archived-update-spoilers

[untold wave]

https://youtu.be/0RjEJADzDiA?si=ZencJahuH1S1DsJn

[gray oriole]

sir

you can't even get a fishing rod on day 1

[barren wing]

i think this might be the highest possible luck in the game

[untold wave]

not day one, but 1 day

[barren wing]

i got a magic candy, i got luck buff from statue

2 lucky rings on

its a perfect lucky day

[untold wave]

you forgot luck buff from desert festival

[barren wing]

TRUTHH

[gray oriole]

are you eating lucky lunch + ginger ale?

[barren wing]

i always get bad desert fest buffs tho

[gray oriole]

they're not rng...

[barren wing]

im eating magic candy + ginger ale

[untold wave]

you can pick

[gray oriole]

you always get the same result from the same food

[barren wing]

??

the desert festval food doesent stack with normal food

[gray oriole]

rare fruit always gives luck buff

[cloud oyster]

Yea with a very precise set up, including a gajillion fish ponds, so not happening spring yr 1 for sure

[gray oriole]

yes it does

its not a food buff

[barren wing]

UR JOKING

IG I NEVER TRYED TO STACK IT 😭

horrid

well, besides that

[untold wave]

[chilly bloom]

That’s actually not too bad for anyone. If you spend most of your time actively you’ll make more than that

Just don’t amble around and bother with stuff like gift giving

[mellow atlas]

Is there a list for every ingredient added up i need to cook every item?

[modern scroll]

Can you grow grass in the beach farm

[naive cape]

oh nice trader sells green tea on Lewis's birthday

[untold wave]

most likely one somewhere, look on reddit

[crimson halo]

another skirt and i dont get a fucking hat this time

[untold wave]

hat hunting too i see

[crimson halo]

im not

[untold wave]

6% chance for a unique hat each time if you have none of the 3

[bleak current]

i like this version. I'm sure there are others https://old.reddit.com/r/StardewValley/comments/olrmwy/visual_guide_for_cooking_ingredients_by_season/

[crimson halo]

its emilys stupid thing at the desert festivel

i forgot to say taht lol

[untold wave]

yea

there’s 3 hats that you can only get from that thing

[hazy prairie]

genuine question, why is shane still unemployed lmao?

[untold wave]

and it’s a ~6% chance each time, with 3 chances per year

[tough remnant]

Where would he get a job lol

[hazy prairie]

movie theatre

[tough remnant]

NGL Shane working there would suck since you can't just walk in lol

Also would mean no sad cashier girl

[mellow atlas]

where can i find the scholar question list for the answers?

[wide dagger]

LMAO basic bait for all that

thats hilarious

[tough remnant]

RIP, also golden chest is genuinely worse than regular chest unless you want something exclusive to the gold chests lol

Gold chest items aren't additional drops, they're a chance to replace other drops

[untold wave]

in order for the odds to be in your favor for getting just 1 of 3 of the exclusive hats from emily’s fashion thing you have to go to the desert festival for 4 years

[crimson halo]

thats sad

on that topic, should i get combat mastery or fishing mastery

[hazy prairie]

am i the only one that is just going to use basilisk paw for trinkets?

[crimson halo]

whats that

[barren wing]

dang this is the farthest ive ever gone

[hazy prairie]

gives you immunity to all debuffs

[barren wing]

and guess what, I didnt get a single a SINGLE auto petter

[untold wave]

^ after that it will take 6 years in order for the odds to be in your favor ot get the next one

[crimson halo]

[barren wing]

THATS SO REAL

no i just got so lucky

the starts alligned for me

[crimson halo]

i dont use bombs nor staircases tbf

[tough remnant]

You can get same effect with mermaid boots + an immunity band though

[crimson halo]

im too lazy to remember how to

[barren wing]

REAL i just use bombs

[tough remnant]

Or Squid Ink Ravioli

[hazy prairie]

yeah but that means I can get better defense boots tho

[drowsy steeple]

what do you spend calico eggs on

[crimson halo]

i wanna make explosive ammo but the coal farming is gonna kill me

should i get fishing or combat mastery

[drowsy steeple]

vincent sells clay for 1 egg that's amazing but he doesn't have unlimited supply

[untold wave]

then 12 for the next one

[hazy prairie]

are the hats any good?

[untold wave]

in order for the odds to be in your favor to get all 3 hats from emily’s fashion thingy it will take 22 years

[crimson halo]

fuck it we combat

[native rain]

I got an auto petter in my most recent run, I also had every single damn shaft be 3 or 4

Except for a 6

[untold wave]

i like the laurel wreath crown

[native rain]

I didn’t even want the petter I just need shards

[untold wave]

you can also get a joja cap

[drowsy steeple]

last run I got autopetter in spring when I didn't have any animals at all lol

[naive cape]

See expensive toy buy expensive toy

Gotta change my farm name cuz Im dumb someone gimme a farm name

[drowsy steeple]

Black cliff

[naive cape]

better than what Ive got

[gray oriole]

farm name

[mellow atlas]

West Farm

[native rain]

Jury Duty Farm

[untold wave]

my farm name is azurion

[mellow atlas]

And J3 Farm

[bleak garnet]

Guys

[mellow atlas]

Hunter Farm and also Vice Farm

[bleak garnet]

Guys I don't know I want to do perfection is and it feels like a fool's errand.

[native rain]

If you have money it got a little easier to get

[untold wave]

it costs 50 million

[native rain]

That’s not too much

[hazy prairie]

lol, killed a bat with my iridium scythe and got a prismatic shard

[native rain]

Especially in this economy

[native rain]

I need it

[naive cape]

Considering youll do stuff that reduces that 50m as you save up, it aint that bad

[mellow atlas]

Niceeeee

[native rain]

I was at 42 by the time I unlocked the tracker, I’m not buying any of em though

First perfection ought to be legit

[drowsy steeple]

what economy? a house is priced at 1700 pizza, assuming $10 a pizza that's $17k

[native rain]

The economy doesn’t exist you’re right

[naive cape]

Considering I play modded and stuff like SVE and Ridgeside adds more NPCs for perfection, theres some that Ill be willing to buy my way through

[wide dagger]

Skull cavern elevator is my life now 😭

[drowsy steeple]

wtf you can get egg rating in the mines

[barren wing]

😭

[somber sundial]

Was this added in 1.6? Because it’s really cute

[robust spoke]

getting better at pause buffering

floor 500 at 1 pm

[hazy prairie]

you also rock the paw?

[native rain]

I’ve never seen the appeal with the paw

I just run with the golden spur

It’s intoxicating

[robust spoke]

ye

[robust spoke]

not having to deal with slimes

[native rain]

I just one shot crit them and run off

[hazy prairie]

personally i think it would be nice because of the immunity debuff, and it allows you to swap for max defense boots

i think its very convenient

[gray oriole]

dragonglass shoes + basilisk is neat yeah

[native rain]

No debuffs is nice sure

But I like going fast

Always been a fan of crit builds

[robust spoke]

huh

[native rain]

Oh fancy

Also love the ice rod

It doesn’t even stop for anything it just goes

Anything in its path is frozen

Perfect for finding those little coal things in the ice caves

[tough remnant]

Sure, but you're sorta looking at the equivalent of +7 Defense for your trinket slot then. +2 for Dragonscale Boots instead of Mermaid Boots, and +5 for Crabshell Ring instead of Immunity Band.

I would submit that +7 Defense is a pretty weak trinket.

[hazy prairie]

i mean yeah

[native rain]

You can also just not get hit

[hazy prairie]

but to me none of the trinkets seem that useful passively speaking

[tough remnant]

What about the Prismatic Hair Gel? 😛

[hazy prairie]

like idk am I the only one that thinks that most of trinkets are slightly lame?

[native rain]

I love em so far

They’re just fun

[woven tusk]

Perfect Ice Rod stunlocks the enemy so there's that

[dim elbow]

parrots r cool

[woven tusk]

Feels a lot more valuable than taking ~7 less damage (from enemies that hit for 40+)

[hazy prairie]

like they look really cool

but parrot does not seem useful besides just having a buddy

like by the time you get the parrot I cant imagine money is an issue

[tough remnant]

Parrot is neat for the dumb possessed doll farm concept but otherwise I am personally unimpressed

[dim elbow]

yeah i just like carrying him everywhere i go

[tough remnant]

Fairy Box is actually useful IMO

Fairy Box makes Hungry Challenge way easier

[dim elbow]

i dont really use other trinkets honestly, prolly the quiver for skull cavern but thats it

[dim elbow]

true

[hazy prairie]

how is that?

[woven tusk]

It heals you.

[native rain]

Golden spur pairs really nicely with a crit build from experience

[hazy prairie]

wait nvm

[woven tusk]

...In a challenge where food is invalid.

[native rain]

It’s really good for the volcano

[hazy prairie]

forgot what challenge it was lmao

[astral vine]

it's qi walnut room challenge

[dim elbow]

i been waiting for the danger in the deep quest, 5m gold to go till golden clock n ill b 100%

[astral vine]

where you are not allowed to bring food

When you go to sc

[dim elbow]

at this rate ill get the perfection first smh

sux to have to wait for one week for a new quest

[tough remnant]

Magic Hair Gel best trinket though

[hazy prairie]

might get the frog tho

for giggles

[tough remnant]

Prismatic Frog close second

Prismatic Frog has the benefit that you can put it in a fish tank

[dim elbow]

theres no upgraded version of the frog right

[tough remnant]

Different colours

[dim elbow]

by using the anvil or how else

[tough remnant]

Yeah, whack your frog on an anvil and it changes colour

[native rain]

Please tell me you got roe

[dim elbow]

dang i never knew that

[hazy prairie]

they didnt get the chest lol

[native rain]

Oh right lmao

[tough remnant]

8 kinds of frog, so you can display in 2x Jungle Tank

[dim elbow]

i had the sewer legendary fish with chest, didnt get the roe 😦

[tough remnant]

Angler is a joke yeah

[native rain]

I wish I had known about legendary roe and challenge bait earlier

[dim elbow]

wottt i gotta stop throwing those away LOL nice lil collection

[native rain]

Would’ve gotten roe for each

[hazy prairie]

void frog lol

[dim elbow]

forreal

[native rain]

Having legend roe is cool sure but I want a collection

I want to feel powerful and rich

[dim elbow]

💀💀

[robust spoke]

not bad

[tough remnant]

If you want the ultimate Legendary collection, you need:

• Iridium Fish
• Iridium Smoked Fish
• Fish Roe
• No-Star Fish
• No-Star Smoked Fish
• Fish Bait

Panning

Fisher enchanted pan if you haven't caught the legendary yet

[native rain]

And aged roe

[dim elbow]

yeh theres a smol chance to get fish

[native rain]

You need two of each roe

[tough remnant]

Most of them

[astral vine]

Interesting

[hazy prairie]

but how would you even get multiple legend fish tho lmao

[tough remnant]

Good point

[tough remnant]

Challenge Bait

[native rain]

With difficulty

[tough remnant]

Plus Panning doesn't count as catching so you can do it as many times as you want

[hazy prairie]

infinite legend xd?

[native rain]

Carp

[tough remnant]

Mutant Carp and Crimsonfish

[astral vine]

It requires skill... whoa

[tough remnant]

No panning spots

You can actually pan in the beach during Night Market lol

[dim elbow]

like the submarine?

[tough remnant]

No

Not submarine, just the night market beach map itself

Has panning spots for some reason

[mighty sail]

If the update suddenly drops this week, best birthday gift.

[native rain]

They’re different maps probably

[dim elbow]

gotcha, never seen a spot before

[astral vine]

The only stuff i could pan during night market are ores...

[native rain]

The no panning thing just didn’t transfer

[tough remnant]

I mean, I'm guessing you had unenchanted pan, so all you could get was ores and luck ring

[astral vine]

what enchant do i need?

[tough remnant]

Fisher is the one that enables fish

But you still can't get Crimsonfish sadly, because no magic bait for pan

[mighty sail]

1.6, I primarily play on my Switch because I can bring it anywhere lol.

[native rain]

How does panning a fish even work, physically speaking

Does it just swim on into the pan?

[dim elbow]

the primitive way

[tough remnant]

You scooped it out of the water

[dim elbow]

glgl

[tough remnant]

It's like catching a fish with a really small and shitty net

[native rain]

A chub then

Chubs are stupid and I hate them

[tough remnant]

You can catch Octopus this way lol

Gold chest?

[dim elbow]

closest we will ever be

three contents no roe LOL

[native rain]

Yar har

[dim elbow]

bro coming in with full arsenal

[tough remnant]

Only Daily Luck

[gray oriole]

If you’re using blessing of water u can just use double treasure tackle

[tough remnant]

And yeah, Cork Bobber not really necessary IMO

[gray oriole]

Blessing nerfs even legend fish so hard u dont need anything else

[tough remnant]

Even without Blessing of Water

[gray oriole]

Theyre about as difficult as a chub

[tough remnant]

Angler is easy, Smooth behaviour is the ultimate nerf lol

[gray oriole]

Esp at that level of boosted fishing lvl where the bar is like half the height of the fishing ui

[tough remnant]

It's a slightly faster Tuna

No

Daily Luck affects some chest contents

But not most of them

[warped yew]

My Spouse: "How are we going to stay afloat this winter!"
We're at 7 million gold going for the golden clock, i think we'll be fine.

[vapid furnace]

I gave Jas a spare fairy box I had

[tough remnant]

Adorable

[vapid furnace]

Perfect range of reactions

[dapper python]

it's funny because she doesnt have any friend her age

no he doesnt count

he's annoying and he has cooties

[dim elbow]

he what now

[dapper python]

cooties are canon

[astral vine]

What about leo?

[dim elbow]

leo def has cooties

[dapper python]

ok leo counts

[drowsy steeple]

so if you get food from chef that gives +3 luck you have 20% chance for cave jellies?

[gray oriole]

On f100 yes theoretically

[tough remnant]

20% chance to get Jelly instead of trash, if you eat no other luck food

It's a bit lower overall since you can catch Lava Eels

[drowsy steeple]

what's the chance for sea jelly

I still don't know how to read Locations.xnb

[gray oriole]

18.92% might as well be 20%

[tough remnant]

Same as all jellies, it's 5% base if you fail all the fish checks, +5% per luck level

Best place to fish for it is pirate cove small ponds

[drowsy steeple]

I assure you not, that's specifically code for cave jelly on floor 100

[gray oriole]

That doesnt mean it cant be for other places too

[drowsy steeple]

pretty clear that's only for floor 100

the rest use the non-override code

[untold wave]

how do you access the code

i was trying earlier and unable to

[drowsy steeple]

ilspy on stardewvalley.exe

[tough remnant]

Hmm, lemme check then, I haven't looked at this myself and was going off secondhand info that seemed to check out

[untold wave]

thank you

[drowsy steeple]

sea jelly chance increases by 50% multiplicative, times luck level additively

but I still don't know the base chance

[tough remnant]

Well it's not in Fish.json lol

[drowsy steeple]

Locations.xnb

[tough remnant]

Fish.json is where bite chances are listed

Including for stuff like algae

That means it's part of the trash pool

[drowsy steeple]

oh it rolls after every fish has been ruled out?

then it's 10% to replace chance with additional 5% per luck

wait. then it also means that squid fest squid is part of the trash pool as well

[wooden sail]

[warped yew]

I gave Alex a spare parrot egg

and he asked me if he could eat it

[drowsy steeple]

alex tried to eat calico eggs too

[wooden sail]

i'm using the Prospector profession now (more coal), should i switch to Blacksmith (metal bars worth 50% more) or Gemologist (gems worth 30% more)?

[drowsy steeple]

blacksmith

iridium farming is pretty good

[wooden sail]

i'm not really doing that many skull cavern dives

[drowsy steeple]

gemologist then

crystalarium farm

[wooden sail]

yeah i think i'd rather go with crystalariums

[warped yew]

Truth be told prospector went from "eh there are better options" to "There is definitely better options" you got the dwarven statue, the coal nodes appearing in the quarry

[tough remnant]

Hmm, my xnb unpacker isn't working on that one for some reason. That's annoying.

[warped yew]

Theres no reason for anybody needing that much coal unless theyre santa.

[hidden ore]

the coal nodes are a great addition, love them a lot

[wooden sail]

i have like 300 coal right now so i should be good for a while

[hidden ore]

if you're making a beehouse empire you'd be amazed how fast you burn through stacks of coal

[wooden sail]

had a honey farm on my previous save

i don't think it's worth

it does earn some money

[warped yew]

if your making a bee house empire the real question is how big are you maple syrup reserves. i mean i guess you could use fairy dust but

[wooden sail]

but wine is just much better

[hidden ore]

it worked out well for me, just a lot of up front investment. ginger island bee house farm, the money really rolled in

[wooden sail]

that's exactly what i did

[hidden ore]

a lot less time intensive once set up than harvesting and kegging too

[wooden sail]

that was the layout i used (screenshot from internet)

[hidden ore]

now with the 1.6 update harvesting is not nearly as much of a chore of course

[drowsy steeple]

that shit makes me anxious, how do you get the beehouse near the flowers

[hidden ore]

I just did double rows with the flowers in the middle, I wasn't going for the "squeeze all the gold out of every tile" approach

[drowsy steeple]

3 cave jellies in 11 casts letsgoo

[somber sundial]

I’m still waiting for that strong wind storm… (I have greenhouse already)

[wooden sail]

you put your cursor in a precise spot and pray

[drowsy steeple]

I would faint

[wooden sail]

then you pick up the flower anyway and restart the day

[pine barn]

I have 25 hives. It's plenty

[warped yew]

You know, im just gonna be honest i know its probably better to have angler not pirate but i get so giddy for mystery boxes and treasure chests now i might have an addiction.

Like i know the loot isnt htat good as you proceed but i love rolling the dice

[tough remnant]

Huh, I'm not sure that bite chance is actually used at all anymore?

[plain flax]

The new fishing festivals kinda feel like Ape went "Hey the players arent fishing enough! I worked really hard on this! LETS MAKE THEM FISH!" :d

[tough remnant]

I think bite chance is now redundant

[pine barn]

Seeing as how I'm going for crab cakes this game, I actually went down the crab pot route

[tough remnant]

And catching odds are now entirely based on location

[gray oriole]

Fill inventory slots so u have no space for flowers

I grab outter honey and then split stack across inventory

[warped yew]

The New Fishing Festivals feel like Ape went "You know what would be cool, trying to get a bait maker before the festivals"

[drowsy steeple]

so how do you know which items go in the trash pool and what go in the fish loop?

[hidden ore]

I feel like a lot of new players don't really appreciate how much spending money they can get from fishing early game, so having the trout derby in there is a good way to incentivize folks

[drowsy steeple]

bait maker is ezpz i got mine day 6-7 i think

[plain flax]

Fishing is most worthwhile really-early-game like Spring 1.

But yeah sure it does add content variety.

[warped yew]

Do Smoked Fish benefit from Angler if they are artisan products now?

[plain flax]

Yes

They stack

[crimson halo]

i have a question for god

[warped yew]

hmmm im thinking for my next run to do riverlands i heard you can get like, a free smoker.

[crimson halo]

WHYYYYYYYYYYY

[drowsy steeple]

YES DO IT IT'S OP

[plain flax]

Basically you can have x2 (smoking) x2 (fishing professions) x1.40 (artisan).

Fish ends up worth something.

[drowsy steeple]

like 40k from spring catfishing OP

[warped yew]

riverlands is still kinda meh as a farm but the free smoker does sound nice. getting thatm uch coal early game doesnt but

[tough remnant]

I am unsure if any of my past knowledge on how fish catch is determined is still valid TBH.

[warped yew]

thats easier to get

[plain flax]

Yeah its a nice perk but its much needed because its not a map with a lot of land.

[fathom saffron]

I found a hopefully possible optimal mushroom log layout

https://www.reddit.com/r/StardewValley/comments/1buo3s5/layout_for_the_new_machine_in_16_because_i_havent/

it's the one in the comments by Its_pizza_time

[tough remnant]

Not optimal by far

But reasonably compact I guess

[fathom saffron]

easy to walk through hopefully

[drowsy steeple]

can you read GetFishFromLocationData bc I don't have any idea how to read it

[fathom saffron]

that's the main thing I want

if not I'll redo it again later

[plain flax]

Even before 1.6, powerfishing strategies could yield a few hundred K if you really optimize.

I thought it was the best way to start a game. I learned rushing skull caverns is better recently but I havent tried that yet.

[fathom saffron]

I'm thinking if I do like it I'll plant separate spots for the other trees

[drowsy steeple]

well I normally get 7.5k-10k doing that so multiply your few hundred K by 4

[plain flax]

I meant in spring y1, but sure, you can have some decent early money doing this.

[drowsy steeple]

summer could be even better than spring with sturgeon

I haven't gotten there yet I'm in spring 17

[wintry sleet]

Hello! Does anyone know if there is a way to stop regular trees (oak, maple) from turning into mossy trees (the green rain trees)? I like having trees in my farm but I don't like the green rain variants as much and it really bothers me that all my trees are slowly transforming uncontrollably

[warped yew]

how are you doing on coal reserves? do you smoke every fish early game or only smoke the largemouth bass?

[plain flax]

Winter 13 Y1 here. Total earning 3,216,822. I think its pretty damn good, but there was a guy trying to optimize a strat for half a billion in Y1, and I can never keep up with the REAL minmaxers.

Some people are crazy 😄

[drowsy steeple]

catfish and largemouth, buy wood from robin and make charcoal while you smoke

[warped yew]

how much wood do you buy on average

[drowsy steeple]

maybe 400 per fishing day

[warped yew]

interesting

[drowsy steeple]

that's pretty cheap for what it does

[warped yew]

no i believe you im just curious cuase i wanted to do a riverlands farm next.

[plain flax]

Y1 is about stocking up on cheap stores. I learned the hard way that buying Stone with late winter profits is at least as important as wood - at least if you wanna spam Crystallariums.

[robust spoke]

the deconstructor is your friend

[plain flax]

Plus Skull stairs.

[hidden ore]

the deconstructor takes a chunk of time to get though

[fickle knot]

Can it also convert the tapped ones?

[robust spoke]

you only need one

[hidden ore]

and that one requires ginger island, 100 walnuts and a qi quest before you can lay your hands on it

[plain flax]

Its good, but I meant that in a prior playthrough I got WAY too much wood and not enough stone with my massive profits.

[warped yew]

Theres a really weird like tipping point where you get stone much faster then you get wood and i don't know where it is..... Theres always a point where im like "Wow im basically set for wood and i have like zero stone" and then another where im like "Dang, i have like zero wood and so many stacks of stone.

[plain flax]

Pretty much.

[warped yew]

breaks out the tree fertilizer

[wooden sail]

so which mastery first?

[plain flax]

https://old.reddit.com/r/StardewValley/comments/b74x0r/y1_winter_28_robin_quintuples_her_prices_but_we/

Heres a post from 5 years ago where I was super proud of amassing that big 'strategic reserve'. Well, that was too much wood and far too little stone.

[warped yew]

Maybe its when you start making Kegs that stuff gets expensive on wood.

[hidden ore]

farming mastery will help you get the remaining xp faster

this assumes you harvest large fields of high value crops on a regular basis

[steep lagoon]

Does the /recountnuts exploit still work in 1.6?

Or did it ever work at all? Every game forum I've seen it has it rather downvoted for some reason

[wooden sail]

thanks

the iridium scythe looks epic

[hidden ore]

it is. no joke.

[warped yew]

I think the its probably Farming > Mining > Fishing > Foraging > Combat right?

[plain flax]

Its neat that Ape saw how popular 'harvest with scythe' type mods were and just made it a high end vanilla item.

[warped yew]

Now we wait for the tractor

[outer night]

Where do I get beet seeds?

[plain flax]

That would be too much

[warped yew]

we're never getting tractor

[hidden ore]

some folks might opt for combat sooner than in your list, really it depends, but farming is generally the first choice

[plain flax]

We shouldnt get the tractor in vanilla, its ridiculous. Kind of like full-blown Automate.

Some mods are just too much.

[fathom saffron]

I'd love just another 2 rows on my bag space

[plain flax]

1 more row would not be unwelcome, for sure.

[warped yew]

I could see maybe, UI stuff like being able to see how far a scarecrow goes. cause sometimes i cant tell if im just dumb or if ive managed to get it perfectly in.

[hidden ore]

I wind up using the layout planner to see about scarecrows and such

[fickle knot]

Sandy in the desert

[wintry sleet]

That was also my idea, to tap them all, but I'm early game and I don't have a lot of materials yet 😦

[drowsy steeple]

nobody told me desert festival chef isn't once per day

[hidden ore]

as often as you want. want a fishing buff dish for willy's challenge? go do that. now want to sc deep dive? get a meal for that. died down there and want to go back in? get another meal. etc.

[warped yew]

56+ Egg Rating still funny as all heck

[fickle knot]

Keep some acorns and plant them after you get tappers

[hidden ore]

you should be saving tree seeds anyways, eventually you'll likely redo the entire arrangement of trees on the farm

[tough remnant]

Yeah, I've parsed it out. It's more complicated now, but it does actually have the same effect for the most part, it's just been restructured quite heavily.

Also I now know where that "targeted bait multiplies bite chance by 1.66" thing on the wiki comes from

Turns out it does indeed do that

[hidden ore]

oh does it??

[tough remnant]

It also rolls for fish 3 times to see if it gets a hit

[drowsy steeple]

that wasn't there in 1.5?

[hidden ore]

I thought it was only twice (looping throught he fish list)

[tough remnant]

Targeted bait wasn't a thing in 1.5

[drowsy steeple]

I understood the loop but I couldn't figure out what's inside the loop

[drowsy steeple]

no i mean the three times roll

or is it just for targeted bait?

[tough remnant]

Oh you're right MB, misread a < as <=

[drowsy steeple]

oh you mean it's this part?
edit: that seems to be trash?

            {
                if (text == null || !(item3.QualifiedItemId != text) || num >= 2)
                {
                    return item3;
                }
                if (item == null)
                {
                    item = item3;
                }
                num++;
            }```

[wooden sail]

i just wanted to finish a delivery quest to Maru, i entered the clinic since she was at work and i got 3 heart events in a row

[tough remnant]

Trash is actually weird now

[still topaz]

Lol this happens to me all the time, I'm sure I've had other heart events out of sequence too

[tough remnant]

Basically, when building the list of possible fish to catch, it adds a single random trash item to the list, as far as I can tell

[drowsy steeple]

soo is sea/river jelly trash or fish

[tough remnant]

It's fish

Separate chance

That said, less fish in the pool the better

[drowsy steeple]

so let's say there's 3.0 chance worth of fish and 0.15 chance for jelly

does it mean there's a 15/315 chance for jelly?

[tough remnant]

Yes, that seems right

[drowsy steeple]

ok that's pretty abysmal

[tough remnant]

1/21

[drowsy steeple]

cave jelly seems so common in comparison

[tough remnant]

Cave Jelly actually has double checks I think

[drowsy steeple]

the floor 100 cave jelly code is set to override?

[drowsy steeple]

that's with +1 luck btw. base is 0.1

[tough remnant]

Wait no, just doublechecked, Mines 100 never calls the regular fishing check lol

[fathom saffron]

it's just so pretty ^_^

[tough remnant]

It rolls for lava eel, then rolls for jelly, then just spits out a random trash if those both fail

[drowsy steeple]

wait i don't think so

it rolls for lava eel, then rolls for jelly, then it uses the normal fishing data

[tough remnant]

It never gets to that

It always returns because it gets to base.getFish()

[crimson halo]

hell eyah

[drowsy steeple]

oh yep i'm dumb

[tough remnant]

Also targeted bait works completely differently in mines

[drowsy steeple]

yep

[sour phoenix]

Money crop?

[crimson halo]

strawbery

[drowsy steeple]

but floors 20(?) and 60 uses the location data, correct?

[robust spoke]

is geode farming still possible?

[tough remnant]

Yes, not sure if ice pip and stonefish actually appear there though

[robust spoke]

or was that changed in 1.6 as well?

[sour phoenix]

I think so

[drowsy steeple]

because it's rolled first before the location data

[tough remnant]

They do not

[tough remnant]

Yes but only for ghostfish vs algae vs trash

[drowsy steeple]

        {
            case 0:
            case 10:
                num += (double)(text2.Contains("Stonefish") ? 10 : 0);
                if (Game1.random.NextDouble() < 0.02 + 0.01 * num)
                {
                    text = "(O)158";
                }
                break;
            case 40:
                num += (double)(text2.Contains("Ice Pip") ? 10 : 0);
                if (Game1.random.NextDouble() < 0.015 + 0.009 * num)
                {
                    text = "(O)161";
                }
                break;
            case 80:
                num += (double)(text2.Contains("Lava Eel") ? 10 : 0);
                if (Game1.random.NextDouble() < 0.01 + 0.008 * num)
                {
                    text = "(O)162";
                }
                break;```

this one?

[sour phoenix]

wait what do you mean by day 31 Master Angler

[tough remnant]

Ice Pip and Stonefish aren't in Locations.xnb

[plain flax]

How is the profitability vs ancient fruits and a junimo hut in a 17*17 square?

[tough remnant]

I got Master Angler on Summer 3 Y1

[drowsy steeple]

well neither is lava eel (except for caldera)

[primal gate]

What's a nice rule of thumb for fish smokers? Only smoke fish worth 200gold above? For efficient coal ratio on profit

[drowsy steeple]

smoke above 150 and go descending from most expensive

[tough remnant]

Yeah, but it means that the "regular fishing check" for earlier mines levels is only in fact for ghostfish, algae and trash

Anyway, Mines 100 still best, because despite actually having a lower weight for cave jelly compared to upper levels, it has way less competition

Wait

[sour phoenix]

I am assuming your route was speedrun joja, speed run wall nutes for magic bait then fish

[tough remnant]

Yes

I have something I need to test

[sour phoenix]

What qi quest did you use for the gems

[tough remnant]

Because I think river jelly is super easy to cheese

[sour phoenix]

How so?

[tough remnant]

Extended Family

[tough remnant]

I'm gonna test first

[drowsy steeple]

test what

farm fishing?

[sour phoenix]

Makese sense,

[tough remnant]

But if I'm reading this right, I think you can get River Jelly from bottom pond in Desert

[sour phoenix]

Oop

[drowsy steeple]

there's a bottom pond?!

[tough remnant]

The one which has the fishing secret

[drowsy steeple]

anyway I fished in desert today and didn't get any river jellies

[tough remnant]

You can't catch regular fish there

[sour phoenix]

Can you catch trash?

[drowsy steeple]

wait how is trash chance calculated

[tough remnant]

All trash combined has a rating of 1

[drowsy steeple]

so river jellies are 1/11

nice

lolwut this time I fished 4 cave jellies out of 8 casts

[modern sorrel]

I love the fact that lava eel can give you cave jelly

Double with crackers

[tough remnant]

So far I'm at 60% River Jelly rate fishing in bottom pond in desert with +8 luck

[vapid furnace]

Here's a question I was thinking of for a while

Is there a Shadow Pendant thing for the Dwarf, or are they still just a shopkeep with a relationship meter for some reason

[robust spoke]

been spamming treasure totems at the mountains

and I havent gotten the 2 artifacts I need

therefore

I will now do geode farming and use the predictor

[drowsy steeple]

that doesn't add up. +8 luck is 0.5 while if trash is 1.0 like you say it should be 50/150 = 1/3

why would you ever need that many river jellies tho

[tough remnant]

I think if you fish in the right spot, you can literally only catch River Jelly or Pyramid Decal

[tough remnant]

Apparently that's just some locations it seems. In others, they just have trash as fallback if you fail to catch anything

[wooden oyster]

Wouldn’t be accessible early on though right? Because you need level 14 fishing.

[tough remnant]

I'm currently doing it with 11

[wooden oyster]

Oh sick! Thought we needed level 14 to access that pond.

[drowsy steeple]

but only some locations are hardcoded

i mean outside of Locations.xnb

[wooden sail]

if there was a competition for the worst looking house interior, i'd earn the gold medal

[wooden oyster]

Grabbing this for inspiration.

[plain flax]

Somehow most of the game I've had too many river ones, but the Sea ones caught up!

[woven tusk]

So a more thorough look at the fishing code has brought us new understanding of targeted bait and jelly rates?

[crimson halo]

beep beep

[tough remnant]

So the way I think this works is that it first rolls 10% for pyramid decal, then rolls (10+5xLuck)% for Jelly, and if both those fail you get trash

[drowsy steeple]

yeah totally useless information because river jelly sells for 200

[tough remnant]

IDK, maybe you want to make 100 smokers

[woven tusk]

...And also I have too many river jellies thanks to frenzied catfish&sturgeon fishing for money

[plain flax]

I wouldnt mind a large shed with 137 smokers but I WOULD mind having to fish 137 high value fish, so that wont happen haha.

[drowsy steeple]

and it takes 30 seconds iirc so you have to do that every 30 seconds

[woven tusk]

Smokers are done in an hour

You don't need 137 smokers for 137 fish

[wooden oyster]

How is luck% determined?

What does +8 equate to?

[woven tusk]

Luck buff

5×8%

[wooden oyster]

Oh ok so that simple.

[woven tusk]

Daily spirit luck does not seem to be part of it, only food/rings

[drowsy steeple]

don't rings add to daily luck?

[woven tusk]

No?

[wooden oyster]

Right yeah. Saw that in the wiki. After looking at some of the math, thought +8 required some kind of conversion to something.

[woven tusk]

Daily luck and luck buff actually have absolutely nothing to do with each other

[drowsy steeple]

oh ye i'm dumb

[fathom saffron]

whyy dried coconuts

[woven tusk]

...It never occurred to me to try it

[drowsy steeple]

how many smokers do i need for sturgeon fishing? 3 or 4?

[fathom saffron]

raccoon wants it

[woven tusk]

Oh. That's easy tho

[tough remnant]

Trash is a 2000 precedence (i.e. always last in the list) 100% chance with a random trash item

[wooden oyster]

Max 5. I wouldn’t make more than 5 smokers.

[fathom saffron]

I don't have many coconuts but tomorrow in game I shall go to the desert and try to get more

[woven tusk]

Sandy also literally sells coconuts on a certain day of the week IIRC

[drowsy steeple]

wait i thought precedence was obsolete

which file is this?

[tough remnant]

Precedence is in locations.xnb

[vast moth]

So anyone know for sure what the max level you can roll on the Fairy Box? I've seen 1-4 and while the Wiki says you can get 5, with the amount of rerolls I have done savescumming I thought I would ahve seen five by now

[woven tusk]

5 has been photographed, it's just rare as hell apparently

[drowsy steeple]

5, 6.75%

[woven tusk]

Parrot only goes to 4

[vast moth]

Speak of the devil, I finally rolled a level 5 in the Anvil >.,

No more save scumming needed now

[wooden oyster]

That’s some bad RNG if you’ve been restarting days and haven’t gotten it at 6.75%.

[woven tusk]

3.5sec cooldown on the heal at Lv5?

[bleak current]

it's less than 6.75% because that is only rolling after some of the things have already failed. It would be .55*.75*.875*.0675 to get it so ~2.4% chance

[wooden oyster]

Ahhh. Makes sense.

[drowsy steeple]

oh you're right the roll is independent

[tough remnant]

Also FishAreas for desert is bugged lol

[drowsy steeple]

I misread

[drowsy steeple]

how so

[vast moth]

All I know I'm glad is that I finally got a level 5 one

[tough remnant]

The top strip of catchable tiles in the bottom pond is part of the top pond

So you can catch sandfish/scorpion carp there but not pyramid decal

[wooden oyster]

So even level 4 would be .55 x .75 x .125

[bleak current]

yes. when I ran the numbers I got

* Fairy Box rolls level 1-5 with heal power and delay set by that level
 * Level 1 (33.6%) - power 80%, delay 4.7s [Example Generation Seed: 2]
 * Level 2 (45%) - power 90%, delay 4.4s [Example Generation Seed: 0]
 * Level 3 (13.8%) - power 100%, delay 4.1s [Example Generation Seed: 10]
 * Level 4 (5.2%) - power 110%, delay 3.8s [Example Generation Seed: 8]
 * Level 5 (2.4%) - power 120%, delay 3.5s [Example Generation Seed: 27]

[tough remnant]

Although this is strange. I went to go get some dressed spinners to speed things up, and now I'm getting tons of trash

[drowsy steeple]

spinners shouldn't affect what you catch?

[tough remnant]

As I said, strange

[vast moth]

RNG being RNG. Spinner just speeds up bite rate

On the subject of fishing rods, what is the best bobber combo for the Advanced Iridium rod? I currently have a Quality Bobber and Trap bobber on mine

[drowsy steeple]

I only use trap bobbers on especially hard fish like octopus or scorpion carp

[wooden oyster]

Kinda depends on what you’re aiming for.

[drowsy steeple]

wait, double dressed spinner sounds OP

[tough remnant]

Also, Daily Luck affects Woodskip chance

On the Forest Farm

Only there though

It's the only time daily luck affects fishing outcomes

[wooden oyster]

Often when I fish, it’s mostly to catch the fish I need for master angler. So I prefer treasure Hunter bobbers.

If I’m fishing the legendaries or octopus, trap.

Curiosity cork and dressed spinners have their uses too.

Quality, sonar, lead, and barbed hook are kinda useless IMO.

[drowsy steeple]

is the wiki wrong? spinners reduce the catch time by 5 secs while dressed reduce by 10

so 2 dressed spinners reduce by 20

that's 10 seconds, with level 10 fishing that's 7.5 seconds

with isFirstcast it's 5.625 seconds and with deluxe bait that's 1.856 seconds. and that's the maximum

[tough remnant]

Wait, jellies are seeded?

Sorta anyway

They use a seeded random function

[drowsy steeple]

which line

[tough remnant]

"UseFishCaughtSeededRandom": true from the location data

Which translates into if (spawn.UseFishCaughtSeededRandom) { if (!Utility.CreateRandom(Game1.uniqueIDForThisGame, player.stats.Get("PreciseFishCaught") * 859).NextBool(chance)) { continue; } }

[drowsy steeple]

true if big

so the xth fish you catch will be jellies

[tough remnant]

Only at a given luck level

[drowsy steeple]

yea

assuming same luck

[tough remnant]

And also, this is cursed seeding

Because the list is still shuffled

[drowsy steeple]

shuffled with nextDouble?

[tough remnant]

        orderby p.Precedence, Game1.random.Next()
        select p;```

I think you could make a really sketchy predictor for this, but it'd look something like "fish 5, 20, 23, 57, and 112 are possible jellies at +5 luck"

However they would only actually be jellies if you failed all fish checks ahead of the jelly on the list

[drowsy steeple]

can you clarify again where trash are fish and trash are trash

[tough remnant]

Look under default in locations.json

The entry with this: "Id": "(O)167|(O)168|(O)169|(O)170|(O)171|(O)172"

[drowsy steeple]

yep I'm here

[tough remnant]

That's basically how the trash fallback works. Default applies everywhere. If you fail to catch a fish, you will catch this.

Some locations have separate code creating more trash

[drowsy steeple]

this doesn't seem to be anywhere in the locations data

[tough remnant]

Fountain in town, for instance

But others are hardcoded

Like Mines 100

[drowsy steeple]

oh yea i see what you mean

[tough remnant]

RIP, can't get jellies from fountain fishing lol

Fountain fishing has a -10 precedence 100% wood or stone

Jelly is at 0 precedence

[drowsy steeple]

why do i still pay 500g for the bus when i'm the one driving

[astral vine]

because you will need to pay gas and since it's not your bus, you have to pay for renting it/using it.

[drowsy steeple]

implying pam didn't get paid for driving

ok this is ridiculous I casted 3 times and all 3 was cave jelly

[astral vine]

Maybe she only gets a portion and she would spend it all in the saloon. She doesnt even have enough money to buy her own house.

[drowsy steeple]

why drive at all then people still get to the desert without her

[astral vine]

The farmer will b the one spending money to build her a house and it's a whopping 500k and 950 wood

[outer night]

Was statue of perfection dupe patched in 1.6

??

[astral vine]

I think so. Some ppl were complaining about it here that the glitch doesnt work anymore.

[outer night]

Yea I think it has

[scarlet swan]

so for pam to get her own house she'd need to drive 1000 people over to the desert

and bribe the farmer with cheaper tickets to get the wood

[sharp slate]

mastery XP is way too easy to get with how much XP large crop fields give, especially if you start farming cuz the iridium scythe gives full xp

[tough remnant]

This is actually cursed. So far as I can tell, it's actually dependent on the number of actual fish caught. Not the number of things in general you've caught with a rod, but actual fish you've succeeded in catching with the minigame.

So stopping on a particular number of fish caught will give you a stupidly high jelly rate

While stopping on a different number of fish caught makes it impossible to get jellies

This is why I had such cursed luck on my second attempt at collecting stats, I didn't catch a random sandfish before starting on my second stat collecting exercise

[drowsy steeple]

interesting

[astral vine]

It's actually one of the community upgrades you need to purchase to make life in Pelican town better and easier, like a form of donation. So all expenses is on you.

[scarlet swan]

yeah i know, it's just pam would need to do that to get the house herself

[mortal drift]

Imagine how easily Lewis could allocate some of the town budget towards getting Pam a home

Now imagine how much money his "secret project" is worth

[tough remnant]

IDK, price of gold in SDV is comparable to the price of a meal

Wholesale price of gold ingots is comparable to a cup of artisanal coffee

[forest rover]

anyone seen how the horse turns into a missing texture if he's present in the desert event clothes changing scene?

[outer night]

Are you able to buy Hartwood?

Hardwood

[mellow atlas]

You can occasionally buy it from the traveling cart

[leaden obsidian]

Hey! does anyone know anything about the year 1 new dating dialog? I've been dating shane for a year, and i havent seen it. I want to trigger it without spoiling myself but I dont know how it happens. I waited till the next year at the specific day i started dating him, and nothing. Anyone know anything about this?? Spoilers for Abigail dating dialog

[outer night]

Ok thanks

[mellow atlas]

||I think it's small things because I also haven't seen Eliott say anything new much, it's mostly for the new festivals, reactions to different gifts and they also now react to events happening like green rain and stuff||

[mellow atlas]

||Also this looks like it's triggered by dating them for a year and not marrying Abigail yet, perhaps Shane says the same||

[plain flax]

Goddamn. "ConcernedforApe" is kind of a cheat username. I was gonna fall asleep. Now there's overcitement and stuff.

Well played!

[leaden obsidian]

I gotta say you had me at the first half too 🤣 thank you for replying!

[leaden obsidian]

||i have been dating for a year and nothing. I wonder if its random?||

[bleak current]

I think only some NPCs have that

[mellow atlas]

I think so, I Speedrun to marry Elliott so I'm not exactly sure

[mellow atlas]

doing some trolling

[sour phoenix]

Yeah everyone has dialogue for green rain tho no?

[mellow atlas]

Yup! I think that's one of the things in the new dialogue

I was scrambling tryna find Elliott's new lines

[sour phoenix]

Really? I though it was added in 1.5 lol

[mellow atlas]

Nahhh green rain was added in 1.6

[sour phoenix]

I know I was making a joke lol

[leaden obsidian]

I just checked and youre right. its only some bachelors like abigail and sebastian that have

[sour phoenix]

Also so many new hats in 1.6!

[sour phoenix]

Huh, how bizzare

[sour phoenix]

wait what are you using to look at this?

[leaden obsidian]

a friend of mine unpacks the games files thru stardewxnbhack

https://github.com/Pathoschild/StardewXnbHack

[drifting lava]

Does havesting crops with iridium scythe still give quality bonus from fertalizer

[high aurora]

don’t see why it shouldn’t

[sour phoenix]

I think it does

[civic axle]

is there a way to get the new rain

like the moss rain?

[uneven lake]

Only random once a year in summer.

[drifting lava]

cuz i tried it out on my ancient fruit that have the best fertalizer and i got one with no star...

[sour phoenix]

That could be just unlucky

[sour phoenix]

You can get it twice

I think

Don't quote me

[drifting lava]

I think i only can get silver andabove tho

[tough remnant]

No, exactly once

Never more, never less

[sour phoenix]

Which one where you using

[drifting lava]

idk i planted them along time ago

i reset the day ima check

[sour phoenix]

Wait what fertilzer did you use

[drifting lava]

idk lol

i just mined them again got 54 purple, 45 gold, and 17 silver

so i think i just might have missed a spot for fertalizer

[sour phoenix]

That might be it

[sour phoenix]

Iridium

[drifting lava]

yeah i didnt want to type it out tho

[tough remnant]

@drowsy steeple so I was a little wrong it turns out, but jelly randomisation is still cursed

The seeded random value for the jellies is progressed by actual fish and jellies

[drowsy steeple]

you should add all this to the wiki

at least under your user page

[drowsy steeple]

because jellies are fish

[tough remnant]

Ah, but you see

Algae aren't fish

[drowsy steeple]

that kinda works in our favor since the count doesn't change whether you get jellies or fish

and you get to the next jelly faster

[tough remnant]

No, you see this is cursed because it means that once your random value moves onto a failing number

It stays there as long as you keep catching trash, algae, or miscellaneous items

You have to go catch an actual fish somewhere to progress it again

This means you can't, for instance, grind out a bunch of river jellies in the desert after dark

Odds are you'll get a bunch in quick succession

And then you'll start getting trash and never stop getting trash

[drowsy steeple]

oh there goes your bottom pond farm

[tough remnant]

Yeah it's hilarious, it really helped me pin down what was happening and test hypothesis though

[woven tusk]

My suspicion is that you weren't unlucky but very lucky.
Ancient Fruit (and indeed every crop) has a tiiiiiiiny chance to give you an extra crop on harvest. Some crops do this at a higher and noticeable rate (e.g. potato) but every crop can do it.
Extra crops generated this way do not gain the benefit of fertilizer (and in fact I suspect they can only be normal quality)

[tough remnant]

I can extremely consistently get 5 jellies basically in a row there

[drowsy steeple]

you know what's also cursed? my riverland layout

[tough remnant]

And then I get trash and never stop getting trash even after 100 casts

And the way this works, trash is always at the bottom of the fish list

So if you ever get trash, that means your jelly value is wrong

[drowsy steeple]

oh that's an interesting conclusion

so you do max casts

in order to avoid trash

[woven tusk]

Deeply ironic that this wastes four sprinkler tiles but a quality sprinkler would only waste three

[tough remnant]

Nah, doesn't matter

[drowsy steeple]

thing is I already have sprinklers I won't use

[woven tusk]

Deconstructor time

[tough remnant]

Cast distance only ever affected trash rate because some fish have scaling bite chance with distance or minimum distance

[drowsy steeple]

spring 18 baby

[woven tusk]

Reach Ginger Island faster

[tough remnant]

The trash itself is just a fallback if your bite fails to catch a fish

[drowsy steeple]

CC route

[drowsy steeple]

but fish is better than trash

because it advances your value

[tough remnant]

Technically, optimal is actually short casts until you get trash

[woven tusk]

Invent a time machine

[tough remnant]

Then once you get trash, you do long casts to get a fish

[drowsy steeple]

that's called a bed

[tough remnant]

Then go back to short casts

Also, that bugged strip of water in desert bottom pond is incredibly useful lol

[drowsy steeple]

because you can get fish at the top

[tough remnant]

You go to desert bottom pond and cast holding down to hit the actual water

And you have 10% pyramid decal, 90% jelly, if your jelly RNG is correct

After a few casts, your jelly RNG will be wrong

Then you cast until you get fish from top strip

That advances the RNG again

Then you go back to the 90% jelly water

It's so cursed

[drowsy steeple]

we're doing pure math here

takes a lot of effort and no application whatsoever

[tough remnant]

This is an extremely efficient River Jelly farming strategy lol

[drowsy steeple]

until river jelly gets another use in 1.7

I dont see why

[woven tusk]

Now if there's a plan for sea jelly, then I'd be interested

[fallow basin]

fish only playthrough

[drowsy steeple]

yea sea jelly is my bottleneck

[restive raven]

Filling the desert with fish smokers

[tough remnant]

Yeah, sea jelly is hardest to get and doesn't have a dumb farming option lol

[woven tusk]

Still wouldn't need this trick for river jelly since you'd be catfishing in the spring and catching river jelly by accident

[untold wave]

fish pond

[drowsy steeple]

spring 18

[untold wave]

oh

[tough remnant]

Mines 100 is weird and works completely differently than other fishing areas

[untold wave]

throw a ancient doll in

[woven tusk]

...Which may be fortunate or else it'd never advance the Fish Caught RNG

[tough remnant]

Cave Jelly from Mines 100 doesn't use this weird seeding system

[stray swift]

just have the best remixed cc of your life ever

[tough remnant]

Then you have weird River Jelly farming strats in the desert

[drowsy steeple]

does the beach have any weird spots whatsoever

save for the crimsonfish one

[woven tusk]

Yeah there's a weird spot

It's to the north

A little cabin inhabited by the village idiot

[high aurora]

mean to him!!!

[tough remnant]

Beach has a few areas where you can actually stand on a fishable tile

[drowsy steeple]

doesn't seem that useful

[tough remnant]

It means you can get max fishing zone at level 0

Basically +1 cast distance

Anyway, using these new strats I developed, I was able to get 23 river jellies in about 5 minutes lol

Absolutely ridiculous that this works

[main fiber]

anyone knows what the mechanics of the "attack" innate enchantment are?

does it add a certain percentage or?

[mellow atlas]

I got that thing a couple days ago

[idle ledge]

istg EVERY SAVE I FORGET TO GET THIS FISH

dorado or something

[untold wave]

dorado is rough

summer in forest river

[idle ledge]

i forgor it existed ngl

oml i have to wait till summer? damn

[woven tusk]

Doesn't the trout derby happen there in the correct season

[untold wave]

magic bait if you have qi unlocked

[idle ledge]

true.... i dont tho yet LOL

we will see what comes first

[tough remnant]

Dorado is a classic

[untold wave]

good luck

[idle ledge]

ty!

[tough remnant]

Easiest fish to miss

[woven tusk]

Was it raining both days of the derby or did you just not go

[barren trellis]

Guys I need a favour, I don’t wanna spoil too much of the update, since I really enjoy discovering new stuff and I REFUSE to simply look up guides or read the change logs, but I am so stuck after finishing the mastery levels, I need a hint on what to do next without spoiling everything 😭

[untold wave]

do you have mastery unlocked

[idle ledge]

oh for this year? nadh i skipped it i already got all the prizes i wanted first year

[woven tusk]

Equip the lucky purple shorts as tackle to the iridium rod

[barren trellis]

I am lvl 5 already yes

[tough remnant]

That's kinda most of the content. This update didn't have a big new "story" section like 1.5

[untold wave]

have you found the cave?

[woven tusk]

Can't be Mastery 5 without getting there first

[idle ledge]

wait you can do that?

[tough remnant]

It was a bunch of new little gameplay systems that integrate with the rest of the game

[untold wave]

what’re they lookin for then

OHHH

i didn’t understand the question

[tough remnant]

Not like, post-perfection storyline

[barren trellis]

I am stuck with unlocking the new wallet items though

is it just grinding

[untold wave]

really up to you, i’m maximizing my profit and getting all the harts

[untold wave]

basically

do you have perfection?

[woven tusk]

Which ones?

[barren trellis]

okay fair

[untold wave]

no you don’t

[barren trellis]

no not yet

[untold wave]

just work towards perfection

[barren trellis]

[untold wave]

do you have Qi and ginger island unlocked

[barren trellis]

yas all done on there

[untold wave]

100%?

[woven tusk]

Do you mean the star-shaped ones or?

[barren trellis]

130/130 walnuts

[untold wave]

you can check perfection in the corner of the room

[barren trellis]

yesss

im on like 87% perfection

[woven tusk]

Go back to the cave

[untold wave]

those are the mastery perks

[woven tusk]

With each Mastery level you reached, you can choose one skill to gain Mastery in

You were meant to do this each time you filled the Mastery bar. Uh, oops

[barren trellis]

lmaoooo

okay I will go there then

thanks guyssss < 333

[untold wave]

i got fishing first, then got the iridium scythe and harvested my 624 ancient fruit and got the toehr 3 😭😭

[woven tusk]

I guess if you already filled it five times, you can go a little wild getting all five at once

[untold wave]

good luck 🫡

[barren trellis]

im not reading anymore I don’t want any more spoilers lmao

I really enjoy just messing around tbh

[woven tusk]

LEWIS IS SECRETLY LUIGI

HE DOESN'T MARRY MARNIE BECAUSE HE WOULD NEED TO TALK TO THE OLD MARINER FOR A MERMAID PENDANT, AND THE OLD MARINER IS RUMORED TO BE A GHOST. LUIGI IS TERRIFIED OF GHOSTS!

[barren trellis]

i knew that one already

try again!

[woven tusk]

USE A STAIRCASE IN LEWIS' BEDROOM FOR A HILARIOUS SECRET

[sour phoenix]

NOOOO

NOT THAT

[barren trellis]

the game was meant to be called Wario Valley not many people know about this..

[tough remnant]

Okay, there is a strat for Sea Jelly

Sea Jelly strat isn't as good as river jelly strat

[woven tusk]

I am listening!

[barren trellis]

strat for sea jelly: cry so much your salty tears make a sea of their own

[drowsy steeple]

oh my god look at =

it's spring fucking 18

[barren trellis]

what fishpond fishes give the jellies though?

[tough remnant]

Training Rod in the Beach during Summer, or on GI South. If your Jelly RNG is good, you will only get Seaweed or Sea Jelly. If you get trash, that means your Jelly RNG has gone bad, so you switch to a regular fishing rod to progress the Jelly RNG, catch a fish, then swap back to Training rod until you get trash again.

You want high luck because it will get you much longer streaks of good Jelly RNG on average

So yeah, there is actually a good way to farm Sea Jellies, and it's absolutely cursed and only makes sense because of code diving lol

[winter sable]

hi, does anyone know what this "slime slayer" enchantment means? I searched online and couldn't find anything ig it's just bonus damage against slime?

[mellow atlas]

would fruit trees need more space than the ones here?

[primal garnet]

Does training rod in the mines work for cave jelly? I find that to be the hardest one to get.

[woven tusk]

Acknowledged. Thanks!

[brittle sparrow]

Can I still use the parrot to get walnuts for me if I choosed CC and not Joja? Would it still appear?

[woven tusk]

Yeah

Trees need their 8 tiles of personal space, but fruit trees must also not have their personal space overlap with another tree's 8 tiles of personal space (including a normal tree)

[primal garnet]

Did we get new enchantments in 1.6? I don't remember slime slayer as an option at the forge.

[steady narwhal]

Slime slayer just makes it better against slimes. Similar to bug killer and Crusader. Defense is just adding defense

Each point reduces one point of damage taken

[arctic crest]

The one to the left of the volcano?

[woven tusk]

The new set is accessible with Dragon Teeth but only if the weapon has a listed level below 15 (including from other modifications)

[winter sable]

ooh okay thx !!

[drowsy steeple]

@tough remnant do you have a good way to search for variables within files? vscode with ilspy cannot do that for some reason

[brittle sparrow]

Ye that one

[arctic crest]

It's still there on my CC run I'm pr sure

[brittle sparrow]

Oh ok nice then 😄

[arctic crest]

I mean though, the walnuts aren't hard to gather with a guide though. Why do you wanna buy them?

[brittle sparrow]

Easier for me 🤣

[mellow atlas]

thank youu! so should be good now?

[arctic crest]

Just follow through this guide 🥹
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSg8eBIfmuk

[drowsy steeple]

didn't know skull cavern can drop lucky rings

[woven tusk]

Let's see, are those 2 tiles apart? It should work then

[primal garnet]

So anything short of an Infinity weapon can get new enchants? Sweet. I haven't seen anything about that yet.

[arctic crest]

You get them from crates and barrels. It's like a 2.2% or something

[steady narwhal]

Anything below level 15 and is not a galaxy/infinity weapon

[drowsy steeple]

dang i'm incredibly lucky

[woven tusk]

Dragontooth weapons gotta do it before any upgrades that raise their level to 15+ but yeah

[tough remnant]

Need to search from a different spot for assemblies annoyingly:

[drowsy steeple]

yeah same

you can only search within the file

[primal garnet]

Galaxy weapons start below 15 too tho, so are they eligible before forging also?

[tough remnant]

That search works generally

But it can only find declared items

No undeclared constants

So if there's just some hardcoded string, there's no way to search for everywhere that string is used

[drowsy steeple]

unlike with repos i can't see where a class is used

[tough remnant]

Yeah, I actually do most of my searching in a different program called AvaloniaILSpy, which has a really convenient analysis tool that tells you everything that uses a particular field or method or whatever, but is really buggy

So I tend to use it to find the relevant classes, then read those classes in VSCodium 😛

[lunar adder]

How do I get the good neighbours achievement? The raccoons have 4 kids and say they’re doing great

[terse hazel]

What is this?

[tough remnant]

Mystic Syrup

Requires Foraging mastery... or doing a bunch of raccoon quests and getting lucky

The final/repeatable raccoon quest has a 20% chance to give you the first unshipped item in your shipping collection that isn't Roe or non-syrup Artisan Goods

[drowsy steeple]

I still can't get over the fact that I got 141 iridium, red cabbage seeds, and 3 prismatic on a SC run with obsidian fucking edge

and a lucky ring

first ever serious SC dive that's not for collecting eggs

[terse hazel]

thanks. I had a bunch but never thought of shipping one lol

[drowsy steeple]

and three rain totems on spring!

catfish time

[tough remnant]

Damn, that's very nice

[drowsy steeple]

also decimated my coal supply on the way down

why didn't I get to lv 10 right away so I can sell iridium bars right away and buy coal from clint

[harsh plover]

Should you let animals out during green rain? Or does it function like regular rain and they don't go out anyway?

[modest cobalt]

Is this part of the update? what do i need to do?

[modest cobalt]

they stay in

[drowsy steeple]

https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Mastery_Cave

[harsh plover]

Max out all skills

[harsh plover]

Thank you

[civic axle]

does anyone know how i can farm fiber

[lunar adder]

Is there a place here to report new bugs?

[untold wave]

mystic syrup

[solemn haven]

Did you unlock fiber seed recipe? That's easiest way other wise floor 20 in the mines usually has decent weeds spawn

[lunar adder]

also the sewers has a lot

[supple jolt]

Green rain or fiber seeds yeah

[civic axle]

i got that but got no mix seeds 😭😭

[lunar adder]

i’ve noticed two bugs
1- trinkets are sometimes incorrectly displayed on the side when you pick them up (eg i had an ice rod and basilisk paw displayed as 2 ice rods)
2- villagers will cut down trees in town

[high aurora]

no the fiber crop doesn’t drop those

[lunar adder]

you need mixed seeds to make them

[tough remnant]

Depends on stage of the game.
Spamming floor 15 or 25 in mines works early.
Fibre Seeds once you have that option, but is generally not great because it takes time and space.
You can trade 5 Stone for 1 Fibre at the Desert Trader on Tuesdays, which works in a pinch on Y1 or if you have tons of excess stone from SC.
And once you have deconstructors, you can deconstruct Grass Starters from Pierre for 10 Fibre each.

[high aurora]

OHHH. i misinterpreted oops

[solemn haven]

Tilling/Bombing soil in mines

Have you unlocked GI? If so the boneyard

[modest cobalt]

The blue grass turns such a pretty color in the fall

[lusty pecan]

hmmmmmm

[shy bay]

Guys in scale of 1/10 how cool is the 1.6 update

[modest cobalt]

i havent experienced it all yet so i wont rate it

[high aurora]

like. 9/10

[lusty pecan]

i would say 9 :)

[shy bay]

same, mobile players waa

[modest cobalt]

I ain't even mobile i'm just slow lmao 😭

[shy bay]

Lmao 😭

[modest cobalt]

on my farms first year, fall
I got back into playin recently so I haven't gotten too far, but I'm on like every day

[shy bay]

mood

[vapid furnace]

... are you kidding me?

I stopped for a few hours to do some various things, threw an ice rod in the anvil on a whim, and got perfect

[untold wave]

DAMN

[mint aspen]

AYOO? ive never seen this before

[untold wave]

might have to reforge later

[uneven lake]

pain.

[stark glade]

think I have at least 17 of those in my chest

[drowsy steeple]

last run it was scapula for me

[uneven lake]

scapula was easy for me since I just spammed fairy dust on mystic tappers for treasure totems.

[stark glade]

the scapula and that fossil in the lower left were preventing me from getting the damn museum done

[drowsy steeple]

my last run was 1.5 haha

[uneven lake]

I somehow got 12 auto petters but still can't get this damned tail.

[stark glade]

🤨

[narrow lintel]

those who are in the USA or Canada, get hyped for the solar eclipse! but don’t forget to wear glasses or make a eclipse viewer! have a great day y’all!

[vapid furnace]

Legend 2 is on the line? Wrong! Lingcod!

[lunar adder]

how did you know I just caught a Lingcod thinking it was the legend II… are u stalking me…

anyways i got into bed and accidentally clicked on my cat when I meant to click on elliott and i was surprised when it appeared my sleeping husband threw a fish at me

[velvet epoch]

marriage goals

[vapid furnace]

... that actually caught me off guard.

The mystery one finally moved

[terse hazel]

I have full hearth with my pet turtle for a while but there were no gifts. Do they give anything when they are full and if so what do they give

[untold wave]

from what i’ve seen i’ve just gotten nautilus shells

[prisma stream]

https://prnt.sc/iWD5vG5jYnW1 yall does anyone know what these are and how to make them

ok idk if the image loaded rip

[west blade]

what do i do here

[tidal yacht]

go to the beach...?

[west blade]

i am there....

no cutscene no nothing

[tidal yacht]

oh is there a time limit maybe?

like "before 5 pm" or smth

[west blade]

no clue i just got that letter i am trying to figure it out

even talking to him is notihnhg

[tidal yacht]

check your quests (F key) i have a vague memory theres a time limit for it like you cant be too late in the day

[west blade]

nothing here too

[velvet epoch]

did they patch the secret woods chair thing? im using all my iron on kegs and sprinklers

[west blade]

when i googled it its just about the boat repair but i havent even completed the cc yet

so its not that