luck days and i found absolutely nothing

[stray swift]

good luck day didnt affect it very much iirc

[golden pond]

Oh interesting

[spiral minnow]

It doesn't? Well fuck me, do you happen to know what the chance for diamonds to spawn on those floor are?

[atomic surge]

Mastery - Farm and Combat are considered best 1st picks right?

[golden pond]

Actually also mining because of the large furnace. Uses less coal and more often than not, throws in an extra smelted bar for your troubles

[final jay]

Hi I have a question regarding the 1.6 update. Time doesn't pause when you're fishing with the new mastery fishing rod as far as I can tell. I'm just wondering if this is on purpose
It's supposed to do that correct? I'm playing solo btw I'm trying to win an argument with a friend

[golden pond]

It doesn’t? I never noticed

[brittle peak]

Does mastery have to be done in a specific order? Like I pick one to do and it like tells me how much more xp I have to get before I can get it?

[final jay]

It could be a bug? I just want to make sure

[golden pond]

Wouldn’t make sense for the new rod to not have that vs the others

[drowsy steeple]

are you sure you're not in multiplayer?

[golden pond]

No, Mastery works the same way as leveling up normally. The mastery skills being your rewards for leveling up which you can pick up at anytime, and you can still obtain XP until you reach max level

[odd cedar]

For 1.6, bats or shrooms for aesthethic and benefit?

[golden pond]

With shrooms you get a free dehydrator

[final jay]

I'm positive I'm not in multiplayer, and it's doing strange things
Sometimes when the fish is still in the green bar but at the bottom of it it just automatically assumes I've lost to the fish, I have the cork bobber on so maybe that's messing with it?

[maiden fiber]

Are you playing multiplayer or solo

[final jay]

Solo

[maiden fiber]

Could be a bug

Report it on the forum if it’s not already there

[final jay]

In technical support?

[atomic surge]

Any tips on stacking up 999 fibre and 333 moss for statue of blessing?

Start of Y2

[short cloud]

I went with mushrooms for my farm cave but I honestly regret it now, what with the new mushroom logs

[short cloud]

Honestly I'd wait for green rain in summer and stockpile moss then. I got like 400 in year 1

[forest saddle]

I now know what i want my next tattoo to be!! Its soo cute!!!

[drowsy steeple]

for me personally at the point that I can get mushroom logs in a decent quantity the cave is already obsolete

so in that case fruit bats are better because the boxes aren't in the way

[atomic surge]

Yeha I had a bunch Y1, used it on mushroom stump things

[fiery hinge]

wish there was a totem for green rain

[drowsy steeple]

it would be exteremely OP lol

[maiden fiber]

Yeah or the official forum

!officialbug

[unkempt dome]

If you've checked that it's not a mod bug:

• Report gameplay bugs to the Stardew Valley developers here: https://forums.stardewvalley.net/forums/12/ (do a quick search first so you don't report something they're already looking into).
• Report typos or translation errors here: https://forums.stardewvalley.net/forums/32/
  Alternatively, you can email [e-mail]

To use this command, type !officialbug.

[golden pond]

Go to the bug sewers daily & don’t throw away weeds when you go to the mines? You also get most of both of those things on green rain day. So you should prepare not to do anything else on green rain day except run around getting as much as you can

[short cloud]

Yeah fruit bats are definitely the way to go for 1.6 I think, cause the mushrooms are pointless after crafting a ton of mushroom logs

[mellow atlas]

is there a best tool for cutting fiber? would a sword with high speed be better than a scythe?

[short cloud]

I never go into my farm cave now sadly

[maiden fiber]

Same

[lunar adder]

SORRY, I FEEL LIKE IM LOSING MY MIND, NO ONES TALKING ABOUT THE CUTSCENE WHERE MR QI KILLS YOU???

[mellow atlas]

?

[hidden ore]

I expect the iridium scythe might be the best for fiber but I've not looked at the code to see

[woven tusk]

With all the moaning about the wild seed ForagingEXP nerf, I feel like the 30 EXP every second day from the shroom boxes is actually possibly meaningful

Fruitbat cave gives way less

[hidden ore]

well people have talked about it, they just weren't talking about it right this second...

[woven tusk]

And the free dehydrator is really handy that early on

[hidden ore]

was someone naughty and snuck up to the summit ahead of time??

[lunar adder]

oh, i’ve been talking here every day and i’ve not seen anyone talk about it

[drowsy steeple]

mine just collects dust

[woven tusk]

You're not most people

[drowsy steeple]

not a lot of things to dehydrate that doesn't also give decent energy

[drowsy steeple]

fair

[hidden ore]

yeah someone brings it up from time to time in one context or another 🙂

[short cloud]

Maybe, but honestly I just planted a ton of trees with tree fertilizer and got my foraging exp that way. Plus the extra wood is great to have

[lunar adder]

i just feel like it’s an insane cutscene to not be constantly talked about

[woven tusk]

I couldn't have done that because I had basically no spare fiber between Day 1 until Green Rain (had to sell it all to afford the Fiberglass pole on Day 2)

[drowsy steeple]

qi doesn't even touch you, his death stare is already deadly

[woven tusk]

Feel like we've had a discussion about it at least once a day

[lunar adder]

he lunges towards you, you hear a splat, then the death sound

[lunar adder]

i’m here constantly and i haven’t seen it brought up even once 😭😭 now i feel dumb

[drowsy steeple]

I think he scares you so much you fall off the cliff by yourself

[stark glade]

I think we should be able to place mini obelisks on ginger island farm just saying

[bleak current]

it's also something that you won't see unless you cheat or glitch your way there so honestly I just don't even think about it

[woven tusk]

Hell, we talked about it this very morning

[lunar adder]

oh that was at midnight for me </3

[short cloud]

Honestly need this

[woven tusk]

Yeeeaaah it's just Somebody Else's Problem

[stark glade]

so we have two theories so far

1. he obliterates you into harvey's clinic
2. he obliterates you and places your mushed up body in front of Harvey's for him to find in the morning

[robust spoke]

probably just teleports you there

[lunar adder]

my poor alternate universe husband

yo romancable Mr Qi mod when??

[drowsy steeple]

since we know sandy is mr qi in disguise he could've just dressed up as lewis and bring you to the clinic

[lunar adder]

since we know excuse me?

[stark glade]

think I missed a theory session

[lunar adder]

yeah exactly wtf do u mean Mr Qi does drag

[drowsy steeple]

refuses to elaborate

leaves

[mental sail]

Sandy doesn't want you to know her true name is Qi, she tells you almost as much

[lunar adder]

WHAT DO YOU MEAN MR QI DOES DRAG

[stark glade]

I'm here looking like a fool

[golden pond]

Mr. Qi is actually just Agent Smith from the Matrix and he is actually in control of all NPCs at all times. They are all plotting against you

[lunar adder]

that’s a very pretty farm

[stark glade]

wish we had another stone floor variant that's just like 3 pebbles

[drowsy steeple]

qi sees you when you're sleeping and knows when you're awake

[hidden ore]

except it doesn't cost 100%, it's 1k gold bill from Harvey, or if you have less than that,. then that amount

[woven tusk]

He normally charges 10%.

[hidden ore]

if you have 50k, the bill is 1k. if you have 1 million gold, the bill is still 1k

kinda cheap when you think about it

[woven tusk]

If you have 1k, he'd normally charge 100

He'd take it all if not for the 1k cap

[hidden ore]

eh it's just a flat fee

[drowsy steeple]

The amount of gold lost is determined by the player's currently available gold, up to 15,000g.

[woven tusk]

I thought that was for something else

[hidden ore]

but since there's no mechanism for iou in stardew valley, ...

[glossy cipher]

everything i got from 80 mystery boxes and 180 artefact troves 😭

[woven tusk]

Dialogue for one was found in the 1.6 files

[hidden ore]

the 15k is if you die, iirc, plus max 3 items

[woven tusk]

A Waterfall Farm where you start with a bonus but a huge debt to pay off

[hidden ore]

that would be an interesting challenge, I wonder what the effects of not paying off the debt would be

[woven tusk]

Have to be extra careful at the end of each season, since you have to afford the installment and new seeds

[stark glade]

in total, a bunch of items to use as strong dyes :)

[hidden ore]

and if you can't? then what happens?

[woven tusk]

It says negative balance right there

[hidden ore]

I guess I'll find out tomorrow, gotta sleep, have a good one everybody

[woven tusk]

So any revenue would probably have to go towards zeroing your balance before you can afford to buy anything

The worry is that this can snowball because you need money to make money for most of the game

[harsh bone]

do u get the same statue blessing if u reset the day

[woven tusk]

Yes

[harsh bone]

thanks

[woven tusk]

It's seeded like weather

[harsh bone]

its looking like im about to have 3 of each iridium quality legendary fish 😎

[stark glade]

just found out you can iridium scythe tea bushes

year 4 by the way

[golden pond]

Hey well at least some of that stuff you can actually use

[harsh bone]

shoutout to my bat cave giving me a whole 1 apple through 6 entire seasons

[buoyant raven]

Mushroom cave is better

[woven tusk]

Yeah, I tried the fruitbats on my first save and was extremely unimpressed

[harsh bone]

i dont care i want the easier year 1 bundles

[stark glade]

I barely even go in the mushroom cave

should decorate it

[buoyant raven]

Doesn't actually make it easier though

[golden pond]

Wait, you can actually get apples from the bat cave? I thought it was impossible so I always just planted an apple tree on Spring 28

[harsh bone]

how does it not? u can get fruit more easily

travmerch isnt always nice

[woven tusk]

I feel like the traveling cart is much more likely to get you pre-grown tree fruit. And I think I heard her inventory system was changed up in 1.6 so that items have had their respective rates evened out?

[buoyant raven]

You only need two fruit trees

[woven tusk]

There's also the fact that the second prize in Lewis' machine is a summer fruit sapling, so if you do 6 help-wanted quests before Summer, you'll have it in time for fruit

[harsh bone]

far right

[golden pond]

Wow. A whopping 2% chance. Wonderful

[drowsy steeple]

if the bonus is good enough this would be my go-to farm

[stark glade]

here come the money

[harsh bone]

it doesnt mean that much out of context

all of the non forageable fruit from the cave have a 3.6% chance except apple at 2%

[woven tusk]

2% per day? There are just over 100 days in a year so it'd take an average of a year and a half to get the three needed for the Fodder bundle

[drowsy steeple]

bats pros: 1. more space in cave 2. loved gifts for 3 people who are hard to shop for

[woven tusk]

At that point, put an apple tree in the greenhouse

[harsh bone]

i already have it was just funny how its been this long and ive only had 1 apple

[stark glade]

the point is having apples before even having a tree planted

[golden pond]

That may be true, but Ive basically never gotten an apple from the cave before and Ive played over 300 hours in this game with an average save going up to year 3

[woven tusk]

The point I'm making is that plan sucks, plant an actual tree. You get money in the fall.

[harsh bone]

ok but i also got these from the cave and theyre just under twice as likely as an apple

[stark glade]

there is a good couple tiles for spawns as much as the chance is low, but it's still so unreliable

[harsh bone]

and thats only the iridium ones

not counting all the other quality ones i used/sold

[woven tusk]

Wouldn't most of them be iridium due to Botanist?

[harsh bone]

at this point (summer y2) yes but its still like 2/3 or 3/4 of my total picks from the cave

[woven tusk]

Like, that is an advantage they'd have over actual trees (need to wait a long time for trees to reach iridium)
But trees in the greenhouse isn't that big a cost

[golden pond]

All of them should be iridium because of Botanist*

[woven tusk]

Greenhouse unlocks mid to late fall, where you have profits piling in

[maiden fiber]

For y1 CC I did fruit cave but bought an apple tree. Helped a lot

[woven tusk]

Not the ones collected before Foraging Lv10

[golden pond]

True

[golden pond]

Yeah thats what I do on every save where I dont do remix bundles lol

[maiden fiber]

Ya for sure

[woven tusk]

If it needs to be iridium (e.g. for a very powerful birthday gift), then the cave has that as an advantage over trees in the greenhouse
I... otherwise can't see myself really caring that much about the cave's yield

[buoyant raven]

I can complete community centre in y1 without the fruit cave and now that the mushroom one comes with a free dehydrator is pretty good

[brittle peak]

Same

[maiden fiber]

I like gifting fruit for y1 birthdays

[harsh bone]

is there any difference between using a scythe/sword for harvesting moss/fiber during green rain

[maiden fiber]

I don’t care much about the mushrooms

[woven tusk]

1.6 helps the Artisan Bundle via the prize machine summer sapling. And you can't count on the fruit bats for apples so you'd want a sapling for that one anyway

[maiden fiber]

Upgrade scythes will yield more fiber so yea

[brittle peak]

Only problem is, is I forgot to get a pig so I won't be able to finish y1

[woven tusk]

Chef bundle, huh

Oof

[buoyant raven]

Travelling cart sometimes sells truffles

[drowsy steeple]

you only need apples and pomegranates for normal CC anyway

[golden pond]

Honestly I could care less about the cave altogether, but if red and common mushrooms could be used for anything other than money, then there would be no point in the fruit cave at all

[woven tusk]

Indeed, but it's hard to count on it for a truffle vs counting on it for any one tree fruit for the Artisan bundle

[golden pond]

Plus truffle oil from the cart is usually not cheap, which can drive a hard bargain on your Y1 spending budget

[drowsy steeple]

why do you need truffle oil

[mental sail]

Still far cheaper than a barn upgrade + pig

[drowsy steeple]

artisan is easy. goat cheese and cheese you'd get anyway from the animal bundle. jelly, honey, and cloth are easy. that leaves you with 1 of any fruit

[woven tusk]

Someone else was sad that they couldn't get pigs in time for truffles for the CC.
Could be Artisan (truffle oil) or Chef (truffle itself) bundle

[buoyant raven]

I mean, if you get to winter and you forgot the pig, it's not going to hurt to check the travelling cart

[broken portal]

its nice and slick

[woven tusk]

If you intend to have pigs for Spring, you can plan around buying them on Winter 19. That should have them fully grown and ready to go truffling on Spring 1

On my previous save, I actually sold pigs on fall 28 and bought new pigs on Winter 19.

||I have not actually run the numbers to see if this was advantageous. ||

[golden pond]

Also Ive been meaning to ask, whats with the Junimo in the center of the ring of stars in the menu

[woven tusk]

Marks the CC route

[drowsy steeple]

I don't think this is optimal. the friendship loss would be huge

[woven tusk]

Joja route replaces it with the Joja logo surrounded by Js

[autumn cedar]

Spam click it

[golden pond]

Ah

[woven tusk]

I should add that it was co-op, and I was a Shepherd (the other player was the Artisan)

[drowsy steeple]

I wonder if you can get the cheating message from desert fest, legitimately

the threshold is 1000 egg level, without statues that's floor 5000

[reef prawn]

i dont even know how relationship effects pigs

[buoyant raven]

It costs $1,400 to keep a pig for winter

[twilit viper]

anyone having an issue on the new farm where after you upgrade your first coop fully, the second I've built wont upgrade, its not showing in robins shop as an upgrade option at all

[harsh bone]

just got all these from 1 pan :cereal:

[golden pond]

Yep

[twilit viper]

yep to me or something else?

[harsh bone]

u could do this pretty easily with a shitton of jade crystalariums no?

or is there not enough time in the day even if u spend it all using ladders

[drowsy steeple]

I didn't think even with that it was possible but now I'm looking at a video of someone here getting to floor 11187

[golden pond]

Oh no clue, I haven’t played on the new map yet

[stray swift]

fishmunk!!!!!!!!

refernece

[drowsy steeple]

i mean

[stray swift]

full iridium at about 5700 anyway

[drowsy steeple]

albino chipmunk: i made some staircases
CA: you must be using cheat engine

[golden pond]

I haven’t seen it yet but I assume its just a video of entirely staircase using

[brittle peak]

And you're gonna get it all right?

Because that's a lot of iridium

[stray swift]

no the run was just for depth

[dapper mica]

Does luck affect treasure totems?

Daily and item luck

[final jay]

Has anyone else had the problem where you drink coffee/or just exist then walk into a new area holding up/down and your character just glides without the walking animation

[harsh bone]

if my math is right thats just over 93 floors per 10 minutes of ingame time

[calm bobcat]

i cannot get woody's secret for the life of me

[harsh bone]

is that possible even if u use every ladder frame perfectly

[woven tusk]

For that old Mr. Qi scavenger hunt quest for the casino membership, was I allowed to put different qualities of beets into Lewis' fridge at once, or did it have to be 10 of the same quality

[broken portal]

i got mine after like 4 rows of trees in the desert

[calm bobcat]

omfg

[ember latch]

hm the geode breaker seems to have a nice bug It doesn't need a coal to break geodes

[bleak current]

different qualities has worked for me since it just takes from inventory rather than you actually placing them

[woven tusk]

Thanks!

[broken portal]

intentional

[golden pond]

Treasure totems just spawn dig spots

Dig spots are not affected by luck, so neither are treasure totems

[dapper mica]

Ah ok, not even item luck?

[ember latch]

but it said it needs coal when I don't have coal in inventory

[polar prism]

I found a Parrot Egg and it's cute how it perches on your shoulder when you stand still and occasionally makes noise!

[dapper mica]

I wish it gave more than a few cents of money

[broken portal]

wdym

[golden pond]

I dont think so, or at least the wiki doesn’t say so

[fading iron]

Chat, short question

[dapper mica]

Thanks

[fading iron]

Is anyone else semi disappointed by the masteries

[ember latch]

when I don't have any coal in inventory, the game tells me I need 1 coal to break a geode

[broken portal]

no

[broken portal]

it shouldnt?

[fading iron]

Some of them are cool but some of them are eh

[dapper mica]

I was expecting it to take longer

[broken portal]

theyre all good

[fading iron]

That too

[dapper mica]

But pretty much all of the additions are great imo

[drowsy steeple]

that was changed in 1.6

[dapper mica]

I found myself surprised how often I use the things it gave

Especially the scythe

[fading iron]

The miniforge is so expensive lmao

[ember latch]

I play on 1.6

[drowsy steeple]

hm let me check the code

[dapper mica]

What changed?

[drowsy steeple]

no longer requires coal

[broken portal]

geode crusher no longer requires coal

[dapper mica]

Holy shit that’s amazing

Well damn clint just got replaced for real

[broken portal]

still cant open mystery boxes or treasure troves though

[dapper mica]

Can they break coconuts or treasure troves

[broken portal]

nope

[dapper mica]

Ah ok

[bleak current]

Are you placing an actual "geode" item into it or trying to crack a coconut/trove/box? Because that error sometimes shows up in unintended spots when you are trying to put the wrong thing into a machine

[golden pond]

Eh, I find the Anvil more expensive. Iridium is easy to get in large amounts, iron isnt and you use it for basically every essential machine.

You can make an entire honey farm with what it takes to make an anvil

[woven tusk]

lol, Clint offers a complimentary partial refill of my watering can

[fading iron]

I have like billions of iron thanks to grinding coal early game with dust sprites

[stray swift]

fiahmunk is just kinda cracked, last time i played i was doing 75 per tick average

[atomic sand]

what are the benefits of key to the town w 24/7 access if the npcs leave their jobs still

[golden pond]

Fair enough

[fading iron]

Probably just adding the new maximum to the can

[harsh bone]

who can i sell wine to besides pierre

[ember latch]

okay... it's weird... Now I don't need coal anymore.
I crafted the geode breaker. Placed it, and when I have tryed to put the first geode (magma) in, it told me "you need 1 coal..." 😄

[fading iron]

Why would you wanna sell it to anyone else

[harsh bone]

cause its wednesday

and i need the money today

[woven tusk]

Probably! But it's very silly that it implies that Clint gets a mostly-empty can to upgrade and then mostly fills it when he gives it back

[fading iron]

Then you're screwed

[harsh bone]

fuck

[fading iron]

Should have finished the cc

[broken portal]

how do upgrades even work

is it just a coating?

[harsh bone]

its like some cosmic power forces any day where i need the money immediately to be wednesday

[golden pond]

Being able to enter houses after 9 pm

If you have marnie’s perk book, you can access her shop after 9 pm

You can go into willy’s house to go to ginger island after 9 pm

You can donate to the museum at any time because the museum guy never moves

You can enter houses before 9 am

[untold kiln]

so uhhhhh the prismatic butterfly blessing only seems to work for one person in a multiplayer save; both me and someone else can get that blessing but only he who did it first can find the butterfly; is that supposed to work like that or

[golden pond]

Well, I assume the butterfly just isnt in the same place for both players

[untold kiln]

thats what i assumed too but i searched just about all over town and couldnt find it at all so

[golden pond]

Did you check the secret woods

[untold kiln]

yes

[broken portal]

yes

i think so

[golden pond]

Ah

[broken portal]

maybe you both have to use the statue though?

[untold kiln]

we both did

[timid path]

random question but what is the chance of getting 2 sea jellies back to back with using fishing rod like not thrown out at all (the bobber landed 1 tile away from land)

[untold kiln]

he found in cindersap by sewers
i checked town, by CC, beach, secret woods, then eventually cindersap last and couldnt find that thing

[midnight knoll]

Higher than far away since trash boosts the chances of finding it

[weary rune]

Still trying to find out about the tickets for the thing in Lewis’ home😭

[golden pond]

Distance doesn’t really matter, its based on luck because jellies are technically on the trash table

[harsh bone]

moments before im about to commit a war crime

[timid path]

well i guess that explains it

just asking cause i got 2 back to back

[midnight knoll]

Still very rare

[bleak current]

in MP your butterfiles are generally in different locations

[fiery hinge]

He used enderchest to store all those rewards and a dispenser to spit it out + a hopper to get the tickets

[midnight knoll]

What crop produces the most items per day? Not gold, just crops

[weary rune]

Ohhhh

[fiery hinge]

uhm blue berries

or coffee bean?

[golden pond]

Definitely coffee

[woven tusk]

Depends if coffee bean counts as a crop for the purposes of what they're doing

I think it used to not count for Monoculture?

[midnight knoll]

It does, coffee works

[woven tusk]

Don't know whether it changed--

Well then

[golden pond]

Coffee beans count towards the Polyculture achievement which is 15 of each crop so I’d say so

strangely though, unmilled rice doesn’t count as a crop even though it technically meets the standard for being a crop

[midnight knoll]

Unmilled rice doesnt make as much as coffee though. Plus, for what im doing i need multiple harvests per crop

[golden pond]

Coffee plants regrow every 2 days which if you plant on spring 1, gives you 23 harvests.

Planting on summer 1 gives you 9 harvests

[midnight knoll]

They produce 4 beans a harvest

[golden pond]

yep

[woven tusk]

What was it you were up to, again?

[midnight knoll]

0% profit margin playthrough (everything sells for 1g)

[golden pond]

Im guessing playing on 0% profit margin

Guessed right lol

[woven tusk]

Oh.

That makes sense, then

[astral vine]

There is 0% profit margin?