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PSA please don’t seed make your starfruit
how is seed makering starfruit more efficient
gonna be honest I stopped reading once I saw "using chatGPT"
Hmmm something doesn’t look right
im not being aggressive im asking questions
can you explain why seed makering sf is more efficient than just buying
you are just a hater, if you are not willing to read it and just keep doubting, thats on you
look no one is dissing the obvious large amount of work you did doing these numbers and writing it all up. we're just now figuring out how that applies to us, where there might be things to be tweaked, etc.
It’s not aggression, just making sure information is accurate… also you say factual but math = facts and I don’t see the math checking out this way
techically you dont spend money if you put starfruit in the seedmake
(119x4x4)x550x3x1.4 or
4,398,240g PER YEAR FROM ANCIENT FRUIT (FULL GREENHOUSE)
or
(180.3841x4)x750x3x1.4 or
2,272,839.66g PER YEAR FROM STARFRUIT (FULL GREENHOUSE)
where does 180.3841 come from
well you miss out on money that comes from not selling it
oh god math.
gonna be honest I just intuitively think this is wrong but I don't want to waste 2 hours of my life in an internet argument so I'll let the other people do the math for me

You spent 13 days to have that starfruit grow… just for another 13 days to grow another one? Doesn’t make sense even without the math
-shrug-
i think they are refering to the fact that they are using speedgro
what if i: bought all my starfruit seeds and wined all of my starfruit
i do not understand what you are talking about here
its not more efficient
That doesn’t matter lol. That starfruit you grew for that goes to wine instead of another starfruit growth
and 3.11 is a wrong number but thats a little less important than seed makering sf
greenhouse full of ancient fruit is the way to go, no need to micromanage 
im more referring to the fact that hyper speed gro is 8 days not 9 days regrowth
Using Hyper Speed-Gro, each starfruit takes 9 days to grow, for a monthly return of 3.11 starfruits per plot.
well you did
Me too buddy. I'm terrible at maths
i am not sure what you are saying here. i like ancient fruit better, if you like starfruit yay! but if you dont, i am not saying its wrong
i just dont get the seed makering bit
I’m saying you’re at a disadvantage when you seed maker starfruit. Ancient fruit you have no choice but seed making starfruit is quite literally crippling quicker profits
someone ping me when the discussion is over and there's a definite answer, cause i just started producing ancient seeds to fill up my greenhouse and now dont know if i should continue or not 
Probably lose profit if you seed maker. Got to account mixed seeds and random number of seeds given as well
might as well keep going
Ancient fruit is fine. This is more of a min max convo
only slightly better?
Hence why Starfruit mentioned
Whatever floats your boat. Ancient fruit if you don't want to put effort. Starfruit if you do
it ultimately goes to you, if you dont like harvesting the crops, ancient fruit is the way to go
Either crops are fine
can you redo the math buying all the seeds and using all the fruit into wine with 8 day harvest intervals?
i like this much better, if it floats your boat go for it, if it dont, dont sink others
what
can I ask if its really worth waiting for the ancient fruit wine to turn all the way to iridium?
both crops still give you money, you techically dont need that much money at the absolute end
can you stop like
I believe that what you buy there is time (you can wait a bunch for the iridium to be ready) and labour, but you don't make an increased profit
selling raw crops
i like big wiggly numbers, that's why im thinking of doing it once i get my wine production set up lmao
no
i regret casketing my wine
its taking so long
True, but all the sudden this argument happened. I don't have the full context of whatever happened because I was sleeping at that time and the showed calculations when they woke up, but I'm going to assume this happened when they said about seedmakering starfruit
Speaking without any math. Just saying. When you take a starfruit that’s already been grown for 9 days, you put that in a seed maker, then that’s another 9 days for another fruit to grow… you’re better off just buying the seed lol
is the ancient fruit vs starfruit debate still going on
So should I sell it raw or just turn it into wine and sell at basic quality?
yes....

nah its refering to a later convo that happened, this is basically just min max arguing which is eh, you know you get big money from both anyway
the problem happened when this stepped into minmax territory... they're pretty much equal when you factor effort and profit, but as soon as you try to say which one is "objectively" better between subjective choices, you get this kind of prolonged arguing over nothing
Casking at iridium takes 2 seasons and doubles its sell price. I'd rather sell it
what are you talking about here then
is way of the wind part 1 and 2 worh the money?
awesome thanks guys 🙂
yesss
starfruit wine does give a higher yeild but it takes a long time to get iridium quality
yes move speed is funny
You’re selling them anyway might as well age them. But it is a fair argument to just fill basement with more kegs anyway
so its honestly not worth it imo
Well before I slept this argument happened and then when I woke up they released some af vs sf calculation
I like the idea of not replanting haha
53% what
true its honestly up to everyones perferences
what is 53% meaning here
lmaooo same
starfruit... raw?
it was pretty wild, min maxing makes the game less fun for me so i just go for the lazy option
I just use starfruit
i tried to min max once and gave up spring 7 lmao
is 400/3150 not 12.7%?
bro i think you should start doing calculations if you dont get it
@mellow atlas you’re already cutting your losses with half anyway. Idk. I don’t get it
3150 being artisan price of starfruit wine
lmaooo same, i play for my beloved elliott so money is second
I guess some players like to accumulate extra money so they can do amusing things like filling a quarry full of statues of endless fortune 😄
mom at the easter table: don't get too min/maxed today
new-update-spoilers after a pint of pale ale:
In conclusion, the best crop is clearly sweet gem bc I said so 
lmao
sweet gem berry meta rise up

if only it were kegable
several people typing...
Happy Easter
I've always used it for my SC cave run farm
nOOO 😭
I'll probably do pigs next run, haven't tried that yet. done: ancient fruit, beehouses, starfruit
I was always SF greenhouse AF GI but now I’m doing SF all the way with the scythe
However, 51.2768% of your Starfruits must be placed into seed makers to be able to replant your field each harvest (this is approx 15g more efficient than buying more). This means only 48.7232% of your Starfruit will be able to be profited from, for a return of 180.3841 Starfruits per month.
No it doesn't. You just buy more seeds.
Seeds only cost 400g, which is way less than half the value of a starfruit wine
Here we go again
Hops?
I've always used starfruit
is that more cost efficient than using the seed maker, that's the question that needs to be resolved, OP said seed maker is better at 15g per seed, in the message you replied to
id rather have aperagos laughing at me because of my inability to catch river jelly than this topic coming back
Hops work too but very high maintenance and also they're a trellis. Maybe iridium scythe changes things
That’s 180 star fruits that could’ve been kegged earlier

awww I didn't laugh at you but the game, it trolls us so much... like, two weeks after I grew red cabbge, that's when it showed up in the travelling cart
It's waaaaay more efficient. Each starfruit, with Artisan and a sufficient number of kegs to make wine, sells for 3150g. Seeds cost 400g. Every starfruit that goes into the seedmaker loses you ~2350g compared to just buying
so I have only a handful of sea jelly but tons and tons of river jelly, why is that? because the game is a mega troll
Hops are actually the "best" crop in the game in terms of pure gold per day... but you have to spend so much time harvesting and processing them every day that it's absolutely not worth it IMO
Ur making a fuck load of money anyway why would you literally waste time
should i feel bad about sleeping away the days im cultivating my ancient fruit in? It's going to take so long to fill that thing fully 
some people sleep spam and prefer it, up to you honestly. me, I want to play through the days but that's how I like to play the game
What’s the g/d for a pale ale process?
damn accidentally leaked my message
teaser trailer
With iridium scythe I bet more could be harvested
Actually what's the range of iridium scythe?
you need a walkway between clumps for sure
Golden scythe vs scythe has a very very small range difference
starfruit wine w/ seed loss: 1850g (2750g w/ artisan)
ancient fruit wine: 1650g (2310g w/ artisan)
8 days for optimal starfruit (using hyper speed gro, no I did not calculate the price of radioactive ore because that's ridiculous, and a one time cost)
7 days for ancient fruit re-harvest (because that's what actually matters when you're minmaxing a greenhouse for profit)
Without Artisan:
235.7 (rounded to nearest tenth) g/d per ancient fruit wine
231.25 g/d per starfruit wine
WITH ARTISAN
330 g/d per ancient fruit wine
343.75 g/d per starfruit wine
the walkway could be ancient fruit or some other lucrative crop
Yes, but the trellis wasn't really the issue, the fact that you needed to harvest and process every single day was
You do until you get iridium scythe
Yeah that one hence why ancient fruit or starfruit better
even after. you need to be able to stand someplace to scythe a clump of them (3x3? whatever the reach is)
I've no clue on what it's reach is so
For greenhouse/island conditions, 420g/d
I need a tldr
- I'm not smart
ay should i sell carrots or eat them in mines
Ayyyyy
I remember iridium scythe potential being like 5x4
Or 3 idr
one puffer say: starfruit better than ancient fruit
other puffer say: no! ancient fruit is better than starfruit!
Well, I failed to get the blue grass starter before spring year 3.
give them to your horse? 😄
I never tried the horse thing OMG
Even with profession swapping to get the very most out of starfruit (Agriculturalist all the time other than selling days, which you switch to Artisan), Starfruit caps out at 393g/d
Bro these mystery boxes wtf 😭 I hit a single mystery box and it turned into 3 mystery boxes and inside one of those 3 mystery boxes was 2 mystery boxes and inside one of those 2 mystery boxes was another 3 mystery boxes 
Help
More stuff for you
Inception!
i love mystery boxes so much i found so much tasty food inside
Nesting doll ass boxes
first save I'm about to get perfection with no horse, no return scepter, no keys to the town, etc
I see I see
with this information, I shall plant a giant powdermelon 
the correct choice
How do you get keys to the town again?
Powdermelon does sound tasty tbh

Qi's walnut room
Seriously though, what use are the wild flower seeds? They're a nice idea but don't seem to have much practical use - yet
Man I really want to eat cantaloupe now...
Mm okay, haven't done ginger island yet
why does my wife have the goofy ahh sans undertale outfit
Growing flowers and challenges
have you seen the juicy fruit videos? the orange looking ones covered in this powder sugar type thing, thats how i imagine powdermelon to feel like
flower honey
But it's better to buy specific flower seeds for the best honey
idk it saved me money on buying flowers n i got fairy roses out of them for m bee house so 
if you know what the specific seeds look like you can ignore buying them in favor of using the mixed seeds to find the right one
Nah nope, but I've eaten cantaloupe irl before especially yubari king
one flower can give a lot of beehives honey anyways
it's not an amazing use, but it is there
cantaloupe looks yummy
Maybe I'll just spam them on my empty ginger island sprinklers and see what turns up. I have my beehive there already round some fairy roses
I just plant 1 flower for the entire season and get honey off it
They do and makes want to plant powdermelon
yummiest fruit right here
Mmm lemonstone
maybe I'll put some in garden pots and sprinkle them randomly around the gi farm for decor
didnt know cin is abigail
i looked back at this chat and almost had a heart attack
Aiming to marry Sebastian this play through. Sadly, winter stops one of the cut scenes from happening
Same. I've done Elliott, Abigal and Leah
same as you but swap Elliot for Haley
Not going to visit grandads shrine till after the wedding
Ha, Haley is the one I have the least hearts with
if only i coild choose a different npc to marry every save… but like.. some of the marriage candidates are genuinely not appealing to me at all
on this save she was one of the last to level up (last were leo, dwarf, krobus)
I avoid Alex and Haley
I would have a tough time choosing shane, so I feel ya
Linus is always my first to full hearts. He's so easy to give gifts to 😄
I just spam give Elliott salads cause all his gifts are so expensive 
i give everybody eggs
best floor to farm to find ectoplasm?
start on floor 50
thought ghosts start spawning at floor 71?
Nah
nice okay!
Much earlier
omg there's 2 cin's
50 for real yeah

This run I'm seeing how little I can visit SC and still get iridium.

im tired of having twins bruh lemme be my own person
Use the elevator, go to floors 55/65/75, pause do a quick check for a ghost on each floor and move on
So far I'm doing ok
Then take elevator back up to 0 and repeat
I can just go w my full name if it bothers u 
if you have good luck with meteorites, traveling cart, mystic nodes you might get ginger island unlocked and the good eval without even one run @pine barn
anyone have any tips on catching the glacier fish with the new bait?
If ur fine with fishing set up fish ponds with super cucumbs
I'm starting year 3 without a single meteorite. So far sources have been volcano mines, panning, omni geodes, and some monster drops.
ah the omnis, yeah that helps
I have. Only up to 4 cucumbers so far.
that reminds me I should really check on my sturgeons, they want something but I've been ignoring them since getting the roe 😛
They dead 💀
Yeah, I need to set up a sturgeon pond
no, but they want something, I never stopped to check after the diamond and pickles
But two more days and I'll have all I need for a gi obelisk
I wanna know what they need diamonds for 
got the teeth already?
I sell them
750g
But also, I'm thinking I'm not going to take this save all the way to 100%. I've now seen/experienced most of the new stuff I think
The fish :o? Or the diamonds?
gift for the missus 😛
The daimonds
I have lots of rabbit foot to gift people sooo
Yee, I usually sell or use them as gifts so I'm not jumping for joy at giving them to my fish 
Giving 1 or 2 isn't that much
every time I say that I wind up changing my mind halfway through, so I just planned for that in advance this time... 100% and then do what I like, heh
Which fish is it
do 2 of them increase my chances even more?
Ye it's not a lot, I'm just lazy and wanna go to the mines instead of fulfilling their requests 
I hear they do, and cork + trap is pretty dang good for sure
How do u specifically remove the 2nd tackle?? I never understood that?? 
Im not sure if same tackle stacks
Yeah, but 1.5 was huge. 1.6 is a lot of little things, so after a certain point it's like, why continue?
anyone have any tips on catching the glacier fish as a perfect catch?
Pray 
Cork and trap bobber, the usual food buffs, I guess. Oh the blessing helps too
But in all srs, I would 100% only attempt it on a day w/ the fishing blessing
Especially if you're trying to get a perfect catch
I have to see how I want the new farm layout to be after getting all the game tasks done. do I want blue grass everywhere? do I want the barn and coop where they are? only a tiny tree farm and no mushroom logs where should I put that? another fish pond would be nice for looks, etc...
😄 though maybe boredom will make ne continue? Got nothing else to do right now
if you have the statue of blessing, it can give you the fishing blessing which makes the first three fish you catch "easy" like carp easy. that would be my suggestion. other than that, two bobbers of your choice on the adv iridium rod, seafood pudding with qi seasoning, etc.
im using the quality one since im trying to get the best quality 
I've only ever bothered to catch them and not much else
I just saw my duckie hop into the water next to the starter coop in meadowland
this is the cutest thing i've ever seen 
A brief rundown of the top 10 crops in terms of pure profitability under ideal conditions (i.e. greenhouse or island, pre-established field for regrowth crops, field already covered in speedgro otherwise, etc.):
- Hops (Pale Ale) - 420g/d
- Starfruit (Wine) - 393g/d with HSG and Profession Swapping. Drops to 343g/d with no profession swapping
- Ancient Fruit (Wine) - 330g/d
- Sweet Gem Berry (Raw) - 212g/d with HSG, Agriculturalist, and eating +4 farming food before harvesting, and purchased seeds. Drops to 144g/d if using seedmaker to acquire seeds.
- Pineapple (Wine) - 180g/d
- Blueberries (Wine or Jelly) - 159g/d
- Cranberries (Wine) - 133g/d
- Pumpkin (Juice) - 130g/d with HSG + Profession Swapping. Drops to 112g/d with no profession swapping (Not accounting for giant crops, which are a major boost but difficult to calculate)
- Strawberries (Wine) - 129g/d
- Rhubarb (Wine) - 118g/d with HSG + Profession Swapping. Drops to 103g/d with no profession swapping
Starfruit makes more than ancient fruits??
Yes, but it's more effort
Oo
And only under ideal conditions
Ok
What about with the dehydrator?
Dehydrators are great earlygame because they process more crops at once
It dehydrates stuff
Are the pale ales aged
U can age them too?
Nothing aged, because you can only age a limited amount of stuff due to casks only working in cellar
i got it, i got the shrine for the eaiser catch, used regular seafoam pudding, had the quality and cork bobber on with the new bait
I’m writing all this down thank you
Unless it's an sve thing ya
Learnt new thing today woa
was it one of the first three fish??
smoke it
see the reason I can appreciate these calcs compared to the other guy is because they're concise and to the point
It was the 3rd one
Ageing tends to benefit starfruit wine the most, but regardless, you can only age a fraction of the booze you produce, whereas you can turn all crops into at least base quality booze no matter how fast you make them
awesome! good job
So it's usually ignored for g/d calculations
turn it into sashimi
I'm still using my dehydrators on fruit trees.
also yeah, it's always fun to remember hops are technically the best crop in terms of g/d but they're so impractical that starfruit/ancient fruit win
And strawberries
would you be willing to write out the methodology behind the calculations, @tough remnant (unless you've done that somewhere else a while back and can just link)?
wait whats this blue bag thingy?
and how do you have an extra slot?
is it a mod?
i got paw yummy
it should be fairly simple, unless I'm dumb:
( sell value / days to grow ) - seed cost
"trinket", new in 1.6, check the wiki for more if you like. useful in combat situations
oh is it a trinket, I see
I got the parrot as my first trinket. Its been great
congrats time to stack defense lol
I knew the addition of trinkets but didnt expect it to look like this lol
Anyone know how to get iridium cats and dogs yet
The only trinket I’m missing is the ice rod (and most of the frog colors, I rerolled till I got prismatic and void)
You can anvil frog trinket?
oh, which colours are good frog colours? I was a bit bewildered by that
They are strictly cosmetic
oh! are there levels like the other trinkets?
nope
New easiest strat, which is much easier now than it used to be:
Advanced Iridium Rod with 2 Cork Bobbers, plus Deluxe Bait (or Challenge Bait if you're going for the triple)
Master enchantment
Qi Seasoned Seafoam Pudding (bring several)
Statue of Blessings
Actual strategy is to basically prep everything in advance the day before, then wait for a Blessing of Waters day from the statue. Then you chug some coffee, get on your horse and leg it down to the spot. Cancel all fish that aren't Glacierfish, and cancel out of Glacierfish too if you make a mistake. When it gets late, or if you accidentally catch an imperfect glacierfish, reset the day and try again.
But to my knowledge you have, red, yellow, brown, green, blue-green, prismatic and void
I also got the jack be nimble, jack be thick book by hoeing the ground randomly
nice, congrats
with my setup + prismatic candy I was taking 2 damage from serpents lol
was practically immune to mega bombs
how can you tell which fish is not the glacier, if you are using not the sonar bobber and the first three fish are going to act like carp?
The formula is dead simple - (Final Sell Price * Average Crops per Harvest - Recurring Seed Costs)/Harvest Period
Glacierfish has a crown
All legendary fish icons have a crown
Glacier has a crown on lil fishie
oh, visibly look. duh 😄 sorry!
Oh yeah Sicarious have you caught an iridium goby yet?
oh wowww
Well without quality bobber ofc
Not without quality bobber
Haven't been working on that
How exactly do you even catch a goby, I’ve read that the wiki says cindersap waterfall but I’m unsure on exactly which tiles
Waterfall near hat mouse
I fished at the base of the waterfall and got it
The tiny area between the upper and lower waterfalls at the bottom of the map
I thought so, what’s the chance of it showing up I’m guessing I just got super unlucky
yep, cindersap waterfall, they're not the most common but aren't too rare either
took me a little bit to catch one
I didn't see it at all the first day, when I went back I got it partway through the day
why does the woodcutter weekly skill book not show up here even when consumed?
aah 😯
Does the cooking book show up or no
thank you!
queen of sauce is not a permanent effect book
Had to actually check but no
Cool, I don’t need to buy it then
It does count for Well-Read I believe
queen of sauce book isnt required
you are required to get all the cooking recipies for perfection though
regardless of how you get the recipies
Queen of sauce book essentially allows all recipes to be learnt Y1
A casual Perfection run is still not possible Y1 tho because of Kent
yes
theoretically you could do perfection really early in Y2, but you would need a bunch of stardrop teas
id love to see what the routing would even look like for such a run
Alright I tried doing goby no quality bobber and it seems like max is gold
You'd be spending a lot of time fishing with fishing mastery and pirate TBH
can you even finish all the special order quests by the end of Y1?
This was with 16 fishing?
SC statues yeah
With Calico festival you can combine ingredients for a dish from the man who is willing to prepare food for you
If I remember the dish he prepares does not override the food buffs you had
If those stack and you can get 19 fishing... I'm not sure if that will actually enable base gold quality
I'd need to check the code, and I'm currently reverted to 1.5 so I can't do that easily
I don't know if there is a fishing zero 1 in the waterfall, but there could be
I'm casting at the middle of the waterfall pond
I wonder if out of bounds exploits would help lol
Doing the math:
Assuming you gift Kent a Stardrop Tea every single day from Spring Y2
+250 friendship points every day for a week = 1050 points
Every week amounting to daily talking for seven days (+20, total +140) and gifting twice with iridium loved gift (+240, +10 points after the week ends if you gift Kent 2 gifts so +250) = +370 per week
1050 + 370 = 1420 per week
Giving Kent daily Stardrop Tea the next week + talking twice is enough for 1090 points, amounting to a grant total of 2510 points, 10 points over max hearts
So the minimum time to acquire Perfection in a casual run is Spring 14, Y2
theres no limit on how many star drop teas you can give per day iirc
You can gift many stardrop teas per day
Spring 1 Y2 it is
does he give you a crafting recipe?
Cooking IIRC
Maybe?
Yeah, Crispy Bass and Super Meal recipes are only attainable Spring 2 Y2
And then summit is Spring 3
Forgot to mention even when fishing at the middle, there's inconsistencies with quality
Sometimes its a silver (gold with perfect catches) or no quality at all
Goby is just going to be harder for iridum without quality bobber
Yeah that's expected for Fishing Zone 1
Yeah
do rings with special effects stack? stuff like crabshell, immunity, luck, burglar, etc.
I would assume the ones like shell that are +stat stack, but not burglar
Correct
how long does mystic tree grow for?
well, good to know I wasn't wrong in double stacking lucky rings lol
Ok yeah you're going to need the desert festival for that shrimp dish
It's a +3 fishing from the chef's dish if you go for shrimp
So 19 fishing levels
And that stacks with seafoam pudding?
Yep
I just dropped an auto petter from the starred slimes in the qi regular mines
family ❤️
Nice
602 slime from this
nice kitchen
whats the deal with the prize ticket machine?
is it seeded or is it always the same?
ty ❤️
The first 22 prizes are all either fixed or "fixed pool"
After that, it's random from nine pools
...At least, that's the impression I got from reading its wiki page
if I ever adopt I'm gonna have to move the wine table lol
what the hell :[ both sam and leah just came to me and told me to meet them at 4 for their heart events
The second prize is always a peach or orange sapling, for example, so there's a big incentive to do Help Wanted quests in the first spring
is it worth to buy books i read to increase exp in all areas?
i wanna visit both, stop making me choose
So you can get a summer tree sapling in time for summer, if you have the Artisan Bundle in the CC
if you really need the XP, I suppose, I wouldn't bother though
Time for sitcom double date shenanigans
i didnt even know it was possible to have them on the same day
i am very scared
Nah don't worry that just mean you'll get the new raccoon quest
i think so
I don't think so
wait how did you get the mats there?
💀💀💀 lmaoooo
ohh I figured it out, apparently one of the tiles isn't valid but the others are
weird, probably spouse pathing or something
Yes
Books no but recipes yes
That makes getting Y1 perfection now so much more difficult
Y1? You couldn’t even get it til y2 technically
You can't put anything in the cooking spot
ohhh ok ty HAHHA THE NOISE SCARED ME
yeah... it's annoying
slowly starting to fill in 
Well the earliest now would be Y2 spring 3 I think assuming you had enough star drop teas for Kent and got lucky with him mailing you cooking recipes
No I’m talking about 1.5.6’s cooking requirements
Shrimp cocktail isn’t learnable until winter 28 y2
You can buy the queen of sauce book
1.5.6
You meant 1.5.6 from this or 1.6?
Why would I be talking about 1.5.6
There's no masteries in 1.5
yes 😛
Where to easily find cave jelly?
Floor 100
This is SOOO cute omg
Lava eel ponds
ty ❤️
those areas you can but not the one where seb is standing they are from the junimo catalouge

Mmm sadly i dont have space in my farm anymore.
Nah fishing is much better for cave jelly
River/sea jelly though are good for fishponds
Unless you're the kind of person who's actually farming lava eels to sell their roe
That's me
I sell their aged roe though

Roe farming but also reliable passive source of spicy eel
does the racoon quesst every finish
I think it does when u give him a smoked ghost fish
tututu utututu 
he asked me for smoked bream and 5 crayfish
Greedy raccoon
Tbh fishponds make such little money compared to ancient fruit that I wouldn't bother with them unless the fish gave me an item that want
I don't like raccoons
very
Which is why I have 13 stingray ponds on my farm for those cinder shards
which reminds me i need to check the trash panda i forget what he wanted
Ice cream 
Fried eggs

i think it was fruit salad
guys yesterday happened something with me and I came to the wiki to see if I found information about that but I haven't, when I went to collect my truffles one was with a crab below, I have never seen that, and when I slayed it, it dropped me 3 truffles and 1 truffle oil
I don't know if the truffle was of the other day and I slept and left it there
I don't remember having to give that tho
Crab truffle
yeah
If you have a picture, you can upload the photo here #images-and-memes
You're not the first person to talk about the crab truffle
I sent
outfit ratings?
1st: Spring/Summer
2nd: Fall/Winter
3rd: Rain
I like the first one
I think it's an easter egg
I was surprised because it dropped a lot of truffles hahahaha
but here is an info in the wiki, i found:
I love the rain one
but there is no mention to it in the truffle page, right?
I just found 13 coral on the beach in one day wtf
Has anyone ever done the math for money per tile when it comes to fishponds/animals
I found 9 yesterday, i have the same reaction
I wonder if ostriches or gold chickens are worth more
first is my favorite too
Yea, it's a separate page... it's called a truffle crab
I like it but I wish the rain coat were a little longer/more detailed
make sense, tnks
The rain outfit is super cute!
should i buy mega bombs or explosive ammo
But don't you just.. fish out the lava eels? That's what happened when I tried
Explosive ammo
ooh I really like that first hat, where do you get it and is it dyeable?
U can buy it from the hat mouse
which achievement is it from?
SDV too relaxing, nearly fell asleep while playing
I personally prefer mega bombs but if you are good at using slingshots explosive ammos are usually recommended for mining.
honestly I recommend both, mega bombs for huge clusters away from walls, and the slingshot for small clusters near walls or enemies
I think mega bombs are probably the most helpful overall though
do u guys know when it’s the new year festival??
There is no new year festival
It was a few things from the new update, but the post was made for new years

That was just a post not something in the game
no clue
gifts from pierre and demetrius back to back on christmas... I have terrible gift luck ever since Leah gave me a gift a week after marriage
Can you let me know pls lol 😭
had to give clint a gift this year too
oh a glow ring, that would've been cool 4 years ago
nearly there ❤️
coffee is mor worth to sell if I get silver or gold star right? and just make coffee with the normal ones?
I don’t think quality effects the price all that much but you don’t get many of them to begin with so idk
I just need the red cabbage for the center, why this have to take so long to get
You can use all qualities
To make coffee
Pam EXCUSE ME?
hahahahahahaha
It’s a miracle no one just steals the bus
HELLO? 😭
Oh I didn’t read the sign lol
is that a mod or just how the female hair works?
cause with the male hairs
hats just delete your hair
shit just noticed im very broke
you should click that junimo
does clicking it do something?
it may or may not
chuckles I'm in danger
You gotta do the QuickTime event or she just stabs you
Why does my phone capitalize QuickTime
@tough remnant Caught an iridium chub from that waterfall pond, but it's quite rare. Also edited my save file just to do this
what does an iridium pan do
Aight getting my original save file back
More items from panning
I caught the goby on my first try and then never bothered to catch one again
Iridium goby without quality bobber possible
man if there was an option to skip time in stardew, well that certainly would get a squeaking sound out of me
makes panning actually useful, got a lucky ring within a few days of making one lol
I don’t get why CA added one new fish and it’s just in one specific spot and isn’t worth much
eh, cause it's neat
Very nice, that'll also be best way to get max length
I did not catch a goby, but it's possible as from iridium chub
But it is quite rare
Also yes desert festival buffs and food buffs are separate
Should also mention this tbh but I just edited my save file's season and date just for some goby. That's it. No other modifications just the date and season
i need 8 hearts to be able to propose to a bachelor/ette right?
Yes
gr8
ooooomg that was so cute tyyyy
You need 8 hearts to give a bouquet and then 10 to marry
can i buy a bouquet ANYWHERE else than at Pierre's?
Nope, you have to give him money this time
You have to go, Haley.
omg the waterfall adds so much to the feel of the event?? i love it
fr
i wish i could get one from granny Evelyn

Gold chickens are worth way more. Ostriches are worth about 75k per year, gold chickens are worth about 135k per year. Incidentally, with Shepherd, happy sheep are also worth about 135k per year, assuming you turn all wool into cloth and switch to artisan before selling.
Doesn’t that mean they’re worth like 125k because you need to swap perks?
Per tile gold chickens obviously win
you can't use geode crusher on mystery box?
how do you even get better pans?
That's per animal, so unless you only have one animal, no.
Where do you get gold chickens again
upgrade them the same way any tool
thank you!
You bring a pan to Clint and 5 bars of the next tier
You need to get perfection
So copper pan to steel pan requires 5 iron bars and a copper pan
Ugh, long way off
buy them after achieving perfection

Perfection
I find it so funny that instead of changing Marnies schedule they just make a book to ignore her
haley W
book?
Marnie sells a book that lets you shop at her house when she isn’t there
She is almost never there it pisses me off
honestly, I rarely have marnie not show up at the ranch
then again I almost never go there lol
Also I’m pretty sure they rearranged her kitchen so instead of staring at the microwave she’s using a cutting board
does spirit luck affect seedmaker yields?
Btw pigs are still the best profit if they're happy, but sheep with golden animal crackers are pretty close and way more passive to get that money.
Hello again fellow Stardews, when farming golden eggs, what do you do with them? Sell as is or something else?
incubate one to get a golden chicken
Sell iridium, make mayo with all other golden eggs
I don't know why it has never occured to me to shove tree taps onto the uncuttable trees in town
hello how do you add the spoiler tag ?
I don't think we could before 1.6
mmmm money
oh? this is a new function then?
dear god was that all one batch or did you stockpile for the screenshot?
I don’t think the trees in town were considered trees until this update
its about 800 per harvest
And does 1.6 add the ability for pig to search truffles during winter ?
fall year 2 btw lmao
I see, I feel less bad then thanks
I stockpile mine
yuh
And will be stockpiling more
👀
Im pretty sure pigs can search for truffles before 1.6
Not during winter
Do y'all sell your excess iridium?
well i wouldnt want to search for truffles the whole day when its winter, its hecking cold
Animals dont leave their coop or barn during winter
I'm guessing that is why the person asked..? xd
I hoard my iridium ores
thanks i know that mean it's a mod doing thank you
Do pigs dig more truffles when you’re on the farm?
wdym excess? there is never enough
I had 89 iridium bars and nothing useful to use them on :(
So I sold 39 of them
There can never be enough sprinklers
There's a point where you have full map coverage soooo
reforge trinkets for no real purpose, use ore to buy bombs from the desert trader, use ore for deluxe scarecrows and bars for deluxe fertilizer
there is never enough
also the money makes the brain happy, I have 1k+ ore and counting
I wasted a few irdium bars by reforging trinkets...
hoarding
sleep talking
I’ve been using a level 4 parrot trinket and I get like 250 gold per coin it’s insane
Oh right, I forgot about the deluxe stuff. Still waiting on a couple items for the CC
i don't think so i'm using increase more animal barn
fair, also deluxe fertilizer is worse than hyper speed gro if you have the processing power to handle all the crops
HUUH whats the chance of seedmaker producing mixed seeds? first time it happened to me
but you would need multiple sheds of kegs
my ancient fruit 
Pretty small
Iridium Crops > Faster Crops
I use a mod that makes artisan goods use input quality so it makes processing quality goods very profitable
Feels like a weird argument to say that it’s better to use one thing because of a mod
Even without the mod I prefer iridium crops
well yes in that case deluxe would be better
They sell for more when you have too much
Getting a gold quality wine from a gold starfruit is insane
That seems like way too much cheating for me
Completely nullifies casks
Wtf is that statue
Must have been lightning
In spring sunny?
??HMTGF??
That’s summer
I'm blind
abigail give me your teeth I wanna use them for slingshot ammo and see how much damage they deal
The thing about singleplayer games is that you decide what's cheating for you. idgaf about balance unless it enhances my fun.
I want a mod like that but it only effects animal products
I made one that can be configured to do so.
Just remove the other artisan machines from the list
Ducks are so useless because their mayo can’t be worth that much
what are the question marks on the dialogue boxes for?
so speed-gro doesnt influence the regrowth timer of ancient fruit, right?
thats good cause i just noticed i didnt use speed gro on every tile
at least now im 100% sure it'll normalize when theyre all grown
HEY don't say that about my little goobers, they swim in the water and make perfect fodder for my farmer's lunch
fodder? wouldnt a duck be a main part of a dish?

Mine don't swim 😔
UNFORTUNATELY???
imagine buying a pig from marnie and being able to gift her raw porkchop a few weeks later
There's the Animal Husbandry mod that lets you butcher stuff
Even uses meat sprites that CA left in the game
i got 2 hearts with caroline on sumemr day 14
is that good or too late
for profit
Anyone else disliking Alex being the trashcan police? Who is he to disturb my bargain-hunting
Who do I give the animal cracker to first?
wait no its 3 hearts 
That would be hilarious
question can you obtain all the rewards in farming mastery and the others?
wait nevermind
Yep
profit-wise, a sheep
real answer, your favorite animal
What do sheep give me again, just cloth? Been a while since I played and I have like 2 sheep I think
guys guys is getting caroline to 2 hearts on summer 14 too late fo profit
no
also i heard the nerfed the green ea cost or smth
Yeah it's been majorly nerfed
is it still good proit
wool, but at high happiness they're the most profitable (besides pigs) according to someone like 20 minutes ago lol
wait so did i just waste my time getting the green tea for profit 
oh so its still good prfitr
yippeee
im on summer 14 so i think thats considered "starting out"
any ideas for what I can add?
oooh thats nice
i like that
idk how to room decor in sdv
a lot of trial and error lol
maybe a rug or what type of pet do you have
my skills are very well balanced
idk where to put a rug if I do add one... and I have two cats on the farm rn
cat tree?
how 2 get 2 cats
Interesting, I gave it to my sheep
Next will go to a dinosaur I think
More lvls than mining with fishing is crazy
That's me 3 weeks into spring
build a pet bowl from robin buy liscence from marnie
I regularly get lvl 5 fishing within the first week
Fishing aint my thing I just go clay farm
idk if the kitchen's a good spot for that lol
guys how do i ddecorate this (i only added wallapaper)
i get to at least lvl 7 by summer and i normally have lvl 6-4 on mining and combat
get a furniture catalog from robin but you need a lot of gold
hhow mcuh
mm brb
I wanna say it’s 200k
HEH?
yep
Yeah it's late game
room decor is an expensive hobby
200k isn't a lot past summer y2 tho
until you can afford the catalogues just put whatever you can grab into spots that look nice
im only summer y1
yep 200,000 gold
I've made 1 mil total by mid spring y2 this save
oh ok
OK THAT MAKES MORE SENSE
I mistyped 😭
went to the theater with sandy, saw my ex husband with haley and emily
i was about to say
But yeah I have 3 house upgrades, big coop + big barn, cc almost done (goddamn red cabbage), 10 casks (will have 25 in 4 days) by spring y2
Currently 270k in bank
is secret woods good in summer
Wdym
i was bad i got the attic cubby and side rooms and south rooms along with dinning room
like can i get good fishinf drops there
I have all rooms in my y3 save and it looks pretty ugly 😭
Woodskip, but idk what seasons that is exactly
waiting on noon for that junimo plush
and i am in year 2
Oh shi I got all secret notes this save let's goo
got a deluxe barn and coop
wait thats winter? how does it go from avg american spring to the artic
1 season of unsold things, how much money yall think I will make
Wines are starfruit
Jams are starfruit
Honeys are fairy rose
Why did CA decided to jump 15k exp to 100k for measly passive incomes and better versions of tappers etc bro
a whole lot of gold
seasons moment
It's alot worse than how to get blue patch of grass recipe
Crunchy ass screenshot
Its a photo
get blue grass starter recipe from qi
CRUNCHY 💀
Late game for what
What is it
Masteries after lvl 10 professions
Foraging?
its all sesons
yeah thise
Don’t just sell all of that ancient fruit
you can get mini junimos from claw in the movie theater
also i aint completing cc this year
Mm, that's my next one
Got combat and farming already (literally been 2 weeks in-game since 1.6 dropped lmfao)
ik but I need more big junimos
i lsot my one parsnip 
gotta look into dupe bugs now, and if that doesn't work I'll need an inventory editor
I refuse to only have 1 junimo plush
anyways I got my final galaxy soul, time to hit the volcano with some doom music
See that's why we keep 5-10 of each crop in our first year, and 20-30 in the next depending on how many times we need to keg/gift it
Only y2 and over 1 mil in one season? Good shit
i was gonna chop down trees but i remembered i forgot to pick up my axe from clint
What is an iridium scythe for doesn't junimos hut exist I'm clueless
In winter also, if it was in another season imagine how much more money i would make
hjwo to get junimo hut
Junimo hut is expensive af, you can get scythe y1 autumn
Junimo huts take up space
but it doesnt matter, look at the cute ass thigns
You gotta be makin a bank at that point ig
And they change color if you throw a prismatic shard in the hut 🥲
hell yuh
What do raisins do to the junimo exactly?
3x2 tiles isn't alot bro it doesn't change that much and it saves lot of time
And 20k is literally nothing
That’s 12 less starfruit per year!
🤣👆
Valid
Seriously though I never used junimo huts even before 1.6
9 starfruit is hard enough to get in y1 especially if you're selling for profit
You should it's a game changer 
just drank an oil of garlic for a desert festival skull cavern run and the first calico statue just have me more monsters
Other than that it makes the crops looks more diverse than plain scarecrows and sprinklers
anyone know if theres a way to get a second advanced iridium rod?
Did you lost your first one
no i need to get one with master enchant and one with auto hook
sad 😔
can I find information for the new artisan goods (smoked fish, dried mushrooms, etc) in the grange display anywhere?
Just use it mid game other than that it's probably less efficient than a junimos hut
Wiki is updated just don't use the community one ig
oh thanks, I didn't even realize I was on that one in some tabs and the regular one in others
There's different ones??
no wait, is this the correct wiki? https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Stardew_Valley_Fair because it's not listed there
it is done
I just use this one https://stardewvalleywiki.com/Junimo_Hut
This visual thing keeps happening recently, anything I can do? ;_;
what should I do with my angler
anyone know what are all the new items on the collections page for crops and forage? I wanna try and get perfection
should I be able to use dragon teeth on my infinity blade?
or is it only for specific weapons
Something that I don't see in the patch notes or that I see anyone discussing, forageable items can be made into juice and pickles now
I just made winter root juice
ok wow I haven't seen my new farm decor in spring yet, and it looks amazing
still working on it but magic sap and moss seems to be needed
before & after
Wait, juice too? That's unexpected
ignore the massive field of fiber lol
I knew you could pickle stuff now, but juice I hadn't heard
NO WAY
is anyone still finding that they fish an excessive amount of trash from volcano even after 1.6.3 said it fixed it? (I fished up 250 pieces of trash, and only 87 lava eel)
nomnom
cant find a way to enchant my galaxy/infinity sword, perhaps its not possible. guess ill stick to my cutlass
Welp. Found a bug. Seed spots can spawn over flooring and it makes it impossible to pick it up or dig up the seed spot.
Just search it up normally like
Fish smoker, dehydrator and add Stardew valley it'll show up
Dandelion juice
Not unrealistic. Dandelions can be used for everything from wine to jelly.
You need a ridiculous amount tho
Oh right
For some it's kind of unusual for me (idk why). Though chrysanthemum tea exists too and I've drank it many times
Has anyone managed to catch an iridium goby?
I don't think so, someone had lvl13(?) fishing and perfect catch but still got gold
Yeah, I thought so... Since the area is too small
Best area for cave jelly? 20? 60? Or 100?
Possible but really rare. I've not caught an iridium goby without quality bobber, but I've caught an iridium chub from the waterfall lake so
Use a quality bobber
Goby definitely doable
Does anyone know where i can get cave jelly and river jelly quick?
caves and rivers
Hazelnut juice
Tried but i keep not getting any
why tf am i getting gifts in secret f orest by fishing
Magma cap juice is gonna be nice
not much to do about it. They come up without a fight, like trash or algae
Thank you
Fishing secret. There are a few spots in the game where you can get them, forest pond happens to be one of them
Can't put mushrooms into a keg
one big bummer with 1.6 for me is there was no update to hoppers 😦
tried purple mushroom and it does not allow
Awwww
Would be neat though
alright is it actually possible tor reforge the parrot trinket to level 4? ive gone through 120 iridium ;-;
does anyone know when the raccoon task refreshes?
I have a level 4 parrot

Idk if you can reforge it to one but I have it
you can reforge using the anvil to randomise the level
yes, you're just unlucky
I've tried dozens of times and the best I got was a level 3. Eventually, wondering if it's tied to a pattern, I just tried three times every morning
damn...
i think the max level of trinkets depend on your max cash
welp im out of iridium time to do a skull run
dont quote me on that, but i only got a level 4 parrot after an increase in total cash earnt
though that may just be placebo
ima just be happy with a level 3 right now
btw if any of you use copious amounts of fertilizer like me, I highly recommend tapping a few mahogany trees with regular tappers, they produce 5-10 sap a day and that passive gain is so helpful for making fertilizer in bulk
im working on that
also they're pretty
Not the price catalogue just removing the usefulness of one of my mods
Really? I never would have thought that a lake that small would net you an iridium quality fish...
You're going to need a high fishing level for that
Though I'm actually trying to get the max size rather than the quality
Garbage cat
Yeah higher fishing level then
I had an iridium scythe mod back in the day that reskinned the golden scythe and let it harvest all crops...
Max is 19 fishing levels
Master enchanted advanced rod + gold quality seafoam pudding + quality bobber will do the trick
isnt it 16? where do you pull the extra 3 out of out of curiosity
Damn I would have loved that
Desert festival
omg I have the same cat
Nope
guys im scared to go outsside, theres green rain in sdv
Wait does the food in desert festival stacks?
Yep
The buff I mean
Garbage cats unite
I also have garbage dog with bandana since I have 2 trash can hats in this save
Holy crap, I did not take that into account, thank you lol, this has really opened my mind
desert festival is the best time for skull cavern runs as well, stack the +3 luck +1 speed food with coffee and a prismatic rock candy and go wild
and the best part is there's no penalty for getting killed by enemies during the festival
so you can just go down as far as you can get and if you die there's no worries
fr fr
Assuming fish size calculations haven't changed since 1.5, and given that max fishing zone for Goby is literally 1, max feasible size should be... 7
With 19 fishing
Hey can you check what size the Goby was?
What your biggest catch is
Oh I didn't checked it
In theory should be 7"
Could change the date of the save though to test
Alright then
wat does green rain water your crops?
What is good to bring to the desert on your first travel there?
Hmm, 9" is interesting, that implies you actually got fishing zone 2
So goby's maximum size which is 13, isn't achievable at all?
Should be achievable
Nah

Hopefully
But maybe not
does leaving something in a keg for longer make it more valuable?
now just gotta wait for them all to grow
It won't be, unless fish size calc has changed substantially
I feel like it's only fishing zone 0 and 1. Would be not be suprised if fishing zone 2 is there
I've only got 24 in mine, working my way up
Looks like it, doesn't seems to be big enough for more than zone 1
yeah...
Welp, guess I'll go back to mods
panning seems kinda good now
I think there has to be fishing zone 2 that you managed to hit
Only way the size calc works
yeah in about a year of panning with some decent luck buffs I got 5 lucky rings lol
Which means 11" Goby should be theoretically possible
iridium pan
You lowrolled it
im using a gold pan and it's almost paid its own iridium upgrade
i have unlcoked my first master star, which one is best to claim first ??
Farming by a fairly significant margin
Because it makes grinding XP for the other masteries easier
None of the others really help with that at all
ok ty ❤️
imo it's preference, my top picks would be farming, mining, and fishing
can i use deluxe bait on crab pots?
yup
Yes
yeah... not much point though afaik
It makes the crab pot give silver quality
